#competitive_discussion

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Max speed no speed boosting nature you hit 151 though so that's 302 after Geomancy Jesus dude

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Oh and it's heavy hmm

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timber schooner
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Is that a one hit ko from gyroball bronzong

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Oh nvm Xern is getting hit with that 120 BP Zam Heavy LOL

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Not really

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Still probably get chunked by the Moonblast

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Is there anything with priority clear smog

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Actually so what are the changes stat wise for the Primals

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timber schooner
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The only reason xerneas didn't win in 2016 was because wolfie vgc hard stopped that entire team

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Fucker got 50 Spatk points

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Ah

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Both Primals got 50 points dumped into their worse offense stat

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Which actually is the one time I will say good idea Pokemon

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Primal groundon has stronger eruption

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Will say idk what to think about the speed staying the same

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Mega xerneas

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shadow wind
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For some reason I thought Kyogre would have a lot more special moves

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Like Groudon with physical moves

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dense latch
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ancient power groudon 🔥

solid frigate
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shadow wind
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Even then Groudon has a billion moves

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shadow wind
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That’s in SV

foggy lodge
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Conner

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Im going to send you to the reddit island

shadow wind
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What’s that mean

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I’m scared bro

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Sounds like a punishment

foggy lodge
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It is

shadow wind
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What did I do to deserve this

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I’ve been nothing but a normie I swear

foggy lodge
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That's the problem

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Too normie for reddit you are getting #educated

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You are going to meme lessons therapy in the reddit island

shadow wind
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Wait but my ball knowledge is so elite

foggy lodge
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Do you know about the reddit island incident

shadow wind
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Not that elite

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But I know loads of other ball knowledge I swear

foggy lodge
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Then you are normie

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No actually the reddit island thing is so fucking funny i love that story

shadow wind
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What even is it

foggy lodge
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Some bunch of redditors thought it was a good idea to have their own country on an island and tried to save money to buy one and supposedly they would move there once they bought it and create their own society

shadow wind
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Oh nah

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That would be the worst island to date

solid frigate
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Yeah people can be this crazy

shadow wind
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I can't even think of a worse one at all

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Remember when Mr beast gave away an island

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Why did he do that

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I dislike mr beast very strongly

solid frigate
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Think of the content to attract children ngl

foggy lodge
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For obvious reasons this people didn't have enough money to buy the island so their idea was to get Mr Beast to but it for them

shadow wind
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W idea

foggy lodge
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And the even funniest part

shadow wind
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Eh oh well seems like my memory has been wiped and I can't remember

foggy lodge
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Is that they wanted an island of Cuba

shadow wind
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I've been to Cuba

foggy lodge
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I think you can put 2+2 to know how the idea of buying an island of Cuba is LOL

shadow wind
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W place

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Maybe I just like beaches though

foggy lodge
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It seems like a good place

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Idk I haven't been in Cuba LOL

solid frigate
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I heard it’s nice for vacations

left bobcat
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NO

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WHATEVER YOU DO DONT GO GO CUBA

lost sun
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what's wrong with Cuba

dapper crag
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Communism

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The fuck did I

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sudden remnant
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there you’ve been sent to brazil

dull ibex
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so i like life orb koraidon, I do not like the hybrid nature of gio's team, any advice?

shadow wind
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Hybrid nature??

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Hold up Giovanni's team had 5/6 mons first playable in gen 9

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Thank god Groudon has his own power creep cause I would not be able to go on if this was how things were going

molten oasis
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Play Evan’s team and replace the clam with lorb then

dull ibex
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I don't like that mix

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also I dont have raging bolt

shadow wind
molten oasis
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That’s not a calm mind Lunala type of team

dull ibex
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Can anyone put parting shot on my incin

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Changing up this team a bit

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Using rocky helm incin, and life orb Korai

molten oasis
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Good luck I guess

dull ibex
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unless this needs the clam on korai

dull ibex
molten oasis
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Lunala (in this case) wants to sit and set up, and I think the value of Lunala next to korai is a supportive restricted to wide guard for the horses and ogre spout (if that position happen) or Mirai gleam

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And trick room for speed control against tw teams

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Fair

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What changes about the team with clam korai

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Isn't that a preference thing

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dull ibex
dull ibex
brisk crater
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i hate smeargle lowk

dapper crag
bold geode
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CHAT THE LIVESTREAM IS UP NOW TO WAIT

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Time for the 2026 Pokemon Houston regional championships

lost sun
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foggy lodge
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Wolfey is at Houston

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Yeah honestly surprised by that

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3 of the people in top 12 have autos

foggy lodge
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Crown deedee

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Ok rooting for everything BUT Crown Deedee

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Actually I'm doing that anyways, fuck Iron Crown

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LET'S GO GIO

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Fuslie on stream is actually so fucking fire

foggy lodge
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I didn't know she was here

bold geode
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Me neither

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She apparently was at Seattle

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Posted something recently

foggy lodge
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And she is using Crown Deedee LOL

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I'll give Fuslie some credit for the fit though

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Wait

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Wait was she supposed to tera

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No way they did it again right

foggy lodge
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Fusler's controller is not responding

