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verbal knoll
wanton sorrel
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ngl this feels very slow

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but that's good speed for a maxed 1* Tier F car

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(which might never exist)

sharp oxide
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Hello

restive moon
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Hi

verbal knoll
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@hidden adder patch notes for update on 13th? Coming Today

solar vessel
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@hidden adder thank you very much on the answers on main concern of players that you post in #🎮│game-updates ..really appreciate that effort..at least question to mostly ask, is being post in channel where everbody easy to search of it..it easier for player to help other player just by refer them to that channel..hope this method will be continuously being use..thanks again..👍

hidden adder
wet geyser
slender shoal
hidden adder
# wet geyser Thank you for your message - for reviewing ladder double fusion (hopefully that ...

Yeah Round 3 in planned to start on Tuesday 18th Jan, so it's really not that far away.

Some ideas were discussed in the meeting for how we can make the 2nd Fusion More rewarding/beneficial if a Ladder has it, but also how better to order the rewards if there's only 1 Fusion. And I really liked the sounds of the ideas discussed - but real planning and designing will happen in the new year, so I'll be able to share more info then.

slim lily
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Making the second fusion more rewarding? Please don't.

hidden adder
slim lily
wet geyser
# hidden adder Yeah Round 3 in planned to start on Tuesday 18th Jan, so it's really not that fa...

Thank you. I don’t think it will be possible to increase rewards in the last few rungs to justify a second fusion in Tier S and GT with the current levels of fusion fodder required. The simplest (and I think best) solution is just to remove the need for the 2nd fusion. Give the fusion credits; as you do, and then racers can decide whether to fuse now or later. No need to try to force us or over complicate it.

wet geyser
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2nd fusion in S and GT is extremely expensive because of the fodder now required. It therefore should be a rare event (reserved for favourite cars), not forced on us.

slim lily
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You want to make the second fusion more rewarding when we can't even do it. How is that solution?

wet geyser
hidden adder
# wet geyser Thank you. I don’t think it will be possible to increase rewards in the last few...

Actually, the idea was to have the Round 2 event of the H2H the following week with bigger prizes, not just stuffing more in the Ladder. Then it would be a "Completionist" event for those that want to Fuse a second time after the Ladder ends (2nd Fusion Credits at the last rung of the ladder) and then there's an entry requirement of a star rating req. for this special Round 2 with bigger prizes.

As I said though - this was discussed as a "what if..." sort of idea around it and isn't decided on.

wet geyser
hidden adder
hidden adder
slim lily
wet geyser
hidden adder
wet geyser
slim lily
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You know what, I will take it as long as you don't reduce the rewards further in the ladder. If I still get 100GK from the ladder then I am fine with it.

wet geyser
hidden adder
verbal knoll
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This is all very confusing to me lol

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Just tell me is 2nd fusion removed now ? 😆

hidden adder
slim lily
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It's the first ladder I am not gonna compete. 😐

slender shoal
# hidden adder *< moves all gold keys immediately > *

Any chance you will consider adding a few gold keys back to the repeating events?
I honestly think we can save the game by making evergreen playable and enjoyable.
Add a few gold keys, raise the entry fee if needed, add some club points, make them shootouts.
Game saved 👍🎉.

slim lily
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The tier a daily with 10Gk was one of the best thing to happen and then it disappeared.

wet geyser
slim lily
oak bane
slim lily
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Are you here @elder basin

hidden adder
verbal knoll
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He is confused with her status message

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I told him its been there for ages and she just forgot to take it off 🙂

hidden adder
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Ahhh gotcha. Yes, I'll let her know!

verbal knoll
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Where can you see the scoreboard for the RR event? Held by Katie 🤷‍♂️

void swallow
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(γκανγκλι γκανγκλι) θελω car coupe και την δικιά μου δίπλα μου

wanton sorrel
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Just buy one from the car dealership.

brave junco
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Is this game fun I’m thinking of playing it is it also Grindy and p2w like asphalt 9

slender shoal
wraith leaf
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Anybody know why I’m seeing people w/the 2020 Porsche 992 turbo in their garage? There’s no way I missed that event

dusty egret
rustic needle
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@steep halo any reward for best individual score , this is beneficit for any member who are doing well but the club not .
Club prize okay
Individual racer prize should be
Like in any type of event
F1 constructor ( team)
Racer pilot individual

peak coral
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I need to wait for upgrading stage 3 in my a class car •_•

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So if i do stage 2 upgrade on s class car,i need to wait xd

cunning wren
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How can I show a picture of my garage without the perms to be able to send pictures?

naive turtle
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Anyone have any idea what the max pp is of the m4 custom?

strange pasture
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best way to spend my silver keys?

rotund valley
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👋

radiant vector
strange pasture
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save for what?

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will there be crates in the shop that cost silver keys that give a guaranteed custom car? not talking about the default 100 silver keys one

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i’m new so i don’t know

radiant vector
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We don't know there was only once a car crate for silver crates but none after that.

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You can also go for the Silver Booster crates but they don't give any car and also they're 100 Silver keys now so don't buy them either...

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You can go for Boosters if you're lacking golds and have enough Silver keys else you can go for the Silver crates to get some fodder or even a new car that you don't have 😉 @strange pasture

verbal knoll
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Wasn't this 15g ? Or i m mistaken 🤷‍♂️

wet geyser
verbal knoll
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Oh well i think it's still cheaper 🤔

blissful flicker
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Happy Christmas from Hutch 😂

verbal knoll
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I regularly purchase parts from shop i think I should get a loyalty discount card 😆😆

strange pasture
warped ocean
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Hi

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Any one her?!!!

strange pasture
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how to earn cash fast for a beginner that is trying to complete tier S

hidden adder
slender shoal
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S3 are 25 from the upgrade screen, and 20 from the shop, that’s how it’s been for a long time now.

pure hinge
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With constant encouragement and cheering from Hutch, even being penniless I can finally look forward to the next Rebel Pass 😂

wraith leaf
steep halo
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@hidden adder So what's Hutch's calculation on value of this Resource Rush? 480 gc entry seems entirely too high.

solar yokeBOT
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@steep halo has been muted for: 98 weeks, 1 day, 10 hours, and 18 minutes
Reason: spam links

verbal knoll
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I am curious to find out what calculations the team offer - i am pretty confident the cash 18k equates to 180 gold in the evaluation... when the entry fee is determined

slender shoal
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18k cash is worth exactly 1 gold in the game, I’m not joking that’s the actual value lol.

steep halo
verbal knoll
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I am not sure but I think I asked the question once in CS ticket and they explained to me briefly how its calculated and I tried to used same which explains the entry fee to me personally but I do look forward to Katie's response to cross check. It will be a nice read.

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in shop £2.49 = 30k cash , £2.49 = 300 gold so based on that 18k cash = 180 gold ( I would like to see if Hutch uses same calculations to determine the entry fee)

steep halo
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Things took a DRASTIC change for the worse when a certain someone came on board with Hutch. A certain someone who won't come on here anymore to engage us.

slender shoal
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I would think that very few players do resource ladders or the new rush. Don’t they talk about percentage engagement in each event? Why choose to keep offering resource events that are guaranteed losers for players? My only guess is the players who enter are the same players who buy cash from the shop, they don’t understand the game at all and just throw money away. In other words, just like cash in the shop, resource events are there to take advantage of uniformed players.

wet geyser
# verbal knoll I am not sure but I think I asked the question once in CS ticket and they explai...

That makes no sense to equate cash with gold via their shop prices because cash can be accumulated by racing whereas gold cannot. If all races offered gold or cash (choice or 50:50 chance) then yes, but that’s not the case so that calculation is wrong. If Hutch really thought the resource run was good value, they would advertise it and explain why. The fact that hasn’t happened tells us something.

wet geyser
solar yokeBOT
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Success, warned: jontebula#3652. Total warnings: 1

slender shoal
verbal knoll
wet geyser
bronze pebble
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Have Hutch thought about making the RR pass prize car and the car for the top 20 teams the cars that will be required for the next season rather than adding some pointless races after the season so that people can use their prize cars?

