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have you seen the people celebrating after finishing gaokao
and let's have a proper brawl
its like a relief
do bad on the GSAT and AST and youre fucked for awhile
Caught a Willian de ee whatever it is called broadside, big mistake
i have SAT gaming next year
Too much propaganda 
istg
I have SAT gaming in a few weeks
we have thptqg here ( equivalent to gaokao )
I honestly only remember gaokao because arknights used to release songs when they were being held as a "good job" song
I thought brawl was meant so braindead "brawl meta" can actually play
max score is 30 and anyone who has like 23+ gets a good school or sth
another path is V-ACT which max at 1200, 900+ is considered decent
But heavily depends on how difficult the test would be
One question guys.
you'd infer that the nation with the most severe standard test would be South Korea
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Waking up feelingย alone
a lot of you have done it
but no more than I have done,
(I lost count of it)
Tryin...
just because of how many students there kill themselves
Good song ngl
Theres another one iirc
Brawl feels like WG gave all the boats cocaine
What the amount of point for a Commander to have for Yorktown, Cleveland and Benson?
What tier is it anyway
because people would go such lengths
8
10 minimum
Welp, dont have much t8 boats
Thanks.
I mean overall would you say that the way academics work in Asia is 'good' or 'better' then the Western world; i dont think so
no
omg sure we get some high points in intelligence at the downside of a SHIT ton of suicides
lmao
we just have different approach in education
The western tempt to go slow with high school and under
Game discussion truly
I dont know why but it seems like wg hate me so much that they 10/10 brawl haft of my team afk and give free kill.
Velos has better reload but only by a bit
I think our approach in education is fundamentally wrong
but ig
the torps on halford are better than velos
it's just people bringing dead weight ships and other people kiting instead of brawling
If it works it works 
my next coal ship
has it worked though?
at least i know some cases people would do some risky acts
Hey is there a way to check how the camo looks?
Not gonna say much but it very bad to feel after a very long day and this happend
look for the camos in the current event
We're getting close to finding the 9th planet of the solar system
warhammer tab in armory
from a Viet
its more mental things i think bc of the stress and disappointment
because
I got 666k coal and no idea what to buy
we put a lot of attention in it
Apart from Vietnam; all the countries we talked about
are in demographic crisis
in part due to education and worse living among youth like us
you can also add on South Korea and Japan if you want which are very similar
you're sacrificing childhood for "better future"
spoting damage is so... annoing...
just play in randoms 
randoms are scawy
50k?
yes
You play DD in pvp or you struggle
me when I w key in ops in a random car and get 200k spotting
like i technicly got above 60k before in coop. but its so inconsistent and annoing
Yeah
okay so you would rather pick the annoying one more?
Humanity will end up like the dinosaurian civilisation of late cretacean. Nature is healing
That's just true
true
did the same, got only 50k (need 100k if ops), returned with 250hp
@tawdry turret Btw of the 5 countries we talked about; Taiwan, South Korea, Japan, China, and Vietnam; only my country (Taiwan) and South Korea have reached below 1 fertility rate. As for China, its at 1, Japan 1.2, and Vietnam is just SLIGHTLY below replacement rate
Taiwan and South Korea do not recover from that type of collapse

how did we go from exams to fertililty
I do not know
It's gonna be different in ASIA then
because its important
i rather not ruin other peoples games just beacouse i run around like a goose (also i am short on credits so most of my ships that kinda wuld be up for the job, no have any modules.)
i mean well exams are a large part in reason as to why its so fucked rn
do you TWs have like
High school entrance exams too?
Truly a game discussion about wows
if u save more kids you get more people to play wows

