🦇┊darknests

[livid canyon]

If you have good enough stats, wall doesn't matter

If you're rallying a player with anti, you test and figure out he's cav front.. would you send inf?? Lol

[mellow hull]

If it's a player the wall would be non existent by the time of the rally, if it's a dn then your stats will decide how fast the wall falls, basically

[simple tinsel]

Yes true, I generally try and avoid mix dn6s at all times lol

[simple tinsel]

I meant the traps on the dn’s wall sorry. With infantry at front, you might suffer heavier inf loss from the traps before the wall is zeroed. With buffer troops in front, they soak up the damage from traps

[livid canyon]

Stats matter.

[simple tinsel]

I’d send range, but main principle of question was being asked not based on opponents formation, but formation you would use to have highest success chance. Because in my guild, I’ll sometimes see members use what I consider to be wrong formation, and was reaching out to see if there was any benefit

[simple tinsel]

Definitely, but in dn6s formation also plays big part in win or loss of it

Wasnt trying to make the question so complex, but I reached out here because I couldn’t find an answer to my question on Google. I’d rather not ask the members why they did a formation a certain way because they might take offense/start drama. And as R4 of guild I try and minimize that

[livid canyon]

Buffers are mainly there to soak up the first couple damage done to your troops and to maintain formation. It doesn't really do much other than that. Doesn't determine success rate

Only exception to this is when sending range rally,

[simple tinsel]

The buffer troops also soak up the first squad attack done to them by the enemy heroes. If had the main troop type you were sending at front, they’ll receive the damage instead and end result will be having less troops to take on the enemy

[livid canyon]

Well if that determines whether you win or lose, then you're weak

Anyways. like I said, it's down to personal preference. If you want, you can have your inf at the back. If you want, you can have em right at the front

I put my inf in front cos I can

[simple tinsel]

The only time formation wouldn’t really matter is if your stats are like 900% or higher lol. Are you saying you have that?

[simple tinsel]

people can do whatever they want - inf in front while going mainly infantry might not matter for dn4s or below 🤷‍♂️ if those are what you mainly do

[livid canyon]

So you ask a question and now you're answering it yourself?😂

[simple tinsel]

I know a lot about DNs and formation. I was asking a question to see if anyone might know when it’d be more effective to utilize the main troops at the front vs. the back though. For most part, troops at back always the way to go

Your stats are definitely on the higher end so I can see why it wouldn’t matter as much for you. I’m 605 inf, 640 range, 645 cav

[simple tinsel]

Actually did a test earlier in day using cav at front and then cav at back with same troops amount on same dn to see what difference would be. Morale left went from 39% the first time to 25% the second time

[fading ruin]

having t5, shield familiar also makes a lot of difference

[livid canyon]

Well I replied ya. Inf rallies are better sent in inf phalanx so that your troops don't take too long to engage the enemy. Simple.
But you made it complicated lol

For other rallies, your main troop type should be at the back

Generally, buffers die before your troops make it to the wall. So having inf at the back== buffers die, inf troops are still walking, rip inf.
Ultimately it doesn't make a lot of difference, but it is what it is

[livid canyon]

And btw, I don't have 900% stats lmao

[fading ruin]

actually, if you consider the battle time is limited to 40 sec, taking long to reach enemy is not always a disadvantage. If enemy is ranged front and going inf blast whatever formation you're gonna win, so there's pretty much no point in putting inf front just to win.

[simple tinsel]

Fine, 750% stats, the right fams, and being in a guild that’s probably pretty high in t5 could also be enough to not have formation matter as much lol

[fading ruin]

inf front will do more damage but in dn that doesn't really matter

when enemy is in cav or inf front, inf front is a disadvantage because you're letting enemy engage in atk more quickly but you are doing little damage overal. So in fighting dn for the best probability, putting inf at the back is the way to go.

[simple tinsel]

I agree. Infantry at front may save more time, but at the expense of being more exposed to the enemy dn troops and losing more inf than normally would if they were at back

[livid canyon]

Sigh. I give up.
Why did you ask the question then in the first place lmao

Personal preference.
But what you're saying now is don't put your main troop type in the front

Remind me not to answer your questions again

[grim nova]

Dn6's new kingdom

[livid canyon]

Beat it

[ionic birch]

Might doesn’t mean experience just remember that

[simple tinsel]

Sorry just saw now. I asked question because I have a lot of knowledge on dns, and every article I come across usually gives universal conclusion of “better at back”. I asked here hoping to get an answer explaining why it might be good to put troops at front. Your first answer “can engage enemy troops” is common sense to me. But that can just be countered with “using them as buffer results in more troop loss due to traps on wall and enemy heroes’ first squad attack”.
I responded saying I can see how it’s partly justified but was hoping to get an answer that explains benefits of not just inf front, but why some people would do main troop type in general at front (including cav and range).

Your next responses sidetracked from main question and said things that were common sense to me like “stats matter” and “wouldn’t send an inf rally at guy with cav front would you?” (As if you’re assuming my question comes down to something as simple as what counters what)

I’m saying your benefit of saving time by putting infantry at front also comes with expense of having less troops to take on main enemy troop type bc they’re being used as buffer.
The picture of you winning a dn with infantry at front doesn’t prove that you would’ve won by a bigger percent than if you had done infantry at the back, and you’d have to do an experiment similar to mine where you lose the dn the first time, and then rerun it a second time with the different formation and see which of the outcomes did better. In the end, I had to do it with cav to confirm that cav at back is better than cav at front. And I guess I’ll have to do same experiment with range and infantry, but I’m pretty sure the results will be consistent

I appreciate your responses, because they’re valid and make sense, but I was looking for an answer that, in the end, could only really be proven by doing an actual experiment, which is something I had to end up doing on my own

[livid canyon]

So have you done experiments with range and infa? Do em and lemme know what happens with the inf

[midnight geyser]

So there are two spartans now

[normal brook]

Hi all! Any advice on this one?

I've tried cav/Inf and inf/ranged with no luck 😅

[livid canyon]

Infa blast with a few buffers

[normal brook]

Cheers thanks 👍🏼

[normal brook]

Thanks! it worked!

[lethal wren]

No.
Some people will tell you the heroes or familiars are an indication.
But it's quite 100% random and you can't tell.

[lethal wren]

Don't ever run dn with "cav/inf" or "inf/range". Just send a blast with buffers, ideally countering whatever there's most of in the nest (or whatever there's least of that will counter you). If you get a bad frontline, just try a different nest.

[normal brook]

Everybody has there own method of hitting dn's. Your advice has made the most sense than any other that I have received. Thank you for that 👌

[livid canyon]

Just blast any dn you hit. Aim to counter the Frontline. If you lose, try again

[fair jay]

What is the trick to winning DN 4 and up?

[lethal wren]

Be stronger

If you're struggling, then your best bet is in the scouting. Spend more time to find a nest you have a chance to beat than wasting the whole guild's time bashing away at futile rallies.

Find a nest that has only 2 types in it - not a mix of all 3. Send a blast attack of the type that won't be countered (if the nest has cav and inf inside, send cav blast with cav heroes and best gear, for example, ideally with a small number of buffers and a formation that puts your main army at the back).
This method works for all levels of nest, you'll be surprised how far you can get.

[open stump]

Right, and get enough backup. more offen than not when you struggle with nest lvl 4 and bellow it's because you don't get enough soldiers or not good enough soldiers (assuming you have been following GnomeAnn and still lose)

[lethal wren]

Still my best advice🤣

[limpid forum]

Anyone have ideas on how to hit 3 type troops darknest ?

[lethal wren]

Same method. But you have a higher chance of failing

After the first hit, you get the report that tells you the formation. Then you resend a blast that will (ideally) counter the frontline and be strong enough to kill the rest.
That's all there is to it

There's no way to know formation before you hit it, so you have a 1/3 chance of a hard counter (and prob lose), 1/3 chance of a matched counter - which you might lose if you're not strong, 1/3 chance of an easy counter and you win (if it's not something like cav front in cav wedge and you aren't a strong lead, in which case, forget it)

[worn oyster]

Just set best

If fail then reset

[ashen violet]

just send 2.3m seige

[lethal wren]

I like to send T1 CAV blast

[ashen violet]

siege is better

2.3m t5 seige

[livid canyon]

Is that why you lose a lot?

