question, why are we on this kaito and not the good one
#Umaru’s Decklist Thread
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Legendary Planeswalker — Kaito
Ninjutsu 
(, Return an unblocked attacker you control to hand: Put this card onto the battlefield from your hand tapped and attacking.)
During your turn, as long as Kaito has one or more loyalty counters on him, he's a 3/4 Ninja creature and has hexproof.
+1: You get an emblem with "Ninjas you control get +1/+1."
0: Surveil 2. Then draw a card for each opponent who lost life this turn.
−2: Tap target creature. Put two stun counters on it.
Loyalty: 4
frail flare
[[Rona|mom]]?
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molten geode
rona could be good but our legend count isn't high, so i think actually baby jace is usually better in the slot she'd go in?
frail flare
[[Rona, herald]]
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Legendary Creature — Human Wizard
Whenever you cast a legendary spell, untap Rona.
: Draw a card, then discard a card.
: Transform Rona. Activate only as a sorcery. ( can be paid with either or 2 life.)
1/3
Rona, Tolarian Obliterator
Legendary Creature — Phyrexian Wizard
Trample
Whenever a source deals damage to Rona, that source's controller exiles a card from their hand at random. If it's a land card, you may put it onto the battlefield under your control. Otherwise, you may cast it without paying its mana cost.
"At last, I am compleat."
5/5
molten geode
[[jace vryns prodigy]]
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Legendary Creature — Human Wizard
: Draw a card, then discard a card. If there are five or more cards in your graveyard, exile Jace, then return him to the battlefield transformed under his owner's control.
"People's thoughts just come to me. Sometimes I don't know if it's them or me thinking."
0/2
Jace, Telepath Unbound
Legendary Planeswalker — Jace
+1: Up to one target creature gets -2/-0 until your next turn.
−3: You may cast target instant or sorcery card from your graveyard this turn. If that spell would be put into your graveyard, exile it instead.
−9: You get an emblem with "Whenever you cast a spell, target opponent mills five cards."
Loyalty: 5
molten geode
hard to say, hard to leg
frail flare
She can flip though
molten geode
etc.
frail flare
In a zoo deck that backside is useful
molten geode
yeah fair
but i do still think current kaito should be the one that 0s to surveil 2 draw 3 cards
and grows himself every turn if you don't
frail flare
Eh, I understand why Umaru has the one that gives unblockable though
frail flare
It's great
molten geode
i try to find a slot for him in any deck he can go in haha
frail flare
It's tymna text
molten geode
it is better tymna text with upside
frail flare
I'm on phone, typing is going to be less exact
molten geode
oh im just agreeing
it's actually better because kaito doesnt care if it's combat damage
so like, a blood artist still makes him 0 to draw 3
doesnt matter here but does matter elsewhere
misty geyser
[[kaito bane of nightmares]]
Just seems okay, but tbh I could probably put it in there
misty geyser
so like, a blood artist still makes him 0 to draw 3
There’s no guarantee I’ll hit all 3 opponents though, is why I’d be concerned there
But you might be right
Surveil 2 alone is pretty deece
misty geyser
Thoughts on a cut for it?
misty geyser
Unblockable is huge in this deck
Boards get really sticky/full, especially in my area
Thinking one of my just-for-mill pieces can go
Since I have 35 cards that put cards in yard
Like maybe cephalid vandal?
Mesmeric orb also might go, tbh it helps opponents doing unfair stuff a lot more than I am using it for
I feel like I’d just be kingmaking some big reanimator list
Not to mention it’s a $40 card I don’t have
misty geyser
Am i?
misty geyser
Right
hasty portal
That Oil Counter tech is super clever!
misty geyser
So I’ve had a few games with the deck now, and it’s really fun! People are constantly scrambling to find something that can claw them out of the hole I out them in, games go a good bit longer which intentionally places me in a position to win - the deck has some real bad matchups like reanimator or weirdly the two Ketramose decks I’ve played against with it.
edgy marsh
Kotis?
molten geode
j u n d
edgy marsh
Nah sorry this is jund
Coram?
misty geyser
Yeah
edgy marsh
That list looked cool
molten geode
So I’ve had a few games with the deck now, and it’s really fun! People are const...
ketramose'd on
i wish i was someone who enjoyed ketramose, it seems like it just hoses a ton of decks while getting to play a really solid fair game
but i don't like casting Rest in Peace
misty geyser
i wish i was someone who enjoyed ketramose, it seems like it just hoses a ton of...
