competitive_discussion

[craggy dagger]

better than wugtrio

[solid frigate]

Lmfao

[oak finch]

https://x.com/cbuttyvgc/status/1971237245639344259?s=46

Cbutty 🔜 Gdansk 🇵🇱 (@CbuttyVGC)

The Reg H experience

X · Sep 25, 2025, 3:35 PM

[dapper crag]

I hate reg H

And reg I

[oak finch]

why I?

[dapper crag]

Because it banned my fav mon ever

[real prairie]

Morning folks, miss anything exciting?

[cyan smelt]

Moxie boosted had a gliscor team that looked interesting

[stone trellis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regj-2450358938

I love Discharge...

[left bobcat]

Whoopty doo

[atomic mural]

so real

[ocean pawn]

?

[shadow wind]

There’s a lot going on that I feel like could be removed

Double grass stack is not awesome and Gholdengo doesn’t really fit

[dapper crag]

I have been summoned

[stone trellis]

Some chucklefuck was trying to use SwordFish in the big 2025.
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regj-2450554294

[short quiver]

hi chat

pro tip do not drink coffee immediately after eating a lemon

they do NOT mix

[dapper crag]

Logic would dictate that they dont

But I’m curious, how’d it go

[short quiver]

it tasted terrible

sour and bitter do not mix

👍🏻

[dapper crag]

Guess you live and learn

[stone trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-shadow-super-shadow-super-sonic-sonic-the-hedgehog-gif-3247172642787342878

The joke writes itself.

[short quiver]

or i can keep doing it

whos gonna stop me

[stone trellis]

Death.

[short quiver]

lemon and coffee is not gonna kill me

[stone trellis]

The lemon contains 4 grams of Polonium.

[short quiver]

uh huh

@stone trellis no it doesnt

im reading the chemical compound of a lemon rn

marie curies work remains safe

[stone trellis]

You're stupid.

I said that the specific lemon you're about to eat contains Polonium, not lemons in general.

[short quiver]

what the hell are you talking about

[stone trellis]

You said lemons and coffee aren't going to kill you, so I added something that would.

[short quiver]

yeah but my lemon and coffee both dont contain polonium

so ion gotta worry about it

[short quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/furret-pokemon-cute-gif-17963577

https://tenor.com/view/feednanyangi-nanyangi-luna-jaemin-luna-head-empty-cat-no-thought-gif-6210022633730634802

[lean ridge]

https://x.com/chuppavgc/status/1971987286381543902?s=46&t=jtUdgueWOVV46oV5OZbJtA

Chuppa (@ChuppaVGC)

not sure if anyone else has posted this from reddit yet, but here's ANOTHER reason why the shiny distribution is fucked

X · Sep 27, 2025, 5:16 PM

Thankfully restricteds won’t be in competitive until IVs are gone but optimal IVs locked behind such a horrible run event is crazy

[upper zealot]

miraidon has always been iv locked no?

[lean ridge]

Yea the non shiny is guaranteed 31 atk while the shiny has 20

It’s pretty niche but the lower attack is better for it cuz of foul play damage

[upper zealot]

ah i read it wrong

i thought the post was saying that 20 was bad

[short quiver]

i mean terapagos is also set to an atk iv of 20 naturally in the indigo disk story

[short quiver]

and confusion damage

[lean ridge]

Yea it’s more the fact that this optimal miraidon is only obtainable through GameStop codes that ran out in an hour than anything else. If u don’t get ur hand on one of them ur forced to use a sub optimal miraidon even if the difference is pretty small

[short quiver]

are they gonna restock the codes

i dont have a miraidon yet i only have korai so far

[lean ridge]

I hope so but honestly I doubt it

[short quiver]

i bought both games i should have both shinies

just feel like thats how it should work

[hallow quartz]

anyone know any teams for origin dialga/palkia?

[short quiver]

please dont use them lmao

save yourself the pain

[hallow quartz]

r they that bad 💀

[short quiver]

😔

i think Dialga-O had some success earlier in SV

but keywords there was “earlier in SV”

[hallow quartz]

damn

so what are some good restricteds rn other than miraidon and calyrex 😭

the meta's kinda annoying imo

[dense latch]

korai

zamazenta
lunala

kyogre

[hallow quartz]

thats not that many icl

[short quiver]

groudon if you feel like living dangerously maybe

or if your like me and Latte Owl White Kyurem

[lean ridge]

Origin dialga can work well as a TR setter next to Ursaluna

Still kinda gimmicky tho

[short quiver]

kinda? 💀

[lean ridge]

😭

[short quiver]

i personally draw the line at white kyurem

dialga-O tr is like

out of my range

[hallow quartz]

ive never seen a white kyurem team that isnt from like 7 months ago

[short quiver]

i used white kyurem in I and J

[dense latch]

those are all the meta restricteds from reg i which translates well into reg j
pagos is good at times, zacian groudon and ho-oh are okay

[hallow quartz]

arceus is illegal right?

[dense latch]

not in reg j

[hallow quartz]

ohh

i always thought arceus would make it into the meta

[shadow wind]

GROUDON MENTIONED FOR DOING SOMETHING

[dense latch]

i haven't played any reg j but from what i've seen arceus seems pretty good as an espeed bot

[shadow wind]

Hip hip hooray

[dense latch]

the other mythical that's close to being worth a restricted slot is magearna

[shadow wind]

Somehow it’s still worse than Dnite

When the god of Pokemon is weaker than a gen 1 dragon 🥀

Arceus should’ve given himself inner focus bro

[hallow quartz]

ive always wanted to try magearna but the only way you can get her is trading and the home pokedex right?

shes pretty hard to get

[shadow wind]

There’s a QR code for USUM that gives you it

Should still work?

[hallow quartz]

wait really?

[hallow quartz]

thats really balanced 🌚

[shadow wind]

I believe so

[short quiver]

i mentioned groudon you’re welcome

[dapper crag]

Groudon? You mean the desolate land mon?

[solid frigate]

it doesn't

[short quiver]

do you mean didn’t

and idk you expect me to pay attention to other peoples teams lmao

like me of all people do not care what teams most people be running

[solid frigate]

then don't say it has some success

[dapper crag]

Dialga-O has some success

In the lore

[short quiver]

did bro even read the words “I THINK”??

cuz i think bro missed those very important words

i started the sentence with I THINK

[solid frigate]

you do realise people take everything here real

I rather you say idk than actually assume it has success

[short quiver]

you clearly didnt take the words i think very seriously so idk about that

I DIDNT ASSUME I SAID I THINK

thats not an assumption its an idea that simply someone coulda said it didnt and left it at that 😐

[cyan smelt]

I had a dream I was talking to wolfey and asked him if I should join his academy

[old pumice]

Does anyone have an ev spread for corviknight i could use? I might be entering a tournament tomorrow and am very unprepared

[short quiver]

real

[next stump]

check out the website munchstats

[ocean pawn]

use munch stats and if you notice a calc you don't like within game change adjust when your done

[steep charm]

Yo, who is good at competitive double battles here?

[oak finch]

No one

[steep charm]

???

[bold geode]

?

[bold geode]

Whatchu need

[short quiver]

none of us lmao

we can probably help you though if you need something

[oak finch]

a little humour

[real prairie]

They genuinely should have just done an in game distribution

[knotty mirage]

Bruh

[bold geode]

Imma give them the ol Amazon 2 for one

[lean ridge]

Hopefully the rest of the shiny legends from SV are distributed better

If not I might need to set up camp outside GameStop for shiny gouging fire and raging bolt

[knotty mirage]

I think for the shiny paradox legend i presume they will just pull off shiny galarian bird again which is tournament participation reward

[boreal mauve]

Shiny Cresselia

Provided by Nexus-Z

[upper zealot]

🤔

should i hunt for a shiny 0speed cress

i think that might make me go insane so maybe not

[foggy lodge]

0 speed and 0 attack shiny Cresselia

🙂

[stone trellis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regj-2450871271

Discharge on Mirai is elite.

