🦇┊darknests

[amber topaz]

<@&917948198297944104>

[iron jasper]

hmm?

[candid jolt]

[iron jasper]

ah cashapp

[amber topaz]

[shy nexus]

cashapp deez nuts

[willow fossil]

Guys which army to use?

Doing with infantry

[lethal wren]

Yes infantry. If you're weak / struggling to kill that send buffers: like 20-100 of each range and cav with your full inf, and use range wedge.

If you still can't beat it, you're just too weak. Make sure you have talents, inf blast gear as much as you have, use an attack boost. If you can safely do it go into fury. If after all that you still can't win... Just wait till you're stronger. Get someone else to run it

[willow fossil]

XD ok but i can do it :)

[lethal wren]

Ngl my food hyper can kill that

[willow fossil]

XD lol

[meager current]

[livid canyon]

Sexy nest. Hit it with inf just for gags. Cav front

[cursive spruce]

You migrated

[livid canyon]

I did say I was migrating.
Why else would I drop anti lol

[amber topaz]

[final musk]

Hi helpful people here. I am trying to win my first darkness 5. Can anyone tell me why did I engage the infantry first when they are in cavs phalanx? How can I improve from here? Thank you!

[cursive spruce]

Watch the battle you will understand

[final musk]

I am still new starting a rally. I just see the troops fall.. and seems that I got countered.

[cursive spruce]

If you watch closely at the start of the battle there should be written "Defenders are charging out", so because you sent a rally with only range troops and the wall is not down yet the defenders then rush out and changes formation

To avoid that you can use a formation that put your range at the back e.g Infrantry Phalanx or Cavalry Wedge and send "buffers"

so buffers is basically troops that you put in front of your troops

you can send 10 infantry & 10 cavalry and while theses troops get killed your range should have destroyed the wall

If your troops are not strong enough you might want to send some siege to destroy the wall faster

[final musk]

Thank you Moulman! I will try it out next time

[mental vector]

easy win

[iron jasper]

What’s your range blast?

Soz for the ping if you’re iffy about that

[plush phoenix]

@iron jasper 480-490%

[iron jasper]

You must be stacked on jewels

[plush phoenix]

Haha no ,some purple atk,all purple jade and some blue atk

Can do 540% with full purple

[marsh quarry]

Idhar kya hota hai bro

Idhar emoji use karne ka 850/month wtf

[cursive spruce]

Yes, speak english maybe we will understand

[amber topaz]

he is asking what happens here

and then he said we need to pay 850 INR for emojis..wtf

[cursive spruce]

[iron jasper]

how i can win dn 5??? which gears??

i have pact 3 familiars

[lethal wren]

I can teach you, but it's much easier if you have some scout reports from specific darknests

Step 1: scout a lot of nests so you have a lot of reports to choose from and you can start with the easiest ones. DN5 that have only 2 troop types in them (like just range and cav troops, no inf at all) are the easiest. If you find one that has only 1 type, that's super duper easy, just send the counter troops.

Step 2. Once you found a scout report that looks easy enough, send a blast that will be the least likely to get countered (say if it's a nest with inf and cav, send cav blast because there's no range in it to counter you), add a few buffers (say a few dozen of the other types), use blast gear if you have it, and have everyone fill only that troop type. Use a formation that puts your main blast at the back (so for a cav blast use inf wedge). Add familiars that match your troops or whatever you've got.

Don't even bother with mix nests, or if you can't find a good 1 or 2 type nest, pick a mix nest that has almost none of one type and hope it doesn't counter you.

But if you post some screenshots of darknest scout reports we can give specific about what to send in each situation so you learn better

[iron jasper]

okk brother i will send

[gaunt beacon]

Brother

[lethal wren]

Guess they were talking to someone else

[amber topaz]

[meager current]

https://tenor.com/view/hulk-hogan-brother-gif-20427662

[amber topaz]

[lethal wren]

https://c.tenor.com/9vphD0mXAOoAAAAM/oh-brother-eye-roll.gif

[odd scaffold]

[languid rover]

👍

[next vortex]

Do you have the board of Hero Darknest ? Old and new ? Please

[lethal wren]

Why? It's totally pointless

[cursive spruce]

People still believing this

[amber topaz]

[odd scaffold]

It's not, for anti 28 the hero matches largest squad

[lethal wren]

Not always

[odd scaffold]

99,9% yes, i actually couldn't remember DN where this won't apply

[lethal wren]

I've found OMG SO MANY IT'S INSANE where it's not accurate

[odd scaffold]

? Largest squad not line

[lethal wren]

Not even close to 99%

Not even 90%

[odd scaffold]

Also I said DN 28

[lethal wren]

I also read where you said that

[plush phoenix]

28 ess dn usually mix

[odd scaffold]

Yet you replied with DN 27?

[plush phoenix]

Avatar doesn't help at all

[lethal wren]

I didn't

[odd scaffold]

My bad, sorry it wasn't you

[lethal wren]

The hero does often correlate with the largest squad. however not reliably enough that I bother to look it up, since it doesn't tell the frontline anyway.

[plush phoenix]

Frontline no but largest squad usually help to predict when anti except mixed 28 ess

[lethal wren]

Help to predict. Sometimes. Not always.

And for sure not 99.99%

[cursive spruce]

it just doesn't work, stop spreading non sense, sometimes it works because it is RANDOM.

[odd scaffold]

Interesting, doing around 3 dn28 a day for guild and always match it with hero table and in like all cases a remember largest squad DO match with type of hero.

Not line tho..

[lethal wren]

You only do 3 a day??

Dang is your guild on some crazy schedule?

[odd scaffold]

Why? What's crazy about having everyone opportunity to have full pots?

[lethal wren]

The last time someone came in ranting on this theory I was like, ok I'll give it another try. Scouted up an ess 28, looked up the hero... Was an inf hero with mostly cav inside and range front. So I gave up

[lethal wren]

Everyone has an opportunity for full pots because we do more like 20 a day.

[plush phoenix]

it almost doesn't work on 28

28 this is a separate story, it is often mixed

[odd scaffold]

I'm not ranting I give you honest experience from someone who don't do any other DN than 28.

If you think you know better, I have no reason to change your opinion however that doesn't change my experience either

[lethal wren]

If you do so many and know them so well, then please supply the info on the new heroes

[odd scaffold]

via beep boop @meager current

[lethal wren]

But still, whole guild getting full pots on 3dn per day??? You can only have 30 participants max, so your numbers don't add up

[cursive spruce]

[odd scaffold]

I'm personally doing 3 DN a day

[lethal wren]

I'm personally doing probably 10, and I'm just one of several people who all do several

Bottom line: if you have done 1000 ess28 and only one of them had a comp that didn't match the hero, I'll believe it's 99.99%

But you and I both know that you get a few fails here and there because it isn't always accurate

And then the frontline comes into play

Heck during GF it's way more than that

[odd scaffold]

And you somehow assumed I'm only one doing DN i my guild? What's even point of this. I stated my experience and gave amount of experience and you are assuming something what's absolutely irrelevant.

[lethal wren]

You said 99.99%

[odd scaffold]

Yes, from experience it's 99,9%

[cursive spruce]

Inf hero, cav wedge, biggest squad is cav

[lethal wren]

Unless you did over 1000 runs you simply can NOT know it's 99.99%

[odd scaffold]

Is that 28?

[cursive spruce]

Yes

[odd scaffold]

0,1%

[cursive spruce]

[lethal wren]

Please go back to middle school and learn math

[cursive spruce]

I'm done

[lethal wren]

Bets dry duck doesn't admit it or remember any of the times it wasn't in accordance with the hero. Just forgotten as "oopsie" or won anyway because of the formation and didn't look closely at the reports 😂🙄

Also doesn't have a large enough sample size to state 0,1% but says it anyway because doesn't have a basic grasp of statistics

[lethal wren]

This is the only one posted today... Therefore it's 100% proof using the entire sample size that the heroes don't match

[odd scaffold]

I have no problem admit it's not 100% but majority of cases it is. And it's by far best tool how to approach anti DNs because it simply works(in most cases).