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It also gives everyone a heads up of the next season

radiant vector
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Would be unfair for the teams below #20.

bronze pebble
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Or a challenge to get in the top 20 as well as completing the RR pass

radiant vector
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And that'll give us a free gold crate on completion... Seems good lol

sturdy sage
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its lousy that Hutch is filling the game with bad events like 'Resource Runs', they are a waste of hard-earned Gold! why is Hutch trying to fleece people? Don't they make enough money? Also, where did the reasonably priced H2H go for Tier S, A & B? Hutch wants to drain pockets and thinks people are stupid.

cobalt spoke
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Hii

hidden adder
cobalt spoke
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I'm new to this sever

hidden adder
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This is just my idea on that topic - not what is going to happen 😄

hidden adder
rustic needle
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@hidden adder what is the best individual current score CP. I want to get a challenge right now .
Can you check on your system

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Not club , but individual

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I want to the Shumi or the Loeb of this game

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@hidden adder it will be only as information, and Also you should reward the individual racer not only the club

wintry nest
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Do we know the resource drop rates for when you are racing in an H2H?

slender shoal
oak bane
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@rustic needle from what I understand from the inner circle, the top player in Snipers is currently at around 19 million cp.

slender shoal
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Oh well, I guess I can’t compete, I only have 17 million points.

wintry nest
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I’ve done 14 races in the Nissan h2h so far and gotten zero resources. Also losing 1500 cash for each gas compared to S Easy Money. By the time it’s done I’ll have used about 25 gas, which means missing out on $37,500 cash and - if trend continues - five resources, whose average value I believe calculated to about 32 gold each.

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If I’m lucky I’ll stay in the 20-39 bracket - I don’t see breaking into the top 19 without coining.

So for 300 gold + 160 gold in lost resources + $37500 I will get:

  • 31 silver keys (worth less than 30 fodder points)
  • 36 resource keys (worth about 46 gold at face resource value, but randomness devalues this)
  • 80,441 club points (cool)
  • 240 gold
  • $40,215 cash

Basically I’ll end up having paid 197 gold for $2700 cash + 30 fodder + 80k CP. (edited & revised below)

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Not a super good return on investment really

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OH- I forgot that the silver keys would get me 31% of a gold prize and 31% of a few resources too. Depending on whether I buy the silver booster or silver crate, that could improve the prognosis.

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Depending on booster or crate, silver keys return about 40-55 gold. 31% of that is 12-17 gold.
Silver crate gives no resources, but booster gives 85 gold in random resources (whose value is complicated to estimate but I’ll just cut it by 50% cuz I either need them or don’t) and 31% of 50% of 85 is 13 gold

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That means I’ll end up having paid about 167 gold for $2700 cash + 30 fodder (if silver crate) + 80k CP.
I cut a lot of corners to calculate that, and omitted augments because they are even harder to value than resources (either you need them or you don’t) but I dunno, it still seems a little unbalanced.

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Maybe @hidden adder can show this to @elder basin or whoever does the balancing of game economics as a sample calculation of why players might feel the game is so unbalanced right now

slender shoal
# wintry nest If I’m lucky I’ll stay in the 20-39 bracket - I don’t see breaking into the top ...

Yes. Coming in 20th in h2h is a huge loss, so much so that repeatedly coming in 20th in h2h’s will force a player to quit the game. Big loss of cash, resources, gold, and zero gold keys rewarded. We have told Hutch about this for months, they don’t care about us non coiners. Either pay more than $100 or they don’t care if you play or not.

There are players paying many hundreds a month to play this game, and some over one thousand dollars every month. Those of us spending under fifty a month just don’t matter.

This is how the game works:

Coiner clubs full of coiner players compete against a few other coiner clubs full of coiner players. The rest of us are just spectators.

wintry nest
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Even if I was to coin 300 for another 10 tickets and was lucky enough to break into top 19, I’d be forgoing two more regular resource drops at ~32 gold each and another 15000 cash lost from not using gas on S Easy Money.

So essentially I’d lose ~ 360 gold + $15000 cash, and gain from the next prize bracket:

  • 31 gold keys
  • 5 additional silver keys
  • 6 additional resource keys
  • about 13000 additional Club Points
  • 41 additional gold coins
  • about 6700 additional cash

So if I buy another 10 tickets AND get lucky enough to break into the top 19,
I’m paying about 320 gold + $8300 cash for 31 gold keys and 13,000 Club Points.

Now THAT is a lousy deal! It’s cheaper to buy gold keys with real life cash!

And even if I pony up, I still might not crack that top 19 bracket, and I have no gold keys to show for it!

wooden girder
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Hit the nail on the head there... that's apparently what hutch has been striving to get players to realize

slender shoal
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Correct, coiners virtually always lose money, they can buy the rewards cheaper than buying tickets. They don’t care about rewards or value, they are paying to win in a p2w game. There’s nothing wrong with that, the real problem is Hutch decided to completely ruin the rewards for 20th place. As if giving me a few gold keys for 20th would suddenly cause every coiner to stop spending. We can have a game for those who buy tickets and for those who don’t. We can only hope Hutch realizes that fact before they kick us to the curb.

verbal knoll
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I also feel they should draw a line between f2p & p2p atleast then players know how far they can stretch and start to plan their gameplay. As of now its just the uncertainty which gets most of the players both f2p & p2p. The sooner they set those parameters the better it is imo.

slender shoal
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The only thing Hutch needs to do to allow low spending or f2p to continue is add a small number of additional rewards to 20th place in h2h and evergreen events. Put a reasonably small number of gold keys in 20th place, and in the evergreen events after making them shootouts.

Ticket buyers can do whatever they want, and allow non ticket buyers to at least participate. By eliminating 100% of gold key availability to non coiners means they have to quit. Who’s going to play when you won’t get new cars? No new cars means no club points and no interesting events.

So my question is, why force the majority of players to quit for no reason? Getting us non coiners to quit won’t make coiners spend more. On the contrary, they will end up spending less when there is less competition everywhere eventually.

stiff spoke
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Hello @everyone

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Hi

strange pasture
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hello there

rain ridge
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Hello

spare heath
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Who llaying

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Playing

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Lspd

wintry nest
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Yep 26 races in that Nissan H2H and not a single resource drop

radiant vector
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I got a lot of resources from the Titan h2h. @wintry nest

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2 S6 too.

wintry nest
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Huh, I got not one

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Wish the drop rates were published like for other races

radiant vector
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Others were mostly Stage 4 and 2.

verbal knoll
steep halo
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!update

verbal knoll
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Due on 13th - Monday

hidden adder
verbal knoll
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Top 10 individual scores or club scores ? 🤷‍♂️

hidden adder
verbal knoll
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Porsche's (h2h prize car) ladder/h2h events will be during one week gap between season or in the following season?

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@hidden adder are you in mood to setup gk competition? With 10 winners atleast 🙂

hidden adder
verbal knoll
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Oh ok 🙂 sorry didn't realise that 🙂
Happy Holidays and hope you have a wonderful Xmas 🎄 & New Year with your loved 🥰 ones . See ya next year 🙂

clear salmon
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Can you explain to me why after 6 runs I only have 78pts ?! SCG H2H, I received 5 to 21 points once, 78/6 = 13pts per ride, while almost all other players have 150 / 200pts ... another bug?! 🤬

radiant vector
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@clear salmon Your ghost might have lost some races while you were gone. Did you check the race history?

clear salmon
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H2h has just started, it's the 6 initial races, my opponents' points are very low, such a thing has never happened, I've been playing for almost a year

radiant vector
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So your opponents bid only 5 points to you? Then you might be faster than them so they give you less points... And they might get 30 pointers as their opponents so they have high points... It's the same issue I'm facing right now lol

clear salmon
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but the first 5 races you have no time, the opponents choose the game, and all between 5 and 21 points maximum, the sixth race where I had set the time, gave me an opponent of only 16pts…!

verbal knoll
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It is best to wait for sometime before doing your first round

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@hidden adder I understand you may not have the required information yet for Porsche event, but appreciate if you could ask the team once more please before you sign out today. Thank you

slim lily
clear salmon
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While others I talk to have normal scores, go up 26 points and do the same times as me

verbal knoll
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In that case it's best to contact CS with some screenshots

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They can look into your account and see what could be causing this

sterile vector
wanton sorrel
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I like how the first image there is editet

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and the second one too

hidden adder
rustic needle
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@hidden adder dear Katie can you fix the 5 points

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Please

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Event trophie C, again the same problem

wanton sorrel
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Also that app icon

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🤔

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don‘t tell me background of it is reused from Top Drivers

hidden adder
rustic needle
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@hidden adder @chrome lynx
Why you increase from 400 gold's to 480 gold's the tiers A ressources .
Please tell us why !!
This is really something not honest at all

slender shoal
rustic needle
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Yes and also 5 tickets now

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This is ridiculous for those who don't know

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And it's mentioned ''' Tiers A ressources '' Rush''
Please all racers don't Rush
It's a worst event ever

slender shoal
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Every resource ladder or rush or whatever name they give it is a guaranteed loss to the player. No one, under any circumstances, should enter them. It’s much cheaper to buy the resources you need.

rustic needle
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@chrome lynx are you living in the same world !!!!

