🏹┊equipment

[upper viper]

Bumblehelm easier

[pearl heron]

Is it fine to use beast helm for the time being too? I'm using venoms for a hardened carapace and a nectar orb(I use it over the wyrm staff cuz I also focus on a coronet)

(I can't show my equipped gear, I'm still lvl 59 lmao)

[carmine spindle]

Focus mix gear 1st then blast

[upper viper]

I have blasts and mixed and use most of my mix in blasts

[pearl heron]

Thank you!

[carmine spindle]

That's the idea

[pearl heron]

I do this too,, but usually I make sure that my gear doesn't overlap, like.. I have talons for mixed boots for inf+ranged and a garg belt for cav blasts. Firewall plate for cav+inf and carapace for ranged, etc. My reasoning before for beast helm was it's cav+inf,, and coronet is pure ranged. Didn't see the stat comparisons of the two and that the bumblehelm has better stats

But anyway thanks for the tips, will save venoms for helm now, cheers

[carmine spindle]

your blast will have 2-3 items from mix normally

[pearl heron]

I see

[spiral ginkgo]

They are both needed, no need for a vs. Beast Helm for inf set and Bumblehelm for mix.

[paper bough]

Personally I think you should stop investing in nectar orb because wyrm rod and skullcrusher both beat it out. I know you said you're working on coronet too which is why you aren't working on wyrm rod, but nectar orb requires same amount of venoms as hardened carapace (and carapace is best range armor piece if not including beastly breastplate from hootclaw...lunar crests should go towards boomerang anyway)

Since bumblehelm is the go to piece for cav and mix sets, it's definitely better to conserve the venoms as best you can and only go for that and carapace

[pseudo nexus]

How's my mix set

[vernal fox]

[native rock]

Way better than DFUFSRY gear for sure

[plain blaze]

Is blue storm tasset better than blue dragon talons

[vernal fox]

yes

[plain blaze]

So I should use which?

[pseudo nexus]

Talons

[pseudo nexus]

Something like this, instead of a second cup make a burning scroll

[plain blaze]

OkY yeah here mine right now

All jewel purp

[pseudo nexus]

That's good just don't use defense Jewels and try to get rid of the drum when you can

[plain blaze]

Yeah I’m working on scroll

And better jewels

[stoic pewter]

Why is scroll good? @plain blaze

[paper bough]

It boosts army attack and hp, so it’s not too bad for an accessory

[stoic pewter]

Well isn’t other accessories better?

[paper bough]

Blight ring and the cups are better yes

But generally people only work on one or two cups at a time, not all 3

[acoustic copper]

you can use new accessory from Necrosis , but it is very hard to get

[pearl heron]

That along with arctic flipper accesory are the two things we pretend doesn't exist

[rich spindle]

Unless you are a whale and have literally unlimited energy

[sly sleet]

does this look like low stats? like 350s max

[pine meteor]

Yeah, even less

[sly sleet]

awesome

so nobody would guess that it's 430-450 mix stats?

[patent silo]

No…because you’d have to have great artifacts and jewels…consider that this is my gear and jewels and these are my stats…

And I have very similar artifacts stars/levels to you, but most of kine are in the attack stat ones…

[sly sleet]

the difference between us is that I have almost full gold jewels lol

there you go lmao, think I have maybe 1 or 2 more golds now actually but I'm not logged in rn

my base attack stats are actually the same as yours, minus 1-3% either way

[steep moon]

Haha nice 😅

[plain blaze]

Drum is staying until I get better item what would rate gear out of 10

[rocky knoll]

3

[haughty oyster]

This even your real gear?

[upper viper]

Poor guy

[plain blaze]

Why you ask lol

No it’s fake

I use champ

[haughty oyster]

Because the jewels are weird and it's named "trash gear"

[plain blaze]

Yup it’s my fake set

[haughty oyster]

Of you don't have high kills, people will take the bait 👍🏻

[upper viper]

What do you consider high kills

[haughty oyster]

Idk when he has above 200m I would start thinking. But also depends on the rest of his profile

[upper viper]

Well depends could be all t1

But yeah checking stats is a good way to see

[haughty oyster]

Okay it's your real gear, but you in newer kingdom, so not so Bad I guess

[upper viper]

@haughty oyster sorry for ping but I have a question that you might have experience in.

Do I make 2m each t4 or focus on T2?

[haughty oyster]

Picture coming?

[upper viper]

Huh? You want a pic of the comp

[haughty oyster]

How am I supposed to say if you should focus on t2 or t4 if I don't have any clue how much T2/4 you have at the moment

[upper viper]

My bad my bad

[haughty oyster]

I would focus t4

[upper viper]

Really

[haughty oyster]

Yes your T2 count is good for single rallys

Even for doubles if you have good stats or weak enemys

[upper viper]

What about if my gear is not bad but mid

[haughty oyster]

I would still do t4

[pine meteor]

I always try to make 1:4 ratio between t2 and t4

[haughty oyster]

Yes add some t4, you can also join rally's with these extra t4^^

[pine meteor]

For each 1m t4 = 4m t2

[upper viper]

Okay

[rocky knoll]

I personally don't like the ratio t4/t2 comps after about 8-10m each t2 still doing full mix instead of one main front feels wasteful

this feels better to me when going into higher troop counts than mix t2

[worldly surge]

[rapid cypress]

That's pretty nice. How long have you been playing?

Oh, it's you, been a long while.

[patent silo]

That’s what I’m aiming for, the bait gear on my solo trap but the jewels aren’t even close just started investing in jewel packs

[rocky knoll]

Only issue with that is lack of hp but if you're fine taking a lot of dmg despite capping it's a nice bait

[still jackal]

[prisma needle]

That's already a party trap lmao

Be like me. 1m each T4 and 2m each T2

Psych, I kid I kid

[rocky knoll]

my lead account after rebuild I sometimes have 1:1 t4 t2 ratio lol

4m each t4 4m each t2

[haughty oyster]

Real legends have 4m total t4/5 mix and just pretend their castle is a wonder 😂

[patent silo]

True I was thinking of going for Gold mitts and gold scroll and keeping everything else at purple

I’m trying to look very small for a t4 max counters solo trap I’ve got almost no useless might

So I thought mostly noodles would come after me and won’t do alot of damage

[sly sleet]

yeah lmao, just a random alt i had started up about 200 days ago and decided to dump all my gems from my other accs into recently to see what I could do

[sly sleet]

thats pretty much what I am, t4 1 swap and counters. have my mix gear on my 1 swap and my fake gear ill put on my research slot since i have no research i want to do and have likd 600 labes

[noble path]

You can't edit research quick swap equipment...The game automatically puts the equipment with the highest research speed

[fallen heron]

I mean theoretically if u had research jewels u could slap one of them into the gear and have no other research gear to make the reaserch quick swap to be a fake set

[sly sleet]

That's what I do lmao. Don't need research anymore so some attack jewels and grey research jewels does the trick.

[icy mason]

should i be focusing on vial to gold or terror shield

[pine meteor]

Shield first, it is the hardest

[upbeat grail]

Help

I aiming for a solo trap and I've got these done

Should I keep working on these as f2p

[vernal fox]

yes keep working on them

[patent silo]

Yes, you can add a cup to that too if you manage to get your hands on some halos

[patent silo]

As F2P I recommend you build a mythic tomahawk till your Frostwing Greatsword is purple and a Mythic Lunar schimitar until your mitts are gold.

[pearl heron]

finally lvl 60 yay

time to work on jewels again

[pine meteor]

More exchange & barging and u will get to purple level faster

[peak prism]

Good enough?

I need to work on jewels tho

[pseudo nexus]

Swap the drum with a burning scroll and use the mits instead of the codex

[young wyvern]

Which equipment should i temper? I will also get others to mythic so count them in too

[rapid cypress]

Firewall plate and Mitts.

[young wyvern]

Okay thenkss

[upbeat grail]

I actually have them both at gold

I don't really know about mythic

Can make it tho?should I?

