#competitive_discussion

1 messages · Page 791 of 1

tiny karmaBOT
mighty stump
#

terribad but sharpness stone axe

#

just dont miss

foggy lodge
#

Isn't Kleavor also fine into Tytar

dull ibex
#

alright what are some common leads for sun and why ?

foggy lodge
#

Sharpness x scissor must do good damage right

mighty stump
#

Zard + Sneasler

dull ibex
#

im having trouble leading right

mighty stump
foggy lodge
#

Silver powder Kleavor

dull ibex
solid frigate
dull ibex
#

maybe i should

solid frigate
#

Better damage than I expected

foggy lodge
#

i just saw floette kill garchomp through roseli berry

solid frigate
#

Fairy Aura kinda just cancels the berry out anyway

real prairie
#

I've become a balance beta

dull ibex
chrome knot
#

its sm fun problem solving

real prairie
#

Tearful look is kinda cooked too, what do you mean it's like parting shot but hits through protect 🤣

real prairie
bold geode
bold geode
tawdry urchin
tawdry urchin
bold geode
bold geode
#

I think any attack Mega Floette fires off that's SE is just killing

tawdry urchin
#

I don't want to waste hours fighting npcs 😭😭😭

bold geode
#

Too many numbers

tawdry urchin
indigo coral
#

Araquanid's Water Bubble Liquidation with Mystic Water and Helping Hand in Rain is 688 BP right?

bold geode
bold geode
#

I said you weren't gonna like my answer when you asked for a 6th

indigo coral
#

85 (Liquidation) x2 (Water Bubble) x1.5 (STAB) x1.5 (Rain) x1.5 (Helping Hand) x1.2 (Mystic Water) = 688 Base Power

Am I doing that calculation correct or are the multipliers additive?

bold geode
#

I figured you'd know but well lemme be clear

#

I think your 6th should be Garchomp

tawdry urchin
#

and I'm not wasting hours fighting ncps in za so :/

mighty stump
#

But most of the time

dull ibex
#

what are some examples I don't

tiny karmaBOT
real prairie
solid frigate
real prairie
solid frigate
#

Mega Aggron is not that common so probably not get that on your head for too long

But yeah you basically have nothing against IDBP aggron

tawdry urchin
dull ibex
#

tofu you still aroun

#

I think im going to keep trying to make mega dnite work

#

Maybe I have to build around it

tawdry urchin
dull ibex
#

I like its bulk and design

#

also how does farig counter it

ripe grail
#

Guys is there any way to change age 😭😭

chrome knot
#

tera fairy farig on yo draco😱

ripe grail
#

On champions

#

I can't frickin add friends cause of this shite

chrome knot
#

lmao

ripe grail
#

Ts too annoying man

tawdry urchin
dull ibex
#

im mega dragonite

tawdry urchin
#

and the bulk ain't saving it either. Even with multiscale ✌

solid frigate
#

I think bro was on the previous update

spiral zealot
#

how i feel running Upper Hand

chrome knot
#

and then they flare blitz

dull ibex
solid frigate
tiny karmaBOT
craggy dagger
solid frigate
tawdry urchin
craggy dagger
dull ibex
#

this dude 💀

#

so what do you run Draco Hurricane protect and espeed

chrome knot
tawdry urchin
dull ibex
tawdry urchin
craggy dagger
solid frigate
#

@dull ibex just ignore atp

dull ibex
craggy dagger
#

literally
what is stopping you from
clicking a regular move 😭

chrome knot
craggy dagger
chrome knot
#

which is jus hurricane draco as the 2 atk

dull ibex
craggy dagger
dull ibex
#

why run tw on both peli and dragonite ya know

craggy dagger
#

i’ve run tw for teams that don’t have whims

tawdry urchin
chrome knot
#

so the coverage could be espeed

craggy dagger
tawdry urchin
dull ibex
#

stop being toxic

tawdry urchin
dull ibex
#

live action role player

chrome knot
craggy dagger
solid frigate
chrome knot
#

very she didn’t let me buy her coffee!!!!

craggy dagger
#

it takes a larper to know one

tawdry urchin
foggy lodge
#

y'all gotta stop engaging in these dumb conversations these people don't deserve the attention you give them

solid frigate
#

Just let that guy rot

chrome knot
solid frigate
#

He does not deserve any sort of attention

chrome knot
#

i just finished working #TuckMeIn

solid frigate
chrome knot
#

rotting in BED

#

#COMFY

tawdry urchin
craggy dagger
#

ah well ChenShrug

#

i think i’m gonna go cook up a storm again WEvil

chrome knot
craggy dagger
solid frigate
chrome knot
craggy dagger
#

what

solid frigate
#

Idk why I feel hungry even tho it’s 4:37 am

tawdry urchin
# craggy dagger yes!

So explain to me without priority (e speed) how you attack whim before it does anything

solid frigate
#

Just git gud

chrome knot
craggy dagger
#

so like
just be faster than it lol

tawdry urchin
craggy dagger
#

didn’t know that lol

#

must be -defense nature 0 bulk whimsicott

chrome knot
#

especially a sash one

gentle cragBOT
craggy dagger
#

meanwhile i’m sure you have pure power max attack choice band tera normal extreme speed mega dragonite right?

