competitive_discussion

[real prairie]

tbf ludicolo could have been my speed control, it gets icy wind

but i prefer Encore

[cyan smelt]

encore good because people love faking out arch

[real prairie]

its great for CTS too because people love to protect

[cyan smelt]

oh ofc

[real prairie]

Ill often lead without rain to threaten a fake out and switch in Politoed turn 2 to get an encore lock lol

[cyan smelt]

good to encore lock set up mons too

[real prairie]

yep

just got to still remember to take them out before the end of the encore, ive made that mistake 1 too many times lol

[cyan smelt]

your team would otherwise struggle with dozo as well

[real prairie]

yeah, Dozo still not a great match up in OTS

[cyan smelt]

i hate dozo

[real prairie]

I can't tell you how much i love pickpocket though

[cyan smelt]

funny ability

unless you steal something bad like specs from gholdengo

[real prairie]

Get hit by a sneasler CC, proct sash, steal sneasler sash, Ohko sneasler in return with partner

[cyan smelt]

steal incin's sitrus

[real prairie]

stealing choice scarfs from mons is funny AF

"Sorry, were you trying to be fast"

[cyan smelt]

stealing AV, oh, were you trying to be bulky?

[edgy mauve]

Is falinks competively viable?

[solid frigate]

Not even close compare to Sneasler and Ape

[edgy mauve]

This is so sad

[edgy mauve]

What do they have that the falinks doesn't have

[cyan smelt]

they have powerful signature moves, falinks gets koed before it can get set up

[edgy mauve]

😔

[solid frigate]

Also Gen 9 Powercreep

[edgy mauve]

Buff falinks 💔

[cyan smelt]

is drum beating worth it on rilla and what should i replace if so

[solid frigate]

Yes if you are running fast Rilla

[cyan smelt]

hm i might stick with glide, wood hammer and hhp then

[cyan smelt]

ugh i've lost 3 in a row with this team

[cyan smelt]

i'm having mixed results with it

i lost to the numel team, feels bad man

but this team is actually pretty good at dealing with archaludon rain

[verbal cedar]

Thinking of trying a paradox leaning team

[molten oasis]

True should have been 30

[verbal cedar]

Something like Whimsicott, Pinchurchin, Pelliper, Iron Hands, Iron Valiant, Roaring Moon?

[cyan smelt]

ugh it's reg j, you're gonna want two restricted pokemon

[knotty mirage]

Ah alright thanks for the info at least now i don't need to test it out myself because seeing my miraidon got ohkod by earth power gonna be painful

[verbal cedar]

oh I was under the impression that most regs don't use restricted

[cyan smelt]

the one on cart does

[verbal cedar]

I don't do battle stadium anyways

[knotty mirage]

I'm exclusively playing on cart ladder so yeah

[mighty totem]

i wanted to send a ss of it but i think the link works just as well as the photo

[solid frigate]

Which is true,but some regulations like Reg G,I and the current one J

Uses 1-2 Restricteds

I want to hear the overall team plan for this to know what you need

[mighty totem]

https://pokepast.es/c008e931c1f39ef7

[real prairie]

done that multiple times to Archaludon

and if i dont want to steal their item, ill knock it off instead

[mighty totem]

thats also what i thought tbh

i mean my team is revolving too much on supports

[solid frigate]

Indeedee would help your team at least in Hard TR

[mighty totem]

i tried indeedee but i lowkey am bad af with her, i cant even set up a trick room 😭

[verbal cedar]

Idea was Pinchurchin for terrain, so I guess Miraidon could work. Whimsicott for bulky tailwind pranskter. Pelipper for weather disruption, possible second tailwinder, could be Kyogre I guess. And the 3 paradox for big damage with ability and item boosts since they won't need booster energy except for Roaring Moon, who could be an Iron Jar(?) forget what Delibird one is called.

[solid frigate]

What’s the Moveset?

[solid frigate]

If it’s Miraidon and Kyogre then ummmmm

(Oh hello darkness my old friend)

[mighty totem]

eh i dont remember it tbh but i tried smt like bulky trick room psychic surge ability

it didnt work

[verbal cedar]

Yeah definitely not great legendary picks

[solid frigate]

Trick Room Follow Me,Helping Hand Dazzling Gleam

[cyan smelt]

i think i'm getting stuck in that singles mentality again, just because my team covers each others weaknesses well doesn't mean it's a good team

[mighty totem]

sure ill try that

[solid frigate]

I used it before and Miraidon is top 3

I pushed Miraidon Kyogre too much

[mighty totem]

but ngl sableye carries me a bit with maus, i actually like it, but i see it wont work in b03 rly, but in b01s where i tried it in sd actually pulled out few cool games

also the whimpsicott did pretty good

[verbal cedar]

kyogre with Water Spout and SpA/Spe focus with choice specs is pretty solid tho. Feels like cheating tbh, especially with water tera.

[solid frigate]

You mind I give you my team

[verbal cedar]

Yeah you can if you want. I was just brainstorming. Gotta go make some catches if I'm doing this team anyways.

Good thing I got like 50 herba, so only real restriction atm is money, tho I got like 10k BBP and plenty of mats.

[mighty totem]

torrent u look like having much experience, so i would like to ask u 2 things: 1. are competitive official games all Bo3? 2nd may u help me build smt revolving abt my maus n sab? if u mind i can do few games and send u em to show u how i play em

the maus + sab thing im tryina pullin off in my bo1 games is simply giving prankster to maus first turn then give lagging tail to the strongest foe, possibly slow tho so my trick room can work out

[foggy lodge]

Psychic is better

Psychic from Indeedee is an underrated nuke

[mighty totem]

and still if maus would get in trick room, he still has pranksters, which gives him priority

and well thats it

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 876: Indeedee-F

Types

Psychic/Normal

Abilities

Own Tempo, Synchronize, Psychic Surge (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

70/55/65/95/105/85

Total

475

Base Species

Indeedee

Sableye version 4.28.4

[foggy lodge]

95 is respectable with stab + 1.3 from the terrain

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/5820226b91b7f8a0

Tested a few times already in multiple sessions and including one i posted in #rental_teams

[verbal cedar]

yeah only one I'd have to substitute would be Landorus, or I guess find one on the GTS.

very solid tho

[solid frigate]

1.Official Tournament are in Open team sheets Best of 3
2.Maus+Sableye is not really that good imo,in fact sableye is not that needed rn,i suggest you try Maushold+Annhilape as this combo if played right(which is Very Easy to do so) could just run away games.,but its fine if you want to hand your plays in here no problem,just wanna see how your skill level is on

[verbal cedar]

Whoa super defensive Roaring Moon, didn't notice that right away

[cyan smelt]

i think i need to just go back to mausape because my teambuilding sucks

[solid frigate]

its not that bulky but its enought to survive some hits,and it allows to outspeed the majority of everything with booster Speed besides maybe flutter Mane before you set up tailwind

or if you want a more turn off your brain mode you can just use Tornadus version in #rental_teams

[verbal cedar]

Nah, think I'll use this as a guide though.

I like to try on my own gumption even if it is a failure lol

[solid frigate]

tbf i kinda just play turn off the brain mode to not think too much but if thats gonna work for you i won't stop you

[verbal cedar]

Think I wanna lean a little more into the electric terrain a bit. Maybe try something with Alolan Raichu and more future types like Iron Hands for fake out.

[real prairie]

You are welcome to run my team with me this GC, could do with a second set of eyes testing it before a regional (assuming i even get to a Reg H regional)

[mighty totem]

skill level is low 🙏 i started yesterday night

ill try annihilape

[solid frigate]

i think you probably have to stick towards more basic way to use Electric Terrain,Like Boosting Quark Drive Mons,Act as a defensive utility for against Sleep Moves.etc

Since its more easier to do this rather than do more stuff without basics as a beginner

[cyan smelt]

i should just run your team jack since i can't teambuild for shit

[verbal cedar]

for sure, but it also gives Alola Raichu a good speed boost and he's also a good SpA glass cannon. Like I said, I might have to sacrifice or cut something out in the end to make it more viable, but I'm just trying to string together something with synergy.

