#Teval Brew part 2 lets go
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frigid edge
I think how you sac them might vary, but since the earthbending trigger returns from the gy to play it triggers Teval so that seems automatic.
floral sigil
I have a personal vendetta against experience counters though
frigid edge
And the Szarel deck usually likes to sacrifice land and hit landfall triggers which earthbending leans so well on already.
Yeah, but at 0 experience counters you get a free landfall/land death
opal patio
Yeah, but at 0 experience counters you get a free landfall/land death
that is only on the first one though, its not free after that
floral sigil
It’s always free if you earthbend a fetch land
frigid edge
Truth, you need some method to sacrifice lands, or creatures, which Szarel should have in spades. Teval might have to change a bit depending on your list.
opal patio
It’s always free if you earthbend a fetch land
this
frigid edge
And yeah Fetch Lands, Waste/Strip etc make bending so good.
opal patio
Truth, you need some method to sacrifice lands, or creatures, which Szarel shoul...
i think like half my list in teval kills lands
frigid edge
I feel it's a crime to not include some earthbending in all my landsmatter lists now
I really hope they reskin the mechanic or we get more Avatar sets in the future
floral sigil
Truth, you need some method to sacrifice lands, or creatures, which Szarel shoul...
Well, don’t forget that they become creatures. Creature sac outlets work on earthbending as well
frigid edge
Absolutely
opal patio
Well, don’t forget that they become creatures. Creature sac outlets work on eart...
also make for great chump blocks in combat, to get a landfall trigger/leave yard/etc
floral sigil
[[Avatar Kyoshi, Earthbender]] plus [[Greater Good]] has me salivating 🤣
frigid edge
floral sigil
You know what would be a really good sub theme in an earth bending focused deck? Deserts
opal patio
those pinging damage
floral sigil
Imagine earthbending [[Lazotep Quarry]] then using it to make a token copy of something in your GY.
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Land — Desert
: Add 
.
, Sacrifice a creature: Add one mana of any color.
, , Sacrifice a Desert: Exile target creature card with mana value X from your graveyard. Create a token that's a copy of it, except it's a 4/4 black Zombie. Activate only as a sorcery.
floral sigil
Yes. Deserts almost all have a “sacrifice a desert” effect. So like fetch lands, they’re a way to sacrifice what you’ve earthbended for free. They’re a bit more versatile than just fetching more lands
opal patio
yeah yeah, i was just thinking how thats different..but i guess i never really thought about cycling lands that way
frigid edge
Yes. Deserts almost all have a “sacrifice a desert” effect. So like fetch lands,...
I've tried to do this so far my biggest limitation is actually the number of times I can reliably earthbend each turn being only 1-2 on average
I want a deeper earthbending card pool
opal patio
in teval?
frigid edge
in general
unique path
[[Avatar Kyoshi, Earthbender]] plus [[Greater Good]] has me salivating 🤣
Greater good on its own is amazing but yea earthbend 8 sac draw 8 discard 3 make a zombie seems ridiculous. And also you can cheat out the 8 drop easily
frigid edge
I just want a ton more cards with the mechanic because it is amazing design space and I like sacrificing lands and creatures for payoffs.
opal patio
I just want a ton more cards with the mechanic because it is amazing design spac...
it seems like WotC does too since EoE had a pretty decent portion of it as well
unique path
[[long feng]] seems really good to kill someone with teval. or anything. anything not blocked you have a sac outlet with your 20 zombies someone's gonna take a bunch
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unique path
Has anyone tried [[journey to eternity]]
The flip land ability to bring something back from the gy is pretty ok. Not as cheap as shifting but also permanent
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Legendary Enchantment — Aura
Enchant creature you control
When enchanted creature dies, return it to the battlefield under your control, then return this card to the battlefield transformed under your control.
Every journey has its inevitable end . . .
Atzal, Cave of Eternity
Legendary Land
(Transforms from Journey to Eternity.)
: Add one mana of any color.
, : Return target creature card from your graveyard to the battlefield.
. . . but every end is a new beginning.
floral sigil
That looks like a very strong card. It looks like it would probably work better in your build than mine. You run much more self-sacrifice synergy than I do, so it would be hard to trigger the transform consistently. This is definitely going in my Betor deck though
unique path
Shit I think it triggers teval twice. Once for creature coming back once for the journey coming back as a land from the gy
opal patio
Shit I think it triggers teval twice. Once for creature coming back once for the...
It does double trigger, but its a delayed trigger, the first return to the battlefield can be responded to, and if they exile the yard in that time, you lose both.
secondly, since its an aura, like other auras, if the creature is removed before the enchantment resolves initial cast, they both die and you dont get the return to field trigger
unique path
It does double trigger, but its a delayed trigger, the first return to the battl...
sure. in the first instance exiling the creature still triggers teval LOL
opal patio
sure. in the first instance exiling the creature still triggers teval LOL
sure, but just wanted to make it a point, and thats sort of irrelevant, because anything leaving the yard will trigger teval
unique path
It does double trigger, but its a delayed trigger, the first return to the battl...
i got a judge ruling on this. if for whatever reason the creature is exiled or removed from the gy while the trigger is on the stack to bring it back, journey still comes back and is a land.
if both are destroyed at the same time, both come back and journey comes back as a land
opal patio
i got a judge ruling on this. if for whatever reason the creature is exiled or r...
Sure..I didnt say journey wouldn't come back...and the second part is in rulings of Journey already
opal patio
well you would lose both
but if they exile just the creature from the yard, then journey would still come back
the reason journey still returns, it doesnt target
with beifong, and other earthbenders, im thinking about tossing in [[Umbral Collar Zealot]]. Sac earthbending lands to get a surveil seems like an easy way to fill the yard, and trigger grave-reaver or literally anything else.
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unique path
with beifong, and other earthbenders, im thinking about tossing in [[Umbral Coll...
that's a good one. there's some one drop that also does sac and surveil it's a dog. i forgot the name
[[snarling gorehound]] etb not death. pretty ok for zombies coming in though
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opal patio
that's a good one. there's some one drop that also does sac and surveil it's a d...
downside is its a 1/1
as well
but it could be decent with the zombies coming in
i looked at umbral when it first came out, but it didnt fit to well, because i was a sub-theme of sac..but now i might make it a bit more, because of earthbending
opal patio
Ashaya and earthbending go crazy together
someone else just mentioned it in Hearthhull, for infinite HH pings and its kinda crazy here too...infinite zombies
Teval, Ashaya, Badgermole, Land or Creature Sac...Ashaya makes badgermole enter as a land, target itself with earthbend, sac it, it comes back triggering teval, target itself, repeat....i guess the only downside, unless you are playing a more lands matter deck, ashaya doesnt play into tevals wincon
glad sparrow
Yeah I think I might just build hearthhull
Sorry teval but earthbending is too cool
unique path
Yeah I think I might just build hearthhull
It's a terrifying commander that only folds to GY hate and tutor hate
glad sparrow
It's a terrifying commander that only folds to GY hate and tutor hate
Fetchlands.deck basically
unique path
Fetchlands.deck basically
Not to get off topic but you can apply the same stuff to teval really so it's not.
Yes. Sac outlets for lands. Play many lands per turn cards. Return all Lands from gy to play.
Play Lands from gy
That's the shell of any landfall deck. Can apply to any commander.