chrome knot
#

now this sounds awesome sauce

craggy dagger
chrome knot
#

run the calcs

#

low kick might slam dunk zamazenta lmao

tawdry urchin
#

it gets 1 moves off and done e speed it next turn

craggy dagger
#

FuwaThink

0 Atk Dragonite-Mega Extreme Speed vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Whimsicott: 42-50 (31.1 - 37%) -- 79.7% chance to 3HKO

craggy dagger
#

just match the tailwind shachiWheeze

ripe grail
#

Guys how do I workaroumd this age thingy

I actually wanna add friends 😭😭

surreal echo
#

Bro is a professional arguer how do I come back an hour later and he's still yapping

tawdry urchin
chrome knot
chrome knot
#

and he calls people larpers which is like a self report to stupidity

craggy dagger
#

okay okay
so
you said that
you wanted to finish off the low hp whimsicott, yes?

surreal echo
#

thinks they know better than everyone when they're hard stuck in ultra ball

solid frigate
craggy dagger
#

so
yknow
they prolly clicked tailwind the turn before they were dropped to their sash

chrome knot
craggy dagger
#

which means ur kinda in a losing board state…
and cleaning up the whimsicott just gives them a clean switch in

#

correct?

solid frigate
#

Yeah

craggy dagger
#

so then what’s the point of running extreme speed?

#

if it’s gonna net you in a worse position

tawdry urchin
solid frigate
tawdry urchin
#

cool they got a free switch but one of their mon is dead. Who cares 😭

surreal echo
#

Imma be honest just let bro be wrong

craggy dagger
surreal echo
#

He'll figure it out eventually when he starts losing games

craggy dagger
#

so stop acting like you know better when you know you’re in a losing board state no matter what

chrome knot
#

i made a yummy wrap at work today

tawdry urchin
solid frigate
craggy dagger
solid frigate
craggy dagger
#

or i could switch the pokemon that is susceptible to encore instead ChenShrug

#

the latter is prolly better and that’s won me way too many games against whimsicott lol

tawdry urchin
craggy dagger
#

it’s called double battles for a reason fillyLaugh

chrome knot
#

yall ever thought abt how this guy could be the larper

tawdry urchin
solid frigate
surreal echo
tawdry urchin
surreal echo
craggy dagger
#

back to work~
take care everyone :D
hope you win ur games

chrome knot
spiral zealot
#

every day i learn some new random ass mon gets fake out

#

why was this guy running fake out blastoise

solid frigate
dull ibex
#

so do i lead basc most of the time with rain?

solid frigate
spiral zealot
solid frigate
foggy lodge
chrome knot
#

NO

#

simipour maybe ^-^

foggy lodge
#

Grass type fake out monkey tho

#

You can run grassy terrain simisage to larp as rillaboom!

chrome knot
#

nope nope nope

solid frigate
#

The balance brainrot on Max is slowly showing

dull ibex
#

i've probably been piloting rain wrong

solid frigate
spiral zealot
#

yeah its good for endgame too if you have Last Respects!

dull ibex
#

I do

spiral zealot
#

i'll use it as an opener against like Charizard and just Wave Crash it

dull ibex
#

even in sun?

craggy dagger
spiral zealot
#

yea if you have max ATK adaptability basc it kills mega zard y in sun with wave crash

#

i also use basc as an opener if they have like a whimsicott or something and i'll double priority move into it

tawdry urchin
#

Whats the best earthquake user besides garchomp?

solid frigate
surreal echo
# dull ibex so do i lead basc most of the time with rain?

depends. If the opponent's team is generally weak to basc, you can lead with it. If there are only a few Pokemon that are weak to basc, keep it in the back until you handle your opponent's basc answers so you can use it for late game cleanup

chrome knot
dull ibex
#

so what rain teams are yall running anyhow

spiral zealot
#

mine isn't the best but lemme screenshot it

surreal echo
#

pretty easy team to pilot honestly

dull ibex
#

how do i pilot sinischa

surreal echo
#

depends on the situation, sinistcha can be used for a lot of things

#

If against a very fast team, you can use it as speed control, against balance teams it can be good for longevity with redirection + healing

craggy dagger
solid frigate
chrome knot
surreal echo
#

yeah pretty similar to the one I posted

spiral zealot
#

i think sturdy is better on Arch right now though

surreal echo
#

although item choices are... interesting

solid frigate
spiral zealot
solid frigate
#

Unless you are me and don’t give a fuck about basc

chrome knot
#

also white herb sneas girl is awesome for turn 0 unburden

solid frigate
surreal echo
spiral zealot
gentle cragBOT
chrome knot
#

all our food keeps blowing up mon

surreal echo
#

I'm pwetty fwiggin experienced

spiral zealot
#

shuca berry was not really doing much lol

solid frigate
chrome knot
#

sneasler too frail for dat

#

he wants to cheat and then fuck off

solid frigate
#

Just run a white herb or Even a Focus Sash

spiral zealot
#

is leftovers still good on archaludon tho? or should i be doing magnet

foggy lodge
#

imo stamina sets are no longer good on archa

#

I think sturdy sets with a damage boosting item are better

solid frigate
solid frigate
#

I’ll probably just gonna build another Archaludon with sturdy

#

Since I have a spare in champions

dull ibex
#

how would i build an aggressive sand team?

molten oasis
chrome knot
#

@spiral zealot do u fw the fitAAE_giggle

ripe grail
#

@surreal echo when will you be back m

spiral zealot
#

im not using it myself bc i dont wanna see that ugly ass pokeball holster belt

winter fox
#

I'm just now buying clothes 💀

#

I spend all of my VP on training mons and then I have none left

next dust
#

Over 100 mons to train I'll just wear what they gave me when I started 😂

winter fox
#

I hope we get more customization options, kind of jarring compared to what we had in Z-A

chrome knot
#

mdb gardevoir is quite strong lol

craggy dagger
craggy dagger
#

simipour…

chrome knot
#

she gets it!!

