🦇┊darknests

[cerulean scroll]

Should i usually be sending buffers with cavalry to Infantry/cavalry nests?

[unborn tulip]

Yes

[timid atlas]

Which dns required no buffers?

[lone fossil]

:> you require buffers if your going ranged into a dn

[mighty falcon]

usually it's require a buffer to tank the wall trap, but if you strong enough, no buffer will work

[unborn tulip]

If you're strong enough you don't need buffers on any DN. But there's a difference between easy victory and victory with heavy losses.
And if you're not hitting hard enough, buffers will help you on every DN

[cerulean scroll]

I don't send buffers to ranged/cavalry nests. Better chance to win and face cavalries first with my ranged.

[unborn tulip]

Only if it's got a range front ;) but with the correct buffers and formation you can force the frontline to be cav every time on a range/cav mix. Make them super easy mode

[autumn apex]

I found this out very quickly after that pic got put up

[lone fossil]

Send cav

what’s your cav stat at?

May also need to send siege since the wall is 11m hp

[formal bridge]

[worn oyster]

tsuga

wrong channel

[formal bridge]

I got you dw

[safe sage]

yea im banned there

[worn oyster]

these shitters get double pinged

good job tsuga chan

[safe sage]

[vague brook]

[halcyon citrus]

[iron jasper]

[iron jasper]

[modern hollow]

Hey

I don’t like lords mobile much

How do I leave the server?

[static mango]

Send cav

The dn is inf front line

[modern hollow]

?

[static mango]

Yeah with the right heroes and fams too

[signal flax]

I would agree with that

[north wind]

Mmmh

[shell walrus]

Is it important to have catapults in dn?

[wise tusk]

No

[agile tulip]

Dn ess are useless

Its for Farmers

[worn oyster]

it gives 50% atk

[agile tulip]

And farmers use that 50% for next dn

[earnest violet]

[worn oyster]

or rally leads use that

[earnest violet]

I wasted a 50% ATK boost on an empty castle that was online with anti.. yesterday.

Only 12 left now.

[worn oyster]

or you couldve tested first before using it

[agile tulip]

What was his might?

[earnest violet]

He was in fury scouting some castles.. I thought I shouldn't give him a chance to run.

[agile tulip]

[earnest violet]

Like 150M?

I soloed obviously.

[worn oyster]

just set a tracker

[earnest violet]

Then a guy was gathering unshielded.

He had 27K troops left at turf.. I attacked and he shielded the other second.

[agile tulip]

Ohh you wasted one 50% start dn may be you got another 50%

[worn oyster]

is this related to #🦇┊darknests

[earnest violet]

[worn oyster]

at least flex in the right channels

[agile tulip]

[modest furnace]

[distant patio]

Guys if I'm to run a dn5 with 300% cav stats and 1.2 mill troops can it be successful ofc with t5/T4 on my side

[obtuse talon]

you can win low lv dn5

Ess15~Ess19

[distant patio]

Ok

[ruby osprey]

Because the Russian is here

😎

[cinder kindle]

Nothing special

[earnest violet]

[worn oyster]

i got a fam exp bottle

[cinder kindle]

[worn oyster]

[cinder kindle]

They should all be like that xD. All T5

[iron jasper]

Range or cav?

@worn oyster

[lunar mason]

Range

[iron jasper]

Inf phalanx range attack?@lunar mason

[lunar mason]

sounds good

[iron jasper]

👍

Trying

[earnest violet]

I had higher expectations.

[cinder kindle]

Same. They just seem to be the same as 26/27

[unborn tulip]

They are

Why would they be different?

[worn oyster]

why ask me

[tacit steppe]

Why add a new ess level if the rewards are still shit?

[velvet gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/pug-funny-animals-stairs-one-step-at-a-time-pup-gif-16521383

[static mango]

I'm surprised that y'all surprised seeing the rewards

What else do you expect

[earnest violet]

70% Army ATK boost.

[unborn tulip]

What would you even need that for?

[earnest violet]

Soloing bigger targets.

Like 1.5M troops.

[worn oyster]

or just use 50%

1.5m isnt worth 70

[earnest violet]

Yeah but 70 is better.

[worn oyster]

wasteful

[earnest violet]

One more use.. DN6 if I do one some day.

[earnest violet]

Where else should I use that?

[unborn tulip]

You don't do dn6 already?

[worn oyster]

why would you use it just leave it there

theres others than can lead

[unborn tulip]

Darkest is waste of ATK boost anyway

[worn oyster]

just because you can dont mean you should

[earnest violet]

I remember the last time I used it.. it was a 1.6M troops.. he shielded after 2 hit if I remember correctly.

[worn oyster]

if someone else that hits harder went for it they would be zeroed after 2 or near after 1

[earnest violet]

I know.

[iron jasper]

Anyone knows how to break strong wall quickly? Above 10m.?

[inland oak]

Be stronger

[hollow phoenix]

2 million siege

[worn oyster]

you dont need 2m siege

[unborn hull]

you dont even need 1 siege

just use a 20/50 atk boost if you struggle with wall or do a dn lower level

[static mango]

You don't need atk boost

[unborn hull]

if someone struggles with a wall then they do

[lunar mason]

Wall

[safe sage]

i got a shield popper from e28

[mighty falcon]

send proof

[long bone]

Trolls

[astral flare]

Essence 28 is tough to find

[south tinsel]

[subtle scroll]

What do you send here

[lone fossil]

You could send inf

[mighty falcon]

inf with buffer, ranged wedge

[agile tulip]

Dn rally= timewaste

[mighty falcon]

You're a waste

[agile tulip]

[static mango]

I'll agree with Garukno this time

[agile tulip]

Agree with Garukno or disagree with me

[static mango]

Both

[agile tulip]

[north wind]

[mental quartz]

👍

[worn oyster]

that looks like a lot of troops to take down a dn4

[mental quartz]

They may seem lot for big guys :P

Not for 245% blast

And only t3 in rally

[north wind]

Is that a blast ?

[mental quartz]

Yes

[wise tusk]

How?

[tame flare]

E

[agile tulip]

More than 400%each in mix

[devout tartan]

How much should be our battle hall If we want to defeat a lvl 4 darkness

[static mango]

Just max it

[agile tulip]

Can defeat it with lvl1 battle hall

Depand on stat

[lone fossil]

[hollow phoenix]

I can beat dn4s with my level 19 bh xd

[wind bluff]

Just solo a dn4

[shy nexus]

and

[lone fossil]

[small kraken]

Any tips for taking down DarkNest's Level 6?

[static mango]

Yes, full rally, counters, good fams, good gears, t5/t4

[small kraken]

Composition wise, any particular or preffered way to build the rally?

[hollow phoenix]

Put 2.2m siege then put 100k t5

[young gale]

Lol

[young gale]

Just add buffers and fill rest with what you want, t3 and below only 1 troop, and you want your desired troop to be in the backline

[cedar nova]

are you sure you want to do a dn lvl 5?

you dont even have max scout

can i see his gear?

and what troops are you guys sending?

have any reports on what front the dn is using?

show me report of previous hits

[vestal warren]

Go Inf Inf counters Range LOL

[cedar nova]

sherlock maybe front is fcking them up

if cav front send range

[vestal warren]

They never tried Inf ^^

[cedar nova]

he said they tried three

[vestal warren]

Inf should be first choice

[cedar nova]

front is inf and cav so cav wedge?

no

go inf or range

and fill it up with t4

and put main force at the back

not front

add buffers as well

[ember coral]

So , did u win guys ?

