👾┊familiars

[brisk sierra]

stfu

[storm vale]

That’s a Easter bunny dum

They need to give Santa, not a bunny.

[brisk sierra]

and you can stfu

[storm vale]

Can you shut up?

[brisk sierra]

can you?

[storm vale]

Sure, but can you?

[livid berry]

[grizzled summit]

[plucky crescent]

Aye peeps, I was thinking of awakening gnome cuz range is my front line and that range atk boost would be nice but I have been thinking about weevil and aquiris too

But i think I should do gnome cuz it’s more cheap

[hazy dove]

Do weevil and aquiris

Then trickster for ranged

[grizzled summit]

I got weevil, gnome and aquiris

[bleak crescent]

[near beacon]

Just got a bon Appeti

[bleak crescent]

Your first one?

[near beacon]

No

9th one

[bleak crescent]

Get all..

How many gems needed for one Grim hit?

[near beacon]

:)

Got a frostwing yesterday and now a bon epite

[plucky crescent]

7.5k gems each chaos core

[hidden sundial]

Gnome I thought he was just gold

[brisk sierra]

huh

[split furnace]

I tot Feris was a heavy P2P

[tame blade]

Does anyone know the skill xp required for frostwing's "Frost Bite" skill Lvl8-10 ?

[ember gulch]

For jadewyrm it’s 2.5m xp probably close to that for frost

For 8-10^^^

[tame blade]

Dont think so... jade wyrm lvl 10 tops at 1,023,520 but lvl 7 frostwing requires 1.6m

[ember gulch]

Idk for frost wing

[tame blade]

It doesnt seem to be the ones people care enough about to track

[upper moat]

level 9 to 10 was 3.1M iirc, but that was also months ago so I could be wrong

[tame blade]

I sincerely hope you are wrong

[plucky crescent]

[broken dune]

[ember gulch]

[zinc fox]

How do I redeem codes

[civic birch]

pull up the bar in the bottom right of your LM screen, and scroll down, on android there should be a redemption codes option, but on apple devices you have to go to the site itself

[proud marten]

does anybody have a estimate on how much Xp is needed for a t4 and/or t5 familiar from lvl 1 to 60 ?
LE: nevermind, found it

[hazy dove]

Please share

[proud marten]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nn5OEgXyeVeiGSQsgEYyoiw0KCMPNAyT9N5zB6QMj-4/edit#gid=0

[unreal thistle]

what is this

[coarse dock]

EXP for familiars per level and depending on their rarity

[unreal thistle]

so it is for that training purpose

am I right

[coarse dock]

Yeah

[unreal thistle]

ok

[umbral barn]

At what point can I deploy my familiars

[vernal reef]

First you have make that familiar to elder stage

[lucid rampart]

When you unlock battle slots and the familiars battle skills

Slots are unlocked through research

[vernal reef]

Then unlock its battle skill

[lucid rampart]

Skills unlocked by taking them to elder stage and awakening the battle skill

[vernal reef]

👍

[umbral barn]

Oh

Yeah that makes sense now

But how do I get it to elder stage

[quartz relic]

start paying

[umbral barn]

Paying??

[quartz relic]

if you wanna go faster sure

[umbral barn]

Id I don't wanna?

I've already upgraded it to max level

[lucid rampart]

Then you need more runes

[umbral barn]

About 5 right

[lucid rampart]

Train them in gym and merge packs for runes

[lucid rampart]

I don’t know, I don’t know how many you have

[umbral barn]

I got 2/5

Now I wish I didn't have so many familiars

[lucid rampart]

Oh gyms you mean

[umbral barn]

Would've been easier to get the rest

[lucid rampart]

2-3 is fine

[umbral barn]

No I need 5 runes

[lucid rampart]

Then merge pacts

[umbral barn]

Too slow

[lucid rampart]

Speed them

[umbral barn]

I only get two runes every 3 hours

I need to upgrade

Oh the games real deep

Lots of crazy stuff

[lucid rampart]

[umbral barn]

Oh and yeah

Um

I'm thinking of migrating

What kingdom D'you advise

[quartz relic]

if you are new kingdom

stay there

[umbral barn]

Why

It's really dry

Nothing ever happens

[lucid rampart]

Because it’s safer if you can’t defend yourself

[umbral barn]

From what

[lucid rampart]

From getting zeroed

[umbral barn]

I mean, even here I get zeroed

All the time

[lucid rampart]

It’ll be worse in a non protected k

[umbral barn]

How bad

Right nowy leader is awaiting execution

[lucid rampart]

Depends on the kingdom

But it won’t be any better

[umbral barn]

Can't be worse than this

[lucid rampart]

What’s your might?

[umbral barn]

3 million

[lucid rampart]

Yea stay in your protected k

[umbral barn]

There are other protected kingdoms

I'm just looking for an exciting one

Which one are you in

[lucid rampart]

If you can’t defend against attacks anyway then what’s the point

[lucid rampart]

Somewhere between 100 and 500

[umbral barn]

Exactly

[brisk sierra]

why you asking for kingdoms in familiar channel

[ember gulch]

Does Trojan Ability 3 work for forts and base (does it increase the troops we can put in?)

[quartz relic]

yea

mega expensive tho

[umbral barn]

Is it possible to own a frostwing?

[tame blade]

Yes

[umbral barn]

Or a jade wyrm

[quartz relic]

[tame blade]

Jade wyrm only available in $5 pacts

Are you worry frogging my lvl 7 frost bite skill

[quartz relic]

no im worryfrogging max frostwing

[umbral barn]

Holy sh-

[tame blade]

Rather use my cores on that than my leads cores when they need huey/bw/trojan

Its not max yet just the runes...

[umbral barn]

Where D'you get those

[tame blade]

Tycoon

Venom rotation

[quartz relic]

[umbral barn]

Oh

C lv 21

[tame blade]

[umbral barn]

Long way from that

[quartz relic]

i am, of course, close to max all pact 5

[tame blade]

Well you probably don't need frostwing lol

[quartz relic]

and discord fucking with my emojis

[umbral barn]

What's with everyone and the frog emoji

[tame blade]

I should have known that someone asking if you can own frostwing has no actual use for frostwing fam

[umbral barn]

Duh

[tame blade]

Where's the worry frog copy pasta

[quartz relic]

no worryfrog copypasta

[tame blade]

Jade wyrm still tiny and cute

[quartz relic]

baby wrym

[brisk sierra]

castle level dont really matter

you can just buy the pack

[frank vector]

Hey guys, what's the next best familiar to upgrade to army talent once you finished to max trickstar, goblin and gremlin ?

