👾┊familiars

[teal jungle]

I regret my 140k wall. But I'm just thankful I don't have a 2m wall

[amber rain]

I have a 300k wall and I regret it so much

[vocal anvil]

My friend has a 2 mil wall . I remember telling him that he should ditch the defense tree but he wanted to get higher might than me . Regrets it a lot now

[clever reef]

Mole shaman familiar repairs 50% of wall each day at max level

[teal jungle]

Yeah but a maxed wall is still like 40 days 🤣 even with the fam it takes a fat minute to clear, especially if you have DA starting

[crude jolt]

mm.. 2 days with the familiar. just put a shield 2 fays before DA and you are good

[teal jungle]

Yeah with fam for me it's 2 days, but I'd rather not shield just because DA. I got speeds

Just glad it's not 40 days

[crude jolt]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure you can enter the arena without leader. It's so weird that they draw the line at wall hp even though it doesn't matter for the actual game to have a wall or not

I understand for the infirmary though, since the heal system is different from normal

[teal jungle]

Probably just the Devs being lazy to have to restore things to "their previous state" when the night be variable.

[vocal anvil]

Probably interferes with the wall since when you get attacked your wall breaks and after da it heals fully . So you don't heal your wall for free you need to have it full before entering ? No idea . Just a guess

[teal jungle]

Also suspect a lot of people would be happy to accept a wall that's broken in DA not being restored if it means they can enter with it damaged.
But again: extra work to code it

Plus they profit from people speeding their wall

[quick relic]

do ppl regret 2 mil wall because of da?

[upper moat]

no, they regret 2M wall because it's a lot of research might

[teal jungle]

Small players regret because of DA, big players regret because of useless might.
Wall is useless except against very small weak attacks of the sort that are so small and weak they wouldn't hurt you even without a wall.

[tame blade]

the defense tree is only like 8mm, that with the level 25 wall is about 675k hp. The costly part for wall healing and might comes from upgrade defense- 270% hp boost and 54m might

[quick relic]

i mean when you reach hundreds of millions. What's 54mil might?

[vocal anvil]

It's exactly 6.75 million t2 or 1.5 million t4 . It's a big difference . A very big one

[teal jungle]

When that 54m might adds a couple extra scrolls to your migration, you care

[humble pendant]

Lmao

So true

[quick relic]

oh true

[mellow flicker]

Guys that’s a scam link don’t click

[heady token]

I want to ask that runes in familiar will reset or not please tell me

[thick marsh]

Familiar rune don't reset, it's the fragments used for upgrading familiar skills

[crude jolt]

??? you mean for the amount you need to upgrade the familiar to next stage or for upgrading the skills ?. For the former you'll always need the amount asked of you for that specific stage regardless of the day. For the later the amount needed will be reset to the lowest after your reset time is reached

[native ridge]

So I’m relatively new and have to ask a dumb question. What is DA that you all are referring to in the above comments?

Dragon Arena?

[uneven notch]

#🎮┊in-game-events

[tame blade]

Yes

[native ridge]

Thanks

[raven ridge]

[heady token]

How much time does Aquiris for maxing for f2p anyone know please tell me

[normal meadow]

Too many variables to decern how long it would take

Depends on a lot. A whole lot

[humble pendant]

Lets just say 6months if your lucky

[crude jolt]

If you only focus on maxing it probably less. (I mean invest all your gems into fusion speed up. But that would be a pretty stupid thing to do honnestly)

[humble pendant]

If he means the skill to it’s gonna be a lot longer

Getting orbs f2p is pain

[normal meadow]

See? There's too much

[humble pendant]

Way to much

[silver helm]

i maxed weevil and aquiris from f2p orbs

i havent bought a single pack that has red orbs in it

[mental plover]

great

[tropic scroll]

Almost any f2p player can max out 3 familliars

2 Rank 3s and 2 Rank 2s,around 2200 orbs

[coral shadow]

Red orbs is pretty easy to get enough of as f2p. Brilliant orbs are impossible. Should be able to get like gryphon maxed and then maybe 1 p2p familiar over time

[teal patrol]

Anyone know how much exp will need hoarder need from lvl50 to lvl60

[clever reef]

There's a chart on the wiki for familiars, near the bottom. It shows how much exp is needed per level, by rarity.

[teal patrol]

Okay thanks.

[runic jungle]

Allied troops travel speed in Sorcerer’s skill is for how fast you walk to join rallies, reinforce, or garrison someone? 💭✨

[olive depot]

Getting Server error 1110

Any help

[thick marsh]

servers are down

[olive depot]

My sheild is about to expire

Will that effect the game?

[teal patrol]

Yes, you will get zero

[opaque lark]

Not the game. Just the troops

[green jungle]

everyone's received a maintenance shield now

[crude jolt]

If the maintenance isn't scheduel we should receive a 8h shield.

[steady lichen]

How is the amount of pact 5 damage determined? Will I take less damage if I have more hp?

[teal jungle]

The fams all say in their info how it's calculated. Some are based on total stats, some are based on troops lost etc

[slim frost]

what is a good familliar to max for f2p, after pyris, aquiris, jazeik? I was thinking about territe or evit weevil

[green jungle]

limited to pact 2?

[slim frost]

4

[green jungle]

hm

i'd defo get trickstar/gremlin/goblin

[opal notch]

Pyris is not a priority for anyone.

[frozen zephyr]

Evil weevil and/or the familiar that decrease enemy hp (40% at level 10)

Gryphon is also good

[clever reef]

Is it worth grinding pact 3s to get enough runes for Gryphon?
I currently have enough runes for all pact 3 familiars to get elder, but for Gryphon I'm at 87/160.
I still have a lot of familiars in Pact 1A/1B/2A/2B that do not have enough runes for elder yet.

[quartz relic]

i guess one question there is are you going to use gryphon for what it needs elder for? so the battle talent or wings back

i really think wings back is useful for only gryphon trap or war filler, and the talent is good for wall

[clever reef]

I don't think so.

So i'll just go back to pact 1&2s

[quartz relic]

ok

[lament nexus]

Gryphon is great for fighters

[idle marsh]

why in the world would u want pyrus first?

[tame blade]

Gryphon is pretty key for people that like wow and DA. Also great for when you fill rallies on fury targets

[coral shadow]

The ability to instantly pull back all your troops right when kvk 2x kingdom switches and then switch kingdom is pretty amazing. The army talent is the best/most versatile of the ones needing brilliant orbs and the training speed is nice for training troops

[clever reef]

I'll just grind out Gryphon then besides the fragments i get will help me max out mole shaman's elder skill

[thick marsh]

Wait and grind pact 4

[green jungle]

gryphon isn't that hard to get if you're also collecting watcher/chaos dragon

I quite like the skills, myself

[clever reef]

Just got my watcher to blue yesterday

[green jungle]

🙂

[clever reef]

With 269% merging speed, 13 pacts takes 17:36:55 to merge.
What's the time needed to merge with 275%, 279%, 283%?
Trying to see if the time difference is worth setting aside my manor upgrades for a week.

[green jungle]

I have 302%, 13 pact 3s would take me 16h10

with 277% it takes 17h14m

[clever reef]

It seems worth it but i only have two more springs left to do. My research is currently focused on Upgrade Army, not familiars

2 springs that are currently lvl 23*

[green jungle]

ah

[thick marsh]

32 pact 4 takes me 2 days and 18 hrs

thats 85-90 pact 4 per watcher merge, easier than pact 3

[idle marsh]

yo, how much might does the research from pact 3 to pact 4 gives?

[vocal anvil]

A lot

[viscid coyote]

an easy 30-35m

if u have everything maxed before pact 3 its exactly 28m

[idle marsh]

no i mean just the bare minimum for pact 3

[tropic scroll]

Bare min for pact 3 shouldnt be more than 3m might

[idle marsh]

Bro I meant that from bare minimum for p3 to get till p4

[storm copper]

Nope just 2b lol

[idle marsh]

Huh?

[tropic scroll]

Oh,from pact 3 to 4 you need to max out everything above,should all be around 15 to 20 mil might

I may be wrong,check out the lm wiki

[thick marsh]

Your question is confusing

[thick marsh]

Someone already said this

[clever reef]

It appears their question is:
I just unlocked pact 3. How much might will i gain for getting pact 4 from this point?

[idle marsh]

thanks for understanding

[hollow aspen]

Is it worth rushing hoarder to get jewels or am I better off just buying them straight?

