#Storm's Brewing Projects and Archive

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high parcel
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ok this hand is better

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this hand plays the game

quasi magnet
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yeah

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that hand is juicy

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t2 wood elves, turn 3 potentially both Dryad and Birthing Ritual lol

high parcel
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we drew into worldly and fanatic so this is a turn 4 combo?

quasi magnet
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it could be yeah

high parcel
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wait

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no im off 1

quasi magnet
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especially if we can get lucky on our hits

high parcel
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i have to see a forest actually

quasi magnet
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This hand has some damn promise lol

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its got 2 pieces in hand too so its just getting all 3 out

high parcel
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so wait what am i doing here, it's t1 sol ring t2 wood elves crossroads into t3 ????

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oh this is where i needed the forest actually

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and i didnt draw it

quasi magnet
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you can start to do some step-ups with Birthing Ritual (can also grab Dryad arbor lol)

high parcel
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yeah the plan was grab dryad arbor during opp's turn using fanatic if i dont hit anything 4 power at the 4 slot

quasi magnet
high parcel
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i didnt so we bricked but i think this still does stuff, i just have to play scute swarm typal

quasi magnet
high parcel
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yep that's the game

quasi magnet
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lol forgot I was on 101 cards since I added orb...

high parcel
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oh

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we're not on badgermole cub

quasi magnet
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oh true...

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fuck

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well now I have to find at least 1 cut

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awww, I think its the Shrieker

high parcel
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i kept this hand thinking "oh it's t1 worldly for t2 cub t3 yedora?" but actually it isnt

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because there's no cub

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you dont have to

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that can be one of the concessions to the bracket

quasi magnet
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okay I will def make my Core Yedora list happen lol

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high parcel
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sorry just trying to pay attention to stuff like this while test hands so i can give actual suggestions

quasi magnet
high parcel
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okay so i think this is pretty solidly around where we play

quasi magnet
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yeah

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just need to go down by 1 card

high parcel
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i had some issues with some lines but im not very good at the deck as this is literally the first time ive ever played it

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could be shrieker

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could be yavimaya dryad

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honestly im kinda shocked to see yavimaya dryad and not the harrow guy from mh1

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since one is easier to cast

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[[springbloom druid]]

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quasi magnet
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Dryad, Silverback Elder, Ainok Survivalist, Kamahl's Will

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Yavimaya Dryad can also get Dryad Arbor which can be nice to up the creature count

high parcel
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oh fair

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also this one has a problem when you're at like 1 land and it's urza's saga or whatever

quasi magnet
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tbf, Idk how many lists I want to make where I'd be super happy to keep a 1-lander

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or totally willing to

high parcel
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oh i mean this one is worse in that situation for sure

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than yavimaya dryad

quasi magnet
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true

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yeah

high parcel
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but i think druid is probably the stronger card only because of the cost

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2G > 1GG

quasi magnet
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higher pip counts aren't too big a worry: there are only 3 colorless lands in the deck, and then there's Sol Ring

high parcel
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(also because you can sac a forest creature from yedora and immediately just ramp 2)

quasi magnet
high parcel
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but at that point it's kinda like ???

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splitting hairs, if we have forest creatures the game is probably ending

quasi magnet
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I do like holding my Steve up for when I get Yedora in play so its basically a cultivate

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yeah, once we start getting the already lands animated we don't need to worry too much about ramping via a harrow

high parcel
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still was a thing i thought about while i was playing those test hands

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so i thought i should bring it up

quasi magnet
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oh for sure

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I love to do it

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you hold up your Steve until you can cast Yedora and then you sac it for 2 lands worth

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or you don't clamp the wood elves or feed the birthing ritual until Yedora arrives

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its more greedy

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fun, but greedy

high parcel
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i keep taking 1 landers in the test hands just to see how the deck can play through it

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for mulligan's sake

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and it's much worse than i thought it would be for playing through it

quasi magnet
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I think this deck has room to play off of 2-landers, but 1-landers is not great

high parcel
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again this is not a knock on the deck or anything just trying to get a feel here

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high parcel
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yeah, deck wants land in play, so it makes sense

quasi magnet
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I could cut the Silverback Elder

high parcel
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maybe, but i like having that removal tool

quasi magnet
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yeah

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but also its 5 mana plus another spell for said removal

high parcel
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yeah i found a turn 4 kill

quasi magnet
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oh for sure

high parcel
quasi magnet
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I think the absolute fastest I ever got with my c yedora list was turn 2 or 3

quasi magnet
high parcel
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t1 elf t2 sol ring scute t3 yedora t4 blasting station, game ends?

