#🦇┊darknests
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you got raven?
wait for range
tracker, black crow, death archer, and your 2 army heros
cav take out incin for raven

if you got trickster at gold it would be better than the others at blue or green

Trickster at gold is better than purple range atk heroes unless the purple hero has hp also
At least from my own testing
11k hero sucks... what you need is some energy boost to do more dmg
that sounds like a f2p
Depends on the rally captain gears and heros
Oh tnx
Hello Im new here
But no one asked
^
Hi
bye
bye
Your worried frog always kills me man
sounds good

but even if you fill t3 you should win
if you fill t4 you fill clap it
you in talents?
Got the W.. thanks guys
Nope. All range
Both will probably win
Why range
Er... either or, not both at the same time
Send full range, and it pulls out the darknest Cavs and counter the Cavs to win good.
Range because they have no infantry, and will force favorable frontline per azaik
All range 200k siege?
No need for siege if your attack is up to 180% ish
No way for us to know if you need talents or not. Seige not necessary, assuming you use gold range heroes... lower ranked heroes may have difficulty brining down wall
Yip definitely need siege then. Got no gold heros.. It's DN4... Having a hard time winning just one
If it's DN 4, then you definitely need to be in talents
I'll try the all range with some siege see how it goes.. 🙈
You won't take down the wall without gold heroes, and no talents as well :(
Okay I'll switch
Okay so switch talents and going to use all range some siege for the wall.
I also have the same wall issues with DN 4 lol. But if I get full rally I don't bother changing talent....if I don't I change talents.
I've had full rally. My hall at level 24.. +230k for my army so 1.7 mil at best
Siege isn't necessary....full power of range and hero can pull the wall... putting siege would only take more time to bring down the wall during which your troops loose a lot of morale and fail the DN
Yes but I have no gold range heros
Will still work, at least your troops morale is more protected without the siege.
Get OK. Going to try it and see what happens will let u know in an hour thank you
Uwc
Gold heroes make the wall dropping a certainty. You can maybe still bring it down without seige at lower ranks- if you fail just retry no prob.
U won’t win range on range with shit stats cav is too low for doing full range
Just look for a better dn will be easier for u
What should I do to defeat a dn4 which has t3 inf and range and some seigh
inf
send inf blast rally 
Send siege blast
Ew siege
@vital sable How did you do?
Someone got it before I did 😭
😧
I wanna see t5 if you have send me
i have only t4s
Can't translate thier pic
I need thier pic
as if they cant tell you dont play this game kek
Line has a built-in OCR and translator for desktop version. I use it to ask for titles when the overlords don't speak English
To pretend to have it urself or show off
@gleaming wren
99% T3 rally
Oh he ain’t wining
yeah no way lol
Rally size is 1m
Yea not winning 

Defeat? What a shock 😂😂😂😂

Rss wasted lol
What to send to this?
inf
Ok will try
What about this
inf
Ty!
duh
can someone explain when to use 24+24 inf/cav on a nest?
absolutely never
can you explain?
to manipulate something? so the cav runs out or whatever?
I mean full rng with a few inf/cav
o
never heard someone specifically using 24
but
buffers are always used
except if theres no infantry
in the nest

it basically makes the enemy run out in inf phalanx
so if youre hitting with range thats generally shit
but if theres no inf
youre guaranteed hitting cav
p nice
so if theres a nest with cav/rng and you send full rng with buffers, youre guaranteed to hit the cav?
so why does people use these buffers then?
because it tanks a few hits including squad attacks
making you just straight up take less losses
and hit for more
ah
youre guaranteed to hit cav
@zenith mantle if you send... 1 cav.. That will be good...
Obv another fake 2b
@wind bluff lol yea i didnt mean to click 2bil but now it wont go away :/
just click it again?

I've got lvl 25 BH...all t3 in our guild. Think we could kill it with all Infantry or you guys think all cav would work?
try to find a 2 troop type darknest those are easier
if you really wanna try it id say inf
This would be the better option then? Not a whole lot of lvl 4s around us
This would be the better option then? Not a whole lot of lvl 4s around us
Lol yep getting close. Thanks!
i said jk
Lol yep in cav phalanx with some cav gear on and a 20% atk boost up. Thanks again
Do people carpet darknests cuz I do
we did a few times
one person carpeted into a dn3
and carpeted from like 5 minutes to 3 seconds
otherwise we normally carpet dns when we have spare and someone else is about to steal our nest
I carpet dn1s
I only carpet darknests during gf, 12min to 4sec
No. What do you mean?
Lol
according to merriam webster, time-saving is defined as "intended or serving to expedite something" and carpets expedite the troop travel time to a darknest
i know what you mean 