[fallen heron]

Yes you should

[lunar bay]

I say fire wall plate and boots honestly. You get army hp and 2 atk from both with just army hp from mitts. And those boots are not to pricey lunite wise. Be warned!!!!!’ The bumblehelm blows up fast from someone who is tempered to level 6 it’s like 12 - 18 -36 -54 -78 or some shit

[upbeat grail]

Finally got my first cup

Now to get it blue before l60

[patent silo]

temper mitts its cheaper and gives more army hp

[young wyvern]

Okay thenksss

[trail beacon]

Opinión?

[spiral ginkgo]

That's what a F2P should never do, wasting Blazing ember and other materials! They probably don't even have enough troops anyways. Being efficient and thinking long term is better

[spiral ginkgo]

Invest more on the glove

[patent silo]

It’s not a waste it’s the best option, as he mentioned he’s building a solo trap. As f2p he can finish building a decent T3/T2 trap within a year. Getting Gold Mitts or a purple Frostwing sword within that time is very difficult, Frostwing is the easiest out of the two, assuming he gets lucky with a Gold heart drop. But let’s be realistic he’s not getting 4 gold bells. So it’s not a waste to invest in the Mythic Lunar Schimitar and the mythic tomohawk is a viable option until he has a purple frost sword or better.

Also as F2P we know he’s not building any better mythic level 60 pieces anytime soon might as well spend those few blue embers for better stats, which will benefit them for a while

[slim scroll]

😍

[spiral ginkgo]

Yeah if they are in rush and not planning on long-term progress, (maybe an alt account) then that strategy is better. If it's your main account and you want to build the main sets at some point, then nope.

[patent silo]

what glove?

[upper viper]

Dragon fist?

[native rock]

Mitts ?

[patent silo]

i thought that but he replied to a cav set

[native rock]

[spiral ginkgo]

Which equipment in this picture looks like a glove?

[native rock]

None

[spiral ginkgo]

[noble path]

Just say the name

[spiral ginkgo]

Nah, someone that reached level 60 probably knows the name already.

[minor hedge]

f2p cav set go brrr

[patent silo]

its a cav blast\

why put mitts in a cav blast

[prisma needle]

Ah... The X3 polar rings dude

[patent silo]

im level 60... your option for cav offhand is champ, dragon fist or boomerang

[hollow gorge]

@patent silo what about falcon gale lvl 40 max upgraded

[pearl heron]

Change scroll to ring when you get it purple,,

[minor cape]

Don't know why they removed it! Looks like it's got hack

Tell me what I do, change gear or not?

[prisma needle]

I was looking at those

[minor cape]

Just show that in Guild chat something which was illegal

[prisma needle]

What is your question

[minor cape]

Which gear do I change ?

[paper bough]

Mythic scimitar beats blue codex and purple ring will beat purple burning scroll

[hardy ridge]

[minor cape]

It's near by

[patent silo]

its a blue ring

he needs another toxin

[spiral ginkgo]

I never said mitts :/

[spiral ginkgo]

Alright here comes the big announcement, the glove I was talking about is named: Dragon's Fist

[icy mason]

that isnt even a glove

[spiral ginkgo]

[paper bough]

My bad. Was 4am for me and falling asleep

[paper bough]

Purple burning scrolls beats blue ring, but when blue ring is purple it’ll be better than scroll

[noble path]

🤦‍♂️

[prisma needle]

Fisticuffs

[rocky knoll]

do I mythic vial or use all my tokens and halos to make 2nd blue cup

none of the lvl60 pieces will ever be mythic btw I don't plan to spend on the account nor have the patience to work on the stuff f2p

[minor hedge]

vial in mix is cringe to infinite levels

[digital parrot]

Make 1 cup to gold-mythic then work on the next

[rocky knoll]

i see you can't read thanks for useful advice

[digital parrot]

Sorry I am illiterate 🥴

[rocky knoll]

purple scroll is ass tho while 2nd cup means no purple first one anytime soon

[fallen heron]

Second blue cup is better than 1 purple im f2p and going for 2 cups in my mix

[rocky knoll]

ye but mythic vial is pretty much same stats as blue cup and saves 4 purple halos that can go towards purple cup

[pine meteor]

Purple cup is achievable as f2p, I have it so do not do second blue

I think one purple cup is better than two blue while u can use other gear

[carmine spindle]

Purple cup is easier if igg knew what a good exchange extravaganza and bargain store was

[trail beacon]

Purple champ acc is f2p

[icy fable]

You cant make second blue cup

And dont mythic vial. Just save your embers

[zenith basin]

Save your embers.
<Me with enough halos to make my cup mythic but no embers 😭😭😭

[patent silo]

same but with my champ chestplate

[rocky knoll]

About second cup I can make it I did use tokens before reset , but will mythic vial instead since only argument against it is not using the embers that I won't need for anything else anyways

[patent silo]

why are you making a vial in the first place?

why not a scroll or something

[spiral ginkgo]

Vial are the main equipment for Ore production, doesn't hurt to max it anyways

[rocky knoll]

Cuz scroll at purple is worse

And I have 20 gray brains towards making it gold

And I'm willing to bet I'll take some very dumb hits and abandon the account before I get the brains for it

[patent silo]

guess your making a mythic vial then

[rocky knoll]

And inf is the lowest stat , and on old comp range rallies had a very bad habit of walking back

That's not in talents btw

[icy fable]

I could understand inf rallies walking back, but if rang rallies walk back - you doing something wrong

[rocky knoll]

Wut ? Why would that be ? I had a range rein trap comp , inf rallies where the easiest to cap

Cav rallies where fairly easy too since real good cav gear requires way too much champ for it to be common

[minor cape]

Yeah most of the time infa walkback,

[rocky knoll]

that's cuz people have good inf gear most of the time lol

[trim dome]

igg 567094137

[pearl fossil]

thank you for submitting your igg id to the account deletion service, would you want us to delete this igg id indeffinatly?

[willow ibex]

Hi

[trail beacon]

XD?

[fallow cape]

What gear should I have before I take off my shield? In %. I know that troops are also very important but I just want to know the optimal gear %
I have like around 480% on every gear

[sly sleet]

How many more troops do I need to be safe against 3-4 consecutive or timed rallies?
My might is 1bil, trying not to go over 1.5bil if possible.
Will go to 1.75m each t4 to satisfy my ocd lmao,
And will likely go 5m t2 cav and 7.5-10m t2 inf or something.
Ranged t2 will be my offline frontline in range wedge.

Stats without Prison+Altar+NoInfirmary+NoForts

^Also now at 10m T2 Ranged.

[rocky knoll]

Your current comp can survive a quad will likely dip into your t4 a bit if timed well from thicc leads but shouldn't burn you

Additional T4 won't hurt tho especially if you're filling rallies and losing it , I like having 3m each on my filler at least so that I can stay safe despite losing up to around 1m each T4.

If the kingdoms you're in set 4 rallies at same time fairly often I'd add 5m to your range or inf depending what you'd like better so you don't get your front completely wiped out after one round if caught in fury by them

[sly sleet]

I'm in same KD as SGR, SSq, AoW etc.

I think I got rallied by RMDA and illest yoyo 1 after the other, countered both with maybe 2m less troops and no beds got I think 3.7m total reds so getting countered would suck ass

[rocky knoll]

than make at least 20m t2 front those guys are painful lol

[sly sleet]

Alright lmao, if I was to do a big party trap comp with rng front, what should I do? I want to keep cav down around 6m since I won't be going in cav phal ever

[rocky knoll]

I'm running this on mine

normally t4 is a bit higher but I was filling and haven't rebuilt the troops for a bit

[sly sleet]

I'll probably go to 2-2.5m on mine then, don't think I'll go any higher than 3m each though since we aren't running multiple rallies daily yet, I'll keep this in mine. Will likely do my t4 how I want and the inf and cav a bit higher then just do my t2 ranged until I hit the next rounded 100m mark or the one above it if I'm already within 20m

[spiral ginkgo]

I suggest more T2 instead of T4

[remote sandal]

Can anyone share ss of astralite requirements of Frostwing sword pls ?