[meager current]

You know, you can have disagreements without insulting people. Seems a bit hypocritical your statement

[cursive spruce]

Yes a bit too far

[lethal wren]

It's not a difference of opinion, it's a difference of basic math. If someone says something is 99.99% and then two people post examples refutingc the premise and they respond "that's the 0.1%" then they truly do need to go back to study middle school math

[livid canyon]

Personally I just use my strongest lineup for anti DNS...
I don't have time to start looking for hero charts or memorize it just to run a dn..

Some people do depend on the dn hero before setting their rally, and that's their choice. The chart is in hephbot discord for em to use.
Personally I see it as a waste of time but if people like using it, then to each his own

Worst outcome, hero doesn't match troop comp and you get capped by a dn. Meh

[odd scaffold]

99,9% was more a synonym for "majority of cases" same as that 0,1% was, but noted I will refrain from percentages unless I have saved screens from last 1000 DNs (just don't know how is 1000 statistically relevant sample).

And actually 1 example is exactly 0.1% out of 1000

[meager current]

Don't insult. Thought helper mods learnt this before joining up. Disagree, fine, don't insult because you're getting annoyed. If it bothers you that much move on

[candid jolt]

Because all too often, it doesn't match

[indigo swallow]

What troop type should go there and what lineup? Thanks.

Infantry with ranged phalanx?

[odd scaffold]

Those are only reports of 28s I have in mail. 5 of 6 are match. (Yes 99,9% was inaccurate no need to remind me.) It's still majority.

[livid canyon]

Try infantry in range wedge first. You should win as long as it isn't cav front

If it's cav front, just reset range

[indigo swallow]

They was in cav front, now if i'm going with ranged should put Infantry wedge?

[livid canyon]

Cav wedge.. use like 1000 each inf and cav as buffers

Should be an easy win if you have no problems taking the wall down

[iron jasper]

Sending a range blast at this, buffers n cav wedge. If in inf wedge I just reset with cav yeah?

[hollow phoenix]

If it’s in inf wedge then you get a better lead to do it with range and you prob won’t win with cav (unless very good stats) if it is in inf wedge

[livid canyon]

Yeah if you can't beat it with range, then you most likely can't beat it with inf either

[meager current]

<@&917948198297944104> he's done this in multiple channels

[candid jolt]

?warn @iron jasper recruiting is in #🚫┊guild-recruiting-no-chat only

[sick garden]

swan#0520 has been warned. || recruiting is in #🚫┊guild-recruiting-no-chat only

[topaz moss]

Wanna try first dn6 ever this a good one?

[cursive spruce]

Yes ez

[topaz moss]

First dn6

The dn was in range front ez win

[tidal totem]

Hello everyone :)

I have a question
What is difference between phalanx and wedge?

[spiral moss]

26 ,27, 28 ess

[dull timber]

buffers manipulate the wall interaction (if you sent a ranged blast at a castle, with no buffers, the defenders will charge out and automatically swap to infantry phalanx, which counters your rally)...you can use this to your advantage against darknests that only have cavalry and ranged, sending pure ranged means they will swap to infantry phalanx (with no infantry), so your ranged can shred through their cavalry

what does this mean?

does it mean that darkness rally switch to infantry phalanx if i send something that counter it?

[simple tinsel]

In the case of sending full range, yes, it’ll swap to inf phalanx which is preferable when going up against a dn with only range and cav inside (since you’d technically be hitting cav frontline). If sent pure inf or pure cav on a dn, its formation would not change to something that counters you. It would remain whatever it originally was. Personally idk why the trick only works with range

[livid canyon]

Well it's because range troops attack from a distance... Range

Cav and inf troops charge at the wall and knock it down, enemy cav and inf stay behind the wall and engage the Invaders once the wall is down.

But in a range blast, the range troops don't March at the wall and instead they attack from a distance. So the enemy inf and cav have to March out of the wall to engage your range troops. Once that happens, the dn formation automatically changes to inf phalanx.

Even if there is only one infantry troop in the range blast, the enemy cav and inf will stay behind the wall until that one inf is dead... If the wall is still standing at that point, then the enemy troops will still March out of the wall

[simple tinsel]

Yeah true I have noticed that sometimes there’ll be an accidental inf get thrown into the dn when someone asks for pure range (been a while, since we focus on dn6’s usually), and the defenders will still charge out after the infantry troop is dead if the wall is still not down. Ty for the in-depth explanation; figured it had something to do with attacking from a distance but didn’t know exactly why

[fast sundial]

Help me ....... What frontline should I keep and how much buffer?

[simple tinsel]

Can I see report of what was in darknest?

[fast sundial]

Here it is

[simple tinsel]

I would try inf wedge for that. In terms of buffers, people will generally send anywhere from 4 to 3000 of each other troop type (excluding siege)

[fast sundial]

Okay thanks i will keep it in mind

[simple tinsel]

No problem 🙂 let me know how it goes

If still not winning, may need better atk and hp stats

[livid canyon]

Range in cav wedge

[twilit sparrow]

I sent range in inf wedge and the darknest is sitting in cav wedge. Why did my range hit the inf?

And the defenders didn’t come charging out

Fyi

[velvet ingot]

send range but in inf phal with 16 inf and cav each it's so the phal will stay the same in the darkness but you need to kill the wall before the wall before the 32 troops die so if you need to send in more buffers you can

[zinc halo]

If you show the report it would be more understandable

[livid canyon]

Send report

[graceful coyote]

If you would watch the battle, you can see your buffer troops(inf & cav) dying before the wall is down.. In such case, the dn troops walk out of the wall & the formation changes to Infantry phalanx.
The same case if you hit with full range(no buffers)

[twilit sparrow]

My buffers didn’t die

Still in cav wedge when i broke the wall

[dense sentinel]

Just redo the dn with rnge/cav wedge, also your number of troops (battle hall) is comparatively low

[twilit sparrow]

They didn’t fill

But my question is why did my range hit the inf and i got countered even tho the cav was the front line?

Is this a feature?

[dense sentinel]

In Inf wedge range troops position is sideways, in cav wedge inf troop position is side ways, so its natural that your range will hit inf

[dense sentinel]

@twilit sparrow

Hope it helps

[twilit sparrow]

Is this true for real rallies?

[ashen sandal]

yes, battles are the same for DN and real rallies for how the formation hits

[livid canyon]

Yeah you used wrong formation. Send range rallies in cav wedge

[spare stirrup]

Need a formation

[lethal wren]

Send range blast with buffers in cav wedge.

[lone monolith]

For ranged dn6 rallies infantry wedge formation works awesome👍

I usually go with 4k t2 infantry and cavalry as buffer along with ranged

Just won one nest. Ranged just 460%, infantry wedge makes it easy. Won couple of ess28 nests too

Dn has cavalry frontline, so made easy for ess28😁. Ranged Dn6 difficult only if infantry is frontline, need more ranged atk% to win them

[drowsy goblet]

Is it possible to win dn6 with 527% infra blast, 507% range blast and 509% cav blast... But only t4 in rally.

[lone monolith]

Yeah definitely with ranged. Infantry nests mostly difficult as nests mostly will have Infantry frontline. No idea on cav nests

[drowsy goblet]

Yeah

[lone monolith]

I do couple of dn6 daily with ranged. My ranged is just 460%. Couple of times with just full t4

[drowsy goblet]

Ok let me try..

[lone monolith]

For ranged nests infantry wedge formation works well 👍

[drowsy goblet]

I post whatever results it is

[lone monolith]

Good luck👍

[drowsy goblet]

With 507% range blast

[lone monolith]

Try to go for nests which has less infantry and ranged troops

This one is my yesterday rally

[indigo swallow]

Here should go with ranged or cavs?

