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Probably
the fact that someone won a gamble doesn't mean you need to go all in
I also had the red Delaware go flat to my Buffalo with 30 seconds to win and throw the game because of it that same match
any of you guys wanna take a guess as to what happened
when the battleship secondaries start shooting at you at a range they should not be shooting at you
Arachnid reports section is needed then
double t6 cv
It does not make me any less frustrated when they get away 
secondery cc was spoted today
CV focus you
I had an Azuma go flat to my Colombo today at 10km and I had the hubris to load AP
I got zero black ribbons
Double T8 CV game (both Kagas) w/ one Nebraska + an Eendracht
LMAO
he lives on 1k HP
(granted, I probably misaimed a little that salvo too)
how much base xp
Hey
Ah, but when you make the same gamerturn, they'll get 5 cits and a devstrike 
With front turrets only
It just do be like that sometimes
WHERE
(I understand that it's confirmation bias, I'm just joking around)
it is yeah
sometimes you just get really good salvoes out of ships that shouldn't
I devstruck a Vladivostok at 14km with a Verdi the other day
noobs are deadly because you cant predict them
always bad dispersion
OK BUT ACTUALLY THOUGH
like dude
had perfect vertical dispersion and got a triple cit
i tried to do a gamer turn in Colbert once cuz i had too
got instanuked
then when a Colbert does it to me this man literally just tanks a full rhode island salvo
ig bro
whats verdi again
I've basically never gotten away with a gamer turn with Atlanta at any range
And people claim she eats overpens all day
I don't get it
She doesn’t
that Italian secondary BB with secondaries that are rubbish
Tier 9 Roma IIRC
Every single time I gamble on overpen in flint/atlanta/san Diego I get nuked
The Bungoing
Na that was a minnesota
we had a slight communication issue with my smokebot
Atlanta has to be almost perfectly flat to use the broadside tech
I am aware
today I got devstruck in Omaha because I dodged five Colorado salvoes in a row and then ate every single shell in the sixth
It still did not work
also any of these usually oneshot you anyways
its... a secondary marco polo, the same bote that devstruck meee 😭
Why Marco Polo?
same
not you too 😭
u should fix that
bro got devstruck by a marco polo? 
because it takes fifteen years to reload and has pretty crap survivability
Someone should make a gif of me exploding in Utrecht in this replay
I get away with going flat so much in Atlanta
It'll be funny
Battleships should not be rolling around with Radar at Tier 8
i think so if i remember. ask @void relic
i still need to get colburrrr
what about radar and 16" guns?

i hope i have the hands
mm so fair a guy in fumie has to fight a musashi
ya ok submarines are still ruining the game
worst shit to be ever introduced cause it wa 100% optional
yet someone decided to double down on it
also, the last game I played in Polo I had the most troll salvo I think I've ever gotten out of BB guns
Every single shell either landed on the furthest left or furthest right side of the dispersion ellipse, probability be dammed
Historically accurate Italian ammunition
Oh, ok I see.
shh you're going to summon the "subs are fun to play against" crowd
and somehow the salvo brackets a fucking Incomparable at 12km
oh don't forget it's 10km radar.
Lock-on bug maybe?
it's like Turret 1 was aiming to the right and Turret 2 was aiming to the left and Turret 3 was generally confused
possible, yeah
landing forward and aft of a broadside target is funny
Hey WandererJester.
And then meanwhile Verdi with what are supposed to be inaccurate guns, got a salvo with probably the best vertical dispersion I've seen all week
I'm spoiled by legmod Moskva
Don't run the build viewer mod
Hitting 7/9 shells on a destroyer 14km away probably should be illegal
there are an alarming number of people that don't know that modules make your ship perform better
just carry harder
aint it fun to see people abandon flank
I'm glad they are playing for fun
I'm really glad
playerbase legit deserves 4501 buff
Or this
Ignore the random Khaba
when you get builds like this it makes you wonder
Also, my god the number of just awful ZH-1 players I've seen
Bad ship + dockyard DD + whales = tragicomedy
and if there are are, they're prob at low tiers
Wait already they are using ZH-1 in Randoms?
Have been
At last I'm not whaling.
zh1 has been in randoms for a long time now
if you whale the dockyard yes
I'm grinding the dockyard.