[real prairie]

up to you mate, also happy to help you team build if you want, not that im brilliant or anything but 2 minds better than 1 and all that

[cyan smelt]

well i'll play 50 games with this team with pasrs and see what i need to fix

[foggy lodge]

You can just run Oliver Eskolin's team

He used Sableye with pop bomb wide lens Maushold

[waxen dock]

there is the gc which is official but is still bo1

[solid frigate]

if you have Miraidon you don't need it (Well at least for beginners cuz its actually a more easier mon to use)

Mostly Because,Miraidon had new items to use. and as for Reg I-J,Miraidon Synergy with Future Paradox Mon is lower than in Regulation G,so with this logic,its honestly prefer to have synergy defensively than use it offensively for Miraidon teams imo

[foggy lodge]

https://pokepast.es/459a4df6520c76d7

[mighty totem]

ay didnt know that

[solid frigate]

yes its a thing,i only referenced in person tournaments,Victory Road Tournaments or limitless tournaments

But GC is mostly that

[mighty totem]

thanks

now ill try to build smt again

possibly better this time

more then building smt new ill try to fix everything's wrong with mine rn

[solid frigate]

If you want the spreads or any movesets you can ask @foggy lodge

[cyan smelt]

Seems like no matter what I try I struggle with it and I can't team build for shit

I just want to go back to rilla sneasler gambit prim electabuzz whatever the 6th one was

[solid frigate]

Dnite?

[cyan smelt]

I think it was dragapult

[solid frigate]

i feel like dnite probably can slot in no?

[cyan smelt]

Yeah

[real prairie]

Let me know if you want to sit down and teambuild over the next couple days, im happy to help

[cyan smelt]

Ok sounds good I desperately need some help

Thanks

[real prairie]

pinged you a friend request

[cyan smelt]

I don't think the team is bad, I think it needs some tweaks

And I think I'm choosing the wrong leads a lot of the time

[dapper arch]

Is red card useful in a multi battle

[solid frigate]

Situational

[dapper arch]

Ok, thanks

[real prairie]

working out the lines into each team is something that takes time

I found building with 4 and slowly adding 5th and 6th based on your MUs is a good way to build

[stone trellis]

That's a good piece of advice, actually.

I could remove Landorus and Whimsicott from my team.

My CIR win rate (52%) is way, way worse than my CSR one (somewhere in the high 70s).

[real prairie]

Why do you seem that shocked 🤣

[stone trellis]

I usually start with one singular Pokemon and then build everything else around it instead of four.

[waxen dock]

i hope i can get the travel award

[real prairie]

can't play with 1

[stone trellis]

You know what I mean.

[real prairie]

ive probably got something like 400 games with a 4 mon team working out my 5th and 6th lol

[real prairie]

yeah, focal point of the team

[waxen dock]

gc in 3 days

hope i get points

[stone trellis]

I don't have time, so I won't participate.

Good luck.

[waxen dock]

its 3 days

[stone trellis]

I have school and my mom will skin me alive if she catches me using the Switch on any day outside of Friday, Saturday or Sunday.

[waxen dock]

but it is on that time

its on friday saturday and sunday

but i dont have school in any of these days so idk if i should do the battles in morning

[stone trellis]

I need to have a team ready by then.

[stone trellis]

I kind of can't do that if:

1. I'm not allowed to even use the device where you do that stuff
2. I have no idea what the fuck my team should be

[real prairie]

Cut it too close https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2452453000

[real prairie]

If you can figure out your team ill build it for you and trade it to you

[stone trellis]

Again, I don't even have the slightest bit of a vision.

[real prairie]

yeah thats fine haha just thought id offer

[stone trellis]

I don't play Reg H, I don't know anything beyond the bare basics of the format.

If you could help me build something, that'd be stellar.

[waxen dock]

what archetype?

[stone trellis]

Rain's objectively the strongest from what I know and I like Water types, so rain it is.

Could use either Pelipper or Politoed, doesn't matter to me.

[foggy lodge]

https://youtube.com/shorts/0gqjLheDhno?si=WNpH2itrRfheEXXG

[bold geode]

If you don't have the time to participate I just wouldn't

[stone trellis]

I have the time to participate, I lack the time to prepare.

[foggy lodge]

I mean

I think nobody has time to prep the GC from scratch rn

We are 3 days away from it lol

[real prairie]

Sure just let me know what you need

Alternatively you are welcome to run my team 🤣

[pliant kelp]

Friendly reminder: Today is the last day of the season. So if you are trying to get masterball tier NOW is the time before it ends!

[stone trellis]

What's the team?

[summer shore]

A dollar a monke

[real prairie]

https://pokepast.es/f682052a8c143f35

[pulsar cloak]

Oml I'm gonna have to have my monthly dose of reg J ladder tomorrow

[real prairie]

Hope tomorrow is end of reg J

Would love to be able to practice for regionals on cart

Much easier to stream 🤣

[bold geode]

Hello there Shiro

[summer shore]

Hello

[bold geode]

How ya doin

[bold geode]

Nah it ain't sadly

[real prairie]

Eww

[spring forge]

Hello

[real prairie]

Hi

[spring forge]

I get a shinny Lucario can someone say me the IVs to up the ability the mature and the moveset please

[solid frigate]

You always max out the IVs no?

And I think someone here plays Lucario anyway

[spring forge]

Yes all the Pokémon i use are with perfevt IVs

[spring forge]

I Will use Lucario on Pokémon ZA and online Battles etc

[spring forge]

Hello ?

Someone can answer me please

[real prairie]

A note, once a Pokémon is on ZA it won't be able to be used anywhere else

[bold geode]

We literally cannot help with anything ZA related rn

[spring forge]

Not really bro

You can transfer to the Next games

You can't transfer to old games

But in the Next ones i can

[real prairie]

Well we don't know that for certain as they aren't out yet. But a word of warning

[spring forge]

Bro thats oficial go check

[real prairie]

If gen 10 ends up using a traditional battle format, it's likely you won't be able to send the mons to the new games

[spring forge]

And i doesn't really matter i have shinny Rayquaza Palkia Dialga Arceus Giratina Necrozma Groudon Kyogre Zygarde Latias and Latios Entei Moltres and 3 shinny Lucario 3 shinny Dragonite One shinny Charizard 2 shinny Greeninja shinny Garchomp etc

[spring forge]

I have more Legendary shinny but i dont remember all

And i have a lot of shinny but i dont remember all too

[real prairie]

Yeah alright.

Just giving you a word of warning incase you were attached to the lucario

[next stump]

mr tomas that’s very cool but not super relevant to the competitive battling channel

[spring forge]

Its confirmed bro you can transfer to the Next games but you can t tranfer to the old ones

[next stump]

legends ZA will not have traditional pokemon battling online like we focus on in this chat

[real prairie]

Okay mate

[spring forge]

Go check by your self

[real prairie]

God we hope not anyway 🤣 imagine za is the new competitive

I know we have had confirmation of champions but that would be very Pokémon

[spring forge]

I like the Battle stille of ZA

I think it Will BE better in comeptetive too

[next stump]

it won’t be in competitive battles

[spring forge]

Online Battles

[next stump]

it’s got its own online ladder which is cool but it won’t ever be used in a tournament or anything

which is what this chat is about

[spring forge]

Ik but i think this stile Will BE better in competive still

[spring forge]

But most of the people dont agree so

[next stump]

you’re entitled to your opinion 🙂

[spring forge]

It only be on online

[spring forge]

Dilon

Can you make me the best build to my Lucario

[spring forge]

I need to give it to a friend of mine

[next stump]

I only play VGC double battles

and something tells me that’s now what you’re aiming for

not**

[spring forge]

VGC is Pokémon cards ?