Hearhhull terrifying because it's going to kill you with the 2 life loss every land sac and who cares if it's removed you ramped enough to cast for 20 if needed
If I wanted to slot in after math analyst and squandered resources into teval I can and it would work wonders. But also the same cards would do the same in any landfall deck that has the colors
opal patio
I run a small landfall package in Teval and its great..the only difference is with HH you can get guaranteed damage, but there are plenty of ways to do that in Teval...
i run Syr Konrad to get some pings in (plus i just love the card) and Jared (which woudl work with HH as well) to throw my mossborn when its high enough to board wipe
the problem with HH is it needs to be stationed to 8 before it gets the pings, whereas teval is immediately turned on.
now an untapper with the earthbending loop can get you there quickly, i dont need to specifically worry about that with Teval
unique path
the problem with HH is it needs to be stationed to 8 before it gets the pings, w...
Getting it to 8 counters is a joke. Especially if you are running field of the dead for example or scute swarm or any other landfall payoff that makes creatures
I station evendo to 12 many times same turn it comes out. 6 zombies or some other creatures. It's so easy
opal patio
i guess it depends on what bracket you are playing it in
unique path
3
opal patio
yeah then its pretty easy
glad sparrow
Not to get off topic but you can apply the same stuff to teval really so it's no...
Yeah that's absolutely true and that's why I can't pick between hearthhull and teval
frigid edge
imo never pick. Proxy frequently and play your decks against each other.
unique path
Man I got destroyed today vs hasheton or whatever the discard blue white black guy and indoraptor.
Couldn't keep creatures on board all game
Game 2 I took 16 commander from azule fire lord turn 4. Won turn 6 off a incarnation technique into collosal gravereaver first resolution into mirkwood bats off reaver etb into spark double into konrad for attacking with teval.
Ended up doing like 40 damage from making tokens to creatures entering and leaving the gy
modern solar
Aaaaay yoooooo whats happening Teval sleepy? 😮
I want ask if anyone has a Teval list with only two GC in their List mines are field of the dead and crop rotation and also thinking about Wasteland 😮
I'm currently filtering my Deck with categories and wanted to know how much draw you guys have for Teval 🙂
floral sigil
Aaaaay yoooooo whats happening Teval sleepy? 😮
I want ask if anyone has a Teva...
My current list has 2 game changers: Crop Rotation and Natural Order
I am running 5 cards that I’d classify as “draw.” I find that I don’t need to draw cards with this deck much at all, since the GY is basically a second hand. So you can almost count mill cards as draw cards. It’s not exactly 1:1 obviously, but it fulfills a similar-ish role
modern solar
My current list has 2 game changers: Crop Rotation and Natural Order
I am runni...
Yeah true I mill a lot too yeah 🙂
I will categorize my Deck and maybe someone has a look and I will include a Top 5 cards I'm thinking about but not sure what to cut for them 🙁
floral sigil
I’d be happy to take a look
glad sparrow
Not to get off topic but you can apply the same stuff to teval really so it's no...
I'm gonna build teval reanimator I think, with a small land package
I think going too hard on lands is wasteful
modern solar
I'm gonna build teval reanimator I think, with a small land package
Yes please let me know is was my first attempt as well and currently I play a mix of both but mostly win with lumra + ob nixilis / ob nixilis + aftermath analyst / Colossal Grave Reaver + Altar of Dementia 😄
This here is my current list guys I hope all the categories I've choosen are right 🙂
https://archidekt.com/decks/12167171/compost_king_you_cant_do_this_to_me_after_everything_ive_milled
Please have a look on the maybeboard as well since those are the cards I'm curious about testing / want to add ❤️
glad sparrow
This here is my current list guys I hope all the categories I've choosen are rig...
I was mostly inspired to go back this route because of the new secret lair ob nix lol
modern solar
I was mostly inspired to go back this route because of the new secret lair ob ni...
Yes I just sleeved it in my Deck as well 😄
I'd be happy for some thoughts on my Decklist 🙂
fierce cairn
Here's my list: https://moxfield.com/decks/gMX5Fa6yHEmzzqeeKGeVgw Considering Perpetual Timepiece to protect from graveyard hate, but not sure it's needed.
unique path
Aaaaay yoooooo whats happening Teval sleepy? 😮
I want ask if anyone has a Teva...
My 3 gc are chasm Rhystic and field of the dead.
I could not run chasm or Rhystic and be fine.
You could run 0 game changers and be fine.
Before rule update on game changers a while back I was at 2 and went to 4 lmao had to cut crop rotation
glad sparrow
Chasm feels mean in a deck that can recur it so much
I think I'd probably just be on crop rotation and fotd
glad sparrow
imo never pick. Proxy frequently and play your decks against each other.
Yeah I might just do both and proxy
unique path
Chasm feels mean in a deck that can recur it so much
From my experience unless you play something that brings all lands back, chasm makes you have a land drop from hand and bring it back just to go neutral and you can't attack with it out
glad sparrow
From my experience unless you play something that brings all lands back, chasm m...
Oh I plan on playing lumra, aftermath analyst at minimum
glad sparrow
this is my list so far, feel a bit creature light for a reanimator deck https://moxfield.com/decks/NpDLu6_SXUyboXjnSzzSrQ
Very light on removal too
modern solar
Oh I plan on playing lumra, aftermath analyst at minimum
Yes that plus Ob Nixilis is one of my alternative wincons 🙂
@glad sparrow whats your opinion on Warren Soultrader .. I somehow want to play a Sac Outlet too to react to removal and also I wanna play Zuran Orb I guess 😮
glad sparrow
<@198825019768307712> whats your opinion on Warren Soultrader .. I somehow want ...
It's a phenomenal card, though probably more useful if you have [[Gravecrawler]] which I now realise I've cut
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glad sparrow
Also useful with [[Skullclamp]]
modest lodgeBOT
Artifact — Equipment
Equipped creature gets +1/-1.
Whenever equipped creature dies, draw two cards.
Equip 
Mardu blacksmiths can distill the technology of any clan and make it their own. Whether or not they should is another question.
unique path
I cut ob but I can always slot back in.
I really like tatyova and river kelpe for vard draw instead of drain with ob.
Also I have other drain options
I've been debating on [[greater good]]
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unique path
It's a sac outlet. And it's a draw outlet and discard outlet all in 1
modern solar
Yes I also cut gravecrawler but not sure what Else I should cut for him ..
Greater good seems fine but since Most of my creatures are not that big its more just a / loot effect but could be good maybe not sure in my henzie deck it’s insane tho 😮
modern solar
What are in your opinion the best Cards to trigger teval with cards leaving gy?
I want to lean more into the Token strat..
Yeah I wanna try gravecrawler, phyrexian Altar & Altar of the brood I think 🙂
unique path
What are in your opinion the best Cards to trigger teval with cards leaving gy?
...
[[Tortured existence]]
[[Titan nest]]
The latter is on demand zombies on any turn
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Enchantment
, Discard a creature card: Return target creature card from your graveyard to your hand.
"There are terrors lurking in the unseen corners of us all." —Crovax
Enchantment
At the beginning of your upkeep, surveil 1. (Look at the top card of your library. You may put that card into your graveyard.)
Exile a card from your graveyard: Add . Spend this mana only to cast a spell that's one or more colors without in its mana cost.
opal patio
They need a power-crept Titans Nest. The exile effect is a little underwhelming these days
unique path
They need a power-crept Titans Nest. The exile effect is a little underwhelming ...
That exile effect is what wins you games.
If you have [[mirkwood bats]] for example. Or [[ayara]] and exile your 15 to 30 cards its gg
unique path
Doesn't matter where it's going its leaving the gy
And you can't respond to the mana ability. You can respond to triggers that happen because of it but no one can try to kill it because you exile a card
opal patio
Yeah i dont play either of em. I played ayara for a bit but neither were "helping me win" fast enough
unique path
I play both and syr konrad and it wipes tables
opal patio
Konrad I do..but kirkwood is just too expensive to get out and ayara I've thought about bringing back now that I loop more with earthbend
But still
unique path
Konrad with gravereaver for example is insane. Mill creatures everyone gets damaged. Bring one back everyone gets damaged
Well my thoughts on it are this.