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This is purely an hold up

slender shoal
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Ian doesn’t work on the game anymore. I wish he did, but that ship has sailed.

rustic needle
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This is showing us , the fake honesty of the game developer.

rustic needle
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@steep halo your need to read above

wanton sorrel
solar yokeBOT
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Success, warned: Kawasaki#2972. Total warnings: 1

wanton sorrel
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it looks like a big town

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either east or west

radiant vector
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I think you're just overthinking @wanton sorrel lol it's just a plain road.

wanton sorrel
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you're focuisng too much on the road

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I need a better view of that app icon

radiant vector
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Which pic you talking about?

wanton sorrel
radiant vector
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A night time city track? 🤔

wanton sorrel
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oof zooming in doesn't help

radiant vector
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Lol, they won't give a new map this soon.

wanton sorrel
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nah

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it might belong to the next big update

radiant vector
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When is that?

wanton sorrel
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like last time where we had images of the racetrack during offroad season

stiff spoke
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Hello @everyone

verbal knoll
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Hi 👋 @ everyone doesn't work here

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Welcome to RR official server 🙂

sturdy sage
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Hello Racers! I have a question, does anyone currently have both a Tier B '74 Porsche 911 AND the Tier B 2018 BMW M-2 Competition? After stage 4 they both have 390 PP but I'd like to compare the exact specs if anyone can post both vehicle specs.

sturdy sage
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Don't everyone answer at once...

slender shoal
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I think players here have said repeatedly that pp and stats are not accurately reflective of speed. I’m guessing you are trying to figure out which is faster. My best answer is don’t bother with either and max the Ruf, if you don’t have or want the Ruf then it’s the the Ford GT.

sturdy sage
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if PP is not accurately reflective of a vehicle's speed/ performance then why would Hutch provide the data? I'd rather make decisions on objective data than somebody's recommendation. Also, I just want to see the post of these 2 cars to see the stats side-by-side.

slender shoal
# sturdy sage if PP is not accurately reflective of a vehicle's speed/ performance then why wo...

Lol, they do lots of things that don’t make sense. They often copy and paste stats from car to car even those those two cars have different in game results. I have almost all the cars in the game. I have spent hours testing them head to head, as have many others here. We don’t “think” we know which cars are faster, we know it for a fact. I intentionally ignore pp and stats because they are quite literally irrelevant, only the track times matter.

sturdy sage
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then why not post your '74 911 then? why try to convince me instead of providing the info I asked for? that's not really helpful to me, just sayin'

lilac sand
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I received my prize in the mail today from rebel racing, but I think they sent the wrong hat

oak bane
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@sturdy sage M2 with all S5 resources on & 4 star is 409pp, - The porsche with the same is 410pp.

slender shoal
sturdy sage
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thank you AlCanDo! So the Porsche is just slightly better by the numbers! I have my M-2 and I'm trying to decide if I want to merge it or wait to get a 911, I think I'll wait, but I AIN"T buying a RUF at 387PP (Stage4) despite people telling me it's 'better' than the M-2 or Porsche.

lilac sand
sturdy sage
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thanks as well Zod for the post

oak bane
sturdy sage
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Yep! I just gotta wait out getting the 911...

paper wasp
oak bane
wet geyser
steep halo
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The Ruff at S4 is 390 like the Porshe and the M2. The Ruff is faster than the Porshe. The Porshe is faster than the M2. Like Zod said PP and the stats are not gospel but what do us veteran players know.

slender shoal
steep halo
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The Ruf, Mini, Porsche, and Ford GT all max out at 415. I trade wins and losses in my GT against Ruf drivers. My GT pounds on Porshes and Mini's.

lost beacon
wanton sorrel
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comparing both looks sad on this side

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😃

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a maxed 22B is worser than a maxed 22B

slender shoal
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Cars worth fusing:
Custom Camaro, BRZ is good if you don’t have the Custom.
Custom Subaru, or Focus
Ruf or Ford GT
Carrera, but I’ve heard the A mini is fast too

wanton sorrel
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the JCW Custom is next seaons prize car

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and I want it

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🤔

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I know what would be interesting

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you get a car that is the same Tier as the boss cars original car and also kinda handles like it

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then you upgrade lt until you have similar stats as it's maxed full star stats

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and then use it on test drive and compare

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for example 4* maxed 22B compared with a simlar driving 4* car with similar stats

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🤔

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difference there is that the car similar to the 22B is one Tier higher up like Ernestos 22B

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then you could kinda see how fast it would be if it had it's true stats

paper wasp
pliant tangle
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hi?

dusty eagle
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How can i get it now?

solar vessel
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👆 @sturdy sage ..direct info from hutch spoke person in support..for your info about how they see PP in developer perspective..thanks..hope this clarify things for you..

eternal mango
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@sturdy sage you will not outrun an equally drive Ruf

verbal knoll
# dusty eagle

Contact CS from in game and they can check why can't you buy it and why the price is not showing up

solar vessel
verbal knoll
rustic needle
# solar vessel

How the reply is going to fuel ticket instaed to say that ' you, players need to fuse the car because you need to spend for our Christmas and year bonus '

opaque ridge
slender shoal
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I’m not sure why anyone would pay $10 for the 1600 now. You have already missed all the events for it and it’s not a good car.

strange pasture
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hey guys can i ask if the C class Mitsubishi Evolution is a good car to max?

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i’m planning to max it out and use it to race in the C cup races

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I’m pretty sure the mitsubishi isn’t the best C class car but do you think it can keep up with the best C class car?

slender shoal
radiant vector
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@opaque ridge You can buy the D tier Mini in the upcoming season... 1.99$ only... Plus will unlock the Italy region... Dunno if you have it already or not.

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And there will be a crate for JCW too...

strange pasture
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but i am f2p and don’t intend to spend a dime

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i got the c class mitsubishi from the crates

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i was just wondering if it can even keep up with some of the fastest c class cars

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if i want to finish at least top 5

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in the C cup

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i do have good driving skills

radiant vector
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@strange pasture You can get the C tier Ford Focus... It's good.

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And it's a cash car.

strange pasture
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but i like gangster looking car like the mitsubishi

radiant vector
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😅

strange pasture
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i intend to make the mitsubishi blacked out with black rims like a mafia car

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that will make people scared when they race my car in the c cup

radiant vector
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Oh, well, Mitsubishi ain't that good tbh...

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Focus is the best since it's f2p and also drives well... But it's your call.

strange pasture
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but is the mitsubishi the next best after the focus?

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or what’s after the focus?

opaque ridge
radiant vector
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Great 👍

radiant vector
oak bane
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@strange pasture "I’m pretty sure the mitsubishi isn’t the best C class car but do you think it can keep up with the best C class car?" - Do you want to re-read what you've written there? 😏

The focus is your best bet in C tier as a free car. But the subaru custom is coming up in the next rebel pass over xmas, which is the fastest if it has all the augs on it.

novel falcon
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LOL

steep halo
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Hi am new here so I don't know what to do now

wanton sorrel
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just like every other person coming in here

eternal mango
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Hutch needs to fix their sh1t or im out. $1 per race is the ticket cost, for 11 points? Everyone is maxing out their cars and then drag on the walls to keep the time slow? You are literally at a huge disadvantage if you drive fast. Its absolutely 100 ridiculous! And we (me included) keep following the pied piper.

eternal mango
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@oak bane Mitsubishi cant touch the gt. Imo

verbal knoll
steep halo
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Ok

torpid hemlock
wet geyser
eternal mango
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Im done maxing out cars until slow rolling is addressed. And to be clear, im slow rolling too, but i feel i have no choice .

wet geyser
verbal knoll
slender shoal
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Why not just do away with the completely broken h2h system and replace it? Just have h2h be based on fastest times. Maybe get some points for each race, so buying tickets is still a thing, but you get more points from going faster than everyone else.

wet geyser
subtle grotto
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Hola

slender shoal
wet geyser
verbal knoll
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The easiest thing is to debug & fix the current h2h algorithm - don't see any point to complicate the game more then it already is lol

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WTT alongside h2h is a good option and will be a nice addition / new game mode as suggested already.

wet geyser
slender shoal
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The current h2h causes players to quit, it’s the number one reason new players delete the game. They race hard all day, wake up the next day at zero points. The current system, even if debugged, radically favors sandbagging. The current system also favors targeting and destroying other players out of childish revenge ego trips.

There is nothing good or positive about the current h2h system. Why do you think every other racing game has 100 times the active players of this game?

Imo anyone arguing to keep the current h2h system is saying so because they exploit its shortcomings for their own personal benefit. They are not considering what would be best for the game overall.

verbal knoll
# wet geyser That needs to be done too/first - fix the current points problem. But Hutch shou...