I just want to have enough pieces to make orzhov mill
dense wadi
So I’ve had a few games with the deck now, and it’s really fun! People are const...
Sounds like it’s working as intended
misty geyser
Definitely - run the board down and out of resources until I can land a threat or two to grind opponents down.
hushed tapir
i wish i was someone who enjoyed ketramose, it seems like it just hoses a ton of...
I just wish the aetherdrift set symbol was better
sick locust
~~I just wish the aetherdrift set symbol was better~~
Same
Tho I dont hate it
frail flare
Ketramose is a weird commander
So it's not shocking it's a weird matchup
It just is going to generate a lot of card advantage and the exile is a good way to deal with the permanents
misty geyser
Both would be not great against Coram
I mean obv I wanna exile their stuff but an opponent’s dauthi means I don’t get anything with coram
misty geyser
So back to Kotis
I’m wondering if some ferocious synergy exists
I realize I really need trample. And [[Cosmogoyf]] is a necessary include
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misty geyser
Constantly gets bigger as my gy gets smaller
And if someone bojuka bogs me, it gets huge
weak raven
I'm assuming you're brewing commander deck Kotis based on mention of grave value?
molten geode
I’m wondering if some ferocious synergy exists
If there aren't any very specific ones, there's always Stubby D, Deceptive Frostkite, and Fanatic of Rhonas.
frail flare
[[Kotis, Sibsig Champion]]
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misty geyser
I'm assuming you're brewing commander deck Kotis based on mention of grave value...
Yeah
misty geyser
If there aren't any very specific ones, there's always Stubby D, Deceptive Frost...
I was mostly thinking of Outcaster Trailblazer tbh
misty geyser
So I’m thinking of changes to make to this deck I’ve had around for a minute
I’m considering changing out the mostly aggressive creatures for more defensive options, and preferably making it instant speed
I also need to lower the curve overall I think
Kinda making combat choices based on “free” attacks instead of nosediving into combat willy nilly
edgy marsh
Lightning army of one, Duelists heritage, curious Colossus could be interesting too
[[disrupt decorum]]
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Sorcery
Put a double strike counter on target creature, then goad each creature that had a double strike counter put on it this way. (Until your next turn, those creatures attack each combat if able and attack a player other than you if able.)
Overload 
(You may cast this spell for its overload cost. If you do, change "target" in its text to "each.")
edgy marsh
[[dawn charm]]
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molten geode
[[spectacular showdown]]
I've never seen this card before, what the hell
frail flare
It's a card that gets a lot of love and hate
molten geode
I'm actually mostly surprised I didn't know there was a card that cheaply put a doublestrike counter on a creature.
edgy marsh
It's a fantastic card
misty geyser
Okay I’ve made some adds, thoughts on this?
Another route I’ve been thinking of is running early board wipes so I can set up, wait for the moment, pop a board wipe to hurt the card advantage of my opponents and THEN drop Aragorn
edgy marsh
I don't really understand all the Planeswalkers but otherwise I like the deck
Chandra in particular baffles me
misty geyser
Good finisher
edgy marsh
Overall I like the list though
misty geyser
Planeswalkers are especially good in decks like this since they tend to have very flexible modes and win the game if it goes long
edgy marsh
I just think having a damage doubling creature could do the same thing
Elspeth and wandering are both solid, the Comet seems alright
misty geyser
@dense wadi I would think the obvious answer for this would be Simic for the partnered volo
misty geyser
All good, just figured I'd move it
dense wadi
I think the most broadly applicable would be [[master chef ]]
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misty geyser
I have seen an izzet version of the deck with [[popular entertainer]] that was really cool
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misty geyser
Oooooh, I could do Azorius with [[noble heritage]]
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misty geyser
Or even [[Far traveler]]
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misty geyser
Make it a flicker-y focused deck
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Legendary Enchantment — Background
Commander creatures you own have ", Sacrifice another creature or an artifact: This creature deals 1 damage to any target."
Your harsh upbringing on the streets of the city left you crafty, resilient, and wise beyond your years.
dense wadi
And focus on inclusions that benefit from the sac
If I were doing it myself tho I think I’d do chef cuz the vibe of a naturalist on expedition is strongest in simic I think
frail flare
Could do [[acolyte of bahamut]] with changelings?
