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Seems I cannot upgrade my Atom beyond 416 PP. Is this normal?
@muted girder you still here?
Me
Not normal. Max pp is 421
How to reset player data?
Yes, it will be on YT. Entry must be in the comment section. I've attached winning criteria, rules and other details in the description but I'll be posting the same here as well under #🎬│creator-videos channel when the video gets published which should be in less than 10 minutes now 🙂
ok thanks
I haven't see you for long time in event h2h nfs tar ton😉,...what's up bro?
another giveaway, another nervous "make sure you followed all the criterias" movement from me
and guess what is worser than that
reading the criteria wrong
but now I did it
I might get this for only 499G
Hello how are you all
Zad 😢
HOLY I got the K1 YES!!! 😱
good investment
That's noice.
Agreed 👍 now to customize this I got an event decal that I won before this
@hidden adder
Hey guys i m so proud that can playing in this beautiful game.
I have a just offer for the hutch , as i have see that ,the large amount of players are tired ,that cant be in th first 5th place.
In this game there are a huge amount of players , paying just for win, and be in the top9th place.
Maybe if hutch change the whole system rebel racing h2h , we will playing better
For example first place just for the excellent players with the best record s . then players with the lower time to 100th place.
If hutch doing that, we can change the way playing, more interesting, and everyone will do the best owner record ,and would not do sandbagging to win.
Yeh I couldn't believe it either... I dont have this decal but this one is the best imo
I actually wanted either the two Mclaren cars from the halloween crate my original intention but I got this instead im a happy man 
You'll need it in T&L #2... 🙂
I saw one week ago you have ton of gold and now your gold 700 more🤔,did you buy some resource to upgrade new car like T&L cars😅
Hi
Yo
Yeh well I got the atom car took me 400 G keys to get it tho but its guaranteed some other cars I got as well
Ah great another crate for me to buy just noticed this 😂 👍
The best reward i receive from daily reward after playin RR almost 2 years✌️😅👀
LOL the prizes are peanuts tho
I feel the team should improve the daily rewards a bit better its gonna take ages to get a good car imo
Who is hutch al?
Hutch staff😅 and all hutch staff use his name to be your opponents like easy money race and event h2h(head to head)
They will if we pay more for them😉
Why would they change a smooth revenue model!
hi
There are 4 ways :
1- shop
2- Ladder events
3- H2H events
4- Daily test drive
What’s H2H
Playing against the world
Its where you race other racer's ghost
Lol
Oh ok thank you
Top 5 toughest jobs in the world:
Number 5. Doing 4 ladders at one time
I only managed to do 3
wait the other three just arrived yet?
looks like a yes
why didn‘t it show up here
🤔
Hello i am new to server
I won't be able to complete the D tier one lol...
@everyone
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Oups
Wazzup
I think I know the answer but still: Is the Caterham guaranteed with crate 5 or 8?
8
How do I get a reward from a club cause I have one and it says 2001 + and I have that so what about the reward anyone know?
If you are an active player you should be on a top 50 club, if you spend any money a top 20 club. If you look at the timer it still shows 13 days left in the season before rewards are given.
Oh I don’t know how to join clubs but I have a club but it’s just me
Look through the Promote channel and pick one that might fit and message them. Then when you find one that will let you join, just leave your club. There is no point staying in an empty club, you are throwing away good rewards.
Is there a list of which tracks belong to what area... So for example lonf drive home is in the mini car secction... Observatory is in tier A... Cross the brige in off road... Dnt stop for gas in B category
I believe so
Where do i find it?
Pls
Uhh I would have to check
Possible u could and if u fins it pm me pls
So I checked and theirs no button or news that tells yah😅 but if you look it up it should list them all
Thank u so much
A club capacity is 30 ppl
It is best to join a sub-club of a top 20 team and then climb up from there based on your performance
Contact @solar vessel he should be able to help you with that 👍 good luck 🤞
Wooo! I won!
Ok thank you
i thought u were that ford escort for a sec
Who uses their first car for race
I use the Subaru i got today :DDD
I swear i need to play this game for 3 more days and im good
Then i can become kewl guy
Why is there a candy called sugus
Thx
I already have Tyler's Escort
I will today be A, only playing for 4 days
Can I switch clubs without losing my points in the middle of a season
no
That sux but ok thanks
Hi guys.. I'm kinda new here... Can somebody tell me why I have deleted all my mobile game but still have RR on my my phone?
I actually uninstalled all de games but as I was about to do same to RR, something stopped me... Because RR is de best game! I can never uninstall dis game
@wanton sorrelwhy you here
Xd
<@&671744559226683403>
I’m a beginner so yeah
Hi, I am ur moderator ExplodedCT, and I am glad to service
hola
U koji godini si ti hahah
Lets go I did it A in 4 days
This game is an F joke! Tier D booster offer has the same gold price like Tier S Booster offer with 100 GK 100 SK and 10 k.
The Game is acc Bad
Guys i got maclenern car
does anyone buy them? - I guess they must.
Hello 
Hello I am kawazaki , are you half of me haha
😳
Dayum
Hi
hi i'm from brazil and i don't know how to speak english very well
I don't know how it works, I came for the game
Morning all I played CSR2 for 3 years. The company has become VERRY GREEDY taking everyone's money and not helping the players. So I left....this game has a simuler feal as in the play and I have some knowledge of similarities in game play now.....the crew im in Kinda sucks. I left 2 crews in first place. Now I'm in a crew 6 people including the page owner has 0 points! I'm sitting in 6-7 place now depending on the day. Also remember I left 2 other groups and lost all my points. So I want to be in a TOP 15 next season. Were in 76th place. Not happy with that.
@dusty egret you have to join a group there will be a max of people per group. I think 30. You need to race and collect the blue crates or coins to climb in the rates. But if you join a crap crew and only half of them play then it will leave you close to the bottom of the ranks. Higher crew for example will win cars and extra ones from 1-20 or so.
about clubs
there are some problems
the first type of club is one where they spend a lot to get top poistions (which also want you to invest or else they don't keep you)
then there's the inactive club
I don't understand why you would open a club and then go inactive forever
and then there are the grinder clubs
which do minimal investments with irl currency but do lots of effort to get points and still get good positions
I spent 85.00 in 1 month then I did not receive a car i bought. So I quit spending money. And will still put up good points
did you contact support about that?
@wanton sorrel yes they said if they gave me the car it would show favoritism 🤣.. what the hell.
No worries I have not spent a penny because of that. So you are going to loose 30+ dollars a month over a game car that cost you 0🤣
@wanton sorrel may be. But this game is just that. If I want to spend money its going to be like making my other purchases scooter run 80mph. Not money that will disappear and realy have nothing to show for it
A quick question to anyone. What is more rare?
- Hens teeth;
- Being served food by Elvis at my local fish and chip shop;
- winning a Level 5 Boost Hose;
Please feel free to vote. The winner will be selected from a hat and will win absolutely nothing!
I think the drop rates for this resource are 0.027%, rather than 0.27%!
If Elvis is serving food there is a trick to that one lol
it's 0.27%
else your chance to get anything is more rare than getting a Tier S car
Thanks for your feedback Samsung Tab 3. As you can see from the above pictures, the drop rates for the other stage 5 resources are either the same or very nearly the same, as the boost hose. I get loads of those resources, but none of the one I need. The drop rate therefore doesn’t feel right. I hope that makes sense? Any feedback from Hutch on this would be great. Always happy to get your view on this matter.
Where are events listed for upcoming
Click the calendar icon, top right, then click Event Info.
@clever finch has been muted for: 12 hours
Reason: minutes inappropriate gifs
How many times can we fuse the same car?
Every car can be fused twice, but the cars you use for fusion fodder are destroyed along with any augments on them. So be careful to use only duplicate extra cars you don’t need for fodder.
I have already fused the Mach 1 once. If the next and last fuse only raises my PP to 242, how will I ever reach the max of 252?
Once you fuse it you can upgrade the 6 categories more. We use resources to upgrade those categories, so we have s2 through s6 resources to do the upgrades.
1st fuse unlocks Stage5 upgrades then 2nd fuse unlocks Stage 6 upgrades... Then you can apply those upgrades to increase the PP. @round hawk
Also unlocks additional augment slots.
But do NOT waste s6 on that car, s6 are rare and expensive, save them all for only the very best cars.
