competitive_discussion

[dull ibex]

I was also thinking maybe I could use some form of speed control?

[mighty stump]

Just pointing something to be mindful; Not sure what could go on there for free

Cousl always consider a control element like solo dozo

@polar nest Your #rental_teams post will be removed for now due to not following posted guidelines. Please repost your rental with high-quality screenshots as outlines and inclusive of a breakdown of your team. Thanks

[gentle crag]

woodtofu has given 1 Gen Rep to agplays_

[dull ibex]

im gonna try tera steel on pult

I know that will probably bite me in the ass

[bold geode]

Eh worth a shot

[dull ibex]

it walls moonblast and hits flutter back

I want to try a tailwind setter in the final slot as well

my only probelm dropping farig is I don't do well into tr

[mighty stump]

Idk, the team seems okay on paper but I feel like Balance kinda walks it if they think for a moment and respect Giraffe. I think maybe Water Dengo unless im missing sth

[mighty stump]

Yeah but what is your specific Farig doing to stop TR in the first place

[dull ibex]

resetting

[bold geode]

Yeah balance is pretty big rn tbh

[mighty stump]

Theres not enough on the team utility wise aside from Follow Me NPlot

Once they force Tera on Dengo its even worse

Farig is a deadslot and not a guarantee even into TR imo

[bold geode]

Tofu y'know what I realized earlier
Before this rerun

Bolt Balance never won anything

[mighty stump]

Who won or what won Seattle btw

[bold geode]

Carson St Denis

[mighty stump]

What team

[bold geode]

He had a Gholdengo Regidrago team

[mighty stump]

What was 2nd plce

[bold geode]

Archaludon Rain

[mighty stump]

lmfao

Do we have a paste

[dull ibex]

I was using a regidrago team for a bit

[mighty stump]

If Red wants to play PaoPult + Dengo might as well draw inspo

[dull ibex]

Im going to play pult in champions as well

[leaden fox]

Still remember when I faced a full Regi team in the last GC 😅

[dull ibex]

learning how to pilot pult could help heaps

[bold geode]

First place

[mighty stump]

Unironally Screens-TWave Grimms

[bold geode]

And then second place

[dull ibex]

for my team?

[mighty stump]

Not the best suggestion

[bold geode]

There was a team that did well in Toronto with this
Actually had Hex Gholdengo

[mighty stump]

Doesn’t help Balance much but yeah

I just think PaoPult doesn’t have enough oomph

[bold geode]

It had Entei with Sacred Fire and Grimmsnarl with T Wave and the Gholdengo had Hex for the statuses

[mighty stump]

I think AV/Goggles Entei could also work but you’ll have overlap

But who cares

I think it just looks like you wanna play half balance half offens

[foggy lodge]

I didn't realize rockpon won

[bold geode]

Ngl Day 2 I lost to that and said y'know what I'm done

[bold geode]

Rockpon my goat

[foggy lodge]

Rockpon is super broken tbh it was obvious it was gonna pop off at some point

[dull ibex]

im open to replacing more of the team

[bold geode]

Love Rockpon

[mighty stump]

Well

Don’t take too much from me

[leaden fox]

I won against it myself 😅 Because I knew what I needed and what was the threats

[mighty stump]

I’m just using whatever my rusty brain is telling me

Monke probably knows better at the moment

[bold geode]

Tofu I wanted to ask
What you think about the 6 7 meme

[mighty stump]

Hate it but because I had colleagues ironically make fun of it, then it became unironic

[bold geode]

LOL

[dull ibex]

some for my group as well

[bold geode]

I literally do it just to piss people off

[mighty stump]

its funnier in Mandarin

六七

[bold geode]

I heard it's a slur in Cantonese

[mighty stump]

Not sure ablut that, I don’t know Canto

[foggy lodge]

One day I was at the dentist and some kid was doing 6 7 i felt like an uncle I thought this only existed for chronically online people

[mighty stump]

also I’m going to scold you for leaving that rental up for so long @bold geode

[bold geode]

But bro I love the people that foam at the mouth like "IT'S NOT FUNNY DUDE" like bro I bet your ass years ago was laughing at the Markiplier E meme

[mighty stump]

Dude I hear it in normalspeak

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/taiho-shichau-zo-teehee-anime-youre-under-arrest-ova-gif-21342147

[mighty stump]

Chronically online people are actually out there regulalry

Children included

[bold geode]

Bro my brain is so rotted that anytime I hear 6 7 I'm just like

[warm estuary]

Hello chat

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/what-beaver-huh-surprised-gif-7511937

[warm estuary]

How are y’all doing

[mighty stump]

I think I should just throw up a Laxlance team for Reg F and call it a day

[bold geode]

Fuck it we ball

[mighty stump]

Boltbalance but Snorlax

Tell me how I lose

[bold geode]

LMAO

Uh
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[dull ibex]

ok anyone got a set for entei LMAO

[bold geode]

So is Snorlax replacing Bolt or what is it replacing

[mighty stump]

Lemme just take my league team and remove CSR

[foggy lodge]

In chile 6.7 is a real exam grade

I have a lot of 6.7 marks

[mighty stump]

Sacred Fire/ESpeed/Stomping Tantrum/+1

[bold geode]

Is it passing or

[foggy lodge]

Yeah its passing

[leaden fox]

I swear, if we get a Assault Vest for physical defence, then there are gonna be even more threats around 😅

[foggy lodge]

We have a weird system don't ask me why we work with those numbers because I don't know

[dull ibex]

what tera

[foggy lodge]

2.0 is the minimal note and 7.0 is the maximum

[bold geode]

Imagine one day your parents are like "Son you're grounded until your grades are up to 6.7"

[mighty stump]

Normal, probably

[bold geode]

Yeah Normal
Maybe Grass

[dull ibex]

https://pokepast.es/465b9de19c17c4d3

[mighty stump]

Grass if no Goggles

[warm estuary]

Normal for espeed

[bold geode]

Anyways Tofu where doth the Snorlax go on the balance

[mighty stump]

uh

All I need is like

[bold geode]

My thing is like
Is it Incin Rilla CM Bolt still or

Cuz if so you can probably just slap that shit on and call it a day

[mighty stump]

Take this and replace CSR bro I’m done

Like

What am I missing

[bold geode]

With what an Incineroar or

There's a Bolt already bruh

[mighty stump]

Idrc it can be anything

Gholdengo

[foggy lodge]

Tofu

[mighty stump]

Lmfao

[bold geode]

Uuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhh

[foggy lodge]

What do you think of this team https://pokepast.es/81f5e0a976b452cc

[mighty stump]

Specs Dengo GH trick

[foggy lodge]

It got top 4 at EUIC

[bold geode]

Actually Gholdengo is mad CSR coded

[mighty stump]

Fire

[bold geode]

But yeah Gholdengo, Incineroar
Can probably even use a support Flutter

[warm estuary]

Flutter mane trust

[mighty stump]

That Urshifu is fye

its almost like my bulky shifu

[mighty stump]

Hell no support where

Damage

Sash Flutter + TWave

[bold geode]

Bulky Urshifu is a norm now

[warm estuary]

Chat I forgot

Who won Seattle i was sleeping

[bold geode]

Tofu Cicciot ran max Spdef Urshifu on a team with Ting Lu

[mighty stump]

It may be the norm now but its nth new

Wheres my fatshifu spread

[foggy lodge]

Gholdengo has 2 regional wins in reg F 2 man

[warm estuary]

K thanks

[gentle crag]

oio_314 has given 1 Gen Rep to dollarmonke

[foggy lodge]

People really thought dengo was a niche mon in reg F

Is this Regidrago's first win?