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Legendary Enchantment — Background
Commander creatures you own have "The first Dragon spell you cast each turn costs 
less to cast."
You were on a wayward path until Bahamut showed you that power and kindness can unite beneath the same banner.
frail flare
Partner volo is written so you can keep getting new types
misty geyser
Cool idea
frail flare
My Pride of Hull clade runs partner Volo in the 99
He's sort of a hidden commander with everything else having 3+ types
[[The foretold soldier]] is 3 entries, etc.
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Creature — Alien Zombie Soldier
This creature must be blocked if able.
This creature can't be blocked by more than one creature.
Whenever this creature deals damage, exile it face down. It becomes foretold.
Foretell 
(During your turn, you may pay and exile this card from your hand face down. Cast it on a later turn for its foretell cost.)
6/6
frail flare
Changelings, you just keep writing new things down
But aida's right that of the green backgrounds chef is the most applicable otherwise.
edgy marsh
Chef seems like it would spiral quickly out of control
misty geyser
@ornate heron here’s what I threw together for Bant just now
frail flare
Random lore thing, several of the Doctors were vegetarian
misty geyser
It works out then!
frail flare
6-8 and 12 all were. 3 and 11 talked about it iirc.
I don't remember if it came up before 3
misty geyser
I was gonna say, idk if the second was
frail flare
Looked it up. Patrick Troughton himself leaned vegetarian in terms of diet based on an in-memorium piece after he died in 1987
ornate heron
<@689873175583916086> here’s what I threw together for Bant just now
https://mo...
I would look at legion loyalty, [[protector of the wastes]] and [[salvation colossus]]
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Creature — Dragon
Flying
When this creature enters or becomes monstrous, exile up to two target artifacts and/or enchantments controlled by different players.
: Monstrosity 3. (If this creature isn't monstrous, put three +1/+1 counters on it and it becomes monstrous.)
5/5
Artifact Creature — Construct
Flying, vigilance, trample
Whenever you attack, other creatures you control get +2/+2 and gain indestructible until end of turn.
Unearth—Pay eight 
. (Pay eight energy counters: Return this card from your graveyard to the battlefield. It gains haste. Exile it at the beginning of the next end step or if it would leave the battlefield. Unearth only as a sorcery.)
9/9
misty geyser
I would look at legion loyalty, [[protector of the wastes]] and [[salvation colo...
I think I have legion loyalty in there already but those are also good shouts
I was considering salvation colossus
ornate heron
No legion loyalty currently
misty geyser
Rip, it was for a while
ornate heron
But yeah those are all the ones I used in my build that are in white
Salvation unfortunately got cut as its too hard to fit him
But was good
misty geyser
I thought solitary confinement was a particularly clever include
With second doc out, I’ll always have a card to draw and discard. If all else fails it’s a pseudo angel’s grace
ornate heron
I thought solitary confinement was a particularly clever include
Yeah I could see it doing pretty well
Protector of the wastes though has been doing work for me as of late, can't remember a situation that I wasn't happy to see it
misty geyser
It definitely went in
ornate heron
And [[hidden hideout]] has turned out to be quite the unit
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Land
This land enters tapped.
: Add one mana of any color in your commander's color identity.
, : Target creature you control with a counter on it gains lifelink until end of turn.
Between ninjas, mutants, and alien bases, the subterranean housing market is shockingly competitive.
misty geyser
What should I take out for salvation colossus?
ornate heron
Let me check
Herald of eternal dawn honestly hasn't impressed me, could be worth cutting
Also holy soul of emancipation is an absolute house to get with these colors
misty geyser
That’s what I’m sayinnnnn
I included the Eternal Wanderer because tbh I have a ton of etb trigger removal
ornate heron
Fair
misty geyser
Yeah I was on the fence about herald
I like being more aggressive anyway so that is prolly the move
ornate heron
Elspeth also maybe?
Didn't notice that many token creation pieces, and her other ticks are fine but eh
misty geyser
Refresh, she’s out of the deck already
ornate heron
Ah
misty geyser
I took out herald
What’s really funny is that [[page, loose leaf]] enables colorless veggies
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Legendary Artifact Creature — Construct
: Add 
.
Grandeur — Discard another card named Page, Loose Leaf: Reveal cards from the top of your library until you reveal an instant or sorcery card. Put that card into your hand and the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order.
