#THE ACOLYTE
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Then don't use it 
It's a subpar app but for those it does work for, it works.
I’ve deleted literally everything except this app and Snapchat and I only kept Snapchat to talk to my friends that have androids
Yea, lol I don't
I just use it for gaming updates straight from Devs
You can't see ANYTHING without an account now
Want to see replies to a tweet quoted by an article? Make an account.
Need to check a profile for something? Make an account.
Reddit sorta did it too with their API BS
I think a ton of websites are doing it cause of scraping
IK AI models are trained on content found on these sites
and they don't like it
The way that hardly stops them though considering bot accounts still somehow manage to scrape data.
TBH, it feels like every platform will have some sort of AI equivalent anyway lol
Most content on said platform is user generated so I reckon the platforms themselves seem to think they own it anyway.
As for the bot accounts I doubt they will ever be rid of them, they are allowed cause it shows the shareholders inflated usage numbers for said platform, so keep the bots around.
Shitty part is that all three aspects will effect the User experience negatively, bots create sludge which the shitty algorithm pushes, AI means there will be even more bot generated content, and lastly ads that they peddle which mostly turn into scams but they still do it cause $$$
inb4 facebook legit peddles misleading ads and stalks you tooth and nail to serve you the most "personalized" invasive stuff
Real.
Dead Internet Theory isn't a Theory anymore.
FB legit is now full of pages that post AI generated images where the comments are the most generic brain rot imaginable
Tiktok is full of sludge content like this and Gen-Z (no offence) is too stupid
Big tech are just glorified grifters in my eyes rn anyway
if you want a clear answer for a problem in google search, they show some irrelevant dogshit
it is a nightmare if you don't have adblocker too
other times it is just legit 100% scam
I love this cat so much, I hope he is having a great sleep
"And here we can see the majestic Jecki Penguin in their natural habitat, albeit a bit far from their flock"
Sol's got some interesting boots
People online “the Jedi did nothing wrong in this show”
Jedi in the show casually committing genocide
i much prefer the jedi being this way. infallable heros get boring
Yeah, I like that they’re not perfect and make costly mistakes.
And have done since their inception but people apparently confused that all the time XD
Dude
I was fine with the witch coven, the vergeance, the bad acting of Mae and Osha, but dammit not Sol.
I’d give it a B minus too. It wasn’t that great. It had a good beat it went to. Writing was ok overall, but man. I just can’t get over Sol’s death.
Sol's story is a decent example of "the road to hell is paved with good intentions"
I wouldn't exactly say that they went out of their way to commit an ethnic cleansing of the coven, it was a result of Indara forcing the witches out of Kalnacca's mind and the electrical fire that Mae started getting way out of control and exploding old mining equipment
I completely agree with you
They didn’t really go out of their way. They misunderstood what was going on and the twin’s point of view was very clouded. There was definitely some dark side fuckery. I probably would have done the same thing as Sol when Anisenya did the dark cloud shit
I think having it end with his death and all blame placed on him, while unfortunate, does help to show the rippling effects that he caused himself. There can be arguments made for his actions being selfless at points or "for the good of the order," but believing himself to be deserving of a padawan and attempting to take Osha away from her family does show that deep down, he is selfish. And that's a good thing! Characters should have flaws, we've seen countless times that mark and mary sues get boring after a while. having flaws like Sol's and despite being a protagonist, getting consequences for their actions is refreshing, even if it does piss us off every now and then
2/5 Stars
Show is quite "mid" in my opinion tbh.
The plot is good but executed poorly, I had seen the leaks of the show beforehand and I was excited about it. But actually watching the show it seems they skimp out on a lot of important story beats or beat around the bush. The whole story about the Jedi and them being complicit was a good start but it could've been done better, it is a bit rash when you have a trigger happy Jedi who just goes ballistic at the first sign of danger.
The witches weren't fleshed out enough at all and we still don't have answers to what exactly the ritual was, and the one liner from SOL in the finale about them being a single person was kind of disappointing, it would've been better if it was shown not told. I am not a fan of so much dangling a carrot type of story telling where most of the episodes felt like filler, only good episodes were Episode 4,5 and Finale. It seems they stretched out the story a bit too much to tell irrelevant things.
They had a good idea overall, but the pacing was quite off so I felt like most of the episodes were kind of pointless, maybe they cut episodes to make them shorter so that they could have more episodes all together?
My rating for The Acolyte
It suffers from Kenobi, Falcon and the Winter Soldier, and Hawkeye's "we turned a movie script into six to eight episodes"
Well Kenobi felt pointless to me but I agree, it should've been a film.
Falcon and Winter was ok imo but they aren't titular flagship characters so I guess it works for them.
Hawkeye was kinda bad, idk why people like it
Because Hailee Steinfeld is in it 😍
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hawkeye was at least good in that kate bishop actually has a character
everything they say about ironheart, miss marvel, and what every they cant say about kate hawkeye
shame they didn't pay the comic artist who did the series it was based on though
Ms. Marvel was good
well not good
lol
it was ok
but it was more of a fun thing instead of a serious thing
it didn't feel moving the universe forward it sort of felt like to me like a christmas special
miss marvel was a good show in that it can be relatable for some people, and its not world ending stakes like fucking most other marvel movies released at the same time
still iffy on the nature of her powers though
But going back to The Acolyte I liked Sol, Qimir, Jecki, Yord but didn't care much about OSHA and Mae
sucks that Amandla's acting is kinda muted in Acolyte, she was great in Bodies Bodies Bodies
She is a very good actress
i legit didnt realize amandla was the lead character until half way through because she looks so different in character
granted it also probably doesn't help that their explanation for the twins is "1 person split in 2" which could lead to the directing choices for her acting?