[dull ibex]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2026regf-2550223604 here you go dollar and tofu

[mighty stump]

I have Urshifu that lives TClap/Wild Charge/sth from FM

lmao

[foggy lodge]

Ah no it won Sydney too

[mighty stump]

From lie

[warm estuary]

Regidrago lowk underrated design wise

[mighty stump]

2023

(Urshifu-Rapid-Strike)
Ability: Unseen Fist
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 204 HP / 164 Atk / 140 SpD
Adamant Nature

Kek

[foggy lodge]

lol

[dull ibex]

tofu what are you doing rn?

[mighty stump]

In bed dusting off my mental cobwebs and relaxing

[bold geode]

Gholdengo is fucking broken

[dull ibex]

ah gotcha nvm then

[mighty stump]

Gholdengo golden run

[foggy lodge]

Good into psyspam and amoonguss

[mighty stump]

The humble fox

[foggy lodge]

The two biggest threats of the meta rn

Tofu did you see that IVs are supposedly gone

[mighty stump]

Ohnicely done

[dull ibex]

@bold geode I think i just lost to a freaking chargabug

[mighty stump]

Yeah

[bold geode]

Btw Max Wolfe placed second in the GC

[mighty stump]

Replaced by whatever new system but like I think we’ll adjust

[bold geode]

Some things never change

[foggy lodge]

what

With what

[dull ibex]

ty

[gentle crag]

redstonejesus has given 1 Gen Rep to woodtofu

[foggy lodge]

Almost two GCs won in this season man is farming

[bold geode]

If I'm correct an updated version of his EUIC team

[warm estuary]

Chargabug my goat

[foggy lodge]

Tera fire clam Pao gaming🔥

[bold geode]

Yeah there's people on Twitter making a big fuss
Oh no I can't use my 29 IV speed Wolfey's Incineroar

[bold geode]

I'm looking at a team report
He said the Pao wasn't right

[foggy lodge]

He changed the Pao set?

[mighty stump]

I think we just need to wait and see

[bold geode]

But yeah I think the IV removal only hurts like
Niche interactions involving speed tiers or other things

[mighty stump]

Did someone say Tera Fire ClearAm Pao

[bold geode]

Certain Beast Boost manipulations are off the table

[mighty stump]

Yeah but whats to say you can’t adjust the “IVs”

or whatever sytem replaces it

[foggy lodge]

its funny i like it

Wolfey used it at EUIC

[mighty stump]

One of all time favourite sets is ClearAm Tera Fire RM in Sun

[bold geode]

See my thing is like
99% of the time it's either you're 0 IV or max IV anyways so like

[mighty stump]

With Tera Blast

[foggy lodge]

Oh I used that too

[bold geode]

Either now you just go quiet nature and that's the new "min speed" or you just max IVs

[mighty stump]

Not like I don’t agree - most important thing is the Beast Boost stuff

[foggy lodge]

Ddance tera fire tera blast in sun

[mighty stump]

But I also have my 7 Spe IV Incin shit

or wtvr it was

oh it was Amoonguss

[bold geode]

Like bro the 0 Atk CSR wasn't living Foul Play anyways

[mighty stump]

Yeah but optimality

[mighty stump]

Fye

[foggy lodge]

Tbh I also see the no IVs as

A forced evolution of the meta or mechanics

[dull ibex]

this may be stupid

[foggy lodge]

I think people will just adjust to that

[dull ibex]

but do we want to replace ogerpon?

I was thinking with a bulkier redirection user

[bold geode]

Anyways bulky Urshifu
Good but I prefer Sash Ursh

[bold geode]

What team again

[mighty stump]

Either way

Adjust

Why complain

Won’t do anything anyways

[dull ibex]

https://pokepast.es/beb697e2995c9e77

[bold geode]

Real

Like you still gotta deal with the system

[mighty stump]

Relative calcs should stay the same anyways

and again, what if theyre just replacing IVs with something else

[dull ibex]

Fun fact even with evs and ivs changed

its the same numbers

like exact same numbers just streamlined

[mighty stump]

The most important thing

Is just being able to maintain the same MinMax stat range and hit every value in between

[bold geode]

The spreads need to be fixed low-key
I think the Ogerpon can be bulkier
I feel like you lack a bit of offense maybe without Ogerpon?

Actually funny enough Impish Ogerpon was a thing

[dull ibex]

this is old old old tech

[bold geode]

On the Harc Flutter stuff though so it may be team dependent

[dull ibex]

but is electabuzz still an okay pairing with pult?

or has that been powercrept out

[bold geode]

I feel like the only redirectors seeing play RN are Ogerpon and Amoonguss

[leaden fox]

I’m curious what position Ogerpon and Urshifu will have once Megas return? 🤔

[dull ibex]

moongus might be better here

[warm estuary]

Indeede

[bold geode]

How did I forget Indeedee

[dull ibex]

oh could indeedee be good here?

[bold geode]

Idt Indeedee works there though

[dull ibex]

awwww

[mighty stump]

The same; Ogerpon needs to retain Tera is the only caveat

[bold geode]

Indeedee would make you have to play around your own terrain with Incineroar and Entei E Speed

[mighty stump]

Honestly

[bold geode]

Low-key idt it needs it per se

[mighty stump]

Double prio Pao is goated

[bold geode]

It takes a hit from NOT having it but I feel like it can somewhat be reworked to work out

[mighty stump]

It’s not necessary, but you get less reason to run it

[bold geode]

Now TERAPAGOS on the other hand

[mighty stump]

Hearthflame is only good cause of the pressure it can hold

[bold geode]

That Mon might be dead

[foggy lodge]

I think follow me alone saves Ogerpon

[leaden fox]

Even if Ogerpon doesn’t Tera, still is a strong choice

[foggy lodge]

Atleast certain forms

Rockpon will stay pretty much the same without tera

[mighty stump]

The flexibility aspect is what you lose

[bold geode]

I think unironically Ogerpon Rock becomes the best probably without tera

[mighty stump]

Likely

[bold geode]

I think it could work, it's just reworking it but even then like
Technically it is still worse

[mighty stump]

I never said it won’t work, but certain forms will fall off, you will have less reason to run Ogerpon as a whole

[bold geode]

For sure

[foggy lodge]

Yeah its a nerf in the end

[mighty stump]

Rockpon only

[leaden fox]

