I value flyers and reach enough that in decks without natural access via the CZ I try to make sure I have 3 or so just for emergencies and stopping easy flying combat triggers
#General deckbuilding Q&A and Short Discussion
graceful knot
In terms of cards that specifically affect them? None to 0 outside of specific instances it makes absolute sense
autumn sleet
I wanted to make a Maralen Fae and Elf deck with Morcant as one of the 99 legendaries. Does this combo work?
Or do these two not synergize at all?
blazing canyon
https://moxfield.com/decks/o4u8uOI7L0yptait34fTkQ
Looking forward to play something like this, any big flaws in the deck? i'm trying to keep it a budget version of this deck i found on youtube some days ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdcvshkXMI0
kindred trench
Hello, I've built a modular deck that is supposed to go wide with a bunch of +1/+1s but I think I miss something in this deck because the execution is not as consistent as I would like(never played with it). Would it be alright to post the deck here for feedback or to post it somewhere else in the Discord?
gentle stump
Both work
kindred trench
Oki thanks ^^
kindred apex
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but, in a deck with more than one color in its color identity, how do you get colored mana of the color you need when you need it? It seems too inconsistent to just hope you draw the right basic lands for what you have in hand so it has to not be that
abstract frigate
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but, in a deck with more than one color in i...
There are lands, artifacts, and creatures that get you more mana, even mana more than one color! Most common are dual-colored lands, but there are also Tri-colored lands, and there are lands that get you mana of any color. Lots of them will come in play tapped, so it's slow, but it'll get you the colors you need. If they come in untapped, they'll usually come at a cost, like checking if you have basic lands in play, or costing you 2 life to be untapped, or just costing you 1 life anytime you want a certain color. There are dual lands that come in untapped without a clause, but they're expensive as fuck >.>'
There's also lots of cards that basically 'convert' one mana into one colored mana
Figuring out your lands is a big part of building a deck! 1 or 2 color decks aren't too bad, but 3+ is where you really need to consider how and when you'll get your mana
5 colored decks will NEED you to plan around mana as a main strategy for the deck to even function
There's lots of videos on this stuff, I'd look some up. Just look for vids on lands in general, or look into phrases like mana fixing or color fixing
kindred apex
5 colored decks will NEED you to plan around mana as a main strategy for the dec...
Yeah I noticed that when I made the mistake of looking at Terra, Magical Adept as my first commander. Thank you for the in-depth reply
abstract frigate
Yeah I noticed that when I made the mistake of looking at Terra, Magical Adept a...
Oh, yee, that's rough. For beginners, people generally recommend sticking to 2 colors until you figure things out. I think 3 colors is fine too, but you have to do some research to find what kinda lands there are out there
If you want a 5 colored deck, I'd try to find a deck list out there, or maybe even a deck with a guide >.>
remote mirage
Looking for some quick feedback on the list and potentially some cuts to get it back to 100 cards. Any advice/suggestions are welcome and greatly appreciated! https://moxfield.com/decks/gtw-zOw3KUWT1N21Gxx-Vg
upper basin
Looking for some quick feedback on the list and potentially some cuts to get it ...
You can make a post in #1020353936592470147 for more help but personally I’d cut [[Hopeful Initiate]]
hollow latchBOT
Creature — Human Warlock
Training (Whenever this creature attacks with another creature with greater power, put a +1/+1 counter on this creature.)
, Remove two +1/+1 counters from among creatures you control: Destroy target artifact or enchantment.
1/2
remote mirage
You can make a post in <#1020353936592470147> for more help but personally I’d c...
Thank you! I think I agree with that cut, as it does seem like a nice card, but underwhelming in comparison to some other things. I have also made a post!
kindred trench
https://archidekt.com/decks/18305621/modular_esper_
Heya 🙂 , I've built a modular esper commander with Urza in the forefront. The point of the deck is to sacrifice and return modular creatures, double the amount of +1/+1 counters on my board and to swing with large artifact creatures. However I feel this deck is not consistent enough and something isn't working. Like it's pure luck if I win(I only playtested this deck). I would like some feedback on it if it's possible thanks :3
vital heart
at a glance i feel like you're packing more payoffs than actual modular creatures which might be it
plus your ramp package is pretty weak for a deck that peaks at mana value 4
cards like yawg, the loch mare or the role model read to me like you got a bit lost in the sauce and tried to expand the counters subtheme at the cost of the artifact plan which should be your main focus
kindred trench
Maybe so, I'll try to add more ramp. Yawg is more of a sac outlet and draw engine but maybe there's something I can change
gentle stump
Maybe so, I'll try to add more ramp. Yawg is more of a sac outlet and draw engin...
I like the deck, lots of nice card choices.
I don't know about adding more ramp to be honest. The modular creatures are mostly very low costed.
Modular is fun, but the cards are mostly fairly weak on their own. (Iron Apprentice is secretly also a modular creature. Though perhaps it is not strong enough for the deck.) They might need a bit of support of strong cards that grow your board more explosively. Perhaps something like [[Hangarback Walker]] or [[Threefold Thunderhulk]] to allow you to go wide, (which grows Urza's Tokens as well) and perhaps [[Illustrious Wanderglyph]] or [[Salvation Engine]] to boost the team. Perhaps even the other Urza (Prince of Kroog).
Crystalline Crawler and O'aka, Traveling Merchant seem like they might also fit.
From playtesting adding two lands also seems good.
For cards to take out:
The role model looks a bit lost indeed. Aetheric Amplifier seems a bit too mana intensive. You don't have many blue cards to pitch to Force of Negation and Surgical Suite/Hospital Room seems like mostly a clunky limited reanimate. For Drivnod to be good, there have to be a lot of things going right already, perhaps I'd just stick to Teysa for that effect. Terisiare's Devastation seems like it may well wipe your entire board as well, which would leave you with nothing to put the counters on. Junk Diver and Myr Retriever are cool fits, but do seem to play a bit clunky sometimes. Faller's Faithful is really cute in the deck. Sorcery speed removal is a bit jank though, and for card draw, 3 mana might just be a bit much.
Your mana base is quite evenly split, this can make double blue and double black on some of your spells a little bit of a challenge sometimes. You might consider replacing some colorless lands with a few cards that can fix your mana.
hollow latchBOT
Artifact Creature — Construct
This creature enters with X +1/+1 counters on it.
When this creature dies, create a 1/1 colorless Thopter artifact creature token with flying for each +1/+1 counter on this creature.
, 
: Put a +1/+1 counter on this creature.
0/0
Artifact Creature — Gnome
This creature enters with three +1/+1 counters on it.
Whenever this creature enters or attacks, create a number of 1/1 colorless Gnome artifact creature tokens equal to its power.
, Sacrifice another artifact: Put a +1/+1 counter on this creature.
0/0
willow jacinth
https://moxfield.com/decks/YNNxXlVTrk2v5aM3dgHjFQ
when i finally do get my [[great henge]] what should i swap out for it? also debating if i want to swap something(prob gruul signet) for [[talisman of impulse]] to have a more flexible rock. and im really wondering if i want to toss in my [[chronicle of victory]] that i got from prerelease maybe swapping out [[rage reflection]] for it (though shouldnt the doublestrike trigger tovolar card draw twice?)
hollow latchBOT
Legendary Artifact
This spell costs 
less to cast, where X is the greatest power among creatures you control.
: Add 
. You gain 2 life.
Whenever a nontoken creature you control enters, put a +1/+1 counter on it and draw a card.
Artifact
: Add 
.
: Add 
or . This artifact deals 1 damage to you.
willow jacinth
i think the first one i'd cut for something else would be [[cindervines]] but having the option to sac it to take out a pesky artifact or enchantment and do dmg is nice
hollow latchBOT
Enchantment
Whenever an opponent casts a noncreature spell, this enchantment deals 1 damage to that player.
, Sacrifice this enchantment: Destroy target artifact or enchantment. This enchantment deals 2 damage to that permanent's controller.
willow jacinth
i think the next one i'd consider to remove would be [[ram through]], but that would be one of my few targeted removal spells
hollow latchBOT
willow jacinth
im also debating throwing in [[mirrormind crown]] since i have a fair bit of wolf token creation, but again i dont know what i would swap out for it
hollow latchBOT
Artifact — Equipment
As long as this Equipment is attached to a creature, the first time you would create one or more tokens each turn, you may instead create that many tokens that are copies of equipped creature.
Equip
Forged in Velis Vel, swiped by a clever merrow, and sold to a curious kithkin.
willow jacinth
not to mention im not really running much of the other kindred artifact staples :/
worldly horizon
Anyone know of a good No-Creatures Commander? I was going to focus on Artifacts but i'd take any non-Creature focus Commander
gentle stump
Anyone know of a good No-Creatures Commander? I was going to focus on Artifacts ...
[[Daretti, Scrap Savant]] and [[Codie, Vociferous Codex]] come to mind. There are more planeswalkers that can be used as commanders.
hollow latchBOT
Legendary Artifact Creature — Construct
You can't cast permanent spells.
, : Add 
. When you next cast a spell this turn, exile cards from the top of your library until you exile an instant or sorcery card with lesser mana value. Until end of turn, you may cast that card without paying its mana cost. Put each other card exiled this way on the bottom of your library in a random order.
1/4
gentle stump
Would this deck do okay in B2?
I think so yes. There are many weak cards only there for the theme, but the commander is very strong. And so are some of the angels. I do think you may want to add some card draw so the deck plays a bit smoother. Also, some more instant speed interaction can make the game a bit more dynamic for you to play.
worldly horizon
[[Daretti, Scrap Savant]] and [[Codie, Vociferous Codex]] come to mind. There ar...
I'll look into Planeswalkers, but I really dont see the appeal of them. Seems way too easy to get rid of since you can directly attack them. Plus, ive never seen then Ult trigger.
And Codie sounds horrible to play, ngl. 5c and no permanents sounds painful
gentle stump
I'll look into Planeswalkers, but I really dont see the appeal of them. Seems wa...
Then most likely, you will at least have one creature, your commander.
gentle stump
Thats normal
It is, I was just thinking you were looking for abnormal.
worldly horizon
Im looking for a commander that could work with 0 creatures in the 99
So yea its kinda abnormal, but also not really
gentle stump
Would winning with creature tokens be good or bad?
worldly horizon
If the commander cant be a creature that'll restrict me to a stupid degree. Its a challenge sure but its not a fun one.
worldly horizon
Would winning with creature tokens be good or bad?
I figured creature tokens were the only ways to get more creatures
Tokens arent part of the 99
upper basin
Im looking for a commander that could work with 0 creatures in the 99
I doubt it’s good but I’ve tried before
upper basin
To be clear I haven’t made it in paper
worldly horizon
Not gonna copy it 1:1 though, 3 instants and zero sorceries is insane to me
upper basin
And there’s been new cards since I made it
Oh yeah I absolutely did not make a good deck lol
worldly horizon
Ah I dont play paper anyways, Im purely TTS. Paper is too expensive
upper basin
Oh I proxy lol
worldly horizon
Even proxy was too expensive imo
upper basin
That’s fair
gentle stump
So, if your only creature is your commander, it is fairly likely that all the removal is aimed at the commander. This would make it better if the commander doesn't need to stick around, or is very hard to deal with.
worldly horizon
So, if your only creature is your commander, it is fairly likely that all the re...