I agree and yes there are loop holes that needs addressing- but realistically speaking like you said there is no perfect solution due to so many variables involved - pp, stars, upgrades, augment etc ... I have come up with a potential solution/ idea (it's still work in progress) which I will share with Hutch to see if that's something they might /can incorporate to discourage /minimise sandbagging 👍👍

Although like upgrading the cars , racing fast is one's choice similarly choosing not to upgrade/max cars and race slow is other's choice and we are no one to question it - in general we need to stop worrying about what others do it's their money their choice.

Our focus should be on Hutch to improve the game quality not consistently discuss other racer's choices and how they should race or why they spend etc.

radiant vector
eternal mango
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@slender shoal AND i would love to see the formula used to take all club points away from lower tier h2h events. It was the only thing keeping some type of balance & interest for the majority of players.

slender shoal
radiant vector
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The first guy in my bracket atm had like 28 sec slower time than mine... This whole h2h is a big mess... That's the reason I left playing h2h just after a month of starting this game... Only resumed bcuz of prize cars and clubs...

radiant vector
slender shoal
# radiant vector The best time in the bracket gets the most points if other player's time is near...

Let me try to explain again, you keep thinking I’m saying modify the current system, I’m not. The current system is broken beyond repair. I could write pages and pages of why the current system is beyond hope of repair.

We need a new h2h, leaderboard is your combined times of the 5 tracks. Fastest times get the highest places on the leaderboard. That’s the easy part, the more difficult part is coming up with a reasonable point system where you get points for using your tickets to try to improve your times. That way ticket buying still exists, you can still buy the top spots as we do now, Hutch needs that.

radiant vector
sonic arch
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@slender shoal "The current system also favors targeting and destroying other players out of childish revenge ego trips."

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This is especially true by doing this to players who use the word "bro" way too much!

slender shoal
# radiant vector 'Where you get points for using your tickets to try to improve your times' I don...

It’s easy to set up a leaderboard just based on best times. Lowest time of combined 5 tracks wins, and goes in order from there. However, that doesn’t give players an incentive to use more tickets or buy tickets, which Hutch wants.

So I’m thinking, and also hoping anyone else here can come up with ideas too, that they create an incentive system for using your tickets . So it depends if we stick with time or points. If we just have time then using your tickets to try to get better times can give you a fraction of a second bonus. Therefore using all your tickets, ad tickets, and buying tickets helps. Or we can base everything on points, but you have to design a system for that.

radiant vector
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Tbh I find no such system which could favour both sides... As Ian once said there are toi many variables to deal with in RR... And no matter what Sandbagging can never be stopped unless someone comes with a high tech algo...

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There are some effective systems but then they want 💰 too...

slender shoal
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If you put the position on the leaderboard based on your time, then sandbagging is permanently and forever removed. It’s impossible to game a system based on time. Fastest times win, period. I really don’t understand why players here think sandbagging is so great in a racing game. One simple change, it’s gone forever.

radiant vector
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Well, then people with highest pp car wins the event easily... Told ya there's no system to favour both sides.

solar yokeBOT
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@idle cloak has been muted for: 9 weeks, 5 days, 17 hours, and 48 minutes
Reason: spam links

radiant vector
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I suggested very good system about an year ago but you know it's 💰 that should matter for devs so ofc it didn't work.

verbal knoll
radiant vector
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At present I think they should look forward to fixing the matchmaking for both normal as well as T&L tracks.

radiant vector
verbal knoll
radiant vector
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You already know since when they are working on the chat feature...

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And dunno if they can have two algo for normal and T&L tracks?

verbal knoll
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We seen what happened with introducing T&L that says it all lol 😂

shadow flower
radiant vector
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Would be better to have some mini old/unused cars seasons in between manufacturer seasons so that they get time to work on bugs... I've suggested it to Katie tho.

verbal knoll
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I miss on road club seasons 😦

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Short simple and sweet 🙂

radiant vector
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@verbal knoll Titan was fun tho...

shadow flower
verbal knoll
radiant vector
slender shoal
# radiant vector I forgot tilt lol... Yeah that too is a thing now.

Tilt and pp are easily solved, but never mind. Neither the players nor developers of this game appear to have any interest in saving it. I’ll just sit back and watch it die while enjoying the ridiculousness of people throwing away hundreds of dollars a month on it lol.

radiant vector
verbal knoll
radiant vector
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And the main thing is having all the cars fused maxed lol some season to relax lol

radiant vector
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Wish DeLorean wasn't that expensive lol I wanted it for the D tier collection.

verbal knoll
radiant vector
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Yeah suits your name... Slow. @verbal knoll

eternal mango
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I get the fact hutch's job us to make money AND im not complaining about spending, i grew up dumping quarters into defender, asteroids, etc. But this doesn't make sense.
1- most savvy players have recognized the cars dont need maxed out, ive stopped spending on them. 2- ive spent alot in the past on rematches when we were racing at full speed, ive not paid for a rematch in 2 months. 3- by taking away club points for lower tier h2h, they had to lose alot of their revenue base & the more experienced players are learning how not to spend. 4- if your not on discord hiw would you EVER know that the top 10 players are sandbaging ( including me) & thats why you never EVER get to race them, because they are slow rolling & your racing. 5- lastly im not sure how to think of this game right now other than dishonest to half the players.

scenic folio
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Hutch is not going to fix the H2H algorithm. They don’t have the mathematical smarts to do so, and the software architecture decisions have their hands tied with no other options. Most importantly, Hutch doesn’t even care.

slim lily
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The algorithm was messed up so barely anyone got a refill. 😄

verbal knoll
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How many refills? 😂😂

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It's ok you can tell me in DM if not here i know not many like to admit publicly 😂😂

slim lily
verbal knoll
slender shoal
slim lily
slender shoal
slim lily
slender shoal
slender shoal
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Does anyone remember what we used to get in a D car ladder? This seems low for the price of the car but I honestly don’t remember what’s normal for a D car…

slender shoal
tall mason
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Hello Everest

peak coral
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Is this plate given to me by joining pacific coast cruiser?

steep halo
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this games ass it’s a whole copy

tiny tide
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@slim lily Congratz!

tiny tide
tiny tide
wanton sorrel
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I rather sit in the ZR1 Custom next week

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so I can get used to it and finally can grab Ava's Chiron for my garage

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luckily Chevrolet is one of the brands where you can easily get augments for

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right below Ford

wet geyser
steep halo
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hello

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if I uninstall the game, will my progresses be lost?

wanton sorrel
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depends on if you saved your progress

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I think you have to do that over Facebook

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and for some extra safety I would save the played ID somewhere

mint juniper
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Hi guys

molten harbor
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This game is pay to win?

wanton sorrel
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depending on the situation you're in

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one part of the game is fully playable

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two only half

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another one came very new and the only option to access that place is through time limited events where you get the cars that can be used for that location

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looking at the events itself

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you can say it's p2w if you're unlucky

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btw tomorrow is the complain day for an overpriced item in this game

clever violet
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Can play together

verbal knoll
wanton sorrel
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and it should stay as "no"

clever violet
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Oh cant play multiplayer

wanton sorrel
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you can drive against ghosts from others in events but that's it

tiny tide
#

So what are the next cars we gonna get? Someone in here mentioned a Lambo last week or so. rr_lambourghini

strange pasture
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is it possible to win the boss car without the special nitros?

slender shoal
strange pasture
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I like to make my progress as slow as possible, I will get the boss car then.

slender shoal
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If you want to do that, Samsung is the expert on it.

strange pasture
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I use Apple

tiny tide
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🤣

slender shoal
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Lol, sorry @wanton sorrel is the expert, he actually is doing it, slowed down his progress to get the boss cars.

wanton sorrel
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Tier D and A are the races where I gurantee you to get super nitro

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you need fully maxed out cars and extreme good skill (and rng because of the unnesecary auto-brake issue)

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the other three also need fully maxed out cars but less skill

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I prefer cars from Ford

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they have the best chances for augments and fusion credits

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13% I think

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I only paid 6€ for Tier D and A super nitro together

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Tier C was completed in a JCW and B in a 911 Turbo

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I'll complete S in the ZR1 Custom (finally)

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I prefer the Focus RS for C and the GT for B and S

radiant vector
#

@simple ice Pls post it only in the #🎥│player-videos 🙂 , we made that separate channel for that very purpose. Thank you.

simple ice
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Yes sorry was a fault be pasting the link 😂

proper pine
#

Hey

remote galleon
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Somwone can help me pliss ?

proper pine
#

With wa

cunning stone
#

So how long does it take customer service usually to get back with you?

dusty egret
cunning stone
#

Great I bought a vets pro bundle deal and it charged me but didn't credit so wait it is I guess

stuck aurora
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😋

peak coral
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Ooooh,very pricyy...

stuck aurora
#

1-9th position it hard to compete with coiner.Maybe HUTCH can extend big reward to 1-19th for patients skill racer. 😋

strange pasture
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@wanton sorrel but you only have 1 attempt so you would have to be very sure you will win right?

peak coral
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mweheheh

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The blurring is kinda hard

slender shoal
dull copper
#

@muted girder Hey man, I tried to send you Dm but it just won't let me, sorry for resorting to tagging you here

muted girder
dull copper
raw gyro
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Mega balls

compact tree
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Ayooo

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Is this game any good

wanton sorrel
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Why don‘t you just try it yourself?

