#competitive_discussion
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Every day, left-handed people draw attention away from things like this.
Don't let them have it.
Real
Just like British people
can we talk about french people for a second
I'm from Canada so I unfortunately know they're real
We learn fake french in schools
that doesnt convince me the french are real
Québecois?
Nah I'm western
Pretty much as north western that I can get without being in BC or a territory
Try not to doxx yourself challenge level impossible
lmao
i dont even know what BC means so you’re safe from me
i never paid attention in geography
shit was the most boring excuse for school to waste another hour of my day then they already wasted
british columbia
ah
so fake (x2) french
Literally
My goat would know
i thought abt going to uni there once
i forget british columbia exists
i dont remember most of the canadian provinces
bro chat my screen is blurring am i cooked
Most of them do nothing anyway
W
Some good unis in Canada
And I didn't go to any of them
Education shmeducation
i left high school
biggest waste of time in human history
besides super bowl 2026 ig

I don't control what my province does 😔
I don't even know why they wanna leave Canada
damn
Praying on my life it doesn't go through
Dm me to battle reg I rules
Yep.
Paul Chua is also just, crazy good
The problem isn’t that there isn’t bolt balance counterplay. The problem is finding the @Paul_Chua_ counterplay
haha i saw that
which like, tru paul plays the team extremely different a lot of times
he played finals so well
only a few players i could see winning still after g1 t1 cuz im like he can still win this whereas most other ppl id b like oh its over
Yeah, crazy strong player
I watched the finals later cuz I was sleeping, the seniors finals was a really fun watch
i caught it in real time which was cool
top cut had 24/48 unique mons
23 if u dont count lando i and lando t separately
True yes
still more variety then i think ppl give credit for in the format
I think it’s overshadowed by bolt balance’s dominance
I haven’t quite found what I wanna play the most, but I’m looking into dengo stuff
For like, real teams
That was sad
something's off
“The stand user could be anyone.”
Flutter Mane @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Grass
- Moonblast
- Icy Wind
- Misty Terrain
- Taunt
This set made top cut LMAO
I mean lives Shifu and disables a lot of strats
Flutter might be one of the most versatile mons of all time
fuckin awful
champions ass team but its flutter
also prolly chien pao w/ mega lucario
other stuff has converted it hasnt only been bolt balance but yea its been very dominant
its only won birmingham and euic
People definitely see it as that tho
Or can see it like that
right but id say thats more a groupthink perception issue vs the reality of it. and its not like the format is super diverse either lol i just think its more then what ppl credit it for
Yeah fs
flutter mane at home
i respect the bit

Testing an Anger Point tauros Team!! Did 2 versions, any feedback is appreciated
w/Frosslass: https://pokepast.es/2a64e7be74c84b3f
w/Beartic: https://pokepast.es/6e025b4bd58d43f5
I've been playing it in Showdown and adjusting it based on other ppl's opinions, but thought yall would be able to help as well :)
so since you want anger point activated immediately id imagine froslass would be more beneficial
since it outspeeds the tauros naturally
and idk is rocky helmet sinistcha a thing
Yeah, I tried Beartic bc someone on Showdown recommended me to use since I was already setting up Rain
Tbh I wasnt sure what item ppl usually use with it
what does beartic have to do with rain
OH BEARTIC GETS SWIFT SWIM????
id still rather use froslass here
Yeppp
Yeah from what I've tested a stat drop would often ruin Beartic's chance
well
beartics base speed is 50
paldean tauros base speed is 100
froslass base speed is 110
Yeah huge difference
Alr changed some held items, is this any better (?
https://pokepast.es/b149d2d851973a2d
Also changed Frosslass' Psychic to shadow ball cause I think Frosslass can outspeed Flutter Mane
um
absolutely not
I mean my Frosslass has 178 Speed with the EVs and Nature
still not fast enough
So should I leave it with Psychic instead of Shadow Ball (?
fluttermane speed tier should be 205 i think
why are you using psychic over shadow ball anyways
what fighting type are you scared of with anger point tauros
You're right nvm
I was just trying to think of any scenario, but I think most of them die with the x4 Attack anyways lmao
shadow ball is a really good attack to have on your team in general
Besides that, other change prob would be Power Herb on Archaludon so it can use Electro Shot without waiting
Or is it better with Assault Vest?
your in a rain team you dont need power herb
av is better
Lmao
So final team: https://pokepast.es/17ca1df743f0e347
Only real change needed was Shadow Ball over Psychic
what tera type is the tauros
Fire
VGC 2026 Reg F
Niiice
can someone calc for me if a froslass can eat a thunderclap
So no change needed for Tauros' Tera?