[silk fog]

Huhu

[steep moon]

7k astras to max

[minor cape]

[steep moon]

Easy

[minor cape]

Yeah it's too easy, just wait 10 yrs and get 1k amount

[steep moon]

0.5 k 🥸

[remote sandal]

And,that of Burning scroll & Mitts pls.
These are the only 3 pieces I can make mythic

[native rock]

if .5 round up

green line is total btw

[remote sandal]

Thanks

[steep moon]

11.2k
Sounds doable

[normal geyser]

I newly made these gears I am low in halos to make another cup

[spiral ginkgo]

Gray is not good, at-least make that one blue before making another one

[normal geyser]

Okay it would take me so much time because I don't have enough materials rn

[spiral ginkgo]

Put some other gear in 3rd slot after unlocking it to make up for missing cups, for example the blight ring, since the ring is the only one coming from Maggot, it wouldn't slow you down on making other gear

[icy mason]

81mm and no wardrobe 3rd accessory. please get that sorted lol

[fallen heron]

I'm f2p and have played for 227 days yet still have much better gear than him lol

[fallen heron]

Well this is interesting

I didn't know u could get champ from the forge supplies

Does this mean you can also get slayer mats

[icy mason]

yup

great for f2p--- i just got a gold venom this morning so its possible lol

[fallen heron]

Woah

I got a grey venom lol

[icy mason]

[fallen heron]

I need 1 more blue for my blue bumblehelm

So hopefully that happens soon

[icy mason]

whats your gear looking like?

[fallen heron]

I want a full blue set of lvl 60 before i hit lvl 60

[icy mason]

my bumblehelm just got to blue because of that... aswell as 1/3rd

[brisk inlet]

Scroll & Mitts can get upgraded to Mythic, just missing the embers. Ring is one rare away from gold. C ups one epic away. Legs & weapon are one gold away from upgrade. I feel like helmet's upgrade is not happening this life time.

Jewels are non excisting since only 63 days in. Would this be a good point to start working on different pieces?

[icy mason]

oh you arent level 60 in a year of playing? damn

[fallen heron]

The stuff I use rn or my lvl 60 set

[icy mason]

i mean are you planning on keeping up with p2p

[fallen heron]

227 days so far

[icy mason]

start working on jewels btw... if you keep on going heavy p2p yea start working on blast sets

[brisk inlet]

Gonna lower my spending to 200 a month, so semi spend (?) idk

[icy mason]

thats still heavy, yea go work on blasts

[fallen heron]

Far out mate how much did u spend in 63 days lol

[brisk inlet]

1.4-1.5 ish I guess

First month was abit excessive

[icy mason]

start working on those jewels

[fallen heron]

Lol I can tell

[icy mason]

my full blue mix set is stronger than your full gold set because i have jewels

[fallen heron]

I mean so far your gear is good so yeah just work on jewels and blasts

[brisk inlet]

I havent build anything from certain sets like these

Go for bumble?

I feel like getting bumble to epic is nice, but it will take forever to get to gold

[icy mason]

bumble is good for mix set

and for cav blast

nothing else to get so yea

[fallen heron]

Bumblehelm is good for mix, cav and range blast

[icy mason]

nope not range wyrm coronet is better

[brisk inlet]

Debating between starting with the 'hardest' item of each set when its done the rest will feel like a walk in the park

[icy mason]

and easier to get

[brisk inlet]

Or go the other way around

[icy mason]

what do you mean you mean

[fallen heron]

Start with the best item in each set so you don't waste materials

[icy mason]

what?

that logic doesnt make any sense lol

[brisk inlet]

Hardened Carapace or Bumblehelm

[icy mason]

bumblehelm

[fallen heron]

Bumblehelm

[icy mason]

well actually

whats your range set looking like

because you have saberfang for cav

[brisk inlet]

I dont have a range set

[icy mason]

is that amount of venoms enough to gold a carapace?

[fallen heron]

Like go bumblehelm over nectar orb or carapace

[brisk inlet]

I've only crafted mix and the wyrmbone

How about Garg & Terror then?

[icy mason]

id work on drums and vials first

for inf u can always use firewall plate temporarily

[brisk inlet]

so 2 Vials?

[icy mason]

how many cups are you planning on making

id say 2 so no just focus 1 vial and drum

[brisk inlet]

I wont make a 2nd untill my first is gold

[icy mason]

focus 1 vial

drum too try get it to gold/mythic (very cheap to mythic)

[brisk inlet]

I can make 3 Mythics

Was planning to go for belt tbh

[limpid eagle]

1st time entering this channel

[icy mason]

pretty sure drums are only viable non champ cav accessory...

yea

polar rings cost too much

[rocky knoll]

depends 1 gawrilla is doable if you're getting full mythic

and a gold gawrilla is already plenty good to use

[icy mason]

you mean rowdy resolve?

[limpid eagle]

[rocky knoll]

yes

[icy mason]

id say make 2 mythic drums for now and see for last

[brisk inlet]

I was told to stop buying material madness and focus on stars/tokens for upgrades

[icy mason]

your blasts arent there yet so

[brisk inlet]

So there's a rotation that might take a while for example with Labyrinth

[limpid eagle]

Material madness at start is good because it gives materials of all types... Labyrinth and tycoon when you need specific materials of some monster

[icy mason]

ask dfu hes genious at this stuff

yea make sure to do tycoon for halos your cup is only blue risp

[limpid eagle]

Chests in material madness have chance to drop monster jewels... Can't get them from tycoon or labyrinth

[rocky knoll]

I like the 10$ thing with new monsters

material mayhem or whatever the name is

[brisk inlet]

My blasts arent my priority tho, just a project I'll start slowly

[limpid eagle]

Priority is mix set?

May i ask what type of account are you building?

[brisk inlet]

Idk never played a game like this

[icy mason]

hes high spender... 200 dollars a month budget

[brisk inlet]

Is 200 really alot?

[icy mason]

decently high

[rocky knoll]

it's not

[icy mason]

not really

[limpid eagle]

It's not

[icy mason]

its middle

[brisk inlet]

I feel like a goldfish who doesnt know how to swim

[icy mason]

analogical genious

[limpid eagle]

It's a lot among us low spenders

[rocky knoll]

that's enough to upkeep a filler while working on some gear at the same time

🤷🏼‍♂️

[brisk inlet]

Its just to have fun, so I want to help with DNs/rally some people and fill up some

[limpid eagle]

If you want to be able to rally other people and do darknests easily then you need 3 separate sets

[brisk inlet]

This is more like an experiment account

[limpid eagle]

If you just want a filler's life, filling other's rallies etc then mix set will be cheaper and better option

[limpid eagle]

Imagine spending 200$ a month on experiment account

[brisk inlet]

I've never played this game/genre before lol

[limpid eagle]

[rocky knoll]

you can technically go for sth like this , focus mix set with both jewels and mats and only start redirecting materials for pieces that you got mythic or aren't using in mix and spare jewels above the initial 8 gold atks each and monster jewels towards blast sets. Ending up with a monstrosity like this

[limpid eagle]

[rocky knoll]

the mythic drums weren't exactly the smartest pick fyi I did them when I thought I'd be migrating this account at tiny might to kingdoms and solo people lol

[brisk inlet]

What to do with my next brains? Go for skullcrusher or the off hand thingy

[shrewd sail]

dark aegis

[rocky knoll]

I did crusher for range mainhand

[limpid eagle]

Skullcrusher

[rocky knoll]

mits have pretty much same stat value for a inf set as aegis with both mythic so it's a bit of a yikes piece

[limpid eagle]

Skullcrusher great in mix set too at same grade as Frostwing sword

[rocky knoll]

well if you did scroll for mix unless some big spending will happen the crusher will likely stay under mythic

[brisk inlet]

So it will be mythic prolly

[limpid eagle]

How you have mythic Frostwing sword with purple skullcrusher
I have Gold sword (1/4 to mythic) and gold crusher (1/9 to mythic)

[rocky knoll]

that acc has a mythic scroll too

[brisk inlet]

Cause my scroll is mythic if I get embers

[rocky knoll]

and is 3/9 on crusher

[brisk inlet]

Read if as when

[limpid eagle]

That message was for kari

[rocky knoll]

I could have gold crusher rn

[limpid eagle]

[rocky knoll]

but than I only have 2 nice accesories

and I stopped spending on gear for that acc like a year and a half ago lol

now it's just f2p mats for upgrades , even the cup and helmet went gold while I was doing the f2p stuff lol (ended with both around 2-3 golds short when I stopped spending)

[limpid eagle]

Risp, you have counter researches done?

