👾┊familiars

[serene hull]

It doesn’t matter what size lol

The drop rate is the drop rate

[vestal marsh]

Bored

[timid sparrow]

Since you have 200 open 100 at a time for better rewards (luck factor is involved) - then normally I open 30+ pacts at a time to get good amount of familiars and fragments.

[serene hull]

No. Stop spreading this nonsense please

Drop rate is a PERCENTAGE.

Changing the amount of pacts you open won’t change that percentage

[timid sparrow]

Some players say that when we open 16 chests or 28 chests we get legendary material - well I am against it - drop rates of legendary materials are same whether they open 4 chests or 100 chests, however when it comes to familiar pacts its completely different - when you open 100 pacts at the same time you will get more familiar shards and less fragments but when you open the same 100 pacts in terms of ten, ten times then you will get more fragments and less famiar shards so I go inbetween to get both.

[serene hull]

Is there any evidence to support this?

I think not

[timid sparrow]

I shall merge pacts from, save them and then give - meanwhile I told this from my experience where I got gryphon elder much earlier (even when compared to p2p players) and on my way to get pact 4 elders

[serene hull]

Maybe my question was not clear

Is there any proof that opening pacts in different quantities gives different results? Or is all this based off your experiences

@timid sparrow

If it’s the latter of the two, I think it’s important to consider bias.

[clever reef]

@serene hull @timid sparrow http://lordsmobile.forum.igg.com/m/topic?ctid=8975

[serene hull]

Exactly

It’s a percentage, percentages aren’t affected by opening quantity

[clever reef]

The drop rates are based on their rarity. Hence "rarity"

[serene hull]

I’m not sure that was ever in question. Per my understanding, @timid sparrow thought the amount of pacts you opened at a time adjusted the fragment/familiar drop rate

Not that familiars of a higher rarity have lower drop rates

[clever reef]

Ah

[timid sparrow]

Exactly this is my point - and I believe that we get fragments every time we open

[serene hull]

Did you check the link to IGGs official drop rates?

[timid sparrow]

Therefore to get more fragments open in terms of less pacts to get more familiars open in terms of more pacts

[serene hull]

You may want to rethink that

Statistically speaking, you are no more likely to get different drops

When opening different batch sizes^

[timid sparrow]

Well I shall merge some pacts, take screen shots and then reply again later.

[clever reef]

The odds that you get a fragment - any amount - are 65%, 57%, 40%, 35% (Pacts 1 through 4) so if you're opening a lot of them, you're more likely to notice that you'll get a lot more fragments. but no matter how many you open at once, they're still the same drop rates.

[serene hull]

Okay. Just know guy shared the official igg drop rates

From you know… the game creators

[timid sparrow]

Yeah, read it.

[serene hull]

Yes. If you start with 200 of the same pacts, then open 100 of them 10 at a time, and the other 100 all at once, you should get roughly the same results from each 100

[timid sparrow]

Well, let's see

[serene hull]

Remember to consider bias 🙂

Humans tend to only remember what we want to remember

I’d recommend keeping a spreadsheet of some sort with EVERY single opening

[clever reef]

200 is probably too small of a sample size

[serene hull]

Yes - was just a simple example

Probably need at least 1k+

[teal jungle]

You'd need to collect data from 100k openings for statistical significance

[timid sparrow]

Pact 1 it's exactly the same in both the methods

Pact 2 opening 100 at a time gave 42 familiars and 125 fragments while opening in terms of 10 gave 45 familiars and 116 fragments

Pact 4 opening 100 at a time gave 64 familiars and 390 fragments while opening in terms of 10 gave 72 familiars and 282 fragments.

Difference is present and it scales up with higher level pacts.

(This difference is opposite to what I said earlier however in general I open 30+ pacts getting both familiars and fragments at the required level).

[clever reef]

You're cherry-picking data from your small sample size that fits your statement.

[timid sparrow]

Sample size is too small but now I did it during watcher pact merging hell event.

[jolly sun]

[opal notch]

Tbh drops are random, but everyone has their preference.. personally I open pacts in 40s. Doesn't mean that I'll get the same drops Everytime I do that

[teal jungle]

Please! Continue collecting data. Report back to us when you have over 10k data points

I literally couldn't be bothered opening anything other than the full amount that I have at any given moment

[timid sparrow]

Actually I wanted to say open 30 pacts to the newest member who requested how much to open at a time but somehow got pulled into this, anyhow I got rank 1 in hell event and hope to the same rank in solo event too. Thanks

[teal jungle]

If some newbie is asking, the correct answer is: it makes no difference. So open however many makes you happy

[wise lantern]

Lol that is why I merge 25 at once

[serene hull]

You need a higher sample size than that, as it’s a percentage. It’s not what’s always going to happen, it’s what’s LIKELY to happen. There will be times when you get “lucky”

[serene hull]

True… but is that realistic for one dude on his lords mobile account?

[clever reef]

I merge 13 at once in one spire and it takes me under 23 hours

[jolly maple]

Anyone have gluewitch familiar?

It can kill enemy hero for 12 hours

[clever reef]

Can you share a screenshot?

[jolly maple]

No

[clever reef]

Then the familiar doesn't exist

[jolly maple]

We should have entry thomes to login in game.
Common 1 login, uncommon 2 logins so on.

I don't understand why game login is free of cost

[teal jungle]

You want people to have to pay just to log in now?

The whole point is that downloading the game and creating an account is free. But premium items are Hella expensive.

There's plenty of games out there that you have to pay quite a lot to download and play at all, but once you have it playing is free, go play one of those

[green jungle]

would people say that getting durable wards rs is worth it? Or are actual p4/p5 attack skills not used all that frequently anyway?

[rain bluff]

I've been hit by two Grims in 2 years. Lol. If you're a lead then sure

[tawdry flower]

What is the best familiar on the 2nd pack

[green jungle]

cheers

yeah I figured the cost of using those skills is pretty prohibitive

while huey's will be rather more useful, when it comes to spending skill stones

[jolly sun]

people who could afford to bee grim bon you on a regular basis tend to spend their cores on blackwings and bunnies instead most of the time

[rain bluff]

For ore I'd say Krabby. But if it's wood then it's Totempest

[green jungle]

yea

[tawdry flower]

I mean pact 1B

[rain bluff]

Ore is Engineer and Wood is Oakroot

Pact 1 best avg is territe and aquiris

[scarlet shale]

How is it work

[clever reef]

#👾┊familiars message

[worn island]

What is the best f2p familiars

[vestal marsh]

[verbal forum]

That's a personal choice dependent on your play style.

[teal jungle]

What pact do you have unlocked so far? If you only just unlocked familiars, aquiris is probably a good start.

Take some time to read through all the pacts (even the ones you didn't unlock yet) to get familiar with their skills - look at the support skills and the army talents.

[worn island]

Attack skills f2p

[plain void]

@worn island

[bleak crescent]

[vocal wigeon]

how much tomes I need to do research tree to slot 4 familliar?

[green jungle]

iirc about 5k

[lucid lava]

Bakr

[fast monolith]

take your time to bring up all their skills to 10; the resource and other boosts they all provide in one way or another help you significantly

[vestal rose]

What fam should I go for next?
Only lvl 60 fams I have are yeti and aquirius

[green jungle]

hoarder?

[green jungle]

lucky stars one?

[urban maple]

imo go for pact 3 familiars trickstar,goblin, then get pact 4 and rush for helldrider and hoarder

[wise lantern]

I'm going for tempestite

[open sand]

Now the gold orb grind

[crude jolt]

gg

And good luck

[floral sundial]

Hello

[vestal rose]

What are 3 familiars good for a rally trap
(Non-p5)

[plain void]

how to get familiars?

[vestal rose]

End last skirmish, there you can build 3 buildings
-spire: used to merge pacts, you can open pacts to unlock, and then to upgrade your familiars
-gym: used to train your familiars, gives them exp to lvl them up
-spring: these prdouce anima (rss needed for familiar research, merging pacs, etc...), thzse also reduce the time needed to merge pacts

Oh and 1 monsterhold where you can see your familiars

[clever reef]

#👾┊familiars message

[vestal rose]

What are 3 best familiars for a rally trap ?
(Non-p5)

[errant egret]

Aquiris, Tempestite, and some specific attack familiar of pact 1

[errant egret]

Pact 3 and pact 4 fams work when you lose troops...and you don't want to lose millions of troops before your familiar pops out for the first time.

[rain bluff]

Tempestite also works when you lose troops

Best wall familiars are
Weevil, aquiris, Terraspike, Jaziek, and Magma whatever it is. Magma being least used depending on how often you take ranged

[vestal rose]

I am making a range front rally trap

[rain bluff]

I believe pyris could work on a large comp but I'm not sure and it'd have to be tested well

How many slots? If 3 do weevil, aquiris, terraspike. Then you get a nice debuff on inf if you take a counter/counter with cav

[vestal rose]

Comp would be something like 20m t2 inf 20m t2 cav 5m t4 range 200k t4 cav and inf t3 siege (idk how many yet)

[rain bluff]

O.o fams are gonna wreck you

[vestal rose]

I know lol

[rain bluff]

I mean like you are forced into ranged front

Otherwise everything walks back

So ranged on ranged would ruin you if p5 hits cav

[vestal rose]

I don't need to check front and can just change gear

[rain bluff]

So you'll shed like 5m on every rally lol

[vestal rose]

P5 hits largest squad right? Can just do a few more inf

[rain bluff]

Hopefully you have strong army hp. And counters lol

[green jungle]

How are squads assigned? By heroes? (Eg 2 inf heroes 2 ranged 1 cav means the troops will be divided up that way? )

With at least 1 squad per type present?