I hate that my mind immediately went to 'oh Eminence'
upper basin
That’s means you’re a good person if you went “wait no” to it
worldly horizon
Though I just checked, none of them would actually work in the first place
All 5 are kindred, and I have 0 creatures lol
gentle stump
Alternatively, it could be a very cheap commander, so you can recast it easily, making it an unattractive target. Say [[Lady Octopus, Inspired Inventor]]
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Legendary Creature — Human Scientist Villain
Whenever you draw your first or second card each turn, put an ingenuity counter on Lady Octopus.
: You may cast an artifact spell from your hand with mana value less than or equal to the number of ingenuity counters on Lady Octopus without paying its mana cost.
0/2
upper basin
There’s a really good artifact deck that can be made with them
worldly horizon
Interesting... really slow, but interesting
gentle stump
[[Edgar, King of Figaro]] is the other way around (disregard the coinflipping), you just play him late to refuel and hope he dies so you can do it again.
hollow latchBOT
gentle stump
Interesting... really slow, but interesting
[[Jhoira, Ageless Innovator]] plays along the same lines, but gives access to another color.
hollow latchBOT
Legendary Creature — Human Artificer
: Put two ingenuity counters on Jhoira, then you may put an artifact card with mana value X or less from your hand onto the battlefield, where X is the number of ingenuity counters on Jhoira.
2/3
worldly horizon
I need to sleep, but ill look into these guys when I wake up.
And the ingenuity counter too, need to look into that lol
gentle stump
I need to sleep, but ill look into these guys when I wake up.
And the ingenuity...
[[Narset, Enlightened Master]] could stick around for a bit through hexproof and likes your deck filled with noncreatures. Though this card has a reputation, so be aware of that.
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graceful storm
I think so yes. There are many weak cards only there for the theme, but the comm...
Any good draw cards you would suggest?
graceful knot
Anyone know of a good No-Creatures Commander? I was going to focus on Artifacts ...
I think its super doable with [[ali brigadier]]
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Legendary Creature — Human Soldier
Whenever you cast a historic spell, create a 1/1 white Soldier creature token. (Artifacts, legendaries, and Sagas are historic.)
Whenever Alistair attacks, you may pay 
. If you do, creatures you control get +X/+X until end of turn, where X is the number of historic permanents you control.
3/3
graceful knot
Just, artifacts/planeswalkers/sagas/legendary extra stuff
worldly horizon
im guessing the wincon is animating the artifacts
or I guess having a bunch of strong Soldiers
graceful knot
The wincon is right there on alistair
But you can build your own with anything really
Its very versatile
I have a version of Alistair im working on thats all the job select/living weapon/for mirrodin options that are decent
Its got token and modified synergies and some other bits
Historic in general is very easy to build around
tired badger
So I've been working on my [[ Jetmir, Nexus of Revels ]] deck since snc came out, and I was questioning a few of my enchantments particularly
Bracket 3 meant to generate around 9-15 tokens, cast jetmir and win with board wipe and creature protection
- [[ Rabble Rousing ]] I think this one might be slower than I thought, since it relies on me attacking without winning on that attack
- [[ Cabaretti Ascendancy ]] think it's a decent card but I wonder if I could find a better effect that's not an enchantment
- [[ Crash the Party ]] I think maybe I should go for another mass token generator, of which I already have 9
tired badger
Oh, and [[ Toski, bearer of secrets ]]
hollow latchBOT
tired badger
Oh, and would token doublers be worth investing in or would that boost my threat level too much?
queen ivy
So I've been working on my [[ Jetmir, Nexus of Revels ]] deck since snc came out...
Are you meaning to treat jetmir exclusively as a craterhoof and winning as soon as he comes down? If so, I agree with all points as cuts. I would add more token generators, but imo I’m more of a token engine enjoyer like some kind of planeswalker that makes a blocker each turn
Or [[the eternal wanderer]]
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queen ivy
Oh, and would token doublers be worth investing in or would that boost my threat...
They’re good
Not my favorite but good
Like the new elspeth slaps
tired badger
Are you meaning to treat jetmir exclusively as a craterhoof and winning as soon ...
I would say I use him whenever I want damage done
tired badger
Like the new elspeth slaps
I do have one of the new elspeth, I just kinda wanna share the spot with my new myrel soldier tribal
gentle stump
Any good draw cards you would suggest?
Looking at the deck again, you've already got most of the draw that first came to mind.
For more card draw options, you could look at using cards like Scroll of Avacyn or the Warhammer version of Mind Stone alongside a Serra Paragon.
Sadly, Angelheart Vial is terrible, but it is very on theme.
Sigarda's Splendor is another angel themed card draw card, but does require you to be fairly heavy on the lifegain.
Convalescent Care is, sadly, way too situational.
blazing canyon
can i place this card on an abigale deck?
gentle stump
Extus doesn't fit the coloridentity restriction of Abigale.
blazing canyon
aye
i was wondering if the backside of the card could be ignored and just play the front
but guess not
gentle stump
Nope, on the bright side, you can add red cards to your Extus, Oriq Overlord deck ^^
blazing canyon
i see
i wasnt planning to change the commander on my deck :x but could see it for a future deck i could do
since i like giving 2nd oportunities to graveyard stuff
is there anything this deck might be lacking? i want it to be a tier 2 deck
https://moxfield.com/decks/dc9XORBjeEqpBX-z1vBviw
was gonna fill the remaining with basic lands
but idk about the rest of the deck, it feels like it would lack something
gentle stump
Oh, I just love what you did with the enter/leaves cards.
gentle stump
but idk about the rest of the deck, it feels like it would lack something
It seems to lack a bit of card draw.
blazing canyon
Oh, I just love what you did with the enter/leaves cards.
yeah, seems fun, i was considering to add this combo for the possibility of triggering multiple times a turn for instant win if not interrupted in the process
plus having the wall as protection to just spam all my attacks while they have lifelink
blazing canyon
It seems to lack a bit of card draw.
100%, im just too new to really know how to fix the issue on my own 🙁
gentle stump
Perhaps use the fact that you run a lot of blink cards to abuse creatures that draw cards when they enter.
blazing canyon
Perhaps use the fact that you run a lot of blink cards to abuse creatures that d...
can look into that actually yeah
gentle stump
[[Enduring Innocence]] would give you value whenever you blink your commander.
hollow latchBOT
blazing canyon
damnn that surely helps
gentle stump
plus having the wall as protection to just spam all my attacks while they have l...
The wall is 8 mana though, so I guess that's a bit clunky for a deck that doesn't really focus hard on ramping.
blazing canyon
true
is this enough lands?
ive added enduring already to the deck
im 99/100 cards atm
gentle stump
Yeah, I think that works
blazing canyon
im afraid that board wipes might punish my playstyle too hard tho
thats why i was so interested on a card that helped me return stuff from graveyard
gentle stump
There are more cards like Enduring Innocence - Welcoming Vampire/Tocasia's Welcome , to name a few. You could also consider trying to run cards that can blink cards multiple times. [[Galepowder Mage]] for example.
Against boardwipes, well, your mass blink should work against that. Eerie Interlude is already in, Ghostway could be another version of that.
hollow latchBOT
blazing canyon
will probably get all those
and just mix and match until i'm comfortable with a specific set up
thanks!
gusty depot
Are there any WB cards that reduce cost of activated abilities?
Specifically looking at clues for my deck
I hate paying 2 mana to draw a card
gentle stump
Well, there are several ways to do that.
But not by reducing costs. Just by sacrificing them to another effect.
[[Pitiless Carnage]] for example
hollow latchBOT
Sorcery
Sacrifice any number of permanents you control, then draw that many cards.
Plot (You may pay and exile this card from your hand. Cast it as a sorcery on a later turn without paying its mana cost. Plot only as a sorcery.)
Akul saw his Hellspur followers as little more than ammunition to be expended.
ripe steeple
hey, do you think its the real turtle typal we was waiting for ?
[[mikey-&-don-party-planners]]
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Legendary Creature — Mutant Ninja Turtle
Ward
You may look at the top card of your library any time.
You may play lands and cast Mutant, Ninja, or Turtle spells from the top of your library. If you cast a creature spell this way, that creature enters with an additional +1/+1 counter on it.
3/3
ripe steeple
color pie
and actual commander
(i know turtle wont be simic in the extension, i just care about "real" magic)
queen ivy
There’s a good few options for turtles with the new set
ripe steeple
There’s a good few options for turtles with the new set
do u have some examples except this one ?
queen ivy
One of the more “boring” options is [[heroes in a half shell]]
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ripe steeple
One of the more “boring” options is [[heroes in a half shell]]
i feel its like cosmic spider man and spider
its for the extension, not the typal yk
typal spider still play shelob
ripe steeple
okay i see, thanks
queen ivy
Archelos is a good option for sure
ripe steeple
Archelos is a good option for sure
he's a bit useless no ? making ur opponent land / creatures tap is a bit like
not impactful
queen ivy
Well, there’s synergies to ensure your turtles can swing
ripe steeple
and making ur stuff untapped is not useful for typal
queen ivy
Tap archelos at the end of your turn
Functions as a [[amulet of vigor]] to ramp better
hollow latchBOT
queen ivy
In terms of UW options there’s not a ton
ripe steeple
In terms of UW options there’s not a ton
UW ? why
queen ivy
Universes Within, and just because turtles haven’t gotten relevant typal commanders
Tmnt kinda gives turtles several commanders that either directly or tangentially care about turtles
ripe steeple
ok mb i thought UW was for azorius haha
vital heart
https://scryfall.com/card/tmt/157/mikey-&-don-party-planners
Yeah it says turtle in the oracle text but how many of those care about topdeck manipulation? Hull clade is still the better option tbh
ripe steeple
Yeah it says turtle in the oracle text but how many of those care about topdeck ...
i see, i had the idea to use the brainstorm / sensei wih hardened scales
maybe clade is better, i need to goldfish haha
queen ivy
Lets you cast turtles off the top, so it’s fine
rotund forge
I still really like [[archelos]] for turtles though it doesn't specifically SAY turtle
hollow latchBOT
rotund forge
Raph and Mikey feel like a card I want to cheat into play
Like, grab it with [[natural order]] or something like that
hollow latchBOT
rotund forge
If not that then you sort of need to play them like they're Etali?
Also there are 14 turtles in Gruul
high copper
Hey guys!
I have a bracket 3 tourney at my lgs and I'm not sure what cards to cut out for 3 gamechangers.
Any input welcome!
leaden tundra
Hey guys!
I have a bracket 3 tourney at my lgs and I'm not sure what cards to cu...
how serious is the tourney
rotund forge
Hey guys!
I have a bracket 3 tourney at my lgs and I'm not sure what cards to cu...
It looks like you already have 2 in there
kind basalt
willow jacinth
would [[rimefire torque]] be worthwhile running in zombies? since the intention is a lot of tokens, would be easy to stack charge counters
hollow latchBOT
Artifact
As this artifact enters, choose a creature type.
Whenever a permanent you control of the chosen type enters, put a charge counter on this artifact.
