#🐲┊trial-by-fire

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dense mist
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After like 15 days of beeing stuck i made it, not that stage, but with going cav and adding 30k inf buffer i did not win this stage but on a new day i won the 50th - lol, so i just sped run over it

lusty lantern
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Yes if quick sweep not work. Try different comps everyday

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Like blasts first, then 055, 208, 550 etc.

fresh ore
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Put some buffers

devout crag
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Try cav blast

heavy jay
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How to won mix stages

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Stuck at 2200 stage rest 9k

rugged harness
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Unlock t5 and upgrade gears

rigid sparrow
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@runic spade what channel where?

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Uhh homie ? The shit I showing shows u lost almost nothing? About 320,00 troops. So either your spouting off about something you don’t understand or you uploaded the completely wrong thing.

coarse wren
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I need gems

lusty lantern
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Here comes mod.

oak monolith
# coarse wren I need gems

you can buy gems from the in game store or trade resources with other people for items bought with gems

oblique ember
urban storm
valid jolt
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passed 10k dance

fringe flume
woven jungle
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What is the max stage?

valid jolt
oblique ember
urban dome
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What's best formation against this ? They are ranged wedge

outer prairie
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I have t3KEKW

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elp

nocturne cairn
lusty lantern
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I don't think anyone reached there yet.

lusty lantern
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Atm all I can see is coins going up so I think 40k Coins per every sweep now.

valid jolt
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for the rest I will know in 13hours

urban storm
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Guild coins increased from 500 to 800 each stage

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I also reached 10k today... Hope the other rewards have also been changed blushing

coarse wren
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I'm stuck at mixed level 2.3k any formation which I can use

slender pond
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back when I was around those level I used to try to go full cavalry as if it was blast (and took note of how well I did in the current level with those in number of soldier kill/% of morale). If it didn't work I waited the next day and tried full range (took note too), if it didn't worked I would try full infantery and try again. If it didn't work I would compare note and check which is better and take it as base and try to ajuste.
It's not the best tactic but I believe that the first attack of the day will check 50 level after the level you are at to check if you can win the all 50 battle in one go (even if you wouldn't have passed the previous 49 in that configuration) so If you are lucky you can skip it all.
If you are not lucky 3 day in the row it's time to try to beat the actual level (thus the note. I guess you can just try various configuration now though, since you don't have to wait a full day no more). But I'm not very good at war so I cannot really give good advice at that point

hexed harness
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no jewels past 10k NoTears
pearls, halos and venoms instead

pliant veldt
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fun

urban storm
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Content Worryfrog

valid jolt
urban storm
paper crow
urban storm
urban storm
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See the screenshot 2 messages above

tacit crescent
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Can anyone help me lol

lusty lantern
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Go 055 Range phal.

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or 802 with Cav Phal.

tacit crescent
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What fam should I use?

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It no work

coarse wren
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Can anyone help me with this?

oblique ember
coarse wren
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Inf phal

plucky rose
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😍

oak monolith
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What are these random numbers for?

wispy valley
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Anyone knows rewards for mixed staged above 10 k atm i m on 9875

sour smelt
shell spruce
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Is anyone at 10k in mix ?

coarse wren
signal chasm
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^_^

gleaming ocean
# sour smelt Help pls

Infantry only, 5 inf heroes, inf talents and gears. Or 90% inf troops, 10% archers, Infantry Phalanx, with 4 inf heroes + 1 army atk ranged hero, inf talents and gears.

near fog
coarse wren
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Best army to defeat this?

lusty lantern
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Depends on Phal.

slender pond
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Hi, does the "Trojan horse" ability affect the trial by fire ? I reached a point where my stats are just too low to deal with the enemy. I don't really want to waste a skillstone if it's not gonna work. Either way I probably not gonna rely on this method (would be too expensive) but I'm curious if It would allow me to put more soldier into the battle

coarse wren
slender pond
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ok thanks

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Then my only hope is to eventually increase my damage input and/or unlock the 4th slot for familiar I guess

gleaming ocean
coarse wren
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I tried all my phal but none worked

raw spoke
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9971 mix..unbeatable..inf Phalanx it is..cav blast should do it but no chance..any orher suggestions? Tried all Formations etc...anybody help?

rigid sparrow
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Hello all. Question I am behind just have been busy through holidays. I am on 8790 across the board and have swept strait through. Has anyone that has swept through that high so swept through 8790 had any issues with the levels up to 9700 where they are?

storm wraith
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Suggest me the good attack comp for this stage

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This stage is irritate me

lusty lantern
silver grotto
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How can I beat it ?

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Inf wedge

wispy valley
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Anyone who can help me??

wispy valley
pliant veldt
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Not using boommeister as your leader would help since he doesn't provide any stats

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And trying cav inf mix comp with inf in front (range phalanx and inf phalanx would both be worth a try)

wispy valley
pliant veldt
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Change heroes around and show what fams you are using

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You can swap raven for oath and get more hp

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For inf

wispy valley
pliant veldt
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Are all those p5 fams maxed ?

wispy valley
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Frost lv5 bon lv9 rest maxed

pliant veldt
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Swap frost for goblin and reduce inf to 100k , make cav 150k

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And add 4 range

wispy valley
lusty lantern
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Try 055. 125k Range 125k Cav. 3 Cav Heroes 2 Range. Range phal.

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Take out Goblin Put Trickstar and if have P5 for Range than that instead of bon.

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If not work then try reduce Range by 5k and increase cav and so on till you go to 100k Range.
If that not work even then try it in reverse. Check in which you get closest results.

coarse wren
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Anyone can help with this pls

lusty lantern
coarse wren
raw spoke
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Working for you? For me no chance still

coarse wren
raw spoke
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Im at 17%...no chance with my stats..sadd..1 stupid Level..

surreal sable
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I clicked Attack button many times and got different result.

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Two days ago the gap was bigger than this one. Even, I could win only by clicking Attack button couple of times.

Is that possible same composition gives different result?

lusty lantern
# raw spoke Working for you? For me no chance still

It kinda is trial and error situation. For Range heavy comps at back I have gotten most success with these type of comps. Ofc need gears and fams to support the comp.
If stage in Inf formation then 055 and if it's in Cav formation 550. Range phal. both. Ofc it requires a lot of tweaking. Can try adjust 1k-2k troops (rather than 5k) in the closest stage. Also can try adjusting heroes (like 3 Range, 2 cavs or 3 cavs, 2 Range etc.) Fams should be Range stacker, Gryphon, Magus or shield and 1 of the stuns (maggot or tempestite) for 055. Inf fams for 550.

steel jasper
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Worryfrog or wait few days and it somehow just wins for me

steel jasper
rain sand
pliant veldt
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My main is still sweeping mix with a cav blastWorryfrog

lusty lantern
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1100%? Lol

pliant veldt
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1050

lusty lantern
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My Range about 720ish.