[next stump]

no, video game championships

double battles

like wolfey if you know him

[real prairie]

A build now for Lucario for VGC likely absolutely won't translate the same to upcoming ZA battle style

[real prairie]

Haha yeah we know of Wolfe

[hasty night]

Don't we get a new in game vgc rule set announcement tonight

[next stump]

no, it's the same as last month

[bold geode]

If the scheduling keeps up and we do have another SV format, it'll be at the end of next month

[hasty night]

Dang nvm then

Im just tried of reg j already

[left bobcat]

It’s time to get a J*b 😀

Already filled out my J*b application we’re all gonna do the same

[lofty tartan]

Why are you censoring job?

[bold geode]

There's a joke where employment is scary and job is a slur

[lofty tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[bold geode]

Honestly yeah such a scary word

Wish I could just find a sugar mama already

[lofty tartan]

I had a sugar momma until last week.

[bold geode]

Wha damn what happened

[lofty tartan]

I started making more than her :/

[bold geode]

Oh LMFAO

Bro my mind went straight to the worst

[lofty tartan]

She's like "now I know I'm getting a Kindle for Christmas"

[bold geode]

Bro my mind for some reason instantly went "fuck you got divorced?"

[lofty tartan]

Nah. Not hardly.

[bold geode]

Buy a Kindle and put it in a shoebox to fuck with her

[lofty tartan]

I put really small items in really large boxes, boxed several times, wrapped individually.

[bold geode]

Actually so my mom she would have a thing where she'd put smaller things into shoeboxes like that right
But a friend of mine one time didnt know that so she wrapped up Beats in a fuckin Hello Kitty box and he was so confused

[bold geode]

My mom every year torments me with little boxes

I never guess what's in them

She literally did that with my class ring

[lofty tartan]

Lol yeah gotta make em work for it

[summer shore]

Good ty hbu

[gentle crag]

shi.ro. has given 1 Gen Rep to dollarmonke

[bold geode]

Good ty

[gentle crag]

dollarmonke has given 1 Gen Rep to shi.ro.

[left bobcat]

Employment is scary

PLEASE NO MORE just use spore on me

[tight verge]

hi guys, may i know which is the best encore user also an attacker in single ranked battle now?
i m thinking of iron valiant, or any other better option?

[elder peak]

Anyone want to take an apprentice under their wing to mentor me for VGC? I want to get involved + love talking to people about the game!

[dapper crag]

Its not that hard

[elder peak]

Didn't say it was hard, just wanted to see if anyone wanted to help out? I am sure I'd learn much more from an experience player + make some new friends

[waxen dock]

just take a rental and hop on showdown with it

[dapper crag]

I’d be down to battle/help sometimes

[waxen dock]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1axlwmzPA49rYkqXh7zHvAtSP-TKbM0ijGYBPRflLSWw/edit?gid=1168048410#gid=1168048410

[dapper crag]

This is a very good starting point

[elder peak]

Perfect, thanks all!

[waxen dock]

just take a team with evs

did you find a team?

[elder peak]

I am at work at the moment, will look more in depth in about 2 hours

[spring forge]

Someone in this server who plays competitive on Pokémon Violet and other game can help me ?

[atomic creek]

can i still claim the season rewards if my online subscription expires?

[solid frigate]

you can't

[waxen dock]

why do you even need those rewards?

[dapper crag]

Looking for pokemon people

[real prairie]

AMEN

[real prairie]

shoes are expensive nowadays, kids would be gassed to get shoes haha

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/ludicolo-gif-25620373

JK

[solid frigate]

Never scroll Twitter For You page Again

[real prairie]

who is Zoarark even copying there? when terrain doesn't go up or drizzle doesn't proct its going to be obvious AF

[solid frigate]

Everywhere I go the duo just won’t let me go

[cyan smelt]

the algorithm knows you too well

[solid frigate]

I haven’t played that team for like 4 months already

[tiny karma]

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natdex

Transferred Pokémon

Included

Sableye version 4.28.4

Blaziken's moveset:

Physical Moves

Acrobatics, Aerial Ace, Assurance, Blaze Kick, Body Slam, Bounce, Brave Bird, Brick Break, Bulldoze, Close Combat, Counter, Crush Claw, Cut, Dig, Double Kick, Double-Edge, Dual Chop, Dynamic Punch, Earthquake, Facade, Feint, Fire Punch, Flame Charge, Flare Blitz, Fling, Focus Punch, Frustration, Fury Cutter, Giga Impact, Headbutt, Heat Crash, High Jump Kick, Knock Off, Last Resort, Low Kick, Low Sweep, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Natural Gift, Night Slash, Peck, Poison Jab, Power-Up Punch, Quick Attack, Return, Revenge, Reversal, Rock Slide, Rock Smash, Rock Tomb, Scratch, Secret Power, Seismic Toss, Shadow Claw, Sky Uppercut, Slash, Smelling Salts, Stone Edge, Strength, Superpower, Take Down, Temper Flare, Thief, Thunder Punch, U-turn, Upper Hand

Special Moves

Aura Sphere, Blast Burn, Echoed Voice, Ember, Fire Blast, Fire Pledge, Fire Spin, Flame Burst, Flamethrower, Focus Blast, Heat Wave, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Incinerate, Mud-Slap, Overheat, Round, Scorching Sands, Snore, Solar Beam, Swift, Tera Blast, Uproar, Vacuum Wave

Status Moves

Agility, Attract, Baton Pass, Bulk Up, Captivate, Coaching, Confide, Curse, Defog, Detect, Double Team, Endure, Feather Dance, Focus Energy, Growl, Helping Hand, Hone Claws, Laser Focus, Mimic, Mirror Move, Protect, Rest, Roar, Role Play, Sand Attack, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Swords Dance, Toxic, Will-O-Wisp, Work Up

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Blaziken.

Sableye version 4.28.4

[knotty mirage]

I have question can mirror coat affect dark type or it will be immune to it ?

[waxen dock]

i think it affects

[knotty mirage]

Oh okay so it work like endeavor

[tiny karma]

Move: Mirror Coat

Deals damage to the last opposing Pokemon to hit the user with a special attack this turn equal to twice the HP lost by the user from that attack. If the user did not lose HP from the attack, this move deals 1 HP of damage instead. If that opposing Pokemon's position is no longer in use and there is another opposing Pokemon on the field, the damage is done to it instead. Only the last hit of a multi-hit attack is counted. Fails if the user was not hit by an opposing Pokemon's special attack this turn.

Type

Psychic

Category

Special

Power

0

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

20 (32)

Priority

-5

Targets

Special targeting

Introduced

Generation 2

Move Flags

​

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.28.4

[dense latch]

dark types are immune

[dapper crag]

Didnt stop me from using mirror coat + counter deoxys Defense to sweep calyrex

[stone trellis]

I might be him.
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regj-2453126672

I did NOT expect that junk to kill Ice Rider.

220+ SpA Hadron Engine Tera Electric Miraidon Helping Hand Electro Drift vs. 252 HP / 196 SpD Calyrex-Ice in Electric Terrain: 226-266 (109.1 - 128.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Nevermind, it makes sense.

[real prairie]

Wild GC team https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2453128753-6c2imkkpixwi38s1m8t14ekm3cdmobqpw

mixed attacker tera ice covert cloak Donzo

[stone trellis]

This team is the shit, man.
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regj-2453136409

They just let Valiant sit there and enable Ice Rider.

They didn't even use their Fake Out pressure to force me into making dumb plays.

[bold geode]

I have to build my shit

[real prairie]

GL

[stone trellis]

I wish I could just clone your team and use it in the GC.

Why aren't rentals allowed?

[real prairie]

My team?