[waxen dock]

Specs mirai?

Or av mirai

[molten oasis]

Hell

[stone trellis]

I use AV.

But with Helping Hand and Tera Electric, it may as well be Specs.

The motherfucker has also lived two Origin Pulses, an Ice Beam from Kyogre (pre-Tera) and a Moonblast from Whimsicott (post-Tera).

In one game.

Coaching would also allow it to survive damn near every physical attack in the game.

[old pumice]

Okay thank you

[gentle crag]

mr.cheese4277 has given 1 Gen Rep to champninjastar

[cyan smelt]

i want to try and make farigiraf work but idk partners

[stone trellis]

Reg H?

[cyan smelt]

yes

[stone trellis]

What are some strong Pokemon who'd love not being slowed down by Fake Out and other priority moves?

[cyan smelt]

gambit, i want to try gliscor with farig too

[stone trellis]

What's Gliscor going to do?

Aside from walling the weasel.

[cyan smelt]

take care of the pesky sneaslers, rillas, incins, amoonguses

[stone trellis]

Oh yeah, it can't be put to sleep because of Poison Heal.

[cyan smelt]

i was thinking covert cloak and hyper cutter

[stone trellis]

Lum Berry.

[cyan smelt]

could definitely go coaching though

[stone trellis]

You don't need Cloak, you have Farigiraf to block stuff.

[cyan smelt]

lum berry is good, then i need something for fast psyspam

was thinking tailroom

[stone trellis]

Aight, let's cook.

[cyan smelt]

need something for rain, sun, snow, fast psyspam, dozo

idt gliscor likes weather teams that much

[stone trellis]

Dondozo...

[cyan smelt]

do you think primarina with haze would work

wait, if i'm going tailroom why not murkrow

[stone trellis]

Yep.

So what would Gliscor's moves be?

Dual Wingbeat, Toxic, Substitute and Protect?

[cyan smelt]

sd, protect, high horsepower, dual wingbeat

[stone trellis]

Aight.

[cyan smelt]

i'm thinking imprison farigiraf to shut down hyper voice from primarina and ursa

[stone trellis]

Could work.

How fast is UBM normally?

252 Modest?

[cyan smelt]

common partners are whimsicott isn't it

[stone trellis]

You have your own Tailwind.

And they can't Taunt you.

You could run fast offensive Farigiraf, to be entirely honest.

[cyan smelt]

need something for fast psyspam though because gliscor does not take an e-force well

[stone trellis]

Tera Dark, your own terrain...

It's up to you.

[cyan smelt]

i was thinking a more defensive tera like water or electric

how good is rilla in tr

[stone trellis]

Not extremely.

[stone trellis]

Steel is also an option.

[cyan smelt]

steel could be good, then i can live a pop bomb from maus

[stone trellis]

Exactly.

[cyan smelt]

then i could probably run hisuian typhlosion and not have to worry about sucker punch

[stone trellis]

244 HP / 140 Def Impish Tera Steel Gliscor lives Adamant CC.

Damn, how tanky is this guy?

[cyan smelt]

physically very

[stone trellis]

108 Atk Gliscor Dual Wingbeat (2 hits) vs. 36 HP / 4 Def Sneasler: 148-180 (92.5 - 112.5%) -- 69.9% chance to OHKO
108 Atk Gliscor Dual Wingbeat (2 hits) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Sneasler: 148-180 (95.4 - 116.1%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO

[cyan smelt]

was even thinking about running blunder policy in case dual wingbeat or high horsepower misses

[stone trellis]

That is a very positive roll, to be honest.

[cyan smelt]

try grassy seed sneasler

[stone trellis]

108 Atk Gliscor Dual Wingbeat (2 hits) vs. +1 4 HP / 0 Def Sneasler: 100-120 (64.1 - 76.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Grassy Terrain recovery

252+ Atk Gliscor Dual Wingbeat (2 hits) vs. +1 4 HP / 0 Def Sneasler: 124-148 (79.4 - 94.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Grassy Terrain recovery

It's not worth it.

[cyan smelt]

i also dunno about two ice weaknesses

but ig typhlosion covers for that

[stone trellis]

So you have Gliscor and Typhlosion as your main offensive pieces.

[cyan smelt]

and gambit

[stone trellis]

180 Timid Farig outspeeds max Speed Modest Ursaluna.

And it lives Kowtow Cleave from max Attack Adamant Kingambit 93,75% of the time.

Only the highest possible roll will OHKO it.

[cyan smelt]

damn that thing is like a restricted

[stone trellis]

You mean Farig or Kingambit?

[cyan smelt]

ursaluna

[stone trellis]

Is it?

[cyan smelt]

it's very bulky

[stone trellis]

You have Tailwind and you have Trick Room.

And you have three offensive pieces.

Guess another support is warranted.

[cyan smelt]

shroom?

[stone trellis]

Bet.

Oh wait, Gliscor could hold Safety Goggles instead of Lum Berry.

[cyan smelt]

that doesn't protect against paralysis

[stone trellis]

Paralysis from what?

[cyan smelt]

dire claw

[stone trellis]

Fair.

[cyan smelt]

can always tera out of dire claw stuff though

[stone trellis]

Oh yeah, Tera Steel.

[cyan smelt]

idk i still like water more

[ocean pawn]

are sign ups still broken for the gc?

[stone trellis]

You have your resistance to fast psyspam, gang.

[cyan smelt]

true

[stone trellis]

Aight, so the biggest gap between Defense and Special Defense belongs to Kingambit with 35.

I need a way to ensure that any of the Pokemon who could sit next to it will prevent P2 from getting a Special Attack boost.

Typhlosion's GOATed because that thing has 7 more Special Defense than Defense.

Nevermind, Gliscor makes it impossible.

[ocean pawn]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reghbo3-2450885270-t0xj00syom2ntihycixy2qxdsd17txkpw
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reghbo3-2450886822-pod2cr8r2d3ckkjjdnrylqmk8g5339wpw
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reghbo3-2450888515-xms2ybdhf9amm3h0m8w9a550iqlplukpw

[cyan smelt]

Idk it feels too unbalanced, I need more mid speed mons

[dapper crag]

Charmander

[stone trellis]

You have two base 95s and a base 91.

[cyan smelt]

It feels weak to sand

[real prairie]

I'm genuinely considering fake out follow me trick room synchronise Indeedee for my team, what even is reg H 🤣

[shadow wind]

It’s a Mickey Mouse format

It was labelled as a “low power format” yet with power creep these mons are almost equal to legendaries

[waxen dock]

Did they fix the gc problem?

[foggy lodge]

The Ursalunas are restricteds

[shadow wind]

That’s what I’m saying

140 Atk with guts and stab facade

Literally hits harder than most Restricteds

[foggy lodge]

And bloodmoon is one of the moves of all times

[real prairie]

No idea

[real prairie]

Blood moon hitting ghost types was completely unnecessary addition, overpowers it

[stone trellis]

Imagine if BM was slower and had more Special Defense.