[median bay]

What’s a good number for buffers? 4? 1000? 10000? 69?

[livid canyon]

Your choice. I use 800

[shy nexus]

i use 1000 because im poor

[ashen violet]

I use 69 for inf and cav and 420 for rng

But I dont think it makes a difference

[lethal wren]

Well, only the higher level dn5 lose with T1. Need t2 for ess 19+
I guess I'm pretty weak still

[livid canyon]

Noodle. I win dn6 with T1 siege

[lethal wren]

Yeah. Sigh. I feel so weak being a few T4 in my dn6 to buff out the t2

[open stump]

I guess the number you need depend on how fast you achieve your objectif before they die. if they die before you kill whatever you wanted to kill (wall ? front line ?) then you didn't send enough (or at least if they die way too soon.)

[ashen violet]

is it actually possible to beat a dn6 with t2? (ill prolly try full rng dn if possible cuz my inf is 867)

@livid canyon

@mellow hull (idk why i taged you xD)

[mellow hull]

It's cool lol, I don't mind ping as long as if you don't do it to replies and it's not frequent

[ashen violet]

bro i also need an answer xD

[livid canyon]

Doubt it

I've not seen a dn6 with one or two troop types

Always mixed

Can look for an easy one tho and try.. who knows

[ashen violet]

dn5?

[ashen violet]

ok thanks

[livid canyon]

Yep. Totally

Done it before

[ashen violet]

ok thanks

[lethal wren]

Dn5 I've beaten with T1. With T2 is easy. Dn6... I don't think so

[ashen violet]

What r yr stats

[livid canyon]

Noodle. I can beat dn5 with 10k T1

[lethal wren]

Wow you're so stronk! Show report!
I need a full rally of T1 😭

[livid canyon]

The report got lost

[lethal wren]

Just do it again!

[livid canyon]

Ez

Wait I'm coming

Asa left

[lethal wren]

Believable

[static mango]

We'll ping you

[livid canyon]

Thou shall not ping Asa

[midnight geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/whatever-sassy-ugh-duh-eye-roll-gif-15963614

[mellow hull]

For Asa is a fair maiden serving lord Sylunt

[livid canyon]

[ashen violet]

You sure about that @livid canyon

[livid canyon]

[midnight geyser]

[solar vapor]

and your guild rally leader gonna die

rally leader be like:

https://tenor.com/view/burying-dying-dead-grave-gif-17189345

[flint bane]

[solar vapor]

Pog

[lethal wren]

I am the leader, idiot. Pure T1 cav in the full rally. Kills dn5.
Just because your small brain can't imagine that it's possible doesn't mean you should ping

[mellow hull]

YOU DO NOT SERVE OUR LORD SYLUNT?!

[livid canyon]

Who?

[mellow hull]

You! Sylunt is king! Do you serve him?

[livid canyon]

I serve no one

[mellow hull]

IMPUDENT MORTAL!

If lord sylunt sees this he'll surely unleash his wrath upon us

[cloud chasm]

😆

[mellow hull]

Do you find this amusing mortal?

[lethal wren]

We already got the wrath. What do you think the "maintenance" was about!?

[mellow hull]

THESE PEASANTS HAVE NO RESPECT!

[cloud chasm]

Not mortal I cat 😽🖕

[livid canyon]

How dare you call me a mortal? I am a descendant of the old gods. We bow to no one

[ashen violet]

this emoji is annoying, idk why

[mellow hull]

BLASPHEMY! You shall suffer under the hand of Lord Sylunt's most loyal disciple!

[static mango]

Tachi

you nee a chocky milk

[mellow hull]

[mellow hull]

Do you follow Lord Sylunt?

Answer me mortal, or else I shall use the forbidden summoning method

@static mango

[static mango]

[mellow hull]

[static mango]

looks like you forgot who told you about his summoning keywords

[mellow hull]

GASP

[static mango]

looks like you need some spankings, learn to notice and respect your elders

[mellow hull]

Nah why am I bowing to you?!

Sorry lol I forgot you were a believer. Lol emotions run wild in the heat of the moment

[livid canyon]

[mellow hull]

You however...

[livid canyon]

The disciple dares challenge me?

[ashen violet]

[mellow hull]

Just because I worship Lord Sylunt doesn't mean I possess no divinity mortal

[livid canyon]

I am a hybrid between a god Slayer and a dragon Slayer

I slay all

[mellow hull]

Yawn. Slayers are pets within the realm of gods

[livid canyon]

gods fear slayers

[mellow hull]

Weak gods fear slayers, Lord Sylunt and his followers show no fear

WE PREVAIL!

[livid canyon]

Where is this Lord of yours

[mellow hull]

HUSH! He has blessed us with his presence...

[livid canyon]

I challenge him to a game of Life and death.... Rock paper scissors

[mellow hull]

[livid canyon]

[mellow hull]

That's a futile game, Sylunt is OMNISCIENT!

[livid canyon]

I am the great dragon Slayer.. Acnologia.. humans and gods fear me..
Bow before me, and I shall let you live

[mellow hull]

Lord Sylunt doesn't fear death, Death fears Lord Sylunt. He's the only man who struck fear into Chuck Norris

[mellow hull]

I bet my sneeze will be enough to deal with you

[livid canyon]

I once met Chuck Norris. I made him pee his pants

[mellow hull]

That's the fear Lord Sylunt instilled.

[livid canyon]

Nah that was because I have him a supernova wedgie

[mellow hull]

Admit it, you're nothing but fodder when compared to our great god!

Bow MORTAL! GIVE IN TO HIS POWER!

[livid canyon]

Never

I summon Twilight prankster

Wait this is dn channel

[mellow hull]

I DON'T CARE!

We are in the presence of the highest ranking entity on this server

[livid canyon]

Me? Yes you are

[mellow hull]

Open your eyes you impudent mammal, Sylunt is here. OUR god takes time to check on us

It would be nice if he spoke tho, so much work promoting his religion

[livid canyon]

No

I refuse to join

I am the one who shall slay all gods

[mellow hull]

Good luck with that

[livid canyon]

First on my list is... Sylunt

Sylunt the oppresor

[mellow hull]

[worn oyster]

weirdos

[livid canyon]

[static mango]

[cloud chasm]

[autumn vector]

What’s the best setup for a antiscout darknest 4

[fossil tide]

range blast or something

[rustic moat]

That depends on what the darknest hero is. The hero can give a clue as to what the darknest's main troop type is

[fossil tide]

isnt it random

[fossil tide]

ah thought it was random

[rustic moat]

This isnt the up to date one

[ashen violet]

imagine having seige as the main troop type xD

[lethal wren]

No it doesn't

[lethal wren]

Yes. 100% random

[lethal wren]

That's relevant only in the it gives an indication of which troop types might be a bit stronger - has zero bearing on formation.
The only way to know formation is to attack it

[proper lava]

Focus less on the might of the nest and focus on finding better troop comps, single or 2 type troop nests are your best bet.

Running a nest with Inf / Cav inside with a Cav blast and vice versa.

[unique otter]

how much attack stats do i need to win 1 troop type dn5s(as rally captain)?

[ashen violet]

350% i guess

[unique otter]

thanks

[grim skiff]

Nice topic

[lethal wren]

If it's a low level dn5 you can get away with 200% with T4.
You can't ask what stats "for a DN5" without remembering that they range from ess 15 to 25, and after around ess 20 they can have familiars in them which adds a whole extra layer.

[feral anvil]

yeah depends, for example i won a ess23 with 280%stats

[lethal wren]

I won a dn6 in speed gear by accident with 212%

[slate forge]

Wow seems kindoff impossible to pull off

I have around 290% stats only can i take an essence 19-20 one? With lets say dn having 2 troop typea

[mellow hull]

Well with t5 and great base stats, as well as good speed gear it's possible. People win it with full t2 dude

[slate forge]

You must be kidding me hehe I have to try this then now lol a dn5 with my stats n t4s lets hit hehe

[mellow hull]

It only applies to whales tho...

[slate forge]

My purple drums taking ages lol unable to get 3 gold eyes phewwwq

[lethal wren]

We just killed a couple dn6 with T2 only

Familiars makes a big difference. And getting the formation right

[slate forge]

Wow t2-dn6 means attack% matters much more than troops understood..

