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ngl this feels very slow
but that's good speed for a maxed 1* Tier F car
(which might never exist)
Hello
Hi
@hidden adder patch notes for update on 13th? Coming Today
Friday
@hidden adder thank you very much on the answers on main concern of players that you post in #🎮│game-updates ..really appreciate that effort..at least question to mostly ask, is being post in channel where everbody easy to search of it..it easier for player to help other player just by refer them to that channel..hope this method will be continuously being use..thanks again..👍
No problem. I try to not bury details in the general chats and type up finalised info in #🎮│game-updates 🙂
Thank you for your message - for reviewing ladder double fusion (hopefully that means removing it, at least for Tier S and GT) and scheduling more events for idle cars. You say these changes will happen in T&L 3 - that’s the January season after Mini? Feel free to remove the 2nd fusion from the SCG current ladder as a test - I’ve still 4 days to complete it. 😄
The other issue with this is that Hutch makes the last few rungs of a ladder way too difficult sometimes. Basically you have to double fuse and max s5 to have a chance at the last few rungs. I don’t think that fair at all for a ladder I had to pay to get the car to enter.
Yeah Round 3 in planned to start on Tuesday 18th Jan, so it's really not that far away.
Some ideas were discussed in the meeting for how we can make the 2nd Fusion More rewarding/beneficial if a Ladder has it, but also how better to order the rewards if there's only 1 Fusion. And I really liked the sounds of the ideas discussed - but real planning and designing will happen in the new year, so I'll be able to share more info then.
Remove second fusion from the Ford GT ladder. I still got 3 days left. I won't tell anyone. 😆
Making the second fusion more rewarding? Please don't.
Yeah, no one in this server, i'm sure!
Most people joined early so their timer has finished. I joined on the final day.
Thank you. I don’t think it will be possible to increase rewards in the last few rungs to justify a second fusion in Tier S and GT with the current levels of fusion fodder required. The simplest (and I think best) solution is just to remove the need for the 2nd fusion. Give the fusion credits; as you do, and then racers can decide whether to fuse now or later. No need to try to force us or over complicate it.
Remove it in the SCG 4 one too and I also won’t say anything 😎
2nd fusion in S and GT is extremely expensive because of the fodder now required. It therefore should be a rare event (reserved for favourite cars), not forced on us.
You want to make the second fusion more rewarding when we can't even do it. How is that solution?
The only way would be to cut the fusion fodder requirements for S and GT by at least 50%, and probably more like 70%
Actually, the idea was to have the Round 2 event of the H2H the following week with bigger prizes, not just stuffing more in the Ladder. Then it would be a "Completionist" event for those that want to Fuse a second time after the Ladder ends (2nd Fusion Credits at the last rung of the ladder) and then there's an entry requirement of a star rating req. for this special Round 2 with bigger prizes.
As I said though - this was discussed as a "what if..." sort of idea around it and isn't decided on.
Crikey. That’s a lot of thinking. 🤯
read the notes above - you wouldn't have to do the 2nd fuse to finish the ladder
it was! I was interrupted and everyone got carried away thinking of things to make Ladder and 2 h2h's and fusion better. 😄 I had to interrupt to get through the rest of the Player Feedback list lol
So you are sayind to enter the second round we need to have both fusion done?
Well, it sounds like an improvement on the current situation. I think. 🤯🧐
Maybe. If that's what the event design team think will work, then it would work that way. But, this was just an informal chat about it as I raised the issue with the team.
Just please don’t put all the gold keys in that second round. The person in charge of gold key starvation of players is bound to suggest that, given their recent run of success.
You know what, I will take it as long as you don't reduce the rewards further in the ladder. If I still get 100GK from the ladder then I am fine with it.
Yes. Having the second fusion credits in the last rung is an improvement on the current set up. No 2nd fusion requirement to finish the ladder. Other rewards in the ladder should stay the same, just switch places.
*< moves all gold keys immediately > *
No not yet, but it's being looked at seriously in the new year
It's the first ladder I am not gonna compete. 😐
Any chance you will consider adding a few gold keys back to the repeating events?
I honestly think we can save the game by making evergreen playable and enjoyable.
Add a few gold keys, raise the entry fee if needed, add some club points, make them shootouts.
Game saved 👍🎉.
The tier a daily with 10Gk was one of the best thing to happen and then it disappeared.
Same thing here. Although not the first time. 🤷♂️🤦♂️
I'm gonna join that one late as well. I was gonna fuse this fully but I have a bit of hope to get the Porsche. I would rather double fuse the Porsche.
'Hope' is the key word in that sentence. 😜
Are you here @elder basin
Josie isn't online now and has finished for today.
He is confused with her status message
I told him its been there for ages and she just forgot to take it off 🙂
Ahhh gotcha. Yes, I'll let her know!
Where can you see the scoreboard for the RR event? Held by Katie 🤷♂️
(γκανγκλι γκανγκλι) θελω car coupe και την δικιά μου δίπλα μου
Just buy one from the car dealership.
Is this game fun I’m thinking of playing it is it also Grindy and p2w like asphalt 9
This game is definitely pay to win. It’s free and fun through winning the S tier car. Get that far then decide if you like it enough to keep going.
Anybody know why I’m seeing people w/the 2020 Porsche 992 turbo in their garage? There’s no way I missed that event
Thats impossible. Any example/screenshot?
@steep halo any reward for best individual score , this is beneficit for any member who are doing well but the club not .
Club prize okay
Individual racer prize should be
Like in any type of event
F1 constructor ( team)
Racer pilot individual
I need to wait for upgrading stage 3 in my a class car •_•
So if i do stage 2 upgrade on s class car,i need to wait xd
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Anyone have any idea what the max pp is of the m4 custom?
Ty
best way to spend my silver keys?
👋
Save em for now... I buy sometimes the Silver crates to get some Fodder but other than that no.
save for what?
will there be crates in the shop that cost silver keys that give a guaranteed custom car? not talking about the default 100 silver keys one
i’m new so i don’t know
We don't know there was only once a car crate for silver crates but none after that.
You can also go for the Silver Booster crates but they don't give any car and also they're 100 Silver keys now so don't buy them either...
You can go for Boosters if you're lacking golds and have enough Silver keys else you can go for the Silver crates to get some fodder or even a new car that you don't have 😉 @strange pasture
Wasn't this 15g ? Or i m mistaken 🤷♂️
Yes. I think S3 was 15 and S2 12 in the shop. 🤦♂️
Oh well i think it's still cheaper 🤔
Happy Christmas from Hutch 😂
I regularly purchase parts from shop i think I should get a loyalty discount card 😆😆
i see, thanks for replying, i’ll probably go for the crate with the new car then, i thought every once in awhile there’d be a special crate for silver keys, didn’t know it only happened once. thanks again
how to earn cash fast for a beginner that is trying to complete tier S
Daily Test Drives, Adverts, Double Payout and then highest difficulty in Easy Money over and over if you haven't got an event to enter 🙂
S3 are 25 from the upgrade screen, and 20 from the shop, that’s how it’s been for a long time now.
With constant encouragement and cheering from Hutch, even being penniless I can finally look forward to the next Rebel Pass 😂
I.e. it’s not release yet?
@hidden adder So what's Hutch's calculation on value of this Resource Rush? 480 gc entry seems entirely too high.
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I am curious to find out what calculations the team offer - i am pretty confident the cash 18k equates to 180 gold in the evaluation... when the entry fee is determined
18k cash is worth exactly 1 gold in the game, I’m not joking that’s the actual value lol.
I'd love to see their valuation comp sheets to determine entry fees to player rewards. They'll never share it though. I'm sure @slender shoal would have a field day going through it. 🤣
I am not sure but I think I asked the question once in CS ticket and they explained to me briefly how its calculated and I tried to used same which explains the entry fee to me personally but I do look forward to Katie's response to cross check. It will be a nice read.
in shop £2.49 = 30k cash , £2.49 = 300 gold so based on that 18k cash = 180 gold ( I would like to see if Hutch uses same calculations to determine the entry fee)
Things took a DRASTIC change for the worse when a certain someone came on board with Hutch. A certain someone who won't come on here anymore to engage us.
I would think that very few players do resource ladders or the new rush. Don’t they talk about percentage engagement in each event? Why choose to keep offering resource events that are guaranteed losers for players? My only guess is the players who enter are the same players who buy cash from the shop, they don’t understand the game at all and just throw money away. In other words, just like cash in the shop, resource events are there to take advantage of uniformed players.
That makes no sense to equate cash with gold via their shop prices because cash can be accumulated by racing whereas gold cannot. If all races offered gold or cash (choice or 50:50 chance) then yes, but that’s not the case so that calculation is wrong. If Hutch really thought the resource run was good value, they would advertise it and explain why. The fact that hasn’t happened tells us something.
Maybe newish players do who haven’t yet realised resource runs are a bad idea as currently priced. Happened to me.
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In the old days they had extras, augs, keys, gold, etc. But for quite awhile now I’ve never seen a resource event that wasn’t designed to be a guaranteed loss to the player no matter what.