Oh, that makes sense. The s5 and s6 upgrades make up the rest of the PP. Thanks so much.
Also, lock that Pontiac, you don’t want to use cars for fodder unless you have more than one if that car. Use cash car fusion instead. Lock one of each car, never sell any cars.
Thanks for the tips.
Hi guys
Hm
Today I am crying a lot, I had accumulated 500 gold with great difficulty, a while ago I went to open the carat of Chaterham 620r and did not find the car, many people got it five times before, I am very sorry
Don't worry, got mine on the 8th crate with my absolutely last keys – it's random 🤷🏼♂️
And there are only two days left. Where can I get the key to this event? I play so hard, I don't get any good service 24 hours a day. I have lost my mind and I will not play anymore. I wish you all the best, Allah Hafez.
Gold keys are not easy to obtain. In the ladders, u get some gold keys, the number of keys is proportional to the gold entry cost. Also for heads to heads, if the entry cost is high, the gold keys reward for top positions will be high too
Ohh noooo,....too many rivals from WRA club and Assetto Corsa👀🧐🙄🤣,i will start racing 1-2 hour event ended😅. The importand get some reward and point for my club and no more competition with this one because i'm sucks with track&laps event🤧
How many people in the bracket?
I've been busy due to Diwali...opened just now to collect rewards from yesterday's h2h events 😄
Seems like not a lot of keys available this week
80 joined until now😅,you and me have no chance to get top 9✌️ but 10-19 place 100%🤣
Man my game keeps turning off on rebel racing anybody have any ideas why

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Any new version
I have this weird feeling Lotus Eleven won't be released this season 💭
The open B ladder introduced on 8th ,
Now any new car Always have a ladder & 2x h2h- so how that's going to fit in the week along side ? Not to forget Lotus has to be won in a h2h too that's 36 hours, they may offer it in crate instead 🤷♂️
The Lotus shouldn’t be released yet. Every T&L h2h has been broken with no hope of fixing it next week. Maybe by the 15th, but that may or may not happen. Get the bugs fixed, then start introducing new cars again imo.
If it is an event prize only a few will have it and spend to upgrade it doesn’t make much sense and there are no real details on the event
Fair point. They may have a new approach, or it could be that the ladder etc is part of the next season..... ? Time will tell.
Maybe they will just give it out to everyone for free as a gift for the T&L H2H being broken....😇
🗿
Salut
Hey there 😊 👋 I am new here.
What's up with these Rebel Smash Events? Are they any good?
We get a free run everyday which is great, get few small rewards. But I can’t recommend paying for additional runs, the rewards aren’t worth it.
Thx Zod. Yes, this is also my experience :)
Regarding Trophies, I am Legend for a while now. Can't say I witnessed any changes in rewards or anything.
Tier B augment
So. Im confused theres a mission that says you need a C classs to do muddy drag mission but muddy drag is only a race that can be done on D class
Yep, there are a couple errors in the Pass challenges, that track is only in D. I pointed that out to them awhile ago, not sure why they didn’t fix it. But overall the big letter on the left of the challenge is not important, what the challenge actually says it what counts.
So i can still do it using D clsss for the challenge?
Yes, the big letter on the left of the challenge has no bearing on completing the challenge.
I just tried and it is showing that jt worked thank you
when there are stupid people in this chat..
Is it just me or is the log in server down
Love the way they blame your internet connection 🤣
Hi
FYI, Hutch says the Lotus is ready to go for next week.
Players: "We want longer races."
Hutch: gives longer races
Players: "We want more longer races."
if we get longer races again then with the car physics we have rather than the racetrack ones
a combo of "A to B" and lap races
on an amusment park at the east of the map
with the beach and the small road next to it
You wanna ride a rollercoaster with the B tier Porsche now? Seems very much possible. 😂 @wanton sorrel
Where they said that?
Tier D trophy event has ended an hour ago and yet it is showing calculating prizes?? Any issue?
They replied in game to my question about whether it was still coming next week.
Same here
? Mine is still active.
How it would be possible.?
security reasons
Ladder no fusion , only 48k CP .
18 gold's keys !!!
Nothing can justify the entry fees
None of the listed ladders are worth entering, they drastically reduced rewards in all of them.
It's not a ladder with ? Question mark
In fact the person who do this , he is not aware of anything
Maybe he wants to show hutch that he is managing the economy
D open ladder, D off road open ladder, Porsche ladder, T&L open ladder.
4 ladders, all terrible rewards. None are worth entering.
This way to do , will not attract new racers .
Same as legend reward and daily reward.
185,000 legend trophies and nothing . Only number
It's a shame as per Talk Talk
In fact it's only to fill one gap
@hidden adder Can you give at least 10 gold's for each 1000 trophies point , as Christmas gift
@rustic needle As has been said many times ... it doesn't get any better 🤷
I am still shocked.
@shut wave you are the pioneer of this game
@rustic needle I think one or the other has been around for a long time 🤔
Congratulations for your patience with Hutch . You are not a human you are a robot 😂😂
Yes...sometimes 😂 🤦♂️
Anyway , hutch will have a lots of regret .. to don't honour the senior racers .
Yes, that's right, a little recognition wouldn't be bad. The daily rewards would be just right for that
The daily reward was better when you don't pass 100 💯 level
Just want to know if hutch will continue like it is . If yes please hutch remove from my screen the daily reward , it will not affected me . Humilty better than shame
Does anyone know if the new Tier S and GT cars are going to be crate cars or straight up purchase cars?
Or something else?
will probably be a mix as usual. I'd be pretty sure that one or two will be gold key crate cars
Yeah, but I hope Hutch fixes all these T&Ls issues before next release... I would be hard to charge users a lot of money for another failed season...
Why would it be hard ? 🤣🤣
They care little about whether the new stuff actually works...that's well documented.
Morally? - 😛
I’m guessing the S and GT cars will be so expensive only the coining top 5 clubs will get them. For all the rest of us, just use next season to save up. No reason to pay for painted trucks you don’t need, no reason to pay 100% overpriced Rover, and if the cars next season are overpriced, just skip them.
I’d like to know how the Lotus h2h works. If they use a T&L h2h to give the Lotus away that will not be good since all T&L h2h have bugs.
Maybe the bugs in the game are intentional so that the non coiners have a chance at getting the Lotus. like a sort of redistribution of wealth. It could be a socialist approach to things.
That actually has a high probability of happening with Hutch. While they might advertise that only the top 5 will get the car, they will accidentally give it to the other 95. Everyone will be up in arms, and Hutch will hand out a second car to everyone so the top 5 can receive theirs. Of course you can‘t use the extra car for fusion and Hutch will introduce a maintenance charge of 10G per month for each car in your garage to compensate.
Lol, the bug is specifically designed for coiners who put s6 on their cars.
You can reach Top 3
you just need to become better than the others in your leaderboard
Does a class “C” augment on a Class “D” car give more power than a class “D” augment on the same car?
The higher tier is always better. So C is better than D, if you have two of the same letter then pick the manufacturer one.
Thank you Z.
I’ve reached level 50 of the Free Rebel Pass. What do I get if I purchase Pro Pass now? All the pro rewards or nothing?
Got all the pro rewards..
ok ty
Why cayman gt4 clubsport is not in the gt category lol
Let GT Tier be released first 😄
I hope they put BMW costum in Rebel pass next season👀
Looking at the cars in GT looks like they are GT3
Ouch,Still became first
I see there is a 918 Spyder ladder coming up soon. Spyder is available as on offer. Does anyone know what form the offer will be? Real cash, gold, gold keys etc?
No offer..it just regular event..like k1 event during week 1 of this season..
Ah, OK. So I guess I will miss out that ladder then! Thx, Able
This issue is not solved.It still show calculating prize😩 😫
It will probably be Monday now before anyone in hutch could look into this .
Wassup all
From my first fusion crate... KTM 👀
Hi
Two years of hoping. Will be two more or they will jusyt give up and sell it at Christmas.
Is it possible to beat lvl 20 on the T&L ladder with that P.O S. CAT 1600 fully fused & maxd rescoursed or do I have to max out the X-Bow & use that instead?
- resourced
Thanks @wooden girder! I owe you 😂😂😂
Courtesy subscription to hutch's jelly of the month club...🤗
What is the name of this game
Check the server name, that the game name 😑
No gold keys reward any more. But still use gold coin to entry event. High cost entey But low reward. What happening!!