[lethal wren]

Familiars matter most

[slate forge]

Familiars yes mine are okay sorts. Not like level 10 each m f2p have both hp ones at level 6 thats all hehe

[lethal wren]

Heck, for dn5 we do with T1 cav all the time. Just for the speeeeed

[slate forge]

Amazing I haven't seen my guild tryit ever crazy stats might be 600% types

I m curious be right back will try a dn 5 right away want to try now hehe

[mellow hull]

Well I mean best we've done was ess28 with full t4, and a 1bil might lead

So a full t2 dn6 is not out of the question

[slate forge]

Yes i guess we too do an ess 28 every few days once in a while

But yes we never did t2-t3 on dn6or even dn5

[mellow hull]

See? Gnome, is your lead full champ?

[lethal wren]

Well like I said - I've killed dn6 in speed gear.
Heck, I started killing dn6 with 360% blasts and only f2p fams. At that level I could only do the easy ones, but still. By 400% I could take them down pretty proficiently, and I don't have t5

[lethal wren]

Nope

[mellow hull]

Then I have bad luck with dns

[tough basin]

Hi

[slate forge]

Gnome then whats the strategy here cause my guild is super active n will fill my dn or any any in under a minute.. What should i focus on.. Cause wait let me try n keep an ss and figure out then you can help me understand

[lethal wren]

I'm gonna be busy for a few hours. Don't ping me but feel free to post your stuff and I'll get to it later

[mellow hull]

I can tell you

[slate forge]

Check this I wont ping wither of you if busy dont worry

This is my stats without talent but with gear(no jewels) cav set

@mellow hull

[mellow hull]

Lol you can do lvl19 max

Lvl20 if you're like absolutely lucky and find an easy one

[slate forge]

Hehe man that's hurtful @mellow hull lol got 2 hp familar level 6 and a level 8 which boost heroes s abilities at start

I have set at level 23 fingers crossed

[mellow hull]

Lol man it's not like I could do better

Just saying it like it is

[slate forge]

Failed man only half troops of dn dead it sucks @mellow hull

[mellow hull]

What dn did you do?

[slate forge]

Maybe i should use my jewels.. I have 3 purple each of inf n cav n range but was saving to make gold

Dn 5 ess 23

I have only 3 fams that too not that good as peeps have

[mellow hull]

Nah lol, split golds into purples

Put in those purples, send a pic of the gear you used and the battle report

[slate forge]

Sure sure.. Sending you right away be online... I haven't put jewels in any equipment... So have 3 purple of each attack

@mellow hull

[mellow hull]

Gear?

And no buffers...

[mellow hull]

I see the problem, what heros did you send?

Lol Mino let's not laugh, let's help

Cause with my usual filler I would've lost as well

[slate forge]

Ahan? @mellow hull

[worn oyster]

Green leader pepemods

Prob took too long on wall

[slate forge]

See these are all equipment i have till now all of em

These were my heroes

[mellow hull]

Why did you go leaderless?

Make bombing goblin your leader and do it again with the same heros

[worn oyster]

goes leaderless shows gear

[mellow hull]

Gear and talents don't work if you don't send lead lol, that's why you lost

[static mango]

dont use a green leader, where rose at

[slate forge]

Lol how did u get it out? I was saving my name n al

[worn oyster]

Your guild chat is open

Not hard to look through watcher icons

[mellow hull]

You have a gold bombing, why use a green watcher?

[slate forge]

Okay coool thanks

[slate forge]

Man still slow learner thanks understood

[slate forge]

All f2p at gold

[mellow hull]

You have good heros and fams, as well as full t4 filler with a sprinkle of t5, why go leaderless? Try again lol

[worn oyster]

Also do you not have any jewels?

[slate forge]

Sorry still learning very new at attacks just started now attacks see. My kills almost 0

[static mango]

jewel your mix first tho

[mellow hull]

It's cool, as long as you're learning

[slate forge]

Yes team is supportive they all said try again cause i told em i sent lead now i understand i didn't

[worn oyster]

Tidal and beast helm and good mix

[slate forge]

I have 3 purple each of each attack waiting to get gold then will put

[mellow hull]

Put them in at purple, 4 purples are better than 1 gold

[slate forge]

Yes i want to learn first not get burnt so yes teach me pls

[worn oyster]

Stop wasting your mats on side pieces

[slate forge]

Yes pls check my gears sent all equipment pics

[slate forge]

Yes would love to see i m building comps currently

[slate forge]

I wont tell ne what to delete n what to keeo

[worn oyster]

You don’t need Trojan offhand, beast mainhand-chest-legs, bee chest-mainhand, drider legs, jade accessory

Don’t even need to delete them

[slate forge]

Okay but soo much info in internet confuses me pls as u all saw all my equipment can u tell me a good set to make? Cav inf range mix. Mostly will use mix as no way a RL in thousand years lol

[worn oyster]

Just stop upgrading them

Focus on 1 accessory at a time

As in don’t build 2 cups and 2 scrolls at the same time

[mellow hull]

Okay let's do this, are you a heavy p2p?

Or light?

[slate forge]

Okay i see the stats n get confused

[slate forge]

Sir I m very light actually just a f2p now not spending

[mellow hull]

There are 8 pieces I want you to spend all of your mats on, that will be your mix set

[slate forge]

Yes pls if can guild me

[mellow hull]

Frostwing sword, bumble helm, firewall plate Dragons talon, mitts, ONE cup, a blight ring and 1 scroll

That first

Forget every other war piece

Once all 8 are gold ping me

[slate forge]

Okay noting em down

[worn oyster]

:OMEGALUL:

[slate forge]

Gold hehe

[mellow hull]

You need to take this slow lol, so many mats wasted

[slate forge]

Ages

[mellow hull]

You aren't a rally lead by any chance so it will be quite easy, I chose the cheapest pieces

[slate forge]

Ahan thanks will try what approx timeline shall i be able to do it?

I will not delete now equipment i ll just not waste anymore

[worn oyster]

Few years

[mellow hull]

Lol that's only if you're 100% f2p, you're not f2p

[slate forge]

I guess i made one chest equipment n one shoes n one main weapon which arent needed

[mellow hull]

60% of your gear isn't needed lol

[slate forge]

I am man... What makes u think lol i m not

[slate forge]

Gosh tell me so i will delete em now before too late

[mellow hull]

There are exclusively p2p pieces. Which f2p player has blue storm tasset and 3 purple vials?

[mellow hull]

Don't delete them

[slate forge]

I have no idea but I didn't buy such packs now it was very early on n very little next to nothing. I spent rest got fron guild fests only

[mellow hull]

As long as if the first purchase bonus is not there you're p2p

[slate forge]

Gosh you mean i wasted some p2p material shiiiit

[mellow hull]

Yes you did

[slate forge]

I had 0 idea man

Feeling angry gosh dumb move

I did not know

[mellow hull]

Now those 8 pieces are the only war gear you need to craft, if you get other ultra rares forget about them

[slate forge]

Oo god.. Yes understood

[mellow hull]

Once gold come back and I'll guide you from there

[slate forge]

Thanks n shall i place purple jewels in any of em?

Got 3 of each

[mellow hull]

Save all your jewels for now

[slate forge]

Okay i was saving yup

[mellow hull]

Stay shielded, cause I'm sure your comp is ass cheeks

[slate forge]

? What?

Hehe yes yes weak comp i know man got burned many times forget shield still playing lol big achievement hehe

Thanks will talk after getting to gold

Nice to have your guidance @mellow hull tc bro

[slate forge]

How much more progress n comp needed to start eating 2-3 rallies? Tashi

[slate forge]

*Tachi

Still failed attack even after using lead out in battle

[slate forge]

Learning

[slate forge]

Done changed still lost

[worn oyster]

then its not for you let someone else lead

[slate forge]

Yes focusing now on one monster one gear

[slate forge]

I was just a small farmer till now now learning to switch to eating rallies

[slate forge]

Yes understood gears need upgrading

[worn oyster]

stop

[slate forge]

Oh sorry is it pinging you each time i reply?

