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lucid wagon
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has some sort of massive standard test

trail salmon
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have you seen the people celebrating after finishing gaokao

fickle grail
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and let's have a proper brawl

trail salmon
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its like a relief

lucid wagon
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do bad on the GSAT and AST and youre fucked for awhile

lucid skiff
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Caught a Willian de ee whatever it is called broadside, big mistake

lucid wagon
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do bad on any standard test and youre fucked for awhile

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cram school time

trail salmon
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i have SAT gaming next year

tawdry turret
tawdry turret
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istg

lucid skiff
tawdry turret
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we have thptqg here ( equivalent to gaokao )

untold thistle
gaunt lichen
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I thought brawl was meant so braindead "brawl meta" can actually play

tawdry turret
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max score is 30 and anyone who has like 23+ gets a good school or sth

tawdry turret
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another path is V-ACT which max at 1200, 900+ is considered decent

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But heavily depends on how difficult the test would be

honest silo
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One question guys.

lucid wagon
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you'd infer that the nation with the most severe standard test would be South Korea

untold thistle
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lucid wagon
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just because of how many students there kill themselves

tawdry turret
frozen vortex
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Brawl feels like WG gave all the boats cocaine

honest silo
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What the amount of point for a Commander to have for Yorktown, Cleveland and Benson?

untold thistle
tawdry turret
frozen vortex
untold thistle
honest silo
lucid wagon
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I mean overall would you say that the way academics work in Asia is 'good' or 'better' then the Western world; i dont think so

lucid wagon
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omg sure we get some high points in intelligence at the downside of a SHIT ton of suicides

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lmao

tawdry turret
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we just have different approach in education

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The western tempt to go slow with high school and under

untold thistle
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Game discussion truly

tawdry turret
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While we go rlly harsh

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And vice versa

dim bridge
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gentlemen crazy question

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is halford just a better velos?

worthy remnant
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I dont know why but it seems like wg hate me so much that they 10/10 brawl haft of my team afk and give free kill.

dim bridge
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Velos has better reload but only by a bit

lucid wagon
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but ig

dim bridge
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the torps on halford are better than velos

fickle grail
tawdry turret
winter fjord
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my next coal ship

lucid wagon
tawdry turret
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at least i know some cases people would do some risky acts

dawn flicker
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Hey is there a way to check how the camo looks?

worthy remnant
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Not gonna say much but it very bad to feel after a very long day and this happend

dim bridge
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look for the camos in the current event

tawdry turret
winter fjord
tawdry turret
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from a Viet

trail salmon
digital locust
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I got 666k coal and no idea what to buy

tawdry turret
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we put a lot of attention in it

lucid wagon
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are in demographic crisis

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in part due to education and worse living among youth like us

tawdry turret
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true

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harsh life as a kid

lucid wagon
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you can also add on South Korea and Japan if you want which are very similar

tawdry turret
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you're sacrificing childhood for "better future"

lucid wagon
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yeah

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Taiwan.. man we are really, really screwed imo

pearl shuttle
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spoting damage is so... annoing...

tawdry turret
pearl shuttle
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randoms are scawy

untold thistle
pearl shuttle
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yes

untold thistle
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You play DD in pvp or you struggle

livid bridge
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me when I w key in ops in a random car and get 200k spotting

pearl shuttle
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like i technicly got above 60k before in coop. but its so inconsistent and annoing

untold thistle
tawdry turret
digital locust
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Humanity will end up like the dinosaurian civilisation of late cretacean. Nature is healing

untold thistle
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That's just true

trail salmon
pearl shuttle
lucid wagon
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@tawdry turret Btw of the 5 countries we talked about; Taiwan, South Korea, Japan, China, and Vietnam; only my country (Taiwan) and South Korea have reached below 1 fertility rate. As for China, its at 1, Japan 1.2, and Vietnam is just SLIGHTLY below replacement rate

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Taiwan and South Korea do not recover from that type of collapse

tawdry turret
trail salmon
tawdry turret
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I do not know

gaunt lichen
lucid wagon
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because its important

pearl shuttle
lucid wagon
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i mean well exams are a large part in reason as to why its so fucked rn

analog jackal
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when im in a best ship competition

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and my opponent is cambridge

tawdry turret
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High school entrance exams too?

untold thistle
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Truly a game discussion about wows

tawdry turret
trail salmon
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^

untold thistle
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Tfym save more kids

trail salmon
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and more recruitments for me

untold thistle
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My kids will not play wows

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I wouldn't subject them to this torture

lucid wagon
# trail salmon how did we go from exams to fertililty

Think of it this way; As a young child, you are told that if you do not perform well on GSAT/AST, Gaokao, or the other standard tests; you will fail in life as you will not get into a good university. Not to mention for highschooling; you have to take CAP as a 9th grader. Idk what China does for highschool but, I know they do it.

To make sure your child has the ability to get good scores, you must put them into tutoring, cram schools, extracurriculars, etc. All very expensive, and the child's life revolves around academics only, so they're not very happy (and I wasn't as well.)

Say that child then makes it to adulthood with a good job; the economics of getting housing still suck. And they know raising a child in that type of system sucks. Less likely to start a family, less likely to have a child. Not to mention its super competitive to get a good job anyways no matter.

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does that sound like a good system?

lucid wagon
tawdry turret
tawdry turret
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Back in vn i still rmb i get like bazillion extra classes every night

lucid wagon
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the Asian Academic system specializes in creating highly intelligent workers at the cost of demographic

tawdry turret
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Like school ends at 5pm and i would be home at around 9

untold thistle
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We should really talk about it in a discord gc before the mods raid us

lucid wagon
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true

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prob

tawdry turret
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The mods are modCheck

feral path
# lucid wagon Think of it this way; As a young child, you are told that if you do not perform ...

