👾┊familiars

[teal jungle]

Exactly. Americans are getting among the cheapest packs globally. But they like to complain because one or two countries have cheaper 🙄

[edgy wave]

All packs should be exactly the same in all countries whrn adjusted for exchange rates

[willow osprey]

Does anyone know from which level of battle skill is T5 fam better than let's say temoestite in offensive mix?

[plain void]

Where do I get more merging speeds from

[clever reef]

Hell events, tycoon, maybe lab. Packs. sometimes there's a 99¢ merging speed pack

[plain void]

Ah yes the pack I meant soz

[wispy gulch]

Hey guy your DP sucks

[grave thicket]

[open sand]

[past drift]

sus

[wispy gulch]

What??

[open sand]

What dp we talking?

[wispy gulch]

@clever reef i am talking about her profile picture

[open sand]

what you mean? All I see is worryfrog guy

[wispy gulch]

I don’t know why but it’s annoying

[wispy gulch]

[remote root]

Should pack prices update hourly or daily?

[pale ore]

What is best f2p ( pack 5 no)familiar for defence when you have 30m + troops, 3 slot have

[teal jungle]

You want a p5 fam recommendation for f2p? Like... Just one?

Assuming that's what you mean, if you're rocking an inf frontline, get bon (also the easiest to get because most people do Tycoon for halos and get bon pacts), if you're focusing a range front try to get Blackwing or bee.

If by "pack 5 no" you meant not p5, then Gryphon, evil weevil and aquiris.

[dusky vortex]

Why gryphon on 30m troops?

He won't want to loose 3m troops just to activate gryphon

Go with this @pale ore .. if you don't know what's coming

And let's suppose if you know that inf rally is coming.. then put acquiris,Evil weevil and tempestite on wall and you're good to go

[pale ore]

No pack 3 , familiar

[dusky vortex]

They aren't pact 3

Pact 1 fams

[pale ore]

I know , 100 % atk increase familiar when 10% troops fall , this is not good ?

[dusky vortex]

See the messages I sent above

[pale ore]

I don't have money , igg pack very expensive ,

[dusky vortex]

I didn't suggested you those fams

[pale ore]

Okey

[teal jungle]

It's difficult to understand what you're asking, which is why I asked for further clarification and gave a few options depending on what you meant

[teal jungle]

But yes, the ones that trigger when x% of your troops fall are not ideal if you have a big comp.

You need to lose 3m troops before it even does anything if you start with 30m

[dusky vortex]

Then why you suggested gryphon

I think he can't understand English much...

[teal jungle]

Honestly, I didn't read the 30m correctly

[dusky vortex]

[teal jungle]

I was too focused on what he meant by pack 5 no

But trying to get clarity on what someone means is important before being definitive

[boreal pebble]

Is it worth having shield familiars on your wall or should you go pure atk fams

[zealous moon]

Depending on your comp and your goal of your account.

[solemn tangle]

Cn u tell me whats best familiar for 13m account (tryin to build solo ) trap . From pacts 1,2

[wanton fjord]

Aquiris and evil weavil are the best and easiest

[plain void]

How many tokens would it take to get P5 to elder From tycoon?

[urban maple]

7.5k-11k i think? assuming u get 2-3 pacts(for 1 fam) in 100 tokens
that amt of tokens will get u 2 p5 fam to elder

226 req to make a p5 elder^

[crisp gazelle]

Yeah but ftp players will really struggle with orbs to upgrade these fams! Kind of a waste of energy

Although the stats are nice regardless

[cinder fiber]

Best Pact 3 familiars? Trickster Gryphon Gremlin?

[clever reef]

+1 on mole shaman though, if you're a fan of Arena not a priority if you haven't done wall research

[cinder fiber]

Not a huge fan of arena and my wall is like a sand castle research wise a small wave would knock it down

[clever reef]

[cinder fiber]

Thanks though! Gonna work towards pact 4 but that’s a bit away 🥹

[inner relic]

Look. It doesn't really matter which pact 3 familiars are the best. You will max all of them until you get to pact 4. Or i am really slow with it.

