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Isn't Kleavor also fine into Tytar
alright what are some common leads for sun and why ?
Sharpness x scissor must do good damage right
Venu + Zard, Zard + Whimsi, Zard + Garchomp
Zard + Sneasler
im having trouble leading right
Bug coverage our goat!!!
Silver powder Kleavor
Im not running whimsi LMAO
252 Atk Sharpness Kleavor X-Scissor vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Tyranitar-Mega: 150-176 (72.4 - 85%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Using EVs since I can’t find the champions calculator
maybe i should
Better damage than I expected
Fairy Aura kinda just cancels the berry out anyway
I've become a balance beta
so do i always lead zard?
balance is the best way to play
its sm fun problem solving
Tearful look is kinda cooked too, what do you mean it's like parting shot but hits through protect 🤣
Only until my gal Pina is back
You can kill Mega Dnite thru Multiscale
Fuck I have to think?
https://pokepast.es/354b677f8f3e6f5a What should my 6th pokemon be?
That is why I call him fraud chomp ✌
Well 1. You're not gonna like my answer
2. On the other thing, it's Mega Floette
FUHHHHHHHHHHHH
I think any attack Mega Floette fires off that's SE is just killing
I don't want to waste hours fighting npcs 😭😭😭
Too many numbers
Whats even the point of a 2nd mega If I'm allready using zard? Don't you use zard in EVERY battle?
Araquanid's Water Bubble Liquidation with Mystic Water and Helping Hand in Rain is 688 BP right?
I wasn't suggesting Floette to you I was suggesting Garchomp but ok
Where?
I said you weren't gonna like my answer when you asked for a 6th
85 (Liquidation) x2 (Water Bubble) x1.5 (STAB) x1.5 (Rain) x1.5 (Helping Hand) x1.2 (Mystic Water) = 688 Base Power
Am I doing that calculation correct or are the multipliers additive?
I understand why but nah I hate the thing and wouldn't go that low
and I'm not wasting hours fighting ncps in za so :/
Just use a damage calc
what are some examples I don't
I have discovered I have an issue with hard trickroom
You mean just Torkoal right
Nah just lost to a mega agron team
Mega Aggron is not that common so probably not get that on your head for too long
But yeah you basically have nothing against IDBP aggron
Anyone else able to help?
tofu you still aroun
I think im going to keep trying to make mega dnite work
Maybe I have to build around it
Why? Ice and frig hard counter it
Guys is there any way to change age 😭😭
tera fairy farig on yo draco😱
lmao
Ts too annoying man
Abilty stop extreme speed
Yeah... It runs extreme speed
and the bulk ain't saving it either. Even with multiscale ✌
I think bro was on the previous update
how i feel running Upper Hand
and then they flare blitz
there's no room for espeed
You don’t even run that anyway
why espeed on mega dnite…?
He’s the same guy who ragebaits using Lugia
Ignore it
Everyone uses e speed on dnite??? 😭
so are you running physical mega dragonite?
halo stimyk
Its literally a free ko on any mon on low hp 🤦♂️
but you don't have room for it
YOU don't 😭
just
KO them normally?
@dull ibex just ignore atp
bro every dnite runs Draco Hurricane Coverage and protect
literally
what is stopping you from
clicking a regular move 😭
i thought it was 2atk tw protect
hihi 
which is jus hurricane draco as the 2 atk
it really depends on the team
well
tw/coverage is interchangeable
why run tw on both peli and dragonite ya know
i’ve run tw for teams that don’t have whims
Kills sash whim before it can do anything more?
so the coverage could be espeed
just move before it does?
Tell me you're a larper without telling me you're a larper 💔
do you even know what larp means
stop being toxic
Yes, being a fake fan of something and acting like your are
buddy a larper is someone who larps
live action role player
i met her irl at vancouver regionals where have u been?
could say the same about you lmao
The stimky
very she didn’t let me buy her coffee!!!!
it takes a larper to know one
So you're not chronically online, got it
y'all gotta stop engaging in these dumb conversations these people don't deserve the attention you give them
Just let that guy rot
im tryina rot rn
He does not deserve any sort of attention
i just finished working #TuckMeIn
Bro is gonna rot on Balance
"just move before whim does" Do you even know what it does 🤦♂️
yes!
ah well 
i think i’m gonna go cook up a storm again 
im tera fire here so im resisting moonblast
cuz i didn’t want u to spend money on me 
#Rottinginbedplayingbalance
ok well hope you enjoy a dinner paid for
Idk why I feel hungry even tho it’s 4:37 am
So explain to me without priority (e speed) how you attack whim before it does anything
Just git gud
#Aura image
mhm my treat
last i checked
whimsicott doesn’t have any priority damaging moves asides from endeavour.