The reality of that, as seen in many western countries, is a declining national IQ. Quite frankly seems like they are changing the tests and fiddling with numbers to bury it, like, why shouldnt methodological and knowledge base education and upbringing not lead to happy and intelligent people, right? Edit: dont have kids if your smart... or stuck in poorly paid science and technology jobs, unless your in such professions because of psychological deviations.

untold thistle
lucid wagon
honest silo
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Here we go, wish me luck.

untold thistle
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My schedule in HS was fucked

honest silo
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Alright, Tier 9.

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I hope to remain alive.

untold thistle
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Also, I never understood the complaint about 9-to-5s

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That's just normal here

livid bridge
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tier 9 to tier 5s

untold thistle
trail salmon
lucid wagon
tawdry turret
trail salmon
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we're cool toooo

untold thistle
trail salmon
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^

tawdry turret
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Usually the intelligent but not happy ppl

untold thistle
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Having both at the same time is an oddity if anything

plush smelt
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dude i am getting this bug every game what the fuck

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how do you fix this

deep swan
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huh
the mission to play specific ships isn't working ggreds
not repeatable

untold thistle
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Like, play vanilla

deep swan
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What bug?

untold thistle
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Camera bug

lucid wagon
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the perfect showcase of this

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theyre super smart like whatever got mega rich rare jobs

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both are depressed

pearl shuttle
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nope, nopety nope can't play randoms its scawy

untold thistle
honest silo
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I think I'm not in a good position.

lucid wagon
tawdry turret
plush smelt
lucid wagon
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yeah

pearl shuttle
# untold thistle Play randoms

i tried low tier but failed miserably T-T why is it the only ship i can play in randoms is monty. and not even that well.

plush smelt
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ur not dead

untold thistle
plush smelt
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reverse and shoot from the other side

lucid wagon
trail salmon
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well i would radar kill dd

lucid wagon
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if you just make an effort to get better; you are fine

trail salmon
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then peek other side

plush smelt
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what ship is that

tawdry turret
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Cleve

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He's playing cleve

plush smelt
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hmm

trail salmon
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cleveland brown

plush smelt
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yea if u can catch the dd kill it first

untold thistle
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Cleve's not too bad but that flank can't really do well for her

pearl shuttle
untold thistle
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You have way too much tall islands

lucid wagon
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but i get it

plush smelt
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tbh you should have went where ur DD currently is

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that's like the only usable island

pearl shuttle
lucid wagon
untold thistle
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At some no point, you just tune out and get into a groove with the game where you don't need to think and just play on auto

lucid wagon
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there are so many fucking maps that just entirely fuck over cruisers

untold thistle
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And still do well

lucid wagon
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its not even funny

lucid wagon
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Tears of the Desert, Okinawa, Ocean, Two Brothers (im gonna admit i do think this is the case)

untold thistle
deep swan
untold thistle
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But playing the north with cruisers

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Actually abyssmal

trail salmon
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tears of desert is awful

lucid wagon
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bro ocean is actually just such a fucking troll

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if youre a cruiser

tawdry turret
trail salmon
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okinawa is somewhat livable

tawdry turret
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because of the mid

trail salmon
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not in des mo it isnt

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๐Ÿ˜ญ

tawdry turret
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Generally kind of awful to play as a cruiser there

lucid wagon
# trail salmon okinawa is somewhat livable

prior to the Okinawa rework (which i still think it didnt help); I forget if it was C flank, i think so, buit C flank old Okinawa was literally UNPLAYABLE of youre a cruiser that relies on islands or cover

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if it was A flank well you get my point

plush smelt
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these two spots are pretty good

untold thistle
deep swan
trail salmon
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north too

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its terrible

plush smelt
pearl shuttle
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imma just like. play normaly and hope for luck. i hate this

plush smelt
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have had some banger games in DM/Salem in the middle

pearl shuttle
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oh shut up.

deep swan
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put a 4501 or archerfish over there for maximum cringe

lucid wagon
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but overall its not a good map

deep swan
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the flank is now completely dead

lucid wagon
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like i love running it down in two brothers but it just isnt a good map

deep swan
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nothing useful will happen there

trail salmon
plush smelt
trail salmon
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-# must be an operation player

lucid wagon
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@tawdry turret @untold thistle oh yeah i also uniquely discovered i just straight up suck at Jinan somehow

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i bombed my two NA account PRs in it as well

pearl shuttle
trail salmon
lucid wagon
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you havent ever seen me play Jinan bro

honest silo
plush smelt
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they're too tall u need to peek to get shots

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and hug the island

trail salmon
honest silo
honest silo
trail salmon
plush smelt
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on the map it looks like ur quite far from it

deep swan
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imagine if WG put high tier battles on this?