What about player #1? Is that the Zod definition for coining with so many hours left in the game? That player has some serious issues!
How do i get image perms so i can post my car in #⛽│car-chat
Go to the Welcome channel, it will tell you how to get a role, then you can post pics.
Just wait until we can fuse the KTM, should be able to do it.
Lvl 20
Nice job! I need to fuse my Ariel and my X-Bow one more time before I can attempt it. The only one I had jacked up enough to try was my 1600. I got all the way thru lvl 19 with that 1600 but I cant catch that the X-Bow to save my life on lvl 20!
He's so damn fast, it's ridiculous
It's say find in Rebel Pass not Christmas offer👌, Christmas offer(black friday offer) they only offer all gold cars from D to S and Subaru costum plus camaro costum last year.
@slender shoal ,what's up old man👀🤭
Your ariel maxed Rizwan?
I’m still old, and the worst part is I’m older than yesterday lol.
The shitiest game ever
That's what i like from you old man😉😁
I don't see any argumentation so you might have told that as a joke 😀
Why doesn't race kings work anymore although it's in the play store just a waste of 500mb
hi
Someone could tell me
they turned the servers for the game off
Yk
I played rebel racing it seems p2w
Same as that uh other game
I forgot the name
Top drives
nah Top Drives is not P2W
it can‘t be P2W
it‘s just RNG
and looking at you you look like you had bad luck
but here
many look things wrong and keep saying it‘s P2W
the Chevrolet K5 Blazer is the best example
people think they are forced to buy it to continue playing the game
Only 5th stage
I have been missing rewards on few rungs 🤷♂️ did you guys get rewards on all rungs ?
Had same problem with B & now A ladder
I got no rewards on rung 18,19 or 20.
There were a few rungs with nothing more than the cash prize, I had assumed that was by design the in the current “reward balancing” structure there seems to be
That's why I've stopped doing that...
Only did a few beginning races then heard about people not getting rewards...
I always step out of ladders after each rung rather than continue to next rung. Seems to work.
but ... were there not supposed to be any Lotus 3 events this week? 🤔 still not seen in the event list. @hidden adder
There are some issues …..
We are like in school , waiting the teacher to come back for the class.
No any news from hutch
Maybe still in vacation
Or maybe they disappeared ?
Halloween is done already , maybe they not aware , still collecting the bonbons 🍬🍬🍬
I doubt that Lotus 3 Eleven will be better than Cat 620R....
But anyways... Nothing much left to do...
Things gone for a toss since last couple of months. Imho, a new bird has joined the gang and flying with others in random directions. Now they all have forgotten the path to return home.🤣 🤣
That's mean the Arial Atom have hight PP than normal car road cars😅. Like you know all road cars the limit PP only 415✌️
Instivigate team will there soon😉
@vast mulch ,this car only avalaible with real money or gold offer😅. Lotus 3 eleven the best one than Caterham 620R✌️
the Nomad is the slowest car of all in T&L
but it‘s the fastest car in T&L when it comes to offroading
Hi, I m very new to this game , lvl8, and have basically no clue. I read throuh the faqs already. What are the main mistakes to avoid as beginner.? And how many points should one do daily to become somehow interesting for joining any somehow ambitious crew?
Did you check #💡│tips-and-tricks ? That will tell you the most required and important stuffs of the game. @rotund agate
ok thks, I ll do.
hi
what means h2h? Is the Taylor boss car imortant for later? And can I reset my game?
important*
No boss cars are important, that are not worth paying for. H2h is head to head where we race other player’s ghost in a competition.
ok tx, glad to hear😉
Only the Last Boss Ava's Chiron is somewhat useful.
I don’t know about you but not sure my driving on T&L would notice any difference anyway 😂
I'm sort of getting consistent times now after these h2h events.... @blissful flicker
I’m consistently slower than the fastest time I’ve done 😂
I actuallly started playing thanks by an ad I got when I was playing asphalt 8 lol
Oh lol
gets better and better every time
So hutch can make some money for doing nothing at all I think
That’s exactly what I thought! I’m glad that you’ve confirmed them for me.
dear Hutch, here we are in sheer madness
It is evident that Hutch is in great difficulty. He said that he will solve the problems of h2h TandL from day 15 and therefore at the end of the season. To recover he is putting in events already made to make cash. All of this is painful, angers the players, and adds to the deafening silence that Hutch is keeping
I don t know what to do with this task: Draft 300 meters in Tier D races. What means draft?
You have to be in the wake behind another car
ah ok , tnx 👍🙏
Yes I can explain , it's like in restaurant , you order a steak medium but they will bring you welldone . After they will offer you for apologise the dessert.
Hutch can't provide on time the Lotus , then they will do a re run .
But the difference is, the dessert is free but not the ladder .
They are treating us like guinea pigs for their experiments. T&L Tier B open ladder failed today as not many players opted it due to Very poor rewards. So, they introduced one more carrot.
Sorry for harsh words but it is truth. Whatever players will happily grab, they will remove it or change (decrease) the rewards. A few examples are
1 Daily Tier A ladder
2 Tier S shoot out infact all shootout
3 Weekly Tier D road & off-road ladders
4 50GK/SK Crates (Now 💯 GK/SK)
5 T&L resource drop rates are drastically low
It seems Hutch wants to close the game or wants to get rid of old players 🙏
bruh
weelky tier D seems to be my keyword, I have several weekly challenges, racing with Tier D 7.1..., 7.3..., 7,6... and 7,7. I don t have any opportunity to do these races in the D map atm. Will these races appear within the next days?
The 7.1 … 7.3 etc tracks are in the Tracks & Laps section, which I believe isn’t unlocked until you beat the Tier S boss.
🤔
thx, seems to be an unrealisable challenging task, I just opened Tier C and am on lvl9.🥴
I can swap those 4 challenges for 100 gold each 🤣
Send a message to the in game support. That’s a bug. You should not get 7.x tracks in your Pass at your level.
ok, thx, I ll do so.
these are the four
So the Tier B T&L ladder...let me see if I understand this.
You work twice as long or longer per race, pay twice as much to enter, receive half of what you would have gotten in the past?
Is that about right?
Oh yeah! Forgot to thank hutch for the opportunity!!!
Just out of curiosity, does anyone on here play any of the following Hutch games?
If so, are they just the ‘same meat’ / ‘different gravy’ format?
To me this game started off so well, with great short easy game play and a quick and easy way to progress. But as most players have found over the past 3 months or so, the excitement has subsided dramatically. It’s now more difficult and very expensive to progress. I believe many established players have now left this game. I think this game could be coming to an end and the Hutch resources have now been spread into the other games. This would explain the radio silence and poor lack of service being offer by Hutch to repair / correct their bugs. I want to be proved wrong, but so many players seem to be echoing the same message.
I echo this message
I'm afraid I have to agree too...the radio silence from the Hutch team seems to indicate they are preparing to shut down.
I would love to be proved wrong too. Please prove me wrong!
Hutch? You out there?
Even a simple response might go along way.
And re-echo…
They went from making it more and more expensive, to unplayable. To suddenly take all gold keys away and keep the entry price the same? I honestly can’t imagine why they think that will make more people play the game.
could be they are just busy, or bored with answering the same old questions. Just because they are changing the game doesn't mean it's the end of it. That's the same psychology as religious doomsday ideologies....😏
My question is new- Are you still in business?
And they never answer my questions even on a good day!!! Hahaha...😋
ok
Presumably if they weren't in business then the game wouldn't be functioning.
I think you know what I am trying to get at...I dont want to parse words with you AICanDo. I understand where your coming from though. 👍
Unfortunately the game isn’t functioning to it full ability. Hutch continues to either ignore, or simply can not be bothered to respond to players concerns. For a game which depends on players spending to continue its development, they don’t seem to care a great deal. My next question is, do other similar games on the IOS and Android platform provide the same or better entertainment for roughy the same amount of spending. Do they also treat their customers in the same way as Hutch? Hutch needs to be aware that if they continue down this path, players will find alternatives.
Have you noticed Hutch hasnt bothered to even chime in jokingly "Were still in business! Hahaha..."
It would be nice to get / receive a reaction from Hutch. In the same way there’s been no feedback from them Q&A’s etc. It really feels like they’ve run out of ideas. The T&L was supposed to be their make or break, unfortunately this has not worked out for them either, with the bugs and the opponent selection. I’m not sure of the way forward for Hutch and this game, but it feels limited.