[thick marsh]

Both

[upper moat]

just rush hoarder you need gear to put the jewels in anyway

[floral bluff]

Hoarder is not worth it. The only fair familiars is the one who gives T4 the rest are useless unless you collect defence jewels

[brisk sierra]

sounds like someone got shit luck

[lament nexus]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/700836222557487104/839567928776589332/Screenshot_20210505-111543_Lords_Mobile.jpg

[normal meadow]

[lament nexus]

Yea hoarder def isnt worth it /s

[amber rain]

jewels every 3 days is 100% worth

even if u get greys

it all helps

[upper moat]

next this guy is gonna tell me garg isn't worth it

[tropic pollen]

Whats the best familiars for trap turf from pact 1 to pact 4?

[crude jolt]

Well, I never made a trap so I don't know for sure but I would assume lower the hp of your opponent and increasing yours is good no matter what kind of trap

[opal notch]

If you have four fam slots, I'd recommend evil weevil, then the three hp reducers.

If three, I'd recommend weevil, aquiris and the fam that reduces the HP of the troop type that counters your front line... Or one of the attack boosting fams

Or a stacking fam but that's if you have super low amount of troops

[tropic pollen]

So, for a trap castle, it is all about increasing our HP? Not attack?

[hidden lagoon]

Yes if your a trap castle you want the lowest hp possible

[crude jolt]

I think the point of a trap account is to have an overwhelming amount of soldier while looking like you have much less. mostly because you limit the amount of research you do to not raise might and that you only make soldier that doesn't give too much might either (T2 mostly I believe). To lure people in thinking you are weak but you really arn't. The thing is though, the more soldier you get, the more might you'll get as well and if you got too much people not gonna attack you because you'll look like a strong player and they just gonna rally you instead of trying to solo attack you. So you need all the help you can get with familiar

[hollow aspen]

How much would a 100 jewel chests give me

[vocal anvil]

100 gold attack jewels or 100 grey defense jewels . Totally random

[hollow aspen]

It's never random there is always an average

[thick marsh]

It's random

Youu can buy 500 and check it out average is. 100 greys per 100 chests

or least

[humble pendant]

With igg nothing is certain or average

[hollow aspen]

Fine I'll do the responsible thing and use my gems to do pact 4 final decision

[crude jolt]

Well, they are most likely using some kind of formula to decide which jewel to give and which quality. so there is most likely a % of chance for each thing to appear

but nobody will have the numbers

[hollow aspen]

Somebody will I am gonna look in Reddit...

[crude jolt]

here is what I could found

https://lordsmobile.igg.com/project/probability/?game_id=1051029902#1

Every jewel have equal chance, only quality is more or less rare

[hollow aspen]

According to them epic will give you average of 8.8commons and a legendary 9.3 but I don't think anyone trusts igg rates

[crude jolt]

I surely don't trust them. It doesn't mean it's wrong though. to double check rates you need to open thousands of chest, just opening few 100 isn't enough to double check the numbers. I don't have have thousands of chest to check for myself

[idle marsh]

3 t5 fams that deal 600% dmg when 4% troops die (not recommended for party traps) + 1 eevil weevil

[opal notch]

Pact 1 to pact 4

[idle marsh]

oh ok

use aquirus, evil weevil and reduce hp one

but if you got like less than 4m troops of each type, (3m t2 1m t4) then prolly stacking ones are not bad, cuz even if they prok just once 100% atk boost will make a good differnce

[opal notch]

Same thing I said

[tropic pollen]

Alright, i got it. Thank you guys! You are the best!!

[tame blade]

100 gold chests on average, according to published drop rates, will give 1.03 golds (epic chests) and 1.10 golds (legendary chests) if you only care about the INF RNG CAV atk jewels

Idk why people say there isn't an average, and that everything is random. IGG simulates randomness but are in control of the algorithm and have announced drop rates for these kinds of things so that we can calculate the expected value.

[crude jolt]

You don't know if their rate is up to date though. Or even if it's trustworthy to begin with. As their formula might have change but their chart might not have been. And the people that made the chart might not even be the same people that actually coded the damn thing. So it could be inaccurate to some extent to begin with

[obsidian bolt]

What’s the most efficient way to level skills? Like is there a point where using fragments isn’t worth it till the next day?

[idle marsh]

it really depends on who you are... if you are f2p, then i would say dont use more than 200fragments a day, even if you are stacked on them.... but for p2p maybe 1000 fragments a day will max out a skill pretty fast... (unless its p5 fam, they take a lot)

but yes, using the familiar runes are always better value than fragments (again, this doesn't go for p5 fams)

[idle marsh]

👆

[thick marsh]

It's not don't use more than 200, it's don't use when it requires 200 fragments to upgrade a skill

[idle marsh]

lmao, i never noticed how many fragments a particular skill required to max out

xD

[crude jolt]

I feel like even an 100 fragment is already a loss. you get so much less exp as you go. I guess it's depend on how many fragment you get per weeks though.

[idle marsh]

for a pact 4 fam, i guess 100 fragments will go in like 3 clikcs (i may be wrong, i dont have pact4)

[crude jolt]

Depend on the rarity lvl of the familiar (there is rarity 4 and 5 in pact 4)

but that sound about right

for rarity 5 at least

[grizzled steppe]

I'd say generally, don't use more fragments than what you produce in a day. Maybe once in a while, if one or two more clicks will level up an important skill.

[silk osprey]

Yeah you need to just upg daily otherwise it costs way too .many fragments

I have gotten to some after 3 clicks on lvl 4 being around 100 fragments. I find that a bit ridiculous but it is what it is

[coral shadow]

Maybe but it would be illegal if it wasnt correct

[hollow aspen]

I doubt anyone believes the rates for materials

[tame blade]

That's why I track my own drop rates for things
I've found that generally my individual results are consistent with the published rates.

They also have no need to change the algorithm for drop rates. Instead they just change the prices of packs or what the packs contain. That way they can maintain compliance with apple guidelines.

[tame blade]

What's not to believe about a .0012% chance of a gold rare? 1 gold in 8333 chests expected value isn't exactly encouraging

[patent folio]

Hlo guys am new on discord but I need help with unlocking familiar known as hell drider, any piece of advice, I humbly welcome it.

[dusky jacinth]

You first must have Academy 25 and pact 4 research conplete

[patent folio]

Ok thank you

[dusky jacinth]

Welcome

[desert pawn]

Guys, i need your advice... What familiars are good to be put on walls? For lvl 1-4 fams, and i currently have 4 slots. Appreciate your advice ❤️

[gusty pumice]

[steel rain]

What’s better if you have to choose one for defense. Aquaris or weevil?

If you have large amount of troops, let’s say 25 million for example. Weevil will boost hp of 25m troops by 15% vs aquaris who lowers hp of attackers troops by 15%, which in rally is max of 2-4m depending if in wonder or not

Seems to me that weevil would have the better effect…is that correct?

Background on this is the wall station. I have garg, blackwing, bon, gryphon and bunny. Thinking of taking out bunny or gryphon since it doesn’t kick in until 8% or 10% and attack is over by then. Experts what do suggest?

[idle marsh]

if you got 5 slors, then put in bon, garg, blackwing, eevil and aquirus

if you got like 40m troops and mythic gears etc etc...

replace the p5 fams by reduce enemy troop hp 40% ones or 15% atk ones

between aquirus and weevil, i personally like aquirus, cuz it reduces the enemy's p5 fam dmg (even by the slightest bit)

cuz that is unavoidable even if you counter them

[idle marsh]

👆

[opal notch]

And uh.. don't use gryphon on wall.. just don't

[idle marsh]

i think he was already planning on taking em out xD

[steel rain]

Yea I’m swapping things out

I don’t have the 40% fams useful yet

[idle marsh]

Do 3 p5 and aquirus plus weevil. Best combo ( until you have a VeryBig comp)

[steel rain]

I think that is the way to do it thank you

[median portal]

Does anybody know how i can transfer my game progress so i play on PC? I've installed android emulator and lords mobile. What next?

[thick marsh]

Link your game to facebook/gmail

And login in the emulator

[floral bluff]

I just maxed out Nocerous but since the 3D change they are no level 5 tiles on base anymore. The few there are always taken. Should have focused on something else

[orchid wasp]

I need pact speedups

[orchid wasp]

How can I get some. Want to upgrade my familiars to support my turf

[thick marsh]

cargos, gems, packs, hell events

guild fest

[teal jungle]

Maybe before you had noceros you didn't pay as much attention to the T5 tiles. They never just sit around empty waiting, especially during guild fest. You have to watch for them to respawn and be fast fast. Nothing changed there with the update

[gritty shore]

Hey guys! I was wondering...if you have blackwing bon and gargantua maxed but let s assume you attack with full range...is it better if you go with all 3 of them and mix gear instead of using other familiars (let s presume you have 4 slots and add gryphon or any other one) since they deal 600% of the initial attack for each type (with mix gear you mostly have over 450 for each type) or blast gear and blackwing and range familiars? What deals the most damage?