[agile tulip]

Nice Gems

[peak marlin]

Rally full?

[hollow phoenix]

What

[lone fossil]

[worn oyster]

english

[modest furnace]

Try other dn unless it's range front.
Inf dns are pretty tough.

[dire flax]

can we defeat a lv4 dn with no fam but with 1m troops?

and counter heroes?

[lethal wren]

If you do it right

[dire flax]

how to?

[modest furnace]

Gear

With t4

[dire flax]

i have no gear with 77m might

[modest furnace]

Wait......... For another lead

[mellow hull]

Nah lol

[worn oyster]

let someone else lead

[modest furnace]

[mighty falcon]

i once defeat lv4 dn with 300k troops, and low level trickstar

[open stump]

Even with t3 it's possible to beat a sn4 given enough soldier and the right lead. But you wont make miracles if you got no gears to increase your stats. Without the stats to back up your army it's gonna be real difficult. You'll need to find the perfect sn. (and even then it might not be enough).
You better off waiting for another lead like the other said.

[dire flax]

HOW?

[open stump]

well, I'm pretty sure you can find some with only archer in it. So if you go full infantry in one of those you might have a chance (if the wall isn't too big).

[lethal wren]

We kill dn4 with T1 only

[open stump]

the guy have 77m might though, he isn't going full t1 lol

[lethal wren]

But if only 1m troops available maybe need t2

[earnest violet]

Just win with (450K + 1 ) T3 troops.

[lethal wren]

It's just not a sensible question to ask. There's no minimum number of troops or tier of troops. It's all about the stats of the leader

[earnest violet]

Agree.

[open stump]

true

[earnest violet]

Heroes and familiars matter too but yeah.

[open stump]

But given what he told us, no gear, 77 m might. you can kind of see that his stats are probably the minimum

[lethal wren]

More sensible is something like "I have X stats and purple / blue heroes and only 50m might, only T3, and BH is lv23, do you think I can kill dn4?"

[earnest violet]

Right.

[lethal wren]

Even saying your might is pretty irrelevant

[open stump]

right, as it could be might from non military

[earnest violet]

You can have mythic champ gears at 300M might.

[lethal wren]

You can have mythic champ gear with 50m might

[earnest violet]

And that has a useful case in rally traps.

[open stump]

if he was a trap he would probably know enough about the game to know what to do though =p

[lethal wren]

Technically you could have a c16 with almost no research might and just millions of T2 and mythic champ gear

Just saying might is pretty irrelevant

Misleading at best

Like saying your weight. Depends on height, muscle mass, build etc

[open stump]

Technically yes. but's that just edge cases. we going through what he told us. we don't have zero information. just lot's of holes in his statements

[lethal wren]

Still have no way to tell if someone even had gold heroes to send to their darknest, and with those low accounts asking beginner questions, you can't assume that. You can't assume they have any fams (or if they have the right ones), what their gear is like, what research they've got... Big might could be 180m quest might and maxed wall 😂

Okay well the quest might is a bit of a red herring, you'd have to max all research to get 180m quest might, but still.

[open stump]

but he said he haveno gear. You would think he have no gear but fam ?

Sometime assuming is justified lol

[lethal wren]

It's probably also fair to assume they tried the darkest and failed already

But without a report it's hard to give useful advice

[open stump]

true

[lethal wren]

Some people just pick DN based on its might being low and didn't learn about reading the scout report and countering

Maybe don't have formations unlocked etc

[open stump]

indeed

[mellow hull]

Well dude in conclusion you need to find a better lead, maybe recruit him/her into your guild. Because there is no way yall are going to beat a dn4, try dn2 in the meantime

[iron jasper]

[modest furnace]

[tawdry viper]

What else increases the amount of troops you can send?

[worn oyster]

army size boost, heros

[tawdry viper]

K tks

[iron jasper]

I don’t have that able to be researched atm as my academy is not at the lvl to do so

[hollow phoenix]

Nice

[silver valley]

what are the requirements to beat level 4 darknest

[worn oyster]

battle hall

[silver valley]

21

[worn oyster]

i mean you need to have a battle hall

[silver valley]

🤣 isn't it obvious

[worn oyster]

you asked for requirement

i told you what is needed

[silver valley]

No but without battle hall we can not do rallies

[worn oyster]

duh

[silver valley]

I mean rally on bigger darknest

[worn oyster]

dn4 is easy just need one other person to 1 troop

find one that has 2 troop so you can win with 300k

[silver valley]

I dont have t4

[static mango]

Battle hall and trooos

[mellow hull]

Well then it all lies on your gear and fill

Cause most t4 players can solo a dn4

[ember coral]

Hi guys , what single troops I should send ? And what line up

[mellow hull]

I'd go inf, because of no inf traps, but what heros are in the dn?

[worn oyster]

why would you send inf into cav

[mellow hull]

I decide what I send based on traps and heros in the Darknest, 90% of the time it tells you the phal

[modest furnace]

It's aaaaalllllllll random

[mellow hull]

Lmao

[modest furnace]

Well i will send range in inf wedge

[mellow hull]

Yeah lol, range is logical

[ember coral]

These are the heroes

I was thinking of range troops too

[long trout]

Go range

Should be fine unless inf front but enough t4 should do the job

[ember coral]

Done

Thanks everyone

[long trout]

[agile tulip]

Dn4

[wind bluff]

Solo dn4 when

[mighty falcon]

full cav

[subtle scroll]

Do you go full inf ?

[peak marlin]

I believe so not 100% sure tho

[stuck coyote]

Yes!

[mellow hull]

Just go full inf, worst case scenario it's inf vs inf

[sage flame]

Ya

Cool dn ahahahah

[hollow phoenix]

You lost more and still won lol

[delicate mica]

He didn’t lol, the traps that were destroyed count as troops for the dn, resulting in more losses for the dn than the player

That’s why some people don’t keep traps

Bc it’s a small margin that could make u win or lose a defense

[hollow phoenix]

Oh

[thorny harbor]

My stats is 450% can I defeat it...?

Go full inf with buffers..? I need help pls.. My first DN 6 :)

[cosmic bloom]

idk

[mighty falcon]

pretty hard to defeat with that stat, but worth a try
inf with buffer on ranged wedge

[cosmic bloom]

this is true but his fams need to be good too

must have 5fams

[thorny harbor]

Daaarn... I have 4 not maxed hmm.. lemme see.. what happens.. lol

[cosmic bloom]

U can do with 4 but depends on everything

u have

[earnest violet]

You can win with 0 fams too.. just get a 60% T5 rally.

Maybe that would be an overkill.. it really depends.

[thorny harbor]

Thank youuuuuuu won

[mighty falcon]

congrats

now flex the report

[mellow hull]

Do you mind sending the comp?

[sage flame]

Ahahah

Not bad

[sterile sequoia]

[flat comet]

😩 😋 😋 😋

[cosmic bloom]

can we kill lv 4 dn with 300k t3? and t2

[earnest violet]

Yes, possible.

[cosmic bloom]

oh

how

it has 3m troops lol

then how?

3mVS300K lol

[halcyon sage]

just needs higher stats...

[cosmic bloom]

uhh

i don't have

lol

lemme see how much i have

[earnest violet]

Check.