craggy dagger
#

sorry but i’m using grassy glide simisage TowaRunAnimated
budget rillaboom incoming

chrome knot
#

o hale no

#

i beat someone who had a 5 winstreak tag

craggy dagger
chrome knot
#

lol get bent idiot !!

craggy dagger
chrome knot
#

yaaaay

#

scarf rotom is so annoying lmfao i was harassing him

dull ibex
chrome knot
#

michael der beste

knotty mirage
#

Is there a reason why greninja doesn't get nasty plot like on ZA SadMimi

next dust
#

They made my boy not really worth bringing

knotty mirage
#

I mean they already stabbed protean and left it too die on back alley now they also takeaway nasty plot guess they just don't want greninja too be meta again huh

brisk crater
#

I have a champions lobby code 7022 8254

brisk crater
dull ibex
#

Why is mega gengar ran on rain?

surreal echo
#

you dont really see it with pelipper

#

i mean it does also help into opposing grass types and the floette matchup

dull ibex
#

Politoed isn't on the teams

chrome knot
#

bc stay here

#

imma start BLASTIN

surreal echo
dull ibex
tawdry urchin
chrome knot
#

larp spotted?

tawdry urchin
rustic mountain
#

have the aerodacytyl special scan already there from my last scan from months ago and took only a few donut rerolls for the alpha 3 sparkling 3 PCdripsola

chrome knot
#

woaa

#

i needa rng swsh for one

rustic mountain
#

did have to farm some tangas b4 that but hav a decent amount of the other hyperspace berries so wasnt too bad

chrome knot
#

tho crowned tundra rng is hard sm random noise and weather effectsFukingDies

rustic mountain
smoky terrace
#

I'm currently training my Mega Dragonite Singles team before Ranked. Anything I need to improve on?

hallow arrow
#

Could anyone help me out? I just hit master ball tier about an hour ago and I have a rating of 1,702 is that any good? No idea

chrome knot
#

ladder anxiety lmao

versed dune
#

Relatively new to comp scene. Is defog worth running in the current meta or am I wasting a move slot

chilly sluice
#

anyone wanna play doubles rn

rustic mountain
#

im jus trynna remind myself its fun and we are all learning/relearning a completely new format and mechanic

chrome knot
#

idk how to get over it i get an icky feeling in my chest when i play

#

like im scared or smth lmao

cyan smelt
forest arrow
rustic mountain
#

haha nice

#

yea jus gna eat somethin first then do that inna bit, train a few mons nd transfer them over see how it goes lol

#

think jus a matter of rerolling the mon that is the guaranteed shiny is all it comes down to so hopefully wont take too long

rustic mountain
forest arrow
#

Yeah you could even reset cheese until you just spawn a shiny aero too, if you have a lvl 3

rustic mountain
#

yea thats wat i was thinkin from wat i remember

chrome knot
#

like im so incredibly far behind in ranked to where i should be but, should finally see real teams

sudden remnant
chilly sluice
#

anyone wanna play doubles rn

sudden remnant
#

i got to ultra 2 before the teams started to noticeably vary in strategies and i just couldnt fight the teams started to
that ended up being on top

chrome knot
sudden remnant
#

ive seen either floette or palafin in every match ive played in the last idk 2 days

chrome knot
#

rankup game was vs perish rain & the basc was leftovers adaptability

#

with scale shot lmfao

chrome knot
#

knowing is all the more powerful than playing blind

foggy lodge
dull ibex
#

After the change to gengar

chrome knot
#

yo bridge is missing 2 stat points

sudden remnant
#

like we dont already have adaptability basculegion to do the same thing

chrome knot
#

think palafin is strong in its own way

sudden remnant
#

i hate it

#

team basculegion 100%

molten oasis
#

Palafin can do something

cyan smelt
sudden remnant
#

yeah it can stay away from me

cyan smelt
#

why tf did they eq their own sneasler

chrome knot
#

they all got a job at mcdonalds

sudden remnant
cyan smelt
#

they really wanted gambit dead ig

sudden remnant
#

did gambit die?

cyan smelt
#

nah i protected and called the cc

sudden remnant
#

lmao

cyan smelt
#

i'm gonna rewatch that replay whenever i need a laugh

sudden remnant
#

yo was it on showdown?

cyan smelt
#

yes

sudden remnant
#

gimme see

cyan smelt
#

i'm enjoying iron head on gambit

sudden remnant
#

im debating if i go all in on my original tailroom team around mega aerodactyl and mega amphy or if i do my other idea and all in on a team around mega lopunny and its scrappy ability

cyan smelt
#

i mean if you want to be basic use aerodactyl like everyone

chrome knot
#

hi im basic

sudden remnant
#

thats the thing

cyan smelt
#

if it works it works

sudden remnant
#

“basic” isnt my style and im sure we (we as in ME and ALL of you) know it

cyan smelt
#

be prepared to lose lots if you're using mega lopunny

sudden remnant
#

i cant derank from ultra 4

#

fear the man with nothing to lose

cyan smelt
#

i wish kang learnt close combat, i wonder how much low kick does to the fish

sudden remnant
#

fih

#

and which one

cyan smelt
#

basc male

tiny karmaBOT
sudden remnant
#

100 bp

cyan smelt
#

i mean that's decent damage right

tiny karmaBOT
near crag
sudden remnant
#

meh

cyan smelt
#

low kick feels better than drain punch

sudden remnant
#

im sure it will hurt but i think the fih will live

cyan smelt
#

maybe gambit + kang tag team

sudden remnant
#

what did my fih do to you

#

basculegion is goated

cyan smelt
#

it's way too fast and way too stronk

#

but get this, they eqed their own sneasler lmao

sudden remnant
#

wheres gastradon when we need it

cyan smelt
#

lmfao i truly can't believe they eqed their own sneasler

#

0 iq play

sudden remnant
#

id eq my own incineroar

#

it would probably live the eq anyways

cyan smelt
#

yeah but sneasler doesn't have bulk like that

sudden remnant
#

maybe it failed them in their last battle so they cast it away Paul style from the anime