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How else did you get here then?

flat lark
strange pasture
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guys

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if i need parts for an upgrade for my car

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should i buy it with gold?

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or keep grinding races?

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i need parts for my tier S ford GT

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i been racing over 100 races and i aint finding a nickel at all

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so what do i do? do i spend over 300 gold and buy the parts?

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or what

lean crystal
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Hello

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Guys

neat estuary
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Henlo

light anchor
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hello my fren

solar vessel
gaunt rapids
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hello

wanton sorrel
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||If you read this then it is already too late to tell that you didn't read this. 😃||

gaunt rapids
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hello my name is supra

wanton sorrel
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I hope a stock and not annoying one

high haven
#

Wawaweewa, that A Resource Rush is best deal…… Not! It’s not very niiiiiice Hutch.

wanton sorrel
#

They can't hear you. It's sunday evening.

steep halo
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Quick go flush $7.99 down the toilet for this 💩.

wanton sorrel
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Most... boring... event... ever!

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Comic Seller Guy: You‘ll hear from my lawyer.

blissful flicker
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£6.99 for a car that will be used for 3 (probably broken) events and then sit in the garage for ever …. That’s a hard no from me. If it were 99p I may have gone for it.

slender shoal
#

I can’t believe players chose to get the Porsche BMW crate. But I guess I should have known a free crate would have worthless contents. I would have rather just received 50 gold then everything in the crate.

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Hmm, the prize colors are a bit…

ancient lodge
#

Hello

sturdy sage
#

I haven't seen a DeLorean before! Is it a cash only car or can it be gotten in a crate?

violet osprey
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It’s a different shaped car going around the same six tracks we’ve had for 2 years for less gold and less keys.

naive turtle
slender shoal
verbal knoll
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Anyone got the Delorean ? How does it handle? 🙂

rugged plume
#

E

wintry nest
# verbal knoll Anyone got the Delorean ? How does it handle? 🙂

I got it and I’m enjoying it a lot! I might not be the best judge of how something drives in this game, but I don’t notice anything super weird like how the Caterham can’t corner or the 911 feels light and slippery or the Chiron feels a bit like a yacht… it kinda feels a bit like the ford GT maybe? tight, responsive, and fast. Or it could just be how cool it looks. Though I’m a bit bummed I had to shell out gold to get something that looked a little more like the proper brushed stainless finish than the super-reflective silver foil.

I should be grinding S EZ$ for cash and resources, but I keep wanting to race it again. I wish it didn’t come at the loss of cash and resources to use it!

obtuse mesa
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Great game i really enjoy

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Helps pass a lot of time too

verbal knoll
dire garnet
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Hi

peak coral
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Any1 got the pacific coast cruiser prize yet?

verbal knoll
peak coral
#

Rip connection,stuck at 16%

dire garnet
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Oof

pure hinge
#

365 Days with #RebelRacing 😂 So pumped to harvest the daily rewards

pliant tangle
#

Ola (ง'̀-'́)ง

#

#

♥︎

slender shoal
scenic folio
pulsar salmon
#

Just completed the Tier C campaign and got the C63, should I upgrade it as is or get the M2?

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Since I have enough money for it

swift shard
#

oo

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I am about to get that car

frail cove
pulsar salmon
frail cove
strange pasture
#

is the m2 competition one of the best B class car?

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like top 3 B class car? would u guys say so?

tiny tide
#

Tier B: I have the 2017 AMG GT with 411 PP. I like it :)

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Are you buying the Mini Cooper? I remember I used to have it but did not like the racing too much. What are your thoughts?

frail cove
pulsar salmon
pulsar salmon
frail cove
# pulsar salmon Oh I see, the Ruf is available in silver crates?

Currently 1449 gold, but I got mine ages ago at a slightly better deal but it was for dedicated events. I cheated and bought the super boosts to get boss cars. If not, you need patience to get fused cars to beat bosses. My Porsche Turbo was my best before then, but do not underestimate the Mini. That costs real money tho.

wanton sorrel
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I won 4 of 5

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but it will be 5 of 5 soon

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except something unexpected happens and I lose

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I can imagine my game crash during the race and Hutch not doing anything even when I send them a time of my race which is faster than the required time to win the car

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🤔

dire garnet
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Gg

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Just got to tier B

half hornet
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Hi

finite mulch
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Let it snow

blazing forum
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Hello

wanton sorrel
pulsar salmon
wanton sorrel
#

welcome to the western part of Germany
the place where you only see snow every two years

#

once

slender shoal
# pulsar salmon But in the long term the m2 is better right?

In the long term the Ford GT is your best bet unless you spend money on the game and can afford the Ruf. The Ford is almost as good as the Ruf and you most likely will win it in time from a crate. I’d say just upgrade the B car you have just enough to win the A car.

frail cove
sturdy sage
#

I noticed in Germany when you go to Koln (in the west) the beers are small, I had just traveled from Munchen, where the beers are huge!

shut wave
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@sturdy sage In Cologne the traditional beer is called "Kölsch" and is 0.2 liters. In Munich you probably had a measure, are 1ltr. Or half, are 0.5 ltr. 😉

tiny tide
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Oh nice! I found the Koenigsegg One:1 🥳

dire garnet
#

Oof

sleek hornet
#

Omg

wanton sorrel
#

You‘re a bot.

storm imp
#

Why is the Lamborghini Veneno so unappreciated in the car community? :C

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I think it deservesore attention

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Deserves more*

wanton sorrel
#

well

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what about other car companies who get almost no attention?

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Ariel is one good example.

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First ignored but the moment you find out about the company you start to like it.

foggy flare
#

And btw. got a vinyl for the M2 but can't find it ...

peak coral
#

Finally not stuck anymore

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I also remember this was supposed to be 465 before

dire garnet
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Oof

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I love how in this game u get a free car each tier

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But one thing I don't like is when u complete the box smash daily event

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The noice it makes

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When counting ur points

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It's like a smoke alarm

dire garnet
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U will know what I mean when u do it

pulsar salmon
#

I just speedran through Tier b

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Is this car any good or are there better alternatives?

slender shoal
broken kindle
#

Yo

haughty mason
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Is any one up because I have a question

tiny tide
#

Let's hear it :)

lost beacon
#

eh, there was a time ... epic_augment_a legendary_augment_s rare_augment_b 😞

verbal knoll
#

@steep halo can you please confirm that Porsche will have a free ladder and one paid h2h just like Lotus ?

Also when these events are planned to run ? Bcz next week is M4 and Custom ZR events 🤷‍♂️

steep halo
#

Next week - Round 1 + Round 2 + Ladder.

wanton sorrel
#

that‘s after the season tho

verbal knoll
steep halo
verbal knoll
#

Also 3 x ladder and 6 x h2h in one week? Doesn't sound right 🙂

#

This means h2h will be overlapping badly 😦

lost beacon
#

a couple of bucks and everything will be ... ok

steep halo
#

You should have enough time to spread your ladder progression throughout the week. We'll do our best with the H2Hs overlap 🙂

verbal knoll
radiant vector
#

5 days left and I'm at Lvl 33 of the pass 🥲

wanton sorrel
#

you can still do it

#

:remoraid_pog:

verbal knoll
wet geyser
verbal knoll
#

With Bob gone from Hutch I wonder if we will ever get to see a balanced car in the game again 😦 #missing_Bob

ancient lodge
#

Wait we cant buy cars (which say they can be bought from money) any other way apart from real money?

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I wanted to buy Mercedes G63 but it said real money so there isn’t any other way?

wanton sorrel
#

giveaways from the content creators itself

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but no one does that tho

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but not worth getting one

#

been told the K5 Custom isn't good against the Titan

oak bane
ancient lodge
#

Oh ok

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Still thanks

quartz mountain
#

Can we use any T&L car in the final Porsche H2H? At least I do not see any requirement for specific T&L car.

clear mesa
#

Hello I just join the game

ancient lodge
#

Hello

steep halo
#

hello

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can anyone help me out for some tips here?

radiant vector
steep halo
#

ok 👍

#

i will keep here back if i dont get satified answer 😜

sterile zenith
#

Hi, Sorry I don't understand you.