^
Tfym save more kids
and more recruitments for me
Think of it this way; As a young child, you are told that if you do not perform well on GSAT/AST, Gaokao, or the other standard tests; you will fail in life as you will not get into a good university. Not to mention for highschooling; you have to take CAP as a 9th grader. Idk what China does for highschool but, I know they do it.
To make sure your child has the ability to get good scores, you must put them into tutoring, cram schools, extracurriculars, etc. All very expensive, and the child's life revolves around academics only, so they're not very happy (and I wasn't as well.)
Say that child then makes it to adulthood with a good job; the economics of getting housing still suck. And they know raising a child in that type of system sucks. Less likely to start a family, less likely to have a child. Not to mention its super competitive to get a good job anyways no matter.
does that sound like a good system?
yeah
my condolences
sounds like my life...
Back in vn i still rmb i get like bazillion extra classes every night
the Asian Academic system specializes in creating highly intelligent workers at the cost of demographic
Like school ends at 5pm and i would be home at around 9
We should really talk about it in a discord gc before the mods raid us
The mods are 
The reality of that, as seen in many western countries, is a declining national IQ. Quite frankly seems like they are changing the tests and fiddling with numbers to bury it, like, why shouldnt methodological and knowledge base education and upbringing not lead to happy and intelligent people, right? Edit: dont have kids if your smart... or stuck in poorly paid science and technology jobs, unless your in such professions because of psychological deviations.
Honestly, this happened to me a lot too
I didnt get home until 8 during highschool
Here we go, wish me luck.
My schedule in HS was fucked
wait invite meeeee
tier 9 to tier 5s
They didn't invite me too

what do you mean by "why shouldnt methodological and knowledge base education and upbringing not lead to happy and intelligent people"

we're cool toooo
Happy and intelligent people are rare
^
Usually the intelligent but not happy ppl
Having both at the same time is an oddity if anything
huh
the mission to play specific ships isn't working ggreds
not repeatable
Try removing mods
Like, play vanilla
What bug?
Camera bug
my parents are like
the perfect showcase of this
theyre super smart like whatever got mega rich rare jobs
both are depressed
nope, nopety nope can't play randoms its scawy
Play randoms
I think I'm not in a good position.
well what ship is it
Cleve
ur fine
yeah
i tried low tier but failed miserably T-T why is it the only ship i can play in randoms is monty. and not even that well.
ur not dead
All you can really do is peek a bit then reverse back in that flank
reverse and shoot from the other side
thats why you play more to get better
well i would radar kill dd
if you just make an effort to get better; you are fine
then peek other side
what ship is that
hmm
cleveland brown
yea if u can catch the dd kill it first
Cleve's not too bad but that flank can't really do well for her
i do not want to. i am here to have fun and not be sweating and calculating tactics
You have way too much tall islands
I dont think that view is necessarilly correct
but i get it
tbh you should have went where ur DD currently is
that's like the only usable island
(i am tired of pvp in general)
honestly that entire map is just dogshit
At some no point, you just tune out and get into a groove with the game where you don't need to think and just play on auto
there are so many fucking maps that just entirely fuck over cruisers
And still do well
its not even funny
OMG
trueeee
Tears of the Desert, Okinawa, Ocean, Two Brothers (im gonna admit i do think this is the case)
The cruiser position is on the south or hell, even mid outside of the islands covering cap
spawning on a sub flank
two brothers is bad yeah
tears of desert is awful
2 bros is comedic relief
okinawa is somewhat livable
because of the mid
Generally kind of awful to play as a cruiser there
prior to the Okinawa rework (which i still think it didnt help); I forget if it was C flank, i think so, buit C flank old Okinawa was literally UNPLAYABLE of youre a cruiser that relies on islands or cover
if it was A flank well you get my point
these two spots are pretty good
i would just run A flank
East, there are no island cover
West, it's literally too far in the flank to provide any support value because the cap is still too open
Northern Lights west spawn if you're not in a kiting cruiser
two brothers lowkey works if u go middle
imma just like. play normaly and hope for luck. i hate this
have had some banger games in DM/Salem in the middle
oh shut up.
put a 4501 or archerfish over there for maximum cringe
yeah for certain cruisers it works
but overall its not a good map
the flank is now completely dead
like i love running it down in two brothers but it just isnt a good map
nothing useful will happen there

why do you play so far from island
-# must be an operation player
@tawdry turret @untold thistle oh yeah i also uniquely discovered i just straight up suck at Jinan somehow
i bombed my two NA account PRs in it as well
wheres MY ping
-# (im a coop player.)

