competitive_discussion

[foggy lodge]

As always

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/call-me-carson-carson-crying-carson-crying-minecraft-gif-15042578

I HAVE TO PLAY SINGLES???

[shadow wind]

I've been thinking about going to OU

[molten oasis]

Wait MDB was a singles player?

[foggy lodge]

Yes

[dense latch]

yea years before he got into vgc

[molten oasis]

wtf

[shadow wind]

Wolfey was also a singles player before

[molten oasis]

What does singles teach for doubles?

[foggy lodge]

Win cons

[shadow wind]

Preservation

[foggy lodge]

Yeah and positioning

[shadow wind]

Ok so I only have 6 accounts registered in showdown but I know I have more

[foggy lodge]

Singles and doubles have the same bases tbh

Pokemon is still pokemon

[molten oasis]

But that means I gotta play singles

Which, with how shit the current format is, ig wouldn’t be bad

[dense latch]

mdb was also crazy good at chess so he's really good at planning several turns ahead

[shadow wind]

Singles team building is like 19 times harder than vgc

[foggy lodge]

I would play singles if it wasn't still SV lmfao

[molten oasis]

Ok true

[foggy lodge]

I play anything but SV rn

[dense latch]

that's how he won a major with hard tr

[shadow wind]

Scholars mate or whatever

[dense latch]

i used to play almost any ability

[molten oasis]

So MDB is just insane

[shadow wind]

Yes

[dense latch]

found pokeaim on ladder

[shadow wind]

Dude I remember seeing you in a video and popping off

I've only appeared in one youtube video 🥀

[dense latch]

in every sense of the word

[molten oasis]

I beat moxie in reg h once

[dense latch]

i was using a team he had featured earlier so i was fucked 😭

[molten oasis]

That’s my impact on vgc

[shadow wind]

But I have had 2 videos made on teams I've made so I'm proud of that

[shadow wind]

I played Wolfe on Reg H ladder once

We did NOT win that

[molten oasis]

Lmao

[dense latch]

a friend of mine beat marcos and jeudy when they did mofongo monday

[shadow wind]

It was his perish trap team too

[molten oasis]

Nice

[molten oasis]

Oh ofc it was, Wolfe and perish trap=cooked

[foggy lodge]

What top players have y'all beated

[shadow wind]

I so should've saved that replay cause now I look like a fraud 😔

[shadow wind]

JAWNZU and Lorenzo Arce

[molten oasis]

I don’t know

[foggy lodge]

I've beated some LATAM players and Fedecampo

[shadow wind]

Goat

[molten oasis]

Maybe I beat someone in the one tour I did with gapdos and Prima

[dense latch]

i beat mdb in broken cup once out of like 7 times i've played him
i got a game off him in the smogon live tour

[molten oasis]

[dense latch]

but aside from that idt i've beaten any top players :(

[foggy lodge]

Oh I beated seawolfmikes too

[molten oasis]

I’ve beaten him once too I think

[foggy lodge]

I'm 1-1 with seawolfmikes

[dense latch]

o same

i play him every so often

thacrow i've beaten a few times too he's a senior regional champ

[molten oasis]

If I didn’t do alt accounts every 5 minutes I’d probably find more

[foggy lodge]

Damn

[molten oasis]

Just really struggling to wanna commit to a team rn

[foggy lodge]

I beated Astterio on ladder too

He is from the community here too

[dense latch]

im gonna pretend i beat some top player while grinding bo1 ladder but they were just anonymous :)

[molten oasis]

lol

[foggy lodge]

Lmao

[dense latch]

i really need to go play locals

[molten oasis]

I mean, it’s not unlikely

[foggy lodge]

Must have happened

[dense latch]

just to get destroyed by renzo navarro or kommander

[foggy lodge]

I thought about competing at majors but like

[dense latch]

see how that feels

[foggy lodge]

If I did I would at best compete at santiago and maybe travel to argentina to play their special event

And even then I'm just considering it cuz

Playing majors is expensive dude

[dense latch]

just win

[foggy lodge]

True

[molten oasis]

I’d try and compete in more tournaments but I just don’t have money and online limitless tours lowkey scare me

[foggy lodge]

If I win a regional suddenly everything is cheap

[molten oasis]

I think with where my mental and playing is I’d do fine

But it’s also reg h

[molten oasis]

[dense latch]

i've won two very small limitless tours

[molten oasis]

Almost won wide league once

[foggy lodge]

I remember mdb and pokealex talked about how they canceled reg h regionals and they don't regret it lmao

[molten oasis]

Well, hit top 8

[foggy lodge]

Oh pokealex also hosted a tournament today

It was cool maybe I play ir next month

[molten oasis]

I’ll play if reg f returns

Or champions actually happens in January

Or I’ll theory build if mega abilities get leaked

[foggy lodge]

You will end up running what I build

I'm the greatest teambuilder ever

[molten oasis]

But it won’t have a Mon I like so I won’t

[dense latch]

maxi is chilean for shiliang tang btw

[molten oasis]

Although I’ve been more open about that

[foggy lodge]

Indeed

Shiliang is so broken

[molten oasis]

Max has been onto stuff a lot

[foggy lodge]

I want to understand his thought process at building teams

The last one he made was maybe the worst tho

[molten oasis]

I build against meta usually if I’m actually active

I’m playing pretty casually rn

Just to not rust for champions

[shadow wind]

I found it 😭

You gotta trust that I was on the other side of that battle

[molten oasis]

I wonder how Maya’s doing

[shadow wind]

Enjoying retirement with pocket as far as I know

Dude looking back in those dms I titled so hard for losing against that 😭

Like dude was second on ladder and I was upset that I lost

Glad that I can look back and see how stupid I was being

[molten oasis]

Lmao

[shadow wind]

I do have the alt name of that still so if I ever see that name again

I'll be ready !

[molten oasis]

He will likely never use that name again lol

[dense latch]

pocket took way too much space on my phone so i had to delete it

[shadow wind]

So very true

It was a dumb name too

Perfect for secret laddering I guess

"Trevanator" 😭

[molten oasis]

Lmfao

[dense latch]

his euic one was so specific too

[shadow wind]

Yknow I can see why I was tilting actually

Lost to perish trap and a guy named "Trevanator"

[dense latch]

yuzuru hanyu 2009

o i googled it he's a figure skater

[shadow wind]

Interesting

Erik you should play challenge cup 1v1s

You seem like the gambling type

[dense latch]

i tried it

[shadow wind]

Dude I remember I got gaslit once that challenge cup t500 was hard 😔

[dense latch]

queues were too much for me

[shadow wind]

And then I looked so dumb when I was proud of it 😭

[shadow wind]

I swear to god that bot could become #1 on ladder

eaubot my beloved

[dense latch]

i should play a bit more doubles ou just to crack top 500

[shadow wind]

😭

[molten oasis]

Wow

[shadow wind]

Bro had to make it not seem suspicious

"Nothing to see here" ahh

[dense latch]

was the drop to 21.7% gxe in bo3 necessary lmao

[shadow wind]

Absolutely

He just went 10-0

Wait

0-10

Really 0-10 is 21%?

Bro I just want the servers to restart 😭

But I'm stuck waiting for the slowest game of all time to happen

Why we even here

[limpid lagoon]

im a bit new to the comp scene and i js wanna battle my brother w flat rules whats a nice drizzle team (or whatever you have fun with just show me what you guys like ig)

[real prairie]

check out some of the teams in #rental_teams

[limpid lagoon]

cheers

[real prairie]

Showdown been hit by the AWS services outage

[shadow wind]

Is that what's going on?