[little saffron]

Can someone tell me
If I use rose knight as a hero which gives army attack in full infantry rally and none of the cavalry included in rally then will it's army attack stats works?? Or it's standing back without doing anything?

[plain void]

Hello

[green jungle]

She does something but not much since power depends on the size of the unit she leads

[rain bluff]

In castle defense your heros are assigned to all troops it says

[rain bluff]

Army attack stats work. The Squad Skill is what will either be weak or inactive since it's based on squad size and strength

[jolly tulip]

what were the best familiars for wall ?

[nimble lion]

Yes ,army atk for all stats

[reef ferry]

How to awaken army talent?

[urban maple]

after maxing the familiar to elder u can unlock them with respective orbs pact 3 and below with red orbs and pact 4+ with yellow

[green jungle]

if you dont really have p5 fams yet, does it even make sense to spend money (or research time) on this until / unless you've already largely finished with artifacts?

[teal jungle]

Artifacts is gonna take a long time to max unless you're a very heavy whale level spender (and even for those, it seems like it's a bit of a slow roll).

P5 fams are still a very very worthy investment if you can get them

[jolly sun]

even if you get artifacts up pretty high which is expensive without p5 fams if you get countered by someone who has their counter research done you won't do much dmg

and if you can't afford to do the slow roll options (the weekly/daily packs + all the 7/30d bundle stuff) of artifacts at the same time as you work on p5 fams than going hard on artifacts isn't the best idea other than getting the basics that have best value 30d supply 7d bundle , log in gifts , kingdom labours

[acoustic cosmos]

Gg

[gusty violet]

Also looking for advice on wall familiars, have 4 slots open, considering pact 4 shield familiar for frontline after watching Avatrex video

[spice patio]

Aevatrex is correct

[gusty violet]

What if you don’t have p2p fams? Any suggested lineups for range front

Or inf

[kind sand]

It depends upon what type of acct you got

If you're a range rein trap, you'll have trickster on wall

The 5 go to familiars for a general acct with a rally trapping comp would be : Aquiris, Weevil, Magmalord, Jaziek, Terraspike

[spice patio]

Snowbeast and Trickstar are the main ones you want, for the rest some base stat familiars

[gusty violet]

Ppl say don’t put stacking fams on wall but hell if u don’t counter u looking at 3M dead easy so mite as well if u lose 10% comp

[spice patio]

That's BS, if the rally lead uses p5 your fams will 100% always proc, especially as a rally trap

It is 10% of your ranged troops only so not of the entire army

Even if you have 10m ranged troops it will proc at least once

The stacking familiars make a huge difference

100% is a lot of extra stats

[gusty violet]

So for a 8M range front probably go with Trickstar , Aquarius , evil weivel , then try snowbeast for 4th slot

[spice patio]

Sounds about right

[gusty violet]

Appreciate it man , fam can be can get confusing

[spice patio]

It is confusing, also if you can buy 1 jade wyrm pact pack it makes a pretty big difference too

Even helps a bit at hatchling

[gusty violet]

Oh yeah I def want that counter boost

[spice patio]

But only for infantry-ranged counter at hatchling

If you want the ranged-cav counter you'll need to get it to adult

I believe you can get infantry-ranged counter to like level 5 or 6 at hatchling even

Which gives a decent boost

[gusty violet]

Maybe might go with an inf front then 🙂

[remote root]

Except jade wyrm, you can get them slowly through GF and bargain shop.

You'll finish before artifacts ;D

[rain bluff]

Nope lol

[rain bluff]

So 800k loss per stack? Lol

If I have 45m troops. 15 each line. 10% is 1.5m. If you're losing 1.5m in a rally hit then your familiars won't be saving you lol

On small comps % activation is perfect. Large ones it's terrible and you're basically saying you're willing to lose 10% of your troops lol

[jolly sun]

and even if you do lose the 1,5m the point when you get the buff will be near the end of the battle when you don't get much from the buff anyways

[rain bluff]

Yeah like gryphon is 10 seconds lol. You'll get like a 1 second boost. And tbh if you get it early then you probably shouldn't take the rally lol

[jolly sun]

or you're getting countered

but still you aren't happy xD

[rain bluff]

Yep lmao and it barely even dampens the counter

Losing 10% of your comp is a bad time xD. I run 9 to 12m and I rarely even take a 10% loss

[jolly sun]

I took one today and got 700k loses while taking it in mh gear lol

[rain bluff]

Yeah that too lol. Having passive familiars make noodles even softer

[jolly sun]

from this

[rain bluff]

Least I took was 40k from a leaderless rally

No p5 fams xD

[jolly sun]

he sent horsies into a range front stack rally party trap

[rain bluff]

Oof super weak. Fams didn't even counter lol

Someone tried to see if I could be soloed last night xD

[green jungle]

Gf? But yeah, I would still argue for getting everything unlocked to adult for the passive bonuses, just wonder about the combat skills, given that they only give you like 9% extra kills best case, a bunch of lvl 5 artifacts could probably match that

And to unlock those combat skills you'd probably have to spend at least 1 grand on tycoon, plus about 300$ for each maxed familiar

[rain bluff]

If you want to lead rallies you need pact 5. If not they're optional/extra

Base stats most important part for non leads. So max 60 with no battle skills is fine

[green jungle]

Can see how they were prior to artifacts, but now?

[rain bluff]

Same thing

Pact 5 allow you to hit backline. Or if you're lucky the front you're hitting.
Also bases damage off stats and counters.

[jolly sun]

if you lead without p5 fams and get countered you gonna do no dmg even with max artifacts if the target has counters researched

[rain bluff]

If you get countered without pact 5 you can do like no damage even with 900+ stats

Helps wear down solo traps as well. High stats won't always work

[green jungle]

Ok

[spice patio]

Rally traps don't have these numbers, and yes even then a full mythic champ rally lead with p5 will definitely kill 1.5m of your t2

[gusty violet]

Basically he saying if u take a maxed P5 hit u already losing 800k at start so might as well have 100% extra attacks from the stack

[spice patio]

I never said it's gonna be a massive game changer, but I'd rather have 100% extra attack at the end of a battle than a few % base stats from pact 1 at the start

[rain bluff]

Not always lol

Barely even hits 10% total. Only 2 stacks of 10% one line. (Also I'd have to have a cav stacker or inf)

I also assume I always counter. I don't assume I'm going to lose.

[serene hull]

2 stacks of 10% on your front line is an extra 200% attack. I’d say that’s worth it

[spice patio]

It is 10% of your stacking troops, not the entire army

[gusty violet]

Nice counter, You lost 18% of your Cav frontline , a stacking fam would have given u 100% extra Cav attack halfway through battle .

[rain bluff]

Depends on which fam

Yeah but I use HP debuffs cause I have a wider gap in HP than attack vs a lead.
I'm aiming for pact 5

[gusty violet]

Like the difference between a 700% blast and 500% mixed gear for example ?

[opal notch]

Uh.. haven't you seen rally traps with over 50m troops

[spice patio]

I've only seen party traps with those numbers

[rain bluff]

Why not use hp stackers? Since they're mainly being used when you're countered or hit hard. That'd reduce overall damage. If you're buffing the line being countered with attack it'll be severely dampened. Where HP let's your troops Last longer

[languid vine]

What is the best way to get Brilliant and Bright Talent Orbs f2p?

[remote root]

all events where you get them

[coral shadow]

Hell events, exchange and gf

[open sand]

Few more levels and I can kill my guilds troops without losing my leader

[clever reef]

I'm close. Just under 31k exp @ 13.9k every 28 hours

[clever reef]

Hope you aren't trying for lvl60 lol

[open sand]

Lvl 50 is fine to get lvl 1

About a week of training to go

[clever reef]

Huey Hops skill costs roughly 128k gems in chaos cores.

[open sand]

Good job I have 128 chaos cores from tycoon runs

[teal jungle]

Yeah but popping a bunny is so much cheaper than losing a valuable rally lead

[green jungle]

What else to use the cores on that's more worthwhile though? Black breath?

[jolly sun]

That's why you should be the not valueable lead and just shroom

[green jungle]

I wouldn't really advocate buying cores, myself

[jolly sun]

I buy them and blackwing rallies it's fun

[green jungle]

But for those you get from tycoon anyway

[jolly sun]

3rd/4th hit when it's only reins as front or close to it you scream black dragooooooon on call and click the button

Saves the defenders a healing bill it's very thoughtful makes sure they don't run out of RSS and can keep reinforcing

[open sand]

Gotta do a yolo rally on rival guild you think are offline sometimes

[jolly sun]

[plain void]

[plain void]

how to overcome anima shortage

pact 3 and 4 require so much of it

[clever reef]

There was a 99¢ pack that was out for a few days that had 1.2m of it

[plain void]

research for cost reduction takes ages

[plain void]

im f2p

[grave thicket]

build more springs

[kind sand]

If youre f2p then take Anima from cargo, build more springs, do cost reduction

There's no other way around it

[clever reef]

I've had 5 springs for the longest time, only need 3m anima for chaos merging hells

2 gyms, 1 spire (13 pacts), 5 spires

[plain void]

i do have a problemo, should i focus on getting to c25 first so i can get treasure trove maxed or go for this pact thingy first

[plain void]

oh right

[clever reef]

Also to add: pact 4 cost reduction is at 3/10

[plain void]

should i just use technoblade for that?