Use Google next time. It will give you something better 
What do you mean?
yea don, explain further please

if dn got 2 types for example inf 90% / rang 10% > phalanx wont work cuz not the 3 types inside , so inf goes in front ? so i should send cav ?
Wtf u talking about
Just send a cav rally on cav phalnx
Unless ur stats are too shit and ur cav can’t eat the range

I don't mean that :)
I'm asking about the default line will be taken as phalanx won't work without the 3 types ( if that info is true ) I'm just giving example :)
I'm looking to understand this stuff better .. not looking for your trolls :)
It will work with just 2
Fp
Ur Talking about a dn with 90% inf 10% range
U can’t assume inf always goes on the front
U don’t know the darknest’s phalnx
U
I don't mean that 🙂
I'm asking about the default line will be taken as phalanx won't work without the 3 types ( if that info is true ) I'm just giving example :)
@floral sun
this ONLY applies for range/cav
It's not because there are just 2 types
It's because infantry and cavalry cannot attack from behind the wall when you send only range. The range sits too far back. SO they have to rush outside the wall to attack and when they do, defenders go to infantry phalanx
just watch some battle reports you'll see what dokke was talking about.
What did we keed for this dn?
I only win 3 troop type dns

Why don’t we just take the darknests and push them off a cliff?

There aren't any cliffs in game
😇
Hello everyone
What's the basics for the dn4 using t3
Or maybe depends on battle hall also because my current battle hall still small around 1mil space
You can win a dn 4 with t3s if it's a one troop type dn
Counter and have decent stat. Not all those <100 nonsense
Ooh ok thanks
How to break wall faster?
Better gear

In infantry phalanx, any suggestions to how to win?
Omg why didn’t I think about that
50mil plus? you aint winning

and if your lead needs to ask then he shouldnt be leading
I just wanted to see sorry
Go range
Fill T5 range
Steal darknests to annoy enemy??
Yeah.
😂
What stats beat which darknests? Like will a 300%beat a level4, or what? (Mix t3 and t4)
not underlying %, just depends on composition and what you're capable to fill with.
however, a 300% rally probably wont be able to kill a lvl 6
would you go full cav?
Yes
I went cav and the DN made fun of me :(
I have 460% in calv. We sent 939k T4 and 1.3M T3
Need t4
That's what I thought, but the guild I am right now, it's a small guild. So, not much T4
Probably find an easier nest then
lvl4 :(
There are easy lvl 5
Like one troop type
Anything with low ess, 15-19 are pretty easy
Yeah go for one or two troop type nests
Well, thank you for the advice!
No problem hope it helps 
Me too!!
I've been playing for 5 months and I'm still learning how to, you know, do a lot of things in the game!
Yeah you’ll probably have to stick to lower lvl 5s til you can fill more t4 
I need these people to get it together and have T4! Like for real 
If you’re 400m+ (don’t know if your role is correct) you should probably consider a bigger guild
Yes, I am 430MM. I mean, I do have the might but not the knowledge. Unless I find a bigger guild willing to teach me and all that, kinda hard
You aren't going to learn staying in a newbie guild. Better to aim higher and pick things up as you go along.
Long long ago I may have 'sped the timer' without knowing what a timer was. definitely did NOT speed dg1s timer on my first rally there.
If I never left my starting guild, I still wouldn't know. Most guilds I've been in are happy to teach their players about the game.
speeding timer
evil...
Shhh that wasnt in dg1 

rannge
cavalry

i would send 2.4m t5 siege
no u should send 2.45m
When rallying a lvl 5 darkness always remember to put on defense talents and to use 70% army attack boost. Fill with full t5 siege and remember to carpet the rally so the darkness gets caught by surprise 👍
Don’t forget your siege gear
Really made my morning laughing.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Also make sure you don’t put your leader in there in case it gets capped
Really made my evening laughing.

if the dn disappears, your leader does forever

if you are good
depending on stats and comp
just be emp and solo with 100k t3 
well the emp can have t3
Can be soloed 
U NEED 2 people
Welll yes, but the second person only has to sent 1 single troop for it to count as a "2 person rally"
This is why I have a single T5 siege
Hi
Any codes ?
Troops

nice
go range first
full range?
lmao alright
Send full int. The infantry will body the cav and you can take the rest
Full range guarantees he will hit inf as defenders will rush out in inf phalanx. Send enough inf/cav to last until the wall falls. Idk if you are able to drop wall instantly and only need 4 each. You could need more if you are lacking gold heroes.
Personally I'd just do cav because if range front even minimal stats can take them out.

