game-discussion

[lone delta]

I dealt about 70 k to her even she was healing

[honest silo]

I for sure got so many credits today.

[radiant olive]

had that NC simply shot at your bow, you wouldn't have bounced any shells

[radiant olive]

so in other words, you got lucky

that the enemy NC didn't know where to shoot

[lone delta]

No I mean I show a 60-70 angle broadside to be able shoot full side sec. I got like half of her, before this guy realize something is killing him, he fired front turrets but missed, then switched to HE and died

He barely shoot me

[zenith tulip]

what do these 3 lines mean?

[lusty lagoon]

test ship

[zenith tulip]

right

thanks

[radiant olive]

i mean the fact that he hid behind an island is also an indicator he wasn't the best of players

[lusty lagoon]

what ship is that

[radiant olive]

deutschland

[zenith tulip]

is there a high tier dd with faster torp reload than jager?

[lone delta]

Yeah a just lucky to have him as a meat to eat

[radiant olive]

yeah, a sub

[lusty lagoon]

arden

[lone delta]

Hm, lemme think. I guess no. Even Halland have 100 sec without skills

[lusty lagoon]

he asked for a dd

[zenith tulip]

ew

[lusty lagoon]

there are actually a lot of dds with faster torp reload than jager

[zenith tulip]

subs were added only to make cvs more tolerable

[lusty lagoon]

if we're just counting purely torp reload

[lone delta]

Where can I find overmatch at the characteristics? Is it a mod?

[zenith tulip]

+high tier 9-10

[radiant olive]

yes

[lone delta]

Ah, ok

[lusty lagoon]

that's a lot

[radiant olive]

subs are DD's that can dive instead of smoke and have funny torpedoes that go nyooom around islands

speaking of which...

[zenith tulip]

thanks for the list

[lone delta]

Not exactly. Most subs haven't a guns/powerful as DDs ones I mean, It is not considered as DD.

[radiant olive]

it was a joke

[lone delta]

Now it is not a joke, when Italian subs are coming

[sick cargo]

secondary ohio gaming in ops

[honest silo]

Finished finally!

[lone delta]

They have 2 guns with 4 sec reload and firing for 8 kilo with SAP. And they have reload main battery booster

[tawdry turret]

grats

[lone delta]

They are meant to be DDs counterpart as WG said on trailer of it.

[radiant olive]

no need to tell me

i'm THE sub main around here

[honest silo]

So close to complete ZH-1.

[lone delta]

They struggling to have torpedoes reliability

[lone delta]

How many times you take a shower a week?

Sub mains stinks

[radiant olive]

that's rude

[honest silo]

Thanks _Kowatari.

[lone delta]

Sorry, don't mean to hurt you, just sarcasm

[radiant olive]

that is in no way shape or form interpretable as sarcasm

[turbid scroll]

FAH

[lone delta]

Then I apologize for my stupidity to have that sort of jokes

I am ex dota player

[lone delta]

Somewhere lost 3 k

[radiant olive]

speaking of funny torpedoes

[lone delta]

Mm?

Elbing has 50 knots torpedo speed

[radiant olive]

how is this for some curveballs

[zenith tulip]

black has even faster

[radiant olive]

these were just...

https://giphy.com/gifs/wizardsmagic-danny-trejo-day9-mtg-arena-AiF8ZsTESrDwRjEcIU

[lone delta]

It is the worst parametr on full game DDs

[radiant olive]

laughs in alliance

[ivory gale]

what a lovely sight

[honest silo]

Hey Chanderlin.

[ivory gale]

Sup Andrea

Deserved for this

[lone delta]

Hi my low tier pookies

[zenith tulip]

what ships do you usually grind credits with?

[ivory gale]

whatever t9 premium

[zenith tulip]

i started with jager cause i couldnt play one more musushi game

[ivory gale]

Lobster too buttery I see

[radiant olive]

i use my subs, but that's just me so...

[zenith tulip]

I earned the break

[ivory gale]

Ok Arden ||/j||

[radiant olive]

😄

[deep swan]

it's not a real WW2 submarine, showers are available

[torn goblet]

The new Italian sub.

[zenith tulip]

meatballs stirring party

[lone delta]

I have tier 9 bought for gold, but Carnot cannot stand any shells, I barely played it for 30 matches, and regret to have it. I gonna trade it for Sun Yat Sen with top up

[radiant olive]

for realsies though

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1463427839729733674/1506387092639318026/image.png?ex=6a12b10e&is=6a115f8e&hm=d4381df905c77ceb69e4ab23be9bb677d2854b74baa7a602fe45f0c9b548e033&

[zenith tulip]

how's sun yat sen? glass cannon?

[radiant olive]

not great imo

suffers badly from 6-gun syndrome

[ivory gale]

It's never enough

[zenith tulip]

i have the t7 teng she

guns are amazing but everything else is meh

[radiant olive]

teng she is great

[lone delta]

It is a damn large cruiser who have armor written in description, but not actually have it practically, it has yeah, but has it so much that every guns of BBs always will penetrate it without over pens

[radiant olive]

carnot is pretty much considered to be a terrible ship

i'm sorry for your loss

[raw surge]

well carnot is one of the worst t9s

[steel pier]

future tt sub

[radiant olive]

he knows, i told him already

🙂

[lone delta]

And you are losing like 40% fire power without shooting back turret. Show back turret always considered a to show broadside

[steel pier]

now, he knows double

[tawdry turret]

9 hours ping lmao

[steel pier]

i dont use pings on subs

[radiant olive]

i'm sorry, could you rephrase that please? I don't quite understand what you mean to say

[steel pier]

i use my torps only

[tawdry turret]

[radiant olive]

first part i understand

second part not so much

[steel pier]

and now, that they get smoke, i get an extra escape strategy, for my Ops

[little abyss]

SYS is pretty decent tbh

very much a tank BB

running it with the pan asian legendary commander is peak comedy

[radiant olive]

whats he do again?

[little abyss]

the relevant part is consumable reduction every 1.5m pot

[ivory gale]

Maruzensky yo

[radiant olive]

oh neat

[little abyss]

you take that, irpr, and he also has an enhanced 1 pt for dcp and repair party cooldown

[radiant olive]

kek

[steel pier]

we have an pan asia special commander, thats new for me

[radiant olive]

i can see it already

[little abyss]

by 1.5m you have a 60 second heal

which in a soyuz hull is comically easy to achieve

[radiant olive]

mind sharing your build? i feel like trying it out

[zenith tulip]

is the bungo line worth it?