[stone trellis]

Yeah.

[real prairie]

Told you I can have it ready if you want it

[stone trellis]

I do.

[real prairie]

Then I'll sort it

[stone trellis]

The mirror will be legendary.

I'm going to register for Masters too.

[real prairie]

Jack Vs Paul game 1 🤣

@stone trellis use the paste and get some practice in for now

https://pokepast.es/f682052a8c143f35

Pointless going into GC not knowing your lines

[bold geode]

Y'all practice lines?

[real prairie]

Like the Charlie Sheen of VGC

God I hope you are old enough to get that joke

[bold geode]

No

At least idt I am

As a 23 year old man, I am a bit uncultured sometimes on actual TV shows

[molten oasis]

I love Sheen, from Jimmy Neutron

Idk who Charlie Sheen is tho

[real prairie]

Okay. you missed a golden age of the internet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znbR_VTDEtM

[real prairie]

long story short he had a drug problem and had a public meltdown claiming to be from outter space and have tigers blood running through his veins, and that is was "Winning"

so I was making a play on words with "Lines"

[stone trellis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2453237923-yfms9wu4rrf6weyewdscjwnhn0i9sk8pw

[stone trellis]

Why did he forfeit?

[spring forge]

Guys with item i put in my Lucario ?

[spring forge]

His speed and physical states are at their maximum

[stone trellis]

What are its moves?

[real prairie]

Lost his win con

[stone trellis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2453241110

[real prairie]

You can nuke both moms

[stone trellis]

Waiting for the game where I inevitably get humbled.

[real prairie]

Into obvious TR teams weavile and Incin are good leads, you can knock off and taunt or knock off and uturn or ice spinner and uturn

Also don't underestimate double muddy waters

[bold geode]

He just like me frfr

[real prairie]

If you see whims + typhlosion, lead poli and weavile, forces them into picking sunny day and means you can rain dance

Or you can earth power and ice spinner if you want the double KO

[stone trellis]

It happened.
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2453242860

I'm facing the Monterrey regional winner's team.

[real prairie]

Weather ball KOs vs Neutral hits, earth power is for being trapped in sun and resisted mons like arch

Turn 2 you should have swapped out to arch and side proct stamina with bullet seed as you were against 2 physical attackers

@stone trellis I'm about tonight if you want to run through some games together

[waxen dock]

i once tought bout using tera ice blast dozo

[waxen dock]

i can maybe help you build it

[stone trellis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2453246224

I'm him.

[stone trellis]

jack already offered to cover for that.

[stone trellis]

+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Tera Normal Sword of Ruin Arceus Extreme Speed vs. +1 252 HP / 124+ Def Cresselia: 164-195 (72.2 - 85.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

196+ Atk Life Orb Orichalcum Pulse Tera Fire Sword of Ruin Koraidon Flare Blitz vs. +1 252 HP / 124+ Def Cresselia in Sun: 195-230 (85.9 - 101.3%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO
Yeah, E-Seed Cress might be the shit.

The only thing it dies to is 252 Adamant Shifu Wicked Blow (if it doesn't go Tera Fairy).

116+ SpA Life Orb Sheer Force Tera Poison Landorus Sludge Bomb vs. 252 HP / 132 SpD Tera Fairy Cresselia: 182-218 (80.1 - 96%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

It also lives Specs EDrift/Draco.

I think it could work well as an Ursaluna partner.

[short quiver]

since when are you an arceus user

or are you the cresselia

[stone trellis]

I'm the Cresselia user.

I was looking at my notes for that MiraiNala + Cress team I'd made.

That shit is still straight flames, I cannot lie.

[short quiver]

😁

i like cresselia ive just never really had an opportunity to use her

[empty haven]

Heatproof or hospitality for trick room sinistcha

[stone trellis]

Hospitality.

Always.

[real prairie]

Politoed does so much damage haha

[stone trellis]

It is Specs Modest.

Using moves in the 90-100 BP range.

The concerning thing would be if it didn't do damage.

And why is Incin 0 Attack Brave with minimum Speed?

Instead of Relaxed or even Sassy?

[real prairie]

o you mean 0 attack investment. you confused me then as its 31 atk iv

its brave min speed because team struggles in TR, Incin being slower than most Ursaluna sets allows it to either Uturn or Knock off into the slot before getting hit

also i use it as a last mon pivot to take a hit and switch out with Uturn

u turn over parting shot because if i suspect a double protect i can side uturn into Arch and proct an extra stamina boost whilst brining in Ludicolo for a second fakeout

[short quiver]

kings rock doesnt stack with a move that already has a flinch chance correct

like rock slide or smthn

[lofty tartan]

Grants all attacking moves that do not already have a chance to flinch a 10% chance of causing each target to flinch. This chance is affected by Serene Grace and the rainbow created by Fire Pledge and Water Pledge. King's Rock does not activate Sheer Force, but Sheer Force removes the chance to flinch if the move already has an additional effect.```

[short quiver]

so before gen 4 it would stack with flinching moves

i bet gen 4 comp was fun 😭

[lofty tartan]

No, that's not what that says/means

Pre-Gen 4 it did not give every move a chance to flinch, including moves that already flinch. It's never given moves that already have a flinch chance an additional flinch chance, as far as I know.

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/King's_Rock

A snippet of the moves that it granted flinch chances to pre-Gen 5

[real prairie]

Kings rock population bomb might be the single evilest strategy ever conceived if you can find a way to boost the accuracy

[cyan smelt]

Hydrapple

Gravity sableye

[real prairie]

65.13% chance to flinch if it doesn't just kill anyway

[real prairie]

Was already thinking that

[cyan smelt]

Ring target to trick onto ghost types?

[real prairie]

Correct

[left bobcat]

I SEE

[real prairie]

It's so stupid but evil

[left bobcat]

Kinda like lagging tail grim

[real prairie]

Yeah kinda

[short quiver]

what about skill link cincinno

[real prairie]

Doesn't get pop bomb

[short quiver]

no but it does get other moves that hit multiple times

[real prairie]

Less hits = less flinch chance

[short quiver]

tail slap rock blast

[short quiver]

what is kings rocks flinch chance

statistically

isnt it like 20% or smthn

10

okay.

[real prairie]

10% for a single hit.
65.13% for 10 hits.
40.95% for 5 hits.
34.39% for 4 hits.

[short quiver]

so statistically if a skill link cincinno used lets say rock blast and it hits 4 times. across all 4 hits what is the statistical chance of a flinch

[short quiver]

😁

a 50/50 chance for a 50/50 chance

ill take that risk tbh

[shadow wind]

Gotta love statistics

[rustic mountain]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2453517658-rmq0sbwql56dsjv4ww4rbq5vde8yy48pw
think ill leave it at that for gc prep almost 75% wr 1600s

[cyan smelt]

Man bruxish is scary, that prevents sucker punches

[bold geode]

@rustic mountain locked in my GC team, time to play my government mandated Reg J games

[rustic mountain]

[rustic mountain]

its ok, didnt really do much for them there tho lol

yea ill prolly lock in my team inna bit

[cyan smelt]

Prio blocking is smart because typhlosion hates prio moves

[waxen dock]

gc tommorow

[upper zealot]

i replaced 3 mons played 2 practice games and just called it a day and locked it in

hopefully that doesn’t go bad

i think my replacements were good

[dapper crag]

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst

[knotty mirage]

Is there team that use koraidon and miraidon as the restricted that's viable ?

[cyan smelt]

wait so commander does activate even though weezing is on the field or what

[knotty mirage]

If the tatsu hold an ability shield yes

[waxen dock]

no

[cyan smelt]

is it worth building a team around chlorophyll whimsicott so i can use status moves on dark types?