How do we calculate that?
showdown calculator
Hm there arent any other good alternatives for Frosslass in the team?
Chien Pao (Paldea Tauros turn to Urshifu)
Also Gambit is a weird choice knowing that you could just run Pao Shifu Flutter Peli Archa Amogus
I just remembered, I need to alter my EVs on my Pokemon for the upcoming GC and then register them 😅
Wouldnt be the same Anger Point gimmick then
Bruh lol
I have some time luckily; should take me less than 30 - 40mins
I feel like you could play that team fine cuz like with anger Point gimmick you kinda don’t play Rain IIRC
I haven’t even built my team yet lol
Rain is like my Plan B in case Anger Point fails!
Had my team basically built for a while (on showdown) 😅
Already had some matches with Galarian Wheezing where I had to improvise and use Rain
But like just two mons?
Cuz what I’m seeing is that Anger Point has 3 mons and Rain has 2 mons
Sinistcha is the only universal one here ngl
And with Urshifu Pao Flutter it’s a lot more manageable for some matchups as well
Hm perhaps I could replace Gambit with something else that supports this?
Yikes-
Outside of speed ig is better but it’s still not a big difference
And Urshifu runs Scarf anyways
The x4 Attack after Anger Point is not worth the Trade Off tho?
It’s not that hard to kill Tauros if I am being real here
Especially if you are doing anger point then you have 2 already locked mons for leading that doesnt have Any redirection or fake out
Really easy to say let a raging bolt tclap your Tauros
Also Urshifu Bypass Protect is already broken enough lol
So either you play that lead and expect people to lead something against your lead forcing you to reposition (usually not a bad thing,but if you dedicate your team to anger point then it’s quite bad)
And Rain is not a sure fire way for a plan B
Hm I see
I used to have a Team that Lead with a Flame Orb Luxray and Frosslass when SV started, I would Tera Normal it and use Facade as a Plan B in case my Tauros wasnt able to use Anger Point
Thought Rain could replicate something like that
But the current Meta is too broken for that
Unless I find a way to incoorporate some unexpected set up to activate Anger Point, its prob too late to use it (?
Hm, would it be too stupid to try to make a Team using both Urshifu, Tauros and Rain? (Bare with me, its like 5am here, I'm prob spilling nonesense atp lmao)
Tbf Rain is in a Weird spot but it’s still good
So I think you can just focus over rain instead of Anger point since even in GC you can mostly expect they bring Counterplay (Raging Bolt and Flutter Mane most likely)
Then again it’s up to you to decide
Hm I think I'll test different Gimmick combinations in that case, something outside the usual has to work
Just realised that the next GC will likely be the last one in "ScarVio" 😅
Making weird teams like that keep the game fun! But experimenting with them is sooo time consuming
Plot twist: We get Legends Ultra Z and Ultra A announced this Pokemon Day
oh dear lord >_<
But unlikely, Champions is next xP
That’s why usually play Meta Teams to hone the skill you need to make those wacky teams
Oh yeah Froslass would most likely have Mega so you could play that in Champions
And Mega Froslass is not bad per say
Yeah gotta practice them more, just gets tiring after playing the same teams eith the same few mons after a while yk
Oh I'm so looking forward for that
Been Shiny Hunting a Frosslass in ZA just for that >:)
One thing that makes you wonder; will they have the size differences to show if we have an Alpha in Champions? 🤔
If they're using 3D Models I don't see why they wouldnt
Like Pumkaboo 100% will have that programmed, Alphas and stuff should too
If we don't get either a release date or an extensive trailer, I'm going to be super sad
If nothing about champs on Pokémon day I’ll be sad too, we’ve been in the dark since April 
Hola
Hola
Hows it kicking people?