I suspect that Megas and Teras will be first format in Champions

[mighty stump]

and tb

[bold geode]

You can't really slap Ogerpon on as easy

[foggy lodge]

Also please nerf unseen fist in champions

[mighty stump]

I value the choice to Tera Rock and get +1 Def too

[bold geode]

Rockpon is my favorite though I'm good

[mighty stump]

Make it half/quarter damage through protect

[bold geode]

Yeah losing Tera Rock and potentially that defense boost is a bit rough but like comparing it to like Hearth or Wellspring

[mighty stump]

Yeah

I’d honestly say

Grasspon gets a boost cause of the item hold

Lol

if no Tera

[foggy lodge]

Teal mask tera is also super good

The speed boost is goated

[mighty stump]

Offensive pressure Ogerpon >>

Imo

Tangential to Champions

Rockpon > Hearthflame > Grass > Water

Unless you like

Run Focus Energy/SD Waterpon

[dull ibex]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2026regf-2550236405

[foggy lodge]

True

[dull ibex]

this battle was nuts

[bold geode]

Yeah I think no tera it hurts that Wellspring got Water Absorb

[foggy lodge]

Focus energy is cool I think it turns cudgel into a secured crit

[mighty stump]

Hearthflame is special to me cause of how goated he is next to Lax

[mighty stump]

Yur

[foggy lodge]

It helps a lot into intimidate loops

[mighty stump]

Just watching my Opal League match before I took a break still makes me so happy

[foggy lodge]

What was that?

[mighty stump]

It was one of thsoe community sign up draft league things

This was in like

2024

Single restricted format

[ G1: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2173117728-gzy1ule4j7yesmob6ncicn6mndaiysdpw?p2
G2: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2173119869-b6bb12vzn6hqoni5wv6fb7emfxpzktmpw
G3: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2173122683-9zqxnzfwtubfh6lpiwgmp3vh0w8bm6epw ]

[bold geode]

Ah yes single restricted
The format Tofu tortured me with a Snorlax

And with CSR

[mighty stump]

lmfao

Hey man

Sleep N Fissure was 70%+ GXE on Bo3 OTS

[bold geode]

Then there was that fucking Curse set

[dull ibex]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2026regf-2550241497 so i won here but I think I played badly

[mighty stump]

HAHAHAHAHA

Anti-Zama Snorlax bro

[mighty stump]

idk was Klefki really the important target there

[dull ibex]

no probably not

fairies kinda scare me

[bold geode]

Actually chat
What were y'all's favorite teams this generation

[dull ibex]

as a whole for scarlet and violet?

[bold geode]

Yeah

[mighty stump]

I realise I never released the team

[foggy lodge]

Joseph Ugarte's Miraidon and Keanu's Zama teams

[mighty stump]

But yeah the lax team

[dull ibex]

my reg b tailwind hyper offense team

[foggy lodge]

https://pokepast.es/27b9fa93673eceb4

This team was so cool

[bold geode]

My favorite team was either my Reg I Zama CSR team or my Reg D Arcanine team

Cuz they just felt so fucking good to use

[dull ibex]

oh and reg i swordfish

swordfish has been fun enough

[bold geode]

Actually @mighty stump remember Stall

Or whatever it was called

[mighty stump]

oh how could I forget

My Tinkaton team

I did like swordfish

[mighty stump]

Whixh one

omg

[bold geode]

Oh yeah Tofu got featured on Cybertron's channel meanwhile I got my ass kicked in a video of his and it was uploaded on my bday

[mighty stump]

https://pokepast.es/bf3e8760f6f98890

@foggy lodge my max speed Kingambit team

[mighty stump]

HAHAHHA

[bold geode]

I played it so suboptimally and I realized after the video that I could've just brought Ogerpon and done big work into him

[mighty stump]

yk regular people have asked what my honby is and when I explain VGC i sound lik some bigwig even tho im some average joe

[bold geode]

The one in Reg D where you'd just stall mfers out with IDBP Corviknight

[foggy lodge]

Holy shit

Galvantula😭

[solid frigate]

tbf any regular people who isn't a pokemon fan would ask what the fuck is VGC so i get what you mean

[mighty stump]

There were better options than Galvantula but I wanted to use him

[mighty stump]

HAHA WAIT

https://tofu-snorlax.hatenablog.com/entry/criminallygood

[bold geode]

That team was fucking gas

[mighty stump]

Im so sad my Scream Tail team never performed the way I wanted it to

https://tofu-snorlax.hatenablog.com/entry/flawedgenjutsu2

[bold geode]

Bro all my teams this season haven't performed the way I wanted them to

[foggy lodge]

I never build teams so

But in champions I'm gonna go crazy

[bold geode]

@mighty stump wanna see the teams I used this season that revolved around me making one Mon work each format LMAO

[foggy lodge]

The first latam regional winning team will be made by me trust

[mighty stump]

Oh lord

[solid frigate]

hopefully the full list isn't shitass like it was in Serebii-

[foggy lodge]

Tofu look at this team https://pokepast.es/298bd499eb94c53f

[mighty stump]

I’m sort of stressing over the fact i can’t find my perfect team

[mighty stump]

bitching i love dual weather

A concept i never got to do was Koraidon/Kyogre lmao

[bold geode]

Hey it was Palafin in Reg H and Latias in Reg F it's not THAT bad

[dull ibex]

Are you going to run double primal when the time comes

[solid frigate]

And Solgaleo in Reg I

[mighty stump]

perfecto found it

[mighty stump]

who jnows

[solid frigate]

I mean Isnt Double Primals like viable in 2016

[foggy lodge]

Restricted formsts are gonna go crazy

[mighty stump]

Well heres to a new era with each other everyone

[foggy lodge]

Now we will most likely have all restricteds available in champions

[dull ibex]

And to a hopefully great competitive format

[solid frigate]

Pray to lord that we don’t have to play Xerneas with Tera

[bold geode]

https://pokepast.es/c81556fb8c260a18 - Sept

https://pokepast.es/99b5032e96f73d2f - Oct

https://pokepast.es/d9135080983f19c5 - Nov

https://pokepast.es/2f9c30f8585f37d9 - Jan

https://pokepast.es/53c0523f210c8c0f - Feb

[foggy lodge]

Xerneas with a defensive tera to stay longer

[mighty stump]

im gonna click Geomancy a second time

Well

[solid frigate]

Miraidon when +4 Xerneas:

[mighty stump]

It's been long enough

SO here's my best team

https://pokepast.es/d84bcb78d20a5b44

[bold geode]

Btw the hype for AV Ursaluna Bloodmoon was overrated
Dog shit set

[leaden fox]

Oh god; forgot Xerneas is able to come back lol

[mighty stump]

Vaccuum Wave tho

Iconic just to murder Pao

[foggy lodge]

Nah AV Blursa cool

[bold geode]

Yeah but everything else was just so bad

[foggy lodge]

Its just a fraud when the power gets higher

[mighty stump]

LOrb BM or CM Follw Me was my favouitre

[foggy lodge]

I used calm mind Blursa

[bold geode]

Then again I'm also used to Lorb damage so seeing Blood Moon do like 70% max to something was depressing

[mighty stump]

Relative context always matters i suppose

[bold geode]

Lorb CSR is the best set imo

[mighty stump]

I booted up my laptop which I haven't used for like a year+ for this

Lmao

Helping Hand Snorlax was goated

[bold geode]

Lol

I liked Lorb CSR the best cuz it felt like you had more freedom in choice between either setting up or clicking Astral Barrage

[foggy lodge]

https://pokepast.es/f39c4e1295be09ab

[bold geode]

Cuz the Life Orb gave you just that bit more damage

[foggy lodge]

None of this is original man I need to start building teams

[mighty stump]

Originality is overrated bro

[dull ibex]

im streaming in my personal discord if you want to watch tofu and monke

[mighty stump]

Slap an OG mon on an established team as long as it works its an original variant

[mighty stump]

I'm good, not in the mood for socialising actively.