, Remove three charge counters from this artifact: When you next cast an instant or sorcery spell this turn, copy it. You may choose new targets for the copy.
willow jacinth
also thinking about some of the other changelings and spells from lorwyn, like [[mischievous sneakling]] for a flash zombie [[graveshifter]] for reanimator [[omni-changeling]] to duplicate any creature but have as a zombie [[unbury]] just to bring back more zombies from the graveyard, maybe even [[stalactite dagger]] to turn one of my few non-zombies into a zombie
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Creature — Shapeshifter
Changeling (This card is every creature type.)
Convoke (Your creatures can help cast this spell. Each creature you tap while casting this spell pays for or one mana of that creature's color.)
You may have this creature enter as a copy of any creature on the battlefield, except it has changeling.
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Artifact — Equipment
When this Equipment enters, create a 1/1 colorless Shapeshifter creature token with changeling. (It's every creature type.)
Equipped creature gets +1/+1 and is all creature types.
Equip (: Attach to target creature you control. Equip only as a sorcery.)
safe grove
I’m having such a hard time finding a win with this deck
I’ve been in gamestates where im drawing 2-3 cards a turn, a lot of lands in play. And I am still just drawing, passing because my “combo” is very specific
(Mirkwood/Vondam + Something that stacks my insects from gy on top)
But that combo doesn’t really even secure a win
It’s like burning the table for like 6-10
And making a bunch of tokens
I threw in triumph the horde bc there’s a Humans Lifegain deck that’s sometimes in my friend group
Like what if I just took out the insect kindred part
And just made it mill reanimator
solemn stratus
I haven't seen it a lot, but is there really any reason for [[toph-earthbending-master]] to not be included in a [[tidus-yunas-guardian]] deck?
graceful knot
I haven't seen it a lot, but is there really any reason for [[toph-earthbending-...
Price. Other than that, its pretty good so you may as well play it, but +1/+1 counter decks have a million options anyway
Also, +1 experience a turn may not be enough compared to other options
solemn stratus
Well, it wasn't just +1 experience. It's also an Earthbend with more +1/+1s
I was just wondering if I was missing something everyone else saw
abstract frigate
I was just wondering if I was missing something everyone else saw
I think it looks good, but you might want more ramp in the deck if you'll want more landfall triggers. The deck doesn't have too many proliferate sources, so you'll be extra reliant on Tidus to do that and 'ramp' with his card draw. It's a bit slower than it could be, but I think it'll work.
Also, as a tri-color deck, you might not have all colors needed to play Tidus on turn 3, so you might play him on turn 4. That'll push Toph back a bit too. It kinda depends on what other changes you make, I think. Also, your lands are still open to being bounced or sacrificed, so it's still risky
solemn stratus
Yeah, I've replaced much of the original deck so that I have more things like proliferate and more counter generation. I also have [[ezuri-claw-of-progress]], who will be another source of experience counters
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open dagger
I asked a simple question on reddit why are people so divisive in the comment section?
graceful storm
Because people are silly
open dagger
graceful storm
See that's such a wild take
I play vs some b2 decks with perfect mana bases
It's literally fine
willow jacinth
isn't [[bloodline bidding]] just straight up a better [[patriarch's bidding]]?
hollow latchBOT
Sorcery
Convoke (Your creatures can help cast this spell. Each creature you tap while casting this spell pays for or one mana of that creature's color.)
Choose a creature type. Return all creature cards of the chosen type from your graveyard to the battlefield.
willow jacinth
sure it costs a little more but then you have convoke to make it free, and its 1sided
leaden tundra
Its pretty much always better
grand coyote
I’m building a budget [[sorin of house]], should I make my mana rocks be 3 cmc so I don’t have to choose between the commander and a rock on turn 2? Or should I make them 2 cmc so I can pay for extort on turn 3?
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Legendary Creature — Human Noble
Lifelink
Extort (Whenever you cast a spell, you may pay 
. If you do, each opponent loses 1 life and you gain that much life.)
At the beginning of each of your postcombat main phases, if you gained 3 or more life this turn, exile Sorin, then return him to the battlefield transformed under his owner's control.
1/4
Sorin, Ravenous Neonate
Legendary Planeswalker — Sorin
Extort (Whenever you cast a spell, you may pay . If you do, each opponent loses 1 life and you gain that much life.)
+2: Create a Food token.
−1: Sorin deals damage equal to the amount of life you gained this turn to any target.
−6: Gain control of target creature. It becomes a Vampire in addition to its other types. Put a lifelink counter on it if you control a white permanent other than that creature or Sorin.
Loyalty: 3
ripe steeple
I’m building a budget [[sorin of house]], should I make my mana rocks be 3 cmc s...
I believe that 3 CMC mana rock are bad because
If you draw it turn 4+ its useless asf, if u draw arcane signet in late game it's fine it "cost" you 1 mana virtually
willow jacinth
Would [[innkeeper's talent]] be a worthwhile add to the blight curse precon? It doesnt specify what type of counters for lvl 2-3, so it can double -1/-1 counters while giving your blighted creatures ward
hollow latchBOT
Enchantment — Class
(Gain the next level as a sorcery to add its ability.)
At the beginning of combat on your turn, put a +1/+1 counter on target creature you control.
: Level 2
Permanents you control with counters on them have ward .
: Level 3
If you would put one or more counters on a permanent or player, put twice that many of each of those kinds of counters on that permanent or player instead.
graceful knot
Would [[innkeeper's talent]] be a worthwhile add to the blight curse precon? It ...
Bear in mind, your opponent's put the counters on for blight, so those won't double. Only the ones directly placed by you
hollow locust
Making a "Taxation and Tithes" themed deck, where prices are paid on every spell if possible.
Need more creative ideas that aren't super spendy. LMK if you got one!
graceful storm
[[damping sphere]]
hollow latchBOT
Artifact
If a land is tapped for two or more mana, it produces instead of any other type and amount.
Each spell a player casts costs more to cast for each other spell that player has cast this turn.
A Thran relic, it has spent ten thousand years doing absolutely nothing.
hollow locust
[[damping sphere]]
Love it
hollow latchBOT
Creature — Avatar
Whenever an opponent casts an instant or sorcery spell, they may pay . If they don't, you may copy that spell. You may choose new targets for the copy.
"Fly the path of nine birds."
4/4
Explore the Vastlands
Sorcery
Each player looks at the top five cards of their library and may reveal a land card and/or an instant or sorcery card from among them. Each player puts the cards they revealed this way into their hand and the rest on the bottom of their library in a random order. Each player gains 3 life.
graceful storm
[[pollywog prodi]]
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willow jacinth
would [[aatchik, emerald radian]] be worth pairing with [[nest of scarabs]] for blight curse precon?
grand coyote
would [[aatchik, emerald radian]] be worth pairing with [[nest of scarabs]] for ...
I don’t think so unless you’re willing to run a couple of tutors
livid condor
What commander should I use for a 5 color Start Your Engines deck?
gentle stump
[[Ezio Auditore da Firenze]] would allow you to have early access to speed gain
hollow latchBOT
Legendary Creature — Human Assassin
Menace
Assassin spells you cast have freerunning . (You may cast a spell for its freerunning cost if you dealt combat damage to a player this turn with an Assassin or commander.)
Whenever Ezio deals combat damage to a player, you may pay if that player has 10 or less life. When you do, that player loses the game.
3/2
gentle stump
It's also something you can cast off an early colorless start your engines land. Cards with a WUBRG mana cost may just be tricky to cast with those lands in the deck.
graceful knot
Thats smart thinking
graceful storm
[[Terra magical adept]] could be fun
hollow latchBOT
Legendary Creature — Human Wizard Warrior
When Terra enters, mill five cards. Put up to one enchantment card milled this way into your hand.
Trance — , : Exile Terra, then return it to the battlefield transformed under its owner's control. Activate only as a sorcery.
4/2
Esper Terra
Legendary Enchantment Creature — Saga Wizard
(As this Saga enters and after your draw step, add a lore counter.)
I, II, III — Create a token that's a copy of target nonlegendary enchantment you control. It gains haste. If it's a Saga, put up to three lore counters on it. Sacrifice it at the beginning of your next end step.
IV — Add , , , , and . Exile Esper Terra, then return it to the battlefield (front face up).
Flying
6/6
livid condor
It's also something you can cast off an early colorless start your engines land....
I tried this in the first draft but it turns out that he quickly starts getting blocked
gentle stump
I tried this in the first draft but it turns out that he quickly starts getting ...
I suppose he is not the only card you run for speed gain? The other 5 color options have no evasion or get onto the battlefield much later.
livid condor
I suppose he is not the only card you run for speed gain? The other 5 color opti...
Yeah that's why I really don't know. Like maybe the right call is to try for speed, or maybe the commander can shore up faults of the deck elsewhere
gentle stump
Well, with speed you have a few things that need to go right from the get go: you need an early way to deal damage and you need an early way to start your engines. Striking this balance can be tricky.
safe grove
I’m trying to find cuts
And maybe some help finding some redundancy
Specifically cards like gorgon’s head and basilisk collar.
And also cards that give me consistent advantage
celest sparrow
https://moxfield.com/decks/Vt5_uqTqWEKCwxJIpZjq2Q
so with this deck i was focussing alot on clones and now i feel like im missing the creatures to clone, like of the 27 creatures im playing only 1-3 are really worth cloning, does anyone have anything to help with that? (cuts/changes) deck is tagged too, im also considering cutting the tutors to tune down the deck, have to play a night or 2 with it first tho
shell osprey
https://moxfield.com/decks/QvnZtxTIFEyxWKunPd3X7A
Need to make two cuts here in my Maralen Combo deck. What would you be cutting? Everything is tagged if that helps
willow jacinth
debating if i want to try tossing in [[red xiii]] into my gruul werewolves+wolves tokens and +1/+1 counters deck. he is not a wolf so he wouldn't get buffed by all my lords and tribal cards, but he would definitely buff them because of the counters
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vale quarry
my pod plays with very greedy manabases and im poor, so i cant match them
im making an azula deck, would it be smart to play mostly basics and things that get basics so i can run ruination and back to basic and such?
queen ivy
my pod plays with very greedy manabases and im poor, so i cant match them
Do y’all not allow proxies?
vale quarry
we do, but I want to eventually own the deck
and having old duals would make that very, very difficult lol
willow jacinth
Hold up, someone correct me if im wrong. [[Wilhelt]] equipped with [[mirrormind crown]] will cause a near infinite death cycle right? When he sees a zombie die, wilhelt will create a zombie token, but the crown will make a copy of wilhelt instead, and legend rule will take over, killing the wilhelt copy, and repeating. You can choose to end the cycle by deciding to kill the original wilhelt equipped with the crown. You could use this with any 'when creature dies, deal dmg' card right?
hollow latchBOT
Artifact — Equipment
As long as this Equipment is attached to a creature, the first time you would create one or more tokens each turn, you may instead create that many tokens that are copies of equipped creature.
Equip
Forged in Velis Vel, swiped by a clever merrow, and sold to a curious kithkin.
willow jacinth
Wait nvm
Crown only triggers on the first time it happens each turn
Knew i missed something
gentle stump
im making an azula deck, would it be smart to play mostly basics and things that...