[cursive spruce]

You should go cav

[indigo swallow]

Here will work with cavs too? He s inf front

[lone monolith]

Yeah cavalry works

[indigo swallow]

Ty

[royal fog]

How would i go about tackling this its my 1st try at dn6

I was thinking full cavs in cav phalanx, with buffer of 4000 t2

[crisp rune]

Ooooh out of my league bruv but gd luck on that 6! Let us know how u do

[simple tinsel]

That’s really not a good first dn6 for you to try lol

Mixed darknests (similar amounts of each troop type) are usually hardest to beat

Personally if you were to go cav, I’d do infantry wedge…if you go cav phalanx, it sorta defeats the point of your buffers

[lone monolith]

It's a infantry hero Darknest ,so can try with cavalry, but we never know what will be the frontline there. And this is mixed troop nest too, very difficult as others said. I avoid these, tries to go for nests which has more troops of single troop type and just a few amounts of remaining two troops type. They're kinda easy👍

[meager current]

I'd personally send your strongest just to get formation. Them dns suck

[toxic ice]

I got this pics from my old guilds,about leader of dns but not sure about frontline of an dns

[livid canyon]

That's not accurate 100% of the time

[toxic ice]

yep

only 20% I guess

[lone monolith]

This one updated. It's useful most of the times while doing anti nests, not always though. Frontline can be any troop type

[livid canyon]

[meager current]

so.... darknest hero's = front line discussion

[elfin flame]

Your guild bro ?

@meager current

[meager current]

Just search my name

[hushed hamlet]

😱😱😱

[elfin flame]

I will find so many gunhall

[vestal axle]

Assume the biggest one is who you looking for and it will likely work

[weak cobalt]

@weak cobalt my Instagram

[meager current]

There's only me

[safe sage]

chef

[plucky ibex]

[proven turtle]

💵👍🇨🇳

[iron jasper]

hello I have a question.
When I attacked the nest with horses and the wall fell, I had 1% morale left for the defenders and before the horses finished I won the attack. Someone will explain it?

[iron jasper]

[crisp talon]

you probably broke all the traps

If you break lots of traps while taking almost forever in destroying the wall,, the defender's morale just plummets badly

[iron jasper]

you see the report

[crisp talon]

Yeahh lol

[iron jasper]

but I think so too

[crisp talon]

Morale and the wall are two things that work weird at times

wall hp has nothing to do with morale, but traps do,, so if you break enough traps, you lower their morale greatly

[iron jasper]

that is, as long as the wall is beaten long enough, a small army can win if the wall is knocked down

[tribal cedar]

darknest heroes

[winged crane]

[tough nymph]

What's best f2p range heroes for dn?

[crisp talon]

Snow queen, Tracker, Black crow, Death archer, Bombin goblin

[zenith peak]

Can anyone help me to know that why infantry didn't target range after clearing out the inf in dn.. As it was in inf wedge..

After clearing inf the next frontline should be rng

[livid canyon]

Try inf phal

[zenith peak]

Okay

[zenith peak]

Still didn't hit range

[livid canyon]

Hmm.. just go for another dn.. thats an annoying one.

[zenith peak]

[livid canyon]

I suppose you need p5 fams to hit the range.
Range stays at the back so all igg wants you to clear all the extra troops first lol. Weird nest

[vestal axle]

or have enough stats to break through front

[zinc halo]

For all heavy range dn 6s unless front is ranged, don't matter what else, you will have to hit both inf and cav to reach the ranged

Inf blast needed dn 6 are the only ones you should stay away from unless you got pact 5 fams, maybe really high stats too or just hope front is in your favour

[soft flint]

Just lost a dn5 by 1%

Im weak inside

[shy nexus]

[crisp talon]

Just won my first dn5 yay

[potent chasm]

Hii

[echo nest]

Is anyone know what i can use for clean that inf

Because i use Full inf on it but due to inf i lose

[warped oar]

@echo nest is there fams on that?

[potent loom]

Just wedge with inf

[lethal wren]

You could try a cav blast if it's inf front, but with that much cav in it you'd prob lose anyway. If you can't beat it with inf blast, then move on to another nest. In most cases it's faster to just scout more and run easy nests than bashing away trying to beat one nest you found adjacent to your Castle

[echo nest]

I win that dn bro i use 1.9 million inf and 100k cav with inf wegde and i won

I kill they inf but 0 casualty among range

[lethal wren]

When you said "full on inf" I naturally assumed you put buffers and a sensible formation. But you actually meant nothing but inf? Dude. You need to be asking much more beginner questions

[iron jasper]

not everyone is as good as you at the game

[lethal wren]

Which is why I admitted my mistake for assuming.

But not everyone is as good as you at being passive aggressive

[iron jasper]

i meant it as a joke i wasn't calling you out...

[lethal wren]

i also meant it as a joke i wasn't calling you out...

[silent torrent]

Are there any good guides for what formations to use on darknests based on troop type? I've seen that you want a formation that puts your main troop type in the back, but unsure how accurate or which type to use if that's true. (I also might just need a general what formation to use guide)

[iron jasper]

i usually put my main troop in the middle. so if i have cav i'll go inf phal. only for inf i choose to still go inf phal

[zinc halo]

there's a "How Formations Work" guide on official fb page. Might need to scroll a bit to find it

[livid canyon]

Doubt even igg knows exactly how formations work lmao

[livid canyon]

Have you checked the guides yet? If you haven't, go through them. Then lemme know if you have any questions

#📖┊community-guides

There's a dn guide there

[silent torrent]

Yea I just went through the guide, but I am still not clear about what formations to use. It shows what counters a particular formation but that's only helpful after a loss. I also understand it's not an easy answer since there are a lot of factors.

[indigo beacon]

it's so nuanced. If your main troop is infantry and you put them in the back they will take forever to make it to the wall

[iron jasper]

that's why for inf its best to put it up front

but for the other two puting it in the second or third line is better

[swift willow]

1292890321

[valid knoll]

what is this?

[livid canyon]

It's just for you to get a basic understanding. But sometimes you need to hit a nest twice to figure out exactly what to hit it with.
But for formations, generally, if you send inf rally, use infantry phalanx or range wedge
For range rallies, cav wedge or inf phalanx is used
For cav rallies, inf wedge or range phalanx

[iron jasper]

Yo this darknest lvl 5 just have only 0 power

👌

[pearl wadi]

At what attack stats are you guys doing level 5 Darknest?

I mean comfortable doing level 5 Darknest. Like I might not win but more if I change my approach I’ll definitely win

[livid canyon]

300-350 stats are enough to beat easy dn5s.. just find one with two troop type and no fams and ez win

[pearl wadi]

Copy

[lethal wren]

You can mostly win lower level dn5 with 200-250%

But more time scouting to find the easy nests makes a big difference

The range on dn5 is too great. Need to specify "low dn5" or ess19+ with fams

[livid canyon]

[pallid osprey]

what will happen if attacking darknest without having any informary..
so my troops in dn gonna die or something new will happen

[amber topaz]

some of your troops will die

[graceful coyote]

Well, 1% of total troops lost in dn (wounded + reds) goes to infirmary. So,if you don't have infirms,that 1% will die.

[pallid osprey]

hmm l guesses soo l will have a look myself and try

[iron jasper]

wouldn't sanc save them

[vestal axle]

love anti dns

[iron jasper]

oh wow your strong i would've lost that

[vestal axle]

I wasn't in cav talents for it either lol

[iron jasper]

i sit in like training/mixed talents if im not fighting a player i just hit dns in those

[vestal axle]

same

[tribal cedar]

@helphbot

darknest heroes

[valid knoll]

[lethal wren]

Not very helphul

[iron jasper]

Dn in Ranged wedge, how do I go about this?

[zinc halo]

Full range with buffers in Cav wedge form

[strange forum]

How should I Rally this?

[tawdry spruce]

Send 80% range 20% cavs

@strange forum

[strange forum]

@tawdry spruce Range Phalanx, right?

[tawdry spruce]

Yes

@strange forum

[strange forum]

Alright Thanks Man

[livid canyon]

U be 9ja player?

[faint anchor]

Are you one?

[bright cedar]

#🦇┊darknests

[valid knoll]

that is this channel, you are correct

[livid canyon]

Who wan know

[faint anchor]

Me

[livid canyon]

Oya dm na.

[jagged elbow]

Can anyone help me to know that why infantry didn't target range after clearing out the inf in dn.. As it was in inf wedge..

[golden gull]

Cav woulda marched ahead.

In mix type of comps where you can't hit successively, Range is either the frontline or the backline. They don't make middle-line since they stop at certain point in the battle and don't march forward.

[surreal girder]

Please anyone telling me how get war tomes in f2p players I'd please telling me it's needed

[lethal wren]

Guild fest rewards, adventure log rewards, and buying them with gems. You can trade resources with people who have gifting unlocked to get war Tomes

[livid canyon]

Bonus gifts from purchases give some too

[drowsy kernel]

Vergeway.