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Oh

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For a sec, I thought they forgot to get the Tera orb for a console

lost sun
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why do people give ursaluna a master ball

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dense latch
# lost sun why do people give ursaluna a master ball

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Yeah its a hilarious bait

foggy lodge
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I still don't understand this lead

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next stump
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going on stream for VG now

dense latch
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let's go dillon 🔥 good luck

waxen dock
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Thats your 4th time right?

lost sun
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ting lu and dondozo looks so boring to play against

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Let's go

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@next stump YEAH THATS MY GOAT

lost sun
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nice one dillon

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halo

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chrome knot
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i been ok

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Good

chrome knot
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Be a real bummer if not

chrome knot
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i have no real hopes i just want to play some good pokemon

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Honestly

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megas format would be so cool

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i want mawile

dapper crag
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We’re getting that

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Depends if they’re all in or not

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Pretty much

bold geode
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Yeah

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I want Mega Chandelure

chrome knot
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i just meant i wanted to experience that format xd

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I also want Mega Clefable to be good

chrome knot
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clef stats are so lacklustre bruh

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she is going nowhere

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Yeah that's what I was saying like bruh they're advertising it so hard

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Also can't wait for Mega Kang to probably just still be one of the better megas KEKW

chrome knot
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parental bond got nerfed & power up punch got removed

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Yeah but two hit moves is still something and it got the Scrappy AND Inner Focus buffs for the base

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Actually imo the real nerf is like

chrome knot
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idk to do what with

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It lost Return and Frustration

chrome knot
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the nerf is power creep

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So now you choose either Double Edge or like what
Body Slam?

chrome knot
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double edge ur literally gonna die in 1 turn basically

bold geode
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I mean it was still good in Gen 7 after the nerfs, and even now I don't think it's THAT much worse

chrome knot
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i think body slam for para fish

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Yeah two chances to para is stupid

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But also
Girl have you seen the word on Metagross

chrome knot
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not rly

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ive seen alot of jpn concept teams theyre so cool

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So like
Let's say we're in a world where eventually
The megas and the treasures of ruin are in the game, which probably could happen right

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At neutral with SoR

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Mega Metagross two taps Incineroar with Heavy Slam 💀

chrome knot
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LOL

bold geode
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And also one taps Rilla

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i rly wanna see pao&lop

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Probably could be good

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Does Lop have E Speed?

chrome knot
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no

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is same speed as pao tho

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wait

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ig its a cc uturn fake out bot

bold geode
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Oh it's 135? That's nice

chrome knot
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bc wtf normal stab

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I feel like others with prio would be nice

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Like Pao + Meta or Pao + Lucario

chrome knot
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has mach punch but lol

bold geode
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It got Scrappy right

chrome knot
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ye

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its mega is scrappy

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I guess that's something LOL

chrome knot
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shes just cool

bold geode
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What else hmm

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Oh God forbid we're in a format where you can make Reg H Marco Sun with Zard Y

chrome knot
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raging bolt

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I mean Zard Y also just enables other Bolt

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Also one funny thing non mega right

dull ibex
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I need to get a raging bolt

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Can we just acknowledge that Aegislash is almost forever out of a job LMAO

chrome knot
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JOBLESS

dull ibex
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Is aegislash is going to be bad or something?

bold geode
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No Emma here's what you do right

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That's all it took

dull ibex
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Deadass now your only way of use is like

dull ibex
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I was thinking wide guard support

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Oh hey I'm in a restricted format and I need WG but don't wanna use Zama, here's Aegislash

chrome knot
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yay incin food

bold geode
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But yeah sure they do different things but Good as Gold is too damn broken

chrome knot
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just use pelipper

dull ibex
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I just want to know what mons I can use already 😭

bold geode
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Aegislash shot in the Bronx

dull ibex
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Thankfully I have a shiny dengo 🙂

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Monke I found a tailwind team I wanted to learn

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I'm still losing lmao

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Cuz if so, they made Mega Golurk and made it irrelevant at the same time KEKW

dapper crag
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No Guard plus Fissure rarely ends well

chrome knot
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it won’t keep this

dapper crag
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Better not

chrome knot
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lets use common sense

bold geode
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That would be fucking funny

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How many would it even get off

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Emma for some reason Golurk having Fissure just reminds me of that one I Carly scene where Spencer has an ostrich

bold geode
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The fucking crab

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And my beautiful chud son Starmie

waxen dock
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How is dillon doing r4

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Is he 4-0?

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3-1

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Damn Wolfe is 3-1 now all the Twitch chatters gonna be mad all day today

near crag
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I mean it's alright

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At least starting out it's alright

chrome knot
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@bold geode my favourite format is back what do i do

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UHHHHHHH

chrome knot
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yes!