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i drew 2 lands

quasi magnet
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you need to stick the life and limb

high parcel
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OH

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I FORGOT TO ANIMATE THE FUCKIN LANDS

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aaaaaaaAAAAAAAA

quasi magnet
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but it still works out

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just barely tho

high parcel
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oh wait, yeah

quasi magnet
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barely

high parcel
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because instead i just sac the elf, it becomes a forest, scute swarm makes a guy to untap blasting station

quasi magnet
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because you can sac the elf, make an insect, untap the station, sac the og swarm, cast life and limb

high parcel
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yep

quasi magnet
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but yeah you needed that one extra piece

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scute swarm and springheart nantuko can do some real funny stuff in this deck

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especially if you get a single scute swarm clone

high parcel
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interesting

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yeah maybe it's just the monkey

quasi magnet
high parcel
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hey thats

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high parcel
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turn 2 yedora t3 lethal?

quasi magnet
high parcel
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is that how math works

quasi magnet
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Yedora is 5 mana...

high parcel
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oh nevermind scryb math

quasi magnet
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lol

high parcel
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scryb is 2 mana

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not 1

quasi magnet
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lol

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the draw was thousand-year elixer

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oh okay

high parcel
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punished for not grabbing dryad arbor

quasi magnet
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oh that was the first draw

high parcel
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oh

quasi magnet
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then we can tutor

high parcel
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i thought you meant your turn 2 draw

quasi magnet
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nah

high parcel
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you dont grab arbor though right

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you grab the natural order guy?

quasi magnet
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I think we grab Ambush Commander here

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or Magus of the Order

high parcel
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yeah

quasi magnet
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magus is good

high parcel
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with thousand year elixir magus is 1 cheaper

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truuuuuue

high parcel
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you've never quite greeded like me

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i sneep this

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it was never even a question

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do i lose every time i dont draw a 2nd forest, sure

quasi magnet
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Refresh btw, the list is now at 100

high parcel
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ah

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(im at 100 but this is pre-cub)

quasi magnet
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lol

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I like where we at, after this fish imma go to bed

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work is back tomorrow

high parcel
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i did not draw the second land

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UNFORTUNATE

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well, you have a good night, i think this is better

quasi magnet
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hell yeah

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tahnks friend

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gnight

high parcel
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yw

quasi magnet
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turn 5, infinite mana and life, also turns into infinite pumps from Ambush Commander

quasi magnet
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another turn 5 win:Badgermole cub turned dryad arbor and a t2 land into 5 mana on turn 3, and so we got to GSZ for Ambush on turn 4

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had just enough mana to be able to use LQR to get 3 mana for blasting station on turn 5

rose iris
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I am coming around on the TDC set symbol

sharp flax
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I hadn't noticed it had little eyes.

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quasi magnet
slate tangle
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FUCK YEAH]

quasi magnet
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Im rn just chucking lands in

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but Im trying to think of some ideas for the deck

slate tangle
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Bro

quasi magnet
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I might just lean into some actual token doublers lol

slate tangle
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I just keep looking at the card and its so insane

quasi magnet
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its so sick

slate tangle
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I just want to hit people with it and get stuck there

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My first search was literally

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"otag:gives-haste"

quasi magnet
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oooo

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Surrak and Goreclaw

slate tangle
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Fuck yeah

quasi magnet
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there's a bit of unnecessary there since Koma has trample

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but S&G is a haste enabler

slate tangle
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Im adding [[amonkhet raceway]] for now, for the reload

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quasi magnet
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hmmmm

slate tangle
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[[hall of the bandit lord]] but actually

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slate tangle
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Someone got me addicted to [[glacier godmaw]]

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Creature — Leviathan
Trample
When this creature enters, create a Lander token. (It's an artifact with "mana2, manat, Sacrifice this token: Search your library for a basic land card, put it onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle.")
Landfall — Whenever a land you control enters, creatures you control get +1/+1 and gain vigilance and haste until end of turn.
6/6

slate tangle
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[[Surrak, the hunt caller]] Oh, its a surrak tribal deck

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quasi magnet
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I threw in Adrix and Nev lol

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also someone convince me [[trailtracker scout]] isn't worth it, because I love this thing

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slate tangle
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Yeah i'm peeping your build as you go

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I immedietly stole trailtracker scout

quasi magnet
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I love this card so much

slate tangle
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I like the hedron archive too

quasi magnet
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competing against Tender Wildguide for my fav 2-drop dork ever

quasi magnet
slate tangle
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It feels like im gonna end up on 2>4>7 ramp profile, which is rare for me

quasi magnet
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yeah

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I mean, your CZ has a 7-drop

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you get to play the big dummies

slate tangle
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And boy do I want it in play

quasi magnet
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its fun

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Open the Way seems solid for this one still

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like you can go from 4 to 6

slate tangle
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True

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Its gonna make the cut with a landfall subtheme especially

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If that ends up

quasi magnet
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kinda sad we can't run Noble Hierarch lol

slate tangle
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This is why the old color production rule was better 😉

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jk

quasi magnet
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could also add Esix for some fun

slate tangle
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Yeah

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Im considering extra turn effects ATM

quasi magnet
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those are good

slate tangle
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Because I really want more combats, but im in simic

quasi magnet
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Seedtime lol

slate tangle
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So true

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[[rise of the eldrazi]]

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slate tangle
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Other koma seems like a slam dunk