[dreamy epoch]

tempestite

or aquiris

don't have pack 4, do don't know about them

[dreamy epoch]

those are for attack

[coral viper]

I’d work on economy fams like Aquarius totempest bonehead

You prob won’t be attacking for a long while

[near beacon]

Yes i have one , cute baby one

[toxic summit]

Pyris is the most overrated familiar

[quartz relic]

^ This

[silk elk]

I spent ages getting him. Would have been great to have fireball at the start of the game, but by the time you get it .... and I've not bothered to awaken battle skill either

[quartz relic]

the fireball is more of a showoff skill

throw it at tile hitters and mosnter stealers to kill their t1 and crap

but it doesnt have much use beyond that

the battle skill sucks as well, the help skills not that great either

[tame blade]

Pyris can check if a target has troops in case you set on fury target without testing and dont wanna carpet on it... but ideally someone would just solo otherwise could carpet cross map to kill 1mil troops

Also good for when you find someone with only t4. Or to check for a 2x-3x scout

Mine is still only level 3. I'm focusing on maxing frostwing instead

As for awakened ability... ive covered it many times so just going to say: no.

[quartz relic]

yea i got a t4 pyris bookmarked

[ember gulch]

[silver girder]

@quartz relic pyris is dope man. If someone for some reason only has t2 or t4 a guild can gut check tf outta some kid.

[upper moat]

it's gonna take a lot of pyris hits to kill 30M t2

[bleak crescent]

[night tapir]

Ward

[ember gulch]

Use queen bee fam atk

[silver helm]

dokkeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[night tapir]

?warn @silver helm no spamming channels

[clear basin]

陳泰暉#8275 has been warned. || no spamming channels

[coarse dock]

He's gonna get banned with all these warn

[quartz relic]

do the warns do anything? like a set amount will mute/ban?

or is it just a hey you did something wrong mods are watching

[lucid rampart]

I think it says in the rules

[coarse dock]

I think 5 warns is a ban?

idk

[lucid rampart]

Read rules, it says iirc

[quartz relic]

leads to a mute

temporary mute

[coarse dock]

o

[lucid rampart]

[plucky crescent]

Hmmm I need help on deciding something

I wanna awaken my first familiar

But my aquiris is 40/80 runes so far but lvl up 50 with 40 orbs

And my gnome is lvl 35 with 37/40 til elder with 40/15 orbs to awaken

I’m choosing gnome cuz range will mainly be my frontline

So which one do y’all think I should save for?

[ember gulch]

Ur saying ur choosing gnome

So save for gnome

[hazy dove]

Aquarius. Better value

[elder trellis]

Actually get those 3

[shy portal]

No...get aquarius until and unless u got orbs for all of them

[elder trellis]

You can get 2 of them instead of Aquarius

[ember gulch]

Get bon

That’s better

[brisk sierra]

get the 3 +15% atk ones

[ember gulch]

[brisk sierra]

45atk better thsn 40 hp decrease

[near beacon]

Im so fucking happy

[elder trellis]

You multiply 15by3 but not 40by3

Nice

[brisk sierra]

because who sends mix rallies at player

[ember gulch]

Me

[brisk sierra]

people send spears meaning only 1 of the 3 hp decrease fams will be useful

meanwhile on defense all 3 of your troops will be attacking

therefore the 15by3 and not 40by3

nice

[elder trellis]

But you only considered defending not attacking

[brisk sierra]

why would you use 3 40 hp decrease for attacking

1 i would understand but 3?

2 wasted fam slots

[elder trellis]

Because the enemy is most likely to have 3 troop types for defense

🤯

[brisk sierra]

but how would you know which is their frontline in case they're online

for attacking you normally use familiars that boosts damage of the troop of what you're sending or damage based on that

[shy portal]

Is it the same amount of orbs to max out all 3 of those as opposed to maxing only aquaris

Because ain't no way u getting so many orbs as f2p

[ember gulch]

Actually it’s pretty ez to get orbs as f2p

Just complete those hell and 24h events by merging pacts

[shy portal]

Lol who gonna give u speeds to complete them

[ember gulch]

All u need to do is get decent fam gear

U save up

[brisk sierra]

kvk and cargo gives alot too

[ember gulch]

Yeah

[shy portal]

Your choose I guess

[ember gulch]

If ur lucky u can get like 29 red orbs for like 5mil stone

[brisk sierra]

daily gift, kvk, cargo, hell event, 24hr

[ember gulch]

[shy portal]

Cause I am f2p..been playing for like 7 months now...I got enough orbs only to get Aquarius skill to lvl 4

It's tough

[brisk sierra]

not really

i got enough orbs for trickstar lvl9 and 4 other t1 level 9-10

[shy portal]

Speaking from experience...though I could have just been unlucky

i got enough orbs for trickstar lvl9 and 4 other t1 level 9-10
@brisk sierra
F2p?..and how long u been playing?

[brisk sierra]

i consider myself f2p in familiars

[split furnace]

I’ve been playing for 3 moths and all fam maxed IGG earn a lot

And I almost got zeroed 😦

[shy portal]

i consider myself f2p in familiars :PepeLaugh:
@brisk sierra
Lol yaa...it don't work like that

[split furnace]

Do I have to put my guild name tag on my name?

[shy portal]

And I almost got zeroed 😦
@split furnace
Just got zeroed a few minutes ago lol....my timer went off...logged in to game to re sheild ...I get attacked as soon as my sheild drops and I login....but the store screen comes up..so couldn't sheild in time

Sorry for tagging both of you

[split furnace]

Oh that’s sad

[shy portal]

Ye happens I guess

[night tapir]

No. Only if you want to advertise what guild you're in

[plucky crescent]

soo aquiris?

[lilac plover]

Defending?

Maybe get +15 -15 HP then get the 3 +15 attk.