so.
yknow
if they set up tailwind, what’s stopping you from matching it on that turn :D
so like
just be faster than it lol
Yeah they set up tail wind before you attack. That can be prevented with e speed 😭
e speed can ohko a whimsicott-?
didn’t know that lol
must be -defense nature 0 bulk whimsicott
especially a sash one
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Kills sash whim before it can do anything more?
meanwhile i’m sure you have pure power max attack choice band tera normal extreme speed mega dragonite right?
now this sounds awesome sauce
i kinda wanna try that lol
If you actaully read my messages before hand I clealy said it in a scenario where a pokemon is low on hp/ whimsacott after using sash
it gets 1 moves off and done e speed it next turn

0 Atk Dragonite-Mega Extreme Speed vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Whimsicott: 42-50 (31.1 - 37%) -- 79.7% chance to 3HKO
it sets up tailwind anyways
what’s the point then lol
just match the tailwind 
Guys how do I workaroumd this age thingy
I actually wanna add friends 😭😭
Bro is a professional arguer how do I come back an hour later and he's still yapping
Encore? Taunt? Moon blast?
its also like the most useless argument too idek what the end game is
and he calls people larpers which is like a self report to stupidity
Real
okay okay
so
you said that
you wanted to finish off the low hp whimsicott, yes?
thinks they know better than everyone when they're hard stuck in ultra ball
The ironical argument really
Bro shot himself in the foot here
Yes
that implies that one turn has already gone by
so
yknow
they prolly clicked tailwind the turn before they were dropped to their sash
don’t forget ur gonna be a -atk nature
which means ur kinda in a losing board state…
and cleaning up the whimsicott just gives them a clean switch in
correct?
Yeah
so then what’s the point of running extreme speed?
if it’s gonna net you in a worse position
No? Whim is the devil it knows so many priorty moves that can screw you over
Mega Dnite is not Mega Mence 
Bro ain’t have that luxury
cool they got a free switch but one of their mon is dead. Who cares 😭
Imma be honest just let bro be wrong
it’s a free switch in plus priority pressure
it’s a lose lose situation no matter what you do lol
He'll figure it out eventually when he starts losing games
so stop acting like you know better when you know you’re in a losing board state no matter what
dahell thta mean
i made a yummy wrap at work today
So you'd rather risk a encore/ taunt screwing you over?
mega Mence run mixed sets before no?
i’d rather use something called protect and remove the whimsicott without priority :D
not that it really matters cuz it’ll be a free switch in for the enemy anyways lol
There’s a clear answer 
or i could switch the pokemon that is susceptible to encore instead 
the latter is prolly better and that’s won me way too many games against whimsicott lol
When you could use any other move to set up/ ko the other mon? Shure you do you
it’s called double battles for a reason 
yall ever thought abt how this guy could be the larper
A laper wouldn't know as much as I know
Very true Emma
Very true
bro can't even spell larper right
It's called a missclick 💔✌
alr bro 😂
back to work~
take care everyone :D
hope you win ur games
have good shifttt
every day i learn some new random ass mon gets fake out
why was this guy running fake out blastoise
I only see that when I play Randbats when there is a support blastoise set
so do i lead basc most of the time with rain?
Ngl
That’s me when Munkidori learns fake out and Parting shot
Bro’s only purpose is just give Incin those moves
simipour !
its a good lead 
aqua jet or flip turn are both good turn 1 options imo
Usually,but depends on what are you fighting
If they lead Gambit then ummm,reposition time
Could simisage and incin be the balance besties in this format
Grass type fake out monkey tho
You can run grassy terrain simisage to larp as rillaboom!
nope nope nope
The balance brainrot on Max is slowly showing
I have been using it exclusively as an endgame mon
i've probably been piloting rain wrong
Basc can be a opener or endgame mon
Just try to figure out what MU is better for which role basc wants to be in
yeah its good for endgame too if you have Last Respects!
I do
i'll use it as an opener against like Charizard and just Wave Crash it
even in sun?
ummm
that’s honestly
up to choice
yea if you have max ATK adaptability basc it kills mega zard y in sun with wave crash
i also use basc as an opener if they have like a whimsicott or something and i'll double priority move into it
Whats the best earthquake user besides garchomp?