[shadow wind]

Bro just described normal Ursaluna 😭

[waxen dock]

Pls no

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 901: Ursaluna

Types

Ground/Normal

Abilities

Guts, Bulletproof, Unnerve (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

130/140/105/45/80/50

Total

550

Other Formes

Ursaluna-Bloodmoon

Sableye version 4.28.4

Pokémon No. 901: Ursaluna-Bloodmoon

Types

Ground/Normal

Abilities

Mind's Eye

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

113/70/120/135/65/52

Total

555

Base Species

Ursaluna

Sableye version 4.28.4

[shadow wind]

Normal Ursa has more stats

Wilding

[waxen dock]

No

[stone trellis]

No, it doesn't.

[shadow wind]

😭😭😭

[stone trellis]

"Groudon has more stats than Rayquaza because it has higher Defense"

[foggy lodge]

Blursa's BST is fake

[shadow wind]

Alright so class we’re going to look very carefully, Ursaluna has 45 spatk meaning it has 505, Ursaluna BM has 70 Atk meaning it has 485

[foggy lodge]

^

[shadow wind]

I said stats not BST

[foggy lodge]

Its like the Kingdra thing

[shadow wind]

Exactly

[foggy lodge]

You look at the BST and ut looks fine then you see how its distributed

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 230: Kingdra

Types

Water/Dragon

Abilities

Swift Swim, Sniper, Damp (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

75/95/95/95/95/85

Total

540

Sableye version 4.28.4

[shadow wind]

95 wasted stats

[foggy lodge]

Almost 100

[shadow wind]

Crazy stuff

Ttar has that except for he’s the goat

[foggy lodge]

How did Wolfey win a regional with this thing

[real prairie]

It can be a mixed attacker tbf

Has a decent moveset

[shadow wind]

This is true

[real prairie]

Typing ability and moveset

[foggy lodge]

Yeah but why would you run physical Kingdra in an Incineroar meta

[shadow wind]

Unlike the Ursas where they are stuck using their side specifically

[waxen dock]

The problem with ttar is its typing

[unborn sage]

Can I have help with Goodra and palafin

[shadow wind]

The problem with Ttar is that there is no problem

[waxen dock]

If mega ttar was like dark geound it wkuld be good

[waxen dock]

?

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 248: Tyranitar

Types

Rock/Dark

Abilities

Sand Stream, Unnerve (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/134/110/95/100/61

Total

600

Other Formes

Tyranitar-Mega

Sableye version 4.28.4

[foggy lodge]

It only lacks speed wtf

[unborn sage]

Please

[real prairie]

It wouldn't work, it wouldn't get the spDef buff from sand

[shadow wind]

Pretty much

He’s goated

[waxen dock]

So rock and something

[real prairie]

Dragon? 👀🤣

[shadow wind]

Gamefreak, GIVE US A ROCK GHOST

[unborn sage]

Goodra

Goodra

Palafin

[chrome knot]

?

[shadow wind]

Twin what are you talking about

You’ve said like 3 things

And nothing has been clear what you want

If you want a team with those 2 you’re going to struggling

[chrome knot]

i assume they jus want the mons lmao

and it has nothing to do with comp

[unborn sage]

No I trying to complete the Pokédex

[shadow wind]

😭

[real prairie]

#trading_sv #trading_sv_pokedex

[chrome knot]

told you

[shadow wind]

A prophet

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/ChuppaVGC/status/1971987286381543902

Chuppa (@ChuppaVGC)

not sure if anyone else has posted this from reddit yet, but here's ANOTHER reason why the shiny distribution is fucked

X · Sep 27, 2025, 5:16 PM

[chrome knot]

jack wanna see something kinda awesome

[real prairie]

If reasonable logic is prophecy I suddenly understand religion a lot more

[real prairie]

Shoot

[shadow wind]

I mean isn’t that the whole point?

Not to get too deep but it’s like how did everything end up perfect for us to live

I’m not religious by any means but there’s gotta be something pulling the strings

[foggy lodge]

it was me sorry

[shadow wind]

Ahh that makes sense

[real prairie]

Just making a joke my friend lol

[real prairie]

I can indeed confirm it is awesome and Emmie is a clever sausage

[gentle crag]

averagejack_yt has given 1 Gen Rep to setsumizi

[real prairie]

Clever sausage gives rep? 🤣

[lean ridge]

Anyone know where I can find a database of recent reg H regional top cut teams

[foggy lodge]

Top cut explorer

[lean ridge]

Ty

[foggy lodge]

Reminder that this thing made top cut https://pokepast.es/6847b4edc36c8420

[lean ridge]

Kanto ninetales???

[pulsar cloak]

Not the craziest team in cut I fear

[lean ridge]

That’s cool

[foggy lodge]

Look at the Whimsicott's ability

[lean ridge]

Honestly I’ve always loved team building but I’m not good enough to do it to a level where the team is actually good enough for a competition

So I’m prob better off just using known good teams

Chlorophyll whims

[stone trellis]

It does have ridiculously good base Speed for a Chlorophyll abuser.

[foggy lodge]

Show it

idk what van be crazier than chlorophyll Whimsicott tbh

[pulsar cloak]

https://pokepast.es/08ac52966ab885ec

[foggy lodge]

Oh that team LMAO

[lean ridge]

That’s the finalist isn’t it

[pulsar cloak]

Yeah

[stone trellis]

Oh, that one.

[foggy lodge]

What is the calm mind on Sinistcha for

[pulsar cloak]

Idk, but there is a team report of the team

[foggy lodge]

Calm mind Sinistcha with only one attacking move and its the grass move on a steel and dragons meta

[lean ridge]

I remember watching it and the sinistcha was almost a stall Mon

[next stump]

is showdown down for anyone else

[real prairie]

Labmaus

[lean ridge]

Burning all physical attackers and setting up calm mind vs special attackers then just recovering with sap or matcha

[stone trellis]

Thank God it walls regular Ursaluna.

[gentle crag]

skywarsveteran1607 has given 1 Gen Rep to tunisian

[lean ridge]

It’s working for me

[stone trellis]

Tunisian, are you God?

[next stump]

woah that's werid, if I do incognito mode it loads

[lean ridge]

[lean ridge]

Wdym

😭 😭 😭 😭

Ur welcome

[waxen dock]

I just realize how better pokemon scarler is for vgc, i wish i had it before

The best legendary paradox from future(iron crown) is as good as the woest legendary paradox from past(gouging fire)

Also past paradox are much better

[bold geode]

Ha get fucked scammer

[stone trellis]

I could've bought Scarlet too, but they only had a single copy of either game and that copy was of Violet.

It was almost like I was fated to use the clanker bike.

[real prairie]

?

[bold geode]

Scam bot tried to post images

[real prairie]

Haha using your new powers, good shit

Mind chasing on my job application? 👀😊

[lean ridge]

I’m a scarlet player and I really hope the distribution for raging bolt/gouging fire isn’t exclusive to violet similar to what they did for the bikes 😵‍💫

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/rejected-stamp-gif-12255531

Nah lol
That's for the mods to decide, not me

[real prairie]

Yeah sound haha just wondering if you heard anything lol

[bold geode]

Also don't say the j word in my chat
Out here slinging slurs, geez dude

[real prairie]

🤣

[stone trellis]

Job, career, employment, employee, salary.

[bold geode]

@ mods

[waxen dock]

Ok

So i just decided to not particupate in victory road wc

[real prairie]

Grand challenge next weekend and still no way to sign up, surely there should be bigger uproar about this?