The bugs and selection was a bit frustrating, but hopefully that can be sorted. Otherwise I'm liking the T&L. - Overall now, as a game they have a good selection of races.
I assume they can fix the T&L bugs, but they intentionally chose to set augments at almost zero fodder, lowered the resource drop rate in T&L to almost nothing, increased resources needed to upgrade, reduced cash rewards by 90%, increased cost of booster crates 400%, decreased h2h rewards for 10th and higher, and completely removed gold keys from most events. They did all those changes in secret, intentionally not telling us about any of them.
You can continue to defend them, but the majority here have made the decision to eliminate or reduce spending on the game because of what they are doing. There are fewer active players in this game than any other mobile game I’ve played. Every month we have fewer players, eventually the CFO of MTG will demand an explanation for an ever declining participation rate.
100% agree with what you’ve said Zod. You’ve summarised all the negative impact Hutch have secretly imposed over the past few months. Transparency and openness is the way forward and one of the main points for having this community on Discord. All that appears to happen is a hollow / meaningless apology from Hutch every time they change something without telling the players first.
It's easier to ask for forgiveness than for permission. 😉
The trouble is people have got fed up with forgiving Hutch. Perhaps Hutch can start making up with their customers.
You all notice the crickets in the background? Creak creak... creek creak... creak creak.
That's all you will hear from hutch
There is always the "delete app" button. - Anyway I'm not getting into that it's tiresome. They run their business the way they do. - I was just commenting on the game itself, that in terms of the tracks now, it's pretty good in terms of variation; having the standard ones, the mini, off road and now T&L.
I agree completely ALCanDo! I really like the T & L tracks...that's the game I had hoped to play from the beginning.
I guess that's why the disappointment is so strong for me.
I was led to believe the Discord app was the communication portal they wished us to use to work with them. That's really my main issue.
But you are absolutely right!!! I'm exhausted trying to reach out to them.
Which is their strategy. If they ignore you and you keep playing and spending, then that is success for them. They are clearly choosing to not communicate. They have been fairly clear this game is and will become even more a P2P game. They will push the pricing to what the market will bear, then maybe back off a bit. They haven’t yet hit the price points beyond which their revenue producing players will limit their spending.
I think what @oak bane is trying to say is there is a tiny fraction of total player base here , out of which I think in total less then 20 active. Now who should they listen ? 20 players or consider the numbers that reflect the trends of spending , liking and dislike of the players ? 🤷♂️ as i said before if the numbers are adding up that's all matters to any business. A company of that scale clearly knows what they doing.
They have given the hints multiple times now how this game will be in future but we continue to fight it in our head. Its simple message: Take it or leave it 🙂
I have no legit argument to that at all...
T&L was a mess and bugged from day 1 , it could have been easily stopped or delayed ... but was it stopped or delayed?
If we still can't get the message then i am not sure how else they should say it 🤷♂️?
With the "Take it or leave it" idea in mind I believe I will make my decision.
Really appreciate the back and forth with everyone today! Best wishes to everyone.
And we all knew this was going to be the case, but still hung in there to see the train wreck happen.
Not sure that was what I was thinking, but hey....
Its very simple there is no point of us going over and over same stuff ... all we doing is frustrating ourselves and stressing out.
It is time we accept the reality and deal with it.
The complete removal of gold keys is new, that’s not the same old stuff. That’s the one that I don’t understand. If you can’t earn gold keys from playing your only choice is the shop. The number of players willing to buy keys from the shop is quite small. Look at the prices. If the upcoming GT is 12 gold boxes to get it, that’s 1200 gold keys which is almost $100. Do they really think thousands of players will spend $100 for a single car?
Nice logo.
Thank you 😊 credits Justin he got it designed 🙂
The T&L tracks and Tier A Caterham are cool. It’s just the opponent selection algorithm for H2H that sucks in its current form. But I have to believe that can be changed.
Agreed. I struggled a bit with B tier Atom but with the caterham in A tier it all started falling into place. Once they make a few tweaks it'll make for good H2H events.
So, does anyone know anything more about the upcoming Lotus 3 Prize Event other than what is listed in the event info.
Specifically, what rank do you have to get to get the prizes car?
The car is listed as a possible prize, but who can get it?? Top 10? Top 3? Top 20?
Great question. We have been asking that for awhile, but they have never given us an answer.

Bad game
Why need internet if u just play with bot
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And why the race is short
I figured it would have been asked already. Did a quick scroll but couldn't find the info.
Thanks @slender shoal
@everyone
Top 1-9 i guess but top 3 the prizes get 4 star lotus 3 eleven and top 4-9 lotus 3 star like event h2h subaru 22B with prizes subaru costum C tier✌️
Ah, interesting. Let's see if that's the case. Thanks!
1st place only.... everyone else can go cry in their cereal! Lol
I think Hutch is going to get more creative than that to ”earn” the Lotus. The requirement will be you have to purchase at least 10 ticket refills in the H2H. Clutch, for you, though, you only have to do it once just to get you to break your vow.
Might hafta sell some of my tesla stock🤔 hmmm... seems worth it🤣
Actually I read that Elon Musk was selling 10% of his stock so he could afford to join Rebel Racing to start his own team to beat WRA.
Lol... elon called me about that... but i advised against it... told him with that 10% he could buy up 100% rivian when they have their ipo later this month... might be slightly better long term investment 😂 🤑
Not everyone want this car,even i'm not joining in the event h2h to get Lotus 3 eleven✌️😅
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No gold keys anymore in H2H thophy event😫 😩
Yes. Pity the Lotus 3-11 H2H is going ahead despite the needed fix to T&L H2H not coming until next week. 🙄🤦♂️
Just think …. 500 gold entry, coiner hell so, say 5 or 6 refills at 500 each, plus another 1000 or so for rematches because to score good points with the current opponent selection algo you need to be consistent within 0.17% of your best time. So think about 4000-5000 gold and you might just get the car.
And first Tier A event I have seen with 500 entry price. 25% inflation.
Right. (As I sigh a resigned sigh)
Hii
The bug may not affect the lotus event as it's a separate thing. Maybe. - I wasn't intending on doing the lotus event anyhow.
Since it’s a T&L H2H I’m guessing it will be affected by the same bugs as the Caterham H2H. But I’m less talking about the +5/-20 bug, which affects only the first 5 races if your car is fast, and more about the opponent selection time ranges, which are set the same as for the shorter tracks and so too narrow for these longer tracks - that ruins the event experience.
You're probably right. The thing is, even if it was working I wouldn't enter it as the best car of that tier is already out. (if the stats are correct)

One final question. Have Tier S road cars almost become obsolete, unless you’re willing to pay between 300-500 gold coins to enter an event with them?
Hutch, I would like to point out some wrong tactics, in my opinion, in the game! First of all, I'm an old RR player and I've spent a lot of money. (You can see it from my in - game account!). Lately I have not been excited about the game, because, especially after the implementation of the clubs season, there are players who indulge in a relentless pursuit of tickets to the games in order to take the first places, without necessarily being the best drivers! There are many personal examples of players, who, while I beat them repeatedly in the matches between us, they take first places, collecting multiple points, because they bought tickets 5,6,7… times during the match! I do not enter the process of this chase because the best does not win, which should be the philosophy of the game !!! I have noticed that some very good players who used to be actively involved are now away! At some point you implemented the matches without the right to buy tickets! It was a good thought! My suggestion (I believe other players and I know for sure from my club!) Is to make the matches with no right to buy tickets or buy up to 2-3 times during the match, as well as the right to repeat the race, none or 1- 2 times ! In this way you create equal match conditions for all players and more players will compete who will exhaust their equal rights in the match and the ranking will be more meritorious! I believe that you will not lose money this way, because you will pique the interest of many good players and those who want to become better, to participate and exhaust their rights in the ticket market, because the ranking at the end of the match will be fair! Think! It is better to have a meritorious match, where most good players will exhaust the right to buy tickets (the 1-2-3 times you will set), than to have an unworthy match with a few players who will repurchase 5-6-7… times tickets!
pretty much so, now that cash H2H seems to have gone. Useful for doing X2 easy money.
The fortnightly enjoyment of racing the tier A & S cars and tier C & B car much out weights the current format. I know set my goals on how much gold coins I can muster and how much (Useless) in game cash I can earn for enjoyment. The daily Tier D games are okay, but to me this game is dying (which I will add is a great shame).