Where’s Decidueye when you need it
depends. If the opponent's team is generally weak to basc, you can lead with it. If there are only a few Pokemon that are weak to basc, keep it in the back until you handle your opponent's basc answers so you can use it for late game cleanup
sounds simple enough
ttar don’t get scared but there MIGHT be an apple on yo head😨
so what rain teams are yall running anyhow
mine isn't the best but lemme screenshot it
This one got top 8 in a 200 person tournament, you can try this out
pretty easy team to pilot honestly
how do i pilot sinischa
depends on the situation, sinistcha can be used for a lot of things
If against a very fast team, you can use it as speed control, against balance teams it can be good for longevity with redirection + healing
i’m not running rain but some common ones i’ve seen have basc arch peli as a core and then blastoise/dragonite/manectric as their megas
Rage Powder shit
Strength Sap to disrupt physical attacker and heal
this pretty awesome sauce
yeah pretty similar to the one I posted
i think sturdy is better on Arch right now though
although item choices are... interesting
Ngl I haven’t even change the set lol
you can critique lol
i wasnt sure what to do with it
Unless you are me and don’t give a fuck about basc
maybe im crazy but scarf adapt basc is so hot rn
also white herb sneas girl is awesome for turn 0 unburden
You are still crazy and yes Scarf Adapt Basc works
Without changing the team members, I would give sneasler white herb to more consistently proc unburden and do better against incin. If it's not running scarf adaptability Basculegion should be running protect and mystic water. Sinistcha should run leftovers or mental herb
i agree with you
its what i have on my main team
im taking notes thank u
mothscales has given 1 Gen Rep to ammphibian
all our food keeps blowing up mon
I use rain a lot so
I'm pwetty fwiggin experienced
shuca berry was not really doing much lol
On Sneasler it’s usually not that great
Just run a white herb or Even a Focus Sash
is leftovers still good on archaludon tho? or should i be doing magnet
imo stamina sets are no longer good on archa
I think sturdy sets with a damage boosting item are better
Lefties,Shuca and Chople are good for Stamina
Sturdy just run a damage boosting item
Stalwart is just free focus Sash slot
I’m just too lazy to switch lol
I’ll probably just gonna build another Archaludon with sturdy
Since I have a spare in champions
how would i build an aggressive sand team?
Ttar excadrill sneasler probably
@spiral zealot do u fw the fit
@surreal echo when will you be back m
i do!!! i love the little windbreaker top
im not using it myself bc i dont wanna see that ugly ass pokeball holster belt
I'm just now buying clothes 💀
I spend all of my VP on training mons and then I have none left
Over 100 mons to train I'll just wear what they gave me when I started 😂
I hope we get more customization options, kind of jarring compared to what we had in Z-A
mdb gardevoir is quite strong lol
oh
do you know about the secret indeedee tech…
psychic terrain indeedee with fake out paired with terapagos 
tera the pagos to get rid of the terrain and fake out your opponent lol
simipour fake outs you
simipour…
she gets it!!
sorry but i’m using grassy glide simisage 
budget rillaboom incoming

lol get bent idiot !!
good job
mdb?
michael der beste
Is there a reason why greninja doesn't get nasty plot like on ZA 
Because it wouldn't do much for it if it did tbh 🥲
They made my boy not really worth bringing
I mean they already stabbed protean and left it too die on back alley now they also takeaway nasty plot guess they just don't want greninja too be meta again huh
I have a champions lobby code 7022 8254
Forgot to set doubpes the actual room is 8162 3164
Why is mega gengar ran on rain?
it's mainly ran to synergize with politoed as both get perish song
you dont really see it with pelipper
i mean it does also help into opposing grass types and the floette matchup
Politoed isn't on the teams
generally it is, what team are you looking at?
A bunch of teams from the warm up challenge
Is it worth using rotom heat? (Garchomp has taken the 6th slot)
larp spotted?
How? 😭
have the aerodacytyl special scan already there from my last scan from months ago and took only a few donut rerolls for the alpha 3 sparkling 3 
did have to farm some tangas b4 that but hav a decent amount of the other hyperspace berries so wasnt too bad
tho crowned tundra rng is hard sm random noise and weather effects

I'm currently training my Mega Dragonite Singles team before Ranked. Anything I need to improve on?
