THE ACOLYTE

[crisp ravine]

im relatively indifferent about my sibling

[silk jacinth]

I don't want to fight my sister

[weary sable]

Honestly I showed up for Aniseya and stayed for Qimir.

As little of her as we got, I found her interesting.
And of course, the character design for her was gorgeous.

[potent cape]

I wonder what her first name is

[weary sable]

"Mother". /j

[shrewd heron]

I will fight your sister

[crisp ravine]

i figured aniseya was her first name

[weary sable]

Considering Aniseya is Mae and Osha's family name, I can see why some if not most would assume the same for Aniseya.

[potent cape]

Verosha Aniseya & Mae-ho Aniseya

[crisp ravine]

i did not know that was their last name

[weary sable]

"When are we gonna find out Obama's last name?"
"When are we gonna find out Aniseya's last name?"
/lhj

[potent cape]

was an oddly made show

but I did enjoy it

[proud notch]

That's what I'm thinking too

I honestly hope we get a season 2 but they take a lot of the constructive criticism to really beef up what is left for a story

[plucky sigil]

Honestly

Kinda lame

Plagueis was neat, but kinda just there

Did not give a single damn about the twins.

The saber fight was neat

The bleed was kinda cool

But like

Eh

[lone coral]

I very much enjoyed the show. As far as a jumping off point for this time period and some of the concepts, I think it did the job well enough. It wasn't perfect, but I'm hoping that a second season allows the creators to really dig in more.

Hopefully the torrent of blind hatred from other corners of the Internet doesn't scare Disney away.

[plucky sigil]

Just kinda eh across the board for me

Can’t tell if I like it more than BOBF because that show was also, in my opinion, a bit of a slow, boring mess

With a few cool moments scattered throughout

[lone coral]

For both of BoBF and the Acolyte, I agree they were slow, but I didn't find them boring. Again, neither were perfect, but I kind of like the slow burn, slowly reveal details/motivation type of storytelling from time to time.

[tight sierra]

After the first hand hold on the lightsaber my friends have declared themselves oshaqimir stans and oh my god help me

https://imgur.com/ArOWlWU

[plucky sigil]

I just still hate that Vespa speeder chase in BOBF

with a passion

like Jesus Christ

[cosmic siren]

that whole scene couldve been made better if they simply werent so brightly colored

[proud notch]

I have a feeling of disappointment with the show but maybe this will go away after more time

[tight sierra]

I... Don't think Lucasfilm did the right choice with greenlighting Book of Boba Fett

[proud notch]

I'd definitely watch it over Kenobi or BoBF but I like Mando, Ahsoka, and Andor more

[plucky sigil]

At least that had the kinda random Mandalorian episodes

But The Acolyte had, like

Episode 5

[tight sierra]

In my opinion, Robert Rodriguez isn't a good match for Star Wars

[proud notch]

I really liked the first two episodes, 3 is weird to think about because of all the backlash, 4 felt hella off with the directing and writing, 5 was good, 6 was intriguing, 7 I'm unsure of, and I feel disappointed with 8

[plucky sigil]

I just liked seeing the saber combat and utility of the Cortosis stuff

[proud notch]

I want my sith lore man

[plucky sigil]

although I dunno where his gauntlets were last episode, maybe I missed something.

[silk jacinth]

I enjoyed more TA than BOBF

[proud notch]

Yord broke it

[plucky sigil]

Oh yeah

[proud notch]

You have to pause to really see it, I posted a picture of it in this chat

[weary sable]

This might just be me, but I feel like the camera work and scene lighting failed the duel.
The choreography was fantastic but I thought the camera work and the lighting makes a certain je nais se quois.

(I did not spell that right)

[plucky sigil]

It did feel a bit off

Or at least look a bit off

[weary sable]

The lighting felt... idk, washed out?

[lone coral]

I think part of that is the sabers

[weary sable]

The sabers also looked off to me.

[plucky sigil]

The color or just the bulkiness

[weary sable]

Because it didn't look like they were rotoscoped.

[lone coral]

The sabers look washed out because they had actual, real world light references.

[weary sable]

Like, it just hit me. The moving blades have colour blur instead of white cores like we're used to seeing.

[lone coral]

Exactly.

[plucky sigil]

And I dunno, some of the moves in the fight just looked a little…unnecessary?

[weary sable]

Especially in the outdoor lighting.

[weary sable]

That's prequel era dueling for you, I guess.

[potent cape]

Any fight scene lasting longer than a minute or so is going to be that way

[lone coral]

Not more unnecessary than some of the prequel fight moves, in my opinion

[plucky sigil]

Fair

Applies to a buncha fight now that I think about it

[potent cape]

Distances and angles were off, but like

It's fake

They draw out combat because it's fun to watch

[plucky sigil]

Well yeah

[lone coral]

Also, they tied in wuxia style combat, so that changed how things looked as well.

[weary sable]

NAH

[cosmic siren]

XD

[plucky sigil]

I dunno, guess the show overall had its highs and it’s very low lows

[cosmic siren]

of course your the first one to say something

[weary sable]

Honestly I really liked the more airborne, flourish-y wuxia style, though tbf I love Wuxia/Xianxia/Xuanhuan so I'm biased.

[lone coral]

That's a fair opinion. In my view, none of the lows of this are specifically worse than any of the other Disney shows.

[weary sable]

Cultivation Martial Arts genres are PEAKKK

[lone coral]

I really liked that too.

[weary sable]

The part where Sol jumped out of the damaged hallway into the courtyard and Qimir followed.

[plucky sigil]

And the Yoda part at the end

[weary sable]

I was like "yeah that's taking a leaf outta Wuxia's book", especially with the slowed descent.

[tight sierra]

👏 we 👏 need 👏 more 👏 wire 👏 fu 👏

[lone coral]

You know if they didn't at least tease Yoda, parts of the fan base would be screeching about "Why not get him if this is so important?"

[weary sable]

There's a joke among people who watch Asian dramas that swordsmen in C-Dramas jump once and stay fighting in the air for 5 minutes but tbh how far is that from the truth.

[potent cape]

Ohey. No one knows a sith is alive. Canon survived.

Who knew.

[weary sable]

I really wanna include wires when I eventually sit and do production but idk how the fuck I'm gonna do a wire rig at home.

[lone coral]

Very good point. It's almost as if complaining about that plot point was dumb from the start 😆

[tight sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/hero-2002-hero-wuxia-2002-director-zhang-yimou-nameless-jet-li-nameless-hero-gif-2492319597254227570

[potent cape]

Mae might know but she got magic ice picked

[weary sable]

This is before getting into the fact that "Flying Swords" are a common trope in Cultivation genres.

(Basically using the sword as transportation. Whether it drags you along or you stand on it hoverpad style)

[lone coral]

Like Thor flying with Mjolnir

[weary sable]

We kinda already have this in Star Wars in the form of the Inquisitor sabers.

[plucky sigil]

Next up

I gotta avoid any spoilers pertaining to Jedi Survivor

Like a minefield trying to go in blind

[silk jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/frank-reynolds-nope-always-sunny-nope-notpunkanymore-nope-f-no-gif-14063328359226428370

[lone coral]

I'll just say, super fun game. I haven't finished it yet, but I really dig it so far.

[plucky sigil]

I’m trying to avoid any story beats but man, is it hard

[weary sable]

Hey, they're swords and they fly. As much as I hate it, it's technically similar.

[plucky sigil]

Like

I gotta really watch it now

[silk jacinth]

Play it

[lone coral]

https://tenor.com/view/palpatine-dewit-gif-11426456

[proud notch]

Survivor is a massive improvement on the first game

[silk jacinth]

I like Rebels a lot but the flying sabers make me want to poke my eyes out

[weary sable]

Honestly my biggest gripe is the fact that they fold.

[plucky sigil]

Oh yeah, I know

[lone coral]

Again, I didn't mind it that much. I'm sort of ambivalent about it.

[proud notch]

That's the great part about this universe, there's so many lovable things and hateable things

[weary sable]

The rotating track shouldn't work with the way the emitter ring folds.

[plucky sigil]

Just playing through the first level had my jaw dropped with the visuals

[weary sable]

Like. The emitter ring being hollow would allow energy to flow through, negating the need for wiring.

[plucky sigil]

And then with the fucking Ninth Sister still being alive too

[proud notch]

Maybe hate is the wrong word, dislikable things*

[plucky sigil]

Great reveal and great first boss

[weary sable]

But the folding would negate that idea due to the way the ring halves are aligned.

Honestly depending on how small a repulsor lift is, it could feasibly fit inside the emitter ring.

Honestly though I do agree that flight is a bit wild.

Hovering or descent speed regulation, I can get down with.

Like when Maul pushes Eighth Brother off a cliff, only for Eighth Brother to slow his fall using the blades.

But being able to take off is a little out there yeah.

[regal shell]

Cal kills vader and makes palps his apprentice

[weary sable]

You forgot that Starkiller takes Ben Skywalker as an apprentice and Cal leaves Merrin for Ben.

[regal shell]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-kylo-ren-ben-solo-lightsaber-gif-10525714

This is actually Kylo, starkiller, cal, and qimir

[weary sable]

Don't forget Darth Caedus too.

[regal shell]

iPhone autocorrect is spiting me

[weary sable]

Skill issue. /lhj

[hoary star]

If you're planning on having scenes like this... Why not just actually cast a pair of identical twins?

[weary sable]

Yeah that's one of the gripes I have with the show.