0/2
misty geyser
Dunno if you even have enough ramp to make it work but. Still really funny
ornate heron
Oh yeah I knew about this one
ornate heron
Dunno if you even have enough ramp to make it work but. Still really funny
You definitely do
misty geyser
Really
ornate heron
Colorless mana rocks are great
ornate heron
Well I mean 4 mana rocks
Even some stuff like worn power stone though
misty geyser
Yeahh
ornate heron
Also lots of land options in colorless
misty geyser
I count 14
Which honestly, more than I thought there would be
Then at 5 mana you get a lot of real insane stuff
But I didn’t count those
Lots of mana doublers and stuff
ornate heron
I count 14
You also get the powerstone, everflowing chalice, and sol ring?
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Artifact Creature — Construct
: Reveal any number of artifact cards in your hand. Add for each card revealed this way.
"At this rate I fully expect to be replaced by a clockwork golem by year's end." —Barrin
1/2
misty geyser
Both assuming you either have another waste to drop or you have at least one artifact in hand (which, in colorless, is not hard)
ornate heron
What’s really funny is that [[page, loose leaf]] enables colorless veggies
Main issue I take with the deck is your options at 6-7 mana are just... unimpressive
misty geyser
Yeah, that’s what I was thinking of
ornate heron
Like yes it allows it, but I never mention it because eh
You get eldrazi, but none of them get impressive until 9+ mana which is out of the decks normal range without especially high counts of ramp
ornate heron
I also technically counted [[extraplanar lens]] and [[metalworker]]
I count 12 reliable ones without these, and 14 with the new one in strixhaven as well as the one that adds 3 mana if you have at least 3 lands with the same name
None being creatures, all just artifacts
misty geyser
Yeah
ornate heron
Which is not bad at all
ornate heron
misty geyser
Oh neat
ornate heron
Mana can be spent on whatever but benefits you from x spells
misty geyser
That’s really good
ornate heron
That’s really good
Honestly an understatement lol
frail flare
It depends on the commander (just based on x spells)
ornate heron
Draw and lifegain for free from an already reasonably efficient mana rock
frail flare
It's a delayed trigger too
misty geyser
Good thing with veggie decks (and probably with the colorless one in particular) is that they play really nice with x spells
ornate heron
Good thing with veggie decks (and probably with the colorless one in particular)...
Well...
Sometimes
Cascade and discover theme doesn't
misty geyser
Yeah, I could see that being a problem. But I will also never be upset with seeing Maelstrom wanderer cascade into Wan Shi Tong so
misty geyser
I wanna build a simic deck that doesn’t make people go “yup that’s a simic deck”
misty geyser
…[[thirteenth doctor]] [[adric mathematical genius]] is a combo in the command zone with one more card
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Legendary Creature — Bear Druid
Spells you cast from your graveyard or from exile cost less to cast.
Plotting cards from your hand costs less.
"Learning stops only when you close your mind off to wonder."
2/3
Legendary Creature — Human Artificer
, : Copy target activated or triggered ability you control. You may choose new targets for the copy.
Ultimate Sacrifice — , Sacrifice Adric: Counter target activated or triggered ability.
Doctor's companion (You can have two commanders if the other is the Doctor.)
1/1
misty geyser
That’s really funny
misty geyser
Put a counter on adric and on a creature that taps for 4+ mana, copy the ability, make the mana and continue
Infinite mana
frail flare
Yes, that's just textbook "that's so simic" though
misty geyser
Idk. Either way I was thinking edric but that’s also very much a simic deck because of how iconic edric is
frail flare
Yeah, he is
misty geyser
I wish Aloy wasn’t so narrow
She was a really cool idea
Hm. I know this is the opposite of what I said but [[galadriel of lothlorien]] sounds cool
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frail flare
Galadriel is almost pure landfall
misty geyser
Oh yeah, Pir and Toothy superfriends was something I wanted to look at
misty geyser
Galadriel is almost pure landfall
Ech. I was picturing control of some kind with the insane card selection involved with scrying constantly but that makes sense
Oh! Yeah! Jolrael too
What a funny commander
Hmmmm I have things to consider
frail flare
There's always [[tawnos the toymaker]]
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frail flare
There's [[madame vastra]] without Jenny
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hasty portal
[[Cirdan the Shipwright]] chaos grouphug deck, [[Tam, Mindful First-Year]] as some kind of cool two color Domain deck or maybe take it an unexpected route like Equipment, and [[Vannifar, Evolved Enigma]] colorless maters.