Personally I'd just scout a better nest.
?warn @bleak root wrong channel go to guild finder
@bleak root try the #🚫┊guild-finder-no-chat channel.
SGM can lmao 😂 😂 😂
whats sgm
do they win emperor?



All siege?
So you can die after the wall?
if you're weak yes
Don’t ping me
Dont believe burger

I'll hit inf
No
Plz
Just look for a video on YouTube
You’ll get more help there than here
Not if you’re weak as fuck

I wamt to learn DN rallys
When they send rally
Do you have a specific question
U port into the dn
Can’t go wrong when doing a 1 type dn.
Just port inside the dn
Can anyone on plz tell me the immportance of troop formation in dn rally
Bet
I want to learn tricks of Ranged troops
@worn oyster how u lose that
Not including too weak anyways to go through 3+m troops
Wasn’t even me kek
Ryan sit
Was it because weak status?
Port into dn for free was
?
Ess
Stats mean statistics not status
What’s buffer
Dn are easy 
Dis
What is troop biffer...like if ranged you are sending.....you should send 1 inf
Army attack works
Delete button kills all
Don’t ping. And yes I’m 40m f2p noob

@iron jasper so for range
If no buffer
Hey run out which does more damage to your army
They^*
How are we suppose to know who they are talking about if no ping
@rare shuttle
What?
@jade thicket can you plz talk me in private....you can be my teacher
Tf
Range rallies if no buffers the enemy cav and inf will run out first leaving the range inside the wall after your range breaks the wall it will target which ever troop type in the front
@iron jasper am noob lol I can’t even run lvl 4
Maybe just don’t talk to me 
Ok @rare shuttle
Dude
@worn oyster but with buffer the formation no change ?
It’s on thing if you have a reason to ping
Plz
It does
But just doing it to annoy me
@iron jasper when u send extra troop of a type
Is dumb
Everyone ping queen 
But if there is only cav range in the dn don’t send buffers

Why?
If you’re not as strong and hit range on range you might lose
They don’t run out?
Reason is so you know who I’m talking to. And I’m too lazy to just type out your name without a @
Why
Everyone ping Randomz instead 
Hitting range on cav better than range on range
What’s so hard to understand?
Like you said counters
Yea but doesn’t cav still run out
Range counters cav
Without buffer?
send like a inf ??
So your range targets the cav


That dn had Familiars right?
With cav running out u still have to take wall
Yea
Wall broken =range on range?
You got heros for a reason
Without cav running out?
No
Reason for the loss I think. One type dn 4s are a win for sure if Coolguy finds one
If wall breaks the formations don’t change and you have a chance of range being the frontline
But if cav or anything runs out formation does change
@worn oyster ?
@iron jasper .. plz teach me
Stop fucking pinging me can you wait
If there is no buffers cav or inf comes out and your troops target that first
@worn oyster you are my tecaher
No
I know but does formation of army change
Piss off
Like the fuck
Ofc it changes
Why do I get bullied when I say not to ping 
Oh
@rare shuttle
I just scout and put all the common sense things like gear and talents and army attack boost on mini guy
@worn oyster be my teacher plz ...i am noob i want to know what is troop buffer
@rare shuttle I
What 
@iron jasper
Fk you 