[wraith pasture]

Vergeway ????

[split violet]

My best d6

With 443% rng attack

[golden radish]

😫😫

[wraith pasture]

I did DN 7 in my dreams 😜

[sterile dirge]

Go to dreams again and say sorry to you

[flat fossil]

How much stat for dn 6 minimums

[coarse steppe]

350 with full counter research and gold heroes

[naive sail]

dead chat

[split violet]

I went in cav wedge, and darkness got rng wedge, how i can defeat that?

[livid canyon]

How are your stats? And fams?

Also need more T5

[strong gull]

do 1 type dn6 exist?

[split violet]

448 atk rng

• full counter research

[livid canyon]

Kinda low for that nest since it ain't cav front

[livid canyon]

Nope

[naive sail]

oof

[iron jasper]

Oof

[crisp talon]

is there a way to know the front of a nest without hitting or is it always random?

[golden gull]

Random

[indigo beacon]

there is a list of what nest heroes are which troop type, if you want to look at who the leader of the nest is, you can use that to get a better guess than just randomly choosing

[livid canyon]

[copper dagger]

How much stat for dn 4 minimums

[indigo beacon]

It depends so much on how much of a fill you get with what troops, and how smart you are about picking your target

[simple tinsel]

That list isn’t really for determining what the front of the dn is gonna be, it’s for determining the biggest troop type that’s gonna be in the dn (which still seems to be inconclusive if it’s actually accurate or not). Personally when I see anti DNs, I’ll look at the guide and more often than not it seems to work for me

(If you were using that to respond to PKHR’s thing about asking how to determine front of dn)

[lament wren]

Can anyone tell me if I go inf,cav phlx or cav wedge in dn... which formation is better?

[cloud reef]

depends on what troops the dn has and what formation it's in

[waxen delta]

Hello

[simple tinsel]

If you’re bringing inf into a dn, inf phal best formation to use

But if you only wanna know between cav phal and cav wedge, cav phal better option bc higher chance of walk back

[split violet]

D6 in inf phalanx, should i do it in inf wedge?

[simple tinsel]

What formation did you try it in the first time? Yeah inf wedge should have better success rate

[lime whale]

What is buffers?
Buffers need dn rally?

[simple tinsel]

Buffers are small amounts of troops used to absorb enemy hits at start of darknest or PvP rally before main troop type gets hit

Yeah they’re needed for dns if you wanna have the best chance of success

For example: if wanna send cav at a dn, put it in inf wedge and put anywhere from 4 - 5000 t2 or t4 inf and range in it as well

[lime whale]

Thank you

[karmic skiff]

Is there a reward / drop overview what you can get from which essence somehow?
And is there an answer to the old question: is the level or only the grade of the essence relevant for its drop chances

[zinc halo]

Level don't affect it

Tbh it may or may not as I've only received a 24h speed up research from a lvl 28 ess but rest rewards are same

[iron jasper]

Hello this with? Please thanks

[pearl canopy]

Full cav according to me

[indigo beacon]

I would start with an inf rally and if that doesn't work, you have to think about whether you want to try a race condition with cav

[iron jasper]

Full inf?

[indigo beacon]

full inf

[iron jasper]

Ok i try thanks

[indigo beacon]

for the first shot at any 2-type DN, use the troop type whose counter is not there, it will give you the best % chance of success

you may still lose if you end up against an infantry front line, but you might have lost in that case with cavalry if the ranged does too much damage to you

[raw root]

Lol es27 with anti defeated by 1.2m army

[dull wadi]

!help

.help

[hexed crystal]

?help

Crazy stuff

!help

[valid knoll]

what are you trying to achieve here?

[native siren]

Any lists or pictures of current darknest familiars

Idk who the new one is that I'm seeing

Darknest heroes***

[native siren]

@hephbot

[vernal quartz]

#🦇┊darknests 😎

[iron jasper]

Hello can u help me?

No familiars

[vapid quartz]

Range blast in inf phal should do the trick. Send 1000 of rng and cav with it

4 would be enough of each troop type to break the wall if i remember correctly. But i always send 1000 each

[iron jasper]

So start with cav?

[vapid quartz]

If you hit hard enough into the cav, wich you probably will with a decent range blast+ full t4 rally the moral % of the DN will drop. So you dont "start" by taking out a certain troop type in a DN

[iron jasper]

Ok thanks

[vapid quartz]

Always try to find darknests with 2 troop types. And send the counter of the biggest troop type in the dn. Send 1000 each of the other 2 troop types with it to break the wall

[iron jasper]

Thank u i try

[vapid quartz]

Trial and error. Worked for me too, goodluck :p

[simple tinsel]

Cav all the way 😁

[idle mortar]

Spend money lol

[noble zenith]

Any suggestions? Go all ranged without sending 1k inf and 1k cav?

[knotty silo]

Send full range with no buffer

[meager current]

<@&917948198297944104> in every channel

[frank canyon]

What would y’all attack this with?

[simple tinsel]

Typically good to avoid mixed darknests. They're the hardest ones to do. I'd suggest sending your strongest blast, and if you lose, look at dn's frontline and send whatever counters it for best chance at winning

[iron jasper]

is there a trick to hit the range in ( inf range mixed dn) cuz the inf on inf is a bit hard to win against

[indigo beacon]

Just have to hope and pray the front line is ranged

[simple tinsel]

Yeah as robotstove said, not really possible unless you can take out the dns frontline really fast and retarget to the range before the remaining cav/inf (whatever was not at the front) advance past the range

[deep wind]

Send cav rally if there is a fair amount of inf
If not much inf add maby 50-100k cav in ur Rally and walk cav phalanx with the rest of ur rally being inf

[tired raven]

Quest Lure Dark army - i was shelter all of my troops and hero. but at the time of attacking wall no one is in the wall. dark army easily attack my wall. what can i do to protect my wall? Anybody help with me?

[simple tinsel]

Ummm….you don’t win by sheltering troops and hero. That’s how you lose

[slender urchin]

Cav dn without philosophy

[frank canyon]

Can someone please tell me how I lost this -.-

Lost by 5%

[vestal axle]

no cav buffers , the random t2

[golden gull]

May be need a bit more T5s.

[frigid crypt]

[simple tinsel]

Dn was cav phalanx it looks? What formation did you go in?

[copper lagoon]

Is there any screenshot to show all darknest hero types? I see some are missing from the list, (noceros/goblin) etc

[copper lagoon]

Doesn’t open for me

[frigid crypt]

[copper lagoon]

Looking for clarification on darknest, let’s say a darknest has all 3, inf, ranged and cavalry, if I only send range to that darknest, the phanlax is automatically changed to “inf plhanlax”..does this mean the inf will charge out and counter my range?

[meager current]

Yea, that's why you place buffers with rng in back. I normally do 1500 cav & 1500 inf. For me it's enough to break wall and stop the enemy marching out resulting in the formation change

[copper lagoon]

Cool thanks, I knew that if it had no inf, then the cav charge out and that goes in your favor, thanks

[tawny surge]

But We lost. can I know why? (DN5)

[vestal axle]

You're too weak to win with half a rally

[tawny surge]

Are there other reasons?

[vestal axle]

You could've forgot to send lead that would be a good reason

Filling the rally will likely fix all your issues

[tawny surge]

Sent lead.

[vestal axle]

Than you are just very weak

And need to fill DNs to win them

[green socket]

Share a pic of your gears @tawny surge

[tawny surge]

Only rare🙄

[green socket]

Isliya na

Photo dikhao to bhi

[tawny surge]

Send cav?

[green socket]

Yess

[green socket]

Depends on front tho

[nimble vale]

I made a gazette post for a darknest we lost

[placid flare]

[sharp vigil]

Frontline and maybe your stats... change formation and add buffer.... check your hp

[lethal wren]

Additionally you didn't use buffers. Try putting a few range and cav in with your inf blast. Try range wedge for that (or inf phal if you didn't unlock wedges yet).