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would be unplayable

pearl shuttle
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i have almost 1k coop battles, and only 18 random battles.

plush smelt
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if there were ships playing the flank and u were spotted you'd be dead

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i will never understand coop players

pearl shuttle
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its just less painfull than doing randoms

lucid wagon
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this existed at the same time as uhh

plush smelt
honest silo
trail salmon
plush smelt
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there's 0 challenge how do you enjoy that

pearl shuttle
lucid wagon
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lmao

trail salmon
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wait lemme fetch my sejong

honest silo
trail salmon
honest silo
tawdry turret
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okay i eep

honest silo
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Have a good night.

lucid wagon
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I think i suck at BBs

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also strongest Japanese warrior

honest silo
tawdry turret
trail salmon
lucid wagon
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i dunnoo

lucid wagon
trail salmon
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in my RIB

tawdry turret
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so umazing

honest silo
trail salmon
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who eats archerfish peeds on two brothers east flank

tawdry turret
lucid wagon
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STRONGEST TIER 8 WARRIOR

trail salmon
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anhalt ๐Ÿฅ€

lucid wagon
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MY stats are beautiful

real meadow
trail salmon
lucid wagon
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CA/CL must be unplayable

honest silo
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If I keep doing praatice I will get better with cruiser right guys?

real meadow
lucid wagon
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yea

grizzled relic
lucid wagon
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i would genuinely give up all my accounts to never play Sunset Isles again

grizzled relic
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and we know that wg dont want longer ques

lucid wagon
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i hate the map that much

trail salmon
tawdry turret
lucid wagon
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lmao

grizzled relic
real meadow
plush smelt
lucid wagon
# real meadow i mean no?

The entire map design of Sunset isles is just quite bad, in my opinion. It is a literal blowout central in every single game i've played due to the way spotting and capping works on that entire map

real meadow
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so no it doesnt work xd

plush smelt
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honestly in practice it works pretty often

teal prism
grizzled relic
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i got 1.5k base exp on a lose in mino ๐Ÿฅ€

lucid wagon
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ok

plush smelt
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im gonna crash out dude

lucid wagon
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I just dont like sunset isles

plush smelt
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im either getting camera bugged or getting actual apes on my team

teal prism
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I donโ€™t like you

lucid wagon
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ok

plush smelt
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loss rate maxxing

teal prism
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๐Ÿ™‚

honest silo
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@real meadow @plush smelt If is needed I have the rendering of the battle.

plush smelt
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tho it still looks ok idk why ur not getting any damage

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and u randomly come out to 3 bbs towards the end

honest silo
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The end was my mistake.

livid bridge
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there wasn't much to shoot except at the end ngl

pearl shuttle
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lunches spoter "I'm using hydrosonic serch!" 3 seconds into battle

livid bridge
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the damage on the flank was Poomern and Bismark and they both fled to spawn 5min in

grizzled relic
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@real meadow this means am going good right ๐Ÿฅ€

drifting marlin
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as soon as your akatsuki lays that smoke in the cap that's your opening to take a few shots from the smoke and then run out to the wide angle where you have similar amount of cover but a much lower island that you can relentlessly fire over

drifting marlin
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your position is pretty much ok, if anything i would've turned so that your bow is pointed more towards the pommern and just accept you're not using the rear turrets in exchange for keeping the front turrets active more consistently, then as soon as you see that smoke go up that's your window

honest silo
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I will next time and thanks zuiKatsu and Cirzoo.

drifting marlin
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generally you can't get teammates to lay smokes for you (when not in div i would never expect them to do so, and generally when im playing farming cruisers i tell DDs to just save smokes for themselves)

but if your teammate does lay a smoke taking advantage of it is usually a good idea

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esp in a cruiser like cleveland

wicked crater
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Why doesn't Wargaming add negative karma? That would be better. I think this system is totally pointless. It would be better if you could get negative karma. I'm so tired of players giving me a negative rating as soon as things go wrong for them. So as far as I'm concerned, I'd rather have -1000 than 20+.

lucid wagon
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it does infact exist

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and is possible

wicked crater
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realy usless system. its a lots of angry player in this game

livid bridge
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curious coincidence strikes again

trail salmon
light harbor
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Very rare though, yes

honest silo
light harbor
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Back when I played DM obsessively, one in every 4 or 5 non-divved Gearings just give you a smoke

trail salmon
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i play DM obsessively heh

light harbor
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I tried again today

grizzled relic
lucid wagon
light harbor
lucid wagon
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not a good day

light harbor
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Today was mostly a good day actually

real meadow
light harbor
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It was specifically DM that went poorly

long magnet
lucid wagon
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yucky

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Moskva

light harbor
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I like my 50mm of russian steel

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Sue me

lucid wagon
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50mm of boredom

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lmao

trail salmon
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with DM its easy for it to go poorly due to overmatch and stuff

light harbor
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Also maps fuck over DM a lot

trail salmon
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^

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based

light harbor
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Moskva can play open water a lot more effectively

real meadow
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idk my salem works 24/7

trail salmon
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imagine getting north A flank

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๐Ÿคฎ

lucid wagon
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!!!!

real meadow
light harbor
real meadow
trail salmon
light harbor
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If I want to carry I play Moskva

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It's really that simple

trail salmon
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my carry bote is RIB

analog jackal
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valparaiso is still mindlessly overpowered ๐Ÿ˜”

trail salmon
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bc its just a big yoshino

light harbor
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I mean I have that too

trail salmon
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and confederate is easy

light harbor
void relic
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carry in shima and gunboat

plush smelt
drifting marlin
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the strength of salem is other than 30mm overmatch BBs you can straight up walk into everyone and guarantee out-trade them

light harbor
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I disagree

analog jackal
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colombo is still mindlessly overpowered ๐Ÿ˜”

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nothing changes

plush smelt
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tho des moines is still nuts

drifting marlin
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moskva you can't just like waltz into a hindenburg for example if they're not stupid

plush smelt
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salem is just comfy to play

trail salmon
void relic
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salem kinda outtrades every cruiser in a 1v1

real meadow
trail salmon
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i play prekited and then once i can push i push

light harbor
drifting marlin
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salem outtrades most non-30mm ovm BBs too

analog jackal
light harbor
real meadow
light harbor
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Yoshino can't shove at all

analog jackal
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its outragously good at bullying cruisers

light harbor
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Marseille wants to shove when you get the chance

honest silo
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Alright, this is not bad.