[brazen dome]

🤩

[cinder fiber]

I mean it does matter what order I do it

[open sand]

3 stacking fams (gemming gremlin, goblin and trickstar) are the ones to focus on. Probably gemming 1st if you want gems or trickstar if you want research speed and holystars

[teal jungle]

They take a lot longer than the lower tier ones. And probably longer than you think. Focus on the important ones first

[cinder fiber]

Ya I’m focusing trickster he has a combat ability at least

[teal jungle]

The ones with combat ability (trickstar, gremlin and goblin) are good to focus. Gryphon too.

P4 fams are mostly the exciting passive skills and boosts, not so much needed for active combat

[cinder fiber]

Ya I’m gonna work towards pact4 but with pact 3 being newly unlocked I might as well work my way to pact 4 for a bit I got some pact5 from packs too I can get Queen Bee to 50 now

[open sand]

No harm in doing the research to pact 4 but getting the 3, pact 3 fams maxed will be more worthwhile In the long run both passively and in combat.

You can also look at fams for passive atk increase like trickstar, mole Shaman and noceros as thier passive provides 10%atk to the respective troop type

[urban maple]

I like Pact3>pact4 so much utility

In pact 3 I think every fam is of value

[frozen zephyr]

Both are good, should finish p3 to elder before starting on p4

[vocal vector]

Pyris is a pain in the ass

Just two ruins left and it won’t give it to me for the third day😤

[ashen axle]

[astral mortar]

Haha swears bro dang!!

[vestal pine]

I'm developing solo trap should I unlock 1 battle slot or 2 as i don't want higher might? Also which fam to use evil for max hp or gryphon for atk% or Aquarius for drownout?

[light lichen]

Can I ask if I can use more than 1 familar skill per day

[toxic atlas]

You can unlock 3 battle slots and you're still good

What is your target total max castle might?

[vestal pine]

I want to keep it below 180m

100m is base might rn, as i did some extra research (monster to be in good guild)

[jolly sun]

core might be a bit too high for a 180m full build

[vestal pine]

Yes as i mentioned i did monster research 9/10 all of them.

[jolly sun]

you'll likely have to end up closer to 200m with full build

if you want to have a comp that doesn't die the moment someone with ok gear solos

[vestal pine]

I'm thinking to get rid of all rss buildings when I'm done with comp. It may reduce some might, already distroyed traps to reduce might but research might what I've already done can't be reduced

[vestal pine]

I'm likely to use 750k t3 each, 1-1.5m t2 each

[jolly sun]

than you die against good gear solos

[vestal pine]

Wha-

[jolly sun]

I've burned a comp like that last kvk and wiped 1,7m of his troops lol

[vestal pine]

So please suggest me good comp

[jolly sun]

you want a t3 frontline

either inf or range

or a t4 t2 comp similar to what you posted

that's what people run nowadays

[vestal pine]

I haven't unlocked t4 yet

It will increase might by a lot

[jolly sun]

the t3 ones are somewhere between 2-3,5m front t3 and 2,5-3m backline t2s

[vestal pine]

Ohh okay thanks, what about rally trap comp?

[jolly sun]

depends what kingdoms you go with it and on gear

with rallies gear makes a huge difference

[vestal pine]

Mix gear is around 480/450/410 inf/rnge/cav

[jolly sun]

rally trap with full reins or no rein ?

[vestal pine]

Troop comp I'm using rn is around 1.9m t4 each 4-6m t2

[jolly sun]

^^that works

[vestal pine]

I take t2 rein sometimes

[jolly sun]

take t4/t5s gonna help much more

your t4 count is still low enough that you don't kill the rally fast

[vestal pine]

Ohhhh i seee

So how much i should have if like i don't have to take rein

[jolly sun]

your comp can take a rally without rein

just if you do take reins it's still at the point where the extra dmg from t4/t5 helps you more than t2

I still take t5 rein with a comp like this lol

[vestal pine]

That's Insane comp lol i would roam shieldless with that

[jolly sun]

I'm shielding this account most of the time

[vestal pine]

Which kingdom?