Well I would wait for Katie's response to cross check if our speculations are correct or no. And see what the team actually take into account when entry fees are determined. But I do agree game cash rewards should not be taken into account when entry fees are determined. But again what we want and what we can have are 2 different things 🙂
It’s like buying cash with gold. Something no one would do.
Have Hutch thought about making the RR pass prize car and the car for the top 20 teams the cars that will be required for the next season rather than adding some pointless races after the season so that people can use their prize cars?
It also gives everyone a heads up of the next season
Would be unfair for the teams below #20.
Or a challenge to get in the top 20 as well as completing the RR pass
And that'll give us a free gold crate on completion... Seems good lol
its lousy that Hutch is filling the game with bad events like 'Resource Runs', they are a waste of hard-earned Gold! why is Hutch trying to fleece people? Don't they make enough money? Also, where did the reasonably priced H2H go for Tier S, A & B? Hutch wants to drain pockets and thinks people are stupid.
Hii
hello!
I'm new to this sever
After a few seasons there should be "Prize Car Showdowns" for all the Prize cars to compete against each other (split by Tier, obv) And then new things can be won for them.
This is just my idea on that topic - not what is going to happen 😄
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@hidden adder what is the best individual current score CP. I want to get a challenge right now .
Can you check on your system
Not club , but individual
I want to the Shumi or the Loeb of this game
@hidden adder it will be only as information, and Also you should reward the individual racer not only the club
Do we know the resource drop rates for when you are racing in an H2H?
Ian said he would set it to the same as tier S easy money a long time ago, but I’m guessing it’s been lowered since then. I don’t remember them ever disclosing what it is currently.
@rustic needle from what I understand from the inner circle, the top player in Snipers is currently at around 19 million cp.
You are bad😂 😂 😂
Oh well, I guess I can’t compete, I only have 17 million points.
I’ve done 14 races in the Nissan h2h so far and gotten zero resources. Also losing 1500 cash for each gas compared to S Easy Money. By the time it’s done I’ll have used about 25 gas, which means missing out on $37,500 cash and - if trend continues - five resources, whose average value I believe calculated to about 32 gold each.
If I’m lucky I’ll stay in the 20-39 bracket - I don’t see breaking into the top 19 without coining.
So for 300 gold + 160 gold in lost resources + $37500 I will get:
- 31 silver keys (worth less than 30 fodder points)
- 36 resource keys (worth about 46 gold at face resource value, but randomness devalues this)
- 80,441 club points (cool)
- 240 gold
- $40,215 cash
Basically I’ll end up having paid 197 gold for $2700 cash + 30 fodder + 80k CP. (edited & revised below)
Not a super good return on investment really
OH- I forgot that the silver keys would get me 31% of a gold prize and 31% of a few resources too. Depending on whether I buy the silver booster or silver crate, that could improve the prognosis.
Depending on booster or crate, silver keys return about 40-55 gold. 31% of that is 12-17 gold.
Silver crate gives no resources, but booster gives 85 gold in random resources (whose value is complicated to estimate but I’ll just cut it by 50% cuz I either need them or don’t) and 31% of 50% of 85 is 13 gold
That means I’ll end up having paid about 167 gold for $2700 cash + 30 fodder (if silver crate) + 80k CP.
I cut a lot of corners to calculate that, and omitted augments because they are even harder to value than resources (either you need them or you don’t) but I dunno, it still seems a little unbalanced.
Maybe @hidden adder can show this to @elder basin or whoever does the balancing of game economics as a sample calculation of why players might feel the game is so unbalanced right now
Yes. Coming in 20th in h2h is a huge loss, so much so that repeatedly coming in 20th in h2h’s will force a player to quit the game. Big loss of cash, resources, gold, and zero gold keys rewarded. We have told Hutch about this for months, they don’t care about us non coiners. Either pay more than $100 or they don’t care if you play or not.
There are players paying many hundreds a month to play this game, and some over one thousand dollars every month. Those of us spending under fifty a month just don’t matter.
This is how the game works:
Coiner clubs full of coiner players compete against a few other coiner clubs full of coiner players. The rest of us are just spectators.
Even if I was to coin 300 for another 10 tickets and was lucky enough to break into top 19, I’d be forgoing two more regular resource drops at ~32 gold each and another 15000 cash lost from not using gas on S Easy Money.
So essentially I’d lose ~ 360 gold + $15000 cash, and gain from the next prize bracket:
- 31 gold keys
- 5 additional silver keys
- 6 additional resource keys
- about 13000 additional Club Points
- 41 additional gold coins
- about 6700 additional cash
So if I buy another 10 tickets AND get lucky enough to break into the top 19,
I’m paying about 320 gold + $8300 cash for 31 gold keys and 13,000 Club Points.
Now THAT is a lousy deal! It’s cheaper to buy gold keys with real life cash!
And even if I pony up, I still might not crack that top 19 bracket, and I have no gold keys to show for it!
Hit the nail on the head there... that's apparently what hutch has been striving to get players to realize
Correct, coiners virtually always lose money, they can buy the rewards cheaper than buying tickets. They don’t care about rewards or value, they are paying to win in a p2w game. There’s nothing wrong with that, the real problem is Hutch decided to completely ruin the rewards for 20th place. As if giving me a few gold keys for 20th would suddenly cause every coiner to stop spending. We can have a game for those who buy tickets and for those who don’t. We can only hope Hutch realizes that fact before they kick us to the curb.
I guess it's the waiting game who gives up first lol
I personally think this will continue as it is , not sure about US but in EU i see more & more new heavy spenders emerging even lower level clubs coin hard now when they get the opportunity... So clearly it's working out for Hutch.
I also feel they should draw a line between f2p & p2p atleast then players know how far they can stretch and start to plan their gameplay. As of now its just the uncertainty which gets most of the players both f2p & p2p. The sooner they set those parameters the better it is imo.
The only thing Hutch needs to do to allow low spending or f2p to continue is add a small number of additional rewards to 20th place in h2h and evergreen events. Put a reasonably small number of gold keys in 20th place, and in the evergreen events after making them shootouts.
Ticket buyers can do whatever they want, and allow non ticket buyers to at least participate. By eliminating 100% of gold key availability to non coiners means they have to quit. Who’s going to play when you won’t get new cars? No new cars means no club points and no interesting events.
So my question is, why force the majority of players to quit for no reason? Getting us non coiners to quit won’t make coiners spend more. On the contrary, they will end up spending less when there is less competition everywhere eventually.
hello there
Hello
Yep 26 races in that Nissan H2H and not a single resource drop
Others were mostly Stage 4 and 2.
Same here got lot of resources few s5/6 as well
!update
Due on 13th - Monday
I've asked the data team to give us a "Top 10 Scores for all Club Seasons" 🙂 There wont be more granular detail given, but you'll be able to see where you're stacking in the points.
Top 10 individual scores or club scores ? 🤷♂️
individuals
Porsche's (h2h prize car) ladder/h2h events will be during one week gap between season or in the following season?
@hidden adder are you in mood to setup gk competition? With 10 winners atleast 🙂
It's not that i'm not in the mood for a comp - the problem is, today's my last day in the office and I can't award prizes if i'm not here 😅
Oh ok 🙂 sorry didn't realise that 🙂
Happy Holidays and hope you have a wonderful Xmas 🎄 & New Year with your loved 🥰 ones . See ya next year 🙂
Can you explain to me why after 6 runs I only have 78pts ?! SCG H2H, I received 5 to 21 points once, 78/6 = 13pts per ride, while almost all other players have 150 / 200pts ... another bug?! 🤬
@clear salmon Your ghost might have lost some races while you were gone. Did you check the race history?
H2h has just started, it's the 6 initial races, my opponents' points are very low, such a thing has never happened, I've been playing for almost a year
So your opponents bid only 5 points to you? Then you might be faster than them so they give you less points... And they might get 30 pointers as their opponents so they have high points... It's the same issue I'm facing right now lol
but the first 5 races you have no time, the opponents choose the game, and all between 5 and 21 points maximum, the sixth race where I had set the time, gave me an opponent of only 16pts…!
He raced too soon i think so didn't come across high points opponent in his initial 5 runs , similar thing happened in 6th race.
It is best to wait for sometime before doing your first round
@hidden adder I understand you may not have the required information yet for Porsche event, but appreciate if you could ask the team once more please before you sign out today. Thank you
@hidden adder can you find out please? Im waiting on this to decide if not to fuse my SCG or not.
No, I waited on purpose, I am not a novice, I have been playing for almost a year, I tell you that there is a bug, some have full scores, others half, I am going neither strong nor slow, but the scores do not reach 20
While others I talk to have normal scores, go up 26 points and do the same times as me
In that case it's best to contact CS with some screenshots
They can look into your account and see what could be causing this
Edited?
@hidden adder dear Katie can you fix the 5 points
Please
Event trophie C, again the same problem
The images in the image.
Also that app icon
🤔
don‘t tell me background of it is reused from Top Drivers
none of that image is from Top Drives.