I kinda just assumed it was my internet

I just wanna check the challenge cup 1v1 ladder 🥀

Oh hey I’m 44th on that ladder

It loaded on mobile instantly for some reason

Ah heck yeah

[bold geode]

Wha

[real prairie]

https://news.sky.com/story/huge-internet-outage-knocks-out-snapchat-amazon-and-multiple-other-websites-and-apps-13453810

[real prairie]

Think the backup servers aren't hosted on AWS which is a nice touch

[bold geode]

That's actually so bad not only for gaming but also for the fact that Ring and Life360 are affected

[forest arrow]

My bank account was affected

I use chime and now am considering using an actual bank now

[molten oasis]

Yikes

[real prairie]

lots of actual banks were affected too

[bold geode]

Have they fixed it yet or

[real prairie]

mostly

[waxen dock]

Ok,i feel weird asking this but deos someone have a good ho reg h team?

[polar canyon]

Oh no I can't believe clash royale is down

Terrible day for the unemployed

[real prairie]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlVwqjcG3y0&t=3971s

thats the Go-To HO team atm

[foggy lodge]

Wolfey's team is a good one

And its no super complicated

4/6 mons of that team are just 252 252 4

https://pokepast.es/cf55b58f496ef30f

[polar canyon]

Have you guys been enjoying za

It's making me get back into pokemon I think I'm getting fired up for champions when it comes out

I also have hope for freeze and sleep reworks since the previous legends games were in development at the same time as sv I think

So it's possible that the legends arceus drowsy and frostbite could maybe be in champions

[next stump]

i’ve been loving ZA

never played arceus so it’s my first time with this style of game

i’m actually enjoying the campaign compared to something like SWSH which is a button mash simulator

[stone trellis]

Hello.

[shadow wind]

Wait does ZA even have status conditions?

[knotty mirage]

I think it does

[next stump]

yeah it does

[bold geode]

Yeah they didn't really have it this style in Arceus, this the first time they done it and it's so gas

[graceful raptor]

Man I'm really confused trying to understand how to decide a good defensive tera type.

[next stump]

what pokemon are you thinking about?

[molten oasis]

ZA gameplay is really fun

[shadow wind]

Sending this for when I super fall off

By the way if I get 11 more elo I'm 7th 💀

[stone trellis]

Depends on the Pokemon.

[shadow wind]

Just got whammed with 2 -34s 😔

[stone trellis]

Here's the ways most Tera types are used (aside from the super obvious stuff like just making your STAB moves stronger):

• Normal is mainly for those who want to make the move Extreme Speed even more powerful by either gaining STAB on it or amplifying the STAB which was already there
• Fire adds a lot of resistances and removes the ability to be burned, which works wonderfully for physical attackers
• Water has fewer resistances than Fire, but it also has very few weaknesses that aren't extremely common which makes it quite good defensively
• Grass gives the user an immunity to Spore and all powder moves, which is quite important due to how good things like Rage Powder are
• Ghost gives the user an immunity to Fake Out and potentially any Fighting type moved which might endanger them
• Dragon grants quite a few key resistances while leaving the user with few weaknesses, kind of like Water
• Dark makes the user immune to Prankster-boosted status moves like Taunt, Encore or Thunder Wave
• Fairy is most often used to deal with a crippling weakness to Dark types
• Steel is used for the sheer amount of resistances it offers compared to its very few weaknesses

Stellar is obviously purely offensive, so I didn't mention it here.

[shadow wind]

Why does Passimian learn electro web

[real prairie]

para, poison, burn and drowsyness

[shadow wind]

Rest in peace frostbite

[real prairie]

sorry freeze is still in the game tooo

the only real change is no sleep, drowsyness instead causes a longer cooldown time between use of moves

[shadow wind]

Wait

Ah man

I thought Reg H ended this month

[molten oasis]

Nah next month

[shadow wind]

It ends Jan 5th

💀

[bold geode]

Nah we're changing formats methinks in December

[shadow wind]

I cannot read

https://www.serebii.net/scarletviolet/rankedbattle/regulationh.shtml

It says it ends Jan 5th 2025

[bold geode]

Brother
I want you to think about this really hard

What's wrong with this

[shadow wind]

I want you to think really hard about this

[bold geode]

Oh I know buddy

Me neither

[shadow wind]

😭

Mutual blindness

This game wants me to stop playing

I just got 3 games where I got less than 10

I'm not even that high on the ladder

[molten oasis]

WHAT

[shadow wind]

Nah

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/call-me-carson-carson-crying-carson-crying-minecraft-gif-15042578

[shadow wind]

I'm reading last years Reg H dates

[molten oasis]

Oh ok

[shadow wind]

Yeah

[solid frigate]

More time to rest about VGC

Might buy ZA this week anyway

[shadow wind]

I am so happy to be playing this kind of team

It's actually wild that I'm saying this

But I'd much rather play Zama CSR than any Kyogre or CIR team

[foggy lodge]

Yeah

Reg H will only last 3 months

https://tenor.com/view/man-free-man-freedom-free-chain-gif-2032133702890087634

[forest arrow]

“ We’d like you to revisit reg I “

[shadow wind]

Honestly would still be better than Reg H

[foggy lodge]

Give me anything but reg I now

Give me reg F man please please please please please make the poll have SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE SEASON

[shadow wind]

Just can't give me any 1500s players

[jade dust]

I hope mega Meganium gets chlorophyll or something like that

So it can be a sun sweeper

It gets a good chunk of Sp Atk and bulk

Can be a bulky attacker with giga drain and dazzling gleam

[shadow wind]

Triage !!

Although megas that get new typings are weird cause a lot of the time they don't already have that new stab

Why does shadow shield ignore mold breaker

[short quiver]

yo is there a sheet or smthn somewhere of all the BSTs of the new megas

[dense latch]

https://www.serebii.net/legendsz-a/megaevolutions.shtml

[short quiver]

BLESS YOU

[short quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/ryo-yamada-peak-kessoku-hood-cry-gif-11973619532883276346

163 SpD Mega Dragalge

compensated by 44 speed ig

[shadow wind]

Man losing 30 every game stacks really quickly

[short quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/encore-wuthering-waves-wuwa-thumbs-up-gif-5192125987591069786

[shadow wind]

Dude has never heard of turning off the reply @

[short quiver]

youd be correct

yo with those stats will mega skarmory actually be a viable pokemon

[shadow wind]

Anything to mimic Groudon's power

[next stump]

you could probably use mega skarmory and not be full trolling

but the downside is you have regular skarmory sometimes hahaha

[shadow wind]

Depends on the ability but imagine having weak armour then mega'ing into something better like tough claws

😭

Bro had choice scarf tera ground tera blast Kyogre and is mad at me

[dense latch]

people when a move gets used a lot because it's good 😡

[shadow wind]

And he had double special restricted

Like maybe it's time to reflect

He's awesome

[short quiver]

in Za i could just farm mega power with another mon and then switch to skarmory to mega evolve it, in Champions idk how imma do it tho

[shadow wind]

We cannot be doin this for losing 9 elo 😭

[short quiver]

[shadow wind]

So why isn't bleakwind storm 50% acc in the sun

😭

😭

[solid frigate]

It’s just a fucking game chill out lol

[shadow wind]

Literally

Bro beat me on the run back because I was lowkey throwing

And then I get pm'ed

Like clearly someone cares a little too much

This is why I will always keep my messages on

[dense latch]

didn't the game happen half an hour ago 😭 you're in their head badd

[shadow wind]

We just played again

[short quiver]

for comedy of people throwing temper tantrums over a game?