gc in 4 days
Yeah im debating coming back for it
but I dont have a team lol
whats the Go-to rain team atm?
wag gangey
bro i just ordered mcdonalds and now im sad
first i had to get it refunded cuz some prick took my food, then i ordered it from a different store and these hashbrowns are completely inedible and WHERE IS MY STRAW
Horrible
It’s like pelliper archaludon
these hashbrowns are fucking frisbees
throw them and theyd hurt more than captain americas shield
In reg F? quite surprised
Yes it should be this core
There aren’t much rain mons tbh but I may be wrong
archaludon is GOOD and pelliper is… well pelliper
Seems like all the top cores atm are balance again
fork found in kitchen
Fork for McD?
no fork found in kitchen is a saying for something that should feel incredibly obvious
like this
yeah balance is everywhere
Yeah bolt balance dominates
Oh
has anyone created the anti-balance yet
i am not using raging bolt cuz i dont HAVE a raging bolt
well yeah its obvious to anyone apart from the guy who took 4 months off lol
I can lend you mine if you want
havent played vgc in quite a bit idk how i feel about rejoining in a reg f format
Although looks like a prime time for Tsareena return
really they should rename it Reg Bolt
NOW you’re speaking my language
Tsareena kicked ass (for me) in Reg I when balance was everywhere
so i should pull out the tsareena hypercarry
I just played against a tsareena
based player
tsareena is so goated and i never get to use it
same with my mascot pokemon meowscarada 😑
Id imagine Sun is quite popular atm?
unfortunately frail grass types do not fare well
It’s kinda mid
@sudden remnant you playing hsr absolute peak
Meowscarada was in my first ever VGC team, copying this team to be specific: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3-jgID4Tag
What if getting hit by a crit was a good thing in Pokémon? Well, I made a team that does just that! By intentionally using Meowscarada to guarantee a critical hit onto your own Pokémon, you can turn it into a powerhouse that can potentially win a competitive VGC match in just two turns!
Team explanation - 0:00
Game 1 - 1:30
Two turn win with ...
my jingliu is doing negative damage.
she might as well be healing the enemy
I saw that vid
would be funny to bring it back in GC
LMAO
wow a whopping 17k with a premium team 😭
💀
jingliu sparkle e6 rmc and hyacine
I haven’t playied in so long
Sparkle e6???
jingliu has mydeimos’ lightcone
i wish, no e6 rmc
Oh ok
WHY IS SHE DOING NO FUCKING DAMAGE
Skill issue /j
7k hp 94/529 and shes NOT DOING ANY DAMAGE
yes she has 530 crit damage
and is STILL doing no damage
How
Interesting, where can i squeeze in Ludi 🤔
this genuinely might be a skill issue on my part i cant lie
how the fuck is this bods not dead
HEY SHE DID 300K WE’RE GETTING SOMEWHERE
On the new one I haven’t played much
PROGRESS
I don’t know
and her crit rate is actually 104 cuz rmc e1 gives 10%
so its not missing crits
if i leave this domain and this boss has ice res im gonna fucking tweak
💀
cuz both of my dps’ are ice
Maybe you switched lc
Or artifact
For no reason and you forgot
Did i miss a whole pokemon gen or something? WTH are you on about lol
We ain’t talking abt pokemon
I guessed lol I was taking the piss
Ok
So are you planning to play vgc again
I am heavily debating taking part in GC this weekend
will run some team builds and practice games on ladder Today and Tomorrow before i decide
You should if you have the team
honkai star rail
my hot blindfolded assassin baddie wasnt killing a dragon and i was crashing out
maybe remove the blindfold, might help
she wears them for a reason
She won’t remove it
Ok so @real prairie what team are you thinking to run
although in the story if you see her remove them you’re probably already dead
Will likely be rain, as i always run Ludicolo
both of our mascots are grass types 
I see we got a big ludicolo fan
Yeah without swift swim, its a bit cheeks
Fake out and encore are my primary uses for it
Ok swift swim much better
swift swim encore 🥀 basically prankster atp
Same ability as basculigieon
Oh thought you were offering me an idea haah
no, i have no plans yet. Might just build off my reg I team and look for workable replacements
i am barely awake gang not rn 😭
Oh no, Cloudflare shat itself again.