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I am quick sweeping mixes but I am behind. I think near 8k.

pliant veldt
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I'm behind too at 9600 rn

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But this does the job for now

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My artifacts suck tho I have none of the pure cav atk ones from the event sets so expecting to fail soon

valid jolt
coarse wren
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Tried everything FeelsStrongMan this is the closest l got

rough pendant
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Is this good gear for someone who just got back into the game and isn’t insanely pay to play

urban storm
rough pendant
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😂😂😂

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Oh well I tried

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Any suggestions is welcomed to help my poor set of gear

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Unfortunately my pockets aren’t as full as some

rough pendant
urban storm
odd dagger
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Hi

pliant veldt
sweet terrace
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Looking to find the right formation for mix 9979

unique hamlet
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Hi guys. Can help me how to pass trial by fire mixed stages level 9971?

steel jasper
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Probably best to post the comp you are against

oblique ember
unique hamlet
low garden
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Pretty sure I got stuck on that one forever and setting up a range majority troop, leader, gear and familiars all towards ranged and that's what got me through

unique hamlet
pine grove
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On infra phalax

raw spoke
unique hamlet
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Guys can help me with trial by fire mixed stage level 9979? Thank u :))

gleaming plover
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If we are in fury, is there any difference stats in trial by fire?

valid jolt
ancient mist
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I have been stuck here like forever! What troops should i use here?

near fog
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i cant beat this one for the life of me

gentle burrow
wispy valley
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How to beat this??
It s in inf wedge

balmy coral
rigid sparrow
rigid sparrow
rigid sparrow
edgy swan
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help pls. defense stage. inf phl.

still wind
urban storm
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Sometimes they break wall quickly so morale drops and you loss... Range help maintain morale

still wind
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i remember when that happened to me vs t3 KEKW

edgy swan
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didn't work FeelsStrongMan

broken drift
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L

near fog
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ive tried soo many different comps and everything

urban storm
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What the heckkk... That is failing to beat after 10k mix stages... I'm glad i stopped trying

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@hexed harness @steel jasper look at this FeelsStrongMan

hexed harness
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hmm

urban storm
# near fog

Can show what that stage has and in what formation?

near fog
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i was sooo happy just not losing and then this happens :/

urban storm
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Show ss of result if you fail

near fog
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can blast was doing the best but just not quite

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cav

urban storm
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Try 208

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Cav wedge or inf phalanx might work

near fog
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that worked but failed the next one lol

urban storm
near fog
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so far range blast are beating the rest

urban storm
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Not worth it to do them 1 by 1... Just pray that quick sweep returns again tomorrow... Leave 208 setup before trying tomorrow... 208 have high chances of Quick sweep working

near fog
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so far they are all completing with cav now lol

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20 stages in a row

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my OCD is gonna drive me insane now

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bruh lol.

urban storm
still wind
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11k bot

urban storm
near fog
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was able to finish all

urban storm
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Nice blushing

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Do this 38 days more and you shall reach max 12k in mix

still wind
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and then what ?

urban storm
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12k is max limit for now

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He won't have to check that building anymore if he reached the end, unless more stages get added

near fog
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i love doing these

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its almost free 160k guildcoins everyday

still wind
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holy shit

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thats a lot.... but im only at 4.5k stages FeelsStrongMan

near fog
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200k guildcoinns if i do the helps. then plus whatever p2p gifts i get

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i got 4 migrations scrolls the last x4 help event

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that was like 4 days or something like that

near fog
steel jasper
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Worryfrog on pc 2 days no auto sweep mix... do on phone exact same set up... works instantly

lusty lantern
oak monolith
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You missed your guild chat. Might wanna check it again

edgy swan
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why were my pics deleted?

reef swallow
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Mixed stage 9971 is unbeatable 😩

oak monolith
balmy coral
lavish folio
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Wtf

steel jasper
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Worryfrog wut

deep gorge
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any info if a t5 with counter reseaech and helm sigil research player, 4 fam slot, no p5 fam thou, and monster gold mix gear, can go how far in mix, im stuck in 3.9k

quick solstice
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I am stuck at 3892, same research as you except no t5 yet All depends on gear I guess

lusty lantern
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If you are stuck try different blasts to sweep everyday.

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If that not work then try 055, 550 or 208 comps after blasts. You'll sweep eventually.

deep gorge
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thanks for reply

covert cliff
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Can someone help me plz

hardy gazelle
late wraith
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I am assuming it is either cavalry wedge or cavalry phalanx based on your damage (you should include this in your post, however). I recommend trying:
(1) Full ranged troops with 4 each infantry and cavalry with at least four ranged heroes and the fifth hero providing the best ranged/army stats and familiars that help ranged (gryphon and trickstar the best accessible ones). Send in infantry phalanx if the defense is cav wedge or cav wedge if the defense is cav phal.
(2) If the recommendation in (1) does not work, try sending something like 100k infantry troops, 150k ranged troops, with 4 cavalry troops. Use 3 or 4 ranged type heroes with ranged/army ATK, and 1 or 2 infantry heroes with infantry HP. For familiars, use ones that proc on the loss of infantry troops, such as gryphon, gremlin, or one of the inf HP ones. You may try cav wedge for cav phal defense or inf phal for cav wedge defense. You want infantry front, may try other formations too; I believe all except cav phalanx will give inf front sending like this against walled defense.

hardy gazelle
rigid sparrow
rigid sparrow
# pliant veldt I'm behind too at 9600 rn

Congrats have not seen anyone in a while with higher cav than me. However I’m 2 embers from making my axe mythic. And I got 126 astralite waiting for it. So I’ll be back ! You have not seen the last of meeeee!

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Haha

covert cliff
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It is in cav phalanx

pliant veldt
shell spruce
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What you get above 10k in mix ?

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And will I get toxins from range ?

shell spruce
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But after I hit 6k will I get toxins ?