[opal notch]

Blast gear with range fams. If you have 450 mix, then you'll probably have around 700 or more blast.

Trickster can boost your range attack a lot while fighting. Highest I've seen so far is 900% increase.

Anyways, blast gear and fams always if you're attacking with one troop. That way you maximise your attack instead of spreading it out by using mix gear

[idle marsh]

lol you asked the same question on discord and reddit ? lmaooo

[gritty shore]

Yeah i wanted an answer fast somewhere 😂😂😂😂

Reddit is faster apparently 😂😂

[gritty shore]

It s on lords hub also 😂

[idle marsh]

lol

[polar nymph]

Finished training all my familiars, Can I delete my last gym building for another spring or do you always need atleast one gym?

[vocal anvil]

All familiars? If you have all of them maxed at lvl 60 or all the fams that you want at 60 I'd say keep 1 to train their skills . It's not a lot but I'd say it's worth it

[plain void]

Perhaps keep one gym just in case they add another familiar?

[polar nymph]

I don’t mind having to rebuild gym if they add familiar but even then I probably have enough potions and elixirs to max out new one with out gym

Probably try deleting last gym today just hoping won’t be waste and that I can still build spring without any gyms in place,. Igg can be annoying like that

[crude jolt]

I don't think you need it for spring

the monsterhold is the hold back for familiar buildings

[coral shadow]

Yeah. I have 1 spire, 1 monster hold, no gyms and then all springs for the rest

[clever reef]

With Magus familiar's additional pacts?

[rare grotto]

Hii

[mystic inlet]

Does anyone know how many tomes to unlock 4th slot?

[plain void]

Hey all, is it worth it to exchange Anima from the cargo ship? i mean, will one experience shortage of Anima where they will need to use the packs in the future? Because for now, I haven't seemed to have the need to use the Anima packs and it doesn't seem as useful as the other resources. So should I exchange for them?

[plain void]

Yes , Rss are still transferable but Anima isn't!

[normal meadow]

I smell a farmer

[plain void]

You might ask for rss from your guildmates in future if need be

[plain void]

Smell me

[normal meadow]

Lol, close

So what's up?

[plain void]

I smell like Garlics

[plain void]

This isn't an ideal channel to talk about it

[normal meadow]

Let's go to #🙃┊offtopic or #💬┊general. You pick the place for our date

[plain void]

Bruh no , I already have someone

[normal meadow]

Lol, dissapointment.

[plain void]

Again you're sounding like my parents

[normal meadow]

You should've slid in, but I respect that you're cuffed. Let's go

[plain void]

I am straight

[normal meadow]

#💬┊general or #🙃┊offtopic?

[plain void]

G

[idle marsh]

what the actual f*** is going on.... this channel is for lords mobile familiar discussion, not to get familiar with each other xD

[plain void]

@normal meadow Answer!

He initiated it

[plain void]

Alright. Thanks for the tip K3tan

[plain void]

[clever reef]

Having anima in bags is worth it if you're going to go for watcher merge pacts hell events

[thick marsh]

It's worth it overall

[plain void]

I see. Thanks for the tip everyone. Imma start exchanging for Anima from now on 😄

[coral shadow]

Yes

[lament nexus]

Good lineup for range blast with 4 slots without p2p fams? Im thinking gryphon, stacker, tempestite, 80% hp.

[opal notch]

Decent

[idle marsh]

correct 🙂

[lament nexus]

Thanks

[calm granite]

Use mouthwash

[plain void]

I do , It's Garlic flavoured

[onyx crest]

im a solo trap, if i have a familiar slot which familiar should i get pact 1 and 2

[idle marsh]

aquirus, and evil weevil

[onyx crest]

so aquirus cuz hes easier

[plain void]

What happened to him , Why did he leave server

[onyx crest]

hes still in sneaky squad

[clever reef]

Do any other familiars besides Gryphon boost training speed?

[opal notch]

Nope

[nocturne crater]

A lot of training speed comes from p2p heroes

[stray pike]

How much pacts do i need more my Pyris is 49/120

[west kettle]

Tons more

Like 400

Mine is the same

[low jetty]

I am at payday lvl 7 any idea how long will it take to get it lvl 10 .I am spending 8 hoarder medals daily on upgrading pay day

[pulsar plaza]

Few weeks tops

Mine at 8

[pulsar plaza]

.

[nocturne crater]

9-10 is a bish

[plain void]

what are the best familiars with 3 slots for wall (f2p/low p2p) .........-40hp cav,range,inf.........-15hp,+15hp,pyris........-15hp,+15hp,+15def ?

-15hp , +15hp the other you can use one of the +15Atk Cav/Inf/Rng or the -40Hp one's if you're sure what's coming

is pyris that bad ?

[plain void]

Yes it is

i heard the ratio from def to hp are 15%def=7,5%hp ...is it true ? sooo with my last one i would have +-37,5hp

[normal meadow]

Forget about defense

[opal notch]

Defense stats are shite

I don't even know what they do

[calm granite]

Nothing

[low jetty]

How much exp it requires to go from payday lvl 9 to 10 like going 7 to 8 requires 900k exp

[low jetty]

So how much exp to go from lvl 8 to lvl 9 like mine going from lvl 7 to 8 payday skill requires 900k exp

[low jetty]

And do u remember from lvl 8 to lvl 9?

[nocturne crater]

Nope

[low jetty]

Ok thanks for the pic

[pulsar plaza]

Yes 😫 😩

[pulsar plaza]

I wish lol defense stats were useful like u stated lol but sadly no... IGG believes in attack is best defense

[crude jolt]

1.4 million oO gees, It gonna take ages to max out

[plain void]

1 slot left is tempestite or gryphon better ?

[opal notch]

On wall? Neither

[plain void]

generally ?

[teal jungle]

Gryphon. But temp is more achievable

[plain void]

so if you have both maxed gryphon always better ?

[opal notch]

Yes

[low jetty]

U can max in 1 day all relative how many fragments and excess medals u have or u p2p

[crude jolt]

well yeah sure.. but every time you use your fragment or medals the next use will cost more within the same 24h cycle. To max it in one day you'll need un ungodly amount of fragment/medals.
I was more thinking of using around 100 fragments a day >.>

[hollow aspen]

I just resigned myself to easily another 3weeks till i can get hoarder to elder unless I buy anima or something familiars take forever 😐

[vocal anvil]

Noice! Finally after 427 days of playing I'll be getting hoarder to elder if we get 2 watcher merge hells . I've been waiting for so long lol

[hollow aspen]

Great

How much anima do you make an hour?

[vocal anvil]

Currently 151k per hour. 8 mil storage

[vocal anvil]

Wow . My first pull . I got too excited so i did the rest of the pacts on non watcher hells . Let's hope i get a gold someday lol

[grizzled steppe]

nice one

[pulsar plaza]

Wow good catch i hardly got anything worth in last several weeks

[steel rain]

Lucky!

[west kettle]

Yea

[crude jolt]

gg

[storm shoal]

How much money to max all P2P fams

[crude jolt]

I don't know, but someone posted this a while back . I guess you can do the math

it's only for the orbs though

I imagine it's even more expensive for p2p exclusive fams as you also need to buy the medals

[teal jungle]

Tycoon

[storm shoal]

If you fam medals with free buy tycoons packs

And it easy not so hard I think 10k tokens one fam max and good amount of gems also collected

[willow osprey]

You will get also mat for gear, but it's still ~1000€ per 10k tokens

[pulsar plaza]

Will 1 slayer pack give me 6 purple hunter flames?

[normal meadow]

It could give you 6 golds dude, it all depends on your luck

[pulsar plaza]

Gosh haha got it.

Wont get it i mean

[twilit ocean]

Guys, i have one question, the fam 5 attack first the t1?

[plain void]

No its the higher ones first

[twilit ocean]

Ok thanks

[opal notch]

No it hits lowest tier first

[plain void]

Huh?

Lemme check

[opal notch]

So say you have a pretty even comp but have like 500k extra T1 cav, the p5 fams will hit the T1 cav

[plain void]

Bro he is talking about grim reaper i think

[opal notch]

Grim reaper is p4

[twilit ocean]

i'm talking about the shop fam

[opal notch]

Bon, blackwing, etc right?

[plain void]

Oh

Wait there are no p5
There are grade 5

[twilit ocean]

Ok thanks

[opal notch]

Pact 5.. the paid fams

[opal notch]

Those are two different fams

[plain void]

1st ones blackwing

[opal notch]

I don't understand why you sending those

[plain void]

Showin

He talkin about skills or talent?