[trim drum]

Finally a channel for me :))

[wary epoch]

[wary epoch]

Welcome :p

[wary epoch]

Without good stats you can't even break wall

[runic valve]

Hello

[untold heath]

true

[wary epoch]

[worn oyster]

can you stop posting that

it has nothing to do with this channel

[opal charm]

Ouch

Fat hit

[flat bluff]

Are you kidding me ...

Too deadly

Almost 20mil my god

[digital portal]

I've seen lvl 6vdn started popping up. They are crazy hard, 4m t5 with 4m might wall. Lvl 27 essence and such.

How are these meant to be beaten?

[flat bluff]

Lol u took 4-5 min for writing this much wow

👍

[lethal iron]

Lots of t5

[oak aurora]

👍

[mellow hull]

Plus t5 fams as well

As well as crazy stats lol, a 1bil might rally lead should suffice

With full t4 filler

[halcyon sage]

get counter maxed and you can run them leaderless lul

[mellow hull]

Lol that I doubt, with full t2 yeah but defs not leaderless, even with max counters

Lol that I doubt, with full t2 yeah but defs not leaderless, even with max counters

[brave briar]

Hi there. Are blind nests with +1 ess? It used to be atleast

Just ran blind lv21 ess, it had 5 fams in there😩

[halcyon sage]

i can run 28 leaderless

[mellow hull]

Ahhhh guess I was underestimating yall. Lol

[random plume]

Well it’s very possible lol

[sinful frost]

Leaderless 28. Yeah sure. You wont win. No stats

[lethal wren]

Who says? I hit an ess 27 last week and forgot to change out of speed gear and I'm not even that strong

[sage wing]

What’s your line Id

Let ppl see u soloing that 1b might

[graceful moss]

[sacred bramble]

@digital portal
You from 5BC Delos?

if yes then me too

[gloomy ridge]

I got the discord event reward

[neon igloo]

I get also reward

[keen raptor]

[neon igloo]

[sacred bramble]

I didn't get

[opaque belfry]

[thin tundra]

not talk in here for this event !!

cek #📢┊server-announcements

go away, talk to #🎮┊in-game-events

[lyric skiff]

How to open first reward

[static mango]

...

[buoyant finch]

Today my first reward unlocked

[hollow phoenix]

This is darknest discussion not discord event reward discussion

[sweet sand]

When am open 1st reward don't clam in lord mobile game but clam only gift

3h 5

[finite karma]

U can't claim it its random

And that has nothing to do with darknest

[hollow phoenix]

This is darknest discussion not discord event reward discussion

[iron jasper]

question, and i think i already have the answer, but still... can't find it anywhere
battle fury, works on dark nests or not

[hollow phoenix]

Yes

[iron jasper]

that's what i thought, thank you

[hollow phoenix]

Np

[radiant pewter]

Hello everyone, so when do we get the rewards

[sage wing]

Does the anti research count versus DN

[hollow phoenix]

This is darknest discussion not discord event reward discussion

[whole pebble]

Wtf is "anti research" ?

[peak marlin]

there is none

[lethal wren]

Do they mean fury research? Or counter research maybe?

[lone fossil]

Anti research I assumed they meant anti scout item

[wind bluff]

Why’s there a need for anti scout research tho

Just show comp

And don’t be a wuss

[mighty falcon]

just quit game, tbh

[iron jasper]

what to send here

[mighty falcon]

full range

[iron jasper]

lol someone say to me Its Full Inf and I Doubt Myself haha

[mighty falcon]

lol, the inf gonna get countered by cav
is best to send full range, that way the cav will come out from wall, and u can counter it

[iron jasper]

Yep that what im trying to say But No response

So i come here

[mighty falcon]

[iron jasper]

Thanks @mighty falcon

[mighty falcon]

[iron jasper]

💯

[obtuse kayak]

Darkness is for farmers

[iron jasper]

Im farmer until someone want to solo me

[zinc yacht]

yeah sure u can beat them then ?

[desert cradle]

Who…I’ll kick em right now lol

[wind bluff]

Solo range ez

[livid canyon]

If you're R4, kick em. If they're R4 or R5, leave that guild asap

[iron jasper]

lmao Oz

he is the one Haha

[unreal mountain]

How do we get the top boxes

[lethal wren]

2 lucky winners chosen at random for each box.

[iron jasper]

Don't kick but teach them

[iron jasper]

Lol Who's Kicking who

[mellow hull]

It's quite the headache lol

But have fun

[cosmic bloom]

lol

[iron jasper]

i'm going crazy with people always doubting, and mailing, me
what is better
single troop counter or put bows with
like, cavalry and bows, the cavalry keeps the infantry and cavalry in nests at bay while bows do extra damage, right ?

[lethal wren]

Nope. Single type blast with small amount of buffers.

It doesn't work that each type just goes and attacks only their counter. Your frontline attacks the enemy frontline. So if it's a nest with inf and cav inside and you decide foolishly to send some range and cav, and you hit an inf frontline, the inf will just destroy your range and you lose, not to mention not sending best stats in blast gear set.
If on that situation you send a cav blast, you have a 50-50 chance to hit inf front and win just by killing the frontline, and even with a cav front you still might brute force kill it. (Even more likely with buffers)

[iron jasper]

so there is no use of tanks ? i use cavalry wedge, those same infantry in your example would be stopped by the cavalry while bows would not get hit and do (extra) damage

[lethal wren]

In my example you'd send a few (like just a dozen or maybe 50) of inf and range with the cav and use inf wedge. Cav wedge in a cav blast is a terrible idea because it puts your main army right in front.
No siege. Unless you're really weak and don't have gold heroes

[iron jasper]

i don't use sieges, alright, i'll try your way for a couple nests, see how that goes
thx for answering 🙂

[mellow hull]

Lol gnome you're so nice, I would've been too lazy to type that. But yeah everything said is correct, always send blasts, only scenario where you send mix is to forts, to defend after you hit. But I'm sure we're not at that stage yet

[lethal wren]

Well we're in the darknest channel so I'm specifically talking about that scenario

Also, I'm not nice, and how dare you suggest such a thing!??!😱

[mellow hull]

[iron jasper]

[iron jasper]

🤣 💯

[spark spire]

[proven spruce]

🔥

[mellow hull]

That's some fill lol

[iron jasper]

Buffer Is Good When its 69

🤣 🤣 🤣

[sage flare]

Closest dn5 you will ever see

[inland valley]

not even close

[spark spire]

[thin hemlock]

How much stats needed for dn5 at least ess20

[hollow phoenix]

1%

[mellow hull]

400% blast with decent t4 fill

[open stump]

it really depend on the dn5 itself. I managed to beat a few dn5 ess20 or 21 once upon a time with less than 400% (and lost a lot more of course). Your stats isn't the only factor. Stats are still one of the most important though

[earnest violet]

I agree.

I had like 350% stats without talents and with full T4-T5 rally.. was able to beat Lv.23 or Lv 24 Ess.

Counter means a lot.

[honest zodiac]

Why are you spamming this in every channel lol

[worthy dragon]

u can beat e26 in speedgear and shitty stats if its the right DN and with Counter... so e20+ should be np. just search 4 the right one

[lethal wren]

I've killed an ess26 in speed gear by accident once. 212% in speed gear 😂 it died though,I got lucky with a perfect frontline counter

[ember coral]

Hello guys

What troops and line up should I go ?