[jolly sun]

I only have one phone and I hold leads on my lead account so I can't have notifications for the trap

[jolly sun]

any kingdom I go to

[vestal pine]

Ohhh i see

[jolly sun]

it's mainly used to bait small rally parties

[vestal pine]

Same but sometimes i take my brother's device too like during kvk or arena

[jolly sun]

I'm using steam lords and bluestacks + phone to play 3 accounts in dragon arena

[vestal pine]

I must say that rnge frontline is huge!

[jolly sun]

but I'm not gonna get notified from my pc that's turned off

[vestal pine]

I don't have working pc

Sad

[jolly sun]

it's not rly to be honest I had 25m but I took a party and didn't rebuild it

[vestal pine]

Rebuild is boring 🙃

manor infirmary conversions are what i hate the most

[jolly sun]

they suck but rebuilding on this account is where a good chunk of my gear came from since I was never in a rush to rebuild it and always did everything with hells

it's great for restocking energy and getting some mats from chests

[vestal pine]

I too do wait for exchange events and hells

[jolly sun]

well I didn't wait for the exchange etc stuff since building 40m troops takes well over a month just by waiting for troop hells xD

[vestal pine]

Being f2p if i use speedups then I'll be unable to do event

Brb

[jolly sun]

I'm not f2p

[vestal pine]

Yeah i pretty much got idea when you said that not even your main account 🤣

[silver nest]

Which familiar sets is best for range-cav counter

[opal notch]

Can you clarify.. attacking cav with range or defending cav blast with range?

[fossil mountain]

Guienes son

[plain void]

yes

[green jungle]

watcher pact hell

[karmic jay]

R you from kingdom 1010

[open sand]

I'm a p5 fam noob but I understand that 600% fams on wall are the new meta. But at what lvl is it viable to put them on? I have bon lvl 5 which is around 200% dmg. Is that worthwhile over say evil weevil?

[plain void]

how many fam slots do you have?

[uneven notch]

[plain void]

you didnt have to delete that haha

[open sand]

4... 5 in 2 weeks

[uneven notch]

Making room to see the question

[plain void]

how much p5s do you have?

just bon at lvl 5?

[open sand]

Only bon and huey unlocked atm. Bon is highest at lvl 5

[plain void]

evil weevil aquiris hp debuff and bon

thats 4

lvl 5 is good enough

[open sand]

lemme show wall.

[plain void]

dammit people keep calling me

are you a range front?

try cav hp debuff familiar instead of that 15%

@plucky wind

@plucky wind stop calling me

[open sand]

I kept the 15% in case I changed formation to counter

[plain void]

oh you need weevil in there too

[open sand]

I'll put when I get lvl 5 slot. Just need more technos for last 2 lvl 9s

[plain void]

ahh ok then that should be fine

[open sand]

ty nami. I'll delete my formation... just in case

[plain void]

go ahead

this is what i have

i dont have good fams haha

plus i dont have much troops

[open sand]

You have garg though

[plain void]

mhm

not maxed

[open sand]

Still, bon is easiest because halo tycoon but garg and blackwing are tough

[plain void]

blackwing very tough

[open sand]

only have 25 medals

[plain void]

mines blue lol

3/200

[crisp meteor]

do tycoon folks

[willow osprey]

Depends instead what fam. And honestly you will have to try it. For example I switched bon for Tempestite at lvl7 - test on DN was in favour of bon. Have no idea how it is with different fams though.

And don't laugh at my heroes, one can't simply buy everything at once

[open sand]

I have no p2p heros either

[copper grove]

Hello, I heave all fams p2p and f2p maxed. With fams are best at wall? Thanks.

[tardy birch]

can change according to the front you are using

[open sand]

If you have them all then I suggest watching aevatrex video on wall familiars (most recent one)

[clear hound]

Pact 5 bon is supposed to hit largest squad right?