plush smelt
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the superheal also allows it to trade itself into shitters like colombo and libertad

trail salmon
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you can arc a lot of islands

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i think

light harbor
drifting marlin
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tho the true terror is when desmoines/salem gets a match with no 27mm overmatch

light harbor
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Colombo depends on if you get a 1v1

drifting marlin
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press W into the whole enemy team and win

real meadow
light harbor
plush smelt
light harbor
trail salmon
analog jackal
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imagine

lucid wagon
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i hate Des Moines specifically wehn im playing Republique

light harbor
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Imagine

drifting marlin
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repub can kill dm pretty reliably

honest silo
plush smelt
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tho if the liber is bad you can win

trail salmon
light harbor
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But yeah Moskva IMO has a lot fewer counters than DM generally

topaz coyote
trail salmon
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i can pen 34

lucid wagon
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where i got ambushed by a Des Moines

light harbor
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It's basically just Hindenburg, Libertad and the occasional Goliath

lucid wagon
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and went from 55k health to 0 in all of about

grizzled relic
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our shima is about to MEGA carrty

lucid wagon
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30 seconds

grizzled relic
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bro is gonna get solo worrior

lucid wagon
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my best Republique game btw

plush smelt
trail salmon
light harbor
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I'm not arguing that you can't carry in DM

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I just prefer Moskva

trail salmon
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moskva is saved from overmatch

plush smelt
trail salmon
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with des mo i need to use brain

light harbor
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Also apparently I've completely forgotten about how DM plays so there's that too Dashaha

trail salmon
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...

topaz coyote
trail salmon
light harbor
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This hard

lucid wagon
plush smelt
lucid wagon
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was at 280k~ dmg

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couldve gotten more

plush smelt
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i need to see replays cuz how tf

honest silo
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Ok, nevermind I was in a bad position.

lucid wagon
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Republique is truly miserable

light harbor
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To be fair though, one of those games I got super fucked over by my team and the other I got fucked over by the enemy carrier and Louisiana

lucid wagon
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every single time i play Republique there most be at least one Bremen

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who is also above 55% wr

honest silo
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Yumihari got me.

light harbor
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And the third game was a blowout in my favour

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So no time to farm damage suspensive_railway

plush smelt
trail salmon
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oop

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he got A flank

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ggs

ivory gale
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wait why am i not #8 Stalingrad conwhy

honest silo
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And I was in a bad position.

drifting marlin
honest silo
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And also stupid to don't move out before.

light harbor
trail salmon
ivory gale
drifting marlin
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you generally need to play a game to get updated on leaderboard

light harbor
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Hm

trail salmon
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it will update

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it needs to update

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i think

ivory gale
drifting marlin
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ie. there's some natural pr movement as the expected values change, but you don't get force updated unless you play the ship

honest silo
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I still have a lot to learn regarding cruiser.

lucid wagon
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one day there will be a wows player with 80% solo wr

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we gotta get some like fuckin

lucid wagon
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150IQ Supergenius that learns everything at

drifting marlin
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possible in rts cv days but not nowadays

lucid wagon
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no

ivory gale
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if it's unachievable even for the best of the best...

lucid wagon
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you must have belief

trail salmon
lucid wagon
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!

lucid wagon
topaz coyote
drifting marlin
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there just arent ships that have that much match impact now

lucid wagon
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yo where the fuck do you live

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Krypton

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??

honest silo
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Alright.

trail salmon
honest silo
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Time to find a island.

ivory gale
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ima go do a few warmup games cause god I don't remember how stalingrad feels conwhy

trail salmon
topaz coyote
light harbor
trail salmon
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you can arc it

lucid wagon
trail salmon
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and then move E10

light harbor
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Some gamer who rerolled and only plays carrier divs

lucid wagon
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but they're RTS CV players like Zuikaku said

trail salmon
honest silo
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Alright.

lucid wagon
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i said solo

light harbor
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Oh

ivory gale
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Do I get heavy AP here?

light harbor
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Then not anymore I think

drifting marlin
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solo is probably only RTS CV players

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no other ships have that much match impact to be able to force 80% of games

lucid wagon
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i feel like the theoretical maximum is low 70s

light harbor
lucid wagon
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ive seen like a few actual solo 70% players

light harbor
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Makes the captain usable for Petro as well

lucid wagon
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but theyre always rerolls over like 1-2k games at maximum

light harbor
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Also slot gun feeder

warm raft
lucid wagon
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what even is a good baseline to measure solo wr over how many games

light harbor
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90 days is good I think

lucid wagon
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my wording was bad

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how many games to get an actually good sample size to rate it

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100 isnt enough

warm raft
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Iโ€™d suggest 30 or so

light harbor
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200-400?

light harbor
lucid wagon
warm raft
ivory gale
#

70% should be very much achievable for a few individuals in select high impact ships

#

hell, maybe even I could do it in a few ships conwhy

light harbor
#

I would personally argue that this is enough proof that someone is a unicum gamer for example (provided there aren't 300 T-22 games or something equally absurd)

lucid wagon
#

i mean yeah i guess

light harbor
#

Therefore, 400 games is probably enough proof

eternal jacinth
#

is it just me or is Bismarck 41 secondary stats off? on ship stats website

light harbor
#

The manual mode has higher DPM

drifting marlin
digital locust
#

Yes, ranked

drifting marlin
#

ah, ranked is a diff story imo

digital locust
#

But if you want to see solo random

drifting marlin
#

because it's a smaller team size and each player has more game impact

rare schoonerBOT
#
Randoms

Battles: 47
Wins: 76.60% (36/11/0)
Survival: 44.68% (21/26)