cyan smelt
#

i just don't understand how you can have sneasler, aerodactyl and mega floette and still lose

sudden remnant
#

skill canyon

cyan smelt
#

i think that's my favourite replay so far lmfao

#

feels good to have an alternate wincon against mega floette

#

Iron head go boom

grand spire
cyan smelt
#

You might want sacred sword on aegislash for gambits and incins and ttars

grand spire
#

i already got crab tho

cyan smelt
#

Actually no keep it because you have mega crab

#

Your team looks fine but you need to be careful of teams stalling out tr

grand spire
#

i usually just predict protects and calm mind prim or smth

cyan smelt
#

Only problem i can see would be rain i think

grand spire
#

bruh i should js replace hyper voice w sunne day on farig ato

cyan smelt
#

No you need attacking moves in case of non prankster taunt

grand spire
sudden remnant
#

50/50 in a weather war is homestly how it should be

grand spire
#

its not a weather war tho

#

my team just weak to rain

cyan smelt
#

You could add rotom wash or something

grand spire
cyan smelt
#

Obvious choice would be prim as it can be too passive, rotom can trick scarf or will o wisp

grand spire
#

nu uh

#

im using prim

#

i might run calcs and replace sinistcha with cofagrigus to see if it can withstand any attacks

#

i like never use sinistcha

cyan smelt
#

You could run rotom mow

grand spire
cyan smelt
#

If you struggle against rain add torkoal

grand spire
#

and i dont think incineroar is worth replacing

cyan smelt
#

Well i think you need an electric type

grand spire
#

man idk

cyan smelt
#

Manectric?

grand spire
#

indeedee not being in this is annoying

wild knot
#

Im curious how does a excadrill go faster then a9?

grand spire
cyan smelt
#

You said you barely use sinistcha

grand spire
cyan smelt
#

Wait, i got it

grand spire
#

tr setter thats good against rain does not even exist with this limited roster

cyan smelt
#

Try mega lopunny with after you tr, gets tr set up instantly and can fake out ghosts

grand spire
#

wth 😭

cyan smelt
#

And mega lopunny can cc basc

grand spire
#

why would i need fake out then if im clickijg after you first turn

#

wasting a mega slot just to set tr is not worth it

cyan smelt
#

You have two ways of setting tr, fake out + tr or after you + tr

grand spire
#

then what does lopunny even do once tr is set

cyan smelt
#

Kill ghosts

grand spire
#

lopunny slot is free

#

for enemies to attack

grand spire
cyan smelt
#

Yeah but the idea is that lopunny helps set tr then dies

formal parrot
#

Where can i get the choice items in champions

#

I just saw a Rotom trick me with a scarf

grand spire
#

no why would i waste my mega in that

wild knot
#

There is only one, the scarf

formal parrot
wild knot
#

In the shop

grand spire
cyan smelt
#

Basc is always going to be faster than mega lopunny

grand spire
#

i have aegislash with shadow sneak for basc anyways

#

its just pelliper thats really annoying

wild knot
#

Im curious would basc kill a rotom wash with a bit of bulk in the rain with wave crash

grand spire
wild knot
#

yeah i had a match where someone wanted to set up basc woth rain with peli, i fainted it, sent out basc but i switched it to a9 to stop rain

cyan smelt
#

Oooh how about mega meganium

grand spire
#

i alrdy said i need tr

#

i dont think i can switch anything honestly

cyan smelt
#

Umbreon, nuke it with foul play

wild knot
#

i pulled a shiny umbreon in recruit.. idk to make it with a doubles or singles set in mind

grand spire
#

ok what i think i need to do against rain is to just lead farig and sinistcha and sack sinistcha so farig can set tr

#

but i literally have jothing good against water bruh

#

i can kill basc and arch its just pelliper thays annyoing

cyan smelt
#

well i was thinking something with accelrock but the lycanrocs are too fast for tr

wild knot
#

I fought someone with sand stream active and immediately mega’d ttar… does it set up sand stream when it megas

cyan smelt
#

yes

wild knot
#

idk why then cause mega frosslass immediately changed the weather and i got rid of mega ttar with snealer and they forfiet..

#

and the side mon

cyan smelt
#

did you mega after they did

wild knot
#

Yes

cyan smelt
#

did you mega at the same time

wild knot
#

they mega’d in the sand

#

i mega’d next turn cause a9 died to sand chip

cyan smelt
#

ok weather follows trick room order so the slowest pokemon sets weather first

wild knot
#

I know that they mega’d ttar when it was in sand storm already

cyan smelt
#

well then if it was sand already there was nothing to overwrite

wild knot
#

yeah i was so confused why they did that t1 in the sand

#

but then again i fake out it so idk what it was going to do lol

cyan smelt
#

and sucker punch and accelrock for sash

wild knot
#

Wait how much does choice scarf boost speed by

#

Excadrill was faster then a9

cyan smelt
#

sand rush

wild knot
#

Ohhhh

#

so i switched to snow so it wasnt that speedy anymore… i see

rare drift
#

This is the team i've been using

dull ibex
#

I wish there were proven archaludon or mega dnite teams I could use

rare drift
#

Archaludon, Peliper, THE CAT, Dragonite is a good core

rare drift
dull ibex
# rare drift Archaludon, Peliper, THE CAT, Dragonite is a good core

TEAM CODE: H1SH60W5FD

In this video, I'll be discussing and breaking down this Rain Team in Pokemon Champions.
This team is super solid and easy to use, perfect for beginners who are just getting into VGC.