Unless u want pact 3 attk ones

[plucky crescent]

Ya ok

I just got my gnome to 40/40 runes

But only lvl 37

[proven kayak]

Which familiar gives 1,000 troops? And which pact? TIA

[quartz relic]

hell drider

10k troops when maxed everyfew days

pact 4

[long mural]

Tempestite Pact 2A
Gives 20k t1 every 3 days when maxed

[lucid rampart]

@proven kayak both of those listed above

[proven kayak]

Thanks

[quartz relic]

[proven kayak]

Thanks

[tame blade]

15k t4 when maxed, 3 days

[quartz relic]

Wow

[tame blade]

Assuming you have t4 unlocked

[quartz relic]

[split furnace]

Just imagine if hell drider gives t5 lol

[half shell]

So if u have unlocked t5 then u will get them.

[shy portal]

No it doesn't

Max is t4

[broken dune]

Lol

[shy portal]

Lol

[soft panther]

No one attacks me with familiar

[coral viper]

No one wants to waste their familiars on trash

Lol jk

[quartz relic]

[soft panther]

No it's not the problem, most of the P2P players are now moving out our kingdom

[quartz relic]

Which kingdom?

[soft panther]

I am not going to tell

[quartz relic]

[soft panther]

We want freedom

[quartz relic]

[lucid rampart]

It’s probably closed

[quartz relic]

Freedom from what?

[soft panther]

No it's open

[quartz relic]

There’s no such thing

[soft panther]

From P2Ps

[upper moat]

open for me to migrate

[quartz relic]

As f2p kingdom

[upper moat]

I'm f2p can I join your guild

[quartz relic]

Funniest statement I’ve seen today

[soft panther]

Thanks for the compliment

[quartz relic]

Don’t worry

There’s still p2p in your kingdom

Perhaps just not heavy

[soft panther]

Yeah there is...

[quartz relic]

Other term for that is dead kingdom

Like ours

[soft panther]

No it's not we are zombies

[quartz relic]

[soft panther]

Half dead

[gaunt gull]

Guys how can I build more than 1 building at a time?

[quartz relic]

you cant

and also wrong channel

[gaunt gull]

okay thanks mb

[ember gulch]

Does Blackwing work on enemy troops already in infirms?

[quartz relic]

i do not think so, just for the current battle

[hazy dove]

No

[broken dune]

[umbral barn]

Hey guys

Uh, how can i speed up my familiar's training

I got it up to adult stage and I really wanna get it to elder

And yeah, what are "army talents?"

I heard they work regardless of shield activity

Can I deploy a familiar in battle? Monster hunts? Colosseum?

[brisk sierra]

Well you heard wrong

Army talent don’t have anything to do with shields

[umbral barn]

Well what are they

[night tapir]

In familiars? It's skills they have when you send them out with your army.
To do this you need to get the familiar to elder, unlock it's army talent, and unlock the research that lets you send a familiar to battle

It's a long game. Don't expect to get it in the first month.

[tame blade]

Maybe they meant that the army talents are unaffected by fam wards. If someone is attacked by familiar skills enough (pyris, maggot, frostwing, bee, grim reaper etc) then a ward shows that keeps them from getting attacked by a fam again for awhile.

Deploying a familiar in battle is unaffected by wards but obviously if target is shielded you can't hit.

[deft drift]

Hi

[raw saddle]

I got 400red balls to spend on Familliars, any suggestions which ones? Got everyone from Pact3

[lucid rampart]

Stacking familiars

[ember gulch]

Red balls

[brisk sierra]

red balls > blue balls

[uncut crow]

Hi

Giys

Can I know what to do with familiars

How to play

I which way I should play it

[brisk sierra]

[uncut crow]

Tell me guys

[brisk sierra]

[lucid rampart]

Lilu can you ask a more specific question?

[uncut crow]

Okok

First step should I unluck pyrish

Or Aquarius

Harpy or territe

[brisk sierra]

[wise imp]

Aquarias first in my opinion, because it gives stamina to level heroes faster

[wintry geode]

aquarias 😮 df

[wary hazel]

Pyris takes forever, focus on upgrading day-to-day useful familiars first

Loads of stamina per day are much more important than throwing a fireball per month

[brisk sierra]

per month

[wary hazel]

How frequently do you use Pyris?

[brisk sierra]

every 30min

[wary hazel]

Lol

Well ok then!

I'd say Aquiris, Totempest, Bonehead, perhaps Harpy... Then by that time you'll have pact 3 and will want to get gold and gems and stars before fireballs too

[royal tangle]

They should add a familiar that instanly lunch a rally maybe 10 min cool down for 2 chaos cores per use :3 just makes life easier to zero traps in fury

[hazy dove]

You want something to zero traps in fury faster while traps in fury want something to protect them

What you want IGG to do now?

[night tapir]

We all know IGG will simultaneously implement both suggestions and charge $ for it. Profiting on playing both sides against each other ;)

[weak kelp]

💯

😍

😢

😆

Yes mygoot

[brisk sierra]

dont spam

you retard

[weak kelp]

@hazy dove

[hazy dove]

Why did you ping me?

Do I know you?

[brisk sierra]

@hazy dove

[hazy dove]

Bruh

[worldly carbon]

Thanka for sharing.

[quick leaf]

what's a bright talent orb

[coral viper]

Item used to upgrade familiar army talent

[fading current]

Start with trickster

[plain void]

Happy holidays! Does counter research affect how much damage t5 familiars do?

[hazy dove]

No

[flat harness]

👍

[plain void]

Ok thanks

[keen parcel]

Is Jaziek a good familiar to awaken. I have 20/20 orbs ( idek how, I just have them ). It's at adult stage and level 50.. I'm at 2/40 runes doe

[plain void]

When is 150% familiar exp boost event going to come:( ??

[wary hazel]

It's not the worst, but... pact 3 familiars are so much better... Try to awaken Goblin/Gremlin/Trickstar first... If the problem is lack of orbs, they're worth the wait. If you haven't researched pact 3 yet, see if you can work on it, it's worth it.

[crimson echo]

How long will it take to max out t3 staking familiars

They are almost to lv 15 now

[keen parcel]

k

[shadow cove]

Almost halfway left to make my pryis become elder.