[solid frigate]

Yes if you know how to use it well

[cyan smelt]

probably need practice for that, so far i've won 3 in a row with my balance team

[jade dust]

I always found it dumb that scald has higher burn chance than fire moves

Instead of nerfing its distribution they should had nerfed the burn chance to be 10%

Because now we have many water types without a special move option

[cyan smelt]

remember when it was only volcanion who had access to scald

[jade dust]

Wasn’t the move around before Volcanion existed?

Cuz Volcanion has its own signature scald

[cyan smelt]

yeah but in gen 9 only volcanion had it for a while i think

before dlc

[jade dust]

Very few get it now

Make an alternative then

[cyan smelt]

only like milotic

[jade dust]

An 85 special water move that is single target and no additional effect

100% accurate

Give that to Rotom wash while you’re at it

I fucking hate hydro pump

[cyan smelt]

how about use quiver dance tera water frosmoth with tera blast

won 4 in a row with my new team, granted it's only lower ladder but blaziken + gambit feels good

i wanna know why they've introduced stealth rocks and poison into vgc lol

glimmora and kleavor

won 5 in a row now, this never happens

[stone trellis]

Chip damage, breaking Focus Sash/Sturdy and punishing teams that like switching a lot.

And without Rapid Spin/Defog, you are basically defenseless.

[cyan smelt]

i seen a cool team with both kleavor and hisuian samurott

[cyan smelt]

just beat a muk smeargle team but lost to wolfey's perish trap

[knotty mirage]

It's mainly for single or bss tbh

And as far i can tell most of japanese player play bss so there's that

[cyan smelt]

this team is no good i'm losing too much

[bold geode]

Send replays either here or in DMs, I wanna see what's going on

Doesn't matter if they're wins or losses

[cyan smelt]

i'll send my losses

[bold geode]

You can send wins too

Might not get back to you right away but I wanna see exactly how we're losing

[cyan smelt]

i'm pretty sure it's because i have limited prio and slow tailwind

[bold geode]

Slow TW from what

[cyan smelt]

gliscor

[bold geode]

You actually believe in Gliscor?

[cyan smelt]

yeah

[bold geode]

Well I found one problem LMAO

[cyan smelt]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2453693073-gub4cky4gx1kd9y8hjhg4ljpd560lqtpw
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2453715637-03qh8ah8c1c17ebho5g0bsobp4ipiqfpw
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2453717329-ivgv8247jvuoi29s9pa0wscsbkcnh5epw

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2453749854-vjy60lmubgh2rwo5qrrl0n7nbbs8l2cpw

i'm liking coaching kingambit but idk about the rest of the team

pasrs says i'm struggling against a9, sneasler, rilla, torkoal and incin

[mental mason]

So I'm ~50/50 on the low ladder with the team below. I'm really liking leading A-Ninetails and Incineroar, sometimes switching one of them out for Gholdengo, Ursaluna, or Dragonite. I'm basically bringing some combination of those 5 every game. I'm struggling into Sun, Kingambit, and Sneasler atm. Is this just me missplaying or should I be bringing Rillaboom more?

https://pokepast.es/7ea06a64a7d997b5

[cyan smelt]

try tera water gholdengo with grassy seed

[mental mason]

That would help Gholdengo survive with Rillaboom, but doesn't really help with taking him out with my set i think.

[cyan smelt]

have you tried adding tailwind, a lot of sun teams rely on speed control

[mental mason]

Got icy wind to help there. Why i usually lead a-ninetails.

[cyan smelt]

yeah but for example whimsicott typhlosion does sunny day + tailwind

[stone trellis]

You can make Rillaboom 244 HP / 76 SpD so it lives +2 max Special Attack Timid Draco Meteor from Archaludon.

[rustic mountain]

team locked in last night, gl to every1 whose playing the gc 🫡

not sure how many games ill actually be able to play but should be able to atleast get 15-20

[solid frigate]

I am just too busy to do GC for this weekend

[rustic mountain]

yea i usually am too, have atleast later and then will try to squeeze as many as i can over the course of fri/sat. not able to really play until way later sunday wen itll be done

[molten oasis]

I’m too busy as well

Had a team ready but I’ll try next time

[solid frigate]

Atp I would just take it into Limitless Tournament cuz idk if there would be more

[molten oasis]

Maybe

[rustic mountain]

theyll def b more limitless tours

🤨

[left bobcat]

They see me rollinnnnnnnn

[real prairie]

Take it you didn't hear the audio? Lol

[solid frigate]

Rolling around at the speed of sound

[left bobcat]

I did but whenever I see something rolling something else comes to mind

[molten oasis]

The team was meant for bo1

Not bo3, although I think chomp a9 dengo is fine in both

[rustic mountain]

yea

i was mostly responding to torrent saying they were unsure if there would b more

[molten oasis]

Oh yeah there’s always stuff lol

[rustic mountain]

and its like we still have a month atm of irl reg h so yea there def will b

[molten oasis]

Probably one more gc I think

[rustic mountain]

drought month in november so tough to say then but yea

[molten oasis]

I am pretty comfy with dengo chomp a9 tho just need to really lock down on some others

[rustic mountain]

incin

[molten oasis]

Rilla sneasler feels so strong tho

That acro set is brutal at times

[molten oasis]

Maybe but ape makes me nervous with that trio

Rage fist is a move of all time

[rustic mountain]

dengo-chomp-a9-rilla-incin-sneasler seems solid. yea ape can b annoying for that

[molten oasis]

Hm, that is very close to what I have

The GC thing was arcanine

Incin would be nice for tr tho that’s getting annoying

[rustic mountain]

i guess harc could be ok too, incin is just incin tho lol

if u want more offense tho yea harc

[molten oasis]

Not harc

Arcanine, kanto arcanine

[rustic mountain]

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/7f7bb9494e00ceb4

GC thing

Which I’m not doing now

But I was gonna use that

[rustic mountain]

seems fine but idk bout regular arc lol

[molten oasis]

It was a GC gimmick that hit 1600

It did in fact work however is it not better than incin or harc

However I think I like the clam chomp a lot

[rustic mountain]

fair enough

[molten oasis]

LORB is good for damage but incin’s fckn annoying

[rustic mountain]

1600s is solid

[rustic mountain]

yea would definitely slow u down wen seems like chomp just wants to go right for offensive generally since no sd or anything

[molten oasis]

Yeah

adamant chomp which I was expecting to suck actually feels fine

[rustic mountain]

sub bright powder sand veil would b funny

[molten oasis]

It would be

I do think rock slide would be better than sub for a real team

Sub usually just caught people off guard

Also may go LORB dengo for that more immediate damage pressure

[bold geode]

I did ClAm Chomp for A9 actually LOL
Against Frankfurt team if they have like boosted Dengo and A9 for example, even if you tera, without ClAm nothing stops them from like
Clicking Icy Wind Shadow Ball into Chomp and nuking it

[molten oasis]

Oh really?

[bold geode]

Yeah
Lorb Chomp does good damage against Incin but like yeah speed drops are a bit annoying

[molten oasis]

Hm, ok

[bold geode]

Intimidate immunity is just a good bonus

[molten oasis]

Still felt strong

[bold geode]

But yeah like
Especially into Dengo A9 like
The whole reason why Garchomp is strong is cuz he can hit Dengo hard before it moves and that kinda falls apart when you can't

Which like
Reasoning sounds bad considering that like you basically have a useless item outside of that vs a damage boost all the time but like

1. A lot of teams have Incineroar so you have a decent amount of use there
2. A9 is like prominent as hell rn

[molten oasis]

Clam’s plenty useful imo

LORB is probably widely more useful but I like clam

Plus you ignore parting shot which is kinda big for plays imo

[scenic oriole]

Built my team on cart. Safe to say tailwind is my playstyle.