[opal notch]

I'm confused

[plain void]

I'm more confused

[brisk sierra]

asa

[brisk sierra]

youre confusing yourself smh

[plain void]

Clear the confusion then

[opal notch]

What are you showing us

[plain void]

Their attack skills

[brisk sierra]

idk what confusion there is

you showed garg and fw skill that 1 extends gf timer and 2 slows march speed

[plain void]

This is the question

First tell them to stop using short words its hella confusing

[brisk sierra]

idk how hard is it to understand

they meant the talents ofc

[plain void]

Army talent?

[brisk sierra]

what else

[opal notch]

Bruh of course the army talents :/

[plain void]

Not attack skills.

?

[opal notch]

No

[plain void]

That's why i was confused

[brisk sierra]

what attack skill

[plain void]

Like pyris hit

[brisk sierra]

only p5 fam with attack skill that hits army is bee

[plain void]

Familiar attack

[opal notch]

He means the skillstones ones

[brisk sierra]

and that clearly says random tier

[opal notch]

^^

Got hit with bee once.. it's annoying asf

[plain void]

I got 2 familiar hits just because someone was stealing my ball

[twilit ocean]

I'm talking about the army talents of the pay fams

[brisk sierra]

it hits lowest tier first

just like the actual army

[twilit ocean]

Ok thanks

[lunar flint]

What to work on first? Im thinking of Blackwing

[brisk sierra]

can you even make it past hatchling

[lunar flint]

Ha ha ha funny :p

[thick marsh]

thats blackwing....

[brisk sierra]

im just saying if you arent ready to spend something for it theres no point

[thick marsh]

get grim lmao unless youre spending for pact 5

[lunar flint]

Ugh IGG loves taking my money. Okay Grim it is

[thick marsh]

wut

dont forget the other pact 4s that are useful than grim

[lunar flint]

Hmm I will have a look at those as well. Thanks. I think u have saved me lol

[thick marsh]

Hoarder, Hell Drider, Saberfang

[lunar flint]

I had received those last night. I will look into those. Thanks ^_^

[idle marsh]

hell drider should be yr 1st preference for p4 fams

free t4 troops

[thick marsh]

no

Hoarder

i'd say hell drider is kinda overrated, you mostly get siege

[brisk sierra]

just dont research siege

[thick marsh]

IGG forced us to if you want some few boosts

[vocal anvil]

100% . Hoarder all the way . And hell drider runes come way after hoarder and saber runes . I have 90/200 hell runes rn and my hoarder is at elder . Doing saber next . I'll probably finish saber and then finally be able to do hell

[jolly venture]

Hey all. Can someone tell me what this means?

[upper moat]

It means you can use it for familiar battles

[rain fern]

you can awaken army talents on certain familiars

[jolly venture]

Thank you!

[idle marsh]

Ok thanks for telling, I havent got p4 fams yet

[pulsar plaza]

Only hell rider left from like 6-7 weeks lol unable to get it though even did 3 merging hell event fr watcher with only P4 to get hell rider medals faster

[pulsar plaza]

I thinkit should be the last one cause it takes eons to be made max...

[lament nexus]

Hoarder, Saber, Hell drider, in that order

[idle marsh]

well now that im thinking about it, guys is it worth going for pact 4 ?

cuz im at 1.21b might right now, and i dont wanna go too high

for my 5th fam in blasts, i use tempestite

is it worth the might?

• how many packs will i need to make to get all pact4 fams to elder, before i start making gyms again

feel free to tag me if you can give a suggestion

[grizzled steppe]

It will take a lot of pacts, but probably worth it

Free jewels every 3 days, free troops etc.

[opal notch]

You're already high might.. doubt anyone gonna bother to rally you unless you're in a Titan kd that organizes parties.. so I don't think you should worry about the added might

[idle marsh]

bruh im not a trap anymore

i meant i wanna be a lead, but not like those 1.8b ones

i wanna be under 1.3b

actually i dont wanna be a lead, i am a lead

[opal notch]

Shield fams

1.3b ain't that high unless you in a dead kd

[idle marsh]

i dont like spending much on scrolls tbh\

and low might just attracts me lol

[opal notch]

I'm higher than that and it's always one scroll for me

[idle marsh]

hmm, i might think of going to 1.5b in near future... but im good at 1.2b for now, for the fact that i became a full time lead quite recently

btw asa do you know why this gnome ann guy hates me, lmao

[vocal anvil]

What kingdoms do you go to ? Usually most active kingdoms are 1 scroll for someone your might

[opal notch]

Idk. It's amusing to watch you two bicker tho..
Secret love?

[teal jungle]

I don't hate her, she's just really clearly a child who doesn't fully understand a lot of the stuff she gives advice on. Claiming to have "so much" experience, but then "only recently" started getting a full time lead, doesn't seem to know the difference if you send blasts to dn/Castle/fort, hasn't even unlocked pact 4 and is clearly ignorant... The list goes on and on and on
And is pathologically incapable of turning off ping.

There's no hate. I just have no respect for anyone that dumb.

Also got zero tolerance for people who assume everyone on the internet is a guy

[vocal anvil]

Ooof

[opal notch]

She>>>He
He>>>She

See? Amusing

[teal jungle]

I thought so 🤣

Dunno why people think I'm mad or hating when really I'm just bemused

[opal notch]

Tbh I just assume everyone on the internet is genderless till I know em

[teal jungle]

I also assume genderless for people IRL till I know them

[thick marsh]

Monke

[opal notch]

Hello Gennifer

[thick marsh]

.

[paper girder]

Yes, for a good lead shield fams are a must in my opinion. They are so strong and sometimes outperform pact 5s in certain circumstances.

[idle marsh]

There is something in the game called mini lead, that have the gears but not maxed research etc...
And how does not unlocking pact 4 makes me dump?
And as of for the blasts, just ask someone you think knows better...

And I dont really wanna start the topic of blasts once again, so if you think I'm dumb.... go ahead keep thinking

I dont even care anymore

[quartz relic]

i blast people irl

[idle marsh]

And yeah I'm a HE

[quartz relic]

wait a minute

[idle marsh]

And hey gen, when you are free to talk can you dm me? Pretty plz

The tym gen

[quartz relic]

monkas

[frail pivot]

I saw that

[opal notch]

[pulsar plaza]

Oh Asa I never knew woahh heavy titan

[pulsar plaza]

She she.... She might look bossy but honestly she is sweet and too straight to the point n speaks her mind... You might have got on her nerves sometime hehe.. She is great on knowledge too

[pulsar plaza]

I go with mam/sir

@idle marsh man getthe pact 4 especially prison escape n hoarder atleast will do u alot of good as a RL

[quartz relic]

its defo worth for the stacking fams...personal opinion.

[opal notch]

Pact 4

[unreal folio]

Anyone got access to the amount of might gain per research? Reading the discussion about pact 4, I saw pinned post about archaic tomes needed per specific research and tree but I'm curious might gained? How much might gain to unlock pact 4 if you've already unlocked pact 3?

[crude jolt]

There is a wiki with all the research listed and how much might they give. You could go there and add it up yourself I guess. It would be tedious though.

here is the link to the said wiki if youa re interested in doing the math https://lordsmobile.fandom.com/wiki/Familiars

You know what, I was feeling generous (and took the procrastination Opportunity) and did it.
If you have the bare minimum to unlock the pact 3. getting to unlock pact 4 would give you:
31,958,987 might
(if I didn't miss anything that is)

[unreal folio]

Sweet much appreciated it

Now do it for 4th familiar slot?

Haha just kidding

[torpid snow]

Is it safe to use Runes for skill upgrades after I get to elder?

[opal notch]

Yes

And if the skills are maxed, shatter the runes into fragments

[low jetty]

Few days more:)

[low jetty]

Then the long journey of convocation will begin xD

Anyone who has maxed convocation any rough idea how long it takes?

[green jungle]

Depends. You roll first get 8 gold engine atk jewels

Then wall defense, trap defense

[opal notch]

Speaking from experience?

FYI, I've gotten gold and purple attack jewels from hoarder couple times (not siege)

[crude jolt]

gg for the Payday, mine is lvl 2 only. My journey is still long ahead

[low jetty]

Let's see if my luck as good as yours

Asa have u maxed hell drider convocation skill as well how long it takes in taking it to lvl 10 roughly?