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Or idk when I get rare material again

rigid sparrow
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I think it’s 7,500

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Then no more gems but I could be wrong at it could be between 6-8 honestly I forget

urban storm
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Just see in pinned messages

rigid sparrow
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What happened here

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This disappear for everyone

coarse wren
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Hello

grim bough
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how can I beat that

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t4 player

quick solstice
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The only way is cav blast

grim bough
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@quick solstice doing that but no luck

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yes using cav

quick solstice
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Did you check heroes, familiars, gear so it’s all your best ones

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Try setting all talents to cav as well

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Maybe try different formations

grim bough
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cav talents maxed out, cav gear and heroes etc. running 1k inf range as buffer

quick solstice
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How close in outcome are you?

grim bough
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cav phalanx 23%

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cav wedge 15%

lusty lantern
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Go Range Phal or Range wedge.

wispy valley
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@grim bough weird you can t quick swipe those stages i could do that on all my t4 accounts only struggling with mixed stages

tidal marsh
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sooo, max stage is still 12k?

snow kestrel
tidal marsh
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thats good

valid jolt
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passed 11k in mix and still sweeping

hexed harness
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ive been sweeping again too, 2 days so far lol

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just got to 10080 tho

earnest anchor
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Sweeping is weird one day I'll be stuck next day it clears for a week no problem then boom 2 days of stuckness or manually doing each fight just for it to start clean sweeping again lol it's weird

cloud drum
twilit harborBOT
soft trellis
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Where everybody at

outer prairie
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Around 1k - 4k can’t go any far with t3

wispy valley
undone plover
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I need help in Mix 3322 stage

formal pulsar
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Have been stuck here for the longest time

plucky thicket
# undone plover

Try putting your leader in the attack to get atk from your gear

wispy valley
floral garnet
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Any idea for this stage?

molten verge
floral garnet
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Help for this mix stage?

rigid sparrow
valid jolt
buoyant crescent
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Inf phal or wedge

formal pulsar
buoyant crescent
formal pulsar
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Thanks

rigid sparrow
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Hahaha for the first time ever my cav didn’t sweep 9450.

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Then i realized I had been doing all the single trooop types with 150,000 troops I never adjust them up!

runic trench
formal pulsar
runic trench
astral torrent
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Im stuck on stage 2065. Help me. Whats the comp to complete stages

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Stage 2065 mix

devout crag
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Send the comp

kind heath
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Can anyone tell me how far is this TBF go??? I already in 11k cav, inf and range stage 😵‍💫 mix in 11k 😵‍💫 when it gonna end 😳

nova basin
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i don't think it will end, which is a good thing imo

lusty lantern
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The update in which Trial By Fire said it was unlimited stages I think.

valid jolt
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It is 12k for now

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Why would you want it to end tho ?

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Free stuff...

fervent hearth
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On cav wedge. Cav blast on wedge or range into range wedge kills 100k’s but still far of winning

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Any ideas? 🤌🏻

valid jolt
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Range blast here

late wraith
# fervent hearth On cav wedge. Cav blast on wedge or range into range wedge kills 100k’s but stil...

If ranged blast doesn't work, try sending something like 170k ranged, 80k inf, with small cav buffers, 3 or 4 ranged ATK heroes, and 1 or 2 inf HP heroes, with inf familiars (but ranged for p2p damage ones if you have), in ranged ATK gear. I think ranged phalanx may be best but you can try other formations except, I believe, cav phalanx (we want an infantry frontline but most formations do this due to troop movement and wall drop retargeting mechanics).

fervent hearth
quick solstice
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Any ideas on this stage, been stuck for weeks. This is the best result I seem to get

hexed harness
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get t5

devout crag
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Wait how they're exceeding 250k ?

lusty lantern
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They do. Over 11k now close to 280k

devout crag
sour smelt
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can someone help on mixed stage 11,575?

molten verge
fervent hearth
quick solstice
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No. I can try. Cav is my strongest anyway

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Yes 307 worked, 3 stages done lol

fervent hearth
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Anyone 👏🏻 ?

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Cav can’t go through range, and range kill most cavs but not the rest. So far infa is being my best option

fervent hearth
quartz wadi
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@fervent hearth

devout crag
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And do a full inf blast

tough hazel
devout crag
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Sea scquire will give 30% inf attack while Rose and goblin will add only 20% atk

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@tough hazel

clever folio
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4635 is basically exactly the same pattern as teaspoons 3892 from a few hours back. I tried the combo FarmersGuide suggested, and got creamed.

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Inf in range wedge the only config that gets anywhere near it, and that loses by 4K

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😭

quartz wadi
lusty lantern
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055 may be

clever folio
quartz wadi
clever folio
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Inf Phil

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Inf Phal. Fking autocorrect

devout crag
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Inf wedge enemy formation

clever folio
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😁

devout crag
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Full cav blast gives less result than this

quartz wadi
clever folio
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Trying 055

quartz wadi
clever folio
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Feck. 055 got owned 140k to 48k

quartz wadi
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lol yeah didn’t think that’d be too effective

clever folio
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Range in Inf wedge 93k to 70k

quartz wadi
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…dammit

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1min to think of something else

quartz wadi
clever folio
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140 to 100

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Inf in range wedge is 76.8 to 72.8.

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That’s as close as I can get with single troop combos, and I have tried every one.

quartz wadi
quartz wadi
clever folio
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Gear is ok. 613 cav 207 army in cav gear and talents

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Thanks everyone for helping me out, especially QuickSilver.

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I’ll keep growing and maybe someday….

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😊

lusty lantern
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If not get close then try reduce cav by 5k and so on till you get to 100k or do it in reverse (reduce range by 5k and so on).

shell spruce
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How much stages do I have to do to unlock T5 ( without siege and central command it's 19119 tomes ) using trial by fire

lusty lantern
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It is 200 tomes for every 1k stage any type.

shell spruce
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I only can do inf ,cav ,range mix hard

lusty lantern
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Tome about been same since it started giving tomes.

shell spruce
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I know that that's why I asked it

lusty lantern
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Need buy Labour pass.

shell spruce
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I really want T5 to get it like this way so have to spend nothing on it

lusty lantern
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I don't think even if at max stages on all 4 of trial by fire, it is enough for T5.

shell spruce
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Is there max stage ?

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They will give us more like last update they gave 2-3k more stages

lusty lantern
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At 11.6k something rn. Still going on.

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What I meant by max is passing all since Day 1.

shell spruce
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Oh

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I'm now on 6-7k

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I missed some days since I tried with T3

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It was at the beginning

lusty lantern
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Yes can't do F2P (yet). Check pins info on how much items every 1k stage give.