Apologies

[worn oyster]

i dont need to know everything about you pepemods

[slate forge]

Got it thanks for guiding tc

[lethal wren]

Well now that everyone fixed your biggest mistake - not having leader in and dafuq gear, let's discuss the other reason why you're gonna keep struggling at nests:

This was a mix nest. Forget it.

Especially with weak stats, start by putting your effort into scouting. Find a nest with only one troop type, or 2 types, and send a blast of the one that can't be countered by either. (So if it's inf/ range inside you send inf with a couple of buffers in a formation that puts your main army at the back).

Trust me, doing this alone (and adding your leader ffs) will up your game incredibly.

Heck if you find a nest with range/cav inside (NO INF!!), this is the easiest ever. You send full range with a very small number of cav buffers (like maybe 12 cav troops) in cav phalanx (if you have wedges, in every other case use wedge), but for this specific instance go range in cav phal and you will force the cav from in the nest to rush out of the wall and die fast.
Even weak stats can get a lot higher level ess with that method.

But don't do 3-type mix nests ever if you can avoid it. (Obv dn6 are all mixed but start with the level you're at before we expand)

[slate forge]

Wow this is a big piece of info. Never used the wedges or any formations now will do it. Thanks will try it now Gnome

Its like whatever troops i want to kill first their wedges formation I shall use with a small t2 of it in it and rest all its counter coool

[worn oyster]

not really how it works

[slate forge]

Will read elsewhere too on it. See vids to improve

Also just found 2DN in around 11 i scouted of level 5 DN

1. 1.5 m t4 R and 500k t4 C
2. 1.5 m t4 C and 600k t4 R
   Which should I hit n using what troops n fornation?

[cloud reef]

2, with range blast

[slate forge]

Ok thanks and what formation

Cav phalanx?

Just as Gnome said will try once few t2 cav to get dn cav out n rest t4 range

[cloud reef]

Yeah, try that.

[slate forge]

Thanks was successful

Ess 16 but dn5 first time i cleared

[lethal wren]

If you never used formations, you set yourself up to failure

The main thing is to put a small amount of buffers and pick a formation (usually wedge) that puts your main army at the back. (So cav blasts in inf wedge, etc)
Doing this will really make a huge difference.

Next level to work on is your fams.
Without having looked at them: they suck

[mellow hull]

I can't believe your guild didn't even help lol

[lethal wren]

I'm constantly surprised at how shitty a lot of guilds are

[livid canyon]

Formations are for the weak

[lethal wren]

Dude is weak.

[livid canyon]

Who needs a lead

[unkempt karma]

hey

so i am doing a lvl 1 rally the max amount of troops is full some people sent some t3 some t1 i sent some t2 should my troops be safe

[proper lava]

Okay, so only 1% of your troops sent will ever get injured and go to infirmary. So yeah they'll be safe.

[unkempt karma]

ok thats good none die?

[proper lava]

Nope

[unkempt karma]

whats that pictute above i see a lot of deaths

[proper lava]

The deaths will still show up as deaths in the report.
But they won't die.

[unkempt karma]

and also can you spectate a rally

[proper lava]

Only in the sense that I could look at your kingdom and watch the army march to it.

[unkempt karma]

ohhh

okay thank you sm for the help bro

[proper lava]

No problem

[mellow hull]

The picture is the report of what your troops done to the target

[unkempt karma]

okk

what the

@proper lava

deaddd??

[proper lava]

They won't be dead

[unkempt karma]

why does it say that

[proper lava]

Because it also says...

[lethal wren]

Darkest rally:
It's a practice rally. No matter what happens in the report, no troops die (they get "saved") and you will get a maximum of 1% of your troops in infirmary.
If you take a few minutes to actually read up on this channel you'll learn a lot without asking noob questions

[unkempt karma]

nvm its fine

[proper lava]

Found them back in your barracks?

[slate forge]

Level 8 aquarius level 8 evil weedil

[lethal wren]

I was right

[slate forge]

They are busy lol fighting wars n yes some times they do help but its mostly try. N learn

[mellow hull]

Not with money, please turn off ping when replying

[slate forge]

Yes gnome i dont have many other options

[lethal wren]

https://c.tenor.com/ddg6ge2H_T0AAAAM/discord-reply.gif

[slate forge]

How n where to do man tried cudnot find it

[lethal wren]

At least you haven't put orbs into wasted fams. Those aren't bad choices to begin

[slate forge]

I have just 6 familar attacks skills unlocked

Yes n gnome how to turn of pinging u by mistake

[lethal wren]

Your already have aquiris and weevil. That's good.
You need to focus on: trickstar, gemming gremlin, hoarder and Gryphon.

Don't waste orbs on any other

[slate forge]

Have trickster level 7 gremlin level 5 hoarder level 2 gryphon level 5

[lethal wren]

Okay you're on the right track

[slate forge]

Still have 240+ red orbs 80 yellow i guess and 60 of other kind

[lethal wren]

The yellow only use on Gryphon.

You're actually doing okay on fams, keep going with what you have.

[slate forge]

Also how to turn pinging offf

[lethal wren]

I sent a gif that tells you how

[slate forge]

Yes trying

[mellow hull]

Reply, then on top of the keyboard on your right you'll see a blue @ on thingy, press that

[slate forge]

Thanks

[slate forge]

Wow soo cool understood

Yes now on wil try various combos in dnss n da s

Little buffer n all.

[lethal wren]

With the fams in dn - use the stacking fam that matches your main army troop type, and gryphon. Do you have 3rd slot?

[slate forge]

Thanks to you both gnome and tachi I know much more than i did 2 days back... N glad you actually teach with patience mostly peeps i met in 6 months for advice on any forums are such toxic immature brats thats why i stopped to ask questions from long time

[slate forge]

Yes 3 slots

[lethal wren]

Tempestite is a good 3rd one or you can put one of your wall fams since you already have them

[slate forge]

Sorry again pinged wont happen again

[lethal wren]

Why doesn't your guild teach you this stuff?

[slate forge]

I know hp ones are good only for eating rallies but I did not know much in range i used trickster n etc

[lethal wren]

If you're attacking ideally you want attack fams

[slate forge]

Well they do but mostly they are all working peeps n time isssues I am one of the few from Asia lol

[slate forge]

Yes now will upgrade as u said

[lethal wren]

What's your might at?

[slate forge]

I m 448m

[lethal wren]

You need a better guild tbh

[slate forge]

Raising might sadly been soloed 3 times in a year soo yes bad at shields n stuff this is highest i gotton to... Last time was 420m

[lethal wren]

You shouldn't be at your level and not knowing basic stuff like this. A good guild would have helped you out by now

[slate forge]

They hunt very goood n do lots of dns daily that's whats helping me get materials for equipment tbh

[lethal wren]

Doesn't everyone do lots of DN daily?

[slate forge]

Yes actually i was afraid to ask been here for 3-4 months only... As i told mer toxic guilds last few times soo just didn't have enough boost in mood to ask

Here i have been like many weeks and now mustered courage to ask and glad i did many veterans are kind like urself

[lethal wren]

Lol most people in here are toxic children

[slate forge]

Naah gnome some high mights treat people like trash in fact i left game twice after being zeroed cause of toxic guiild i had been in... They b like p2p and then tease

One dude was like over 50+ n still toxic... No age for toxic peeps or category

My last to last guild i dont remember what new name the guild had was 20b might

[lethal wren]

That's just sad

[lucid eagle]

How to how to counter this?
Would cav and range do? in a cav phalanx

[livid canyon]

Cav only.. with a few buffers, range phalanx

[lethal wren]

And be stronger

[ashen violet]

for cav blast, which is better ? rng phal or inf wedge?

[lethal wren]

Wedge

[ashen violet]

yeah, i also used that, but considering asa mostly answers correct, i got confused

xDxD

[lethal wren]

Ok a darknest in that formation... If you can't beat a cav front with cav, basically you're too weak.
You can try it in phal and you can try sending a range blast, or you could save yourself a bunch of time and just scout up another nest that has a favorable front

The hours of my life wasted while someone keeps running the same DN over and over trying different shit and I'm expected to fill it while they won't take my advice... 😖
I just won't join any more.
Ignore them and run a quick dn6 while they bash away at a nest they can't beat

[ashen violet]

wait what is even this???

there is no connecttion lmao

[livid canyon]

Hahaa.. tbh I just send whatever formation and still smack the shit outta the dn.. I use phalanx and wedge depending on my mood lol

[livid canyon]

Referring to the inf/cav dn... If it's cav front and you can't beat it with cav, then you're weak and should look for another dn

[lethal wren]

Which is what I said 😅

[livid canyon]

Yep

[ashen violet]

yeah lol, but i was saying for an actual blast at a person/fort ....