[lone delta]

I mean when showing only bow you lose about 40% ship firepower, coz you losing 3 guns and 3/10 is about 33%. So when you are capable to shoot all 3 turrets with the rear one you always showing broadside to enemy

[radiant olive]

yes

[shadow rose]

https://x.com/WorldofWarships/status/2058156172603990277

World of Warships (@WorldofWarships)

X · May 23, 2026, 12:00 PM

[little abyss]

its standard tank bb just with the enhanced 1 pter instead of gunfeeder

[untold thistle]

I honestly prefer the millenial pr team

[little abyss]

lemme grab it

[radiant olive]

well, first part it depends on the ship, second part sure, but don't just go flat broadside, always keep an angle up

[raw surge]

wut

[shadow rose]

ima mog some destroyers (idk what that means)

[untold thistle]

Like holy shit the gen z one just sucks

[tawdry turret]

ima mog some destroyers

[tawdry turret]

[untold thistle]

Mog, jump, kill, attack

[sick cargo]

i kinda wanna buy it

[lucid wagon]

this game just sucks

[steel pier]

enlighten me, who is this commander for pan asia?

[little abyss]

you could also grab enhanced vigilance instead of gtg tbh

[honest silo]

Same.

[lucid wagon]

is that new Hampshire

[radiant olive]

@raw surge wanna see some curveballs?

[lucid wagon]

from Mir Korabley

[ivory gale]

Carnot has good front firing angles?

[sick cargo]

its so fat and beautiful

[ivory gale]

If you're kiting sure they're terribad

[lucid wagon]

trust

[sick cargo]

what is that

[lucid wagon]

that is ABSOLUTELY the Russian ship

[ivory gale]

Although still not even close to Seattle

[lucid wagon]

Oh the russian wows has a similar looking ship to that (basically just rhode island with an extra turret)

[ivory gale]

Bumass Seattle

[lucid wagon]

they named it New Hampshire

[honest silo]

Hey Chanderlin.

[sick cargo]

its maine

[ivory gale]

Hi! We greeted each other not so long ago

[lucid wagon]

i know

[sick cargo]

it has 16x406mm

[lucid wagon]

bro i know

i was joking

[wheat cobalt]

no

[untold thistle]

So did you get mecklenburg or stalingrad

[wheat cobalt]

no jokes allowed

[untold thistle]

Or are you still deciding

[lone delta]

Carnot have bad angles for rear turret , and vica versa when you are retreating you lose 70% fire power coz you can't shoot front turrets

[sick cargo]

i dont have enough steel yet

[honest silo]

Oh, sorry my mistake.

[wheat cobalt]

gg

[untold thistle]

Do some ranked games

As much as they suck to play at times

[tawdry turret]

ranked in ASIA 🥀

[sick cargo]

i can actually buy it but i think ill regret it

[ivory gale]

Sonion in what world these angles for rear turret are bad

[untold thistle]

Youll hemorrhage credits

[ivory gale]

What is our competition, Brest?

[lone delta]

So Carnot sucks very well. I will change it for Sun Yat Sen. It is the Soviet Soyuz with 6 457 guns instead 9 406

[lusty lagoon]

i thought it was illinois with an extra turret

[sick cargo]

it doesnt even have a good F key

yea ill probably not get maine

[untold thistle]

It's whatever tbh

You play it like a montana anyway

[lucid wagon]

shit you right

[untold thistle]

The f key is just a bonus, not the gimmick

[lusty lagoon]

ain't maine's F key kinda decent

[sick cargo]

ah but this thing

[lusty lagoon]

like

[lucid wagon]

I think the gimmick might just be the vomit of 406mm

[lusty lagoon]

u get to turn 3 fires into 1 fire

[sick cargo]

i would actually buy this

[lusty lagoon]

but yes the gimmick ain't the F key

it's the stupid salvo weight

[lucid wagon]

I think we should give the wporld of warships Vermont Russian Dispersion

[ivory gale]

Just greeting fellow honse enjoyer (I assume)

[lucid wagon]

or the Incomparable Russian Dispersion

[lone delta]

No of course no, but my opinion not about a bad angles of turret but all shells 406 mm and higher will always penetrate without overpen in my broadside even on angle

[lucid wagon]

give everything Russian Dispersion wows

[honest silo]

Wow.

[untold thistle]

It's a bonus if anything, unlike satsuma, hannover or ushakov F key which can provide better damage, maine's just kinda helps you live against fires and floods, which isn't bad but kinda lackluster compared to the other f key super BBs

[lone delta]

So I just need to fire 70% of guns to show bow

[steel pier]

so, do Sa Zhenbings special abilities also count for pve?

[livid bridge]

the non achiev ones do

[tawdry turret]

apart from traning room iirc

[sly valley]

should i run ifhe on schlieffen?

[tawdry turret]

and that nay said too

[steel pier]

so pot dmg and hitting with torps 6 times

[untold thistle]

You start fires less but you pen more stuff

Up to you

[livid bridge]

yes, you can get an extra charge of TRB

[lusty lagoon]

yes

[lucid wagon]

i feel like the supership cruisers all need nerfs

[sly valley]

okay thanks bois

[livid bridge]

and uh ig potential maybe is a thing

[untold thistle]

Piemonte and novo meanwhile

[river dune]

yes, it's better to run it

[lusty lagoon]

me when novosibirsk needs to get nerfed

[lucid wagon]

like literally who was in the planning room for fucking Conde Jacksonville and Annapolis

[lucid wagon]

Novo isnt even that bad

[ivory gale]

The very basics of cruiser gameplay is don't show broadside to anything that can potentially get a cit out of you
Also you get a large thick piece of plating here so it's only 431mm+ guns that are a threat to you
And even then, you still have 36mm deck
Like sure Carnot is mediocre but not unplayable

[lone delta]

The issue is that Carnot have too long and vulnerable citadel, just it, and when you are firing rear turret you always show citadel. It is all I wanna say

[lucid wagon]

omg my supership isnt as good as the other superships (dogs on everything else still)

[untold thistle]

Petro feels better and probably plays better

[lusty lagoon]

but like it doesn't need a nerf does it

[deep swan]

https://tenor.com/view/wows-wolf-of-wall-street-gif-22980690

[lusty lagoon]

it's not bad

but

[ivory gale]

no you don't?