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[[whelming wave]]

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quasi magnet
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probably, yeah...

slate tangle
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[[summon leviathan]]

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Enchantment Creature — Saga Leviathan
(As this Saga enters and after your draw step, add a lore counter. Sacrifice after III.)
I — Return each creature that isn't a Kraken, Leviathan, Merfolk, Octopus, or Serpent to its owner's hand.
II, III — Until end of turn, whenever a Kraken, Leviathan, Merfolk, Octopus, or Serpent attacks, draw a card.
Ward mana2
6/6

slate tangle
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Oh this is going to be a NICE deck

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[[slinn voda]] omg

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slate tangle
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Why the fuck is the unagi not a serpent -/-

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Oh it is jk

quasi magnet
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we include Great Henge?

slate tangle
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I wont for budget reasons, but it is a joy of a card

quasi magnet
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Im down to make this sort of a budget build

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(im currently at around 200 CK price wise, and that's with the current mana base)

slate tangle
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What would you usually end at?

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Im down to meet in the middle a bit

quasi magnet
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it depends, I don't often brew with budgets in mind when making lists that are just online

slate tangle
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Yeah thats valid

quasi magnet
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my current pricy additions that aren't lands:
Spawning Kraken
Surrak and Goreclaw
Adrix and Nev
Fanatic of Rhonas (this one is not hard to replace)
Koma (OG)
Open the Way

slate tangle
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Lets not consider lands for the budget, thats whatever

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I already have surrak and goreclaw and fanatico f rhonas too 😄

quasi magnet
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the pricier lands:
Shock, Verge, Battlebond, Hall of the Bandit Lord

slate tangle
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Spawnign kraken is in my considering

quasi magnet
slate tangle
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lmao

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There's a ton of spicy cards im considering already

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[[helm of the host]]

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quasi magnet
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adding Three Steps Ahead as a veggie

slate tangle
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Oh nice

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Thats so smart

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arixmethes seems like a good veggie

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[[double major]] is this too spicy?

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quasi magnet
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Im trying to see if any of the Okos are worth trying lol

quasi magnet
slate tangle
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I love all the okos

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I think im going for a sea monster tribal thing

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[[invasion of segovia]]

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Battle — Siege
(As a Siege enters, choose an opponent to protect it. You and others can attack it. When it's defeated, exile it, then cast it transformed.)
When this Siege enters, create two 1/1 blue Kraken creature tokens with trample.
Defense: 4

Caetus, Sea Tyrant of Segovia
Legendary Creature — Serpent
Noncreature spells you cast have convoke. (Your creatures can help cast those spells. Each creature you tap while casting a noncreature spell pays for mana1 or one mana of that creature's color.)
At the beginning of your end step, untap up to four target creatures.
3/3

quasi magnet
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see this is how you sell me on stuff

slate tangle
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I added serpent of yawning depths and spawning kraken

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quasi magnet
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I was looking at OTJ Oko

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that ultimate is funny as heck

slate tangle
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Which one is that

quasi magnet
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[[oko the ringleader]]

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Legendary Planeswalker — Oko
At the beginning of combat on your turn, Oko becomes a copy of up to one target creature you control until end of turn, except he has hexproof.
+1: Draw two cards. If you've committed a crime this turn, discard a card. Otherwise, discard two cards.
−1: Create a 3/3 green Elk creature token.
−5: For each other nonland permanent you control, create a token that's a copy of that permanent.
Loyalty: 3

slate tangle
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It is the 4 mana one

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Oh my

quasi magnet
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and no one can hit him because you have so many fishies

slate tangle
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Wait this is very good

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This is underplayed

quasi magnet
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yeah

slate tangle
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If this was a red card people would know about it

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100%

quasi magnet
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or a white card lol

slate tangle
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Yeah

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I was just thinking that

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[[archipelagore|IKO|283]] why does this guy suck

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Creature — Leviathan
Mutate mana5manau (If you cast this spell for its mutate cost, put it over or under target non-Human creature you own. They mutate into the creature on top plus all abilities from under it.)
Whenever this creature mutates, tap up to X target creatures, where X is the number of times this creature has mutated. Those creatures don't untap during their controller's next untap step.
7/7

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The art is so good

quasi magnet
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limited

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I love Stormsurge kraken but we're gambling a bit with any kind of lieutenants...

slate tangle
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Seems hard to fit on the curve, but I do like the idea of it

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It is a 5/5 though, cant complain too much

quasi magnet
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WAR Kiora should be here

slate tangle
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Yes

quasi magnet
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same with MAT Kiora likely

slate tangle
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[[kiora bests the sea god]] the flavor...