And thanks

[chilly lichen]

[steel ibex]

Mix

[twin sorrel]

Tbh I think familiars are the difference maker with dn5s. Gremlins goblin and trickstar. My attack stats are like 350 but was able to kill a lol 6 dn w lvl10 goblin

Also the familiars they have. Make sure any dn5 doesn't have those 3 famz cuz some will for suee

*surrrrrre

[ember coral]

Good to know , thanks 😊

[ember coral]

It didn’t work , It was on cav phalanx . I tried archers with some cav and it worked

I think mixed equal enemy troops are difficult to hit

[mellow hull]

Nah never send mix to a Darknest or target lol

Each troop type doesn't only attack its counter, that's why phalanxes are a thing. Main goal should be to blast the Frontline

[astral bough]

Go with cavalry it's work both if dn is in cav front or inf front

Dn have rng & cav heroes you can go with Ranged Troops Easily Win Go In Inf Wedge

Just need 400k + troops

[ember coral]

Thanks guys

[steel sparrow]

Need assistance regarding lvl 5 22/25 dns

My inf bosst is 392%/range 387%/cav 385%

Kindly provide the solutions for mixed and higher ess dns

[worn oyster]

you rally it with best and rock paper scissors if lose then reset for 3 type

2 type send what counters one of them and same type as the other

[mellow hull]

Plus fams, they make the difference

[steel sparrow]

Minomi can tou give me some examples pls

[worn oyster]

theres range and cav so you send range with buffers (4 inf 4 cav) with your range in the back

[late girder]

I answered this question in another channel

I’ll try to demonstrate it a little better and more in-depth in this post. These are all my personal opinions from personal experience but they have braved true for me so far

I will provide screenshots to demonstrate

It is my opinion that you should never send a mixed rally to a darknest. Always send a single troop type blast and hope to counter the nests front

When I rally a dark nest I always March in a wedge that places my blast troops in the rear

I add 4 t2 troops of each off troop type to act as a buffer. This creates 8 squads in front of your blast troops that soak the first 8 attacks from the nest at basically no moral loss

So if I’m sending inf blast I March in ranged wedge with 4 t2 ranged and 4 t2 cav

This allows me to break the wall without losing morale

The only time I will change my buffer is when doing a ranged blast on a dn during the ranged blast I will add a larger buffer to insure the buffer does not fall before the wall does.

If buffer dies before wall then the dn will automatically come out of wall in inf phalanx and ruin your day.

I hope this helps

[mellow hull]

Well there you go @steel sparrow

[lyric mirage]

i sense darkness in here

[lethal wren]

Let's destroy this nest of evil

[marble hill]

PM me, if anyone looking for guild.

[static mango]

#🚫┊guild-recruiting-no-chat

[midnight geyser]

[worn oyster]

not even max scout

[mellow hull]

[wet beacon]

Some darkness are just hard for me why

[mellow hull]

You're not strong enough for them

[midnight geyser]

How do you deploy familiars?

[worn oyster]

research in familiar battle tree first

[midnight geyser]

Ok

[sleek saddle]

Sometimes my guild member asks for only calvary troops when rallying

What surprises me is that he only deploys calvary himself

After letting him know that he needs siege to take down the wall, he just laughs

What I can't figure out is how he still wins

[whole pebble]

You dont need seige if you have gold heroes. It still helps for walkback but if you're talking about dns that doesn't matter
Should still send like at least 4 each of the other troop types also tho

If you are backlining your main type

[midnight geyser]

So we have gold hero in attack ...no siege required?

[lethal wren]

For darknests, no siege required. Gold heroes and a few buffers in a spear is all you need

[mellow hull]

The trick is to view the battles, you'll notice a lot

[shrewd totem]

🇵🇭 🇵🇭 🇵🇭

[static mango]

Stop spamming that

[modest furnace]

If you are strong enough, you don't need siege.
And if you are pretty meh, then you need siege to break the wall.

[midnight geyser]

Ok thanks

[indigo quartz]

Seige is useless

[open stump]

Well, I wouldn't say useless. back when we were newbies and even a lvl 2 darknest was a challenge siege helped a bit. Although it was mostly because we had no good stats and we had small battle hall and we couldn't even filled the rally.
With a decent battle hall and enough soldiers you don't reallly need the siege. You only need siege if you can't full the rally and your attack stats is too small to take down the wall quickly

[ember coral]

Well said

[lyric mirage]

[sullen gate]

[stuck lance]

oh how the turns have tabled

[lyric mirage]

[cinder rover]

breaks the wall
the army behind it is double our size
Moral: fukW

[hasty wind]

Sieges are under estimated. Many folks think that it is wrong to send sieges. Yes, you can win darknests without sieges by seer brute force if you have strong atk boosts

[lone fossil]

doubt people underestimate it

many people use siege for castle rallies for its walk back potential

[hasty wind]

But sieges can help when your ATK boosts aren’t strong. Especially because sieges are always at back and can turn morale to your advantage

[hasty wind]

And that is the second good reason

[lone fossil]

thats why its nice to have some siege in your castle in case they do send a sprinkle of siege you will kill it

[hasty wind]

I was responding to this message btw

[indigo quartz]

Ok what i meant is seige is 98% useless

[hasty wind]

Have you tried sending sieges to find the frontline troop of an unscoutable turf?

[lone fossil]

wait what?

[hasty wind]

With sieges and some troop buffers you can easily find out the frontline on an enemy turf with a single solo attack. Pretty useful

[lone fossil]

teach me

[hasty wind]

Sure, I will share the exact comp once the game is out of maintenance mode

But it based of the 60/40 rule

[peak marlin]

Ok next 12 hours then

Floof is going to sleep it past his bedtime

[paper crescent]

Hi

[hasty wind]

But it is based off of the 60/40 rule. 60% of troops should higher tier sieges, like T3/T2. The rest should be inf/cav/range buffers

You will may get an attack report. Regardless you see the maximum number of troop type that died

The frontline will be typically the counter to the troop that died the most

[topaz bough]

How much atk power required for 19+ essence forts / level 5

[peak marlin]

Not only that

Can ur guild fill a full rally with t4-5

[topaz bough]

They fill full t4, no issues. Can send 2.2m t4

[peak marlin]

What abt ur fams

I dont know the exact army atk's but i'd say 150% each

[topaz bough]

3 spots open,

[peak marlin]

200%-250 blast

[topaz bough]

Usually filled with 67% trickstar, 90% army atk (tailwind), stun for 1 second or 6% hero atk boost

Got ranged atk around 220%, 2 good familiars, army atk around 167%,

Still they fail quickly after wall.. wall finishes in 4-5 seconds with 2-5% loss

Any specific research needs?

I didn't do anything on rallies

[peak marlin]

Ur doing something wrong

Yoy can do darknest research

Also need good gears

Heros to proper phal/wedge

[simple tinsel]

Also depends on enemy formation of DN and the formation you’re in

What 5 heroes do you bring with you to the darknest that loses?

[lone fossil]

from 200% to 300% is required i think

[young kettle]

Hi

[simple tinsel]

I haven’t really used the Lord’s Mobile discord too much, but reaching out here with a question that’s pretty advanced hoping someone might know the answer.
When attacking DNs, it’s common knowledge to put strongest troop type at back with buffers in front. But recently it seems like people are putting their strongest troop type in the middle with a wedge formation

Anyone know the possible benefits of doing that?