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Honestly atm it's not that much different from what it was before

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Pretty sure not that many of the very top crowd have engaged in Reg I just yet

chrome knot
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i think ditto will be champ this tome

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So Zam CSR is still good
Sun is still good cuz of Zam CSR

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Koraidon Ice Rider is interesting

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Mirai Nala of course

chrome knot
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i just think

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Idk where Ditto fits, probably with Mirai CIR?

chrome knot
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ditto fits where u want it to

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idk why but i rly liked zam dnite pao ditto

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but you cant rly build around that bc then its like mirai or csr only

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usually scarf mirai

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sash ditto

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I mean there was that one team that MDB and Montana Mott used at Worlds

chrome knot
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but then you lose alot of human structure

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Yeah idk
Ditto is just a Pokemon I find a lil wack but

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i love ditto

bold geode
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That's really just a personal thing

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Like I don't really like to use Pokemon with that much of a risk factor/skill expression factor

chrome knot
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its a pokemon that has insane use cases if you know when to fish for it

bold geode
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Like idt it's bad, it's just like
Fitting it in without losing that structure as you said

chrome knot
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it has structure obv as like

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mirai cir incin ursh ditto

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but when you deviate its harder to build around

bold geode
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Right that's why I was thinking Mirai CIR

chrome knot
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zam is just broken with dnite pao which is why i liked the idea of deviating

bold geode
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Right

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I think it is pretty crazy

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Though also like
Zam Dnite Pao Ditto, how do you beat Volcarona

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You introduce yourself as Volcarona ok

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Solid strategy

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nono ditto does

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Oh well who says you're not Ditto

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Didn't think of that huh

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Anyways yeah that's probably fine for right now

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Only thing to worry about is like maybe certain Trick Room comps

chrome knot
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painsplit nuclear bomb

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True

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Probably only one that makes that hard is MAYBE Indeedee but I haven't seen too much Indeedee

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ok its working and im winning but vgc is boring

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dull ibex
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@foggy lodge they said 6 7 I'm jumping off a bridge

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shadow wind
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Also this bo3 ladder is somehow more brainrot than the bo1 ladder

molten oasis
dapper crag
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What’s the policy on discussing a rumor I heard in terms of the new mega abilities?

foggy lodge
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You can

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@chrome knot oh is Kat up against Wolfe

foggy lodge
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This chat specifically is not spoiler free

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I would just tag it with the spoiler thing

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Yeah

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Blud are you gonna get it out

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Some source in China suggested these are some of the mega abilities, but it’s based on anecdotal evidence: ||

  • Froslass: Snow Warning
  • Drampa: Drizzle
  • Raichu (Unspecified): Electric Surge
  • Eelektross: Something new
  • Staraptor: Unclear, but attack boost after Intimidate
  • Clefable: Misty Surge
  • Darkrai: Bad Dreams
  • Magearna: Soul Heart
  • Baxcalibur: Thermal Exchange
  • Zeraora: Speed Boost
  • Golisopod: Potentially Tough Claws
  • Crabominable: Similar effect reported as Staraptor
  • Lucario Z: Prankster was suggested, but the wording is uncertain
  • Glimmora: Probably Levitate
  • Feraligatr: New ability
  • Pyroar: New ability
  • Excadrill: New ability ||
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The original source is some screenshots in Chinese and I can’t read that shit

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Kat lost damn

dapper crag
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I found an image translator now trying to figure out what it even says

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chrome knot
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really funny @ x-2 tables too

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Real

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i don’t keep up with her abt vgc bc we broke up like a month ago

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Oh I'm sorry I had no idea

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because obv there was no reason to make it public

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we’re on good terms ofc lol

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Well that's good at least

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Shit it's gonna be Wolfe ain't it

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Holy shit we're not seeing Wolfe

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no

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“leaks” or guesses are always so wrong lol

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@foggy lodge is this guy related to Aaron?

forest arrow
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Hudson Qius team looks sick asf

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Low-key I might just be racist

foggy lodge
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No because Ruizhe is Zhang

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Aaron is Zheng

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Oh I'm racist them KEKW

foggy lodge
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kinda yeah LOL

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LMFAO

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Fuck

chrome knot
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LMAO

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How do I consistently find ways to be accidentally racist

foggy lodge
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I don't like this tera grass entei ngl

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Wait I actually fought this guy on ladder what the helly

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We were 1-1 in bo3s on ladder

molten oasis
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foggy lodge
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KoonKy?

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Yeah Koen Van Cann

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@chrome knot is your mom kinda homeless

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Lmfao

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My friend fought him too

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The SD name was koen2003

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So I'm not 100% sure

foggy lodge
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I think his showdown account was just KoonKy

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But maybe its an alt so

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Anyways
Do we think the teams will be out today or

dense latch
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na regionals take longer usually

foggy lodge
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This is not serious

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If he TR'd here he would have won

foggy lodge
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I think there's been delays before

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@foggy lodge y'know the guy that got to 5-0 and in that stream interview said his goal was 5-3 at least

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You'll never guess what he ended at KEKW

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6-7!