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Enchantment — Saga
(As this Saga enters and after your draw step, add a lore counter. Sacrifice after III.)
I — Create an 8/8 blue Kraken creature token with hexproof.
II — Tap all nonland permanents target opponent controls. They don't untap during their controller's next untap step.
III — Gain control of target permanent an opponent controls. Untap it.

slate tangle
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Also holy shit, this deck is mono cyclonic rifts

quasi magnet
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hmmm, I should maybe add some 1-drops

slate tangle
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I have dorks

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I couple

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lol

quasi magnet
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rn I just have 4 2-drop ones lol

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kinda wish there was a 1-drop simic dork lol

slate tangle
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That would be so nice

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I honestly wish they printed real creatures in this color

quasi magnet
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this color combo, yeah

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a bit

slate tangle
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A bit yeah

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There are holes

quasi magnet
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shamanic revelation probably for draw

slate tangle
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Rishkar's seems solid as always as well

quasi magnet
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true

slate tangle
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[[scourge of the fleets]] another cyc rift btw

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quasi magnet
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mhmm

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refresh my list lol

slate tangle
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Oh yeah

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Esix is hilarious

quasi magnet
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I wanna put Mirror Box in because of Esix and Oko

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Mirror Box, attack with Koma, Esix replaces the 4 Coils with 4 more Komas

slate tangle
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[[elemental bond]] is gas

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slate tangle
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so is garruk's packleader

slate tangle
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Im considering cutting my dorks and adding more mass bounce

quasi magnet
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lol

slate tangle
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I never play ramp decks, how many 2/4 cmc ramp spells do you usually play? Im thinking 15/15, but that might be a little high lmao

quasi magnet
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sort of depends

slate tangle
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Also let the record state this deck rules

quasi magnet
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my 2-drop ramp currently is 6 and 4 drop ramp is I think just 4 (if we count Tender Wildguide in the mix)

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tho i think I could be on more

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I did add Clifftop Lookout and Elvish Rejuvenator lol

slate tangle
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Thats awesome

quasi magnet
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Im not tutoring this deck unless I need to proc demo field

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also I did add [[case of the locked hothouse]]

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quasi magnet
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I mean, we play Rite of Replication right?

slate tangle
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Oh

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Yes we do

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I wish xolatoyac was better in my build

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[[bugenhagen]] the man is here

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quasi magnet
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oh true

slate tangle
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[[desync]]

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Multiple cards match “desync”, can you be more specific?

slate tangle
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[[desynchronization]]

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slate tangle
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cat car!

quasi magnet
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lol

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quit pandering

:p

slate tangle
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[[city of death]]

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slate tangle
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[[emergent woodwurm]]

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Creature — Wurm
Backup 3 (When this creature enters, put three +1/+1 counters on target creature. If that's another creature, it gains the following ability until end of turn.)
Whenever this creature attacks, look at the top X cards of your library, where X is its power. You may put a permanent card with mana value X or less from among them onto the battlefield. Put the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order.
4/4

quasi magnet
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okay now you're REALLY pandering...

😛

slate tangle
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Oh is this a you card

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I actually didnt know

quasi magnet
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its from MOM, it has backup

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I like

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I have a huge soft spot for the backup cards

slate tangle
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It seems good

quasi magnet
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hmm, should probably add some more veggies...

slate tangle
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I've got a stable seeming 100 to tweak

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I probably want more draw, and I definitely lack interaction, but its a start

quasi magnet
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Starwinder lol

slate tangle
quasi magnet
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auton soldier

slate tangle
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I do have too many 7 drops though

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I think

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Or

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Maybe I dont have enough 6 drops

quasi magnet
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86 cards in and this is the current curve

can probably load the rest of the deck on the front

slate tangle
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Your curve looks so responsible in comparison to mine

quasi magnet
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I have close to no veggies yet so that's next

slate tangle
wind bison
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That koma has always been a weird one for me

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Seems like an okay finisher but just… doesn’t doa lot

trim minnow
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Yeah but snake babies

slate tangle
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Plus snake babies

trim minnow
slate tangle
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A starter because it curves easily off of double ramp and cant be countered

quasi magnet
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And god forbid you give it haste lol

slate tangle
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My friend made fun of me for only playing lavaspur

trim minnow
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Those are the nonbasic landwalk boots right?

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I wonder if [[skateboard]] is good enough for that kind of effect

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trim minnow
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No protection unlike the boots though

slate tangle
trim minnow
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Oh that's right

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I was thinking of [[trailbalzer's boots]] for some reason

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quasi magnet
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@slate tangle @trim minnow thoughts on [[ennis, debate moderator]] for Phelia?

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@high parcel idk if you've messed with the dog (I thought I recalled you had but I couldn't remember)

high parcel
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no, i do think dog good though

quasi magnet
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damn

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you gotta join the club

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there's a few of us who were messing with lists for it

high parcel
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no, it's just not my deal

quasi magnet
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fair

high parcel
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remember i actually like having multiple colors despite my propensity lately to play red

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high parcel
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damn i gotta use that emoji more

quasi magnet
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but I understand

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DOG

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quasi magnet
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imma try it out

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see how I like in the brew

slate tangle
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I need to get the chance to play my list some more

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Its done only winning so far

sharp flax
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I like Ennis but he's probably third of the uncommon mono-colored legends for me

quasi magnet
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(not urgent by any means, just on a "whenever you can and whatever comes to mind" basis)

quasi magnet
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was gonna ping ya @trim minnow but remembered green aint your speed lol

trim minnow
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I like green well enough!