[bold geode]

Grand Challenge starts this Thursday/Friday depending on time zones

[bold geode]

Probably some who don't care, but there's also probably a lot of the case where people aren't complaining cuz they know TPCi don't give a damn

Anyways

-8ball do I run DUG

[gentle crag]

do I run DUG
:8ball: Ask again later

[bold geode]

-8ball Do I run DUG

[gentle crag]

Do I run DUG
:8ball: Reply hazy try again

[bold geode]

-8ball do I run DUG with Palafin

[gentle crag]

do I run DUG with Palafin
:8ball: Better not tell you now

[bold geode]

-8ball you will tell me now

[gentle crag]

you will tell me now
:8ball: Yes

[bold geode]

Good we agree

-8ball do I run DUG with Palafin

[gentle crag]

do I run DUG with Palafin
:8ball: You may rely on it

[bold geode]

Fuck

[real prairie]

See I don't even know where to begin to complain

[bold geode]

Oh I could go on LMAO

[stone trellis]

-8ball Do I use Tera Fairy, Tera Fire or Tera Water on Calyrex Ice Rider?

Can someone do this for me? The bot clearly hates me.

[foggy lodge]

Tera fighting body press

[molten oasis]

-8ball should I run arcanine in gc?

[gentle crag]

should I run arcanine in gc?
:8ball: Outlook good

[bold geode]

-8ball will I get to even run the GC

[gentle crag]

will I get to even run the GC
:8ball: It is certain

[bold geode]

Bullshit ass 8 ball

[molten oasis]

Can we still not sign up?

[bold geode]

Haven't seen or heard anything else

[real prairie]

James Baek says "Apparently they are working on it"

but i still have doubts lol

[upper zealot]

dawei si was at my local

pretty cool

[real prairie]

Think its ready for GC, whenever i can enter lol https://pokepast.es/6f33337b7e44120a

[real prairie]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2451241128-qny7nu16no1x7auu57l4ddqdqwv6vsipw

Sacrificed my Weavile to get the boost on Last Respects 🤣

[knotty briar]

I just finished getting to master ball tier and I gotta say, CIR Magearna is busted

[knotty briar]

I personally run tera water
But I use the high horsepower variant
I've seen the leech seed variant use tera fire more often

[real prairie]

At least im consistent...

[visual flume]

I hate peliper

Thank you thats all

[real prairie]

Having issues using it or facing it?

[visual flume]

Facing it

[real prairie]

What's your team?

[near crag]

Just slotted indeedee in this team, instead of maushold. Y'all think that could work? https://pokepast.es/dab9d898483d02ab Wanted to have a better matchup into sneasler rilla, and a little soft tr in case I bait people into using tailwind.

[dense latch]

indeedee makes no sense here in my opinion

[visual flume]

https://pokepast.es/17c93fe406a624f8

[dense latch]

you lose out on rage fist self proc, using espeed on dnite and encore on whim

maus dengo is your sneasler rilla matchup

friend guard is extremely valuable for most of your mons especially ape and dengo

also think ape can afford to drop most of its attack evs for bulk

188 HP 68 Atk 252 Spe jolly is my go to and what i’ve seen from the best ape teams

[old pumice]

Who would raichu pair well with in reg h? Idc If dengo or sneasler do I'm not using them lol

[pulsar cloak]

I feel like it would fit well with a middling speed setup mon since it offers fake out support alongside nuzzle and/or electroweb for speed control

One idea that comes to mind is pairing it with calm mind primarina

[foggy lodge]

Raichu pairs well with the box

[old pumice]

2 ppl now that have said that 😭

[bold geode]

Make that three

[short quiver]

whos the box

who we talkin about

[craggy dagger]

make that four :3

[rustic mountain]

[shadow wind]

I have 17 missed calls from Kommo-o

[craggy dagger]

why 😭

[shadow wind]

Cause I haven't picked up yet

And I think it's about time I pick up the phone

[molten oasis]

Kommo-o you say

[shadow wind]

Kommo-o I do say

[molten oasis]

Clangorous stuff or IDBP?

[shadow wind]

Clangorous stuff has always been more interesting to me

[craggy dagger]

calm mind boomburst...

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/shusher-home-captain-smek-gif-16112908977447177811

[craggy dagger]

[bold geode]

[shadow wind]

And like the only thing super duper stopping Kommo right now is haze dnite

I mean there's other things but that's the big one

[molten oasis]

No

[molten oasis]

Kommo-o a9

[shadow wind]

Interesting

[molten oasis]

Tested it a little, it’s fun

[craggy dagger]

[molten oasis]

It works

[shadow wind]

Oh wait I had a Kommo A9 team before

[molten oasis]

Lemme get the OTS for ya

[shadow wind]

https://pokepast.es/91e536981e745564

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/dbe85ebf3396396c

[molten oasis]

That is something lmao

[shadow wind]

https://pokepast.es/bcaed9e3fd3dff78

I'm currently trying this team again

[molten oasis]

Gimmick shit but, seems fine

[shadow wind]

Tox is kinda cool

Quite bad

But he's cool

Alright I'm playing sun

Kommo can wait

One too many A9 freezes

Ok I take it back I'm just being a baby about freezes

Kommo is now

[shadow wind]

Kommo just beat a MausApe lead 🥹

Brings a true tear to my eye

[cyan smelt]

what's ur kommo-o team

[shadow wind]

^

[cyan smelt]

oh interesting

[shadow wind]

I made it way long ago

And I just want to play Kommo for some more ideas

[cyan smelt]

i want to play gliscor but idk what to use with it, i think i'm just gonna play one of the vgcpastes teams to get some ideas

[shadow wind]

I saw a banded Gliscor do well

It was old RegH though

I always thought Gliscor was cool

Does incredible into Sneasler

[cyan smelt]

decent into rilla and gholdengo and incin too

moxieboosted had a cool gliscor team that he made a video about

[shadow wind]

I wouldn't say Dengo

Dude has 75 spdef

[cyan smelt]

dengo is always tera water anyway

[shadow wind]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reghbo3-2451436501-ggvixid820l43kwstlm56jncovcl8y5pw

This team is so fun yet it is not good

[foggy lodge]

omg it's 3 supports

[shadow wind]

Max attack Incin 🥀

I tried so hard to make him not a support

[foggy lodge]

lol

[shadow wind]

The team is missing prio so badly

Man

Alolan Ninetales sucks

I have been frozen so much

It might be time for sun

So I might be going crazy

Crazy in a bad way

[cyan smelt]

Slaking cringe

[shadow wind]

Boohoo

I honestly could care less how "cringe" slaking is when people run MausApe

[cyan smelt]

Slaking is worse

[shadow wind]

How

How is Slaking ever worse

Literally just kill Weezing

MausApe takes a whole preplan

[cyan smelt]

So does dozo

So does sneasler indeedee

[shadow wind]

Yeah

That's kinda my point

Slaking is like the best of the worst for this

And I'd rather fight a Slaking than A9 any day

You ever wonder why you don't see Slakings ever?

Because it's not good

But you see MausApe

And Sneasler indeedee

[solid frigate]

if there is no truant and fighting types are not that common then its fine

its just we live in a world where we have like 2 main archetype that center around fighting types

[shadow wind]

Yeah

It might be time to unveil my final form

Archaludon soldier 🫡

Or I just quit VGC until champions

[solid frigate]

Don’t worry I’m cooking something to end my SV VGC Journey (Unless We still play SV in January and February)

[shadow wind]

Wow Scyther just pieced up a team

[solid frigate]

You know something is wrong when Pengy is crashing out over a Scyther

[shadow wind]

Lowkey why is Lucario working for me

[cyan smelt]

lucario made day 2 of a regional i think

[shadow wind]

Granted I have played only 3 sets

I have won all 3 but that doesn't mean it's good

I've been using justified Lucario with beat up whims

[cyan smelt]

i kinda want to use grimmsnarl and gliscor, or gliscor and espathra

[scenic oriole]

Folks I need to tweak related advice- VGC reg G team- boarder of top 500 atm.

https://pokepast.es/1b991b7d0a54f1ec

I'm looking at my last slot in particular, with ushifu- do I really need him? The 1hko vs magearna is nice but I feel weak in trick room outside of amoongus

(and yes, somehow my win rate vs cally-ice is decent)

[solid frigate]

Reg G?