@hidden adder @chrome lynx
Why you increase from 400 gold's to 480 gold's the tiers A ressources .
Please tell us why !!
This is really something not honest at all
What difference does it make? It has less than 200 gold worth of value.
Yes and also 5 tickets now
This is ridiculous for those who don't know
And it's mentioned ''' Tiers A ressources '' Rush''
Please all racers don't Rush
It's a worst event ever
Every resource ladder or rush or whatever name they give it is a guaranteed loss to the player. No one, under any circumstances, should enter them. It’s much cheaper to buy the resources you need.
Ian doesn’t work on the game anymore. I wish he did, but that ship has sailed.
This is showing us , the fake honesty of the game developer.
I don't know who works or not works I pick a name with logo profile .
And between you and me
This is the worst attitude and behaviour that a game developer is doing .
I want to spread the world news about this issue and other prior issue
@steep halo your need to read above
then it could be a leak for a new location
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I think you're just overthinking @wanton sorrel lol it's just a plain road.
this
A night time city track? 🤔
oof zooming in doesn't help
Lol, they won't give a new map this soon.
When is that?
like last time where we had images of the racetrack during offroad season
Hello @everyone
Hello Racers! I have a question, does anyone currently have both a Tier B '74 Porsche 911 AND the Tier B 2018 BMW M-2 Competition? After stage 4 they both have 390 PP but I'd like to compare the exact specs if anyone can post both vehicle specs.
Don't everyone answer at once...
I think players here have said repeatedly that pp and stats are not accurately reflective of speed. I’m guessing you are trying to figure out which is faster. My best answer is don’t bother with either and max the Ruf, if you don’t have or want the Ruf then it’s the the Ford GT.
if PP is not accurately reflective of a vehicle's speed/ performance then why would Hutch provide the data? I'd rather make decisions on objective data than somebody's recommendation. Also, I just want to see the post of these 2 cars to see the stats side-by-side.
Lol, they do lots of things that don’t make sense. They often copy and paste stats from car to car even those those two cars have different in game results. I have almost all the cars in the game. I have spent hours testing them head to head, as have many others here. We don’t “think” we know which cars are faster, we know it for a fact. I intentionally ignore pp and stats because they are quite literally irrelevant, only the track times matter.
then why not post your '74 911 then? why try to convince me instead of providing the info I asked for? that's not really helpful to me, just sayin'
I received my prize in the mail today from rebel racing, but I think they sent the wrong hat
@sturdy sage M2 with all S5 resources on & 4 star is 409pp, - The porsche with the same is 410pp.
I think you are mistaking how the game works, track times are real, objective evidence. While stats and pp are randomish guesstimates. But here’s mine…
thank you AlCanDo! So the Porsche is just slightly better by the numbers! I have my M-2 and I'm trying to decide if I want to merge it or wait to get a 911, I think I'll wait, but I AIN"T buying a RUF at 387PP (Stage4) despite people telling me it's 'better' than the M-2 or Porsche.
@paper wasp @turbid pine can you confirm if the prize hat should say shark instead of rr
thanks as well Zod for the post
Absolutely. The Porsche is better regardless of resources, the track its driven on or how its driven, so if I were you I would definitley go Porsche rather than BWW. Infact I would use the M2 as fusion fodder.
Yep! I just gotta wait out getting the 911...
Hi Rob! I can't confirm at the moment, but have left a message with the team for more info. 🤓
Great, decision made. Well done.
The RUF is faster than both Porsche and BMW. But if you don’t have / don’t want the RUF then the Porsche 911 is better than the M2.
The Ruff at S4 is 390 like the Porshe and the M2. The Ruff is faster than the Porshe. The Porshe is faster than the M2. Like Zod said PP and the stats are not gospel but what do us veteran players know.
Well when you max a B car please let me know, then I’ll race you in my Ruf and we’ll see what happens. But admittedly the GT is very close to the Ruf. They handle quite differently.
The Ruf, Mini, Porsche, and Ford GT all max out at 415. I trade wins and losses in my GT against Ruf drivers. My GT pounds on Porshes and Mini's.
Even here they cannot live without bugs.🤣 🤣 🤣
Cars worth fusing:
Custom Camaro, BRZ is good if you don’t have the Custom.
Custom Subaru, or Focus
Ruf or Ford GT
Carrera, but I’ve heard the A mini is fast too
the JCW Custom is next seaons prize car
and I want it
🤔
I know what would be interesting
you get a car that is the same Tier as the boss cars original car and also kinda handles like it
then you upgrade lt until you have similar stats as it's maxed full star stats
and then use it on test drive and compare
for example 4* maxed 22B compared with a simlar driving 4* car with similar stats
🤔
difference there is that the car similar to the 22B is one Tier higher up like Ernestos 22B
then you could kinda see how fast it would be if it had it's true stats
Can confirm this is right! 😄 Shark is one of the fictional in-game brands. 🦈
hi?
Thank you
👆 @sturdy sage ..direct info from hutch spoke person in support..for your info about how they see PP in developer perspective..thanks..hope this clarify things for you..
@sturdy sage you will not outrun an equally drive Ruf
Contact CS from in game and they can check why can't you buy it and why the price is not showing up
I think it's promotional with time restriction..
IAP is usually available all the time like mini / off road vehicles
How the reply is going to fuel ticket instaed to say that ' you, players need to fuse the car because you need to spend for our Christmas and year bonus '
I’m not sure why anyone would pay $10 for the 1600 now. You have already missed all the events for it and it’s not a good car.
hey guys can i ask if the C class Mitsubishi Evolution is a good car to max?
i’m planning to max it out and use it to race in the C cup races
I’m pretty sure the mitsubishi isn’t the best C class car but do you think it can keep up with the best C class car?
The best C is the Custom Subaru, it’s the pro pass prize in a couple weeks. If you can pay $10 the car is worth it. If you are completely f2p then the next best alternative to max is the Focus.
Exactly.
@opaque ridge You can buy the D tier Mini in the upcoming season... 1.99$ only... Plus will unlock the Italy region... Dunno if you have it already or not.
And there will be a crate for JCW too...
but i am f2p and don’t intend to spend a dime
i got the c class mitsubishi from the crates
i was just wondering if it can even keep up with some of the fastest c class cars
if i want to finish at least top 5
in the C cup
i do have good driving skills
@strange pasture You can get the C tier Ford Focus... It's good.
And it's a cash car.
but i like gangster looking car like the mitsubishi
😅
i intend to make the mitsubishi blacked out with black rims like a mafia car
that will make people scared when they race my car in the c cup
Oh, well, Mitsubishi ain't that good tbh...
Focus is the best since it's f2p and also drives well... But it's your call.
I already have the D,C,B and S for mini.Thanks
Great 👍
I'd say Subaru '15.
@strange pasture "I’m pretty sure the mitsubishi isn’t the best C class car but do you think it can keep up with the best C class car?" - Do you want to re-read what you've written there? 😏
The focus is your best bet in C tier as a free car. But the subaru custom is coming up in the next rebel pass over xmas, which is the fastest if it has all the augs on it.
LOL
Hi am new here so I don't know what to do now
just like every other person coming in here
Hutch needs to fix their sh1t or im out. $1 per race is the ticket cost, for 11 points? Everyone is maxing out their cars and then drag on the walls to keep the time slow? You are literally at a huge disadvantage if you drive fast. Its absolutely 100 ridiculous! And we (me included) keep following the pied piper.
@oak bane Mitsubishi cant touch the gt. Imo
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Toltac, I completely agree with you. Reality would kick in if the monetary price were shown in the game for entry to Ladders and H2H, in addition to ticket refills. But because all costs are shown in gold coins people somehow ignore the costs involved (very dangerous)!
The current points bug in the SCG H2H is causing this problem. Your right-side opponent there should be 25-28 points, not 11. It’s frustrating, I know. The sandbagging problem will only be dealt with if Hutch somehow incorporates PP into opponent matching or has objective times per track factored in. 🤷♂️
Im done maxing out cars until slow rolling is addressed. And to be clear, im slow rolling too, but i feel i have no choice .
The slower you go, the better you do! It’s a racing game after all 😄🙃
Slow is forever lol 😂
Slow is the new fast!
Why not just do away with the completely broken h2h system and replace it? Just have h2h be based on fastest times. Maybe get some points for each race, so buying tickets is still a thing, but you get more points from going faster than everyone else.
It’s even worse with T&L. Totally broken. The slowest times are often winning currently.
Hola
I’m asking honestly, can’t we just switch h2h so there is maybe a leaderboard of times, points are based off best times? Plus you get points for racing so tickets matter. Seems pretty simple to implement and Hutch will still make money on ticket buying, plus even more money because a lot of players will spend tons of gold maxing their cars.
Wouldn’t that grossly and over favour those with more upgraded cars? Maybe just incorporating PP and star rating matching into the current algorithm would go a long way to improve it. Not perfect but an a improvement I would think.