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I'm not a huge fan of voltron however

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You're just justifying me to run more edicts

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Ah I see, that's what tajuru preserver is for

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sharp flax
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There are cards my brain was expecting going in but I'm not great at green so I probably shouldn't be shocked

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[[Frenzied baloth]] [[allosaurus shepherd]] etc.

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quasi magnet
sharp flax
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Storm, you were the person poking at trying to find a deck for Sway the stars, right?

quasi magnet
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I was messing with that yeah

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was going between TDM Taigam and OTJ Fblthp

sharp flax
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New Zaffai is one I've seen talked about for it

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So you Zaffai, cast sway or a spell like it, and phase zaffai out

quasi magnet
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which one is that?

sharp flax
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[[Zaffai and the tempests]]

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sharp flax
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Sway on the stack, [[slip out the back]] or something like it

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quasi magnet
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ah

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neat

sharp flax
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So you can both cast spells when it gets back to you and just, attack opponents

quasi magnet
slate tangle
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So I think mine is going to be blink stax

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I want to gun down a bunch of artifacts and stuff

quasi magnet
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might do that

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Im sort of in the "throwing ideas out" stage

slate tangle
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Yours looks more aggro right now, which I was also thinking about

slate tangle
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[[striped bears]] lmao

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slate tangle
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[[kinscaer sentry]]

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quasi magnet
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oops, sudden Ajani's Pridemate

quasi magnet
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(sorry for waking anyone up; its barely 5 am where I am but a nightmare got to me)

sharp flax
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Thoughts on earthbending inclusions here

quasi magnet
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oh maybe

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yeah I should be on cub, huh

sharp flax
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It, ba sing and earthbenders are what I was looking at yeah

quasi magnet
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ascension?

sharp flax
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Yeah, at least it's sitting there in my mind but lowest

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[[Earthbender's ascension]]

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Enchantment
When this enchantment enters, earthbend 2. Then search your library for a basic land card, put it onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle.
Landfall — Whenever a land you control enters, put a quest counter on this enchantment. When you do, if it has four or more quest counters on it, put a +1/+1 counter on target creature you control. It gains trample until end of turn.

quasi magnet
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my consider board is full of potential adds

sharp flax
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Talon gates

quasi magnet
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I am on crop rot yeah

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god I love crop rotation

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moving Joraga to the main board, its kind of just a second sol ring

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also I def should be on proteus machine

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dropping Sylvan Safekeeper for now

sharp flax
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[[Proteus machine]]

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sharp flax
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Right that one

quasi magnet
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yeah it allows for infinites on its own

sharp flax
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Does [[crystal vein]] work here with the land loop combos?

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quasi magnet
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so you just need it, yedora, and the outlet instead of the animation piece

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it is a land that can sac itself

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odds are tho it just creates one instances of a sacrifice

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since turning the lands faceup doesn't really happen

sharp flax
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Huh

quasi magnet
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[[temur charger]] also does this too, actually

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quasi magnet
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not as easily as machine, but it does

sharp flax
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Yeah

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But was thinking about earthbending because it's another animate land=>return mechanics route

quasi magnet
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ye

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just realized Im not on shifting woodland

sharp flax
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That was the other land I noticed wasn't there

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[[Zuran orb]] was a nonland I noticed and had been expecting

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quasi magnet
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Zuran orb is interesting here

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it helps with the loop but only once the lands are all animated

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which is still good

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it still can basically help do the loop

sharp flax
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Yeah, it also is searchable with urza

quasi magnet
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mhmm

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its just a bit more specific than say Altar of Dementia or Blasting Station

sharp flax
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Yeah

quasi magnet
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its a combo that doesn't immediately win, and needs a more specific setup where its actually comboing

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like you can't protues combo with zuran orb

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I probably shouldn't be on Seedtime but idk, I like it lol

sharp flax
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[[Leafkin]] feels weird here though I understand it

sturdy galeBOT
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Multiple cards match “Leafkin”, can you be more specific?

quasi magnet
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its sort of a holdover from a previous iteration

sharp flax
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Leafkin druid

quasi magnet
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yea

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it was like "its a 2-drop dork, that sometimes taps for 2"

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but i think priest of titania does that better and so does joraga treespeaker

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I think Leafkin and Incubation druid are looking like cuts rn

sharp flax
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Mm. Incubation is an elf, but yeah

quasi magnet
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it is yeah

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It just often is gonna be tapping for 1

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Im not gonna get a counter on it that easily

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I can hold on it for now but I think it will get the cut

sharp flax
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Yeah

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Badgermole makes sense as a sub for it

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Or one of them

quasi magnet
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leafkin is gone

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Im currently 4 over (maybe refresh)

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consider board has more stuff and the main board has 4 cuts to make on top fo that lol

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pulling from a convo elsewhere: how about winter moon?