[storm elm]

No buffers needed. Range wedge. Definitely full rally would help. Gear might be the big issue there

[elfin kestrel]

Because you was in infantry phalanx and they were in calvary next time try range phalanx

[grave scaffold]

Opinions. Think mostly Cav, but rather hear others opinions

[indigo beacon]

I would send pure inf at it and hope for the best

[grave scaffold]

Cheers

[placid flare]

Inf with buffers lol

[cold mauve]

Should I do full inf march?

[paper shuttle]

Yes

[cold mauve]

Ok thanks

[surreal girder]

How do essence 19+

Cav

[peak herald]

Got a question on a DN6.....I just won my first 2...e27 they were both heavy cav nests. One was in ranged phal the other ranged wedge. I had 20 k buffers inf and cav and I was in inf phal so my ranged was in the back. ....My question is why did my ranged target Thier Ranged instead of troops closer to them? It did it on both of them. It ended up being a ranged on ranged battle both times.....any thoughts?

[merry needle]

In able for that to work you must have a smaller buffer so the cav/inf rushes out from the wall and then the range will target whoever is in front after the wall is broken

[zenith peak]

It's how battle works.. They target first the formation in it is .. like both dns were in range front.. that's why they target range first .. After killing range squads they will switch targets

If the dns were in cav front.. they should target cav first

[teal whale]

What kind of attack?

[placid flare]

I suggest you not to rally mix dns
Find dns with 2 type of troops
I.e inf/range, range/cav, cav/inf
So you can send the counters and win easily if you have good enough stats

[placid flare]

I would send cavalry and hope it's in infantry phalanx or wedge atleast

[teal whale]

Thanks I will try

[split violet]

What front line should i use?

Dn got inf phalanx

I had inf wedge

[golden gull]

Inf wedge be best. May be ya need more stats or T5.

Essentially what your troops need do is hit one squad of Inf (i.e. killing 50% of Inf) and then retarget to Cavs. Idk why it didn't do it despite sending in Inf wedge.

[split violet]

but why my rng killed all inf in dn? I don't understand

Sometimes dn's are f***ed up :/

[golden gull]

Yes they didn't retarget.

[golden gull]

This is what is ideal for low Inf front nests but sometimes they kill 75% Inf or even 100%.

[split violet]

But i had worst d6 earlier

I had cav wedge, dn had cav wedge too

[halcyon valley]

DN HELPS? LMFAO

uninstall the game if u cant run dn lol

[simple tinsel]

Yeah normally if dn is inf phalanx and you were inf wedge, your range squads should’ve both focused on a single inf squad and then retarget to cav. My guess is you killed off the inf too fast before the cav marched ahead of the infantry…so the rng squads retargeted to the other inf squads first

[placid flare]

Not everyone have enough stats to get through dns
they'll grow in near future

[halcyon valley]

[split yacht]

Now t6 needed for dn6

When will it be introduced in igg

[lethal wren]

T4 is plenty sufficient for Dn6. Heck, we killed Dn6 with T2. Sadly haven't managed higher than dn5 with T1 only. So noodle

[strong gull]

Can anyone explain why a rally leader send 50 range and 50 cav troops and the rest infantry? For what are these low amount of range and cav troops needed?

[indigo beacon]

Likely to be used as buffers. The way the battle mechanics work, when the enemies attacks it hits the closest troops, and one attack can’t split between two squads

So those 50 troops can take a lot of damage that would have gone to the infantry if they are in the front

[sinful ermine]

Which troops should i send and which frontline

[simple tinsel]

Infantry seems like best choice in inf phalanx. If you lose, look at enemy’s frontline and send counter of what beats them

[indigo beacon]

try to find a two or one troop-type DN

[prime beacon]

From t4 and 400% attack which ess you can get with 300k t4?

[zenith peak]

E16 if you full counter it

If you're talking about a full rally then you can even win a dn6

Does anyone know or have the rewards list of essence.. like e18 and 21 sometimes give me 50% atk boost.. but dn6 doesn't drop that I guess. I got army size boost from e27/28

I just want to know the best ess level to get 50% atk boost

[halcyon valley]

450% in blast 3 fam slots u can win dn6

[prime beacon]

I have that stats and ive maxed counter research also
3 slots and altar and prison boost also

[strong gull]

If I send full range to a darknest with cav/range what formation is the best to use?

[simple tinsel]

I don’t think form really matters if sending pure range with no buffers. Could be wrong, but different in results will probably be minimal. Maybe inf phal or cav wedge

If sending buffers, inf wedge usually the best option. But if only range and cav in dn, yeah no buffers is key 👌

[floral plover]

How many percentage of attack can win dn5?

[indigo beacon]

there are wide differences in difficulty in DN5s, and it depends on what tier of troops is filling your rally, among other things

[floral plover]

Fully t4 and half t5's

[next schooner]

how can we defeat this dn 6? lol

[golden gull]

Cav blast it.

[placid estuary]

😂

[sand drift]

Should I send only range troops? What to send for Destroyers or fire tebuchet?

[golden gull]

Nothing. You can send Pure Ranged or even Range with buffers. Both works.

[sand drift]

Ok! Thanks

[golden gull]

It's not actually 41M. The decimal (",") used is a different than million.

[south summit]

Sharp)

[floral plover]

What to use here? Which phalanx?

[spice haven]

Go cav with a bit inf

[floral plover]

Bit mean, how many

[placid flare]

Why don't you guys find a 2 troop type dn
It will be easier to win lol

[simple tinsel]

Anywhere from 4-500 t2 inf, 4-500 t2 range, and the rest cav. Try in inf wedge and let me know how that works

[floral plover]

Ok

[simple tinsel]

If that doesn’t work, try infantry with 4-500 t2 rng, 4-500 t2 cav, and go in infantry phalanx

[nimble pivot]

Y not put cav at front?

[simple tinsel]

Because then they targeted at beginning of battle by enemy troops/heroes and their squad attacks. Putting them at back allows buffers in front to get hit by enemies first

[nimble pivot]

[floral plover]

Thank You, It worked

[pearl moss]

[modest moss]

Tell me

@pearl moss

@spice haven

[pearl moss]

@modest moss what?

Oh I shall use full cav.

[modest moss]

@pearl moss

[simple tinsel]

Probably infantry…if lose and it’s inf front, try cav

[hazy citrus]

Do I need to send heroes to support the buffer

[golden gull]

No

[severe venture]

Is inf blast with inf front ok ?

[fiery oxide]

run full range inf phalanx. with only range attacking the dn is forced into inf phalanx, so once wall comes down on dn the cav will run out be your range on their cav

[exotic yarrow]

If I am the rally lead on a darknest lv 5 can someone else speed up the attack? I had more than 1 minute left and then it just hit and I didn't get to switch my gear. Obviously I lost because I was in speed gear.

[iron jasper]

Anyone in your guild can speed up the rally by using carpets.

[whole fractal]

Inf blast failed cav wedge formation any ideas

[formal garnet]

Dude.. what is their formation
And what familiars

[formal garnet]

Chek that and tell me

[whole fractal]

Like I said it was a cav wedge

[formal garnet]

Then attack with range wadge
And do 30% range and 70% inf
I think it should work

Maybe add some siege into it cause you don't want the range will take too long to brake it

[quaint whale]

Infantry. Please help

[mighty abyss]

Second dn6 win ever. This time no fury or altar/prisoner boost. Cav blast 496%

[split violet]

why does im killing all cav
dn got cav phalanx
i got inf phalanx

[golden gull]

Try Range Wedge.

[split violet]

i tried first time, and the second was with inf phalanx (thats screen shot)

[fringe lichen]

How much troops with phalanx?

[dense stone]

Go with Ranged 1.5m troops is enough to beat this one

[fringe lichen]

Full range?

[dense stone]

Yes Try add 1 Infantry in Infantry Wedge

[iron jasper]

dn is cav phal. you will hit cav amd ranged first. so yes, ranged phal, 1k inf/1k cav and full ranged should be enough to demoralize. depending on your ranged stats and familiars

[digital portal]

Infantry, Infantry phalanx

[valid knoll]

what is this for? it will be deleted now

[strong totem]

Can you figure out the frontline of a darknest by its deployed heros? If it is so, how do i see. I dont get any information about what these heros are

[modest gyro]

I was thinking cav phal formation with cavs and catapults but want some opinions

Can only hold 680k troops

[ivory valve]

For such darknest rally with 250k cav troops and 50k range troops with cav phalanx

[reef verge]

Most people would cavalry blast this. The standard set up for a cavalry blast is to send full cavalry troops with a small number (e.g., 4-100) each infantry and ranged in ranged phalanx. Heroes should be the 4 highest color cavalry heroes that have the best stats for cavalry and a (usually army) hero that has the best stats as the fifth. Familiars, if applicable, should have army talents that help cavalry. The core accessible blast familiars are the pact 3 familiars Gryphon (timed army ATK boost after troop loss), Goblin (cav ATK boost that stacks on troop loss). Against an infantry wedge dark nest defense, using inf wedge may be more effective than ranged phalanx.