[opal notch]

Can't say for sure.. but p4 fams take a long time to max their skills if you're conserving fragments

Should be around the same time it takes to max payday

[idle marsh]

welp i got my p4 fams 🙂 and boosted some more research and troops.

at 1.52b now (definitely not gonna go higher than that)

got hell to elder with bottles and potions

and hoarder to level 44

now gotta train em xD

[crude jolt]

It's probably going to be longer than pay day. Hoarder is classify as rarity 4 and Hell drider is classify as rarity 5. usually higher rarity level require more exp and medals

[idle marsh]

yes true

[low jetty]

Yup will be a long way to max hell drider skill(

[pulsar plaza]

Finally after months of waiting last one done too

[uneven notch]

noice

[pulsar plaza]

Thanks took me many many weeks just to get final 30 medals

[uneven notch]

[tropic scroll]

Thats not even the hard part,wait till you have to level up convocation

[pulsar plaza]

Hehe yeah that i haven't started training its levels lol

[drowsy sphinx]

How many pacts do i need to merge to bring Aquiris to elder stage? Any "elderly" knowledge?

[idle marsh]

more than 1000 probably...

[onyx crest]

depends on your luck ive been getting mostly 1-2 from 4 pacts but once ive gotten 1 from 64 it was a sad day

[dreamy jungle]

I took me nearly 1200+ pacts

Got to elder just 2 days before

[plain void]

1800.... My luck.... Let's just say I'm having great luck with trickster or whatever he's called.

[low jetty]

Finally maxed

Now hell drider I see u haha

[upper moat]

Nice...this is what I have left

[low jetty]

Oh wow u have been playing quite longer than me I unlocked all p4to elder but only skill payday and saberfang

Maxed

[shell vault]

Nice pfp caitlyn...looking good

[unreal folio]

What are best pact 4 fams for wall as a single or double rally defender?

[opal notch]

Errr..none

[normal meadow]

Pact 4 wall fam?

[crude jolt]

I double check just in case, there is only 4 familiar in pact 4 with actual battle skill and they are all bad for defenses. They trigger when 12% of your troupes of a specific type is down and they only protect 7% of the reminding said type of troupes of a fatal blow once. so say you have 1 000 000 infantry , you'll need to lose 120 000 guys so it trigger and protect 61 600 of your remaining 880 000 soldier of a fatal blow once. It's not worth it. just use familiar that increase you stats or lower the opponent stats from pact 1 and 2. At least those works all the time for the entire battle. not for a split second when you about to lose already.
I don't know if their skill trigger every time 12% of your troupe are dead or if it's just once in the all battle though. But even if it did trigger multiple time, it would mean you were losing quite badly in the first place

[opal notch]

Shield fams and maggot which is an upgraded tempestite

[velvet zinc]

what are the best fams to put on a wall in general?

[green jungle]

besides the p2w ones?

[velvet zinc]

yeah, I guess so. best f2p fams to put on a wall?

[green jungle]

ideal case, the best attack gob/grem/trickstar type against the single troop march sent your way by someone who doesn't know your comp, plus the -40%HP one for that type, plus tempestite & gryphon? 😉

[green jungle]

if you're offline, though.. prolly gryphon & tempestite plus the atk boost one for your front line troop type, perhaps + or -HP

that said, I'm largely a noob, still. so who knows

[opal notch]

Excuse me?

Gryphon? Tempestite? Trickstar? Gremlin? Goblin?
Literally the worst fams to have on wall lmao

In that case add maggot and the shield fams

[opal notch]

What is your comp like? Are you a rein trap? Do you swap fronts to counter rallies or stay in one formation?

[green jungle]

"excuse me? literally the worst lmao!!!!11!!" okay, blowhard.

feel free to teach, spare me the rhetoric

[opal notch]

Trust me.. that is me being nice.

Know your facts before you call me names lil goof

[green jungle]

you mean your response could've been even more deranged, in terms of including pointless hyperbola with no explanation? dearie me.

[opal notch]

Oh no I am going to explain to the dude that asked the question.
But you keep on having stacking fams on walls.. have fun getting zeroed in advance

[green jungle]

^ like I said

[opal notch]

Yeah we both agree that you're a noob

[green jungle]

one difference between us being that you apparently enjoy kicking down, because you think it says something good about you

but okay, enjoy the dopamine release as you "berate" me.

[opal notch]

You assumed I was aiming at ya when I wasn't.. your fault there

Now think about this... Stacking fams only activate when 10% of a particular troop type dies... So assuming I have 2m each T4 and 5m each T2... And I take a rally in inf phalanx.. the range and cav fams won't activate because they won't get touched... And the inf fam won't activate until 700k of my frontline goes... Then the fam will hibernate until an additional 630k die..at that point, I've lost 1.3m troops just for the fam to activate twice

If the fam activates again, then rip cos I'm taking heavy losses

Now you tell me.. is it worth it?

[crude jolt]

assuming you didn't lose from moral loss already >.>

But I'm a noob as well when it comes to war sadly so I'm not 100% of fast the moral goes down

[opal notch]

Yah.. morale loss is a funny one.. I can't fully explain it tbh

[hollow aspen]

Ok I I've figured out how to get answers to my questions in this server...

[plain void]

🤣 🤣 🤣

[vestal reef]

Easiest way to ever get answers in any channel is to make sure you @opal notch and insult him. He will definitely give you the answers youre looking for. Promise.

[open sand]

Is Huey Hops best lvl 5 fam to start buying packs for £4.89 one aswell as tycoon?

[vast garnet]

Go to chalice and take 22 rallies ezz

[opal notch]

[hollow aspen]

Def worth it or you can waste time clicking away in tycoon which is boring plus time is money but no prob I absolutely couldn't care less how you spend your life

[idle marsh]

if you are going in tycoon while haloes are there, ill honestly say that go get the bon to max first, cuz it is useful for both attacking and defending, but hoey hops is not always useful when you are defending rallies in yr turf

end decision is yours tho

[open sand]

Ty all. It'll probably be a toss up between huey and bon depending how next rotation of theirs goes on tycoon. It would be nice to rally with bunny but my guild has been focusing more on wonder battles so bon is probably better for guild while we're maxing wonder tree

[unreal folio]

I think gryphon isnt worth it because of how many troops need to die to activate. Makes more sense if your troop count is lower but still, 10% of TOTAL troops need to die to activate gryphon

Only 10% of a troop type to activate stacking pact 3 familiars

So like I have 3mil each t2. Only 300k need to die to add 100% frontline attack. To me that is more sensible than the 15% health from aquiris or the minus enemy 15% health of weevil. No?

Aw just read your comment Asa. Right t4, too, so for my build its more like 350k or 400k. I have all 3 attack stack fams on the wall so that whichever front I switch to counter, one of the fams will activate

So i think the value in them is higher if you have lower troop count

[teal jungle]

Yes, but only if you have a low troop comp. And if your comp is that low prob shouldn't be taking rallies anyway

[idle marsh]

well 1m each t4 and 3m each t2 is a good enough comp (w/ good gear ofc) to take rallies (not titans though) and can cap normal mythic players... even then losing 400k t2 of the frontline is pretty easy...
i think stacking familiars are not the best choice but still workable, and also they work really well for rein trap comps

[opal notch]

That's why I asked for the dude's comp

But I don't think he saw it.. so I'ma ping him

[opal notch]

@velvet zinc

[velvet zinc]

I have a relatively small comp and I'm currently training t2. Still below 50mil however I do want to know what fams to put on my wall so I don't put random shit

[idle marsh]

welp if u r still under 50mil, imma guess u r f2p

maxing the stacking fams will takes ages as f2p tbh

just go for aquirus and evil weevil, IF U R F2P, they can be completed really fast

[unreal folio]

Aw personally i've been taking rallies at that indicated comp for quite a while now. Port and counter.

And yeah it's a struggle against full mythic. No burn but decent walkback

[idle marsh]

if you have like gold mythic gear then its fine tbh

just get some seige they help a little for walkbacks

[unreal folio]

I got 45k t4 siege and it doesn't work lol. But kinda lower t4 count. I know its both. I've made some tweaks since last strong rallies but tbh I'm fine with smoking if its kvk

[velvet zinc]

No shit, I asked what the best f2p fams were on a wall

[idle marsh]

lol sorry i didn;t read that... lmao,,, welp just go for aquiris and weevil

[velvet zinc]

alright, thanks

[idle marsh]

sorry im half blind

haha

[idle marsh]

what r yr mix stats?

[open sand]

Gryphon is good for attacking or holding fort. Wouldn't put on wall though

[unreal folio]

445 army health

[hollow aspen]

Is that with talents?