[kind sand]

Don't go c25

Keep saving speeds, boost t2 whenever you can for hell events, get top 3, easy jewels

[vestal rose]

I need him for my trap, this is pain

(I know its not hard at all, just annoying. I tought I was done with pact 1B)

[lean halo]

Is it ok to replace my maxed evil weevil or teraspike on the wall for a maxed sorcerer? considering that my front is ranged and I hardly change it. With new update, almost everytime a titan hits,atleast 10% of ranged troops are wounded. Unless it's a cav attack.though 1112% cav did more than 10% as well.

[plain void]

Me too

[lean halo]

Exchange in cargo ship everytime. Also build one gym and train only one fam at a time, 1 or 2 mystic spires and the rest springs. Worth it for f2p. Also max the familiar for anima production.

[plain void]

[hollow veldt]

What familiars should I use on my wall

[open sand]

Different stages of the game will provide Different familiars, and there's dispute between t5 fams.

But you can't go far wrong with aquaris (-15max hp), evil weevil (+15 max hp) and 15% atk for your front line if you're in a wedge.

Other options could be reduce max hp for the counter if you always sit In same formation

[quasi narwhal]

Ye boiiii

[open sand]

Damn what a drop!

[green jungle]

I got the same drop, except my gold was green and other two were grey

[urban maple]

its kind of similar still a good drop, just got it now

[hollow aspen]

How many runes do you need for hell drider from adult to elder?

[kind sand]

200

[hollow aspen]

Thnk u

[pliant epoch]

I haven't unlocked any of the army talents, i have 300+ red orb and 100+ gold orb which familiar army skill should i focus ?? Suggest please

[spice patio]

depends if you want to attack or defend

[pliant epoch]

Attack

[jolly sun]

Yellow orbs you want gryphon

[reef ferry]

How to get familiar faster to elder stage? I have always merge packs & have been 2 months but my familiars still in adult stage...😩

[grave thicket]

well, you can level them in the gyms and get relics from pacts. thats all

[reef ferry]

No others way? It's seem so slow to get max runes level required to upgrade to elder stage...😫

[grave thicket]

yup

it is slow

[green jungle]

getting all the heroes at least once helps a lot, upgrade them to the extent you are able/willing

[blissful saffron]

What are the best familiars to have on my wall if I have 52 million troops?

[hollow aspen]

sheild immediately

[plain void]

aquiris, weevil

these 2 are really good

and for the three go for p5 fams

[serene hull]

For 52m troops? Don’t p5 activate after a certain % are killed?

3 of your fams would be useless unless your taking a big hit. Which at that point you’ve already lost

[opal notch]

Mm yeah it's not really efficient for that comp... Need to lose about 2m troops for the fams to activate... But if they do activate, rip the attacker lol

Tho I guess taking 2m damage even if we counter gonna be the new normal with all these insane stats around

[green jungle]

Yeah

Might be a reason to get some t1 tbh

😂

[opal notch]

Mmm... 52m troops, 2m each T1... p5 fams on wall, take 2m T1 losses and fams activate lol.
Disclaimer: I shall not be held liable for any burns that may occur as a result of someone doing this

[open sand]

aevatrex made an updated video about wall familiars recently. Maybe good to review and conclude what you think after viewing

[remote root]

This game runs in years not months.

[reef ferry]

😏

[open sand]

I currently have 4 slots open. 5 in 3 weeks (waiting on technos)

I'm unsure what fams to use on my 442 comp.

I currently use aquaris, trickstar, gemming gremlin and gryphon.

I have bon and huey at only lvl 1 so was gonna leave them out until I upgrade them to lvl 3 minimum

Would I be better using more inf focused fams while sitting in rng phalanx?

[green jungle]

wdym inf focused fams?

[open sand]

So for example bon, huey, gryphon and gemming since rng sits at the back while the inf marches through

[green jungle]

you don't have the shield fams?

[open sand]

No

[jolly sun]

you want trickstar

since you will be taking hits in range phal

[open sand]

So trickstar, gryphon, gemming, aquaris, bon, huey?

Wait... that's 6 lol

[jolly sun]

aquaris isn't necessary

[open sand]

Ok so scrap aquaris then that'll be my 5?

[green jungle]

I'd put in terraspike, myself, but idk much

[jolly sun]

for forts ?

[open sand]

Yea

[green jungle]

ah

[jolly sun]

and yes

[open sand]

For a 442 comp

[jolly sun]

you will inf phal other 442s

and range phal most other comps

so both stacking will be doing work

[open sand]

I see, I better get upgrading my bon and huey

[jolly sun]

do bon first :p

[open sand]

Yes, that 600% is nuts. I'm gonna max gryphon 1st since he's lvl 7 already

[jolly sun]

ye and cheaper

[open sand]

The 160 gold orbs to unlock lvl 1 p5 fams is eye watering though

[jolly sun]

it's 10% of the total lol

[green jungle]

yeah more than 2 p4 fams for every p5

[jolly sun]

the p4 other than gryphon aren't worth going for before p5 tho

[green jungle]

otoh getting huey alongside bon will improve blast damage for that type, on the other.. you might save them for which is it, blackwing?

[jolly sun]

he'd have to get bw elder tho and I'm assuming that could be an issue since he likely got bon and bunny while working on cup so others might still be a bit far

[green jungle]

blackwing comes from which tycoon? venom?

[jolly sun]

pearls I think

venom is frost and bee if I remember correctly

yep just checked venom is frost and bee

[green jungle]

ah yes, tidal gives gargantua and bw

odd mix, though I suppose I'm grateful

since I don't need venom any more

[jolly sun]

can always make a second bumble ;p

[green jungle]

lol

yeah thanks for that idea

[jolly sun]

I did and now I have 2 useless ones with no jewels

cuz I made champ helmet lol

[green jungle]

:p

the armet?

[jolly sun]

no lol

or wait maybe

[green jungle]

okay

[jolly sun]

I dunno names cav one tho the pure stat

[green jungle]

the least ugliest one

cr

[jolly sun]

this

[green jungle]

okay

cav blast one

[jolly sun]

the one with most army hp

[green jungle]

yeah that too

anyway, nty, not gonna get second helm 😛

it'd only be an improvement over wyrmbone if mythic, and fuck getting another 13 embers for that 😛

[jolly sun]

I had one for mix one for cavs

[green jungle]

ah yes

so why didnt you get three? 😛

[jolly sun]

cuz I like coronet for range more

I'm not using either of the bumbles for range now

[waxen cloud]

Hi! can i have questions what can you suggest for F2P wall familiar and why?

[open sand]

2 standard f2p familiars which are good in any situation are evil weevil (+15% max hp) & aquaris (enemy -15% max hp)

Then you can have a 15+ atk at start to match your default front line like gnome for 15%+ atk for rng there's also engineer for inf

[waxen cloud]

Thank you

[kind sand]

You can also use Jaziek, Magmalord and Terraspike for f2p walls fams, theyre the familiars that decrease cav, range and inf hp of enemy by 40%

[pastel pebble]

how can i get to level 60 Yeti

[grave thicket]

train them, familoar level cant exceed player level tho

[desert sundial]

🇺🇲

[atomic blaze]

give him overdoses

[pastel pebble]

😂

[hushed quail]

You have to be level60.. then you can train him to level 60

Like the hero

[steep ruin]

Shouldnt mole shaman be the top priority

[open sand]

Why?

[opal notch]

Dafuq why

[open sand]

I mean I have maxed him as his passives are good but not sure why it would be a priority

[opal notch]

I don't even have him maxed

[jolly sun]

it gives inf stats and inf stats are the only real stats

[opal notch]

I meant the wall healing skill. Probably at level 2 or 3

[open sand]

Infirm capacity and inf atk passive are sweet.... I did max wall repair though

[errant patio]

which t5 fam is the best to spend orbs on?

or in general where should i spend my brilliant orbs

[green jungle]

depends on your play style and what you want to spend

not 1 answer, really

[rain bluff]

If you're only doing one I'd max gryphon with brilliant. After that it really depends

[open sand]

Agree gryphon 1st as he can be uses in any rally. The most likely t5 to unlock is bon & huey as most do halo rotation in tycoon so bon would be a good t5 to upgrade as it's a 600% atk familiar

[teal jungle]

They specified p5 fam, so I'm assuming they meant the paid familiars and not Gryphon.
So, to elaborate on the question: after gryphon, which of Bon appetit, Huey Hops, Queen bee, Blackwing, Garganta & Frostwing should one focus on, if one can only spend orbs for one familiar

And then the answer comes down to, which troop type do you most need to favour.
Because there's 2 for each type, one that's a hardcore blast damage and one that's stacking.

[open sand]

... yes and we said gryphon 1st before a t5. But if they have maxed gryphon then do a 600% which will most likely be bon because most do halo rotation on tycoon

[teal jungle]

I managed to max Gryphon f2p (obvs I'm not f2p, but never spending on familiars, just getting orbs from event rewards). And now it's probably gonna be Bon due to that reason (Tycoon). But also 😭 what's even the point of getting it lv2 and taking a year to get lv3😂😂😂

[mellow arrow]

what level will I have to get to attack with my familiars?

[urban maple]

lv 50

[mellow arrow]

okay thanks

can anybody explain please?

[opal notch]

You need to upgrade your familiar to adult stage before it can level up further

You need 20 runes I think

[vestal rose]

P1 is 5 runes to adult and 40 to elder

And 200 orbs to max it out

[opal notch]

[rigid flint]

U going for max hp drop to archers?

Well you need 40 runes for making it old

[young seal]

Hii

Everyone

[random ridge]

What are the best f2p familiars on the wall for a rally trap?