Example, someone doing range to a dn and doing it in inf wedge formation vs the preferred inf phal or cav wedge

[lone fossil]

i have no clue who is putting there strongest troop type in the middle

[gusty pike]

if I'm not mistaken, if you send a ranged blast in an inf wedge, you will be able to force your troops to retarget onto a different troop type in your opponent's army after clearing 2/4 squads of their frontline, ex: you're hitting someone in an infantry phalanx, sending a ranged blast in inf wedge will allow you to retarget onto their cavalry assuming you're able to clear 2 squads of their infantry at the front. it's beneficial if you're hitting blindly but it's not recommended if you're trying to clear an offline target's frontline imo

[topaz aspen]

full archers?

[mighty falcon]

use buffer

[topaz aspen]

thanks

[mighty falcon]

[static mango]

@garukno#9690 thanks

[mighty falcon]

[proven tulip]

[static mango]

[whole pebble]

Yeah this works but I think it is negated if enemy is in a wedge

[primal hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/droggo-dog-shookt-cute-dog-pom-gif-16055279

[astral pine]

Hey

[ornate skiff]

Range phal… any tips?

[mellow hull]

Send a 442 in inf phal

Ohhh it's a dn?

Try full cav

[sharp gazelle]

🤦

[mellow hull]

Don't laugh at me

[royal prawn]

So do you mean for example: 120k Destroyers + 80k T2 IRC?

[copper cave]

hmm

[inland oak]

Its in ranged wedge, what phal do u use to make sure u can actually hit the cav?

[oblique hornet]

You can go for ranged only so the enemy army will charge at you but you have to fight the Inf after that so a little bit of cavs or just a ton of Dmg boosters needed to overcome the inf so your ranged target cavs

[inland oak]

So im kinda fucked here

[oblique hornet]

Yeah unless you have good Familiars

And gears

[inland oak]

Well, im weak sauce. 430% ranged, lvl 7 trickstar/lvl2 gryphon. But when i go inf wedge (which should counter the ranged wedge. I hit 50% of the ranged(as expected) and then my guys target enemy inf

[oblique hornet]

Better find another DN 6 or try first before finding another DN 6

[hollow phoenix]

Try range in inf wedge

[tight epoch]

Full ranged? Or inf and ranged

[open stump]

Depends, are you able to fill a rally ? if so then full range should work fine. if not, put like 50 inf and the rest in range so the opponent soldiers doesn't get out of the wall while you striking the wall

(if you attack only with range the opponent soldier get out of the wall to attack you but your soldier still focus the wall for some reason)

(but even 1 inf would result on the opponent staying behind the wall)

[mellow hull]

Full range, no buffers. It's best for the cav to charge out

Or if you think you aren't strong enough to break the wall quick enough you can put 4 of each other troop type in an inf phal

[floral thicket]

Inf blast

[iron jasper]

Confused on what to send here

Need help

[rustic moat]

I assume only ranged, since the darknest is mostly ranged and cavalry.

[cloud reef]

yeah, I'd go ranged blast unless I knew formation

[astral bough]

Ranged

[open stump]

Just as a curiosity (I never really checked). say you send full range, and the DN soldiers came out of the wall, who is leading out of the wall? the infantry or the cavalry ? (or is it lineup dependent ?)

[earnest violet]

It changes to inf phalanx.

So if the DN only got cav and ranged inside.. your ranged will hit the cav irrespective of the default formation.

[open stump]

ok thanks

[sturdy kindle]

Cav in front line what should I send there?

[lethal wren]

Just do a different nest

[sturdy kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-baby-frown-cry-tantrums-gif-4649018

[lethal wren]

Well it's an easy kill but I'm guessing your send cav first time and failed hitting cav front. = You're too weak.

[sturdy kindle]

😂😂😂😂😂

[sturdy kindle]

Naah I just want to ask what should I send.

I know cav kills inf

[lethal wren]

I know what I'd send. Cav. And it would die

[sturdy kindle]

Oooh then should send ranged to counter cav front line

[lethal wren]

You asked whatyou should send. My advice is to find another nest.
Ideally one with only 2 types in it

[sturdy kindle]

😂😂😂 haha Ook

[lethal wren]

Sure. If you're strong enough. Unless the inf in there kills you as well

[sturdy kindle]

Hmm I was sending sniper there.

[lethal wren]

What ess is it?

[sturdy kindle]

Ess 16

[lethal wren]

Can you turn off the @ please

[sturdy kindle]

I don't know how to turn off it?

[lethal wren]

https://c.tenor.com/ddg6ge2H_T0AAAAM/discord-reply.gif

[lethal wren]

Wait, you were sending range at that the first time?

And you hit a cav front... And lost?

[sturdy kindle]

Yep

But I cancelled the rally

[lethal wren]

So how do you know the formation?

[sturdy kindle]

By guessing from dn's leader and Heros

😛

[lethal wren]

You do not know

100% guess. The leaders and heroes mean NOTHING do to with frontline

[sturdy kindle]

Naah easy to guess from that
But it is not correct everytime.

[lethal wren]

Stop. Pinging.

[sturdy kindle]

I always send ranged to check formation 😂😂😂

[lethal wren]

Also, it's not correct every time because it's literally random and it's GUESSING. Ignore the leader and heroes because it's random and doesn't mean anything at all. It will NOT tell you the formation

It's equally easy to guess just by guessing without looking at the heroes.

https://c.tenor.com/ZFc20z8DItkAAAAM/facepalm-really.gif

[sturdy kindle]

Haha it is also correct

[lethal wren]

Stop pinging

[sturdy kindle]

😢

Ok

[lethal wren]

Seriously wtf. Turn off the @

[sturdy kindle]

Done

[lethal wren]

It's not correct. Trust me, I know what I'm talking about and you're the noob in here asking questions. The heroes / leader don't indicate the frontline

It just doesn't

[sturdy kindle]

Ooh Ook I am noob 😂😂😂
But I win the rallies by guessing like that.
And it is enough for me

😁

[lethal wren]

If it did, it works work every time, not just sometimes. But it doesn't. Because the heroes and leader are random

[sturdy kindle]

Yep that's why I asked you it doesn't work all time

[lethal wren]

So you might as well stop wasting your time by looking at the heroes and actually guess

[sturdy kindle]

Ook 🙄🙄🙄

[lethal wren]

It doesn't work ever.
To be clear: ITNEVER WORKS.
If you see a correlation between the heroes and the frontline, this is a coincidence

[sturdy kindle]

OK OK OK OK

https://tenor.com/view/sad-baby-frown-cry-tantrums-gif-4649018

[lethal wren]

Trust me, I know. Because it's a fact, not a guess.
So go do your nest and find out what the actual frontline is and then counter it.
Or save time and just scout a few more nests, find one with only 2 types inside. Easier to win

[sturdy kindle]

Ook

And thanks

[inland oak]

Or just get really stronk and get a full rally = win everytime

[hidden grail]

when you send full range and DN soldiers come out of wall, is it true that instead of sending filler troops of 4 calvary and 4 infantry in my range blast, sending 10 calvary and 10 inf would keep them inside the wall? guild mate and I attacked same darknest, they came out and slaughtered me, they did not to him. As far as I can tell that was the only difference

In this, they did not come out

i mean t3/t4 comp was a little different, but in my mind it was roughly the same

[open stump]

my assumption is that your buffer of 4 died on the trap too quickly. but they should have keep the soldier inside while they were alive

[whole pebble]

Soon as the all the inf/cav dies the defenders rush out.
Can be prevented by sending more inf/cav so it lasts longer, having better stats/heroes so wall drops faster, or sending in ranged phalanx so the buffer troops don't die

[hidden grail]

I did notice he used a different phalanx

My thought was to use the inf one so that range was at the back and the buffer in front

So use range so that they are at the front and the buffer is behind them

[whole pebble]

yeah normally inf is good but if you struggle to bring down the wall fast enough, or if a real rally and worried about garrison, then you can use ranged phalanx to be sure there is no form change due to late wall drop

[sand vault]

me bad

[astral pine]

Please click on it

[agile tulip]

[static mango]

[cyan narwhal]

The new DN7 looks good!
Can only see them in our kingdom though. When will they be released in other kingdoms?