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Legendary Creature — Gorgon Wizard
Each other creature you control has hexproof from each of its colors.
: Target creature you control becomes all colors until end of turn.
"What are the odds? And what would you like them to be?"
2/2
Legendary Creature — Elf Ooze Wizard
At the beginning of combat on your turn, choose one —
• Cloak a card from your hand. (Put it onto the battlefield face down as a 2/2 creature with ward . Turn it face up any time for its mana cost if it's a creature card.)
• Put a +1/+1 counter on each colorless creature you control.
3/4
hasty portal
I feel like they would have the most potential for a Un-Simic like Simic deck.
misty geyser
You know what
I think I’m gonna say fuck it and make mono red RDW
Subira needs a deck
frail flare
Glad you're finally going back to working on her
misty geyser
Idk what I should or shouldn’t do tbh
I’m gonna accept that it’ll be significantly lower powered
I’m thinking it needs some curve lowering
frail flare
There was a neat Subira list on Maldhound in the first deck competition. Let me see if I can find it
misty geyser
I’m also gonna take out Jeska’s Will and make the deck b2
Also effects like double strike and damage doublers/adders will be huge for dealing extra damage
And I need to be okay with lowering the curve significantly to make her tap ability way more powerful
frail flare
misty geyser
@frank condor and @dense wadi I know y’all are good resident mono red players as well, any advice?
Oooh yeah I need to update this deck. Firebending is extremely good here
frail flare
It was the competition for "coolest deck"
I don't know how far it got, but it seemed both like a really cool deck and is one the person has that wasn't just made for the competition
Obviously would need to be adjusted down to be B2 but I knew it was just going to be one that's a list that's more up to date
dense wadi
Subira needs a deck
Are we looking at this deck?
misty geyser
Yeah
One sec
Firebending is so huge for this deck though I will say
I’m not sure goblin welder is necessary
frail flare
So many updates ugh
Why I thought an up-to-date list would be helpful 😅
misty geyser
It definitely is!
Firebreathing also seems to be a really good way to kill here
And firebending kinda guarantees that whatever is attacking gets through because it makes its own mana
I wonder if [[cori steelcutter]] could be good
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Artifact — Equipment
Equipped creature gets +1/+1 and has trample and haste.
Flurry — Whenever you cast your second spell each turn, create a 1/1 white Monk creature token with prowess. You may attach this Equipment to it. (Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, the token gets +1/+1 until end of turn.)
Equip
misty geyser
Cool but rude also seems good
frail flare
Yep
misty geyser
I worry about prowess though - feels like a good way to nonbo myself out of making them unblockable
I love Generous Plunderer
Is [[wingnut]] too cute?
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misty geyser
It still works with firebending because it’s a trigger
And i can make my stuff unblockable beforehand
frail flare
Subira's first ruling
If the target creature's power is greater than 2 as the first activated ability tries to resolve, the ability doesn't resolve. However, if instead the creature's power is raised above 2 after the ability resolves, it still can't be blocked that turn.
It's just when you use it
misty geyser
Right
I’m just saying that I can firebend and activate abilities before the attack trigger resolves
misty geyser
[[subira tulzidi]]
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Legendary Creature — Human Shaman
Haste
: Another target creature with power 2 or less can't be blocked this turn.
, , Discard your hand: Until end of turn, whenever a creature you control with power 2 or less deals combat damage to a player, draw a card.
2/3
misty geyser
ohhhhhhh
Damn
You right
I think I still think [[Avatar Roku]] is worth it though. Firebending 6 is good, pair that with a +6 damage or activating subira without having to swing roku himself it’s really potent
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Enchantment — Saga
(As this Saga enters and after your draw step, add a lore counter.)
I — Exile the top three cards of your library. Until the end of your next turn, you may play those cards.
II — Add one mana of any color.
III — Exile this Saga, then return it to the battlefield transformed under your control.
Avatar Roku
Legendary Creature — Avatar
Firebending 4 (Whenever this creature attacks, add . This mana lasts until end of combat.)
: Create a 4/4 red Dragon creature token with flying and firebending 4.
"You must be decisive."
4/4
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Legendary Creature — Human Avatar
Whenever a player attacks, add six . Until end of combat, you don't lose this mana as steps end.
: Target creature gets +3/+0 until end of turn.
"Make sense of our past, Aang, and you will bring peace, and restore balance to the world."
6/6
frank condor
<@139925479481147394> and <@282385029387124736> I know y’all are good resident m...