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montana mott regional form just dropped

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rustic mountain
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imprison zama so lame bruh

near crag
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I got upper handed once and faked out twice in my dragonite last match (1300 elo btw)

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Playing paonite feels just so

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Chat Day 2 finna be lit

waxen dock
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its mid-low ladder

near crag
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Yeah, but way too high for that stuff

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huh

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You are stimky

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@feral wraith isn't Nova stinky

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You both are

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Yeah but she stink more huh

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@bold geode 300 million dollars if u can guess what move cir presses

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why am i stinky

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not stinky

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@bold geode 2 shieldfish in top 8

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Love it

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There's actually a paste out for that team

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Is that Hirofumi's team in two spots there

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Also @foggy lodge I think Wolfe has become a Sun player LOL

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I think he hasn't dropped sun since EUIC lol

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Wait nah he used that Horoark team at Milwaukee

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He didn't bring Sun to this last Milwaukee

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That was it LOL

foggy lodge
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But everything else has been Koraidon/Torkoal

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His team was something though this time LOL

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Fucking Imprison Landorus

foggy lodge
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He is out😔

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But I think that if he wins now he makes top 16

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He has a high resistance

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Nah

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Actually wait no he's not X-2 but standings yeah he could

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oops lol

foggy lodge
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Why is there a regular Ninetales in cut

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Ggs Carson won xd

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Urshifu dark wins from now on

molten oasis
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Shifu dark tournament?

foggy lodge
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This is the moment where psyspam is the strongest

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Also dozogiri

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Its annoying against paonite

molten oasis
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Hm

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Two Texans in top 8 🔥

chrome knot
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whos in top8

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did lucy fleming win

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Lucy is in top 8

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They're gonna stream all the top 8 sets

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She'll be against Carson Confer

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Kanto Ninetales against Primarina

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her team is a sun team

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Yeah and she has Primarina KEKW

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Unironically I feel Primarina was actually potentially better this format than H

chrome knot
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obv it working

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Its ok into bolt

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i mean it can only be prio’d

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and jet will slowly bring it down

rustic mountain
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bando went off

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Regular Ninetales vs Primarina

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Lowkey most fun match of reg F ever

rustic mountain
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damn carson played that so well

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dick in ass team

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boring asf

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this was lucys time

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Lucy actually almost won that, crazy

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Figured on that final turn it was over

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I thought tailwind was over for Carson and she had tailwind earthquake

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But nope lol

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Nah it was the last turn

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Man Ninetales top 4

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Actually really strong team

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Yeah

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was up a game didn’t need to swap lando

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Yeah

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@bold geode felt my frontal lobe devolve in real time as i saw this

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That's a GIGA impish pon

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impish waterpon is broken

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brought dat to toronto

foggy lodge
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Wild comeback from Gio

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Wait this is good

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Tho clicking the tera here sucks

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foggy lodge
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You know what I don't blame them

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We are stuck in reg F for 2 more weeks lets just do whatever we need to do

molten oasis
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And then we get stuck in reg I for 2 months

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Isn’t VGC just the best guys

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foggy lodge
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How do you even win this MU if you are Carson

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Cresselia Ursaluna is just so strong against this team

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And AV Incin

dense latch
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what’s the other top 4 pairing?

foggy lodge
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Well ggs Carson won LOL

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Incredible play by Carson

dense latch
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i can’t believe regular ninetales is gonna be in finals

rustic mountain
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dude that call

foggy lodge
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The Urshi dark is just very strong against the Incin Cress Ursa core

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Good gameplan to revolve it around darkshifu

dense latch
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carson is so good at this game damn

foggy lodge
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How tf does hard TR beat urshifu dark + imprison farig

rustic mountain
foggy lodge
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Maybe Smeargle hard TR can beat it

rustic mountain
gentle cragBOT
rustic mountain
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I didn't believe in darkshifu enough

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Man I'm glad I went away from Reg F

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This meta is ass

rustic mountain
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lmao

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reg f is fine we are just jaded on sv

foggy lodge
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Ninetales is cool

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I hope Carson wins he deserves it

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Good team with a good player in a good day

rustic mountain
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hes def been on a roll

bold geode
rustic mountain
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ppl were tired of balance'

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so u build ho good enough to break it, then the cycle repeats

bold geode
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Yeah but now like
It just feels like a slap boxing contest

foggy lodge
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Also these Chi Yu stuff are good against psyspam

rustic mountain
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eh ive seen some really good sets this weekend

foggy lodge
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The format is just gonna be in an endless cycle

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EUIC was the balace moment

bold geode
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Yeah they've been good sets but like man

rustic mountain
foggy lodge
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That too

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Honestly I knew that this shift would happen but I'm disappointed I'm right KEKW

foggy lodge
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I like how Chi Yu is more used in NA and Incin more in EU

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kek

rustic mountain
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like i feel u monke to a certain extent, reg f isnt bad but we all expected to b just about done w/ sv and now we arent, any format we get still is gna feel kinda meh as a result

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ive enjoyed reg i for all of 2 seconds before being like damn wens champions comin out, granted still wanna use a cppl different teams but still

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CHAMPIONS DEMO NEXT WEEK GUYS REMEMBER WE ARE SO BACK

rustic mountain
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yea i saw, its gna b lame

bold geode
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Right
I mean honestly until the Reg I announcement, I thought TPCi was doing an okay job keeping us busy til Champs

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But at some point you can only keep people busy for so long

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And I think we're at that point now

rustic mountain
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we r goin on like wat 4 years just about on sv? and we are just recycling formats they needed to do a better job of extending other formats to not run into this