[velvet hill]

protectors of the darknests!

[stone loom]

[night osprey]

Track didn't work in the battle , why ?!

[worn oyster]

did you send any ranged troops?

[worn oyster]

then idk

[shy nexus]

all the heroes you have in there are ranged

lords will designate 4 squads at max for a troop type, and you got 4 range heroes already leaving the 5th one without a squad

your troops will get the boost from tracker, but not the squad atk damage

[night osprey]

Any advice ?

[shy nexus]

Well...theres nothing much to change lol

you can use an army hero like rose knight instead of goblin

[night osprey]

I tried rose but i died in the first sec lol but i saw my guild mate is using watcher and all the 5 heros worked in the battle

[unique niche]

Because you sent all range hero’s. Only 4 participate in battle.

[night osprey]

If i send full ranged march with 4 rang heros + watcher or rose , should i send some inf or cav to benfit from 20% army attk or i already will benfit from it when i send it without some buffers ?

[mellow hull]

You need buffers anyways if you're sending a full range march, unless you want the troops to charge out, which in most cases you don't. The army atk will still apply to the range, and since rose is not a range hero her squad atk will also work in battle

[night osprey]

But i will benfit from it's 20% army attk any way , right ?

[mellow hull]

Yes

[sullen goblet]

🍞

[royal prawn]

What should we send to something like this?

It's in inf phal

[earnest violet]

Try inf.. you might win if the stats are good and the rally is full.

[royal prawn]

@earnest violet if that was a castle, what would you send to it (and you had no T5)?

[shy nexus]

it would depend on if the castle is online

but no castle ever has that comp its pretty rare

usually castle will have t4 and/or t5 with t2 buffers. and t3 if the person is an idiot

offline? test its frontline, you can use infirms troops if no anti, or might drop if has anti to guess front

naturally, hit with the troop type that counters

online? if you suspect its baiting, you can test front and then hit with the same troop is what some do. for example: guy baits in cav, expects you to test front of cav and send range. instead, you send cav, worst comes to worse he wants to take in cav and you hit cav on cav ok. but if the guy expects range and swaps to inf, and then your cav hits him, he will take heavy losses

online in fury? or just showing signs of online anyways and want to yolo? tbh id pick best stat and go for it. a popular choice is inf since people are reluctant to take rallies in cav unless they can know for certain you will hit with inf. then you can hit inf on inf, or inf on range, both popular front lines

if you and your mates dont have t5, t4 will work as well. usually fillers without t5 means you are in a quiet kingdom or restricted kingdom anyways and t4 with a strong rally lead will do the job. t3 doesnt do so well in rallies, if you can fill pure t4 that is the best, although not always possible in a new kingdom of course

[bright kayak]

[urban grove]

possible to beat dn5 with 290% stats and 858k bh?

[shy nexus]

uh an ess15 maybe

[urban grove]

how much wall hp would it have to be?

and what sort of comp in the dn?

[shy nexus]

you would need a full counter with rally full of t4 t5 other than your own t3. meaning 2.25mil or more

ive done it, range into cav range with cav front, my t3 + 2mil mixed 300kt5 rest t4 with 50 percent boost

[urban grove]

my bh is only 600k and my march is 258k

[shy nexus]

well you arent gonna do it

[urban grove]

alright

[shy nexus]

upgrade your battle hall and tag along with stronger guild mates for now

dn5 is a goal for many smaller players, best of luck

[urban grove]

can i ask you a question about solo trapping?

[shy nexus]

uh sure

not much experience with that myself though lol ive always been a filler

[urban grove]

so my current comp is 500k each t3 and 2m each t2. im at 210m right now. should i boost to 2.5 each t2 and what % stats would be the max i could take without taking reds?

[shy nexus]

uh it really depends on who is hitting you and your gear

at your might wet noodles wont really solo you, and you would likely burn to a maxed account on counter

[urban grove]

im in 852 which is restricted and only big chinese spenders with mythic champ but only a few. most not full mythic gear.

[shy nexus]

if their familiars are good on counter you might burn, you can definitely cap most players

[urban grove]

max stars is like 50 for anyone

in my kd

[shy nexus]

on taking reds, uh also depends on counter lol

and your gear

2.5 each t2 would definitely help but fatter you get less likely you will get soloed

[urban grove]

yeah i know. not many people with maxed p5 fams.

[shy nexus]

theres probably someone better at explaining this lol i never solo trapped you can watch something on youtube

[urban grove]

alright. thanks though

[peak marlin]

Why are u 210m and thats ur bh u need to upgrade that

U need t4 for if they hit ur t3 ur dead cause of moral

[lone fossil]

me who can do dn5s

[peak marlin]

Me who doesnt care.

[lone fossil]

me who knows you dont care

[peak marlin]

Lol

[lone fossil]

[urban grove]

i don't have academy 25 lol

[lone fossil]

bro get it

[peak marlin]

So upgrade ur bh I had the same bh as you at 5m

[lone fossil]

but your a solo trap dont really need academy 25

[urban grove]

i've just been training troops

also spent gems on tycoon

[lone fossil]

kane are you thinking what i am thinking?

[urban grove]

what is it?

[lone fossil]

you should get t4 makes dn5 easier

[peak marlin]

Yes.

[urban grove]

i'm super far away though

BH 18 and prison 15

[lone fossil]

[peak marlin]

Its been a long road for floof now he is so close to t4

[urban grove]

haven't spent gems on those buildings yet

[peak marlin]

Well thats hot trash

[lone fossil]

only 12 months basically have t4 at the end ofthis month

[peak marlin]

U finna get it before sterben lmfao

[lone fossil]

tell sterben to hurry up

[peak marlin]

Ben saving speeds for push?

[peak marlin]

Hes soending 120$ tmr

[urban grove]

yeah but i don't really care as i am focusing on building my solo trap.

[peak marlin]

Hes gunna buy bott 1-2-3 labes and anything else he can

[peak marlin]

Ya still need prison and altar 25 for altar boost if ur capping ppl after a solo rally party

Take there lead migrate and get altar boost ez

[urban grove]

its something that i will work on but not now.

[royal prawn]

Really appreciate the info you gave here! Thanks bud!

[royal prawn]

I ran a test rally to get br from a DN5... Rally had a little over 1m mixed t4/T5 troops and was in cav wedge. Got no br. Infirms had ranged troops in there after the rally.
Is it possible to figure out what the DN has from this info?