you havent ever seen me play Jinan bro
For have the possibility to fire over them at last.
huh...
Oh, yeah I forget.
I did that.
still, i can imagine what happens 
on the map it looks like ur quite far from it
i have almost 1k coop battles, and only 18 random battles.
if there were ships playing the flank and u were spotted you'd be dead
i will never understand coop players
but hey, you can still get good shit.
its just less painfull than doing randoms
these are my Jinan stats btw
this existed at the same time as uhh
it's literally the exact same scenario every time
Oh, ok my bad sorry Cirzoo.
ok my stats in general are worse than this ๐ญ
there's 0 challenge how do you enjoy that
only thing that sucks is that its more resource consuming. boosters burn up brrrrrrrr
these two were the same session by the way
lmao
wait lemme fetch my sejong
But at last it didn't went that bad.
I hope.
okay i eep
Have a good night.
I will use them next time and thank.
but who is going to devstrikes my counterparts
gn :)
i dunnoo
gn
What you guys think?
im the umazing des mo player
who eats archerfish peeds on two brothers east flank

STRONGEST TIER 8 WARRIOR
anhalt ๐ฅ
MY stats are beautiful
C island is the only good position on this map for a cruiser im not gonna lie
5 pr
we need more maps for bb only
CA/CL must be unplayable
If I keep doing praatice I will get better with cruiser right guys?
we need mapbans like in wot, so we can rule out maps we dont wanna play
yea
"but this will effect que times"
i would genuinely give up all my accounts to never play Sunset Isles again
and we know that wg dont want longer ques
i hate the map that much
tears of the desert
its peak
my favorite
sunset is peak
called delete the game
peak if you only play radar cruisers, USN farming cruisers
lmao
that one video never came out ๐
i mean no?
oh yeah :(
pretty much tho the left island on A also works if ur team doesnt implode immediately
never trust team
The entire map design of Sunset isles is just quite bad, in my opinion. It is a literal blowout central in every single game i've played due to the way spotting and capping works on that entire map
so no it doesnt work xd
is this not facts
honestly in practice it works pretty often
I donโt sympathize with ppl like u
i got 1.5k base exp on a lose in mino ๐ฅ
ok
im gonna crash out dude
I just dont like sunset isles
im either getting camera bugged or getting actual apes on my team
I donโt like you
ok
loss rate maxxing
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@real meadow @plush smelt If is needed I have the rendering of the battle.
shouldve went on the left
tho it still looks ok idk why ur not getting any damage
and u randomly come out to 3 bbs towards the end
The end was my mistake.
there wasn't much to shoot except at the end ngl
lunches spoter "I'm using hydrosonic serch!" 3 seconds into battle
the damage on the flank was Poomern and Bismark and they both fled to spawn 5min in
@real meadow this means am going good right ๐ฅ
as soon as your akatsuki lays that smoke in the cap that's your opening to take a few shots from the smoke and then run out to the wide angle where you have similar amount of cover but a much lower island that you can relentlessly fire over
your position is pretty much ok, if anything i would've turned so that your bow is pointed more towards the pommern and just accept you're not using the rear turrets in exchange for keeping the front turrets active more consistently, then as soon as you see that smoke go up that's your window
correct
I will next time and thanks zuiKatsu and Cirzoo.
generally you can't get teammates to lay smokes for you (when not in div i would never expect them to do so, and generally when im playing farming cruisers i tell DDs to just save smokes for themselves)
but if your teammate does lay a smoke taking advantage of it is usually a good idea
esp in a cruiser like cleveland
Why doesn't Wargaming add negative karma? That would be better. I think this system is totally pointless. It would be better if you could get negative karma. I'm so tired of players giving me a negative rating as soon as things go wrong for them. So as far as I'm concerned, I'd rather have -1000 than 20+.
realy usless system. its a lots of angry player in this game
curious coincidence strikes again
my karma is ๅ also ๆญป
You get the occasional Gearing player who just gives you a smoke unprompted
Very rare though, yes
I see and yeah I agree.
Back when I played DM obsessively, one in every 4 or 5 non-divved Gearings just give you a smoke
i play DM obsessively 
I tried again today
play mino instead
jesus