Very good point. I would have thought it’s obvious that 50 players buying 3 refills is more revenue than 10 players buying 6 refills (on average), not to mention, as you say, much more enjoyable and fairer for the players. 🤷♂️. But, strange things happen.
@wet geyser hello to you, if you want to be listening by hutch, you should send your message to them directly. I don't know if they are reading everything.
Put @hutch-xxxx and send
@wet geyser by the way I agree with you at 💯 percent
…Not forgetting those precious keys in the Daily Test Drive, unlike the Off-Road version which is just a waste of fuel because you can earn more cash doing a Tier-S race.
Speaking of tier S races ... I haven't seen one in a while.
Anyone know where I can post pictures
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Hutch, I would like to point out some wrong tactics, in my opinion, in the game! First of all, I'm an old RR player and I've spent a lot of money. (You can see it from my in - game account!). Lately I have not been excited about the game, because, especially after the implementation of the clubs season, there are players who indulge in a relentless pursuit of tickets to the games in order to take the first places, without necessarily being the best drivers! There are many personal examples of players, who, while I beat them repeatedly in the matches between us, they take first places, collecting multiple points, because they bought tickets 5,6,7… times during the match! I do not enter the process of this chase because the best does not win, which should be the philosophy of the game !!! I have noticed that some very good players who used to be actively involved are now away! At some point you implemented the matches without the right to buy tickets! It was a good thought! My suggestion (I believe other players and I know for sure from my club!) Is to make the matches with no right to buy tickets or buy up to 2-3 times during the match, as well as the right to repeat the race, none or 1- 2 times ! In this way you create equal match conditions for all players and more players will compete who will exhaust their equal rights in the match and the ranking will be more meritorious! I believe that you will not lose money this way, because you will pique the interest of many good players and those who want to become better, to participate and exhaust their rights in the ticket market, because the ranking at the end of the match will be fair! Think! It is better to have a meritorious match, where most good players will exhaust the right to buy tickets (the 1-2-3 times you will set), than to have an unworthy match with a few players who will repurchase 5-6-7… times tickets!
@wet geyser
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I don't understand Hutch staff..they can answer basic question what the new racer ask but can't even reply to important issue that most of players been asking regarding T&L and also the remove of gold key in trophy h2h..a little announcement or shoot-out in required channel and explain about the movement I guess is enough..i know sometimes when you make an announcement, lots of negative comments and harsh words coming from players, but that something as game developer has to dealt with..not radio silence to all complaint that been made..I hope im not been banned by making this statement..hehe...😁
Thanks for mentioning this, I was thinking exactly the same thing!
@solar vessel You wont be banned...just ignored.
Well, the info we have from them is they hope to fix the T&L h2h issues on the 15th. Unfortunately I don’t know if they are just trying to fix the +5 -20 bug, or if they are are trying to widen the .2 second matching problem also.
As for gold keys, they are now gone from all non expensive events. The game gets more expensive every month, and has for 10 consecutive months. Take it or leave it, those are our choices.
Because us older racers are being driven out of the game for newer gamers who haven't seen the game take a big healthy 💩 on them yet
💯
100 gold keys: once again I did not get the Caterham 620R ... 😫
Jan123, you’re not missing much by not having the Caterham. In fact you’re be less frustrated with this game by not having it.
This will be my last serious season with this game. I may pop back for the odd race etc, but this will be me finished with it. I will now be on the search for a better racing game between now and the end of the season.
Ah, ok. Thanks for the kind words :)
Plz share with me, if you find anything decent .. and not crazy expensive like you-know-who :)
yes pls, something with curves and drifts, have been on the straight for almost 13 months and now I m desperate for some drifts. the driving experience is quite nice at RR but all the problems I hear , I m not sure if I will stay for long.
Once I find a suitable alternative to RR, I’ll DM you all.
Yes I’d like to know of one as well
Can anyone suggest what control is best for this game?
tilt to steer
@hidden adder please could you listen to all racers . You can't continue like it is .
We were suporting the game since longtime, but the rules have changed and it's not by us . Do not try to take more from us. You have passed the limit . After reading all the message .
Hutch home is burning
What car should I use to tier B
The Ruf
Oh sadly I dont have that yet but I have the 2006 ford gt
That's the next best one
Alright
Provided it's maxed out
What's the highest pp for that car cause I have it at 347
How do I do that cause I never got a role before
Ok
I need 1 more gold to upgrade my last part for my tier c car then I can go to tier B
Nice 😊 good luck 🤞
how do i get money fast as a new person
To get cash and progress in this game you want to use as much gas as possible everyday. If you have the time you can use 100 gas per day.
okay. i just keep doing ladder games when i can is that good?
Depends on the ladder. Some events are good some are not. But using your highest car in easy money races will give you a lot of cash and resources over time.
On the brighter side you can now see the club points earned with the removal of Gold keys 🤣🤣
Has anyone managed to lap a competitor on a T&L circuit yet?
Yes 🙌 i did
Nice! I saw the ass end of a car just entering the first corner as I finished my lap. I was very close to getting him! I'll try harder for that during my ladder runs.
If you enter with higher pp & manage to flip over his car then you have a good chance 👍
Did anyone ever find out how the Lotus 11 is going to be earned? Top 3, 9, 19?
Nope. Guess we have to wait for someone on the Asian server to tell us when they see the event.
10-4...thanks Zod.
Top 3 lotus 3 eleven 4 star and 4-9 lotus 3 eleven 3 star no prizes car for 10-19😅 like event h2h prizes car long time ago👍
The event list says it’s all 3 star. But we don’t know how many get it.
Ah...ok. That was before my time! I've been playing about 14 mos now. Dont think they were doing the different star cars then
Let's find out later old man😉👍
They did it before in h2h prizes car like P1 5 star and P1 4 star,570 s 4 star and 570s 3 star and the last subaru costum 3 star and subaru costum 2 star👍. In the event h2h subaru 22B i finish on top 6-9 get subi costum 2 star😉
Those days are dead and gone. Hutch doesn’t want you to even talk about them. No reason to give anyone false hope with old timey stories.
I want a shot at that custom Subaru!!!
Who knows✌️😅 and you are not Hutch staff🤭
I joined a team 12 hours ago. Is it normal that the buttons Chat, Request and Boost are not usable?
Yes. Those systems are still being worked on. 🙂
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You're welcome. 🙂
Give me a sec.
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Your points is better than our 2 or 3 last place in our club even they have play for weeks..keep up your good work..👍
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Haha I am laughing bro
Good job very good job
tks all🙏, I don t quite know where they come from yet🤣
Hello every1
I'm new1
Here
a lot of people here which i don't know are private messaged me, last guy sent a wave sticker and just fade away lmao.
Good luck
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Does anyone know the best time possible on 2.3 off ramp with ford focus ? Thanks
Ive done 20.389 in 2.3 with a Focus and I’m old, so I’m guessing less than 20.3, but seems like a J Mueller question.
@hidden adder dear Katie , can you ended the season 6 , no more challenge. Lotus will be out of the season . No more target. Only expenses for routines events
@hidden adder I will ask my office boy to wash my cars: Range rover, strip and star cars .,.. only wash. No use
You should launch on daily basis some specific event with the cars we got in previous season.
My ruff Porsche class A , still on my show room not on the road
You said before introducing the range rover , you need to say conclusioning the range rover
Stay safe .
Thank you for the good time .
Today I feel that the game doesn't like me .
Today I feel that I have been betrayed by the game .
I will go back to my PS4 and I will play Assetto Corsa game
Low 20.3s I think. I haven’t recorded this one though. From memory I think the best I’ve done is around 20.33.
That's with focus ? And without tilt controls? Correct
Focus, yes. Max augments. Tilt.
We know the score of the best club, can we have the score of individual racers .
Only to compare
#challenge show your score
Ok that makes sense 👍 thank you. I was looking to compare tap vs tilt times
@verbal knoll So, all these new unbeatable times with tilt?
Today's post in #🎮│game-updates
The exact percentages are:
Easy Opponent: 105%
Medium Opponent: 103%
Hard Opponent: 101%
Impossible Opponent: 98%
Does this mean we'll get to choose from 4 opponents? Or is it randomized which 3 out of the 4 you'll get or something?