Don't get me wrong I liked the actress.
I just can't help but feel like they were cheaping out by only hiring one person to play two people.

[lone coral]

I don't think that's a cheaping out thing, and more of a "How many pairs of twins that are actors that can work at this level and are the demographic we're looking for for the story?"

[regal shell]

I think for the younger version they used real twins

[lone coral]

I believe they did as well

[hoary star]

They did

[nova slate]

it's also probably easier to find twin children for acting than teen/young adult twins for some reason

[lone coral]

Or child acting is easier to forgive being not so great.

[silk jacinth]

The kids were fine

They acted like kids

[nova slate]

Well i mean even though twins may be identical in a whole lotta ways, there's less of a guarantee that they're both going to have aspirations of being an actor. At least with younger children, there's the parents probably pushing both

(not that the parents pushing both to do it is a good thing)

[lone coral]

I wasn't critiquing the child actors, I thought they did a great job. I was more speaking to the idea that as an actor gets older, the expectations for their performance are higher. The pool of actors suitable for a given role shrinks. So there are more sets of child actor twins that could pull off a given role.

[silk jacinth]

I know you weren't

But some online did

Brutal

[narrow lotus]

Tatiana Maslany could have pulled it off better lol

[silk jacinth]

Stunt saber I guess (from Manny's IG)

[nova slate]

good god that's a beefy boy

[lone coral]

That's a heckin' chonker.

[silk jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-america-i-understand-gif-14090379

Looks like a toy

[lone coral]

Likely that's intentional. If it's a stunt saber, it only needs to basically look right from afar, and needs to stand up to a lot of abuse.

[silk jacinth]

That's the top half of the saber

No lower half image

[lone coral]

You're right, the lower shoto portion isn't there. The shorter length contributes to the chonkiness.

[cosmic siren]

i legitimately love how the bleeding looked

[lone coral]

Yeah, that was really cool, especially seeing the ignited blade change.

[cosmic siren]

in jedi survivor it seemed like degans crystal just faded from yellow to red. where as here it looks like the crystal itself is actually bleeding. like someone cut their skin and blood is seeping from the wound

[lone coral]

Just a heads up, someone here was looking to avoid spoilers for that game.

But I agree, it looking like actual blood was great.

[empty minnow]

Well that episode fucking sucked

Loved the lightsaber insides tho

[cosmic siren]

so did hit emitter matrix actually break off or was it just the shroud?

[empty minnow]

They really gotta focus more on those cool guides that show the internals about that

[lone coral]

Highly disagree, but to each their own.

[empty minnow]

I'm looking at Survivor right now and...the end result is the same?

The blade still turns

Unless I'm missing the differences

Or maybe its how the emotions are put into effect. Cause the process in Survivor was much more meticulous compared to say...Ben's process

[cosmic siren]

i meant like the crystal just looks like you took the hue slider and turned yellow to red. where as here the crystal turns unevenly. like pieces of it are being corrupted but its fighting back still

thats not something they can really get across in comics like ben and vaders

[lone coral]

It's like the crystal was cracked when is was thrown to the side, and Osha's rage seeped into the cracks like blood, turning it red. I really liked that interpretation of bleeding a cyber crystal. Literally making it bleed.

[potent cape]

I thought bleeding required more focus tbh

[empty minnow]

🤣

Sith have an uncanny tendency to just chill in caves

Maul, Plagueis, and even Sidious

[lone coral]

Cause caves are dope

[cosmic siren]

i mean can you blame them? when you look butt fucking ugly even when compared to the majority of your species youd wanna go hide in a cave too

[empty minnow]

Also no one will get this reference but he reminds me of a SC1 Protoss

[lone coral]

I'd imagine pure, unadulterated rage would do the trick, though. It's not like the Sith have an unhealthy relationship with negative emotions or anything.

[empty minnow]

this guy in particular
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/starcraft/images/e/ed/HighTemplar_SC1_HeadAnim1.gif/revision/latest/scale-to-width/360?cb=20171118133457

Sith are just angy

[potent cape]

Kylo failed to bleed his correctly, vader struggled a bit with his.

[empty minnow]

Though from what Star Wars seems to enjoy telling me:

Girls love bad boys

[potent cape]

Dagan put some effort in iirc

Kylo is a babey though

[empty minnow]

Vader got that cool alternate reality thing. Almost fooled him for a moment.

[cosmic siren]

i can not cite an official source for this unfortunately cus i dont even remember where i heard it but i believe one of the ways to produce a red crystal was for a dark sider to use it like a jedi crystal and that it would turn red naturally aligning with their dark nature

[empty minnow]

https://comicnewbies.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/darth-vader-vs-emperor-palpatine-darth-vader-vol-2-5-3.jpg

[cosmic siren]

take it with a grain of salt, like i said i dont remember where i heard it but i swear it was an offical thing somewhere

[lone coral]

Kylo had a very strong pull to the light, and Vader fell in more of a tragic way, so I can kind of understand why they had a harder time. Not to mention, Osha and Mae are created from the force, so I could see them having an easier time based on their nature.

[lone coral]

Like, the more "evil" deeds done with it, it would turn red? That does sound familiar.

[empty minnow]

https://twitter.com/kyber_kat/status/1813392514227019989

kat (@kyber_kat) on X

[the acolyte spoilers]

how it feels to watch vernestra frame sol #TheAcolyte

Twitter · Jul 17, 2024, 1:57 AM

[potent cape]

Vernestra fell so hard. :/

[empty minnow]

Yeah its...kind of appalling actually

[potent cape]

I really love her character as a knight, in the books

[empty minnow]

Like if someone told me that this girl:
https://screenspeck.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/5f329f592241050001d6f521-image_ad6a34cc.jpeg

Would become that in The Acolyte,

I would have sent Avsati after them

[lone coral]

I have to imagine there's a reason for that, though. I got the vibe that she, like Sol, is only doing what she thinks is best.

Like, maybe she had a hyperspace vision that she misinterpreted?

I'm not super familiar with her character, but I am aware she's way less uptight in the books.

[potent cape]

Stellan would not be proud

[empty minnow]

Now I wonder how the hell she will explain this to Yoda of all people

[potent cape]

She was knighted during jedi 9/11. Went in a war on terror, it was rough

I understand

[lone coral]

That puts things in perspective.

[potent cape]

Also thought one of her apprentices (qimir) was dead. She may have been responsible

Like, I get it but it's still sad to see

[empty minnow]

If I had a nickel for every time a character in Star Wars was super upbeat and positive in animation/comics and then be super serious in live action due to war flashbacks, I'd have two nickels.

Which isn't a lot but its weird that it happened twice

[cosmic siren]

its been a good part of 100 years. look what happened to luke in under 15 years

[empty minnow]

Ahhh he's fine he has blue milk

[lone coral]

Maybe a second season of this show will redeem her character.

[lone coral]

Green

[cosmic siren]

yeah it was green

[empty minnow]

I was thinking of LEGO Luke sorry xD

He drinks blue

https://tenor.com/view/lego-star-wars-luke-skywalker-milk-drinking-milk-drink-milk-gif-25410585

[potent cape]

It also looks like Yoda is back in active duty on the council so, it's probably a stricter regime now still

[empty minnow]

Now the question is:
what the Plagueis doin

[potent cape]

Young vernestra is still cool so no big loss

[cosmic siren]

please let that meme die

[empty minnow]

Like does Qimir know he's there? Probably not

[potent cape]

He's going to kill qimir.

[empty minnow]

Mi-Oh

Mimir is often used to sleep so I thought it was intentional lol

[potent cape]

But is he going to kill him because he's his apprentice and going against the rule of 2. Or because he's an offshoot sith

[empty minnow]

I mean Palpatine was okay with the inquisitors right?

[potent cape]

But also plag has to learn about the creation of life from qimir or osha

[nova slate]

But how is the interesting part. Maybe force energy siphon?

[empty minnow]

I'm assuming he's using Qimir as a means

Get him that secret to eternal life

[nova slate]

Train him to be strong enough in the force and then take that?

[empty minnow]

Yeah

[cosmic siren]

plagueis himself broke the rule of two allowing for darth venamis and darth maul to exist while also training sidious

[empty minnow]

I think Palpatine was initially going to do that with Rey

[nova slate]

Rules for thee but not for me

[cosmic siren]

and hell tenebrous also broke it training darth venamis and plagueis at the same time XD

i believe even venamis was looking for his own apprentices as well

[potent cape]

Sith gunna sith

[lone coral]

I don't think Qimir knows about Plagueis. He's doing his own thing. I think we'll see Plagueis entice Qimir into training, until Qimir realizes that the Sith teachings are just as stifling as the Jedi. Qimir and Plagueis fight, with Qimir losing, but alive. Plagueis takes Osha to train, while Qimir flees to found the Knights of Ren.

[empty minnow]

The people on Twitter asking who the hell is that beady eyed robed guy makes me laugh xD

Its the dude

[lone coral]

He's the Shadowman.

https://tenor.com/view/shadowman-aunty-donna-hug-the-sun-mark-bonanno-mark-bonnano-gif-21968372

[tight sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/shadow-the-hedgehog-edgy-gun-4chan-chungus-gif-22492410

[nova slate]

At least he’s not the Nightman

[lone coral]

https://tenor.com/view/its-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-mac-nightman-gif-22483577

[cosmic siren]

did he legit just fucking pump what looks like an ak?