Thanks tho

[dull ibex]

fair enough

[foggy lodge]

True

[bold geode]

Have to work unfortunately

[dull ibex]

ill likely be playing if you show up after work

[foggy lodge]

I don't even feel like I build bad teams I'm just super used to picking up someone else's team cuz they are usually more optimal than mines

Or I feel like that idk

[mighty stump]

I think the only thing if you're interested in furthering your teambuilding is recognising what actual makes the teams optimal

[foggy lodge]

Maybe my mind tricks me into thinking my teams are bad

[mighty stump]

That too

Just because something doesn't work doesn't mean the team is bad

Bad teams only exist if they have no logic behind them

[foggy lodge]

True

[dull ibex]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2026regf-2550256445 I like this game alot

[mighty stump]

I think just flexing your brain to think in how things work - like writing notes and actively thinking about it - really opens up your horizons

[foggy lodge]

I saved Monke's teams with my ideas

[mighty stump]

But do what works best for you

[bold geode]

I honestly have been focusing more on my teams but usually I just focus on my play and give myself general tools

[mighty stump]

I think most important thing is like

FIrst make it exist - then make it good

[bold geode]

True, I derail so much LOL

My problem is always finding the 6th

[foggy lodge]

I saved that Palafin's life with that Ape set

[mighty stump]

I think finding the 6th is the easiest thing to do

Just start putting random shit in there

[bold geode]

My problem is like I have a 6th and I play
Then I find one mon doesn't work and it's like "oh hey I need the 6th to do all these very specific things"

[mighty stump]

Honestly

The simplest answer is usually the most likely one

Like if something fits the bil

Even if it soudns stupid as fuck

Just run it

[bold geode]

Real

[foggy lodge]

Sometimes you lose to Weezing and need to slap ability shield Tornadus

[bold geode]

That AV Ape I made in that January paste I showed you was dogshit though don't look at that

[bold geode]

Didn't I have this idea once and you said no

[mighty stump]

I am excited for Gen 10

Indoneisa represent

Even though my country generally sucks

[foggy lodge]

The game looks super cool

I hope we get more every once in a while cuz the wait till 2027 can get long

[mighty stump]

I really am so excited to see what the evols look like

Also

We need more Snake/Turtle Pokemon

[foggy lodge]

Terapagos!!!

We need snakes too

I hope the waves legendary is a sea serpent man

That would be so cool

[bold geode]

Can't wait to go to the 7th gym in Jakarta and be stuck in traffic cuz the Snorlax slept on the road again

[mighty stump]

My god look

[mighty stump]

I'd rather be the Elite Four gatekeeper with Snorlax blocking the league

Beat my Lax and you can enter the league

[mighty stump]

MORE

I want more Carracosta

He needs to come back

He sucks competitively and will never be good but pls

[foggy lodge]

holy shit

[mighty stump]

Like what is this god awful statline

[foggy lodge]

People talk about gen 2 and 3 stats

Why did I never see Carracosta's stats

Swift swim with 32 speed😭

Did you feel powerful when you outsped Amoonguss in tailwind

[mighty stump]

Lmfao

[foggy lodge]

Wait that's a goggles flutter LOL

[mighty stump]

only to do negative damage

base 108

Swift Swim + Shell Smash tho

Only to still do negative damage

Sturdy Shell Smash may be the only niche but like pls it's so much work

[foggy lodge]

I saw shell smash Blastoise one time

Weakest ice beam ever

[solid frigate]

I legit forgot this mon even existed

[solid frigate]

And it doesn’t even have Body press to justify the Defense stat

[mighty stump]

God awful moveset

[bold geode]

LMAO
"You have challenged Bouncer Tofu"

[dull ibex]

do we want to replace gholdengo here

the double weakness is a little oof

[bold geode]

@mighty stump actually y'know what I can't wait for
Apparently it's speculated that Palafin will be in Champs
I can't wait for my goat to lose to a starfish

[solid frigate]

That actually doesn’t sound bad lol

[mighty stump]

Do we have a list yet

[mighty stump]

Copping

[bold geode]

Um hold up
Idk how confirmed it is
Basically they've been basing it off mons they see in parts of the Japanese/Chinese trailers

[mighty stump]

Ahhh

[bold geode]

https://www.serebii.net/pokemonchampions/pokemon.shtml
Also its incomplete
There MIGHT be some megas missing

But if this is true, hell Archaludon Rain is gonna be in the game

[dull ibex]

SAMUROTT MY GOAT

[leaden fox]

So many Megas I want to use again 😅

I remember getting no losses with my Mega Beedrill team in the first format of ORAS 😂

But for the life of me; I don’t remember the team nor how I managed that

[dull ibex]

snorlax is my pve goat now

[bold geode]

It's funny
If Archaludon Rain is in the game then Mega Swampert becomes viable

[leaden fox]

Yep; Mega Swampert will be a pain to deal with if using Tailwind Drizzle Pelipper

[bold geode]

Yeah
You get a good Swift Swim Pokemon for Rain teams that can also act as your mirror breaker

[dull ibex]

wait is mega swampert gonna be good?