[livid canyon]

Oh. Thought you were referring to the question about the dn

[lethal wren]

Strategy for darknests is not the same as for castles, and forts are a whole different ballgame

[ashen violet]

In all the 3 cases one should try to get the best result.... how is it really different?

[lethal wren]

Dude turn off the ping

[ashen violet]

How to permanently turn it off? I'm nub

[lethal wren]

You can't

[ashen violet]

This time I turned off

[lethal wren]

Have to turn off the @ every time you reply

[ashen violet]

Oh ok

Lol

[lethal wren]

It's different because: darknests have a huge wall. You need to set buffers and formation to account for that, especially at higher levels.
Castles you're facing possibly tens of millions of troops. The Wall is irrelevant, and a lot hinges on whether the opponent is online and can change formation or not.
Forts, there's no anti scout, there's a whole different set of Heroes and research and you're usually facing a rally lead that's serious business running 424 or 442 formations with p5 fams and 800+ stats.

This is darknest channel. Darknests are very easy and fairly unchanging. They don't change formation, the troop count is fairly limited.
Once you work out the formula for killing nests, there's not much more to it, except improving your strength.
Fams make a huge difference.
If you're struggling and you can manage the risk, try going into fury just before the army hits - if you're not really safe unshielded, time it fast, speed your lead back and then hit the random relocate until you can shield again.

[ashen violet]

Why do I think that you think that I am a newbie

Lol

[lethal wren]

You keep asking dumb questions and saying dumb shit

[ashen violet]

Ur stupid ngl, I didnt even asked any questions

[night osprey]

It is in Inf wedge , what should i set ?

[livid canyon]

Hm.
Personally, I'd go range and bully the inf, but if you're not strong enough for that, try cav.

If you lose, try another dn

[ashen violet]

Cav prolly

[livid canyon]

Bouta hit this

[night osprey]

Ok .. But which phalanx or wedge should i use ?

[livid canyon]

Range phalanx or inf wedge

I prefer phalanx personally tho.. don't ask me why

[lethal wren]

This is literally a question.
Asking me why you think what you think.
Don't project onto me - don't assume I think you think anything. It's clear you don't

[ashen violet]

I just meant that whatever you told, I knew ages ago....

Like why was that big msg even typed... who asked? I meant that when doing a cav blast, on dn or player or fort , its makes no difference.... buffers and formation is important in all

How the actual fck is that related to 424 and 442 and all the other sht you typed

I have been leading for quite a long while , I know all that stuff... prolly better than you

[livid canyon]

You asked this lol

[ashen violet]

Just leave this topic , nvm

[lethal wren]

You literally asked

[lethal wren]

Ask dumb questions, get given answers, then decide that you think the other people think you're dumb.
I never said you're dumb, but you sure act like it

Kid keeps asking questions and then saying "who even asked" when gets answers.
Smooth brain right there

[ashen violet]

Bro, ok thanks for yr time

But I meant that when sending a cav blasts, we should always try to do the most damage.... irrespective of gear, we should always have buffer troops and send march in inf wedge

And when I said " how is different " , I was being sarcastic

But still thanks for yr time

Ok

[tulip basin]

[lethal wren]

You're wrong about how it works with the difference between attacking a DN/ Castle / wonder though.
But I like when other people do dumb shit. The dumber you are the stronger I get

[ashen violet]

No you are wrong, cuz there is no difference

A cav blast will always remain a cav blast

[lethal wren]

Ok hun

Good luck with that

[ashen violet]

In general attacking though, yes there is difference, but blast is always a blast

[ashen violet]

Hahah sure

Sorry ping

[lethal wren]

No one is disputing what a cav blast is.
But when setting formations, you run certain things differently on a DN than against a castle. And wonders are a whole different strategy

[ashen violet]

Dudeeeeee

[lethal wren]

You can't take what you do for a DN and just copy the same thing onto castles and do the same damage. Castles don't have walls.

Go test it if you like ;)

[ashen violet]

That's what I'm saying, I was talking about cav blast from the starting, not other formations for forts

Yes castles dont have wall, but still buffers are imp

[lethal wren]

You keep saying shit that demonstrates very very clearly that you don't comprehend what's being said.

[ashen violet]

733m kills is not a joke just so you know

[lethal wren]

Fuck off. Low IQ can't even manage to turn off ping

[ashen violet]

Or if u wanna tell, ok go ahead what difference is there between wall and not wall? U mean to say that buffers r not imp for PVP rallies?

[ashen violet]

Hahah now u change the topic

Haha now this c*nt blocked me, I'm happy tbh....

Dont get what this guy thinks he is

[livid canyon]

[lethal wren]

People who are incapable of not pinging get blocked. I don't need pings when I'm rallying someone

[livid canyon]

Chill out y'all

[lethal wren]

I'll so chill 😊

[shy nexus]

[static mango]

#f2p

[midnight geyser]

#f2p

[feral anvil]

#f2p

[slate forge]

Free to be paid

[slate forge]

#f2p

[earnest violet]

F2P?

[open stump]

I don't know if that's an actual question or not. but just in case F2P stand for "free to play" (comonly use to refer to people not paying real money within the game.).
But I'm guessing you knew that and that wasn't a real question >.> oh well

[static mango]

You're explaining what f2p means to the f2p himself

[livid canyon]

Didn't he have a F2p role once?

[open stump]

My memory isn't good enough to remember who knows what so wwhen there is a question that I know the answer of I try to answer just in case ^^
Best case the person was actually asking and have an answer, worst case they already know and brush it off

[coral fractal]

I did my first dn7 guys so proud

[tiny river]

After 502 days in this game i finally did it

[ashen violet]

try dn69 soon

[coral fractal]

Already did 🥱

[ashen violet]

[earnest violet]

Yes, I had.

Also, I had that "Guild Basher" role which accidentally got removed when I left the server and rejoin.

Am I still the F2P CEO though?

[iron jasper]

No , It's me now

[worn oyster]

since when

[iron jasper]

Everyone knows me as the F2P farmer

[worn oyster]

heavy quotes around everyone

[lethal wren]

How many P2Ps have you harvested so far?

[livid canyon]

Who are you again?

[iron jasper]

I don't harvest them

[iron jasper]

A F2P Farmer

https://tenor.com/view/peterson-farm-bros-superman-farmer-super-farmer-gif-8467003

[pale forge]

If I found a 1.3mil inf and 700k dn, what troops should I send ?

[mellow hull]

Send report

[livid canyon]

700k what?

[static mango]

700k dn

[livid canyon]

He wants to rally 700k dns?

Op

[feral anvil]

[iron jasper]

11m
Thank god it was a dn lol

[bright egret]

<@&699766995788496926> can we get clear information if essence level matters in term of reward or it is all about essence color? There are many posts around/yt video claiming both versions :D It would be nice to have somewhere confirmed info

[desert tangle]

pinged mod rip

[rustic moat]

What do you need that requires moderating in the Discord server?

[bright egret]

I have no idea what other role can be used to get some official information :D If I made it wrong I am sorry and kindly ask if there is any way to flag someone who can provide such info. For some reason moderator role seemed the best choice across all I can see

[desert tangle]

moderator of discord server has no relation with igg

[bright egret]

I am sorry then :< Going to close in myself again

[slate forge]

No no its not that just an advise many peeps here n mods too are busy and hate pings.. Just whatever you need to ask put in the named channel and definitely within a few minutes to hours as and when anyone who knows is available they will answer your question.

[slate forge]

When new everyone makes a mistake and also you apologised so chill no one should penalise you, just they are in soo many server pings annnoys them or anyone for that matter.. When replying to anyone just turn ping off and ask any question... I myself am very inquisitive and ask tons of questions daily everyone here is helpful and some are into pulling each other s leg once in a while.. Happy gaming hope all clear?