[amber storm]

#rank

[shy portal]

Just why

[night tapir]

I don't like Mondays

[hollow idol]

Hhhhh

[tidal sand]

What familiar Army Talent would ya’ll suggest I upgrade first? I have the option for Gnome, Yeti, Engineer, Terraspike, Magmalord, Oakroot, and Jaziek. Or I can wait for Harpy, Beastmaster, Territe, Aquiris, Bonehead, or Bouldur. I would say Pyris too, but waiting to get to 80 Talent Orbs seems a bit unrealistic. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance!

[night tapir]

Army talent? Wait for pact 3 at least

If you want something small to tide you over, pick the one with the troop types boost that you'll most use

[tidal sand]

Ooo. Alright. Will do. I can save up the Talent Orbs for that. Thanks!

[arctic dove]

What is recommended familiar to spend brilliant orbs for f2p player? Thanks

[ember gulch]

600% fams

How to get: Tycoon / Bargain Shop

[long mural]

Gryphon for pact 3 f2p

[shadow cove]

[muted kayak]

Gryphon

[coral shadow]

Gryphon

[grizzled summit]

Frostwing

[umbral barn]

I just unlocked my familiars support skill yesterday

Aquiris

Is it possible to upgrade it?

[brisk sierra]

yea

1-10

[umbral barn]

Is so, how do I go about it

[brisk sierra]

you level up the skill with fragment/rune/training

[umbral barn]

Also, my terraspike is on adult stage

But has no support skills

What's the problem

[brisk sierra]

some has

some dont

[umbral barn]

Oh

If I upgrade my support skills, what effect does it have

[brisk sierra]

for some like aquiris shorter cooldown and more sta

[umbral barn]

Yes

[brisk sierra]

for others like evil weevil the amount you gain is the same but also reduce cooldown

[umbral barn]

So other than aquiris, what other familiar D'you suggest I work on

[brisk sierra]

uh

like the familiar itself or the support skill?

[umbral barn]

The familiar

I've been training only terraspike for a while now

[brisk sierra]

you have pact 2 unlocked?

[umbral barn]

Ywah

Yeag

Yeah

😂😂

Sorry

[brisk sierra]

try maxing aquiris first since it'll help getting your heros max

then territe

fragments are always nice

[umbral barn]

What does territe do

[brisk sierra]

the first skill gives you merging pact speed

[umbral barn]

Awesome

Wait

[brisk sierra]

the second gives you 5-30x3 fragments per 24hr when maxed

[umbral barn]

Crazy

[brisk sierra]

are you a hyper of any sort?

[umbral barn]

I only need to get em to adult stage right?

[umbral barn]

A what?

[brisk sierra]

territe needs to be elder for you to use the support skill

hyper as in do you produce any resource specifically?

[umbral barn]

Yeah

Wheat

Food

Whatever it's called

[brisk sierra]

ok then getting terraspike max is a good choice

[umbral barn]

That's a slight drawback

[brisk sierra]

also go for evil weevil since it gives food production and 4 hours of your production

[umbral barn]

I'm pretty impressed with aquiris

[brisk sierra]

yea its actually good for a pact 1 familiar

[umbral barn]

I was wondering why they stopped giving me braveheart

[brisk sierra]

for overtime growth go for bonehead pact 2B more collosseum attempts

bravehearts from ap quest?

[umbral barn]

Yeah

[brisk sierra]

if you leveled up your castle level to a point they stop giving

[umbral barn]

Exactly

Lv 18

Makes sense now

Aquiris supplies the STA

They started giving family experience vials instead

If you use em to upgrade aquiris, you get STA

Thanks a lot bro. Or girl, whichever one you are

[brisk sierra]

no worries

[coarse dock]

He's hefemale

[brisk sierra]

hey bby

[coarse dock]

Sup bby

Aussies are gonna be popping soon

[brisk sierra]

happy new years

[coarse dock]

[night tapir]

Yeah. 2021 so far is pretty much the same as last year

[coarse dock]

So we can ideally say this is 2020.2

[lucid rampart]

No

It’s 2021

[coarse dock]

We felt it first (forget the kiwis) it pretty much feels like 2020

[lucid rampart]

[umbral barn]

Happy new year to everyone who's already in 2021

I'm not

[shadow cove]

How am i being slow to get my pryis being elder?

[quartz relic]

Likely are f2p below 50mil

[toxic atlas]

[raw saddle]

I'm f2p and i have 115mil 🙂

Got zeroed once... normally i would have 160mil...

[plain void]

So, it looks like for familiars like bon they only do damage if you send the same troop type (inf)? So, they wouldn’t work in a range blast for example. Does that sound right?

[plain void]

What are best war familiars? Do I mainly want to focus pact 5 for war and what about the pact 4 familiars with shields? Should I use them? Any links or videos you can share would be great thanks!

[plain void]

150% familiar exp boost pls

[ember gulch]

no

[brisk sierra]

no

[dim ruin]

@plain void griffins awaken skill is really good.

wish they would add awaken skills to the rest of the familiars like grim reaper.

[ember gulch]

Learn to spell gryphon

[grizzled summit]

[quartz relic]

[timber plume]

[shadow cove]

😄

[bold tide]

[mossy locust]

I'm new here.. How do FAMILIARS work? Thanks

[night tapir]

You do the research to unlock them, you merge pacts in the mystic spire to get them, and you train them in gyms to level them up.
You will also need Springs to generate anima (RSS just for familiars) and the monsterhold building to manage all of it.
Take some time to read all the info on each familiar in each pact before you go too far, look at what passive skills they have and what talents and army boosts. Then focus on the ones you want

[long mural]

Thanks @ zauberwald. that was very informative and helpful! Appreciate it!

[livid berry]

[ember gulch]

Thanks zauberwald, that was very informative and helpful! Appreciate it!

[abstract fox]

Late reply but hasn't been answered yet so here is some advice I have been given by a guildmate. I haven't tested it myself for lack of thousands of dollars to throw away on LM. My fams are just enemy army hp and def down and my army hp up so far.

"For defensive it is very troop #'s and comp dependent on any familiar that performs X action after Y% troops have fallen. If you have tens of millions of troops and they aren't dying, those familiars aren't going to activate. So your Wall familiars should be ones that do X at the start of battle in that case.