Make a token everyone is drained.
Black creature etb drain.
Sac token drain. Creature dies anywhere konrad drains them.
[[Poison tip archer]] might throw that in for more drain
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opal patio
Yeah pinging damage doesn't really work in a lot of my pods I play in. They all get removed relatively quickly
I have to win on the spot with em...so I have limited ones in my list
modern solar
Well I need to get a [[Tortured existence]] I guess seems really strong 🙂
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Enchantment
, Discard a creature card: Return target creature card from your graveyard to your hand.
"There are terrors lurking in the unseen corners of us all." —Crovax
unique path
Well I need to get a [[Tortured existence]] I guess seems really strong 🙂
All teval decks should run it.
With [[urborg tomb of yawgmoth]] all lands will make you tokens at end of someone's turn to swing out with
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modern solar
All teval decks should run it.
With [[urborg tomb of yawgmoth]] all lands will m...
But why is that with Urborg ?
I just ordered it haha 🙂
sterile perch
All teval decks should run it.
With [[urborg tomb of yawgmoth]] all lands will m...
Recently made an Teval deck
Have TE but not urbog lol
unique path
But why is that with Urborg ?
I just ordered it haha 🙂
Urborg makes all lands tap for black.
So you can use all lands to use tortured.
I use lands like [[Peat bog]] and that let's me not sacrifice them if I don't want
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Land
This land enters tapped with two depletion counters on it.
, Remove a depletion counter from this land: Add . If there are no depletion counters on this land, sacrifice it.
unique path
I run urborg and Cabal. And the station cradle land
sterile perch
I can read Urborg just too expensive for a mid effect in this deck
tortured in here for an infinite anyway
unique path
I run it and yavimaya for color fixing its 3 colors I'll take anything that works
Also just proxy
sterile perch
Nah
modern solar
Yeah true but urborg for me to expensive as well 😩
opal patio
Just remember with Yavimaya and Urborg make ALL lands tap for a color, not just basics. So now your Urzas saga taps for black or green, etc.
But they a definitely deck build dependent
unique path
There is not a deck that would not benefit from both
sterile perch
Deck that budget lol
floral sigil
If you want a budget version of Urborg you can consider [[Swampbenders]]
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wise cave
Has anybody tried [[tombstone stairwell]] in Teval in an aristocrats build?
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World Enchantment
Cumulative upkeep (At the beginning of your upkeep, put an age counter on this permanent, then sacrifice it unless you pay its upkeep cost for each age counter on it.)
At the beginning of each upkeep, if this enchantment is on the battlefield, each player creates a 2/2 black Zombie creature token with haste named Tombspawn for each creature card in their graveyard.
At the beginning of each end step and when this enchantment leaves the battlefield, destroy all tokens created with this enchantment. They can't be regenerated.
unique path
Has anybody tried [[tombstone stairwell]] in Teval in an aristocrats build?
I've seen it in action in another deck and it's fucking busted
If you have ayara or anything else out that drains on death or entering its a game ender with 1 rotation
unique path
If you want a budget version of Urborg you can consider [[Swampbenders]]
I missed these guys
unique path
[[beifong bounty hunter]] picking this up today to throw into teval. with a sac outlet you just go infinite, death triggers, ETB's, token generation. and landfall triggers
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sterile perch
[[beifong bounty hunter]] picking this up today to throw into teval. with a sac ...
I was thinking of them too
frigid cairn
Would you play [[elementals teaching]] in teval or it might be a bit too cute.
unique path
[[Elemental teaching]]
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unique path
[[Realms uncharted]] is what I use
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unique path
I don't think there's anything wrong with having both.
I think I'm Iroh I'm using the lesson card
sterile perch
Yall running [[old rustin]] ?
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sterile perch
[[old rutstein]]
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opal patio
[[beifong bounty hunter]] picking this up today to throw into teval. with a sac ...
been running this since getting it on prerelease. I think i mentioned it above, but its pretty solid, definitely something i search for almost all the time when i tutor
unique path
[[old rutstein]]
I'm not because I feel like this is ok for token decks there's better 3 drop token generation.
[[Mycotyrant]]
Or the best one [[tireless provisioner]]
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Creature — Elf Scout
Landfall — Whenever a land you control enters, create a Food token or a Treasure token. (Food is an artifact with ", , Sacrifice this token: You gain 3 life." Treasure is an artifact with ", Sacrifice this token: Add one mana of any color.")
3/2
unique path
anyone have experience with [[likeness looter]] i'm tempted to try it out. it's a draw it flies and it can copy stuff in the GY for the cmc. like ayara, or konrad. or gravereaver
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Creature — Faerie Shapeshifter
Flying
: Draw a card, then discard a card.
: This creature becomes a copy of target creature card in your graveyard with mana value X, except it has flying and this ability. Activate only as a sorcery.
1/1
opal patio
anyone have experience with [[likeness looter]] i'm tempted to try it out. it's ...
1/1's are so hard for me to play that i then have to commit more resources into. Not sure what your pods or playgroups, but at B4 im regularly up against an Orcash Bowmaster in some capacity
unique path
it's for b3 but yea it is a 1/1 so are other things that i play
sterile perch
I think with this looting I rather play da frog
opal patio
I think with this looting I rather play da frog
the frog?
unique path
I think with this looting I rather play da frog
You talking about the croak counters frog? Does it exile from the gy? So it triggers teval? That would be pretty good
sterile perch
You talking about the croak counters frog? Does it exile from the gy? So it trig...
Psychic
unique path
Yea that card is bonkers
floral sigil
Alright so I'm doing a bit of a redesign of my teval deck, and I need help finding a few cards to cut:
https://archidekt.com/decks/12081160
I'm trying to lean a little harder into the "power matters" subtheme that I had before, since that's what I really find fun. And then I added a few earthbending cards, since they synergize so well with teval. I'm currently at 106 cards
Also, how could I potentially cheat an enchantment into play without casting it in these colors? The only card I have that can do that currently is [[Rise of the Witch-King]] but I'm sure there's more
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floral sigil
Maybe I'm trying to do too much in one deck. There's some overlap with the power-matters stuff and the land toolbox stuff because of cards like Ob Nixilis and Mossborn Hydra, but it does feel like the more I try to optimize stuff like Ghalta and Greater Good, the more I move away from the lands
unique path
Permanent into play probably not many besides which king or muldrotha but that's a cast not a cheat.
If it's an enchantment creature sure it's way easier.
Otherwise it's [[regrowth]] effects
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unique path
Also six retrace cost
Ghalta archpriest of shadows. Smugglers surprise
Not sure how you do with those but those would be my cuts to go to 103
i think if you had a loop to bring back lands over and over again en masse, like shifting woodlands aftermath and a sac outlet for lands ob would be good. if you can play 3-4 lands a turn ob would be good
so the easy way is cut 3 lands, go to 37, and 3 other cards and you get to 100
40 is a lot of lands
floral sigil
Permanent into play probably not many besides which king or muldrotha but that's...
Specifically, I am trying to cheat [[Tectonic Split]] because the trigger to sac half your lands only happens when you cast it. So if you can put it into play without casting, then you don't have to sac anything
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Enchantment
As an additional cost to cast this spell, sacrifice half the lands you control, rounded up.