I would advise against using mass land destruction. It is typically heavily frowned upon. You can make do with a budget manabase, especially if you run 3 or fewer colors.
gentle stump
we do, but I want to eventually own the deck
What is the budget?
gentle stump
Ok, is that for the entire deck or just the manabase?
gentle stump
its meant to be bracket 4
Then mass land destruction may be acceptable.
vale quarry
Ok, is that for the entire deck or just the manabase?
entire deck
gentle stump
entire deck
https://archidekt.com/decks/19327300/nonbasic_lands_per_color_combination I've compiled a list of lands that I like. You can sort by price.
vale quarry
danke
willow jacinth
im really debating if i want to keep the combo of [[chronicle of victory]] and [[bow of nylea]] in my gruul werewolves or swap it for a different 2 card combo or something for the neutral game
im calling it a combo because the combination of first strike, death touch, and trample means i will kill most blockers using just the 1 dmg and the rest will go through with trample with no risk to my own creatures
hollow latchBOT
Legendary Enchantment Artifact
Attacking creatures you control have deathtouch.
, : Choose one —
• Put a +1/+1 counter on target creature.
• Bow of Nylea deals 2 damage to target creature with flying.
• You gain 3 life.
• Put up to four target cards from your graveyard on the bottom of your library in any order.
willow jacinth
my most up to date version of the deck, https://moxfield.com/decks/YNNxXlVTrk2v5aM3dgHjFQ
vernal perch
Anyone know of any fun or theme fitting draw spells/engines for a deck with Monarch focus and 25x templar knights?
colours are Jeskai! ?
creature type focus is mostly humans, but quite a bit of knight aswell
for example i added [[Mass Appeal]] or [[The Council of Four]]
vernal perch
pls @ me if you have any ideas ❤️ here is my deck work in progress https://archidekt.com/decks/19912619/monarch_ripple_templar
vital kiln
Hello, could anyone give me a quick opinion about a deck i made. Its kinda has Budget and im also using some cards i already own. Our pod is around mid to high bracket 2 i would say and i often have difficulty in seeing if a deck would work great or not. So if could give me there opinion that would be great
If you See any Problems or Cuts i should make pls tell me
sturdy flint
I'm trying to bring my Imodane, the Pyrohammer deck up to a bracket 4. If anyone has any ideas for cards to include in my deck, I'd appreciate it. Here's my decklist: https://moxfield.com/decks/YS-M7Fnr70eux4zOlSai6A
It just feels like I keep getting outpaced by other bracket 4 decks.
sturdy flint
and counterspells
gentle stump
I'm trying to bring my Imodane, the Pyrohammer deck up to a bracket 4. If anyone...
The group hug is probably hurting you quite a bit at bracket 4. You're also quite high up on the curve with some of your finishers.
For the counter problem you could run a card like Hexing Squelcher. There are also burn spells that can't be countered. Deflecting Swat can also counter counterspells.
Other cards that may or may not be good (don't really know Imodane well) but may not be on your radar: Arcbond/Barrel Down Sokenzan/Impact Resonance/Mine Collapse/Pyrokinesis/Weight of Spires/Quest for Pure Flame
Also, maybe some more fast mana? It will make you burn out fast though.
glacial yacht
does anyone know how to make a functional [[the lady of otaria]] deck
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vale quarry
does anyone know how to make a functional [[the lady of otaria]] deck
maybe dwarf kindred with a landfall subtheme?
but im not sure about good gruul dwarves
like, you can use the red ones from kaladesh and kaldheim
but idk any good ones in green
glacial yacht
I've tried brewing it and it's a bad dwarf deck and a bad landfall deck
gentle stump
does anyone know how to make a functional [[the lady of otaria]] deck
Maybe you run her as a secret commander in a multicolor shell where you can run the cards that add creature types to your creature cards.
glacial yacht
I hate secret commanders though
They just don't work well as a commander and you need a ton of tutors and stuff
gentle stump
Well, then you are stuck with mostly terrible dwarves and some changelings I'm afraid.
astral ember
Wandering Minstrel – Turn 8 Maze’s End (Bracket 2.0)
Primary win is consistent Maze’s End.
Towns support midgame and enable a secondary overrun line.
Plays as mana-advantage control with resets and rebuild speed.
It’s performing well, but I’m upgrading wipes soon.
What would you change to optimize it further?
sage adder
Any good dimir noncreature artifact wincons/combos that I can try and fit into my deck?
gentle stump
Any good dimir noncreature artifact wincons/combos that I can try and fit into m...
Not an artifact but: [[Mechanized Production]]
What is your deck about?
hollow latchBOT
sage adder
Not an artifact but: [[Mechanized Production]]
What is your deck about?
The only real current wincons the deck has is the end step trigger from [[golbez Crystal collector]] (my commander) as well as [[revel in riches]], [[mirrodin besieged]], and [[Strixhaven stadium]]. My only issue is that most of these are either too slow to set up or they only take out one player at a time. As for the plan of the deck, that's where it falls flat on its face. Golbez would work better if I played a bunch of artifact creatures, but I built this deck with a stronger focus on the noncreature, making golbez kind of an awkward card.
hollow latchBOT
Enchantment
Whenever a creature an opponent controls dies, create a Treasure token. (It's an artifact with ", Sacrifice this token: Add one mana of any color.")
At the beginning of your upkeep, if you control ten or more Treasures, you win the game.
Artifact
: Add . Put a point counter on this artifact.
Whenever a creature deals combat damage to you, remove a point counter from this artifact.
Whenever a creature you control deals combat damage to an opponent, put a point counter on this artifact. Then if it has ten or more point counters on it, remove them all and that player loses the game.
gentle stump
Hmm, is there a reason why they need to be noncreature artifacts?
sage adder
It's more of a personal thing for me lol. I love playing artifact decks and have always wanted to build one that didn’t rely on creatures (and have tried multiple times) simply because there are some funny noncreature artifacts. I wanted to build the deck in dimir so I could have some decent interaction, and since there aren't many great dimir artifact commanders, I was further restricted.
gentle stump
Theoretically, you wouldn't need many creatures to make Golbez deal some serious damage. You just need a way to toss those big creatures back into the yard for next turn. [[Death's Shadow]], [[Phyrexian Dreadnought]] (super expensive) and [[Void Beckoner]] come to mind.
hollow latchBOT
Creature — Nightmare Horror
Deathtouch
Cycling (, Discard this card: Draw a card.)
When you cycle this card, put a deathtouch counter on target creature you control.
8/8
sage adder
Theoretically, you wouldn't need many creatures to make Golbez deal some serious...
Can we talk about this more in my post? I need some other help with the deck, as it's a bit messy still
gentle stump
Will take a look
astral ember
I’m running a Teval graveyard engine deck — no infinite combos, no game changers, relatively slow mana base.
Would you consider this Bracket 3, or more of a high Bracket 2?
Some people at my table think it’s a 3, but it doesn’t have consistent combo lines or fast finishes.
Curious to hear outside opinions 👇
warm garnet
[[!solve the equation]]
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gentle stump
I’m running a Teval graveyard engine deck — no infinite combos, no game changers...
There is some variance there. I was inclined to say bracket 2, but I depending on your draw, I could see players considering it bracket 3. Especially if you're on the receiving end of multiple Stripmine activations or witnessing a Warren Soultrader + Gravecrawler engine.
And in such cases, it is typically better to err on the high side. So I'd go with bracket 3.
olive gale
is this channel only for commander deck brewing or can I ask for help in other formats as well?
queen ivy
is this channel only for commander deck brewing or can I ask for help in other f...
You can ask for other formats, sure, but we do have #1294314638120452269 that would help
shrewd kiln
https://archidekt.com/decks/6340214/spectrum
did a slight rework on this deck... and now I need 5 cuts. any suggestions?
ripe steeple
https://archidekt.com/decks/6340214/spectrum
did a slight rework on this deck......
Soul of ravnica
Spirit of resistance
Sphinx révélation
Ancient cornucopia ( just play kodamas reach or culture)
Conqueror's flair ( if u really want this play grand abolisher but it's not that useful in ur deck)
astral ember
There is some variance there. I was inclined to say bracket 2, but I depending o...
#1020353936592470147 never did several strip min, it wins from living end or death, but i mean it doesnt have any GC, fast mana or combos with 3 cards or less
frozen ocean
Hey, I've working on this mono green card draw deck and was wondering if I could get suggestion of cards to add/cut. Its built around Jolrael, Mwonvuli Recluse. here is the decklist: https://moxfield.com/decks/xP3zqS6EVUKnZS3QI5ev7g
wet chasm
Hey, I've working on this mono green card draw deck and was wondering if I could...
The biggest note I have is that 28 lands (30 with mdfc) is outrageously low. Even with all the card draw
You're just not going to be able to do what you want to do a lot of the times
If I had to suggest a number, I would say 35 minimum. I think 38 is an "ideal" but I get wanting to cut a couple off for some cards
Mono green allows you to go lower but not down to 30 IMO
gentle stump
<#1020353936592470147> never did several strip min, it wins from living end or d...
It's no clear cut, the boundary is vague. I don't think it will be a problem if you play this deck in B2.
gentle stump
Hey, I've working on this mono green card draw deck and was wondering if I could...
That's a pretty heavy elf theme.
I do see the appeal of Jolrael, just seems to me that she may end up in the shadow a bit while your elves steal the show.
willow jacinth
Would [[haunted crossroads]] be worth using with [[wilhelt]]? The idea being that during the endstep you'd pay the swamp, put a creature on top of library, sac a zombie with wilhelt to put that creature immediately into your hand
hollow latchBOT
Enchantment
: Put target creature card from your graveyard on top of your library.
It seemed as if no one wanted them to reach the Henge of Ramos—not even the dead.
warm garnet
Would [[haunted crossroads]] be worth using with [[wilhelt]]? The idea being tha...
I could see it, if you have like Warren soultrader, blood artist and a cheap creature to cast i.e gravcrawler it should be decent to run
That alone can just win the game
willow jacinth
could be made even better with [[empty the laboratory]] spend however much mana to put x ammount of creatures on top of library from graveyard, then play that card and sac x ammount of zombie tokens to put those zombies onto the battlefield, lol
hollow latchBOT
tired badger
[[coveted jewel]] is a cut for me
hollow latchBOT
Artifact
When this artifact enters, draw three cards.
: Add three mana of any one color.
Whenever one or more creatures an opponent controls attack you and aren't blocked, that player draws three cards and gains control of this artifact. Untap it.
mystic mango
https://archidekt.com/decks/20313618/slivdrazi hey can anyone check if there is any win more card in here i can cut easily?
cant really figure out what card to cut
umbral gyro
https://archidekt.com/decks/20313618/slivdrazi hey can anyone check if there is ...
Estimated deck cost 10000 DOLLARS who are you elon musk
I would cut call of the ring
I would cut idol of oblivion
I would cut at least one land. Not sure you need 40
upper basin
https://archidekt.com/decks/20313618/slivdrazi hey can anyone check if there is ...
The lands are overkill, and ridiculously expensive
mystic mango
The lands are overkill, and ridiculously expensive
For color fixing,my lgs allow proxying
mystic mango
I would cut idol of oblivion
You got better draw engine recommendations?
Cuz like rn draw feel not enough
That’s why I put those 2 in
warm garnet
[[morbid oppo]]
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upper basin
For color fixing,my lgs allow proxying
I try to limit my proxy decks to 1000$ but it’s your deck lol
mystic mango
I try to limit my proxy decks to 1000$ but it’s your deck lol
Tbh I also limit it,but I would never count reserve list card
So my deck look cheaper in my eye
As reserve list card is just stupidly overpriced
warm garnet
[[glaring flesh]] is always an option
hollow latchBOT
Creature — Eldrazi Drone
Whenever you cast a colorless spell, create a 0/1 colorless Eldrazi Spawn creature token with "Sacrifice this token: Add ."