Oh, I only saw 1 tbh.
I saw one get caught by a Kitakaze at the start of the game and didn't even attempt to smoke
how come i die with my tier 5 dutch cruiser 2 minutes into the battle
Yeah same.
I'll just... not get her
But at last it is my Third Dockyard I finish.
valid
I have zero interest in an airstrike/torpedo car
build viewer and MMM are useless
Probably bc it's the T5 Dutch CL
probably positioning, play carefully until you know where the BBs are
Tromp is a better option if someone really does want that playstyle
ok
thanks
you're out of protected MM at T5, so players are (relatively) better at higher tiers
Hey black_hull.
True.

also worst DD player I've seen in a while?
ill be unicum soon trust
what is my essex cooking
gotta spam.t2
hello good evening
a Black who decided that his reaction to Brisbane radar should be to smoke up to hide from the radar and come to a complete stop in a smokescreen
how the fuck do you not learn how radar works after 2.5k games in Black
I've seen a lot of people like that lately actually
hi
your ship has a radar for fuck's sake
They'll just stop and stay still after getting radared/hydroed
div pad low tier 
I had a Z-52 player just walk up to me and then just sit there and die
(I was in a Lushun)
Saw a ZH-1 do this against Baltimore radar the other day
also, I had that same Black on the red team the next match
he lost a gunfight to a Jager of all ships
Hey David.
Na play anna smoketrain, better for statspaddinf
genuinely how
i dont have the creds 😭
That was this game actually
heyo
You can see the Z just give up completely
10/10 lüshun experts say this is true
the Z-52 has hydro too, does he not understand how it works?
compared to the average DD player I see, yes
Scrapes by, but you’re def probationary (I’m in no position to be saying this)
I saw a Yugumo do the same shit, just come to a complete stop in front of my Kitakaze while lit
Cross-server plague of destroyers not playing the game
this guy cant be real
i need the bands
also he spotted me first, he knew I was there
but he chose to commit death by Kitakaze anyway
A lot of torpedo botes do that
I had a Yamagiri just walk into me two days ago when I was in a Sherman
Like
Why
I saw an Asashio today sail in the exact wrong direction for getting out of Baltimore radar
I will be back later guys, cya.
like, there's an island but no you choose to not use it
He is playing tic tac toe
Yamagiri
There's your answer
Yeah to be fair, most supership players... they certainly do play in very interesting ways
Oh, and I was torping a Montana in my Kitakaze and accidentally got the red Kitakaze as well
yes, the torps were spotted for the Kitakaze by the Montana's face
Clearly they couldn't turn
yeah, he may have been unlucky
also, today I saw a Minnesota somehow manage to monkey push at the start of the game
how
you do 21 knots
can nakhimov be deleted from the game 
Brisk + Sierra Mike
I always put Sierra Mike on the American standards, they can't get anywhere without it
same
hard disagree
Mini-brick is sad
fine
It wasn't that bad of a line when I grinded it
The guns felt like they weren't doing anything
I regret grinding Kansas and FXPing Minnesota
I fxped Kansas
I FXPed the wrong ship
Don't worry, Kansas is genuinely awful
Oh I know
like Picardie-tier awful
don't worry Picardie got buffed
now instead of having no pen, dispersion, or damage you just have no damage
Iowa is what a T9 BB should be
Wyoming is one of my fav BBs, line is good in at least some places before Vermont
...
now the only bad T8 prem BB is Anhalt
I know multiple people who somehow enjoy Anhalt
a stalin cits me through the ass in a salem man wtf
How do you have a 52% winrate on a tier 4?
I've played it myself, it's like being kicked in the balls repeatedly
while also falling asleep
I was going to say whatever that Russian battleship with 356mm guns but I forget that thing is a tier 7 for some reason
damage might be forever cooked tho
Poltava?