I also only have a basic comp but I've never been rallied

[idle marsh]

lol yeah stats do make a difference for walkbacks, cuz i had 460 mix when i used that comp

better the stats faster u kill the enemy so more time for troops to kill seige

[unreal folio]

Yeah with talents

[hollow aspen]

Real nice

I think this means I'm gonna burn

[unreal folio]

I came up in 852. I kinda grew proportional to the strongest rally leads in the kingdom until it went unprotected. Then migrated back where accounts were older and stronger

[idle marsh]

lol yr gear is good

just get full gold jewels and no walkbacks xD

[unreal folio]

Yeah I'm on the jewel grind now

[idle marsh]

nice

with all gold atk jewels ths set will ezily give u 470 mix ish maybe

[unreal folio]

I'm at 335m might intend to stay there. Not doing extra research to add to base stats

[idle marsh]

yeah yeah no more base stats needed

[unreal folio]

Well depending if a watcher event is up cuz I'm dumb like that

Didn't get on watcher medal grind til later on :(

[idle marsh]

bruhh

[unreal folio]

:(

[idle marsh]

do lab, tycoon and merge for watcher

[plain void]

The jewels

[hollow aspen]

I'm in 900 there's only one guy who's a real titan 2b full mythic and 11k

[idle marsh]

dont do research hells for watcher as a trap

[unreal folio]

I've done only a couple times! Important researches!

[idle marsh]

yeah ok

[plain void]

My cav is pretty close to yours

You can really get better stats if you sort your jewels out

[unreal folio]

You're right

[plain void]

My mostly blue gear has just so close stats to yours

Except for inf atk

You can split your gold jewels to 4 purple

[plain void]

And get 12*4= 48 atk instead of 20 from 1 jewel

[unreal folio]

All my jewels in gear are purple or gold

[hollow aspen]

Still way better than mine

[plain void]

Again jewels play an important role

My jewels are Cav all purple

Inf and ranged are purple and blue

[hollow aspen]

I'm still working on hoarder

[plain void]

Actually I just have 1 purple ranged atk and 4 purple inf atk jewels rest are blue

[plain void]

I don't even have pact 4 unlocked

[hollow aspen]

So do u ever take rallies?

[plain void]

Oh wait , This is fam discussion I thought it's Gear tips

[plain void]

I took 2 rallies

Let's s rather take this to #🏹┊equipment

[unreal folio]

Lol naw you're right thanks for the tip I'll retool. I have blast sets

I don't have pact 4 unlocked either

Too much might gain

[plain void]

If you want to rally lead yeah blast is important too , But if you want to take rallies just focus on one mix set and your jewels there too

[unreal folio]

Yeah darknests and forts!

[hollow aspen]

I'm one of those guys who's aim in life is to only to be economical so I work on turf stuff first

But it's bad advice I think really Just do whatever you like and enjoy

[plain void]

True everyone can have their own way of playing the game

[viscid coyote]

What fams should a ral trap have on his wall

I currently have gryph lvl 8 tempisite lvl 9 and this fam that gives an etra %15 max hp

not feeling like maxing gryph or temp cuz i feel they might be changed

[viscid coyote]

lets stay away from pact 5 fams for now

[opal notch]

Gryphon and tempestite are a big no..
I'd suggest the HP reducers or the ones that give 15% attack.
The stacking fams could work depending on your comp, whether you swap fronts and whether you take rally parties or solo rallies

[viscid coyote]

stacking fams seem fine but 1 out of 3 activates if u know what im sayin

depends on whats ur front

15% attack is meh

this is so hard

[green jungle]

maybe the -40% HP per type + -15% all types ones? That said, no idea if there aren't better choices.

[viscid coyote]

-15% is aquiris and i have it maxed

but per type is meh too u never know whats coming and yet again 1 out of 3 activates

[green jungle]

better than nothing, esp. if offline.

[viscid coyote]

i mean u dont really need the other 2 since its your frontline that gets it all done

i like tempisite because it stuns 25%

but gryphon i feel its kinda useless

while defending of course

[opal notch]

Tempestite activates when 10% of your troops die.. same as gryphon

Not good for defense

Also I said the stacking fams could work depending on your comp and whether you swap fronts..
There are traps that always stay in one front so that's why I asked that

But the HP and attack ones are always the best choice

[viscid coyote]

ye im not a rein trap i swap fronts

im convinced now stacking fams or good

[opal notch]

So ixnay on the stacking fams since you swap fronts

[viscid coyote]

although losing %10 is now easy with all em rally leads now

especially when u a normal rally trap not a party rally trap

[opal notch]

That's my wall fams.. I'd use a +15% fam if I didn't have bon

[viscid coyote]

p5 fams all they way bro lol

[opal notch]

Stacking fams are ok if you have a small comp...

But they're a disadvantage if you have a big comp lol

[viscid coyote]

they so expensive tho its gonna take a lot of time since im not a heavy spender

[opal notch]

Bon, Garg and blackwing are the ones good for wall...the others are not

[viscid coyote]

ye

[opal notch]

4% vs 8%

[viscid coyote]

if u have all 3 on wall you are a king

imma go for stacking fams then

[opal notch]

What's your comp like

[viscid coyote]

3.5m each t2 and 1m t4 each

[opal notch]

Hm.. so 4.5m each troop type

[viscid coyote]

yee

losing 450k activates the fam

so stacking fam will be activated 1-3 times if i counter

[opal notch]

For it to activate again, you need to lose a further 405k

[viscid coyote]

will activate 3-10 times if i get countered 😂

its going to activate most def i have never seen a rally without atleast 600k loses

[opal notch]

Yes it will... Pray it doesn't activate more than 3 times lol

[viscid coyote]

i lost 3.6m troops first time i took a rally because i got countered

if i had a stacking fam it would have been activated 8 times hahahahaha

[opal notch]

Lol

Your comp is small so stacking fams are ok. But which one will you have on wall.. all 3?

That's the problem 🙂

Since you swap fronts

[viscid coyote]

well all 3 wont hurt

but i lose hp in the process

I can keep 2 since im always either in inf or range wedge

[opal notch]

Only one will work tho.. at most 2.. if you're in wedge

[viscid coyote]

and if they test comp while im in inf ill switch inf fam with cav

thats the best way to do it

i tested wedge it will never activate the second with 4.5m on the front line unless im not in gears

[opal notch]

In wedge, you have two frontlines...

Take inf wedge as an example

[idle marsh]

best setup that i also use right now : 3 p5 fams that activate at 4% loss and deal 600% dmg + aquiris + evil weevil

if you have a very big comp then do the 3 (-40%) ones

[opal notch]

Inf/range front. When half your inf gets cleared, the enemy troops will engage your range

[viscid coyote]

thats in inf wedge

the 3.6m im talking about

[idle marsh]

gryphon is OP when get countered

for traps

[viscid coyote]

gryphon and temp saved my ass on this

I was at 1% morale

[idle marsh]

but the problem is that they dont proc if you counter the enemy

[opal notch]

They didn't clear half your inf

[idle marsh]

pretty normal for traps

[viscid coyote]

well im not planning on getting countered again

[opal notch]

So range will stay untouched

[idle marsh]

1 p5 + aquiris + evil weevil

get yr bon maxed

or you can keep aqui + evil + gryphon ..... cuz the bon will do between 100-250k dmg only

but gryphon will be life saver in case of counter

[opal notch]

Imagine getting countered

[idle marsh]

image imagining so much

[viscid coyote]

it happened 😭

[idle marsh]

imagine playing lords

[viscid coyote]

gryphon is ass rn since its at lvl 8

id rather save up for bon

[idle marsh]

hmm ok

[unreal folio]

I put the 3 stacking fams on my wall with a tc of about 11.5m

[normal meadow]

That's not the way to go, stacking fams on wall is a bad idea. You'd need to lose 1mil troops before it does anything. I'm sure you've heard this quite a bit.

[unreal folio]

Nah that's gryphon

My bad I meant specifically the attack stacking pact 3 fams. 10% of 1/3 of 11.5 is closer to 375k losses of a troop type before it activates.

I agree gryphon is a shit choice for the wall because it activates only after (and only once) 10% of your total troops die.

[forest trout]

Any tips for improvment? Should I destroy some springs for spires?

[normal meadow]

Well depends, are you pact merging or training?

That will heavy influence the layout

[forest trout]

Kinda trying to do both

[normal meadow]

Hmmm, okay then that's fine.

That would be what my layout would look like if I was both merging and training

[timid sparrow]

4 springs, 3 gyms and one spire is optimal

[upper moat]

I use 1 spire, 1 gym, rest springs

[normal meadow]

Yeah lol why so many gyms?