[bold geode]

Maybe
Though it depends on if Archaludon is allowed

[leaden fox]

Imagine if Mega Swampert has Trailblaze for mirror 😂

[bold geode]

Actually maybe it's just good for Rain in general but like

Honestly for Rain I'd just use a Steel type mega if Archaludon wasn't around
Like Scizor or Metagross

Actually wait

[leaden fox]

Also unlike Megas during Gen6 and Gen7; we have “active speed application”

[bold geode]

@foggy lodge do you think that the removal of IVs makes anything regarding mirrors different

[leaden fox]

So Tailwind and Swfit Swim are instant

[bold geode]

Metagross is gonna be fuckin disgusting

[dull ibex]

itsn ot nay different hen having perecte ivs

its not any different then having perfect ivs

[bold geode]

Yeah idt it matters too much cuz basically like

Honestly thinking about it the one thing that affects many mirrors the most is speed tiers

And you have that with EVs anyways

[leaden fox]

I somehow expect Sun and Rain teams to be good as usual; maybe even Sand and Snow teams too

Makes you wonder what the new Megas are gonna be like overall

I mean; we only know three of them with their abilities

[bold geode]

Sun is crazy strong

You got Mega Zard Y

[leaden fox]

Yep; exactly the mon I plan to use lol

Though need to figure out the best moveset for it first; especially considering how much has changed since USUM

[bold geode]

I feel like Rain will be good too mainly just as a counter to Sun but it'll be harder for Rain players cuz they have to play around the mega

[leaden fox]

True true

[bold geode]

I feel like you can run Weather Ball on Zard Y LOL

[leaden fox]

You ain’t wrong

Likely will run a certain set; but will have to be sure of it first

Plus may use Whimsicott in case of Rain Setter situations

[bold geode]

I feel like Snow is meh with Sun being so damn strong plus there's not that many good Snow setters tbh

And depending on how dominant Sun and Rain are, Sand might be good

[leaden fox]

Mega Ttar takes some advantage of it

[bold geode]

Imo at least if it's like Gen 9 Reg H in a way, Sand could possibly be good as an anti weather

[leaden fox]

We’ll see in due time

[bold geode]

Only issue is also if that list is correct, then Sun teams have 2 megas at all times technically cuz why are you telling me that Ursaluna might be in the game

[leaden fox]

Already thinking about what teams to build atm; but once we know the format overall, will be easier

[foggy lodge]

And as always

Tyranitar will be the anti weather

https://tenor.com/view/larvitar-happy-tyrannatar-pokemon-baby-gif-8364365

[bold geode]

Yeah Sand isn't used to abuse like Sun or Rain
It just stops the abusers

Cuz what do they got
Sun has Zard Y and maybe Torkoal
Snow would be A9 or maybe Abomasnow

Rain most likely is Pelipper

Yeah you do good into all the weather setters especially with Sand up

[foggy lodge]

Make it Politoed

Send Pelipper to the shadow realm

Atleast for a bit I want to use Politoed

[bold geode]

Eh even Politoed doesn't do that great into it

[foggy lodge]

Dudd

7/8 top 8 teams from Seattle have Urshifu water

And people told me reg G was worse than reg F cuz Urshifu was more dominant💀

[bold geode]

Like thing is TTar
You can hit it for SE with all the weather setters except for maybe Zard Y but problem is TTar just is a fucking monster

[foggy lodge]

Swampert will be the rain mon

[foggy lodge]

Now it gets HHP

[bold geode]

Didn't the list have Basculegion

[foggy lodge]

And 70 speed with swift swim isn't that bad

[bold geode]

Eh I'd still rather use Swampert

[foggy lodge]

Maybe but it doesn't mean its allowed

[bold geode]

Still hate Basculegion

[foggy lodge]

(I still think Basculegion is better than M-Swamp)

[bold geode]

Probably is

[bold geode]

Thing is Mega Swampert doesn't have to wait for two Pokemon to die

[foggy lodge]

It's less bulky and has less attack

But ghost type on a swift swim mon??

With last respects with swift swim??

[bold geode]

That's honestly the problem I have with Basculegion

You kinda really play it for Last Respects

[foggy lodge]

Kinda

Idk I think Basculegion is like

[bold geode]

Actually if Archaludon is allowed Mega Swampert might be better

[foggy lodge]

It needs to work on certain comps in specific but when you make it work its so good

I need to study the good mons from the past

[bold geode]

If Archaludon is allowed, Mega Swampert gives you a Rain mon to help with Rain

[dull ibex]

maybe pult is a bit too weak?

[foggy lodge]

I honestly think a lot of the past mons can work again specially in champions considering that the first format looks like it will be a reminiscent of the past

WAIT DUDE POLITOED MAY BE REAL

CUZ IT HAS HAZE

[bold geode]

Yeah isn't DozoGiri in the game

[foggy lodge]

Yeah

It all depends on what mons will be allowed at the time

[bold geode]

Will Incin Amoonguss be in the game hmmm

Honestly what would you rather deal with first
Incin Amoonguss or Incin Rilla

[foggy lodge]

Dude game freak really thought "hey look Incin has a lot of usage! They must love Incineroar and they will be super sad if Incineroar is not in the game we should add it to the first regulation!"

[dull ibex]

incin is confirmed

[rustic mountain]

theyll b in the game but not likely off rip

[foggy lodge]

I hope not

[bold geode]

Honestly I think Incineroar off rip is a good thing

[dull ibex]

I doubt they show mons that aren't in the game off rip

[rustic mountain]

as some1 who loves incin its not

[foggy lodge]

no it's not a good thing

[bold geode]

My thing with it is like
If it's not that means there's potentially more of a chance you have a format where you might have to choose more on what megas you just lose to

[rustic mountain]

they are showcasing gameplay (footage not final btw) for champions overall, they arent simply showing mons thatll b there from the jump. thats like saying tera was in the first trailer surely itll b in the game from jump and we have been confirmed thats not the case (first format will b megas)

[bold geode]

Like I think it'd be better to have some sort of glue

[foggy lodge]

Why the Bluey game goated

My nephew is watching a gameplay of it on the TV why does it look fun LMAO

[rustic mountain]

i think giving different mons a chance to shine would b cool and having somethin like incin who is fantastic role compression means itll b a lot of teams that just have it; glue mons would still exist ur just giving way for maybe something like scrafty to actually have a place where it otherwise wouldnt

incins nice for the higher lvl formats cuz it gives u less slots to committ to wat u need, whereas somethin like scrafty almost becomes unuseable cuz of its far worse defensive typing

[foggy lodge]

Incin just leaves too many mons unemployed not only the ones it outclass but also the ones that instalose to it have a way harder time to shine

[bold geode]

I mean yeah that would be nice I agree but also like
Low-key I'd rather be like "ok maybe I lose to 1-2 megas" instead of 3-4 of em

[foggy lodge]

Like I get that Incin gives balance to the game but considering we don't even know the abilities and how good a lot of megas are actually

Maybe the format isn't even that oppresive to need all this good mons like Incin Rilla and instead it goes the other way and its Incin and Rilla and all the others ones who are oppresive xd

[bold geode]

Like that's my thing
Like on one end yeah I'd like for mons to shine

But at the same time I don't want it to potentially be a complete mess

[rustic mountain]

dozo off rip w/o rilla incin sucks if that happens

but there will b other counterplay

[bold geode]

Idk I mean I know I'm not winning cuz people are tired of Incineroar but hey y'know
That's just me

Cuz also I feel like
If they add Incineroar people will complain but if they don't and the format becomes a mess people will also complain cuz people always complain

[rustic mountain]

ofc

[foggy lodge]

Incin is not fixing formats a lot of the time

[rustic mountain]

i think the bigger issue is champions as a whole vs what mons will and wont be allowed

[solid frigate]