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I am from Brazil.

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I wanted my suggestion to be in the game so we could play with our friends

slender shoal
blazing forum
#

hello

ancient lodge
#

Hi

solar vessel
daring tartan
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I'm almost giving up. 5 weeks trying to gain piece level 4 and nothing.

verbal knoll
#

Are you not able to complete campaign with the car ?

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I think 545 was enough when i done it years back

daring tartan
#

No da, is weak to face her. The pieces are very scarce and it discourages the game a little, I've been playing for a long time and none of the pieces are not even in stock, where you buy them with gold

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Vou tentar comprar com ouro

slender shoal
daring tartan
scenic folio
# daring tartan Yes. don't give up because the game is good, better car game, but it's complicat...

You are going to find that you have to be incredibly patient (not weeks, but months) to progress in the game. You will miss all kinds of events and new cars. As long as you maintain that discipline and keep your expectations low, you will be fine. Hutch designed this game to get you to pay, and if you start paying, you will be sorely disappointed in this game - just read the comments here going back in time. I would encourage you to maintain a disciplined F2P approach.

daring tartan
slender shoal
daring tartan
#

Achieve without even leveling

verbal knoll
# daring tartan

I can't understand the language , is it saying you need to upgrade? Or is it saying the race is difficult?

daring tartan
#

which level of easy running is best for earning A and S mods?

daring tartan
verbal knoll
#

You can win it

daring tartan
verbal knoll
daring tartan
#

Yes

verbal knoll
daring tartan
#

Yes. I need modification A and S

verbal knoll
#

You can split , do double payout in S tier & easy money in A and even mix them up 👍

daring tartan
#

OK thanks

sterile zenith
sterile zenith
daring tartan
sterile zenith
#

Pelo menos não e só eu aqui de brasileiro.

daring tartan
#

Yes

sterile zenith
#

;-;

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Caraio.

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Não tou entendendo nada aqui.

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Put a beach race, And also add the MULTIPLAYER that would help with the development of the game, if I say something wrong because I'm Brazilian.

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Ganhemo 😎

daring tartan
#

De boa. Qualquer sujestão e legal

sterile zenith
#

'-'

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Pois o que eu escrevi aí.

sterile zenith
#

@daring tartan Faz tempo que tu tá aqui?

daring tartan
#

Sim

rugged plume
#

Cya everyone

sterile zenith
#

Criei um clube para os brasileiros, todos os brasileiros podem entrar para dar uma moral para o nosso país.

pulsar salmon
#

Is this car any good?

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Just pulled it from a silver crate

slender shoal
swift shard
#

I am new to Rebel racing so I hv only 3 cars

pulsar salmon
slender shoal
# pulsar salmon Dang, what a waste of silver keys lol

I recommend locking one of every car, never know when you might need it. Then when you get duplicates you use them for fusion fodder. But it’s hard to upgrade cars now so I think players should just focus on the better ones.

narrow vortex
#

How can I play but I want to drive freely

solar vessel
narrow vortex
#

Ok

naive turtle
#

Anyone know what the max pp is for the mustang GT custom?

hoary compass
#

Xd

sonic arch
warm dock
#

Hello

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What date to next update

#

Plz update grafica

last bison
#

I need some gold plz😁

ancient lodge
last bison
#

@ancient lodge it's so hard in my country i can't get Google play card

ancient lodge
#

At least try yourself

last bison
#

@ancient lodge Well, let's see how lucky we are

ancient lodge
#

You dont need to ping for everything

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Not being rude

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Just saying

last bison
#

@ancient lodge Haha okay maybe we should focus more

ancient lodge
#

@plain laurel sorry for ping I want to talk to you in dms but I can’t cuz it says recipient isn’t accepting something like that

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So just message me

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1 sec

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Nvm

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Nvm

radiant vector
#

She's away for the holidays... @ancient lodge

ancient lodge
#

Okkk

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Sorry for ping 😅

wanton sorrel
#

wait
Clutch isn‘t mod anymore?

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did I miss anything?

ancient lodge
#

Dk

sterile zenith
#

Guys, join my club to get me the corvette, please I'm a beginner I started playing yesterday.

ancient lodge
#

Also can someone tell me how to fuse the car like the process of doing it

slender shoal
# ancient lodge Also can someone tell me how to fuse the car like the process of doing it

Fusing is a long term goal, definitely going to take a long time for a new player if they don’t spend a lot of real money. You need fusion credits, the top number to the left of your level. Currently you have 0 Ford Fusion credits, as you can see from the bottom right you need 25 for the first fuse.

Then the separate thing you need is fusion fodder, the bottom bar shows you need 100. You can use duplicate cars you have as fodder, but lock one of each car. Or you can buy cash cars to get fodder. My spreadsheet in tips and tricks shows you need $272k in game cash to get the 100 fodder you need.

Many cars are not worth fusing, your Mach 1 is a good example, it’s not worth fusing it.

sturdy sage
#

I see in the thread above the Max PP for the Custom Mustang GT ( tier A) is 505. Does anyone know the max PP for the Tier A McLaren 570 and the Corvette (bought for gold) ???

frail cove
sturdy sage
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thanks Chris! that's a big difference, the Mustang is really weak. I'm still holding out for some McLaren fusion points.

sterile zenith
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What tier am I from?

crude bramble
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This game sucks

sturdy sage
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be patient Shark, you can't build Rome in a day

crude bramble
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Yeah I know, but all that bugs all this ridiculously overpriced stuff and and. Really I regret and hate myself that I installed it

slender shoal
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Patient? He’s been playing a very long time lol.

sturdy sage
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Rebel Racing is more fun than Top Drives (also a Hutch game) and I never spend real money. I maximize what I can in-game, I've accomplished most of what I've set out to do through patience and regularly racing.

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I have been playing for nearly a year now, for reference

crude bramble
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You don’t buy the pass or once gold ?

sturdy sage
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Heck no! I NEVER use real money

crude bramble
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Are you in a club?

sturdy sage
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I own Rowdy Rabbit Racing, I created the club on the 1st day clubs came out. We are legendary!

slender shoal
# sturdy sage Heck no! I NEVER use real money

That’s a good plan. But for me, I get bored just running easy money forever. New cars and good events are fun, but you can’t do most of them without spending unfortunately. But I just get the pro pass now, so no great expense.

slender shoal
crude bramble
sturdy sage
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I've thought about that Zod, but I actually enjoy calling the shots with my own club. I have 2 really good players who are better than me.

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I am only trying to fully merge ONE car per tier, so as to save on resources, despite the offers the game presents trying to get me to go in a different direction or build up some other car I ain't focusing on.

verbal knoll
sturdy sage
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Slow and steady - I have both the Tier A McLaren 570 and the '04 Porsche Carrera, both have 494 PP after Stage 4 but looking at the speed/ nitro of the McLaren, it is higher than the Porsche. The Porsche only has slightly better handling. How can the Porsche be better?

verbal knoll
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This is an arcade game and the stats / pp values don't represent true potential of any car - but as thumb rule better handling means the car will do much better in corners- in RR majority tracks are small and with lot of bends , turns so a car with better handling will be a plus always

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But at the end of the day it is your call 🙂 players here can only suggest based on experience. Many senior racers have all 3 cars maxed out. They have tested it too.

slender shoal
# sturdy sage Slow and steady - I have both the Tier A McLaren 570 and the '04 Porsche Carrera...

Hutch themselves have said pp and stats are just general estimates and not to be taken literally. The fact remains that the Carrera will produce better times in A tier tracks than the McLaren. But I’d say the McLaren is good, one of the best in the tier, it’s just that the Carrera produces better times on these tracks. I was actually the first to post about it and no one believed me lol, the McLaren had been the go to car.

slim lily
halcyon nymph
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Bro

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Como vou ler as regras se sou brasileiro

crude bramble
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After I got finally the Carrera. It’s broken all records from the A McLaren. PP and stats doesn’t matter. Btw it’s like with the Koenigsegg everyone says it sucks well until you upgrade it with S6 resources then it’s a great with S Augs it’s an beast!

steep halo
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The Mini PP is one of the lowest in Tier A (max 510) and its a top 3 car. Perfect example that PP and stats don't mean a lot. I actually think Hutch screwed this one up badly.