[teal jungle]

"one of" the largest

Some rng in there

[clear hound]

[next surge]

does anyone have table of familiar exp required for pack 4 fams?

pinned one doesnt work

[shy mirage]

@next surge this

[pale ore]

He usefull familiar in defence or use other

[cosmic quarry]

Use others. It takes a few seconds for the battle to even start… it’s a waste

[young crypt]

It can work, but you will be requiring garrison every time to take out the buffers in enemy march.

[brazen dome]

Mines nata blue eyes

[plain void]

Is Aquaris’s army talent still viable for a solo trap? Doesn’t seem to be worth the red orb investment

Mind that I will be in range wedge all the time so what are the other options

[hollow marten]

If you're running a specific front you may be better off with the familiar that boosts that troop type HP

If you're going to end up turning the solo trap into a rally trap, when the kills get too high you will probably want Aquiris anyway.

I'm running Aquiris / Evil Weevil / Trickstar on the nasty little solo trap I just made.

I think it's probably the best way to go unless you're going to invest in pushing for pact 5s immediately.

[plain void]

Do you run T4/T2?

[hollow marten]

T3/T2

[plain void]

I’m aiming for a smaller comp, was thinking about adding sorcerer into the mix instead of Aquarius. Since with both trickstar and sorcerer 10% of range troops must fall for their battle ability to activate. Would make sense going for T4 range front as id have to take less losses before it activates

To make up for the expensive healing I’ll have some T2 range at my front to lessen the heal bill

[hollow marten]

Yeah it would work well. The only thing I don't like about it is that it only lasts 10 seconds.

[young crypt]

Aquaris is good option for solo trap/rally trap/rein-trap, whatever other traps there is.

[thin badge]

what r the best f2p familiars for solo trap

[mellow flicker]

The ones said above are the best f2p familiars for a solo trap

[teal jungle]

But I don't want to read the comment directly above me that answers the question. I want someone to spoon feed it to me

[brazen dome]

Hmmm

[plain void]

?warn @komorniczek This is a no chat channel.

?warn Fission [The Chosen One] This is a no chat channel

[grave thicket]

what are you trying to do?

[tardy birch]

warn a mod..

[grave thicket]

i might not have the braincells for that joke or i might have too much, depends how you look at it. the joke being him trying to warn btw

[tardy birch]

a joke

[gritty wedge]

Nice

[plain void]

Admins pls if you can see my chat dm I me pls

[tight sandal]

Stop spamming

[sage cave]

Whats the best fams for wall? Or defense fams

[errant dome]

mole

[opal notch]

I assume that means familiars to have on your wall.
Depends on how many fam slots you have unlocked.. if you have one or two slots, then aquiris and evil weevil are the first to aim for.
If you have 3 slots, you can do aquiris, weevil and a +15% one that boosts your Frontline or a -40% troop hp..
Stacking fams are generally bad to have on wall, but they work some times depending on comp.
Gryphon is bad to have on wall.
The 600% p5 fams are also good on wall

[sage cave]

I currently have 3 slots but i just need to buy tomes for my fourth and then research it, So would i do another -40 hp fam in that fourth slot?

[sage cave]

@opal notch

First two are lvl 10 third is lvl 9

[opal notch]

Personally, for four slots, I go for weevil, and the three -40% hp fams

[sage cave]

okay, i will start maxing the other two -40%

[shy mirage]

Need help deciding whether the increase inf/rng/cav hp is better than the shield familiars to add to a march

[distant sluice]

Hi all, please help me a bit 😉
Which familiars are best for make them elder from packs 1,2,3 ???
That i not losing time with training and summoning others...
Thank you so muchmuch

[dusky vortex]

I assume you're still low level and growing..
Pact 1A,1B :- acquiris
Pact 2A,2B:- harpy,bonehead, tempestite,totempest(cargo ship one),evil weevil,
Pact 3 :- trickstar,gremlin,goblin,

Btw... I need advice on wall familiars for range rein trap...
3 fam slots
I'm assuming:- trickstar, sorcerer,terraspike

Or I add gryphon?