Oh uhm I can help
I’m sorry😭 for not giving it
If you want to, it would be appreciated, but you don't have to.
not my first rodeo haha
W line
Once WBLP after all lol
Do you think it'll take 1UK3 more than 5 matches to beat me for the first time?
Yes
Ok then good luck
Danke
Jokin
What's your estimate?
Bitte, i would run pelliper archaludon ludicolo and 3 other mons that I dunno
I struggle with Pelli, but not mad at the other 2
can go back to running bullet seed dice Ludi and self proc stamina
Why do you struggle with pelli?
I honestly dont know tbh
always ended up running toed instead
Politoed rain perish trap team
You should run that /j
I dunno pelliper feels better
user?
Yao Guang
Man💔
guess who i lost to
I’ll download hsr back now
Gepard
worse…. unfortunately
i also like clara (but no, worse)
Uhm then
wait whens the last time you played
Sometime ago but I had to make a new acc
So I’m like back at beginning
do you remember what update
Maybe go something like this: https://pokepast.es/2abc5c66f4f9667f
Yanqing worse
no yanqing at least does something
he has a FuA that can almost guarantee to freeze
Yes but I hate him sooo
i wish is lost to fu xuan
I had seelee e2 in old acc and she was doing decent
Valid
Could go
i watched a yt video of this guys e5 yanqing doing more than my jingliu just did

Raging moveset is weird tho
i can cope by saying my jingliu is e0 but she should still be out dps’ing a yanqing regardless
its not that bad (i have 10 different accounts btw)
Lmao
im not joking
I mean starting with archer and Dan heng it’s really easy
I belive you
did you pick sparkle from the selecter?
theres an active event for the 4.0 update
theres a 5* selecter with like dhil kafka acheron jingliu sparkle aventurine and…… im missing someone
Electroweb isn't great when I'm looking to TR half the time
W
I’m at 75% downloading the game
oh you wont get the free archer anymore
so i hope you already claimed it before the event ended
First game ive hit an issue, Waterpon, Rilla, Bolt etc.
First win after a five-loss streak.
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2026regi-2540810981-glacvn2yg921f9fsvucrnavvd15ot2npw
Watch a replay of a Pokémon battle between PaulGoodman777 and Sakuraa2004! Format: [Gen 9] VGC 2026 Reg I; Date: Feb 16, 2026
Mirror matches and CSR-Zama are so fucking exhausting.
Why the fuck I saw Archer in my VGC chat
there any plugins for chrome that auto capture replays and then put them into PASRS?
I don't think so, that would be awesome
That would make my job so easy.
Time to get developing I suppose then
Assume PASRS is indeed the current agreed standard?
Yeah, 6.2 specifically.
I have ideas.
i have one
it doesn't automatically put it in but you can mass copy paste
Oooo
Yeah thats useful and halfway to what I was thinking, equally im in an ADHD motivation mood, so going to look into maybe building PASRS directly into a website and having it do all the heavy lifting, linking straight to SD.
But I imagine ill burn out in a day or two when I realise how much work its gonna be
Game just can't give me 1600
But whatever I stopped my decay and beat one of my harder mus for it so I'm content
I might be a generational player
The Lebron of wordle
Damn
Think Chicken
Male Chicken
1 letter off
the fact Corviknight would have been a better clue than chicken means we need to touch grass
move in vgc
Bc yes
Already found it out.
I’ll try
Absolutely generational.
Also, any words that start with "leas-" other than "least" and "lease"?
What the fuck is the word here?
Leash
Oh, yeah.
Apparently we have become competitive wordle today
Cool
Are names considered words here?
Oh
So now my options are Harry, Barry and Garry.
Usually not names
||Marry|| is what I would guess
Marry isn't an option, I tried it.