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Then you have the Ruf Custom with one of the highest PP and it's a dog.

slim lily
solar vessel
sterile zenith
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I'm in the 5th boss of the 2nd thing.

sterile zenith
solar vessel
sterile zenith
solar vessel
sterile zenith
solar vessel
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so you are in tier C then..

sterile zenith
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Are there many Brazilians here?

wanton sorrel
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no

sterile zenith
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Sad

eternal mango
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@slim lily you dont like the ruff?

slim lily
slender shoal
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The custom Ruf is faster than the regular Ruf by a little, but it’s slower than several other cars in the tier.

sterile zenith
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Man, it's really annoying to wait for the fuel to load and I want to get the mercerdz soon 😔

verbal knoll
novel hamlet
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Sup everyone

tiny tide
oak bane
torpid hemlock
# oak bane have you looked at their website?

They appear to ‘Talk a good game’ on their website, but in reality it appears that very little effort has been put into the continued development and execution of this game /product. I would even go as far as to say that this game is now being left behind it’s direct competition, almost like racing in a T&L daily challenge! I’m finding now that I’m bored with this game in comparison to another leading competitors game!

frail cove
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Well at least I got another Chev D Aug out of it. Seriously!!

torpid hemlock
frail cove
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I am looking forward to getting Subaru custom finally tho

eternal hound
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Hii

frail cove
oak bane
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As expected, only top 9 winners for Porsche.

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Another event to skip.....

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@torpid hemlock I was refering to their employees (our people) and the notion that " there is serious shortage of staff"

torpid hemlock
# frail cove Maybe my next personal challenge is to get less than 44 points with 12 or more c...

It now feels with this game, that’s it’s less about the enjoyment of racing (which first attracted me to this game) and now purely about repetition of doing certain activities within it, purely to earn gold coins. Although I purchase the season pass and enter certain H2H events (other than just the daily tier D), it’s now so predictable. This game used to be some I enjoyed playing, but now just feels like I chore. The other game I’m playing is purely racing and earning new vehicles, purely as a reward to good racing and not by having g to purchase wins or vehicles.

torpid hemlock
eternal mango
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@oak bane where are you seeing that?

frail cove
verbal knoll
verbal knoll
frail cove
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Anyone see the point of the triple tier S ladder? Although no fusion is required, previously you could pick up 200 or so fusion points for each manufacturer. Perhaps should have gone straight to H2H Shootout?

verbal knoll
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I see the point and I actually like it - I can't say much bcz then Hutch will use it against us lol 😂

frail cove
verbal knoll
earnest pendant
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@hidden adder has anything been corrected or adjusted to the speed issues of the tracks and laps cars yet? Need to know before the upcoming h2h thanks.

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GT cars should be faster than tier S cars.

pulsar salmon
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Looks like I’m skipping this event as well lol

sturdy sage
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How does one obtain the Tier C Subaru Custom???

pulsar salmon
sturdy sage
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the custom Camero (Tier D) was offered on Black Friday for Gold, I was hoping there may be another such opportunity for the Custom Subaru

pulsar salmon
sturdy sage
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it was a good deal for 500G! The Custom Subaru has 3 more PP than the Ford Focus, which is otherwise the best Tier C car I could get.

plain laurel
#

Good Day @everyone

I'm Elia, Gameplay Designer on Rebel Racing. I take care of cars, physics and general balancing, and I wanted to take a moment to address some feedback we've been seeing around Tracks & Laps.

I’d like to start by saying a big thank you to everyone that’s taken part in Seasons 1 and 2 and for all the feedback received.
There has been a lot of discussion recently about Tracks and Laps (T&L) across the community. We hear what you are saying and are working to fix some of the issues most widely discussed.

The key challenges we are working on at the moment are Tier GT cars and their Speed Limits as well as the car database which houses all the data relating to the cars.
The team and I have a solution which we are currently working on and expect to be ready early next year.

I’m working on a longer and more in depth post I’d like to share with you at the beginning of January that will explain in more detail the problems faced, how they came about and what the intended fix is.

We really appreciate all of your feedback so far, and please do keep it coming.

Elia

slender shoal
slender shoal
sturdy sage
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thanks Zod but I won't spend real money. I am taking your advice tho and saving up for my Tier B RUF, I sure hope you guys are right...

slender shoal
wet geyser
wet geyser
eternal mango
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@plain laurel Thank you for letting us know. I'm hoping the issue regarding matching opponents & points earned in h2h T&L, is part of what is being worked on, its currently horribly nonsensical. Again thanks for reaching out.

plain laurel
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Hey, thanks for your questions guys, I really understand you want to know more, but for now I only can tell you to wait for my in-depth post, I'll send it in the first days of January. In the meanwhile have great holidays

sonic arch
# plain laurel Good Day @everyone I'm Elia, Gameplay Designer on Rebel Racing. I take care of ...

Clearly Hutch is aware of this issue, along with many other issues that are usually labeled "we are looking to fix this <insert issue here> in the near future".

What are the benefits as a player who is playing these flawed games? Clearly the only one benefiting here is Hutch. Is that really your business plan? "Pay a lot of real life cash to play our flawed and buggy games on the premise that something may be fixed in the future long after the events are over?"

Will there ever be an honest explanation why these flawed/buggy games are continued to be offered at premium prices? Is it Hutch's position that because the flawed/buggy games hurt all players from mega-coiners to freeloaders its OK and nothing needs to be done now?

slender shoal
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“Freeloaders” ? Um, them’s fighting words lol.

ancient lodge
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Wait mach 1 has a half steering wheel 😳

sonic arch
random pike
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Никого русского нет?

torpid hemlock
pseudo ocean
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What language is that? 🤔

craggy lintel
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ñ

gusty vortex
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Ćao ja imam 2015 McLaren 570S

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Im bosnian

tiny tide
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I like the new garage decoration. :) 🎄

steep halo
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Hai salut

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Hello

sturdy sage
sterile zenith
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Can any admin give me the "TIER B"? I have a class B car, the mercerdz AMG goods, please?

slender shoal
sterile zenith
wanton sorrel
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no

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do it yourself

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it‘s not that hard

slender shoal
sterile zenith
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Can someone sample me with if done?

wanton sorrel
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what

sterile zenith
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I am unable.

wanton sorrel
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look

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that‘s literally it

sterile zenith
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Thank @wanton sorrel .

wanton sorrel
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still don‘t understand how you failed to do it yourself

bronze pebble
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I can't wait for the next season to start! I love trying new tracks & cars.

tiny tide
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Which car is faster when maxed out: BMW M8 GTE or SCG?

tiny tide
sterile zenith
tiny tide
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@bronze pebble OMG! You have the full Mini family already. Nice.

bronze pebble
sterile zenith
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Can someone put me in some high club to get me the covertte I only have a bad car, please😔☹️😩

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Someone can? that can put me in allto rank groups, to get me covertte

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Someone can?

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For me to get this Corvette

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Can someone please?

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The problem is that I'm in a club that I created, I don't know why I created

bronze pebble
# sterile zenith Can someone please?

You need to build up your garage and experience a bit before any club in the top 20 will give you a chance. However, I give you 10 out of ten for trying!

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You could join Street Kings 2

sterile zenith
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As well? I did not understand

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You can put me to get me the corvette, no?

tiny tide
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I'd say 8 out of 10 max. Minus points for being in the wrong chat room ;) ...

bronze pebble
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You would have to close / leave the team you setup. How many players in your team?

bronze pebble
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Go to promote a club section and see who is interested

sterile zenith
bronze pebble
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There will be

sterile zenith
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There's only me at the club but no one.

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@bronze pebble Are you in a high club?

bronze pebble
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Team managers are always promoting their clubs and looking for new players. You're not going to achieve anything in a team of 1

sterile zenith
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Yes that's why I want a bigger team to get me the Corvette

slender shoal
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Too late to join a club now, all clubs are locked 3 days before the end of the season.

sterile zenith
scenic folio
sterile zenith
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@slender shoal You can help me, no? I so wanted this Corvette?

slender shoal
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Like I posted, Hutch locks clubs 3 days before the end of the season. No club can let you in for this season.

sterile zenith
scenic folio
rigid hollow
round hawk
#

Is it possible to hit more than 1 box at a time in the Rebel Smash Event?

round hawk
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Wow! How?

verbal knoll
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You bumb into the wall just before the boxes - the car resets and you can drive right side and hit 2-4 boxes

round hawk
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Thanks, I’ll give it a try.

dry tiger
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¤

crude bramble
cunning nacelle
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@verbal knoll when car re-reset make sure you got left turn on before you take off and you can clip the box next to you.

abstract thorn
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Guys how do I set up my account so it doesn’t say I’m a rebel racer 94835284936

slender shoal
abstract thorn
slender shoal
# abstract thorn I connected it to my apple account but idk how to change my username

Doesn’t work with Apple unfortunately, I’ve asked that they let us use our Apple Game Center name but they never did anything with it. Your only choices are the evil biased privacy stealing Facebook or Google.