not a good day
Today was mostly a good day actually
i prefer salem 
It was specifically DM that went poorly
with DM its easy for it to go poorly due to overmatch and stuff
Also maps fuck over DM a lot
Moskva can play open water a lot more effectively
idk my salem works 24/7
thankfully in div u never get it so i never have to play it
If I want to play more dynamically I pick up a destroyer
@plush smelt 
i reset the line and never ended up getting mino again :P
my carry bote is RIB
valparaiso is still mindlessly overpowered ๐
bc its just a big yoshino
I mean I have that too
and confederate is easy
Hm
carry in shima and gunboat
nowadays same
the strength of salem is other than 30mm overmatch BBs you can straight up walk into everyone and guarantee out-trade them
I disagree
tho des moines is still nuts
moskva you can't just like waltz into a hindenburg for example if they're not stupid
salem is just comfy to play
i still use the AP tho
salem kinda outtrades every cruiser in a 1v1
even more if u also are good at the game
i play prekited and then once i can push i push
I will admit I've never seen a Hindenburg in my last 20 Moskva games
salem outtrades most non-30mm ovm BBs too
theres like 1-2 it doesnt
As in she plays more like a Marseille than a Yoshino
even overmatchers if person plays it right
Yoshino can't shove at all
its outragously good at bullying cruisers
Marseille wants to shove when you get the chance
truge
Alright, this is not bad.
the superheal also allows it to trade itself into shitters like colombo and libertad
trap is good for CLs
you can arc a lot of islands
i think
Libertad wins because Libertad
tho the true terror is when desmoines/salem gets a match with no 27mm overmatch
Colombo depends on if you get a 1v1
press W into the whole enemy team and win
not many tbh, if u get A flank its cooked
Bullying Bourg has never been more fun
yea but u pump so much damage into it that you end up trading

True that
nuh uh not with the new dispersion on cc
i hate Des Moines specifically wehn im playing Republique
Imagine
repub can kill dm pretty reliably
True.
tho if the liber is bad you can win
hahahahahahahahahahahahaha 32 mm IS PUNY
But yeah Moskva IMO has a lot fewer counters than DM generally
Shouldn't you love DM specifically because of the overmatch
i can pen 34
itsj ust because of one game
where i got ambushed by a Des Moines
It's basically just Hindenburg, Libertad and the occasional Goliath
and went from 55k health to 0 in all of about
our shima is about to MEGA carrty
30 seconds
bro is gonna get solo worrior
my best Republique game btw
a well played DM hard carries tho
me like AP
moskva is saved from overmatch

with des mo i need to use brain
Also apparently I've completely forgotten about how DM plays so there's that too 
...
Shnose
how hard can it be

snass
This hard
it ruined my best Republique game
43k over 3 battles is diabolical
i need to see replays cuz how tf
Ok, nevermind I was in a bad position.
Republique is truly miserable
To be fair though, one of those games I got super fucked over by my team and the other I got fucked over by the enemy carrier and Louisiana
every single time i play Republique there most be at least one Bremen
who is also above 55% wr
Yumihari got me.
why are u there
wait why am i not #8 Stalingrad 
have you played it recently
And also stupid to don't move out before.
Check number of required games
up there with the greats like g4ng
80, I have 88
you generally need to play a game to get updated on leaderboard
Hm
Oh, huh.
Well, time to go get absolutely destroyed ig 
ie. there's some natural pr movement as the expected values change, but you don't get force updated unless you play the ship
I still have a lot to learn regarding cruiser.
doubt
150IQ Supergenius that learns everything at
possible in rts cv days but not nowadays
no
if it's unachievable even for the best of the best...
you must have belief
150 iq is normal...
!
in what world is 150iq normal
What
there just arent ships that have that much match impact now
Alright.
in the dream world my parents want me to live in 
Time to find a island.
ima go do a few warmup games cause god I don't remember how stalingrad feels 
sit the D 8/9 island
Doctor, astronaut and engineer at 19
They already probably exist
you can arc it
there is a few
and then move E10
Some gamer who rerolled and only plays carrier divs
but they're RTS CV players like Zuikaku said
yeah
Alright.
i said solo
Oh
Do I get heavy AP here?
Then not anymore I think
solo is probably only RTS CV players
no other ships have that much match impact to be able to force 80% of games
i feel like the theoretical maximum is low 70s
I would do that
ive seen like a few actual solo 70% players
Makes the captain usable for Petro as well
but theyre always rerolls over like 1-2k games at maximum
Also slot gun feeder
El2 got that for the enterprise after the rework iirc
what even is a good baseline to measure solo wr over how many games
90 days is good I think
no i mean
my wording was bad
how many games to get an actually good sample size to rate it
100 isnt enough
200-400?