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if we had 1 or 2 new formats instead of repeating 3 ppl would feel a lot different

dense latch
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late 2022- early 2026

bold geode
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I just don't understand why we're changing formats for like maybe a month

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Like unless we run SV thru all of May what's the point

rustic mountain
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p sure some events will b reg i in may

foggy lodge
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Almost a presidential cycle of SV

rustic mountain
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champions realistically is gna b very choppy w/ official irl events, itll b like 1 region has it for qualifiers (think its been confirmed) and then prolly slowly get rolled out everywhere else for the actual circuits

dense latch
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im grateful that champions was a thing imagine waiting until 2027 for a new mainline game to play vgc on

bold geode
foggy lodge
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Also some national in asia was confirmed to still be reg F in april/may

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I like that we will have 3 active formats at the same time

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Some nationals reg F
Global challenge champions
The rest of the circuit reg I

rustic mountain
bold geode
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If NAIC ain't Champs, that'll be actual garbage

bold geode
foggy lodge
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It has to be champions

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Japan nats its before NAIC and that will be champions

bold geode
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Like the reason Winds and Waves looks that good is cuz there's no Switch 1 port most likely

rustic mountain
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we r kinda getting the short end of the stick if they do away w/ turn based combat in the mainline games if u think about it now that gen 10+ r seemingly gna look way better. small complaint but yea champions has squandered any hype i had

bold geode
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Honestly I may be crazy but I want them to go with ZA's style of combat

rustic mountain
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im just speculating they may keep turn based but seeing how weve gotten legends games where it is different and vgc being moved to another game maybe its time

dense latch
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i’d love a mix between za and turn based

rustic mountain
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za combat is meh

bold geode
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I honestly loved the ZA combat, for me it felt refreshing

rustic mountain
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good start tho

dense latch
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like for wild battles that’d be fun

foggy lodge
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ZA's battle system is reason I didn't buy that game lol

rustic mountain
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ok its not that bad lol

foggy lodge
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But I don't think its fundamentally flawed its just that I think it needs some tuning

rustic mountain
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it needs a lot of tuning

bold geode
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It was refreshing to have something different after 3 years of Pokemon consumption being just VGC

rustic mountain
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sure it just got stale

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its not fluid enough

bold geode
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Yeah it could be tuned but it was their first time really going into that style + especially in online play, I feel it's honestly rough to perfect that style

rustic mountain
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it wasnt awful for a first attempt

bold geode
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Yeah I think it was good
I know stuff ain't gonna be perfect first try either

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Which like btw that's what pisses me off with a lot of general gamers

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Why do we expect perfection right out the gate

rustic mountain
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ppl want everything in an instant

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instant gratification has become rampant in society

bold geode
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Yeah then they bitch when shit is not done right even if they rushed it out

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I remember the combat system in Cyberpunk had that issue

rustic mountain
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also too u gta realize, internet is also like majority bots and rage baiters so most times its not actually reflective of what most ppl think

bold geode
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Real

dense latch
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i cant take any blue checkmark takes seriously on twitter

bold geode
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Also I swear like
So I play Rivals right
And one thing I've learned from that community

foggy lodge
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I uninstalled twitter like 2 days ago

dense latch
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they get paid for ragebaiting lol

bold geode
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Is that 95% of gamers don't know how to balance a game or how to keep one stable

rustic mountain
bold geode
foggy lodge
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I hate public internet sites in general its incredible how you get rewardes just by talking rather than by saying stuff that makes sense

rustic mountain
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like yea wat if we made a platform where opinions can be strategically monetized surely that wont be awful

bold geode
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What if some opinions that were monetized were controversial anyone hear that

foggy lodge
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But tbh I stopped taking it seriously long ago

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Internet makes you think its the mainstream site just by the amount of stuff it shows you so fast

rustic mountain
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the internet got hijacked, free sourcing of information and understanding? nah lets just make money off senseless opinions that pick on peoples insecurities and delusions

foggy lodge
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Its a niche place that makes you think everyone is there

bold geode
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And then there's Blue sky which like

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Man how many people even use Bluesky LMAO

foggy lodge
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Who knows LOL

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Btw Dylan is a bleakwind miss away from losing

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Gg Dylan

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Game 3

bold geode
# foggy lodge Who knows LOL

I loved that like 4 hour period where a bunch of idiots actually thought that Bluesky would be a good alternative for Twitter

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And everyone was talking about moving over to Bluesky and then like barely anyone did

rustic mountain
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wasnt that the one where u needed to be invited

foggy lodge
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How did Ogerpon just click cudgel 3 times in a row and evey single target got OHKO'd

bold geode
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I made an account just fine

foggy lodge
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I want to see how good the Ninetales is against crown indeedee

rustic mountain
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oh

rustic mountain
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dude chi yu felt so bad for justin

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ogerpon took it out like every game

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nd it did nothing

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either based kanto ninetales or unbased psyspam

foggy lodge
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Also darkshifu won

rustic mountain
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torn as well

foggy lodge
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How good is the MU for Carson here