Reg G is like over already

[scenic oriole]

Yeah reg G

Still playing for fun though

[solid frigate]

That’s a reg I Team

Do you mean Reg I/J?

[scenic oriole]

Yeah I meant J 😂

Im half awake, city safari yesterday for go and im drained lol

[solid frigate]

Kyogre Zama isn’t bad

Urshifu is fine here

Especially you have Amogus for TR MU anyway

Also why Foul Play

I can’t stress enough how you can just Tera Water Surging Strikes on Shadow Rider in rain can just delete it

Urshifu needs Detect instead of U-turn if you are running anything that is not choiced

[scenic oriole]

Honestly, its more tech to distrupt sweepers in trick room

Do see the use case in pollen puff though with kyo and zam

Def will look at detect- think I've used u-turn once lol

Speed wise with ursh, is it better to go max speed? Bulky set I'm pondering its value

[solid frigate]

Spore just kinda stops TR sweepers besides maybe Ursaluna (Regular)

Yet you still can just Rage powder

[scenic oriole]

True, and 9/10 I can bait em into quake and wide guard

[solid frigate]

Slow is fine but you have to at least be faster than CSR while Urshifu is in Tailwind

At least 112 Speed (not in EVs) to Outspeed Scarf Urshifu as well

[scenic oriole]

Yeah 112 looks to be the stat!

224 outspeeds all restricted outside of tailwind- with whims EV spec I ourspeed torn so can turn 1 taunt if needed to shut down their tailwind too

(Yes I went exactly for that speed ev just to annoy other tailwind teams, as most on the ladder is running whims seem to be bold 252 def or max speed torn? Lol)

[solid frigate]

Not sure for some other whims but like sure

There isn’t too many players playing that format that when I try play that format I just run away with Normal TW anyway

[scenic oriole]

@solid frigate thank you! Those adjustment suggestions worked-

My first top 500 on a VGC ladder has finally happened!

[gentle crag]

unscsnip3r_1997 has given 1 Gen Rep to morrispxg456

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/shotaro-hidari-hidari-shotaro-shotaro-hidari-kamken-rider-gif-5675975

Good job

[cyan smelt]

Man I wish I could be good at vgc

[tiny karma]

Move: Struggle

Deals typeless damage to a random opposing Pokemon. If this move was successful, the user loses 1/4 of its maximum HP, rounded half up, and the Rock Head Ability does not prevent this. This move is automatically used if none of the user's known moves can be selected.

Type

Normal

Category

Physical

Power

50

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

1 (1.6)

Move Flags

​

Contact

Makes contact.

Sableye version 4.28.4

[real prairie]

AH ITS TYPELESS

ffs

[cyan smelt]

did u get encore locked

[real prairie]

Nah, i encore locked someone else and then wasted a Tera to ghost thinking I would survive the hit being a normal type move

[visual flume]

bro this battle was so lame

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2451526744

[real prairie]

HAHAHAHA

Numel strats

reg H is wild

[visual flume]

Bro it took so long lmao

Real talk does anyone have any tips for playing agains peliper rain

this is my team https://pokepast.es/17c93fe406a624f8

[real prairie]

Gholdengo and P2

both can deal with Peli

[cyan smelt]

the basculegions on those teams are the more terrifying thing i think

[solid frigate]

+2 Lorb Shadow Ball should just kill it outright

[stone trellis]

Which one are you?

[scenic oriole]

unscsnip3r, now at 320 🙂

[stone trellis]

My best place was 468 or 486, I can't remember.

My peak rating was 1569.

[waxen dock]

my peak was somewhere top 10

every reg i aim to have 100 more elo

[stone trellis]

Cool.

I just try to win games, because there's no way I'll ever make it past 1700.

[waxen dock]

what place did you finish last reg?

this is 1500 btw

[waxen dock]

i think by worlds you will get to 1700

[foggy lodge]

That looks like a reg A team but with Ninetales

[waxen dock]

as far as i know in reg a people didnt use bombardier and noivern

[foggy lodge]

Didn't Bombirdier have some usage?

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 962: Bombirdier

Types

Flying/Dark

Abilities

Big Pecks, Keen Eye, Rocky Payload (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

70/103/85/60/85/82

Total

485

Sableye version 4.28.4

[stone trellis]

Currently floating around the high end of the 1400s.

[dapper crag]

We exist in a society

[stone trellis]

God, I wish I was as good at actually using my teams as I am at making EV spreads for them.
https://pokepast.es/7342d33903234ea3

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/VGCVictoryRoad/status/1972590796990992784

Victory Road VGC (@VGCVictoryRoad)

🔧 Sign-ups for Terastal Crescendo have been closed after causing an issue with the Grand Challenge II. They will open again on 6 October! 🪜

⚠️ If you had already signed up, you will need to register again!

X · Sep 29, 2025, 9:14 AM

[stone trellis]

Aren't the GC2/TCC taking place on October 3-5?

[real prairie]

thank fuck

[gentle crag]

averagejack_yt has given 1 Gen Rep to maxihd

[real prairie]

time to register for GC

anyone know if you can change your ride koraidon to the shiny one? 👀

[waxen dock]

tcg?

[stone trellis]

Terastal Crescendo Challenge.

TCC.

[waxen dock]

oh

the annoting tour will be a week after

also paul will you register for seniors or masters?

[stone trellis]

Masters, duh.

I registered for Seniors because I wasn't already aware that it works based on year of birth instead of your actual age.

[waxen dock]

but you wont get points

[stone trellis]

Why not?

Oh yeah, I'll finish last.

Oh well, it's still a way for me to test my skills against people from my actual age group.

[waxen dock]

you didnt connectyour nintendo account to the pokemon account

[stone trellis]

I will do it.

What do I need to do?

[waxen dock]

to connect you nintendo account to pokemon account and have player id

[stone trellis]

Yeah, how do I connect my Nintendo account to my Pokemon account?

That's the one thing I don't know how to do.

[waxen dock]

in the pokemon account menu

ok

i finaly know who the 3rd person who participated in the gc is

its some guy from oman

[stone trellis]

Where is that?

[waxen dock]

but this guy can make it so that i dont get points in this gc

[waxen dock]

in the official pokemon site

did you find it?

[stone trellis]

No, I didn't even see the message.

[waxen dock]

so now you found it?

[stone trellis]

No, I am doing other things.

Stop asking me.

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 1018: Archaludon

Types

Steel/Dragon

Abilities

Stamina, Sturdy, Stalwart (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

90/105/130/125/65/85

Total

600

Weight (Low Kick BP)

60kg (80 BP)

Height

2m

Introduced

Generation 9

Pre-evolution

Duraludon

Egg groups

Mineral, Dragon

Gender Ratio

M: 50%, F: 50%

Color

White

Sableye version 4.28.4

[stone trellis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regj-2451758190

Arceus teams when they have to beat a single Ice Rider with any form of redirection:

[stone trellis]

@mighty totem This is the one I was talking about.