@brisk inlet

[brisk inlet]

Yes

[limpid eagle]

Nice

Slow roll jade wyrm familiar and chronicler hero too

[brisk inlet]

Kinda doing already

[limpid eagle]

[brisk inlet]

I wanted develop to much at the same time, so I quit and foccusing on one thing at a time

[rocky knoll]

if you plan on big spending I can do same msg as smol acc on my mindset with making stuff but with my main lol

[limpid eagle]

This is an interesting scenario

[brisk inlet]

Wont go past 200 a month again. Hopefully

[rocky knoll]

ye than that's a bad idea

200 would be more like daily when doing upgrades lol at least it was for me around april when I did upgrades

[brisk inlet]

So from 200 a month to 200 a day

That went quick

[rocky knoll]

I mean now I'm spending closer to 200 a month

but that's just upkeep lol

[limpid eagle]

I think best use of 200$ a month would be 5$ massive discount pack daily... While slow rolling chronicler and jade wyrm...
Along with 30 day supply, labor pass and weekly dash bundle for artifacts

[brisk inlet]

So you advice to go for T5?

[limpid eagle]

That's assuming you wanna do researches too like t5, wonder battles etc

[rocky knoll]

for a couple months for a filler ye after you get sigils t5 counters done tomes aren't rly needed as a filler acc]

[brisk inlet]

Cant be bothered to do wonder battles, I got 2 young kids. I can't really expect to be able to play around those certain times

[limpid eagle]

Just saying

I built most of my gears through monster chests from massive discount pack... If you'll be going for t5 etc, i would personally advise to buy them first... Leftover gear upgrades you can do later with specific packs

[rocky knoll]

t5 is something you want eventually on your account it's not a huge deal to rush it tbh having to spend on lunite to upkeep healing it will reduce how much you can spend on other things but it is something a good account needs to have

[brisk inlet]

So lets say I go that route, and use Bogo on tokens?

[rocky knoll]

it's good

[limpid eagle]

Sure

[brisk inlet]

Only 80 days away till T5 is done then

[rocky knoll]

and with doing all the tomes research you get medals for watcher and cd ;p

[limpid eagle]

If not done using technolabes

[rocky knoll]

o those things

I always forget they exist , never rly used them lol

[brisk inlet]

I'm kinda pushing upgrade military section, I saw cost reduction and my accountant brain went like

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOO

[limpid eagle]

Yes it's good

[rocky knoll]

all my accounts have it , it's great

[brisk inlet]

Might even get to 500k T4 troops soon

[rocky knoll]

I'd say if you gonna techno anything those are pretty good tbh

t5 researches are pretty short compared to them

[limpid eagle]

Use technolabes in bottom ones huge researches in army leadership, Upgrade military and military command trees

[brisk inlet]

I've neglected my army complete, my researches are this atm

[rocky knoll]

don't do mili command useless might

[limpid eagle]

[rocky knoll]

it's such terrible value for the might

[limpid eagle]

If he wants to stay low might

[rocky knoll]

if he spends 200 a month he's gonna be big eventually

[spiral ginkgo]

It has Energy limit and max deposit dude

[rocky knoll]

ye and that's all the tree gives it's proper ass

[spiral ginkgo]

Anything under those 2 is not needed

[limpid eagle]

Doing good

Hope you aren't accepting turf quest might

[brisk inlet]

Kinda want to stop now to get T4 familairs unlocked since Trickstar is leveling to 60

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-monkey-puppet-meme-awkward-gif-15268759

[limpid eagle]

Sounds good

[rocky knoll]

pact 4 is better than those upgrade mili researches if you have all the runes for your pact3 done already

[brisk inlet]

I kinda want to push for P4 for the jewel familair and go back to pact3 for the grypon

[limpid eagle]

In pact 4, aim to get hoarder first... And don't go for Grimm reaper, it costs lots of gems to use

[limpid eagle]

[brisk inlet]

My thought process behind my account was build around account developent

[rocky knoll]

maggot is nice to lvl up too

the barracks size skill

[limpid eagle]

Opppp

[rocky knoll]

don't rush maxing it but do it to lvl20 when you get some exp to spare from hoarder trickstar gremin and goblin

[brisk inlet]

Yeah, did the same with the cargo ship familair and dark essence completion familair

To get the ability unlocked and continue with the once I value higher

[rocky knoll]

this shiet is op pretty much like +20% training speed

cuz you can make one extra manor instead of a barrack when boosting due to it

[brisk inlet]

Yeah currently I still have 2 barracks, thankgod my 2nd is only at 17 or so. Working on getting 7 Manors to 25. Then I'll do the rest of the Infermaries

[limpid eagle]

Go 1 barrack 1 infirmary, full manors while building troops

[brisk inlet]

Okay, infirms are only lvl 10 anyway except the max one

[rocky knoll]

I'm usually doing 2 barracks rest manors no infirms when I boost and just let the troops from dns go to sanc when I boost lol

3d speeds for t4 are nice hence 2 barracks

[brisk inlet]

Love the tips

Aaah yeah, wanted to ask what I'm supposed to do with my 3 day speeds, since closest I've been was 2d and 20h

[rocky knoll]

2 barracks + barrack expansion research and maggot lets you do 3d speeds even with dumb high training speed

[limpid eagle]

Kari faster typing speed than me

[brisk inlet]

So research route should be; Fam4 unlocked, complete upgrade military, army leadership until deposit(?) or are the 20k gems a month not worth the time investment

And then T5

[spiral ginkgo]

Anything that increases deposit is good.

[limpid eagle]

Army leadership is good... The debuff researches at bottom

[brisk inlet]

When should I do the familair battles

[rocky knoll]

a bit different lemme do a full breakdown with what you want , it will include some jumping

[limpid eagle]

He's heavy spender btw(according to us f2ps and low spenders)

[brisk inlet]

If I want gems I'll visit the labyrinth tbh

[rocky knoll]

I'll do everything with pictures if you give me 5min xD

[spiral ginkgo]

If you are p2p then don't even touch military command lol

[brisk inlet]

For help I'd wait days, I wasted so much anyway

[limpid eagle]

Heavy p2p... Spending this much on his experiment account

[spiral ginkgo]

Experiment account? dude

[limpid eagle]

[brisk inlet]

I felt insulted so I bought another pack

https://tenor.com/view/rage-mad-angry-kid-tantrums-gif-17338734

[spiral ginkgo]

Army leadership should be maxed for you

[limpid eagle]

Almost 4am for me... Imma go sleep while Kari writes essays

[brisk inlet]

I only knew after week the attack weakness/strength

[spiral ginkgo]

First Army leadership, then Fam then T5 IMO

[limpid eagle]

Let Kari help him... Kari writing full detailed guide for him

[spiral ginkgo]

The leadership costs are very lower, naturally it should be done before Fam unlocks

On top of that there is might increase, you will be lower in might until you do the Fam tree, helps with migraiton if that's a problem

[rocky knoll]

pact 4 followed by lvl10 everything but the central command II in t5 till lunar foundry , do the lunar foundry (those are cheap quality of life researches and getting lunar foundry will allow you to start making your free t5 luminous gear, follow that with army leadership till max deposit after that back to upgrade military with your technolabes while you can jump to t5 tree to do lunite storage , harvesting and gear crafting speed since their main cost is tomes , they barely need speeds and will start increasing your efficiency of crafting your free t5s

[spiral ginkgo]

Can you skip the ones marked with X ?