I enjoy playing the Emerald, that doesn't make HMS Emerald GOOD
I mean she's terrible but she's not a tier 8 at least
he also has somehow managed to pull California, Yudachi, and Makarov from supercontainers
it's like he's a magnet for terrible ships
...actually yikes
being better than the enemy team in 52% of my games I dunno
why is 52% WR in Wyoming a surprise to you?
yeah except I'd rather just play Nurnberg '44 tbh
No particular reason
Nurn '44 is a cheat code
Elbing AP on a tier 7 cruiser was a decision of all time
I didn't know there WAS a Nurnberg '44, mine is just fine
Same
especially now it has the heal
Nurnberg citadel is really hit-or-miss, I've gotten all overpens with Ashitaka at least once
I like how Mainz and Weimar got heals but Bayard got fucked out of one
broadside Nurnberg
Just Dodge™
To be fair Bayard has like destroyer handling with the engine boost up
doesn't seem like much of an issue ngl
all the Hipper sisters have heals except Weser, right?
playerbase iq seems to be in the negatives, i prepare for some positional battle and enemy team is going underwater in sub 5 min
like
what are we even playing
Welcome to WoWS in 2026
Yes, I happen to own a Bayard and not a Mainz or Weimar so I'm biased a little
There are no more thinking men
subs were recently added and yes, they can go underwater

The Thinking Man's Action Game (thinking optional)
I am well aware
also can i get a battle with t8 ships
Giving Mainz a heal was... a Decision
dunno what you mean by recently atp
like do these battles even exist
yes, play T6
The thing is insanely tanky now
a few years ago, not that long
barely yesterday
Should I commit the sin of trading in Salem for Mainz?
Do you play Salem often?
idk I have mainz and I barely touch it
Yes
Then no
but I'll also get DM soon
im so fucking tired
She's a pretty basic standard farmer
I will regrind hipper soon
I mean, apparently Hipper got one too so Mainz would be sorta left out. Weser doesn't count because she's a CV
There's not that much difference between playing Weimar and Mainz IMO
And you can get Weimar in the trade-in as well
you have to spam consumables instead of just being there
It's more engaging in that sense, yes
also, how many doubs will WG likely want to trade a T9 for a T8?
1650
I did the math
Mostly because I'm getting rid of Kearsarge one way or another
well fuck me dead, 100-ish doubs short of being able to dump Iwami for Mainz/Weimar
not sure if I would actually want to but I like having the option
90 set on fires done. Quite a few Hawaii battles that took
If you have the spare cash, IMO just buy whatever the minimum amount of dubs is for that
Unless you really like Iwami I suppose
I don't really, pretty boring ship as far as BBs go
Or you can just trade her for Weimar for free
oh true Weimar is T7
One question guys.
When playing with a Light Cruiser and Heavy Cruiser you need to choose carefully the enemy ship to shot?
Target selection is important in any ship
some random hannover saved me from a 0 damage game W
I see.
today I saw a hannover with a 6pt captain thanks for reminding me of that
gn
gn
Have a good night and nice sleep.
Now I'm just ruining my stats 
oh and T9 MM is pretty bad these days so I'm less inclined to play T9 BB
With all honesty guys.
like why play Iwami when I could play say Kii and get the same experience more or less without experiencing T9 MM
I'm happy that I'm slowly getting better with different tipe of ships and also learning a lot of different things from you guys also.
i honestly dont think T9 MM is that bad
your ship more or less can deal with most T10s and T11s to some degree
T6s vs T8 or T7 vs T9 is a much larger troll
legitimately P. Heinrich vs Musashi
lmao
Lenin vs New Mexico
even more lmao
like a big part of the reason I think T9 MM is fine is also because
or T6 cruisers lol
and then you get T5
the fuck is a New Mexico doing against like baltimore for example
load HE and pray
On the other hand, Valparaiso is T9
dude DM pen at t8 feels so cracked u can randomly cit BBs at close range
you can do that at t10
ergo, you are most likely to encounter it at T9
yea but u gotta be practically inside the bb
and i think some bbs u still cant but im not sure
T9 vs T10/T11 is fine
T8 vs T9/T10 is also fine imo
T8s can def uptier well
no T7 is uptiering well against a T9
guys did they buff Baltimores speed?
yeah, T7 into 9 and 6 into 8 is tragic
What is your opinion guys of Bridgeport?
No?
Well I want her tbh as I didn't finished the Liberty Harbor.
Anyone know about active EU discord servers were people chill and div up?