The easiest thing is to debug & fix the current h2h algorithm - don't see any point to complicate the game more then it already is lol
WTT alongside h2h is a good option and will be a nice addition / new game mode as suggested already.
That needs to be done too/first - fix the current points problem. But Hutch should think on solutions to help the problem of excessive sandbagging, especially for T&L. Part of the problem is, I think, that the S and GT cars are so expensive to upgrade fully that virtually no one wants to do that.
The current h2h causes players to quit, it’s the number one reason new players delete the game. They race hard all day, wake up the next day at zero points. The current system, even if debugged, radically favors sandbagging. The current system also favors targeting and destroying other players out of childish revenge ego trips.
There is nothing good or positive about the current h2h system. Why do you think every other racing game has 100 times the active players of this game?
Imo anyone arguing to keep the current h2h system is saying so because they exploit its shortcomings for their own personal benefit. They are not considering what would be best for the game overall.
I agree and yes there are loop holes that needs addressing- but realistically speaking like you said there is no perfect solution due to so many variables involved - pp, stars, upgrades, augment etc ... I have come up with a potential solution/ idea (it's still work in progress) which I will share with Hutch to see if that's something they might /can incorporate to discourage /minimise sandbagging 👍👍
Although like upgrading the cars , racing fast is one's choice similarly choosing not to upgrade/max cars and race slow is other's choice and we are no one to question it - in general we need to stop worrying about what others do it's their money their choice.
Our focus should be on Hutch to improve the game quality not consistently discuss other racer's choices and how they should race or why they spend etc.
What if they start the h2h with the worst time? So their worst time remains their best times? Sandbagging will never be stopped.
@slender shoal AND i would love to see the formula used to take all club points away from lower tier h2h events. It was the only thing keeping some type of balance & interest for the majority of players.
Sorry, you must have misunderstood what I wrote, best times in the bracket get the most points. It eliminates sandbagging permanently and forever. You get points for racing and for being faster than everyone else in your bracket. Going slow would serve no purpose.
The first guy in my bracket atm had like 28 sec slower time than mine... This whole h2h is a big mess... That's the reason I left playing h2h just after a month of starting this game... Only resumed bcuz of prize cars and clubs...
The best time in the bracket gets the most points if other player's time is near to that time... If there is difference of 28sec then +5 is the max you get 😅 , present h2h is best example. They've definitely messed up something this time.
Let me try to explain again, you keep thinking I’m saying modify the current system, I’m not. The current system is broken beyond repair. I could write pages and pages of why the current system is beyond hope of repair.
We need a new h2h, leaderboard is your combined times of the 5 tracks. Fastest times get the highest places on the leaderboard. That’s the easy part, the more difficult part is coming up with a reasonable point system where you get points for using your tickets to try to improve your times. That way ticket buying still exists, you can still buy the top spots as we do now, Hutch needs that.
'Where you get points for using your tickets to try to improve your times' I don't get this part. How will they account for it?
@slender shoal "The current system also favors targeting and destroying other players out of childish revenge ego trips."
This is especially true by doing this to players who use the word "bro" way too much!
It’s easy to set up a leaderboard just based on best times. Lowest time of combined 5 tracks wins, and goes in order from there. However, that doesn’t give players an incentive to use more tickets or buy tickets, which Hutch wants.
So I’m thinking, and also hoping anyone else here can come up with ideas too, that they create an incentive system for using your tickets . So it depends if we stick with time or points. If we just have time then using your tickets to try to get better times can give you a fraction of a second bonus. Therefore using all your tickets, ad tickets, and buying tickets helps. Or we can base everything on points, but you have to design a system for that.
Tbh I find no such system which could favour both sides... As Ian once said there are toi many variables to deal with in RR... And no matter what Sandbagging can never be stopped unless someone comes with a high tech algo...
There are some effective systems but then they want 💰 too...
If you put the position on the leaderboard based on your time, then sandbagging is permanently and forever removed. It’s impossible to game a system based on time. Fastest times win, period. I really don’t understand why players here think sandbagging is so great in a racing game. One simple change, it’s gone forever.
Well, then people with highest pp car wins the event easily... Told ya there's no system to favour both sides.
@idle cloak has been muted for: 9 weeks, 5 days, 17 hours, and 48 minutes
Reason: spam links
I suggested very good system about an year ago but you know it's 💰 that should matter for devs so ofc it didn't work.
Exactly and not to forget the advantages players will have who race with tilt controls - now imagine maxed cars ,best augs and tilt times lol 😂
At present I think they should look forward to fixing the matchmaking for both normal as well as T&L tracks.
I forgot tilt lol... Yeah that too is a thing now.
That's exactly the only and best solution under current circumstances- no need to complicate things more then they already are lol
You already know since when they are working on the chat feature...
And dunno if they can have two algo for normal and T&L tracks?
We seen what happened with introducing T&L that says it all lol 😂
Chat feature is not important now or next 4 seasons. The main thing is fixing the match making..
Would be better to have some mini old/unused cars seasons in between manufacturer seasons so that they get time to work on bugs... I've suggested it to Katie tho.
I didn't said that it's important... Just gave an example that how long new things will take to start from scratch.
@verbal knoll Titan was fun tho...
I did not said u said it is important.. I told from my point of view😅
Yes was very refreshing and a nice welcoming change 🙂
Nice point of view 😅
Tilt and pp are easily solved, but never mind. Neither the players nor developers of this game appear to have any interest in saving it. I’ll just sit back and watch it die while enjoying the ridiculousness of people throwing away hundreds of dollars a month on it lol.
Waiting for mini season lol, been a long time since we drove on Italy...
You mean flew over and crashed in Italy 😂😂😂
And the main thing is having all the cars fused maxed lol some season to relax lol
No comments 😂😂😂
Yeah that mostly lol
Wish DeLorean wasn't that expensive lol I wanted it for the D tier collection.
I was planning to buy few 😉 just for the sake of looks 😆😆
Yeah suits your name... Slow. @verbal knoll
I get the fact hutch's job us to make money AND im not complaining about spending, i grew up dumping quarters into defender, asteroids, etc. But this doesn't make sense.
1- most savvy players have recognized the cars dont need maxed out, ive stopped spending on them. 2- ive spent alot in the past on rematches when we were racing at full speed, ive not paid for a rematch in 2 months. 3- by taking away club points for lower tier h2h, they had to lose alot of their revenue base & the more experienced players are learning how not to spend. 4- if your not on discord hiw would you EVER know that the top 10 players are sandbaging ( including me) & thats why you never EVER get to race them, because they are slow rolling & your racing. 5- lastly im not sure how to think of this game right now other than dishonest to half the players.
Hutch is not going to fix the H2H algorithm. They don’t have the mathematical smarts to do so, and the software architecture decisions have their hands tied with no other options. Most importantly, Hutch doesn’t even care.
How many refills? 😂😂
It's ok you can tell me in DM if not here i know not many like to admit publicly 😂😂
I wil DM you my masterful strategy 😜
I await your DM 😉😉
No ticket buying? Wow that’s surprising. Mine has several that only too happy to spend 2000 gold for an extra 20 keys. I want to open my own shop in the game, I’ll happily sell my gold keys for less than 100 gold each.
There was one that would normally go to top from zero But gave up after couple of refills. It was hopeless. 🤣
Ah shucks, I feel terrible for them. Those innocent coiners don’t deserve this treatment, maybe we can put a fund together to ease their suffering.
Did you get the car? What position did you finish in the US server?
5 hours left. I don’t mind the SCG, it’s not terrible, the GT tier Ford custom on the other hand, ugh. I think I may hate it more than the GT1 lol, I want my keys back.
Does anyone remember what we used to get in a D car ladder? This seems low for the price of the car but I honestly don’t remember what’s normal for a D car…
And the DeLorean is IAP right?
$8 cash, almost as much as the whole pro pass 🤷♂️.
Hello Everest
Is this plate given to me by joining pacific coast cruiser?
this games ass it’s a whole copy
@slim lily Congratz!
@eclipse#2283 I do like the game. But i don't like many of Hutch's business decisions. It is just too greedy!
I actually do like the SCG. I just wish it wouldnt be so expensive to fuse and improve. But it's fun to race. :)
I rather sit in the ZR1 Custom next week
so I can get used to it and finally can grab Ava's Chiron for my garage
luckily Chevrolet is one of the brands where you can easily get augments for
right below Ford
Until the next pro pass.
depends on if you saved your progress
I think you have to do that over Facebook
and for some extra safety I would save the played ID somewhere
Hi guys
This game is pay to win?
depending on the situation you're in
one part of the game is fully playable
two only half
another one came very new and the only option to access that place is through time limited events where you get the cars that can be used for that location
looking at the events itself
you can say it's p2w if you're unlucky
btw tomorrow is the complain day for an overpriced item in this game
Can play together
If you mean MP then no
and it should stay as "no"
Oh cant play multiplayer
you can drive against ghosts from others in events but that's it
So what are the next cars we gonna get? Someone in here mentioned a Lambo last week or so. 
is it possible to win the boss car without the special nitros?