[steel rain]

Do wevil, aquaris, and whatever your frontline is…the debuff for its counter

Ex if you are inf frontline, then the f2p familiar that does the debuff for enemy cav

There’s many opinions people will have, but if you are trapping and have 3 slots, I think this is a good combo

Boosts your army hp. Decreases enemy army hp. And weakens the troop type that is most dangerous to your frontline

[candid pier]

Does the 40% hp debuff & aquarius scale with the familiarty hp researchs?

[manic sky]

How many pact 3 should I open at once for better drops(if that’s even a thing)

[teal jungle]

It's not a thing.

Makes no difference how many you open at a time, the random luck remains the same

[reef ferry]

😏

[lean halo]

Hey, I finally tested out. Sorcerer is better than teraspike on the wall. I did the test against the same person, same stats. Moreover sorcerer can activate at any time for as long as 10% have fallen while teraspike is effective only on inf attacks.

First SS is sorcerer second SS is teraspike. Inf Vs range front both attacks. @rain bluff

[junior pagoda]

I have 3 fam sluts. What should I put in 3rd? Territe, Pyris or Tempestite?

It’s for my wall def

[opal notch]

Tempestite is a big no...
Pyris and territe are better.

If you have the -40% hp fams or the +15% attk ones, you can use one of those instead

[urban maple]

probably every fam which works after a % of ur troops die is bad for def correct me if i am wrong @opal notch

donno about those p5 600% fams

[green jungle]

I'm still waiting for the p6 auto-cancel fury & shield $11k familiar

[bleak crescent]

The 600s are the best I think if losing 4% will be quick. Must have good stats though but that's mostly obvious if you have the 600s maxed.

[opal notch]

The 600% fams are Super effective if you have below 50m troops.. they trigger at 1.6m losses if you have 50m troops... Still decent but might not work if you counter.
Also they depend on initial attack % of the troop type so they won't be as effective as that of the rally lead

Stackers can work also depending on the comp

[lean halo]

if you use stackers and you're countered, they'll activate but for example how effective will it be to increase inf atk by 100% against cav which is countering you? I don't recommend stackers on the wall, maybe the 80% HP fams.if you're gonna lose 10%+ even if you counter then maybe stackers are good for you.

[rain bluff]

Yeah as long as you can lose 10% you're fine. But also once you swap off ranged it's useless. But if you never swap it can work.

HP I'd always recommend for defense of castles. Tier 2 thrive on HP and they just have to buy you time basically. But also reducing enemy HP works well. I use inf/cav reducers cause I'm typically only getting inf or cav rallies. But I'd like to use pact 5 4% loss ones. 3x then weevil/aquiris for the HP gap.

Also now with all the higher stats around lower end castles might be a lot better off with stackers on their wall since they'll usually take big losses on counter

[lean halo]

Yeah, but would the atk gained from stackers be much effective when you're countered? A range front is countered and gains 100% more range atk against the invaders inf, how much would that really help?

[rain bluff]

The HP ones would be better I'd assume since they give each troop more survival time. Any damage gains would be severely decreased where HP would be fine. I think the only issue lies in it being 10 seconds long where stackers keep stacking. If you lose 50% you gain 500% attack

You're doing solo trap too right? Where attack could be beneficial as well due to Time too. If you're hit hard it makes you stronger and makes up for lack of those troops. I'd say in that situation a gryphon would be better because it'll buff your backline

I'm more rallies though so I aim to just not be countered. But it's different as a solo trap especially one front.
As ranged front cavs best as biggest line for familiar damage though too

[lean halo]

Gryphon is expensive for the orbs. But for gryphon to activate, I have to loose 600k plus. So far the most casualties I've had in one battle was 510k against 1034% counter. It'll be rare for gryphon to activate.

[rain bluff]

That's what I was wondering too looking at the report. Even if it hit it'd be too late for 10 seconds to matter

Wait. Ranged wedge is also terrible to send inf in

They're so fat and lose like half the time xD. Inf or ranged phal I believe it is

Ranged phal for garrison I think it is but straight inf phalanx for inf cause time lost is damage lost for inf. If you watch the video your cav will be at his inf way before they even bother your ranged xD

[lean halo]

The 80% HP lasts for 10 seconds. And battles last for 40 seconds. The HP fams are the best. And it also seems that having more HP is better than reducing enemy's HP. So I'll find a better fam to replace aquiris

[rain bluff]

But still. It shows the results either way. Just the damage would be slightly higher, but like 500k maybe

Hmmm idk I'd still be attached to aquiris cause it's versatile

But if you're limited slots then you may have better options

[lean halo]

I have 3 slots, maybe I can replace aquiris with tera, because it's counters that hurt the most.

[rain bluff]

That and matching but more counter. But it's 3x aquiris so it'd be much better when countered

Probably minimal difference with ranged anyways. But if cavs your biggest line a strong ranged can really hurt ranged wedge

[lean halo]

The range would need to kill half my range first before it can target my cav. I took 900% inf in range wedge with speed gear, 225% mixed and not half my range was annihilated. I doubt range would do that much damage if I have all my stats.

[rain bluff]

Its the familiars that hurt the tier 2 cav. But if you.have good army hp you're typically fine

[lean halo]

I have cav HP

[rain bluff]

Yeah then you're fine to soak ranged hits

Lots of beds too so easy refills

[lean halo]

Same attacker but refused to counter me after seeing my comp.my comp and stats have improved since then. Little difference from cav and range p5. The damage is less for solo traps.her range stats were higher than cav. Also the t5 count was meh

[sharp burrow]

guys , did im doing right for wall familiar ?

[quartz geode]

gryphon is good

[sharp burrow]

not for take single rally or someone with a lot troops

[jolly sun]

what does single rally have to do with it

if you're taking multi rallies and not getting zeroed you gonna be fat and gryphon is even less likely to activate

[sharp burrow]

dude im not a content creator who will take any rally if myself is a trap , i only take double or triple if i knew about the enemy leader

i have around 30m troops , lv 5 gryphon is bad choice

need 10% troops fallen first to active the gryphon skill

wich mean 3m troops

[jolly sun]

I just don't get the point of it not being for single rallies specifically

it is bad but it's bad for everything not just singles lol

[sharp burrow]

i choice army HP , reduce enemy HP , reduce enemy inf HP and enemy Cav HP

because mostly rally leader will open first rally with inf or cav

my mix stats around 464 461 391

i ever took a rally from max out emperor account , i only get 1m t2 reds with these familiar

[jolly sun]

lol

report please

[sharp burrow]

dude that's old report , i already delete it because not really interested to save for long time

i dont ask you to believe it or not , i just told you

[jolly sun]

I doubt it since fams alone are gonna kill about a mil with gear that gives the stats you posted

[sharp burrow]

i only got 1m red + 400k wounded , if i put lv 5 gryphon on wall i need to make my 3m troops fallen first to active it

then it useless if i have 4th slot familiar if i didnt get 3m reds

[open sand]

I see a lot of bigger guys put the 600% atk fams on walls these days which makes sense as they're more likely to run into rallies with t5 fams which instantly kill minimum 1m t2

[jolly sun]

my wall setups are very creative

and with loads of diversity

[opal notch]

For wall? No

[quartz geode]

Wait why not?

Its army attack

[opal notch]

Yes, but you need to lose 10% of your troops before it activates. The bigger your comp, the worse it gets

Gryphon is great for attacking but shitty for defending

[quartz geode]

Ohh

Never thought of that

Thats means all my familiar is wall is trash

[opal notch]

Assuming you have 20m troops, you need to lose 2m before it activates.. that's a lotta reds alreadythe point of defending is to lose as little troops as possible

[quartz geode]

Alr thanks

[opal notch]

What's there rn and how's your comp

Can ping if needed. I'm not watching this chat

[quartz geode]

I dont wanna talk about it

[opal notch]

Yikes

The only time I'll suggest using stacker fams on wall is for rein traps... Trickstar for range rein traps and gremlin for inf rein traps... But never more than one

[opal notch]

If you're not a rein trap, then you need to change all of em

[quartz geode]

yea, gotta work on the other ones

just working on the supports ones rn

thanks for the advice

[mellow flicker]

aquirius army talent or evil weevil army talent?

[quartz relic]

both

[mellow flicker]

If you had to choose one which one

[urban maple]

i would choose enemy debuff over self buff

[lean halo]

If you have to choose one, when defending, evil weevil is better. If you're attacking, aquiris is better. According to my testing, when defending more hp is more important.

[lean halo]

If you're defending,in terms of HP it's the other way round.

[urban maple]

[urban maple]

yes u seem to be correct, better to defuff enemy with millions of troops while attacking and buffing my millions of troops while defending, what would u say about forts though? aquiris?

[lean halo]

Idk about wonder battles. Lol

[jolly sun]

If you have to consider aquiris as an option for wow fams setup you might be better off not doing wow

[bleak crescent]

Agree.

[urban maple]

just in theory, i only saw p5 and stacking fams in wow until now

[jolly sun]

Well the only person I saw using either of the 15 hps was using aquiris till I fixed her setup lol

[urban maple]

[quartz geode]

How many tomes to get familiar slot 4?

[clever reef]

I should have a max Pyris by the end of the week

[exotic dew]

Just want to make sure what this means.