Rather a necessary Evil than the format is fucking clusterfuck

[rustic mountain]

i think 1 mon not being allowed wouldnt make a format a mess

[foggy lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/under-new-management-more-like-under-new-management-megamind-megamind-meme-jokez-da-joke-gif-19867663

This is Incin

[solid frigate]

Also they put Ursaluna in day 1 of Champions (at least in serebii)

Why would they fucking do that-

[rustic mountain]

idk

[solid frigate]

Ursaluna before Amoonguss and Rillaboom is kinda nuts

[rustic mountain]

well we arent sure exactly what mons will b allowed

even serebii could b wrong

they r goin off trailer stuff but that doesnt 100% mean itll b there first format

[solid frigate]

That would make sense

Cuz Archaludon was listed in the trailers but no sign of the two rain setters that Isnt Kyogre

[foggy lodge]

I don't get what that has to do but okay

[rustic mountain]

yea they could always just have either in the game off rip but didnt show it

id imagine theres a lot of mons not shown thatll b there from the start

id just expect less mon availability on launch

[bold geode]

Yeah
My main thing was like
It's a Mon that can potentially help maybe hold some loose ends better so like how loose do things get y'know

[rustic mountain]

i get it but if its 1 mon standing b/w that and a format being a mess i think they gta rethink mon balance

nd i dont think incin is standing in the way of that for a regional dex format

[foggy lodge]

champions also has potential for balance patches

[bold geode]

Yeah like it's not fixing it completely
Like your college loan debt ain't being paid off but the Pokemon is at least a 100 bucks you happen to find

It doesn't completely fix but it helps

[rustic mountain]

we dont even know the format tho for it to fix, incins just a good mon so itll do well in just about any format. my main point is like, we shouldnt need an incin or other strong glue pieces every format to be able to hold it together. they should do better at puttin formats in place that have the necessary tools available already within them. very few formats are mu roulette or chaotic so its not like they drop the ball often

[molten oasis]

The format evolves and adapts

[foggy lodge]

^

[molten oasis]

We got through reg a-e without incin

We saw lots of Harc, which was sick

[rustic mountain]

right and reg arc and even gyrados

[molten oasis]

Yeah

Like, the format isn’t doomed because we don’t have the best glue

Megas are strong but they’re megas and we’ll figure out how to beat them, it’s how the game is

[bold geode]

So what you're saying is trust TPCi to make a perfect format

[rustic mountain]

hell no

[molten oasis]

That’ll never happen

[bold geode]

What it sounds like

[molten oasis]

A Perfect format isn’t real

[foggy lodge]

Perfect format implies atleast every fully evolved mon is somewhat viable

[rustic mountain]

im just generally saying since ive played, there really hasnt been many instances where a format divulges into being a shitshow. id say series 6 in swsh and reg g in sv mainly come to mind

[foggy lodge]

nooo reg g was cool

What was series 6 no dynamax?

[rustic mountain]

reg g was mu roulette

[molten oasis]

No Tera format!

[rustic mountain]

series 6 had a banlist of the top 10 mons i think or 15

[molten oasis]

And yeah it was a mu roulette if you paired into the wrong restricted the game got 10x harder

[rustic mountain]

sure u could patch a cppl bad mus but not w/o its tradeoffs

[bold geode]

That's low-key why I'm making the argument for Incineroar

[craggy dagger]

dlc only…
but specifically only the pokemon found in indigo disk..

[molten oasis]

Incin Archaludon meta

And bolt

[craggy dagger]

bolt isn’t catchable in the indigo disk area…

[rustic mountain]

1 mon should never be able to tip the scales like that, reg gs issue was 1 restricted meant all ur eggs were in that 1 basket so to speak so if u pulled into a restricted that wasnt favorable, the difficulty level arises much more then it should (bad mus will always exist)

[molten oasis]

Dude you could just run incin bolt rilla lol

[craggy dagger]

i meant like
specifically the ones found in the terrarium or smth

[molten oasis]

I see

[molten oasis]

Reg I could feel like that too sometimes I think

[craggy dagger]

idk tho
it would still be incin archaludon..

[molten oasis]

True

[rustic mountain]

nah double restricted makes it so u have another broken piece to balance out the others deficiencies (if ur being optimal). ull run into like 1 or 2 bad mus which is quite normal for a good team

[sudden remnant]

thoughts?

[rustic mountain]

reg g was like potentially 3-4 and they are all 80-20, 90-10 instead of 60-40

treecko picked its a great list

[sudden remnant]

i like blaziken but i like sceptile more

[foggy lodge]

True

In reg G i saw the most like mons to patch up MUs

Heatran on Pagos for the Zama and Korai MU, Gothitelle Scream Tail on Korai for CIR, ability shield tornadus for Korai Weezing

And even with that you had to trade other MUs

[sudden remnant]

does scream tail do anything in reg I besides perish song and struggle (encore disable combo) bot?

[molten oasis]

Fair enough

[sudden remnant]

we agree on 6 of them 🔥

[foggy lodge]

Scream Tail doesn't do anything outside of encore disable in any format xd

Its her whole job

[sudden remnant]

perish song crying in a corner

[foggy lodge]

Perish song is just slotted alongside that combo

[solid frigate]

I think I never done that (also I’m lazy so I’m not doing the editing part)

Kanto:Squirtle
Johto:Chikorita
hoenn:Treecko
Sinnoh: Piplup
Unova: Tepig(also starter in PLZA)
Kalos:Froakie
alola:Rowlet(also starter in PLA)
Galar:Sobble
Paldea:Quaxly
gen 10:Pombon

[sudden remnant]

so its sets look like encore disable perish song protect/playrough?

[foggy lodge]

Yeah

Its always protect tho

[sudden remnant]

for the legends games its cyndaquil and chikorita

[foggy lodge]

You can't not run protect on it

[sudden remnant]

i mean if youre making everyone struggle anyways….

[foggy lodge]

No

[sudden remnant]

could a pokemon ever struggle sideways into its partner? i doubt it but it doesnt sound entirely unreasonable

[foggy lodge]

It can't

Cuz struggle doesn't let you pick a target

[sudden remnant]

i mean like auto select your partner

like haus zmove with oceanic opereta in the sm games cuz sparkling aria targets all other mons on the field in that double battle with him

[leaden fox]

If I remember correctly, mine was: Charmader, Cyndaquil, Treecko, Chimchar, Snivy, Froakie, Rowlet, Scorbunny, Sprigatito 😅 Still on the fence of which gen10 starter I want

[sudden remnant]

what about the legends game?

[dull ibex]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2026regf-2550354839

[sudden remnant]

hm i wonder which player is you lmao

[leaden fox]

Cyndaquil for PLA and Chikorita for PLZA

[foggy lodge]

@bold geode I told you Carson's Ogerpon was adamant

[bold geode]

Paste drop?

[bold geode]

Did he drop a paste?