Technically yes, but it’s definitely not worth it. The Boss cars are basically useless for racing. They are just for collecting, just ignore them and continue your progress. To win without paying a lot for super nitro you have to slow down your progress by many months.
I like to make my progress as slow as possible, I will get the boss car then.
If you want to do that, Samsung is the expert on it.
I use Apple
🤣
Lol, sorry @wanton sorrel is the expert, he actually is doing it, slowed down his progress to get the boss cars.
Tier D and A are the races where I gurantee you to get super nitro
you need fully maxed out cars and extreme good skill (and rng because of the unnesecary auto-brake issue)
the other three also need fully maxed out cars but less skill
I prefer cars from Ford
they have the best chances for augments and fusion credits
13% I think
I only paid 6€ for Tier D and A super nitro together
Tier C was completed in a JCW and B in a 911 Turbo
I'll complete S in the ZR1 Custom (finally)
I prefer the Focus RS for C and the GT for B and S
@simple ice Pls post it only in the #🎥│player-videos 🙂 , we made that separate channel for that very purpose. Thank you.
Yes sorry was a fault be pasting the link 😂
The RR discord popo 🤣🤣
Hey
Somwone can help me pliss ?
With wa
So how long does it take customer service usually to get back with you?
24-48 hrs, but we are in special times, most of Hutch is out of office for the year-end season..
Great I bought a vets pro bundle deal and it charged me but didn't credit so wait it is I guess
😋
Ooooh,very pricyy...
1-9th position it hard to compete with coiner.Maybe HUTCH can extend big reward to 1-19th for patients skill racer. 😋
@wanton sorrel but you only have 1 attempt so you would have to be very sure you will win right?
100% overpriced. Even at half the cost it’s not a good deal.
@muted girder Hey man, I tried to send you Dm but it just won't let me, sorry for resorting to tagging you here
Hey, just send you a friend request!
Ready
Mega balls
Nah alot of people just got random redirected to this server
guys
if i need parts for an upgrade for my car
should i buy it with gold?
or keep grinding races?
i need parts for my tier S ford GT
i been racing over 100 races and i aint finding a nickel at all
so what do i do? do i spend over 300 gold and buy the parts?
or what
Henlo
hello my fren
Not worth..just concentrate on farming until you get it..it will be long way..but you will get there eventually..that gold is more useful to enter event when you already advance..don't waste your gold..
hello
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hello my name is supra
I hope a stock and not annoying one
Wawaweewa, that A Resource Rush is best deal…… Not! It’s not very niiiiiice Hutch.
They can't hear you. It's sunday evening.
Quick go flush $7.99 down the toilet for this 💩.
£6.99 for a car that will be used for 3 (probably broken) events and then sit in the garage for ever …. That’s a hard no from me. If it were 99p I may have gone for it.
I can’t believe players chose to get the Porsche BMW crate. But I guess I should have known a free crate would have worthless contents. I would have rather just received 50 gold then everything in the crate.
Hmm, the prize colors are a bit…
Hello
I haven't seen a DeLorean before! Is it a cash only car or can it be gotten in a crate?
Cash only
It’s a different shaped car going around the same six tracks we’ve had for 2 years for less gold and less keys.
What the what? How does one get this free crate?
Get today’s update from your App Store, restart the game, crate should just pop up.
Thx 🙏
🙏
Anyone got the Delorean ? How does it handle? 🙂
E
I got it and I’m enjoying it a lot! I might not be the best judge of how something drives in this game, but I don’t notice anything super weird like how the Caterham can’t corner or the 911 feels light and slippery or the Chiron feels a bit like a yacht… it kinda feels a bit like the ford GT maybe? tight, responsive, and fast. Or it could just be how cool it looks. Though I’m a bit bummed I had to shell out gold to get something that looked a little more like the proper brushed stainless finish than the super-reflective silver foil.
I should be grinding S EZ$ for cash and resources, but I keep wanting to race it again. I wish it didn’t come at the loss of cash and resources to use it!
Well if you like and enjoy racing it that's the important bit 💪💪 thanks for the update
Hi
Any1 got the pacific coast cruiser prize yet?
You need to update the game and you should see it in offers 👍
Rip connection,stuck at 16%
Oof
365 Days with #RebelRacing 😂 So pumped to harvest the daily rewards
Hey, it’s got 1000 cash in there, that’s awesome. You only need 13,436 more days like that and you can fuse an S tier car. So you have that going for you.
Hutch_Ian did say they were ”improving” the game so it had a longer upgrade path.
Just completed the Tier C campaign and got the C63, should I upgrade it as is or get the M2?
Since I have enough money for it
Imho the M2 is better.
The M2 is better but you may not have enough cash after to upgrade and complete Tier B
But in the long term the m2 is better right?
It is, but you can always buy it later. You choose your strategy. Mine was to go through using the cars you are given to complete Tier B and A etc. $194k will soon get used up.
is the m2 competition one of the best B class car?
like top 3 B class car? would u guys say so?
Tier B: I have the 2017 AMG GT with 411 PP. I like it :)
Are you buying the Mini Cooper? I remember I used to have it but did not like the racing too much. What are your thoughts?
RUF3800S beats most but depends on what Augs you get maybe.
Oh I see, the Ruf is available in silver crates?
Ah ok, did you win the boss cars?
Currently 1449 gold, but I got mine ages ago at a slightly better deal but it was for dedicated events. I cheated and bought the super boosts to get boss cars. If not, you need patience to get fused cars to beat bosses. My Porsche Turbo was my best before then, but do not underestimate the Mini. That costs real money tho.
I won 4 of 5
but it will be 5 of 5 soon
except something unexpected happens and I lose
I can imagine my game crash during the race and Hutch not doing anything even when I send them a time of my race which is faster than the required time to win the car
🤔
Hi
Let it snow
Hello
now you won't get anything
no
welcome to the western part of Germany
the place where you only see snow every two years
once
💯
In the long term the Ford GT is your best bet unless you spend money on the game and can afford the Ruf. The Ford is almost as good as the Ruf and you most likely will win it in time from a crate. I’d say just upgrade the B car you have just enough to win the A car.
@pulsar salmon Totally agree with that. Upgraded my C63 to pp372 to open Tier A and thats where it stayed.
I noticed in Germany when you go to Koln (in the west) the beers are small, I had just traveled from Munchen, where the beers are huge!
@sturdy sage In Cologne the traditional beer is called "Kölsch" and is 0.2 liters. In Munich you probably had a measure, are 1ltr. Or half, are 0.5 ltr. 😉
Oh nice! I found the Koenigsegg One:1 🥳
Oof
You‘re a bot.
Why is the Lamborghini Veneno so unappreciated in the car community? :C
I think it deservesore attention
Deserves more*
well
what about other car companies who get almost no attention?
Ariel is one good example.
First ignored but the moment you find out about the company you start to like it.
lol what a game profil photo i still got the Raptor one
And btw. got a vinyl for the M2 but can't find it ...
Centenairo
Finally not stuck anymore
I also remember this was supposed to be 465 before
Oof
I love how in this game u get a free car each tier
But one thing I don't like is when u complete the box smash daily event
The noice it makes
When counting ur points
It's like a smoke alarm
U will know what I mean when u do it
I just speedran through Tier b
Is this car any good or are there better alternatives?
Same answer as before, upgrade it only enough to get the S tier car. The best A tier is the Porsche Carrera, you should get that from a gold crate at some point.
Yo
Is any one up because I have a question
Let's hear it :)
@steep halo can you please confirm that Porsche will have a free ladder and one paid h2h just like Lotus ?
Also when these events are planned to run ? Bcz next week is M4 and Custom ZR events 🤷♂️
they will run
idk when tho
Next week - Round 1 + Round 2 + Ladder.
that‘s after the season tho
Are you sure about this ? 🙂 bcz from what I remember lotus only had ladder and one h2h which was gold entry
Yes, it will be different - and hopefully better - with the 992.
Also 3 x ladder and 6 x h2h in one week? Doesn't sound right 🙂
This means h2h will be overlapping badly 😦
a couple of bucks and everything will be ... ok
You should have enough time to spread your ladder progression throughout the week. We'll do our best with the H2Hs overlap 🙂
I personally don't see how you will control the overlapping but let's see 👍 at the end of the day its already planned anyway and cannot be altered so we will just have to go with it as always 🙂
5 days left and I'm at Lvl 33 of the pass 🥲
Slackers 😂😂
It will be tricky trying to do the ladder, fuse (if you still have those wretched fusion requirements in ladders) and do the H2Hs, given the cars can’t be used while fusing. Can you please think through that? 👍
With Bob gone from Hutch I wonder if we will ever get to see a balanced car in the game again 😦 #missing_Bob
Wait we cant buy cars (which say they can be bought from money) any other way apart from real money?
I wanted to buy Mercedes G63 but it said real money so there isn’t any other way?
giveaways from the content creators itself
but no one does that tho
but not worth getting one
been told the K5 Custom isn't good against the Titan
Unless it is given away in a competition at some point. But that usually happens early on when it's released, so it's unlikely with the G63.