Hexproof
Lands you control have ": Add three mana of any one color."
floral sigil
40 is a lot of lands
I am happy with the land count of this deck. The high number does 2 main things for me. First, it maximizes my ability to play Teval on curve. I am running extremely few ramp cards that can be cast before turn 4, so I have to rely on land drops from hand. Secondly, it maximizes my chance of hitting a land when I mill from Teval’s effect, since there’s a decent likelihood I don’t have any in there the first time she attacks.
I know this isn’t helping my case, but I just think it’s funny so I’ll point out, I’m actually running 42 lands. I just moved Maze of Ith and Dark Depths into separate categories since they don’t tap for mana
floral sigil
Not sure how you do with those but those would be my cuts to go to 103
Ghalta and Smugglers are new additions. I haven’t gotten to test them yet, but they’re part of the “power matters” subtheme I was referring to. Archpriest of Shadows could definitely be cut though. It’s theoretically very useful, since the backup counter could go into Teval, to fly over blockers. But I’m not sure it’s really been performing that well in practice
unique path
Ghalta and Smugglers are new additions. I haven’t gotten to test them yet, but t...
if you want power matters may i suggest a [[great henge]]
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Legendary Artifact
This spell costs less to cast, where X is the greatest power among creatures you control.
: Add . You gain 2 life.
Whenever a nontoken creature you control enters, put a +1/+1 counter on it and draw a card.
unique path
get it out for cheap. reap the benefits of constant card draw
opal patio
Specifically, I am trying to cheat [[Tectonic Split]] because the trigger to sac...
[[anticausal vestige]] warped is probably how i would do it. I ran it for a bit in Teval
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Creature — Eldrazi
When this creature leaves the battlefield, draw a card, then you may put a permanent card with mana value less than or equal to the number of lands you control from your hand onto the battlefield tapped.
Warp 
(You may cast this card from your hand for its warp cost. Exile this creature at the beginning of the next end step, then you may cast it from exile on a later turn.)
7/5
floral sigil
Interesting!
opal patio
and because you are playing big creatures [[Kodama of the East Tree]]
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opal patio
or if you want some CHAOS
[[Show and Tell]]
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sterile perch
Specifically, I am trying to cheat [[Tectonic Split]] because the trigger to sac...
Is it that bad to sac land in here though
floral sigil
No, but cheating that is funny
sterile perch
You have to go out of your way and have a slot for it kind not worth it imo
Usually I sac half the aftermath analysis back anyway
floral sigil
Yeah I don’t think I’m going to run anything for it. It’s fine to use the normal way. I was just looking into my options
opal patio
Yeah I don’t think I’m going to run anything for it. It’s fine to use the normal...
I would run Kodama of the East Tree if you are still on the edge and because it cheats all permanents out this way. You drop the Ghalta for MV 12, you get anything else in your hand for free basically
sterile perch
Wait why galta in here ?
opal patio
Wait why galta in here ?
they are playing all big stompies
and Ghalta works wonders with crazy token generation
( but that was in their decklist )
floral sigil
Wait why galta in here ?
It’s a recent addition and I’m not too sure I’ll keep it. My Teval deck has a small “power matters” subtheme to make a few of my finisher work. So I wanted to see if running more big stompy creatures would help with that or not. Probably not.
sterile perch
Make sense
It’s prolly far bc Teval have prolly close out game unless you play either Overun , combo , or armory
Stompy*
unique path
Coat of arms zombies lmao
frigid cairn
If I were to run springheart nantuko what good etb or creature would you usually copy in a teval list
sterile perch
Reclamation sage
opal patio
If I were to run springheart nantuko what good etb or creature would you usually...
it sort of depends on what you are running, but i generally hit Lumra with Zuran Orb+Lotus Cobra or Squandered Resources on the board (in a different, similar deck)
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If I were to run springheart nantuko what good etb or creature would you usually...
Springbloom until you run out of basics.
Wood elves because it comes in untapped.
Spark double
Collosal gravereaver
sterile perch
Yall run a lot of basic
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I have 6 basics
3 of each color snow and 3 regular for naming differences for field of the dead
floral sigil
I have 6 basics
3 of each color snow and 3 regular for naming differences for f...
I think your numbers have to be wrong here. 3 of each snow + 3 regular would be 12 basics
floral sigil
Yall run a lot of basic
I run 2 of each. I’ve debated cutting it down, but there’s a lot of good ramp pieces out there than need basics specifically
unique path
2 each basic
floral sigil
1 regular and 1 snow? Or 2 snow and 1 regular?
unique path
Yea one normal one snow if each
floral sigil
Ok that makes a lot more sense
Btw, I came across a tech card for Teval that I think is really interesting. What do you all think of [[Pharika, God of Affliction]]?
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Legendary Enchantment Creature — God
Indestructible
As long as your devotion to black and green is less than seven, Pharika isn't a creature.
: Exile target creature card from a graveyard. Its owner creates a 1/1 black and green Snake enchantment creature token with deathtouch.
5/5
unique path
It's a nice 3 drop and it gets around nukes and it makes tokens. 7 devotion might be tough or it might not be as teval and her are 4 of the 7
tired jackal
Btw, I came across a tech card for Teval that I think is really interesting. Wha...
She makes decent blockers, but I'd rather run [[keen-eyed curator]]
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Creature — Raccoon Scout
As long as there are four or more card types among cards exiled with this creature, it gets +4/+4 and has trample.
: Exile target card from a graveyard.
"Now this one's a real collector's item. They say Lily Emberseed herself drank from this mug when she was still Lily of Valley."
3/3
tired jackal
More versatile + Teval makes tokens anyways
floral sigil
The main reason I’m interested in Pharika is because it can make deathtouch creatures at instant speed, and give them to any player. Obviously it’s good to exile your own stuff and get her token + Teval token, but she also has the added utility of doing stuff like giving someone a blocker after attacks are declared, or making political deals
unique path
If they happen to have a creature in their yard
unique path
She makes decent blockers, but I'd rather run [[keen-eyed curator]]
This is a dope card. If you have this and titan nest for example you can just keep going and have an outlet for titan nest
modern solar
Anyone tried [[Talon Gates of Madara]] yet?
Also I want to add Tortured Existence but not sure what to cut from my current list any clue? 🙂
https://archidekt.com/decks/12167171/compost_king_you_cant_do_this_to_me_after_everything_ive_milled
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Land — Gate
When this land enters, up to one target creature phases out.
: Add .
, : Add one mana of any color.
: Put this card from your hand onto the battlefield.
unique path
Anyone tried [[Talon Gates of Madara]] yet?
Also I want to add Tortured Existen...
Everyone has talon gates. It's very good. Especially if you crop rotation it to stop a combo or protect teval from a wipe.
Tortured is required
modern solar
Yes i think so too but what to cut ?
Maybe Sheoldred I guess 🙂
unique path
massacre wurm probably ok to drop but it's under finishers?
it stops combos i guess
i might have to go heavier into the reanimate theme. add a animate dead, necromancy, reanimate, dance of the dead,
the puppeteer clique seems good if you have a sac outlet
there's also [[diabolic servitude]]
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unique path
this card actually triggers teval 2x if you use your own creature.
when the creature dies, you exile it. trigger teval. and bring this back to your hand. might have to get one
modern solar
massacre wurm probably ok to drop but it's under finishers?
Yeah it’s under finishers because in my pot we play a lot of creatures and Token Decks but I think so too that I can cut it from my Lista as well 👍
The Clique overperforms every Game I See it it’s one of my favorites cards.
I think I have a good reanimate package but maybe I Slot in necromancy as well 🙂
unique path
Yea I'm gonna have to go full reanimate lol.
Incarnation technique overperforms 90% of the time.