The thing about Bridgeport is that while it has MBRB and better conceal; it's main gimmick (at least imo) was the fact it had a heal over Baltimore. However, with the new update, Baltimore has Radar + Hydro + Heal, which is a much more workable loadout ykyk
it's good but like
it had the upside of heal
but also if I play a T9 BB, if there's a Valp in the game it is more likely to be on red team
now it's irrelevent
I see.
i feel like they should give it the salem superheal
and I still have flashbacks to steel will
you could honestly justify bridgeport because it had better conceal + the heal, MBRB is an afterthought
yea the heal was big
I honestly think I would play Bridgeport guys.
is it better conceal than balti?
but now that Balti has one just play Balti
As I still didn't used my Baltimore.
9.3 vs 9.9 fully built
u can just play balti
as someone who played Balti today
it's similar playstyle but overall better
interesting
I would play also Baltimore.
too be fair the Bridgeport also has a sickass look
i mean balti conceal is already really good
Idk what class bridgeport is but i love her superstructure
Yeah.
It has stealth radar which is really funny
Oregon City-Class.
shocking 0.1km stealth radar
can i see a t8 ship PLEASE
The one between Baltimore-Class and Des Moines-Class.
*technically, 9.9km conceal and 10km radar
really good look ngl
the conceal diff doesn't matter much
spotted radaring
works with 0,1km diff and 2km diff
yeah
yeah, it's mostly a factoid
i just find it funny it TECHNICALLY has a stealth radar
2km is way harder to escape though
the same way ochakov TECHNICALLY has a stealth radar
(ochakov however is dogshit)
yo wait a minute ochakov finally got survivability
massive?
(that said I was playing Buffalo and I had a DD in the 500m conceal gap when I tried to radar him)
oh wait Chapayev still exists
When are they gonna buff tulsa dude
they did a moment ago
but if I was walking at him then I'd probably would have caught him
DD dispersion rah
Yeah I agree, I also like a lot the camouflage of Bridgeport the Black Stern and Bow, Blue and Grey in the middle part.
Buffalo is much better so what's the point of Tulsa
They should at least make it a sidegrade
My mayor regret was taking a break during Liberty Harbor tbh guys.
At the very least give it usable range
breaks are needed and at the end the day; this is a game yk
i just find it funny that shit like Tulsa exist in the same space as Kronshtadt, Alaska, Cambridge, etc
Tulsa does have slightly more DPM when using front guns only, 206k vs 180k but also man 14.9 range is not great
Buffalo has like 30k more base dpm than tulsa i think
I'd rather just play Buffalo
yes, however, Tulsa has better dispersion 
And then it's hard to slot reload mod on tulsa cuz of the shit range
I agree at 100% on it, but yeah I really wanted to get Bridgeport during that event.
lower range radar too
rudder slot 5 Tulsa ong
I mean Liberty Harbor.
and then you'd just play Buffalo then because reload mod Buffalo DPM > range mod Tulsa DPM
with all guns yeah
i mean yeah
i think if they gave it 15.8 range like the rest of the US CAs it would be pretty good
like why is Tulsa reload and range just slightly gimped compared to DM, which it is supposed to have the same guns as
agreed
how about we buff the shit that is GK
that'd actually be pretty funny
And thanks SymboliRudolf, Cirzoo and TheTorukMakto for before.
Watch your team all go middle of two brothers
is it true wows struggle to implement ASW on dutch ships
i just always tohught it was on purpose
who knows
given how bad Wilhem's ASW is, probably
they use the same base code 
it's the same weapon and L word coded it in some way so

ultimately we just dog nose
but i also actually kind of like the fact that dutch ships dont have airstrikes ASW
was stalin accuracy nerfed or something

i cant hit shit
Gizmo hasn’t said anything here today 🤔
despite aim being on point
meanwhile leeuw with BB manuverability and cruiser homing on ship based ASW
no but you dont get it
this map
T9 MM oppresses them more
let them have one victory..
I legit hope that the person that designed two brothers
never designs a map
ever
again
👍
two brothers is not this bad
oops all sunset isles
gg
true
ok but legitimately idk why some people complain about the dutch not having ASWs
waa waa waa i already have decent guns w/ good AA and bullshit airstrikes; why dont i become the master of all 3 platforms
yeah bro
24C isn't that much of a problem
depends on humidity
Hey Hot_Potato_Gruel.