[tight sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-adventure-sonic-the-hedgehog-what-the-fuck-are-you-talking-about-shadow-gif-25640005

That's an M4 type

[nova slate]

He’s a cloned anthropomorphic hedgehog. I think in this case he’s earned a pump action m4

[tight sierra]

He's not a clone

[cosmic siren]

oh hes a clone

[tight sierra]

He's the ultimate artificially created life-form

[nova slate]

Sorry. Ultimate Lifeform

[tight sierra]

He's also over 50

[lone coral]

He'd be cooler as a clone.

[cosmic siren]

my mans a clone XD

[lone coral]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-silly-clone-trooper-storm-trooper-star-wars-gif-17439982

[nova slate]

And his best friend was a little girl who was shot by a military officer

[tight sierra]

There's seven endings you get before you get the real ending, Clone is one of the seven

Or was it nine

[empty minnow]

Nine....

It was nine...I remember VIVIDLY

[nova slate]

Idk at this point I’ve just taken the Snapcube dubs as sonic canon

[empty minnow]

So...much...gaming...

It took me forever to get the nine endings when I was younger xD

[empty minnow]

I'm becoming partial to the Lythero unintended fandub myself lol

[cosmic siren]

sonic omens making maria into a boss was kinda awesome

[empty minnow]

Especially since Alfred is still Eggman in them

[cosmic siren]

why they made shadow russian is beyond me but still

[cosmic siren]

XD wtf

[empty minnow]

Heyyyyyy whats upppppp its meeeeeee

[tight sierra]

STOPPPPPPP

[cosmic siren]

"your an asshole man"
"you are what you eat"
stealing that

[nova slate]

Their SSB Brawl dub for April fools was incomprehensibly funny

[empty minnow]

WARIO

I GOTTA WIN

[cosmic siren]

i love how the fucking music stops the moment he lets off that one liner

[tight sierra]

"you're a dick"
"You are what you eat"
"huh?"
"I just love Latinos, Sonic."

[empty minnow]

"Who's tha- who's that girl? Did yo- Do you know her? Is she a friend? That's kind of cool. Is she alive, do you know her? Is she alive and you go hang out with her? Did you save her, like, 'cause she's your friend? That's awesome, dude. I wish I had a friend like you who could save me if I was ever in danger."

[potent cape]

Plag looked really cool what we saw of him

[nova slate]

Shoutout to sonic riders having no cutscenes during an integral part of the climax in the story leading to https://youtu.be/QqyA_5g1tF8?si=4oGZ-IMBhS4nepAF

[lone coral]

Hard agree. Extremely menacing, he looked like a horror movie monster.

I really liked that.

[nova slate]

Get my mans Javier Botet to play him

[empty minnow]

I'm glad they kept him sorta covered up

[cosmic siren]

so anyone else going for sonic jedi OC's?

[empty minnow]

Keeps that cool mysterious vibe. And provides bait for a S2 request

Did you draw that?

[lone coral]

Javier Botet and Doug Jones. Full prosthetic makeup creep-off. Who's the creepiest?

[cosmic siren]

no XD i looked up edgy sonic oc jedi

[empty minnow]

Okay I was gonna say wow you had that ready xD

I mean it looks cool!

[nova slate]

I gotta give it to Botet. His proportions due to his conditions really help to sell his performances. No hate to Doug jones though. Loved him as Abe Sapien

[lone coral]

That's true. Though, Doug Jones as the Pale Man is the stuff of nightmares.

[cosmic siren]

and with the amount of species in the galaxy, not entirely out of the realm of possibility

[tight sierra]

Two scenes of a stranger holding osha's hand this episode, goodness

https://tenor.com/view/i-wanna-hold-your-hand-the-beatles-beatlemania-gif-10270591481292074651

[empty minnow]

One day we shall have a story where the female MC doesn't fall for the Sith/dark jedi baddie

xD

[nova slate]

Hand holding? In my Christian sci-fi universe? Blasphemy/j

[tight sierra]

This is a Buddhist show, @nova slate

[nova slate]

https://tenor.com/view/waah-waa-sad-wah-waaah-gif-25875771

[potent cape]

Aphra!

[empty minnow]

true!

[potent cape]

And uhhh

Emilia Clarkes character

[lone coral]

Qira

[cosmic siren]

Seen someone saying how Wookiee Jedi are getting tiresome. But like. (And this is kind of a big thing when you think of it) there’s been more instances of yodas species than there has been of Wookiee Jedi

[lone coral]

I mean, that's what, 3 for Yoda's species vs 2 for Wookiee Jedi? That complaint doesn't make sense to me.

[cosmic siren]

Even if we take books/comics into account. I believe that’s at least 3 more instances of yodas species. And for sure 3 more wookiee Jedi

[near hornet]

Western SW fans overall aren’t ready for wuxia-style choreo

[potent cape]

They don't seem ready for anything tbh

[tight sierra]

please i beg

[tight sierra]

Same image

https://tenor.com/view/whosthat-whats-going-on-what-gif-9503722

[vast plank]

the show was kind of anti-climactic imho

plot was good

but could've been executed better

[median ocean]

The casual Plagueis reveal was actually insane to me. More exciting than Yoda’s predictable appearance in the last second

[ocean jewel]

it wasn't as bad as some of the reviews make out. i think it all worked fairly well to set up more if wanted but also if it just stopped the story they told would be done.

[vast plank]

I think people are being harsh on it because of the implications of the show provides in terms of the greater lore

[ocean jewel]

i think the biggest issue wasn't the length of the episodes so much as how they flowed together. if they would have done say 2/3 extended episodes it would have been better for the story overall. but fans would have revolted that we aren't getting that many

[vast plank]

I've heard some folk argue that the whole vergence BS just undermines Anakin's chosen one arc

[ocean jewel]

also that the lore is being changed because it is now being retold

from what i'm seeing vergences aren't common but anakin wasn't the first.

he won't be the last

[vast plank]

Yea but it wasn't explained well at all

they legit waited till the last episode to explain it

[ocean jewel]

i do think the show was a good start to show the fall of the jedi though. how they like to cover up their messes so as to keep things as the status quo

[vast plank]

also a lot of plot details felt like filler

[ocean jewel]

i think if they would have explained earlier it would have hurt the arc of the story they were telling.

which was all about sol.

[vast plank]

People also disliked the twins soo much because of how they are written especially from a morality point of view, kept changing sides and whatnot

[ocean jewel]

i guess i could see that. although to me it made sense.

[vast plank]

I think all the build up resulted in a weak whiff of excitement and then the lights burnt out

the Plagiues reveal was one last hail mary

[ocean jewel]

i think that was more " somehow palpatine returned" to say he was the one controlling from the background the entire time and none of these people actually had a choice

overall. i enjoyed it. and i want more political intrigue star wars shows

[vast plank]

well Qimir is probably the apprentice

he is probably training Osha to overthrow Plagiues

but that won't work cause Plagiues will train Young Palpatine and kill them both

that will probs be how season 2 goes

[ocean jewel]

or maybe he's not the apprentice yet

we have no idea if anybody outside of us knows that plagiues exists

[vast plank]

I am 99% sure Qimir knows he exists

[potent cape]

might be another apprentice before palpatine anyway

[vast plank]

he probably has other apprentices vying for the title of Darth

[potent cape]

palps isn't born for awhile yet

[vast plank]

all of them are acolytes anyway so they probably compete against one another anyway

Isn't the show 100 years before Ep I

[potent cape]

yeah

[potent cape]

we don't really have any reason to believe there is more than 2 + osha

[ocean jewel]

we can get into that story now. 😄

[vast plank]

Don't we?

Qimir is Vernestra's Pupil

[potent cape]

Was.

[vast plank]

Plagieus has probably corrupted other Jedi

Qimir probably killed some of em to become the Acoylte

I doubt he is the fully fledged apprentice

[potent cape]

the writer said there were two sith in the show

so I'm going to take that as Qimir & Plag

[vast plank]

Inb4 Senator Raynecourt is involved with Damask Holdings

[potent cape]

he gave me evil vibes

[vast plank]

He is just a brilliant businessmuun

[visual crater]

Oh, I loved it. I was making a joke.

[wild cove]

so darth plageuis eh

guess it's time to reread the novel

[narrow lotus]

Meh, novel isn't canon anyway so they're likely to change much of it even of they keep using him as a character

[potent cape]

didn't he try to make a dyad in canon?

[regal shell]

Is this going to turn into plagueis and palpatine attempting manipulate the force to create life like the witches and end in the force making Anakin

Or at least lead to that

[wild cove]

doesn't matter if it's canon, its fuckin great

[uncut kayak]

i feel like it will head that way

[potent cape]

100% lol

[wild cove]

I'm a little mildly disappointed they referenced the skywalker saga at all tbh

I feel like we already know all we need to about how/why anakin was born

[potent cape]

idk if there's an explanation for it in canon, actually

but it doesn't need one

[wild cove]

i more mean I don't think its necessary

[potent cape]

yeah, it's better as a mystery anyway

[wild cove]

takes away some of the mystery

[potent cape]

except we do know the Sith did not make anakin

[wild cove]

yeah my thoughts exactly

[regal shell]

I think they feel if they step too far away from the Skywalker saga, it’ll alienate the more casual fans.

[wild cove]

not specific to SW but I think there is a general trend towards audiences being uncomfortable with ambiguity

[potent cape]

100% and it pisses me off

It's also kind of hard not to reference the skywalker saga considering it's one of the most pivotal moments in the universe.