If the frontline is cavalry and blasting doesn't work but your cavalry take, say 200k damage, you may try sending about 250k cavalry, 4 infantry troops (important!), and the rest ranged with 4 ranged heroes and rose knight in ranged phalanx. Cavalry will be the frontline, which is desired, because of retargeting mechanics with a non-zero wall target.

[wide steeple]

Got two defeat in a row with full range always land on range in place of cav ಥ⁠╭⁠╮⁠ಥ

[hardy basin]

Did you try range no buffers @wide steeple

[wide steeple]

No i used 10 inf and cav as buff @hardy basin

[hardy basin]

Try doing it without buffers. Only range

[mighty abyss]

Yes, pure range will draw out cav

[wintry finch]

How many atk do I need to take on a level 6 darknest with only t4 troop no t5 at all

[frigid crypt]

450% blast will be enough to defeat easy dn 6s but other factors matter too

[wintry finch]

😦 I only have 430% ish

I thought I was ready 😪 what kind of leader am I if I don't have enough atk % to take down a darknest level 6

[plush wyvern]

You also need research, good gear and gold jewels.

[cursive trail]

just because your account is not ready to lead a dn6 does not equate into you not being a good guild leader. that my friend entails much more data than just being a dn rally lead

[wintry finch]

[zenith vine]

What should I send to win against this, Formation is Cav Wedge

[wintry finch]

Wrong channel

[autumn vector]

How much attack would I need to take on a dn6?

[mighty abyss]

@autumn vector I have done a cav one with 458%, out of talents, no fury, no t5’s. Just need lots of inf in it and good formation

[crisp talon]

400% with maxed counters research did it for me on a full t4 march, did a ranged rally on a cav nest

[naive sail]

what happens if you have no infirmary and you get injured troops in darknest? do they die as well

[wintry finch]

Yes you have to have atleast 1 infirmary

[naive sail]

[wintry finch]

I found out the hard way

[naive sail]

[split violet]

First time did ess28

[iron jasper]

O polak

[reef verge]

When you attack a Darknest, 1% of your wounded/dead troops go to the infirmary with priority given to the lowest tier troops, and the rest are saved (so if you lost 100k, you get 1k wounded). If you don't have beds for the 1% wounded, they die; however sanctuary saves 80% of them (20% to providence, 60% to resurrection).

[wintry finch]

You still lose troop

[reef verge]

Yes, what I do when my beds are full or I have no infirmaries is send 297k t4 and 3k t1. Then all t4 are unharmed, and with sanctuary, I lose at most 600 t1, which are disposable anyway.

[naive sail]

lol

[wintry finch]

[waxen abyss]

What type of leader it is?

Ranged/Infantry/Cavalry

[waxen abyss]

Thanks

[turbid osprey]

most likely inf

[waxen abyss]

Yes

[turbid osprey]

?

[wintry finch]

What does this mean can it tell what formation of dn

[turbid osprey]

kinda

[glad thorn]

Anyone else getting this?

[wintry finch]

When rallying a darknest does it make a difference if you change your leader hero to cav ,range or inf

[split violet]

You doing dn with blast, so 4 hero for troops that u go with, and fifth can be other, but with army boost (for example rose knight, night raven, child of light and death knight, thats 4 cav hero and here u can also add other type like bombin golbin becouse of army atk)

I always got rose knight as a leader, and i also got her in every battalion

(inf/rng/cav battalion)

[polar prism]

or in full cav, it's an easy darknest

[wintry finch]

I had 470% maybe more I dont know how it works, and the dn 6 had like 1.5m t4 and like 300k t5 range and I have the right formation I counter it but I still lost cause of those damn pact 5 fam

It impossible unless you have members with t5 troop in your rally or god gear

[candid jolt]

It's not impossible, you just need to counter it. 400% blast is enough if you counter the front.

[grave scaffold]

For help. I wanna do this rally what am I using

[warped current]

Guys please help,
Why people use support in darknest rally, for example 1000 infantry and cavalry in Archer's rally, and what should be the amount of support if it's necessary

[mighty abyss]

I would try cav

[grave scaffold]

Done completed it

[drifting wren]

buffers- soak up damage

amount wise idk man. some people use 4, others 5000

[jade shell]

Can anyone tell me the army pattern for this

Please

[summer lake]

Dn is in infantry phal, any suggestions...went full range without buffer and lost

Should I go range/cav?

[iron jasper]

Would go cav

[mighty abyss]

Try inf

[wintry finch]

Why go cav I don't understand is it dangerous with the amount of range in that den

[mighty abyss]

It in inf front which you counter with cav

[wintry finch]

How do you know it in inf front

[mighty abyss]

He said it’s in inf phal

[wintry finch]

Oh ok

[thin ivy]

Help with this please

What should we do? We lost with the dn having 30% morale left

[misty lark]

Buffers would help a little. And that t3 isn’t helping

But I would suggest looking for an easier darknest. Preferably with 2 troop types not 3

[bronze isle]

Yes darknes lvl5 you dont put t3 only 1soldiers t3

[wintry finch]

I once saw a player defeat a dn5 with full t2

[bronze isle]

Serious ?🤔🫨

[summer lake]

Any way to guess dn6 lineup? The lineup we guess based on heroes and fam doesn't seem consistent enough.

Thoughts/opinions?

[wintry finch]

Yes an old friend that was before artifacts and Astralite a

[wintry finch]

I dont know the best way is to attack and if you failed try again with the right lineup

[chilly cloak]

Help

[mighty abyss]

@chilly cloak Full range blast, no buffers

[simple tinsel]

There’s only like 350k inf in front. Going cav would easily take out the inf but would have to take out a good amount of the dn’s cav as well before the range take out your cav in order to win

[simple tinsel]

It’s probably the best bet if he can’t win with range…depends on his form used though 🤔 there’s easy trick when dn is in a phalanx that counters your main troop type

[reef verge]

Formation, no, not as far as I know. But for anti ones, or trying to find good ones quickly, the cav leader ones are always cav heavy comps, and the ranged leader ones are always ranged heavy comps. Ones good for cav are harder to find because all of the roughly even mix comp ones have inf leaders.

[split violet]

Is is true? My highest troop tier is t4 and lets assume i have 2m t5 in rally, so is that the same power like 2m t4 just beocuse rally leader don't have unlocked t5? Does t5 fight like t4 in this situation?

[mighty abyss]

Your stats apply, but they are still t5

[split violet]

I know that stats apply, but other telling me that t5 fight like t4 if i don't have unlocked t5

[vestal axle]

They are lying or clueless

T5 are still T5 even if you don't have the research

[split violet]

I also think that it don't matter, but i will do test just to be sure

[autumn vector]

Should I send full range? Range attack is at 480%

[split violet]

I would try full rng + 500 inf and 500 cav as a buff in inf wedge

[plush phoenix]

Hello.Is there any difference between the awards for 26,27 and 28 ess?

[split violet]

27 is little bit harder than 26, and ess 28 always got antiscout

[plush phoenix]

Just fix what attack value you have and add to that the power of t5, which is higher than t4 by about 20%, if I'm not mistaken.Be sure that research does not affect whether t5s will be more effective in your rally or not.

[plush phoenix]

I meaned reward for ess

[split violet]

Then all got the same reward, but i think 27 and 28 got higher chance to get better reward

[reef verge]

Ess 28 can drop 24h research; 26 and 27 drop 2*8h. So not much. I don't know if the drop rates vary by ess lv. During the gem essence events they are all the same (1.5k gems).

