Fight me 
#competitive_discussion
dapper crag
bold geode
#1046572041421197352 for that
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.4
foggy lodge
It can miss huh
dense latch
wtf how bulky is that dnite
lofty tartan
I had 4 disconnects round 1
My opp had a Switch 2 but no controller connected.
The docks themselves are only stands. There's nothing connected to them whatsoever.
There is a USB hub at each seat. You connect your switch and your controller to that.
But yeah the docks were garbage.
bold geode
There's a guy at 0-7 playing rn
Bro's in it for the love of the game at that point LOL
solid frigate
There's a guy at 0-7 playing rn
Bro's in it for the love of the game at that poi...
Honestly
Massive respect for him to keep going
bold geode
Honestly
Massive respect for him to keep going
He lost R8 
solid frigate
He lost R8 <:KEKW:882204003138699284>
0-8 Goal Achieved
Do we have the teams later on?
real prairie
i feel for him, he didn't even get any of the other dropouts for the buy š¤£
real prairie
Do we have the teams later on?
not if they are as slow as last weekend
I think scyther fits my team š¤£
rain dance ā defog ā Can oneshot Rillaboom ā
raw lodge
A friend told me to hyper train my slyveon but I'm confused on which I should do
dense latch
A friend told me to hyper train my slyveon but I'm confused on which I should do
hyper train everything but attack
raw lodge
He said only focus on 3
dense latch
that's EVs
raw lodge
Oh
dense latch
hyper training maximises your IVs
dense latch
pittsburgh teams are out ā¼ļø
dense latch
man people weren't exaggerating about the bloodmoon resets
foggy lodge
wdym
dense latch
trying to get a 0 atk iv bloodmoon and the resets are like three minutes long
dense latch
bronzong in day 2 too
av sinistcha + gliscor
rajan bal made day 2 with kanto ninetales
bold geode
Lucario made day 2
X
molten oasis
Omg piccolo made day 2
hallow quartz
Does anyone know any good teams with reshiram or zekrom for competitive?
solid frigate
Does anyone know any good teams with reshiram or zekrom for competitive?
Hate to break it to you but the Gen 5 Restricteds sucks competitively-
ornate forge
they do
my favorite is yveltal which is hard to use with xerneas
but yeah its needs like a powerful special dark move
foggy lodge
solid frigate
my favorite is yveltal which is hard to use with xerneas
Yveltal isn't that bad compare to the gen 5 bois
cyan smelt
Yveltal + kingambit would be fun
solid frigate
wouldn't prefer for Dark type spam unless they have different reason to use like how Shiliang Tang's Kyogre Wo Chien Team does
bold geode
Omg piccolo made day 2
Tf you mean
molten oasis
Tf you mean
Look at the lucarios name
bold geode
molten oasis
Idiot lmao
bold geode
Idk I was too focused on piss jackal
ornate forge
Yveltal isn't that bad compare to the gen 5 bois
yeah it isnt bad
but its never like the best thing to use
cyan smelt
Had some success in swsh
ornate forge
yeah
solid frigate
yeah it isnt bad
like Yveltal is a good case of a Supporting Restricted
it has the utility using Foul Play and Snarl iirc
ornate forge
yeah it usually uses like 3 dark moves and protect
or four with an assault vest
foul play sucker punch snarl knock off
oblivion wing too it can use
solid frigate
yeah it usually uses like 3 dark moves and protect
you can debate a case for Oblivion Wing for survivability but yeah like these 3 are standard
ornate forge
it also gets like tailwind
molten oasis
Flying type restricted that isnāt ho-oh? Crazy
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.4
molten oasis
Raging bolt bulk but mixed attacker
ornate forge
i actually like the pokemon alot
molten oasis
And faster than shifu thatās big
ornate forge
gonna try and use it
oak finch
Flying type restricted that isnāt ho-oh? Crazy
Lugia silver gang š
solid frigate
Flying type restricted that isnāt ho-oh? Crazy
and its a support restricted that done right this time pre Gen 7
solid frigate
Lugia silver gang š
thats a dissapointment
fresh remnant
Guys what reg is it atm and what reg is it shifting towards too say December time
hallow quartz
Hate to break it to you but the Gen 5 Restricteds sucks competitively-
oh š any teams with ogerpon then?
fresh remnant
Hey can anyone help me ā¦.
solid frigate
Hey can anyone help me ā¦.
there are plenty of teams that uses Ogerpon
just depend which restricteds are you using and see if it fits the team
oak finch
Guys what reg is it atm and what reg is it shifting towards too say December tim...