i think thats moderately reliable at bestr
Oh you mean in total? Iโd suggest 5-700
70% should be very much achievable for a few individuals in select high impact ships
hell, maybe even I could do it in a few ships 
I would personally argue that this is enough proof that someone is a unicum gamer for example (provided there aren't 300 T-22 games or something equally absurd)
i mean yeah i guess
Therefore, 400 games is probably enough proof
T22 mentioned
rah
is it just me or is Bismarck 41 secondary stats off? on ship stats website
The manual mode has higher DPM
is that entirely solo?
Yes, ranked
ah, ranked is a diff story imo
But if you want to see solo random
because it's a smaller team size and each player has more game impact
Battles: 47
Wins: 76.60% (36/11/0)
Survival: 44.68% (21/26)
Base EXP: 1 656
Damage: 83 164
Kills: 1.45
Aircraft: 7.66
Spotted: 0.49
Scouting: 20 238
Potential: 765 330
Base EXP: 2 709
Damage: 181 538
Kills: 4
Aircraft: 41
Spotted: 4
Scouting: 84 411
Potential: 1 781 832
Main Battery: (44/4/38.96%)
Secondaries: (0/0/-)
Torpedoes: (0/0/-)
Depth Charges: (0/0/-)
Aircraft: (11/2/-)
Rams: (0/0/-)
I wonder if 180k+ dmg consistently, at solo, is possible. There are those who already manage 150k-160k solo across most ships, and i feel like that is already the limit
like what are the theoretical maximums of this g ames stats
I'm understanding slowly more about cruiser guys.
oof I missed my lil cruiser
like the question was, is there a player with 80% solo wr
yeah but i mean on this website it shows the reload as being 4.5-9.1s but thats entirely wrong. my bismarck 41 without any mods, commanders or flags show it as 2.7-5.5s of reload
in the right ships, yes
180k totally possible
across a variety of ships
you also want to play at specific times of day
like no shit in one ship like C. Colombo you can manage 180k consistently
to avoid small games and 400 DD games
i think there are some t3 warriors that fit into this
Colbert is also probably doable
but the question is if 180k is truly possible across ALL ships at say, T10 (except for the obviously unreliable ones)
and off the top of my head there were just a few RTS CV players (at least, on NA) that I knew who were capable of it
All ships? No
yes
and they're T1 clubbers who only play late
all, unlikely
but across 5-10 ships? yes
Because destroyers just get screwed out of damage sometimes
say only Cruisers and BBs then
Depends on CV. My RTS Kaga was 77.8% across 90 games
As long as junk like Sevastopol exists, 180k avg is unlikely
For example, G4ng has an avg of 160k dmg over the last year. One of the RTS CV players I could find has an avg of 150k~ give or take
yeah see it shows the secondarys reload as being 5.5s instead of 9.1s like on the website
some map/team combinations are just ggreds for that kind of ship
Even ships like Marseille or Napoli that are designed for dynamic play might not be able to average 180k consistently 
cv sophia has 82% solo overall, chtolly (across various accounts) has around 83%
most players I can find who have super high avg damage always seem to SERIOUSLY plateau around 150-160k
in terms of avg damage
even this acc is around 150k~
Probably because sometimes you just screwed out of damage
because forcing wins and getting high damage are two different things
So it makes me doubt that 180k+ is possible over a very large amount of games
yeah
but the question was what is theoretical maximum avg damage you can reach (separate from WR in question)
gaishu lost a lot of his games while getting his 200k action midway average on purpose
i think if you mained super ships you'd probably average like 200k
who does the updates for shiptools website?
leaving BBs alone and refusing to spot them to heal back all the damage he dealt
i mean you are correct
it does seem 180k is possible
Gaishu has 179k actually lmao
Even on superships it depends on what you play
Humphreys, Dalarna and Yamagiri probably can't do that
First name that came to my head:
yea i think low 80%s is where the top RTS CVs ended up
because aside from the games where they queue into each other it's a guaranteed win
now separate from that what is like the true empirical limit of how far you can push this game PR, WR, and Dmg wise at the same time
add the others to friends and avoid queuing them and you'll get there
ig
hm
is there any way to find the highest wr account
(over an actual size of samples)
I tryed to help.
that leaderboard is mostly full of the lowtier gamers
dont think you can filter by tier or something easily
Top 3 has a person with mostly Kitakaze and Akizuki games
the interesting thing is all of them have extremely high wr with low damage, even for the T10 people
What does three mean?
what are the quiz answers
3 means you're in the top 50% of basexp in the ship in that particular match
2 is top 20%, 1 is top 5%, and E is top 1%
there is literally nobody at T10 in this group lmao
Ok thank you
Well I give for the moment with Cleveland.
not even a good sample size either
i guess with more filters it all could be found through the data api allows to access...
since they're all like 300-400 games solo
at lowest tiers
the only person within the top there is the CV_Sophia
Well I did horrible.
Surv
not a thing in asia for the most part sadly. cursed CV divs
I remembered my saipan and ent suffered greatly
in a similar vein, the people who farm 200k-300k in a kite cruiser/conq and then complain about their team losing
david
fishy mcfishface
your team didn't lose the game you just farmed 200k in fires on 1 BB and it healed it all back
they don't know the tech
I hope I can get better with Cruiser.
Hey Chanderlin.
galaxy destroyer 2000
thats the thing about leaderboard farming, a lot of the spots are taken up by ppl who hard farm 80 games and then stop playing
Am tired of this guys all times joining games and not even playing. Is unfair. Is the 3rd I had seen today.
Am tired of this.
if maintaining a spot on the leaderboard involves me stopping playing the ship i like then idgaf about the leaderboard
what support is this?!!! It is impossible to contact any because of bugs!!! Wake up!!!!
gotta dopaminemaxx yo
is leaderboard farming actually like fun though
no
since the entire game for those 80 games is just
I spent half and hour trying to contact support, did no succeed!!!
depends on your "fun"
well... it is but only if youre good at it
"gotta deal this X amount of dmg and win X amount of games"
What I should have done of different guys?
like how is that fun
some poeple just like seeing their name on the website
and everything else doesn't matter
its to prove a point mainly
i like enjoying my life rather then getting the 0.01s attention of someone else
like "how far can I push this" kind of fun
i mean even then though
shoutout to my (ex-)clanmate for being top10 DM leaderboard with 1400 games 
how do you even say that name wtf
I farmed a ship onto one leaderboard that I definitely won't play again
1400 is dedication
but it's a T6
omg leopard226 ๐ฅ
leopard is the example of guy who likes seeing his name on websites pushed to the extreme