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I think it will total out to be about 8k or so tomes if done all stages.

shell spruce
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30k stages if you do only 3 type

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24k if you do all 4 type

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Which is 460 days

devout crag
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Tomes rewards were I think after stage 3000.. Earlier were artifacts.. And max stage is 12k for now.. So It's like 27k stages that will give you tomes without counting mix stages.. 1k stage gives 200 tomes. So you will get 5400 tomes from trial by fire.(Without mix stages) @shell spruce

shell spruce
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Stage 1k

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They will give us more stages the new monster rares not even in it

devout crag
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Then it will be 6600 tomes for 3 type stages

shell spruce
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?

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24x200 =4800 4800x4=19200

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so you need to be at 25k but i didn't counted the 1k which gives no tomes omg people should think before saying anything

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and you need 19119 to unlock t5 wothout seige and central command

devout crag
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Bruh

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200 tomes per 1k stage ..
11(k) x 200= 2200
11(K) x 200= 2200
11(K) x 200= 2200.
Total 6600 from 3 type of stages

devout crag
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You learning any different Maths

shell spruce
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omg

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read back hat i just said

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and after that think again

devout crag
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Who said that stages go upto 25k ?

shell spruce
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...........

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csavaroskifli (°□°) — Today at 08:05
How much stages do I have to do to unlock T5 ( without siege and central command it's 19119 tomes ) using trial by fire

devout crag
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Trial by fire isn't the only thing where you get tomesThinkingfira

shell spruce
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omg just read the sentence

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and think

shell spruce
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it's only 460 days as f2p 🙂

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without buying anything

devout crag
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But new stages won't come out in 460 days. Not till 25k

shell spruce
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i'M done

devout crag
shell spruce
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bye

devout crag
shell spruce
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for f2p it's good

devout crag
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I'm f2p and unlocking t5.xD But ain't relying fully on trial by fire in hope of getting more stages in future

shell spruce
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we will get

devout crag
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Maybe

shell spruce
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new monster rare materials not in it

devout crag
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Maybe not

shell spruce
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so they will give it too

devout crag
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You never know IGGWorryfrog

remote scarab
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Right now it only has I think 12k stages

quartz wadi
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@fervent hearth

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Which formation did you try the range in?

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If tried inf phalanx or cav wedge, try it again in inf wedge

fervent hearth
quartz wadi
quartz wadi
quartz wadi
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i give up eevee_ded

fervent hearth
late wraith
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I would try inf/cav with ranged buffers in ranged wedge. Either 4 cav heroes and 1 inf hero, or 3 cav heroes and 2 inf heroes. Maybe start with 80k inf/170k cav and adjust if needed. Use cavalry familiars.

The cavalry will be the frontline, attacking the outer two ranged squads and then retargeting infantry, while the infantry backline attacks the full ranged frontline. This is pretty much exactly like a 208 in wonders, meant for countering 424 variants when they defend in ranged phalanx.

quartz wadi
quick solstice
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Does it end now at 12k or did they extend it?

valid jolt
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Will know in 24h

quick solstice
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I still got 2 days

ivory galleon
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First time I couldn't auto wipe mix happened FeelsStrongMan at 7500 I hoped to get further

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Nvm today I could swipe mix, wtf no sense

coarse wren
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I stopped on stage 700

valid jolt
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Confirmed, it ends at 12k.

quick solstice
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Too bad 😦

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At least I got to sweep mix a few times now

molten verge
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Maybe they will add more with another update blushing

late quail
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Booo Booooohhh

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More TBF stages please

odd pumice
late quail
# odd pumice Are you at max?

Yeah I'm at 12k on the single troop ones, though stuck on mixed. I have come to rely on the regular flow of guild coins and archaic tomes, I find it extremely annoying that they would do TBF for such a long time and then stop. WTF.

pliant veldt
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it was in update notes that it was going to end at 12k Worryfrog

late quail
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The update note said they were extending from 9k to 12k. It seemed reasonable to assume they would continue expanding as they got close to the current limit.

pliant veldt
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the initial extension felt out of character for igg already tbh

late quail
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I thought there had been more than one since they introduced it.

pliant veldt
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igg and giving us nice things rarely go together KEKW

late quail
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Either way, out of character or otherwise, it's honestly a bit of a jerk thing to do, running this for 8 months and then stopping it.

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Then again, I suppose this might not be all that different than it must have been for new players when the vergeway or the adventure quest thing ended.

marsh cedar
real zenith
nimble zodiac
late quail
rigid sparrow
rigid sparrow
# real zenith If they kept expanding it then igg would end up loosing money the rewards are so...

No way I’m sorry. The shit they are giving us still not even a drop I. The bucket. I don’t know what level your out might wise kr what you are doing. But even that many green books for a moth barley goes from level 7 to 8 never the less 10-11. The one or two so called rare items. You cannot be beating these levels without having the gear sets that those belong to. They know they are barley giving anything to people that are already not gold. And guess what!!! If your gold and they give you more . Then your nore likely to SPEND not just on the rare parts but the Embers you need also. It’s all part of the get you to spend more plan that IGG runs off.

near fog
molten verge
whole apex
#

Kinda stuck on this one for weeks, its inf phlax.
Any help is welcome.

whole apex
#

I have T4, not T5

devout crag
#

I did it with t4

whole apex
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Not working, what heroes/ fam do you use

lusty lantern
#

Inf blast your only option.

real zenith
devout crag
prisma meteor
#

How much troops do we lose when defending? Since sanctuary became a thing ppl say it's way easier to rebuild troops but I really don't know how much we can get back

devout crag
rose nymph
#

Any clue when more stages will drop?

icy smelt
#

Hello my friends

solid finch
#

It seems unless u have unlocked all fam slot & full attack u can't reach more than 9.5k level

rose nymph
#

My stats aren't maxed at all either

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Well ofc it'll be more difficult for newer accounts

solid finch
#

Mine is also not maxed i have 3fam slot unable to go beyond 9600 in just2 mixed stages i am in 2500 i think

rose nymph
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Yes the mixed stages are much more difficult

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I failed many times with my weaker accounts on the mix stages

solid finch
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That's why I said unless u have all unlocked u can't reach Max stages in all

rose nymph
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The familiar slots only play a small part in battles

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I've beaten 4-5pc champion players on forts without using any familiars

solid finch
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Nice u have a good attack stats & gears

rose nymph
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It's decent

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Nowadays titans have insane gear

prisma meteor
royal glacier
rose nymph
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This is me beating players of similar stats with 0 familiars, vs 5 maxed pact 5 familiars in each battle