Fuck off
I’m blocking all of them
This is spam right?
Spaming
No
Yea time to block
I am sorry
@iron jasper google your best friend
Not caring about the pings, but don’t repeat “plz plz” 14 times
But it’s very easy to understand
Ok
It’s all formation troops and stats
@iron jasper troop buffer is when u send one troop to prevent for@storm change
Way more
Formation^*
@worn oyster can you plz share link....i am noob
Bro what the fuck
We can tell
U don’t know YouTube
I am noob
I’m starting to doubt he’s 50m+
Yes
I dont know
Think of it as it stops formation change when u send range
And gives your army more time to take down wall
...?
Range needs a buff for sure. Send 4 Inf and 4 cav and put range at back
Ok
Or 8 inf cav
U can send buff with other too?
But it only prevents less main army lose right?
Ok
As for example if range did 20% per a hit and u sent range + 1 troop inf buff
It would give range more time to take down wall
Which prevents less loose for range?
Ye
Works for all but range monster
Mostly
It impacts little for inf and cav but for rAnge has higher impact
Can change the outcome for full range rally
The troops will go out of wall if just pure range, range being killed while still attacking wall. If wall is huge and dn is not easy, that’ll hurt
What if i am sending 99% inf. ... What other 1% should contain.
I’m not the one to ask, I got under 25m kills
@iron jasper u shouldn’t if u can tank the little damage
Also it goes with formation
So for example if u send 99% inf with inf phalanx
U don’t dent buff
we still talking about level 4 nest?
Any
I had dn5 in mind with range buffers
@jade thicket what other 1% should contain if 99 % inf
Sent
I cant understand ...what to if i want to go full inf or cav
@jade thicket i want to know that smaall imapcts
so if u send with buffer in the front
it will tank some of the damage
thats all
like put inf in the back and cav in front
or cav in the back inf in front
buffer always in front
Ok
I understood range one
But i want to know what to do
In inf
And cav
Im detail plz
Suppose you are in game right now
And you want to send full cav march
What will you send
All formation exact
Out of 250k
inf phalax or what ever phalax inf in in front
u send like a few inf
let them die
while cav are able to negate some damage since inf is taking the damage
cool
repent and I will forgive you noob
What’s up Guru? You moving up quick in the guild already lol

Sending 5 heroes of same type ( infantry/range/cavalry) in rally is good or sending 4 of 1 type and 1 of another type?
It doesn't matter unless there is a difference in stats.
By the way, I won this by mistake.

So sending all 5 of same type is ok.
Good
Yes.
How do you guess the front line of a DN with just the heroes?
typically if you know the comp you send what counters the most troops
if its anti you check the hero of the nest and send what counters that troop type
for dn heros check on hephbot
Thanks got it.
Lmfao


My beautiful picture :(
Does the lvl of the essence matter or just the color? Rewards wise is what I mean
Higher Level has higher chance of better drops... But let's be honest, ess 19 is almost always a random relo
ok thanks i was just wondering because i have been looking and multiple sources say the lvl doesnt matter the color does so i figured id ask here
Observational bias is real
Is it? Or do you only think that because you observe it?
A lvl 23 essence can give 15k food🙄🙄
After 3 times of failing by a few thousand losses, I decided to give myself my alts leader, execute it, revive it and hold onto it, and give the nest one last go. It's such a small thing, but I'm happy I finally beat it, haha.

300% siege atk
171% siege ATK... Where you get 300 from?
dokkeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Join dn
@shut stirrup how did you get cap by dn1?
It means you were defeated by a darknest level 1
i sent my leader to a dn1 and i lost, then the dn disappeared
now my leader is gone forever:pepoSad:

Darknest heroes guide ?
Lol
Darknest heroes are a bit irrelevant anyway. So random
How many troops I need to win level 3 darknest?
What should be my battle hall level to win level 3 darknest
dn3s id say 700-800k t3s should be enough
unless its a purple ess dn, then 1m+ probably
i can win with like 250k t2
good stats
Imagine winning DN3 with 1 troop 
Not possible even if you're emperor
Running a dn5 with range and inf in it. mainly destroy it with inf at this point. wedge ord phalanx ? why wedge or why phalanax?
What's the range to inf ratio? And your stats? And the dn level? Did it have familiars? Are you getting t4 full?
Depends on the formation of the nest
I have a dark discussion....who's joe? 😳
In darknest artillery is good against cab right
Yes
Ok thanks
Running an e23 Lv.5 DN having full T4 Archers with 2.9375m troos in total...
I send 1.4m T4 infantry with Weevil(Lv10), Gryphon(Lv.5)familiar... Infantry stat=385% excluding Army Atk
Could I win that DN?
What should I send against 1M infrantary and 300k arrows ??
Send inf
Cav
Go cav
Inf will rush forward while range stays behind
If ur inf stats are shit inf v inf u lose
Depends on the formation as well.
Nah with my cav stats even in range phalnx it’s an easy win
Do you think that the Bargain Store is the Mystery Event?
Why are you asking in the dn channel 
I know, we will know in 20-25 minutes.
Because someone was alive here.