But connecting your Apple account is still good, if your account gets messed up or your switch devices it backs up your account.

abstract thorn
blissful flicker
abstract thorn
#

Eh too much work just for a name, but thanks for the info

still horizon
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Yo who’s online

tiny tide
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Busy racing ... 😅

solar yokeBOT
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@cloud hare has been muted for: 98 weeks, 1 day, 10 hours, and 18 minutes
Reason: spamming link

abstract thorn
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Tf

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Oh

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Rip not much

still horizon
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Lmao imagine

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98 weeks lol

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That’s nearly 2 years

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I would just make a dog account by then

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*dif

shut skiff
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@~Ananasna23⚡~#1137

naive turtle
slender shoal
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If a year ago they put an S car for sale for $75 real money everyone would have thrown a fit and said they were crazy. Yet I’m seeing players spend that right now to get the Porsche. Honestly I find it very entertaining and informative to watch, and I give Hutch credit for coming up with a way to get players to spend $75 on a single game car. I wonder what the next iteration will be to get these same players to spend $150 on a single car?

manic fern
#

Does anyone know when the "12 days of Christmas" start?

slender shoal
manic fern
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Thanks @slender shoal , I did read them, just didn't take in all the details. I'd assumed they would start before Christmas.

slender shoal
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Yes, the 12 days of Christmas doesn’t start until after Christmas is all done, that’s how we do things around here lol.

serene forum
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I am new here

solar vessel
steep halo
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Hi guys

wet geyser
wanton sorrel
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yes

solar yokeBOT
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@lyric ibex has been muted for: 98 weeks, 1 day, 10 hours, and 18 minutes
Reason: spam links

marsh ice
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Hiiii

steep halo
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hi

slender shoal
slender shoal
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Actually it could be $100 worth of refills and gas the way of these guys are going. Still many hours left of mindless coining.

solar vessel
slender shoal
radiant vector
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What if someone gets the car with no refills bought?

slender shoal
solar vessel
radiant vector
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But still people sandbag + coin... What can you say lol

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@solar vessel You from Asian server?

slender shoal
radiant vector
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Even if I get the car... I have no resources to upgrade it @slender shoal

slender shoal
radiant vector
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There is one solution... Remove parts to be purchasable for golds from the upgrade section... That is what spoiled the whole game... The game would be a lot fair then... Keep the parts in the shop but not at the upgrade section.

solar vessel
slender shoal
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You just gave them the idea to have resources only purchasable by gold and no other way 🤦‍♂️😂. They like to do the opposite. This game is only for the 150 big coiners, the rest of us don’t matter.

radiant vector
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Half of the racers that you see now end up top3 in every h2h... They were not even top9 before... It's just this resources available for golds that their every car is maxed... What a bad update they did...

solar vessel
radiant vector
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Imagine having a S6 maxed car and setting a 3 sec slower time than a S4 maxed lmao...

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That too in a M8 😂

slender shoal
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I only have one single car completely maxed with s6 and augs. I race that one all out, as it should be. Too bad they ruined the evergreen events.

radiant vector
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I have several S6 but they're low tier...

slender shoal
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I’m going to try to max the Custom Subaru but then it will sit in my garage collecting dust 😭😂.

radiant vector
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They seriously need to work on the game but God knows what they're doing... Would be sad to leave this game!

steep halo
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They are making boats loads of money with so many willing to pay whatever they ask for with cars, resources, and to win races and the season. They have ZERO incentive to make the game more playable and fix things until the spending patterns change. It's all about economics now.

radiant vector
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Actually I'm not asking for any new thing... Just fix the godamm thing already there lmao 😂

slender shoal
#

The prices will continue to go up, rewards will continue to go down. If customers will pay $75 for a car without hesitation then the only logical thing to do is charge more next time. If players will buy the pro pass after the rewards have been reduced significantly twice, then it makes sense to reduce rewards further. We have the game that the top few clubs have created. It is what it is, nothing the rest of us can do about it 🤷‍♂️.

vague tartan
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Hey, yall! How do I do to play online with my friends? is it possible?

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<@&671744559226683403>

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ok bye merry christmas

radiant vector
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Actually there is no real time MP, but you can do head 2 head races which involves other player's ghost... And yeah Merry Christmas.

eternal mango
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@slender shoal there are good club leaders dennis, slow & shtrudel to mention a few. The top teams could fix these issues with out hutch. Im not sure when that happen but it wouldn't be hard. For now i dont think individual players should be introducing rule changes to hutch, if theres been an election for a player rep, i missed it. We need solutions & consolidation to have game changes, not endless complaining about "coiners" & strategies. Im unaware of any good game that doesn't have competitive players spending money & im guessing without them we wouldn't have a game. We need to turn to club leaders!

abstract thorn
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Yo guys

lost beacon
abstract thorn
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How much club points do you make per race if you use a s class car

lost beacon
verbal knoll
abstract thorn
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Damn

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Then how tf do some ppl have like millions of club points

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Won’t be surprised if it’s a script

verbal knoll
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Script doesn't/can't work in this game

abstract thorn
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So they just grind full time

verbal knoll
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Its the events that gives lot of CP some give millions even

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Then ofc there is spending element to it

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And so on ...

abstract thorn
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Oh i see

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Okay that makes more sense now thnx

regal pivot
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Yo

abstract thorn
#

Change ur user and ur pfp

slender shoal
# abstract thorn So they just grind full time

Some of us grind, but the top clubs get their points from paying money for new cars. Events for new cars have a huge amount of points in them.

But you can get 100 club points from a maxed fused S car that’s not part of that month’s club theme. The max fused S tier cars from T&L give 250 points per race because this is a T&L club month.

abstract thorn
#

Oh okay

steep halo
#

Di you speak polish

eternal mango
#

@lost beacon fair enough. However totally disagree. The handful of top club leaders ive interacted with seem to have character and could easily get massive changes made. Its just a matter of an open discussion, and a pact including strict guidelines for a specific short amount of time. Hutch wants to make money like any business should, this game is a spreadsheet to them. We just need to show that serious minded, loyal players can introduce formulas to the revenue column. Im not sure this forum is the best place for that discussion. Most importantly i dont think that constant miscellaneous complaining from a handful of people who profess not to spend real money is in any way going to provoke any meaningful changes.

slender shoal
lost beacon
oak bane
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I need a hero
I'm holding out for a hero 'til the end of the night
He's gotta be strong
And he's gotta be fast
And he's gotta be fresh from the fight
I need a hero

tiny tide
#

So I did end up on position 20 - without any extra gold spent. I feel like that's ok. I had some good races :).

verbal knoll
tiny tide
proud radish
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I am Samsung tab A

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Adm pleseeee

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😢

sand lichen
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Bruh

rustic portal
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hi guys am new here

rustic quail
rustic quail
rustic portal
#

can we play this game in any computer system

pulsar salmon
#

Damn same time lol

slender shoal
#

$100+ worth of gold for an S tier car. Wow, I was wrong, congrats to the developers.

rich mesa
#

Caralho

eternal mango
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Does anyone have upcoming schedule?

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@slender shoal

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Your spot on zod. Calculate the cash for my bracket top 7 @ 50 cents a ticket with avg. Of 26 points per race. Its mind bending.

verbal knoll
eternal mango
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@verbal knoll Thank You

verbal knoll
#

Some got lucky with Porsche 😆😆

torpid hemlock
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I wonder what else I could spend £90 on???

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🤣

eternal mango
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@verbal knoll is it better to wait & enter late to get softer field? Or just luck.

verbal knoll
azure ice
eternal mango
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@azure ice 🤠

slender shoal
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Well, to be fair there is a 1 there so it’s not an exact copy 😉. But they failed to spend $100 for one virtual car, so they should be banned from the game forever 😂.

eternal mango
#

@ what club are you with?

slender shoal
pulsar salmon
#

How did everyone fair? Pretty decent considering this is just some random crew I just joined

eternal mango
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@slender shoal i was asking you.

slender shoal
plain jewel
#

Hutch mentioned that we should keep our eyes peeled for Christmas gifts. Did they mean Christmas sales promotions?

slender shoal
plain jewel
slender shoal
flat lark
fluid hornet
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What is this

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He is using my name wtf

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How can I Bann him

dusty egret
#

@fluid hornet why are you asking this Twitch question in a Rebel Racing Discord forum?

wanton sorrel
#

if someone has taken the name you wanted then you can‘t do anything against it

fluid hornet
#

This is soooo Annoying

slender shoal
#

It’s getting annoying to click through the gold offer every time I go to the game…