Maybe they just wanted to cheap out. /j
The lead actress was good imo
the issue wasn't with her
my main issue was with storycrafting and worldbuilding
in short it felt like a fanfilm
She was definitely interesting as a character but the process (especially how 1 became 2) was not fleshed out at all, the episode with the witches focused on purely the incorrect things. Most importantly why?
the story felt simple.
they took an adult orientated show and aimed the story at kids
would've worked well as a TCW arc lmao
but not today
esp not for a show as big as this
eh. i think once you look at it through that lens a lot of the issues go away.
we want to think its for us but its not
Star Wars really needs to get the Deadpool treatment
get some WAR in these stars
i wouldn't mind it.
but they'd get the shit treatment from parents because how dare disney have an r rated show on their service that my kid might watch when i'm not paying attention
They need to stop with this live-action nonsense
BoBF, Kenobi, Ahsoka and now Acolyte shows that their writing is lacking except nostalgia bait (Acolyte didn't even have any and look at how that turned out)
Go back to Animated shows
and develop them gradually to become more dark
well they can just Once Upon a Deadpool it and make a censored PG-13 cut lol
that was garbage 😄
Isn't the Saw franchise on D+ now lmao?
hot steaming garbage
its on hulu. which d+ has integrated slightly
and parents were losing their shit over it
it's hilarious ngl
as a parent myself. seeing other people being mad because the tv isn't parenting their kids enough is dumb
like accept some responsibility for your ineptness
lmao yea I'm honestly glad my parents kept to the "rating systems are for the ages they say on the chart" until like 16 or whatever
I really wish Ahsoka were better. Like don't get me wrong I still thoroughly enjoyed it but I'm completely aware of its shortcomings and for that I will not be forgiving the current Star Wars team.
Sabine deserved more.
More fucking context to her character.
ahsoka suffered from too much of "if you didn't watch rebels"
dude posts an openly racist meme and then slaps a watermark on it
What the hell.
Honestly it should've been promoted as Rebels Season 5 rather than saying it could stand alone.
an unfortunate side effect of the "marvel-ification" of SW. everything has to be connected, and if you didn't watch one, you're missing out on a lot of context
that can be really problematic for writing teams
They failed to adequately portray Sabine as Force-attuned and portrayed her as flatly disconnected from the Force when that was never the case.
Creating the inevitable storm of "Sabine was the first non-Force sensitive to gain Force Abilities" like NO BITCH THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN THERE.
<--- mad at the fandom for being terrible at analyzing
<--- mad at the writers for enabling said shit analysis
You too can get the force if you try hard enough!
That's what people now believe, thanks Ahsoka show.
just pull yourself up by ya bootstraps, get a lightsaber in hand and there ya go! force powers
When the reality is that Sabine has never been not-Force-sensitive and should have been depicted as blocked off.
This
YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO ANYHTING, THE GALAXY DOESN'T OWE YOU ANYTHING
how much is your podracer
They should've casted a character actor
shoulda hired alan tudyk/j
2 slaves and a brisket of Krayt dragon
I saw one that was like my favorite characters in the boys and it was Tek Knight (hates BLM) Storm front (do I need to explain) and the dude who shot black people in season 3
She's amazing in edge of seventeen, I love her
surpised they didn't add firecracker or whatever her name is in
I would give this show a C or a D tbh, my opinion has really soured on it
She's a woman who isn't openly a Nazi like stormfront was
It gets a passing grade, but I'd make it stay behind after class to let it know that they need to work harder and all that jazz
^ well said
not the place for that discussion but i'd think stormfront until the end seemed normal to everybody else.
She was hiding her power level I imagine
Blue Hawk?
I need to rewatch the first 3 seasons
the one ||A-Train ran with his face on the pavement||
Yeah that guy, it's been awhile since I watched s3, it was a fever dream for me
Yes
I was hella depressed when I watched it and I don't remember much besides Jensen Ackles being a gigachad (bad person)
Tek Knight was ||so wasted in this season, no armour no fights no nothing, just some rich old racist dude, who runs a prison system||
I understand that sentiment
truly amazing how they managed to make something from the comics better than the show
I liked his ||goon cave though||
Soldier Boy in one sentence
oh I meant that tek knight is somehow better in the comics than in the show. idk about saying the same about soldier boy
I misread you lol
Soldier Boy is better in the show
oh 100% not a very hard goal to beat though
Real
If they have one miss though, that's still a very good boast
But yeah I'm not sure how'd I'd rank acolyte compared to the other shows, but I think it's below Ahsoka
I think BoBF is worse, but I'm not sure if Kenobi is worse. I don't like Kenobi because it felt like a huge contrivance that offered not much substance
I still can't get over the fact that out of the several D+ shows that have come out "recently," Andor, the one nobody really expected to do well has been the most politically charged and SW-like out of all of them
Um, actually Andor is not star wars because it doesn't have lightsabers
(Insert comment about building materials)
it also focused on what made star wars star wars
Nah I love Andor
The only thing I could've wanted more out of s1 was to actually see Sly Moore, but that's 100% a nitpick
good thing we get a season two
I kinda like krennic, he's so pathetic it's somewhat enjoyable
You know what I find funny, the actor who played Skeen is also in the Bear, and both Bear and Andor absolutely cook
And the bear is about a restaurant
Glad that actor (I wish I knew his name off the top of my head) is getting to play The Thing
Ebon Moss-Bachrach
That's the guy
I just looked him up and holy crap Marvel fulfilled my desire to have a Jewish actor play Ben Grimm, Marvel W
they would have been eaten alive by FF fans if they hadn't i think
As they should
Nando V Movies had a really solid video showcasing why Grimm should be played by a Jewish actor, I don't remember if he specifically fan casted Bachrach though
After ruminating on it a little more, I can agree. It shows that the infallible no attachments does have its issues and that Sol himself strayed from the Jedi philosophy. All of his actions, even if arguably good, were ultimately selfish and nothing good comes from selfish acts masked in “good.” He had a complete story even though I wished he could have kept going.
I still don’t fully understand the overall message and story beat since the overall narrative isn’t very cohesive?
it was a who done it murder mystery.
I think the issue with the story is it probably shouldn’t have been a “mystery” story. I think if they rearranged it to where we knew more it most likely would have been a better story.
the viewpoint changes are a style of movie that was popularized by a specific japanese movie that i cannot recall right off the bat
thats the point of it though.
where you discover different things through different lenses
I agree. I don’t know how to fully articulate what it’s missing.