Can we use any T&L car in the final Porsche H2H? At least I do not see any requirement for specific T&L car.
Hello I just join the game
Hello
@steep halo You can check #💡│tips-and-tricks and #📚│faqs
Hi, Sorry I don't understand you.
I am from Brazil.
I wanted my suggestion to be in the game so we could play with our friends
You can use an S or GT tier T&L car in the Porsche prize h2h.
hello
Hi
Not as simple as that..still lots of suggestions that Hutch not yet implement..
I'm almost giving up. 5 weeks trying to gain piece level 4 and nothing.
Are you not able to complete campaign with the car ?
I think 545 was enough when i done it years back
No da, is weak to face her. The pieces are very scarce and it discourages the game a little, I've been playing for a long time and none of the pieces are not even in stock, where you buy them with gold
Vou tentar comprar com ouro
Yes, Hutch made it too hard to upgrade cars now, they increased the resources parts requirements too much. We told them this would cause new players to quit, which it does, but they don’t listen to us.
Yes. don't give up because the game is good, better car game, but it's complicated almost 6 weeks trying and nothing. I had 1,000 gold, I had to spend it all with modification because the right people don't come, only level 5 and 3
You are going to find that you have to be incredibly patient (not weeks, but months) to progress in the game. You will miss all kinds of events and new cars. As long as you maintain that discipline and keep your expectations low, you will be fine. Hutch designed this game to get you to pay, and if you start paying, you will be sorely disappointed in this game - just read the comments here going back in time. I would encourage you to maintain a disciplined F2P approach.
I understand. but don't get me wrong because it wasn't a criticism of the game in reverse for me and the best car game I played, my comment was just a comment about the parts taking a while to be found to see if I get a tip from the guys
Only thing you can do is use a lot of gas everyday in S tier easy money. If you use 100 gas per day you should get about 20 resources on average. But that takes a lot of time everyday.
Achieve without even leveling
I can't understand the language , is it saying you need to upgrade? Or is it saying the race is difficult?
which level of easy running is best for earning A and S mods?
The race is difficult without leveling. but manage to win
I thought so , don't worry about that message lol
You can win it
which level of easy running is best for earning A and S mods?
Yes
Tier S is the best as it pays out higher cash - but personally i find Tier A better for Stage 4 parts
Yes. I need modification A and S
You can split , do double payout in S tier & easy money in A and even mix them up 👍
OK thanks
Brasileiro mano?
@daring tartan Tu e brasileiro?
Sim
Pelo menos não e só eu aqui de brasileiro.
Yes
;-;
Caraio.
Não tou entendendo nada aqui.
Put a beach race, And also add the MULTIPLAYER that would help with the development of the game, if I say something wrong because I'm Brazilian.
Ganhemo 😎
De boa. Qualquer sujestão e legal
?
@daring tartan Faz tempo que tu tá aqui?
Sim
Cya everyone
Criei um clube para os brasileiros, todos os brasileiros podem entrar para dar uma moral para o nosso país.
It’s not worth upgrading.
I am new to Rebel racing so I hv only 3 cars
Dang, what a waste of silver keys lol
I recommend locking one of every car, never know when you might need it. Then when you get duplicates you use them for fusion fodder. But it’s hard to upgrade cars now so I think players should just focus on the better ones.
How can I play but I want to drive freely
no free cruise mode in this game...
Ok
Anyone know what the max pp is for the mustang GT custom?
Xd
508PP for the Mustang GT.
I need some gold plz😁
Not gonna be easy
@ancient lodge it's so hard in my country i can't get Google play card
At least try yourself
@ancient lodge Well, let's see how lucky we are
@ancient lodge Haha okay maybe we should focus more
@plain laurel sorry for ping I want to talk to you in dms but I can’t cuz it says recipient isn’t accepting something like that
So just message me
1 sec
Nvm
Nvm
She's away for the holidays... @ancient lodge
Dk
Guys, join my club to get me the corvette, please I'm a beginner I started playing yesterday.
Also can someone tell me how to fuse the car like the process of doing it
Fusing is a long term goal, definitely going to take a long time for a new player if they don’t spend a lot of real money. You need fusion credits, the top number to the left of your level. Currently you have 0 Ford Fusion credits, as you can see from the bottom right you need 25 for the first fuse.
Then the separate thing you need is fusion fodder, the bottom bar shows you need 100. You can use duplicate cars you have as fodder, but lock one of each car. Or you can buy cash cars to get fodder. My spreadsheet in tips and tricks shows you need $272k in game cash to get the 100 fodder you need.
Many cars are not worth fusing, your Mach 1 is a good example, it’s not worth fusing it.
I see in the thread above the Max PP for the Custom Mustang GT ( tier A) is 505. Does anyone know the max PP for the Tier A McLaren 570 and the Corvette (bought for gold) ???
Mustang GT is 508, McLaren 570 is 520. Don’t know about ZR1 tho.
thanks Chris! that's a big difference, the Mustang is really weak. I'm still holding out for some McLaren fusion points.
What tier am I from?
This game sucks
be patient Shark, you can't build Rome in a day
Yeah I know, but all that bugs all this ridiculously overpriced stuff and and. Really I regret and hate myself that I installed it
Patient? He’s been playing a very long time lol.
Rebel Racing is more fun than Top Drives (also a Hutch game) and I never spend real money. I maximize what I can in-game, I've accomplished most of what I've set out to do through patience and regularly racing.
I have been playing for nearly a year now, for reference
You don’t buy the pass or once gold ?
Heck no! I NEVER use real money
Are you in a club?
I own Rowdy Rabbit Racing, I created the club on the 1st day clubs came out. We are legendary!
That’s a good plan. But for me, I get bored just running easy money forever. New cars and good events are fun, but you can’t do most of them without spending unfortunately. But I just get the pro pass now, so no great expense.
Why not join a top 20 club so you get a free car?
Hmm 🤔 well I won’t pay anymore either. Even for the Rebel pass. It might I get kiked from team but I don’t have time either anymore. So good bye
I've thought about that Zod, but I actually enjoy calling the shots with my own club. I have 2 really good players who are better than me.
I am only trying to fully merge ONE car per tier, so as to save on resources, despite the offers the game presents trying to get me to go in a different direction or build up some other car I ain't focusing on.
If you only going for best in each tier then Carerra GT is the car - McLaren won't beat it. If you don't have Carerra then Tier A mini concept is best choice ( it can be used in both mini tracks and on road tracks) - McLaren should be upgraded as last option.
Slow and steady - I have both the Tier A McLaren 570 and the '04 Porsche Carrera, both have 494 PP after Stage 4 but looking at the speed/ nitro of the McLaren, it is higher than the Porsche. The Porsche only has slightly better handling. How can the Porsche be better?
This is an arcade game and the stats / pp values don't represent true potential of any car - but as thumb rule better handling means the car will do much better in corners- in RR majority tracks are small and with lot of bends , turns so a car with better handling will be a plus always
But at the end of the day it is your call 🙂 players here can only suggest based on experience. Many senior racers have all 3 cars maxed out. They have tested it too.
Hutch themselves have said pp and stats are just general estimates and not to be taken literally. The fact remains that the Carrera will produce better times in A tier tracks than the McLaren. But I’d say the McLaren is good, one of the best in the tier, it’s just that the Carrera produces better times on these tracks. I was actually the first to post about it and no one believed me lol, the McLaren had been the go to car.
Carrera is the fastest car in every tracks in Tier A. After that it's MIni and the McLaren.
Ok thanks
After I got finally the Carrera. It’s broken all records from the A McLaren. PP and stats doesn’t matter. Btw it’s like with the Koenigsegg everyone says it sucks well until you upgrade it with S6 resources then it’s a great with S Augs it’s an beast!
The Mini PP is one of the lowest in Tier A (max 510) and its a top 3 car. Perfect example that PP and stats don't mean a lot. I actually think Hutch screwed this one up badly.
Then you have the Ruf Custom with one of the highest PP and it's a dog.
They were gonna fix it when bob was here and then he left and nobody bothered.
you are fighting campaign at which boss? that how you determine your tier..
I'm in the 5th boss of the 2nd thing.
I'm in the 5th boss of the 2nd thing.
maybe you are already in tier S then..
No.
lol..what car are you using currently...?
Subaru, Going to Mercerdz
so you are in tier C then..
I think so.
Are there many Brazilians here?
no
Sad
@slim lily you dont like the ruff?
The custom was suppose to be faster. They said they were gonna fix it but never did and moved on to other project.
The custom Ruf is faster than the regular Ruf by a little, but it’s slower than several other cars in the tier.
Man, it's really annoying to wait for the fuel to load and I want to get the mercerdz soon 😔
It's not like they don't want to fix - there is just no one to do it - there is serious shortage of staff & it reflects in almost every section of the game from planning to execution 🙂
I can assure you this won't change we just have to adapt.
Sup everyone
I love my McLarens. They're beast. ... unfortunately there are barely any races where I can make them shine. 🤣
have you looked at their website?