[shadow wind]

Both

I almost hit them with a one liner but I didn't want to get reported

[short quiver]

you so should have

[shadow wind]

Nah who am I kidding I was trash talking

[short quiver]

sometimes making a new account is worth it

[dense latch]

honestly worth it some ppl make the ragebait rly easy

[shadow wind]

"I'm just a family guy" is one I need to use more

And to be fair they started it so if they reported me it won't hold up

[dense latch]

i never go past glhf and gg even if i do get trash talked
they're usually dozo players too i've noticed

[short quiver]

real

[shadow wind]

I never explicitly trash talk but I will talk to them

That dude was mad salty too

[short quiver]

i usually avoid talking in my games unless something actually wild happens

[shadow wind]

Salty over winning with Kyogre against Groudon 😔

[short quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/so-salty-salt-bae-bitter-jealous-angry-gif-17584364

[shadow wind]

And like yeah I did lose

I won't deny it if it happened

But I've been in the 1600s for the past 2 hours and they've been in the 1400s so what does it matter

Ok do you guys get like mad bots dming you from this server?

[solid frigate]

not even from this server just other servers are as well

Although its better if you don't have Nitro

they target nitro users more often

[shadow wind]

Oh weird

I've never had nitro

[solid frigate]

yeah thats like a year worth of investigation for it

[shadow wind]

I think I just activated a bots sleeper code

[solid frigate]

huh

[shadow wind]

Spoiler warning because I did say some things regarding self harm but I only said it because I was super under the impression that it was a bot

If anyone wants me to delete it then I absolutely will I wasn't trying to be funny in it I just wanted to see what bots say to stuff

[foggy lodge]

i never say gl

why would I want you to have good luck

[shadow wind]

I'll occasionally say gg but I never initiate the gl or hf

[foggy lodge]

I only say hf if they say it

[shadow wind]

I will always say "u2 m8" if they initiate it though

[foggy lodge]

Not trying to be an asshole i just want to have chances at the game lmao

ok gang help

I picked up the team that won the GC 2

But the sets are unknown

[solid frigate]

yeah no that response is a bot

[foggy lodge]

I only know the gambit is black glasses because I analyzed the image a len and found out the item on gambit wasn't covered lol

[shadow wind]

Why can't my Miraidon do that

[foggy lodge]

Lmao

https://pokepast.es/d2ce112a8458cb66 so this is the team I was running

Thing is

I'm now doubting of what the items were on the og team

I have no idea what the item on ape is

Seems like a goggles ape team but idk i'm not feeling like running goggles ape rn lol

[shadow wind]

Yeah if it didn't show I'd say lum

[foggy lodge]

I think brusha also said that they fought that team on the GC and the Gallade somehow survived a tera flying tera blast from Tytar

So its sash or

Coba berry lmfao

[solid frigate]

Lmfao

[shadow wind]

Alright there is like 4 people laddering right now

And I'm so not locked in I'm just losing every 50/50

I lost to a crit

My own crit

[jade dust]

Well Meganium gets dazzling gleam

[solid frigate]

@shadow wind MORE DEPRESSION

(5th replay)

[shadow wind]

LET'S GOOO

I LOVE THE CLOUD SEA OF ALREST

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/true-that-burns-the-sky-true-pokemon-pokemon-true-ultra-necrozma-gif-3766756404502528149

[devout adder]

does using a hacked mon that isnt illegal move or shiny wise cause penalty to the user in any way?

[solid frigate]

Hacked mons are illegal in Official Tournaments

For Ladder nobody cares about it

[shadow wind]

Finally a unique team

Poison gas was not cool

[stone trellis]

Stall brimstone, food for Ice Rider and Miraidon.

[jade dust]

Peak game

[waxen dock]

https://pokepast.es/1c5b178e4e9c5e5e what tera should i have on dnite?

[real prairie]

id go tera fighting tera blast over focus miss

[solemn flicker]

If Im you, prob a Ghost tera to evade Fake Out users and also eliminate any Ice, Rock, Dragon or Fairy weaknesses. That way you dont get hit by any for super-eff rather take neutral damage instead and you can still dish out Scale Shot without having to get flinched since you dont have inner focus ability.

[real prairie]

but as for Dnite, the low kick varient also usually runs tera fighting

[waxen mirage]

do we know if we will be able to transfer all megas from LZA to Champions?

[real prairie]

We dont know yet

just know that anything that goes into LZA cant go back

[waxen mirage]

damn, only reason for me to get lza is to farm all megas ready for Champions to save VP

[solemn flicker]

True! It could help mediate a bit the Rock weakness the team has. Killo and Talon are on Stellar tera so Dnite in for Fighting or Ghost tera lowers the Rock weakness.

[real prairie]

we will find out with the Home update when the DLC comes out

[waxen mirage]

Whens that?

[real prairie]

Feb 28th is the DLC

Pokemon Day is Feb 27th

so expect it to be around then

[waxen mirage]

damn, that's a long time. Buying and grinding a lot just for some mega stones T_T

[real prairie]

Buy it to enjoy it, the mega stones could just be a bonus

assuming champions lets you use any item like SD, there probably wont be much to grind anyway

[waxen dock]

I have protect

<@&663761167176433665>

[vernal shadow]

Seen a lot use terra normal Espeed

[real prairie]

that was more common when Chien-Pao was around

[solid frigate]

There are few Teras that works

Fairy - Allows better Matchup Against Scale Shot Dnite Mirrors and a General Better Defensive Tera for Dnite

Fighting - Specfically For Low Kick,good for extra Damage

[waxen dock]

Fighting doesnt resist dire claw

[solid frigate]

Forget that point anyway

But Fairy is my go to if you value on Mirror

[waxen dock]

i also tought about tera steel

and iron head

[solid frigate]

thats fine

[limpid lagoon]

i know that fighting/ground pairs good with ice, is medicham a good pick? what is a better pick if so? im just fighting my mate and i love ice types

[solid frigate]

its not that great

You can Use Annihilape

[limpid lagoon]

ive got a-ninetales. milotic and rotom f atm

[limpid lagoon]

oh i didnt even think of that good shout

[solid frigate]

Ninetales,good
Milotic,could work but need more effort
And Rotom Fan is a scam

[limpid lagoon]

nah as in the fridge

mb

[torn parrot]

Ayo guys

Za is really fun

[solid frigate]

frost is fine but since you have wate type then use Heat Form cuz its the second best

[torn parrot]

I’m gonna be a competitive za gamer

[limpid lagoon]

wouldnt i need a blizzard spammer?

[solid frigate]

hand eye coordination lets f-ing go

[solid frigate]

Alolan Ninetales is a blizzard Spammer+Support

[torn parrot]

It looks really fun

[limpid lagoon]

oh ive got her pure support should i make her hybrid?

[solid frigate]

i might get it this week just to play it on term break

[solid frigate]

lemme give you a set

[limpid lagoon]

thankyou

[solid frigate]

Ninetales-Alola @ Focus Sash
Ability: Snow Warning
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ground
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature

• Blizzard
• Tera Blast
• Aurora Veil
• Protect

[limpid lagoon]

cheers

that makes alot more sense

sorry for the 87 questions but what dyou reckon i should pair it up with?

[solid frigate]

is it just for casual battling?