[mighty abyss]

I thought they dropped 1*15h as well

[plush phoenix]

26,27 15h but 28 can give 1d(i think this ess can give a chance to get higher reward)

26,27 should give same rewards i think

[silent flare]

What should i send? The line up is Range Phalanx

[mighty abyss]

Send inf

[silent flare]

Thanks

[true harness]

What should I send ? Formation is Infa Phal

I sent 055 with Cav Phal but didn’t work

And also sent full range in Infa wedge

[split violet]

Full cav in inf wedge

With buffers 500 rng and inf

[ancient rampart]

It's range or inf?

And please explain how you decide whether It's range or inf

[split violet]

Send full rng in cav wedge

Cav will come out of wall before u destroy wall

Rng will stay at wall

And no matter what lineup dn got, u will attack cav

[ancient rampart]

So if it was inf range,Should I send cav?

And what if it was cav and inf dn?

[split violet]

If dn got cav and inf go with full cav+ 500 inf and rng in inf wedge

[split violet]

Btw, did u defeated this dn?

[ancient rampart]

Nope. My guild ask for dn scout reports and I wanted to helped and I said that dn was inf. They believed and start the dn with inf and someone scout it again and said that's range xd

[ancient rampart]

Reason?

[split violet]

Rng and inf is just for buff

[lone zodiac]

You send cav then

[lone zodiac]

Pure range rally

[ancient rampart]

Okay

[limpid knot]

Please join darkness really for gf

[faint anchor]

[placid flare]

No troops

[split violet]

Just did ess27 with 269% rng attack;D

[faint anchor]

Send the reports

[split violet]

I didn't saved raport

[tiny pike]

How much atk am I going to need for level 19+ ess?

[ashen sandal]

Around 300+% you should be good on 19 and 20 nests especially 2 troop type nests

Once you hit 21+ ess the nest is gonna have Familars which give it boosts.

[tiny pike]

I got like 325 Inf stats should I try and run one?

[near cedar]

Dn in cav phx , how to beat

[split violet]

Get mythic champ

Or find another lol

[near cedar]

Lol

[split violet]

D6 for inf are pain if line is something other than rng front

D6 for rng are easy

[plush phoenix]

Inf wedge

Easy

[split violet]

Yeah, i don't understand why peoples doing these dn's in cav wedge lol

[iron jasper]

Hello, can anyone help with darknest heroes list, as to which type of hero is for which type of troops??

[iron jasper]

Thank you ^_^

[pearl wadi]

This is a level 16 DN how would you guys hit it???

I wanna try without T5

[meager current]

Pure rng blast in rng phalanx

[pearl wadi]

Thanks

[swift barn]

going cav with inf wedge is it possible ?

[meager current]

[pearl wadi]

How much attack stat would you need to get level 23 essence? Like this one?

T4 only

[fluid walrus]

best gears for dark nests guys?

[vestal axle]

this should just barely do the job

[fluid walrus]

Give me 1000 $ and for sure

[graceful coyote]

Don't think you can get that with only $1000.

[fluid walrus]

:((

[boreal echo]

Inf or archers?

[placid flare]

Pure archers

[boreal echo]

Thank you

Only had an argument with a rude member

[placid flare]

[muted monolith]

First DN5!

[jade hatch]

does troops die in dark nest raid

[analog pelican]

YEs 100% of thE troops diE

[cloud abyss]

But the goddess has a big heart and revives them

[placid flare]

No they don't, if you have no hospital or no space in hospital then your troops will die.

[final basalt]

It shows you died but only 1% of your troops go to infirmary. If infirmary is full they will go to sanctuary

1% is maximum if you lose badly.

Otherwise only few will wounded

[jade hatch]

got it thanks

[ashen plover]

Any tips? Wall fell when we had 50% morality. Adding cav makes it less successful - only thing I can think of is a bit more siege and go full inf?

[lethal wren]

You have a random person putting T3 CAV in the first one. Pay attention to your fillers and send back people who send wrong. If you added those cav deliberately thinking they'll attack the inf while your inf attack the range: that isn't how it works. Your front attacks the event front. So you're strong enough to take out the enemy front or you aren't.

You need buffers. Send an inf blast with a few range and cav (like a few dozen of each should do it). That's it. Since it has an inf front you could try a cav blast, but there's a lot of range on there.

Your mix set up in attempt two will never work unless you have strong gear and p5.

You can increase your chances with more troops - upgrade battle hall, better gear (well obviously but that's not easy to do right away), or just save time and scout more and try another nest that doesn't have a counter front

[ashen plover]

Tyvm! So like 12/12 range/cav but with or without hero?

[placid flare]

Bro...those battle report hurts to watch

Oh it's darknest lmaoo

[lethal wren]

Yeah but use 4 inf heroes and an army hero like rose knight or Bombin Goblin or Watcher as your leader. Inf phal is still a good choice, though you could try range wedge

[ashen plover]

Still have to unlock Wedge. Thanks for the tips will try another time!

Currently nomming down some leaders :3

[lethal wren]

Ultimately, use this strategy, but you'll have a better time if you scout a lot of nests and keep trying different ones - save time to just hit one with only one troop type in it, or two types but with a front you can hard counter. As a beginner, don't run mixed nests, and don't waste too much time bashing away at one stubborn nest trying to kill it.

[ashen plover]

Will be last attempt, stubbornness is present and if the third one isn't the charm then I have to accept defeat 😛

[lethal wren]

Watch the battle. See if the wall is going down and what your squads are doing. I assume you don't have familiars yet, but at least all gold heroes?

[ashen plover]

Protected kingdom, still on purple. Wall went down at 50% morale with the first attempt.

[lethal wren]

Ooof. Add some siege, see if that helps. Wall should go down faster than that. Gold heroes does the trick though

[ashen plover]

Tyvm, will do. So 4 inf hero's 1 leader (cav) max inf - 12 cav 12 range and about 50-100k siege should do the trick if powerful enough?

[zenith peak]

Can show your stats?

[zenith peak]

Inf heroes should be oath keeper, soul forger, sea scquire, demon slayer and cav hero should be rose knight

[ashen plover]

@zenith peak @lethal wren Gave it my best

[zenith peak]

Ah your heroes are low grade

[ashen plover]

Unfortunately

[zenith peak]

Darknest level?

[ashen plover]

level 4

[zenith peak]

Stats are ok for a lvl 4 but heroes need upgrade

[ashen plover]

Alright, yeah I feel like with the last attack I gave it everything I had with minimal mistakes ~ just the heroes that are weak T_T

Learned a few things though so it's not an entire loss

[zenith peak]

You have 1 wrong hero in the lineup

[ashen plover]

Who's that?

[zenith peak]

Scarlet bolt

Replace her with soul forger or sea scquire

[ashen plover]

The reason for that is that both soul forger and sea squire were way weaker

Level 47 + green + 3 stars

[zenith peak]

You need to give priority to attack then hp and then def

Keep up the grind. You got acquiris?

[ashen plover]

Yes Still a hatchling though

[zenith peak]

He helps in upgrading heroes focus on him

[ashen plover]

With the free STA?

Alright thanks will do. Kingdom is still around 70 days in protection so I have time to grow I think

[zenith peak]

Yes

Yeah. A lot

[ashen plover]

Thanks for the advice, really do appreciate it

[deep creek]

DN6 are too easy. Any plans for DN7?

[zenith peak]

Not yet

[junior vault]

Is there a way to retrieve a lords mobile acc with just the Igg number?

[zenith peak]

If it was connected to any social media platform

[junior vault]

Yes it was but I can't login into the social media platform

[zenith peak]

Ask igg support

[junior vault]

How am i going to do that

[valid knoll]

https://www.igg.com/support/

[junior vault]

Ok thanks mate

[strong totem]

What do the heros say about the formation? Please @ me in the reply

[willow rover]

Very Unpredictable

[lethal wren]

Actually nothing. It's 100% random and unrelated to formation.

In some cases with dn6 the leader of the DN can correspond with the largest troop type. But not reliably, and never an indication of formation

[strong totem]

@lethal wren Thank you very much. Some of my guild were telling me i could tell the fronline by the hero... i didnt find a pattern, thank you for solving my issue 😁

[lethal wren]

It's an incredibly common myth that people still perpetuate despite evidence to the contrary

It works some times, (which of course it will - there's only 3 types for the front to be and sometimes they win with same type on same type) so there's a lot of confirmation bias.