Averages

exp Base EXP: 1 656
caused_damage Damage: 83 164
frags Kills: 1.45
caused_avia_damage Aircraft: 7.66
caused_avia_damage Spotted: 0.49
assisted_damage Scouting: 20 238
blocked_damage Potential: 765 330

Records

exp Base EXP: 2 709
caused_damage Damage: 181 538
frags Kills: 4
caused_avia_damage Aircraft: 41
caused_avia_damage Spotted: 4
assisted_damage Scouting: 84 411
blocked_damage Potential: 1 781 832

Armaments (Kills/Record/Accuracy)

Main Battery: (44/4/38.96%)
Secondaries: (0/0/-)
Torpedoes: (0/0/-)
Depth Charges: (0/0/-)
Aircraft: (11/2/-)
Rams: (0/0/-)

lucid wagon
#

I wonder if 180k+ dmg consistently, at solo, is possible. There are those who already manage 150k-160k solo across most ships, and i feel like that is already the limit

#

like what are the theoretical maximums of this g ames stats

honest silo
#

I'm understanding slowly more about cruiser guys.

ivory gale
#

oof I missed my lil cruiser

drifting marlin
#

like the question was, is there a player with 80% solo wr

eternal jacinth
drifting marlin
#

180k totally possible

lucid wagon
deep swan
#

you also want to play at specific times of day

lucid wagon
#

like no shit in one ship like C. Colombo you can manage 180k consistently

deep swan
#

to avoid small games and 400 DD games

frosty cedar
light harbor
#

Colbert is also probably doable

lucid wagon
#

but the question is if 180k is truly possible across ALL ships at say, T10 (except for the obviously unreliable ones)

drifting marlin
#

and off the top of my head there were just a few RTS CV players (at least, on NA) that I knew who were capable of it

eager pumice
deep swan
#

all, unlikely
but across 5-10 ships? yes

light harbor
#

Because destroyers just get screwed out of damage sometimes

lucid wagon
digital locust
#

Depends on CV. My RTS Kaga was 77.8% across 90 games

deep swan
#

As long as junk like Sevastopol exists, 180k avg is unlikely

lucid wagon
#

For example, G4ng has an avg of 160k dmg over the last year. One of the RTS CV players I could find has an avg of 150k~ give or take

eternal jacinth
deep swan
#

some map/team combinations are just ggreds for that kind of ship

light harbor
#

Even ships like Marseille or Napoli that are designed for dynamic play might not be able to average 180k consistently hm

drifting marlin
#

cv sophia has 82% solo overall, chtolly (across various accounts) has around 83%

lucid wagon
#

most players I can find who have super high avg damage always seem to SERIOUSLY plateau around 150-160k

#

in terms of avg damage

light harbor
#

Probably because sometimes you just screwed out of damage

drifting marlin
#

because forcing wins and getting high damage are two different things

lucid wagon
#

So it makes me doubt that 180k+ is possible over a very large amount of games

#

yeah

#

but the question was what is theoretical maximum avg damage you can reach (separate from WR in question)

drifting marlin
#

gaishu lost a lot of his games while getting his 200k action midway average on purpose

plush smelt
#

i think if you mained super ships you'd probably average like 200k

eternal jacinth
#

who does the updates for shiptools website?

drifting marlin
#

leaving BBs alone and refusing to spot them to heal back all the damage he dealt

light harbor
#

The Conqueror farming strategy

#

Understandable

lucid wagon
#

it does seem 180k is possible

#

Gaishu has 179k actually lmao

light harbor
#

Humphreys, Dalarna and Yamagiri probably can't do that

drifting marlin
#

thats his action midway

#

and action hak

digital locust
#

First name that came to my head:

drifting marlin
#

yea i think low 80%s is where the top RTS CVs ended up

#

because aside from the games where they queue into each other it's a guaranteed win

lucid wagon
#

now separate from that what is like the true empirical limit of how far you can push this game PR, WR, and Dmg wise at the same time

drifting marlin
#

add the others to friends and avoid queuing them and you'll get there

lucid wagon
#

ig

#

hm

#

is there any way to find the highest wr account

#

(over an actual size of samples)

honest silo
#

I tryed to help.

drifting marlin
#

that leaderboard is mostly full of the lowtier gamers

#

dont think you can filter by tier or something easily

light harbor
#

Top 3 has a person with mostly Kitakaze and Akizuki games

lucid wagon
#

the interesting thing is all of them have extremely high wr with low damage, even for the T10 people

drifting marlin
#

go to solo

#

since that was what we were talking about

hushed solar
#

What does three mean?

finite quail
#

what are the quiz answers

finite quail
#

for the last question

#

oh thanks

light harbor
#

Fair enough

drifting marlin
#

2 is top 20%, 1 is top 5%, and E is top 1%

lucid wagon
hushed solar
honest silo
#

Well I give for the moment with Cleveland.

lucid wagon
#

not even a good sample size either

ivory gale
#

i guess with more filters it all could be found through the data api allows to access...

lucid wagon
#

since they're all like 300-400 games solo

#

at lowest tiers

#

the only person within the top there is the CV_Sophia

honest silo
#

Well I did horrible.

hidden imp
#

I need names

#

Ignore finger

mental sundial
#

Surv

tiny radish
#

I remembered my saipan and ent suffered greatly

deep swan
wheat cobalt
#

bro

#

they don't know

trail salmon
wheat cobalt
#

Conq can tank for team

#

a lot

trail salmon
#

fishy mcfishface

deep swan
#

your team didn't lose the game you just farmed 200k in fires on 1 BB and it healed it all back

wheat cobalt
#

they don't know the tech

honest silo
#

I hope I can get better with Cruiser.

ivory gale
#

aight let's update stalingrad stats...