Because needing to melee a sub in your Leeuw is very fun trust
*with humidity
funny sub fidget spinning you at 6km
like actually
Australia here, it can get up to 45c on a bad day
remove two brothers
in Taiwan, where i live (taipei) we usually get 32-35C right
but then it nukes us with 80%+ humidity
now, granted, it's summer and break and I'm living in the Western Ghats, where it's much nicer
Oh, also this are pretty much all the american ships I have TheTorukMakto and SymboliRudolf.
suddenly not very 32C feeling
Yeah.
I'm glad I'm not up in the tropics though
because I would not stand a 40C day with 80% humidity
Coming from this hellscape, this feels amazing
But yeah this is currently all of what I have a paart still grinding some lines.
sometimes Taipei has hit 100% humidity
thankfully this never really happens at 30+C
but it sure feels really awful even at 27=28C
Allo Andrea
Also I'd have to live in Queensland and share a state with Queenslanders if I wanted to be in the tropics
or Darwin but there's fuckall people living there
Before that, it was Kuwait
like, imagine if Texas and Florida had a baby and drank during the pregnancy
that's Queensland
But are the people who live there just as nuts
no, no it is not
idk i feel like dry heat is bearable
As the people in those states
the humid air is NOT bearable
Yes
i mean Taiwan is subtropical
the thing is like
other nations like India has flashy 45C temperatures but isnt that usually dry
because its pretty common for us to get 35-36C but then anywhere between 80-90% humidity so it ends up feeling.. 40C+ anyway
and a 45C dry heat is also pretty bad
not to mention with july soon coming we get to experience humid heat w/ a little typhoon and thundershowers
most avg last 3 people alive (they never left this area lmao)
like, try not to go outside bad
dry 40C is not pleasant in the slightest either
yeah but the body is more built to cool down during that
theres a reason you dont go out in the mornings or at night
because 35C w/ even 60% humidity (which is expected) is at minimum 45C on the heat index (and bodies do not regulate temperature well)
sometimes hits 80% humidity, which is literally above 50C in terms of a heat index
it's 68k, you round up
ok?
Should I save coal for USS Black DD-666?
come back when you get 69,420 damage
No you'll get Ocean
casts two borthers
okinawa
Your team will still go up the middle
no it does not bro 😭
????!!??
it does
Or no?
no
Ocean on Sejong or Jinan is just not it
these dockyard missions are so grindy that I became a pve warrior
Try Ocean on Austin
bc gameplay provided by two brothers is sitting in two corridors and throwing shit at angled BBs
oh and you can't do anything else
maybe support the other side?
oh wait
nope
not allowed
you are stuck in the corridor that you can't push
at the same time cruisers and shit still get a chance on two brothers
and you will like it
not many cruisers play well on ocean
islands on two brothers are not even abusable by cruisers 99% of the time
perhaps true
And you'll inevitably have a teammate go up the middle and die
ngl i go up the middle every single time
or carry the game
you just gotta be smart about it

typhoon you say
man I love 2 brothers
like what the fuck they gonna do against an Incomp or Saint Vincent sitting in the middle lmao?
cope?
or a Des Moines
Most fun I had on Two Brothers was devstriking a valp in the middle channel
or a Petro
vro ok
i had a crazy game with DM on that map
two brothers is ass
tutorial on how to enjoy the game while doing other things around the house
when are they going to buff ship fighter planes? its the most useless consumable. they need to make the range the plane can fly larger
works on 2 brothers too
its so asymetrical in terms of positioning
like southside ALWAYS pushes west
and northside ALWAYS pushes east
just due to how the islands are arranged
premium ships ALWAYS push mid
playing Atlanta on two brothers into T9 is rage-inducing
they buffed them somewhat recently xd
why did you change profile picture
@lucid wagon
That was 7 years ago old man
good player vs bad player in middle
ye bro
Times change
map is fun
😭
the libertad was a bit dented
great map
or maybe that's an understatement
wtf
ikr
i somehow managed to block secondaries with the island and shoved AP into him
what'd they buff? the base number of consumables? whats the point in buffing them if they dont do anything lmao
average lib player
genuinely hilarious how they also kept feeding you
one or two shiki volleys were enough
i dont think i stopped shooting once in that game lmao
what boat good for brawl
Should I buy Black?