[lusty lagoon]

doesn't feel amazing

and i mean

[ivory gale]

<30 degree angle required to shoot rear turret

[lusty lagoon]

conde and annapolis did get nerfed

[untold thistle]

Id play petro over novo

[lucid wagon]

not enough 😭

[untold thistle]

Id play ven over piemonte

[ivory gale]

Superships should've never been introduced to the game

[lucid wagon]

Supership Satsuma before the F-key change

holy man

[ivory gale]

You could squeeze in another salvo yes

[lusty lagoon]

we can however agree that colombo needs a further dispersion nerf

[ivory gale]

But she's been broken even after the nerf

[lusty lagoon]

cuz holy shit it's not even changed much at all

[lucid wagon]

i mean

accurate 510s will never not be broken

lmao

510s in general are just broken

[signal canyon]

just nuke the dispersion even more trust

[lucid wagon]

its gotten better

They need to reverse the Sicilia buff thing

[lusty lagoon]

it's just a tiny bit better

not enough

😭

[lucid wagon]

it got buffed to Sicilia's sigma

[sick cargo]

i looked at all the superships, most dont look good

[ivory gale]

accurate is broken, 510s is whatever, no diff with 460 outside of like
pen value
but pen can be adjusted to any desirable degree on any caliber

[sick cargo]

only conde and annapolis seem like actually possible options

[topaz coyote]

Hate 510s alpha

[sick cargo]

and then eagle for cv

[lucid wagon]

are we gonna forget about Jacksonville

[topaz coyote]

One cit is half your HP

[lucid wagon]

i mean the Alpha of Incomp

or Satsuma

is literally just nuclear

[signal canyon]

get that thing away from me

[ivory gale]

Other ships have more guns 🤷‍♂️

[signal canyon]

the incomparable is the holy hand grenade of antioch

[ivory gale]

Maine's 16 guns

Go brrr

[topaz coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/thi-team-bubba-gif-20145368

[cold geyser]

ALRIGHT BOYOS WHATS THE TAKE

I need a t9 prem for grinding credits on eu

[obsidian oriole]

Hmmm

[lucid wagon]

Kearsarge

best ship ever

[topaz coyote]

Zuma

[signal canyon]

make it have 19k alpha lmao

[steel pier]

Ägir

[honest silo]

Iwami.

[signal canyon]

also yeah stalingrad or incomparable (i do have moskva and petro)

[obsidian oriole]

Well. Tulsa and Azuma are the good T9 cruisers. Kearsarge is only good T9 battleship, and same for Groningen with its class

[ivory gale]

Black, Groningen, Kearsarge, rest are kinda ugh

[topaz coyote]

Probably Incomp

[ivory gale]

Tulsa is just t9 Baltimore nostalgy

[cold geyser]

also obv pommern and jager

[ivory gale]

Wouldn't say it's good

[cold geyser]

just didnt fit

[ivory gale]

Azuma is uh

dmg farmer that's about it

[signal canyon]

pommerm my beloved

[obsidian oriole]

I would say it is

[honest silo]

I honestly enjoy a lot USS Tulsa.

[lucid wagon]

Groningen isnt even good

[signal canyon]

yeah i do like its playstyle better

also stalingrad has to deal with planes now from everything

[cold geyser]

the thing that would be cool about pommern is that i could use my schlieffen / prem zieten commander on it

[lucid wagon]

Groningen is the definition of 0 impact

[obsidian oriole]

It definitely won't beat a Des Moines for example, but Tulsa isn't bad after the dispersion buff

[cold geyser]

so that would be extremely economical

[signal canyon]

its a good trainer

[signal canyon]

didnt it get destroyer dispersion

[boreal fable]

Does castilla have good ap? And Does Napoli have good ap?

[topaz coyote]

And Stalin just gets outclassed by Moskva

[obsidian oriole]

Yes

[cold geyser]

more like ECXP grinder :P

[lucid wagon]

Napoli AP is quite fine and Castilla's AP got nuked lol

[boreal fable]

pardon

[ivory gale]

...wait where are my Friesland stats

[signal canyon]

i love my humble moskva

[rare schooner]

You have no statistics for this ship.

[signal canyon]

i should get it back

[ivory gale]

?

[boreal fable]

castilla actually has better ap than napoli

[bronze flame]

Hmmmm where are the anime submarine girls

[signal canyon]

holy jesus

[lucid wagon]

Castilla pre-nerf AP

[cold geyser]

this is the port on EU

[lucid wagon]

mmmm

[obsidian oriole]

Would have better if they didn't shaft the burst fire

[honest silo]

Nice port you have.

[topaz coyote]

Decent AP, Napoli is pretty inaccurate tho

[boreal fable]

Current castilla ap is betetr than napoli, but yes they should revert castilla ap back to the bb beater it was

[bronze flame]

Not 1 cv

Or sub

[cold geyser]

"???

[signal canyon]

yo the hyuga

[obsidian oriole]

I would like to see that

[cold geyser]

me when i don't use my eyes

[signal canyon]

as it should be

[obsidian oriole]

Because the burst fire as is

Is paying a price for not a good trade off

[topaz coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/verycat-cateat-gif-7339469281817108398

[cold geyser]

sir

[lucid wagon]

how much better is it actually. I'm very willign to bet its literally just the exact same with some minor velocity changes which increase/decrease the angle of impact

[bronze flame]

Appreciate some of the cvs and subs they fr care about u twin💜

[lucid wagon]

other then that its relatively same

[ivory gale]

Since when?
On paper it's slow and has no concealment but in practice people are stupid enough to be perfectly fine thanks to hydro and HE spam

[signal canyon]

i only appreciate them when im in a wisconsin

[lucid wagon]

like omg the napoli i.e has like 330mm pen and Castilla ap has 350mm pen

how massive

[bronze flame]

Im blind i wear glasses......oooo e sex

[cold geyser]

lol

[little abyss]

castilla gets like 20mm more ap pen at all ranges

[boreal fable]

yeah it's literally napoli ap but higher velocity which also gives it higher pen

[bronze flame]

I have the highest glasses prescription for my age

[lucid wagon]

Its just that it has 0 impact. Farming doesnt really help much in 9/10 cases and if the enemy DD can grow like 3 fucking braincells then Groningen is suddenly shit out of luck

[little abyss]

but really the benefit is having cruiser dispersion

[cold geyser]

ok so what was the verdict

[light harbor]

Napoli dispersion is... certainly something

[topaz coyote]

You would think that but this is wows

[bronze flame]

Midway coral sea

[ivory gale]

3 braincells is a lot to ask from randoms so it works 99% of the time

[cold geyser]

i got lost in the sauce

[boreal fable]

Napoli has the same dispersion as petro

[lucid wagon]

true..

[light harbor]

She does not

[cold geyser]

definitely the verdict was groningen no???

[light harbor]

Napoli dispersion is way more wonky

[ivory gale]

Oh this is where my Friesland stats are

[lucid wagon]

i mean i run napoli main gun build

get trolled

[cold geyser]

you know what

[boreal fable]

no that's just like... a fact, it's napoli ap with higher pen and less flight time

[cold geyser]

i dont have any us cruisers on this acct

[lucid wagon]

i literally do not care for Napoli secondaries

[light harbor]

The guns are fine, just that Petro dispersion is way better

[bronze flame]

Ima run goon build

[cold geyser]

i mean

ok i have bridgeport and congress

[boreal fable]

It has SIMILAR dispersion where it's linear at first then bumps up at a certain range similar to petro

[lucid wagon]

is it actually lmao

[cold geyser]

so i just straight up lied

[boreal fable]

yeah it is

[lucid wagon]

I mean Castilla has good accuracy so thats already +1 over Napoli

[light harbor]

It's way way more exaggerated on Napoli

[boreal fable]

• burst

[wide minnow]

Why are you giving me this ordeal?