[candid jolt]

Essence level also matters. You won't see much difference between ess 15 and ess 16, but ess 24 will have generally noticible better rewards, and they're all the same colour (yellow). Tbh the rewards from ess are all fairly mediocre compared to the time and effort you put in scouting and getting everyone to join, and healing if you run badly. So don't go overboard with freaking out of your lab is empty for a bit.

[fossil tide]

yes who wouldnt want 3 50% boots from a level 19 essence

[worn oyster]

That’s 2700 gems right that pretty worth ngl

[livid canyon]

My fav is the army size boost from ess26-28..

[lethal wren]

Yeah the army boosts from high level ess is pretty good. But the likelihood of getting something dumb from random ess is also ugh. Even getting RSS from ess 28🙄

[livid canyon]

Aren't they 20% attack boosts? Can't remember

[lethal wren]

I think I've gotten some size boost from dn6 as well. Those are handy

[ashen violet]

u can get 50 % atk boost but they are very rare, or my luck scks

[lethal wren]

Nah they rare

Exp potions are pretty common from red ess.

[ashen violet]

💯

[livid canyon]

Meh I don't need the potions..
Army size boost ftw! That's 5k gems!

[open gull]

what would you send here?

[austere pawn]

inf

[open gull]

What formation?

[austere pawn]

inf phal

[open gull]

Thank you

[austere pawn]

mhm

[open gull]

@austere pawn buffers needed?

[austere pawn]

yes

more inf

[frail gale]

Around 2.7m infantry t3 (with infantry gears and infantry heroes) infantry phalanx

[desert tangle]

?

[open gull]

What would you send here?

[ashen violet]

again inf blast

but u will need better stats for this one

[austere pawn]

ye

[open gull]

Around how much %?

[austere pawn]

how much you got?

[open gull]

We just did this one with full rally but probably his stats are low

[ashen violet]

400%

i dont really know how much stats exactly needed, i dont usually run dns

[open gull]

I’ll show the inf gear he has

[ashen violet]

k

[open gull]

its in screenshots

[austere pawn]

tell him to swap to a golden hero first of all

[open gull]

Probably wants to use that as his hero

[austere pawn]

golden hero way better

[open gull]

Yeah i just use rose for mine

[austere pawn]

hol up

how much might he got?

[open gull]

436mil @austere pawn

[austere pawn]

ah ite

[open gull]

So if there’s two troop types you send what exactly?

[austere pawn]

the one that counters the other

for example if its rng and cav you send rng

[open gull]

I’ll send another

[austere pawn]

inf

[ashen violet]

send seige blast, 2.3m t5 seige

[open gull]

same goes for 3 troop types?

[open gull]

don’t have that lol

[austere pawn]

3 troop types just send the counter to the biggest squad

works most of the time if it aint a dn6

[ashen violet]

for 3 troop types send your best blast, or do was kajiu said

dude my keyboard is more fcked up than my name

[austere pawn]

theres also this

not always correct since wedges exist but pretty helpful

[open gull]

Thanks will use this for preference

[austere pawn]

no worries

[lethal wren]

That is 1000% irrelevant

[lethal wren]

Actually for more reliable results, do send buffers (just a few of the other types) and use a formation that puts your main army (in this case inf) at the back - ideally wedge but if you don't have wedges unlocked then phalanx. Extrapolate for all troop types.

[slate forge]

Thanks mam for sharing... So wedges are better to sit in mixed in most of the situations? Any specific case to go cav or phalanx cause i heard cav being fast can come in faster... Is inf wedge safer to go offline in for some time if all troops in mixed proportion?

[livid canyon]

They meant for darknests

[fading ruin]

ranged wedge is the most difficult to zero

[slate forge]

Oh my god... N for normal attacks wars? Asa can you guide a little?

[slate forge]

Okayy thanks

[livid canyon]

What exactly is the question

[open gull]

What do you send in a 424 DN?

[mellow hull]

Your strongest blast, then counter when you get a walkback and don't win

[lethal wren]

Why would anyone do a DN 424 😂

[open gull]

The DN had 400k+ INF, 200k+RNG, 400k+ CAV.

[lethal wren]

You'd send cav and hope you get lucky with the frontline.

[fossil tide]

surprised this won

[earnest violet]

It was a rally?

[quick totem]

Obviously

Max size is 375k...more than that rally

Was it a war rally or dn?

[livid canyon]

Dn

[fossil tide]

darknests are wet noodles

[open stump]

still surprising that only beating 6% of the soldiers of the nest gave them a victory lol

[marsh fiber]

Why my luck is not like that 🧐

[royal frost]

Hlo

[lucid urchin]

inf blast with 4 cav 4 range and go cav wedge if your stats is around 390 you will win with 2.3 mil rally

[still coral]

Dn 6 winning with lvl9 dn research and 412 range stats near. Anyone who won?

[lethal wren]

I've beat a dn6 with 212% in speed gear

First one I killed with 370% in cav blast gear, not having all researches maxed and only 2 fam slots.

[livid canyon]

That question was asked 12 days ago lmao. Doubt the nest will stick around till now

[real ingot]

DN6 are not spawning after the update. Anyone observed the same?

[desert tangle]

yes thats the same for a lot of kingdoms but i dont think its all

[bleak gyro]

No more level 6 dn?

[desert tangle]

should be back soon

[bleak gyro]

🥲

[maiden mantle]

😂 forgot to swap gear hit with speed how we able to win with 200% hahah

[glad terrace]

Well a darknest will now hit you, uno reverse card noobs

[scenic hatch]

If you can win dn6 rallies, is that a good indication of stregnth for your stats or no?

[mellow hull]

Nope. It just means you're a "decent" player. It honestly doesn't need much to win an ess28 dn6.

[pale forge]

What for this one ?

[desert tangle]

cav blast with buffers

[pale forge]

Do you mean with familiars ?

[lethal wren]

Buffers. A couple troops of the other types than your main blast to fill out formation. Like 12 inf and range with the full cav army

[night osprey]

Dn in ranged wadge .. i tried range in inf wedge but it didn't work , should i try cav wedge , range phalanx or ?

[livid canyon]

Hm.. try range in inf phalanx. And make sure your buffers don't die before wall goes down

[fading ruin]

using cav wedge you should be able to kill half their ranged and start attacking their cav. if that doesn't work it's your stats problem

[open gull]

For DN 6 are there any two troop types or are most of them mixed?

[trim forge]

Always mixed but some have majority one or two troop types

[open gull]

what would you send here?

[mellow hull]

Inf would be the safest option, at the back with enough buffers to withstand the wall

[cerulean ether]

Fams goblin, Gyphron, evil weevil.. Can i run a dn ess 19+ ?? Only first fam is maxed.. 2 and 3 are 4-5 lvl

[mellow hull]

Not 19+. Limit is ess19 with good filler.

After ess lvl19 it just gets crazy

[cerulean ether]

So what will be the minimum stats required to do a dn 19+?

[lethal wren]

You could do an ess 19 with your stats. But not reliably. And not any old 19+. Like you prob wouldn't kill one with familiars. But a really basic basic ess 19 or 20... With like, 1 troop type... I think you could kill it.

[velvet gazelle]

#🌏┊languages

[green thorn]

full inf

[eternal estuary]

👀

[iron jasper]

😸

[timid condor]

👀

[violet mulch]

[simple tinsel]

Nowadays there’s too many factors to give an answer for minimum stats required to do an ess19 dn

Familiars, heroes being used, etc. plus big part involves if ess19 involving either 1, 2, or mix of all 3 troop types

[simple tinsel]

Never mind just scrolled up and saw this

I agree with what GnomeAnn said

[lethal wren]

Always wise to do that

[velvet gazelle]

?warn @halcyon coral stop spamming emojis

[sick garden]

Kadare#0745 has been warned. || stop spamming emojis

[gaunt tiger]

👍

[abstract sentinel]

[wary epoch]

Hiii

[mighty parrot]

[wary epoch]

[iron jasper]

[heady plinth]

with purple gear can i win dn nvl6?

[vagrant current]

With gold jewelry maybe and t5

[bronze girder]

30 minute Darknest timers PLEASE

[wary epoch]

Many purple gears are in game bro

[obtuse cedar]

❤️

[ionic fractal]

??