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I think Ninetales actually comes reducing damage on cudgel from waterpon can be huge lol

tiny karmaBOT
foggy lodge
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Incredible how they made this mon work LOL

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Life orb coming to solve any type of lack of damage

rustic mountain
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both have tr available as well

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not knowing either team that well off rip id say it slightly favors dylan tho

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e force in the wrong spot seems like it can be devastating

foggy lodge
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Yeah

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Honestly I lile the Ninetales so much here its like the perfect way to see how a niche mon fits on a standard team

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Rockpon Torn Flutter are weak against steel types or tera steels so Ninetales solves that problem + letting Tornadus not run a weather control move and good sinergy with Flutter

rustic mountain
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yep

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damn dylans darkshifu put in work

foggy lodge
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So annoying

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This is not bad for Carson

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Tera dazzling heat wave kills both even with tera water from crown

foggy lodge
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i think this goes to game 3

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GAME 3

rustic mountain
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that g2 had such slim margins

foggy lodge
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Late tailwind won Carson the game holy

rustic mountain
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  • conserving tera for torn
foggy lodge
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Yeah

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Its must suck so much to want to play hard TR in Seville and see how this team wins LOL

rustic mountain
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idk tho dylan botching t1 and that atk into torn mid game and still almost winning

foggy lodge
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If he went for calm mind on that turn tor tected i think it could have been different

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Cuz he didn't expanding to not let Carson get the free switch into dark ursh

rustic mountain
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or just eliminate flutter

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the switch was fine hed have the speed advantage

foggy lodge
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carson is going for the read

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HEAT WAVE MISS

rustic mountain
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oof

foggy lodge
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welp

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Helping hand expanding

bold geode
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Yikes

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Is that GGs?

foggy lodge
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What do you do now

rustic mountain
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but not unwinnable

bold geode
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I think that's just GGs honestly idk how well you can play this out

foggy lodge
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Okay it's fine

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3 turns left

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You trade crown here

rustic mountain
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now u sac ninetales protect urshi and then tera torn idk wat u do from there tho

bold geode
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How do you get thru 3 turns

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I feel like you need a double somewhere

rustic mountain
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super risky turn but ok

foggy lodge
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2 turns left

bold geode
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

foggy lodge
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The thing is that tachyon kills ursh here

rustic mountain
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oh wait he tera;d already nvm lmao

bold geode
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You need doubles

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Two doubles

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Or you need a double on Tornadus

foggy lodge
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aw man

bold geode
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Alright can the Torn get a double

foggy lodge
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Wait doesn't earth power ursh tachyon torn get the double KO

bold geode
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Can Flutter 1v3?

foggy lodge
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Its +1 quark drive

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aw man

bold geode
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You need a double on Torn

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Double on Torn Sac Ursh

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GGs

foggy lodge
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Man does

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Sucker punch Lando I into Flutter dazzling win

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Because its tera fairy specs dazzling gleam

bold geode
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No Sash

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It's GGs

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It's a 3v1

foggy lodge
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Crit dazzling

dense latch
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i think he had to sucker to have a chance with flutter

foggy lodge
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Depends on the last pick anyways

bold geode
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Had to Sucker Landorus yeah

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HUH

dense latch
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wait

bold geode
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Excuse me?

dense latch
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hold?

foggy lodge
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NO WAIT NONONO WAIT

bold geode
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Did Dylan just throw

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Why did he switch

foggy lodge
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no yeah i think he loses

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He wants to stall tailwind

dense latch
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i think he staggers carson’s tailwind enough to win anyways

bold geode
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Bro it was Sludge Bomb always

foggy lodge
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And then protect tailwind into sludge bomb

bold geode
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Does TW end after this turn?

foggy lodge
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MAN WITH SUCKER HE WOULD HAVE WON

bold geode
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Bro

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Texas fucking failed to win smfh

chrome knot
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what a fucking int

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why didn’t he sucker lando LOL

bold geode
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Did Carson forget he could even Sucker

foggy lodge
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With sucker tailwind he wins always

chrome knot
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player of that calibre can’t be forgetting game mechanics brah

foggy lodge
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Flutter in tailwind is faster than everything

chrome knot
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nice troll lol go next

bold geode
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Yeah that's such a mistake

foggy lodge
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Man Ninetales had it

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aw man

bold geode
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Bro it blows so hard

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Had 3 people from TexasVGC in top 8

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And they all fucking lost

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Huge flop

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At least we're done with Regulation F right

foggy lodge
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Nope next week Seville wujuu

bold geode
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I'm gonna shit on your porch

bold geode
foggy lodge
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Top 32 he gets good points

bold geode
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Apparently he was 74th in NA going into this

foggy lodge
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That + the NA auto invites

dense latch
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he had a cool team

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imprison lando i ddance gouging fire

foggy lodge
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I think he only needs another good result to secure his invite

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If he even wants to go to worlds

bold geode
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Possibly

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Or he just wins Orlando worry

foggy lodge
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Because how many people got autoinvites in NA

bold geode
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But how many autos are in that top 80

foggy lodge
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I think everyone who won a regional is there

bold geode
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Cuz if they're not it kinda don't matter

foggy lodge
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Except maybe Chuppa Cross cuz he just won his regional and stopped playing lol

bold geode
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LMAO

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He did cancel Orlando

foggy lodge
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Tbh if I won a regional I wouldn't play either