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or similar?

sharp flax
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It does ping you here because the lands are still nonbasic

quasi magnet
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yes

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but odds are once im turning my lands back with yedora im comboing off

sharp flax
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True

quasi magnet
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it mainly hits my buildup when i dont have that many basics

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I put it in the consider board for now

sharp flax
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I adore winter moon fwiw. I think it can work for yedora but I'm not sure?

quasi magnet
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I think it can too

sharp flax
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If it works in the list you'll know it because it will actively feel like you're pulling away.

quasi magnet
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right

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if/when I finish this list, I can proxy and try it out locally

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a few of the locals play c so I can try it with them

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could also maybe try it around with Pell and a couple people here if time and ability permits

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but yeah part of why I wanted to get input from some of yall is Im not as familiar with C

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hmmmmmmmm

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Grim Monolith?

sharp flax
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Maybe? Cogs turning on that

quasi magnet
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it helps me get to 5 faster

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kind of the logic there

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part of my moment of panic thinking about this list was this morning going "am I on mana vault or not? surely I am but I gotta check!"

quasi magnet
rose iris
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Just set off on a car trip so I’ve got time to check :)

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(My brother is driving)

quasi magnet
rose iris
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Yeah lmao

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My current thought would be to cut Magus of the Order? I know its a tutor for combo but it’s 4mv, plus G plus tap itself and sac another creature

quasi magnet
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I can definitely put it in line, I think Incubation Druid is next on the chopping block?

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I am sort of stuck in "find cuts" and "these other potential adds could maybe go in too so..."

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the considering board has 11 potential additions

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tho I am throwing cuts into there

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so maybe i just take leafkin out of that board

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Im also just wondering if its better to have 2 more basics over Centaur Garden and Castle Garenbrig

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especially if I do want to be on Winter Moon

rose iris
quasi magnet
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setup Im probably only getting from the druid itself

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which is 5 mana

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so its either a druid of the cowel or a gilded lotus that also makes cradle, CoDD, and Priest of Titania better

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quasi magnet
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Any advice: additions, swaps, cuts, etc, all appreciated

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I just cant actually modify the list for another couple hours minimum

bright rampart
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no rhytm tho?

quasi magnet
bright rampart
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ye

quasi magnet
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I think its in the consider board

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The consider board has like 11 ideas

bright rampart
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the card is crazy

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[[Nature's Rhythm]]

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quasi magnet
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Its pretty good

bright rampart
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card has overperformed in other decks

quasi magnet
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Mhmm

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Ill push it into the main deck so its up for a slot

bright rampart
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would replace sylvan tutor with it

quasi magnet
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Oh true

bright rampart
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have you considered [[reverent silence]]? and [[Heartwood Storyteller]]

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rose iris
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The fact that its been rising in popularity as the green rhystic in cedh is delightful to me

bright rampart
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its just so dangers trying to spellsling a win through heartwood and you are a creature / land deck

quasi magnet
bright rampart
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card of the year tbh

sharp flax
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As a good way to draw the game

bright rampart
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it for sure is

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its annoyance is geting bigger than rhystics at the top

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but i also think if that card destroy you maybe its time to play some slaughter pacts

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and we are starting to see more pacts

rose iris
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Mfw the turbo decks which have cut interaction to speed up their win suddenly get slowed down by stax/counter-engines
-# counter-engines as in engines set up by your opponents

quasi magnet
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okay, I have pushed myself up to 110 cards

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I think the current lineup for potential cuts, based on my own thoughts:
Incubation Druid
Nature's Claim
Seedtime
Manglehorn
Magus of the Order
Karn(?)

that's not enough cuts, however, and Im not sure if they're the right ones outside of probably Incubation Druid

quasi magnet
quasi magnet
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cuts I just made: Heritage Druid, Incubation Druid, Craterhoof, Seedtime

quasi magnet
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Up to 1 cut left, for now

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well 2, somehow forgot to put Fanatic of Rhonas in here

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Cuts made so far: Heritage Druid, Incubation Druid, Hoof, Seedtime, Magus of the Order, Sylvan Tutor, Tooth and Nail, Evolutionary Leap, Castle Garenbrig, Centaur Garden, Leafkin Druid, Fellwar Stone, Sylvan Safekeeper

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the cards Im thinking about cutting: Manglehorn, Scute Swarm, Selvala, Glimpse of Nature, Nature's Claim, Grim Monolith, Earthbender Ascension

any other ideas are appreciated tho

quasi magnet
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@sharp flax Im not sure about the Ascension

I think its sweet but I feel like its just for the rampant growth and earthbend and idk if that does enough?

sharp flax
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It was a thought not a "I'm sure I'm right on this"

quasi magnet
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no that's fair

sharp flax
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It gives trample eventually as well

quasi magnet
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I have the list at 100 now so Imma mess with it

quasi magnet
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its a good card, I will def keep it in the board to mess with

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this goldfish feels nice so far

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tutor for ambush commander with the battle next turn or the turn after