Could anyone help me out? I just hit master ball tier about an hour ago and I have a rating of 1,702 is that any good? No idea
only issue to champs rn is
ladder anxiety lmao
Relatively new to comp scene. Is defog worth running in the current meta or am I wasting a move slot
anyone wanna play doubles rn
real lol
im jus trynna remind myself its fun and we are all learning/relearning a completely new format and mechanic
idk how to get over it i get an icky feeling in my chest when i play
like im scared or smth lmao
If it's vgc, don't bother, no such thing as hazards unless it's glimmora
My guy I’m doing that today too lol
haha nice
yea jus gna eat somethin first then do that inna bit, train a few mons nd transfer them over see how it goes lol
think jus a matter of rerolling the mon that is the guaranteed shiny is all it comes down to so hopefully wont take too long
wish i had a fix, usually itll settle for me after a few wins but yea it sucks
Yeah you could even reset cheese until you just spawn a shiny aero too, if you have a lvl 3
yea thats wat i was thinkin from wat i remember
like im so incredibly far behind in ranked to where i should be but, should finally see real teams
ugh the flower demon
welcome to piss elo
anyone wanna play doubles rn
i got to ultra 2 before the teams started to noticeably vary in strategies and i just couldnt fight the teams started to
that ended up being on top
meh it should be more realistic than whatever tf greatball was
ive seen either floette or palafin in every match ive played in the last idk 2 days
rankup game was vs perish rain & the basc was leftovers adaptability
with scale shot lmfao
this would be good instead of random shittier mon who i can’t predict a random set of
knowing is all the more powerful than playing blind
yo bridge is missing 2 stat points
all i know about palafin is wave crash flip turn jet punch and cc
like we dont already have adaptability basculegion to do the same thing
think palafin is strong in its own way
Palafin can do something
iron head on gambit clutch here https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2582937179-usj32h9c87pw77y57e21s27sxewynnjpw
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yeah it can stay away from me
why tf did they eq their own sneasler
they all got a job at mcdonalds
why not
they really wanted gambit dead ig
did gambit die?
nah i protected and called the cc
lmao
i'm gonna rewatch that replay whenever i need a laugh
yo was it on showdown?
yes
gimme see
i'm enjoying iron head on gambit
im debating if i go all in on my original tailroom team around mega aerodactyl and mega amphy or if i do my other idea and all in on a team around mega lopunny and its scrappy ability
i mean if you want to be basic use aerodactyl like everyone
hi im basic
thats the thing
if it works it works
“basic” isnt my style and im sure we (we as in ME and ALL of you) know it
be prepared to lose lots if you're using mega lopunny
i wish kang learnt close combat, i wonder how much low kick does to the fish
basc male
100 bp
i mean that's decent damage right
Y'all think dual mega gengar and gyarados could work? Got a first draft going here https://pokepast.es/975d8e2675ae1a03
meh
low kick feels better than drain punch
i dont think the fish will get ohkod
im sure it will hurt but i think the fih will live
maybe gambit + kang tag team
wheres gastradon when we need it
yeah but sneasler doesn't have bulk like that
maybe it failed them in their last battle so they cast it away Paul style from the anime
i just don't understand how you can have sneasler, aerodactyl and mega floette and still lose
skill canyon
i think that's my favourite replay so far lmfao
feels good to have an alternate wincon against mega floette
Iron head go boom
anything i should modify on my team
You might want sacred sword on aegislash for gambits and incins and ttars
so what do i replace
i already got crab tho
Actually no keep it because you have mega crab
Your team looks fine but you need to be careful of teams stalling out tr
i usually just predict protects and calm mind prim or smth
Only problem i can see would be rain i think
bruh i should js replace hyper voice w sunne day on farig ato
No you need attacking moves in case of non prankster taunt
what do i do against rain then its so common and i win half the time against it
50/50 in a weather war is homestly how it should be
You could add rotom wash or something
what do i replaxe then
Obvious choice would be prim as it can be too passive, rotom can trick scarf or will o wisp
nu uh
im using prim
i might run calcs and replace sinistcha with cofagrigus to see if it can withstand any attacks
i like never use sinistcha
You could run rotom mow
i need trick room though
If you struggle against rain add torkoal
then that would mess with primarina
and i dont think incineroar is worth replacing
Well i think you need an electric type
man idk
Manectric?
indeedee not being in this is annoying
Im curious how does a excadrill go faster then a9?
but what am i supposed to replace
You said you barely use sinistcha
yes but i need another tr setter
Wait, i got it
tr setter thats good against rain does not even exist with this limited roster
Try mega lopunny with after you tr, gets tr set up instantly and can fake out ghosts
wth 😭
And mega lopunny can cc basc
why would i need fake out then if im clickijg after you first turn
wasting a mega slot just to set tr is not worth it
You have two ways of setting tr, fake out + tr or after you + tr
then what does lopunny even do once tr is set
Kill ghosts
lopunny is like one of the fastest mons in the format its going last
Yeah but the idea is that lopunny helps set tr then dies
Where can i get the choice items in champions
I just saw a Rotom trick me with a scarf
no why would i waste my mega in that
There is only one, the scarf
Where
In the shop
shop
Basc is always going to be faster than mega lopunny
i have aegislash with shadow sneak for basc anyways
its just pelliper thats really annoying
Im curious would basc kill a rotom wash with a bit of bulk in the rain with wave crash
and rotom wash but idk if they usually run on rain
yeah i had a match where someone wanted to set up basc woth rain with peli, i fainted it, sent out basc but i switched it to a9 to stop rain
Oooh how about mega meganium
hurricane
i alrdy said i need tr
i dont think i can switch anything honestly
Umbreon, nuke it with foul play
i pulled a shiny umbreon in recruit.. idk to make it with a doubles or singles set in mind
ok what i think i need to do against rain is to just lead farig and sinistcha and sack sinistcha so farig can set tr
but i literally have jothing good against water bruh
i can kill basc and arch its just pelliper thays annyoing
well i was thinking something with accelrock but the lycanrocs are too fast for tr
I fought someone with sand stream active and immediately mega’d ttar… does it set up sand stream when it megas
yes
idk why then cause mega frosslass immediately changed the weather and i got rid of mega ttar with snealer and they forfiet..