If attacking, things are pretty much reversed. DN's just use fams to counter their largest troop comp. For castles let's go with a scenario of range blast vs a cav front line and a massive t2 range back line. I would send evil nasty destruction x5 (queen bee), range atk up at start (gnome), range atk up every 10% they die (trickstar), stun largest squad (tempestite), and range shield (snow beast). You should hope to lose enough troops quick enough to have multiple stacks of atk by the later waves of queen bee's attack, and live long enough to have it last the duration. Not in the attack but very important to damaging that front line is Jade Wyrm (no talent) for the counter atk 15%.

You could also go for just the front line and do cav hp/def down 40% (jaziek & beastmaster), army atk 200% (gryphon), range shield, and stun. Once the front line is down, then swap to counter the remnants.

Budget method, get your 2x pact 1 fams that do 15% army hp/def down, and your pact 2 15% army hp/def up and use them for wall and attack. For a fifth fam, and if you have red orbs still, I like tempestite over pyris. Stun vs hero skill damage which usually gets wasted on the wall. If you don't get the paid familiars go for Gryphon's tailwind 200% army atk and put all the yellow orbs on just that."

[plain void]

Thanks for reply this is very helpful

[quartz relic]

yea...he did it nice

normally, leads use the stacking fam, pact 5 600%, pack 5 120%, shield fam, and gryphon for blasts

of course, not everyone can get the pact 5's, those can be replace with the hp 40% familiars and an army familiar, or stun familiar

biggest mistake is never to use def fams, and pyris battle skill is overrated and should not be used

[plain void]

Ok awesome thanks for help guys

[coral viper]

Pyris isn’t overrated no one thinks it’s good

It’s army talent

Yes pyris sux I would just recommend u locking after u finish essential fams and you just use it to troll, gf, or for fun

[dense yoke]

What lmao

Pyris is one of the best f2p fams

60% of 25 is okay, but 60% of 50% is great, on 5 heroes? It's better than gear

Prove me wrong

Go on

I got time

You know, a person named Marty ran the guild RBP in k8, where I started

Your name isn't endearing me at all

Now that you're here, show me a better f2p fam than pyris

So which one, in specific terms, is better than a 50% boost to all 5 heroes

None of them can give a 150% boost

Pyris can

I assume you're trolling right

Pyris boosts TACTIC skills

aka the 30% att 50% hp

50% each

x5

Go fucking look at it

Read it

One time

Trust me, I'll wait

.

Wait

WAIT

WAIIIIT

No not really

But you are right on the tactics

But %s don't work like that

Plus emps already are

._.

Friend

Slow your roll

Yeah, neat, you knew more than me on fams

But I been playing longer than emp been a thing

Imagine

Real talk I don't need to

I buy wolf sigils and t5

I don't need to know shit homie

Good thing knowing it doesn't mean you got it 😭

Feel free to take my place lmao

[dense yoke]

At the end of the day

I'm in a 100b+ guild, and you are not

So

uwu

I mean if you can buy your way in, you should

Get 100 wolf and get into a top tier guild 😦

[coral shadow]

You might have played longer but you know less of the game, and you keep on proving it.

Besides who wants to be in a guild that allows people as you in? You don't even know how procents are added together in the game. Really basic stuff.

[coral viper]

Bruh

The skill would be good but not enough time

By the time the squads actually fight the skill ends

[livid berry]

[plucky crescent]

Lmao

[dense hinge]

Dont need to know shit if all u do is fill

[livid berry]

[coral viper]

I don’t even fill I just know because I’m big fucking brain

[lucid rampart]

Stop spamming

[quartz relic]

Delete

[half shell]

Will anyone explain me the tidal titan's third ability...

[night tapir]

After you attack a Castle it puts a random relo on the Castle. Pretty self explanatory

[half shell]

But it will put random relo on whose turf... My or enemy ??

[cursive heron]

Good for

Saving your teammate @half shell

if they have rss but they must burn when you use it

If you smoke it Fails

[half shell]

Uff... Still don't know what the skill is for

[thick marsh]

Read

[brisk sierra]

smh

[livid berry]

Its like hitting someone in wonder zone

Nice waste a skillstones

[half shell]

But why this will relocate enemy turf if we already burnt him

[livid berry]

Because that's the skill

[thick marsh]

Idk.. Ask the familiar

[brisk sierra]

ask the dev

[livid berry]

Mind if I ask how old are you?

[half shell]

Why ??

[livid berry]

Just curious

[brisk sierra]

so we can lower standards and have more patience

[livid berry]

[quartz geode]

U can use the skill to relocate someone when u burn them. Lets say they are in the middle of your hive and wont move, you can use that skill to remove them.

[alpine nova]

At what level can I use prison break hell drider skill

I have it to lvl 4 but I don’t see anything showing

[ember gulch]

U can use it at any level

It gives a chance of your leader escaping if u get capped

It’s not a confirmed escape

Just a chance

It’s basically a worse version compared to bunny

[plain void]

By worse bob means it only activates when you don’t want it to lmao

[ember gulch]

U don’t know what I think

U can’t assume that

The assumption method never works

Unless maybe if it’s used in math

[abstract fox]

Pyris is a good fam for when there isn't a wall. Things such as guild showdown, DA/bases, and garrison traps. Walls make pyris useless as by the time the wall comes down the skill is generally over. I do give him a solid C+.

[prisma drift]

Well he is only good to build up a ward

[long mural]

C+ is a solid grade for Pyris.....
That's what he meant

[abstract fox]

Because he isn't as horrid as you think. He is just limited at what he is good at, which isn't much.

[hardy solstice]

Does anyone here knows how many technolabes are required for Familiar Battle Slot IV??

[plain void]

Maybe 10..i finished it with technolables but I don't remember how many I spent...

[hexed vortex]

Need some help for fast training familiar ..🙄

[thick marsh]

Get heroes golden, get gears and spend monies

[night tapir]

8 I think it was.

[jolly tulip]

best familiars for food hyper?

[quartz relic]

id reccommend all the pact 5 familiars

for a food hyper, ofc

[jolly tulip]

okay that would take a lot of time xD

and pact 2 evil weevil??

[quartz relic]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/722508436494876773/789077228679987220/13215039778634.jpg

[uneven notch]

Is aquirius a must have familiar?

???

[jolly tulip]

i dont think so

its for hero stages as it gies ap

sta*

[lucid rampart]

you should get it aquiris, it’s very helpful for upgrading heroes

[uneven notch]

Alright thank you

also is being food positive helpful in anyway?