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sadly can't also play the lotus cobra but that feels pretty solid

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turn 5 win this time, but still feels good. also infinite mana in this case because of nissa

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and an Autumn's Veil and LQR for protection of pieces

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this def seems like an interesting keep with the winter moon

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the outcome

quasi magnet
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realized having a sac outlet on a creature would be very nice, largely due to not always having ways to put myself in a winning position if I don't draw into a sac outlet

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gonna try out [[baru, fist of krosa]] as an alternative to hoof to find with a creature tutor if I don't need to find Ambush Commander, and [[starved rusalka]] as an outlet to find with the creature tutors as well

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quasi magnet
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cycling out to try them: Boreal Druid, Manglehorn

quasi magnet
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@dapper otter this is a turn 2 TOR with a few of the combo pieces in hand lol

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turn 5 win

dapper otter
quasi magnet
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any ideas you have are appreciated

dapper otter
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Only had like 5 goldfishes so small sample size, feels like I got flooded with value but not much to output into

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I will need about 20 more goldfishes before I can give advice

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At least

quasi magnet
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this turn 3 is infinite mana and a chord of calling on deck to grab whatever I want, probably Baru to take a player out

dapper otter
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I high key think I just drew unlucky while blind reviewing so take that with a grain of salt

quasi magnet
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it does help Ive played this commander for a few years and know the lines well enough, but idk what your situation is with her

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this is where i want to have Evolutionary Leap lol

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infinite mana, let me draw every creature

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I did misplay this playthrough a bit, but its okay

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I have the option to do infinite mana and infinite life, or infinite mana and make a big body that can kill a player each turn

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here's a turn 4 win. TOR is not okay

quasi magnet
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infinite turn 6 after going into top-deck mode on turn 4

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the finale was a draw I needed considering I had infinite mana

quasi magnet
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and this is why having a card like Baru is actually very good, and a creature on a sac outlet

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another turn 5 infinite

Im really glad I reworked this list because I don't think I was on Proteus Machine or Temur Charger in the first list, which seems silly

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wait, nope

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this is the one infinite proteus machine doesn't do infinitely

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blasting station

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well, not without some sort of animator, but that point we already don't need the proteus machine

sharp flax
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So, my other thought on storyteller that's more specific to your deck is I think it's important to note it was originally brought into the meta by Sam Black in Rog Thras

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The commanders both coming down before the storyteller plus having more colors available is an important difference in what it can do for the deck and the strategy

quasi magnet
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mhmm

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turn 5 infinite win

sharp flax
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It's basically a more pro-social lantern

quasi magnet
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turn 6 this time

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dang, earthbending a City of Traitors is pretty good, eh?

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more turn 5

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this went infinite on turn 4, but its an infinite that doesn't win right away, so I have kept going

this one does win assuming the right battlefield since I can pump the whole team

sharp flax
quasi magnet
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mhmm

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its pretty good alongside cub and it pairs good with Ba Sing Se

sharp flax
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Yeah

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Ba sing felt like a free include too

quasi magnet
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mhmm

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its felt better than some of the other nonbasics I cut too

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also, as far as goldfishing can take it, haven't ran into too many times where winter moon is dead or a problem for me that much

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turn 6 win only because temur charger gives trample so we infinite pump all the ones that can attack and then just swing (in this case, with how much the ambush commander costs to use, its mana neutral, so we do go infinite)

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Im gonna try greeding with this

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(with the way I do presumed turn order, this hand would be going second)

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very clunky, but it wins turn 6 by using scute swarm and temur charger to loop w/ blasting station

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feels a bit risky but if I can get enough mana then that invasion has my wincon

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(going last lol)

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(drew off TOR on turn 2 into said piece to find, so that's not necessary lol)

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primed to win t5

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what's funny is so long as Yedora is the largest creature on the field, I can draw my whole deck with selvala and infinite mana

sharp flax
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So hope no Etali?

quasi magnet
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yeah lol

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that or Lumra

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I really wanna play this against some other decks

quasi magnet
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turn 4 win this time: proteus machine facedown, so infinite mana, and then Baru gives us infinite pump to win via combat damage using any 3 fo the 4 creatures w/o summoning sickness

quasi magnet
quasi magnet
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Well ill post it in a bit, once I find the urge to get out of bed

But Ive now begun making a list for a MSH commander because of an idea that came into my head

quasi magnet
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holy moly Im having fun

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the wording on this commander is hilarious

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so you cast that new paradigm spell on your upkeep because how that trigger works? make some tokens with it

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@rose iris

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I figure you might actually like this

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at least on paper

high parcel
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storm where is our master of the pearl trident 🙁

quasi magnet
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hang on, hang on

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Im first doing the cards that trigger the commander

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the creatures are coming

high parcel
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oh ok

quasi magnet
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also Im not at a reasonable land count

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oh this is not at the cutting step yet

high parcel
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i was like "wait we have LOA and not Master 🙁 "

quasi magnet
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any suggestions will be appreciated

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this mana curve lol

its pre-cuts but also...