[obtuse cedar]

I told may clan don't join because it's fake rally

[lone fossil]

your clanmate who joined is dumb

[obtuse cedar]

I don't Kwon no battle report

No battle report

[iron jasper]

hello

hell

🥐

[obtuse cedar]

No battle report

[iron jasper]

my castel level is 23 and i am kingdom in 190

[obtuse cedar]

I'm new player in new kingdom

[iron jasper]

what is your kingdom

[obtuse cedar]

May castle to 13 sow low to up because I don't have many to speed and may base all way's attack ader Titan in this kingdom

[ionic fractal]

1034 hmm

[obtuse cedar]

Yup

[molten citrus]

Wtf

:YESSIR:

[carmine ruin]

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[wary epoch]

Yes lmaoo 🤣

[peak hound]

Inf Blast With Little Ranged on the back :)

[wary prawn]

Hi

[tepid thunder]

👍

[iron jasper]

in which Kingdom you benbharimali

And my might is 30........something

[stray monolith]

[polar cairn]

#🦇┊darknests .. . Hello everyone.. 😋

[wary epoch]

[undone lagoon]

[iron jasper]

[heady plinth]

today I defeated an essence 27 with no talents

I like the nests to range

[visual crescent]

👍

[simple tinsel]

Yes, depending on the purple gear you have…

You’d probably need gear that is made from the ultra rare drops

[lavish turtle]

IGG ID: 1094893529

[polar cairn]

🔥 💯

[serene rain]

👍

[mighty crest]

👍

[bleak jasper]

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[oblique hornet]

This isn't a place to put down ur IGG ID

[zenith yarrow]

[lusty roost]

👍 👍

[heady plinth]

I'll show you my equipment later, I'm out of the game now

[willow anvil]

Xd

[keen peak]

[shell urchin]

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[serene creek]

💯

[weary meadow]

[mellow hull]

Why would you send that?

[restive spruce]

+250k t5

Could i have won with a full rally?

[wary epoch]

[wary epoch]

Yes maybe 😅

[restive spruce]

Ty will try when more players r on then

[leaden frost]

[bronze tapir]

[drifting marlin]

[primal oasis]

💩

[winter ingot]

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[rigid bone]

[midnight flower]

[iron jasper]

Dobro jutro

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[somber kindle]

if a dn that have 380k inf 240k range and 350k cav and it is range wedge so which phalanx/wedge i should use?

[iron jasper]

Ranged with inf phalanx or Cav wedge

[carmine ruin]

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[main verge]

Dobro jutro

[iron jasper]

Dobar dan

[main verge]

😂

[somber kindle]

okay thanks alot

[main verge]

Kako ste

[smoky dew]

IS ANY NEW REDEEM CODE

[iron jasper]

🍴

[vague escarp]

Hi everybody

[torn fossil]

#💬┊general

[chilly python]

👍

[iron jasper]

[chilly python]

🤨

[stray nova]

Need help calling this please.Ess 20.

[jade thicket]

Send inf

[feral anvil]

Go cav😎

[iron jasper]

you would easily win if you didnt send buffer because the dn would swap to inf phalanx if you send full range and you would fight then cav first

[frail knot]

[pliant anvil]

Range in cav wedge

[iron jasper]

No

[timid horizon]

Why are all the level 5 dn’s under +19 this guild fest? It is insane how hard they are to find….

[livid canyon]

Because other guilds also target em

[timid horizon]

No, this is more than usual. I know other guilds target them, but there is an excess amount of 15, and 16. I do them every gf and have never had to look in more than 5 to find one over +19 and yet I am looking all around me and moving around and still cannot find any.

There are lots of dn’s but they are all under the +19…

[long kayak]

It's completely randomized

[timid horizon]

Again, I have been playing this game for 3 years and this is new…. It is not just me. My whole guild has spent 30 minutes looking all over the kingdom and we are not even finding one that is a +19…. It’s random but it’s different this gf..

And again the level 5 dn’s are everywhere they are just under 19…

[livid canyon]

Just run dn6

[timid horizon]

Some of our members are not strong enough and why does that have to be the default? I just want to know why it’s going on…. It seems mighty convenient that it is happening during gf when everyone needs them…

[open gull]

what would you send here?

[livid canyon]

Send your best attack. That way you'll get the front and retry if needed

[inland tangle]

Hit whatever till you get their front

[lethal wren]

Maybe you didn't do enough ess 19 quests to notice. That's always been a common occurrence, especially during GF. Which is why I'm so glad there's dn6

[timid horizon]

Again not the problem. I do them all the time, this is why I am saying something…. I do them outside gf too, and literally this has never happened….. 5 people in my guild spread out and could not find one over a +19 for more than a half hour and I have 8 armies to go looking and that is just me….

And again there were level 5 dns everywhere, just really low levels…

[lethal wren]

Random chance is random

[timid horizon]

Yeah, so random it has only happened once in 3 years, yeah random….

[livid canyon]

FYI that's how it's always been. Same as how Gremlins seem to be absent from lab when you pick the quest, and how you skip over gremlins in tycoon when you're on quest. It's shitty, we all know. No use whining about it

If you been playing for over 3 years and your guild still can't run a dn6, then something is wrong somewhere

[mellow hull]

Question also is, how often were you doing them outside of gf? Because now they're more saught after, regardless of its low numbers, so yeah its like finding lvl5 tiles, they're rare on normal days but near impossible during guild fest

[cerulean depot]

Why bother asking if every explaination given is countered by "ive been playing for 3years"

[strange pollen]

Is there lv 29 essence out there?

[livid canyon]

No

[wary berry]

Nope

[wary berry]

Judge what phalanx it would be like traps fams on the wall

[mellow hull]

That's random but okay

[paper moat]

Are darknests now became stronger and difficult to beat? I usually win ess 19 or 20 DNs as long as they are filled up and has no familiars. But now, we can't win. I even have higher stats and boosts now than before.
Another member tried a dn 4 ess 14. We all sent t4 troops. But the t3 troops of the dn prevailed. And it doesn't have mixed troops in it. Just 2 troops composition.

[mellow hull]

Well the leads are weak then, plus, you just chose the wrong dns. Plus I don't think I've seen a 19+ ess Darknest without familiars

[winter grove]

19 and 20 essence has no familiars, all dn over ess 21 has familiars

[iron jasper]

some have

[winter grove]

I never seen an ess 19 with familiars for now

[iron jasper]

its pretty rare but some have

[pure vector]

Hi

[rustic moat]

Hello

[maiden vessel]

Hello

How you all

[next dew]

Good

[iron jasper]

Post your igg id at #925521971482075206 not here

[broken plume]

Haj

[iron jasper]

Don't ping me turn off the @

[small wraith]

Hello. Why should we send buffers for dn? i usually see someone sending 100 pcs of soldiers aside from the main troop to send. 😓

[gusty pike]

buffers manipulate the wall interaction (if you sent a ranged blast at a castle, with no buffers, the defenders will charge out and automatically swap to infantry phalanx, which counters your rally)...you can use this to your advantage against darknests that only have cavalry and ranged, sending pure ranged means they will swap to infantry phalanx (with no infantry), so your ranged can shred through their cavalry

buffers also limits the initial damage taken by your army when the battle begins with squad manipulation, they take the hits for your actual army (your rallies will usually be weak if you didnt send buffers)

you would have to pair buffers with the appropriate formation and troop type for maximum damage (please correct me if I'm wrong)

[odd scaffold]

You are right and correct (best) lineups are as follows:

Inf - cav phalanx
Range - inf phalanx
Cav - range wedge

[gray skiff]

I always don't help but notice that when I attack with inf or cav and place them in the 1st line, I mean it's own phalanx, that help to drop the wall fast, before suffering any loss in moral.
On the contrary, if I placed them in 2nd or 3rd line, they will suffer loss in moral before even they reach the wall.
For rang attacks, yes, the best line up is inf phal without buffers, to swap the dn line up to inf phal, if it has only cav and rang, and ur not sure that cav is in front, or u better use lineup rang phal with buffers, for the dn troops don't jump the wall and start to hit u before u drop the wall down.
But while attacking with inf or cav, why should I place them in 2nd or 3rd line?
Also while attacking with inf or cav, everyone in its phalanx, what's the benefit of buffers in this case, as they r behind the attacking line?