Whenever another colorless creature you control enters, this creature deals 1 damage to each opponent.
2/2
mystic mango
[[morbid oppo]]
Alright I forgot my deck is also aiming to let other sacrifices their stuff
So that would work
But I don’t know if it will get any draw early game before my commander is out
warm garnet
i mean i would trhow in brainstorm or ponder or something
mystic mango
It was considered
warm garnet
oh and consider
mystic mango
But my deck is slower so bigger draw is better
Instead of just small filtered draw that goes hands neutral
mystic mango
My problem rn is I got like 3 basic
If I got hit by some effect that search basic more than 3 times Im done
warm garnet
just use farseek and what not that searches for non basics
warm garnet
i wouldn't be too worried about it I mean it's not the end of the world
mystic mango
[[glaring flesh]] is always an option
It is in my deck,rn the problem is I want my token to be on board instead of sacrificing it most of the time
To get more board presence
mystic mango
https://scryfall.com/card/tdc/188/morbid-opportunist
Wait this trigger on opponent turn?
Damnnn ok that definitely draw lot of card then
carmine surge
https://manabox.app/decks/AZywD1DUfpulhstdJ3OqJg
thoughts on this deck?
umbral gyro
I will not be offering any opinions o Tergrid
gentle stump
https://manabox.app/decks/AZywD1DUfpulhstdJ3OqJg
thoughts on this deck?
What is the intended bracket? I think at the lower brackets, players will hate playing against this deck, yet at the higher brackets you may as well play Demonic Tutor, Vampiric Tutor, Opposition Agent and Sol Ring.
faint vector
What is the intended bracket? I think at the lower brackets, players will hate p...
i mean
looks b3
decks already running opp agent, definitely agreeing that you might as well add sol ring
faint vector
https://manabox.app/decks/AZywD1DUfpulhstdJ3OqJg
thoughts on this deck?
also, you forgot [[Delirium Skeins]]
hollow latchBOT
carmine surge
What is the intended bracket? I think at the lower brackets, players will hate p...
Didn’t realize I forgot sol ring
carmine surge
oh, and cut contamination if this is b3
Nah it’s b4 but pod keeps the 3 gc limit
carmine surge
What is the intended bracket? I think at the lower brackets, players will hate p...
It has opposition agent, Tergrid herself, and ancient tomb for gcs
Probably take out ancient tomb for vampiric tutor? Idk
Trust me I would love to run more but can’t
carmine surge
I will not be offering any opinions o Tergrid
I know I’m a bad person
graceful knot
How many targets would you be running in a deck with [[demonic counsel]]? its a deck likely to hit the secondary condition somewhat midgame, but I don't want it dead in the early game either.
hollow latchBOT
upper basin
That depends on the deck and what it needs the card for
I mean, [[demonic tutor]] exists
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upper basin
Although that is a GC soooo
upper basin
How many targets would you be running in a deck with [[demonic counsel]]? its a ...
Actually answering the question my personal number would be ~5 assuming it’s not a demon tribal deck
graceful knot
I specifically don't want to run demonic tutor
upper basin
Fair
graceful knot
That depends on the deck and what it needs the card for
Sefris, in the mid-late game I want to access toolbox options and get the initiative if I haven't found it, in the early game I am trying to grab things like [[rot curse raksha]] that are threatening but also trigger sefris
hollow latchBOT
Creature — Demon
Trample
Decayed (This creature can't block. When it attacks, sacrifice it at end of combat.)
Renew — , Exile this card from your graveyard: Put a decayed counter on each of X target creatures. Activate only as a sorcery.
5/5
upper basin
[[Sefris]]
hollow latchBOT
graceful knot
I am tempted by [[embodiment of agonies]] but thats pet card bias
hollow latchBOT
Creature — Demon
Flying, deathtouch
This creature enters with a +1/+1 counter on it for each different mana cost among nonland cards in your graveyard. (For example, and are different mana costs.)
"I feel your pain. It's exquisite."
0/0
graceful knot
Its just a beater
upper basin
Oh my roommate has them as a commander actually
It’s a cycling deck that’s really strong
graceful knot
Yeah, Sefris is kinda busted lol
Flicker and cycling both go CRAZY in there
I dont wanna lean on those here though
Cycling is my necrobloom project
upper basin
Cycling is my necrobloom project
That makes sense
graceful knot
Currently my demons are the rakshasa, blade of the oni, and Raffine
I can probably find two more I want
graceful knot
Demons in general, some level of active benefit is nice though of course. Pretty tempted by doom whisperer since thats instant speed sefris triggers and mill and selection
upper basin
Cause [[Abhorrent Overlord]] is a bit costly but can give you blockers
hollow latchBOT
Creature — Demon
Flying
When this creature enters, create a number of 1/1 black Harpy creature tokens with flying equal to your devotion to black. (Each in the mana costs of permanents you control counts toward your devotion to black.)
At the beginning of your upkeep, sacrifice a creature.
6/6
upper basin
[[Apocalypse Demon]] for big beater
hollow latchBOT
upper basin
[[Archfiend of the Dross]] “board wipe me, do it”
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graceful knot
Cause [[Abhorrent Overlord]] is a bit costly but can give you blockers
sefris cheats costs fairly regularly anyway so its not the end of the world
but I was honestly thinking whisperer and varragoth probably complete my package. Whisperer is a flample value piece, varragoth can not only set up more toolboxing but also has deathtouch to dissuade attacks
I forgot dross had other abilties there
hm
upper basin
I’m running it in Koh, although it hasn’t really had a chance to effect a game yet lol
graceful knot
Ohhhh [[abyssal harvester]] my beloved... I dont think its right for this but I love this card
hollow latchBOT
Creature — Demon Warlock
: Exile target creature card from a graveyard that was put there this turn. Create a token that's a copy of it, except it's a Nightmare in addition to its other types. Then exile all other Nightmare tokens you control.
"Till the soil, spare no soul. / Neath the darkness, nightmares grow." —Children's nursery rhyme
3/2
upper basin
I was considering mentioning it but it’s effects works off stuff dying and Sefris’s removal is likely more exile based
graceful knot
mhm
upper basin
Not to turn this into a deck building discussion but you could run stuff like [[Fiendish Panda]]
hollow latchBOT
upper basin
That’s the last card I’ll bring up lol
graceful knot
I really did consider panda heavily
It can grab ledger shredder, phantasmal image, some of the self-sac creature counterspells, it has uses
But they are so reliant on it dying
upper basin
True
trail cedar
Could someone help me with what cards to cut? I have way too many.
https://archidekt.com/decks/20353533/sokka_and_zada_the_allies
willow jacinth
would [[deglamer]] be more worthwhile than something like [[return to nature]] or [[root out]] (or other generic destroy artifact/enchantment spell) since it would get around indestructible?
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Sorcery
Destroy target artifact or enchantment.
Investigate. (Create a Clue token. It's an artifact with ", Sacrifice this token: Draw a card.")
gentle stump
Both are definitely better than Root Out, as interaction is much better at instant speed than at sorcery speed.
But when comparing Deglamer to Return to Nature, it probably depends on your meta. Return to Nature is likely the most versatile as it can also stop some graveyard shenanigans, but if you happen to face cards like [[Purphoros, God of the Forge]] a lot, perhaps Deglamer is the pick.
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Legendary Enchantment Creature — God
Indestructible
As long as your devotion to red is less than five, Purphoros isn't a creature.
Whenever another creature you control enters, Purphoros deals 2 damage to each opponent.
: Creatures you control get +1/+0 until end of turn.
6/5
gentle stump
would [[deglamer]] be more worthwhile than something like [[return to nature]] o...
There is an even better one though.
[[Heritage Reclamation]]
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willow jacinth
the current artifact/enchantment removal in my werewolf deck is [[outland liberator]] [[destructive revelry]] [[return to nature]] [[beast within]] [[chaos warp]] and [[vandalblast]]
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Creature — Human Werewolf
, Sacrifice this creature: Destroy target artifact or enchantment.
Daybound (If a player casts no spells during their own turn, it becomes night next turn.)
"Just hold still. I'll help you."
2/2
Frenzied Trapbreaker
Creature — Werewolf
, Sacrifice this creature: Destroy target artifact or enchantment.
Whenever this creature attacks, destroy target artifact or enchantment defending player controls.
Nightbound (If a player casts at least two spells during their own turn, it becomes day next turn.)
3/3
Sorcery
Destroy target artifact you don't control.
Overload (You may cast this spell for its overload cost. If you do, change "target" in its text to "each.")
Beauty is in the eye of the exploder.
willow jacinth
I do have things like [[hullbreach]] [[decimate]] [[direstrain rampage]] etc but im not sure if i need more of the removal or what i'd swap out
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Sorcery
Destroy target artifact, enchantment, or land. If a land was destroyed this way, its controller may search their library for up to two basic land cards, put them onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle. Otherwise, its controller may search their library for a basic land card, put it onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle.
Flashback
willow jacinth
my deck so far: https://moxfield.com/decks/YNNxXlVTrk2v5aM3dgHjFQ
honestly i think the only thing i want/need to fully flesh it out is [[great henge]] for more counters and card draw
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Legendary Artifact
This spell costs less to cast, where X is the greatest power among creatures you control.
: Add . You gain 2 life.
Whenever a nontoken creature you control enters, put a +1/+1 counter on it and draw a card.
runic fulcrum
I need an opinion on if this deck is going to wide and doing to many things
Or if it’s still bracket 2
dapper spruce
Ngl, I don't see much payoff for being a life gain deck here
Manabase could use a little work, could use some card advantage that isn't the commander, could narrow out a couple of too cute choices
sage adder
Any good cards for a Naya storm deck with [[Zacama, Primal Calamity]] as the commander?
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Legendary Creature — Elder Dinosaur
Vigilance, reach, trample
When Zacama enters, if you cast it, untap all lands you control.
: Zacama deals 3 damage to target creature.
: Destroy target artifact or enchantment.
: You gain 3 life.
9/9
sage adder
(I'm using the commander as a pseudo ritual effect to add more to my storm count)
queen ivy
Any good cards for a Naya storm deck with [[Zacama, Primal Calamity]] as the com...
Airbending and recasting Zacama for 
is a really good way to ritual for more mana
She goes infinite with [[monk gyatso]] and 6+ mana
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Legendary Creature — Human Monk
Whenever another creature you control becomes the target of a spell or ability, you may airbend that creature. (Exile it. While it's exiled, its owner may cast it for rather than its mana cost.)
"My ancient cake-making technique isn't the only thing on your mind, is it, Aang?"
3/3
sage adder
Nice, I was also thinking of adding [[food chain]] and [[Squee the immortal]] to also go infinite
sage adder
Now all I need are good storm payoffs, like [[Aetherflux Resovoir]]
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shrewd kiln
https://archidekt.com/decks/4072158/watch_the_throne
getting back on this funny little deck I built a while back, but now I need 9 cuts. any suggestions?
solar forge
Does anyone have a decent example of using Poison/Infect with Rad Counters in The Wise Mothman? I've been looking to pair these under a Proliferate strat, but I'd like to see what other people prioritize.
cerulean fern
https://moxfield.com/decks/76ndzFyM10uGSw8docv_cA
Interesting idea for the deck.