[limpid lagoon]

yeah just running doubles w my twin

[solid frigate]

normally i would say do whatever you want but atp you can run something like this

Mausape Balance by Leonard Craft III
https://pokepast.es/cd37b86b979db51a

or if you want Ninetales you can run

Frankfurt 6 by Alex Arand,Originally by Emanuele Briganti
https://pokepast.es/498a1a5967851380

[limpid lagoon]

sick ty bro

[wispy spade]

are mold breaker pokemon immune to intimidate?

[tiny karma]

Ability: Mold Breaker

This Pokemon's moves and their effects ignore certain Abilities of other Pokemon. The Abilities that can be negated are Armor Tail, Aroma Veil, Aura Break, Battle Armor, Big Pecks, Bulletproof, Clear Body, Contrary, Damp, Dazzling, Disguise, Dry Skin, Earth Eater, Filter, Flash Fire, Flower Gift, Flower Veil, Fluffy, Friend Guard, Fur Coat, Good as Gold, Grass Pelt, Guard Dog, Heatproof, Heavy Metal, Hyper Cutter, Ice Face, Ice Scales, Illuminate, Immunity, Inner Focus, Insomnia, Keen Eye, Leaf Guard, Levitate, Light Metal, Lightning Rod, Limber, Magic Bounce, Magma Armor, Marvel Scale, Mind's Eye, Mirror Armor, Motor Drive, Multiscale, Oblivious, Overcoat, Own Tempo, Pastel Veil, Punk Rock, Purifying Salt, Queenly Majesty, Sand Veil, Sap Sipper, Shell Armor, Shield Dust, Simple, Snow Cloak, Solid Rock, Soundproof, Sticky Hold, Storm Drain, Sturdy, Suction Cups, Sweet Veil, Tangled Feet, Telepathy, Tera Shell, Thermal Exchange, Thick Fat, Unaware, Vital Spirit, Volt Absorb, Water Absorb, Water Bubble, Water Veil, Well-Baked Body, White Smoke, Wind Rider, Wonder Guard, and Wonder Skin. This affects every other Pokemon on the field, whether or not it is a target of this Pokemon's move, and whether or not their Ability is beneficial to this Pokemon.

Sableye version 4.28.4

[real prairie]

no

[wispy spade]

[stone trellis]

Firepon would be so great into Incin if that was the case.

[bold geode]

Nah not really
Incin still resists both Fire and Grass

[stone trellis]

You can make Firepon OHKO Incin in the sun if it's not intimidated beforehand.

[bold geode]

That's still a good amount of commitment

[stone trellis]

Fair, but it's also hilarious.

[ebon pivot]

This team look good? https://pokepast.es/b3b462b28a25b01c I have another version of it but its uncomplete

this is reg J btw

this is the uncomplete version https://pokepast.es/b98c6979ada9e7e1

[stone trellis]

The wrong things are Timid.

Just FYI, prioritizing Speed so much is going to fuck you over in certain situations.

[short quiver]

i warmed up to it aftet i got my mega ring

i wish you could customize your z ring in this game like spend pokecoins (or maybe mega shards actually that would be a neat idea) to make it a necklace at a jeweler or smthn

[ebon pivot]

wdym

speed is a good thing

[stone trellis]

Yes, but some of these things are so fast (especially with the Speed control from Tornadus) hat they can freely focus more on power.

Band Shifu is fine in terms of power, so it could honestly focus more on Speed.

[jade dust]

I know it's hard to tell without abilities and without actually playing the new megas in a VGC format but

Any notably good megas so far?

From the new ones or old ones that got buffed in move pool and such

[polar canyon]

Mega sableye got parting shot in za

That's kinda scary

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 302: Sableye-Mega

Types

Dark/Ghost

Abilities

Magic Bounce

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

50/85/125/85/115/20

Total

480

Base Species

Sableye

Sableye version 4.28.4

[real prairie]

Loses prankster in mega though

[jade dust]

Except mega Sableye is dogshit

Parting shot is good for normal Sableye

[polar canyon]

Well it's a sableye buff

[jade dust]

A buff that doesn’t help its mega

[polar canyon]

I think we're gonna have to wait and see

I get the feeling mega skarmory might get sharpness but what good moves does it even have for that

I mean its feet turn into giant sets of knives

[short quiver]

i see we dont have a za trade channel yet

[primal saddle]

Would it be insane to use to mega evolving pokemon on one team ?
2*, i know you cant do 2 mega evolves per battle but to have 2 different options, would it be crazy?

[bold geode]

#trading_lza

[short quiver]

in legends za or in champions cuz in za you can mega evolve more than once

[short quiver]

oh am i just blind then

[bold geode]

Ye

[primal saddle]

i mean in VGC not za

[short quiver]

i think in 2016 you were allowed two mons to HOLD mega stones

right?

[primal saddle]

thats basically what im wondering lol

[short quiver]

im sure you’ll be allowed to have 2 hold mega stones again

but you are allowed to only mega evolve one of them so

[bold geode]

You can have two Pokemon with stones but you can only evolve one of them per game so sometimes depending on what megas you have it can actually hurt you a bit

[primal saddle]

Right, so i woud either want 1 mega holding pokemon or 2 where 1 is decent without an item and without mega evolving

or possibly 2 goals of team, like sun/room or tailroom

[bold geode]

Maybe though I think the latter might be a tiny bit harder to accomplish? Not sure tbh

[primal saddle]

yeah agreed, just curious what was common in last mega format

as i didnt play, thanks guys

[short quiver]

i know for a FACT im using mega dragalge in champions

and praying it keeps adaptability

[dense latch]

was there actually ever a cap on mega stones per team? i thought it was just not optimal to use more than two

big six had both mega kangaskhan and mega salamence

i imagine they weren't brought together often if at all

[foggy lodge]

Nope

You could use 6 stones I think

[short quiver]

i was lied to

[short quiver]

but why would you obviously

[foggy lodge]

When I was a kid I used a team where every mon had a Z move because I thought that was the point of the Z moves

[short quiver]

i mean

i wonder if we’ll get a ruleset like 2017-2019 vgc where we could use megas AND zmoves

[foggy lodge]

Very likely with ring thing from champions

We know first season is megas

Later they can do like only z moves, only dina, only tera

And then start fusing stuff

[short quiver]

imagine we get all the mechanics in one ruleset

IMAGINE THE CHAOS

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-hello-elmo-rise-elmo-hell-gif-3989603362345473118

[foggy lodge]

Tera fairy miraidon with primal groudon while whimsicott has nature power z move and you can dinamax your iron hands later in the match

[dense latch]

real

[foggy lodge]

Miraidon + primal groudon can be very real actually

[dense latch]

ground fairy will never not be insane

[short quiver]

i wonder if you could dynamax or tera your mega pokemon since they dont require them to hold anything

[foggy lodge]

Tho tbh

They should only let you use one gimmick per battle

[dense latch]

i doubt it

im pretty sure mega rayquaza couldn't use zmoves

[foggy lodge]

But maybe they are too crazy and let you use everything

[short quiver]

just imagine a dynamax mega 😭 how unfair would that be

[dense latch]

so there's that

[foggy lodge]

Yeah it couldn't

[short quiver]

evolving doesnt give hp but dynamaxing sure does

[foggy lodge]

Imagine KOing a tera dinamax mega mon

The world explodes from that burst of power lmao

[short quiver]

i think the opponent would have to instantly quit since they wasted all their resources at once

😑

[foggy lodge]