[foggy lodge]

#competitive_news

[sudden remnant]

😝

[bold geode]

How the fuck did Cary

Ok that's how

[warm estuary]

Peak

[sudden remnant]

i picked leafgreen cuz ninetales

i don’t typically pick charmander but i want suicune sooooooo charmander it is

WOOOOO MY GOAT

[sudden remnant]

my coworker never played colloseum

exiled

[shadow wind]

I just noticed all paradox mons are dual types

Like I kinda knew they were dual types before but I didn't really realize that all of them have 2 types

[foggy lodge]

Also none of them are normal

Literally none of them is a normal type

[molten oasis]

Paradox aren’t normal

[shadow wind]

Bars

[sudden remnant]

well normal types share a trait that the paradox mons do not fit

[shadow wind]

Reg I

This guy probably thinks he's the goat too

[molten oasis]

I hate that shit

[shadow wind]

Me too

[left bobcat]

For a second I thought that was Tera rock lol

[molten oasis]

I think seeing Tera ground Tera blast as a miraidon player is the worst feeing ever

It’s just like “okay well I lose” lmao

[left bobcat]

DRACO

PEW PEW PEW

[shadow wind]

Volt switch first Draco second

But they just stop the volt switch

And you can't just protect turn 1 against CSR

Utlimate MU test right now

[molten oasis]

Good luck boss

[shadow wind]

Unfortunately they're 1300...

[molten oasis]

Damn

[cunning apex]

what is the best yveltal moveset (for a noob)

[molten oasis]

uhhhhh

[shadow wind]

Depends on the 18 trillion things

[cunning apex]

wat

[molten oasis]

Sucker punch oblivion wing, some other dark move or utility move and protect or I guess snarl and another attack if you go av

[cunning apex]

ok thx : D

[gentle crag]

duolingo0589 has given 1 Gen Rep to drayagedrago

[molten oasis]

Yo even with no invest Yveltal snarl would hit hard huh

[shadow wind]

Depends on the meta the format the team

[molten oasis]

It’s still off 131 base lol

You outspeed shifu too, man Yveltal would have been great for sv

however there’s the deer in the room

[shadow wind]

So even though they were 1300

I still lost

Tera normal CIR really fried me

[cunning apex]

it can learn sucker punch in z a?

[molten oasis]

OH FOR ZA

[cunning apex]

lol

[molten oasis]

Sucker punch isn’t a thing in ZA?

[cunning apex]

due to the fact that he looks sick I am adding him to my team (the inner child in me)

[cunning apex]

wait it is?

[molten oasis]

I guess not

Uhm, foul play or knock off, whah do you mean you don’t get crunch

Oblivion wing is special?

[dense latch]

yea

[molten oasis]

[cunning apex]

lol

[dense latch]

the animation is a big ass beam of death

[cunning apex]

how about heat wave?

[molten oasis]

Isn’t physical Yveltal normal or did they run both physical and special?

[dense latch]

both

[molten oasis]

Ah alr

[dense latch]

best placing yveltal last time it was legal was serious nature

[molten oasis]

That snarl would hurt

[molten oasis]

Decent coverage I don’t see why not

[cunning apex]

[molten oasis]

Yk I guess I can see why it didn’t get crunch

Beak

[cunning apex]

yk I just realized this the more marketable and plushiable the pokemon is the stronger it is

[molten oasis]

No brave bird???

https://tenor.com/view/green-alien-cat-green-alien-cat-meme-cat-rage-meme-angry-alien-cat-gif-16978295465898295971

[dense latch]

it ran av snarl foul play sucker oblivion wing

[molten oasis]

Like the movepool is overall good but like

[cunning apex]

noooooooooooo I cant have him run into a literal steel wall

[cunning apex]

just not what he needs?

[molten oasis]

You think the GIANT DEATH BIRD would get brave bird but no lol

[cunning apex]

good point

[cunning apex]

ok thx for the help on this ima use him now : D

[gentle crag]

duolingo0589 has given 1 Gen Rep to drayagedrago

[cunning apex]

one more thing what item?

[sudden remnant]

yall have you seen how horrifying its crawl animation is

https://tenor.com/view/yveltal-pokemon-legends-za-pokemon-legends-za-legendary-pokemon-gif-13903683245934492400

[cunning apex]

HOW DO I GET IT TO USE THAT

[sudden remnant]

walk around with it

[cunning apex]

[sudden remnant]

i was horrified when i was fighting it cuz why you moving like that 😨

[sudden remnant]

what did you think it was for yveltal isnt even in SV

(thank god cuz that would mean xerneas would be here)

[molten oasis]

Fair enough

[sudden remnant]

thank arceus xerneas wasnt traumatizing another generation of vgc players

[next stump]

it's only traumatized oldheads

it hasn't been good since before COVID

[sudden remnant]

exactly cuz its not in sv to traumatize new gens

[sudden remnant]

well with dynamax and whatnot and King Von Zacian…..

now zacian isnt so king von anymore

[molten oasis]

Xerneas with Tera would have been disgusting

Probably

[dense latch]

it was pretty good the one format where dmax was banned during swsh

zacian did help keep it in check tho

[sudden remnant]

good dog

[dense latch]

but you could play around the dog

i used support volc to wall it

[sudden remnant]

so you were one of the xerneas propaganda traumatizers

i see

[dense latch]

i played cir more though iirc

i wasn't that bad

[sudden remnant]

[molten oasis]

Xerneas gets Hearthflame now

Next to pdon

[lofty tartan]

He's not the bravest bird. Just a death bird.

[molten oasis]

Valid

[lofty tartan]

Talonflame and Corviknight are the bravest birds.

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/talonflame-gaming-talonflame-gif-23229074

Tbf Yveltal gets obivion wing

[molten oasis]

Really solid move

[lofty tartan]

Yeah it's pretty insane

[molten oasis]

Flying move too so you hit shifus and ogerpon

[shadow wind]

This game is really good

[sudden remnant]

2 crit edrifts in a row is insane

what if its scope lens mirai

[shadow wind]

It was specs

[sudden remnant]

finally made it to the department store

(this is Lets Go)

[sudden remnant]

okay it does get shadow ball just not in gen 7

WHAT THE FUCK😭

raichu also cant learn play rough in this game

i officially hate lets go

[shadow wind]

Cinema?

[sudden remnant]

the fuck? 😭

tera dragon tera blast kyogre, interesting

[shadow wind]

Ice beam is like 12x better

[sudden remnant]

yeah why not tera ice ice beam

[shadow wind]

Ice doesn't resist electric and grass

[sudden remnant]

but it makes rico go kaboom

[river zealot]

yo anyone here wanna battle in pokemon sv

[sudden remnant]

people do battle challenges in sv instead of showdown?

[river zealot]

Lwk i do

[sudden remnant]

you alone on that one gang

[river zealot]

damn

[sudden remnant]

that is not what bro used to say

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-doakes-curious-suspicious-questioning-gif-14390669560130901665

[pliant pine]

Visionary

[mighty stump]

I’ve never seen a blind visionary before

[left bobcat]

Dance water dance

[sudden remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-blastoise-dancing-dance-raining-gif-16507184

[shadow wind]

😭

"You better not run into me again" type beat

[sudden remnant]

What are you running scarf ice punch on

????