its regulation H for vgc events, regulation J for in game ladder, we dont know whats next
solid frigate
there are plenty of teams that uses Ogerpon
@oak finch i did not ping you sorry
oak finch
cyan smelt
Ik tofu said hyper cutter gliscor was better but honestly poison heal seems better since you don't have to worry bout dire claw crap
solid frigate
Itās more like
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.4
solid frigate
Consistent damage over on something a little redirection can solve
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.4
cyan smelt
Covert cloak also solves dire claw stuff
solid frigate
Thatās why poison heal is unecessary when the other ability and different counterplay can help over your consistency
cyan smelt
Poison heal must be better in singles
solid frigate
Poison heal must be better in singles
Oh 100% because Gliscor is a Tamer Stall mon
molten oasis
This mon is so ass
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.4
fathom geyser
When did gen 5 OU become a stallfest like any other none RBY ou meta?
dapper crag
When did gen 5 OU become a stallfest like any other none RBY ou meta?
A while ago 
fathom geyser
A while ago <a:zSuaveganonLaugh:1105631110089687061>
Last time I played gems were legal
dapper crag
I love it when players get whiplash
fathom geyser
I really just wanted to bash out a few games with a generic hyper offense rain slop team featuring gengar but I got PP stalled by a kyrem and walled by a blissey.
Actually, my hail team from back then preyed on slow stall slop teams. Maybe 'tis the ice cream cone's moment š«
Nvm, I am convinced that the singles rule council's ranks are just filled with skarmory fanboys and it's all a psyop where the metal bird wins hence the only decentish OU meta being gen 1 (if they removed chansey from the game)
short quiver
Nvm, I am convinced that the singles rule council's ranks are just filled with s...
its so unfortunate skarmory cant do much else besides stall
fathom geyser
They really just need to bring back gems for gen 5
short quiver
They really just need to bring back gems for gen 5
they might in champions
but weāre getting zmoves so idk
the gems were like zmoves but worse
fathom geyser
You could do flying gem acrobatics and the animation isn't a massive waste of time so gems are Z moves but better actually.
short quiver
You could do flying gem acrobatics and the animation isn't a massive waste of ti...
in one scenario. one singular scenario.
fathom geyser
I am still convinced that dynamax is only hated because it added an additional 5 minutes of cutscenes to every game.
short quiver
nah its cuz they significantly increase the pokemons max hp
and adds secondsry effects to everything
fathom geyser
I liked everything about it gameplay wise, everything but the animations. They were the reason why I exclusively shiny hunted on that game lmao
short quiver
im attempting to get a shiny Zoro-H
fathom geyser
I love mechanics that let me drop a hydrogen bomb on a coughing baby but I will quit the game if it takes more than 5 seconds to do it.
fathom geyser
im attempting to get a shiny Zoro-H
Good luck, hope you get it soon.
short quiver
Good luck, hope you get it soon.
š«
my last shiny hunt took me a week
therefore my hopes are not high
fathom geyser
I've been on and off at shiny purrloin for around 2 years now lmao
short quiver
i hunted for a shiny hatenna with its mystical fire egg move
i succeeded
i dont know HOW many boxes i filled with hatenna hatches
real prairie
Waiting for VGC day 2 and scrolled upon this...
REAL!
Looking at teams from Yday, hariyama 7-1
Araquanid 6-2
stable forge
yo can someone give me some feedback on ma competitive team?
pulsar cloak
Araquanid 6-2
This player dropped I think
real prairie
yo can someone give me some feedback on ma competitive team?
Sure
But please use a poke paste lol
stable forge
But please use a poke paste lol
whats that xD
stable forge
alr
figured it out
https://pokepast.es/b17ec6411a1da1f2
its my first team i made from scratch and im not sure about ice rider atm, ik u can have two restricted but im not sure
stable forge
Then share that link
also do u think the leftovers work with lunala? ive used it to try to activate shadow shield multiple times but idk if a different held item would work better, i could go with the power herb and meteor beam but i like the move set ive got on lunala
and im thinking i wanna put amoongus on the team
but idk who to drop for amoongus
real prairie
https://pokepast.es/b17ec6411a1da1f2
its my first team i made from scratch and ...
Looks like a good basis for a hard TR team. Lefties Lunala is fine
Creslia is a bit crept though
stable forge
Creslia is a bit crept though
it is? i found luna blessing works well with lunala, any other suggestions for a replacement then?
real prairie
it is? i found luna blessing works well with lunala, any other suggestions for a...
Amoongus, gets heals and is the slowest thing in the format
Plus gets redirection
stable forge
alr
real prairie
hmm, and do u think caly ice would work well or nah?