Already told him it’s wrong
Oh weird
I feel it’s harry
Let's see.
It is
It was.
My thought process makes me look like a cheater sometimes.
I cheat
So basically I use wordle finder when I’m at the last word
But I call it a skill
I'm too stupid for Wordle
Doesn't that just take away all the fun?
Also today I learned that Clefairy doesn't like to take a tera fire helping hand heat crash from Groudon in the sun
Thing got sploded
No I get too angry if I lose also it doesn’t give you always one word so you don’t automatically win
I've been playing the Clef mu so wrong
Angry at a game about words?
It's just a fun challenge
It’s a death or life challenge
If I lose i kill the incineroar in my basement
I would never hold such a nasty creature anywhere near my house
I would
I have multiple
Gross
Next you're going to say you have a Rillaboom enclosure 😔
Nah I don’t have him
You were so close to bolt balance 😔
I just realised that I play bolt balance
Like I knew that obviously
But you know everyone plays it
What team you play
Like if I actually got a bolt in game I would have played the GC this week
I think it’s this week
I play Reg I
Half the team is full of bums though
Ogerpon and Wake could be doing like 18x more work than they do
Lmao
Fraudpon only puts in work against very specific mus
Same with walking fraud who is only good into Zama and Lando
Which all things considered are very good things to be good into
I guess so
After all this time playing reg f, i forgot that reg i is fun
My response is maybe
Very
Valid
I kinda changed the team now sooo
Maybe
Do need some beta testing first
I won a set in Day 2 of a regional because my opponent KO'd his own pokemon
He had joycon drift and killed his own Dragapult that was set up to sweep the game
Not the self destruct
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
NOT THE JOY CONS
Yeah hahaha I felt bad, he called a judge over as well and wanted the game win
But the judge was like... I can't do anything to help you
Welp
We all blame Nintendo for that
(This is why I use Pro Controller for events and leave the joycons at home
I just use a Pro controller in general.
Never had Joycon problems ever
Someone "i still have a wincon i shouldn't forfiet" the wincon-
so if i were to open scarlet and play vgc rn id be in reg F
sorry i mean Reg Bolt
No, the ladder is Reg I
it's only tournaments that are Reg F
okay much better
reg bolt is like the same 5 pokemon anyways
bolt, waterfu, fluttermane, incin, and the last is probably ursaluna
Which one?
Yeah, it gives you the option to actually get some practice in against me.
(You are NOT avoiding that match btw)
regulation Bolt (F)
I meant which Ursaluna.
both of them probably
i have to wait till next year to enter the official competitive scene
i missed toronto regionals
are there any other regionals on the east coast?
Orlando
Find information about official Pokémon Championship Series events scheduled around the world.
April 3rd-5th
yep 😄 indianapolis
hey thats not that far
and its just after my birthday
that parts not entirely relevant but its interesting
The thing is that you can't have unwired controllers at tournaments
Everything has to be connected to the switch
There are wired pro controllers
you should go to Indy if you can, regionals are super fun
and very good chance it’s played on Champions instead of SV
hey it was you that invited me to that michigan local server right?
could you give me that invite i dont have @short quiver anymore so i dont have the server
Yeah give me a minute to find the spreadsheet with all the links
DM’d you the link to the midwest US VGC discord
and next winter im for sure going yo toronto idk if i wanna go all the way to orlando tho
and from there you can find michigan events and people
bless up
There is any channel for searching for competitive combats?
for searching for what?
i mean there might be people in here up for a match
toronto is 3 hours away, indy is 4 hours away, orlando is 16 hours away
yikes
What
So close are they?
Crazy
hm?