They appear to ‘Talk a good game’ on their website, but in reality it appears that very little effort has been put into the continued development and execution of this game /product. I would even go as far as to say that this game is now being left behind it’s direct competition, almost like racing in a T&L daily challenge! I’m finding now that I’m bored with this game in comparison to another leading competitors game!
Well at least I got another Chev D Aug out of it. Seriously!!
Most of the time I win worthless in game cash, or D Augs. As I said in my previous post it’s becoming a bore playing this game, in comparison to other mobile racing games. The last few months appear to be a ‘Copy and Paste’ rota of events!
I am looking forward to getting Subaru custom finally tho
Hii
Maybe my next personal challenge is to get less than 44 points with 12 or more crates. Can I be bothered to work out the minimum score? Nope.
As expected, only top 9 winners for Porsche.
Another event to skip.....
@torpid hemlock I was refering to their employees (our people) and the notion that " there is serious shortage of staff"
It now feels with this game, that’s it’s less about the enjoyment of racing (which first attracted me to this game) and now purely about repetition of doing certain activities within it, purely to earn gold coins. Although I purchase the season pass and enter certain H2H events (other than just the daily tier D), it’s now so predictable. This game used to be some I enjoyed playing, but now just feels like I chore. The other game I’m playing is purely racing and earning new vehicles, purely as a reward to good racing and not by having g to purchase wins or vehicles.
That’s Hutch’s issue. If the fail to resource themselves adequately, which results in a poor quality experience for their customers, they should not be offering a product and/or service which the proclaim to be offering.
@oak bane where are you seeing that?
The only thing I will miss about not entering that event, is seeing what crazy points the winners achieve. Not for me.
It should appear for you in US shortly
You can always ask your teammates for screenshots 😉😉
Anyone see the point of the triple tier S ladder? Although no fusion is required, previously you could pick up 200 or so fusion points for each manufacturer. Perhaps should have gone straight to H2H Shootout?
I see the point and I actually like it - I can't say much bcz then Hutch will use it against us lol 😂
Fair enough. Maybe its because I need 200 K1 points… but I am sure newer racers also need fusion points
I seen some time back buy not recently, something i missed 🤷♂️
@hidden adder has anything been corrected or adjusted to the speed issues of the tracks and laps cars yet? Need to know before the upcoming h2h thanks.
GT cars should be faster than tier S cars.
Looks like I’m skipping this event as well lol
How does one obtain the Tier C Subaru Custom???
You need a Rebel pass that offers that car as a prize if I’m not wrong
the custom Camero (Tier D) was offered on Black Friday for Gold, I was hoping there may be another such opportunity for the Custom Subaru
Dang I missed out on that custom Camaro, I wasn’t even playing the game at that time lol
it was a good deal for 500G! The Custom Subaru has 3 more PP than the Ford Focus, which is otherwise the best Tier C car I could get.
Good Day @everyone
I'm Elia, Gameplay Designer on Rebel Racing. I take care of cars, physics and general balancing, and I wanted to take a moment to address some feedback we've been seeing around Tracks & Laps.
I’d like to start by saying a big thank you to everyone that’s taken part in Seasons 1 and 2 and for all the feedback received.
There has been a lot of discussion recently about Tracks and Laps (T&L) across the community. We hear what you are saying and are working to fix some of the issues most widely discussed.
The key challenges we are working on at the moment are Tier GT cars and their Speed Limits as well as the car database which houses all the data relating to the cars.
The team and I have a solution which we are currently working on and expect to be ready early next year.
I’m working on a longer and more in depth post I’d like to share with you at the beginning of January that will explain in more detail the problems faced, how they came about and what the intended fix is.
We really appreciate all of your feedback so far, and please do keep it coming.
Elia
Can you give us a hint as to what the fix is? Currently tier B T&L are faster than the rest of the tiers, and tier GT is the slowest. So will you be slowing down cars to fix it, making some faster, or changing them all?
Buy the Pro Pass on the 27th and you will get it.
thanks Zod but I won't spend real money. I am taking your advice tho and saving up for my Tier B RUF, I sure hope you guys are right...
The Ford GT is almost as good as the Ruf if you don’t want to spend the gold.
As for the Custom Subaru, it was offered for gold more than a year ago, before I started playing. This next pro pass is the first time it’s been offered at all since then. You’d have to ask Katie if if will ever be offered for gold again.
The keys are the only reason but it isn’t a great deal. There should be an S augment for each of the two manufacturers there.
Thank you. You only mention Tier GT cars and their speed limits. That sounds like you plan to remove or increase the speed limit on tier GT cars. That will help those cars but it will not solve the remaining problem that both Tier A and Tier S cars are also slower than the Tier B cars.
@plain laurel Thank you for letting us know. I'm hoping the issue regarding matching opponents & points earned in h2h T&L, is part of what is being worked on, its currently horribly nonsensical. Again thanks for reaching out.
Hey, thanks for your questions guys, I really understand you want to know more, but for now I only can tell you to wait for my in-depth post, I'll send it in the first days of January. In the meanwhile have great holidays
Clearly Hutch is aware of this issue, along with many other issues that are usually labeled "we are looking to fix this <insert issue here> in the near future".
What are the benefits as a player who is playing these flawed games? Clearly the only one benefiting here is Hutch. Is that really your business plan? "Pay a lot of real life cash to play our flawed and buggy games on the premise that something may be fixed in the future long after the events are over?"
Will there ever be an honest explanation why these flawed/buggy games are continued to be offered at premium prices? Is it Hutch's position that because the flawed/buggy games hurt all players from mega-coiners to freeloaders its OK and nothing needs to be done now?
“Freeloaders” ? Um, them’s fighting words lol.
Wait mach 1 has a half steering wheel 😳
I'm pretty sure that's what Hutch calls those who spend less than $500 a month! 😂
Никого русского нет?
You’ve got a better chance of getting a straight answer from a politician 🤣
What language is that? 🤔
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Hi Elia, nice to meet you. Thanks for looking into these issues!
I like the new garage decoration. :) 🎄
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Can any admin give me the "TIER B"? I have a class B car, the mercerdz AMG goods, please?
You do it yourself, just go to the Role Setup channel in the list on the left.
I can't just admin, please some admin power?
Go to that channel, click the B at the bottom of the post.
Can someone sample me with if done?
what
I am unable.
Thank @wanton sorrel .
still don‘t understand how you failed to do it yourself
like those people who can‘t find #💬│general
yes, there are people who don‘t know where #💬│general is so they end up writing in #🎥│player-videos
Which car is faster when maxed out: BMW M8 GTE or SCG?
Me too :). I just wish it was way cheaper to succeed in this game
@bronze pebble OMG! You have the full Mini family already. Nice.
and the prize car!
Can someone put me in some high club to get me the covertte I only have a bad car, please😔☹️😩
Someone can? that can put me in allto rank groups, to get me covertte
Someone can?
For me to get this Corvette
Can someone please?
The problem is that I'm in a club that I created, I don't know why I created
You need to build up your garage and experience a bit before any club in the top 20 will give you a chance. However, I give you 10 out of ten for trying!
You could join Street Kings 2
I'd say 8 out of 10 max. Minus points for being in the wrong chat room ;) ...
You would have to close / leave the team you setup. How many players in your team?
;-;
1
Go to promote a club section and see who is interested
Excuse me.
I'm going to see it here now, what if there's no one?
There will be
There will be what?
There's only me at the club but no one.
@bronze pebble Are you in a high club?
Team managers are always promoting their clubs and looking for new players. You're not going to achieve anything in a team of 1
Yes that's why I want a bigger team to get me the Corvette
Too late to join a club now, all clubs are locked 3 days before the end of the season.
A vey wanted to get this Corvette so bad, My cars are all crap.
Don’t worry; the Corvette will be crap too.
@slender shoal You can help me, no? I so wanted this Corvette?
Like I posted, Hutch locks clubs 3 days before the end of the season. No club can let you in for this season.
But it's faster than the AMG mercerdz
Okay, thanks 😔
Doesn’t matter. You can be in the top 3 with a slow car in this game.
😔
Я Русский
Is it possible to hit more than 1 box at a time in the Rebel Smash Event?
Yes upto 4 boxes
Wow! How?
You bumb into the wall just before the boxes - the car resets and you can drive right side and hit 2-4 boxes
Thanks, I’ll give it a try.
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Buy the Tier A corvette it’s almost the same just pay lot of gold 🤣
@verbal knoll when car re-reset make sure you got left turn on before you take off and you can clip the box next to you.
Guys how do I set up my account so it doesn’t say I’m a rebel racer 94835284936
If you don’t want a RebelRacer number you need to go to the settings and link your Facebook or Google play account.
I connected it to my apple account but idk how to change my username
Doesn’t work with Apple unfortunately, I’ve asked that they let us use our Apple Game Center name but they never did anything with it. Your only choices are the evil biased privacy stealing Facebook or Google.
But connecting your Apple account is still good, if your account gets messed up or your switch devices it backs up your account.