► Subscribe to my channel! https://www.youtube.com/Sersun

Follow me on other social media platforms!

►Twitter: https://twitter.com/S...

▶ Play video
#

trying this

rare drift
#

Im not gonna click that but lmk how that goes!

stuck perch
#

I don't think the team I'm using is cutting it I'm losing too much

#

And still in pokeball tier. It shudnt be this damn hard

rare drift
#

What team are you using

formal parrot
#

I just noticed Incin no longer has Knock Off and U Turn.

No longer the swiss army knife of utility

dull ibex
#

any merit to dragon pulse over draco meteor on dragonite?

wild knot
#

Found an intimidate incineroar in recuit.. should i recruit permanently lol

dull ibex
wild knot
#

Brought over wolfe’s one

#

Event one

#

recrut one is max attack max speed adamant i think

#

Ive trialed ot for now

stuck perch
#

Water, fairy and fire fuck me up every time

cyan smelt
#

idt my team is good, it's too inconsistent, maybe i should swap gliscor for aero though

dull ibex
#

Are there any proven tailwind reliant teams?

wild knot
#

I think its time to sos hunt a shiny crabrawler for champions

cyan smelt
#

i'm 15-10 with this team i should just abandon it

#

maybe it's just gliscor that's not working and maybe i try aero

#

i have no idea honestly i'm so lost

#

maybe i should actually look at the pasrs

#

ok so my wlr with it is 60% which isn't too bad ig

#

just need to patch some mus

dull ibex
cyan smelt
#

in pasrs go to usage tab

dull ibex
#

Oh showdown win rate?

cyan smelt
#

yes

#

it could be better but i mean i'm not doing horribly

#

at least i've improved

#

looks like i'm good against ttar, aero and incin but not good against mega floette, garchomp or sneasler

dull ibex
#

On a tailwind team do I still go scarf chomp

cyan smelt
#

yeah why not

dull ibex
#

Locking into quake feels bad tbh

cyan smelt
#

you could go white herb

dull ibex
#

Nah I can't

#

Got sneasler

cyan smelt
#

sash sneasler and white herb chomp?

lost sun
#

yache berry could be good

cyan smelt
#

maybe i play some more games with this team to see what i should do

dull ibex
lost sun
#

char y team?

dull ibex
dull ibex
lost sun
#

dragon resist berry could be nice too

cyan smelt
#

maybe i look at replacing a9 because i'm not winning games with her or sneasler

#

most successful is gliscor and kang

#

hmmm 80% lead win with kang and gambit

#

i'm not using iron head on gambit much, and i'm not using throat chop on gliscor much

#

i might check what other moves gambit and gliscor get

formal parrot
#

What does Aegislash use in doubles

cyan smelt
#

it depends, you can run it special or physical

mighty stump
#

Haban for Mirror sounds good to me

cyan smelt
#

i wonder if i should run knock off on gliscor

mighty stump
#

Gambit can run Low Kick for Ttar and the mirror

cyan smelt
#

already running low kick on kang

#

and i'm using it heaps

#

i'm also barely using icy wind on a9

formal parrot
#

Like
KS, and then ShaBall & FlaCannon, flex slot

Or KS, and then GyroBall/IronHead & ShaClaw/ShaSneak, flex slot

pearl wind
#

i like poltergeist+iron head+shadow sneak+kings shield but you can probably drop iron head or sneak for something else like wide guard

formal parrot
#

Okay, also, what teams is AeSla usually on?

#

Rain? Balanced? Offense?

#

If any sample teams, pls provide sources, thx.

lost sun
jade dust
#

How do I climb higher than Master Ball 4?

#

I have won many games in a row

#

I’m still the same tier

lost sun
mighty stump
#

Where is everyone sitting at atm

lost sun
#

currently at 1800 only played 1 game since I got into mb as I want to use another team

mighty stump
#

My guess is that Champions is like 2000s

lost sun
#

probably higher don't u get put at 1780 when u first get in

mighty stump
#

With my initial slapdash team I was shoved into 1680 or sth like that then with a real team im sitting mid 1800s cuz I win streaked off a fee games

#

I saw people get placed sub 1600s

#

Average tends to be like 1500s based off previous experience

molten oasis
#

I haven’t played yet

#

Mostly just playing showdown

mighty stump
#

yeah same

lost sun
molten oasis
#

Trying to figure out better stuff for phox

#

Trying sand with it

#

Snow feels bad rn

mighty stump
#

But I think Corvi is just so good rn

molten oasis
#

Corv looks really strong, lemme

mighty stump
#

Honestly you can run like Gyara for Intim or support as well

molten oasis
#

I have a headache so I’m not playing anymore today but I’m trying that tomorrow

formal parrot
#

What teams is Aegislash usually on, and samples pls, thx

#

Doubles of course

mighty stump
molten oasis
#

Sand with Ttar I’ve seen a couple times

mighty stump
#

It’s not exactly archetype defining cause its subpar

formal parrot
#

So flexible on any team then

#

Okay good

mighty stump
#

if you wanna call it that, sure

formal parrot
#

Cuz I really love Aegislash

molten oasis
#

It’s a cool Mon

mighty stump
#

I think whatever it is you’re required to run a fighting move like Sacred Sword

#

cause of Ttar Gambit

molten oasis
#

Gambit crazy rn

formal parrot
#

Is Gambit ever not crazy?

molten oasis
#

Higher power it falls off

#

Reg f onward it was only like, okay

#

Good in f with gouging fire then fell off

lost sun
molten oasis
molten oasis
#

No protect, so sitrus?

mighty stump
#

Lefties

molten oasis
#

Really?