I am in a really dangerous false sense of security for GC
if this continues Tomorrow im going to have to commit
I guess #1046572041421197352
I might have to roll with Bolt balance to the GC
guys how viable is blaze incin :,) just changed its tera, traded for knockoff tm (no dlc gaming), brought it out in ranked and realised what i had done
any suggestions on what i could sub it for while i look for an ability patch? team is miraidon, zacian c, grimmsnarl, roaring moon, urshifu rs
its not blaze is a pretty useless ability
do you have in game money? you can buy ability patches if I remember correctly
they're pretty easy to get
oh RIP nvm apparently not
you can buy ability capsules i think not ability patches
What?
i know i'm just hard coping sadly
yea i know they're easy to get in the dlc, but i dont have that, so i think i either trade for it or find it in a raid
Incin is pretty much viable with almost any kind of item or tera or moves you want to change the one thing that its locked on every Incin xd
You could keep breeding and hope for hidden ability
you'd need an incin with its HA to have a chance for it to give intim to its offspring
i'm sure there's someone willing to trade you a patch
the parent indeed had it, i completely disregarded checking the offspring's though, cus yk, i might have a lil' cte
i'm waiting for someone to reply, then i'll start my hopeful search and hope you're right
i get why some vgc players gen their teams, it's so uninteractive compared to what you wanna do with them
Haha what I’m thinking too lmao
how many people do you think are gonna use wo-chien
im sure there are some slug supporters
Moxieboosted
Well there are some slug players through the past years
Shiliang Tang During AV Kyogre+Wo Chien Days
With 4 dark types lol
Kyogre also don’t lose that much HP and just full HP water spout after Wo Chien pollen puff magic
If I have one I can trade one to you
chat is there any important speed tier in reg F (minus fluttermane and its 205 i think it is)
im trying to calc my waterpon and i wanna know what speed allows me to outspeed what
Landorus
https://x.com/i/status/2023425424391573940
Dillon what you think
Now that we're nearly done with SV did tera actually make any "bad mons" more viable or did it literally just make good mons better for all 4 years?
With dmax we got to see mons shine like durant, gigas, palkia etc. but I feel like tera generally just made good mons more broken
lando hits 168
yeah I agree with the post mostly, it's hard to think of bad pokemon besides maybe Koraidon or other 4x weak mons that were made good because of tera
okay and whats the next tier
what do you mean next tier?
Yeah but I wouldn't call Koraidon completely bad though even without it
whats like the next benchmark below lando
My thoughts are like maybe Dragonite
205 (flutter) 168 (lando)
Also if we don't count Gen 7 then you could make a case for Kommo-O
so my waterpon should be fine at about 170
That's the hard part like
Really like either the Pokemon aren't 100% shit without tera or Tera wasn't the only thing that helped it
like articuno?
Articuno benefitted from the snow change
yeah which was your second point
where tera wasnt the only thing that made it good
okay so 196 jolly puts waterpon at 170 speed
but thats a lot of investment
It’s going to be weird seeing a raging bolt that’s weak to fairy
what?
After tera
what tera is bolt using now?????
and now im even more confused
no...
You should used the Roaring Dengo gaming
What is there even to get
After tera stops being the gimmick
Raging bolt will always be weak to fairy
And CSR will no longer be my favourite fairy type
Watch a replay of a Pokémon battle between cynicallightning and itsastralvgc! Format: [Gen 9] VGC 2026 Reg F; Date: Feb 17, 2026
holy predicts on my part
only one i missed was turn 4 where they went for poni again instead if chien pao
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2026regf-2541228593-t9do6xqytxn695v2s416vbuosaqavyipw lmao
Watch a replay of a Pokémon battle between vgcaaron_ragon and cynicallightning! Format: [Gen 9] VGC 2026 Reg F; Date: Feb 17, 2026
Doesn’t he win???
Without any context yeah
But the Caly is scarfed and clicking astral barrage
So unless the Zama hit a quad protect nah I win
But it is funny looking at the state of the board
CSR mirrors are crazy tbh
It's also bo1
CSR effectively wastes 15 ev stats only to speed tie itself xd
Yeah cuz CTS sucks
No shenanigans occur in my teambuilder ever
I hope CTS is playable again in champions
I like OTS and I think its better for bo3 tournament environent
But CTS has also some kind of fun and tera kind of erases all that fun for me
“I win if he’s not Tera normal!”
tera normals
Dude I had a game where it's Groudon and Miraidon both against Kyogre, they have tera available and I click draco and miss and they get a huge tera water water spout off
Cause who runs tera water Kyogre anymore
Lmfao

Like that's the thing dude
And like if I click edrift and they tera grass I insta lose
And then they’re the Tera you didn’t cover for
Yeah it adds to much variance to bo1
Might be top 10 worst feelings in vgc
Cause you lowkey just instantly lose
Ok I actually think cloak shifu is really funny into incin
But ground Tera is smth else
What does ground even cover you get clapped by rilla anyways lmao
Literally just raging bolt.