I don’t have a big difference in that track between tilt and arrows to be honest.
I tried tilt and I can't believe that I had .150 better time on some tracks of D tier... Will look into it someday...
3 of your team and one of other
Tilt times are considerably faster, yes 🙌 I don't i need you to explain why 😉
Tilt is half a second faster in most tracks.
Yeah and it looks like T&L would be better with Tilt....
I got to :380-390 at times with arrows but never :323 or close ✊
Taking the perfect turn etc.
Not always
I don’t think I’ve gotten to 20.323. I think 20.33 or 20.34. I missed the C event today (1 hour earlier!) 🤦♂️
I have raced tilt for years in RR3, hence it's just not possible for me to get used to this tilt. It's hard to settle for anything less when you already tried the best 🤣
Wait, what... You guys getting C tier events??
Yes 🤷♂️
C tier daily?
I haven't seen a C tier h2h for a few days now...
And also Tier A.
Only D tier Daily.
Ladder or h2h?
I can do tilt on Beach Road, I completely fail with tilt on every other track 😂.
And one more thing... Does following the raceline gives you a bit boost on the turns??
Specially in T&L... You exit a turn while on raceline and you'll still be ahead of someone taking a tight turn...
It's not track time channel
Never noticed, the physics of this game is beyond my comprehension 😂
Please move on
@rustic needle Could you please refrain from your non sensical posting? It adds nothing to the community...
I can’t move on without a lotus flower…
Haah
What to do
T&L I feel it's more about how soon you straighten up as you exit the turn
Following the raceline is still the best route I think... Not in off road tho... Or maybe there too..
On road i tried and RAce line don't help for sure
Off road is same I think
T&L never tested honestly
You still get invoiced for my time 🤣🤣
I find the race line a general guide, not the perfect racing line.
And i was correct 😆😆
@hidden adder now that there is no Lotus event,can we end the season. You can give players 24h notice to avoid backlash like last time.
Yeah end the season and give out double rewards as discussed 🥳
what s the best way to get fuel? basically I have to stop racing every 15 minutes because of no fuel and no ad for fuel.🥴
Your only option is free fuel ticket every 30 min and one off fuel tank upgrade
Yes , you are correct
The service that hutch promised was corrupted
You pay for business lunch and you have Mac Donald
I’d suggest coming up with a pattern to follow. Log in every 30 minutes, or if you can’t then every 60 minutes. That way you have a few gas waiting and can get a free ad gas.
thx to all, if one drives a lot in evenings would one get enough Gold to buy enough fuel to drive for a while or would the Gold be badly invested that way?
Never invest gold to buy fuel. You will not have enough gold to keep up with events / upgrades let alone using it on fuel tickets
thx🙏
Yep, never buy gas, for any reason. Whether you are free to play or spend money, gold and gold keys need to be saved. Use them only for the best things. This is a long term game, you just have to get used to waiting for gas everyday.
thx, though this game will be an occasional and not competitve game for me as I can t race every 60 minutes . I ll keep enjoying the driving exeperience. It s really nice.
In conclusion , play the game only if you want to missrepect some one
Anyone seeing new / replacement event for Lotus? In Asian server ?
No
So just one more event to go Porsche h2h ✊
Maybe yes , they will launch a Pontiac D event with one key of gold , 2 key sylver , 3 key bronze and 5 gold's coin
This time we as players ask you to ended the season 6. Last season 5 you have ended without notice .
Running event on D class .
It's boring
There's no information about that yet but once we do, we'll let you know. 🙂
Okay sound good . After 5 season we have to face always problem . If as racers we have committed properly. Hutch should also commit and reward as what mentioned . Now no gold keys. Lotus delayed that I can understand. But all event is the same ( D class or C class) always the same . I am not sure if I am the lonely players who said that . But you need to conduct a survey
No need to conduct a survey, everyone is bored of the same events over and over. But now that they took out gold keys the events are not even worth entering so the whole game becomes boring.
Yes you are right
But I was trying to do smoothly
It's okay , when we are eating always the same food , we are full. Diet is recommended
We appreciate your feedback! Unfortunately, I am in no place to fix or change anything but I can assure you that I'll take note of this and have it reach our team.
You will see game participation fall measurably, the decision to remove all gold keys needs to be reversed if you want to have a viable game next year.
I'm sure our team is monitoring all feedback with the latest changes. Just hang tight as they collect all details they need to know on which points changes/adjustments should be made.
But rest assured, I'll take note of these feedback and have it reach our team. Thank you for sending your feedback!
Well at least my girlfriends are happy to learn about this dearth of gold keys...😅 i could use a bit more cardio anyways...😏 i been slackin of late😳
Hi
Hello! 🙂
Hi 🙋♂️
Hello there
Hello
Oh yes, I nearly forgot the Double Reward plan.
We wont be ending the season early, there's only 4 days left.
Oh
well that aged well.
Yeah on the 2nd thought leave the season running there maybe clubs who are pushing to improve their position ✊✊ it can upset them 👍👍
@hidden adder will lotus be offered for Golf purchase right after h2h ? Or would it remain event car as advertised?
It will remain an event prize
Is there any plan to revive Rebel Racing from slow racers? You may think of separate server for them @hidden adder
Ends 15th November 15:00GMT
panic
I don't think I understand your Q
I may be wrong but i think he is referring to players with lower pp / less upgraded cars who find it hard to compete with maxed cars in the bracket.
Ahh right! No, that's not being considered at the moment
The opposite actually. I’m referring to those with maxed car intentionally race slow to grab points from those with lower cars.
Hello everyone!
oh ok, my bad 👍
Time to complete the Pass lol
Stuck at 39 😅
@hidden adder Have you explained, or can you, the reason for dropping gold keys out of so many events?
@hidden adder yeah..I want to know it too...this is important things to address..
what is this madness you speak of?
@hidden adder - Katie, the update on the 15th, this is purely for dealing with the H2H issue? - There are no other changes happening as well? You know, just in case you had forgot to mention something...
If there is something else, they wouldn't tell her.
That rematch button is probably returning but this time your opponent won't lose points if you do rematch multiple times.
There won't be any shootout without that button. It allows them to make some extra little cash.
The way to address that sandbagging problem is to have the algorithm use PP as well as time when matching opponents. Hopefully that will come eventually, but don’t expect it next week. In the meantime the change to percentages of time rather than absolute times (while generally a good change especially for T&L) may make sandbagging worse. 🤷♂️ @pure hinge
Yes, it's only the server side update for the times. The update for Club Season 7 will be out on the 22nd November.
Wait how is that going to work ? you have 3 new cars with ladders and h2h to run before next season ? and there was suppose to be good break between club seasons ?
I don’t mind rematching so much - at least the opponent has to, in the end, have the ability to beat your time. But you are right, perhaps after a certain number of rematches the loser shouldn’t lose points. What really depresses me sometimes is just coining points by racing weak times.
Just one week to wrap up lotus, nomad and KTM events.
No round 2 this time around.
Yeah that does not sound right to me - so clearly there is something which we are not being informed and another surprise bomb will be dropped as usual 🤣
Next week - 15th-21st Nov will have events for the Ariel Nomad, KTM X-Bow and Lotus 3-Eleven
But why such rush ? is there a deadline to meet ? like Xmas deadline ? we do not mind Club season after X mas
The Christmas Season's all planned out too, it's all happening on schedule.
There's no rush - we always have a "Prize Week" between seasons
Gonna need to update your username
I do not need to say but i think even you can tell it will be a mess - even reading this rings alerts.....
There's a Lotus 3-Eleven H2H in the first week of Season 7 too
I can already see what is going to happen in club season 7 🤣 🤣 history going to repeat itself 😂
They can't afford a delay, otherwise people will have a chance to get some GK during the interval. They can't continue to remove GK from events like they did with the tier B events, it's not sustainable.
They have to succeed next season. They need people to buy Key bundles to get these.
The only thing thats changed in Season 6 is the Lotus 3-Eleven's release. Everything else is happening as per the Patch Notes
with bugs of course 🙂 as planned 🤣
You're having a season over Christmas or just before?
There will be a short Club Season over Christmas
Club Season 8 will be 27th December until the 10th Jan.
- This wont be Tracks & Laps Cars
Club Season 9 starts on the 17th Jan until 14th Feb - This brings new Tracks & Laps Cars
You will be shut down for Xmas and you decided to run a club season ?