[lucid rampart]

No problem

[lucid rampart]

If you plan to have troops you won’t be food positive

[uneven notch]

0-0 alright bc started an alt not sure what i want it to be

[lucid rampart]

Lots of people have alts for food hypers

[uneven notch]

I have yet to move to my main's guild

yet to move it to my*

[sterile patrol]

allah

[coral viper]

Is a fake donkey

[livid berry]

[midnight fjord]

Still waiting on IGG doing a familiar points boost 😢

[half shell]

Thank u for that amazing chart 👍

[quartz relic]

[viscid egret]

What do the words Talented! mean on certain familiars

[ember gulch]

It means the familiars are talented

[viscid egret]

[scarlet tide]

Are stacking ones from pact 3 good for rally trap?? I know they aren't good for defence in general

[grizzled summit]

Which one would you take if not a stack one

[scarlet tide]

@grizzled summit are u asking or are u telling me since there are no other options better use stacking ones?? I m perplexed

[warped marsh]

Are there codes?

[night tapir]

No

[tender island]

Hey, what’s the best way to increase fam training stats?

[night tapir]

Gear

[tender island]

@night tapir now working on gear thanks... any other also?

[thick marsh]

Research

[long mural]

Another way...
Demolish springs and build gyms

[coarse dock]

A castle skin and a hero

No nitro

[thick marsh]

[warm cove]

320% boost

How many medals per day pact 4

😩😩😩

[split kestrel]

@tame blade do you have a sheet of the drop rates for p4?

[tender island]

What’s the best ratios? I have 1 gym with the theory i will use all heros on one

[long mural]

@tender island It depends on what phase are you in. if you are merging pacts and haven't got the required runes...
1 gym rest springs is good.
But once you have got all runes of familiars you need and want only training stats...then springs don't help.

Demolish springs for gyms then...
Each gym gives 20% training speed at lvl25

[tender island]

I have all runes for pacts 1-3, most are lev 60. I’ll unlock pact4 during GF.....

[long mural]

Keep the springs then if you are very close to p4. P4 fams take a lot of time to get all runes.
My aim was just p2 and p3 so I decided to demolish the springs.
It's just like using infirms and manors. You need to switch them at a point.

[tender island]

Start with manors, build an army then switch to infirms to protect them! That makes sense.

[tender island]

So I have 4 spires / 1 gym. Im now thinking burn 1 spire for 2nd gym for the extra 20%

[long mural]

Spires only give pact capacity. Springs give you merging speed.

https://tenor.com/view/its-completely-up-to-you-your-choice-your-decision-you-decide-you-choose-gif-16847933

[tender island]

Thanks! 2 spires to be demolished

[visual sluice]

@tender island told you already about familiars building setup.

send you screenshot also.

2 spires 3 gyms and rest springs will be perfect

later when you merged all pacts demolish 1 spire and make them springs .

you need anima for research

[quartz terrace]

Jade wyrm familiar

How many to make it adult?

And what can lvl 50 adult jade wyrm unlock?

[coarse dock]

Same as the other R5 fams... from hatchling to adult, 25 Runes

[hazy maple]

Meow 🐈‍⬛

[warm nova]

Has anyone done the math to know once you have all lvl 60 fams if it is best to keep gyms to train skills, or to make more springs for merge speed to get more pacts and fragments to increase skills? Soon all my familiars will be level 60, but many still need work on their skills.

[bitter bear]

[silk elk]

Never done the maths but training doesn't move skills up very fast....

[thick cosmos]

Yup it's very slow for leveling up skills

[silk elk]

Only time I've used if had maxed previous level in which case can train for 30 secs and it's cheaper than using fragments

[thick cosmos]

Getting that 1 skill exp with gym.. nice lol

[glossy zodiac]

even that would only be better if it's going from level 9 to 10

[warm nova]

This is why I am leaning towards doing all springs to increase merge speed to get fragments faster... however, it would not increase that by much either... so I really am not sure which is best. I would like to focus on my pact 5 familiar skills... so can only increase skills by training or with fragments because I do not want to spend any more $$$ on pacts.

[thick cosmos]

Fragments for sure. you can shatter runes to get more fragments. then there is random xp multiplier.

[peak cairn]

Recently began playing. How many of the gyms/spring/ Spires should be built?

[livid berry]

2 gyms

2-3 spires

3/4 springs

[thick cosmos]

1 gym 1 spire and rest springs works for me..

[livid berry]

That's sound fine too

[peak cairn]

Cool. Thanks

[glossy zodiac]

I'd go for more gyms

You're generally going to be limited by xp far more than runes/fragments

[bleak crescent]

Agree.

[glossy zodiac]

also note that more gyms = better isn't just because of the xp bonus

but you get less and less xp per hero the more you add, going above 9-10 heroes per familiar is going to be quite inefficient

[livid berry]

How many heroes would some f2p who just cleared skirmish 8 have?

[glossy zodiac]

pretty sure that number would be over what's going to be required for training multiple familiars at once

[untold thistle]

8 xD

[livid berry]

[untold thistle]

I had 8🙄

[brisk sierra]

you can have more

just saying

[untold thistle]

😮

[silk elk]

I think there's no right answer. Started with three gyms, one spire, maxed all, then demolished a gym and replaced with spring, maxed, then when had all runes, demolished a spring and replaced with a gym again.

[glossy zodiac]

there's no specific be-all end-all answer no

but 1 gym is almost never the right choice

[silk elk]

Agreed

[coral shadow]

I have had between 0 and 6 gyms. It depends on where you are. I have 0 now.

[jolly tulip]

why do we need that many gyms?

[short grove]

Yes bc more gyms help you to increase familiar experience boost

Each level 25 gyms give you 20% boost

[cursive heron]

[jagged jewel]

Late reply, but best way to upgrade skills is runes.
Im 333% training speed and with 47 heroes where 45 is gold i get 32873 xp on 2 days and 4 hours in the gym.
Lets take the Rarity 5 fam as example. First skill upgrade for the day is 1 rune, or 24 fragments. - provided with 25537 xp
secound upgrade is 2 rune or 48 fragments - 40860 xp.
So don't shatter your runes before the familliar have all skills maxed.
As mentioned The first skill upgrade is 1 rune or 24 fragments - if you shatter a grade 5 rune.. its worth 6 fragments.