Literally just bolt
Bo1 hurts so much more in restricteds formats imo
Yeah
me whos been answering urshifu with my waterpon laughing my ass off rn
Cause 1 kinda bad turn and you just lose the entire game
Lowkey I like seeing it over fairy
And then my Farigoatraf sets up tr and Groudon goes kaboom
Ig
Was going to say
252+ SpA Life Orb Sheer Force Landorus Sludge Bomb vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Brute Bonnet: 177-211 (95.1 - 113.4%) -- 75% chance to OHKO
Honestly he eats it a lot better than I would've thought
Lando just hits too hard
Lando is just that guy
252+ SpA Life Orb Sheer Force Landorus Earth Power vs. 132 HP / 252 SpD Groudon: 110-133 (57.2 - 69.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
Most Ogerpon don't take a raw sludge bomb rn
I really enjoyed bonnet for the horses
Trust me, I know
Thanks Jirachi
How is the Ogerpon sludge bomb calc actually
252+ SpA Life Orb Sheer Force Landorus Sludge Bomb vs. 188 HP / 124 SpD Ogerpon-Hearthflame: 161-190 (89.9 - 106.1%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO
Bad
124+ SpA Life Orb Sheer Force Landorus Sludge Bomb vs. 188 HP / 4 SpD Ogerpon-Hearthflame: 164-195 (91.6 - 108.9%) -- 56.25% chance to OHKO
And this is a super bulky Ogerpon man
252+ SpA Life Orb Sheer Force Landorus Earth Power vs. 12 HP / 0 SpD Walking Wake: 153-181 (86.9 - 102.8%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO
what
I need protect
Very desperately
I already only have 3 on the team
Making it 2 would explode any form of pace control I have
There's like a 0% chance I'll ever change this team anyway
It's old and it's working
After decay happens tonight I might hit top 30
I be praying that all my opps decay
I still feel like my gxe should be higher but it's whatever
It's bo1 cts who cares
When champions releases I want you to get top 1 of cart ladder
Without Groudon it's impossible
But you'll have primal Groudon
Definitely not on release
Idk If I could in a tera format tho LOL
I haven't really taken mons seriously in a while so maybe champions will reawaken something
In megas I'll practice bo1 super hard
Kinda just clowning around on Reg I ladder right now
No more tera excuses for me
Now I'll be number 10 in the GC and get here saying "I lost cuz they were mega Staraptor instead of scarf"
Dragonite is gonna be super problematic in bo1 too I think it has too many sets
Best I've done was 7th 😔
Its top 10 its also pretty good
My only top 1 was in a format that released like for 1 hour
!!!
A win is a win we take it
I hit 3rd on the ingame ladder once but it was right after refresh
lmao
I remember losing the next game as well
It's been like a year and a bit and I still remember
I hate you Regidrago you killed my Ursaluna
Man Regidrago is so broken
Yes !
Someone who left vgc in sw/sh would think I'm crazy by saying that
Its actually so oppresive in the meta rn you have to respect it a lot
Somehow in the Flutter mane generation
Oh I guess I've hit top 10s in random mess around oms before
Fr
I have to win a local too atleast one time man LOL
Locals don't exist for me
But that's ok
I won a local sized limitless tour so that was good
And that was Reg G 1
I had been playing for like 2 months at that point
A win is a win
😔
But yeah
I want to get my first win even if its something small
One has to start from somewhere
Exactly
That limitless tour may have only had 44 people but man I won it !