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definitely need to trim down on the sorcery count

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I thought about an enchantress subtheme

quasi magnet
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now I have to make nearly 70 cuts

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depending on the cuts, I will def cut Entity Tracker

quasi magnet
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@warm gyro @lethal portal @wind bison sorry for the pings but I wanted to throw yall into this one

wind bison
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Squee

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Voltron?

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Light abd shadow seems mid as hell

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Like if you want protection you’d probably be better off jamming Tyvar’s Stand/Tamiyo’s safekeeping

warm gyro
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Wandering archaic my beloved

wind bison
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The lures are also insanely powerful

quasi magnet
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it is the only sword in the deck tho that gives pro black

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put Sinew and Steel into the sideboard

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which is semi redundant with what its damage trigger is, but the protection it offers is good

quasi magnet
cedar lynx
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Day of the Dragon style stuff doesn't matter with enough tokens. So I would choose the path.

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Namor being a cast trigger also is important to keep in mind since phasing won't contribute to the value machine.

quasi magnet
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I think its kinda funny

cedar lynx
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It's cool but, also negates all the anthem merfolks.

quasi magnet
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Thats kind of it

quasi magnet
sturdy galeBOT
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Legendary Creature — Human Athlete
mana2, manaq: The Ice Dancer gains flying until end of turn. (manaq is the untap symbol.)
Whenever The Ice Dancer deals combat damage to a player, create a Gold token. Then you draw X cards and gain X life, where X is the number of artifact tokens you control. The Ice Dancer deals X damage to each opponent. (A Gold token is an artifact with "Sacrifice this token: Add one mana of any color.")
2/2

quasi magnet
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because this card impressed me SO MUCH in Vegas

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gonna be just a lot of throwing in cards to start, so ANY/ALL suggestions are gonna be greatly appreciated

sharp flax
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I'd just like to say that card is a little bit broken

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[[worldwalker helm]]

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sharp flax
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[[stridehanger automaton]]

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sharp flax
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[[retrofitter foundry]]

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sharp flax
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[[forensic gadgeteer]]

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wind bison
sharp flax
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[[adaptive omnitool]]

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sharp flax
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[[improvised arsenal]]

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sharp flax
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[[jaws, relentless]]

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sharp flax
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[[all that glitters]]

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sharp flax
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[[edgar king]]

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sharp flax
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[[nettlecyst]]

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sharp flax
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[[uthros, titanic]]

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quasi magnet
quasi magnet
sharp flax
quasi magnet
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Mhmm

sharp flax
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If you can give her double strike [[field tested frying pan]]

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quasi magnet
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I will be throwing all these in once I have time

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But work calls

green niche
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Works with double strike: Boros Charm, Akroma's Will, Duelist's Heritage?, Sunhome Fortress of the Legion, Bruse Tarl Boorish Herder...

Edit to add: Swashbuckler Extraordinaire, Kayla's Command

sharp flax
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Urza, unwinding clock

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etb artifact pings, haliya

green niche
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-# I haven't seen Spiteful Repossession before. 👀

quasi magnet
sharp flax
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Sheldon disliked that card

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Is why I never recommend it of all the NCC cards

slate tangle
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[[Spiteful repos]]

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slate tangle
sharp flax
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I can find the conversation I had with him

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From what I remember he felt it was underwhelming for what you get

slate tangle
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Oh sure

sharp flax
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Ok no, I misremembered (this was 4 years ago). He liked punishment instead of armageddon

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But wasn't like advocating for it?

slate tangle
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I see

sharp flax
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This was my comment on it in the feedback thread and the problems I had #sheldons-article-feedback message

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So like, in a hearthhull deck where you float mana, sac your lands to drain and then cast it?

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But if you're just playing it like, straight, it's not a big difference

quasi magnet
green niche
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I think playing it just for treasure reasons will probably be underwhelming. Since you have secondary benefits to those treasures, I can see it being worth a try.
In my case, I considered it for Magar where I'd intend to re-cast and without the 5 mana investment each time.

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Should probably include Lotus Field and/or Vale considering.

green niche
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Sundering Eruption is good for every this deck.

quasi magnet
green niche
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-# I know. lol It's so good.

quasi magnet
quasi magnet
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So Im at 100 cards

I do plan to keep adding more so any more suggestions are appreciated

quasi magnet
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Because I feel like there’s a lot more I could add but Im just blanking

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And edhrec has no page for this for any final ideas

sharp flax
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Propaganda feels weird to me

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Both for the "ah yes, olympics are propaganda" message and that it's the only one of that effect you have

quasi magnet
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But fair

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I did consider the other ones

sharp flax
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I figured it wasn't, but it's probably a byproduct of being old and how the olympics were talked about when I was younger

quasi magnet
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Ah

sharp flax
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If you were alive for the end of the "freedom vs USSR communism" narrative ...

quasi magnet
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I was not

warm gyro
warm gyro
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Big sad

quasi magnet
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I do have a copy tho