[bold geode]

Good luck in the GC chat

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/SeaWolfMikes/status/1973163184854016162

SeaWolfMikes (@SeaWolfMikes)

reg h showdown laddering is dumb one day i lose games i should have won to hax another day i hax opponents that should have beaten me i can’t defend Regulation HAX anymore

X · Sep 30, 2025, 11:08 PM

[lofty tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-man-no-man-no-gif-7347715096894588969

[bold geode]

Don't blame ya lol

These are really the only events I got time for else I'd probably sit out

[bold geode]

Also on this
Tbh I don't feel like I've really lost THAT MUCH to hax in this reg

Which tbf I'm never one to really blame hax but like
Still don't really feel like luck has been that involved

I feel like player performance has affected most of my games

Like if I win a game I shouldn't have won, it was cuz my opponent just started playing like utter dogshit or just threw

[lean ridge]

I faced Joseph ugarte in the gc and he missed a leaf storm and 2 sleep powders

I did not deserve to win whatsoever he outplayed me so hard

[foggy lodge]

I've lost way too many games in dire claw blizzard and scale shot misses

Eject pack Torkoal is also a disaster

Slow pivot that doesn't pivot when you need it to

[lean ridge]

im also running the pack torkoal

[foggy lodge]

Charizard also misses way too much

[lean ridge]

ive been enjoying guaranteed sun

[foggy lodge]

Had a game where Zard missed 2 air slash in a row

How did he do it i don't know

[lean ridge]

im running the marco team and replaced char with h-typhlosion for fakeout immunity + eruption

[foggy lodge]

Typhlosion wouldn't treat me like that

[lean ridge]

yeee

[foggy lodge]

But yeah I think this format has a lot of rng

Like yes you can be consistent and the good people are still good regardless of the rng and you can see it at tournaments but it doesn't make it less annoying

[lean ridge]

yea most of the moves im clicking rn are not 100% accurate so theres always the rng aspect

i gotta learn how to play around misses cuz im terrible at it rn

[bold geode]

LMFAAAAAOOOOOOOO

[foggy lodge]

If even Wolfey had to rely on a draco meteor muddy water kingdra to win I think it speaks a lot about the regulation

[bold geode]

@foggy lodge yeah that Haze Dnite do work in the Dozo MU alright

So y'know that early Reg H Dozo team that Cybertron featured

[foggy lodge]

The Pawmot version?

[bold geode]

Yeah

[wild knot]

https://twitter.com/joeypokeaim/status/1973770679989539277

Tempo | Pokeaim (@JoeyPokeaim)

X · Oct 2, 2025, 3:22 PM

[bold geode]

My Tera Steel Dnite
4-0'd the whole fuckin team

OR ACTUALLY IT 5-0'D CUZ THEY BROUGHT THE DOZO BACK

[wild knot]

Contrary close combat malamar

[dense latch]

https://x.com/unironicpanda/status/1973899833359675405 reg h drinking gc was too much

justin tang (@unironicpanda)

GC DAY 1 https://t.co/5hG7cnxS6t

X · Oct 2, 2025, 11:56 PM

[rustic mountain]

4-1 so far, only loss was cuz my internet disconnected randomly

[dense latch]

nice

[rustic mountain]

lmao his face

[dense latch]

what are you running?

[rustic mountain]

my usual stuff, rain

[bold geode]

1-0, I done told ya how it went

Also goated ass name

[rustic mountain]

lol thx

[dense latch]

i've been on a bit of a break and i'm not sure i miss reg h much

hopefully a cool team comes out of the next regional

[rustic mountain]

theres been some cool teams imo that have come out, have u been keeping up w/ irl results?

but yea breaks are good, i took a pretty decent one before coming back recently

[dense latch]

tcg set dropped so i've been playing that for the time being

[dense latch]

yea, i do think some teams are pretty fun but i found myself not enjoying games even while winning

[rustic mountain]

gotcha

yea prolly just burn out tbh

[foggy lodge]

erik did you see the super interesting teams that came out on the last victory road

[rustic mountain]

wasnt it like 6/8 of the same team basically

[foggy lodge]

yes

5/11 were the rilla incin acrobatics sneasler balance

[rustic mountain]

that team is good but not that good lol

[foggy lodge]

i think that team is the best of the format rn

idt it will stay like that for long tho

[dense latch]

that's what kept me off lol

[foggy lodge]

that team has weaknesses and one of them i found is that that team has 1 move that hits fire types lol

[dense latch]

i went into the results hoping maybe i'd find something i'd like to try but never mind

[foggy lodge]

at the same time that was the reason Chuppa used tera fire Blursa

[rustic mountain]

https://pokepast.es/08ac52966ab885ec
ur lookin in the wrong places

[dense latch]

that's too much sauce for me

i feel like i would suck with a one protect team

[rustic mountain]

thats fair

[tiny karma]

Ability: Neutralizing Gas

While this Pokemon is active, Abilities have no effect. This Ability activates before hazards and other Abilities take effect. Does not affect the As One, Battle Bond, Comatose, Disguise, Gulp Missile, Ice Face, Multitype, Neutralizing Gas, Power Construct, RKS System, Schooling, Shields Down, Stance Change, Tera Shift, Zen Mode, or Zero to Hero Abilities.

Sableye version 4.28.4

[bold geode]

Forgot about if it affected Zero to Hero

[rustic mountain]

wow i actually did not know that

i figured it applied to zero to hero

[waxen dock]

ok so gc started

[waxen dock]

ok im now 1-0 in gc

now 2-0

[waxen dock]

now 3-0

[bold geode]

9-6 Day 1
Was almost 10-5 but I lost my last game to a blizzard freeze

[waxen dock]

im now 4-0

[rustic mountain]

9-3 gna take a break for the night, sucks 1 of my losses was a random internet crash on my end. also had a win that someone dc'd on me and i didnt get any credit

[waxen dock]

in masters?

[exotic grotto]

That's an incredible performance! You're really skilled!

[waxen dock]

in seniors

and 1 person had ther in game team

[rustic mountain]

yep

[bold geode]

Sucks
Lost my last game to a freeze from Blizzard, would've won otherwise

Also I fought Attract Milotic

[rustic mountain]

yea happens, other 2 losses were to beat up stuff one was weavile i just tunnel visioned on covering other things

[rustic mountain]

lol

i fought bullet seed hisuan electrode

[waxen dock]

lol

[bold geode]

I knocked out two Kingambit with Tera Stellar CC from baby Palafin, my tech still works

[rustic mountain]

only person running palafin this tour id imagine

[waxen dock]

palafin have a solid usage

[bold geode]

If there's another I'd be surprised

[rustic mountain]

no it doesnt

[bold geode]

But I love this dolphin

[rustic mountain]

it used to

[waxen dock]

lets say

glimmora and pawmot have less usage than palafin

[rustic mountain]

idt thats tru at all

[bold geode]

It does take positioning but Palafin kinda going crazy

Also slides well on DUG
Better than I imagined

[waxen dock]

ok

im queing for 5th game

and im against

a team with 4 mons

[rustic mountain]

dont underestimate your opponent

[waxen dock]

1 of them is pikachu

[rustic mountain]

[waxen dock]

and he lead charizard and garchomp

agains my talon and ghold

[bold geode]

But yeah most my losses are just me making mistakes
Them just being better

[waxen dock]

wow

[bold geode]

Which is fine

[waxen dock]

specs mir almost ohkoed charizard

and its a physical charizrd

and he died

[cyan smelt]

Ok when I play gc I need to remember to take a break if I start to get tilted

[waxen dock]

fr

ok its surf dnite

[cyan smelt]

That's a big problem with me, I keep playing when I get tilted

[rustic mountain]

both my losses were me misplaying, i had a specific lead into the weavile team that wouldve went so hard but i opted out and it cost me and for the other 1 there was 1 turn specifically i made the wrong call and it just spiraled from there i think if i chose different targeting i wind up winning or atleast giving myself a chance, as long as u learn tho thats wat matters