I just witnessed my Slava do 0 dmg to broadside Sibir at 13km
is that good?
well not 0
if that Slava were u
but not a single cit was found
that GK was hilariously dented i sat flat to him cuz he only shot HE
EU players bro
idk the 20~ or so matches ive played on Eu either turned into kiting simulator immediately
or them doing the most idiotic push ever
be more like NA; be dumb
Are you sure you didn't accidentally play on Asia?
that libertad tho genuienly
i was shooting the yodo cuz i knew i was dead
figured might as well trade
it stayed perfectly bow on no wonder it did nothing
and then ram the libertad
Hey joebob.
but for some reason didnt ram and it worked out
this and the island also blocked the secondaries
With what ship? Just for know.
Libertad player not realising that he needs to angle for secondaries because haha funni ai gunner boat
he should have just ran it down and got my broadside
secondaries are cruise control
you still have to fuckin steer
but like bro
Libertad has 419mm
at that close range he gets nuked either way
the secondaries nuke him either way
Unfortunately the average libertad player can't even manage that
the part where 419 overmatches DM is so small
like 44% or something
.. the entire bow?
I can definitely understand him missing that
I've seen lib miss on both sides of me at that range
they both fought bow in the entire time
especially using only 4 guns
nah he missed cuz only front guns and dispersion
RNG could have said fuck you but didn't
Oh, ok I saw.
yeah but if the Libertad just accepted going slightly broadside (hes guaranteed dead either way if he stays bow in and gets farmed)
he wouldve won
or had a chance of winning
and he nearly did either way lmao
if lib went flat broadside it wins
With all honesty guys.
because the secondaries out-DPM DM
I don't like Libertad.
this is what happens when you invent a ship that plays half the game for you
we carried the shit out of that game
nobody does tbh
i love valpa
went middle and fucked everything
with F key and captain proc, the secondaries have more HE DPM than a DM has AP DPM
balans
Feels bad man💔
surprised he got 246k when i did so much damage
DM has hydro
it can control vision
fr?
yes
i didnt even know that
the F key buffs the alpha to 5k
and the reload gets under 5s
btw this is more than a 15" HE shell
anyone know how i can check builds in wows toolkit
Yeah and the lib could have just done literally anything except role-playing a DM against a DM and won
I honestly prefer more use my main guns instead of letting the AI do it for myself.
yep
i think if i was in a salem i would have won anyway
but in DM i should have died
why is it that in the most overpowered shit; they still somehow discover a way to lose
bc
i once won against valparaiso in nephune at 7km 
Wargaming invents a potato-proof ship and the universe invents a bigger potato
Hence, teammates
to be so bad tho
like in Atago another example is i won a battle against a full health KGV.. at 2.9k health
i spammed so much alaska to counter valpas in one of the previous ranked sessions
cuz of how bad the players are
they just go flat
na but valpa cit is still like
you get trolled by bc dispersion and they get away with it
cuz umazing valpa
dorifto gaming
also valp with UFO handling doesn't help
BB with cruiser rudder and DD accel
you catch him broadside and he turns out before your shells land
very balans
because why not
like Valparaiso and Libertad are built for literal amoeba-intelligence players to win in
all they have to do to balance valpa is cuck the handlign
and they still discover how to die
with alaska u get multiple cits every volley
and it can cit at like 10km
and close range with the pen angles u just shit on him
40k Alaska Salvo of doom on a Schlieffen
Just remove it from the game entirely, the salt from valp players will be legendary
actually unreal
It's funny as shit seeing Libertad, Sniffen, and even Valparaiso players fail so hard in Asymmetric Battles.
That mode is a BB circle jerk and these guys still screw it up.
is valpa still a t10 tho after the nerf
the fact that Valparaiso can just react on command makes it much harder to citadel said player 8/10 times imo
yes
Now
like sure yes technically it has a Vanguard citadel
But anyway should I save coal for Moskva Black guys?
yes, just marginally less idiot proof
i feel the nerf at least was pretty noticable
too bad you need them to literally sit perfect broadside and not turhn
the nerf barely existed
Is Valpa less painful to play against after the nerf
Hey HazeGrayUnderway.
hi there
For what ship?