[worn oyster]

no

you prob needed buffers for walkback

[lethal wren]

And don't send mix to a darknest anyway

[worn oyster]

i missed the mixed part

[livid canyon]

[tacit kestrel]

probably didn't get through wall

and towers killed archers

oh wait nm

no report means annihilation

[royal prawn]

It had anti, so we sent mixed to try and get a br...... And failed 😂

[sweet stone]

att everäåone

[rustic moat]

What?

[rustic moat]

You know you can tell the main troop type even if it has anti-scout, right?
Edit: ignore the attachment; it's displayed below.

[royal prawn]

No... How?

[rustic moat]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/_avbcuMTubiglKmf6vHas8ys-KuMhVrLskRLxoYdc1A/https/carbon.pics/N0xgRlTqX

[worn oyster]

why would you have the idea of sending mix

[rustic moat]

By the icon on the darknest

[mellow hull]

Yeah lol, if it's anti scout rather send your strongest troop type, that way if you fail its a guaranteed walkback

[royal prawn]

Worked for us when we did dn4s. Hadn't done it in a while and thought we'd try mix... Clearly didn't go well.

[royal prawn]

Is that always right?

[royal prawn]

Thanks for this.

I'll keep that in mind for next time.

[rustic moat]

Yes it's always right. The catch is you don't know the secondary troop type.

[royal prawn]

Fair. They can't make it too easy. ☺
Appreciate you sharing the info @rustic moat .

[mellow hull]

Be careful not to ping a mod

[floral thicket]

Hi

[signal bramble]

Which phal or wedge?

[lethal wren]

No no, it's most definitely not always right. It's just as random as anything else

How do we get people to stop perpetuating this myth???

[inland oak]

Its the same bs as assuming people that have rose knight as leader are cav front allways....

[inland oak]

Ranged hits go in inf wedge or ranged phalanx (with buffers)

[mellow hull]

[ember coral]

Hi guys

It is in range phalanx

Which single troop to send and what line up ?

[inland oak]

Find a different nest

[lone fossil]

Just hit inf lol

[latent inlet]

Inf blast

[livid canyon]

Personally I'd go range.. but idk how high your stats are.
If inf doesn't work, go with range

[ember coral]

Range didn’t work , the infantry ( second line ) came out the wall and ate my range

The infantry full worked

Thanks

[open stump]

is it though ? Looks to me that his trick is to know witch types of troupes is in majority. Not what lineup the nest is. Not sure if his trick works but it's definitely not the same as guessing the lineup with the leader

[lone fossil]

i just hit and dn and if i lose reset

[inland oak]

U didnt ping, but responded. U a disc pro :D
But it helps to see what boosts the leader of the nest gives, and it kinda is right a lot of times. But it is no guaranteed. If you look at lvl 5s and lower, a nest can have an inf leader, and 0 inf in it

[ember coral]

True

[livid canyon]

Hm. Guess you don't have enough stats to blast it with range

[desert tangle]

Can you get an ess 10 from a dn3?

[lilac ocean]

when ever troops come out of the wall they will always be in inf phal

[livid canyon]

Yes

[livid canyon]

Oh he didn't add buffers? Rip

[rustic dagger]

What do I need to get in place to beat a level three DN?

[rustic moat]

That depends on what troops the darknest has

[rustic dagger]

Ok, please kindly start with the first basics of preparation...

[rustic moat]

Scout a level 3 dsrknest then post the report here so others can help.

[rustic dagger]

Ok I will

Thanks

[paper linden]

Mostly likely an inf phal which would make it near impossible go win it it just because its a messed up dn

[twin sorrel]

Only time you do straight ranged is if the scout report tells you it's only ranged and cav, and then it's only to make sure that cav gets engaged (cav will rush out, ranged will attack wall. Once wall comes down, cavalry will by default be the front line of the darknest)

[twin sorrel]

If you lose but get a report and it shows its in cav formation then run again with light infantry and cavalry buffers

[honest zodiac]

Dns are confusing . I run a 2 troop dn and some guy sends a 1 troop that I didn't ask for telling me that it'll manipulate the dn and make me counter it every time and it works . How the f does it work ? And are there any other Hidden tricks in dns ?

[open stump]

Well, if you go full range then the DN troups get out of the wall to fight your troups while you still are attacking the wall. but if you have another type of troup with yorur range they'll wait for your other type (or the wall) to die first. So depending on the lineup the opponent run it can be smart to let them out of the wall to force them into the frontline (if it's cavalry). but you might want to keep them inside if there is infantry

[twin sorrel]

Think usually buffers are wise to include to absorb the first attack or 2 and save your main squads but I tried to articulate the exception to it, all ranged rally against cab and ranged, in my comments above your question.

[lethal wren]

Why are you running a 2 troop DN?

[livid canyon]

I think he means the dn has two troop types

[warped current]

Please Help me to understand, how to win multiple troops darknest? For example if darknest has 1.5m each t4, how to win it?

Please mention or ping me with an answer so I won't Miss it

[mellow hull]

Most people say look at the leader and traps, but it's all completely random. Send your strongest troop type, then if you lose counter

[warped current]

Okay Thanks

[livid canyon]

You can always try again

[night osprey]

Inf phalanx .. which formation should i use ? Any advise !

[mellow hull]

Send cav, big brain right there

It'll counter the inf then go to cav vs cav. You should win before you reach the range at the end

[signal bramble]

In inf phal which should I go?

[mellow hull]

Cav

You'll clear out the inf then go cav vs cav

Unless you trust your range stats to clear out 100k t5 inf

[earnest violet]

I would say go ranged with inf wedge.

Should start hitting the cav after clearing out half of the inf.

[mellow hull]

Well there you go, a more detailed explanation of my second suggestion

[signal bramble]

Inf wedge with rng worked thx guys

[mellow hull]

[earnest violet]

👍

[latent inlet]

How did I win this

[desert tangle]

was the wall all of the morale

[latent inlet]

I guess??

[open stump]

Ahah, It happens from time to time. My current theory is that igg have a formula to know if you win or lose a battle and that the animation is made after so you have some sort of visual. And I assume that sometime when then make the visual they mess something up but since you were supposed to win it jump to the victory right away.

But we will never know I guess, since igg probably won't ever talk about it

[manic birch]

[steel ibex]

Try full inf

[cinder cypress]

Thanks

[normal brook]

Hi all. Please could you give me some advice on how to tackle this one

[lethal wren]

Send full range with a small number of cav (like 8-12) in cav phalanx. Use your best range gear.

[gleaming wyvern]

Sending without buffer is what I'd do... It'll force the troops out in Inf phal, and if ur range is in Cav phal, u get an easy target after the wall is down

[lethal wren]

Or you do it with the buffers which forces the cav out of the wall before it even comes down and you get an easy frontline and win regardless of what formation it was in originally

This only works in nests that are range/cav combo. But it works incredibly well. It's a rare instance where you don't want the wall down too fast. (Unless you're strong enough to kill it anyway in which case it doesn't matter, but if someone is asking for advice on a dn4 imma assume they aren't strong)

[normal brook]

Thanks for the advice! I'll give it a whirl

[hollow phoenix]

Guys that’s a scam link don’t click

[barren gyro]

Anyone online?

[mellow hull]

I don't know, are we?