I still find weird the megas don't change their HP stats

Because previously it was very likely because of a limitation of the game

But now they can do that because Terapagos does it

[short quiver]

🤷‍♂️

i wonder if tera ever goes away if pagos will be reworked as a mega

[dense latch]

let the turtle die

[foggy lodge]

noooooooo

everyone thinking ogerpon and Terapagos would die because next gen won't have tera and being saved by champions

[short quiver]

i was just asking if tera went away would pagos get reworked to be a mega

[foggy lodge]

Nah

They will just let it die

[short quiver]

is this the lorax movie 🥀

https://tenor.com/view/let-it-die-gif-16851571680202593785

[short quiver]

i mean making it a mega would kinda kill it anyways since pagos likes having an item

[primal saddle]

https://pokepast.es/eee5f273853e3c32 rain/room mega mawile possible?

idk about basculegion as the rain setter because of trick room, also dont know about bulky pelipper with focus sash and some other things, but do you guys think a team like this is possible?

rain sweeper*

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 310: Manectric-Mega

Type

Electric

Abilities

Intimidate

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

70/75/80/135/80/135

Total

575

Base Species

Manectric

Sableye version 4.28.4

[foggy lodge]

LMAO welcome to the club mega manectric

[mighty stump]

I think its hard to advise on Megas formats considering we don’t have any idea what the format is even going to be like

No real point in considering it now

[short quiver]

i cant even trade in legends za yet aghhhhhh

[shadow wind]

Something feels…. Like home…

[short quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/i-think-i-miss-my-wife-gif-11815978239493048011

this is how that sentence felt

[jade dust]

I mean now with open team sheets, having 2 megas on your team makes it a guessing game for your opponent

On which are you gonna bring

[short quiver]

i mean even with CTS they wouldnt know which mon youd mega evolved if you have more than one mon who can

[jade dust]

Depends. If you see Salamance or Kanghaskan then yes obviously. Those need their mega to do anything

But Venusaur and Charizard

Can be played without mega

[short quiver]

i dont use any of the 4 i think id be safe

mawile my goat

i think i used absol and mawile in ORAS

[jade dust]

I miss mega Swampert

[mighty stump]

Well its still going to be matchup dependent, I wouldn’t say its entirely a guessing game. You’d be accounting for the possibilities anyways

[short quiver]

This is all assuming we keep open team sheet

[jade dust]

I don’t see why we would regress

Open team sheets is healthier for the game

No more gimmicky bullshit that only works in one game to catch you off guard

[mighty stump]

OTS for life

Healthiest would be to have both options

[jade dust]

How would you have both options

OTS should stay but what can be kept in secret is your evs

[mighty stump]

2 queues

Cause not everyone wants to play OTS

Japan plays CTS

So CTS queue is important for them to practice too, or anyone else competing in such

GCs as well

[jade dust]

I think online play is enough as CTS

If anything I wish they added OTP

And made it a must

[waxen dock]

Well buddy there aint reg h bo1 ingame now

So in needs to be somewhere as a practice for gc

Also where will you test your team before using it in the gc

[real prairie]

Morning

@mighty stump did you get an answer to your Q on Twitter?

[next stump]

i think in person play will continue to be OTS even in champions

the game exploded in popularity when it became mandatory

[mighty stump]

Naur

Unfort

Trying to dig for answers

I think my approach depends on how consistently ur gonna Mega right

So I could to some degree just prioritise the mega stats

I think ill review Wolfey’s World’s team to understand better the EV intents and matchup considerations

[real prairie]

Yeah, suppose we are in new territory with the potential of optional gimmicks at once, meaning there might not be as hard of a commitment into some megas

[mighty stump]

Im pretty sure the formats are mechanic centered so they pre-determine what mechanics you get to use

[real prairie]

I dunno, if I remember right the trailer showed mega and tera at the same time. Will be interesting to see.

[mighty stump]

If they allow Dynamax to co-exist with any other mechanic that would be a circus

Megas and Z-moves and Teras feel pretty tame together

[real prairie]

id imagine they will never be stackable

[mighty stump]

we pray

[real prairie]

and maybe it ends up limiting to Gigantamax

so not any pokemon could Dyna

[mighty stump]

Lets go Pulverising Pancake GMax Lax

[real prairie]

🤣

[real prairie]

Tera normal

[mighty stump]

ur right

[real prairie]

maybe the DLC for ZA gives us a mega snorlax too

[mighty stump]

Have you seen the leaked DLC list

[real prairie]

I haven't no

[mighty stump]

Would you want to

[real prairie]

Sure

[mighty stump]

ill DM

[real prairie]

ping it to me via DM

cheers

[molten oasis]

Finished my playthrough of ZA

Hella fun game

[waxen dock]

ofc ,why not?

[knotty mirage]

Is there a reason why double cart ladder seem's to be dead but BSS still have many people playing it

[foggy lodge]

Cuz almost no one that likes vgc plays reg J while most people that play BSS still play reg J

[knotty mirage]

Fair enough like 99% of BSS is japanese player

[next stump]

VGC in general now feels pretty dead on all ladders

It’s mostly just tournament players

[real prairie]

VGC Hype tends to peak when Pokemon fans are looking for something to tide them by, with the release of ZA, VGC is very much only being prioritised by people with a horse in the race so to speak

the "VGC Casuals" are all off playing ZA

[fluid fiber]

Anyone think any of the new megas have potential to be any good lol. Obv we dont know the abilities but still

[molten oasis]

Delphox Chandelure Starmie Dragonite, uhm

[molten oasis]

Excadrill

Drampa

Maybe dragalge

[rustic mountain]

lza hype train

vgc who?

[rigid crane]

Can someone explain how Ho-oh can learn earthquake?

[stone trellis]

130 Attack means it can probably slap those wings really hard.

So he just slams his wings into the ground so hard it causes an earthquake.

[molten oasis]

We need a new interesting format lol

[real prairie]

Whats the TLDR with Rio?

That's not the one who was accused of SA was it, I think not?

[real prairie]

If mega Floette is legal that could be interesting

[bold geode]

Real

[bold geode]

Wtf kind of creature am I looking at here

What creature have you shown me today

Honestly idk if I should be concerned or impressed by this posture

[molten oasis]

wtf

[polar canyon]

You know what might be fun

In lza they gave mega medicham and mawile extra stats to make up for the lack of ability

That leads to mega starmie having 140+ bst from mega instead of 100 and huge attack

Huge power mega starmie is coming

I think mega starmie is gonna actually be a beast

[lofty tartan]

This has been the assumption for like... weeks

[polar canyon]

Listen I'm late to the party

And didn't hear that assumption before

Can't blame me

[lofty tartan]

It's all over reddit and twitter. It's been talked about at length since release as well. So it's weird seeing someone like "you know what would be cool?" when it's been a talking point since stats were seen.

[polar canyon]

Guess what 2 apps I don't use

[bold geode]

Imma blame you
Got em

I bet you use WhatsApp

[lofty tartan]

Yelp.

[bold geode]

Is WhatsApp even a thing still

[lofty tartan]

I dunno. Whenever someone wanted to add me to WhatsApp, it was always extremely shady.

[polar canyon]

It's common in some countries

[bold geode]

Ah yes, add me to WhatsApp, plz steal my identity

[lofty tartan]

I'm gonna move into your house and now it's mine.