[waxen dock]

and his dnite wasnt even multisacale

im now 5-0

ill save the 10 games for later

[cyan smelt]

At least I know Jack's team has been performing well on ladder

[bold geode]

Yeah
I'm not mad about it cuz like
My wins today were very clean imo and like also
Me personally I always view it as like
Basically no matter what I'm using, the way imma win is if I'm better than my opponent in that game and well in my losses I wasn't

[waxen dock]

if i win this gc i probably have a good chance to get the travel award

[bold geode]

That's ok though
My goal and the thing I aim for anyways is to be better than my opponent in those games more consistently so it's always something to work toward

[rustic mountain]

yea for sure, consistency is tough especially for something like the gc but gta get the reps in to get better even if sometimes it doesnt always wind up as the most ideal outcome

[bold geode]

Right

[rustic mountain]

[cyan smelt]

You guys are still good though

[bold geode]

Nah

I'm alright
Could be way better

But that's ok

It's okay to be shit

I'm telling you like
I had my most success in Regulation D and genuinely I have probably more fun with the game now than I did back then

[cyan smelt]

I had my most success using mdb's team in reg h part 1 and have struggled before and since

[bold geode]

Genuinely with the right mindset, you learn way more out of eating shit than winning tbh

[cyan smelt]

I think I'm ready to stop being salty when I lose

I feel like I did learn something when playing a hard tr team last night and winning

[cyan smelt]

Well lost my first game

[waxen dock]

im 5-0

but i only really battled twice against real teams

maybe 3 times since 1 team had psyspam mewostic

while 1 person had only 4 mons and surf pikachu and surf dnite and physical charizard the other person used his ig team probably

and the person with 4 mons won his first game smhw

[cyan smelt]

Ground tera hatterene wtf

God I hate this already

[waxen dock]

lol

thatsapluseone used tera ground hatterene last gc right?

[cyan smelt]

I have no idea

But this sucks

[waxen dock]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jvUD5mc9L8&t=126s

yes he used tera ground blast hatterene

[cyan smelt]

Ok well I won one

Hooray

[knotty mirage]

Question which one is better to be paired with discharge miraidon lando or ursaluna ?

[cyan smelt]

Fuck lost again

I suck at vgc

I feel like I'm throwing

[real prairie]

Depends if you are going fast hyper offensive or miraidon TR

[cyan smelt]

My leads have been all wrong, I haven't been activating the rain mode because I'm scared of ttar

[real prairie]

You running my team?

[cyan smelt]

Yes

[knotty mirage]

Miraidon tr actually because my restricted is caly ice and mirai

[real prairie]

Ah ttar is a pain, normally lead weavile politoed into it so I can reset the rain and spam muddy waters

[real prairie]

Then go ursa

[cyan smelt]

I friggin lost again

[knotty mirage]

Which one blood moon or normal one ?

[solid frigate]

usually Miraidon+Ursaluna is paired With Lunala due to Wide Guard but With Ice Rider it’s usually fine but you kinda have to not blindly click that move

(This is why I really don’t like Using Ursaluna with Miraidon)

[real prairie]

Take a break, play some practice games with the team on SD for a little while

[solid frigate]

Normal one

[real prairie]

Get used to leads and MUs

[knotty mirage]

Aight

[real prairie]

You could also run tera ground CIR in this team

[cyan smelt]

Everything is countering archaludon raun

[real prairie]

But I'm bias lol

[cyan smelt]

Rain

[solid frigate]

I usually use Lando with Miraidon anyway lol

[solid frigate]

It’s a top 3 archetype you kinda have to expect that

[knotty mirage]

The problem with that is my lunala have best speed IV so i don't think it will work well on tr team

[solid frigate]

Miraidon Lunala doesn’t need Min speed Lunala

[knotty mirage]

Really

[solid frigate]

The team that won NAIC in Reg I only has Ursaluna as main TR Sweeper (unless you count Incin)

[knotty mirage]

Yeah i don't really use incin on my team

[solid frigate]

It’s like Koraidon Lunala kinda way where Lunala doesn’t need Min Speed

[cyan smelt]

I'm really struggling with reg h

Anyway I'm taking a break to practice on sd

I guess I'm just rubbish at the game

[real prairie]

Breath bud, you are running a team you've never touched before today.

There was going to be teething issues

By the end of Sunday you'll have a better idea of the team fs

[cyan smelt]

lost to tailwind and sand and idk

[waxen dock]

How is thr gc going for you jack?

[real prairie]

Not started, it started midnight my time so I just wait for the following day

No use starting already tired

[waxen dock]

So when will you startm

[real prairie]

And it's 9am now so not playing switch already 🤣

[real prairie]

This evening probs

[cyan smelt]

hope you do better than me

[real prairie]

Might play a few games this morning, depends how I feel after breakfast and a cup of tea 🤣

But I woke up to my eyes playing up so probably not the best idea to jump on a console yet

[real prairie]

If not, you can blame the team 🤣

[solid frigate]

i literally have too much work to do so i can't rerun my team

[real prairie]

Sadj, because greninja stocks are up atm

[solid frigate]

yeah i was gonna use that set from the stream lmao

the rain dance one

[cyan smelt]

i lost my first game on showdown too

[waxen dock]

When is evening for you?

Oh

Sk probably like 9-10 hours

Wow

The gc has so many less players

Last gc it was 2200 now it is 1200 and last time 12000 in masters and only 8000 in masters

[cyan smelt]

ok won my 2nd game on sd

[waxen dock]

Also in the last gc less 1/10 players in the senior devision that participated in the gc participated for points

Oh
I forgot its also for juniors

[real prairie]

Wonder if this has a lot to do with losing a week of the entry period

[waxen dock]

High chance

[cyan smelt]

lost to minimise drifblim with baton pass into dozo

[real prairie]

That's super GC nonsense eww

[cyan smelt]

i'm getting even more tilted on SD

[real prairie]

1 piece of advise for the team, don't underestimate the power of double muddy water

It often will take a double KO turn 1

[cyan smelt]

i hate gc crap

[real prairie]

It's even worse in reg H because of the cheese you can get away with in the lower power curve

[waxen dock]

Maybe change team

Next gc

[real prairie]

Fuck it, ima jump straight into it

[cyan smelt]

yay i beat a topsy-turvy malamar team

[real prairie]

This happens every time I play I forget how big politoed actually is 🤣

He's the same size as Ludicolo lol

Game 1 scarf electroball Gholdengo and thunderbolt ape 🤣

Thunderbolt, poison jab ape

[cyan smelt]

ok i'm finally winning some

[real prairie]

And it's NOT defiant lol

4-0 game 1 haha

As in no faints

[real prairie]

Big frog

[cyan smelt]

ok i've won 4 in a row now

[real prairie]

2-0

A real test game 3

[cyan smelt]

won 5 in a row now

i'm getting used to this team i think

ice spinner is clutch

[real prairie]

Took an L on this game, couldn't deal with the sneasler Rilla lead

[cyan smelt]

that seems like a hard one

a9 balance is tough

[waxen dock]

Balance

[real prairie]

I just made the wrong choices and they read them like a book

[waxen dock]

The archetype that i hate the most

The anti ho

[cyan smelt]

yeah i feel like i'm making the wrong calls with how i lead and that's why i've been struggling so far

[real prairie]

Took a fat L on that one

Took a risk and it didn't pay off

I know my line into that team and choose something completely different

Silly

[cyan smelt]

ttar seems like the anti-rain lol

[real prairie]

Yeah, ttar is very anti rain. A9 is anti weather lol

[cyan smelt]

maybe i need to replace something on my team with a9 then

[real prairie]

What a good idea lol

[cyan smelt]

like you said we're gradually moving towards a9 balance lol

[real prairie]

5-1, time for a break to annoy the Mrs

[waxen dock]

Are you streaming?