Clique I can see doing the same
i wonder how good [[life//death]] will be now that there's earth bending
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Sorcery
All lands you control become 1/1 creatures until end of turn. They're still lands.
Death
Sorcery
Return target creature card from your graveyard to the battlefield. You lose life equal to its mana value.
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really thinking hard about adding mesmeric orb and a [[underrealm lich]] as multi draw will let me filter spells and throw creatures in the bin
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also might make sense to throw [[kotis sibsig champion]] back in the deck
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I play a mesmeric Orb and it’s really OP since my List is already a reanimate Deck and I just added a incarnation technique as well 🙂
I have a reanimate / leave graveyard trigger style of deck I think
Also I added Vesuva to try it out .. im thinking about how I could Protect my graveyard someone ?
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Also I added Vesuva to try it out .. im thinking about how I could Protect my gr...
[[Ground seal]] but it stops all your reanimate besides living death
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[[Witchbane orb]]
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quaint sedge
[[syr konrad]] doesn't protect but it shreds the table's life if a stray bog hits you
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quaint sedge
[[syr konrad the grim]]
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Legendary Creature — Human Knight
Whenever another creature dies, or a creature card is put into a graveyard from anywhere other than the battlefield, or a creature card leaves your graveyard, Syr Konrad deals 1 damage to each opponent.
: Each player mills a card. (They each put the top card of their library into their graveyard.)
5/4
unique path
[[syr konrad the grim]]
Yea he's the best anti wipe insurance. Everyone got a big board? Kill him first
Man him with mesmeric orb just does work. Gonna make changes this week for sure
modern solar
Man him with mesmeric orb just does work. Gonna make changes this week for sure
Yes it’s so much fun an you mill a looooooot of cards and can win early with lumra + Ob and drain a bunch 😮
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Yes it’s so much fun an you mill a looooooot of cards and can win early with lum...
i don't have ob in the deck. i can see him being pretty effective though
modern solar
He drains a lot and Gets very big which you can sac into Altar to mill even more 🙂
unique path
Great points
unique path
Anyone have experience with [[litjara mirror lake]]
Or [[port of karfell]]
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Land
This land enters tapped.
: Add 
.
, , Sacrifice this land: Create a token that's a copy of target creature you control, except it enters with an additional +1/+1 counter on it. Activate only as a sorcery.
Land
This land enters tapped.
: Add .
, , Sacrifice this land: Mill four cards, then return a creature card from your graveyard to the battlefield tapped. (To mill a card, put the top card of your library into your graveyard.)
opal patio
with [[Cosmogoyf]] getting play in Modern recently...i almost want to toss it + [[Necropotence]] into my Teval deck. I already run [[Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord]] to fling Mossborn/Lumra
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Legendary Creature — Zombie Elf
Jarad gets +1/+1 for each creature card in your graveyard.
, Sacrifice another creature: Each opponent loses life equal to the sacrificed creature's power.
Sacrifice a Swamp and a Forest: Return this card from your graveyard to your hand.
2/2
floral sigil
I feel like you can do a lot better for “giant power creature” and find one with more direct synergy with the strategy. [[Lord of Extinction]] comes in the precon, for example. But there are better options that that as well
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[[Consuming aberation]] not as good floor but higher ceiling potentially as it forces mill
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floral sigil
That doesn’t really synergize with Teval or anything the deck wants to do, though
unique path
Yea would be better if it milled you as an option
opal patio
Oh for sure...I wasn't going to actually do its just a cool combo because I love flinging creatures unexpectedly to win
The thing is necro does synergize so it would really just be adding cosmogoyf which doesn't synergy otherwise
unique path
Went infinite with a 5 card combo lol.
Beifong bounty hunters plus journey to eternity plus teval plus altar of dementia to mill but ayara to drain just in case
glad sparrow
I feel like beifong bounty hunters has a lot of combo potential
floral sigil
It absolutely does. No doubt about that. But you can also run it as just a good value piece
unique path
I feel like beifong bounty hunters has a lot of combo potential
with teval you just go infinite. because you sac a creature. then the land. the land comes back. zombie gets made. sac the zombie. rinse and repeat
floral sigil
Assuming you have an infinite sac outlet, yeah.
You can also go infinite with [[Basking Broodscale]] and any landfall = +1/+1 counter card
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Creature — Eldrazi Lizard
Devoid (This card has no color.)
: Adapt 1. (If this creature has no +1/+1 counters on it, put a +1/+1 counter on it.)
Whenever one or more +1/+1 counters are put on this creature, you may create a 0/1 colorless Eldrazi Spawn creature token with "Sacrifice this token: Add ."
2/2
floral sigil
Since the spawns dying making you earthbend 0, which makes the land immediately die and come back
floral sigil
Made a handful of changes to my deck again. Ended up cutting back on the “power matters” stuff a bit, because it ended up feeling too gimmicky. I want the deck to feel a bit more midrange-y, with a defensive playstyle until I’m ready to drop a finisher. What do you folks think of the current list?
glad sparrow
with teval you just go infinite. because you sac a creature. then the land. the ...
Oh yeah damn, good shit
Makes me want to build teval again
I just can't pick between teval and hearthhull for a bracket 4 landsy deck
unique path
Made a handful of changes to my deck again. Ended up cutting back on the “power ...
what's your experience been with herd heirloom?
i really like tale end. I also reccomend [[unsubstantiate]]
and maybe a overhwhelming stampede if you are going +X stuff.
i love the interaction suite
my other sugggestion would be to get more land sac outlets as gitrog is your only one that I see besides the self sacrificing ones. so you can get your special land ETBS like the flying or the stun counter one. maybe zuran orb.
you do have some earthbending stuff in there though maybe that's the plan there
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floral sigil
what's your experience been with herd heirloom?
i really like tale end. I also r...
Herd Heirloom is a new addition as of this update. Haven't used it in a game yet. Love the concept of it though.
I don't love the idea of unsubstantiate. I'm playing in mid power bracket 3 so there's not a lot of "uncounterable" spells that I need to worry about. If I was going to add an effect like this, I'd prefer [[Sink into Stupor]]
Overwhelming Stampede was something I cut in this update. I don't know if it was the best choice, but I want to test the deck without it. I run a lot of creature-tutor effects, so I find myself grabbing Tyvar or Hoof out of the deck more often than not.
As for land sac outlets, I really don't like the ones that can be used infinitely like Zuran Orb. Just a personal preference. I tried to run enough lands that sac themselves. I also have [[Tectonic Split]]. If you know of any land sac cards that either have a cost or tap to activate or something like that, I'd be much more open to running those types of cards
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Instant
Return target spell or nonland permanent an opponent controls to its owner's hand.
The kami help travelers find profound relief, by freeing them from their mortal concerns.
Soporific Springs
Land
As this land enters, you may pay 3 life. If you don't, it enters tapped.
: Add .
Desperate travelers journey from across Kamigawa, drawn by rumors of relief from all their troubles.
Enchantment
As an additional cost to cast this spell, sacrifice half the lands you control, rounded up.
Hexproof
Lands you control have ": Add three mana of any one color."
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[[claws of gix]]
also zuran isn't inifite. if you don't have lands you dont gain life
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Artifact
, Sacrifice a permanent: You gain 1 life.
When the Brotherhood of Gix dug out the cave of Koilos they found their master's severed hand. They enshrined it, hoping that one day it would point the way to Phyrexia.
floral sigil
I don't know if "Infinite" is the right word for it, but I just don't like open ended sac outlets. Like for example I hate [[Phyrexian Alter]] but I love [[Phyrexian Tower]]
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Legendary Land
: Add .
, Sacrifice a creature: Add .