whos that
its probably better if you dont know
if you say that I want to know more
i remember seeing an image of a "leopard227" which is just the inverse of this leopard226 person it seems
was it 227?
they had like 13% wr
why did I do this?
London btw
Why did you do that?
I should for sure work on aim and survivability right?
there are worse ships to do that in
For Cruiser.
That is generally how you win
now that London isn't unique having a heal I'm not trying again
so can i know who leopard226 is
Really?
is there any findable info
I used to meme Haku over how he never played his DM again after getting it up the LB
I see and yeah.
London wasn't bad...for a T6 cruiser
god bless after losing every game the enemy gets a triple BB div
smoke, heal, usable torps
i do that in a lot of ships tbh
The bar is literally under the floor
I should also don't go hard on myself.
Oh right, De Grasse has a heal now
Where is support?!!! How is not possible to report bug?!!!
Might be worth trying that
Yep.
HALLO!!! I WANT TO REPORT A BUG!!
wsg
I mean ig tbf I never did touch Chapayev again
Yep, I wanna cry...
I memed around in T6-T8 CV leaderboards
I dropped the game long time ago and return every so often to larp 
And thanks cross_my_heart.
#1463525768876396769 is where you can report bugs, i can guarantee that one of us will take a look at it and file a report if it's valid, but no guarantees on things being fixed immediately, there are lots of things awaiting fixes
For before.
Yes
I could've easily got myself a nice position, angled and out of crossfire
but alas
too slow
For sure after dinner I will watch video for learn and improve.
are we still on this ๐ญ
Chanderlin mournfully reflecting on his strategic mistakes as the water rises up around him and he prepares to go down with the Stalingrad
Yeah, imagine playing a croozer.
I am not going to post nothing, I tried wargaming it is not possible at all!!! There is a bug on submarine surveilence, it is not affected by commanders, signals or anything at all. U69 does not work
It takes more than 5 minutes to charge, no matter what
dumbest win ever