and the side mon
did you mega after they did
Yes
did you mega at the same time
ok weather follows trick room order so the slowest pokemon sets weather first
I know that they mega’d ttar when it was in sand storm already
well then if it was sand already there was nothing to overwrite
yeah i was so confused why they did that t1 in the sand
but then again i fake out it so idk what it was going to do lol
dusk lycanroc has tough claws boosted thunder fang
and sucker punch and accelrock for sash
sand rush
I wish there were proven archaludon or mega dnite teams I could use
Archaludon, Peliper, THE CAT, Dragonite is a good core
But im not sure what the other 2 slots would be
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Im not gonna click that but lmk how that goes!
I don't think the team I'm using is cutting it I'm losing too much
And still in pokeball tier. It shudnt be this damn hard
What team are you using
I just noticed Incin no longer has Knock Off and U Turn.
No longer the swiss army knife of utility
any merit to dragon pulse over draco meteor on dragonite?
Found an intimidate incineroar in recuit.. should i recruit permanently lol
do you have an incin already
Brought over wolfe’s one
Event one
recrut one is max attack max speed adamant i think
Ive trialed ot for now
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idt my team is good, it's too inconsistent, maybe i should swap gliscor for aero though
Are there any proven tailwind reliant teams?
I think its time to sos hunt a shiny crabrawler for champions
i'm 15-10 with this team i should just abandon it
maybe it's just gliscor that's not working and maybe i try aero
i have no idea honestly i'm so lost
maybe i should actually look at the pasrs
ok so my wlr with it is 60% which isn't too bad ig
just need to patch some mus
How do you tell you're win loss
in pasrs go to usage tab
Oh showdown win rate?
yes
it could be better but i mean i'm not doing horribly
at least i've improved
looks like i'm good against ttar, aero and incin but not good against mega floette, garchomp or sneasler
On a tailwind team do I still go scarf chomp
yeah why not
Locking into quake feels bad tbh
you could go white herb
sash sneasler and white herb chomp?
yache berry could be good
maybe i play some more games with this team to see what i should do
Got whim using sash
char y team?
Yeah maybe
Char Y, Whim, Chomp, Sneasler, gambit, farig
dragon resist berry could be nice too
maybe i look at replacing a9 because i'm not winning games with her or sneasler
most successful is gliscor and kang
hmmm 80% lead win with kang and gambit
i'm not using iron head on gambit much, and i'm not using throat chop on gliscor much
i might check what other moves gambit and gliscor get
What does Aegislash use in doubles
it depends, you can run it special or physical
Haban for Mirror sounds good to me
i wonder if i should run knock off on gliscor
Gambit can run Low Kick for Ttar and the mirror
already running low kick on kang
and i'm using it heaps
i'm also barely using icy wind on a9
I see King Shield, and then two STABS, but what is the fourth slot usually ran? Utility?
Like
KS, and then ShaBall & FlaCannon, flex slot
Or KS, and then GyroBall/IronHead & ShaClaw/ShaSneak, flex slot
i like poltergeist+iron head+shadow sneak+kings shield but you can probably drop iron head or sneak for something else like wide guard
Okay, also, what teams is AeSla usually on?
Rain? Balanced? Offense?
If any sample teams, pls provide sources, thx.
can use fighting move for ttar and gambit
How do I climb higher than Master Ball 4?
I have won many games in a row
I’m still the same tier
apparently the higher leagues are locked for the first week of the season
that explains it
Where is everyone sitting at atm
currently at 1800 only played 1 game since I got into mb as I want to use another team
My guess is that Champions is like 2000s
probably higher don't u get put at 1780 when u first get in
Not for everyone lmao
With my initial slapdash team I was shoved into 1680 or sth like that then with a real team im sitting mid 1800s cuz I win streaked off a fee games
I saw people get placed sub 1600s
Average tends to be like 1500s based off previous experience
yeah same
oh right maybe it is 2k then
I think Chomp/Delphox/Corviknight sounds correct to me
But I think Corvi is just so good rn
Corv looks really strong, lemme
https://pokepast.es/306a3832402b8692 threw this together tonight
Honestly you can run like Gyara for Intim or support as well
I have a headache so I’m not playing anymore today but I’m trying that tomorrow
I just see it on random goodstuffs/rain/sun
Sand with Ttar I’ve seen a couple times
It’s not exactly archetype defining cause its subpar
if you wanna call it that, sure
Cuz I really love Aegislash
It’s a cool Mon
I think whatever it is you’re required to run a fighting move like Sacred Sword
cause of Ttar Gambit
Gambit crazy rn
Is Gambit ever not crazy?