#

Alr, I’ll try that

#

Oh that’s literally what’s in my builder

mighty stump
#

I didn’t calc anything but I’ve just been using Max SpDef Careful lol

#

Which I feel has been correct for me

#

I cna probably optimise it but yeah

molten oasis
#

Max max is fine until it needs more imo

#

Tho I’ve had adjusted phox spreads to take hits

#

It eats shadow ball from Gengar and pretty much always nukes it in return

mighty stump
#

Nice

molten oasis
#

Gengar is uh, paper lol

mighty stump
#

Yk whats funny ti me

molten oasis
#

Yea?

mighty stump
#

How come no one has stolen Wolfe’s MGar spread

#

From Ye Olde days

#

It’s free

molten oasis
#

Where do you get it?

#

Or did he post everything on his videos on it

#

Oh you can just find it, awesome

#

Not nearly as bulky as I thought it would be

cyan smelt
#

I'm wondering if i switch to sash gambit because cc is a roll with chople

molten oasis
#

Sash gambit is wild

cyan smelt
#

Then i need to figure out what to do with sneasler

lost sun
#

I use sash gambit

molten oasis
#

Chople berry!

vivid fern
#

If there’s a Josh with the title “Dragon Tamer” in here from Champions all I have to say is imagine setting up Shadow Tag/Perish Song and still losing

#

That was such a satisfying victory

cyan smelt
#

I feel like i really struggle against perish trap and maybe throat chop gliscor is not it

mighty stump
molten oasis
#

Do you even beat sneasler doing that?

mighty stump
#

Idk if its like Iron Head + Sucker

lost sun
molten oasis
chilly sluice
#

sash gambit is insane lmao

cyan smelt
vapid comet
vapid comet
#

As someone who largely plays Draft, Zen Headbutt Kingambit didn't even sound that bad in my head

#

matter of fact I brought it just 2 weeks ago

#

but as a ladder tech... yea not so much

daring jungle
#

Now i know people focus more on the doubles, but would this work for singles?:

lost sun
daring jungle
#

Fair

#

Ill do that when i get one

#

I yawned this archaludon on a switch in and then they clicked electro shot without rain

oak geode
#

Was looking into the Battle Data to see which mons are used with Froslass, it says Kingambit & Sneasler. What do you all think?

cyan smelt
#

How does everyone play against perish trap? Feels like that's what i struggle with the most

ripe grail
#

yooo @lost sun ..u up fr some friendlies ?

lost sun
#

I'll use the new team I made

ripe grail
#

less do it

#

made it

#

81617794

lost sun
ripe grail
#

doubles

lost sun
#

says reg set ma single battle in top left

ripe grail
#

crap

lost sun
#

or can u change it without making a new one

ripe grail
#

imma make another

lost sun
#

ok

ripe grail
#

2171 1456

lost sun
#

💀

ripe grail
#

very crappy team i have …all my fav shinies stuffed tog

lost sun
#

both using gengar rain haha

ripe grail
#

i’ll bring the main one next game 💀💀

lost sun
#

idk the damage that kommo does tbh

#

u have multiscale dnite right no way it's only doing 44%

ripe grail
#

obviously haha

#

ggs boy

lost sun
#

probably should've hit the peli

ripe grail
#

yesss you should have

#

get the main one now …i’ll get mine too

lost sun
#

this gonna be my main

#

just got to optimize it

ripe grail
#

alr alr

#

ahh crap i fcked up selection by mistake lol

lost sun
#

rip

#

I need adaptability to 1 shot char y right

#

in sun

ripe grail
#

yep

#

swift swim won’t cut it

#

what were you thinking lol

#

also no stamina on arch ?

lost sun
#

I was cooked from the lead

lost sun
ripe grail
#

kinda true haha

ripe grail
#

stamina way better

lost sun
#

lots of things do

#

pretty sure weather ball from char does

ripe grail
#

i think stamina is just bettter for dealing with garchomp and sneasler

lost sun
#

still a 1 or 2 shot depending on the item

ripe grail
#

up to you though …pick your poison

lost sun
#

wish the added power herb

#

rip forgot the timer is less

ripe grail
#

lmaooooo

lost sun
#

thought u was gonna double protect icl I almost parting shot my own arch to get in peli then I realised u could just hold the mega

ripe grail
#

almost

lost sun
#

need to make a lot of changes to this team

ripe grail
#

bad

#

damnnnn

#

luck

#

ahh i did think that might happen

#

two times wtf

lost sun
ripe grail
#

woahhh

lost sun
#

rip thought that would've finished

ripe grail
#

chompyyyyyy

#

close enough

#

we go again ?

lost sun
#

if u want

ripe grail
#

last for me

lost sun
#

ok

ripe grail
#

shit messed up the order lol

#

am so cooked

lost sun
#

forgot greninja had a mega icl was confused when I saw it mega

ripe grail
#

such a cool design ngl

#

lmaooooo F

oak geode
#

Hey, wanted to try out Mega Gengar since I got 3 of it shiny, whats the usual team partners for it?