[coral basalt]

[quick leaf]

yo what's the best pact 2 familliars?

army boosts

and training speed maybe

[thick marsh]

Aquirus

[brisk sierra]

training speed on pact 2 exists?

[untold thistle]

Aquiris is pact 1....

Pact 2 is total waste. I just have that familiar which gives shelter capacity increase👀

[strong surge]

Best pact 2 fam is tempesite and totempest

[long mural]

Pact 2A best for army boost is Evil weevil ..gives Army HP 15% at battle start.

[umbral barn]

My terraspike is at lv 45 now

Other than exp potions, how can I make training faster?

Plus, how long do I have to research before I can deploy it in battle m

What are army talents?

Can deploy it in battle At lv 50?

[golden egret]

They give boosts

For example one army talent is +10% attack infrantry every time 10% of infantry troops fall

The first slot is not much

For research

[spark python]

Harpy and Bonehead from 2B for shelter cap, free vip points (not very important but still nice) and free colo entries. 2A totempest is useful for GF ship trade quests and those trades are generally good. Evil Weevil is good for rss hypers to get free rss (can give over 16m at once of your hyper resource). Tempestite is useful so you don't have to train t1 troops for gathering. Generally by far not as good as higher tier familiars, but these are still quite useful

[silk elk]

All true, pact 2 generally pretty quick to train also

[spark python]

Yeah, especially compared to the tier 5 ones...

Currently working on Hell Drider and it takes so long...

[silk elk]

Same. I've maxed hoarder, but feel like I've been training helldrider for years. Well worth it though.

[spark python]

Yeah, maxed hoarder as well, and I'm very close with Saberfang, but it all takes extremely long. Luckily the rewards are worth it

[sage thunder]

If you can merge pact 1 fast enough, you can shatter excess runes for fragments and use them to upgrade your monster. This is a little faster than gym training.

[quartz terrace]

I think it varies depending on what your fam gear looks like

[bleak crescent]

How many ancient/chaos cores needed to make one skillstone of Tidal Titan?

Actually, I want to make an annoying monster stealer who is always out of shield, relocate.

[urban yew]

6 chaos core

[bleak crescent]

Ok, thanks.

[quartz terrace]

Whats the point

They can relocate back for a grand sum of 1,500 gems

Just steal their guilds back

Or pressure them to kick him

[coarse dock]

Tru

Plus youre gonna be spending 30 times more gems from just making him relocate somewhere

[bleak crescent]

We did.

[bleak crescent]

They don't hunt, only steal.

Also, live in clusters.. not in a single hive.

[coarse dock]

Did what

[bleak crescent]

We did use Tidal Titan on him..

And sent him a scary message.

[livid berry]

[bleak crescent]

He just ported back.

And I stole his one LV.2 monster efficiently.

[coarse dock]

Hit him with tidal titan again

[bleak crescent]

[quartz terrace]

Yes they do hunt

You just dont see

You can steal their bot monsters too if you cant find them, those are easier to find

[jolly tulip]

is this not the better pyris?

[quartz terrace]

wdym. of course its better

[jolly tulip]

so it means i can get t4 without even unlocking t4?

[livid berry]

No

[brisk sierra]

no

[last gull]

From the highest tier available

[jolly tulip]

oh

ok

[brisk sierra]

highest tier

[livid berry]

And if you think you can get this

[jolly tulip]

oh i see

sorry for my blindness

[livid berry]

Work on t4

[jolly tulip]

i am 🙂

[livid berry]

Level 5 fams are out of league

[jolly tulip]

2 months and i unlock them

btw why cant i see the "bunny"

which help escape the leader?

is that p2p?

[livid berry]

Bunny is p2p

[jolly tulip]

oh i see

[livid berry]

Tycoon or shop

[brisk sierra]

you can get bunny from packs, chest of pacts, and tycoon

[jolly tulip]

i see

[prisma drift]

Yeah but bunny is pretty much P2w

bunny pacts do sometimes show up in gem shopes

[coral shadow]

I never bought bunny runes and I have it elder plus 63 runes.
I never bought frostwing runes but I have it elder plus 4 runes.
I never bought Huey runes but I have it elder plus 53 runes.
I never bought Bon runes but I have 149/200 runes.
I never bouight garg runes but I have 84/200 runes.
I never bought Blackwing runes but I have 45/200 runes.

So I would say its pretty okay to get the 3 cheap familiars at least. The familiar pacts chests with bon, frost and huey gives insane amount of runes for cheap.

[brisk sierra]

what if you dont need it

cheap or not its useless if you cant get the orbs

[coral shadow]

I Did buy every single familiar pact I could in bargin shop andalways choose garg as GF reward if possible

Huey gives 10% army HP and the ability to hit with leader and not lose it.
Bee gives 10% range atk plus 10% cav hp and the ability to reduce enemy army atk(not as usefull as bunny)
Frostwing gives 5% army atk and the ability to annoy the crap out of people in wonder fights(not as usefull as Huey)

[brisk sierra]

the amount of exp you need getting them to 60

and the amount of fragments you need getting those skills to level 10

[coral shadow]

It is pretty durable

[brisk sierra]

it just takes time

[coral shadow]

Yes for sure, but unlike T5 it is something you can get by just playing the game.
Granted I have quite the advantage because I have gotten insanely lucky with my voodoo drops so I have good familiar gear, and I have most of the heros, and I was running 6 gyms for half a year.

[brisk sierra]

yea 6 gyms is good for training

have you gotten the skills to level 10 yet?

[coral shadow]

I just wouldnt say that people shouldnt get the runes because its p2w. I was told just that when they first came out. I was told I would never get them to elder.

[jolly tulip]

oh

[brisk sierra]

t5 fams are pretty doable if you buy chest of pacts and token pack

[jolly tulip]

nah cant buy

[coral shadow]

Most of the skills are maxed.
Huey needs 1 level on 3rd skill.
Bee needs 10 levels on 3rd skill
Frostwing needs 1 leve on 1st and 2nd and 10 on 3rd.

All the others are maxed.