I'm not sure if it's possible

[rocky knoll]

yes you can

[limpid eagle]

No... They want him to stop at max deposit 1... To keep him low might

[limpid eagle]

By skip he means if you can do debuff researches by skipping the X ones

[spiral ginkgo]

But there are 3 formations and an extra march bellow :|

[limpid eagle]

That guy isn't sure yet if he's building a rally leader, rally trap or what... So they are keeping him low might for now

[rocky knoll]

he's not rly fighting at this point tho we didn't even get to fam battles yet

[limpid eagle]

That'll keep him busy for 3 months

[spiral ginkgo]

Well the Max Deposit I should be avoided also then, not worth for p2p

[rocky knoll]

his gear isn't even jeweled lol

[brisk inlet]

Wow not fighting, I went into fury 15 minutes last month

[limpid eagle]

[rocky knoll]

ok lemme do phase 2 of plan sec

[brisk inlet]

Why would that keep me busy for 3 months, its not much at all?

[limpid eagle]

Need 80 days massive discount packs for t5

Other researches will also take time... Unless you go around using technolabes on them

[rocky knoll]

after that you continue work on t5 and if you will have spare speeds after using tomes on t5 you want those exact researches in fam battles excluding the lvl2 of gym training speed

[brisk inlet]

Where are they for otherwise

[rocky knoll]

focus technos on your upgrade military tree and maybe do the lvl10 of training speed in leadership with it

[limpid eagle]

Researches done with speedups give hell event points... That helps you get watcher and chaos dragon hero maxed...

With technolabes you don't get hell event points

[rocky knoll]

t5 is cheap on speeds so no point using technos there better to get your hells with those

[brisk inlet]

I always have a 1.3+ m upgrade going for a potential hell event with nice rewards

[limpid eagle]

You can use it on some of bottom researches which are very high Might and/or cost tons of speedups etc

[brisk inlet]

Thanks for the guidance both of you

[rocky knoll]

if you stick to this you should be busy with research for a bit and while it's going your t4 count should rise nicely for free and gear go up with the monstrous chests

[spiral ginkgo]

[limpid eagle]

And artifacts

Alright 4am now... I'm out

[rocky knoll]

with the t5 tree feel free to rush lunar foundry first and than do the lvl10s behind it

[brisk inlet]

With artifact I made 5-6 blues 5 star to get an income for purple

[rocky knoll]

the sooner you get the building the sooner you start making free t5 ;d

[brisk inlet]

I love the word free

[rocky knoll]

without tree done and without gear you get like 1,2k t5 for free a day with just lvl25 building

[brisk inlet]

Sounds good, thanks 🙂

[patent silo]

it gives you stats though?

[rocky knoll]

Not rly worth the might with artifacts being a thing

You get ~80m might for 10 each army stat and 10 talent points that in mix give you like 5% stats while in blast are useless

[pine meteor]

What about army leadership, the last three

I am trying to max them, I have then level9,9 and 8

[normal geyser]

I am c22 I don't have third accessories slot unlock yet I need to be c25 first

[normal geyser]

I am c22 lol

[rancid olive]

Which champ and it's f2p variant have a wider difference

Champion off hand compared to codex/mitts
Champ legs compared to talon/tassets

I want to only focus on 1 champ piece as a f2p, so i am asking this

[limpid eagle]

I'd go with champ legs or champ chest

[echo goblet]

Champ inf legs or champ range chest

[rancid olive]

Thanks for the suggestions

[spiral ginkgo]

As a P2P you can max Army Leadership fully, especially if you can handle the might

[icy mason]

as a f2p you can too

only abt a real life year of all ur speeds and labes into it

[acoustic copper]

currently going for slot 4 instead of t5

i m close

[limpid eagle]

[paper bough]

Champ offhand has the smallest difference in stats btw compared to mitts/codex

I think it was mythic accessory that had biggest difference but need to double check to be sure. Ignoring that, might’ve been helm

[paper bough]

Ok second biggest difference is the chest piece, them helm 3rd

[patent silo]

a champ acc to a cup is only like 14% more hp

[limpid eagle]

For blasts... Yes... For mix Champ acc has army atk and army hp but we can make 2 other champ pieces in cost of 1 accessory

[patent silo]

too much thinking required

[rocky knoll]

It might give most stats but I'm pretty sure it doesn't have the best mane to stat ratio lol

[patent silo]

you can make a helm and boots for less than what it takes to make an acc lol

[sly sleet]

Yeah see I fucked up and did debuff 10s right before artifacts lol. Coulda saved a lot of might smh.

[haughty oyster]

Debuffs are strong tho

They reduce 10% of total enemy stats

[patent silo]

because of how percentages work debuffs reduce by more than just 10%

[limpid eagle]

P2p fams like queen bee take only Rng atk % in consideration or army atk too? Wyrm rod or skullcrusher

[patent silo]

idk if im just weird

but this is what the description for queen bee says right

i always assumed it was 150% the amount of damage your troops have done before the skill activates

[sly sleet]

total troops

If it was the troops it represents nobody would use them in forts or small traps

[limpid eagle]

I always thought initial range atk is like:
No. of Rng troops*(base Rng atk + rng atk% + army atk %)...
Looking for a more confirmed answer if someone has done experiments with these

[sly sleet]

No initial rng attac is just your range attack stats as of that moment

Not army attack, or troop size, or base blah blah blah, it's literally the green number (if you send lead), and I assume the non-green number to the left if you don't send lead

[limpid eagle]

So... No. of Rng troops*(base Rng atk + rng atk%)?

[sly sleet]

Doesn't include the number of troops at all

[limpid eagle]

That's so incorrect

[sly sleet]

It's just the green stats

[limpid eagle]

So, you are telling me it'll deal same damage if i send 1 troop or 1m troops?

Do you have those t5 fams?

[sly sleet]

Yes I do

That literally makes no sense, why would it include the number of troops lmao

[limpid eagle]

Good luck... Go keep hitting people with 1 troop if you think it works on stats basis and has nothing to do with troops

[sly sleet]

Any familiar you send will do more damage if you send more troops

[patent silo]

wait then what's stopping be from just sending 10 t1 troops and just spamming someone to death with p5 fams

[sly sleet]

[limpid eagle]

Just go away... Not taking your advice after this discussion for sure

[sly sleet]

My brain cells are literally going out the door

[patent silo]

wym base rng atk + rng atk?

[sly sleet]

This mf literally asks a question then acts so bigheaded and for what if you know all the answers yourself then don't ask

[patent silo]

isn't it just the green number?

[sly sleet]

Ya it's just the green number

The green number is already your base stats included

[limpid eagle]

Base Rng atk is the atk power of 1 troop... + rng atk% is the stats bonus we get from stats

For example, if t1 archer has 1 atk power... And you have +800% range atk...
It'll deal 1+8 = 9 damage

[sly sleet]

green is your base stats + whatever stats you get from gear+talents and any research that requires your leader

[patent silo]

green is just the culmination of everything

so what is rng atk if his adding base rng atk onto it

[limpid eagle]

Actual numbers of troops atk power etc are unknown but the calculations work like that

[sly sleet]

Only thing green doesn't include is your hero stats and familiar + atk research

The familiar attack stats in research aren't included in green

[limpid eagle]

Go zero bren Chong with 1 troop atk

[sly sleet]

you literally change your gear to what your frontline is, don't start

[limpid eagle]

Have you played rpg games or something?

Like if character had 100 atk stats...
Then they increase it by 400%
It becomes 100+400 = 500 atk

All the stats in stats page are +___% values... It boost the base atk of troops

No idea what the base stats is... Igg has given us stars instead of actual numbers... But I'm pretty sure the calculations work like that

[icy mason]

hows the mix set looking? all blue jewels, im 1 gray jewel away from making the last blue inf jewel for my set, rest are coming

(this is for a 150m might account who got level 60 like a month ago)

mitts have purple inf jewel

[limpid eagle]

Looking good

[icy mason]

better than my gray mix set a month ago

[limpid eagle]

Progress

[brittle shard]

It looks nice but if you are f2p and can make mythic fiery tomahawk it can replace blue frostwing sword

[icy mason]

alright thanks!! will look into it

[limpid eagle]

Don't waste embers

[brittle shard]

Isn't that 1 purple or something I don't remember exactly

[limpid eagle]

Just stick with it... Will reach purple by the time you get ready for war

[limpid eagle]

I don't think he's going to war anytime soon

[icy mason]

probably gold... only furying when i can take a rally

[limpid eagle]

[icy mason]

very far away... will dismiss t3 when i have full march of t4

[limpid eagle]

Nice

[sly sleet]

You gonna make a big comp or smth?