oak geode
#

Game is somewhat new so I assume alot of players are just using Gengar with their favorites

lost sun
ripe grail
#

realll

lost sun
#

this teams bad

ripe grail
#

it really is bro

#

too frail

#

no pivots either

lost sun
#

gengar feels so useless when half the mons hit it for super effective ohko

ripe grail
#

yours isn’t an ideal team for gengar

lost sun
#

nah worked on showdown a bit tho

ripe grail
#

you need stallers to succeed with him

#

your mons are all very frail

#

no support for my poor baby

lost sun
#

wish they had a damage calc itg

#

only peli and basc are frail

#

and gengar ig but he can tank a few if trained right

ripe grail
#

kommo takes a lot of damage from pelipper dragonite and whimscott too

#

and it’s pretty slow unless you setup

lost sun
#

ye

#

need smth for the dark types

ripe grail
#

yep

#

aight imma take your leave now …had fun mate

lost sun
#

I played horribly

ripe grail
#

ggs

#

it’s not your fault man …the team needs a bit of work

#

if rain isn’t your thing try sun maybe

lost sun
#

I've made my arch bulkier and gave it stamina just gonna use eshot more for power

lost sun
ripe grail
lost sun
#

want to use perish but there's just too much heavy hitters that threaten gengar

ripe grail
#

One wrong move and you're done

oak geode
#

Hey, started working on my team, Mega Gengar. Made team based on Battle Data, but would like opinions on it.

Kommo-o
Sneasler
Incineroar
Sinistcha
Kingambit

#

Haven't gotten around to moves and stuff just yet. But might try to go for a Perish Song team after this

lost sun
oak geode
#

Could try one of those, maybe 3 members from the prior mentioned, then a poli & basculegion engine?

lost sun
#

could work

oak geode
#

What about:

Gengar
Incineroar
Kingambit
Sinistcha
Politoed
Basculegion

?

#

Could switch King with Sneasler

split stone
#

I'm bad at competitive can I just go back down to pokeball when I will never reach master

cyan smelt
#

post ur team and we can help you make improvements

oak geode
oak geode
cyan smelt
#

well both, happy to give feedback

oak geode
cyan smelt
#

yeah it's preferable to have a pokepaste anyway

oak geode
#

Will transfer mons after I get the team built

cyan smelt
#

make sure it works on showdown before building it

cyan smelt
#

ok i see the problem, audino, toucannon and vaporeon are trash sorry, replace em with sneasler, aerodactyl and hmmm idk garchomp maybe?

oak geode
cyan smelt
#

not 100% on garchomp but def sneasler and aero

#

also post your movesets as well

oak geode
#

Here's team, is it alright for me to post big text?

cyan smelt
#

just do pokepaste

oak geode
#

Did it, do I send link?

cyan smelt
#

Yep

oak geode
split stone
cyan smelt
#

do you have pogo or plza?

split stone
#

I have za

#

I completely forgot about the fossils in za

lost sun
#

just read someone's protect by electro shotting them without the rain so it hits next turn

#

pro moves fr

chrome knot
#

or what if u electro shot in rain into protect & now the turn it’ll connect when you select again you’d be +2

waxen dock
#

is there a reg i speed tiers sheet?

split stone
cyan smelt
#

share your moves first

lost sun
#

that's why they protected since the aerodactyl was 1%

#

and I was at +2 since I electro shot the aero to get it down to 1 the turn before and the rain just ended when I made that prediction

#

if u press battle just before u start a match u can press Ur team and see all it's moves and items at once

split stone
real prairie
#

just hit 1800 in MB

cyan smelt
#

you need protect on everything first of all, i think floette is better with calm mind dazzling gleam, moonblast protect, garchomp with earthquake, dragon claw, rock slide, protect, maus should run follow me, super fang, protect and encore i think, basc protect, last respects, wave crash aqua jet, aerodactyl dual wingbeat, rock slide, tailwind, protect, sneasler, protect, dire claw, close combat, fake out i think

worldly portal
#

literally once every game it goes in an infinite loop saying "communicating", after waiting like 1 minute it says error, puts me back into the game and the game chose my moves at random
yet I got a 5 win-streak with this, which is insane
then I lost because I missed hydro pump, hit myself in confusion and got that infinite loop twice in the same game (it was still a decently close game for some reason)

#

it's so sad because I really enjoy the game, but I can't play properly with this

real prairie
lost sun
cyan smelt
real prairie
split stone
lost sun
#

1785 to be exact then I won the next game now I'm 1800

cyan smelt
#

i'm not hopping back on champions until i optimise my team

real prairie
#

1800 in the past has been pretty good, but seems higher scale in Champions

#

ill keep pushing then lol

lost sun
#

ye I've seen people get 2k+

cyan smelt
#

my rating is probably lol

#

low

real prairie
#

highest rating for the WUC think was 1970 or something that won

cyan smelt
#

i'm not very good at this game

split stone
#

Can the game just derank me already

#

I am terrible at competitive can I be derank back down to pokeball now

real prairie
split stone
#

When casual is no better then ranked

real prairie
# real prairie

White herb for Sneasler, the berry that reduces ice or fairy damage for Garchomp

cyan smelt
#

seeing a lot of mega floette so fairy reduction berry might be better

real prairie
#

Could change garchomp rock slide if you felt like running something else

cyan smelt
lost sun
real prairie
cyan smelt
#

thing is a nuke

real prairie
#

don't bring Garchomp to that fight

cyan smelt
#

as a matter of fact don't bring sneasler or gambit either because that thing hits hard

real prairie
cyan smelt
#

evil

lost sun
#

bro wants to 1 shot tera poison Incin

real prairie
#

I was tempted to run a calc earlier but didn't have time, wanted to see if it can OHKO with moonblast into Aeigslash with fake tears drop

split stone
#

When the ranks reset I'm just staying in pokeball tier

lost sun
#

I think they reset on June 17th

real prairie
#

okay no, i was correct to switch out

252 SpA Fairy Aura Floette-Mega Moonblast vs. -2 0 HP / 0 SpD Aegislash-Shield: 92-108 (68.1 - 80%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

cyan smelt
#

looks like my best lead so far is gambit kang

#

but that's only from 27 matches

#

but my gxe has improved to 63%

#

rock slide sneasler is kinda good ngl

split stone
#

Can I just derank myself now so I don't have to go up against try hards using meta pokemon

cyan smelt
#

people like to win, there's no point using suboptimal pokemon

split stone
#

At least tomodachi life is out in two day that will calm me down for a while until the ranks are reset so I can stay in pokeball tier and never go out of it