"A cursed silhouette to look upon. Even if the halls stand empty, its vile shadows blight the land. I shudder to think of the evils that it held." —Koth
unique path
I don't know if "Infinite" is the right word for it, but I just don't like open ...
i understand! I also love phyrexian tower
i think ashnods is a more fair altar as it's coloreless so unless you are making colored mana some other way, it's harder to go infinite with it
floral sigil
That's not the problem in my mind. I just don't find it fun to take game actions without there being a stop-gap on it like tapping or mana
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I added
[[Puppeteer clique]] it has persist. It flies. And it's gy hate for opponent creatures
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I added
[[Puppeteer clique]] it has persist. It flies. And it's gy hate for oppo...
My favorite card its just value and I love it 🙂
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I used it tonight to get a [[malignus]] out of a yard. Copy it with my new land. Kill the guy who owned it with 2 of them lol. He had the most life
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I used it tonight to get a [[malignus]] out of a yard. Copy it with my new land....
Easy win I love cards that get better the better cards your Opponents play 😄
Is anyone playing the tripple black Ayara ?
Also kinda wanna try gravecrawler again in the Deck but it’s so Hard so find cuts 😮
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Is anyone playing the tripple black Ayara ?
Also kinda wanna try gravecrawler a...
I do and the drain is good
modern solar
I do and the drain is good
Are you also playing phyrexian Altar + gravecrawler oder goldkeeper + gravecrawler and any sac Outlet ?
unique path
No gold keeper
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really thinking about [[coiling rebirth]] because it reminds me of incarnation technique. no mill though. but 2 copies of a single creature can be insane. 2 gravereavers. or mirkwoods
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opal patio
it being a 1/1 is killer though..dies to easy boardwipe
unique path
Mostly gonna be etb or drain effects for me.
What if I get a spark double and have 3 tevals?
Or bring back a gravereaver and have 2 etb mill 3 and potentially get more creatures with both.
The 1/1 doesn't bother me so much. But there are cheaper options than 5 that don't make 2 of whatever you target
opal patio
Mostly gonna be etb or drain effects for me.
What if I get a spark double and ha...
yeah the 1/1 just hits me with Bowmaster too often (i think ive mentioned that before) its played in too many decks around here at B4 ( its boring imo )
unique path
Just realized I need a command beacon in teval. How do I not have one in there. Landfall deck
opal patio
Just realized I need a command beacon in teval. How do I not have one in there. ...
It's really good with earthbending. It's generally one of the first I hit (if it's out) that way I never lose teval
floral sigil
I never ran command beacon in my build because my deck isn’t very commander dependent. If I’ve played my commander 2 times already, I’m probably in a very solid position. I don’t really need to recast it again
opal patio
I never ran command beacon in my build because my deck isn’t very commander depe...
I've only put it in since earthbending. Hitting it with B-Cub to tap for 2 or getting out Teval on turn 1/2 to get going early is nice.
unique path
It's always a nice to have
floral sigil
It is, but I would honestly have a really hard time finding a land I'm willing to cut for it
opal patio
It is, but I would honestly have a really hard time finding a land I'm willing t...
that is absolutely a true statement
unique path
It is, but I would honestly have a really hard time finding a land I'm willing t...
You can cut a not land haha
floral sigil
You can cut a not land haha
Weren’t you the one telling me that I already run too many lands? 
That would put me at 41
unique path
I mean yes lmao 40 is a metric fuck ton. I'm at 34 or 35
modern solar
Anyone here tried out this card AND does each land count as leaving the gy as well ?
frigid edge
Anyone here tried out this card AND does each land count as leaving the gy as we...
Each land counts, but it is more than 1 card leaving during the same action so Teval only triggers once. This card is decent, but is a more conditional version of something more flexible like [[Bala Ged Recovery]]
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Sorcery
Return target card from your graveyard to your hand.
"Always have a backup plan." —Doral, Bala Ged guide
Bala Ged Sanctuary
Land
This land enters tapped.
: Add .
"I know it's around here somewhere." —Doral, Bala Ged guide
unique path
Anyone here tried out this card AND does each land count as leaving the gy as we...
This triggers teval once
It's a cheaper different condition [[seasons past]]
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Good card though
The floor on it is zero. But past 1 black creature it pays for itself and gets more and more efficient. Anything past getting you any 2 cards for 2 mana is bonkers good. The ceiling is high.
I might put into my rendmaw deck as I give out black crows
modern solar
Yeah my pod plays a lot of black tho but thanks for all your thoughts 💭
But my teval deck is so mill heavy it’s insane but kinda like it because you never have turns that feel familiar because it’s so random what you mill 🤣
opal patio
anyone actually give [[The Soul Stone]] a try before. I pulled one today ( i had a gift bundle i was sitting on since McAtlanta), and been wondering if i should give it a go or not
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Legendary Artifact — Infinity Stone
Indestructible
: Add .
, , Exile a creature you control: Harness The Soul Stone. (Once harnessed, its ∞ ability is active.)
∞ — At the beginning of your upkeep, return target creature card from your graveyard to the battlefield.
sterile perch
anyone actually give [[The Soul Stone]] a try before. I pulled one today ( i had...
It’s like a premium mana rock for me it’s not needed but if you have one lying around might as well
opal patio
It’s like a premium mana rock for me it’s not needed but if you have one lying a...
when it was first revealed we had talked a bit about it. But the fact that the 7 mana effect returns a creature every turn is nice for later games, and if you earthbend the land that gets exiled that comes back too 😄
unique path
anyone actually give [[The Soul Stone]] a try before. I pulled one today ( i had...
Easy at for teval and easy to exile a zombie and activate the ability
opal patio
Easy at for teval and easy to exile a zombie and activate the ability
yeah i was going to try putting it in, just wanted to see if anyone actually had tried it as well
unique path
Too expensive for me to buy
unique path
so i added [[lotus field]] back into teval. and I've had pretty good results with it. especially if spelunking is on the field.
I own a [[lotus vale]] and I'm gonna throw that in there to see how i like it as well. it sacs 2 untapped lands, but it taps for 3 right off the bat
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Land
Hexproof
This land enters tapped.
When this land enters, sacrifice two lands.
: Add three mana of any one color.
Land
If this land would enter, sacrifice two untapped lands instead. If you do, put this land onto the battlefield. If you don't, put it into its owner's graveyard.
: Add three mana of any one color.
At what price beauty?
unique path
i'm really enjoying the mana acceleration of depletion lands and other lands that give more than 1 mana at a time
opal patio
i'm really enjoying the mana acceleration of depletion lands and other lands tha...
i think the cool part with depletion lands in teval is its basically a guaranteed hit for teval then, not counting earthbending shenanigans and other return tricks
floral sigil
Played my first game at the LGS with my Teval deck since I’ve added all the earthbending support. I have to say, it went really hard. That was a ton of fun
unique path
That's awesome congrats
devout crescent
there was a card i was looking at that i thought might bo ok in teval( im considering getting the precon)
[[gravespawn sovreign]]
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devout crescent
since teval makes zombies
it seems easy to pull off as well
plus its in green so the fact its 6 mana shouldnt be too much of an issue
floral sigil
since teval makes zombies
I don’t think this would work well if Teval is your only method of getting zombies, but if you’re running something like [[Field of the Dead]] and other additional token makers then yeah I could see it working
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Land
This land enters tapped.
: Add .
Whenever this land or another land you control enters, if you control seven or more lands with different names, create a 2/2 black Zombie creature token.
wise cave
[[tombstone stairwell]]
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World Enchantment
Cumulative upkeep (At the beginning of your upkeep, put an age counter on this permanent, then sacrifice it unless you pay its upkeep cost for each age counter on it.)