(Sorry for the ping bg, I forgot to turn reply ping off)

[mighty totem]

yh thank u man

[gentle crag]

.cwazyh has given 1 Gen Rep to skywarsveteran1607

[mighty totem]

no worries lol i actually got it on too HAHA

ill try to build smt tonight and do few games with it

and actually get my switch to work again

[stone trellis]

By the way, you can't play Reg H on the in-game ranked ladder.

It's only Reg J, which is an entirely different format.

[mighty totem]

ye i wanted to try on showdown

[mighty totem]

ikik i am new but not this new AHGGAH

i had stopped playin it on my switch for a while cuz well it was pretty gone and my joycons had drift so yh

i just bought a pad so time to comeback

• i never understood if u could give urself the pokemons or u gotta create em all manually? cuz i mean yh ofc u shouldnt give urself pokemons but r we sure out of all them players joining tournaments none of them give theirselves any pokemon?

[stone trellis]

What is the difference?

[mighty totem]

i mean using third party things to give urself alr setupped pokemons

[stone trellis]

That is illegal.

The Pokemon have to be obtained from actual users within the game and EV trained by them.

[mighty totem]

yh thats what i thought

well ty that was all

[waxen dock]

travel award im coming(hoppefully)

its for worlds

[stone trellis]

We know.

Well, good luck.

It'd be fun if a world champion came from this server.

[waxen dock]

nah

[stone trellis]

Have faith in yourself.

[waxen dock]

but idk if it the travel award is only for masters

i hope it isnt

[waxen dock]

first i need to qualify for worlds

[stone trellis]

Is the MESA scene large or top-heavy?

[waxen dock]

lets say

in the gc there wre 26 masters

[stone trellis]

So that's not a lot.

Seniors is generally smaller, you shouldn't have too hard of a time qualifying.

[mighty totem]

yall got this guysss

• i mean...

26 masters is much

[waxen dock]

3 seniors

And i was one of the.

3 seniors

From 1.5 continents

[stone trellis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regj-2451821796

Discharge is actual ragebait.

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regj-2451830223

[mighty totem]

guys do yall think lagging tail is usable?

[mighty totem]

ofc i mean lagging tail + switcheroo

[real prairie]

That team that won though 😱

[real prairie]

Lagging tail prankster trick is always a viable niche, usually in CTS though

[mighty totem]

i see, thank you

[gentle crag]

.cwazyh has given 1 Gen Rep to averagejack_yt

[mighty totem]

i actually tried it sometimes and i pretty much like it

ofc ppl must learn how to use meta etc, but hey also having fun is a must

[real prairie]

It's not terrific in open teamsheets as people will protect around it and kill the trick Mon

[real prairie]

I can't figure out what the team is doing lol

[mighty totem]

they are all unique pokemons too, i mean they dont repeat in eachother teams lol (besides some that r x2)

[foggy lodge]

Meta defining team dropped

[slim crest]

Cynthia's team

[foggy lodge]

Is this the call for Gdansk

[slim crest]

nice

[real prairie]

Is it actually? 🤣

[stone trellis]

Yeah, except with Gastrodon over Togekiss.

All the other Pokemon are the same.

[foggy lodge]

Yeah but Cynthia also used Gastro

[stone trellis]

I wonder what the sets are...

[real prairie]

Didn't know she had a lucario

Wild they won with a Cynthia team 🤣

[slim crest]

yeah, the original diamond/pearl team

she didn't had togekiss in those

[real prairie]

Mad

[stone trellis]

I need to figure out how I can improve my team.

[solid frigate]

She has one in DPPT

[stone trellis]

The one in #rental_teams.

Anyone got any suggestions?

[slim crest]

CSR looks like a problem to your team

[stone trellis]

Oh, it is.

Unless I'm allowed to position Miraidon and Whimsicott next to each other.

But I can't always do that.

Wide Guard also helps.

[stone trellis]

Any ideas for adjustments I could make?

[real prairie]

Drop firepon for rock pon, lose Whims for a second redirector. drop the speed on landorus and go full bulk mode and commit to the TR team

[stone trellis]

Bet.

Who would the second redirector be?

[molten oasis]

Do you need 2?

[stone trellis]

Amoonguss gets fucked by Grass types and Electric Terrain and Indeedee messes up Mirai's shit.

Farigiraf could work for the priority blocking.

[stone trellis]

I don't know, do I?

[molten oasis]

Idt miraidon teams need 2 redirectors

[stone trellis]

Grimmsnarl is calling to me like the Green Goblin mask.

[real prairie]

swap to scarf miradon too imo, early game switcher and late game sweep

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-smeargle-paint-gif-6097389656694674378

[stone trellis]

I like the flexibility and sheer unkillableness of AV.

Scarf has never worked for me.

I can't make it work at all.

[real prairie]

fair, keep AV then

go bulky and you could even use it in TR

[molten oasis]

I like scarf Mirai

[stone trellis]

It was bulky originally.

[real prairie]

especially with CIR

[molten oasis]

Yeah shit cooks

[stone trellis]

Then I lost a game because some fucktard was running 164 Speed Zama.

[real prairie]

you will always face fringe sets, especially in SD, you can't account for everything

if you only see a set once every 25-30 games, its not something to stress about.

[stone trellis]

164 is one of the most common sets for Zama...

[slim crest]

if he went scarf miraidon could open up to switch valiant for hands

[real prairie]

oh my bad

[real prairie]

thats naughty

[slim crest]

having the option to either fake out or redirect to set up TR

[stone trellis]

Hands redirects?

Also, I want the Coaching stuff.

[slim crest]

hands for the fake out, ogerpon for the redirect

[stone trellis]

You don't understand how sauced it is.

It is the only thing on my team standing between Tera Normal +2 E-Speed Arceus with Sword of Ruin + Lorb and total annihilation.

As it turns out, +1 Ice Rider takes that junk to the chin.

And Miraidon messes up Ogerpon's Sturdy (Ogerpon also cannot OHKO Magearna, which is a big fucking problem).

[slim crest]

oh, you're using discharge

I think volt switch would be better

[stone trellis]

Paras have won me games.

And I don't want to be forced into switching when I want to use a non-contact move.

I know it isn't good, but it works.

You said CSR is a problem for this team and I am yet to see a suggestion that actually helps kill CSR or neuter its damage.

[slim crest]

I would swap valiant for sucker punch grimm, reflect would also help with your Arceus problem

[stone trellis]

Coaching is infinitely better, but aight.

Guess Light Screen helps too.

[stone trellis]

And adding Wide Guard and Feint to the mix tips the scales.

Guess Cloak Tera Dark Valiant could work.

At least it prevents all the turn 1 Fake Out mind games.

[solid frigate]

Foul play in question:

[stone trellis]

Foul Play on who?

[solid frigate]

Grimm

[slim crest]

even better

[solid frigate]

Like sucker punch kinda just won’t work when Fari or Psychic Terrain exists

[stone trellis]

Yeah, I know.

[solid frigate]

I wasn’t Refering to you tho

[slim crest]

yeah, I focused too much on a guaranted OHKO

[real prairie]

nah hands was just another idea

[slim crest]

foul play it's not guaranted against 0 atk IV but is indeed more reliable

[tiny karma]

Iron Hands's moveset:

Physical Moves

Arm Thrust, Body Press, Body Slam, Brick Break, Bulldoze, Close Combat, Double-Edge, Drain Punch, Earthquake, Facade, Fake Out, Fire Punch, Fling, Focus Punch, Force Palm, Giga Impact, Hard Press, Heavy Slam, Ice Punch, Iron Head, Low Kick, Low Sweep, Play Rough, Reversal, Rock Slide, Rock Tomb, Seismic Toss, Slam, Stomping Tantrum, Supercell Slam, Tackle, Take Down, Thunder Punch, Wild Charge

Special Moves

Focus Blast, Hyper Beam, Tera Blast, Thunder, Thunderbolt, Volt Switch

Status Moves

Belly Drum, Charge, Detect, Electric Terrain, Endure, Focus Energy, Iron Defense, Metronome, Protect, Rest, Sand Attack, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Swords Dance, Whirlwind

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Iron Hands.