[boreal fable]

Does ship tool account for the sudden increase in dispersion?

[light harbor]

Castilla suffers from losing Napoli's armor scheme

[untold thistle]

Weekend

[light harbor]

Sure does

[cold geyser]

can someone tell me what this means on halford

like, isnt it already american smoke

whats enhanced about it

[wide minnow]

Look at that carma

[ivory gale]

People when they get skill based matchmaked

[light harbor]

That's just american smoke

[cold geyser]

o

[topaz coyote]

Thing is, Napoli's selling point never were the guns

[honest silo]

I think it last longer if not wrong.

[light harbor]

It's enhanced compared to standard destroyers so they mention it

[honest silo]

Hey Gl4ss_Heart.

[cold geyser]

so thats how they describe american smoke?

[topaz coyote]

It was the smog, secs and armor

[cold geyser]

ok

[topaz coyote]

Hello

[lucid wagon]

you know im gnna be honest

[honest silo]

Oh, ok.

[lucid wagon]

i never use the Napoli secondaries

[topaz coyote]

[lucid wagon]

maybe thats why i dont find Napoli as thrilling but i literally do not care about secondaries

[light harbor]

I mean Napoli can play like a way tankier Marseille

[lucid wagon]

because secondaries are just fucking boring

[little abyss]

thats not the selling point of napoli either

the selling point of napoli is being tanky as hell

[light harbor]

You can flank super aggressively in her

[lucid wagon]

ungodly armor scheme

[boreal fable]

Napoli has better than cruiser dispersion >11km

[light harbor]

The secondaries only really exist to shred gunbotes anyway

[topaz coyote]

armor

[little abyss]

ungodly armor scheme, pretty decent maneuverability for the armor, smoke, very good conceal for the tankiness

[boreal fable]

I should just turbo grief castilla stats so they buff it

[lucid wagon]

i mean occassionally they can fuck up BBs that dont have the best armor

[light harbor]

If you really want strong secondaries to deal with everything use Adalbert

[boreal fable]

Iwami is slept on in my opinion

[lucid wagon]

and cruisers

[light harbor]

Fires are the great equalizer

[honest silo]

Enjoy Iwami Brandon0sh.

[light harbor]

Ehhhh

Not really in my experience

[lucid wagon]

too bad it has a giga massive 27mm nose for annihilation

LOL

[signal canyon]

jesus christ

[lucid wagon]

and shitty decka rmor as well

[light harbor]

That's just how it do be

[boreal fable]

And honestly the worst guns of any tier 10 cruiser

[topaz coyote]

It's standard cruiser deck armor

[light harbor]

I don't find secondaries particularly engaging so I have no interest in playing Adalbert

[little abyss]

??

[light harbor]

[little abyss]

Adalbert guns are great

[boreal fable]

Real.

[topaz coyote]

If you complain about 30mm deck when you have 100mm sides you have lost your mind

[little abyss]

Adalbert guns are probably the highlight of the ship to be honest

[cold geyser]

EL = GF on the outdated build doc right?

[light harbor]

I mean in comparison to Napoli it's understandable

[boreal fable]

Plunge moment

[light harbor]

Napoli armor scheme is a lot more practical

[signal canyon]

i love the aldabert because you can just shoot into smoke screens

[topaz coyote]

[signal canyon]

and has a lot less superstructure

[boreal fable]

Cross map moment

[light harbor]

That too

[little abyss]

that said ive found adalbert to be acceptably tanky for what i need her to do

[cold geyser]

ty

[topaz coyote]

If you get cross mapped and plunged in Adalbert that is genuinenly on you

[boreal fable]

Asia and it's freaking shikishima pandemic wouldnt ever let you enjoy a cruiser

[little abyss]

like the guns are good enough you can have a good game playing conservatively and just using your 9 350mm guns with BC 2.15 sigma

[light harbor]

The drawback of 30mm deck is mainly every CL in existence full-penning the deck and Bungo being a thing

[obsidian oriole]

That reminds me. I got overmatched by a 406 in Adalbart

[boreal fable]

Simply how

[cold geyser]

efficient loader or whatever it was called b4

[obsidian oriole]

Not sure if its weird armor interaction, or I showed too much side accidently

[light harbor]

The nose is 27

[topaz coyote]

You tell me, I am not the one getting plunged in Adalbert

[boreal fable]

The bow gets overmatched by 406s

[light harbor]

Some people aim for the deck deliberately

[boreal fable]

I don't even have adalbert, taht shit boring as

[obsidian oriole]

Hmmm. Thought it was thicker. Kay then

[light harbor]

But that's few and far in between

[ivory gale]

Feels like a crime to make the game look like this...

[boreal fable]

unfortunately not

[light harbor]

Most people remain clueless as to how overmatch works

[boreal fable]

German moment, the cl's get ice breakers but not the CAs

[shadow rose]

https://tenor.com/view/that's-what-she-said-the-office-michael-scott-gif-11275419961994769326

[obsidian oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-doge-gif-24837098

[shadow rose]

im sorry

[obsidian oriole]

You're not

[light harbor]

Stares at Wisconsin aiming at my midsection in a DM 5km away

This is fine

[rustic hearth]

[obsidian oriole]

Anyways. I was lucky

[boreal fable]

So how come BREMEN gets an icebreaker but agir doesn't... germans smh

[obsidian oriole]

I found a Wii

[obsidian oriole]

That's one of my suggested buffs to Agir

[untold thistle]

All I really know is that overmatch means I pen the armor regardless of angling, but that doesn't mean it arms the fuse

[obsidian oriole]

A 40mm ice breaker

[topaz coyote]

Play Mario Kart

[boreal fable]

Give agir giga funky napoli secondary accuracy

[obsidian oriole]

No. I considered secondary buffs, but wrote them off as useless

[steel pier]

its ok, its only an Addibert. nothing to worry abt

[topaz coyote]

it usually does considering how steep the angle is

[light harbor]

It is unfortunately something you need to learn

[boreal fable]

I think giving agir stalingrad dispersion would be balanced

[boreal fable]

One of the worst cruisers, ngl to you

[light harbor]

Like knowing all tier 10 heavy cruisers have 30mm midsection or more

[steel pier]

lets give Sewastopol the heal of Valpappers and vice versa

[cold geyser]

ASS VIEW LEAVES SOMETHING TO BE DESIRED

[steel pier]

i dont even want any of this line. apart from Admiral Scheer

[obsidian oriole]

Compared to the Mantueffel and Schroeder, even Napoli, Agir does not have enough secondary guns. Buffing up its dispersion will just cause it to not really be better than most other secondary ships. So instead of spending potential for better secondaries, we focus to armor and main guns

[untold thistle]

It sucks when I can't even view the armor of some cruisers because I don't own them nor are they in the armory

[topaz coyote]

That water looks like ice

[lucid wagon]

I mean Adalbert has really good side plating but the deck and nose is so dogshit that Adalbert gets punished super easily anyway

its kind of funny

[steel pier]

i want my prem IX Scharnhorst preliminary design

[boreal fable]

If it touches an armour plate 14.3x less than the caliber of the shell it will normalise the shell in calculations to be 0 degrees to the armoured section

[lucid wagon]

you can download a mod

[light harbor]

There's mods that let you do that

[lucid wagon]

it shows you all premiums n stuff

[untold thistle]

I know that part

[obsidian oriole]

That'll set Agir apart

[cold geyser]

the expanded tech tree mod lets u do that

[obsidian oriole]

And not have her still being weaker than the secondary cruisers

[untold thistle]

Im not using any mods anytime soon

[light harbor]

Why not?