[barren gyro]

Can anyone suggest me

[mellow hull]

Send strongest troop type, if you lose reset with the counter

[long atlas]

We only have t3 and some t4

[worn oyster]

Go inf

[long atlas]

Ok

What phalanx?

[worn oyster]

Ig just put inf in back

[long atlas]

Ok ty

[sullen peak]

Heres a question, pls dons laugh at me im a farmer trying to become a fighter.
In DN rallies, do you get the hero boost for the hero you pick even if they don’t enter a battle?
Example if i send a full range rally but send rose knight for the 20% army boost do i still get that even if there are no cav and no rose in the actual fight?

[livid canyon]

army boost
Affects all troop types. So yes you will get the army boost; but won't get the squad attack bonus since there's no cav squad

[fiery laurel]

you will get only those hero boost which u send in actual fight and leader boost if u send leader in actual fight

[livid canyon]

You get rose Knight bonus irrespective of the troop type you send

[blazing coral]

What should i send?

[open stump]

I would have try to go full cavalry hoping the front line is the royal guards

[blazing coral]

K

[thorn pollen]

I would too

[shy nexus]

you should be able to win easily even if you hit cav

[coral fractal]

Yeah it’s only t3

[digital portal]

Cav with 4 cav heros and a range hero with 4-8 range troops. Range phalanx

[magic silo]

Why a range hero?

[open stump]

Only 4 hero out of 5 actually fight if you send 5 . By sending a few troups from another type the 5 heroe fight (not sure how big of diference it's make though)

I don't think that them fighting or not deny you their passive boost

[livid canyon]

Nah.. one hero still won't fight.. your troops are divided into four squads.. one hero per squad. 5th hero should be an army hero.. not necessarily a range hero

[open stump]

really ? one hero never fight even if different troup types ? that's news to me. but fair enough

[livid canyon]

Easy to test.. hit a dead castle and watch the replays.
Or use camps

[open stump]

right, I'll test that

So I tested it. If I send 5 heroes of the same type one stay behind (not moving at all)

if I send 4 heroes of the same type + one of another type they all march toward the enemies

[livid canyon]

With troop type of the 5th hero?

[open stump]

So I do think it matters if one is a different type. it probably doesn't matter much (because I don't know how much dammages a hero actualy do)

[livid canyon]

Yeah since it's just a few buffers, and once the buffers get annihilated, the hero doesn't do anything again

[open stump]

I made a few different tests.
5 cavalry, one stayed behind
4 cavalry + 1 foot soldier, all march

[livid canyon]

Anyways I don't know everything lol

[open stump]

yeah, I don't think it matter much anyway

[livid canyon]

Hm.. range hero might work.. notice if you send range heroes and troops, the heroes attack from a distance? Unlike inf and cav that march up to the wall before attacking

[open stump]

maybe, I don't feel like testing though

[livid canyon]

[whole pebble]

The max 4 heroes is if you are sending a blast. Yes if you send some of another troop type and the matching hero it will fight. But the damage from the squad atk ability is based on the damage that troop type deals, so the more troops you send of that type the more damage it deals. If it's an insignificant amount of troops, the damage from the heroes squad attack ability is also insignificant.

[ionic birch]

If you’re attacking with cav then use 4 cav heroes and a army hero

The buffs from the army hero last even if their squad dies

[simple tinsel]

Got a question on troop type and formation. Is there ever a time when it’s justified to send main troop type at middle of line, or possibly even front of it? I get surprised when I see 1b might members using main troop as frontline, but would rather not embarrass myself by asking them if there’s an easy answer to it…unless they’re just not realizing their mistake

[shy nexus]

confusing question

define "main troop"

[simple tinsel]

Yeah sorry. By main troop, I mean the main type they’re sending to dn. Ex. If a dn has mainly infantry, resulting in person choosing cav as ‘main troop’

[shy nexus]

oh as like what they send i see

well people generally like to go for nest with two troop type

for example dn with only inf and cav

leader will usually send cav, as it counters inf, and cav on cav is good

does that make sense lol

[simple tinsel]

Ah, guess my question a little more complex than that haha. Basically what I mean is, isn’t it typically recommended to choose formation like range Phal or inf wedge so that cav is at back while the infantry and range buffers soak up damage from enemy dn?

Sometimes I’ll see people doing cav phal or cav wedge and not sure if there’s a justified reason to it or not

[shy nexus]

people usually hit with the form that puts their main troop type in the back

theres always one phal and one wedge that will do that for you and i remember theres a reason for using one over the other but dont recall im a filler lol

[simple tinsel]

I think wedges are more tightly together so usually good to do wedges when cav and infantry are at back, to minimize time it takes them to get to enemy. And for range it good to go phalanx with them at back to maximize time it takes enemy to get to them 🙂

I agree with you, it usually good to put main troop type of whatever is being sent at back. So I’m just confused by the people who send it as their frontline

[livid canyon]

Some are just lazy to swap phalanx since it's just a dn. I've seen people run a dn in cav phalanx and then forget to swap back. Rip their troops

Also it's better to send inf rallies in inf phalanx/wedge because inf is super slow. Putting it at the front allows the inf troops to engage the enemy troops faster

[simple tinsel]

I can see how it’d be partly justified if they’re doing infantry in front because they’re super slow and it’d save more time, but in my case I tend to see members going w cav troops and putting them in the front (which are fast either way and therefore I could see no reason why that’d be beneficial)

[fading ruin]

This is true only when the enemy is ranged front which does not move and inf has to approach them, but for other troop type in front, inf rally should avoid inf phal/wedges

[livid canyon]

Well you won't send infa rally at a dude in cav front now would you?

[livid canyon]

Down to personal preference. Plus nobody is perfect

[fading ruin]

yeah if you don't know the front then inf front inf rally is best avoided, unless you think it's ranged front

Actually i send inf to cav front sometimes to get a walk back. on some occasions being countered give you highest rate of walk back.

[livid canyon]

Uh.. test?

[fading ruin]

yep

[fading ruin]

inf and cav also approaches your inf so there's no disadvantage to moving slow. Also inf is slower than cav but not that slow. If cav takes 8-9 sec to reach enemy, inf would be around 10 sec

just a fun fact but the slowest is actually ranged but they can attack from far place so it doesn't really matter

[simple tinsel]

I figure personal preference for most would be the best formation to win a dn lol

[simple tinsel]

Walk back as in losing the dn but still receiving report? Because you could just send range to cav front and not only walk back but also win dn

[simple tinsel]

I wanted to follow up on this. While infantry is slow and I can see how people would put them at front to engage enemy troops faster, they also suffer some morale loss of inf due to wall/traps. You can still put them in back and easily win dn

[mellow hull]

Don't complicate things, we all know how to deal with 2 type dns. If it's 3 type then send your strongest troop type. It's either you win or, worst case scenario, you get a walk back

[fading ruin]

I was arguing back on the inf front inf rally part in general sorry, but for a mixed dn you'll take less damage when you are countered basically.

but your damage to enemy is significantly low so most likely lose. so don't try to get countered in dn

[fading ruin]

also inf rally inf phal is as you say, not really useful in dn because there's a wall

[simple tinsel]

If it’s 3 type, you wanna send the troop that counters the largest troop type in dn :p and worst case scenario is no report

[mellow hull]

I'm talking about dns with similar amounts of all troop types, but ayt we lead in different ways. I can't relate tho, never been capped by a dn unless my fill was nonsense