#

im gonna die with 50k dmg and lose

honest silo
#

Hey Chanderlin.

ivory gale
#

๐Ÿฅ€

#

Sup Andrea

hushed solar
drifting marlin
#

thats the thing about leaderboard farming, a lot of the spots are taken up by ppl who hard farm 80 games and then stop playing

hidden crane
#

Am tired of this guys all times joining games and not even playing. Is unfair. Is the 3rd I had seen today.

#

Am tired of this.

drifting marlin
#

if maintaining a spot on the leaderboard involves me stopping playing the ship i like then idgaf about the leaderboard

ocean apex
#

what support is this?!!! It is impossible to contact any because of bugs!!! Wake up!!!!

tiny radish
#

gotta dopaminemaxx yo

lucid wagon
#

is leaderboard farming actually like fun though

tiny radish
#

no

lucid wagon
#

since the entire game for those 80 games is just

ocean apex
#

I spent half and hour trying to contact support, did no succeed!!!

drifting marlin
#

depends on your "fun"

tiny radish
#

well... it is but only if youre good at it

lucid wagon
#

"gotta deal this X amount of dmg and win X amount of games"

honest silo
lucid wagon
#

like how is that fun

drifting marlin
#

some poeple just like seeing their name on the website

#

and everything else doesn't matter

tiny radish
#

its to prove a point mainly

lucid wagon
#

i like enjoying my life rather then getting the 0.01s attention of someone else

tiny radish
#

like "how far can I push this" kind of fun

lucid wagon
#

i mean even then though

drifting marlin
#

shoutout to my (ex-)clanmate for being top10 DM leaderboard with 1400 games DogeKEK

lucid wagon
#

how do you even say that name wtf

deep swan
#

I farmed a ship onto one leaderboard that I definitely won't play again

frosty cedar
#

1400 is dedication

deep swan
#

but it's a T6

drifting marlin
#

leopard is the example of guy who likes seeing his name on websites pushed to the extreme

lucid wagon
#

whos that

drifting marlin
#

its probably better if you dont know

lucid wagon
#

if you say that I want to know more

#

i remember seeing an image of a "leopard227" which is just the inverse of this leopard226 person it seems

#

was it 227?

#

they had like 13% wr

deep swan
#

why did I do this?
London btw

light harbor
#

Why did you do that?

honest silo
#

I should for sure work on aim and survivability right?

tiny radish
#

there are worse ships to do that in

honest silo
#

For Cruiser.

light harbor
deep swan
#

now that London isn't unique having a heal I'm not trying again

lucid wagon
#

so can i know who leopard226 is

light harbor
lucid wagon
#

is there any findable info

light harbor
#

Oh wait right

#

I forgot London had a heal before it was cool

eager pumice
honest silo
deep swan
#

London wasn't bad...for a T6 cruiser

plush smelt
#

god bless after losing every game the enemy gets a triple BB div

deep swan
#

smoke, heal, usable torps

tiny radish
light harbor
honest silo
#

I should also don't go hard on myself.

plush smelt
#

but I have a fucking 36% humphreys

#

god help me

light harbor
#

Oh right, De Grasse has a heal now

ocean apex
#

Where is support?!!! How is not possible to report bug?!!!

light harbor
#

Might be worth trying that

honest silo
ocean apex
#

HALLO!!! I WANT TO REPORT A BUG!!

forest gust
#

wsg

eager pumice
ivory gale
#

Yep, I wanna cry...

tiny radish
#

I memed around in T6-T8 CV leaderboards

ivory gale
honest silo
#

And thanks cross_my_heart.

drifting marlin
honest silo
#

For before.

light harbor
#

I hope you saw the problem

ivory gale
#

problem was my mispositioning

#

and slow reaction

light harbor
#

Yes

lucid wagon
#

no

#

the problem is that you didnt blame the team

ivory gale
#

I could've easily got myself a nice position, angled and out of crossfire

#

but alas

#

too slow

honest silo
#

For sure after dinner I will watch video for learn and improve.

trail salmon
lucid wagon
#

who is leopard226

light harbor
#

WoWSnumbers hasn't updated my name yet

#

Hm

eager pumice
# ivory gale too slow

Chanderlin mournfully reflecting on his strategic mistakes as the water rises up around him and he prepares to go down with the Stalingrad

stark panther
ocean apex
light harbor
ocean apex
#

It takes more than 5 minutes to charge, no matter what

light harbor
#

...yeah

#

Imagine playing a cruiser Dashaha

deep swan
#

dumbest win ever

light harbor
deep swan
#

I'm dead here btw

drifting marlin
mental sundial
deep swan
#

the AFK won the game and would have gotten a solo warrior had one of them not burned down 1s before I died

drifting marlin
#

let that be a lesson

#

in many cases the best action is to do nothing

light harbor
#

Getting a solo warrior while being AFK is truly a power move

mental sundial
#

bug reports
looks inside
0 insects

drifting marlin
#

i played a game on two brothers where we had 7 ships in enemy cap and they had 3 ships in ours

deep swan
#

If we had him active I would likely have lived
because the entire enemy team wouldn't have walked into me at once

drifting marlin
#

(they did the funny schlieffen - libertad - essex div and smoke pushed one side)

mental sundial
#

Was it barage

drifting marlin
#

no, but i have seem him do that like 10 times

#

was an asian clan div iirc

trail salmon
#

ofc it was asian

drifting marlin
#

but anyways, they wre sitting on our cap and i typed in team chat

deep swan
#

OMEGALUL
the asashio that tried to torp me

pearl shuttle
#

this moment when, you are running out of green boosters

drifting marlin
#

"we have 1 billion ships in their cap just take all hands off keyboard and we win"