Oh alright thanks, ig I’ll just stick with the rebel racer elite name eh
A lot of people just setup a fake fb account to set the name.
Eh too much work just for a name, but thanks for the info
Yo who’s online
Busy racing ... 😅
@cloud hare has been muted for: 98 weeks, 1 day, 10 hours, and 18 minutes
Reason: spamming link
Lmao imagine
98 weeks lol
That’s nearly 2 years
I would just make a dog account by then
*dif
@~Ananasna23⚡~#1137
My record is 18 total....if you bump the wall just right you can bounce off and get the whole row minus 1 or 2 without resetting....takes a lot of practice and luck tho
If a year ago they put an S car for sale for $75 real money everyone would have thrown a fit and said they were crazy. Yet I’m seeing players spend that right now to get the Porsche. Honestly I find it very entertaining and informative to watch, and I give Hutch credit for coming up with a way to get players to spend $75 on a single game car. I wonder what the next iteration will be to get these same players to spend $150 on a single car?
Does anyone know when the "12 days of Christmas" start?
According to the patch notes, not until next mini Mini season that starts on the 27th.
Thanks @slender shoal , I did read them, just didn't take in all the details. I'd assumed they would start before Christmas.
Yes, the 12 days of Christmas doesn’t start until after Christmas is all done, that’s how we do things around here lol.
I am new here
So, will you try to get the Porsche car from the h2h prize event?
Hi guys
Aren’t the 12 days of Christmas the days from 25th December to 6th January? 🤓
yes
@lyric ibex has been muted for: 98 weeks, 1 day, 10 hours, and 18 minutes
Reason: spam links
Hiiii
hi
Am I going to spend $75 on a car, any car, in this game? Lol, no, never.
Ok..noted..👍 👌
Actually it could be $100 worth of refills and gas the way of these guys are going. Still many hours left of mindless coining.
Have you currently give it a try and just play casually in that event..? I'm sure 500 gold is not a problem to spend for leisure from player on top club like you..or you have strict rules on your gold spend and just skip that event..?
I’m in the event because there are gold keys for 20 to 39, and I’ve been asking Hutch for that for a long time. So the event itself is fine, I just think players are spending way way more than the car is worth. I’d get the Porsche for a few refills but not 20 refills lol.
What if someone gets the car with no refills bought?
Then they should be forced to switch servers with me 😉😂.
Are you referring this to sandbagger technique user..?
But still people sandbag + coin... What can you say lol
@solar vessel You from Asian server?
The new algo is forcing players to sandbag which is terrible. I’m trying very hard to get Hutch to change that. It’s ridiculous that a racing game encourages it.
Even if I get the car... I have no resources to upgrade it @slender shoal
Yep, that slow piece of poop GT tier stole all my resources lol.
There is one solution... Remove parts to be purchasable for golds from the upgrade section... That is what spoiled the whole game... The game would be a lot fair then... Keep the parts in the shop but not at the upgrade section.
Yup..I'm from asian..
You just gave them the idea to have resources only purchasable by gold and no other way 🤦♂️😂. They like to do the opposite. This game is only for the 150 big coiners, the rest of us don’t matter.
Half of the racers that you see now end up top3 in every h2h... They were not even top9 before... It's just this resources available for golds that their every car is maxed... What a bad update they did...
Yup .there are some of them that I see in my bracket in couple of h2h previously and current h2h..
Imagine having a S6 maxed car and setting a 3 sec slower time than a S4 maxed lmao...
That too in a M8 😂
I only have one single car completely maxed with s6 and augs. I race that one all out, as it should be. Too bad they ruined the evergreen events.
I have several S6 but they're low tier...
I’m going to try to max the Custom Subaru but then it will sit in my garage collecting dust 😭😂.
They seriously need to work on the game but God knows what they're doing... Would be sad to leave this game!
They are making boats loads of money with so many willing to pay whatever they ask for with cars, resources, and to win races and the season. They have ZERO incentive to make the game more playable and fix things until the spending patterns change. It's all about economics now.
Actually I'm not asking for any new thing... Just fix the godamm thing already there lmao 😂
The prices will continue to go up, rewards will continue to go down. If customers will pay $75 for a car without hesitation then the only logical thing to do is charge more next time. If players will buy the pro pass after the rewards have been reduced significantly twice, then it makes sense to reduce rewards further. We have the game that the top few clubs have created. It is what it is, nothing the rest of us can do about it 🤷♂️.
Hey, yall! How do I do to play online with my friends? is it possible?
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ok bye merry christmas
Actually there is no real time MP, but you can do head 2 head races which involves other player's ghost... And yeah Merry Christmas.
@slender shoal there are good club leaders dennis, slow & shtrudel to mention a few. The top teams could fix these issues with out hutch. Im not sure when that happen but it wouldn't be hard. For now i dont think individual players should be introducing rule changes to hutch, if theres been an election for a player rep, i missed it. We need solutions & consolidation to have game changes, not endless complaining about "coiners" & strategies. Im unaware of any good game that doesn't have competitive players spending money & im guessing without them we wouldn't have a game. We need to turn to club leaders!
Yo guys
there will be no solidarity between the clubs. passed already.
How much club points do you make per race if you use a s class car
the result is only one:
https://c.tenor.com/k08zOzHJqvIAAAAM/headbang-banging.gif
Anyone????
100 points if its 6* - i m not 100% sure but i think it is correct
Damn
Then how tf do some ppl have like millions of club points
Won’t be surprised if it’s a script
Script doesn't/can't work in this game
So they just grind full time
Its the events that gives lot of CP some give millions even
Then ofc there is spending element to it
And so on ...
Yo
Change ur user and ur pfp
Some of us grind, but the top clubs get their points from paying money for new cars. Events for new cars have a huge amount of points in them.
But you can get 100 club points from a maxed fused S car that’s not part of that month’s club theme. The max fused S tier cars from T&L give 250 points per race because this is a T&L club month.
Oh okay
Di you speak polish
@lost beacon fair enough. However totally disagree. The handful of top club leaders ive interacted with seem to have character and could easily get massive changes made. Its just a matter of an open discussion, and a pact including strict guidelines for a specific short amount of time. Hutch wants to make money like any business should, this game is a spreadsheet to them. We just need to show that serious minded, loyal players can introduce formulas to the revenue column. Im not sure this forum is the best place for that discussion. Most importantly i dont think that constant miscellaneous complaining from a handful of people who profess not to spend real money is in any way going to provoke any meaningful changes.
We tried that. The top few clubs have no interest in that, they are ok with how things are.
You're right. But this needs someone to do it. Will you deal with this issue?
I need a hero
I'm holding out for a hero 'til the end of the night
He's gotta be strong
And he's gotta be fast
And he's gotta be fresh from the fight
I need a hero
So I did end up on position 20 - without any extra gold spent. I feel like that's ok. I had some good races :).
You did great 💪💪 well done 👏
🙏
Bruh
hi guys am new here
Yes . You’re not the first ... and you won’t be the last .
It’s great to have spirit .. 9 months ago I had the same will to fight and organize that you do now.
I have since walked away from the game . I stop back every so often to see how the cycle is repeating itself
Great song for a submarine sandwich ad
can we play this game in any computer system
Damn same time lol
$100+ worth of gold for an S tier car. Wow, I was wrong, congrats to the developers.
Caralho
Does anyone have upcoming schedule?
@slender shoal
Your spot on zod. Calculate the cash for my bracket top 7 @ 50 cents a ticket with avg. Of 26 points per race. Its mind bending.
Schedule for next season you mean ?
https://www.hutch.io/our-games/rebel-racing/patch-notes/20211210-v12_0-club-season-8-mini-MINI/
@verbal knoll Thank You
Some got lucky with Porsche 😆😆
@verbal knoll is it better to wait & enter late to get softer field? Or just luck.
There are too many variables honestly - sometimes it works other times i don't
@azure ice 🤠
Well, to be fair there is a 1 there so it’s not an exact copy 😉. But they failed to spend $100 for one virtual car, so they should be banned from the game forever 😂.
@ what club are you with?
Not sure who you are talking to, but just as an fyi it’s easier to click on a person’s message, then click “Reply” instead of using the @ to tag them.
How did everyone fair? Pretty decent considering this is just some random crew I just joined
@slender shoal i was asking you.
I’m on the greatest most awesomest coolest funester club, RRDT.
Hutch mentioned that we should keep our eyes peeled for Christmas gifts. Did they mean Christmas sales promotions?
The 12 days of Christmas starts next week, so that should be gifts I assume. I don’t remember if they told us about specific sales though. I’d hope they put gold, keys, and cars at sale prices for the holidays though.
Thx. It was this afternoon's gold offer that prompted my question
Now we just need gold keys to go on sale, 90% off 😁😂.
I back you on this my bro 🤣
@fluid hornet why are you asking this Twitch question in a Rebel Racing Discord forum?
you can‘t
if someone has taken the name you wanted then you can‘t do anything against it
This is soooo Annoying
It’s getting annoying to click through the gold offer every time I go to the game…