If in a battle there is familiars, my cav attack will go up by 10%. Eg my wall has gnome which increases range attack.
Now if i am rallied, gnome takes part in battle, and thus my cav attack will go up by 2% (or 10% at max)

[open sand]

Yes, will do as fams are integrated into Battle when defending as well as attacking

[jolly sun]

Wow I didn't even know the full tomes for sigil slots it seems I'd be halfway to T5 on my alt if I didn't do the 3 sigil slots lol

[open sand]

Sigils seem way more forgiving on tomes

[jolly sun]

You don't have to heal sigils

So sigils better than T5 my alt can just keep giving 80 wolfies

[vast dome]

You did right researching sigils. Sigils are much more important than t5 especially if your guild takes WOW seriously.

[jolly sun]

Not like I wanted to heal a 3rd T5 account anyways

[clever reef]

So close

[stray bear]

We need a familiar that has the ability to give Lucky Tokens for Tycoon.

[quartz relic]

already suggested

[hollow veldt]

What’s the best familiars to put on wall

[clever reef]

Scroll up a bit

[pale harness]

Yo guys
How can i use familiars

[teal jungle]

Some familiars have support skills. Some have battle skills. Some you can awaken and send into battle for army boosts.
It's a big topic

Did you at least unlock the familiar related buildings in skirmish 8?

[pale harness]

Yes

And i have 6 or 7 monsters

[teal jungle]

Firstly, don't use them yet. You just need to level them up. Which means merging the pacts in spire, and training them in the gym.
Don't waste and runes on upgrading their skills until they are lv60, only use fragments for that. Don't use any orbs to awaken them yet. Wait until you study the topic more to know what you're doing.

The majority of familiar skills are passive. You get their boosts automatically without doing anything.

Some have a support skill that you can activate on a timer (like noceros for example let's you instant gather a full RSS tile - up to 5 tiles in one instant, some give free troops, there's one that refreshes the cargo ship, instant complete an essence, stuff like that.) Read through the skills in all of them and see what ones you want to focus on first.
Then some have attack skills like pyris which can send a small attack at an enemy castle without you going into fury and will kill the enemy troops even under a shield (only kills a small number of lowest tier troops, don't get too excited - but there's also grim reaper which kills highest tier troops including T5, but it costs ~180k gems worth of chaos core so don't get too excited)

Then there's battle skills which you need to use red or yellow orbs to awaken. Then you add the familiars to your attacking army. But that's later stage in the game and don't rush it lest you waste precious orbs

[open sand]

[toxic atlas]

You type all that or do you use the microphone?

[teal jungle]

I typed it

Brevity is not my forte

[open sand]

Li's sister

[clever reef]

Thank you for proving my point

!!*

[open sand]

[teal jungle]

Oi! No need for personal attacks!!

😜

[open sand]

[pale harness]

Tnx bro👍👍

[clever reef]

Maxed out Evil Weevil army talent today

[past drift]

what abt advanced wonder battlles

[distant sluice]

Hi all, need a help please 😉 who is good for training ?? Thank you a lot

[open sand]

70k tomes

[opal notch]

Do evil weevil next

[distant sluice]

@opal notch thank you 😉

[outer scroll]

Always worth doing

[limber robin]

nice yeti

[open sand]

Side ways screenshots

[weak jackal]

Is this familiar talent good for solo trap for defending

[opal notch]

Yes. Weevil and aquiris are good on wall

[weak jackal]

Ok thx

[lean halo]

If you have only one Familiar battle slot, go for weevil over aquiris

[limber robin]

on a solo trap, is it a good idea to go for pact 4 research

or will might be too much?

[plain void]

Too much might bro

Go for crabby first

Well how much might are we looking at?

Before I give suggestions

[limber robin]

it's hypothetical currently, since im not even close to a full trap

[plain void]

I won't make fun of any might or anything

[limber robin]

well rn im at 43 mil

[plain void]

Ok well what kind of trap you want to be?

[limber robin]

solo

t2 t3, i think inf frontline

[plain void]

Ok does anyone in your k have t4?

Or 5?

[limber robin]

some dude had 1.8 bil or smth but left

i cant tell if they have t5

[plain void]

The guy in first probably does

[limber robin]

second place

[plain void]

That a kind of big k to be making a trap in bro

[limber robin]

it's not that big

[bleak crescent]

Those artifacts are crazy.. kills.. not really.

[limber robin]

pretty dead kingdom

[plain void]

Oh shoot, only 1M mills?

[bleak crescent]

How many days old is it?

[limber robin]

uhhhh

restriction ends in 60 days

[bleak crescent]

I got ok gear according to that kingdom?

[plain void]

Pretty old if it has 800m might

[limber robin]

honestly good gear

[plain void]

Can I have a shot of your account?

[limber robin]

jewels though

[bleak crescent]

Well, it's an old screenshot.

[plain void]

I hate grinding jewels

[bleak crescent]

Shot?

[plain void]

That's really good bro

[bleak crescent]

Oh, nvm.. I thought you were asking me.

[limber robin]

my main reason for asking that question is because of hoarder, those jewels looking nutty

[plain void]

Screen shot bro

[bleak crescent]

Thanks. The non-gold ones are all purple.

[limber robin]

still better than mine 👍

[bleak crescent]

I am 100% F2P..

Guess my troop count...

[limber robin]

how old is your account?

[plain void]

I would get burning scrolls

[bleak crescent]

4-5 years.

[limber robin]

oh uh goddamn

[plain void]

12M

[limber robin]

i have like 35 brains bro

[bleak crescent]

The winner gets free rss once I come back to it.

[plain void]

Was i close ?

[bleak crescent]

35 gold? O.o

[limber robin]

no no no no common

[plain void]

Hahaha

[bleak crescent]

Nope.

[plain void]

More or less?

[bleak crescent]

Panic, do your guess and I will reveal.

[limber robin]

9M

[bleak crescent]

0

[limber robin]

huh

[bleak crescent]

Yeah, 0 troops. I haven't been playing on that account for like 2-3 months now.

[limber robin]

zeroed?

[plain void]

0? What

You have a bigger one?

[bleak crescent]

Well, I did it willingly, yeah.. I had like 1M before taking break and let my friend have the kills.

[limber robin]

bruh

[bleak crescent]

Never had anything above 5-6M.

[plain void]

I have 1.5M

[limber robin]

why's your might so high then?

[bleak crescent]

2M most of the time(350-400K each T4 and T2).

[bleak crescent]

Research.

[plain void]

[limber robin]

goddamn bruh

[bleak crescent]

I liked to take solos.

[limber robin]

my might count looking a lil messed up

[bleak crescent]

If rallied, I could easily hide and let the other side waste carps.

Easy to join war rallies too.

[limber robin]

so back to the question, how good is hoarder?

[plain void]

Idk

[bleak crescent]

@limber robin The compo I had before taking the break... https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/588676157554032642/960023526356697148/Screenshot_20220403-092017_Lords_Mobile.jpg

@plain void

[limber robin]

your comp worries me

[bleak crescent]

This was during KvK.

Those T1s are from extravaganza training and here I was in farming talents.

The attacker couldn't burn me...

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/588676157554032642/960023563748917308/Screenshot_20220403-092003_Lords_Mobile.jpg

[limber robin]

so i guess hoarder is shit?

[plain void]

My beautiful t3

[limber robin]

why so much t3

why so much siege

[remote root]

It's free, you'll have it maxxed soon

[bleak crescent]

No, it can be good at times.

[open sand]

Hoarder is far from shit

[limber robin]

that's what i thought

[limber robin]

which one's best for solo trap, aquiris, weevil, trickstar, or sorcerer?

[opal notch]

Aquiris and weevil

[limber robin]

👍

[lean halo]

If you need only one of those and you're a range front... being a solo trap, I'd recommend sorcerer and weevil. If it's 100% that your sorcerer will always activate it's skill then sorcerer could be better than weevil assuming that p5 fams damage isn't massive on solos.

[limber robin]

i see, thanks

[edgy wing]

Any suggestions for f2p player which army talents to awake?

[teal jungle]

Evil weevil, aquiris. Gryphon for yellow orbs.

[edgy wing]

Thanks

[forest frigate]

[bold nacelle]

How do I get the f2p familiars

[frozen hill]

How much effort is it to max hoarder ? Similar to pyris ?

[clever reef]

You get them by making pacts

[clever reef]

Pyris is rarity 3, Hoarder is rarity 4. It will take longer.

Took me months to max out my hell drider (rarity 5)

[frozen hill]

Sounds logical. Idk why i asked. Thank you

[bold nacelle]

What are the best f2p familiars

[rain bluff]

All of them

For various purposes

Trickstar is best for holy stars

Beastmaster is the best for supply speed

[sage bane]

Gemming gremlin best for gems

[viral otter]

Should i make my first pact 2 army talent or focus on more pact 1 army talent

[bold nacelle]

For war

@rain bluff @viral otter @sage bane @clever reef

[sage bane]

Don't ping me

[bold nacelle]

Sorry didn't mean to annoy

[opal notch]

Work on evil weevil or aquiris first

[bold nacelle]

Thanks

<3

[viral otter]

Im working on weevil since rn

[dusky vortex]

My pact merging is all done. Now switching to more gyms. How many should I make?

And should I train only 1 fam at a time or more?

[jolly sun]

I mean your pact merging isn't really done till you get all fam skills lvl10

But if you want to focus on training and don't have a lot of p2p heroes than 3 gyms 1 spire rest springs works

If you got p2p heroes you can do 4 gyms

[dusky vortex]

All f2p heroes.

And yeah .I'll still merge pacts but earlier I am on 1 gym,1 spire rest all springs for extra merging speed. Now I don't want all those merging speed. So want to know a good combination

[jolly sun]

Well 3 gyms is the way to go in my option

If you got most p2p heros than 4 make sense that's what I did on my lead accounts

[dusky vortex]

If 3 gyms then train 3 fam at a time?