[jolly sun]

I like weevil over terraspike helps reduce the backline DMG from p5 and inf hp debuff isn't that necessary ironically cav is more likely to get a walkback on standard range rein comps lol and you have to counter anyways if you don't want to die

So the argument of reducing front DMG taken while getting hit by inf is kinda irrelevant since against a good lead ur losing like 3m T4 if you have that many and the fam won't change much about that

[dusky vortex]

Ohk

[opal notch]

Yeah tbh, reducing hp of strong leads is kinda pointless. Better off increasing your own stats

[plain void]

exactly

[grave thicket]

[heady perch]

?

[clear hound]

New familiar?

[plain void]

oh? what does it do

[hybrid quiver]

Best way to level up fams?? (Most efficient pack to buy)

[opal notch]

Do you mean regular leveling up or battle skills

[teal jungle]

And if battle skills, Red or yellow orb?

[hybrid quiver]

regular leveling up

[opal notch]

Well it's recommended to have one or two gyms, 1-2 mystic spires and rest springs if you've still got pacts to merge.
So focus on training one or two fams at a time. Personally I have two gyms, all heroes are assigned to the fam I'm focused on.

It's a gradual process. No need to rush it.
As for familiar skills, focus on one skill to level up at a time, use a few fragments daily... I wouldn't recommend spending up to 168 frags daily... That gets expensive.
Shatter excess familaur runes you don't need to get more fragments, and try to max out territe. Gives a bunch of frags daily.
I also think there's a new offer where you can buy fragments directly..

[hybrid quiver]

thank you

[brazen dome]

Drop it

[steady belfry]

should i focus on pact 3 army talents or the more defensive army talents (pacts 1 and 2?) since i have limited orbs.

[teal jungle]

Ignore the defence ones

Save your orbs, you'll be better off over time

[steady belfry]

okay. thanks gnomeann c:

[turbid apex]

What's best for attacks? What is the most important from below?
Please can peeps rank for example A1, D2, B3, F4, C5, E6 (I have mine in order below).
A- Stun enemy heroes for 5 seconds when 15% of troops fall.
B - Stun one of enemy largest squads for 8 seconds when 10% of troops fallen.
C - Shield 7% of Inf/Rge/Cav when 15% of troops fallen.
D - Boost Army hp 15% at start of battle.
E - At start of battle reduce enemy Inf/Rge/Cav max hp by 40%
F - Boost Inf/Rge/Cav hp 80% when 10% of troops fall.
Do as reply to message to keep original question attached. Thanks

[turbid apex]

A1, B2, C3, D4, E5, F6 - thats my thoughts. Really would welcome everyone's so I can choose my next set.

[crisp meteor]

For solo or rally ?

[open sand]

If we're excluding the stacking fams, 150% dmg, 15% atk and 600% then I guess. And assuming I know Front line.

E1, F2, B3, D4, C5, A6

Tbh I don't have much experience with shield fams so that position is arbitrary from me

[turbid apex]

Rally

And yes excluded all the stickers as I've got all them maxxed (except the p5s)

[turbid apex]

*stackers

[open sand]

[opal notch]

I don't like mega maggot for some reason

[open sand]

Same that's why it's last for me

[frozen zephyr]

Gargantua is worse

[crisp meteor]

Are you on drugs ? It's one of the best

[frozen zephyr]

In terms of jewels perhaps, but damage nah

And no to the first

[crisp meteor]

[open sand]

600% dmg sucks yea

[opal notch]

[opal notch]

Garg familiar ... Not the monster

[frozen zephyr]

The familiar is good but still

Although it is a must need for a rally lead

[crisp meteor]

It's not "good", it's the best familiar for leading, defending..

[frozen zephyr]

It’s even good for fort rallies, who would of known

[open sand]

everyone

[teal jungle]

Everyone except Rocky

[tardy birch]

[copper zephyr]

Which familiar is better Garg or frost??

[open sand]

Garg

[opal notch]

Garg does instant 600% damage after you lose 4% of your troops while frostwing does 750% damage over 10s after you lose 8% of your troops...