Higher power it falls off
Reg f onward it was only like, okay
Good in f with gouging fire then fell off
cc has a 25% chance to ohko a max hp 1 Def gambit after an intimidate so that could be better
Hm, to follow up what set on corv? Is it a bulk up kind of set of tailwind set?
I run Bulk Up BB BP Roost
No protect, so sitrus?
Lefties
I didn’t calc anything but I’ve just been using Max SpDef Careful lol
Which I feel has been correct for me
I cna probably optimise it but yeah
Max max is fine until it needs more imo
Tho I’ve had adjusted phox spreads to take hits
It eats shadow ball from Gengar and pretty much always nukes it in return
Nice
Gengar is uh, paper lol
Yk whats funny ti me
Yea?
Where do you get it?
Or did he post everything on his videos on it
Oh you can just find it, awesome
Not nearly as bulky as I thought it would be
I'm wondering if i switch to sash gambit because cc is a roll with chople
Sash gambit is wild
Then i need to figure out what to do with sneasler
I use sash gambit
Chople berry!
If there’s a Josh with the title “Dragon Tamer” in here from Champions all I have to say is imagine setting up Shadow Tag/Perish Song and still losing
That was such a satisfying victory
I feel like i really struggle against perish trap and maybe throat chop gliscor is not it
what is this to fight a Sneasler 1v1 or sth
Do you even beat sneasler doing that?
Idk if its like Iron Head + Sucker
only helps against fighting moves tho I don't need sash for anything else on my team with gambit
Ig so
sash gambit is insane lmao
yeah been struggling against sneasler
the forbidden technology... Zen Headbutt Kingambit
As someone who largely plays Draft, Zen Headbutt Kingambit didn't even sound that bad in my head
matter of fact I brought it just 2 weeks ago
but as a ladder tech... yea not so much
Ah alright
Now i know people focus more on the doubles, but would this work for singles?:
think u should add smth like aggron that isn't weak to fire
Fair
Ill do that when i get one
I yawned this archaludon on a switch in and then they clicked electro shot without rain
Was looking into the Battle Data to see which mons are used with Froslass, it says Kingambit & Sneasler. What do you all think?
How does everyone play against perish trap? Feels like that's what i struggle with the most
Try delphox
Also aerodactyl
yooo @lost sun ..u up fr some friendlies ?
can do
I'll use the new team I made
is it meant to be singles
doubles
says reg set ma single battle in top left
crap
or can u change it without making a new one
imma make another
ok
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very crappy team i have …all my fav shinies stuffed tog
both using gengar rain haha
i’ll bring the main one next game 💀💀
doesn't look bad tbf
idk the damage that kommo does tbh
u have multiscale dnite right no way it's only doing 44%
probably should've hit the peli
I was cooked from the lead
nah got sturdy
kinda true haha
i think stamina is just bettter for dealing with garchomp and sneasler
still a 1 or 2 shot depending on the item
up to you though …pick your poison
lmaooooo
thought u was gonna double protect icl I almost parting shot my own arch to get in peli then I realised u could just hold the mega
almost
need to make a lot of changes to this team
rock slides misses a lot
woahhh
rip thought that would've finished
if u want
last for me
ok
forgot greninja had a mega icl was confused when I saw it mega
Hey, wanted to try out Mega Gengar since I got 3 of it shiny, whats the usual team partners for it?
u can see in game
I saw but didn't know if those stats are from all players or from actually performing players
Game is somewhat new so I assume alot of players are just using Gengar with their favorites
flinch cooked me cus I tried to setup tw then thought u would double into it next turn
realll
this teams bad
gengar feels so useless when half the mons hit it for super effective ohko
yours isn’t an ideal team for gengar
nah worked on showdown a bit tho
you need stallers to succeed with him
your mons are all very frail
no support for my poor baby
wish they had a damage calc itg
only peli and basc are frail
and gengar ig but he can tank a few if trained right
kommo takes a lot of damage from pelipper dragonite and whimscott too
and it’s pretty slow unless you setup
I played horribly
ggs
it’s not your fault man …the team needs a bit of work
if rain isn’t your thing try sun maybe
I've made my arch bulkier and gave it stamina just gonna use eshot more for power
that's what I used for getting to mb
Play the switch ins carefully
want to use perish but there's just too much heavy hitters that threaten gengar
One wrong move and you're done
Yeah exactly
Hey, started working on my team, Mega Gengar. Made team based on Battle Data, but would like opinions on it.