[icy mason]

yea

6m each t2 2m each t4 within next year... ive got 450% training speed and 300 days of speeds saved up so far

in about a month

[sly sleet]

Not bad really, I opted for a t4/t3 comp at 2m troops on my alt for these weak kingdoms lmao. Aslong as you don't go to giant KDs you'll be set with those troops

[spiral ginkgo]

Why not make a new account and look at troop stats?

Not sure what it will show in the page

[limpid eagle]

0% you mean?

[spiral ginkgo]

So not telling :/

[limpid eagle]

You mean in this page... Right?

[spiral ginkgo]

Yes

[limpid eagle]

I can explain with example of army Capacity, how these % work

Coz we have base stats of army Capacity... For example, 8 capacity of t1 siege

[limpid eagle]

The stats in that page are +%... It's not atk of troops... It's the % by which troop's base stats is increased

[minor cape]

I'm in dead kd where Even I'm go on Fury they know still didn't Even touch me

3 way kvk

[spiral ginkgo]

Yeah I know, what is the base attack tho, maybe it's the might troop gives. T3 dealing 24 damage?

[limpid eagle]

New account not showing any details

[limpid eagle]

Igg hasn't disclosed the base atk... And there's no way for us to know/assume it... They only gave us the stars

We can't ever find out base stats because of complexity of hp, def etc etc things... They gave us ⭐ everywhere

[spiral ginkgo]

I'm assuming the might troop gives is combined base HP and Atk, like 12 HP and 12Atk for T3, could be wrong lol

[limpid eagle]

In igg's game clash of lords 2, it showed all the numbers of base atk, atk %, dmg %, def, dmg reduction %, crit chance, crit damage multiplier, atk speed, atk speed % and a lot more... We could calculate final results with such things

[spiral ginkgo]

Maybe there isn't a base attack and only percentages fight :/

[limpid eagle]

I see no reason to assume anything... Btw i found an informative video on YouTube which answered my questions about t5 fams

[limpid eagle]

% don't work without a base thing... I can explain with army Capacity because it's base stats is in numbers

I added 1 talent point into army atk... So, if only % fight... You are telling me that my army should be dealing 0 damage without leader?

[spiral ginkgo]

Maybe a programmer can explain this, depends on how the game is written. If Troops don't have HP individually only percentage of success is measured.

[spiral ginkgo]

Sometimes I dealt zero damage to walls with no guards, even with many troops sent

[limpid eagle]

Added 1 in cav atk too... Base atk exists... But igg hasn't disclosed it

[limpid eagle]

The reasoning is the difference in your atk value compared to walls's defense value

[limpid eagle]

Lol... Just because igg hasn't disclosed the numbers it doesn't mean the things don't exist

[spiral ginkgo]

It could not exist, we don't know exactly how it's programmed.

But it's likely there is base stats however very low, like 1, 2, 10

Since there are unlimited amount of troops trained and Wall HP of Darknests may explain the limits

[limpid eagle]

Anyways, that wasn't the topic... We don't need to find the base stats... Other guy said my calculations are wrong etc etc and the troop count don't matter in t5 fam's damage calculations

[spiral ginkgo]

I need to find the troop stats, interesting topic.

[limpid eagle]

Can't find base stats... At best you'll be able to find the ratios... Which you can just assume to be the stars shown in troop's stats...

[spiral ginkgo]

lol, I will not assume based on some stars, kinda hoping IGG releasing some hints

[limpid eagle]

They won't... In 6 years they didn't

[spiral ginkgo]

Why 6

[limpid eagle]

By stars it'll go like... T1 = 1 star, t4 = 4 star, t5 = 5 star....
+800% atk... Then
T1= 1+8 = 9 star
T4 = 4+32 = 36 star
T5 = 5+40 = 45 star...

And that's just atk... Don't tag me saying "so t5 is 20% stronger than t4" it's assuming that they are in ratio of stars... And it doesn't involve the difference in def, hp and the differences caused by other multipliers like counters, army stats etc etc

[limpid eagle]

Game was released 6 years ago

[spiral ginkgo]

Got it lol, I thought it's older tho

[limpid eagle]

[icy mason]

yea its meant to be able to cap a rally from a biggie incase they turn around and rally me when im in fury ^^

[sly sleet]

When I'm in fury I just pop a 50% and hide garrisons everywhere, then recall when rally is gone and keep going lol

[icy mason]

whats your comp though?

also i dont feel like popping 50s the whole time costs too many gems

[sly sleet]

450k each t4, 200k each t3, not had anyone go over like 350k wounded yet annd I still have blue heros and no fams lol

[prisma needle]

Troop size is considered also.
As well as army attavk

[prisma needle]

Army attack also counts towards p5 fams damage. So technically skullcrusher is better than wyrm rod for range blast.

[limpid eagle]

Yup... Found a good video on it and ended up testing myself as well

[prisma needle]

Yeah someone tested it out a while ago on here and sent reports.

[limpid eagle]

I was thinking of putting mix jewels in skullcrusher and making wyrm rod for pure range if it worked other way

[prisma needle]

If you don't have P5 fams then wyrm rod is better

You get range attack + hp

[limpid eagle]

Not yet but i plan on getting then slowly

[rocky knoll]

I'm still gonna use rod cuz I need my crusher for 992 and like walking back

And it's cheap to astra

[limpid eagle]

I can make mythic rod but that'll push me more away from mythic helm

[rocky knoll]

Actually lemme hunt wyrms and make it +1 lol

[limpid eagle]

[limpid eagle]

I think i should do the same will save gems to rejewel and its cheap to asterlite

[rocky knoll]

jade takes no dmg help

no matter what tank I use it dies

[limpid eagle]

Try child of light tank

[rocky knoll]

he dies

with lore

nevermind I found a team that kinda works , it doesn't get wiped out

[limpid eagle]

Lv5?

[rocky knoll]

ye lvl5 astra thing

[limpid eagle]

Nice... Good luck

[rocky knoll]

this just worked nicely

not sure how

[limpid eagle]

Don't have p2p heroes, can't tell

[rocky knoll]

yo 19 astra in one monster

[limpid eagle]

I got 19 from lv5 garg yesterday it's good but expensive as well considering it's 1 normal Asterlite

[rocky knoll]

boom 3 lvl5s for this lol

[limpid eagle]

Gamble with 2 asterlites at 5% chance

[rocky knoll]

nah I might actually keep going for rod I'd rather save them

it's the cheapest stats for the mh astra I can get

[limpid eagle]

[spiral ginkgo]

0.5% for all that energy :/

[rocky knoll]

very worth

if I could do same for cav I'd spend all my energy and buy more

[spiral ginkgo]

I need stats for these jewels, for Epic and Legendary only:
Assault jewel and the three Cav Rng, inf Rng and Inf Cav assault jewels.