At the beginning of each upkeep, if this enchantment is on the battlefield, each player creates a 2/2 black Zombie creature token with haste named Tombspawn for each creature card in their graveyard.
At the beginning of each end step and when this enchantment leaves the battlefield, destroy all tokens created with this enchantment. They can't be regenerated.
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[[tombstone stairwell]]
If you can afford or proxy this card it will 100% win you games especially if you have konrad out or ayara or anything that pings on death
wise cave
If you can afford or proxy this card it will 100% win you games especially if yo...
I got lucky and picked up a couple Tombstones years ago for $4 each
unique path
[[gravespawn sovreign]]
If you cheat this guy out and have 4 zombies it's pretty good
wise cave
I think Ayara and Syr Konrad are the best choices for pinging opponents, especially with Tombstone. The Meathook Massacre is also great. Any thoughts on [[Poison-Tip Archer]]? Not good enough or too many pingers adding it in as well?
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I think Ayara and Syr Konrad are the best choices for pinging opponents, especia...
This definitely feels like a card for a different deck. If you're building Teval as an aristocrats commander then I guess its fine, but I don't know how well teval fits as a commander for that style of deck
wise cave
Yeah that's fair
unique path
I think Ayara and Syr Konrad are the best choices for pinging opponents, especia...
So I took ayara out.
Poison tip archer is just as good as konrad and it's loss of life. And it has reach and deathtouch.
I also like using
[[Mirkwood bats]]
[[Bastion of remembrance]] and other pingers work too
wise cave
Oh yeah... Mirkwood would go nuts with Tombstone as well
unique path
Yes for the first half
wise cave
Oh right. Tombstone doesn't cause you to sacrifice. It's a destroy (bury) effect. Need to read the cards more carefully.
[[funeral room // awakening hall]] would probably be better in Teval than Bastion, if you're going aristocrats
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Enchantment — Room
Whenever a creature you control dies, each opponent loses 1 life and you gain 1 life.
(You may cast either half. That door unlocks on the battlefield. As a sorcery, you may pay the mana cost of a locked door to unlock it.)
Awakening Hall
Enchantment — Room
When you unlock this door, return all creature cards from your graveyard to the battlefield.
(You may cast either half. That door unlocks on the battlefield. As a sorcery, you may pay the mana cost of a locked door to unlock it.)
unique path
[[funeral room // awakening hall]] would probably be better in Teval than Bastio...
I've used the 2nd half of this after a wipe and it's gross
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devout crescent
[[konrad the grim]]
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Legendary Creature — Human Knight
Whenever another creature dies, or a creature card is put into a graveyard from anywhere other than the battlefield, or a creature card leaves your graveyard, Syr Konrad deals 1 damage to each opponent.
: Each player mills a card. (They each put the top card of their library into their graveyard.)
5/4
floral sigil
I stumbled into an accidental combo tonight that resulted in me tutoring for every single land in my deck. There’s a lot of parts to this so I don’t think it’d ever be practical to do it again, but whole thing was so funny I had to share
Permanents on board were
Teval
[[Beifong’s Bounty Hunters]]
Greater Good (any sac outlet)
[[Tectonic Split]]
[[Amulet of Vigor]]
[[Urza’s Cave]]
Steps:
- Sac something to trigger
Bounty Hunters, earthbend Urza’s Cave - Tap a land for 3 mana to activate Urza’s cave and tutor for a land
- Urza’s cave comes back since was earthbent, triggering Teval to make a zombie
- Sac the new zombie to earthbend Urza’s Cave again
- Tap the new land to activate Urza’s cave again and tutor for another land
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Enchantment
As an additional cost to cast this spell, sacrifice half the lands you control, rounded up.
Hexproof
Lands you control have ": Add three mana of any one color."
Land — Urza's Cave
: Add .
, , Sacrifice this land: Search your library for a land card, put it onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle.
No matter how deep Urza delved, he couldn't escape his regrets.
unique path
I stumbled into an accidental combo tonight that resulted in me tutoring for eve...
This is wild.
I did similar with beifong and [[journey to eternity]] to get infinite zombies/etbs/death effects
Beifong is so good
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Legendary Enchantment — Aura
Enchant creature you control
When enchanted creature dies, return it to the battlefield under your control, then return this card to the battlefield transformed under your control.
Every journey has its inevitable end . . .
Atzal, Cave of Eternity
Legendary Land
(Transforms from Journey to Eternity.)
: Add one mana of any color.
, : Return target creature card from your graveyard to the battlefield.
. . . but every end is a new beginning.
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I stumbled into an accidental combo tonight that resulted in me tutoring for eve...
So did you win off this? Discarding 3 after drawing 2 every time will deck you and leave you handless
floral sigil
So did you win off this? Discarding 3 after drawing 2 every time will deck you a...
Yes I won. I only had 2 opponents at the time and I controlled [[Mossborn Hydra]] and [[Mightform Harmonizer]] so my opponents scooped after I showed them the loop
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Creature — Insect Druid
Landfall — Whenever a land you control enters, double the power of target creature you control until end of turn.
Warp (You may cast this card from your hand for its warp cost. Exile this creature at the beginning of the next end step, then you may cast it from exile on a later turn.)
4/4
unique path
Oh yea teval commander and infinite damage and mossborn kills the other guy with 5k damage
glad sparrow
I'm once again thinking of building Teval. I just love a value engine in the CZ which the deck isn't dependent on
I feel like he can be like sultai landfall or just a pure animator list
I'm not sure which I would want. Maybe both?
floral sigil
IMO Teval works better as a lands matters commander, rather than a landfall commander. If that makes sense. Sultai landfall would rather run Glarb
Most Teval decks do run some amount of landfall cards as value pieces obviously, but a dedicated landfall deck typically wants to run some amount of extra land drop cards like [[Azusa, lost but singing]] and those honestly don’t work great with Teval’s kit
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floral sigil
Not me accidentally using the Miku epithet instead of the normal one 
unique path
[[Icetill explorer]] probably best extra land card for teval easily
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unique path
I'm not sure which I would want. Maybe both?
You can have both with cards like
[Port of karfell]
[[Port of karfell]]
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Land
This land enters tapped.
: Add .
, , Sacrifice this land: Mill four cards, then return a creature card from your graveyard to the battlefield tapped. (To mill a card, put the top card of your library into your graveyard.)
modern solar
My last games with him was an absolute blast I added Vesuva to my list and holy this land overperforms hard 😱
unique path
I'm gonna find trouble slotting any more lands in the deck.
I have 2 basics of each and the rest are not basic. 3 fetches. 3 shocks. 3 depletion lands.
Command beacon. Port of karfell. Strip mine. Field of the dead. Then the normal stuff like command tower
Urborg and coffers. Yavimaya. Evando. So many bangers. I guess vesuva can be any of those thats not legendary
remote birch
Phyrexian tower
Shifting woodlands
Lazotep quarry
Talon gates
Are required
Imo
floral sigil
I ran Vesuva and Echoing Deeps for a long time, but eventually ended up cutting both. For every 2 games where they perform amazing, there's one where they're just a tap land and it screws me over. I decided to cut them because I'd rather run things that work all of the time
glad sparrow
Vesuva with Ashaya can do really fun stuff
lofty remnant
So the first precon I ever got was a Gisel and Geralt zombie deck, and I have a Teval precon deck thats seem super strong but I really like playing a tribal deck... is it possible to merge the two decks and build a Teval zombie deck?
I have been searching online, I just dont see that many and most are not that popular
Does Teval not lend itself to a good zombie deck?
unique path
Does Teval not lend itself to a good zombie deck?