[wild cove]

it's not a huge deal. I just think I would have enjoyed the show more in a vacuum

[potent cape]

talking about sith 200 years in either direction is going to have connections to it.

[wild cove]

they could have set it at any point really

regardless I am excited for s2

[regal shell]

#SolDidNothingWrong

[hollow kindle]

I rarely watch 1 and 2 so I kind of forgot about it.

The show was left wide open with some insight to who Qimir is. There will be a season 2 to follow up with all of this. I still think Sol's reasoning for the whole destruction of the witch coven and wanting Osha needs expanded on. All of this was because of Sol and never explained why.

[narrow lotus]

He did explain why.
"Holy shit, this dark side witch coven CREATED LIFE WITH A FORCE VERGENCE??? FUUUUUUcckkk that's danger!"
He stabbed Aseniya because she was doing "weird aggressive magic witch stuff" right next to him.
All he knew was Osha/Mae were a/in danger and Mae & Mommy were both dissipating into weird shadow mist at the same time

We don't know exactly what Ascension was (my guess is either essence transfer or merging Mae/Osha) but Mae told Sol it was a "sacrifice"

[tight sierra]

https://imgur.com/5HSx3zY

Vernestra: "we must find your twin sister."
Mae: ".... Sister? So I have a twin sister??"

Now Sol's failure is complete.

[visual crater]

Sorry. Sol is completely in the wrong. He made wild assumptions and acted without real evidence or authorization. He and the homesick Padawan are 100% responsible for what occurred.

Sol got everything he deserved.

[tight sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/mysillycomics-yea-yeah-gif-24158576

[potent cape]

Nah its Mogs fault

[hollow kindle]

This.

[cosmic siren]

My man had real evidence that the children were being abused XD

But yes he should’ve kept his nose out of where it didn’t belong

[nova slate]

(Wrong spelling I know but I couldn’t help it)

[potent cape]

You finished the dlc yet

[tight sierra]

Have you considered it's everyone's fault

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1093963148987473960/1260414866099929088/image.png?ex=66991f91&is=6697ce11&hm=99106dc4e2693771da63c59adbe3cf6f62f6e4ed8a9ae226f3e8ff7cf7337d7b&

[potent cape]

Yeah

Also Indara

[tight sierra]

I couldn't find a version of this meme with six people

[potent cape]

Kelnacca I think is innocent.

[weary sable]

All he did was get possessed. Mans did his job right the entire rest of the time.

[nova slate]

I did, I’ve been multitasking since with leading my friend through a seamless coop run, finally taking on DS3 and completing Ultrakill’s layer 7

[visual crater]

Like what? He knew of a vergence, saw 2 kids, spied on some training and said we gotta train these kids to be Jedi. They can't be witches!!

[visual crater]

Except he hid the truth after the fact.

[potent cape]

He had ptsd. He's excused.

[visual crater]

He needed therapy

[potent cape]

No sane wookie exiles himself and starts carving witch symbols into the walls

Not guilty due to insanity.

[visual crater]

Fair

[nova slate]

I mean if I was possessed for a bit and slammed my friends around while being known as a strong ass species who has had problems with their people going mad to the point there’s a name for it, I’d be afraid to get anywhere near any other allies for the time being

[potent cape]

Koril seemed like a bad person

[visual crater]

One out of........ How many?

[potent cape]

Power of many

[visual crater]

Qimir has a whip scar on his back. Not all Jedi are really all that good, either.

[potent cape]

Mother Aniseya mightve just been reaching for her license at the cop checkpoint.

[cosmic siren]

The only thing he seen of their training was their mother shoving them over with the force, then attempting to do so again and one of them hiding away from it. Then one of them saying how everyone needed to be sacrificed, and the other telling him they’re telling her to lie so they don’t take them away

[potent cape]

Yeah I wonder if that was before or after he turned.

[visual crater]

She does seem like an angry person

[potent cape]

She's been through a lot.

[visual crater]

Maybe Koril has too.

[potent cape]

Valid.

But one is a dark side adjacent witch

The other is green

Is that a crime

[nova slate]

We also don’t really know the order’s overall stance on “witches” as well. Is the order the “we alone know how to use the force and anyone else who says so is either evil or lying” or “if I don’t see it then I don’t care” type of governing

[potent cape]

They did vernestra dirty.

I really want to know how she got like that.

[visual crater]

He saw very little, and jumped to a conclusion. Had he seen the care and Aniseya's granting of OSHA to train, he would have had a clearer picture. My point stands, he jumped to conclusions. The wrong ones.

https://tenor.com/view/jump-to-conclusion-think-again-go-wild-moot-no-gif-17140256

[nova slate]

She became bald and started torturing people who have hair/j

[potent cape]

The bald is a crime too.

I was sad she didn't have her purple hair

[nova slate]

She saw sol with those luscious locks and got jealous

[cosmic siren]

And no one is disagreeing with you. He should’ve kept his nose out of where it did t belong. From his point of view though he was doing the right thing

[weary sable]

Just saw a comment reading "Osha bleeding her crystal that easily doesn't make sense"
Mans has never been truly angry at someone, it seems.

Like... imagine finding out your entire life and everything you suffered through was a damn lie, and the one who lied to you was stringing you along the whole time.

If humans can be angry enough for their internal blood vessels to rupture to the point of needing Emergency Surgery, then they surely can become angry enough to bleed a Kyber Crystal.

[vast plank]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1093963148987473960/1263114184288370769/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp_3.mp4?ex=66990e41&is=6697bcc1&hm=52fee8e07289e9b546241ff8cf19661ccac5099409f201d2f9d11a6272cf78d0&

[narrow lotus]

That's literally "the Jedi way" though.
No one else is allowed to use the Force that the Jedi think are a threat. It's been a thing/theme for ages.

There's nothing canon about the Nightsisters interactions with the Jedi prior to TCW, but given the whole groups reaction to "omg witches? Here?!" alludes to them either not being known or not being known to leave Dathomir.

[uncut kayak]

Lots of angry people regarding the Crystal bleeding scene

[weary sable]

Again:

[uncut kayak]

Apparently because of this “anakins saber should’ve turned red the moment he started slaughtering the tuskens”

[weary sable]

GROAN

[uncut kayak]

I think people are missing the fact that osha was literally touching the exposed Crystal

And has power she has no idea how to control

[weary sable]

Osha has that deep-seated familial anger towards Sol, and as someone who lives in a formerly-abusive Asian household, yeah. I feel for her.

[nova slate]

Wasn’t that saber destroyed anyways during the factory fight? So even if it did bleed, it would have been gotten rid of very quickly after

[narrow lotus]

Sol's real concern (which was alluded to but not said outright) was that the Jedi would kill Osha and Mae for being too powerful.
They're too old to train. Their coven was using the dark side. They're super powerful.
That's a danger to the "galactic peace". Sol impulsively did what he thought would prevent that, plus other "shit going wrong" (i.e. Mae's fire)

[uncut kayak]

I feel like so many people missed this shot

[vast plank]

Bleeding the Crystal

Hego Damask

Imp0rt4nt cL1p5

[proud notch]

What I find interesting is how is the lightsaber still functioning with its crystal out like that

[cosmic siren]

same energy

[nova slate]

Either I’m tripping or it looks like there’s some veins going towards the crystal on her hand?

[vast plank]

That is the power of the dark side

[nova slate]

If it was intentional, that’s some insane detail, but if not then damn, still cool anyways

[lone coral]

I have to wonder if Kelnacca's PTSD fueled exile is an oblique reference to the idea of a Madclaw.

[tight sierra]

Well he did scratch up Torbin's face

"it wasn't you"
"but it was my hand"

[nova slate]

Would Krrsantan be a madclaw then? Or no since he also utilized weaponry?

[cosmic siren]

I would say yes, because didn’t he use his teeth in the fight with boba?

[nova slate]

And he’s said to have been exiled from Kashyyyk for “unknown reasons”

[proud notch]

Got these from remnicore on instagram

[lone coral]

I had forgotten about that, but you're right. I remember being a Madclaw was a thing in KOTOR, but I don't know if it still holds. They don't mention it in any of the films or TV, I don't think.

[lone coral]

How dare you put me on blast like this.

[proud notch]

Darth Plagueis is so relatable

Also maybe this is my halo brain but his appearance in this show reminds me of the Didact concept art for halo 5

[wild cove]

we are all darth plageuis at 3am

[lone coral]

https://tenor.com/view/cheddar-goblin-gif-23594058

Cheeeeeeeeese....

[hoary star]

I still think my favorite saber throw is the javelin toss that you did in TFU

[silk jacinth]

https://x.com/shinwrenism/status/1813480233560846647?s=19

shinwren (@shinwrenism) on X

Kyber crystal bleeding

#TheAcolyte (2024)
#JediSurvivor (2023)

Twitter · Jul 17, 2024, 7:45 AM

[tight sierra]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/750103896038309950/1263189756779560980/SPOILER_6a0080816ea9f87eb9be63f6135978afe62e60d9.png?ex=669954a2&is=66980322&hm=c41dfcb504ff77725d4fbdf78a6540702eb85ba81869a1d32ce60925a940b481&

[hoary star]

Like I said before, it's not totally weird that it happens, what's weird is the complete lack of disciplinary actions when it does

[nova slate]

"they're making the jedi look bad" "the disney jedi are incompetent" WRONG. Clearly they're trying to show how Yoda was right to start beef with an 8 year old/j

[visual crater]

It's also not her crystal. Don't the Sith need to bleed a Jedi crystal? Vader would have had his own/ Anakin's.