[opal notch]

To

[sly galleon]

Pay

[dreamy jungle]

I am starving for these

[gritty trellis]

Oooohhh Russians

I thought they didn't exist on discord

[teal jungle]

Why would you think that?

[pulsar plaza]

Maybe he made all needed fams now boosting training

[velvet zinc]

new theory guys

russians don't exist on discord specifically

everywhere else they do

[vocal anvil]

No . Russians just don't exist . Have you ever seen a Russian ? Exactly

[limpid lava]

If I join a rally and have tidal titan active and the rally burns, will the target random port even if I’m not the rally lead

[opal notch]

No

[limpid lava]

Awesome thank you

[steel rain]

We just zerod a offline player, and on the last hit the news said the defending leader was captured, but rescued by familiar. I don’t think I’ve seen this before. They had hell drider prison escape +6%. How does this work? I thought it reduced escape time by 6% of leader is capture. But this worked instantly. Can anyone explain hell driders talent ?

[frigid talon]

hell drider gived a chance to free ur leader if its caped its just loke bunny but a low chance

[steel rain]

So he’ll driders talent is if defending, you have a 6% chance of escape if you’re capped?

[frigid talon]

well ik it works on attacking idk about defending

[coral shadow]

It works whenever you get captured. Dosent matter if attacking or defending

[frigid talon]

ah ok

[vocal anvil]

Any form of getting your leader capped . It's basically like a free bunny that is activated 24/7 . That's how some leads get capped but rescued by familiar even if they didn't use bunny . Very useful skill

[steel rain]

I’ve never seen this actually work until today. Unless, it’s happened in the past and I just assume it was the attacker using a bunny. But I’ve never seen it work on a defender until today.

[coral shadow]

I have

[vocal anvil]

Well usually defenders don't level up the skill so it's really rare in defenders . But if they have it's still a 1/10 chance

[onyx crest]

not good if you're offline on defense tho they'll just hit you again

[winged summit]

Best 3 familiars to put on your wall when you only have 2m troops? Incl. Pact 1-4.

[onyx crest]

pyris

[steel rain]

That’s what we did 🙂

40% debuff, aquaris, weevil, the single troop atk boost ones. Make a good combo.

1. aquaris to lower enemy HP by 15%
2. atk boost for your frontline troops
3. 40% hp debuff for counter to your frontline

Alt for #2
Atk boost for the Counter to the frontlines counter
If your frontline is inf, enemy may send cav blast. So familiar 2 could boost range atk.

This way enemy cav blast is HP reduced 55% and range atk is boosted

All these kick in at start of battle and don’t need any troop loss to take effect

[onyx crest]

hell drider on offense is frustrating, you cap a person and their level 1 hell drider pops

[strong chasm]

Love watching people rally with tempisite in March. Lol biggest no no

[lament nexus]

Why? I thought tempestite was decent for attacking.

[opal notch]

Tempestite is ok for attacking if you don't have maggot

[vocal anvil]

Finally . Now just the skill left '_'

[crude jolt]

Your hoarder look a little sick on that screenshot. You might want to not let hard drugs laying around it. Those things ate everything they see

[vocal anvil]

I can't . I'd be still leveling it up of it didn't take a lil . Sharing is caring

[sweet turret]

Why tempestite is a no no? i thought it was good?

[strong chasm]

It's not good

You want both pact 5s, stacking , shield , and gryphon. Most possible dmg

@sweet turret

That's the optimal setup. Anything else produces less damage

@opal notch maggot should never be touched. It's so bad.

[opal notch]

You do realize not everyone has p5 fams right?

[opal notch]

Yes this is the optimal setup. But what if I don't have one of those? Leave the slot blank? Lol

[sweet turret]

thanks @strong chasm i will look into it..i am so sad i am making tempestite to elder now. anyway im still 80m migth, starter

[strong chasm]

Think with no pact 5. It's gryphkn tempisite, stacking, shield, than attack increase.

[opal notch]

This is my range setup

[strong chasm]

Lh guy was hitting us with temp, he had champ and 66 stars

[sweet turret]

i dont have pack 5 yet

[opal notch]

Stunning a squad for 10s is pretty good tbh. And it activates same time gryphon does so rip

[strong chasm]

I'd take weevil out and put in the shield

[opal notch]

I'd use the shield fam if I had the shield fam duh

[strong chasm]

Hey some still don't lol

I got all my pact 5s with tycoon.

Such a good deal to awhile though

But the setup you have now is good until than

@opal notch

[opal notch]

[sweet turret]

[opal notch]

And this is my inf :/

So now you know where the yellow orbs went to

[strong chasm]

Yes. That's good

So best fams to get is inf and cav pact 5s first

Than range last

[opal notch]

I'd rather use the p1 fams instead of p5

[unreal folio]

Why ranged last?

[amber rain]

Most people don't sit in cav phal/wedge so range to kill the front line isn't really needed

Or isn't needed as much

[lament nexus]

Alternatively, do range first and only hit people sitting in cav phal

[sly galleon]

What's the optimal Mystic Spire/Gym/Spring ratio in the early game? (recently unlocked Pact 3)
I'm at 2/4/2..but maybe it's too many gyms..

[coral shadow]

1/4/3 at pact 3. 1 spire should be enough for overnight merging

I was once at 1/6/1 but that was after I unlocked pact 4 and get a few runes

Also it might have changed since you get familiar exp items left and right now and I didnt get a single when I did familiar

[limpid lava]

If I unlock all t4 but siege and I use convocation, will it be one of the random t4 that I have unlocked excluding siege or is there a chance it will give me t3 siege

[vocal anvil]

I'm gonna guess that it's gonna give t3 siege . I think it chooses a random troop type and gives you the highest tier of it . But not 100% sure since i haven't tried it

[lament nexus]

No siege

[teal jungle]

It will only give you a random T4 from the ones you unlocked

[winged lintel]

Need a shield dropping familiar

[normal meadow]

That wouldn't be okay. That would honestly be game breaking. This would open up a lot bro, it would cause a huge mess.

[dense mulch]

Serpent gladiator lineup ?

F2p

[opal notch]

Still testing, but use your regular magic lineup for now

Goblin, incinerator, elementalist, snow queen, petite devil

[dense mulch]

To jest mój regularny ale zadaje mniej obrażeń, myślałam że ma ktoś mocniejszy

Sorry

This is my regular one but it does less damage, I thought someone stronger has

[opal notch]

Three hits to kill a level 2 for me.. normal tbh

Level 3-5 will need tweaked lineups

[crude jolt]

What grade is your petite devil Asa ?

[opal notch]

Blue

[spare ledge]

Which fam should i work on for attack & defence in F2P

[tropic scroll]

How many orbs do you have,red and yellow ones

Also,how many familiar battle slots do you have

Defense f2p wise,generally you would wanna use wevil and aquairis+a stacker of your choice+if you can get 4th slot,a 80% hp increase for 1 troop type of your choice

[opal notch]

Stackers ftw.. I have 30m troops and I use stackers

[spare ledge]

I can afford only 3 Battle slot
I have trickster range attck at max
And working on getting more red orbs

I have only 117 yellow orbs

[teal jungle]

Gryphon

[steel rain]

You don’t want stackers for defense…those are for rallies and solos

30m troops…you need to lose 3 million for it to stack once. 6 million losses for it to stack twice. If f2p you want aquaris, weevil, plus a familiar that activates at start of battle. I suggest the 40% debuff. Whatever is your frontlines counter, debuff that in case they send it. This will reduce frontline damage when attacked

Offense f2p you want stacker, the shield ones that protect from killing blow, griffen, aquaris

[spare ledge]

👍

[opal notch]

Whatttttt

[opal notch]

But... But.. but...

[tropic scroll]

My sugesstion was based on the fact that he has limited orbs,pretty sure he won't have orbs to level up a debuffer till like lvl 6 atleast

[opal notch]

You do realize the HP debuffers are the cheapest fams to max? Lol

[teal jungle]

Only 117 yellow orbs. No red mentioned

[opal notch]

Referring to this

[opal notch]

And this

[crude jolt]

Come on Asa, you have been told time and time again that stacker aren't good for defenses by Asa. You should really listen to Asa more =p

[opal notch]

Who is this Asa you speak of? Sounds like a wanker

[crude jolt]

I let you judge for yourself. just scroll up, find the messages made by that user and judge away

[opal notch]

Yeesh. He sounds like an insufferable know-it-all

[green jungle]

what do the shield fams do exactly btw?

'protect from killing blow' to me suggests 'sends more to infirmary'

but y'all seem to be suggesting it does something different

[opal notch]

If you watch the replays, you'll notice each squad has a health bar on em. When the health bar drops to 0, the squad is eliminated

The shield fam protects a squad that is supposed to be eliminated (killing blow)

[green jungle]

so they are immortal, and keep on fighting, and always return?