Sableye version 4.28.4

Filters

• Learns Coaching

Results (81)

Poliwrath, Machop, Machoke, Machamp, Machamp-Gmax, Hitmonlee, Hitmonchan, Zapdos-Galar, Mew, Heracross, Heracross-Mega, Sneasel-Hisui, Hitmontop, Combusken, Blaziken, Blaziken-Mega, Makuhita, Hariyama, Infernape, Riolu, Lucario, Lucario-Mega, Croagunk, Toxicroak, Gallade, Gallade-Mega, Pignite, Emboar, Timburr, Gurdurr, Conkeldurr, Throh, Sawk, Lilligant-Hisui, Scraggy, Scrafty, Mienfoo, Mienshao, Cobalion, Terrakion, Virizion, Keldeo, Keldeo-Resolute, Meloetta, Meloetta-Pirouette, Chesnaught, Pancham, Pangoro, Hawlucha, Decidueye-Hisui, Crabrawler, Crabominable, Stufful, Bewear, Passimian, Hakamo-o, Kommo-o, Buzzwole, Pheromosa, Marshadow, Zeraora, Cinderace, Cinderace-Gmax, Clobbopus, Grapploct, Sirfetch’d, Falinks, Zamazenta, Zamazenta-Crowned, Kubfu, Urshifu, Urshifu-Rapid-Strike, Urshifu-Gmax, Urshifu-Rapid-Strike-Gmax, Sneasler, Quaquaval, Pawmo, Pawmot, Annihilape, Iron Valiant, Iron Leaves

Generation

natdex

Transferred Pokémon

Included

Sableye version 4.28.4

[real prairie]

@stone trellis if you dropped whimms for Smeargle you could go decorate and then use hands over Valiant

decorate on AV Miraidon sounds naughty too

[bold geode]

Chat we cookin for GC or what

[slim crest]

my team is ready

I will be playing something different from what I'm used to, but already did some testing in the showdown ladder

[real prairie]

Got my team locked in

[molten oasis]

I have to build my team

[real prairie]

floating between 1500-1600 in BO1

[molten oasis]

My team hit 1600 and I played a little today to really lock it down

I should be good

[real prairie]

what archtype you running?

[molten oasis]

Chomp a9 dengo balance

[real prairie]

eeww

but GL

[molten oasis]

Chomp a9 isn’t even top of the meta wtf

And my dengo set isn’t standard either

[real prairie]

i know, i just hate A9 teams haha

[molten oasis]

Ig you play rain, fair enough

[real prairie]

haha yeah, have to for Ludicolo

[molten oasis]

Yeah

[real prairie]

maybe ill play with a real team 1 day

[molten oasis]

A9’s my favorite of the format I take it to everything

[real prairie]

but today is not that day

[solid frigate]

Running back with the same team

[molten oasis]

lol

I also have grown to like Garchomp a lot

He’s a cool guy

[slim crest]

I really like A9 too, used it on the first GC

will be playing hyper offense this time

[molten oasis]

I bought this yesterday

It’s a little derpy but it’s cute

[real prairie]

TBH my worst MU are Primarina and recently Sylveon

[molten oasis]

Primarina is kinda real again

[real prairie]

Specs Sylveon hits like a fucking truck

[molten oasis]

[real prairie]

yeah its annoying

[molten oasis]

Annoying mons, I like Primarina a lot it just doesn’t work for me

[bold geode]

Primarina is coming back and I don't like it

It's mid
Let it stay mid

[molten oasis]

I know you don’t like it especially lmfao

Water fairy is just, crazy typing

[bold geode]

I prefer the better Water type

[molten oasis]

I forgot about that stupid fckn dolphin photo

[bold geode]

You have no idea the amount of time it took me to find it again

[real prairie]

I almost put the dolphin in as my 6th lol

went with Basc instead

[bold geode]

Bro I'm just saying

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 964: Palafin-Hero

Type

Water

Abilities

Zero to Hero

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/160/97/106/87/100

Total

650

Base Species

Palafin

Sableye version 4.28.4

[bold geode]

Look at that Atk stat

[real prairie]

106 wasted stats

painful

[bold geode]

Water type damage from that rn? Crazy

[bold geode]

I once fought a Boom burst Hydro Pump Palafin

[molten oasis]

LMAO

That’s a wild set

[molten oasis]

Idt palafin needs to be any faster hit any harder or be any harder to kill ty

flashbacks of reg b

[bold geode]

Let it be faster, it would be so fucking funny

[real prairie]

I had someone face me earlier with a role play Greninja

[bold geode]

Chat I actually have salsa for my nachos lfg

[real prairie]

it roleplayed my Swift swim lol

[bold geode]

Yeah but no at this point I'm basically becoming Palafin's strongest soldier

[tiny karma]

Palafin's moveset:

Physical Moves

Acrobatics, Aqua Jet, Aqua Tail, Astonish, Body Slam, Bounce, Close Combat, Counter, Dive, Double Hit, Drain Punch, Endeavor, Facade, Fling, Flip Turn, Focus Punch, Giga Impact, Hard Press, Ice Punch, Iron Head, Jet Punch, Liquidation, Outrage, Reversal, Take Down, Throat Chop, Waterfall, Wave Crash, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Aura Sphere, Blizzard, Boomburst, Chilling Water, Disarming Voice, Draining Kiss, Focus Blast, Grass Knot, Hydro Pump, Hyper Beam, Hyper Voice, Ice Beam, Icy Wind, Surf, Swift, Tera Blast, Water Gun, Water Pulse, Whirlpool

Status Moves

Agility, Bulk Up, Charm, Encore, Endure, Focus Energy, Haze, Helping Hand, Mist, Protect, Psych Up, Rain Dance, Rest, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Supersonic, Taunt, Tickle

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Palafin.

Sableye version 4.28.4

[molten oasis]

lol

[bold geode]

Y'know what's great about that movepool

All the status moves except for Protect aren't even worth running LMAO

[real prairie]

focus energy could be funny with its Atk stat lol

[bold geode]

Yeah but it's better to just attack

[molten oasis]

True

[real prairie]

I was trying to be nice 🤣

[mental mason]

So I'm still in the process of getting into VGC and would like some help team building. Did some Reg I for in June then stopped for a bit. I'm looking to go to an actual local and as such, am building a Reg H team (that's the format for October, right?). I've got the following team atm, and need two mons to flesh it out. I was wanting at least one more SpA attacker and something to disrupt rain teams too. Picked Gholdengo/Dragonite as my sweepers, Incin to deal with enemy Gholdengos/support and Rillaboom since I like Grass Terrain.

https://pokepast.es/48e3860fc2c6c77c

[slim crest]

since your team looks like it's leaning more to balance, I would go with A-Ninetales and Bloodmoon Ursa

[mental mason]

[slim crest]

Ursa could use a leftovers calm mind set

ou just the yawn

[mental mason]

I like the A-Ninetails. Came to that as an option with Aurora Veil.

[slim crest]

yeah, plus speed control with icy wind since your team doesn't have tailwind

[mental mason]

Hmm. I could switch Haze out on Dragonite if I grab Haze on A-Ninetailsm maybe?