who trying tell them the coord are showing
Not me
oh crap

welp ima go to guild finder in advance
Is this possible with 1.8m troops t3 only?.
And how much siege and range should I use?
You send all range with a 100ish of cav and inf in range phalanx
You can send siege if you want but personally I find it just takes space pointlessly
why range phal??
whats the point of buffers then
all cav send buffers and inf phal
If buffers die the cav will charge out.. range diff than cav and inf
Wall hp is approximately 300k
take down the wall before buffers die?
So I send all range ? And some calv?
Just a couple of seconds but it helps
Not necessary for small dns but I'm used to sending that
Can you give numbers?
buffers stop the cav from running out
and after the wall gets taken down your cav/inf will take some of the damage before your range does
Here
1m range
500k calv
300k inf
why you have so much t3 
Do you mind if I showed this to rally capt
Go ahead
Ok really appreciate the help thanks guys
Sure thing
Im not in that area or guild anymore
when i asked
@mikelion#3702 it didn't work
I sent 0 siege so I can grab them out but the ranged kept aiming for wall instead of the troops till wall fell and the fight start with 60%morale and 900k ranged vs 2m calv
@limber trout
ofc its not going to target troops before wall falls
need more buffer
or siege
and buffer
what formation
why would you do that

if you send range put them in the back so it takes more time for the enemy troop to travel and attack your troops
I am rookie in phalanx stuff
sending range in range form is basically suicide 
use inf phal
Ok
what color are your heros
should be good enough to break wall fast
All heros were range buff
Yeah wall went fast when the calv jumped on us
But wasn't fast enough 
this is why you put range in the back
Ok
so the buffers absorb the damage
Btw how many buffer do I place for every 100k
Oh ok
@halcyon citrus that actually work lol?
Huh idk
Since you're here do you actually lead dns or just watch a vid of someone attacking turfs
i lead dns?
bet @runic ingot

5?
Buffers die cav charges out
What? You're saying put the buffers first
if the buffers are there the cav wont charge out
after the wall goes down they come out regardless
If they die before before wall is down they charge out
😐
If its 100% cav you don't need to drop buffers in order to secure a favorable formation. Either way you hit cav so may as well buy a little time to avoid the initial hero squad attacks
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
People sometimes send range blasts with range frontline to avoid gari tricks on castle rallies but obviously that's not the concern here.
If you cant break the wall fast enough idk what to say. You still have to drop the wall before range will target cav so putting ranged up front isn't going to help you.
So changing formation isn't going to help him
Range in back vs front doesnt really come into play here....
Yes range in back is better
Buys more time
If he can't drop the wall how is it supposed to help to make his range die faster?
Whats your logic?
Buffers will die on the wall sooner == cav charges out sooner
He needs to keep em in as long as he can
No range in dn so no need to worry about them getting up on the wall
Okay so cav charges out and this is what happens
- Range continues to attack Wall
- Cavalry can now attack the ranged troops
- Range takes damage and deals none so dies faster
- Defeat
The range does not retarget to Cavalry just because they rushed out
They will attack the wall until its down
Ok and if they were in the back
Then you have more time to drop the wall before taking damage
Im trying to be polite but being told the same thing 5 different ways and not accepting it just tells me you are in denial so

Show me a video proving otherwise if you really want. Obviously I dont need help winning dns so Idgaf
I love blocking idiots though
@limber trout the question is have you ran rallies before or do you just watch videos?

Alright hold on
Tell me if inf and cav were first they wouldn't have died and cav charged out before range finished the wall
I'm done now.. say whatever you want
Of course
what point are you trying to prove by posting that?
that cav wont charge out because your inf is still alive?
No.. they didn't die cz they were in back and didn't reach the wall

Get better stats and problem solved 
the same result wouldve happened if you broke down the wall if you put range in the back
all the dns i run wall goes down before my buffers die
Well I can't take down 8mil walls in a sec so I need buffers to stay alive as long as possible
I'm not talking that one 👆
like randomz said get better stats
Would solve a lot of problems lol
I hope y'all got my point tho
For the lil guy this is better

No buffers died and calv jumped on the range and range kept hitting wall and when they finished the morale was 60 and the calv banged the range
Buffers died before they reach wall btw it was 1k calv 1k infantry
The full cav formation is easy. Send 1m shooters and 500k siege. Easy win
Snipers suck at walls so yes use siege on dn for sure.
And for dn under 4, you have plenty space for them in general
Lol, he is doing dn 3. So no gold heroes yet I assume
I can't beat the dn 3 i think something is wrong my guild member get dn 3 with 500k t3 to 2m
I go 700k t3 to 1m can't get 🙄
Stats
Imagine needing 2m
I hate dns running and joining
I get them with T2s.

Can't break wall