[limpid eagle]

[limpid eagle]

Assault is 10%

[prisma needle]

And lords wiki page doesn't have the jewels

[limpid eagle]

Double ones are like... 10% inf, 5% cav...
10% of 1 type, 5% of other

[limpid eagle]

I believe it has

[prisma needle]

I checked this useless page

[limpid eagle]

Oh not that one

[spiral ginkgo]

Thanks lol, the heph was not working

[iron osprey]

Hi,
Can someone please me, what gears should i make for f2p solo trap and f2p rally trap? Please help
Thank you

[stoic pewter]

Lol not super f2p

[limpid eagle]

They should make their grey versions and upgrade as far as possible

[stoic pewter]

Yeah that's what I'm doing since it f2p but my gear ain't getting above blue lol

[pine pike]

It will get above blue just takes time

[tall bramble]

Blue at least 🙂

[zenith basin]

Yes, they should make up multiple images of the same gear at blue grade. It will still be the same gear though

[stoic pewter]

Lol blue at most for me

[tall bramble]

[limpid eagle]

[pine meteor]

Wow good

[prisma needle]

F2p account.. haven't spent a dime there in almost 2 years lol

[stoic pewter]

Dang that’s good, I’m still using the f2p gear

[rocky knoll]

My f2p tiny alt has more purp gear but only one cup and that one cup is blue

Entire left side there is purple

[prisma needle]

Yeah I've abandoned the account for a while now lol.. just shield and train troops whenever

Skipped all those nice events

[rocky knoll]

Lol mine was abandoned to the point that I got the welcome back gifts so over a month of not touching it xD

[minor hedge]

mitts are better

[chilly brook]

Skullcrusher takes a lot for f2p. Frostwing sword be much easier

F2p single cup.

[patent silo]

😍

[minor hedge]

thats some f2p gear right there

[fallen heron]

And I love that f2p mithic cup although I'm wondering why you don't have 2 as they are very easy to get for f2p players

[limpid eagle]

It's F2P gear "pieces" suggestion... They can upgrade it to blue/purple or whatever they can... It doesn't mean they have to make it mythic

[shy eagle]

Should i make 1 purple burning scrool or 2 blues?

[limpid eagle]

1 scroll, 1 blight ring, 1 cup... If mixed set

[shy eagle]

Oky thanks!

[broken bridge]

Bro tell me best hunting gears which are not purchased in packs

[mental comet]

Someone tell me...

I should make my skullcrusher blue or scroll purple?

[bronze pagoda]

You can get hunting chests as f2p from gf for example

[mental comet]

Any suggestions? :|

[limpid eagle]

How's your Frostwing sword?

Skullcrusher is a good investment if you'll be using it... If you'll be using sword then you can go for scroll

[mental comet]

Blue

[limpid eagle]

Then skullcrusher better at same grade

You use scroll in mix set?

Have any replacement for scroll?

[mental comet]

Yeah sometimes XD

I either use ring or cup

[limpid eagle]

You can go for this if you don't wanna go skullcrusher route...
Or you can get skullcrusher and you'll have to get 2nd cup or blight ring instead of scroll

[mental comet]

I have 2 cups

[vernal fox]

thn go crusher

[limpid eagle]

Go for skullcrusher then... Remove scroll

[mental comet]

Both green

[limpid eagle]

Np

[mental comet]

Okay

[limpid eagle]

They'll upgrade with time

Time or money

[mental comet]

I'm f2p

Just completed an year playing the game

Okay... I'll go for crusher then

[limpid eagle]

[mental comet]

My set gonna be blue soon

I defended this attack but he got walkback -_-"

[chilly brook]

Decent comp, talents and wedge can eat rallies. Gear isn’t as needed

[limpid eagle]

And that's a t4 t2 leaderless mix attack

[rocky knoll]

[rocky knoll]

true I capped stuff on my alt with this gear with no issues due to comp , p5 fams murdered my backline tho

[chilly brook]

I use non jeweled mh and familiar gear a lot if under a triple on my alt

[mortal flume]

Ahhh the drum killing me

And the vial aaaah

Worst choices

[limpid eagle]

Depends on what mats they had

[mortal flume]

If you think about it cup as blue is still good cause it's give you 2 types of atk and hp while drum or vial gives only inf or cav

[limpid eagle]

[rocky knoll]

Why you hate my drum

[left cedar]

Need some opinions

Which is better for range

[patent silo]

personally i use the rod but that's only because my skullcrusher is jeweled for 442. if they had the same jeweling they would be about the same

[left cedar]

Gotcha thanks, that’s what I was thinking too

[mortal flume]

I mentioned it earlier

[steep moon]

Lol why? Has a reason they are there, i guess no mats for cup
Better this way than using low stat stuff.

Without the drum, cav would be at almost no damage.
Not that great for Mix when attack is almost 0.

[limpid eagle]

[burnt zenith]

Purple rod or blue skullcrusher?

[limpid eagle]

You can use Rod for range, skullcrusher for mix... At higher grade, rod will give better stats than blue skullcrusher

[limpid eagle]

[carmine spindle]

[distant tendon]

?warn @atomic forge monster busses are strictly prohibited here

[rain venture]

Daksh#1818 has been warned. || monster busses are strictly prohibited here

[atomic forge]

Dyno are you****

😕

[patent silo]

don't think you got all of it

[atomic forge]

So who's mythic champ here?

[limpid eagle]

@carmine spindle

[atomic forge]

N 11k?

[limpid eagle]

Same

He has everything

[atomic forge]

oo

[limpid eagle]

Except emperor pieces and baron jewels

[atomic forge]

Aha

[patent silo]

mythic champ is so hard to get though

[limpid eagle]

[patent silo]

[carmine spindle]

[cobalt shard]

[mortal flume]

Bumble helm will give you cav stats and codex too

As well as frostwing greatsword

[chilly brook]

Mitts > codex when getting hit

[steep moon]

Is there a bumble Helm? Or codex? Nope. The off hand and sword are the only things giving her cav damage, so is drum not that bad.

[chilly brook]

And champ light but low

[rocky knoll]

I like how my fake gear is getting dissected

I put a lot of thought into it and defo didn't put all the lowest grade pieces that made some sense together with my blue champ

[limpid eagle]

[limpid eagle]

Your fake gear better than main gear of lots of f2ps

[sly sleet]

imagine getting a gold mane from that new daily material thing and making purple champ boots for free 🤣

I don't think I'll make any war gear on my f2p acc until I have atleast all blue or all purple jewels depending on how lucky i get with them.

[rocky knoll]

I bought champ on that account to get blue chest and than ended up getting a gold mane like 2 months after from free chests

and was saving for purple chest till I made 50m troops and just did the boots and offhand for speed gear and free training speed

[sly sleet]

not bad choices really

i just made it all to purple for the lolz and then never used it pff

[rocky knoll]

I made them mythic on my main and use them

[sly sleet]

share

[rocky knoll]

[sly sleet]

oh yeah what comp was you talking about before

[sly sleet]

curious

could do with a decent comp on some of my alts they have t4 and t5 but shitty gear, at most 430 mix on some :(

[rocky knoll]

4/3/4,5 t4 9/20/7,5 t2

[sly sleet]

icic, think i planned for 2/2/2 10/15/5 just to fill rallies

[rocky knoll]

That's low T4 if you plan to fill

[sly sleet]

Yeah but theres 6 accounts and I'm a broke bitch as it is

[rocky knoll]

With 430 mix the 2m T4 is needed to do DMG so you actually cap

If you drop like 500k each filling rallies will start to hurt pretty bad

[sly sleet]

so gp to 3m+ each atleast? and stick with maybe some manors for training them back when low

[rocky knoll]

when I'm not trying to take hits or are in a kingdom that can't set more than 2 rallies at same time I like having 3 beds on my filler

[limpid eagle]

Go full manors 4-5 infirmaries... So you can keep training... Due to new sanctuary, you won't take much reds anyway

[sly sleet]

true

think on my main i now have only 225k beds ish so i can hit ppl lol

[limpid eagle]

That's good enough

[trail beacon]

Oπ🧅 ??(not perfect but ok)

[upbeat grail]

This is more like a cav set instead of war

[rich spindle]

No, this has too many cav pieces

[rich spindle]

Better, do you have blight ring? If yes kick the vile and put that in

[patent silo]

its all cav

[pearl heron]

Blue skullcrusher or purple frostwing sword?

[limpid eagle]

For mix? Purple sword gives better stats

[pearl heron]

Gotcha

looks like I'll just get a gold scroll first before working on skullcrusher

[limpid eagle]

If you plan on upgrading skullcrusher then don't waste brains on scroll

[pearl heron]

Ahhh,, hmm.. but I have no 3rd accessory if that's the case. I plan to just go for 1 cup for now

[limpid eagle]

[pearl heron]

Any non cup alternatives for mixed accessories?