[shadow wind]

Scarf Miraidon
Ice punch Iron hands

[sudden remnant]

ah…..

[shadow wind]

Which I think means he confirmed that he's scarfed Kyogre

Sorry did I just miss 2/4 of my snarls and my opponent gets 2 moonblast spatk drops???

Found my terapagos mu plan

W board state?

Holy cinema

First time I've crit today

[dull ibex]

im not sold on pao on this team

[shadow wind]

What's the team?

[dull ibex]

https://pokepast.es/770437785ea1df2b

[shadow wind]

Goggles entei?

[foggy lodge]

Why the hell are you hasty nature Pult

[shadow wind]

Bro got exposed for clicking suggested set

It's because tera blast is special !

[foggy lodge]

Also 4 def on Pao instead of spd

[dull ibex]

Holy shit my spreads are wrong LMAOOOOO

[foggy lodge]

Because with 4 def you always live surging strikes

[dull ibex]

Yeah that's what I do tbh

[dull ibex]

It was because I didn't want to Calc for av TBH

And band is taken

Anyways I'll fix the spreads

Could I get away replacing chien pao for a tailwind setter

[foggy lodge]

I hope champions gets this costumes dude

They went super hard for absolutely no reason

[shadow wind]

Ok why does ice punch hands actually cook

This guy is awesome

[foggy lodge]

What move did you drop?

Wild charge?

[shadow wind]

50/50 of doom and despair 😭

I dropped low kick

Bro did exactly his job

[rustic mountain]

its still a format that can be enjoyed as u and others did seem to but i think the flaws are still valid and exist

[shadow wind]

Yippee !

On hands if I'm running ice punch what do I replace?

Finding myself wanting to have low kick a lot

[rustic mountain]

charge

[shadow wind]

Makes sense

[rustic mountain]

u hav electric coverage already

slam for the fairy types, kick for heavy stuff, punch ig for ground types

[shadow wind]

Ice punch is great for amoonguss as well

[rustic mountain]

seems ok for shroom

wat do u do 50-60% w/ the e terrain boost if its in atk

[shadow wind]

156+ Atk Quark Drive Iron Hands Ice Punch vs. 244 HP / 156+ Def Amoonguss: 122-144 (55.4 - 65.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Kills with a psychic double up

[rustic mountain]

me being right on the money

[shadow wind]

Bros the goat

[rustic mountain]

lmao

i forget have u done whims b4

[shadow wind]

A little bit

It seemed perfect

But then 3 ice weaks

[dull ibex]

Im ditching the pult team for now

[shadow wind]

I am CIR fodder the team 😔

But I'm pretty hyped over getting another team of the week

[rustic mountain]

yea

[shadow wind]

Average Groudon team to be fair

Man I just lost a game cause I dc'd

That hurts more than any crit

[sudden remnant]

have i mentioned i do not like lets go

[shadow wind]

Lets go was good

I actually really enjoyed lets go and wish they made further gens with it

I remember always seeing Lets go Johto "leaks" and being super pumped to experience those generations

Unfortunately they weren't real

[sudden remnant]

i dont like the moves they took away from some of these mons

[shadow wind]

Groudon actually just missed 4/6 pblades

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/green-alien-cat-green-alien-cat-meme-cat-rage-meme-angry-alien-cat-gif-16978295465898295971

[sudden remnant]

rip in chat

[shadow wind]

All on Incin and Miraidons

[sudden remnant]

LMAO

[shadow wind]

Thanks goat

Not like I needed to hit either of those guys

[sudden remnant]

nah groudon knew you got that without his help

[shadow wind]

Unfortunately they got 4 draco hits in a row

[sudden remnant]

💀

[shadow wind]

So lowkey my bad

[sudden remnant]

this snorlax bro

its spamming rest 🫩

[shadow wind]

I've never missed more moves in a day

I think it's Volc's fault

Wisp and Overheat

I'm just asking to miss

[foggy lodge]

Yeah I can't deny it had problems

[sudden remnant]

is this about reg I or F

[rustic mountain]

[shadow wind]

It was

On my life it was fun

[rustic mountain]

for 1 day then i beat it

nd then it sucked

[sudden remnant]

i wish ninetales got shadow ball in this game

[shadow wind]

The megas were cool and so were the master trainers

Maybe I need to retire

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2026regi-2550664388-ichv8tque5jrx46assq5l39bq6iuj3tpw

Worst game ever played ever

[dull ibex]

yeah i am learning carson's team instead of building my own

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2026regf-2550667192-2kngm0atcp9htsbhmcpq443r9a49dibpw

regidrago didn't get the sweep i wanted but apparently urshifu is just bonkers

[wispy bison]

Hello, is there an easy way to get gold bottle caps? Thank you for your help.

[shadow wind]

Heck is a gold badge

[sudden remnant]

to get what?

[wispy bison]

Hmm, the item used to train Pokémon IVs.

[sudden remnant]

you mean gold bottle caps?

[wispy bison]

Yes, ha ha ha, I'm from Costa Rica, I did a direct translation, sorry.

[foggy lodge]

You can buy them I think

At the delibird shops in the central city

[sudden remnant]

in the dlc from the school store too i think

[wispy bison]

I know that the silver ones can be bought, but the gold ones are the ones I can't find.

[sudden remnant]

just use silver ones

not ever stat needs to be max

[foggy lodge]

Oh nvm you can't buy them

https://game8.co/games/Pokemon-Scarlet-Violet/archives/397851

Maybe this helps tho you can just use regular bottle caps

[shadow wind]

I genuinely just fought the worst team of all time

Hazard spam + whirlwind ting lu

Then scarf CSR because why not

[wispy bison]

Oh, I see. Thank you very much for your help.

[gentle crag]

.steven1030 has given 1 Gen Rep to naganohara_vexae

[shadow wind]

Grimmsnarl gotta be top 2 annoying mons in Reg I and he ain't 2nd

Bro sees 1 mon that isn't para immune

Now you're para'd

Man I want 5 moves on my volc

[sudden remnant]

every prankster mon ever

[dull ibex]

carson plays pretty fast

faster then most i've watched

[shadow wind]

Well that was really hard

I think I dropped into the 1300s at some point

https://pokepast.es/8666129f2e6b25bd

This team is like every Groudon Miraidon teams I've ever made jumbled into one

Also I think this sums up every Miraidon ditto ever

I will say that ice punch hands is top 10 mons all time

[brisk crater]

Pokemon champions is lowk looking kinda concerning

[shadow wind]

Yes

[rustic mountain]

it is, ppl trynna justify it is certainly something

[molten oasis]

It’s a game of all time

[shadow wind]

Not even yet

[rustic mountain]

still hoping to be proven wrong but its getting worse every time something related to it is released

[shadow wind]

Yeah like I hope it's awesome

But odds are it's going to be terrible

[molten oasis]

And it’ll be the home of vgc