[clever reef]

Yes, but you lose out on the merging speed. 1-2 gyms is better. Some like to split up the training evenly

But if all you wanna do is train, go for it

[dusky vortex]

But why do I care about merging speed now?

[jolly sun]

Guy with appropriate advice after definitely reading the question as always lol

[teal jungle]

More gyms doesn't reduce the speed, it spreads it out.

And yes, 3 gyms means you train 3 fams at a time, but for 1/3 the length of time.

[dusky vortex]

My these fams are maxed pretty much

[jolly sun]

Extra gyms get you more exp bonus

[dusky vortex]

And these are the runes of familiars which need to be maxed

[teal jungle]

I run 3 gyms. It balances nicely. My heroes fit in evenly, I get good training time and optimised exp without sacrificing Springs.

You don't need more than one spire, unless you aren't logging in every day to restart another batch

Some people might want 2 spires in the early days when merging lower tier pacts because they're short and it's a lot of down time

[opal notch]

I assume you still need fragments.. 2 or 3 gyms is ok.

[dusky vortex]

Yeah. Made 3

Should train 3 fam inside or 1?

[opal notch]

3 of course.

If you only train one fam, then what are the other gyms doing lol

[teal jungle]

Just try to balance the heroes in each gym so the training time are roughly equal. There's no in game benefit, it just reduces the amount of times you have to go and restart training and minimises downtime

[dusky vortex]

It does give benifit

15k total exp if I use 3 fam in 1d. And only about 11k in 1d 4hr if I use all heroes on 1 fam

[opal notch]

Personally I train 2 fams at once. All heroes assigned to one major fam while I train one passively

[clever reef]

Same

[open sand]

I do 1 fam at a time because they are t5 fam and they're a ball ache otherwise

[plain void]

How many buildings of each? Just unlocked familiar buildings

[agile yarrow]

What level (army talent) does the p5 familiars (Bon, Huey, Blackwing, Gargantua) become better than having the stackers familars (Goblin, Trickstar, etcc..) in your attack line up? It will be awhile before i can get Max army talent on the p5 familiars.

[tall ledge]

What are the ideal f2p familiars for the wall? Currently have 4 slots available.

[open sand]

Why not both?

[open sand]

Evil weevil
Aquaris
Then familiars that help your front line like a inf wedge can be,

Engineer
Gnome

[open sand]

Here's my layout for example

[frozen hill]

Gimme some gold

[jolly sun]

that's mine but I don't rly need to lvl fams much it's mostly to get me anima for skillstones

[quartz relic]

im running this

[remote root]

How do you not turn off the quest alerts

[clever reef]

Chu recently reinstalled, probably just to take a screenshot. So hasn't bothered

[tribal hazel]

Are the p3 familiars the first you should go for?

[tribal hazel]

Food hyper I see lol

[opal notch]

First familiars you should work on are.your wall fams... i.e weevil and aquiris first

[urban maple]

same as mine its pretty good if u merge higher pacts like 3-4 but for lower pacts i used to have atleast 2 towers

[lapis needle]

How many bright orbs does it take to max a p2p fam and is it cheaper to get em in one run or to buy them over time?

[clever reef]

#👾┊familiars message

[teal jungle]

You mean the yellow orbs for P2P fams? Those are brilliant talent orbs. The Red ones for f2p fams are bright talent orbs. So your question is slightly confusing

But if you mean for the p5 familiars (Huey, Bon, Bee, Blackwing, Garg etc) it's 1800 brilliant orbs. You can't buy them all in one go because the pack that sells them is 20-50 and that's it. That are linear though - you get 100 brilliant orbs in the 20 pack and 250 in the 50 pack so you don't lose value buying both on the same day.
But there's no way around it taking time. Not sure how often that pack comes, maybe a couple of times per week... It also has tomes but I have to admit I didn't pay loads of attention to the one

[lapis needle]

Yea I meant the brilliant orbs my bad and it’s $20 for 100?!?! I can’t afford that lol. I’ve gotten all the pacts over time from tycoon but no shot I’m spending $360 for a familiar

[teal jungle]

Yeah it's taken me over two years of grinding every yellow orb hell f2p and getting them in every exchange, bargain store etc that I have enough to max one p5.

Getting the pacts from Tycoon is the easy part 😂

Even though you meant brilliant orbs, you asked in a couple channels if the bright orbs (red orbs) pack goes linearly up to 100... I also don't know the answer to that because I never bought it. Red orbs are easy enough to slowly collect from hells

[lapis needle]

Jeez that’s a yikes. May not be getting bon appeti lol

[teal jungle]

If you can focus on the brilliant orbs in events and swing to subsidize it a little with a few packs, having a p5 fam in your lineup will be the single biggest boost you can give yourself

My guildmate with p5 fams does stuff for laughs, like running dn5 with t1 only - he can beat them pretty easy, but for DN6 needs T2... We run the T1 only DN6 and all the wall doesn't go down, but troops die just from the familiar skills 😂 it's really funny losing the dn when we didn't lose any troops and all of its troops are dead... Just that wall. But it's a testament to the power of p5 fams

[clever reef]

Saberfang or noceros to elder next? currently between 26-29 but can't decide.
Will be finishing Gryphon to 60 this weekend

[teal jungle]

Is being able to gather tiles instantly more important to you or easy killing higher level monsters?

[clever reef]

Saberfang it is

[fast lily]

How do you get the things to craft skillstones

[jolly sun]

You can gem them , get them from hell event rewards , buy a pack for them , get them from tycoon

[edgy folio]

🥰

[drifting verge]

Nice 👍

[frozen zephyr]

Familiars are good and have good uses

[open sand]

[frozen zephyr]

Yep mate

[proper sedge]

Territe Ruins impossible to get? I have spent a week trying to get Ruins and I have 7 at the moment. WTF

[frozen zephyr]

Get aquiris and evil weevil

Then go for stacking and gryphon

After you finish those can go for p5/shield fams

[jolly sun]

[open sand]

Noceros to troll with "in a flash" or tidal titan to move someone's castle away

[clever reef]

Saw someone troll a player in another guild by racing to a lvl5 tile earlier and immediately collecting it

[teal jungle]

It's funnier if you noceros trap

[timid grotto]

Send load please 🥺

[open sand]

What?

[iron turret]

Join me and we'll receive free gifts for completing quest's and becoming friends

[open sand]

What's lordsmobile

[rugged ice]

[plain void]

?warn 976810504670560318 no referral links allowed

[clear basin]

Berrylishis#1951 has been warned. || no referral links allowed

[clever reef]

I just got 4-5 x2 bonuses in a row when using fragments on Gryphon's first skill. What are the odds of that?

[tender portal]

🇪🇬

[tight sandal]

?warn @tender portal stop spamming

[clear basin]

MOSTAFA007#1232 has been warned. || stop spamming

[tender portal]

Sorry

[clever reef]

Are you spreading your heroes across all of your familiars, or focusing them all on one?

[teal jungle]

Training is slow. There's no real way around that. You can buy Exp potions and boost them very quickly

[plain void]

Focusing on one familiar just started c17

[frozen zephyr]

Just have to be patient then, it takes time:)

[clever reef]

You only need 1-2 gyms. The rest should be springs to make anima for pacts, and to speed up merging.

[frozen zephyr]

As well as upgrading familiar gear

[proven swallow]

😋 😫

[clever reef]

What's wrong?

[wise cypress]

1 question
i am c16 and i got atttacked by a fam but shouldn't there be a ward bc. i canot see it

and yes i have unlocked the fam and the labs

[frozen zephyr]

The ward activates after your castle gets hit by a certain amount of familiars

[lapis needle]

Anyone know how many Pyris hits it takes to activate the ward? Wondering how much t1 I need to keep

[teal jungle]

16 pyris

Assuming maximum hits and a little bad luck, 200k T1 is enough to cover you.

[spring agate]

No…. I do not think it is 16. We must take ward depreciation in account so I feel it has got to be at least 20?

I got pyris before but i notice the rate of depreciation

Then again, it’s got to take an immense amount of dislike to warrant 20-30+ people to throw the pyris on your turf right?

[teal jungle]

It's 16.

[spring agate]

No i still do not think its 16 unless the person got 16 pyris at the same time

[teal jungle]

That was the question. How many hits does it take to activate the ward.
16.

[hollow marten]

It's 16... Or in the case of "ward depreciation"... infinite of pyris!

[spring agate]

Now this answer i can accept

[hollow marten]

But it's still 16

[spring agate]

All it takes is just one guy at a time every 30 minutes and the ward will never pop up ever

[teal jungle]

It's 6 hours for the ward to depreciate. More with research, up to 8 hours.
It takes 16 hits to activate the ward

[spring agate]

I see. 8 hours

I would invest in familiar ward but im a nice person so i dont think i will get hit at all ^^

[teal jungle]

Someone asked a very simple, very straightforward question with a very simple factual answer that has no room for debate.
16.

You're arguing how the might play out in your own limited personal situation without actually knowing what you're talking about.

Depreciation is irrelevant to the question.

[spring agate]

Whoa why are you angry 😮

Im just pitching in

[teal jungle]

Now you're assuming I'm angry. Why would you do that¿

[teal jungle]

No, you're guessing. You don't know the answer.

[spring agate]

Ok well i know who not to talk to hehe

Sorry.

[teal jungle]

This would be like someone asking how far is it from point a to point b, and getting the answer "16 kilometres". And then you come in and say "well I've never been all the way to point b, but if you stop at Starbucks on the way and circle back, it could be infinite"

[spring agate]

I see I see… but the truth is i have never seen people throw 16+ pyris on someone before….