[open sand]

for up to XX times is the key thing though

[green jungle]

wdym? that's random? Or dependent on the targeted squad not being dead yet?

[willow osprey]

Actually those dealing consecutive damage are better, I thought also otherwise and already have bon and garga But I read article with calculations which disproved this idea. When I will be home I will try to find and post it here.

Also shield familiars are great but don't put them on wall, they are offensive.

[open sand]

The wording of them is very confusing

"Deals XX% damage every 4 seconds for up to XX times to one of the largest enemy Squads. Damage is based on your initial Cavalry ATK. Activates when 8% of your troops have fallen" - frostwing, but then the chart says max number of times

[willow osprey]

Largest squad won't be most likely dead before end of battle. It depends on lvl of familiar's battle skill. Lvl 10 is 150% dmg every 4s, 5 times.

Theoretically it could happen that largest squad dies before those 5 times, that's probably reason they wrote "up to" in description. But in reality it's very unlikely.

[teal jungle]

There's 6 p5 fams. 2 of each troop type. Bon is best for inf, Huey secondary. Blackwing für range, bee is secondary. Garg for cav, frostwing is secondary.
The better ones all do 600% damage based on your initial [troop type] ATK to "one of" the largest enemy squad when 4% of your troops have fallen.
The secondary ones do 150% damage every 4 seconds for up to 5 times to one of the largest enemy squad based on your initial [troop type] ATK when 8% of your troops have fallen.

They all cost the same so if you can't afford them all, priorities on the 3 best ones.

It's possible to get one f2p if you really focus on grinding yellow orbs from hells and events, bargain store, exchanges, GF etc... Takes maybe a year f2p. And we assume you get Bon because people get those pacts f2p grinding cups in Tycoon

[open sand]

So in theory 150% are better if the max hits are achieved but because it's not guaranteed, 600% is classed as best?

[teal jungle]

It's predicated on having a big comp and doing serious rallies

They're all kinda useless if you're hitting small targets.

The first time I rallied someone with my freshly unlocked Bon, it didn't even go off 😂 was just a small target, 3m troops

[stuck vapor]

💯

[dusky scroll]

I'm I'm still merging 1a/b do I want anymore than 2 spires? And when do you drop to 1 spire if ever?. (Also when should you stop merging 1a/b) and move on to 2a/b, same question for pact 3)

[opal notch]

You can keep the 2 spires till you get enough pacts for ur fams.... As for pacts 1, work on aquiris, territe and the +15% attack/ -40% hp ones.. others are irrelevant except for turf boosts

Once done with that, you can move to pact 2... Evil weevil first, then the other important ones. Then pact 3... The stackers are the goal here

I'll recommend sticking with the two spires until you get all the pacts you need. Then you can switch to all gyms

Mind you, this is a very long process

[drifting island]

Good

[turbid apex]

Seems from in game discussions, here and Lords discord everyone (pretty much) agrees. Order goes C
E
F / B / D
A
Which surprises me as I thought Tempesite would feature higher. I had planned that as my next one to add into my rotations but so many saying 7% shield then 80% HP the priority.

[plain void]

Hey I am new anyone tell me how can I grow fast?

[opal notch]

A more efficient way would be to consider whether the fams are for attacking or defending. If it's based on attacking, then tempestite would be ranked way higher

Maggot would always be ranked lowest for me tho.

[opal notch]

That is a loaded question... Check the pins in #🌱┊new-player-help first, check the guides in #📖┊community-guides .
Then feel free to ask any questions you might have

[dusky vortex]

Hey guys. So I was doing a dn6 and fairly winning the battle but suddenly Enemy saberfang familiar popped up and after that for some seconds.. I didn't do any single damage to darknest and darknest almost reduced my morale from 49 to 25 and they were still sitting and 52..

Saber skill says protect 7% of troops.. does he protect all from killing blow?

[opal notch]

Was the dn cav front?
Or can u send report

[opal notch]

Try increasing your T5 count