It wasn’t as bad as everyone made it out to be and I definitely think it was better for me to sit and watch it all in one go and digest.
Rashomon was the film.
I’ll have to watch it but I just read a synopsis and it’s almost 1-1
right. its part of the alure of this style. as you discover new characters to the story you get more information which changes the original thought of what the story actually was
Other than Sol, I don’t really like the Mae/Osha twin story.
The Jedi grasping to keep their status is interesting and the road to their downfall seems more apparent.
I still don’t know if Qimir is the original Ren or a Sith, but I’m leaning towards Ren.
The plagueis throw in was kind of cheap.
The hinted at romantic relationship between Osha and Qimir is gross.
The overall witches subplot with the Jedi is just frustrating and I understand that that is the point.
I kind of see that overall the Jedi’s hero complex was the overall issue of the story especially for Sol.
My pre-Anakin lore is off but it seems that there hasn’t really been conflict at all and I am assuming the quickness of the Jedi to pull out their sabers is to illustrate all of it.
i dont' think quimir/osha was so much romantic as it was him trying to get an emotion out of her that wasn't complete distrust. a disarming if you will
I read about them getting rid of a kissing scene.
again. i don't think it was romantic in nature. it was a means for quimir to get a reaction.
I hope it doesn’t go into a romantic subplot if there is a season 2. Master and apprentice romance plots are always just gross to me.
i agree there 100%
My only assumption is their pseudo hand holding of the lightsaber at the end
I have a hard time seeing them take an actual romance subplot route, unless it's for the purpose of emotional manipulation, which seems to be more implied anyways
dear god i hope they don't make it a reylo repeat
There is a rey and Kylo romance?
I stopped a quarter of the way through the last Jedi
gotcha so you didn't see Rise of Skywalker then i take it
Nope. I don’t intend to either
yeaaaaa, they do an 11th hour redemption for kylo and then towards the end they kiss before one of them dies (I think you can imagine who)
at least it looks decent visually for the most part
The death of Luke was it for me
the whole of the sequels was just a redo of the og with a different skin
Doesn’t the sequel trilogy (granted I have not seen it) detract from the overall story of Anakin and his impact on bringing balance to the force?
eh. depends. but also the prophecy stuff never really made sense anyways
Sol armor arrived
With that y’all I’m going back on my discord hiatus
Y’all make me want to spend too much money
I don’t think Mae/Osha were written in a way that made them feel powerful enough to carry the show, what was worse the actress I felt underperformed the parts.
I think something like how Oscar Isaac did Moon Night might have worked, but toned down a bit, we needed more visual division and powerful performances between the twins at certain points.
Their final fight felt uncomfortable to watch for some reason.
I think Sol’s arc was good, he very nearly killed Mae when he was chasing her in that planetary ring, and that would’ve allowed him to continue hiding the truth from Osha.
Fuckin called it! I'm very pleased that my theory turned out to be correct
Winter Soldier moment
Hi all, anyone know where I could buy a nice quality Qimir helmet?
This is the only one I know of so far https://www.hasbropulse.com/product/star-wars-the-black-series-the-stranger-electronic-helmet/G07055L00
wtf that reply was like instant
It's sold out lol
bbts has it on pre order but theyre also notorious for pushing back pre orders indefinitely
they mentioned it in another chat and I told them to come here lol
https://www.amazon.com/STAR-WARS-Stranger-Electronic-Roleplay/dp/B0D73WTJGX instock on amazon for preorder
Reimagine iconic scenes from in the Star Wars saga -- and create your own -- with Star Wars helmet and Lightsaber™ adult roleplay items! This helmet is detailed to look like The Stranger’s helmet from the Star Wars: The Acolyte live-action series on Disney+, and is an impressive addition to any S...
Don't ever buy from BBTS they will make everything preordered
The only issue I have with the Black Series helmet is the eyes are wider for user visibility
Ahhh I see
I was trying to find a review of someone who has it irl
But that simply doesn’t exist yet
I’ll wait a bit then
well i mean, would you really expect an actual sensory deprivation chamber helmet?
mid september
Considering most of Black Series tries to be screen accurate, kinda?
At the same time they don't want wearers to get hurt
look on the bright side
its not like this
That's a $45 kids toy
The Clone and Boba Fett voice changer toys also do this (as seen above)
speaking of iron man, looking for the stranger helmet just caused me to drop $100 for this newly annoucned iron man lol https://www.hasbropulse.com/product/marvel-legends-series-iron-man-mark-85-premium-electronic-helmet/F90165L00
See, THAT is the collector's product
Check the year
sheesh, its the same on hasbro's site
I guess it makes sense being a brand new helmet with no molds they can slightly adjust and use
3D prints gonna sell fast
Quick side note. New holocrons and crystals came in today
where did you get the holocrons and crystals
tried on the galaxys edge discord first. looks like they still have some of the cheapest prices but my card doesnt work with paypal for some reason.
for this purchase i went through etsy. this seller specifically: https://www.etsy.com/ca/shop/OuterRimOutfittersUS?ref=shop-header-name&listing_id=1249837651&from_page=listing
there may be other places online though that have better prices
I have those books, they’re fantastic.
lol
people are funny.
The perfect reply doesn't exi.......
Wonder how many people got on his ass that the acolyte isn’t canon XD
Also, fym "bleeding doesn't happen like that" we've never seen it in live action they can do their own thing.
me when i don't watch the properties I enjoy and hate anything new
not to mention. like were seeing it in media that is legitimately canon. it would be different if it was auxiliary media but if were seeing it here yes it absolutely does happen like that XD
its not a bad thing to expand on one method. it doesnt take away from anything previously. all that stuff still stands just heres another way to do it
but the community seems to think "no this is the only way this can be done."
Where is that post where someone said that the Force isn't one-size-fits-all?
The bleeding was kinda goofy in this show, but ||Dagan Gera literally does a bleeding as effortlessly as Osha did||
Hiding since some people haven't played survivor
And people loved ||Dagan Gera bleeding his saber||.
I found it a little jarring how ||he literally gets out and says “hang on let me reskin my lightsaber to be evil real quick”||
Am I the only one who sees his saber to be a bit more lighter orange rather than red?