[teal jungle]

My guild has pyrised 3 castles into Ward just this week alone

[spring agate]

Except on baron/emperor where i looksee since im too low might

[teal jungle]

Yes. The truth is, you don't know the answer, you're guessing, and using your limited knowledge to argue with two different people who do know the answer as a fact.

[spring agate]

Even then… i dont think i ever saw 16 pyris. Either a mix of maggots and pyris and others throwing frostwing and bee before they got full ward

[teal jungle]

We don't even need to be angry - if we find a Castle with no T1/T2 and it's directly to a T4 pyris... You bet it's a race to get those familiar hits in before the ward is up.

[spring agate]

I’ve never seen a castle that only build T4 without T1-3

[teal jungle]

400k might drops from pyris is sexy. Plus you can totally zero them

[teal jungle]

It's the kind of thing that happens when you rally someone but they shield after the 3rd hit. Or you zero someone completely and then wait a couple days till they healed infirms and pulled some out of sanc. Especially now with the new update where higher tier troops prioritise infirms and sanctuary 😈

End of the day (funnily it was also the beginning): the answer is still 16

[spring agate]

I thought its the kind of thing you must send after someone tilehit or steal your monster

I seee

[teal jungle]

Sure that too

But if someone is stupid enough to steal my Monster and I pyris them, and it hits higher than T1, you can guarantee that person is getting their Ward up in a matter of minutes, and if they don't relocate, possibly pyrised to death every 6 hours

No one would be dumb enough to hit my tile

[spring agate]

But what if the person is rich enough not to care and is smart to make t1 ready for pyris hits, should we grim then? But its expensive

What will be your recommendations on using grim reaper?

[teal jungle]

I will grim if it's appropriate

Don't waste it if it's less than lv10 because the cost is the same no matter what level. Don't waste it on T4 troops. If someone has T5 left and shields, that's appropriate.

[spring agate]

Hmmm interesting take. I guess i will hide my t5 to counter a grim attack if ever there’s any 🙂

[teal jungle]

There are people in my kingdom who do, in fact, hide their T5 in case they get reaper bombardment

[spring agate]

I can hide them by just holding from ever using my gears unless needed

And shelter all remaining T5

[frozen zephyr]

Don’t anyone a reason to reaper you lol

[toxic atlas]

@spring agate is it an animation? Your name

[clever reef]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-feet-penguins-dance-sync-gif-8070954

[opal notch]

Yeah it's an animated movie

[lean halo]

Hey, isn't my wall better with trickstar rather than aquiris? When attacking,atk is usually considered more and HP has a little value,thus reducing the Invader's
Army HP by 15% won't do anything much. On the other hand, I can get upto 200% range atk when 400k of my t2 range troops are wounded. I'm pretty sure on range Vs range I'll get atleast 200k t2 range wounded so the atk would be massive.

[opal notch]

You already have sorcerer or your wall. Might as well go ahead and have trickstar there also if sorcerer works alright

But you do know that if trickstar activates a second or third time, you're in danger of burning lol

[lean halo]

So far can activate twice. With t2 range introduced in my frontline I haven't tried testing against strong accounts. But 760% inf did a 440k damage to T2 range with my fake gear on.

[frozen zephyr]

Stacking familiars are better with lower comp

[lapis needle]

I'd say it depends on how beefy your comp is @lean halo, if you have a smaller comp and the trickstar will actually go off relatively quickly so that your troops get the increased dmg then it's better but if not then I'd keep aquiris. Even if the trickstar does go off you have to make sure your range actually gets some dmg in with it, not just that it went off, so it needs to go off pretty early in the fight

[lean halo]

For my comp if 180k t2 range are wounded, the trickster will activate once. So it's good with my comp

Before my infirms are full, it shall have activated 3-4 times depending on how re-culculation works. I have a 1.8M troops range front.

I'm building a trap that has higher research than other traps and fewer troops. Ofcourse I'm working on stats too

[lapis needle]

Yea it might work. You're going to need absolutely insane stats though to only have 1.8m t2 range, a lot of big accounts just have too much max hp for you to cap with that

[lean halo]

I'm at almost 1m t4 range and 800k t2 range

[lapis needle]

Ah ok I thought it was all t2

[distant sluice]

Hi all, what is good from pack 1a and 1b ??? From 1b it looks like aquarius, and from 1a territe, donI have build yhem up or is there others better ?? Thank you

[dusky vortex]

If new account yes those 2 are better in pact 1a and1b

[frozen zephyr]

Go for aquiris & evil weevil which are good for defense and cheaper to upgrade with orbs. Then go for gryphon and stacking fams

[dusky vortex]

What about the 40% hp reducing ones

Put that trio on wall and you don't even need acquiris then

[serene hull]

And use up 3 familiar slots instead of 1?

[dusky vortex]

In defense stacking and gryphon also work less effectively

The combo I'm using on my wall is acquiris,evil weevil,and one of the 40%

But that 40% one sometimes go to waste

[jade anchor]

🤩

[opal notch]

For four slots, personally I'd use weevil, and the 40% reducers, but that's just my opinion

Three slots, I'd do weevil, aquiris and a 15% attk one

[jolly sun]

I did this on my 3 slot alt but that's for a range front party trap so I have a strong need to debuff inf lol

[opal notch]

Yh that works since you won't swap fronts

[frozen zephyr]

Looks good

[frozen hill]

What would the 15% be ?

Wich ones i mean

[opal notch]

Yeti for cav, gnome for range and engineer for inf

Basically, use the one that boosts your Frontline... So gnome or engineer are good choices. Yeti is meh since you won't sit in cav front by default

[frozen hill]

Alright, thank you :)

[frozen hill]

And thanks for the detailed awnser as always. All the help is really appreciated

[opal notch]

[manic sky]

Finally got it

[rotund gale]

So would that 40% inf debuff be worth on a solo trap too? Sit in Range wedge most of the time

[plain void]

yes

[rotund gale]

I mean is the might gained for unlocking Slot 3 worth the 40% debuff or would just Aquaris and weevil suffice

[plain void]

the might gain isnt gonna matter

people rally 400mm now

not even scared

hell they even rallied me when im 950mm

[rotund gale]

I’m a solo trap

[plain void]

oh

how much might do you have

[rotund gale]

Already at 171m with full comp and all research done

[plain void]

how much troops?

[rotund gale]

7.3m

[plain void]

yeaaaaaah stay with evil and aquiris

[rotund gale]

Alrighty thank you

[plain void]

but if you do upgrade it to become a rally trap get the 40% debuff fam

[opal notch]

They solo up to 300m in some kds lol

[jolly sun]

If it's kvk and you have low kills 450m might I'm still down to solo (if in wonder next to a fort) lol

[clear hound]

Hmm so i can bait you

[lean halo]

Nowadays, 220m solo traps are called "lil traps" by big guilds in Titan kingdoms.

[lean halo]

It's "worth it" but sorcerer is way better than the 40% debuff if you're in range wedge. I did test it by myself, with both of them maxed, in range wedge and against inf. Moreover sorcerer can activate on any attack while teraspike only on inf attacks.

[rotund gale]

Isn’t sorcerer good for small comps? Or something

[lean halo]

My current familiar set up. Reducing attackers HP isn't in any of my key interests. Got rid of aquiris and teraspike. But I tested it and the damage I get is way less compared to teraspike and aquiris

[lean halo]

7m troops is a small comp. Unless you trap In weak kingdoms

I'm a solo trap too

[rotund gale]

I have 8m now. 2.5m range front. They’d have to do 250k dmg to activate then right?

[lean halo]

Yeah

[rotund gale]

Kingdom I’m in now is dead I can sleep without shield

[lean halo]

Lol

I have 1.8m range front. They activate when 180k are wounded

T4/t2

[rotund gale]

I want to build T4 but so expensive to heal

[lean halo]

I once had a pure 1m t4 front. So expensive to heal that I trained 800k t2 range and it works well

My bags were always below 200m each RSS. A month later after I made the change and my bags are at 600m each

[rotund gale]

Oh wow I might consider that then

I’m pre 60 and my stats are low

[lean halo]

Btw, you have t4?

[rotund gale]

Not unlocked too much might for now

[lean halo]

Oh, but it's worth it, you also get basically+96% hp and Def for each troop type and 48% atk

[rotund gale]

That’s from the army research?

[lean halo]

Army research combined with troop research. For example Lvl 10 army HP + lvl 10 inf HP

[rotund gale]

My old trap look at might difference. The updates to the game have made it so you have to have a very beefy comp if T3/T2

[rotund gale]

Ahhhhh gotcha

[edgy wave]

Whats the point. The wealthy players dont even have to fight you. Just slaughter up to 50k t5 every 30 minutes with the grim reaper

Or even better killer bee attacks over and over every 30 minutes putting 10,000 troops in the infirmary every 10 minutes for 4 hours if they attack every 30 minutes for that 4 hours they can be putting 80,000 troops in the hospital every 10 minutes. Who can afford this?