[livid canyon]

Personally, I run inf rallies in inf phalanx, cos infantry units take their sweet time walking to the front

I still add buffers anyways. Sometimes just for gags, sometimes to maintain formation

Cav walks faster than inf so it's okay placing cav troops at the back with buffers at the front. The buffers soak up a bit of damage

[long kayak]

I personally use buffers in 3 troop type dns or dns with anti scout.
I hit them in wedges.
It's just a precaution in case the troop type I actually want to attack with - doesnt get full countered, even if I lose, I get a report.

• I don't put much thought into dns, just see what's the hero on the dn like the img and counter it if it's an anti dn

[livid canyon]

Eventually formations doesn't matter when running dns lol

[gray skiff]

In case of attacking with rang, formations and buffers does matter.
But do they matter in the other 2 types?

[iron jasper]

👎

[somber light]

🇧🇷 🇧🇷 🇧🇷 🇧🇷 🇧🇷

[inland oak]

Did we do this e27 right?

[lethal wren]

You sent cav into range 😳

[livid canyon]

Flex

Some wanker sent inf I see

[lethal wren]

Imma say: no. Didn't do it right

[livid canyon]

7 piece champ lead

[lethal wren]

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[shrewd tulip]

Happy new year

[sinful jackal]

Feliz año nuevo

[ember fractal]

Good morning darknest members

[paper linden]

Yes depending on what troop type it is

[patent spoke]

Happy new year

[gray skiff]

Would u explain more, plz

[mellow hull]

What's the question?

[paper linden]

So if it’s cav and inf in the dn and your gonna go full cav it’s nice to have some range buffers in there just in case the dn lineup isn’t infantry phalanx … it gives a bigger moral boost plus you walk back with a report

@gray skiff

[mellow hull]

It always does. If you aren't confident in your stats always send buffers. Whether the troops charge out or not your troops focus on the wall first, ignoring troops, once the wall falls the dn progresses forward in its set phalanx. If you send full range the troops are gonna charge out in an inf phalanx, if it's cav and range only you'd think you got the counter but troops don't engage with each other until the wall is down. So if you're weak, always send buffers. If you trust yourself by sending full range on a 2 type go ahead

Probably could've said that in less words

[paper linden]

Haha better than my explanation ok

Lol *

[ember surge]

is there a way to change the formation of an army when attacking a darknest?

[rustic moat]

Yed. The same button you use to change the formation when attacking a castle.

[ember surge]

i dont know how to do that

[rustic moat]

The button under where you change your leader

[ember surge]

ah ty

found it

[bold tapir]

🎄

[inland oak]

That was the fun part lol

[iron jasper]

Happy new year

[dense kite]

Doubts:

1. While doing darknest talent reset related to attack is essential?
   2.while doing darknest rally gear challenge will affect the atk range?

Kindly powerful ppl clarify my doubts...

[livid canyon]

1. Of course talent is essential to darknest rallies. Well except if you're a thicc ass mf lol

2. I don't understand that question

[rustic moat]

Gear affects darknest rallies as well

[dense kite]

Ok...tnks

But everytime we can't be in attack talents... because we need to concentrate build and research too... at that time hiw to manage rally?

[rustic moat]

Talents don't matter unless you're doing 5&6 darknests

[inland oak]

Dont agree with that xD when your small, all the shit matters. When your 50m might, with 250% blast stats. U will need talents for 5's (if your bh is still small as fck)

[frail gale]

Construction, Research and training should be maxed at all time. 5 to 8 Rally leads should keep the rest of the talents with attacks meanwhile rest of the members of the guild shd have talents on resources production and gathering. Ofcourse war gear is necessary and also activate fury by scouting or reinforcing just before the end of the dn rally.

[dense kite]

Thanks .... noted

[frail gale]

Now for the talents on attack - either choose infantry range or cavalry range - choose your heroes accordingly (and make them gold in the long run) - create gears according to it. Then choose the dns accordingly.

[dense kite]

👍

[livid canyon]

Also, you can swap talents around quite easily. Save talent sets like one for construction and research, one for gathering, and one for each of the blasts.. i.e inf, range and cav. Just swap between them as needed

[cunning eagle]

Best way for nests if your learning

[dense kite]

Omg... it's really hard to remember.... best is 《IRCI》

[mellow hull]

Nah lol, it's hella simple. It gets really complicated in forts and pvp rallies

[cunning eagle]

Lol u can save the pics and look at them after scouting gives u a good idea

[hoary cairn]

Hola

[livid canyon]

Cav in cav phalanx

[shy nexus]

2 troops types into nest? oh god

oh they meant whats in the nest lol

[trim forge]

Definitely dont use those formations

[lethal wren]

Yeah that guy is either trolling, confused, or clueless

[shy nexus]

probably typical clueless person who only does dn

[trim forge]

Never trust a person who spells cav as calvary

[long kayak]

Didn't have to do him so dirty ngl 💀

[livid canyon]

[lethal wren]

Totally called for

[livid canyon]

Most of these formations are wrong bud.

First off, you want your main troop type to be in the back, that's why you send a few buffers to absorb the initial wave of damage from the dn,
So... Cav rally in inf wedge or range phalanx,

inf rally in range wedge or cav phalanx, (inf phalanx sometime, but let's keep it simple),

Range rally in cav wedge or inf phalanx

If the dn has only cav and range troops in it, send pure range rally with no buffers. Doesn't matter what formation since cav charges out while range stays back. However if you're not strong enough to take out the wall in one shot, you can add some siege or use the normal range setup (i.e range with buffers)

If the dn has mixed troops, and you're sending a range rally, make sure to have enough buffers in the rally. If your buffers die before wall goes down, the dn troops will march out in inf phalanx meaning you will get countered

If the dn has two troop types, just send the direct counter... No need to send anything else... Meaning.. range/cav.... Send range
Inf/range... Send inf
Cav/inf..send cav

My fingers hurt

[lone fossil]

hard work comes with pain

[faint mantle]

What should send for this?

[dense kite]

Cavalry max then infantry and then range... all are decending order... set ur lineup based on Cavalry...

[iron jasper]

send infantry

add buffers

[worthy shell]

[potent egret]

thanks 😁

[solid meadow]

Send t5 they'll blow the darknest in few stabs

[open gull]

what would you send here?

[candid island]

find out his frontline

if not id say inf blast cus low chance hes sitring in cav phal

[open gull]

it’s in inf front

[livid canyon]

That's a dn. Could be any front

[shy nexus]

find another dn

or send inf you should win anyways

[open gull]

Got it

[uncut pelican]

Grade/rank do affect their performance

[gusty pike]

Upgrade your battle hall to increase dn coalition size, upgrade your castle/do research/pop an army size boost to increase your own army size

[fluid trout]

Yes,you should collect medals and increase their grade and you should increase rank of hero to upgrade their skills such as atk,defense,matk etc etc...

[open stump]

Also make sure to put heroes with high ranks in your battles. Their rank affect how much troupes they can lead in their squad. a rank 8 heros can lead an additional 10 000 troups. so using 5 rank 8 heroes allow you to use 50 000 soldiers more than if you didn't use any hero at all. (the 50k are included in the max amy size value you see in your castle I'm pretty sure though.)

[iron jasper]

Any clan to join?

[long kayak]

#🚫┊guild-finder-no-chat is where you need to put your profile and tell people you're looking for a guild . People will message you if they want to recruit you.
#🚫┊guild-recruiting-no-chat is where guilds post ads for their guilds ,if you meet their requirements, message the recruiters personally

[iron jasper]

Thank you the Chosen One , you're my chosen one

[long kayak]

[livid canyon]

[pale forge]

guys should I use sage of storms of bombin goblin for cav blast ?

[rustic moat]

I believe bombin goblin is an army attack booster - what you want is 4 heroes that go with your squads, plus an army attack booster.

[pale forge]

but isn

will 50% def boost be better than 20% army atk ?

[rustic moat]

If you use all cav heroes, one of them is going to sit around , not with one of the four squads, and do nothing. Might as well make it an army attack hero

[pale forge]

oh, I did't know that !

thanks man