Yeah
It's more like the "blood orange" in SWTOR
Dagan's is close to Baylen and Shin's sabers
Maybe I need to replay the game, but outside of his intro, it looks more red to me
I thought it was red too, but it could be my color settings. I kind of like there being a link to the Ahsoka dark side sabers.
Remember really far back in the EU when sometimes yellow was considered a Darksider color? I could've sworn that EvanNova95 made a video about yellow at one point being a dark side color. Or maybe it was originally what a purified red crystal was?
I don't think it was so much yellow was a dark side color, more just that dark siders weren't restricted to red until TPM came out
in Dark Forces the darksiders used blue, yellow, purple etc
and in some of the 1998ish comics pre TPM a bunch of jedi used red lightsabers
Leia had a red one in the NJO
Well in the EU the Color’s weren’t always denoting light or dark side
Didn't Adi Gallia have a red one in something?
Yea Adi Gallias was red in the pre TPM comic runs
And I believe it was warb bull who had a green saber
There's a great panel from one of those comics where a bunch of aliens break into the jedi temple and the jedi are waiting for them with lightsabers drawn. There are tonnes of unique colours, lots of different hues of blue, green, orange, purple etc
kind of sad that got lost when George decided jedi were blue or green and sith red
I legitimately hate how over used green and blue are. What ever they do with Rey’s order I HOPE they have different Color’s than just those two
Yellow, purple, teal, a light orange preferably.
White even
found the panel
I get the sense they're moving that direction. More yellow in Acolyte, dark orange in Ahsoka, white in Ahsoka. They're drip feeding us more live action colors.
Here’s hoping
Bro I want them to have teal, cyan, indigo and even pink
Minor nitpick of mine is that there wasn't lighter shades of green, yellowish green (like Ahsoka shoto) or teal and cyan in this show
evan peele and depa billaba with red sabers
I could see it happening. Honestly, despite what some corners of the internet would have you believe, I think the creators of these newer shows not only love Star Wars, they love some of the EU stuff, and they seem to be working a bunch of it back into canon.
Cortosis, Bonadan, Tynanns, Abeloth, more varied saber colors, etc.
while i'd love to see colors of sabers mean nothing other than thats what the holder wanted. they have to mean something so there needs to be some rules since bleeding is a thing.
Interesting that yodas up here like “got in pretty easy, won’t be leaving alive though”
So dooku once mentioned how he thought of obiwan like a grandson, and from what I understand it’s fairly normal for Jedi to form familial relationships like that. That moment when you realize Caleb dume was the “grandson” of mace windu
Like, the master of your master is grandpa?
Essentially yes
Gotcha. I hadn't put that together before.
I believe ahsoka thought of anakin like an older brother
That makes sense to me, since it seems that Anakin and Obi-Wan's relationship seemed more brotherly as well.
And I think quigon was the potential father figure of anakin and obiwan
I can see that. Anakins age makes his relationships make sense in that way.
Obiwan definitely, anakin maybe only because of how short a time they really knew eachother. Idk how long it was between them meeting and quigons death.
Didn’t revenge of the sith take place over like a couple months? Apparently not
About an hour and a half.
I'm not sure, it feels like at takes place over like a week, but that can't be right.
Apparently it takes place over the course of 4 days
But padme doesn’t look 9ish months pregnant when they first meet in the movie XD
No, she really doesn't. Maybe that's just because Natalie Portman is a very petite woman?
That's grasping at straws for sure, haha.
Maybe. The choice of robes for clothes might help too
That actually could help.
One thing I love. People are looking to the EU for why stuff in the acolyte is bad. Then when I bring up the dumb stuff from the eu people saying how it’s not canon so it doesn’t matter XD
EU apparently only matters when you want it too
There is no war in Ba Sing Se. There has always been war in Ba Sing Se.
If only he had a purple lightsaber 😞
Seems like they REALLY didn’t want to give anyone else a purple saber
Kelleran is supposed to have a purple saber too but here they gave him green in mando 3
I think they didn't even really want to give Mace Windu a purple saber. Samuel L. Jackson specifically asked for it.
He is?
Yep
Interesting
Yeah Kellnacca still has the best saber IMO
So Jecki and Torbin have a similar lightsaber but there's different ribbing on Torbin's
Yes
yippeee more SW ponchos
Man, I want to be inside the con itself so bad. At least I'll be outside in costume tomorrow evening.
It did not occur to me that that could be considered a poncho
Have fun, wish I could be there
One day I'll attend an SDCC or one of the big popular cons like Dragon
I live here, and have never actually attended the con. Tickets are too expensive, and too difficult to get ahold of. That's why I just wander outside, so I can see some of the costumes and stuff at least.
How much does a ticket usually cost lol
Claim your "I was here before Nonemi made Qimir's poncho and called it a boyfriend jacket" card here.
IT'S ALL LEATHER
BLACK LEATHER
In this economy and global warming??
Yeahhhhh
Trying to determine what's more expensive: Qimir's cloak or Kylo's cape in TLJ and TROS
Maybe it's the light, but the lower portion of the cloak looks to be fabric
Depends on the day (or days) that you want to go. For a 4 day pass, I think it's around 400 per person, but they're only on sale at specific times the previous fall, and you have to sign up for the member portal, then wait in an online queue, then you get a 15 min window to purchase badges for up to 3 people.
Maybe it's not leather? Maybe it's like a rubberized fabric.
Costume designer confirmed it's leather
Well then yeah, that'll suck if you want a totally accurate getup.
She said the 'vest' (tunic) is also leather
That would get so damn warm. Especially this weekend (currently 92°F)
This has been me all week, in the non climate controlled shop I work in.
And I'm planning on layers for tomorrow evening. I think I'm broken, haha.
Jeez
The per day cost is like 80 bucks, but there are specific things that happen on specific days, so if you don't want to miss anything, the 4 day is the best bet.
That was about the cost for the local con
(though I got in for $35 because of 501st hehe)
Someday I'll go, and be part of a costuming group that gets discounts, haha.