[junior vault]

Cool

Where did you get this info from

[severe portal]

what should i take

[deft gyro]

In a new kingdom with t4

[valid knoll]

?warn @deft gyro account trading/selling is strictly prohibited and a ToS violtion

[sick garden]

Reinhard#4752 has been warned. || account trading/selling is strictly prohibited and a ToS violtion

[valid knoll]

ah crap a typo

[deft gyro]

Alright 😏

[pale nebula]

I know i am late to answer but it's a full infantry rally

[strong totem]

Guys can you help me rq - is that even possible with my gear and ~ full t4?

[civic furnace]

😆

[iron jasper]

[zenith peak]

Na you need more stats

Around 450

400 also works if you counter the formation

[strong totem]

Thanks ^^

[willow rover]

Need good familiars + good stat 450+ atleast

[strong totem]

Thanks for the advice guys ... i will work on my stats

[narrow tulip]

any tips? infantry wedge

[placid flare]

Don't do dn which have more than 2 troop type

[zenith peak]

Not possible actually without p5 fams
Your infantry is already lost and no way you're gonna send cav to it. And range might not even clear the inf front

P5 can help you that they will hit the backline.. Only possible way

[valid knoll]

Whats this? Igg admin alt account?

[iron jasper]

Inf or range

[placid flare]

Range

[zenith peak]

Range with no buffers

[pearl wadi]

Any recommendations? Hint front line is a Cav Phalanx

[split violet]

Trash dn, look for other or get mythic champ

[pearl wadi]

Copy

[zenith peak]

Give up unless you have pact 5 familiars

[split violet]

U mean to give up dn's lvl6 or just d6 for inf?

[zenith peak]

Na just inf ones

You can try though if the front is range

[split violet]

First i thought u mean to give up all d6 lol

[versed gyro]

How to rally this with t4? (Average gears)

[willow rover]

Inf

[placid flare]

Just find 2 troop type dn
They're much easier lol

[civic plover]

What I hit with

[split violet]

I would try with inf first

[split violet]

But i suggest u to find another dn, with 2 types of troops

[sullen raven]

Where is hardrox

[iron jasper]

[sullen raven]

can i try dn6 with this gears amd resaech

256% equipment atk

[zenith peak]

Easily

[grave scaffold]

What should I do. Full Infantry or? (Cause we hit and its got Infantry as a front line)

[cursive spruce]

If inf phalanx go range inf wedge

[placid flare]

I'd go inf
Search for darknest which are of 2 types. They are easier

[cursive spruce]

[grave scaffold]

Alright

[cursive spruce]

The person leading might be too weak tbh

[cursive spruce]

[placid flare]

Gear better than emperor

[misty lark]

Lemme resend that

Nobody saw guild chat

[placid flare]

[iron jasper]

atleast you noticed

[cursive spruce]

[iron jasper]

[misty lark]

[wide wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-birds-real-angry-birds-angry-birds-gif-24043549

the 2m range 500k cav nest sitting in cav phal
as i send a full inf blast at it

[placid flare]

[golden gull]

Those nests you jump with No buffers, pure range

[digital saffron]

Send range

[wide wyvern]

i didnt ask for advice

i know whats up with the nest i was fooling around with the gif

[placid flare]

People just tryna help

[golden gull]

Then why even post lol...
Darknest formations are random.

[wide wyvern]

bruh can you scroll up and see what i wrote

i dont wanna be the grammer police of memes

[green spire]

[wide wyvern]

but this is the my reaction to that information thing

[fallen hemlock]

[floral sun]

anyone got the darkness leaders with new ones included ?

[exotic path]

How can I beat a darknest?

[placid flare]

By rallying it

[exotic path]

How?

[wide wyvern]

bro's 1b might and kvk champ

[digital saffron]

Might have gotten ralliedb

[wide wyvern]

does being rallied take away your brain along with your troops as well?

https://tenor.com/view/black-man-meme-gif-26066047

[placid flare]

For my guild mate. Yes
Dude was getting rallied, we told him to go to wonder forest
Didn't listen
Got zeroed then started blaming us for not helping.

[wide wyvern]

just WoW

[exotic path]

😂 too many dense ppl fr

[solid nexus]

Can anyone help?

[placid flare]

I'd go cavalry

[solid nexus]

Full or like what? We all are newbies in the guild 😅

[placid flare]

Full cavs with buffers
4 inf 4 range rest cavalry
In range phalanx

[solid nexus]

What does 4 mean?

[placid flare]

4 infantry 4 range.
4 is the number of troops.

[solid nexus]

4 means in thousand or what?

[placid flare]

Use cavalry heroes in your March and cav gear if you have any

No, just 4
Not in thousands

[solid nexus]

Aa, why only 4? And what are they for?

[placid flare]

In blast attack - 1 troop type
You should send buffers
Buffers should be infront and main army at back.
Buffers will be targeted first giving time to your main troops to attack enemy troops

It varies players to players
Many use 4 buffers
Many use 1k+
I use 500
If i go cav then 500 range inf
If go inf then 500 cav range and so on

[solid nexus]

Aaa okay2, new lesson for me ^_^

[placid flare]

You can check phalanx and put your main troops accordingly
Just remember this - buffer infront main troops at back

[solid nexus]

Oh yea, another question, why use range phalanx and not other?

[solid nexus]

Aa okay2

[placid flare]

It put your cavalry at back

[solid nexus]

Thanks for the help ^_^

[placid flare]

You're welcome

[solid nexus]

Oh yea, our rally can hold 700k units, should we bring siege or not? And how does the siege affects the attack?

[placid flare]

Siege breaks wall that's all
At lvl2 dn you don't need siege

I've to go study
See ya later 👋

[solid nexus]

Why tho?

[placid flare]

Because game is programmed that way?
Siege breaks wall that's all they do

[solid nexus]

I mean, why u dont need siege?

[placid flare]

Your cavalry is enough to bring down wall, if stat is too low then you can add some siege
I don't use siege in my attacks

[solid nexus]

Okay thanks ^_^

[solid nexus]

See ya ^_^

[placid flare]

See ya Lad

[placid flare]

<@&917948198297944104>

[valid knoll]

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[sick garden]

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[valid knoll]

?warn @subtle void inapropriate stickers are not allowed

[sick garden]

Nevio777#6589 has been warned. || inapropriate stickers are not allowed

[valid knoll]

Thank you

[placid flare]

Thank you

[subtle void]

you cant even see anything but i guess there are kids on this discord

[valid knoll]

Should've guessed that when you noticed the lack of any 18+ signs

[subtle void]

2 warns tho?

[valid knoll]

2 warns indeed. Ww2 german stuff isnt allowed in 99% of the servers no matter if they are 18+ or not

[vestal axle]

[valid knoll]

[subtle void]

damn

when do warns expire?

[valid knoll]

Simple

They dont

[subtle void]

damn 2 warns for 1 gif

hard life as a moderator

[valid knoll]

Very hard indeed

[civic lotus]

Ok

[solar pebble]

hi

[zinc dagger]

[sleek beacon]

I can't only win a level 1 😖

[candid jolt]

Increase your battle hall for a start

[analog pelican]

Ooo mod

[small scarab]

[chilly oracle]

What should I use

[stuck gazelle]

what should I use in it.. without t5

[split violet]

Full inf+ buffers (500rng and 500cav) in rng wedge

[split violet]

That's mix, but first try full inf

[leaden falcon]

Full inf with 4 ranged 4 cav troops.

[stuck gazelle]

thanks all

[valid shell]

Hii

[iron jasper]

Malayali?

[zinc dagger]

Can I have more heart for the hero?

Cab you gave me the heart for heroes ?guis

1591789226 this is my igg guiz can you help me .please

[iron jasper]

for dn6 you need min 350% att and only t4

[zenith peak]

That is when you counter the front

[dawn schooner]

and single t3 reinforce and many t4 reinforcements too

[iron jasper]

only t4

[dawn schooner]

we won lvl 27 ess with 1 t3 reinforce too

i used to fill my lab with lvl 26/27 ess with 1 stealth sniper

[autumn orbit]

Is blackwing good for atacking darknest ?