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And winning by a large margin

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A trickstar has 0% chance of compensating for a 200% difference in stats

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Maybe 50% but that's already pushing it

lusty lantern
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Why send no fams. though ?!

royal glacier
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Trickstar is worth more than 50% attack dude

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You’re just pulling numbers from thin air

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If you gain 100% attack with 10% of your troops dead that’s 90% gain in attack basically

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Just off common sense

rose nymph
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I've done comprehensive testing of all familiars hundreds of times, we can test it if you want

rose nymph
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They are decent, sure, but definitely not as good as you think

royal glacier
#

I mean I notice pretty significant difference with stackers. I noticed a huge difference when I maxed them and I’ve seen low stat people beat lvl 6 nest with them with ease too

rose nymph
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The initial exchanges are where most of the damage throughout the entire battle are dealt, the stackers do little to change that

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there are so many factors that go into a battle Preston, it's definitely not the stackers that put in the difference

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If you want, I can show you some of my conclusive evidence in DMs

royal glacier
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Maybe it was just that I was only like 500% attack when I maxed my stackers so they felt more useful then compared to now where I have 800+

rose nymph
#

To truly understand the effectiveness of a familiar you need a control test

royal glacier
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You can send me evidence though if you want

rose nymph
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If someone noodled a dn and lost by 200K

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Then won the dn by ONLY adding a stacker and changing nothing else

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That would be conclusive evidence of it's strength, but if they only won the dn and there was no controlled variable, it is a bad idea to use it as evidence of a strong familiar

royal glacier
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I actually like testing on trial by fire, it’s pretty easy just put less troops in with no fams then when you lose you can add fams and see the difference they make

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As long as you lose with the fams you add too so you can look at report

rose nymph
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Yes trial is a good testing ground for sure

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Although sometimes the results fluctuate even with the exact same comps

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And the enemy remains exactly the same, which makes for a good controlled variable

royal glacier
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I can test it tomorrow myself when my trial by fire resets

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I might post the results if I remember

rose nymph
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Sounds good

royal glacier
royal glacier
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With about 60% of march being killed, trickstar would probably outperform the full gear if more of the march died

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Here’s report if I remove one gold cup which gives 55% range attack and 15% range max hp but have trickstar on, significantly higher than damage with just full gear. So you were way off on your trickstar only being worth 50% attack claim

silver wigeon
#

What should i try to beat this stage?

devout crag
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Try in range wedge? 208 goes in rng wedge I guess

silver wigeon
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No go, rng wedge puts the inf in the back and cav gets shredded.

late wraith
# silver wigeon

I would try:
*ranged/cav troops, strictly 0 inf;
*ranged/army HP and cav/army ATK heroes of ranged and cav hero types;
*no familiars that require losing cav troops specifically;
*in ranged phalanx.

pulsar basalt
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Any suggestion to clear this stage? I don't have t5

late wraith
# pulsar basalt

Ranged/inf troops (heavier in ranged, just enough inf that ranged take no troop damage) with cav buffers, mostly ranged heroes, inf loss proc fams, ranged ATK gear, any formation except cav phalanx but try a different one if you don't kill all the cav.

fresh crypt
#

Hi

gritty yarrow
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Any suggestions.... OPPONENT - RANGE WEDGE

lusty lantern
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208 Range wedge.

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If not work then 208 Cav phal.

late wraith
# gritty yarrow

The above suggestion is good. A third approach if both fail is something like a wonder 055. For f2p heroes/familiars, would be
*Rose Knight, Snow Queen, Bombin Goblin, Death Archer, Tracker, and
*Familiars that proc on cavalry troop loss, with
*Something like 130k ranged, 4 infantry, 110k cavalry (adjusting composition as needed, with the goal of havjng just enough cavalry to protect the ranged).

I would use ranged phalanx rather than inf wedge (usually a wonder 055 uses inf wedge with more infantry buffer); this achieves a cav front because of troop movement before your ranged hit the wall (something not present in wonders).

The 208 above attempts to attack the infantry with the cavalry, using an infantry backline to help push through the ranged front. The 055 attempts to ranged blast through the rangdd frontline and then attack the cavalry, with the attacking cavalry protecting the ranged.

fervent hearth
#

Any chance someone help me with this? Stuck af

lusty lantern
#

Gold boom in lineup lol

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Try Inf blast

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Then 208 or 307 in Range phal or Range wedge.

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or Cav phal even (make sure you hit Inf after range).

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If still ot work then keep incrase inf by 5k and so on...

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Fams. should be Gremlin, Goblin, Gryphon and Noceros.

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2 Inf and 3 Cav heroes.

golden tusk
#

Help Me to clear this with t3

solid finch
#

Mix are pain just hit & trial with one Max & others at 500each try with all one will surely win

urban storm
#

Ok

reef swallow
#

I can't finish mixed stage because of this stupid stage 9971 CatSurrender

valid jolt
chilly wasp
gleaming plover
#

Anyone can help me?

coarse wren
#

Range blast, cav wedge w/ buffer

lusty lantern
#

May be 055 after that. Range phal no inf

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or 550 no cav.

eternal fog
#

Can someone help t4 only

eternal fog
coarse wren
#

T4 only can’t win this 😦

coarse wren
floral garnet
#

Help for this stage

bronze cave
#

Ranged blast

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Not much else to say

pine grove
coarse wren
devout crag
stark skiff
#

Please help. Stuck on this for weeks. Inf wedge. Have t4 only

devout crag
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Cav blast it

solemn roost
#

Please help me

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I am stuck on mixed stage 810 T3 only

coarse wren
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IGG ID 1291246965

oak monolith
#

?warn @coarse wren spamming is not allowed

twilit harborBOT
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dynoSuccess sidhu#9705 has been warned. || spamming is not allowed

dense mist
#

am stuck there a while, only have t4, tried all blasts/ some other formations also hoping to make it with quick sweep but no luck on that, any idea?

buoyant crescent
#

Have u tried 055 cav front? @dense mist

noble badger
#

Tried everything, any suggestions pls

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Its in ran phal

late wraith
noble badger
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Thank u buddy , it worked

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May i know how did u figure it out

jaunty zenith
#

Is pushing auto not the best way to win? I'm still learning the game lol

raw spoke
#

Tried all..no chance..cav blast..055..208..20%Moral left..

late wraith
# noble badger Thank u buddy , it worked

For this particular comp, I didn't. 208 is a wonder composition meant for countering comps like 424 when they defend in ranged phalanx.