Unsure if 501st gets a discount at SDCC
Honestly, doubt it. SDCC is so huge, it's likely they don't really do discounts. I'm just lucky I live close enough to take the trolley from my house to downtown, so that's lodging and transportation I don't have to worry about.
Why do people always assume that because something is different in one media it means it’s changing it in another media
Because depending on how they take it, they’ve only engaged with the media at a very surface level analysis and refused to delve deeper into it, choosing to bring it up as a “gotcha” in online arguments or getting mad about “woke virus ruining everything” also seeing headlines for something being like “NEW DESIGN FOR [insert character here] HAS TAKEN INTERNET BY STORM” and refusing to read any further can mean they just assume it’s gonna spread or something
Also “changing my nostalgia trips = bad”
Yeah, mostly surface level understanding, but also a basic level of understanding of literature and text as a whole.
NAH
He looks like he got stung by an entire colony of wasps in the face
Someone should put this filter on Padawan Mog
Been using this lately
i just want to let you know that im going to take this
Go ahead, I took it from the internet also
I’m genuinely surprised that I’m seeing more support than negativity about the acolyte now that it’s over in comments sections addressing it
Sort of makes you think that a lot of the negativity while it was airing was only meant to drive views.
I have been avoiding acolyte videos, the only ones I want to look at are Remnicore's one and then maybe a Sheev Talks video cause I know he's a genuine person
generation tech and star wars explained seem to be some of the better people for it.
unfortunately my main facebook account is flooded with articles on it but i dont comment there bcause my family will read all thje comments i make and will judge me on what i say about it. meanwhile my alt where i can say what i like has literally nothing but dumb flat earth conspiracy theory videos
Chuds moved on. There’s other things to get mad about and Acolyte is done so more clout from hating on that. Idk what the next target is, but it’ll probably be Sag-Aftra game strike next, and they’ll complain about DEI causing them to “delay muh vidya games”
Agreed, though as much as I want to watch his "we answered your acolyte questions" I just can't compel myself to listen to stuff talking about the broader canon
am i the only one who thought it ended almost perfectly?
i thought it wrapped up sol's story and left enough to start a new one if needed.
it resolved all the issues people were so quick to point out initially
canonizing plagueis and destroying the “oh ki adi mundi should have known the sith existed” arguments felt so nice to see
i think it was nice to see a lot of the arguments from people put to rest as the show went on. as it's supposed to happen.
but also. its star wars. if there aren't continuity errors or minor plot holes then what are we actually watching?
what do you mean? George's Star Wars is a Cinematic Masterpeice of the highest proportions!
I must have fallen and hit my head. I apologize.
Lucas' best films were just copying the homework of other directors anyway or movies he wasn't actually that involved in
They wrapped the twin storyline by some random, unestablished mind wipe power??? That’s not wrapped at all sheesh
The twins current lives wasn't the story line.
What happened in the past when they were kids was the story line.
I mean. The current was part of it. But the mind wipe was a set up for the next.
And already existed in Star Wars media, though non canonically, I think. Revan was similarly mind wiped in KOTOR.
He had something similar happen. Amnesia of some sort. Which allowed him to switch sides
I thought the Jedi basically mind wiped an unconscious Revan to convince him to switch sides, and forget his Sith actions. It's been a while since I last played KOTOR, though
The extended Revelation cutscene of KOTOR, complete with a meeting with Darth Malak.
Ive never played it.
Yea the Jedi wiped his mind and sent him back out there as some random republic grunt
Kind of not the greatest plan
When did they make good plans?
pretty much never
the council during the KOTOR era were pretty useless. Especially Vrook
Fuck Vrook
1 point for Azrael Savage, for being technically correct. The best kind of correct. 😆
Sorry but you didn’t say um actually so we can’t award you the point/j
Boo-urns.
The mind wipe works in KOTOR because there’s foreshadowing. The Stranger just “reveals” he can do it, and the sisters just agree. Although at least that snap decision was foreshadowed by the earlier unearned, snap decision by Mae to switch sides…
I mean there doesn't need to be foreshadowing that he can do these things.
There was a point in every show where something happened without anybody knowing it could happen.
Imo it does when it alters the plot in such a dramatic and sudden way. Literally 10 seconds of him mind tricking someone or something was all that was needed.
Instead it comes off as a writer cop out/deus ex machina
Qimir mentions it in episode 2
Qimir tha Hutt
One throw away line 6 episodes before ain’t gonna do it
Okay.
Is… is that not kinda the whole point of Jedi mind tricks at this point? Either they fail and then the Jedi have to find out other ways around their problems or it’s an immediate cop out for writing purposes?
Its a means to get her to a point where she forgets it all. She could have bumped her head and it would have made sense too. But it's star wars. So let's do things with the force.
It really doesn't need to be explained because the how of her getting there doesn't actually matter to the story. At least that's my opinion. I'm going to leave it at that.
We know the ability exists (thanks to ep 2) so yeah
And Qimir is a powerful dude so he knows it
Why do we as the audience need to know everything anyways?
Just like in real life, shit comes up when it's needed, not "just because".
Except if you are a math or science person
Yeah.
Also as lame as a cop out as it can be, we’re talking about a franchise with countless entries. Of course they’re gonna pull from other parts of the ip to use for their plot, and assume that people might already know it exists.
Didn't TESB create Force Pull for the first time out of the blue?
Phantom menace did the speed.
ROTJ did Force Lightning
Hell, force push, a now staple of Jedi force moves, wasn’t introduced until TPM
Am I the only one who remembers a version of phantom menace where they didn’t have force speed?
Honestly the fact that push pull and telekinesis are “separate” powers is kind bullshit
Nah man trust me, got some old ass dvds, watched them recently. Bam, force speed there. I definitely never noticed it was a thing until like Fallen order came out, but it’s a thing for sure
I remember having a VHS of the movie that didn’t have it I swear
Yes I’m that old that I remember VHS
Don’t worry I’m like 22 I grew up with VHS. My mom used to fast forwards past Inigo Montoya killing the six fingered man whenever we watched Princess bride cause it was “too violent” at the time
Unestablished? So rebels and clone wars never happened? Okay
Kinda weird but alright
@potent cape refresh my memory when the Force was used to erase memory
I don't watch stuff twice often and Star Wars is no exception so I forget things
Clone wars; mortis arc. Father yeets everyone's memory of what happened.