Busy day at work, ill be happy to look tonight!
dense wadi
Yeah I hate to tell someone to hold off on wing nut but unless all your stuff is 1 power it’s a nonbo
molten geode
i am big on bushwhackers though 
misty geyser
Yeah I hate to tell someone to hold off on wing nut but unless all your stuff is...
I didn’t remember Subira was worded that way for the draw unfortunately
misty geyser
i am big on bushwhackers though <:mirpray:955846868443746344>
What is that
Like [[goblin bushwacker]]?
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Creature — Goblin Warrior
Kicker (You may pay an additional as you cast this spell.)
When this creature enters, if it was kicked, creatures you control get +1/+0 and gain haste until end of turn.
1/1
misty geyser
I think it’s okay, but like. Issue being I feel like the buffs need to be targeted or optional so I don’t end up nonboing myself out of doing stuff
molten geode
yeah, bushwhackers are Goblin Bushwhacker/Reckless Bushwhacker/etc.
frail flare
I think it was [[halana, kessig]] and [[reyhan]]
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Legendary Creature — Human Archer Ranger
Reach
Whenever another creature you control enters, you may pay . When you do, that creature deals damage equal to its power to target creature.
Partner (You can have two commanders if both have partner.)
3/4
frail flare
Sorry Alena
hushed tapir
[[alena kessig]]
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Legendary Creature — Human Scout
First strike
: Add an amount of equal to the greatest power among creatures you control that entered this turn.
Partner (You can have two commanders if both have partner.)
"Halana and I have a bond that'll never be broken."
4/3
hushed tapir
I've always thought alena was neat
seeing how red does mana dorks as opposed to green is cool
frail flare
She works on reanimated targets
hushed tapir
yeah
sick locust
Or sneak attack cheats
misty geyser
I have seen [[Alena kessig]]//[[Gilanra]] before and it was disgusting
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Legendary Creature — Human Scout
First strike
: Add an amount of equal to the greatest power among creatures you control that entered this turn.
Partner (You can have two commanders if both have partner.)
"Halana and I have a bond that'll never be broken."
4/3
Legendary Creature — Elf Druid
: Add . When you spend this mana to cast a spell with mana value 6 or greater, draw a card.
Partner (You can have two commanders if both have partner.)
"Something mighty stirs in the forest. Can't you feel it?"
1/2
hushed tapir
I have seen [[Alena kessig]]//[[Gilanra]] before and it was disgusting
ohohoho 😈 that sounds fantastic
talk about BIG r/g lol
misty geyser
It even curves gilanra into alena
Like t1 dork -> gilanra -> Alena means, like, 7 mana t4
Drop a 5 mana 6/6 or something, then some 6 drop
Idk there’s shenanigans to be had
hushed tapir
It starts at 6mv
lmaooo 10/10
open spindle
I have seen [[Alena kessig]]//[[Gilanra]] before and it was disgusting
My roommate has them as commanders for a deck
It’s pretty strong
misty geyser
Ooooookay
So
I have taken Jund apart
I have a LOT of thoughts about both Jund and another similar idea I've been wanting to execute for a while
I think Jund Midrange, as a concept, sits on a knife's edge of being relevant or not within a pod
Midrange generally works best when you're both playing fair
Because it plays fair better than anything else, and eats anything alive that tries to
The issue is, in commander, playing unfair is, like, the whole point
SO
If I want it to work more consistently then I either need to lean harder into either control OR into stompy
And call it midrange
Alternatively, I wanna say fuck it and move on to another deck archetype I've been wanting to port to commander
It's quite similar, but I feel like can much more easily be ported to commander: The Rock
https://moxfield.com/decks/pKYscVk_QESgTnGWSJQfzg
https://moxfield.com/decks/14PsJmT7DEG4zNk0g5Fpng
Here's two old attempts at it, one of them was more B2 focused since it was wanting to use all the cool reassembling skeleton effects
BUUUUUUUUT
One thing is, I might honestly change it up some and make it use the reassembling skeletons as engine pieces for things like recovering from board wipes and [[attrition]]
grand hingeBOT
Enchantment
, Sacrifice a creature: Destroy target nonblack creature.
"I will trade life for life with the insurgents. Our resources, unlike theirs, are limitless." —Davvol, Evincar of Rath
sick locust
Okay
misty geyser
I think I basically need to turn it into a Jund control list