I'm dead here btw
yep, we are aware of this bug and a fix is high priority right now -> #known-bugs message
Hi dead here btw
the AFK won the game and would have gotten a solo warrior had one of them not burned down 1s before I died
Getting a solo warrior while being AFK is truly a power move
i played a game on two brothers where we had 7 ships in enemy cap and they had 3 ships in ours
If we had him active I would likely have lived
because the entire enemy team wouldn't have walked into me at once
(they did the funny schlieffen - libertad - essex div and smoke pushed one side)
Was it barage
ofc it was asian
but anyways, they wre sitting on our cap and i typed in team chat

the asashio that tried to torp me
this moment when, you are running out of green boosters
"we have 1 billion ships in their cap just take all hands off keyboard and we win"
and of course it's two brothers and you can imagine what ended up happening
Looks at my lack of credit, fxp and commander xp boosters
I run out of those all the time 
is there any way to view replays from an older version
like perhaps an entire year ago version
I gave an 80 game AL Montpelier a solo warrior by accident
I was playing Ipiranga on his team, overextended myself while we had all 4 caps on Two Brothers, then I just told him to run
There were exactly 4 enemies alive when I went down and the new weeb who had no clue what he was doing won the match
patrie says I will charge back to home cap down mid into the schlieffen+libertad who are under cover of essex smoke and spotting!
dies instantly
a petro, gearing, and shimakaze follow suit, all of them going down the middle 1 by 1
cough
honkai mentioned
I have a saved replay file of a Paolo Emilio killing 5 people with a single torpedo salvo and ive literally never seen that again
in all due fairness I got Solo Warrior twice
thankfully i think their essex actually ended up running out of smokescreens to lay and we still won, but it ended up being a friendly cruiser barely killing the essex before they ticked to 1000
all 4 launchers
Hi Zui
once recently-ish just because my team kept rushing mid after we had all caps and I just killed 2 people and won
not them
aw
are spiders insects
I literally had 1.5k credits yesterday
I want to thank my team for rushing mid en masse for no reason when we were already winning
twin we know.
(spooder, his generations live on top of my fence)
I have 430 million credits
I swear I'll grind a new line
I swear
(I'm busy with work)
rich mf
Kraken probably
idk Kraken feels
somewhat common
i see one every 1/15 games, get one pretty 'frequently'
yeah those are easy to get
I had to check and I have 95
by just playing the g ame honestly
i think the flooding one might be the rarest
Combat Scout
flooding one nearly impossible post-rework
Yes because literally everyone DCPs a flood
I think the thing about Combat Scout is it was added more recently
designed for a different era
Liquidator is essentially impossible now lol
i mean if you had old floods Unsinkable is quite easy to do
I got it twice in a single week in Montana sometime last year actually

mmm
why is Liquidator disabled
You can't get it anymore
idk, WG decided it wasn't worth keeping
"Cause flooding to an enemy ship and destroy it. Damage caused by flooding must exceed 40% of the destroyed ship's normal HP. Could be obtained multiple times per battle." (easy under old flooding)
oh man
actually impossible to win
Unsinkable is just the survive version of it
FML
yo I still got that dawg in me? 
Unsinkable is hard because normally you don't take huge damage from flooding and live
stupid ass lepanto goes for the ram when the DM has like 5k health
Liquidator;
- "Cause flooding to an enemy ship and destroy it. Damage caused by flooding must exceed 40% of the destroyed ship's normal HP. Could be obtained multiple times per battle." (easy under old flooding)
Unsinkable;
- "Receive damage from flooding that exceeds 40% of your ship's normal HP, and survive the battle. Can be obtained once per battle."
The surviving one happens but you cannot do Liquidator
Off the gold banner achievements, Combat Scout is probably the hardest
weird
Combat Scout happens fairly often in Ranked
I mean if you just don't DCP a flood you can probably actually do it
subs to farm combat scout
I didn't and got Unsinkable in Montana twice in a single week
It do be like that I guess
i feel like even not dcping a flood makes it super difficult