[regal shell]

nah, see back then when ep3 released, the reds were synthetic crystals

bleeding is def a cooler way of doing it though

[covert portal]

agreed. additionally, i believe the wild assumptions he was making was just him seeing what he wanted to see. seemed to me like he couldn't let go of this connection/feeling that osha was meant to be his padawan

[nova slate]

synthetic crystals can be cool if they make the process super dangerous or something rather than just "hey turn on the synth crystal machine"

[wild cove]

I think the idea was that crafting one was a dangerous process and failed a lot

maul saw his crafting of two synthetic crystals as a mark of his superiority over the jedi

[nova slate]

based on Wookiepedia's entry it seems as though the danger was more due to the crystal itself rather than the machining process? since compressed or unstable versions exist and seem like they are more problematic than a standard one. also seemed like opinions were split within the order as to whether they were good enough or not, with a few believing it was better than collecting natural ones?

oh wait some people are saying that mediating near the machine to flow the force into it was a part of the process, and that failing to do so would make a failed crystal, so there is some stakes to doing it

[small sphinx]

Cortosis earrings maybe?!

I’d give the finale a 7/10.
The Osha/Mae stuff was a bit cringey, but other than that I pretty much enjoyed everything else.
There’s some great shots of stances and preparing sabers that felt a little different from what we’ve seen before.

[foggy saffron]

could someone explain why was plagueis in the cave ?

[narrow lotus]

he was waking up from his nap

[lone coral]

He also wanted to ogle Qimir.

[small sphinx]

He wanted to get a look at those arms.

[lone coral]

Plagueis hanging out to steal @weary sable 's bf 😆

[foggy saffron]

same

[lone coral]

He's just chilling in that cave, all "I am the Dark Lord of the Sith, and my pow.... daaaamn, what them arms do?"

[weary sable]

Nah he's my father in law.

Also, Qimir's no longer my bf.

This is probably a terrible way to say we're engaged.

[lone coral]

Oh, youre getting married?

https://tenor.com/view/mazel-tov-mazel-tov-wedding-barmitzvah-gif-9760840

😆

[weary sable]

I need Kyberphonic to release Acolyte fonts so bad.

[lone coral]

I think Juansith posted some earlier today.

[weary sable]

Will look into it.

[lone coral]

Ah, he posted videos in #electronics-and-sound

[proud notch]

Thank you, was also looking for this

[lone coral]

Happy to help ☺️

[proud notch]

HE MADE A GARA FROM WARFRAME SOUNDFONT 😭😭

One of these days I will play with soundfonts, I have 34 of them on my darkwolf and I want to replace one with a halo energy sword

[lone coral]

I'm gonna change some stuff around on my current proffie neopixel probably this weekend. I have ideas.

[proud notch]

I'm guessing Juan's fonts mainly work with neo pixels and higher level boards? All I got is a xenopixel baselit

[lone coral]

Whether it's baselit or neopixel shouldn't affect the sound files. I believe different boards require different file types, but they should be pretty universal with any board on which you can modify fonts and blade styles.

[silk jacinth]

https://x.com/MrBrecken/status/1813398143691534730?s=19

Lord Yord (@MrBrecken) on X

"Sol did WHAT"

Twitter · Jul 17, 2024, 2:19 AM

[nova slate]

I see they interrupted Yoda's daily ketamine bender for this news

[proud notch]

Ketamine user Yoda is some deep cut legends lore

[hoary star]

The real answer is so that they could say they put him in the show, there's nothing actually gained by showing him

[proud notch]

Season 2 setup

[potent cape]

the real answer is because we crave lil cute gremlins in caves to build theories around

[weary sable]

Little? Cute?? Hell no.
But he is a gremlin, and I will give you that.

[potent cape]

coward

[weary sable]

Weirdo,,, /lhj

[wild cove]

he looks like a mind flayer

https://tenor.com/view/mind-flayer-dnd-monster-dungeons-and-dragons-gif-14710185

[cosmic siren]

Is it bad of me that I’m seriously disappointed in channels like Star Wars theory. Dude has a massive audience and instead of portraying the acolyte like it really is he proceeds to intentionally spread false information to people who won’t listen to literally anything else

[visual crater]

Stop giving him any attention. Even negative attention benefits clowns like that.

[cosmic siren]

Trust me now that the shows over I probably won’t click on his channel again

[visual crater]

I've never looked at his channel, he's not on my radar and I'm all the better for it. I have no clue what he's saying or doing. So I can't be bothered by the nonsense.

[visual crater]

If you know it's trash, rage/click bait, why click at all??

[cosmic siren]

Cus I had hope that he might have some good comments?

Something at least

[wild cove]

he makes boat loads of money from people clicking on his videos so it's in his interest to be as extreme as possible

[visual crater]

Now you know better.

[wild cove]

he hasn't discussed SW in good faith for years

[visual crater]

I'd wager 20-30% of his viewing audience is people who hate what he has to say.

[wild cove]

Yea definitely

[tight sierra]

Me if I ever meet Theory

[cosmic siren]

My man has far larger an audience than someone like generation tech for example who’s been quite supportive of the show. Dude can afford to not be straight toxic XD

[wild cove]

it doesn't really matter if people agree with him or not so long as they click/ and or link his videos

[visual crater]

I wouldn't know him from Adam.

[cosmic siren]

Star Wars has always been about hope

[tight sierra]

Who the fuck is Adam

[visual crater]

Not only afford it, but it's what makes him successful.

[visual crater]

Exactly

[wild cove]

https://tenor.com/view/adam-adam-groundhog-gif-4565631080853333067

[visual crater]

But that's YouTube. Not Star Wars.

[vast plank]

knowing him what if he socks u

[weary sable]

Sock him back?? With a baseball bat?? Damn, if he hits you first you got the right to defend yourself by law.

[cosmic siren]

If ever I met him I’d say some shit like “off the record, do your videos accurate portray how you see the acolyte or is it playing to the algorithm for the sake of profit”

And his answer would determine how I’d go from there

[visual crater]

https://tenor.com/view/thursday-morning-gif-3452382699452419355

[vast plank]

https://tenor.com/view/didnt-read-lol-star-wars-theory-niatoos-gif-21767179

[visual crater]

Why would he answer you truthfully? You'd get the YouTube personality, not real life.

[cosmic siren]

Then one of us might be walking away with out kneecaps. I won’t say who but im sure you can guess

[wild cove]

wouldn't be worth it tbh mate

[cosmic siren]

Idk man. The dark side is quite attractive

Have you seen those arms?

[weary sable]

HEY.

[visual crater]

He'd turn into content anyway. "I was attacked by the woke Mafia"

He benefits from any attention at all. The only way to affect him is to pretend he doesn't even exist.

[weary sable]

Boycott SWT? No problem, he's never on my feed anyways.

[weary sable]

Also, what was this??

[potent cape]

SWT? the guy who wanted to see Plag in the Acolyte?
The guy who complained when he saw Plag in the Acolyte?

[cosmic siren]

The guy who won’t shut the hell up about his saber shop?

[weary sable]

The guy whose saber shop is highkey shit because it marks up?

[proud notch]

The guy who said filoni took his Ahsoka script

(and the guy who wanted them to bring back Darth fucking maul in Ahsoka)

[visual crater]

Adam?

[proud notch]

Adam from Hazbin Hotel?

[cosmic siren]

XD seriously?

[proud notch]

All I can think of when I hear Adam is that one meme of that duck Adam

[proud notch]

Yeahhhhh

He says he wants good stories but then his good story is just bring back mace windu to have Vader kill him again

[cosmic siren]

I know samljackson would be down to bring windu back but I legitimately hope we never see the character again post empire

[weary sable]

I really wanna read SWT's fanfic since I'm morbidly curious about the quality, and also the "Force Freeze" thing interests me, unfortunately.

[proud notch]

I don't want to talk too much on him but it's extremely disappointing that he's the biggest SW YouTuber

[potent cape]

force freeze like the thing kylo does?

[cosmic siren]

My guy says he hasn’t had fun with Star Wars since mando 2 but at the end of the acolyte says how he wishes it could’ve been fun like in ahsoka or what ever

[weary sable]

Apparently it's literal Cryokinesis?

To be fair, we've seen a form of Pyrokinesis performed by Sidious, though that used Sith Magic.

[weary sable]

Again, I'm morbidly curious.

[proud notch]

That's valid

I'm just being extra

[proud notch]

If guy hasn't had fun with star wars, then why doesn't he expand into other franchises or just talk about legends? Like I haven't had fun with Halo but I'm not about to spend my days being like "343 bad"

[potent cape]

I think he secretly loves it, but doesn't feel like such adoration gets as much views.

[cosmic siren]

I legitimately hope that this is the case

[proud notch]

He kinda has this approach with Andor, but in reverse

[cosmic siren]

I honestly genuinely hope that is what’s up

[potent cape]

It doesn't matter either way. He makes trash content and no one should pay attention to him.

[proud notch]

He doesn't like it, but he will get clapped by his audience if he doesn't say it's good

Idk if I was him, I'd just go back into Legends and never talk about Disney canon, god knows there's enough content in Legends

Old Republic isn't dead yet

[weary sable]

Omw to become a Star Wars YouTuber with excessively positive content.

[proud notch]

Based

[potent cape]

Lots of people can't seem to differentiate 'bad' and 'not enjoyable' as well.