They are cramming in 2 more seasons this year. New trend seems to be constant seasons with only a week between.
That's a lot of information 🙂. Are you able to reveal if there will be silver Boaster crate next season?
Sounds promising. Other it’s very demotivating
We're not cramming in Season 7 - its a full season. We've prepared a short season for over Christmas that allows the game to have events running whilst the office is closed down and without staff manually enabling anything.
All this info should be summarized and released in an announcement.
It will be all in the Patch Notes released next week
You are cramming it in, only giving a week between this season and the next.
Club Seasons are 1 week longer and the Prize cars for Clubs and Rebel Pass are now held in the same week rather than separate
The game cannot run with supervision even due to bugs how could you even for one moment think it is ok to run an entire CS whilst no one is around ? Please re- consider it
Sounds quite promising, but can you just let us know, how players will manage gk, when you have removed them from most of the events??
Please guide us
We have staff on Call still
we don't all disappear off the planet
That wont help ; and with the track record of bugs and issues we have in almost every season - it is really hard to believe for any one - we will just end up paying extra costs as always ..... Please do re - consider
its not from Hutch AJ..lol..only a suggestion...
Only if they heard. Otherwise I’m out from next season 🤣
I'm doubt they will..there is still team 2 to chill out..hehe..😂
Of course 😁 shout out to SK 2
So we should refer to the next season as The Purge?
All the F2P players that decide to engage with Keys, will get wiped out.
Wow, lots of Lotus events. I can’t imagine why you would have events that will have a max of 9 people in a bracket. Well, we said this game has been changed for coiners and coiners only. They took away 90% of playable events for all non coiners but are adding events for the 54 players worldwide who have the Lotus 🤷♂️.
The purge only took out a tiny percentage of total population. Removing all gold keys will drop more than 50% of players over time, super purge 😂.
I see a lot of players dropping from the club scene because RR is just going to be a casual game to fill time while their on the throne. That's just my opinion
The entire point of this game is events. Why get new cars, why upgrade them, why fuse them? Because of events. By making every event have terrible rewards they took away the one reason to play. Except for the coiners of course. If they don’t change the key disaster, a few months from now it will be maybe a hundred addicted coiners and random casual f2p.
Wow logged into this stupid game for 518 days and been here on discord for however long and realized I had to pick a role to react to a reply...... stupid @$$ noob 🤣 🤣
@hidden adder - Did you get the xmas special car ready for us? Offered in bronze key crates? 😛
Already informed T&L means Time to Leave, now Gold Key gone from regular events, Next season planned without a week's break. F2P players along with Minimum spending players who spent only on Rebel Pass only will be left with only one option "Leave".
I wonder how many rewards will be taken out of the pro pass in coming months?
Before this week, I was 50% / 50% about staying and continuing with this game. My mind has now been firmly made up. I’m going to spend less cash taking an Apple Arcade monthly pass and playing plenty of Ad free games without feeling like I’m being ripped off. What a shame this game has gone down the 🚽
I guess the whole debacle over the last several weeks taught them NOTHING!.
"Staff will be on call", "We dont disappear off the face if the Earth" ?????
I beg to differ...
You absolutely disappear off the face of the Earth. Being on call implies responding to your customers.
My head feels like it's going to explode!
I cant believe the unmitigated audacity.
Get lots of sponsors, you're gonna need them here
@hidden adder please see this and pass to team for improvement..we dont want one way communication anymore..it felt hard to express your problem in discord, but without immediate or in 2 or 3 hours reply..like i suggest previously hire a part timer to cater the alarming question in discord..train them to be competent about the game..ask them to play the game and try the beta event as much as possible..
How utterly reasonable!!! Chances of happening?
ZERO
@snow notch
I'm sure you noticed by now!
"No comment" from the "don't disappear off the face of the earth" squad.
We all know about our so many messages to them for information/ intervention last week, but no one responded. Now they don't want this forum for other than
- Managing clubs specially top 20
2 Trapping new players for these clubs "As seasons are earning times for Hutch".
I know these top club owners are very senior players and sensitive also. I sincerely request them to keep their ego aside and come to the rescue of the genuine players. If they will decide for single point, Hutch will have to listen and bend their ways of increasing the price exponentially, else they are going to loose a lot of team mates and will the heat of recruiting new players.
As long as the cash register keeps ringing Hutch will keep doing what they are doing. We could call for top teams to boycott the upcoming season or all make a gentleman's agreement to stop spending like crazy. However, we all know how that will go.
Just for one season don't run for top 20, that's all, all top 20 teams.
Yep, top 5 clubs will spend and coin even if there were zero rewards. We just have to wait for participation from non coiners to drop so low that Hutch decides to make the game playable again.
You keep targeting top clubs and their players and then expect same top clubs to come to your rescue? 😂😂😂
👆 Proof on how a boycott would go. 🤣
Oh look, another offensive and demeaning comment from a coiner, what a shocker 😱.
Reality check lol 😂 isn't it ? Lol 😂
Top to me is top 20. I'm in a top 20 club so would be part of a boycott.
How about top 20 minus 1 or 2 boycott. 🤣
@slender shoal I wasn't referring to you i was just responding to @snow notch comment above in light mode ... it's not offensive in anyway- so let's not try to stir it up 👍
Actually I already boycotted since I only bought the Pass this last season.
I coin and spend and i have no shame in admitting it and no one else should have a problem with it either. If I don't question anyone's choices no one has the right to question mine . Simple as that.
I’ve seen a coiner spend more in a single h2h than I will spend in a year. Hutch couldn’t care less about me, my club or anyone below us, we don’t spend enough. So me or my club boycotting wouldn’t matter. But I know a boycott won’t happen so the only thing we non coiners can do is just not enter any bad event. Skip everything that has bad rewards. Hopefully over time they realize their mistake.
To execute any plan there is a bigger problem, communication and personal preference. Trust me it's harder then we think to over come. I wish there was a way to get around it but it's almost impossible 😦
I could be wrong. Outside of the top 10 teams, I don’t think many players massively coin. I’m in a top 20 club and never coin ( I’ve never seen the point of buying a victory, as it defeats the purpose of enjoying the challenge of racing against other players to see who is the best). If enough players leave outside the top 10 that’s quite a bit of revenue from season passes. But if there are spend ‘addicts’ out there spending £100’s per month, then it will make on difference, unless they run out of finances (like most gamblers do).
Most gambling sites however are regulated (in the U.K.), however this appears not to be regulated in any way shape or form. I feel sorry for those who are addicted to continually spending on here. It’s an illness.
The UK actually looked at games and loot boxes to be regulated as gambling, but the lobbying from the gaming companies won out.
😂😂 don't direct to me, you can't fool @slender shoal . As I never targeted top clubs 😂😂
I’m thankful I don’t have an addictive personality. But I do know of people who have tobacco/alcohol/gambling addiction and it’s dreadful.
The issue at hand is Hutch has morphed the game to cater only to the spenders and force more to join those ranks or leave. Most of us could care less if people want to buy the season win, it's their money and choice. We just want more fair play and a way to be sustainable at reasonable price. The game has great potential but they've turned their entire focus into twisted economics vs. making it playable and enjoyable to more people. I'll say it again, happy customers will return more often and spend more. A lot us feel like we're being forced out.
Ok sorry you didn't mean you specifically ( it was more like generalised) how we are always after particular clubs / members etc. Not intended to direct it to you specifically ✊
In 100% agreement with you Hellephant, that’s why I’m leaving once the new season starts. It’s pointless continuing on with this game in its new format. I’m not addicted to playing it and I don’t have any interest in ‘coining’
Unfortunately, I have plenty of keys saved, so I can’t quit yet, I have to wait for them to get taken over the next two seasons 😭😂.
I agree f2p players are being forced out, and that's the plan - next stage is expensive p2p.
Bro , as senior , I have always complaining and suporting the all racers all racers .
What I have to do .
In my team I need to protect them .
I have student players , and retired person
They can't afford to pay always .
I am complaining to get a balance
I was muted, Banned, exclued but my heart is for the majority of players .
This is sincere , you should get in touch with my teammates, they will tell you what I am trying to do .
I know dear, a lot of owners are fighting for genuine players and I really appreciate that.
I’ve got about 900 gold keys and 1100 silver keys. I’ve got 1800 gold coins and plenty of decent cars (fused) with plenty of Augs. However I’m now completely switch off by Hutch’s approach!