[bold geode]

I'm gonna set you up and become you, yippee

[polar canyon]

Pretty sure they try to make a big deal about how all messages are encrypted

Like that's not the standard

[bold geode]

I am now you, you are no longer you, you are now strange person with no existence on record

[lofty tartan]

Oh no I mean shady people for shady reasons with shady dealings.

[bold geode]

Remember when everyone was talking about Bluesky

[lofty tartan]

Dude you wanna be me for tomorrow? I have to do an interview with Channel 5 News and I'm really just wanting to go off and do my job

[polar canyon]

Wouldn't it be cool if they gave mega mawile something like huge power

[bold geode]

Imma go up there and create that old vine

[lofty tartan]

Just be the turtles kid.

[bold geode]

Real

[polar canyon]

I am pretty hyped to see starmie become like really good in competitive because I think that thing is hilarious

[bold geode]

Anyways yeah I never went to Bluesky so I never saw how many people ACTUALLY went over there but judging from how active VGC Twitter is imma guess none

[polar canyon]

Funniest thing so far in za was clicking liquidation and seeing giant starmie start kicking the shit out of opponents

[lofty tartan]

Yeah bluesky is sort of a joke

I mean I don't seriously peruse Twitter or anything.

But I see posts from it cross-posted to other things

[polar canyon]

Bluesky is waiting to swoop in if twitter ever gets too ruined

You can see what they're going for because twitter has been teetering on that edge for a while

[lofty tartan]

So long as people want echo chambers and Twitter has money, then it's not going to be swooped-in on anytime soon

People were saying Bluesky was gonna overtake twitter the minute it happened, and we're all still waiting

https://tenor.com/view/what-huh-confused-john-travolta-gif-16946746

[polar canyon]

I don't think it's ever gonna fall because there's always gonna be the kind of people who support mr. guy who's making it worse

But like I respect the idea of waiting to swoop in

[bold geode]

Yeah
I think it's fine

Idt Twitter is going anywhere soon

[polar canyon]

I see artists moving and leaving twitter because of the ai stuff but that's it

Mostly artists really migrating

[cyan smelt]

man i need to play vgc again

[waxen dock]

When do travel awards get announced?

For worlds

[real prairie]

When is next GC? need something to prep for

[waxen dock]

I would guess its in 2 weeks

[real prairie]

Would expect sign ups soon then if thats true

[waxen dock]

Maybe im wrong

[real prairie]

Nah you look on the money

November

<@&727593710816067594> Might be worth pinning this:

https://victoryroad.pro/2026-season-calendar/

[waxen dock]

The november gc is in november who thought?

[real prairie]

I didn't know when it was so "November" is an update for me haha

Wrong chat?

[steep charm]

?

[waxen dock]

Oh

So i can tell you that the other gcs are in january and may

[real prairie]

feels like #shiny_hunters

as opposed to Comp

[waxen dock]

And these gcs will be grand challenges

So no japanese players

[real prairie]

Thanks Ido

[gentle crag]

averagejack_yt has given 1 Gen Rep to ido1500

[real prairie]

Well none earning points, some still play for the pratice

[waxen dock]

Yes

Idk if there will be global challenges ,i would guess there will be ones

[knotty mirage]

For koraidon speed boosting move which one is better to use flame charge or scale shot ?

[steep charm]

Flame Shot

[knotty mirage]

[waxen dock]

Flame charge

[knotty mirage]

Is scale shot really that bad ?

[waxen dock]

Cuz with scale shot you need loaded dice and then you do much less damage cuz of intim and no lorb

[knotty mirage]

Ah yeah fair enough

[real prairie]

also no sun boosted damage

[waxen dock]

Scale charge

[solid frigate]

Also the Bulk on Dnite is better than Koraidon since both sets are in different formats which can exploit scale shot without too much of a Hassle

[summer shore]

Pingathan

[real prairie]

@chrome knot

[chrome knot]

[cyan smelt]

randbats is good, it forces me to think about what my moves are and focus on preserving mons etc

[real prairie]

Hey Kal

[real prairie]

I can't see this Emoji without thinking its you now 🤣

[cyan smelt]

Hi what's happening

I love set up mons in randbats but I don't think set up would work as much in reg h because of haze

[waxen dock]

https://pokepast.es/61250c07ec2d9994 should i use it in the gc?

[next stump]

what

are you talking ZA

[bold geode]

Think that team is for SV VGC
Imagine

[next stump]

they deleted their messages hahaha

[bold geode]

Oh i see

Imma try to take some ZA pictures today with stuff but I'm not good at photography

[real prairie]

It's so sad

[molten oasis]

Why do people suck

[bold geode]

I plz ask that we don't talk about this in this server

[real prairie]

Ok

[bold geode]

I do understand what happened and I agree but that topic isn't appropriate for the server

[real prairie]

I feel it should be discussed so people correct their behaviour and it's competitive related, but I won't fight that point as I understand the rules.

That's that. Won't say anymore

Apologies

[bold geode]

I do somewhat agree to this, but it's one of those things where like
Do we really wanna talk about that where innocent 13 year olds can see?

[real prairie]

Yeah as I said I understand

[bold geode]

Like I get where you're coming from entirely, but it's just the fact that the topic is well
It's the topic
Appreciate understanding

[real prairie]

I forget sometimes it's not an adult only server

Specific apologies to the younglings ♥️

[next stump]

anyone here playing in Lille this weekend?

[cyan smelt]

i notice in randbats i make a lot of stupid decisions

so i probably do that in vgc too

[fiery tinsel]

[short quiver]

why is the alpha mawile in area 17 😭

[dense latch]

wild zone 17

[short quiver]

yes

[dense latch]

https://tenor.com/view/100-yard-stare-1000-yard-stare-stare-staring-staring-meme-gif-18404030142962634873

wait lmao im not correcting you im just getting flashbacks of that hellhole

[short quiver]

i just want the alpha mawile and these fucking lions keep earth powering me

[dense latch]

skarmory took me so long to get

[bold geode]

I used Surf on the lions and they still got me 5 times

[short quiver]

help. the mawile wont respawn

ive tried resetting the time 4 times already

i just want an alpha mawile 😔

I GOT THE ALPHA MAWILE

[cyan smelt]

i keep losing in randbats, maybe i'm not cut out for pvp

[cyan smelt]

and they land all their stone edges

[short quiver]

i love mawile bro im just clearing the game with her

[astral kelp]

wtf is happening with the goatwtf is happening with the goat

D:

jesus christ

YEA

[short quiver]

what is the context behind this

[atomic mural]

newest wolfe video

[short quiver]

WOLFE POSTED?

😄

immediately opens youtube

[atomic mural]

its not like that kind of video

[shadow wind]

I just OHKO'd a +3 Zamazenta with a physical move, I didn't think this was possible

[short quiver]

i know im watching it right now

[molten oasis]

Don’t talk about this here please and thank you

[short quiver]

what move and with what pokemon

[astral kelp]

Yeahhhh

[astral kelp]

Yeah that's fair

Tbf 13 year olds will see it anyways but I get that it's not appropriate for this server which is why I gave no context lol

[real prairie]

I was supposed to, couldn't afford the accomodation 😭

[short quiver]

im enjoying the ZA ranked more than i expected

pro tip for anyone participating: make sure to have an ice type move somewhere

[knotty mirage]

Just wondering do you starting to push on ranked after you already beaten the games ?