-- I suppose you've hear of the Sanguine Bond / Esquisite Blood combo.
-- for creature removal could I suggest Vona's Hunder (all opponents sac half their creatures)
-- for board control Grave Pact (creature removal)
-- swap out Dark Ritual for Culling the Weak
cerulean fern
@runic fulcrum otherwise seems like a decently solid deck
gentle stump
https://moxfield.com/decks/1gu_wkYvwU23oYo7YQ95Ng
Looks fun to play. With these decks it can be tricky to get a feel for what the right amount of fight/removal is. As typically you do want to have your theme work out nicely, but you may not wish to be overly oppressive. You seem to have a nice amount of proactive beaters though, very nice.
I think you may wish a few more lands, as the deck is somewhat mana hungry.
graceful storm
Looks fun to play. With these decks it can be tricky to get a feel for what the ...
Yeah that's one of my worries
gentle stump
Yeah that's one of my worries
I took most of the repeating fight cards out of my deck to avoid the problem. As it is a bit demoralizing to see what will kill your creature before it happens.
willow jacinth
how good would [[consuming fervor]] be for an [[auntie ool]] deck?
lofty laurel
Someone convince me not to put [[Quest for the Holy Relic]] in my Isshin deck. Have lots of creatures, and the deck is a little aggro and would love to become explosive to finish people off unexpectedly with things like chance for glory or a tutored out and instantly equipped helm of the host on combat celebrant for a combo or something with this card
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lofty laurel
It's a little dead as a late draw, but so are some of my aggro two drops anyway. That might just be the style of the deck to sacrifice a little consistency for some explosiveness. This card almost even ADDS some consistency with getting some helm of the host stuff out EVENTUALLY. Feel like if my aggro plan gets hosed, I can build a non-threatening board state with this enchantment and Isshin, play my fifth creature, immediately tutor helm of the host onto it, then get crazy value. Am I overestimating this or underestimating downsides or might this perform about how I might expect it to and I have all the risks properly in mind?
gentle stump
It's a little dead as a late draw, but so are some of my aggro two drops anyway....
I think this card would be significantly stronger if it was an ETB trigger rather than a cast trigger. If you consider it mostly as a card that can get you a significant equipment for the late game, it may be better to just run a regular equipment tutor.
finite topaz
Making my first deck for casual (competitive with friends) , can someone look at it for me and tell me if I did good or if there’s any obvious things that can be improved upon.
cerulean fern
I'll give it a gander
willow jacinth
Speaking of tutors, would it be worth running [[moonsilver key]] to find my [[the celestus]] or [[the great henge]] for my werewolves?
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Artifact
, , Sacrifice this artifact: Search your library for an artifact card with a mana ability or a basic land card, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle.
To restore the day-night balance, the Celestus mechanism's Sungold Lock must be reunited with its long-lost key.
Legendary Artifact
If it's neither day nor night, it becomes day as The Celestus enters.
: Add one mana of any color.
, : If it's night, it becomes day. Otherwise, it becomes night. Activate only as a sorcery.
Whenever day becomes night or night becomes day, you gain 1 life. You may draw a card. If you do, discard a card.
Legendary Artifact
This spell costs less to cast, where X is the greatest power among creatures you control.
: Add . You gain 2 life.
Whenever a nontoken creature you control enters, put a +1/+1 counter on it and draw a card.
willow jacinth
Or similarly to search for [[ashnod's altar]] or [[phyrexian altar]] for my zombies
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Artifact
Sacrifice a creature: Add .
"If you work at sawing up carcasses, you notice how the joints fit, how the nerves are arrayed, and how the skin peels back." —Ashnod, to Tawnos
gentle stump
Speaking of tutors, would it be worth running [[moonsilver key]] to find my [[th...
I suppose at worst it finds Sol Ring and as such costs a total of 4 mana over however many turns you need to make 2 mana. That is not a terrible rate.
If you rely heavily on those sac outlets it is a great card for the zombie deck I guess. That said, sometimes a zombie deck can lose it's kindred theme a bit and turn into a combo deck. Then again, that is perfectly fine too.
terse dust
Hello, I recently started working on a spellslinger deck helmed by [[Ovika, enigma goliath]]. Any suggestions ? Do I need to play token maker like [[third path iconoclast]] or Ovika is sufficient by itself ? For the kill cards, I will play [[Shared animosity]], [[Purphoros, god of the forge]] and like. However, I'm wondering about the spellslinging support suite like [[Double vision]], [[swarm intelligence]], [[Archmage emeritus]], etc ...
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Legendary Creature — Phyrexian Nightmare
Flying
Ward—, Pay 3 life.
Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, create X 1/1 red Phyrexian Goblin creature tokens, where X is the mana value of that spell. They gain haste until end of turn.
6/6
Legendary Enchantment Creature — God
Indestructible
As long as your devotion to red is less than five, Purphoros isn't a creature.
Whenever another creature you control enters, Purphoros deals 2 damage to each opponent.
: Creatures you control get +1/+0 until end of turn.
6/5
gusty depot
Swarm intelligence doesn’t actually get you cast triggers, because the copies aren’t cast
But it is still very strong in general, so up to you. It is extremely expensive mana wise tho, so depends on your ramp/mana situation
The rest do look like solid additions and ways to squeeze out more value in an already strong deck
upper basin
Hello, I recently started working on a spellslinger deck helmed by [[Ovika, enig...
Having cards like TPI is good redundancy for when you don’t have your commander out
lofty laurel
anybody accustomed to using Salubrious Snail's manabase tool? I'm looking to contextualize how bad the tool is saying my mana base is
dapper spruce
I find the tool overtuned to high mana counts and don't think it properly recognizes nonland sources
neon abyss
anybody accustomed to using Salubrious Snail's manabase tool? I'm looking to con...
I use it. It's a little deck dependent, but anywhere between Functional and Strong is where you wanna be. Very Strong tends to be overkill unless you're doing landbased strategies.
graceful knot
High mana counts is generally good anyway unless you're on something very efficient and if you are, you probably know what you're doing
dapper spruce
Not necessarily
maiden creek
Would AetherSpark work well with a Noct Heir Apparent?
grand coyote
It definitely wouldn’t be bad
I think an advantage of the Aetherspark is that it give a +1/+1 counter
So skipping that is a bit of a downside
Especially since Noctis is only a 2/3
grand coyote
However
Put a myriad creature in there
And you’re cooking with gas
Because he does not specify nontoken
maiden creek
Yeah I got a couple of good cards for this
the shredder from the tmnt precon can go nuts
endless foot assault too
I want it to still hurt if I warp strike with noctis though
This is what I have so far but I am building on a budget and working it out as I go
Any help would be greatly appreciated
tawny osprey
https://archidekt.com/decks/21064983/roku_goad_treasures
I'm trying to move 4 cards to my sideboard, but I'm struggling to figure out what. It's an expensive commander so I have a lot of artifacts that add mana, but I'm wondering if I overdid it? I was thinking of dropping Fellwar Stone, plus [[Spectrum Sentinel]] to start.
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gentle stump
https://archidekt.com/decks/21064983/roku_goad_treasures
I'm trying to move 4 c...
Fun stuff!
The ramp section does seem a little bit undefined so maybe we can streamline the deck there a bit?
How do you want your early game to play out? T1 or T2 a creature, turn 3 a manaramper that allows you to cast your commander on turn 4? Then attack with a creature for 6 mana and cast some other thing?
In that case you may want to make sure you have a creature ready to attack on turn 4. (Alternatively, you could give your commander haste with something like Lightning Greaves)
[[Cataclyst Elemental]], [[Seething Song]] [[Grinning Ignus]] and [[The First Eruption]] could all allow you to cast your commander on turn 4.
Alternatively, you could invest in manarocks with mana value 2 to ramp to four mana on turn 3. Cast something cool on turn 3 and 4 and eventually cast your commander on turn 5 to turn all those cool things into overdrive mode.
Trying to do both might make the early game feel a bit clunky.
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Creature — Elemental
Sacrifice this creature: Add .
As the hyperstormic generator crept past redline, a being emerged from the arc.
2/2
Instant
Add .
Vulshok mana rituals echo the day when the red sun burst through Mirrodin's surface to take its place in the heavens.
Creature — Elemental
, Return this creature to its owner's hand: Add . Activate only as a sorcery.
On rare occasions, a Prismari student will summon an elemental that shows such promise that it's permitted to stay and enroll.
2/2
Enchantment — Saga
(As this Saga enters and after your draw step, add a lore counter. Sacrifice after III.)
I — This Saga deals 1 damage to each creature without flying.
II — Add .
III — Sacrifice a Mountain. If you do, this Saga deals 3 damage to each creature.
wintry blaze
Are there any dedicated deckbuilding discords? Thus far I haven’t been able to find anyone who’s knowledgeable on how to optimize my Emmara deck
gentle stump
Are there any dedicated deckbuilding discords? Thus far I haven’t been able to f...
You can give this discord a shot by opening a thread in deck-brewing here.
cerulean fern
just start a thread of your Emmara decklist and ask for thoughts
wintry blaze
You can give this discord a shot by opening a thread in deck-brewing here.
I’ve given that a shot thus far, nobody’s seen it yet.
It’s just a waiting game I guess, hopefully I can find someone to help out before my competition on Tuesday
gentle stump
Hmm, didn't find it in my quick gloss-over. Will take another look
wintry blaze
The thread Should be “B3/B4 Emmara deck”
gentle stump
Ah, right, I expected a different picture ^^
wintry blaze
Ah gotcha
rugged umbra
i had been looking at the new precons, and do you guys think i could fit a scriv in my current killian list?
https://moxfield.com/decks/ZtXQdKdWMU2Soe3kDkI3jw
dusky needle
Would anyone be willing to look at my Blim deck for suggestions?
edgy patio
Should I do a Voltron or an infect/toxic deck with him as my commander
He’s esper so I could put a lot of protection so all my poison counter creatures will be unblockable
queen ivy
Voltron is good with Jin. I built mine like “triple voltron” where I make 3 creatures all good sized and hit each opponent to maximize his trigger
fast slate
Hey everyone I’m trying to build a build a fairly strong pantlaza deck but I wanted get general advice before I invest into it. I found a deck list that fills most of my checklist. Wanted others opinions to see if it will stand in a bracket 3 game. And any suggestions or advice is cool to
lofty laurel
Hey guys, I'm making an Isshin deck, and hoping to make it a bit aggro. Curve out with creatures every turn, get in attack triggers, stuff like that. For an aggro deck, do I still want all the talismans and signets and all that? I've got a couple 6 drops and a good amount of 5s, but most of my stuff is 3 mana, so 2 CMC mana rocks don't feel like much accelerant. Am I just kidding myself thinking an aggro deck is an exception to wanting a bit of ramp still?
I'll have some acceleration with treasures from stuff like [[zhentarim Bandit]] and stuff like [[sword of the animist]]
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Creature — Halfling Rogue
Whenever this creature attacks, you may pay 1 life. If you do, create a Treasure token. (It's an artifact with ", Sacrifice this token: Add one mana of any color.")