We send in ranged wedge because (1) it gives a cavalry frontline, which is poorly countered by the defense composition, and (2) it lines up the cavalry in such a way that they target the outer two ranged squads then retarget infantry if these squads die (if that is confusing I recommend Crystal Briefs YT video about squads).

If our cav are strong enough for two of our cav squads to break through one ranged squad fast enough to do good damage to inf, a cav blast in ranged wedge could work against such a defense.

When they are not, it helps to put some infantry troops on the backline. The inf squads line up 1-to-1 against the defense ranged squads, with one inf squad joining each pair of cav squads to attack the outer ranged squads and the inner two inf squads attacking the inner two ranged squads alone. Since the inf sit behind the cav, they survive to attack the small ranged front the entire battle. The two outer squads help the cav to push through the ranged, and the additional damage to the defense ranged causes it to counter cav more poorly as the battle progresses.

Trial by Fire stages have some significant differences from wonders, one being that they are turf battles with walls, which alters troop targeting mechanics (the wall drop is a point at which the defense chooses which attacking troops to target based on current, rather than initial, troop positions). But two type comps can be effective. The frontline should be one that is poorly countered by the defense comp (and ideally becomes more poorly countered as the defense loses troops); the backline should be one that counters the defense troops that receive damage, often the frontline but sometimes also the second troop type to receive damage if the frontline breaks quickly enough.

wispy valley
#

New stages 12k-15k

plain bolt
#

what are the rewards for 12.000-15.000 ?

valid jolt
#

It's not out yet

wispy valley
#

It s out in taiwan server but i m not that far there

coarse wren
jaunty olive
jaunty olive
#

Watcher hell event alert

remote scarab
lusty lantern
#

Yeah No Change after 12k.

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But free tomes and books welcome.

knotty yew
#

How clear mix stage
With T4

devout crag
#

Ignore

spiral ridge
#

Can someone tell me how to win this;

rigid sparrow
# remote scarab

Still!!!! COME ON the books should be blue and this point 12,000 you know how many players can even get that high. Should be 120 x blue book. And 25 -50 - brushes. And either go back to jewels like before oORRRRR! Do champ jewel only 1 grey per field per day.

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You. Need 256 regular gray material to get a gold so divide that by 4. That’s 64 days for one gold. I think it would be worth it.

rigid sparrow
hot sequoia
#

360 green books a day is really good

supple anvil
#

Inf wedge , what to send?

bleak ledge
#

Heroic fighter with ancient drake rider

devout crag
#

Do cav blast with cav heroes and cav fam

fervent hearth
#

Im really stuck here, any ideas

devout crag
fervent hearth
#

Same infa hero’s?

devout crag
#

No. 2 rng heroes 2 cav 1 inf
Range phal and range fams

fervent hearth
#

On it, Ty for helping me out

devout crag
fervent hearth
#

On it

spiral viper
#

Try getting mythical champ with +12 Astra and max p5 fams peepoHeart

fervent hearth
spiral viper
#

Just go inf blast with decoys

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Inf talent/gear/fam

devout crag
#

Ah forgot lol these things have wall.

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Try 442 in inf phal

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Rest luck brother or maybe someone else can halp you out

gritty yarrow
#

NEED HELP HERE 9972 - RANGE WEDGE OPPONENT 🤬

still kettle
molten verge
gusty musk
#

TBF helping alot

fringe smelt
#

Help me over here (range stage)

frank rain
#

Can anyone help with this one DM me?

leaden moth
#

Can anyone tell me how to complete 2048?

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Opponent is infantry phan

spiral viper
spiral viper
leaden moth
#

Then which heros?

#

Which phan or wedge?

spiral viper
#

Inf phalanx.
With child of light, rose knight, demon Slayer, oath keeper and that forger ..that dwarf inf guy (forgot its name lol)

leaden moth
spiral viper
#

Yes

leaden moth
#

And INf cav mix gear or single?

spiral viper
#

Your inf will take the DMG and cav will clear enemy inf. Then your inf will clear range peepoHeart

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Inf gear. That should be enough

leaden moth
#

Ok

spiral viper
#

@leaden moth yep?

leaden moth
#

Sorry for distributing but stage got completed:)

spiral viper
#

Yay!

coarse wren
#

😳

fervent hearth
#

🙏 pls someone take me out this suffering 😂 those were my best results so far

proper sorrel
fervent hearth
#

On it

spiral viper
#

Use bombing goblin and in range wedge.

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In cav wedge your inf becomes 2nd frontline
You want inf all the way back
Range wedge makes it 3rd

fervent hearth
#

On it

fervent hearth
fringe smelt
frank rain
#

ive been struggling with trial of fire and i finally realized im using t3 against t4, so ill just stop until i get t4 lol

coarse wren
#

Otherwise go pure Inf

glossy siren
#

Its in calvary wedge, any advice ?

lusty lantern
#

Cav blast

lusty lantern
#

Pretty tricky this one.

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Have tried every blast, 055, 208, 550 etc.

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And can't quick sweep with any of those comps either.

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So can anyone post a report of Stage 10,342 so that I can assess better how to quick sweep?

fervent hearth
#

Same issue here cav gets close ish but infa barely helps 😭

late wraith
#

Both above may try
ranged phal 055 with 0 inf;
cav ATK/rng HP heavy in rng/cav heroes;
rng proc fams

fervent hearth
#

On it

lusty lantern
late wraith
#

Try switching Bombin and Tracker for Black Crow and Night Raven, and adjusting rng and cav counts if it doesn't work. You are further than me FWIW, this is just what has most success for me on this comp in inf phal. I don't have t5 or particularly good stats/fams (although my core f2p ones are max and I do have rng shield which helps this comp).