[short quiver]

yeah

[knotty mirage]

Ah damn okay i really want to get the greninjanite but i'm still at rank V on storymode

[short quiver]

i mean you can do ranked rn it sets all your pokemon to level 50

i just wanted to have my set team first which i cant even complete til post game

[knotty mirage]

With my current team don't think i can even win a match yet

[short quiver]

im running Mawile Delphox Dragalge

[knotty mirage]

I really wish i can bring my SV pokemon

[short quiver]

😑

[short quiver]

i can get an alpha dragalge right?

[mighty stump]

I used my story team to Rank A lol

[knotty mirage]

Brub what did you use tho ?

[mighty stump]

Not hypertrained

Mot EV trained

[knotty mirage]

Damn

[mighty stump]

Just megas and moves

[knotty mirage]

Welp i choose totodile tho

[short quiver]

im not even using my starter. does that make me a bad person?

im trying to catch all the mons in area 20 so theres a chance an alpha dragalge will spawn

[real prairie]

https://youtu.be/z04deJQZ-Bs?si=Y48eo2sxUPUUN-n0

[short quiver]

they meant v in story not in the ranked system

[mighty stump]

Honestly you dont even need to “win” to clinb

[real prairie]

yeah this video is a guide to that, to get the Greninja mega stone in low level story mode

[short quiver]

no but winning gives a lot of points if you do

HELL YEAH I GOT AN ALPHA SKRELP

[knotty mirage]

Alright thanks so at least push into rank E first on the story

[short quiver]

im now trying to reset for an alpha fennekin in area 18

its not going very well

[short quiver]

i have achieved my goal. my mawile, dragalge, delphox, and lopunny (temporary team member while i hunt an alpha helioptile/heliolisk) are all alpha 👍🏻

[next stump]

sorry to hear that 😦 same happened to me for vegas

[real prairie]

everything else was fine, cost of accomodation for 2 nights was equivalent to $600

[real prairie]

Do alpha pokemon have a bigger hitbox?

[short quiver]

probably 🤷‍♂️

i imagine a bigger pokemon would have a bigger hitbox

[real prairie]

maybe its meta to not use them haha but they are really cool

[short quiver]

idk its more of a flex

i might actually keep the lopunny tho alpha mega lopunny quick attack does silly damage

and after my team is all alphas im gonna use those alphas to catch a shalpha of the same pokemon 👍🏻

which means i gotta go back to wild area 17

https://tenor.com/view/war-1000-yard-stare-gif-10147302364842942579

[real prairie]

alpha's aside from being bigger just guarantee 3x perfect IVs

so assume it has perfect Atk

[short quiver]

it does

i completed the main story i have access to the judge feature

[real prairie]

Im looking forward to eventually getting the game

[short quiver]

im actively working on a shalpha mawile

but im scared to go back to area 17

https://tenor.com/view/war-1000-yard-stare-gif-10147302364842942579

[waxen dock]

What accomadation?

[real prairie]

Well i don't live in France, so a hotel or hostel lol

[waxen dock]

But i guess you do have other regionals in your country

[real prairie]

only 1, which is in January

[waxen dock]

Birmingham?

So dont you also have euic?

Or london is just too far from you

[real prairie]

Yeah also have EUIC if i can get in

entry usually sells out for EUIC in under an hour

so i have to ensure i have the funds ready

[waxen dock]

when ypu think about it

qualifying for worlds for seniors and juniors in japan isnt that hard compared like in tpci regions

its just doing top 120 in gc which is pretty easy and then doing top 64 which is like doing top 16 in one of the global challenges

[real prairie]

not sure its easier, competition is steeper, but its certainly more cost effective

[stone trellis]

I AM SO BACK
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regj-2467916847

Also, Lorb Mirai sucks fat booty cheeks.

[hallow nova]

Hey would this be the channel to ask how to get into competitive pokemon. I have been a fan for many years now but finally I want to start getting into vgc and was wondering where to start

[next stump]

this is the perfect channel for that!

[hallow nova]

So to my knowledge I was told to pick up a rental team and start practicing on ladder but I don't know what is good or what my playstyle is

[next stump]

You’re coming in at a little bit of a weird time because we are basically at the end of scarlet and violet’s lifespan and transitioning to a new game pretty soon

but for now, the ruleset we are playing with is called “Regulation H” which bans all paradox and legendary pokemon

You are right that you should start with a rental, so Id find a youtube video or an online post of a team for Regulation H

[hallow nova]

I know its a bit of an odd time but I still want to learn. Not excepting to get crazy good in a year but thought I would start to understand how to build a team and different strategies

Should I play on showdown or SV? Is there much of a difference?

[waxen dock]

Yeah thats a good idea, fina a team that you like and use it

[waxen dock]

Showdown

[next stump]

You should definitely play on Showdown to start since it allows you to play games very quickly since you can skip actually building the team

[waxen dock]

Also cuz no reg h in game

[next stump]

And we’re also in a spot currently where the in game ladder and the ruleset you see in tournaments do not line up

[waxen dock]

Also that

But i think the main reason is that showdown is more beginner friendly

[hallow nova]

Okay awesome thanks yall

[next stump]

Are you looking to eventually attend in person events?

[short quiver]

hey chat do we have any records of movesets Mawile would run when mawile was ever played

id specifically like to know if i keep crunch or nah

ive only really needed it for froslass and chandelure who i can nuke with iron head and thunder punch respectively anyways

and if i use an alpha mawile (which i am anyways) it gives me access to stone efge

[shadow wind]

Is this for ZA battles?

[stone trellis]

My guesses would be Iron Head, Play Rough (if it gets that), Crunch or some other form of coverage and Protect.

[short quiver]

yes

[shadow wind]

🥀

[stone trellis]

Does it learn SD?

And does SD work the same way in Z-A?

[shadow wind]

Aren’t ZA battles just Xenoblade

[short quiver]

basically 😭

[short quiver]

yes

[short quiver]

no

[shadow wind]

Wait why are you asking for comp advice here

#lza_competitive

[short quiver]

ive just been running iron head play rough crunch and ice punch

[short quiver]

its not comp advice im asking what moves mawile ran in vgc in previous years

[shadow wind]

But why would that matter in ZA

[short quiver]

am i not allowed to ask a question damn 😔

[shadow wind]

As far as I know you can’t transfer mons out of ZA

[short quiver]

you cant

[shadow wind]

I’m just curious

Cause wouldn’t you want the best set for ZA comp in ZA?

Not a VGC set that doesn’t work in the only way that your Mawile can work

I haven’t played ZA so I don’t know anything about it really but from my perspective it seems kinda pointless to try to build a Mawile based on VGC sets if you can only use it for ZA battles

[short quiver]

im not asking for za advice

im simply asking what moves it used in past years

[stone trellis]

Just the most consistent STAB, a coverage move/setup/support (if it learns any) and Protect, if I had to guess.

[shadow wind]

https://www.nimbasacitypost.com/2019/09/pokemon-vgc-world-championships.html?m=1

I use this a lot for looking at past generations

You’ll have to go into the specific year where megas were and search for mawiles but it’s the best I got

[stone trellis]

So 2014, 2015, 2016 and maybe 2019.

[shadow wind]

Might also depend on the formats that were allowed

[shadow wind]

Yeah that doesn’t surprise me at all

I feel like I’ve also seen people drop iron head for sd

[short quiver]

theres this one mf that had rock slide play rough sucker punch substitute

[shadow wind]

I mean substitute blocks intimidate and Talonflame was popular when Mawile would’ve seen usage as a mega

[short quiver]

and they used it in a TR team

[shadow wind]

Isn’t Mawile like 72 speed?