Rebels; Kanan makes some people forget that there were jedi on lothal, I think?
Mortis Gods are gods, should they count?
the Father made Anakin forget what the Son showed him
If people can use the force to create life, resurrect people, exist beyond death; then yeah I reckon if the gods can yeet a memory so can people
Didn’t anakin put his hands up and like control both siblings at some point or something like that with the force? So who’s to say how “godlike” these gods are as well
Also if you use the force to mind trick someone and be like 'hey you didn't see us' is that not making them forget they saw you?
Plot twist, mind tricks aren’t actually a thing and everyone it seems to work on just has really bad ADHD
Listen, I don't need you to call me out like this...
dune is one of the most confusing movies to watch if you want "foreshadowing" for everything
and yet, it's hailed as a cinematic masterpiece
it's not really deus ex machina because it's setting up a new problem for the next season
It's quite apparent that people don't read anymore.
I think a lot of people just bury their faces in their phones and read short sharp articles from various outlets, tarnishing their bias and fuelling their hatred.
It needs a lot.
Painting, weathering, denting, the whole nine yards. I'd be curious about accuracy too.
But it's not bad.
How will that mechanism work
Definitely, though there was that one shot of the saber where it looks more matte
Is it just me or is the Darkwolf model's split point higher up on the hilt?
I think it is.
Probably that way to ensure a proper chassis on the dagger part
I wonder though, do these sabers have a different chassis than the typical LGT saber?
Oh I guess Darkwolf also has a Vernestra lightsaber too
Comparisons of the hilt after he detaches the shoto and the Darkwolf model
And then the mystery makers 3d model. I think Darkwolf added an extra thing to the shoto end to fit a chassis in there.
The last "ring" on the main hilt has been added to the shoto on the Darkwolf model, shortening the main hilt, and lengthening the shoto.
That is where the split seems to be in the screen accurate model. Not a big deal, just an analysis. I might pick this up for a play hilt
Yep. The split, to be show accurate, is that seam you circled is.
I totally understand why they did it the way they did, I think they wanted to be able to use 2 of the same chassis.
Yeah exactly
But hey, at least we can get screen accurate at Galaxy's edge when they make them
I'm looking forward to seeing folks custom make one of these with more film accurate proportions
I could see someone using Sabertrio's system
Now that they have the mini core from the Aria
Oooh, that'd be a great idea. That core for the shoto, with a twist lock connection to the main hilt would be awesome.
What I'm curious about darkwolf's hilt is how the shoto ignites, cause it doesn't seem to have a button
There's either a button on the side facing away from the camera, or, if I was designing it, the ignition would be on the bottom, near the d ring.
Having the button on the d ring would be interesting
Could've had that ring be a sleeve that telescopes over the shoto more like Shadowfoil is doing
I like shadow foils a lot
Now that I think about, I really want to see Sabertrio tackle a splitting saber. ?Maybe not identical to Qimir's, but something else to use that Aria power core on
I genuinely wonder how short/small a Chassis could be.
Qimir's concealed dagger hilt is shorter than most Shotos we've seen basically ever both in canon and in real life.
Got the husband's soundfont for my lightsaber.
It's shorter than Palpatine's lightsabers?
It looks to be that way, yes.
I'd have to rewatch the scenes of course but to my memory his dagger hilt was as long as his hand is wide.
Interesting
Leave it to @weary sable to be the one analyzing Qimir’s hand dimensions
It was less his hand and more the fact that his dagger hilt was overwhelmingly short.
Like I was surprised at the length and I'm an avid lover of saber shotos.
QIMIR'S FONT IS SO COOL.
BOYFRIEND FONT GO BRRRR
WAIT
NO THAT'S RIGHT WE'RE MARRIED
HUSBAND FONT
depends what you all have in it.
18350 and a pancake speaker can be pretty small
oh definitely. 60mm is most likely about as short as you can get. so long as you have a 25mm or larger id
@weary sable did you get ksith or kyberphonics version? I'm thinking his font is what I want to use for my OC just a very classic very deep slightly unstable sounding font
I got the Kyberphonic.
Do note that I asked and Kyberphonic confirmed that the individual parts of the "Power of Many" Bundle are not for sale.
The Power of Many Bundle is being sold exclusively as a Bundle.
If you only want the Qimir font, I suggest another font maker like KSith or JuanSith's version.
@weary sable honestly it's worth it to buy the bundle even if you only plan on using one font to start all of the fonts from acolyte are so good!
Yeah ik which is why I bought it.
Considering the bundle is 20 bucks for like what, 7 fonts?
It's a steal.
Yords is really good honestly I’ve been using that one a lot
Oh what I’m red now
Is this how my dark side arc begins
Howuch of a role do we think plagueis is going to end up playing in the series? For those that haven't seen the article it was confirmed that that was who was hiding in the cave when qimir and Osha headed to his ship
There's honestly no telling.
Every day I wake up and get to hear the sweet, sweet sound of my husbando's lightsaber soundfont.
Okay, so the shoto is just slightly longer than the width of his hand (still probably the shortest shoto we've seen), and the "main hilt" is a little shorter than a regular saber.
With a minimal chassis you could definitely do 2 sound boards. To bad we haven't figured out truly extending and retracting blades yet like the one used on the Disney cruise
The chassis for the shoto would have to be like 2 inches lengthwise.
Or smth like that, but then again I've seen some pretty small chassis.
IDR who's saber she was holding and don't know if the actress just has small hands but the hilts seemed really large to me diameter wise when I saw Osha holding one
They were large
I wonder why they made that choice. It sort of makes sense canon wise I guess end of high republic power supplies may not have been as small as we see in the prequel trilogy creating a need for larger diameter hilts
Because they wanted the battery pack and VFX radio controller all inside the hilts, instead of tucked up the actors sleeves like they did for past projects
it makes a lot of sense all round. It just sucks for us specifically as lightsaber fanatics
You would think with the budget Disney has and what we as hobbyists can do with proffie that production would just use a bunch of proffie pixel sabers and over lay clearer audio in post.