They should just just stop doing it in pieces, just make it for coiners only and be done with it. No more keys or crates to get new cars. All new cars should be in app purchases only with a minimum of $10 per car.
I take it then you're okay with this, support the course of the game, and are happy a large majority of players will disappear? Not arguing just clarifying. Do you believe the game will last long like that?
If you are willing to buy the Rebel Pass, Hutch will keep you around. My guess is that this is the path for gold keys, gold, and enough rewards to keep the F2P players (of course, by definition, you are no longer F2P when paying for the Rebel Pass). Hutch wants at least $10 per month to play. In that format you will still be able to survive and keep the rest of the non-coining mantra intact for how you play.
I am not happy, I always said in my message balance was needed but the aggressive approach to do it is not justified in any way. Its a shame we have come to this point but it is what it is now 🤷♂️, i just hope Hutch gets to the comfort zone soon and this ever changing game structure comes to a stop where everyone f2p and p2p both can plan the game accordingly and progress
Make it P2P fine (which business truly wants customers who don’t buy anything?), but not so much P2W. Find a way to limit coining so that the fastest racers can win, not jokers who buy 7 refills and race slow times. It’s a racing game after all- isn’t going fast the whole point?
Absolutely, a lot of players are spending for rebel pass, but still removing gold keys, squeezing time between seasons will leave these players in want of GKs and unfortunately leaving the game, leaving the money they have spent so far.
Agree , but in order to do that the h2h algorithm will need to be changed, it will need to be balanced for all level of players , cars , do you see that happening? I don't 🤷♂️
Hutch doesnt understand:;
Listen all of the real concept .
More gold keys you give , more players will play .
Less gold keys you give , less players will play it's logical
It's like a lottery.
If you offer 1000 dollars as first place , no one will pay .
If you offer 1.000.000 dollars everyone will try his chance
Question here: the new algorithm for matching will be with %, OK, but how will.that work with the first 5 races where you dont have any prior time to compare? Thats where the issue was, will we still get those +5 impossible races?
@hidden adder still waiting for a reply
You should count the days before you receive a reply and post it here. You will get to three digits at least. They don’t have a way to fix this, otherwise they already would have (and they may not even consider it a problem the way we do - it makes a complete bastardization of the game).
You all note how Hutch has "disappeared off the face of the earth" again when REAL substance is being discussed? Thought so...🤨
I’ll keep pinging 🤣
They will appear only to drop bombs not to defuse it seems and reply to selective players, hope everyone understands 🤭 not to the players who support F2P players
How much do you have to spend to justify a reasonable response from our vaunted Hutch team?
Mathematically impossible. You only get 100 gk from the pro pass, for now but I’m guessing those will go away. With no opportunity to earn gold keys and the club cars requiring thousands over a season, it is simply impossible. The coiners take top nine, so sometimes I get a few gk from 10th, but many times I simply can’t enter because the risk of 20th is too high.
I means this in all honesty, the game right this minute is broken. It is impossible for anyone spending $10 or less to survive and participate. Zero opportunity to earn gold keys, thousands needed. Everyone should understand the game is over for you if you don’t spend hundreds to buy gk from the shop.
presumably the same as it does in the regular H2H. Your first 5 races are offered up as 10/20/30 pointers.
Where there’s a will, there’s a way. Some kind of PP matching incorporated should help. And cap the number of refills / make them progressively more expensive.
Ok where is the will ? 🙂 this is game model and how revenue is generated. I be very surprised if they even consider it. There have been many suggestions in past to get around the similar issues but none was ever considered. The game is designed to favour the spenders. And that is the reality of it 😦 we just have to try and play smart to get around it how ever possible.
Having a good mix of low-cost/low reward , mid and high cost/reward events and different models like shootout and non shoot out can also work and seems (hopefully) where we are heading. As long as the cost and rewards are reasonable for each category (by spending) of player. Let’s see.
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Reason: spam
Everything is dependent on when the team gets into comfort zone and switches it focus from balancing the game economy to improving the game experience...
Hello
I can share the concern about smurfing with the team and put forward the player suggestion about matching based on PP
Success, warned: Genesis#5222.
I'm not entertaining the way you're speaking to me. I'll answer questions where I can but I'm not going to spend time getting further into discussions when your tone is quite frankly rude.
:(
👍. Thank you. This would be a great addition if you could add PP matching (or near matching) to the algo, as well as percentage based race times, not instead of. 👍
You have to see how Hutch accumulation of communication errors, unannounced changes and sub par coding and quality control has generated a very negative mood amongst all players regardless of their playing level. If you could clarify what’s Hutch target response time that will set the expectations. I’m aware that replying to all the comments is impossible but Hutch by now should have sense that they should send someone (you?) to have an open discussion on this channel or face an exodus of players.
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lmao
nvm mod is here
lol
wanna a prove i’m not an emily?
no sorry no hablo tacos
where can i send photos?
Jajajaja como que tacos?
eh?
no irl images
#🐸│memes
if we eat tacos, but it's not a language
yeah ik i was joking
also why are you even here
do you even play the game
prove it
wanna screenshot?
I have dm's off
i cant
😐
bro i said i’m a rookie
- wrong role
- I don't think you want to know how many times I've seen garages like these
doesn’t that mean i’m a noob?
yeah i’m farming money
a noob is someone who plays a game for a decent amount of time but still fails to be called decent
newbies can't be called noobs because they just started playing the game
sorry as you can see in the screenshot i’m not inglish
oke
I see
as you can see my garage is a pure mess after 11-12 months of playing the game
yeah
now the question is when will I ever use them
I used the boss cars more than any other car
mhh at least you can flex them?
no
oh oke
there are players with way bigger and better garages
i see
some players finish Tier D within a day
I finished it after three months
part of the players finish the mainline of the game in two weeks
oh
almost a year passed and I'm still not done yet
oh
slow plays are always worthy
yeah fr
oh nice
Hi
you too
thanks
Ok
🤔
he didn‘t even give me time to explain
first he posts something in #💡│tips-and-tricks that doesn‘t help anyone at all
and second I block literally everyone that isn‘t active here
I have 6048 blocked users on my account
Did they tell us what new cars are coming next season? I’ve been assuming S and GT for T&L but I’m not sure.
Success, warned: 𝓘𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓰𝓸 𝓚𝓾𝓻𝓸𝓼𝓪𝓴𝓲 🔥✨#6723.
must be a joke because clearly it's not funny
Honestly don't even care 😒
"I block literally everyone that isn't active here"
😆
And finally it's done with 413pp ✊✊
Last race career ladder B
🥳👍
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Reason: spam links
After all you opponrnts Al not real player😉
Anyone here on the team Aussie Rebels?
Thank you 🙏
Who is doing that ??
Not really, it was supposed event on corvette Vs mustang
Lot of game are doing '' offer like 90 percent' I have seen in lot of racing game. But I don't understand why Hutch ltd is not doing the same .
Always high price , no attractive offer . Nothing can motivate even the big spender . ???
Nice things😉
Tomorrow I will receive 2 gold's keys after 560 days of daily playing .
My daily is gone and i cannot see my reward anymore but i still receive my daily reward😉
And nothing as trophies only number .
You have more than your senior mate🤣
To get 190k is only possible in H2H but no reward.
I have already mentioned this before .
No reaction from the management
After calculation everyday I am as average adding 400 trophy 🏆🏆🏆 points
190k divided by 560 days
Is almost 400 by day
What we have to do more ??
What are you waiting for ?
How to retroactive your missing reward , action , gift ....
guys what car should i buy as second car?
ford focus.
fr?
i was thinking about the bmw m2 competition
i’s a pretty good car for a good price
i don't know what 'fr' means.
fr=for real?
Everytime you asked, you need to mention car at which tier..by not mentioning it..people thought you talking about tier C car but instead you are asking for tier B car..
Did you finish this ladder with same or less pp ? 🙂
@solar vessel i cant find you on my leaderboard Adib🤔,where are you?
Not yet joining it..
Hmm🤔,...i only have KTM 2 star and of course i cannot finish yet😅. I will show you when my KTM 4 star without s6 upgrade and finish it✌️
Sure i look forward to that 👍👍
For sure my old senior👍
KTM has better handling so should be easy ✊✊
I started this game and deleted it about. Year ago I come back and. I have 2.7 mil how ?