Or can't word actual criticisms properly.

[cosmic siren]

weekly short of how sexy qimir is

[weary sable]

Yes.

[proud notch]

I feel like there's also an additional thing where the concept of okay, middle, or average is just non-existent in cultural discourse

[potent cape]

Yup it's either amazing or shit

[cosmic siren]

I love how noticeably shorter qimirs second saber is

[proud notch]

Smol bean

[cosmic siren]

I feel like with ahsoka her shoto was only slightly shorter, barely noticeable. Like either saber could very well be a primary. Where as qimirs thing looks like it’s half the length of his primary

[proud notch]

It feels like the last time I heard a movie was just average was like Force Awakens

[cosmic siren]

It doesn’t help now either that mid apparently means bad

[proud notch]

Wookieepedia also described it as a lightdagger, which idk if that's supposed to be different from a shoto

There are only two genders: good and bad

[nova slate]

Well when you’re raised on exclusively “black and white” “blue and red” dichotomy stories while also living under a system that encourages that kinda thinking, you’re gonna be less willing to see a grey areas. Not to mention the amount of people who never really outgrew their high school ideology of “maybe the curtains are just blue” will make it even harder to see nuance in stories

[proud notch]

Based and nuancepilled

[potent cape]

For japanese swords, a shoto is usually 30-60cm. Shorter than that is a tanto.

Roughly

[weary sable]

In the world of Star Wars though, a Shoto and a Lightdagger are synonymous iirc

[potent cape]

It's possible his shorter saber is only 1 shaku in length but I also don't know if it's different for the star wars universe lol

[cosmic siren]

I’ve also personally noticed a push on how it’s impossible to be grey in Star Wars. Even referring to in universe people seem to be convinced there is no in between you are either light or dark, grey is impossible apparently

[potent cape]

It's been said that you cannot be both light side and dark side, though.

[cosmic siren]

And yet the je’daii thrived for thousands of years doing just that

[proud notch]

Grey in SW would probably be like Ahsoka, a force sensitive who sticks to the light and is not a Jedi

[potent cape]

Which aren't canon.

And weren't really ever solidly canon

[cosmic siren]

Canon be damned it’s all Star Wars

Until a time when canon directly contradicts it legends still stands

[potent cape]

Yeah it is. But if you're trying to have a discussion about a cohesive universe, talking about stuff that was never actually canon doesn't help lol

[weary sable]

Something about Disney canon confirming that once you use the Dark Side, you're stuck with it, right? That balance is physically impossible?

[proud notch]

I mean, you can come back from the dark side, Kylo and Vader both do

[cosmic siren]

Difference being though that they had someone to pull them back. They didn’t do it on their own

[proud notch]

||Cal Kestis|| does too, though we don't know where his story will end

[nova slate]

You can, but they’re often treated as exceptions to the rules

[cosmic siren]

Even the s2 Jedi holocron references this

Cal is no exception either as he had Merrin to pull him back

[weary sable]

They don't seem to retain any Dark Side though, it seems. It feels like an on/off switch, outside of ||Cal Kestis, but he's a fucking videogame character||.

[potent cape]

You either fall into the dark side forever, or are redeemed. There's no straddling the line in the middle

[weary sable]

^

[cosmic siren]

I legitimately hate George for saying that light is balance. We seen what a thousand years of light did to the galaxy.

[nova slate]

It’s hard to make your universe nuanced and grey when your entire magic system that’s kinda gotten people interested in the series is so heavily focused on “good and evil” with no room for the middle. They’ve been doing a decent job trying to flesh it out, making the Jedi more human and making mistakes, but unless they actually re-write the system (or god forbid actually abandon it) SW is sorta stuck in the black and white

[weary sable]

^

[potent cape]

It can be cosmically black/white and more nuanced on a personal level.

[cosmic siren]

The galaxy during the time of the prequels may be “at peace” but it is certainly not in balance.

This is something I will absolutely fucking fight XD

[potent cape]

The issue isn't the light. It's the connection to the senate.

[nova slate]

and overconfidence it would seem

[narrow lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-theory-that's-from-my-script-thats-from-my-script-my-script-star-wars-gif-13424801206257397343

The live SWT reaction lol

[cosmic siren]

Legit want to see that XD

[cosmic siren]

They’re sedate, stuck in their ways, overconfident. They legitimately refused to believe there was a sith out there until quigon death and I’m confident that they would’ve still discounted it if it wasn’t for obiwan having survived and defeated maul himself

[potent cape]

This also isn't a problem with the light. This is a problem with the jedi.

[nova slate]

the human error when controlling the power of what can be equated to Gods

[narrow lotus]

I honestly love how Warcraft has been leaning into the fanatical zealotry of the Light over the last few expansions. Portrayed as "the good side" since the first RTS game a now it's reaching a tipping point.
Current Star Wars seems to be going the same way that either extreme is "out of balance".

[weary sable]

I mean we're seeing that unfold with the Acolyte and what Sol did.

[cosmic siren]

I would argue this is actually an issue with the light. They’ve been bathed in the light for so long because the Jedi refuse to see any other way. They genuinely believe their own hype that much that they’re brainwashed into thinking they are the ultimate good in the galaxy.

[nova slate]

Weirdly enough I think it's a good analogy to younger generations leaving the faiths of their families, as they probably don't feel the same about it as their family, and in some cases can break them apart

[weary sable]

When you go into the Dark, you lose your sight.
Stare into the Light, and you will go blind.

[cosmic siren]

Exactly this

[potent cape]

A flaw of people.

Unless you want to look at the legends characters who were so into the light that they were functionally immortal because they reached an enlightened state of peace

[weary sable]

Jedi Master Fay be like:

The fact that her longevity was described as "a reward from the Force", as well...

(I think, don't quote me on that)

[potent cape]

Basically yeah lol

A basically divine incarnation of Good isn't the problem

People are shitheads, that's the problem

[nova slate]

Misinterpretations happen, especially when your divine figure doesn't have a host or any real way to communicate clearly. We've seen wars and crusades due to these the figureheads choosing to utilize their power for personal gain. It's not necessarily the problem of the belief, but the problem of those who use it to further themselves

[potent cape]

Yeah

And when the govt you're attached to means you can't go out of your way to free slaves :^)

[weary sable]

"We can take the Chosen One, but we sure as hell can't relocate his mother and ensure her safety to give him some peace of mind."

"This decision will have a negligible impact on our future."

[nova slate]

really shitty of the council but I can also see why they wouldn't. It would involve probably getting the Republic involved in the outer rim, a place they have little jurisdiction over, and then would have to deal with the Hutt crime empire, which is another thorn in the side to deal with. Far from impossible for them, but the politics of it unfortunately make sense. Definitely could have led a covert ops mission though to get her out

[potent cape]

That's my point. The jedi were too attached to the republic.

[weary sable]

The Jedi could've done that operation discreetly, as well.

It wouldn't be hard to reason with, pay, or heck even kill Watto and dismantle the detonator on Shmi if it came down to it.

[nova slate]

they're like that one relative who's super straight-edge and really strict, but you find out that they were the college kid with a Che shirt and went to a buncha protests, etc etc

[weary sable]

They care more about preserving life than what "life" entails.

This is why Anakin's lesson was "live or die", not "survive or die".

[proud notch]

If you want a universe with light and dark and both sides can be good and evil, have I got the franchise for you

DESTINY

We have @vast plank

[nova slate]

I already got rid of that addiction thanks though

[proud notch]

Valid

I like how they made light and dark more nuanced in game during covid and after

Off topic but I did not realize this dude was the chancellor

Drellik is his name apparently

[cosmic siren]

how long does a supreme chancellors term last?

[nova slate]

seems as though it was 2 consecutive 4 year terms, same as irl presidency

[proud notch]

If so, wouldn't that mean that Palpatine was beyond a 2nd term by attack of the clones?

I could've sworn that AotC was 10 years after TPM

[nova slate]

Emergency powers

gridlocked senate idk, whatever works

[cosmic siren]

i believe they even mentioned this in revenge of the sith

[proud notch]

But what would cause emergency powers by then, if this was the case then by republic law he would've been replaced 2 years before AotC

He gets emergency powers in the events of AotC but I don't remember before, though it has been awhile since I've seen Clones

[hoary star]

I didn't think he was supreme chancellor the whole time and a regular one for some of that time

[cosmic siren]

if i had seen it, kelnacca

[hoary star]

He had my vote

[proud notch]

As much as I love Qimir, I had to hand it to Sol

I want to see the full profile of Yord's. I thought it would be two shrouds like Sol's based on that premiere photo, but it appears to have bunny ears instead

[nova slate]

My best guess is that due to Valorum being removed in the middle of his term, they allowed for Palpatinr to take his remaining years in office without affecting his 2 terms

[proud notch]

Valorum got ousted in the middle of his term? Huh...

If so I redact my statements

[nova slate]

Well I mean they had Amidala call for a vote of no confidence which led to him being removed from power which makes me assume he was ousted?

[proud notch]

Yeah it makes sense, it just didn't click to me that he was in the middle of his term

[nova slate]

Ah it says he was more toward the end of his term. But seeing other responses, it looks like the Senate asked him to stay as chancellor to help deal with secessionists joining the CIS, which then eventually led to the war which granted him power long past term limits

Some are saying that the Secessionist movement led to Senate members temporarily abolishing the term limit law as well

[proud notch]

Interesting

The politics in the prequels are always neat to learn about

[tight sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-exited-cute-slam-smack-table-gif-16423138

QIMIR'S HELMET IS JUST MAGNETO'S HELMET

[weary sable]

That's not as important as the fact that it's a sensory deprivation device.