Thank you av kingambit for living a tera Terapagos ep after tanking a fake tears
You're my goat for real
I'm starting to think my memory is better than I think
Also I just want to take a second to say how far I've come as a team builder
And 7-1 swiss too damn
And the guy I lost to in pools I got my run back in finals
That Flutter tera is wild
Booster energy bolt on a sun team 😔
Not grass by itself but sash + tera grass lol
So I can take 2 surging strikes in the sun 🤓
lmao
Nah yeah I think it was mostly for rage powder but it came into play probably once ever
I bet that the Ogerpons evs are max max min too
Wait I could actually find this team
Maybe
Search brick break on your builder
Sad to say I found it
I knew it 😔
Thank you me from almost 2 years ago for being extremely predictable
What is even that Groudon set
I really liked my offensive evs
Didn't have a clue what def or sp def evs even did
The grimmsnarl set was 100% stolen
Or at least was just a jump point
And it's cause it's a Grimmsnarl
I love my 252 modest raging bolt in the sun
You are booster too
The worst part
Did you play without sun too much
Groudon came to 100% of the games
LMAO
There's at least 3 better items that the Bolt could've had
And 252 jolly Ogerpon solves the Kyoge mu pretty well
Maybe magnet was the play
There's no way Kyogre was screwing me that badly
Magnet, lorb, goggles, literally anything
I like that I now make 100% of my sets
I don't really enjoy taking sets from other teams
Sometimes I enjoy making teams more than I actually enjoy playing games
Yeah most teams need to survive or KO different stuff
I also learnt how to make my own teams because of Groudon
Lowkey was a good place to learn
Cause there was almost no teams to even base my ideas off of
Yeah its more of a niche mon but still viable so
Exactly
So the ideas just got to be mine
I doubt I came up with scarf Miraidon + Groudon but man it's by far my favourite version
I wish I had an archetype that I liked to play
It feels so good when you make a functional team
Hate how I only perform when I like the team
If I deep down don't like a team I can't play it well
Not sure how much this applies to most of mine
Cause like Groudon is sick and all but he's still Groudon
That's fine too comfort is a big part
Functional but not regional winning
The thing is also figuring out how to make that confort zone bigger too you know
Like I know this is going to sound super ego heavy but I don't know why or how I do well
Like I use Groudon and get somewhat decent results on the ladder
I don't think I'm a top player by any means
Nah it's fine to have ego
Everyone needs it in some way you have to believe in yourself to play this game too
But I don't mean for it to even be ego
And like I do downplay myself but it's cause I don't see it when I look at my results
But it's stupid to say I'm bad because I do see what I do and it's not 100% luck
Yeah that's common too
It is weird though cause I don't think I've been playing Reg I seriously at all but I'm doing better than I've ever done
That's probably at least part of it
Maybe it's cause no ones really playing Reg I
Like barely
Unless you're counting me talking about me as talking about Groudon
Groudon biggest fan + Groudon enjoyer Groudon has to be a topic at one point or another
I am Groudon's weakest soldier
[Message](#competitive_discussion message) in #competitive_discussion
I also learnt how to make my own teams because of Groudon
😔
the groudon self insert, classic
But it's true
hahahah ik its just funny u worked it into the convo
Well of course

I was comparing my past teams(garbage) to my current teams(leftovers in the fridge)
tree see his limitless team

Go look at it Kek
I mean I've made worse
howd it do
^
Went 7-1 so it worked well but I think I got good mus
I guess I could find it
ahh reg g
3 CSR man lol
And then I lose to the turtle
Aw hell nah the kingambit in reg g
He cooked the horses alright
I guess
Honestly the kingambit should be the least concerning thing there
Fire punch Groudon, booster Bolt, Max max min Oger with follow me, Tera grass flutter with taunt and sash
The booster bolt hurts so bad man LMAO
I know 😔
Oh it is booster
Why is there a 164 Groudons in my teams document

Will you ever clean your teambuilder
I’ve probably made roughly 200 teams with Zac
But my cookies get wiped monthly for some reason so
Did it once
Team document has 290 teams in it
Current builder has 314
I need to save my evs for champions!
Holy shit
Fr
Found my first Groudon team ever
Dude I need to make sure I have my sash shifu spread, man I’d be so sad if I lost that