#

and of course it's two brothers and you can imagine what ended up happening

light harbor
#

I run out of those all the time Dashaha

lucid wagon
#

like perhaps an entire year ago version

eager pumice
#

I gave an 80 game AL Montpelier a solo warrior by accident
I was playing Ipiranga on his team, overextended myself while we had all 4 caps on Two Brothers, then I just told him to run

There were exactly 4 enemies alive when I went down and the new weeb who had no clue what he was doing won the match

drifting marlin
#

patrie says I will charge back to home cap down mid into the schlieffen+libertad who are under cover of essex smoke and spotting!

dies instantly

a petro, gearing, and shimakaze follow suit, all of them going down the middle 1 by 1

whole meteor
lucid wagon
#

I have a saved replay file of a Paolo Emilio killing 5 people with a single torpedo salvo and ive literally never seen that again

eager pumice
#

in all due fairness I got Solo Warrior twice

drifting marlin
#

thankfully i think their essex actually ended up running out of smokescreens to lay and we still won, but it ended up being a friendly cruiser barely killing the essex before they ticked to 1000

frozen vortex
#

Hi Zui

eager pumice
#

once recently-ish just because my team kept rushing mid after we had all caps and I just killed 2 people and won

drifting marlin
whole meteor
livid bridge
light harbor
eager pumice
#

I want to thank my team for rushing mid en masse for no reason when we were already winning

livid bridge
#

cuz I could just do updates on my friend Bob and his legacy

#

in bug reports

pearl shuttle
livid bridge
#

(spooder, his generations live on top of my fence)

eager pumice
#

I have 430 million credits

#

I swear I'll grind a new line

#

I swear

#

(I'm busy with work)

pearl shuttle
light harbor
#

Oh hey my relatively recent solo warrior is post-snarfing

eager pumice
#

what is the rarest like

#

normal WoWs achievement

#

(if not Solo Warrior)

light harbor
#

Kraken probably

lucid wagon
#

idk Kraken feels

#

somewhat common

#

i see one every 1/15 games, get one pretty 'frequently'

light harbor
#

I get Confed and High Caliber reasonably regularly

#

Kraken tends to elude me

lucid wagon
#

yeah those are easy to get

eager pumice
lucid wagon
#

by just playing the g ame honestly

light harbor
#

Dreadnought is super easy

#

Oh wait

lucid wagon
#

i think the flooding one might be the rarest

light harbor
#

Combat Scout

drifting marlin
#

flooding one nearly impossible post-rework

light harbor
eager pumice
#

I think the thing about Combat Scout is it was added more recently

drifting marlin
#

designed for a different era

lucid wagon
#

yeah

#

Unsinkable right?

eager pumice
#

Liquidator is essentially impossible now lol

lucid wagon
#

i mean if you had old floods Unsinkable is quite easy to do

light harbor
wheat cobalt
lucid wagon
#

why is Liquidator disabled

deep swan
lucid wagon
#

yeah

#

but why

#

Liquidator still is possible based on its requirements

light harbor
#

Too hard probably

#

Also folded into Witherer

deep swan
#

idk, WG decided it wasn't worth keeping

lucid wagon
#

"Cause flooding to an enemy ship and destroy it. Damage caused by flooding must exceed 40% of the destroyed ship's normal HP. Could be obtained multiple times per battle." (easy under old flooding)

ivory gale
#

oh man

plush smelt
#

actually impossible to win

lucid wagon
#

Unsinkable is just the survive version of it

plush smelt
#

FML

ivory gale
#

yo I still got that dawg in me? BloodKEKW

deep swan
#

Unsinkable is hard because normally you don't take huge damage from flooding and live

plush smelt
#

stupid ass lepanto goes for the ram when the DM has like 5k health

lucid wagon
#

Liquidator;

  • "Cause flooding to an enemy ship and destroy it. Damage caused by flooding must exceed 40% of the destroyed ship's normal HP. Could be obtained multiple times per battle." (easy under old flooding)

Unsinkable;

  • "Receive damage from flooding that exceeds 40% of your ship's normal HP, and survive the battle. Can be obtained once per battle."
#

The surviving one happens but you cannot do Liquidator

light harbor
#

Off the gold banner achievements, Combat Scout is probably the hardest

lucid wagon
#

weird

eager pumice
#

Combat Scout happens fairly often in Ranked

light harbor
eager pumice
#

just like High Caliber

#

I feel like it's rare because it was a newer addition

deep swan
#

everyone DCPs a flood though

#

because it cuts your speed so much

eager pumice
#

subs to farm combat scout

light harbor
#

I didn't and got Unsinkable in Montana twice in a single week

#

It do be like that I guess

lucid wagon
#

i feel like even not dcping a flood makes it super difficult

deep swan
eager pumice
#

openwater Belfast my beloved

lucid wagon
#

because floods fuck you over in positioning n shit as well

eager pumice
#

(It's been a while since I actually played it)

light harbor
deep swan
#

lol, lmao

lucid wagon
#

what even is high caliber again

light harbor
#

Combat Scout in randoms is a pain in the ass

trail salmon
lucid wagon
#

all i know is i get high caliber pretty easily (as in normally i can get it at least once a week)