[limpid eagle]

Use anything

What other accessories are you making?

[rocky knoll]

just make 3 drums

[pearl heron]

Cup, Ring, 3 Drums, 2 Vials

[limpid eagle]

Use cup, ring and vial

[rocky knoll]

best mix

[pearl heron]

Got it, thanks

[limpid eagle]

Can you stop trolling my drum

[rocky knoll]

no

[limpid eagle]

Poor drums being trolled

[pearl heron]

And they say mixed set lacks cav stats

[limpid eagle]

It's kinda meme... I have drum in my 424 set... So they post ss like that

[minor hedge]

drums best for mix set

sit cav front too since u have 3 drums

[pearl heron]

I thought we're serious here

[minor hedge]

looks good to me

jewels lacking

[limpid eagle]

Like that?

[minor hedge]

yes, i bait in cav front, they expect me to switch, but jokes on them i dont change front or gear. i cap everytime

[limpid eagle]

[minor hedge]

100% success rate

[pearl heron]

[limpid eagle]

[pearl heron]

the funny thing about that is someone inexperienced enough also won't switch and hit you hard

[limpid eagle]

[minor hedge]

100% success never failed

[limpid eagle]

[minor hedge]

trust

[rocky knoll]

gear is overrated

[limpid eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/movies-animation-gingy-shrek-youre-a-monster-gif-14849862

[patent silo]

aww you got better gearless stats than me

[meager gull]

how's this tomfoolery

the almost 50% difference between cav and inf hurts. the inf range is bare-able, but anyone got any clues as to how I can even this out?

[limpid eagle]

If it's for defense, you won't really be taking rallies in cav formation... So it's fine to have cav low

By putting cav jewel in offhand and legs instead of wyrm jewels, you can increase cav a bit but then range will become a bit lower

[meager gull]

alright, i can get the wyrm jewel off of the legs. one on the offhand is purple so better to keep range breathing a bit

[lament wasp]

How are my gears

[limpid eagle]

Pro tip: Don't use drum in mix set... Or people will make fun of you

[lament wasp]

Ok thanks

[turbid hill]

Which one is better soul crusher or frostwing sword

Both are purple

[limpid eagle]

Skullcrusher

[turbid hill]

Thanks

[patent silo]

a lot of experience in that area

[carmine spindle]

Soul crusher sounds dope

[limpid eagle]

I enjoy my drum but other's buttt hurts on seeing it... Kinda spoils the mood on seeing negative comments

[patent silo]

maybe you should take it as feedback and improve on it

[limpid eagle]

424 stats with drum

With cup

Without war talents or fury etc btw

[limpid eagle]

9 Astralite drum = 28% cav atk...
Purple cup = 16% inf 16% rng...
I'm barely losing 4% atk... But it puts my stats better for 424...

Gimme proper rationale behind "feedback"

[shy eagle]

It's not lvl 60 gear so it sucks

Just joking btw, idk whats the problem with drums...

[limpid eagle]

🐑 follows 3 cups... So, other 🐑 should also follow 3 cup even if it doesn't make sense in their gears

If I try to fit in 3rd cup then I'll have to change champ legs to garg legs... Then people start commenting on garg legs

[patent silo]

that's good enough reasoning for me

[patent silo]

well at that point it depends on your jewels

but idk im too lazy to argue it if it works for you then its fine

[limpid eagle]

Good

[atomic forge]

When will 120% come😩

[cobalt shard]

SOON

[placid steeple]

Soon like Bargain?

[pine lichen]

Bargain is much more rare. 120% comes more often

[limpid eagle]

[carmine spindle]

Thought it was 10th September

[placid steeple]

New pfp Gunhall? Its very nice

[carmine spindle]

yea, thank you

[placid steeple]

But I need 120% event too in 1-2 months. Lacking on T4 inf/kav

[rocky knoll]

I did math on my account and I lost 2m t4 inf in 23 days

and that's on one account not counting kvk

[placid steeple]

1m Inf and 750k kav T4 left

[chilly brook]

Need another rebuild soon

[carmine spindle]

[placid steeple]

I like that you have half as many T4 rng as kav/inf
1/10rallys are probably range

[chilly brook]

It’s how I build my comp

8.5/4/8.5 when I rebuilt

[placid steeple]

Whats your might after rebuild and do you rebuild like every 3months?

[chilly brook]

After rebuild was 2.3b and they don’t even last a month

[placid steeple]

Ok,

[chilly brook]

2-3 weeks I’ll have nothing left of t4 from rebuild

[patent silo]

he rebuilt like last week

[placid steeple]

Sound lik3 a lot of kills/fun

[chilly brook]

I got a couple kills

[patent silo]

just a few

[chilly brook]

It all depends on kingdoms tho. An how many just shield instead of using the gear an troops they make

[prisma needle]

I'd use drum or Garg belt for 424 personally since I don't have the cav champ pieces

[limpid eagle]

[prisma needle]

#🐲┊trial-by-fire

[patent silo]

So I know this isn’t exactly an equipment question, but this is the closest channel to the query in question.

Can someone give me an explanation as to why range phal is the generic “best” formation to use in wonder/da battles?

Like, for example I know to use it but don’t completely understand as to why I ruin inf phal

[spiral ginkgo]

Change that blight ring to a Rowdy Resolve or a drum and change Sword to skull crusher.

[rich junco]

Whatever you do don’t do this, you already are using a scroll so don’t make scull crusher, and don’t put a drum or rowdy resolve in mix as they only give one attack/ hp stat. Scrolls gives army attack, blight ring army hp, cup is two type attack

[meager gull]

my skull crusher is green anyways lol. I went for the sword cause it was way easier to do

and I have a purple drum just in case the ocd gets to strong lol

[spiral ginkgo]

Skull Crusher is higher in range stats compared to Sword, so you don't need Blight ring anymore, free acc slot? well put some cav stats in there

It's not rocket sience

Or you can just blindly follow the norms

[rich junco]

If you really need extra cav attack start building up your Dragon Fist, it isn’t as good as mitts but it gives you cav attack and army hp. Aswell as storm tassets ( which are better than talons). A purple frostwing sword is much better then a green skull crusher and if you already have a scroll don’t make it as they use the same mats. A cup, ring, scroll is much better than a drum as they give 2 type attack or a large amount of army attack/ hp

[icy mason]

this chess guy has to be trolling

[rich junco]

Yes I think so too, all of their answers to questions have been interesting to say the least

[burnt zenith]

Is this worth making?

[topaz pilot]

Mythic mitts or gold codex for mix?

[limpid eagle]

Mitts

[topaz pilot]

Alright thanks

[limpid eagle]

Don't have any other legs? I wouldn't waste embers on that

[burnt zenith]

nah I di have others

just asking

[limpid eagle]

Not worth it

[burnt zenith]

alright

[prisma needle]

Range phal is used mostly for 424-like comps. Your range is your smallest unit so they don't deal much damage. They basically act as buffers.
That's the basic summary.
Also why most people don't use range fams in 424

[patent silo]

tassets are hard

i don't use either anymore because i have champ legs but i have enough ultra rares to build mythic talons 2 times over and i already have them mythic now. my tassets on the other hand are still gold and 8/11 for mythic. that's just what i have other people's drops might not be as wild

[gaunt sparrow]

Tassets are easy if you do tycoon...

[patent silo]

halo tycoon only for life

[gaunt sparrow]

If you want garg and BW fams

Which are the best for defense, together with bon

[patent silo]

thats my wall

so yea together

[gaunt sparrow]

So that disqualifies this

[patent silo]

what

[gaunt sparrow]

Halo tycoon only for life

[patent silo]

why is that disqualified??

[gaunt sparrow]

How to get the garg and BW if it's only halo tycoon?

[patent silo]

there's that pack with really good value

that gives you 20 fam chests which can drop 10 of any of them

[gaunt sparrow]

Either way tycoon is one of the best ways of obtaining the fams

[patent silo]

don't think that's relevant to what i was saying

[minor cape]

Not 11k?