openwater Belfast my beloved
because floods fuck you over in positioning n shit as well
(It's been a while since I actually played it)
High caliber in randoms is way easier than Combat Scout
lol, lmao
what even is high caliber again
Combat Scout in randoms is a pain in the ass
25% to 4 ships
all i know is i get high caliber pretty easily (as in normally i can get it at least once a week)
valpa isnt fair
nuh uh
you scout for yourself
hm
Cause 25% of the entire enemy team's HP pool in damage
what is wrong with ptrvrkkfdlkdflk
Oh wait 30%
confed is 20% to 6
High Caliber is 30% of enemy HP, damage at least 4 total
sin
Confed is just easy to get by farming
i feel like every time i play Rhode island i get confed
that's why halsey proc is epico
Confed is super super easy
you get it by existing in val and having people sitting back
and sansonetti
yeah obv
Of what you guys are talking about?
it is hard to get value out of kraken yamamoto proc
Unsinkable just doesnt happen because you have to be an idiot to get it
or purposely go for it
true..
i think German mains are most likely to get unsinkable tho
because they're weirdly good at using hydro only after they've been hit by a billion torpedoes, then losing hydro when the next salvo comes
from what ive observed in Shimakaze, Shigure, and Jager
Let me ask my clans local entomologist
step 1
put yamamoto on tenryu
step 2
kill 5 bots
step 3
watch funny numbers
step 4
get devstruck anyway (ideally by a completely new player because he fired BB HE at you instead of AP which you would have survived)
I mean german battleship mains have a tendency to basically never use hydro
They pretend they do not see it
Hey InterconKW.
if you ever need an answer on how quantum mechanics and engineering work
german bb mains use hydro in situations when they've essentially already killed themselves by rushing mid
i got someone in my clan that can tell you
hydro does not work for that
hi andrea
Hydro magnetically attracts torps so they don't use it 
ngl i dont even use hydro to detect torpedoes
since im usually confident enough to dodge them myself anyway or predict them
(except when im in Harugumo or Jinan)
(I forget they exist)
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For sure today I will stop with doing battle and I will watch some G4ng video.
"I swear i wasn't observing the peedz"
I use it against bad DD players more because you have no idea where the fuck they're going to torp
LOL THAT DOES REMIND ME
"hmm today I will torp all 3 sets behind this full speed Georgia"
One question guys.
I have been vaguely tempted to run DFAA on Moskva since she generally plays so far back
@livid bridge โNo, spiders are arachnidsโ is what he said
But then I get the unicorn game where I get to shove in Moskva
I was playing Puerto Rico (god forbid) with a friend of mine who was in the Maine, and we tried to predict what this one Jinan player would torp out and we thought he'd torp out the area that 99% would assume so
instead we both got devstruck ๐ฅ
PLS HELP ME
apparently bro had a niche for torping the open ocean where nobody was spotted for 3 minutes
dw its nerfed
like ig bro
...where am i supposed to get damage and kills from...
wargaming would never lie
Nice.
Tbh guys.
The montana
too far...
This is why you should play rangemod
I like quite a lot Cleveland and it's fun have 360ยฐ turrets.
You need more range
bro is gonna get cooked by Joe
chat use quantum physics when dodging peeds
shima cooked one of the joes
just dont observe them
how
and they arent there
ok but still like
shima cooked the joe biden guy
ggs

dude could literally RETIRE at any moment as well so the "job" excuse doesnt even work
just dont observe them and they are in quantum superposition forever
I have quantum shit next semster
dude works 25 hours a week and complains about his boredom btw ๐ญ

probably doesn't care enough to actually learn the game, I know people like that
A person I know is normally intelligent and then thinks that smoking up in his Napoli in front of a Salem when he's getting fucked is somehow a good play because maybe the Salem will forget to use his radar
huh i wonder who the CV targeted this game
(every single time i lose)
It do be like that
there's the problem
100% of his brain is occupied by advanced physics
0% is left for any other life facets
@lucid wagon One day would you like to do a division on EU?
I could
I see other people getting away with insane plays and then I try them and explode immediately