It's not audio control, it's lighting control
"BuT wE hAvE BluEToOtH ProOfIes" that shit has only enough range for 20 feet, a sound stage is massive
Lighting team want to control EVERY light source on set
And even the audio would suck because it'd be either too quiet or too loud depending where the mic is, and Bluetooth audio would have lag.
There's a reason performance groups like Saber Guild still use pre-recorded audio played over speakers.
I'm pretty sure that's what shows like acolyte do as well and for the lighting are you saying they adjust brightness and color and all that stuff on the fly during a shot? The only reason I even knew they were using lighted blades is because of some of the behind the scenes stuff I've seen otherwise I would have assumed they were still doing blades in post
They've been doing them "on the fly" since Mando
Sequels had lit blades just for backlighting on the actors
Huh I had no idea
It's a lot easier to have practical light sources on a set than it is to digitally paint in a light source and all the reflections and indirect light it would cast.
I also have a working theory that Disney specifically was OK making the hilts thicker in the Acolyte so that when they inevitably start selling them at Galaxy's Edge, they'll be able to say they are screen accurate.
The graflex replicas at Disney are barely bigger than actual graflexes
Qimir's arms are huge...
Is a Graflex as thick as Qimir's biceps?
@lone coral I feel the bonks will never work on this one. They have been booked so much as to become immune lmao
RAAAAAAAAAGH
Lol... Nice
Anyone see the Nielson Numbers for Acolyte?
I have not. Do Nielsen numbers still matter in the age of streaming?
Not sure, but eckhart's Ladder put out a video about it. Acolyte's numbers were on the lower end
I'm not terribly surprised. The show got some very bad press during its run, and likely drove away people who may have enjoyed it.
So the bleeding thing...
Kylo ren bleeds his really fuckin fast and pours a shit load of force energy into it with very little control, which is why it cracks, and probably why it was so violent
The two effortless bleeds we've seen, Dagan and Osha, both happened relatively quickly, but also were done by people with a bond with the crystal in one way or another, dagan's is y'know, his own, and sol was osha's master, they have a bond, the crystal has a bond with sol, transitive property y'know?
Idk, just something that made vague sense while I watched the scene for the first time
I could see that. I also think Kylo's cracked because he wasn't truly committed to the dark side. He said as much in TFA, that he feels the pull to the light. So, he did put a ton of Force energy into his bleed, but he was also conflicted, and that may have caused it the crystal to become unstable and crack.
And the Sol/Osha bond is a good thought about how she was able to bleed hers so quickly, but she is also feeling a profound sense of betrayal by the person she trusted most, and that incredible pain and rage, along with her very manner of creation, I'm sure helped that crystal bleed very easily.
Also, Dagan's isn't exactly without drama, dude blasts cal and BD1 across a room, that must be what like 220lbs lifted and chucked at least? considering all his gear and BD1 and everything
And Osha's is done with the blade active for the most part, which gives the energy an outlet?
Idk I just don't really get where people are coming from with the "It doesn't happen like that" thing like, it's known to be a wildly varied thing, and it's happening in a situation we've never seen before onscreen or off
I think some people have this idea that Osha's bleed seems too easy, and in their mind, that makes her more powerful than Vader or something. In all honesty, I agree with you, it's a widely varied, personal process, and what I actually think people are upset about is that they didn't like the show, and are looking for "specific" reasons to say that it wrecks other Star Wars properties.
Also not only was Osha created from a vergence she is also in the presence of that very same vergence when she bleeds the crystal witch is shown as at least partially happening before ignition and transition of the blade
On the lower end, but still higher than the grifters were hoping it would fail
There were just other much more impactful shows out at the same time, with a much broader audience. Star Wars is still very niche nerd stuff.
timing is so important
Timing and characters. Mando was a huge draw because of Boba Fett and continued due to baby Yoda.
Acolyte had no strong recognized presence. This is huge in attracting an audience to content of an existing franchise.
agreed.
given a choice though people will generally pick up what they know
only so many hours in a day
This right here is why I typically only pay attention to Star Wars and Marvel releases. I only have so many hours in a day available to watch stuff, and I only have so much mental bandwidth to want to keep up with a series.
and its why i loved acolytes shorter run time
I could have used some longer episodes throughout. The pacing did feel sort of off. But I really enjoyed the show overall, and the fight choreo was some of the most visually interesting I've seen in a while.
I legitmately enjoyed it. I just felt it would have been best experienced if it had come out all at once
That's kind of where I land too. It could have been a spectacular movie, or a binge series.
i worry about the story if it had gone longer. i was just meaning the 30-40 min run times was nice. easier to make time
Ah, yeah, that makes sense. And that's a fair point.
Do we have a saber seller for Yord's lightsaber yet? I'm starting to think he might have the best saber in the show
I haven't even seen clean pictures of it yet
Nelson numbers show total minutes viewed had it at #10 for original stories and #26 versus all. Lower number than Andor and Ahsoka, but (and here's my cope talking) both of those have preexisting characters and Andor was 12 episodes instead of 8 so that means more minutes viewed
I'd really, really like to see a 2nd season. They left so many tantalizing little bites for where the story could go.
Viewing numbers isn't all that is looked at either.
As long as the powers that be can separate legit criticisms from mindless review bombing, I'm cautiously optimistic.
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"Sources" they say
Yeah, I don't trust "sources". There's almost no detail, and half that article is a synopsis of the show, and the cast list. This article reads like a "write something short and speculatory to drive clicks" sort of thing.
It could be accurate, but I sort of doubt it.
Maybe that's just the copium talking, though.
I really hope there's a second season they can improve on what they had and they left a lot of loose ends. Also.... I just remembered I never finished Ashoka I should do that
You should, Ahsoka is pretty good.
Oh no, poor @weary sable
Why am I poor? Ahsoka was a great show.
I really liked Ahsoka so I'm not sure why I'm the one being pitied.
Couple comments further up
If you're talking about Acolyte S2 not happening then I honestly couldn't give a shit.