"The Zhentarim are ruthless, unscrupulous, and dishonest. But I must admit, they are effective." —Commander Liara Portyr
2/1
Legendary Artifact — Equipment
Equipped creature gets +1/+1.
Whenever equipped creature attacks, you may search your library for a basic land card, put it onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle.
Equip
The blade glows only for Zendikar's chosen.
gentle stump
Hey guys, I'm making an Isshin deck, and hoping to make it a bit aggro. Curve ou...
I don't play the 2 mana acceleration in my Tymna/Bruse deck that is very similar to Isshin. I do however play a Chrome Mox, because I had one in my collection and I find that ramping to 3 mana on turn 2 is often significant.
lofty laurel
I'm gonna run a gemstone caverns for the same reason 😎
maiden creek
Is there a spell than can equip non-equipment artifacts? looking for some shenanigans with Arna like Equipping a Sol Ring and getting a copy for example
maiden creek
Is there a spell than can equip non-equipment artifacts? looking for some shenan...
or non-aura enchantments
basically I'm trying to copy stuff that shouldn't be copied with her ability
gentle stump
Is there a spell than can equip non-equipment artifacts? looking for some shenan...
[[Bludgeon Brawl]] is the only one I can think of, but it is red.
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Enchantment
Each noncreature, non-Equipment artifact is an Equipment with equip and "Equipped creature gets +X/+0," where X is that artifact's mana value.
austere path
there's also [[Dan Lewis]] and weird combos that are actually in esper colors involving Armed with Proof (all clues are equipment) and Senator Peacock (all artifacts are clues)
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Legendary Creature — Human
Noncreature, non-Equipment artifacts you control are Equipment in addition to their other types and have "Equipped creature gets +1/+0" and equip .
Doctor's companion (You can have two commanders if the other is the Doctor.)
"What's your plan? Some clever sciencey-spacey thing I won't understand?"
2/2
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Legendary Creature — Dragon
Affinity for artifacts (This spell costs less to cast for each artifact you control.)
Flying, haste
Whenever Chiss-Goria attacks, exile the top five cards of your library. You may cast an artifact spell from among them this turn. If you do, it has affinity for artifacts.
5/4
willow jacinth
[[thought vessel]] vs [[decanter of endless water]]
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Artifact
You have no maximum hand size.
: Add .
Infinite possibilities contained in a finite space.
Artifact
You have no maximum hand size.
: Add one mana of any color.
"Now, remember: Under no circumstances should you utter the word 'geyser' in the same room as—oh, blast it!" —Bindlehaim, Upper City merchant
gentle stump
[[thought vessel]] vs [[decanter of endless water]]
What deck are you playing where your best 7 cards aren't good enough? Often these types of cards aren't really necessary for a deck and you may be better off running another piece of ramp.
That said, I think Thought Vessel is the better one out of these two for most decks.
upper basin
I was shoving reliquary tower into every deck because I didn’t like discarding stuff, even though I didn’t play enough card draw to justify it
Now I’m only including “no max hand size” effects if there is actual justification for it
willow jacinth
[[Tovolar, dire overlord]] is the main one, running a lot of wolf tokens plus roaming throne to double effects, otherwise decanter would probably go for [[y'shtola, nights blessed]] as its a 3 cost and i have lots of card draw for her
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Legendary Creature — Human Werewolf
Whenever a Wolf or Werewolf you control deals combat damage to a player, draw a card.
At the beginning of your upkeep, if you control three or more Wolves and/or Werewolves, it becomes night. Then transform any number of Human Werewolves you control.
Daybound
3/3
Tovolar, the Midnight Scourge
Legendary Creature — Werewolf
Whenever a Wolf or Werewolf you control deals combat damage to a player, draw a card.
: Target Wolf or Werewolf you control gets +X/+0 and gains trample until end of turn.
Nightbound
4/4
willow jacinth
I have thought vessel in both, wondering if it would be worth swapping one for decanter, or maybe even run both for y'shtola just for consistency
She's running things like [[curiosity]] [[helm of the ghast lord]] etc, so every time her ability triggers she's drawing multiple cards
willow jacinth
[[Teferi's ageless insight]]
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gentle stump
In Tovolar, wouldn't you rather run land ramp? As artifacts are more often removed than lands.
Vessel makes more sense in Y'shtola, as it at least ramps you to 4 mana on turn 3, allowing you to play your commander a turn early. I probably wouldn't play it in either deck though.
willow jacinth
I'm waiting on my [[party tree]] to arrive, i'll probably swap thought vessel out for it for tovolar
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Legendary Artifact
This spell costs less to cast, where X is the greatest power among creatures you control.
: Add . You gain 2 life.
Whenever a nontoken creature you control enters, put a +1/+1 counter on it and draw a card.
timid python
Anyone help improve my cosmic spiderman comander deckV
river hedge
https://archidekt.com/decks/21967749 i made a rin and seri deck, and i was wondering how my mana base/rocks looked, as its my main point of concern. i was also curious of the draw in there as well
am welcome to any advice though as well ofc
willow jacinth
Would [[wurm's tooth]] and [[demon's horn]] be worth running in [[blech loafing pest]] for more triggers or just better off running creatures with the same/similar effects? [[Bogwater lumaret]]
graceful knot
Would [[wurm's tooth]] and [[demon's horn]] be worth running in [[blech loafing ...
Generally I would steer away from these, but thats mostly because (as a general rule) they vary wildly in effectiveness based on which colours you see during the game not only from your own deck but from opponents decks too. Almost certainly there are ways to get lifegain triggers that are significantly more consistent on both creature AND noncreature cards
maiden creek
[[Noctis, Heir Apparent]] will not trigger [[Arna Kennerüd, Skycaptain]] as He enters tapped and attacking, right?
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Legendary Creature — Human Noble
Whenever a creature you control enters during combat, you may attach target Equipment you control to target creature you control.
Warp-Strike — : Exile Noctis. Return it to the battlefield under its owner's control tapped and attacking at the beginning of that player's next declare attackers step. It can't be blocked that combat.
2/3
crude hull
How many creatures of a specific type should a tribal deck have?
graceful knot
How many creatures of a specific type should a tribal deck have?
It depends on the type, smaller mana values means more of the type as a rule. Wizards get away with ~20 cause of needing to run instants and sorcs usually, elves I have seen run ~35 fairly often
lethal crystal
Trying to find a commander to partner with [[Y'shtola Rhul]] for my pride month yuri deck
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vital heart
Basically anything with an end step trigger works
rotund forge
Trying to find a commander to partner with [[Y'shtola Rhul]] for my pride month ...
Toxic yuri suggestion [[massacre girl]]
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willow jacinth
how useful are the hideaway lands? for example [[spinerock knoll]] [[mosswort bridge]]
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Land
Hideaway 4 (When this land enters, look at the top four cards of your library, exile one face down, then put the rest on the bottom in a random order.)
This land enters tapped.
: Add .
, : You may play the exiled card without paying its mana cost if an opponent was dealt 7 or more damage this turn.
Land
Hideaway 4 (When this land enters, look at the top four cards of your library, exile one face down, then put the rest on the bottom in a random order.)
This land enters tapped.
: Add .
, : You may play the exiled card without paying its mana cost if creatures you control have total power 10 or greater.
graceful knot
mosswort is often very easy to get online. The white/red ones are more deck specific, the others aren't really worth playing.
keen jackal
Would it be possible to tailor the new witherbloom precon to using witherbloom the balancer as its commander? Or completely different playstyle?
graceful knot
Its like... halfway there? But like, balancer is a totally different beast if you really go in on it. And people will play against it assuming you have gone all in on it.
So irregardless of how much changes, I probably wouldn't recommend it
keen jackal
Thats fair then, I did pick up doubling season and parallel lives. Wpuld it be a good add to the witherbloom precon? Im super new to theory crafting and am not sure how to go about upgrading the precon.
vital heart
It's fine to put in the 99 still
Not even just hidden commander style but generically if you lean into tokens just a bit
tired badger
Thats fair then, I did pick up doubling season and parallel lives. Wpuld it be a...
Parallel lives yes
Doubling season is kinda eh
In terms of this deck
Actually I guess the commander does do counters so maybe?
lethal crystal
I saw someone say that i shouldn't build a voltron deck without having red, is there a reason for that
cedar cedar
Nope, seems like an arbitrary rule
willow jacinth
thoughts about tossing in a [[maskwood nexus]] for [[blech loafing pest]] to cover the random elves/humans/vampires?
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Artifact
Creatures you control are every creature type. The same is true for creature spells you control and creature cards you own that aren't on the battlefield.
, : Create a 2/2 blue Shapeshifter creature token with changeling. (It is every creature type.)
worthy panther
https://archidekt.com/decks/21088864/i_cant_stop_winning
Hey guys! Can y'all help me out with some feedback on the maybeboard in this deck I've built? It’s a High B2-Low B3 that can win between turns 6-7 if left uncontested with a decent hand. Right now, the gameplan is to get evereth out, build a board state that produces a lot of treasures and tokens, then cash out at the right time to blow up evereth or threaten a voltron kill. It's been a lot of fun!
Recently, I've been considering additions and/or changes that would include better/more consistent treasure generation, and maybe more interactions for treasures to have threatening value outisde of make evereth big. Was hoping to get some thoughts on swapping some cards around the ones I've found and added to the maybeboard.
worthy panther
man this is awkward cause it's me again lol but dw that deck ^^^ is running smooth now lol
https://archidekt.com/decks/22434866/azorius_insert_text_here_deck
Just wanted to see if there were any good cheap optimizations for this azorius deck im building. The name of the game is standard make dragons and win with combat by tapping opponents creatures and some stax to slow them down long enough to eek the win out.
I'm hoping to get it up to B3 without spending more; in fact, if there are ways to make it cheaper that would be even better lol. Appreciate any help!
sage adder
Hey guys! I'm looking to make a commander deck that has all the secrets of strixhaven college founders, any tips for a commander and a few possible includes?
grand coyote
Hey guys! I'm looking to make a commander deck that has all the secrets of strix...
I mean if you want a five color dragon deck, your best bets would be
Ur-Dragon
Morophon
Jodah the Unifier
Tiamat
Scion of the Ur-Dragon
Sisay, Weatherlight Captain
Rakarumel maybe?
If you want to make it multicolor-themed, there’s
Ramos
Infinite Guidlight Station
Niv-Mizzet Supreme
Niv-Mizzet Reborn
Niv-Mizzet Guildpact
I hope that helps?
cerulean fern
funny if it was Niv-Mizzet the Supreme Guildpact Reborn
sage adder
I hope that helps?
I'm currently stuck between the more spell orinted Niv-Mizzet Supreme and the more dragon focused Scion of the Ur-Dragon
The idea is a bit funky in general, so finding the right balance between the two is a bit difficult
cerulean fern
I ma sure you will find a way
sage adder
I'm trying to figure out if adding Miirym is leaning too hard in the dragon direction, or even if it would make the deck any better
graceful knot
Cross posting from commander cause that channel is hot right now, what would you consider the threat level of [[the war doctor]] when its not doing the silly "i exile the whole deck and kill you instantly" gimmick?