[slim crest]

I don't think A9 learns haze

[mental mason]

...that would be correct. I was thinking of Primarina who I was also looking at atm.

[cyan smelt]

you're better off running encore on ninetales to encore lock dozos into protect

[slim crest]

swaping into arch and locking them into electro shot without rain

nasty

[left bobcat]

TOXIC

[lofty tartan]

Nachos without salsa are just shitty chips.

[bold geode]

Real

[spiral ridge]

Nahh just do like ground beef over salsa

[foggy lodge]

what is that

[lofty tartan]

Not even remotely close. You add a protein with the salsa, not instead of it. How is it a nacho without some sort of spice? If you're talking about chips and cheese sauce, those aren't nachos, those are trash

Blasphemy.

[bold geode]

Nah blud you need some salsa even with meat

[bold geode]

Y'know what I did
I got some fajita seasoned rotisserie chicken, put that and some cheese on some chips, added salsa and said fuck it we ball

[spiral ridge]

I don’t like salsa

I do well seasoned beef cheese and whatever else I please

Some tomato chunks maybe

Don’t like sour cream much either both just taste meh to me

Leftover steak is usually banger too

[lofty tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/disgusted-ew-that-look-he-gives-gross-gag-gif-17228959905536428194

[rustic mountain]

5 year old me during my first playthrough

"this move doesnt do damage? ew"

[bold geode]

You lil bitch

[bold geode]

True

[spiral ridge]

What

It doesn’t taste good to me

[bold geode]

Being a lil bitch about salsa

That's some voodoo shit

[spiral ridge]

I’d rather say I don’t like it than force myself to eat it

[solid frigate]

W h a t

[spiral ridge]

What??

You’ve never used leftover steak to make nachos

It’s like same idea as using them in steak omelette

[stone trellis]

I want Coaching because it ups defense AND offense at the same time, not just for the offense.

You know how heartbreaking it is for a Koraidon player to see Life Orb CC doing 35% unresisted?

That's not something you achieve through Light Screen or Reflect.

[stone trellis]

Imagine SD Palafin.

If it gets to the finals of a regional, we might have a repeat of the Worlds 2016 incident.

[cyan smelt]

idk if this balance team sounds alright, rilla, blaziken, prim, electabuzz, gliscor and gambit

[mighty stump]

I am alive

I went and returned on my first Japan trip

I shed tears when I left

poke haul

[solid frigate]

BLASTOISE MENTIONED

[dapper crag]

The worst starter of all time

With a mid mega

[molten oasis]

Wait that awesome man, which cities did you visit?

[mighty stump]

Just Tokyo but we went AROUND

Did hella shopping

Already planning my next trip

[cyan smelt]

Japan seems lit

[mighty stump]

It is not overrated at all

[cyan smelt]

I want to go to Kyoto

[molten oasis]

Nice, how long were you there?

[cyan smelt]

Did you learn any Japanese for the trip

[dapper crag]

[molten oasis]

[knotty mirage]

I have question can modest scarf miraidon outspeed timid scarf landorus ?

[gentle crag]

Result: 280.500000

Result: 252.000000

[real prairie]

Yes

28 points faster to be exact

[real prairie]

Well hello Mr. Fu. Long time no speak

[cyan smelt]

how's things jack

[real prairie]

Morning Mate! Keeping on keeping on, looking forward to giving up on GC after 15 games again this weekend

wbu?

[cyan smelt]

haha i need to scrape together a team

gonna test gliscor, blaziken, kingambit, palafin, rilla and electabuzz soon

i did well with balance last reg h so i figure i should try it again

eject pack palafin sounds like fire tbh

[real prairie]

yeah thats good shit for GC

[cyan smelt]

with coaching blaziken ensures super powered jet punches

[real prairie]

Who is electabuzz enabling?

like for set up, Gambit?

[cyan smelt]

it's for some speed control and redirecting close combats and body presses for gambit

[mighty stump]

very basic phrases tbh i tried

[mighty stump]

10 days too short

[cyan smelt]

i've also got tera ghost gambit to avoid cc and body press

i prefer tera ghost to tera dark

also i've noticed some gholdengos running trick so i don't want to be tricked specs

[real prairie]

fair, screams like having Volcarona on the team too though

1 special set up sweeper, 1 physical

[cyan smelt]

idt volc does too well with fast psyspam

i already have coaching blaziken

[real prairie]

You don't lead volc into psyspam then haha

[cyan smelt]

also idk whether tbolt or eweb electabuzz is better

[real prairie]

ewebs if you dont have any other speed control

[cyan smelt]

was considering drum beating rilla too

[mighty totem]

reg H: I wanted to ask what do yall think abt this team and what would yall change (i was thinking kingambit tera poison>dark and poison jab>still need to figure out) : Maushold-Four @ Lagging Tail
Ability: Friend Guard
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Dark
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 SpA

• Switcheroo
• Follow Me
• U-turn
• Super Fang

Ursaluna-Bloodmoon @ Assault Vest
Ability: Mind's Eye
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Quiet Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 0 Spe

• Blood Moon
• Hyper Voice
• Earth Power
• Vacuum Wave

Kingambit @ Room Service
Ability: Defiant
Tera Type: Poison
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Brave Nature
IVs: 0 SpA / 0 Spe

• Swords Dance
• Iron Head
• Protect
• Poison Jab

Sableye @ Covert Cloak
Ability: Prankster
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
IVs: 0 SpA / 0 Spe

• Focus Punch
• Skill Swap
• Protect
• Fake Out

Whimsicott @ Focus Sash
Ability: Prankster
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
IVs: 0 HP / 0 Atk / 0 Def / 0 SpD

• Endeavor
• Trick Room
• Moonblast
• Helping Hand

Hatterene @ Life Orb
Ability: Magic Bounce
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Quiet Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 0 Spe

• Dazzling Gleam
• Protect
• Trick Room
• Psych Up

I tried to do it from 0 with no knowledge as it is my first ever competitive team i tried to make and i first made many losses to understand the start etc but after understanding i did actually 10+ wins and no losses (at start elo, smt like 1000 to 1200) - Would yall change anything?

im at school rn so i might not answer quickly

[real prairie]

use Pokepaste, PLEASE

[mighty totem]

cant send images...

i actually triend before sending allat import

[cyan smelt]

pokepaste is not an image

[solid frigate]

It’s a link

[solid frigate]

There are

A lot of problems in this team

[real prairie]

in SD, at the bottom it says "Export to Pokepaste", do that and send the link

[solid frigate]

Hatterene without Indeedee is the first I see

[cyan smelt]

maus without ape

[solid frigate]

You can get away with it without ape

[cyan smelt]

yeah but lagging tail though

there's too many supports

[solid frigate]

That’s like

1 of the 11 things I can see there is wrong with

At least

Sableye and Whimsicott are not needed

Let alone the their sets can’t exploit how good they are

[cyan smelt]

tr whimsicott seems like bo1 cts stuff

which can work with torkoal and sunny day

[solid frigate]

Let’s not talk about Bo1 CTS stuff cuz this is Bo1 stuff

Maus can stay

Sableye and Whimsicott need to go if this is Hard TR

[cyan smelt]

indeedee and gallade are good for hard tr

[solid frigate]

Unless they wanna do tailroom then the whole team needs to change

[cyan smelt]

tailroom seems really tricky to get right, that's why i decided to go balance

[real prairie]

Looks like its caught between 2 ideas, i imagine there is some thinking into skill swapping prankster to Maus, but in reality just put Trick on Sabeleye

[real prairie]

ive just gone zero speed control and have some fast some slow mons 🤣

[cyan smelt]

well you don't need speed control when you have ludicolo