[untold thistle]

Bugs.

[boreal fable]

If agir had napoli dispersion it would have an effective dpm of 43000 at 12km, making it higher than schroder

[light harbor]

Bugs in the mods themselves or bugs that cause issues in-game?

[light harbor]

Yes, because Schroder has GK secondary dispersion

[untold thistle]

Bugs that causes issues in game

[light harbor]

Huh

I'll admit, I've literally never had those

[untold thistle]

I really don't want to risk another camera unlock moment

[boreal fable]

Yeah

[topaz coyote]

I had that without mods too, don't worry

[light harbor]

I believe that's an issue with the patch ye

[untold thistle]

Welp

[boreal fable]

Wait... why does Azume have the 6th highest secondary dpm of tier 9 cruisers

[light harbor]

https://discord.com/channels/669128285527080961/1500887940446818324

[untold thistle]

The secondary turrets are harugumo turrets

[topaz coyote]

Cuz it's a brawling cruiser

[light harbor]

Has a whole thread and everything

[boreal fable]

Trueee

[boreal fable]

Imagine making those controllable

lels

[light harbor]

Haku has them as well I believe

[boreal fable]

When you've had enough of wows... 🙏

[untold thistle]

Shikishima

[edgy marten]

so that explains why I saw people randomly going AFK today

[zenith tulip]

place your bets

[light harbor]

I'm surprised I didn't have that issue yet considering I played 17 games yesterday

[boreal fable]

I played 52 games between yesterday and today and haven't had a bug

[ivory gale]

And you couldn't return via alt shift backspace?

[untold thistle]

And how would I know that works?

[ivory gale]

that's freecam hotkey

[boreal fable]

its not a replay bro

[ivory gale]

it works in regular battles bro

[boreal fable]

What.

[untold thistle]

Didn't know the hotkeys

[boreal fable]

Genuine?

[lucid wagon]

when it happened to me

it just straight up fucked my game

[untold thistle]

Because the game doesn't tell me anyway

[lucid wagon]

like it literally broke my wows entirely

it went beyond just normal crashing

[light harbor]

It also causes game crashes IIRC

[lucid wagon]

like i couldnt even open wows

no dude it wouldnt even let me OPEn the game to the point i had to quickly redownload it

it was so weird

[tawdry turret]

yea so far symboli's is the worst

most ppl here only stops at game froze

[light harbor]

Might want to report it in the thread then

[obsidian oriole]

But fewer guns, and fewer penetration

[ivory gale]

Well that was a different case ig
More often than not, though, people just accidentally smash alt shift backspace and have pikachuface for the rest of the battle

[boreal fable]

Im bouta get bogged how does one get two trailers over a flooded mud road

[obsidian oriole]

You have to remember that the secondary cruisers also carry a complement of 6 inch guns as well

[lucid wagon]

how would i go about collecting

the evidence required to report that

because it was so confusing

[obsidian oriole]

Which Agir does not have

[steel pier]

soviet missile carrier, one of the best trucks i own

[boreal fable]

That's included already, it''s do 43000 making it just worse than mantaufel

[steel pier]

which of them?

[obsidian oriole]

Nearly all of them

Actually. Yeah all of them

[sonic onyx]

so is this camera bug a new thing or

[lucid wagon]

i mean its been in the g ame for years

[boreal fable]

Dawg I got turbo bogged

[obsidian oriole]

Adalbart line, Schroeder, Napoli, and Michelangelo

[lucid wagon]

but its happening a lot more it seems

escalating ig

[steel pier]

cuz ik, Admiral Scheer has 15cm SK (or 14,9cm as this is the actual caliber) and 10,5cm AA guns

[untold thistle]

Okay wtf, the harugumo turrets on azuma pen 30mm by default 💀

[sonic onyx]

i didnt even press backspace

💀

[obsidian oriole]

Which I don't really want

[sonic onyx]

backspace is on the opposite side of the keyboard

[obsidian oriole]

I don't want something weaker than an existing option, that'll just be better regardless

Instead of focusing on improving Agir's secondaries, there's more fruit in improving its main guns

[boreal fable]

Yes but agir guns are 50x better

[obsidian oriole]

They're only 8x2 128s

[boreal fable]

305s?

[light harbor]

Seems like it

[obsidian oriole]

Okay? So focus on improving those

Instead of the secondary guns

[boreal fable]

We are not on the same page bro

[light harbor]

I've only seen people complaining about it since the start of the new patch

[sonic onyx]

LMAO i cant even log back in

immediate crit error

[light harbor]

Yup

[sonic onyx]

punished for playing the game i guess

[lucid wagon]

it apparently does that

but for me it wouldnt even let me open the game

[boreal fable]

Agir's main guns are 50x better than mataffy, if you buffed agir secondaries to be just slightly worse it but all round be balanced

[obsidian oriole]

You're wanting to improve its secondary guns. I'm telling its wasteful to do that, since we can just focus to the main guns

[lucid wagon]

like i'd try to load up on steam again it would 'start' but then nothing would happen

lmao

[tawdry turret]

yea you guys had the worst experiences

[lucid wagon]

no more wows at ALL

[untold thistle]

Good ending

[boreal fable]

yk I actually said it'd be cool to give agir stalingrad dispersion but sure

[sonic onyx]

my div mate got the same thing

[edgy marten]

freedom from wows, pog

[obsidian oriole]

Improve its armor and its main guns. Don't try to force it into secondaries, where it will just be worse than the existing options

[light harbor]

The game not launching on restart has also been a recurring thing I think

[tawdry turret]

it is fixable

[boreal fable]

Agir armour is solid

[obsidian oriole]

Just because something is German, does not mean it has to be a secondary ship

[tawdry turret]

unlike camera freeze

[untold thistle]

I wonder what WG fucked up this time for this bug to happen

[boreal fable]

Agir torps are uh... cope

[edgy marten]

no

Agir armor isn't solid by any means

[steel pier]

once i agree. we dont need more and more sec ships

[edgy marten]

old RU spaghett code broke

😔

[sonic onyx]

so like am i supposed to be able to log back in after the match ends

[lucid wagon]

i mean my thing was so bad it literally fucked up the integrity of my files

[sonic onyx]

or am i just locked out

[lucid wagon]

so steam had to redownload some stuff

[ivory gale]