Kommo-o
Sneasler
Incineroar
Sinistcha
Kingambit
Haven't gotten around to moves and stuff just yet. But might try to go for a Perish Song team after this
don't see how u beat zard y teams
Did see that below the top 5 other partners were Poli & Basculegion
Could try one of those, maybe 3 members from the prior mentioned, then a poli & basculegion engine?
could work
What about:
Gengar
Incineroar
Kingambit
Sinistcha
Politoed
Basculegion
?
Could switch King with Sneasler
I'm bad at competitive can I just go back down to pokeball when I will never reach master
post ur team and we can help you make improvements
Would say play Casual, but onlu face actual meta strats there
Mine or Miles?
well both, happy to give feedback
Building it in Showdown, you alright with that?
yeah it's preferable to have a pokepaste anyway
Will transfer mons after I get the team built
make sure it works on showdown before building it
ok i see the problem, audino, toucannon and vaporeon are trash sorry, replace em with sneasler, aerodactyl and hmmm idk garchomp maybe?
I will, took a break to quickly shiny hunt Darkrai
Here's team, is it alright for me to post big text?
just do pokepaste
Did it, do I send link?
Yep
I haven't gotten a aurodactyl yet and don't want to go though the lets go games to get one
do you have pogo or plza?
just read someone's protect by electro shotting them without the rain so it hits next turn
pro moves fr
or what if u electro shot in rain into protect & now the turn it’ll connect when you select again you’d be +2
is there a reg i speed tiers sheet?
What moves, stats and ability do I give them
share your moves first
nah had to fake out the chomp
that's why they protected since the aerodactyl was 1%
and I was at +2 since I electro shot the aero to get it down to 1 the turn before and the rain just ended when I made that prediction
if u press battle just before u start a match u can press Ur team and see all it's moves and items at once
just hit 1800 in MB
you need protect on everything first of all, i think floette is better with calm mind dazzling gleam, moonblast protect, garchomp with earthquake, dragon claw, rock slide, protect, maus should run follow me, super fang, protect and encore i think, basc protect, last respects, wave crash aqua jet, aerodactyl dual wingbeat, rock slide, tailwind, protect, sneasler, protect, dire claw, close combat, fake out i think
literally once every game it goes in an infinite loop saying "communicating", after waiting like 1 minute it says error, puts me back into the game and the game chose my moves at random
yet I got a 5 win-streak with this, which is insane
then I lost because I missed hydro pump, hit myself in confusion and got that infinite loop twice in the same game (it was still a decently close game for some reason)
it's so sad because I really enjoy the game, but I can't play properly with this
is this a singles team?
what range would u is high
it's doubles
i have no idea, i was hoping someone would give me feedback when i said it lol
Doubles
I kinda spawned in at 1800
1785 to be exact then I won the next game now I'm 1800
i'm not hopping back on champions until i optimise my team
1800 in the past has been pretty good, but seems higher scale in Champions
ill keep pushing then lol
ye I've seen people get 2k+
highest rating for the WUC think was 1970 or something that won
i'm not very good at this game
Can the game just derank me already
I am terrible at competitive can I be derank back down to pokeball now
When casual is no better then ranked
White herb for Sneasler, the berry that reduces ice or fairy damage for Garchomp
seeing a lot of mega floette so fairy reduction berry might be better
Could change garchomp rock slide if you felt like running something else
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9championsvgc2026regma-2583290883-nim4u4a9vk7lb0785qaigr6nreoklx2pw phew i had to really earn this win
Watch a replay of a Pokémon battle between Crvstal_K!tty and CACONCIN! Format: [Gen 9 Champions] VGC 2026 Reg M-A; Date: Apr 14, 2026
ye I don't see a lot of snow anymore either
tbh with fairy Aura, it won't make a difference
thing is a nuke
don't bring Garchomp to that fight
as a matter of fact don't bring sneasler or gambit either because that thing hits hard
and i run it with fake tears Whims next to it 
evil
bro wants to 1 shot tera poison Incin
I was tempted to run a calc earlier but didn't have time, wanted to see if it can OHKO with moonblast into Aeigslash with fake tears drop
When the ranks reset I'm just staying in pokeball tier
I think they reset on June 17th
okay no, i was correct to switch out
252 SpA Fairy Aura Floette-Mega Moonblast vs. -2 0 HP / 0 SpD Aegislash-Shield: 92-108 (68.1 - 80%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
looks like my best lead so far is gambit kang
but that's only from 27 matches
but my gxe has improved to 63%
rock slide sneasler is kinda good ngl
Can I just derank myself now so I don't have to go up against try hards using meta pokemon
people like to win, there's no point using suboptimal pokemon
At least tomodachi life is out in two day that will calm me down for a while until the ranks are reset so I can stay in pokeball tier and never go out of it
I just want to have fun with battles using some stupid pokemon as well instead of having to use the meta
the team you sent earlier is good
Yes
I need metagross to not be illegal pls
wanted to recycle one of my SV teams but I miss like half the team :|
did u draw that
I want to able to use pokemon like audino and they eeveelutions but I can't always have to use the meta
nuhuh
coaching ceruledge ftw
Yes
looks good
Cheers
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No I'm just bad at competitive and just want to have fun with it but I can't. When people are mostly using meta
just fuck around with sth you think is fun or funny
But I can't if people are just try harding
So I'm just gonna wait until the ranks reset and just stay in pokeball tier
I can't troll if I can't set it up in the first place
How common are high single target grass damage threats?