wasnt it a pretty big heal nerf
1/6 of the heal
Valpy
and 10% cit repair instead of 33%
main nerf was 33% -> 10% citade
but you didn't take cits
the 1/6th heal nerf means nothing to me
which only affects bad valp players
that only matters for idiots and i guess torps
fortunately, they do exist
nah
torps you just eat on the bow
I'd say the 20% heal nerf
i did feel less survivable tho
the 20% heal nerf feels like it changed nothing
like it was easier to burst me down
i played 10 games and.. played the exact same way as I always di in Valp
and also u run through heals much faster
with like 0 active thought
🤔
Oh, ok.
it did fuck over everything anyway tho
idk the entire nerf just feels pretty lackluster
i just think Valparaiso shouldve kept the heal factors
Right now my Valparaiso is a Port Queen tbh SymboliRudolf.
it is a nerf and they do die more often
but it still plays the same way
What's the window between valp conceal and valp secondaries again?
does AP against a broadside Provorny work? Like does it eat full AP pen since its a german hull?
like 0.2km lmao
flat? only DDs
yeah.
and some will overpen
Regarding DD.
Is usually better use for the major HE and SAP if is italian right guys?
saw a Fenyang against Provorny and would think Fenyangs AP would smash Provorny since it was flat broadside to the Fenyang
that it would
its actually only 1.1km
but either way
youre not getting out in time
fun
What ship is Fenyang?
you don't even want to use HE in that case because it has 25mm side plating
and fenyang doesn't pen that
akizuki with heavy AP and deep water torps
good ship
which ship
also no 30mm pen on the HE so your HE is tragic
Oh, nice.
guess
we do a lil 
two devstrikes so brick
lenin
My one of question was more general tbh TheTorukMakto.
Is the Zieten good, or am I just good in the Zieten lol
devstriking ipi is funny
I agree.
players in ranked might be 
like holy shit silver ranked is
I mean playing pozarsky is your first clue
actual nightmare
shush
i only play ranked when i can sync drop with about 3 other people
and im playing Sibir in sunset isles
im fucking killing myself
i hate sunset isles
whats the difference between Harekaze and Harekaze 2?
I'm just curious, what is your favourite ship in game? @lucid wagon @prisma hull
unironically Hector
Salem
although most of the US heavies are pretty good tbh
Des Moines AP has to be like the best AP in the game bro fr
Actually alaska AP better hmmmm
Who tf even plays hector
I was chunking a Delaware for 10k a salvo with Buffalo AP because his hangar arms my AP lmao
Oh, nice I like a lot Salem.
does anyone by any chance have any advice for how to get this one?
I dont think ive seen a single hector in the last 1000 games
me
Hector of what nation is as I don't remember?
Play a dd and try to be close to the enemy
Nice.
Commonwealth
That might be the same number of games as me in salem lmao
Battles: 458
Wins: 59.39% (272/186/0)
Survival: 34.50% (158/300)
Base EXP: 1 409
Damage: 96 596
Kills: 1.14
Aircraft: 4.36
Spotted: 0.35
Scouting: 20 287
Potential: 1 211 979
Base EXP: 3 573
Damage: 330 975
Kills: 7
Aircraft: 53
Spotted: 5
Scouting: 109 857
Potential: 3 221 000
Main Battery: (442/7/39.59%)
Secondaries: (8/2/12.97%)
Torpedoes: (0/0/-)
Depth Charges: (0/0/-)
Aircraft: (9/1/-)
Rams: (0/0/-)
(technically Australian iirc, but it's paper so doesn't really matter)
Thanks.
play chung mu?
or yy
I like DM, San Martin and Worcester
SUNSET ISLES BLOWOUT CENTRAL
how tf does it work though? like what does it mean
Lmao
FUCK THIS SHITTY ASS MAP
I have her also her sister ship Salem.
U gotta be the one spotting the ships that ur team is shooting at
you literally cannot make this up
yo whats up my homeslice breadslice dawgs
ive done that though
also q since I just got Buffalo - should I play it like Balti/Salem and take reload or take range and play like a kite cruiser
If ur team damages a ship being spotted by you u get spotting damage
what is the sneakiest sub line
no
Play it like DM
But try to use back turrets

U never play open water unless ur forced to
ocean is the best map
so HEAT officially launches tomorrow
gotcha, being balti plus a stern turret feels a little weird
It plays like balti/dm the only difference is the 2 turrets in the back

in Moskva
Weimar