whole meteor
#

valpa isnt fair

wheat cobalt
whole meteor
#

you scout for yourself

eager pumice
light harbor
ivory gale
#

what is wrong with ptrvrkkfdlkdflk

light harbor
#

Oh wait 30%

deep swan
lucid wagon
#

yeah they usually come together

#

lmao

eager pumice
lucid wagon
#

Confed is just easy to get by farming

#

i feel like every time i play Rhode island i get confed

wheat cobalt
#

that's why halsey proc is epico

light harbor
#

Confed is super super easy

deep swan
wheat cobalt
#

and sansonetti

light harbor
#

Kraken is the hard one

#

IMO

lucid wagon
#

yeah obv

honest silo
#

Of what you guys are talking about?

wheat cobalt
#

it is hard to get value out of kraken yamamoto proc

lucid wagon
#

Unsinkable just doesnt happen because you have to be an idiot to get it

#

or purposely go for it

wheat cobalt
#

nuh uh

#

furious value

#

trust

lucid wagon
#

true..

#

i think German mains are most likely to get unsinkable tho

#

because they're weirdly good at using hydro only after they've been hit by a billion torpedoes, then losing hydro when the next salvo comes

#

from what ive observed in Shimakaze, Shigure, and Jager

mental sundial
eager pumice
light harbor
#

They pretend they do not see it

honest silo
#

Hey InterconKW.

lucid wagon
eager pumice
#

german bb mains use hydro in situations when they've essentially already killed themselves by rushing mid

lucid wagon
#

i got someone in my clan that can tell you

eager pumice
#

hydro does not work for that

lucid wagon
#

somehow a quantum engineer has a 44% wr on wows

#

legendary

eager pumice
#

hi andrea

light harbor
#

It turns out hydro is not an everything-proof shield

#

False advertizing

deep swan
#

Hydro magnetically attracts torps so they don't use it Clueless

lucid wagon
#

ngl i dont even use hydro to detect torpedoes

#

since im usually confident enough to dodge them myself anyway or predict them

#

(except when im in Harugumo or Jinan)

#

(I forget they exist)

trail salmon
honest silo
#

For sure today I will stop with doing battle and I will watch some G4ng video.

trail salmon
#

"I swear i wasn't observing the peedz"

deep swan
#

I use it against bad DD players more because you have no idea where the fuck they're going to torp

lucid wagon
#

LOL THAT DOES REMIND ME

deep swan
#

"hmm today I will torp all 3 sets behind this full speed Georgia"

honest silo
#

One question guys.

light harbor
#

I have been vaguely tempted to run DFAA on Moskva since she generally plays so far back

mental sundial
#

@livid bridge โ€œNo, spiders are arachnidsโ€ is what he said

honest silo
#

Is good use the manual secondary of a CV for defend against close enemy DD?

#

Or no?

light harbor
#

But then I get the unicorn game where I get to shove in Moskva

lucid wagon
#

I was playing Puerto Rico (god forbid) with a friend of mine who was in the Maine, and we tried to predict what this one Jinan player would torp out and we thought he'd torp out the area that 99% would assume so

#

instead we both got devstruck ๐Ÿ”ฅ

grizzled relic
#

PLS HELP ME

lucid wagon
#

apparently bro had a niche for torping the open ocean where nobody was spotted for 3 minutes

analog jackal
#

dw its nerfed

lucid wagon
#

like ig bro

analog jackal
#

that means its balanced!

#

trust

ivory gale
#

...where am i supposed to get damage and kills from...

analog jackal
#

wargaming would never lie

deep swan
#

or torping directly at your current location when you're turning

#

why even?

livid shadow
ivory gale
#

too far...

light harbor
#

This is why you should play rangemod

honest silo
#

I like quite a lot Cleveland and it's fun have 360ยฐ turrets.

light harbor
#

You need more range

mental sundial
trail salmon
#

chat use quantum physics when dodging peeds

grizzled relic
trail salmon
#

just dont observe them

deep swan
livid shadow
trail salmon
#

and they arent there

lucid wagon
grizzled relic
#

shima cooked the joe biden guy

lucid wagon
#

ur literally a quantum engineer

#

youre smart as fuck

#

44% wr in wows

#

gg

trail salmon
#

ggs

livid shadow
lucid wagon
#

dude could literally RETIRE at any moment as well so the "job" excuse doesnt even work

trail salmon
livid shadow
#

I have quantum shit next semster

lucid wagon
#

dude works 25 hours a week and complains about his boredom btw ๐Ÿ˜ญ

livid shadow
prisma hull
#

probably doesn't care enough to actually learn the game, I know people like that

light harbor
#

There's people like that in a lot of games

#

It's just very obvious in WoWS

prisma hull
#

A person I know is normally intelligent and then thinks that smoking up in his Napoli in front of a Salem when he's getting fucked is somehow a good play because maybe the Salem will forget to use his radar

lucid wagon
#

LOL

#

"guys trust me he WONT radar me"

#

ngl every 1/10 games i make the same bet

plush smelt
#

huh i wonder who the CV targeted this game

lucid wagon
#

(every single time i lose)

light harbor
#

It do be like that

eager pumice
honest silo
#

@lucid wagon One day would you like to do a division on EU?

lucid wagon
#

I could

light harbor
#

I see other people getting away with insane plays and then I try them and explode immediately

prisma hull
#

on the topic of stupid people

#

today I saw a secondary Lion

light harbor
honest silo
#

Hey TheTorukMakto.