I guess venu
But outside of that I cant think of many
Im getting trolled in my first 2 games...wdym 5xQuick Claw Proc+1% survive :|
Zard Z solar beams
What is charizard Z
Is this from legit software?
what does that even mean
As in, played on an actual switch 2 and with no mods
he is the reigning vgc world champion
That's wolfe
bro became #1 dlobally twice
Yeah no it's legit and you can't even mod your Switch to cheat like that
@chrome knot the shiggy wiggy
Oh shit, is Champion rank live now? Can you rank up in Master Ball
Not sure tbh
Starting to figure out my rain team because Triple ghost is working, but not sure on Meganium
Pelipper, Bridge, Tea, and Aegislash putting in work
The amount of people making reddit posts about cheating but it's actually Zoroark is killing me
son im crine
New players man😭
Ive heard people complain so much about the meta and when they sre given a solution they refuse to follow it
zoroark feels like something you need to practice with to be able to use effectively
Anyone got a good team layout? I am trying to get into competitive pokemon but have no clue about good teams
There's a few good layouts
What kinda player are you
Yes
Um idk. I usually just play the games with whatever pokemon look cool
Im fine with anything you got
Hold on
I'm testing this
Have no idea if it's good for someone brand new though
You probably want Draco Meteor over dragon pulse on dnite
i think Rain is pretty good for new players 
The gengar I'm still learning what it does
anything that has a clear strategy and wincon i think is good
Ok thank you
mangolananaa has given 1 Gen Rep to redstonejesus
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why female Basc?
Another question. Do i get the pokemon through other games and put them on champions or do i just gamble
if you have any other games, thats gonna be the simplest way to get the specific pokemon that you want
Ok thanks so much
You gave Gen Rep too recently. You can give Gen Rep again <t:1776184385:R>.
Whats rep
meh, bot stuff
whenever you say thank you to someone you give them positive feedback for the channel basically
Anyone having a hard time finding games in champions?
Sorry, nope
I keep infinitely serching for an opponent then I get a communication error
need like a beginner tier draft team league lmao
all the ones going on are like NPA NPAA all shit out of my skill level
id be game for a champions draft league 👀
im not gonna be the one organizing it theyre alot of work
team captain/manager(s), all the shit that goes behind organizing it & then a playerbase
all kinda exhausting and hard to find
I’m hard stuck great ball 2 for sum reason and I can’t tell if it’s my team or me 😭
is the only way to prevent whimsicott tailwind rn to have a faster mon that knows fake out?
any fake out mon
am i misremembering priority? i thought fake out was +1?
or is it +2?
and prankster only +1?
fake out is like +3
What's your team
why did i think it was only +1?
its also really funny that fake out has same priority as quick guard
Mega froslass rotom fridge garchomp empoleon incineroar and kingambit
Is sinistcha that much of a problem that you'd give up sturdy for redirection immunity?
I haven't played archa rain yet but I thought hurricane pelipper was enough of a response to it
im just workshopping ideas
yeah
I've run into white herb for draco meteor which is pretty cool
Sinistcha isn't the only redirector atm. Follow Me Clefable and Maushold exist, Mega Scovillain has more than zero usage, and I've unironically seen multiple Raichu and Manectric with Lightning Rod on ladder
Wait does stalwart ignore lightning rod too?
Yup
ALL redirection. That'll even include Storm Drain when we get Gastrodon eventually
wait that last one mightve been me
Not that arch has any water moves
Given it was yesterday the last time I saw one, impossible to know
i was literally playing with that team yesterday XD
I kinda do wanna also use raichu for fake out electroweb
Fake out speed control is pretty nice
it is really nice