[jolly sun]

The bee effects won't stack

And you can just hide your T5 unless you're a fatass yourself the deal on grim into T4 is horrible value on gems

[edgy wave]

So every 30 minutes you lose your highest tier up to 50k. If your shielded the ward metter jumps to 28 (needs to be 480 to help at all) and 30 minutes later is zero for the next attack. So zero help. And you just get to set there. Without a fight and buy t5, t4. T3, whatever troops up to 50k every 30 minutes. And at the same time heal 10,000 random tropps every 10 minutes for 4 hours, rinse and repeat. Its a better investment to just take a 100 out of the atm daily and burn it

[opal notch]

You ignored the fact that grim and bee cost a lot of gems to use... You can kill more troops from solos that you can with grim and bee

[edgy wave]

I didnt ignore anything. You can kill t2 meat shield primarily solos snd rallies. Most often unless off they shield before you get to the good stuff. We all primarily hold the t5s out of solos. Only using them for select rallies due to the cost Some of these groups have $10k, $100k bases i think they will be to stop rallying and building troops and just kill your t5s first

How much is the huge cost of those skill stones? They can make 10 for a 4.99 pack? I think they can handle that

[dusky vortex]

But they use skillstones on bunny,frostwing,blackwing,trojan etc

So they always lack skillstones

[edgy wave]

Oh. So they buy the 19.99 pack after that. Then the 49.99 pack

Only 2 of those familiars have a valuable skill to use it on.

Bon apetite up to 100,000,000 of each rss no defense. Up to 50k expensive dead troops. 10,000 infirmary troops. No competition. No defense. Just spend more money

I haveva billion powered base in a young kingdom spending 40 to 60 a day to compete and war and talk smack and have fun. I get nothing in return for this bs

[jolly sun]

The cost for one grim hit is about 25$

[edgy wave]

Thr size of my base wasnt the point. I know many are bigger and stronger. My point was im not an f2p player complaining. Im putting money in. But when there is no competition whats the point

[jolly sun]

The pack with chaos cores scales very badly so after 20$ one you're better off using your gems on chaos cores instead of getting the pack

[jolly sun]

You're complaining about something that literally never happens to keep up the familiars for 24h the person hitting you would have to put around 1300-1400$ for the skillstones

I don't know how badly you'd have to piss someone off for something like this even the most high end spenders don't dump those amounts of money

On just hitting someone with familiars

[edgy wave]

Well i do talk some smack. But its mostly when you stand up the the wealthy bullies of the kingdom and they can no longer take in your base. They resort to this

[jolly sun]

You can ask your guild to pyris you or hit you with maggot in a case like this and just get your ward up for the price of some T1 if someone will love you enough to cycle grims lol

[edgy wave]

So the pack for me is 4.99. The bully guild is from china so it costs them $2.49. I dont get to the $20 option until after the 4.99 option. So im not sure how your pricing is set

[jolly sun]

Pack gives you 5 chaos cores for 5$ and 15 for 20$ and 25 for 50$

You need 24 cores to use one grim skill

[jolly sun]

it's a wee bit pricey lol

bee is half that but still

[jolly sun]

you can also gem them that's what most leads me included end up doing to have their bunnies and blackwings ready whenever necessary

[open sand]

Can't say I've ever been worried about being zeroed by bee or grim

[teal jungle]

I have never ever seen anyone who says "I do talk some smack" and it turns out they just had a little light hearted banter.

It's always the people who relentlessly bully and abuse in kingdom chat, usually from the safety of under a shield and from behind their keyboard.

If you "talked some smack" enough to make people spend literally thousands of dollars on wasted cores, you probably need therapy.
And probably some more insight into how much those reaper hits cost because it's 180k gems per hit and people don't throw those lightly.

[jolly sun]

that's one way to put it lol

[edgy wave]

Well i dont get on global and talk as a general. I get on when the bullies get completely crazy and finally tell them ok lets do it. I seldomly talk any smack until im at that every 4 to six weeks. Bullies dont like when you punch them in the nose. They do crazy crap to get at you after that. Cant dtand for anyone to stand up to them. My smack is more along the lines of stop tearing the kingdom apart bullying folks tearing us down until we cant even compete as a kingdom for kvk

But thanks for the cost info. I was unaware it took that many cores

[teal jungle]

It's a war game. If you play the game and fight, and win using game mechanics: you're good at the game.
If your method of "fighting" is to get in KC and throw verbal abuse at people: you're a bully.

[edgy wave]

Well since i dont do that im not one. The people thst move to a smaller kingdom. Tear the kingdom apart attacking the people in the kingdom but dont help during kvk just because they get stuff for half price are the bullies

But its good that you would jump to that assumption

[teal jungle]

If I zero a big Castle (which my guild does, most days) and they come on and mail us something like "good game, guess today wasn't my day, I'll rebuild lol" then we're likely to execute the leader right away and give them chief.

When we zero someone and they make it their life's purpose to start harassing and making endless personal attacks and hate speech in KC, spamming dip board, mailing stuff that gets mostly sensored... Yeah we will remember that and make a special bookmark on their hive and show no Mercy to burn everyone who is friends with them. They'll never know peace

If you're in the USA, you already get packs at a much cheaper rate than most countries. Please be informed before you go shooting your mouth

[edgy wave]

My point before you try to turn this to an attack on me is that its bs to kill t5s without so much as a fight. Thats not strategy. Not competition its just pissing money.

[teal jungle]

You're the one who said you "talk smack" in KC and get reapered for it.

And yes, a lot of this game comes down to who spent the most. But I very much enjoy being better at the game and beating out people who very obviously spent way more than me. Because there is strategy and skill involved. Taking smack in KC is not any part of it

[edgy wave]

Exactly. There you go. Before "i shoot my mouth off" in fact thats are that china sets price for you to do business in their country. Thats a fact. The rest of us work off the open market. Our US cost is no where not anywhere near the low end. Thats why the buying apps thst get discussed have you change a location to finland or china etc. Never ever the US

[teal jungle]

The US cost is much cheaper than most countries m

[edgy wave]

No i did not say i got repeared because i talk smack. I said dont get me wrong i do talk some smack thats not the same

No its not

Take care if your going to rewrite my comments incorrectly and make this an attack on me versus the discussion i started then there is no place for that

[teal jungle]

Packs cost more in Canada, in the EU, in the UK, in Australia, NZ, South Africa... If you adjust for local average wages, buying packs in most developing countries is insanely expensive.

Every $5 pack for the US costs $8 in Australia and there's no option for aptiode or diamond store or Amazon coins etc. A 99.99USD pack is $159.99. everything is 50% more.

The US has cheaper packs. This is a fact

[edgy wave]

The other guild memebrr and i pyrisd fireballed back and forth 2 days. Then suddenly i get 3 repears from the frirnds. I thought the cost was $5 for 1. Yall have corrected my ghinking on that and i appreciate that but no need for the rest

[teal jungle]

I've been playing longer than you and I'm far more experienced in game information and facts.

Just because you're salty and someone told you packs are half price in China (a crappy rumour that persists for so long) doesn't mean that the US still has much cheaper than most countries. It's a fact.

But you're welcome for the new information. Enjoy your cheaper packs 🥰

[jolly sun]

ye my packs are about +10% compared to US if I paid in my countries currency

I pay in usd tho and use diamonds so it ends up same price and some cashback on top of that

[edgy wave]

It is the truth about china. I cant speak to every country and dont try. The ones i have researched which are by all means only 5 or 6 when i research methods to save all speak of claiming origin anywhere but the US. I dont think its because the US is the "cheaper" place. Take care. I have watched vpn used to purchase with china as the origin and the cost was 52.8%

I understand many use the diamonds. I dont i buy from the mall. That might make me a sucker. I dont know

[jolly sun]

I mean I'm getting 20-25% cashback with them depending on what you use the difference might be minimal or even in your favour

[cinder thunder]

It's accurate. Of course the US isn't the cheapest - people making the effort to use a VPN to change location for cheaper packs aren't using the US because there are cheaper, however the USA still has among the cheapest in the game, and certainly much cheaper than most western countries. Even cheaper than Canada, when it should be the same.

People from America shouldn't be complaining, they already have it better than most for packs, and a significantly stronger dollar to start with

[jolly sun]

I live in poland my packs rn with dollar becoming much stronger and no change of price would be about 5,5$ for 5$ pack used to be closer to 6-6,2$ before all the mess with the war in Ukraine that made currency prices jump

but I'm not letting myself get scammed by google play etc and just pay in usd xD

[edgy wave]

I hope you and your loved ones are safe

We have 2 members from serbia and it has drastically crushed their economy

[plain void]

Is this good for a range rein trap? I am working on -40% inf hp as inf counters my front. Aquirius for the -15% army hp. And am going for a last familiar

[hybrid quiver]

depends on your troop count tbh

[serene hull]

What caused y’all to start pyrising each other?

[edgy wave]

They started tile hitting. Hahaha. We returned the favor. When they figured out it was a stalemate we asked them to stop and we both go on our way like responsible folks. Then the fireballs started

We have a strict no tile hitting policy so we hated doing it. Had to vote on doing it. Felt dirty. But if thry change the rules of engagement we had to adjust

[opal notch]

Imagine spending $30 repeatedly just to kill 50k T5... That's worse than shadow sigils on Grey gear lmao

[opal notch]

Depends on how your comp is... But I'd prefer trickster over sorcerer there.

[opal notch]

Someone hit me with Bon once. He destroyed 20m rss in total. Guess it was worth it

[teal jungle]

I got hit with maggot yesterday after I stole someone's ball. But it was only lv3 and I lost a total of 500k food over the hour 😂
So I stole another ball and they reapered me. Also lv3 and I only lost 10k . So I stole another ball and they pyrised me. So I stole another ball... 😂😂😂 They ported away and did something else

[manic sky]

What familiar should I go for after u got trickstar

[grave thicket]

gemming gremlin

[plain void]

Our country is going through an economic crisis, the value of our local currency has depreciated. Now I pay twice of what I paid for last year for every dollar.

A $4.99 pack costs me $9.99 now when compared to last year. It is absurd.