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 303: Mawile-Mega

Types

Steel/Fairy

Abilities

Huge Power

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

50/105/125/55/95/50

Total

480

Base Species

Mawile

Sableye version 4.28.4

[shadow wind]

Me when I don’t know my speeds

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 303: Mawile

Types

Steel/Fairy

Abilities

Hyper Cutter, Intimidate, Sheer Force (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

50/85/85/55/55/50

Total

380

Other Formes

Mawile-Mega

Sableye version 4.28.4

[shadow wind]

Wowza

[short quiver]

nope

[shadow wind]

Min maxed mega

[shadow wind]

There was zero need to reply twin look at the chat

[short quiver]

i read chat after i replied lmao

yeah no mawile is base 50

so very easy to slot in a tr team

also yes it was incredibly minmaxxed

[shadow wind]

Thing got +20 Atk and then +40 to each defense stat

That 50 hp is so trash though

Dusknoir moment

Dusknoir my beloved🥀

Why must you only have 45 hp

[short quiver]

and it gained huge power on top of that 20 attack

[shadow wind]

Yeah

Strongest huge power mon

[short quiver]

being a steel fairy with with decent bulk it should be fine

isnt medicham like base 80 attack or sm shit 😭

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 308: Medicham-Mega

Types

Fighting/Psychic

Abilities

Pure Power

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

60/100/85/80/85/100

Total

510

Base Species

Medicham

Sableye version 4.28.4

[short quiver]

oh

[shadow wind]

And Starmie is also 100

Mega mawile got that favouritism

[short quiver]

i love mawile its so fucking cool

[real prairie]

only partially related to Comp, but what does everyone do when they need to get motivated?

[short quiver]

i dont

[next stump]

for work or life

[real prairie]

Not yet and never backwards. So it Could be possible to transfer to Champions

[short quiver]

yeah if i need motivation for something i usually just dont end up doing it i wait for motivation to find me

[shadow wind]

I don’t quite understand how transferring to champions is gonna work but we’ll let them cook

[shadow wind]

Watch alpha male edits 🐺🐺🐺

[real prairie]

I guess both, but work deadlines kind of make me get the work done in time to not get bitched at.

My main factor is my YT i guess, ive recorded a playthrough of Emerald using only Ludicolo and now ive sat on it a month because I CBA to edit it and then get angry at myself my YT has stagnated.

[shadow wind]

If I’m being honest though motivation isn’t something you can force, discipline is something you can force

[next stump]

I like to treat myself after doing something I “have” to do

[real prairie]

yeah its how i usually work too, but because of that I went 4 years without posting on YT at one point. The pain it causes me every time i think where the channel could be now if i was consistent those 4 years

[next stump]

Like an hour or two of grading assignments = watching a TV show/movie or playing a game

or sometimes food because I loveeeee food

[shadow wind]

My motivation for VGC right now is at an all time low but I also don’t feel like I need to play it, so I haven’t touched it seriously it close to a month now. The only thing I can really relate it to right now in my life is swimming, I go swimming almost every day because I need to for my job. I’m not motivated to swim it’s just something I need to do

[real prairie]

I forget you are a teacher lol

[next stump]

https://tenor.com/view/teacher-havoc-i-am-gonna-cause-havoc-jaden-jaden-williams-gif-10728105821882407594

[real prairie]

guess we are in a similar boat, and yes thats a water/swim pun

[shadow wind]

Lowkey train yourself like a dog, it sounds stupid but it works for a reason

[real prairie]

I think maybe the idea of putting in so much effort to make the video perfect because of how much i enjoyed the playthrough for it to get 20 views is MASSIVELY putting me off

[shadow wind]

You gotta do something and then "reward" yourself like Dillon was saying

[shadow wind]

Yeah that's the hard part about youtube

From my 3 serious videos I've ever made there is always a fear they will flop and my effort will be for nothing

Which is why the people that are successful on youtube just keep posting videos trying to change a few things every time and seeing what works

But the really successful ones are just crazy and love making videos

What's the quote? If a person makes 1 youtube video on one game they love the game but if they make 100 youtube videos on different games they just love youtube

Or something like that I don't really know

[real prairie]

I think i prefer to stream than edit videos but struggle with it because i can't make head or tail of Twitch (its soo damn complicated) aswell as i don't really watch streams so its harder to relate to the content and see the appeal of people watching me.

[real prairie]

i get the idea

[shadow wind]

Also Jack you don't have your youtube linked to your discord, why not?

[real prairie]

yeah they say the key to Youtube is simply consistency, let the content grow over time, but feel its so competitive now and im such a perfectionist with my edits its jarring

[real prairie]

Probably should, but im not really present anywhere in discord other than in here haha

[shadow wind]

Valid

[shadow wind]

The current youtube meta is terrible for smaller creators

It rewards 1 big video every like 2 months

Let's plays have died

Oh hey I hit 100 subs

I haven't posted in 3 years 💀

Jesus I sound like an idiot in these

Thank goodness I haven't gotten youtube inspiration again

[real prairie]

added anyway, because any exposure is good exposure when you are a newb

[shadow wind]

Nice

Now realizing I only made guide content, no wonder those videos did well. They didn't need any prior following

I had big video ideas a couple years back but then got super burnt out

2 years ago I made a script for a video documentary that was 16000 words but then never recorded the video

And maybe I'll go back to it at some point now that my creative writing has evolved a bit but who knows

But that does just go to show that motivation can only carry you so far

[real prairie]

Well, if you find yourself back in the game, maybe we collab on something we never edit and dont upload together

Maybe i just start with the thumbnail

[shadow wind]

Wow I just went through everyone I was subscribed to and 90% of them don't even upload anymore

This is the sad reality of youtube right now

Feels like you need to put 100+ hours in, an original idea and amazing editing to even have a chance

And it's weird because the videos I really like to watch are just people being themselves while having some gameplay in the back

For some reason looking back on all the youtube stuff makes me kinda want to revisit it

Which I know is a terrible idea

[real prairie]

Or just be MAD attractive, like Leah Halton, 1 video made her famous 🤣

[real prairie]

disagree, no harm in it

my issue lies with expecting to succeed, if i did it for fun id probably be alright

but i don't do anything for fun really

[shadow wind]

See that's where I'm at with it

[real prairie]

theres always an end goal

[shadow wind]

I made my past videos because I wanted to help people with them being guides and all

I just feel like I have nothing to offer outside of information

[foggy lodge]

Make VGC content

[shadow wind]

VGC is dead right now

[foggy lodge]

Do really well at a GC and them promote yourself on twitter with a video of your run or smth

[shadow wind]

And I don't enter tournaments so the market isn't there

[foggy lodge]

Just win a GC basically gg

[shadow wind]

Hmm why didn't I think of this

If I were to actually make videos my mind always wanders to introspectives or video essays

But you never want to start off doing niche content unless you're in it for the long haul

[real prairie]

The real winners of YT make a channel like a year before something comes out talking about it, random hyootheticals, just so when it drops, they are the place with existing content on it.

Trainer tips made videos on Pokemon Go nearly 2 years before its release so when it dropped he was the "Go To" account.

The lads from Click have made a GTA6 channel making GTA5 content for now so when GTA6 drops they are the go to channel.

need to find a pre-emptive strike like that

[shadow wind]

Niche content will work if you build up like 3 years of consistent videos

[stone trellis]

Me personally, I just want to do a vid on a hard as hell Kirby challenge I made up with some friends.

[foggy lodge]

Why do almost all toy story movies have a Buzz Lightyear going through an identity crisis