Genuinely what is even the point of Boise compared to Helena now if your regen rates won't actually allow you to print the ship back 4 times like Conq cause they're that of a regular cruiser

[edgy marten]

you know what, you're right, we need a line of secondary DDs

[boreal fable]

The armour belt is nice

[steel pier]

https://tenor.com/view/the-death-of-stalin-meme-soviet-anti-soviet-behavior-guilty-gif-27253033

[lucid wagon]

i also run like 500 mods

[light harbor]

I believe the technical term is 'fucked'

[lucid wagon]

related to camos n stuff

[boreal fable]

Orkan legit

Higher sec dpm than schlieffen

[light harbor]

There's a couple people who weren't running mods who ran into the same issue

[sonic onyx]

i dont think any of my mods would cause this?

i run all just qol stuff

[lucid wagon]

So it probably isnt just a consumable monitors thing like some people suspect

i mean do you guys run consumable monitor

[light harbor]

https://discord.com/channels/669128285527080961/1500887940446818324

[obsidian oriole]

Oh. Forgot the Wii didn't use HDMI. Man

[boreal fable]

I think this bug is region specific because I haven't seen or heard a single person from asia complaining about such a bug

[light harbor]

Here's the link again

[lucid wagon]

I doubt it

[obsidian oriole]

Need to get a AV input to HDMI adapter

[lucid wagon]

it happened to me on NA and EU

[boreal fable]

the weird round things... :(

[boreal fable]

I see no asia

[sonic onyx]

or maybe just asia isnt that vocal about stuff

[untold thistle]

Want me to fuck around and find out in asia?

[light harbor]

Why would a bug be server specific beyond the hamster just dying?

The clients are exactly the same otherwise

[boreal fable]

Probably because they don't speak english

[boreal fable]

Yeha go for it bro

[sonic onyx]

not vocal in english channels yes

[lucid wagon]

i suspect we'll just have randomly afk people i guess

[untold thistle]

Its 11pm, and I need to compensate for my 4am shenanigans

[lucid wagon]

for the time being

[boreal fable]

ill div with you if you do ge ton

[lucid wagon]

i mean maybe thats why i had some random DD player earlier just randomly go afk as he was fighting G. Hoffman player?

[tawdry turret]

he's gonna sleep

[untold thistle]

I won't 🙂

[boreal fable]

smh

[sonic onyx]

well i was playing smaland and had 1k damage before it bugged so 💀

[tawdry turret]

[boreal fable]

gn LOSER

[untold thistle]

Can discord stop auto emojifying my emoticons

[boreal fable]

:)

[tawdry turret]

this so gg

[boreal fable]

:(

[sonic onyx]

you can turn it off in settings

[boreal fable]

:P

[light harbor]

RIP Smaland PR

[tawdry turret]

settings

[light harbor]

You are now a red player

[untold thistle]

:(

[obsidian oriole]

Oh that's neat

[boreal fable]

Gotta intentionally gimp your stats so the cv with matchmakermonitor doesnt hump you

[feral path]

AV input to HDMI adaoter? Only adapters that exist are those that support LVDS or SerDes or whatever data signal cables. DVI cables support VGA in addition to HDMI, obviously, the VGA part doesnt go into HDMI with an adapter.

[obsidian oriole]

This Wii has the GameCube ports on top

[boreal fable]

Ah I found the road

[ivory gale]

have wows numbers died just now

[untold thistle]

😔

[light harbor]

Still works for me

[sonic onyx]

literally will not matter, i spam smaland in triple so its 85%+ wr

[steel pier]

you dont need road comrade. you only need a path.

[ivory gale]

oh, just loaded the page

[obsidian oriole]

The Wii uses a different port. Its plug in just ends in the 3 color AV. They make AV to HDMI for it

[boreal fable]

Pretty sure you can jsut play smaland for 85% wr

[rocky jolt]

I’m trying to figure out what ship I wanna get, Tromp, Sherman, or Groningen. Any suggestions?

[light harbor]

Sherman is the best of those

[boreal fable]

For what purpose

[obsidian oriole]

But I did notice something with mt Wii

[sonic onyx]

no what

its not that insane

[rocky jolt]

Fun

[obsidian oriole]

Its an earlier model, has the 4 GameCube plugs on top, so it can do GameCube games as well

[rocky jolt]

Guess credits would also be nice

[boreal fable]

Groni makes most credits, sherman gets most damage, tromp bullies and griefs people the most, tromp is probably the funnest?

[light harbor]

Sherman has engine boost now

[boreal fable]

What when

Why

How

[light harbor]

[obsidian oriole]

It got buffed recently

[boreal fable]

Did they make it so you have to pick between engine boost and DFAA

[light harbor]

Yes

[boreal fable]

like the gearing line

[lucid wagon]

what if im THAT much of an insane player

that i am 85% wr

[boreal fable]

I see

[light harbor]

So you take engine boost because obviously

[boreal fable]

What else was buffed

[rocky jolt]

I have the Pommern to grind credits, is Groni better?

[boreal fable]

Why would they do taht

[boreal fable]

Much much better

[sonic onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/stfu-lil-bro-gif-881252686023637754

[boreal fable]

Give groni a speed boost too bro

[light harbor]

In randoms? Pommern is possibly the worst option to grind credits

[lucid wagon]

waaahhhh

[rocky jolt]

I do the AI 5 v 12 battle

[light harbor]

Then Pommern is fine

[boreal fable]

Okay pommern is better than groni

[light harbor]

Groningen is pretty bad in PvE modes

I'd take Sherman since she works alright in operations

[obsidian oriole]

Oh yeah. I need an HDMI cable too

[boreal fable]

moskva

[obsidian oriole]

I always run out of stuff

[rocky jolt]

I’m pretty bad at the game but I need credits to keep getting my tech trees done

[steel pier]

only 4k coal missing for my Moskva

[boreal fable]

I somehow have 26 HMDI cables

[obsidian oriole]

I had a lot

[boreal fable]

One of them is 16 meter

[obsidian oriole]

But when I did my console set up, I used an HDMI splitter

So it has a lot of HDMI cables hooked into it

[rocky jolt]

I do want to play random battles, I was just saying I play Pommern in PvE

[obsidian oriole]

And its going to a lot of things. Xbox 360, Xbox Series X, PS5, PS3, PS2

What's one more

[boreal fable]

The map told me this was a road... is this road in the room with us orr...?