The stuff you could do with that, knowing that it's sensory deprivation...

[cosmic siren]

the fact that qimir is going all of this stuff pretty much just through his use of the force

[weary sable]

He fights with Force Sense.

Remember how Palpatine said the Sith were superior to the Jedi in ability and had outgrown the need for lightsabers?

I feel like Qimir's skill in the Force is not helping the counterargument.

[tight sierra]

Whoops my hand slipped

He broke the hand plate and it'll need sanding to remove the excess glue but whatever

[weary sable]

OH SHIT

THAT'S SICKKKKK

[hoary star]

I mean... It's not entirely wrong

[nova slate]

special metal helmet made to counter their main enemy? ✅
Blocks out telepathic abilities?✅
slightly benefits powers for user?✅

[hoary star]

Isn't the third one the differing point?

[nova slate]

apparently magneto's helmet gives him limited telepathic abilities due to how it interacts with his powers according to marvel so i guess not

[cosmic siren]

So since we have a bled crystal now. I wanna see someone in live action purify a crystal

[tight sierra]

Report him for assault and battery, lawyer up, hit the gym, delete Facebook again.

[median ocean]

We got a bled crystal in Survivor. Although not live action I wish we got a bleeding sequence where the saber uses the force to fight back. Same thing for the purifying process it would be cool to see some more challenge to it other a someone mad.

Osha’s bled crystal was kinda disappointing because it wasn’t an intentional process like previous implications make it seem it needed to be. Anakin had gotten pretty mad at those Tuskens and savagely wiped out a whole tribe and somehow his didn’t bleed. But Osha gets upset for 2 seconds with barely any force power control and it bleeds

[wild cove]

I don’t think they thought about it too hard and just decided it would be a cool visual. It does have unfortunate implications for the lore

[uncut kayak]

I've heard some interesting theories behind it

one being something along the lines of sols connection to that crystal was already kind of corrupted due to his grief/guilt over 16 years which made it easier for the crystal to be bled by Osha who at the time was only fuelled by anger

[uncut kayak]

i think the crystal has to be exposed/touched in order for it to be bled

[cosmic siren]

I’m thinking the same because sols saber was damaged to a point where osha could touch the crystal. And we seen anakin, Ben, and dagen open their sabers to get access to the crystals to bleed them

[potent cape]

Yeah they kinda made it pretty obvious that the crystal was very exposed with multiple shots of it.

[uncut kayak]

I genuinely think a lot of people completely missed those shots

because people talk about it only turning red after osha ignites it

[potent cape]

I saw this comment which I vibe with

[light ermine]

Love this take, wish more people had this line of thinking. Especially when it comes to space magic, I don't think it needs to conform to a set A, B, C because that makes it less mystical

[narrow lotus]

what do you mean "barely any force power control"?
she's channeling the dark side and force-choking Sol to death while physically touching the exposed kyber crystal

[silk jacinth]

Maybe if you touch it?

Or focused on the crystal?

[narrow lotus]

Kylo was clenching his crystal in his fist

and his broke

[cosmic siren]

he still took the crystal out of his saber. i think the only one who didnt physically take the crystal out was dagen but he still had the crystal matrix exposed

[narrow lotus]

so by that and the scene with Osha, it can inferred that physical contact makes it easier / allows more "energy" to the shoved into it in a shorter time

since Vader and Dagan just "meditated" on theirs and it seemingly took more effort

[narrow lotus]

he did, it was floating in the air before the camera panned to Cal

think you can also see him putting it back in once he bleeds it too

[cosmic siren]

alright never mind then XD i never got to that point in survivor, i only watched other peoples cut scenes in the background

[potent cape]

It's still like pretty obvious that Sols crystal was exposed.

[tight sierra]

Exposure

[nova slate]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTNawgeG1/

[vast plank]

When your content has devloved from Shitty fanfics to bitching/whining/grifting online

[weary sable]

LMAOOOOOO

[narrow lotus]

Theory proving more and more he's just a Prequels fanboi simping for the character you're not actually supposed to be rooting for Anakin

can't even separate the EU/Legends fanfiction from canon anymore lol
oddly enough though, seems like he never actually read the Darth Plagueis novel anyway since all of his arguments are just made up on stuff that never happened in it

[vast plank]

If Prequels or Clone Wars came out today he'd have a whole plethora of excuses and other BS lined up

• Why is Anakin such a moody bitch? Can't they write main characters better smh.
• Can they stfu about politics? I don't give a shit about corruption in the senate, I just wanna see Jedi slicing droids in half.
• Why does Padme have such weird hairdos? It is soo distracting, can they pls make her bland, I can't focus on the scene.
• UGH why tf is Palpatine and Yoda doing all of these acrobatics, wtf is this? Cirque du Soleil? I wanna see some 7th Saumrai Katana bashing

You can't win with these cunts lmao

they know exactly what they are doing

[foggy saffron]

hes just a sexist weirdo who thinks every new sw show is not canon cause it contradicts the eu

[silk jacinth]

He is moron

I never liked him

[vast plank]

not if this is Deja Vu I swear I just saw a post in LFG with the exact same pfp and name in the D2 LFG queuing for WR Final boss

wtf is reality

am I going insane

[foggy saffron]

same

[foggy saffron]

yes

[vast plank]

I used to watch his shitty fan fics back in the sequel era

I was a dumb kid back then lmao

his content has dipped straight down ever since he did his face reveal

https://tenor.com/view/didnt-read-lol-star-wars-theory-niatoos-gif-21767179

[silk jacinth]

The open mouth thumbnails

Cringe

[vast plank]

Install Channel Blocker

YT experience 100% better cause of it

[potent cape]

I literally have never seen one of his videos in my feed.

truly blessed.

[silk jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/umbridge-dolores-harry-potter-gif-13824380

[cosmic siren]

if ever you see one click the little "dont recommend channel" button

[potent cape]

I didn't notice her veins, not sure if intentional or just her veins but it's a nice touch

[cosmic siren]

is it just me or does it seem like sols crystal was dislodged from its housing?

[nova slate]

I sure hope it’s intentional, cause that would be a pretty cool visual

[cosmic siren]

plot twist. its not intentional. justs just got really noticable black veins in her hands XD

[proud notch]

It was

For me, it makes me wonder how it's working

[cosmic siren]

legit, im surprised im not seeing mor outrage for how the sabers are working still

crystal was dislodged, emitter was knocked off. saber somehow still works

[weary sable]

Oh his fanfics were on video?? This whole time I thought I'd be able to read them and react.

I'm not watching his videos bruh, hard pass.

[potent cape]

every saber seems to be unique in some way, this isn't really an issue

[weary sable]

Someone needs to send and subsequently pin this in one of the non-spoiler channels after the Spoiler Embargo ends in two weeks because I feel like more people need to see and hear this.

[cosmic siren]

huyang up here having a fucking fit XD

[potent cape]

Look at Kylo's

the crystal is right near the top too

probably still visible through the top

[nova slate]

Who knows if the rotation of the crystal also matters?

[cosmic siren]

huyang still definitely having a fit somewhere in peridea

[vast plank]

Back in the day, lets say 2015-2017
most of his "content" was copying wiki articles to make fanfics.

What if Windu prevented Anakin from turning to the Darkside
What if Anakin killed Palps
What if Windu killed Palps

etc

etc

most of them were the copy-paste format type of videos

but they were "somewhat" entertaining, dude built his fanbase with those types of videos

[nova slate]

Most likely, using a busted up lightsaber is pretty shameful, but for what needed to get the job done? Could be worse options

[vast plank]

gradually as the sequels wrapped up he did his face reveal and adopted to a more commentary style of content

it was ok at first

but I guess after the "disappointment" of TLJ and TROS he started really relying on the whiney bitch content

it was 0k and a bit tame at first but then it got insufferable

I used to watch him back in the *let's jut say * post TFA era

most of his "fanfics" would have the same twists and stuff was more "hopeful" back then cause people thought the Snoke character was a new idea and completely isolated from Palpatine

I agreed with his takes regarding the sequels I am not ashamed to admit back then

and still do agree to some aspects

but I am just tired of the fucking negativity

now he just nitpicks every tiny thing

there was also some drama with him and a "fan" whom he removed from his "group chat" or something for calling him out on which was just immature

[silk jacinth]

Don't forget his Vader fan film

[weary sable]

I was more interested in his OC who apparently developed Force Freeze (Cryokinesis) after being stranded on an ice planet.

Which I think was the inspo behind his tactical missile saber that SP designed before he quit sabers altogether.

Like... I could see that working but knowing Theory it's probably badly executed.... I wanna see how badly.

[potent cape]

Cryo and Pyro force powers actually make a lot of sense

It'd really just be either slowly particles down to 0, or speeding them up.

both are things the force should be able to do

[weary sable]

We've already seen a form of Pyrokinesis as well in Rebels, albeit through Sith Magic.

[vast plank]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ucDw_VcSzk

[silk jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-and-robin-action-arnold-scharzenegger-mr-freeze-lets-kick-some-ice-gif-3473766

[vast plank]

Niatoos was a total cunt to this guy

the funny part is the dumbass fans actually agree with him lmao

Dude cannot take any criticism

[silk jacinth]

I don't understand his obsesion with Order 66 and Op Knightfall

[weary sable]

I feel bad for whoever got shit on by Theory.