Another thing that could possibly work is leaving it as is but changing to inf wedge and making the comp ranged heavier, to try to penetrate outer two inf squads and focus on killing the cav with rng. But inf wedge rng front will break more easily too.

covert cliff
#

Can someone help me please?

shell spruce
#

When I will start getting halo, queen venoms etc

late wraith
sinful pelican
shell spruce
wispy valley
shell spruce
limber laurel
#

Anyone have newly added stages mats drop details

gentle burrow
#

We are playing trial by fire to get t5 and we need t5 to clear trail by fire 😂😂

limber laurel
#

It is what it is

sour smelt
#

Can someone help?

azure crescent
#

hey guys I got a problem with a mixed stage of trail by fire, anyone could help me please?

fervent forge
icy smelt
fading basin
#

How is the amount of troops determined for Tbf?

fervent hearth
#

Im having similar issue, cav gets close ish infa or range simply doesn’t do as much damage

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Any suggestions 🙏 😅

quick plume
#

any suggestion?

wintry sandal
#

how can i win this one yellowducky

lusty lantern
#

If you actually try any formation on 424, 442 or any comps. with Range mix and Range phal. the enemy in tbf doesn't actually hit your Range ;))

vague thicket
#

what stage?

lusty lantern
lusty lantern
devout crag
#

Ah always forget the wall

fervent hearth
# lusty lantern

I’m having same issue, w similar troops compo, cav blast on cav wedge was kind of close ish

wintry sandal
fervent hearth
#

😭

stoic basin
#

Help me with this one

coarse wren
fringe shadow
#

Need help with all these

oblique ember
#

Get strong*

fervent hearth
fervent hearth
#

Pls pretty pls w sugar on top, hellllpp lmao

spiral ridge
#

Can someone help..Is inf wedge

lucid mural
#

I stop sweeping in cav blast stage 12,218

Is there anything i can do to sweep again at this stage aside from increasing stats ?

lucid mural
spiral viper
#

Use decoys
4 inf 4 range. In inf wedge.
If that doesn't work play around phalanx and wedges might as well increase decoys from 4 to 500

spiral ridge
#

Can someone help...is infa wedge

lucid mural
#

Thanks? By the way 🙂

spiral viper
#

Yep, work on stats
I'm stuck on mix lol
Tried so many formation but lost all

devout crag
lucid mural
devout crag
#

Mine 500

lucid mural
#

I see. I'll reach that soon 😁

fervent hearth
#

Anyone else stuck w something like dat?

devout crag
#

Yeah I am but at a lower stage

pastel crystal
#

I love this game

coarse wren
#

1420863684

oak monolith
rigid sparrow
#

Hello!

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Anyone have the prizes for level 12,000 plus? Or even level 9000 and up. I have 1-9000. But am looking for the rest.

lusty lantern
#

I think rest remains same but monster cores change.

lusty lantern
lusty lantern
brazen flame
pliant veldt
#

is that the 3m+ gems account or a different one ?

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if the 3m gems one you might as well spend some gems on jewels instead of hoarding them if you want to go further Worryfrog

lusty lantern
#

Lol

rotund dune
brazen flame
rotund dune
#

Range stages

rotund dune
#

Well, you can't complete a stage, that's real problem loo

brazen flame
spiral viper
#

Buy jewels lol
You got so many gems

brazen flame
dull sage
quartz crag
#

M stuck at 3675 mixed stage..fir so long 😭

rough sundial
quartz crag
#

I have t5 but do not have champ gears...

devout crag
quartz crag
devout crag
#

I have t4 and I think I am at 3800+

junior meteor
#

My biggest thing about TBF is that I am getting pretty much the same rewards at 12,500 that I got at 1,250. Then again, it is freebies for gear and such.

modest fjord
#

Heyy, tell me about this one...I have zero clue

So, I have T5, my cav blast is +620% (this is my strongest), and nothing works on this one....
I'm way past 13451 on the other stagesm where my range and inf stats are below 600...
I don't get it

lusty lantern
#

Send about 2k buffers each and rest cav in Range wedge.

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If not work then increase Inf to 5k

fervent hearth
#

Pls anyone able help me?

north hawk
#

How to clear this? 😔

lusty lantern
#

Enhance grade of your heroes.

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And use Inf. Familiars.

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And get better gears.

north hawk
#

All these will take so many days to upgrade and i need few brushes immediately to complete my guild fest 😔

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Artifect coins are also zero

buoyant crescent
#

U don't have any bravehearts?

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Move some jewels here and there and check if it works

alpine mortar
#

1107597473

oak monolith
rigid sparrow
rigid sparrow
# modest fjord Heyy, tell me about this one...I have zero clue So, I have T5, my cav blast is ...

Also the ATK isn’t the only thing that comes into account. Huge differences are made with items that have army hp as well as champ jewels obviously. Also I would say biggest behind strait attack stats is your familiars and what ones you have and what levels there battle skills are. Lastly I know it may not seem it but some people don’t check into thing like their CAV/RNG/INF HP I have seen people who have blast with 470 CAV HP and assume it’s kinda even across board but check and there range HP is 340. So check into those.

rigid sparrow
dry kernel
# brazen flame I am stuck here

This is concerning, you are stuck around the same place as me on mixed, but around 3k further on the other 3 which means you've played longer and still stuck 😦

lusty lantern
#

Expect me to beat an 11k ;((

dry kernel
lusty lantern
#

Not to mention T5 fams when I don'y have them 😭

pliant veldt
#

One hero in the setup has 0 stats so the 11k kinda gets evened out by that

lusty lantern
#

3 Range heroes with Range at back. This round got me stuck for like 15 days.

coarse wren
#

all red

spiral viper
#

You strong fireeee

coarse wren
#

thnx

coarse wren
coarse wren
crisp arrow
pure gorge
coarse wren
pure gorge
raven glen
#

Stuck on Mix stage 1220 for few weeks
Tried inf but no work :(

buoyant crescent
copper field
#

I can't win at mix 753

buoyant crescent
copper field
#

Ok bro it is 702 i show later

copper field
#

What use mix troops?

#

Oath keeper is only legendary i have

#

Rose and demon bomber are purple

buoyant crescent
copper field
#

Ok i try bro thanks

buoyant nacelle
#

Does someone know how I could win ?