I sorta guessed it would get review-bombed into oblivion.
He's not poor, that just means his Qimir fanfic is just as canon as a season 2.
Weirdly I haven't written any of that.
Yet...
I'm not sure where the show would go with him.
I had some thoughts on what a Season 2 might do. I still think he was poised to start the Knights of Ren.
See in situations like this, my fanfic would just be what realistically happens afterwards, regardless of my personal feelings.
I take fanfiction writing incredibly seriously so this isn't really a "joking" sort of moment btw.
Think buddy cop film but it leads to the creation of the knights of ren with Qimir and Osha being the founders
Like yeah a Qimir×Nonemi crackfic would be mildly funny but I'm not interested. End of discussion.
I didn't mean to offend, I was just poking a little fun.
Sorry.
Oh I know you didn't. I said it in an anticipatory manner.
I'm not offended, and I won't be if everyone is respectful.
Like yes, I simp for Qimir.
No, my fanfic would not have me replacing Osha as the Acolyte, contrary to popular belief.
It would have Plagueis murdering Qimir in cold blood and with the most brutal tactics possible.
Qimir would train Osha and Plagueis would execute him for trying and failing to be more powerful than him.
Beginning the hunt for his next few apprentices before landing on a young Sheev Palpatine.
Because that is the most realistic progression of events.
Have you read the plagueis novel?
Nope.
I think you should and incorporate that. One of the best legends books
But honestly as much as I like Qimir I want to see him dead in S2.
Because we know that that's where it's going.
See I just felt bad because no more Thirsty Tuesdays with Nonemi
Yeah, those were fun.
Like no, an "Acolyte S2" fic from me wouldn't have 5 paragraphs about Qimir's arms.
But there'd be three pages of him dying: one from Plagueis' perspective, one from Qimir's, and one from Osha's.
I would just need a basic outline of Plagueis' outward personality, habits, preferred techniques, and a few samples of dialogue.
I think it's real
All the articles are referencing deadline though
That's kind of my issue. Deadline posted first, so all the other articles source Deadline, who's only source is "sources". I'm not saying it's not accurate, and it likely is, but it's not robust journalism.
It might be sources for anonymity
But yeah I definitely understand the skepticism at first. It feels more serious though than when other publications were saying it was canceled back in like 2023
That's true. I just haven't seen anything corroborrating the original claim, and if there is 1 thing that being an adult in the US for the last decade has taught me, it's to make sure you're getting your news from a proper source.
Perhaps we'll know more tomorrow
But I kinda figured it was gonna get cancelled anyway
It's just a shame they will probably avoid other narrative areas now
Yeah, I can't say I'm surprised. I liked it, I defended it, but there were way too many people who shouted it down for both valid and non valid reasons.
we might get a continuation in comics/books
That’s crazy
What? The fact that I genuinely want Qimir dead?
Maybe the Acolyte season 2 was the friends we made along the way
That means you guys are the Acolyte Season 2.
Bith, or human, or something else?
Just them cancelling that shit frame zero
Yeah, I'm surprised it happened so quickly. The finale only aired like a month ago.
I'm not.
I sort of saw it coming.
Again the show was getting hated on before it even aired I knew it wasn't gonna survive the review bombing.
I was hoping they'd be able to separate the review bombing from honest reviews.
I feel as if the honest reviews aren't much better...
“It’s okay” just simply doesn’t cut it enough anymore
Yeah, that's fair. It's a shame, there was definitely potential here.
It also sucks cause then it means less chances of them experimenting more with HR
I know it's not the same thing, and the show had some legit problems, but I can't help comparing this to the negative reactions after TFA and TLJ. "TFA was just ANH again. We want something different!" TLJ releases. "No, not like that".
I know Disney can make Star Wars that people in general love. Rogue One and Andor are both highly praised. It's just disappointing to get invested in some of these shows, that then go nowhere.
Streaming services and their consequences
That's a good point. But it's more than that. People have gotten to the point where they expect any new Star Wars or Marvel to be bad, so they watch it expecting to hate it, and when you're in that mindset, you find things to hate. It's a "when you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail" situation.
Idk, it seems like the discourse around every new thing that comes out that I enjoy is just so negative, and I'm exhausted feeling like I have to justify why I enjoy something every single time.
There’s no willingness to give things time to get good, despite many of their favorite tv series also having rocky starts that required time to really nail their formula
That's very true. If a streaming show doesn't do gangbusters right away, they cancel it. Shows used to be able to evolve and grow. Look at the US Office. The first season is so awkward at times, and if it was canceled, we never would have gotten the great show it became.
Yea it seems like you either a) really nail the first season and pray to god you get a renewal, or b) someone with a lot of money has a clear interest in keeping it going
Oh wait I forgot option c) hope your single season builds up enough of a cult following to eventually get a revival wayyyy down the line
That does seem to be the new standard. I get that showrunners want a hit, but sometimes you have to let things grow.
I do not like this cancelation
It didn't seem to have much of a chance from the get go
It wasn't great
Kinda dumb at times
Characters made dumb choices
It was silly in parts
That being said, none of that seemed to keep me from enjoying what I watched
One of the most interesting bad guys
Lots of potential.
There were very few spaces I could talk about this show without it being taken over by those who just hated everything about it
I ran into the same thing. Like here, another company specific discord, and my personal friend group were the only places I could express joy about the show, without being told I'm wrong for liking it.
It feels like the loudest, angriest "fans" have gotten their way again.
I still wish we could get more than the original deadline article and their sources an official statement from Lucas film/Disney would be great
Yeah, the fact that it's only that article seems odd to me.
An interesting thing I saw: the rotten tomatoes score for the clone wars movie. Thinking about it, would clone wars have been renewed if the movie and first season had come out under Disney?
Probably. It was still a kids show
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Even when they got exactly what they wanted, the chuds cannot be civil, decent people.
Really stretching the definition of “Fan” there
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@weary sable now’s your chance
Too broke for cons.
Also wouldn't be able to get permission to leave in the first place.
Some things I noticed about the LGT/Nexus Qimir hilt
Yeah, LGT is not known for their accuracy lol