[vast plank]

I honestly feel bad for the dude

he didn't deserve that at all

https://new.reddit.com/r/saltierthankrayt/comments/p9wxr4/everything_wrong_with_star_wars_theory/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

dude's fans have become a hive mind

[weary sable]

Theory not liking the High Republic sounds wild to me given how much people praise it.

Also, the fact that Lucasfilm themselves shunned him is fucking wild.

[vast plank]

and I reckon he attracts more politically motivated people nowadays than actual Star Wars fans

[weary sable]

"He uses the fact that he was bullied as a kid to excuse his behaviour," is the absolute most disgusting thing on there, to me personally.

I was bullied as a kid and I use it as motivation to try my best and be understanding and open-minded, not to tear down others.

That's like actually horrible what the fuck. It's the same mentality as parents who abuse their kids because they were abused.

[nova slate]

I was gonna say, hasn’t he aligned himself with some pretty sketchy dudes as of recently?

[vast plank]

Star Wars creators on YT are cunts to begin with

most were good but have turned bad

[weary sable]

*Aside from a select few.

[vast plank]

agreed

most plagirize and peddle the same brain-rot

EC Henry is now one of my favourites

[vast plank]

the "hate-bait" crowd

Star War bad cause POC whamen in it

waah waaah

same BS we have been hearing since TLJ

FYI, I disliked TLJ too

but never ever for the reasons as the people with a charged "agenda"

[nova slate]

It’s far from my favorite, but it has its moments. Pacing was mostly the weird part to me

[weary sable]

Again. I told an old lady that people were calling The Acolyte woke for having a black female with two moms as the main character and she deadass replied "That's it?" to me with the most "bruh" tone an old lady can muster.

It's wild what people will hate on.

It's crazy that I can't openly be a Sequel Fan without a target on my back.

[vast plank]

It's not just that

[weary sable]

But you know what? I don't give a shit anymore. The Force Awakens is my favourite Star Wars movie of all time. All the haters can smd.

[vast plank]

I think they dislike Lesley Headland cause she is gay or something

also cause Amandla is a Nepo baby

also since Lesley was Weinstiens secretary or something

IDK hollywood gossip is trashy lmao

[vast plank]

more power to yousa

[nova slate]

She is? I thought that was part of their hate tactics

[vast plank]

She is Queer? IDK

I don't pay attention to that sort of stuff

They don't liker her cause it has something do with gay stuff or something

[weary sable]

Nah I think it's because she's queer.

[nova slate]

Huh. Well good for her then

[weary sable]

She's an active advocate of queer rights + she's lesbian + demigender (like yours truly).

[vast plank]

People got mad when an interview mentioned that the Acolyte was the gayest show ever

whatever that means?

[weary sable]

The irony that most of the chemistry is between Qimir and Osha. You know, a heterosexual couple.

[nova slate]

I can think of 3 shows that can easily take that spot

[vast plank]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO8as9S7LL0&sttick=0

[weary sable]

Love, Victor ought to be one of them since it's literally about gay people.

[vast plank]

Also Amandla made that video on Instagram?

[weary sable]

Our Flag Means Death is apparently also pretty gay and people loved that.

[potent cape]

Surprised no one got mad at the trans actress in Acolyte

[vast plank]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVW5ogmNijg

[proud notch]

Yes and Vernestra's actress is her wife

[nova slate]

HUH

BASED

[weary sable]

Willing to be all the straight men are jealous of Leslye Headland for scoring a hottie.

Like I'm gay and I will admit that Vernestra's actress is hot LOL

[vast plank]

ofc she is born in the same city as me

BRUH

[proud notch]

I think theres an argument to made about the nepotism or whatever but that's not what people are making normally

[nova slate]

Yea but counterpoint: woman with short hair is basically man which makes it gay/s

[potent cape]

still sad they made her bald lol

[silk jacinth]

G&G, Mauler, The Critical Drinker and those pricks

[proud notch]

Bruh I figured everyone would get so mad an actual leftist trans philospher would be in the show but everyone forgot about Abigail thorn

[vast plank]

like I said, I don't really pay attention to things like that,
If you are gay, good for you

People care way too much about the personal lives of celebs

like it's none of my business

[potent cape]

I had no idea either until yesterday.

It's not noticeable.

[proud notch]

Also I read that reddit post, kinda shit of him to clown on SWE, like why would you try to antagonize Alex and Molly? They're so sweet

[vast plank]

but YTers are worse than tabloids

[weary sable]

Gods gender standards make me so mad.
Men can have long hair but women with short hair are too boyish?
Women wearing pants is fine, but guys wearing skirts is too much?
If something applies one way then it should apply the other way, no?

[vast plank]

Acolyte bad cause Lesley gay
wojack face

[nova slate]

1 reason and 1 reason only: clout

[vast plank]

https://tenor.com/view/thealexera-soyjak-surprised-amazed-wojak-gif-19919803

[weary sable]

It stirs drama, and therefore attention, which in this age means money.

[silk jacinth]

When I take off my glasses

[vast plank]

YT is such a cesspit

[nova slate]

Oh no guys with long hair are still considered weird in the gender standards. It’s just easier to justify as some manly shit if you look good.

[tight sierra]

The Andrew Taint of Star Wars

[vast plank]

It is such brain rot

[vast plank]

eff that dude

2 bit grifter

what colour is your bugatti

I traffick women

and sell courses on how to become billionaire

[silk jacinth]

His fight with Greta was the best thing ever

[vast plank]

IDK why people give that guy any attention

I saw a post where he openly said the N-word on Twitter

[silk jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/no-gif-20004736

[tight sierra]

Didn't they marry after the show wrapped

[proud notch]

They married after?

I did not know this

[tight sierra]

I'm asking you

[vast plank]

can't make this shit up

[tight sierra]

I didn't even know they were in a relationship

[potent cape]

2016

[proud notch]

I have no idea, I just know Rebecca Henderson and Headland are romantically involved

[proud notch]

Based /j

[vast plank]

Twitter is such a cesspit

[potent cape]

really helps to curate your own feed.

[silk jacinth]

Twitter with Musk is worse than ever

Bots, grifters and more shit

[weary sable]

Reasons I've started migrating to Bluesky.

[silk jacinth]

Is it good?

[tight sierra]

You can buy an account verification, and you can get money through verification by the amount of interactions your account gets, and you can also buy bots to increase your account's interactions

[weary sable]

It takes some getting used to, but I've enjoyed it thus far.

[silk jacinth]

Also that

The only good thing is the community notes

Other than that it sucks

[weary sable]

Twitter Community Notes clowning on people is one of my favourite genres of internet.

[silk jacinth]

(Twitter)

[weary sable]

Also, it's crazy to me that people get mad when you call "X" Twitter.
Like oh so you'll deadname your niece but start giving a shit when it's an online platform? Fuck off.

[silk jacinth]

Specially when Musk gets noted

[vast plank]

Okay so maybe it's just me but I feel like all social media platforms around days of contribute to the enshitification of the overall user experience.

Twitter to me has always felt like a echo chamber for celebrities other influencers to whine and bitch about brain rot.

Also ever since Musk took over, it just feels like open season for everything under the guise of free speech LOL

[potent cape]

Yes. But it also depends on how you cultivate your own feeds.

Like my Twitter feed is fine, I barely see toxic shit and I'm on the app a lot

[nova slate]

If it weren’t for Musk having other companies already to help with shit I’d have been surprised that it made it past the first month when he fired everyone and fucked over the servers

[weary sable]

Me when all I use Twitter for is to follow the artists I like.

A lot of Japanese artists use Twitter and Pixiv, but since Pixiv as a platform is primarily in Japanese, I use Twitter to keep up with them lol

[potent cape]

Yeah i use pixiv for that. Joys of knowing the language lol

If people interact with shit, you're going to see more shit.

So if you don't want to see it, remove it when you do. Ez.

[nova slate]

I just hate that twitter changed the viewing experience to where you can only view things chronologically if you have an account

Like I’m trying to figure out if there’s any network issues, not trying to see tweets from 3 years ago

[weary sable]

Aw dang, I'm jealous. Reading Katakana doesn't come to me easily, not to mention learning JP on top of KR is a bit difficult ^^;;

[vast plank]

This really doesn't matter whatsoever from what I've seen at all.

I got into the Tiktok space back in 2022. My feed was mostly Star Wars and Gym related stuff cause those were the sort of clips that I went towards. But around 2023 Tiktok pushed content I never cared for at all. Now IK they have a super stalky track you all the time FYP algorithm, but they kept feeding me sludge content (screen split on have with some random crafts on one sand and a clip of some movie on another), grifty get rich quick "finance" content and "reddit stories" even though I never searched for any of em whatsoever

Twitter also has a habit of showing be celebrity tabloids which I don't really care about at all and pushes irrelevent garbage too

I only maintain a Twitter account for video game updates exclusively

[potent cape]

I don't use tiktok so I can't comment on that,
But my Twitter feed is basically cool art, or mtg/40k stuff lol I don't really see anything else

[vast plank]

Most of these social media sites feed you "suggested" content which is either

1. irrelevant
2. controversial bait (politics, gossip, trashy drama etc)

[potent cape]

The suggested content I see.

[vast plank]

Also Reddit pretty much feeds all my news needs anyway

they also used to do the suggested BS but you can turn it off and it stops