[real prairie]

I'm not

Wanted to just focus on GC this time

[real prairie]

@cyan smelt blazkien team

leaving this here before i inevitably bottle it later. 7-1

[cyan smelt]

Yeah that's that Blaziken balance team I've seen

[cyan smelt]

I did all my bottling first up so hopefully I can only improve?

[next stump]

hell yeah

[cyan smelt]

Well it's comforting for me that it's not the team it's just my piloting

[real prairie]

You are piloting a pretty unique team I've been practising with for 4 weeks 🤣

[cyan smelt]

I wish I could make good teams

Actually maybe I can and I just need to analyse my pasrs

[waxen dock]

an i lost cuz of luck

twice

im twice already

yet no game i won cuz of luck

i probably will lose points cuz of this shit

2 times i could have won

but luck

ok

ok

1 battle

and i lost to luck again probably

this gc is a joke

and now i lost 3rd rimw cuz of luck

so i have 5 loses

give me at least 3 wins

for the 3 i lost

[real prairie]

Take a break

@cyan smelt just had my worst pickpocket 🤣

Focus sash proct and pickpocketed flame orb 🤣🤣

[cyan smelt]

oops lol

[real prairie]

Was fine because was 3 on 1 by that point

9-2, lost to another A9 balance

Due to a muddy water miss

Sorry 8-2

[waxen dock]

im 9-5

[real prairie]

Now I'm 9-2

Whilst listening to all star by smash mouth, I'm that guy

[exotic grotto]

That's an amazing performance! You're really skilled!

[waxen dock]

but

if i have only 2 losses tommorow

i will be in a good position

[cyan smelt]

i beat a ttar team on showdown

[waxen dock]

@cyan smelt whats your gc score?

[cyan smelt]

not good, i've lost 4 and won 1

[waxen dock]

im 10-5

[upper zealot]

im 0-0

[exotic grotto]

Great performance! I hope you continue to do great in the rest of the tournament!

[waxen dock]

thats not great

but

if i do 13-2 next day

which ill have 23-7

ill be in a good position for day 3

[solid frigate]

Get used to it cuz they do this everytime no matter you did good or bad

[waxen dock]

actually it is

[real prairie]

Nothing wrong with being supportive haha

[cyan smelt]

lost 2 in a row now

on showdown

[real prairie]

Happens

[solid frigate]

its more funny that it happened on other servers (I hope not)

[cyan smelt]

i hate trick room

[real prairie]

Yes

[cyan smelt]

and i hate toxic spikes sneasler with dozo

[solid frigate]

CTS moment

[cyan smelt]

i always lose to ttar

[waxen dock]

do you think i can do 13-2 tommorow?

[cyan smelt]

i'm not good with jack's team

[real prairie]

Lead weavile and politoed into it

[real prairie]

Sorry buddy

[cyan smelt]

it's not your fault i know the team is good

i feel like i'm throwing if i'm not using sneasler

i'm just not very good

[real prairie]

Lunch break

[solid frigate]

Good Ol Nandos

[bold geode]

Yeah but there's times where it isn't

[bold geode]

I hate that I actually am looking at British food and thinking it's delicious

[real prairie]

Nandos is south African if that helps 🤣 just happens to be in the UK

[bold geode]

YEAH BUT IT'S COOKED BY THE BRI'ISH

But it could be worse

You could be F-
F-
God I can't even say it

|| Fr*nch||

[real prairie]

🤣🤣🤣

10-2

[cyan smelt]

well i'm glad at least you're doing well with it

[bold geode]

The Ursaluna under TR

[real prairie]

So am I after 4 weeks of practice 🤣

[real prairie]

Hahaha perfectly timed as I just beat one under TR and that's about all it could do

I didn't get a single hit off 🤣

They switched into a Ludicolo muddy water crit and then tried to facade my Ludicolo in anger next turn and I tera ghost did it again 🤣🤣🤣

[cyan smelt]

I need to give it another go tomorrow after not staying up all night

[real prairie]

Just lost to the most GC team I've ever seen.

Tera dark weak armour weakness policy armorouge with choice scarf drain punch female indeedee and max attack close combat incin

[solid frigate]

why the fuck

do you need tera dark-

[real prairie]

To proct weakness policy with drain punch

[solid frigate]

omfg my brain is gonna fry

[solid frigate]

Atp why not just use Beat up weak armor

[real prairie]

To throw people off and make people think it's TR

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/kamen-rider-ooo-ankh-kamen-rider-gif-9051565976148687538

[real prairie]

It's clearly working, they are in the top 100 🤣

[solid frigate]

GCs are always like two sides of the same coin

[lean ridge]

i forgot to PP max the eruption on my typhlosion before locking in my team and i can already feel like its gonna come back to haunt me at some point

[real prairie]

Ffs lost to a glimmora team

I played fucking awful

Finished on 11-4

[solid frigate]

Don’t worry I literally forgot to max IV my Solgaleo before I do GC lmao

We all have clumsy moments

[real prairie]

2 GCs ago I went in with 2 mons with no items 🤣

[lean ridge]

😭

[waxen dock]

I finished 10-5

Hope for better results tommorow

I need to be tommorow 23-7

Even 22-8 is good

[real prairie]

whats your highest finish to date?#

[waxen dock]

What?

[lean ridge]

im still at 4-0 rn but im gonna just play 20 saturday 20 sunday

[stone trellis]

He's asking what your highest placement on a GC is.

Either that or your best win-loss record as of right now.

[waxen dock]

12

Last gc

Same team but with better evs

[waxen dock]

Yet worse results

[real prairie]

Meta shift maybe

[real prairie]

This^

Kicking yourself for 10-5 feels very high level

[waxen dock]

Luck and got paired up against good player

[lean ridge]

are u guys all in masters or senior

[waxen dock]

Senior

[lean ridge]

ah

[waxen dock]

You are masters i guess

[real prairie]

Whichever is the one for old people

[stone trellis]

Either that or you expect to be naturally better at using the team second time around and you try less without realising.

[lean ridge]

yea

i assume senior is the most popular right, i feel like thats the biggest pokemon player base

[waxen dock]

Nah

[lean ridge]

or maybe the younger ppl play less competitive

i see

[real prairie]

Anyone know how many people in this GC?

[waxen dock]

Only 1200 players

[waxen dock]

8000 in masters

[stone trellis]

Masters is the big one.

[waxen dock]

And 1200 is seniors and junoors

Juniors

[bold geode]

You underestimate the amount of grown ass men that play VGC

[solid frigate]

masters

[solid frigate]

*Heavily Underestimated

[lean ridge]

yea i was not expecting 8000 vs 1200 difference

[craggy dagger]

[bold geode]

And stinky ass sillies :3

[craggy dagger]

like you!

[bold geode]

NUH UH

[real prairie]

Yeah, look at these statistics

[solid frigate]

That’s the combination of Pokémon and Sonic Fans

[bold geode]

I am the 1%

They were right all along

[real prairie]

I wished to be in the top 1% of the world to a genie once.

I'm still broke but now I'm autistic

[bold geode]

Real

[next stump]

masters always has like 10-20x the number of younger kids

especially at tournaments

[bold geode]

Low-key sucks that there's no in game ladder

I went on the BO1 ladder on Showdown and like
Deadass even for the GC, the Showdown ladder there isn't fully representing shit

[craggy dagger]

yuh uh

[signal glen]

Luxray best comp pokemon ever. None compare

[solid frigate]

Sure Buddy,Sure…

[real prairie]

Yeah out of 15 games I played 2 A9 balance, every other game is A9 on SD

[next stump]

I faced sooooo many rain teams on showdown recently, I wonder what I’ll play tonight in the GC when I’m home

[real prairie]

I haven't had a single rain mirror in 15 games

[bold geode]

I actually didn't play too much Rain

My matches were all around

[craggy dagger]

@bold geode

YOU