You can 100% tailor it however you want. And yea a teval zombie/reanimator would work just fine.
[[Collosal gravereaver]] is your best friend
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unique path
Also [[twilight diviner]]
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lofty remnant
Also [[twilight diviner]]
There is a lot of snake men and a few dragons in the precon teval deck. Should I swap them out for zombies?
except the grace reaver
(too bad it isnt a zombie too XD)
unique path
[[Arcane adaptation]]
[[Conspiracy]]
You can make all your creatures zombies if you want.
That's the magic of EDH. You can do whatever within the rules
floral sigil
There is a lot of snake men and a few dragons in the precon teval deck. Should I...
If there is a zombie card that fills a role your deck needs, then you should run that. But I wouldn’t recommend cutting any good cards purely because they aren’t zombies. Zombies are a unique kindred type because there are a lot of ways to turn other creatures into zombies.
[[lazotep quarry]]
[[cursecloth wrappings]]
[[The scarab god]]
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Land — Desert
: Add .
, Sacrifice a creature: Add one mana of any color.
, , Sacrifice a Desert: Exile target creature card with mana value X from your graveyard. Create a token that's a copy of it, except it's a 4/4 black Zombie. Activate only as a sorcery.
Artifact
Zombies you control get +1/+1.
: Target creature card in your graveyard gains embalm until end of turn. The embalm cost is equal to its mana cost. (Exile that card and pay its embalm cost: Create a token that's a copy of it, except it's a white Zombie in addition to its other types and has no mana cost. Embalm only as a sorcery.)
Legendary Creature — God
At the beginning of your upkeep, each opponent loses X life and you scry X, where X is the number of Zombies you control.
: Exile target creature card from a graveyard. Create a token that's a copy of it, except it's a 4/4 black Zombie.
When The Scarab God dies, return it to its owner's hand at the beginning of the next end step.
5/5
lofty remnant
I have scarab god but not the other two. Will grab them.
I also got Curse of the Restless Dead
[[Curse of the Restless Dead]]
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remote birch
That card is neat
unique path
I also got Curse of the Restless Dead
Great card and on theme for your deck and great with landfall. Your can curse yourself with it
devout crescent
how good it the teval precon out of the box
floral sigil
how good it the teval precon out of the box
Pretty solid, as far as precons go. Its a mid-ish power bracket 2 deck. There's definitely a little bit of awkwardness to it, and a few cards that don't make sense, but you can definitely play it and have fun at a precon table
devout crescent
Pretty solid, as far as precons go. Its a mid-ish power bracket 2 deck. There's ...
if i get it im getting the zombie that lets you tap 5 zombies to reanimate a creature from any graveyard
[[gravespawn sovreign]]
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devout crescent
i know its not the best card ever but i like the design
opal patio
i know its not the best card ever but i like the design
the 'best card' is both subjective and objective. Objectively, there a better purely reanimation cards. Subjectively, if you are playing a deck Bracket 2/3, want some cool flavor, its a cool card for that. Especially if you have a ton of zombie tokes, you can effectively do it a few times in later games
Additionally, its not just your own graveyard, and because it causes the tapping, the zombies can be 'fresh' (summoning sickness), and LASTLY, more importantly, its an instant speed ability, so you can steal opponents cards immediately when they hit the yard, or steal a target they are trying to reanimate before they can.
unique path
I would hold that until end of turn before my turn starts. Or to bring back a blocker. You can block with 5 zombies then tap them
lofty remnant
Pretty solid, as far as precons go. Its a mid-ish power bracket 2 deck. There's ...
I felt it kind of didnt have an identity.
Snakes, demons, elementals, zombies... I thought Tarkir was supposed to be different dragon clans, how is all that a clan?
floral sigil
The precon is a deck, not a story telling device. It’s “identity” is self mill and reanimate
devout crescent
I felt it kind of didnt have an identity.
Snakes, demons, elementals, zombies......
its a reanimator deck
add flavor if you want but its all graveyard synergy
wraith loom
[[glacial godmaw]] and [[beifong bounty hunters]] are so good in teval
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Creature — Leviathan
Trample
When this creature enters, create a Lander token. (It's an artifact with ", , Sacrifice this token: Search your library for a basic land card, put it onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle.")
Landfall — Whenever a land you control enters, creatures you control get +1/+1 and gain vigilance and haste until end of turn.
6/6
lofty remnant
Are there cards I can use to cast sorcery, enchantments or instants from th graveyard
sterile perch
[[conduit of world]] ?
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Artifact
You may play lands from your graveyard.
: Choose target nonland permanent card in your graveyard. If you haven't cast a spell this turn, you may cast that card. If you do, you can't cast additional spells this turn. Activate only as a sorcery.
floral sigil
Are there cards I can use to cast sorcery, enchantments or instants from th grav...
Permanents like enchantments are pretty easy to get out of the GY in this deck. There’s lots of cards that could do it. Instants and Sorceries are a little tougher. Casting them from the GY is typically more of a 
effect. But you always have the option of returning the card to your hand first, and then casting it from there. Plenty of ways to do that. [[Eternal Witness]] is one way that comes in the precon.
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floral sigil
Oops, I meant [[Timeless Witness]]
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Creature — Human Shaman
When this creature enters, return target card from your graveyard to your hand.
Eternalize 
(, Exile this card from your graveyard: Create a token that's a copy of it, except it's a 4/4 black Zombie Human Shaman with no mana cost. Eternalize only as a sorcery.)
2/1
floral sigil
Eternal witness also does it, but that one isn’t in the precon
lofty remnant
Anything with “anytime this attacks” or landfall?
quaint sedge
[[six]] is pretty close
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floral sigil
Anything with “anytime this attacks” or landfall?
Oh, there is [[Diviner of Mists]] in the precon
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lofty remnant
Oh, there is [[Diviner of Mists]] in the precon
Yeah I wish it wasn’t limited to 4 mana 😬
floral sigil
What instants and sorceries are you trying to cast from your GY that are more than 4 mana?
lofty remnant
Sorry I misspoke, I meant enchatments
Stuff like curse of restless dead and endless ranks of the dead has a chance to go crazy if they aren’t thrown into the graveyard by the mills
floral sigil
[[rise of the witch king]] is a very good way to get enchantments out of your GY. You can also cast them from the GY via the effects of cards like [[Conduit of Worlds]] or [[Muldrotha, the gravetide]]
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Artifact
You may play lands from your graveyard.
: Choose target nonland permanent card in your graveyard. If you haven't cast a spell this turn, you may cast that card. If you do, you can't cast additional spells this turn. Activate only as a sorcery.
wraith loom
Are there cards I can use to cast sorcery, enchantments or instants from th grav...
E wit loops / bala ged loops is probably the best way to get them out
You can use teval to put bala ged onto the field and then a bounce land to bounce it back
Or an effect that lets u play lands from gy obv
You just keep saccing the bounce land and play bala ged then play it from graveyard as a land then bounce it to hand
But ewit/ archeomancer is much easier
olive folio
You can also use [[Shigeki, Jukai Visionary]]
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Legendary Enchantment Creature — Snake Druid
, , Return Shigeki to its owner's hand: Reveal the top four cards of your library. You may put a land card from among them onto the battlefield tapped. Put the rest into your graveyard.
Channel — , Discard this card: Return X target nonlegendary cards from your graveyard to your hand.
1/3
olive folio
For 3GGG, Regrowth + Shigeki + Target is an endless engine
unique path
Did you guys know that [[ground seal]] works with teval? He doesn't target.
[[Incarnation technique]] also doesn't target
Lots of other stuff does though