#

I just want to have fun with battles using some stupid pokemon as well instead of having to use the meta

next stump
#

the team you sent earlier is good

split stone
mint void
real prairie
mint void
#

I need metagross to not be illegal pls

#

wanted to recycle one of my SV teams but I miss like half the team :|

real prairie
lost sun
#

did u draw that

split stone
#

I want to able to use pokemon like audino and they eeveelutions but I can't always have to use the meta

split stone
mint void
#

-_-

#

you playing tournaments?

real prairie
#

was inspired by this

lost sun
real prairie
gentle cragBOT
split stone
mint void
#

just fuck around with sth you think is fun or funny

split stone
split stone
mint void
#

just lose

#

dont need to win to troll about

split stone
red willow
#

How common are high single target grass damage threats?

#

I guess venu

#

But outside of that I cant think of many

noble hatch
#

mega meganium

#

solar beam go brrr

mint void
#

Im getting trolled in my first 2 games...wdym 5xQuick Claw Proc+1% survive :|

real prairie
earnest rapids
bold geode
earnest rapids
chrome knot
#

what does that even mean

earnest rapids
#

As in, played on an actual switch 2 and with no mods

chrome knot
#

he is the reigning vgc world champion

earnest rapids
#

That's wolfe

chrome knot
#

no

#

wolfe hasn’t won worlds since 2016

waxen dock
bold geode
bold geode
#

@chrome knot the shiggy wiggy

indigo coral
bold geode
#

Not sure tbh

formal parrot
#

Starting to figure out my rain team because Triple ghost is working, but not sure on Meganium

#

Pelipper, Bridge, Tea, and Aegislash putting in work

next dust
#

The amount of people making reddit posts about cheating but it's actually Zoroark is killing me

foggy lodge
brisk crater
#

Ive heard people complain so much about the meta and when they sre given a solution they refuse to follow it

wild stream
#

zoroark feels like something you need to practice with to be able to use effectively

sharp prism
#

Anyone got a good team layout? I am trying to get into competitive pokemon but have no clue about good teams

dull ibex
#

What kinda player are you

sharp prism
#

What do you mean?

#

Like in playstyle?

dull ibex
#

Yes

sharp prism
#

Um idk. I usually just play the games with whatever pokemon look cool

#

Im fine with anything you got

dull ibex
#

Hold on

#

I'm testing this

#

Have no idea if it's good for someone brand new though

#

You probably want Draco Meteor over dragon pulse on dnite

spiral zealot
#

i think Rain is pretty good for new players cat_nod

dull ibex
spiral zealot
#

anything that has a clear strategy and wincon i think is good

sharp prism
gentle cragBOT
dull ibex
sharp prism
#

Another question. Do i get the pokemon through other games and put them on champions or do i just gamble

spiral zealot
#

if you have any other games, thats gonna be the simplest way to get the specific pokemon that you want

gentle cragBOT
real prairie
#

meh, bot stuff

#

whenever you say thank you to someone you give them positive feedback for the channel basically

knotty geyser
#

Anyone having a hard time finding games in champions?

real prairie
#

Sorry, nope

knotty geyser
#

I keep infinitely serching for an opponent then I get a communication error

chrome knot
#

need like a beginner tier draft team league lmao

#

all the ones going on are like NPA NPAA all shit out of my skill level

real prairie
chrome knot
#

im not gonna be the one organizing it theyre alot of work

#

team captain/manager(s), all the shit that goes behind organizing it & then a playerbase

#

all kinda exhausting and hard to find

tired jay
#

I’m hard stuck great ball 2 for sum reason and I can’t tell if it’s my team or me 😭

noble hatch
#

is the only way to prevent whimsicott tailwind rn to have a faster mon that knows fake out?

chrome knot
#

any fake out mon

noble hatch
#

am i misremembering priority? i thought fake out was +1?

#

or is it +2?

#

and prankster only +1?

chrome knot
#

fake out is like +3

noble hatch
#

why did i think it was only +1?

#

its also really funny that fake out has same priority as quick guard

tired jay
dull ibex
#

Idk then

#

what do you guys think of stalwart chople

polar canyon
#

I haven't played archa rain yet but I thought hurricane pelipper was enough of a response to it

polar canyon
#

Well it seems fine

#

Not that many items you'd wanna run on it anyways

dull ibex
#

yeah

polar canyon
#

I've run into white herb for draco meteor which is pretty cool

indigo coral
polar canyon
#

Wait does stalwart ignore lightning rod too?

indigo coral
#

Yup

polar canyon
#

That's a detail I didn't know

#

Maybe that makes stalwart worth it

indigo coral
#

ALL redirection. That'll even include Storm Drain when we get Gastrodon eventually

noble hatch
polar canyon
indigo coral
noble hatch
#

i was literally playing with that team yesterday XD

polar canyon
#

I kinda do wanna also use raichu for fake out electroweb

#

Fake out speed control is pretty nice

noble hatch
#

it is really nice