[light harbor]

Sherman is the best option there as well

[obsidian oriole]

I'm closing to finishing my console collection, and having a Wii that can play the GameCube games is a very big advantage

[boreal fable]

I sold my xbox 360 before it went silly red, muahahah

[light harbor]

You can have fun in Tromp but not much game impact relatively

[obsidian oriole]

Mine hasn't thankfully

[boreal fable]

Don't connect to wifi 🙏

[obsidian oriole]

That's not what causes it, Doctor

[cold geyser]

sherman has some very cool torpedo snipe potential

people complain about the torpedoes, but its unique for america to have 1x torps

[obsidian oriole]

Mine is a later model anyways, one that had the soldering issue fixed

[boreal fable]

I've heard connecting it to the wifi causing it to update and kill itself

[rocky jolt]

So Sherman > Groni or Tromp?

[cold geyser]

and they have 16.5 km range

[light harbor]

IMO, yes

[obsidian oriole]

That's not how it works

[boreal fable]

For what you play, yeah

[rocky jolt]

I gonna play random battles

[boreal fable]

Entire submarine 😭

[cold geyser]

i hit a von zuckerhoff like 3 separate times with torp snipes yeterday from DOWNTOWN

[light harbor]

This is my Sherman build

[obsidian oriole]

Red ring comes from the soldering points on the motherboard melting and leaking off their points, which causes a fatal error for the motherboard

[cold geyser]

he was getting so mad

[light harbor]

It's a fairly standard farming gunbote setup

[obsidian oriole]

My Xbox 360, which is a later model, fixed that issue

[unique hemlock]

hydro skill issue

[boreal fable]

play randoms, wants credits = groningen
plays randoms want to grief the reds = tromp
plays randoms, wants to have big damage numbers = sherman

[cold geyser]

hydro duration issue 🥀

[obsidian oriole]

My console collection is gonna be hard to finish

[boreal fable]

Ah I see, alright

[obsidian oriole]

Because the last 2 are the most painful

Nintendo 3DS and the Switch 2

[ivory gale]

tromp is unethical to your team

[boreal fable]

I've got a 3ds hehe

Idk where the charger is tho

[ivory gale]

shit's dead weight more than shima

[cold geyser]

thats super exaggerating

the way a lot of people solo in randoms play it, yes

[light harbor]

Tromp is funny though

[obsidian oriole]

3DS is still super expensive despite its age

[cold geyser]

they play CV tromp

which is fucking stupid

and a waste

[light harbor]

It's not really

[boreal fable]

Alright so my trunk is not trucking how a truck usually trucks

[steel pier]

keep going, just a bit, just a bit, just a bit.........and done

[light harbor]

Shima has more game impact

[cold geyser]

my point is, when you're playing tromp as a CV, of course you have no impact

[boreal fable]

Whinch clutch 🙏

[ivory gale]

impactforce kinda silly

[light harbor]

Tromp also eats a lot of shit and is slow as sin

[cold geyser]

you're already giving your position away

with your airstrikes

u might as well make use of that

[light harbor]

?

What is that supposed to mean?

[cold geyser]

? are you offended?

[boreal fable]

You could say tromp is a ragnar, but with an airstrike and cope torpedoes instead of radar and a busted detect for some reason

[cold geyser]

I'm not talking about YOU

i'm talking about the royal you

[light harbor]

No, I'm confused

[cold geyser]

you can create your own torpedo crossfires and use airstrikes to make the enemy turn into them

[light harbor]

Also Tromp has a really wonky armor scheme which means she loves eating damage

[cold geyser]

you can hide behind friendly smokes, and you can make people turn their guns

[boreal fable]

Yeah that interal belt it has for some reason

[lucid wagon]

dude the randoms is actually impossible right now

[cold geyser]

torpedoes + airstrikes is unethical

[ivory gale]

And double the dispersion
Wait why tf ragnar has pinpoint accuracy hello

never paid attention to that

[cold geyser]

geneva needs to get on that shit

[light harbor]

To turbo-fuck destroyers she catches

[severe plank]

If only tromp’s bombs could pen more

Then she’d be more hilarious

[boreal fable]

yeah ragnar ahs elbing disp

[cold geyser]

what im saying is u dont have to rely on tromp bomb pen

people automatically turn to dodge

[boreal fable]

"Submarine dispersion"

[cold geyser]

u can make them turn into your torps, which are much more lethal

[sonic onyx]

just slow down

[cold geyser]

correct

tell that to the thousands of random players that queue every day

[sonic onyx]

also at that point just play a torpboat

[cold geyser]

sure

im not making an argument for tromp being more impactful than sherman or shima or whatever

[boreal fable]

That strategy would be betetr in ZH 1 over tromp

[cold geyser]

im just saying that sitting back and doing nothing but using strikes is the wrong way to play, and contributes to people thinking the ship is useless

that is not a hot take

[light harbor]

No one was arguing that here?

[boreal fable]

It also literally has ragnar guns, cant forget about that

[cold geyser]

this exchange is primarily what i was addressing

theres no big argument going on

lmao

[light harbor]

[boreal fable]

Had to get backup

[boreal fable]

The 3ds is expensive???

Really how much

@obsidian oriole

[light harbor]

Probably just because they're not being produced anymore

[cold geyser]

yes and post covid

[light harbor]

Must be over 15-year-old hardware by now

[boreal fable]

Yeah of course but majority of old consoles are like cheap cheap

[cold geyser]

i have a new 2ds xl, i could probably sell it for like $300

[boreal fable]

Hm really

I should find the charger

And sell it for mega

[cold geyser]

new 2ds xl actually released after the switch 1

lmao

[light harbor]

I mean the Switch is also 10 years old now no?

Or was that a 2018 release

[shadow rose]

get on my level plebs

android is da wae

[obsidian oriole]

More than new

The 3DS released at 249.99

[boreal fable]

What the hell I have that exact one in perfect condition

All black

[obsidian oriole]

Yeah. That's why I hate collecting Nintendo products

People keep too much value on them

Which is why I'm not thrilled about trying to get a 3DS

[jolly tartan]

was thinking of getting that or similar, running windows 11

[boreal fable]

Huh I see, goodluck bro

You could always not get one btw

[shadow rose]

the ayn thor is pretty much perfect, a bit of a bear to set up but once set up it just works

[obsidian oriole]

I grew up a bit playing the 3DS a bit

[jolly tartan]

yea

[obsidian oriole]

So unfortunately, nostalgia hits like a fucking brick

[boreal fable]

Oh yeah that's how it is then

[pseudo sparrow]

Anyone know when shipstool will be updated?