[jolly tulip]

making level 25 academy is so hard D:

[coral shadow]

I just got all those 3 to elder from last bargin shop, so it will take some time. But I got 13k fragments

[jolly tulip]

oh nice

does the fragment needed to upgrade reset every day?

[coral shadow]

Try to get in a MH guild. The gems and speeds from hunting is pretty massive. It has helped me a ton.

[jolly tulip]

monster hunt guild hmm

my kd sucks

no such things exist in my kd lol

the current guild gives almost 200 gifts a day

[coral shadow]

Yup. I have been doing about 5 upgrades a day. Burning fragments hard but I got enough of them due to orbs hells. If you arent full springs like me you should probably only do 3 a day

[jolly tulip]

oh okay sir!

you p2p?

[coral shadow]

Yeah I have been in guilds where we normally got 2k to 3k a day. On event days we got up to 25k level 1s, 12k level 2s and 7k level 3s. Those were the good times

[jolly tulip]

damn

thats a lot

[coral shadow]

At the moment? No I havent bought anything besides Jade for 8 months. Before that then yes. But I have done it pretty cheap since I got most of my stuff from monster hunting

[jolly tulip]

what do i need to do to get into a monster hunting guild?

[coral shadow]

Monster hunting gear

[jolly tulip]

like specific amount of monster per days or something like that?

oh

thats hard to get :/

[coral shadow]

For a f2p yeah. But you can get decent gear for 10 dollars. Not like in the good old days where I paid 4 times that xD

[jolly tulip]

the conversion sucks

1 usd= 72 inr

[coral shadow]

There is some guilds out there that dosent require monster hunting gear. They just dosent kill as many monsters

[jolly tulip]

and its like 720 damn

[jolly tulip]

still approx how many monster/day/

?

[coral shadow]

72 is 6 DKK and 1 dollar is 9 DKK according to Google.

[jolly tulip]

1 dollar is also 6 i think

[coral shadow]

Depends on the guild. I suggest you take a look at the Guild-Recruitment or Guild-Finder channel. Maybe look on reddit aswell

[jolly tulip]

okay!

[coral shadow]

Yup in the real world. Google adds 3 DKK for unknown reasons.

[jolly tulip]

oh

while buying?

is it costly for you?

for me 720 is costly coz i am still 16

[coral shadow]

Well yes and no. I have the money since I work but LM is expensive which is one of the reasons I stopped. Its just never ending. However MH gear and Familiar gear is pretty good place to spend a bit of money because it makes a lot of difference.
Familiar gear gets you tier 3 faster which we give you endless gold, stars, gems and other fun stuff. Pact 4 will get you free T4s, more gems, and jewels.
Monster hunting gear will let you hit more monsters and thus getting more gems, speeds and gear. Will also make it easier to find a monster hunting guild which would give you even more gems, speeds and gear.

[novel sapphire]

and how would you buy familiar gear? there is a p2w chest with all the items from monsters, but the voodoo is not listed?

[lucid rampart]

Let’s celebrate

It has 30 voodoo chests

And it’s a good pack to buy anyway, so if you’re buying it it makes upgrading fam gear pretty easy

[strong surge]

there's no need to buy voodoo chest anymore, you can get it for free by completing the daily mission at castle 25

[lucid rampart]

[jolly tulip]

really?

[bleak crescent]

Just one daily..

[jolly tulip]

then fam gear would be so easy to make

[bleak crescent]

[jolly tulip]

idc

chest is chest!!!

idk where to ask this

so i am asking here

which is better to buy

mat madness or monster slayer pack?

[coarse dock]

MH pack

To get into better guilds that hunts alot and gets hundreds of boxes everyday

[jolly tulip]

aight!

[coarse dock]

o

Also

[jolly tulip]

?

[coarse dock]

To join more MH buses

[jolly tulip]

also can you show me what i can get in the daily quest at castle lvl 25?

this

[jolly tulip]

yeah i will migrate out to join in the bus

[coarse dock]

o

I dont play anymore

I already quit

[jolly tulip]

ohh

thats sad 😦

why did you left? D:

[coarse dock]

I should change back to my regular nickname

Got zeroed like 2-3 months ago

[jolly tulip]

oh thats sad

REBUILD!!!!

[coarse dock]

Most liberating day of my life

[jolly tulip]

p2p player?

[coarse dock]

Fuck no

[coarse dock]

Somewhat, yeah... small p2p

[jolly tulip]

oh

[thick marsh]

[thick marsh]

Rising Champ

[jolly tulip]

nah cant spend that much

[dense yoke]

Buy let's celebrate and you'll get so fucking thicc with dolls

No problem

[west citrus]

lol

[ember gulch]

[thick marsh]

[livid berry]

[strong surge]

[keen parcel]

[hazy dove]

[long mural]

[tepid inlet]

[glossy zodiac]

[inner spear]

[quartz relic]

[keen parcel]

[hazy dove]

👉 #👾┊familiars not #emotes-spam

[glossy zodiac]

[livid berry]

[umbral barn]

Immature

[tidal kernel]

What's up guys ?

I am new here

[keen parcel]

#💬┊general

[hollow ridge]

are familiars really that good at max or just overrated af

or good in general

[coarse dock]

They're great

Does it matter if theyre overrated when theyll help you grow your acc?

[hollow ridge]

true...

[novel sapphire]

the drop rate of some familiars is discusting, makes me want not to play this anymore, anyway cause of it i just log in to build/research. i opened 42 packs of 1B, to get Akwion, of course - zero tiles of him heheh

[keen parcel]

Lul

[hazy dove]

What's Akwion?

[crude jolt]

I going to guess it's Aquiris as it it the rare pokemon familiar of the 1B pact

And yes, there is a rare familiar in each pact that doesn't drop very often and to top that, those rare familiar are from the rarity above the other familiar from that pact (meaning you need more of runes that the other familiar of the same pact.)
So it is slow to get them, but it's not too bad. it's just a bit long but if you could max them instantaneously it would make the familiar buildings obsolete really fast. (Not mention how overpowered it would be)

[strong surge]

It took me 1+ year to get all fam from pact 1-3 to elder stage

[bleak crescent]

[coral basalt]

Just buy the merging speed packs when it’s out

Should not take a lot of time

[quartz terrace]

just improve your fam gear and heroes

[severe moss]

just buy an acc

only take your credit card and sleeping under the bridge

should be easy