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upper basin
https://archidekt.com/decks/21041696/the_war_saga
I made a War Doctor deck deliberately trying to avoid that ceiling, cause that just doesn’t seem fun
Its not in paper so I can’t say if it’s particularly strong or not
But imo the war doctor is more interesting if you avoid that gimmick, especially since you’d need extra combats to avoid losing to draw step
grand coyote
I'm trying to figure out if adding Miirym is leaning too hard in the dragon dire...
IMO Miirym is just a “win more” card, you’re not gonna have much of a harder time winning if you only have one terror of the peaks rather than two
I guess you should ask what bracket you want your deck to be
Technically Miirym isn’t a game changer, but in a dragon deck it definitely feels like one
graceful knot
Its not in paper so I can’t say if it’s particularly strong or not
Oh Ian was one of my options! I assume doing some cascade/discover stuff to then get "free" replicate?
upper basin
That would have been smart
The concept of the deck is it’s part of my copy project so I was prioritizing Ian with deck building
And that combo has like, 2 decks on edhrec and one of them is probably mine
So I wanted to try it
graceful knot
I was thinking Turlough/War Doctor as Sagas/Superfriends effectively, using things like AllWillBeOne, Quintorius Kand, Long Range Sensor, Parting of the Ways etc
upper basin
That sounds pretty cool
willow jacinth
https://moxfield.com/decks/YNNxXlVTrk2v5aM3dgHjFQ
TLDR; the plan is to build wide and tall through multiplying wolf tokens and +1/+1 counters while the werewolves provide anthems until i either overrun the board, finish off with triumph of the hordes, or get the endless combat cycles through aggressive assault and nature's will
Should i swap some of my token generation for more interaction/protection?
at the moment im feeling like [[parallel lives]] is the weakest card in the deck as it relies on having something that makes tokens on the field
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willow jacinth
but on thats same note i have 11 cards that make wolf tokens, not counting parallel lives
(i do not yet own doubling season)
The other card I hope to eventually add is [[defense of the heart]] but i'd need to figure out what to cut for that
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willow jacinth
i honestly might toss in [[inspiring call]]
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grand coyote
I'm currently stuck between the more spell orinted Niv-Mizzet Supreme and the mo...
How’s the process going?
sage adder
How’s the process going?
Well, I've found a decent collection of multicolored spells and ramp that work with Niv-Mizzet Supreme, I'm just filtering through them and getting the best ones now
grand coyote
Nice!
tawny osprey
https://moxfield.com/decks/YNNxXlVTrk2v5aM3dgHjFQ
TLDR; the plan is to build wid...
I'm trying to piece together werewolf stuff too, mind if I ask what you think of the deck overall? Is the day/night thing too tedious to track?
If Parallel Lives isn't doing it for you, maybe some of the video game-themed +1/+1 counter stuff from the Ninja Turtles commander deck like [[Level Up]] or [[High Score]]? [[Super Combo]]?[[Arcade Cabinet]] still benefits most of having a token, but that's another option. Depending on what you want the option to do.
hollow latchBOT
Sorcery
Replicate (When you cast this spell, copy it for each time you paid its replicate cost. You may choose new targets for the copies.)
Target creature you control deals damage equal to its power to target creature an opponent controls.
"Just gotta hit 'em harder than they hit you!"
Artifact
When this artifact enters, put a +1/+1 counter on each of up to four target creatures.
, , Sacrifice a token: Double the number of each kind of counter on target creature.
From the golden age of gaming . . .
sage adder
The deck has to run a lot of tutors so I can garuntee myself at least one of the college founders. It's kinda funky in the fact that each one can be considered a "commander" for the deck so it technically has 6 commanders including Niv-mizzet
timber nymph
Can I get some feedback on this mono-black aristocrats deck? It's the first deck i've built myself so I don't really know what i'm doing
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/7800841#paper
sage adder
Can I get some feedback on this mono-black aristocrats deck? It's the first deck...
I'd recommend [[pitiless plunderer]] for ya
hollow latchBOT
Creature — Human Pirate
Whenever another creature you control dies, create a Treasure token. (It's an artifact with ", Sacrifice this token: Add one mana of any color.")
"Shame to let good gold go to the grave."
1/4
sinful whale
I know blue is the card draw color but what are the best generic card draw options that you could slot into any blue deck
warm garnet
[[brainstorm]] [[ponder]] [[preordain]] [[consider]] [[gitaxian probe]]
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Sorcery
(
can be paid with either or 2 life.)
Look at target player's hand.
Draw a card.
"My flesh holds no secrets, monster. The spirit of Mirrodin will fight on." —Vy Covalt, Mirran resistance
warm garnet
There’s more but I’ll just start there
sinful whale
There’s more but I’ll just start there
I should have specified I don't wanna filter I want card advantage
warm garnet
Right being able to scry and what not will give you card advantage
sinful whale
Like are those 3 mana draw 2 spells good or should I look at something else
I'm not normally a blue player so I don't know the staples
warm garnet
Ponder and brainstorm are almost a must
They’re free draw and ponder if you don’t like the three you get a reset
warm garnet
I should have specified I don't wanna filter I want card advantage
Also all the ones I suggested draw cards they just have extra keywords
sinful whale
My issue is I'm playing that firkbraag precon and I'm trying to upgrade it, specifically had an issue where without my commander I got no card advantage and end up with empty hands
I can see how ponder and brainstorm would help but I need hand refilling so I can keep the engine running
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warm garnet
I mean [[sea gate restoration]] could work but it’s not budget friendly
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Sorcery
Draw cards equal to the number of cards in your hand plus one. You have no maximum hand size for the rest of the game.
"We have much to remember ... and much we can never forget." —Tazri
Sea Gate, Reborn
Land
As this land enters, you may pay 3 life. If you don't, it enters tapped.
: Add .
"We carry on the legacy of those who defended our world by continuing to unearth its secrets." —Tazri
warm garnet
Also [[mystic remora]] (or rhystic but rhystic also not budget friendly)
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Enchantment
Cumulative upkeep (At the beginning of your upkeep, put an age counter on this permanent, then sacrifice it unless you pay its upkeep cost for each age counter on it.)
Whenever an opponent casts a noncreature spell, you may draw a card unless that player pays .
sinful whale
I'm guessing from your suggestions those card where you pay a set mana for a set cards aren't that good
warm garnet
Wdym
sinful whale
Like pay 3 to draw 2 cards, pay 4 to draw 3, etc
sinful whale
Ok this helps better understand what I should be looking for in blue, thanks for the suggestions
warm garnet
Np
young patrol
(RW) I need multiple (for greater likelihood of one being in opening hand) 3-mana or less cards that both ramp (a single treasure is sufficient) and make a creature token or produce a creature token on turn 1 for 1 mana so that I can use Kellan's Adventure to get Shifting Shadow into play by turn 4. There are multiple pairs of 2- and 3- mana cards that can do this when drawn together but I'm looking specifically for cards that can do it by itself so that I have a turn where a tap land isn't throwing things off. The cards specifically can't be creature cards so they don't throw off Shifting Shadows' polymorphs unless they're extremely compelling to spin into on turns 5 and 10 (unlikely/subjective).
Fable of the Mirror Breaker is the only thing I've come across at present.
[[Swarming of Moria]] and [[Prosperous Partnership]] 👀
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Sorcery
Create a Treasure token. (It's an artifact with ", Sacrifice this token: Add one mana of any color.")
Amass Orcs 2. (Put two +1/+1 counters on an Army you control. It's also an Orc. If you don't control an Army, create a 0/0 black Orc Army creature token first.)
warm garnet
[[big score]] if that helps at all
hollow latchBOT
Instant
As an additional cost to cast this spell, discard a card.
Draw two cards and create two Treasure tokens. (They're artifacts with ", Sacrifice this token: Add one mana of any color.")
"Unimaginable riches? I assure you, I have a vivid imagination."
warm garnet
[[ancestors’ aid]]
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Instant
Target creature gets +2/+0 and gains first strike until end of turn.
Create a Treasure token. (It's an artifact with ", Sacrifice this token: Add one mana of any color.")
"You surface-dwellers may have forgotten your history, but it has not forgotten you." —Akal Pakal, First Steward of Oteclan
sour vigil
Hello. I’m looking for cards like choice of damnation, vile consumption, goblin game, and other cool or interesting minigame cards. I have a feeling scryfall’s tagger is incomplete. Any help?
Even stuff like the great Aurora
warm garnet
Planes are a lot of fun
It’s actually an entire separate deck that each plane has a different buff or debuff, and you roll a chaos die that has the plansewalker symbol on it. If you hit the symbol you change planes. It’s only at sorcery speed and you can only do it once a turn
I hope I’m describing that right
sour vigil
I’ll give it a shot
grand coyote
Make sure you talk to people about it first though
There are ways to get random planes online if you want
manic gazelle
Hello. I’m looking for cards like choice of damnation, vile consumption, goblin ...
otag:punisher is another decent tag for these effects
dilemma is a more general one actually
sour vigil
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rugged umbra
i'm currently building a myojin deck with atraxa at the helm
would it be better to just ramp way to much or cheat them into play?
if cheating into play would be better, what are the options for that other than as foretold?
grave kindle
If you are in 4 color I would say ramp so you don't get color screwed but you can always do a little of both
crimson girder
I had Magda the hoardmaster as a ramp card in a Sephiroth Fallen Hero deck cuz I misunderstood crime, and thought attacking a player would net a treasure.
It doesn’t, so I think I wanna replace her. Any suggestions? I think the main boros rock I lack is talisman of conviction, so that’d be an easy swap, but wanna explore other options. I know professional face-breaker is good, but he’s a higher mana cost and requires connecting, so I’m not as confident there. Currently thinking of just getting the myr that taps for 1W
upper basin
[[J.Jonah Jameson]]?
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crimson girder
I’ll have only one source of suspect, but it’s JJJ so I think I like it.
upper basin
There’s also [[curse of opulence]]
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crimson girder
I have that one
sinful whale
I've heard in control decks you should have some sort of value engine that helps offset the cost of one for oneing resources being a net negative for you. Does Grixis have any good examples of this?
shy palm
What is some decent WB ramp?
Making a Scriv the obligator deck
Yes im looking on scryfall with the otag
but i want to some suggestions other than dark ritual and the signets
and sol ring
i also need a win con cause i currently dont have any
manic gazelle
What is some decent WB ramp?
black has urborg+coffers/crypt ghast, white has catchup ramp. And a few one-offs like tithe, monologue tax, and lotho
shy palm
black has urborg+coffers/crypt ghast, white has catchup ramp. And a few one-offs...
what is catch up ramp
manic gazelle
what is catch up ramp
cards that sac lands like [[lotus field]], paired with cards that cheat lands in when you have less lands than your opponents [[Keeper of the Accord]], or cards that return the lands to the battlefield like [[Sevinne's Reclamation]]
hollow latchBOT
Land
Hexproof
This land enters tapped.
When this land enters, sacrifice two lands.
: Add three mana of any one color.
Sorcery
Return target permanent card with mana value 3 or less from your graveyard to the battlefield. If this spell was cast from a graveyard, you may copy this spell and may choose a new target for the copy.
Flashback (You may cast this card from your graveyard for its flashback cost. Then exile it.)
upper basin
What is some decent WB ramp?
[[land tax]]
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manic gazelle
land tax keeps you on curve but not ahead, feels more like a draw spell to me