[boreal fable]

I don't do nostalgia eprsonally

[obsidian oriole]

I do a little. I remember some notable games on the 3DS, along with some weird ones

[radiant olive]

@shadow rose #game-discussion message

[boreal fable]

I remember having a leapfrog as a kid

Sheesh taht was ANCIENT technology

[shadow rose]

@jolly tartan ayaneo makes a windows dual screen

[radiant olive]

Rate the curves

[obsidian oriole]

But it annoys me how the 3DS has exceeded its original value, rather than go down, like most game tech is supposed to be

But I blame Nintendo fans for that

They are an annoying fan base for a person wanting to be casual

[shadow rose]

woooooooow lol

[obsidian oriole]

Like hey

[boreal fable]

Man what the hell

[radiant olive]

Gotta admit those were beautiful

[obsidian oriole]

I want to play a Pokémon game for the 3DS... hey

Its 80 dollars

Because Pokémon fans treat them like rare currency

[boreal fable]

Nintendo moment lmao

[boreal fable]

Well if all of them think it's worth a lot, then unfortunately it is worth a lot

[shadow rose]

like i always tell ppl, you already have a powerful emulation device in ur pocket

[lucid wagon]

dude

i literally cannot win in randoms right now

omg bro fuck solo

[boreal fable]

what boat

[radiant olive]

Just play a sub

[lucid wagon]

Napoli then Colbert

[boreal fable]

Just play a dd with a giga smoke and smoek your entire team then jsut spot and watch netflix

My tactic for ranked

[radiant olive]

They're broken apparently, but then people also say they have no match impact

[light harbor]

Just play Ragnar

https://tenor.com/view/shrimp-as-that-clash-royale-hee-hee-hee-haw-gif-25054781

[boreal fable]

Subs are broken and have huge match impact, the average sub just doesnt know how to use said imapct which usually results in bottom of the scoreboard type shi

[pseudo sparrow]

Ranked has been so much more fun now, its accualy possible to play cruiser in Bronze again

[boreal fable]

Which is good bcs if sub players were good I'd uninstall

[jolly tartan]

ikr

was hoping for it

[boreal fable]

Ranked should never be below T8

[jolly tartan]

i think its a bit over $700, no?

[light harbor]

Tier 7 ranked with heals would be fun

[shadow rose]

starts at $1400

[jolly tartan]

0_0

yea

[shadow rose]

ikr

[pseudo sparrow]

So true, lvl 8 is almost to low, I whis they put it on 9

[boreal fable]

Just get to silver ig

Which I would've done if half my tema wasn't literally 38% WR players

[obsidian oriole]

Well, its not worth a lot. It only has that price because they want to put it in a sealed sleeve and leave it on a shelf. Never using it. Never playing with it

[boreal fable]

I checked my last 3 ranked games and 3 of the players were 40% or BELOW WR

[pseudo sparrow]

Yea, but to get to silver u have to do Bronze, and if thats boring, why do I play it

[obsidian oriole]

I hate Pokémon fans for this shit. Games are meant to be played, not collected, sealed, and left on a shelf

[boreal fable]

An item only has as much value as you are willing to assign to it

A product is worth only as much as a customer is willing to pay

[uneven void]

Are the Russian destroyers fun to play?

[light harbor]

Depends on what you find fun

[boreal fable]

delny? no, grozovoi? maybe

[obsidian oriole]

Pokémon fans are the fan base's own worst enemy

[light harbor]

Grozovoi is pretty generalist so you can kind of play her however you want

Delny is a cockroach

[bronze flame]

Is it just me or are the support us carriers a lil too good

Makin me feel different

Btw how fo u play prinz eugen

[obsidian oriole]

Yeah

The Essex line is very strong

[bronze flame]

A yorktown pushed middle with smoke and no one stopped her X3

[bronze flame]

E sex

[iron ingot]

god im loving Agir, glad i picked up her AL version instead of the coal one, too, my inner weeb demanded it

[honest breach]

from where did i get these

[bronze flame]

Wished they brought back the york town out of dry dock skin from the battle of midway

[obsidian oriole]

Events

Ernest was from GQ Johnston

Farragut I think was from something a little more recent

[shadow rose]

uhhh farragut was event pass i think

[bronze flame]

I like that almost every ship is named after somone basically their own john world of war ships

[obsidian oriole]

They're all Doe commanders basically in terms of skills

[bronze flame]

Or like john helldiver

[strange roost]

at last it's just a game

[cold geyser]

farragut was liberty harbor collection completion

so before evans

[bronze flame]

Nuh uh its like a library of ships that you can see and play

[cold geyser]

u can get farragut right now actually, for pretty cheap

the boxes are available

[obsidian oriole]

Concurrent then

Iirc

[cold geyser]

technically yes

[bronze flame]

Like a history's book but a game literally tells you a short history's of the ships. I love it. I always read a ship im about to get

[cold geyser]

but nobody got evans until after liberty harbor

because it was impossible to finish gq johnny by then :P

[obsidian oriole]

Eh. Either way

They're all basically Doe commanders

Good on all US DDs, cruisers, and BBs

[bronze flame]

Ima buy u pretty cheap

[light harbor]

Not as much the destroyers

[cold geyser]

free

[obsidian oriole]

I do think we're getting a little too much though, that makes it 4 separate Doe commanders now with all that

[bronze flame]

Btw isn't fletcher line basically first ever gun boat line and what the other line next to it

[bronze flame]

Owo ul serve me well. Do my laundry and help me with math

[light harbor]

fletcher line basically first ever gun boat line
Fletcher isn't a gunbote

[cold geyser]

(let the debate commence)

[bronze flame]

Its my baby shush

[bronze flame]

Whats the line next to the fletcher line?

[light harbor]

The gunbote line

[honest breach]

ah

sevastopol ❌
sebastopols ✅

[light harbor]

Technically they're destroyer leaders but the designs are all fantasy besides Hughes

[lucid wagon]

man

[ivory gale]

[lucid wagon]

should i just quit playing for the week

[ivory gale]

Boise is kinda ass

[lucid wagon]

i put up a 280k colbert game (still lost lmao)

[bronze flame]

Whats the difference btween both lines?

[light harbor]

Burrows line has higher DPM but worse stealth and toggle smoke

Gearing line is.... wonky

[bronze flame]

The gooon line

[light harbor]

But the tier 9 and 10 are torpbotes basically

[bronze flame]

I need my torp/gun us convoy boat

[light harbor]

Beyond that they have the American smokes

Otherwise they're very average

[obsidian oriole]

Gunboat Fletchers are Johnston, Velos, and Halford

[ivory gale]

Fletcher and Gearing are jack of all trades

For torpboat there's Shima

[cold geyser]

yeah this is not at all a settled debate

[bronze flame]

Halford my queen

[cold geyser]

they do have nice torps tho

[light harbor]

You can't really gun down anything in Gearing that can even remotely shoot back

[bronze flame]

Yesh its why they where used in da Atlantic pacific and everywhere in btween :3

[light harbor]

Your average Shima player will let you kill them for free though, yes

[obsidian oriole]

The gunboat Gearing technically isn't even a Gearing

Laffey is an earlier class

[bronze flame]

Not me theres been times i escape eith 40 to 30 hp bc i dodge and dont just drive straight

[ivory gale]

remotely shooting back would be shima and gearing has no issue with outgunning that
comparing gearing to certified gunboats such as smaland harugumo marceau and whatever would just prove the point of jack of all trades

[light harbor]

Okay, you're not the average Shima player