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What a fucking horrible season has 2026 been

bold geode
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I mean I'd probably go to like a couple

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Depending on my vibes but y'know

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Like I would just go to have fun

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Actually low-key if I won a regional I'd just dick around for the rest of the season LMAO

molten oasis
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This season is, not good, it was supposed to be the mega season and we haven’t seen megas lmao

rustic mountain
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its been a mega season alright, a mega disappointment

dapper crag
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Because everyone’s done with SV and waiting on Champions

dense latch
foggy lodge
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@bold geode I hand you this a sign of disrespect https://youtu.be/tJByihl9sP4?si=VrYz_auEseBhDEGA

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dense latch
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aside from vegas

bold geode
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I have played some Incin Rilla recently I'll have you know

foggy lodge
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Then for @molten oasis

bold geode
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I went back away from it but I played it

foggy lodge
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I have played

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0 teams now!!!

bold geode
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What

foggy lodge
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I played reg I the first two days then realized champions is way too soon for me to try to engage again with SV and stopped

molten oasis
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I can play fake out

foggy lodge
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Comp chat got hands

bold geode
# foggy lodge Comp chat got hands

I've been playing Reg I here and there
I like dual restricted and don't know when it'll be back
But it's also something to do and I do it less because Rivals new season dropped and it's actually fun so I have something else rn

molten oasis
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I play sometimes but not too much

foggy lodge
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@molten oasis what do you think of Carson's team

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I know you like alolan ninetales but what about regular ninetales

molten oasis
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I legit haven’t been watching lemme look up the paste rq

foggy lodge
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Check pokedata

molten oasis
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I like both Ninetales I just like Alolan a lot more

foggy lodge
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You'll see it quick

rustic mountain
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cant wait to see what a shitshow champions is gna b

molten oasis
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True

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@foggy lodge that is indeed a cool team

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I feel like it’s similar logic to how some a9 were ran in reg h

foggy lodge
waxen dock
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so fun to lose 30 elo to a low roll

solid frigate
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Get used to it

sudden remnant
shadow wind
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Lowkey is fun

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Cause then you learn how to not lose to it

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Collecting losses to eventually win them all

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#ImGettingBetter

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#LearningNewMatchups

solid frigate
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At least like winning the matches you think it’s still possible

waxen dock
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at least give me like 12

shadow wind
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What was the other guys elo?

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Cause if it's a 250 elo gap you deserve 7 for cranking a 1200s player

shadow wind
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Because they're a 1200s player

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On average they're worse

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Wouldn't be fair if you got the same elo as someone in your elo range

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Kinda the entire point of an elo system

waxen dock
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and he was high 1200

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almost 1300

chrome knot
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that is a near 300 elo gap brah

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did u want a cookie for the expected result

waxen dock
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every timei lose to some low roll i lose 30 elo

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how is that fair

chrome knot
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play better

waxen dock
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i cant win every match if i get unlucky

chrome knot
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playing optimally will minimize luck

solid frigate
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And try play the outs even against you

shadow wind
waxen dock
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also he can then get a littleunlucky or me getting super unlucky and he wins

shadow wind
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Yeah that's mons bro

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Have zero clue why you're complaining about a thing that's been clear since day 1

potent umbra
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Kyogre with the blue orb

shadow wind
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What about him

lost sun
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he's with the blue orb

next stump
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Just a few more days until champions gameplay at PAX lets gooo

dapper crag
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Oh it’s on Thursday

foggy lodge
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I tried to investiga the pax schedule and I didn't find anything lol

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I don't even know if that champions demo will be playable on day 1 of pax east

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Maybe it is? I didn't find any info on how pax east actually works so idk

dapper crag
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Could be three different booths.

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I could probably find the floor plan

forest arrow
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Can’t wait for any info

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Hopefully we see some of the new megas abilities

dapper crag
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Hopefully

forest arrow
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Been shalpha hunting for the past month getting everything ready for champs lol

dapper crag
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I’m ready to go

chrome knot
chrome knot
red willow
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Whats up with no ghost stab on most top cut flutters recently

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Is icy wind 2 gud in dbls

next stump
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yeah to be honest you’re not shadow balling much in the format

jaunty tangle
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anyone know if tera normal orb callyrex shadow is good?

hallow nova
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Hey guys I want to get into competitive Pokemon and was wondering where a good place to start is

next stump
next stump
chrome knot
jaunty tangle
rustic mountain
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just had a game go to timer in cart for the 1st time in awhile, man fuck pollen puff amoongus, we got the w but i had to do like 6 bars worth of health

shadow wind
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@foggy lodge I think an ear piercing might hurt more than a tattoo

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Thinking about it

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Just got a tattoo and that jon did not hurt

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#ImAToughCookie

upper zealot
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lmao im so cooked

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i really want a shiny marked 0 speed clef for orlando but im ngl theres no way im gonna be able to find it in time