#

I have the same problem for cav stage too

spiral viper
#

Cav phal
With 1 range

buoyant crescent
#

Send 4 range too for the hero boost

fervent hearth
#

Stuck w this for awhile, any suggestions ?

buoyant crescent
weary willow
#

Is there a general guide on how to do mix levels after 3000

lusty lantern
#

Set 208

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Range wedge 4 cav heroes and watcher (if gold, o/w demon/oath keeper). Cav fams. Cav gears and Inf cav talents.

fervent hearth
buoyant crescent
#

I am guessing no

fervent hearth
gusty pine
#

After I have pacts 1-4 maxxed out and elder is it safe to drop my 3 gyms down to 1 and my 2 spires down to 1 for more springs?

icy smelt
narrow pendant
#

Need help i am not clear this level in before 1 month

#

My equipment amd faimiliars

merry harbor
remote scarab
urban storm
#

How much in mix one

remote scarab
#

I'm at 10k of 15k

valid jolt
urban storm
remote scarab
#

@valid jolt no I'm just to lazy to swap around every level I need to, so I go until it auto sweeps, then I wait haha

valid jolt
urban storm
#

Moulie thicc

spiral viper
pliant veldt
tall dirge
pliant veldt
#

300

glossy parrot
#

Wait, trial-by-fire got released about 300+ days ago? Worryfrog

pliant veldt
#

I guess so lol

late quail
#

More stages plz

late quail
late quail
glossy parrot
urban storm
wild oar
#

Stage 5813 mix

#

Nvm I beat it infantry blast cav phal. Just needed to put a bit more thought into it I guess.

fervent hearth
#

Can’t remember since when I got stuck in here lol.

shut quarry
#

I assume i am just too weak. Because what should work besides cav

urban storm
wary cargo
#

I'm stuck at mixed 2491. Any advice to win this?

barren valley
#

Hi everyone

spare plover
wary cargo
shell pond
#

maybe you could try sending a full cavalry march with actual heroes instead of auto selecting them

#

with buffers, and ranged phalanx

tall dirge
buoyant crescent
#

Rose , demon, queen, child , goblin

lusty lantern
mild osprey
#

IGG ID 1471632424

urban storm
formal pulsar
#

Been stuck forever and tried everything 😭

mild osprey
#

IGG ID 1352161115

cloud void
#

I want to open T4 quickly how can I i don't have money to buy gems !! 😢

oak monolith
oak monolith
# cloud void I want to open T4 quickly how can I i don't have money to buy gems !! 😢

join a guild that does well in events and monster hunting, those are the primary sources of gems and speeds. get your coloseum game up as much as you can, extra passive gem income always nice. if you are there already focus on the treasure trove, the higher the level, the more the payout. invest in the 30 day only. it might take long, but gives moer gems in the long run.

tidal pond
oak monolith
#

i dont know the total costs, but trove does pay out big time at max level i think

valid jolt
#

the sooner you level it up the sooner you get gems

copper field
#

Helpyellowducky

buoyant crescent
copper field
#

Tried failed

#

I use full hero range with best gear i. Have

buoyant crescent
#

U have t3?

copper field
#

Yes

buoyant crescent
#

Ok so try inf wedge with inf buffer

copper field
#

Ok how much inf i put

buoyant crescent
#

400

copper field
#

Let me see

#

Nope didn't work

urban storm
mortal finch
#

Can you help me with formation with what troops? It is in infantry wedges.

mortal finch
#

Anyone?

pale pivot
#

Inf Wedge needs Cav. I would run Inf Wedge with some sprinkles before the Cav hit

leaden moth
#

How to do this stage anyone help please

lusty lantern
#

Cav your only chance.

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Right heroes, right formation, right comp.

leaden moth
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I try full not getting it out

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Only cav no buffers?

lusty lantern
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Have bunny? (Bunny = Child of Light for heroes).

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Child of Light

lusty lantern
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Rose, Child of Light, Raven, Bombin (Replace bombin with Watcher if Gold) and Death Knight for Heroes.

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Cav fams.

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1k each buffers prob t2 rest cav. T4/T5s.
Cav gears cav talents etc.

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Range wedge / Range Phal formation.

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If not done with this then you lack stats.

leaden moth
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Okay

leaden moth
leaden moth
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How to do thi

leaden moth
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@lusty lantern

lusty lantern
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There is nothing else I can suggest.

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Replace Night Raven with Sage since you have him Gold.

lusty lantern
leaden moth
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How to do this any one

formal pulsar
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Help pls, been stuck for weeks

pine skiff
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1356385925 igg id

oak monolith
pine skiff
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I dont know

oak monolith
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the why post it here?

pine skiff
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How to join discord events?

oak monolith
pine skiff
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What to post?

oak monolith
pine skiff
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Okk

leaden moth
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@lusty lantern

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Help pls

urban storm
buoyant crescent
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4 range 1 cav

formal pulsar
bitter linden
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@urban storm

urban storm
leaden moth
buoyant crescent
leaden moth
buoyant crescent
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Nice

leaden moth
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Ok

solemn roost
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I am in cav stage 3300

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With t3 only

outer prairie
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I am cav 4200 with t3 heheheh

devout jacinth
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Please help send link in private

fervent hearth
stoic basin
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Help me guys

spiral viper
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Inf blast

stoic basin
spiral viper
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Did you send buffers?
If yes, then you need more stats to clear the stage

narrow pendant
stoic basin
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Ok

rough sundial
narrow pendant
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Range use like a trap

restive pebble
rigid sparrow
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Sam what am I going to do for BOOKS now! I only have 1,200 mixed left!

sand spruce
rancid badge
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Bruh how to win this are u serious 11k heroes on tbf

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Its on inf wedge

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*tried cav and nothing

smoky dirge
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How can gold chaos

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@rancid badge Bruhhh try inf with inf pH

rancid badge
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I did inf phalanx bro

rocky stirrup
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Stuck here for weeks

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Attack is 530

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Cav one is 13.9k around stage and range is 14.7k around stage

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@spiral viper

spiral viper
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Send buffers with your blast

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Use bombin goblin in cav instead of sage

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@rocky stirrup

rocky stirrup
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Or watcher ?

spiral viper
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Yeah that's good too

rocky stirrup
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Didn't worked

spiral viper
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Weak

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Need more stats

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Try tomorrow

rocky stirrup
urban storm
rocky stirrup
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Max

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Now need more than 530% attack KEKWhands KEKWhands

hardy pine
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So what up guys

tall dirge
spiral viper
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Send t5 cav with p5 familiar and 2 11k hero

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Send buffers too

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And mythic champ cav gear +12 astra

pallid thicket
tall dirge
rigid sparrow
# rocky stirrup Attack is 530

I’m sorry your army atk is 530. Or if is that your average for range, cav , Inf?
If so damn I cannot believe you got that far on those. All I can say as far as the inf , range , cav ones i quick finished then and my lowest ark is range Amat 1003. Mixed is another bag after about 11,250 my finding are that once you don’t quick sweeep if u want to again it doesn’t matter how much might you add like on lower levels. you have to clear all 50 one by for them to finally reset then. And you may quick sweep for another week or so or it could be just 1 day. So keep at it.