[crude jolt]

I assume they are protected once. they just don't die that one time. so they basically live until the next blow. (well... the one that got the shield at least)

[green jungle]

yeah but if that's it they do fuck all

[opal notch]

Yeah they're not immortal lol

[green jungle]

or do they regenerate all health, too?

[opal notch]

It's good cos you deal more damage, and have a higher chance of getting a walkback

[crude jolt]

it's not great, but that give the soldier an opportunity to attack instead of dying so... I guess it's not useless

[green jungle]

honestly, the LM description of the skill is so fucking vague

[opal notch]

Watch battle replays, you'll see the shield

You'll see exactly how long it lasts for too

[green jungle]

but who would get it, if it was clear all it means is 'they die 1 hit later'?

okay

[crude jolt]

Thats what I assume. I didn't try it because it sounded not good enough to invest my limited orb in

[opal notch]

Yeah gryphon is the first you should invest yellow orbs in

Then the shield fams if you don't plan on awakening the p5 fams

[green jungle]

okay

[clever reef]

Is there a familiar that boosts amina storage?

Nvm, found it. Bonehead.

[dreamy breach]

i want to clarify so best f2p familiar to defend against rallies are debuff familiars?

[normal meadow]

Yes

[reef pulsar]

I have a familiar conundrum

I have gem gremlin and trickstar maxed, but my gold goblin is only 47. Obviously the daily gold is really valuable and I intend on maxing him but I also just unlocked pact 4. For a largely f2p/ small p2p the best fam p4 fams are hell drider/hoader/saberfang (prolly best ones in general for support from p4) but I’m not sure which 2 to focus alongside goblin in gyms for xp. I have 3 gyms, 1 spire, 4 springs and I assume since drider is a level 5 fam and the other two are level 4 it would be best to hold off on hell drider until goblin is done since I’ll get runes for hell drider the slowest and thus doesn’t need xp as immediately as the other two. Thoughts anyone? Maybe should I instead focus my other fams that I haven’t maxed like noceros or gryphon or cargo reset timber guy.

[lament nexus]

Hoarder first

[reef pulsar]

What about 3rd slot in gym? Saberfang or hell drider?

[lament nexus]

Hell drider

Once you max hoarder, use that slot for saber

Hell drider takes ages to max

[reef pulsar]

Well I’ll put in saber once goblin is maxed

[lament nexus]

Yea that will probably come first

[reef pulsar]

Yeah, only like 13 levels left on goblin

[lament nexus]

I did aquiris first, then 3 stacking fams, then hoarder/saber/drider, then went back for gryphon and other fams

[reef pulsar]

Sounds awesome, quite literally same path I’m on

[cerulean tree]

hi how much tomes needed to unlock slot 4 familiar

[green jungle]

about 3.5k

[cerulean tree]

thank you

[green jungle]

total, anyway

[cerulean tree]

need to know before i start

[crimson marsh]

Anybody know whats the cost for lvl 10 Contaminate familiar attack?

[brisk sierra]

9 ancient cores i think

[neat merlin]

Hello everyone, I recently opened pact 4, tell me which first familiar to download and why, thanks)

[crimson marsh]

Thats kind of cheap. Thanks for the info

[vocal anvil]

1-Hoarder (jewels are nice)
2-saberfang (hunting is nice)
3-hell drider (t4 is nice)
Do hell drider in second place if you have enough runes by the time you finish hoarder . If not then do them in this order . Pact 4 is nice

[neat merlin]

Thank you very much

[vocal anvil]

Yw :)

[crimson marsh]

Is it true hell drider training skill will give siege most of the time?

[vocal anvil]

Not that i know of . I honestly don't have it yet lol . Still upgrading it . But it says random . But since everyone hates siege you notice it more often . Just a mental thing unless someone here more knowledgeable knows

[plush rivet]

Probably. I don't have it yet but what I have seen most of the time is that it gives siege a lot. But there are other troop types as well.

[green jungle]

I hope not, but then again, 75% of the jewels I get from blue jewel boxes are trap attack, engine attack, wall defense.

[crimson marsh]

Thats really sucks 😅

[vocal anvil]

Well yeah a jewel chest holds 10 jewels . 3 of them you want and 7 you don't . So a 70% chance of getting something you don't want is normal

[low jetty]

Finally unlocked convocation today now the real grind begins to max it

[kindred kiln]

Niceeeee

[onyx crest]

i havent even gotten aquirus to elder

[coral shadow]

Had it for over 2 years by now. No it dosent give seige that often. It definitely isn't over 25%

[low jetty]

Tempestite or stacking which one will you prefer to max first?

They both costing same orbs but that stun troops I guess that is better than stacking

[sharp frost]

👍

[green jungle]

I prefer stacking

[tropic scroll]

Tempesite isn't really good

Get mega maggot if you can

[low jetty]

Mega maggot requires gold orbs lol I am focusing on maxing gryphon first

[torn frost]

#👾┊familiars

[vocal anvil]

Thanks . I was looking for this channel for ages!

[scenic chasm]

This may be a bit of a noob question, I'm looking at the wiki about rune requirements
Do I understand it right that this Gryphon would require a total of 180 runes to max out? 20 to get it to adult and unlock max lvl 50, then another 160 runes to make it elder ?

[teal jungle]

Yup

But also check your math

[scenic chasm]

Mhm, what did i mess up? xD

[teal jungle]

20+50+160 =/= 180

[scenic chasm]

50 = level unlock not a rune # 🤔

[teal jungle]

Isn't it like 200 for elder? I can't remember.

[scenic chasm]

Based on wiki, if it's a t5

[teal jungle]

Yeah accurate then

[scenic chasm]

As a reference if anyone needs it 🤷‍♂️

[teal jungle]

Been a while since I finished them.

[scenic chasm]

Nice 😄
Any tips? xD

[teal jungle]

Work hard and be good to your mother

[scenic chasm]

I've been told to try and speed up runes/merging then build all gyms and focus them 1 by 1 for xp

[scenic chasm]

Always 🙂

[teal jungle]

There's a lot of different opinions on comp for gym/ tower / spring. But no one suggests more than 3 gyms

With a full complement of heroes, and 3 gyms you have to turn over training every 12 hours or so. More often and you're just sitting idle too often because no one is on that regularly over time. It's a game not a full time job

[wicked steppe]

How to win

[clever wadi]

👍

[kind bramble]

Hi

[fleet goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/embarrassed-shy-box-gif-5120735

[vast scarab]

Всем привет

[tight sandal]

#🌏┊languages

[valid delta]

Hi

[candid compass]

[oblique radish]

You have nice Familiar, I would like have the same😀

[orchid meadow]

Hi

[pale sparrow]

🤯

[chilly apex]

[crude mauve]

How many xp bottles for a pact 5 from 0-60?

[sterile marlin]

Best familiar for war?

[amber rain]

P5 familiars

[sweet bluff]

Trickstar and the Gremlin/goblin, the stacking component of their combat abilities is second to none

[stiff cargo]

Can someone share the separate familiar selection for 3 type of troops pls

[upper ledge]

ratio

[coral shadow]

The more you have training at any time the more exp in total. If you only focus one, you are losing hefty amounts of exp, but yes that 1 you focus does go to max quicker.

[coral shadow]

Not true. It was recommend to me and by me. Though it has been a while since I maxed mine on exp and the amount of free exp you get now might have changed it but I doubt that.
If you wanna max all your familiars fast you do need more than 3.

However if you do want to be able to do merge hells too, then yeah no more than 3 gyms.

[prime sparrow]

👍

[blissful lynx]

Hola :(

[subtle sedge]

[sleek sonnet]

Is there a webpage that has charts about which pact merges give (xyz familiars)

Example pact 1a gives dumbledorf

[flat estuary]

Hola que tal

[scenic chasm]

literally if you just googled lords mobile familiar, I like the ones on "marksangryreview"

[sand oriole]

Hiii

[urban ingot]

https://lordsmobile.fandom.com/wiki/Pact

[plain void]

Hello

[sand oriole]

[sand oriole]

Hi ^^

[plain void]

How are you doing

[sand oriole]

Guud and you

[plain void]

Good

[sand oriole]

[hoary cove]

Its P2p pet for F2p

[sand oriole]

Yes ofc 🤣

[stuck lake]

Its somehow satisfying

[sand oriole]

Wow nice bro ^^

[ember edge]

Hey y'all

[sand oriole]

Hi Kat sister

[ocean torrent]

Hi

[twin mural]

Hi

[valid rivet]

Hello guys