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unless i no life

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its such a cool mon lol

chrome knot
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it is so easy to get this

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set kitakami to night and jump in one of the ravines w/ a fairy sandwich

near crag
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Is not having hands in a miraidon team just throwing?

jaunty tangle
lofty tartan
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Some people can do piercings in crazy places but can't get a tattoo

shadow wind
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Cause you go over bony areas and it burns like you’re on fire

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But go over some flabby part with lots of skin and it’s chill

shadow wind
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Nah but in a “both might hurt less than I thought”

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Kinda way

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Cause tattoo I just got was no biggie

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And so maybe they just don’t hurt that bad

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And maybe piercings also don’t hurt as bad as I thought

dense latch
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how is this account real

molten oasis
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Wow what

solid frigate
dense latch
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james baek's worlds team is so good

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a friend and i have been playing a handful of games each with it and ended here

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i've missed out so much not wanting to play csr

rustic mountain
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wen u beat some1 top 5 on ladder: pepemostacho

dense latch
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but now i need a min atk calyrex if i ever wanna bring it to a local or the special event

dense latch
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still on csr zama?

rustic mountain
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atm yea

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so comfortable w/ it

bold geode
bold geode
dense latch
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lima special event

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like a 30 minute drive max

bold geode
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I mean far away as in how many days until the event

dense latch
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oh lmao

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may 24th

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which could still be reg i but idk

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but it’s going so well with this team i might look at some locals

bold geode
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If it is
Hit me up close to that time for Lima at least and I got one you can borrow

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Though tbh like
Idt having 0 IV Atk really matters for it LMAO

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So you can probably at least roll up to locals with a non 0 IV

dense latch
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yea i won’t stop going if i use my cir calyrex instead

bold geode
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Yeah
But yeah I have a 0 Atk IV Calyrex

dense latch
gentle cragBOT
bold geode
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Actually was my first ever Calyrex I got from the story
Literally got it first try without even trying or even knowing about IVs at the time

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Also np, I let folks borrow stuff all the time

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Actually my Calyrex is nicknamed OutKast cuz a friend of mine borrowed it and nicknamed it that LMFAO

dense latch
mighty stump
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Champions on March 25?

dense latch
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just a pax east demo

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the actual game is set to release sometime next month

mighty stump
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Ah

molten oasis
dense latch
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i'm just happy to use wire guy again

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my goat

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james baek made it really convenient to pick up the team

he made a team report + a 6 game showcase + an analysis of his stream games

bold geode
molten oasis
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Oh interesting

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Eleki being lowkey outclassed by flutter is sad tho

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I like eleki, cool Mon

dense latch
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it's a bit situational but it works well on this team

molten oasis
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Interesting

foggy lodge
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Csr speed ties deterrent

molten oasis
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Yeah cuz CSR speed ties suck

foggy lodge
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I like the role compression because it's basically flutter + bolt compressed into one mon

dense latch
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i avoid them altogether with or without eleki bc james had a bulky csr

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really fun to use it tanks a -1 facade from ursa after i tera dark

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and just living more hits in general is nice

foggy lodge
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Modest csr is so good

dense latch
molten oasis
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Bulky team

bold geode
dense latch
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one of my losses with the team was bc i forgot volc was bulkier and slower than im used to but we kept a good record anyways

molten oasis
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Kinda nice to have eleki for tornadus and ogre

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Like eleki isn’t taking spout but it’s decent damage into it

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Shifu too

foggy lodge
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Still modest csr is super good I was watching Torviv's games at worlds

dense latch
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i've led csr eleki into tornogre you can get a few ewebs off before it drops while keeping csr safe

foggy lodge
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Man that CSR + booster bolt combo is lowkey evil

molten oasis
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That’s nice

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Sounds super oppressive

foggy lodge
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Cuz like yeah your csr may be faster but its more frail and you just get pinned by tclap LOL

bold geode
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I'm going back to Incin Rilla fuck this

shadow wind
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It’s like the green goblin mask

foggy lodge
#

Undertale ost so good man

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When the 2012 video puts undertale music in the background while they rant about some random ass game

solid frigate
waxen dock
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lost like 30 elo to missing 3 bleakwind in like 3 turns and getting crit twice

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while i got 0 crits

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and now i lost 45 55 where i had the 55

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is that how you play oprimally?

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just to get your luck decreased

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and now i get 3 turns of sleep

shadow wind
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Son I’m cryne

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Bros using bleakwind storm then complaining about missing

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Either build a more consistent team or don’t complain brodie

waxen dock
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ykw what if hhp missed when it was 1v1 against incin and you were faster but low health?

shadow wind
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I know what I signed up for

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And there’s been games where I hit 1/5 Pblades

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They happen

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You’re using inconsistent moves then complaining about consistency

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You can’t have the reward with no risk

waxen dock
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well i cant have the reward but i do have the risk

shadow wind
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😭😭😭

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Absolutely no one is going to have any sympathy for you just letting you know

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It’s mons

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It’s luck based

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No matter how good someone plays the luckier player can always win

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So I wouldn’t stress over missing a couple bleakwinds on the ladder

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It’s an 80% accurate move

waxen dock