Yeah, usual hard TR sweeper
stable forge
alr
real prairie
You can check the usual spreads on Munchstats.com
stable forge
alr thats helpful
also what ability is better for amoongus? regenerator or the one that gives status effects
real prairie
Regen
stable forge
alr
real prairie
As it means you don't accidentally status a pokemon you want to spore
solid frigate
As it means you don't accidentally status a pokemon you want to spore
Also adding to the fact that this team is super clunky to pilot as well
real prairie
Also adding to the fact that this team is super clunky to pilot as well
Yeah, that's Hard TR in general
But assumed they knew that having made a hard TR team
solid frigate
You donāt need swords Dance on Ursaluna when it just nukes everything
stable forge
You donāt need swords Dance on Ursaluna when it just nukes everything
alr
real prairie
You donāt need swords Dance on Ursaluna when it just nukes everything
Yeah didn't really go into the movesets
stable forge
what should i replace it with
stable forge
Also adding to the fact that this team is super clunky to pilot as well
wdym by that
solid frigate
Helping hand Indeedee over heal pulse
Incineroarās has some weird EV spreads
Lunala can use Moonblast instead of Gleam
I would talk about how to make the team better but I am still tired of Coming back from Near London to Manchester at midnight so
solid frigate
what should i replace it with
Facade Headlong Rush,Earthquake Protect and Tera Ghost
real prairie
im pretty sure indeedee has helping hand and heal pulse
Most don't run heal pulse anymore
stable forge
Most don't run heal pulse anymore
yea i was tryna keep lunala at high health
whats wrong with incin evs?
solid frigate
You either be Ben grissmer and use Healing Wish but thatās like
Not recommended if you donāt know what to do
real prairie
yea i was tryna keep lunala at high health
Redirection is the best way to do this
stable forge
hmmm
real prairie
As it has wide guard to stop spread attacks already
stable forge
Redirection is the best way to do this
i mean like using shadow shield multiple times
solid frigate
whats wrong with incin evs?
Special attack EVs(I know itās a dump) but you can just invest on HP Def and SpD,attack isnāt that necessary to when Incin still does a lot with Blitz and Sun is popular in Double Restricteds
real prairie
i mean like using shadow shield multiple times
Don't let it get hit and lefties will do that
stable forge
Don't let it get hit and lefties will do that
alright
solid frigate
Also Lunala just needs one shadow Shield and you are fine most of the time
stable forge
so u reckon moonblast over dazzle? i have dazzle as a second spread option is psychic terrain istn up like if i leave indeedee behind
real prairie
so u reckon moonblast over dazzle? i have dazzle as a second spread option is ps...
Yes, moonblast
solid frigate
Lunala doesnāt need spread moves imo
You have CIR for that
stable forge
Special attack EVs(I know itās a dump) but you can just invest on HP Def and SpD...
oh yeah forgot about ice rider
real prairie
Yeah it doesn't need psyspam, moongeint and moonblast are usually fine
stable forge
kk
solid frigate
https://x.com/torrentaegisvgc/status/1969620815646712140?s=46
@real prairie final team for my SV Journey unless we still have SV for Jan-Feb
X
real prairie
https://x.com/torrentaegisvgc/status/1969620815646712140?s=46
<@330362488447041...
Cool graphic
solid frigate
Cool graphic
I did not made the emblems lmao
Itās from Kamen Rider Series lol
real prairie
i just realised i did give incin sp atk evs for some reason
Grab some premade spreads from munchstat to start with then adjust them to your needs
real prairie
is porygon2 used in this formatt?
Not really
solid frigate
Also with Indeedee you donāt need Cresselia
real prairie
More reg H
solid frigate
Like at all
stable forge
alr
also how important are the ivs like 0 speed iv and that cus i got a shiny indeedee for the team after too long and its speed iv is prob a bit too high
solid frigate
Usually on hard TR it really depends on which mon do you want to Outspeed Inside TR
real prairie
Indeedee isn't a huge issue to have slightly higher speed, it's just going to spam follow me or helping hand anyway
stable forge
whats hard trickroom mean btw, and im not too sure tbh im just tryna make a team to start out with and based off what ive seen and the very few teams ive used ive made this team so im not very sure about much
stable forge
Indeedee isn't a huge issue to have slightly higher speed, it's just going to sp...
yeah fair
real prairie
whats hard trickroom mean btw, and im not too sure tbh im just tryna make a team...
It means the team is exclusively used inside of TR
stable forge
ohhh
it seems kind of difficult to make it work both ways
atm on amoongus hes got spore, pollen puff and rage powder what should the last move be
clear smog? protect?
or do i give him another attacking move
also what tera type on amoongus
does lunala need trick room btw?
solid frigate
100% Protect and usually depends on your matchup and yes Lunala having Trick Room isnāt bad
stable forge
what should last move be?
stable forge
100% Protect and usually depends on your matchup and yes Lunala having Trick Roo...
kk
solid frigate
what should last move be?
High horsepower
stable forge
bet
stable forge
100% Protect and usually depends on your matchup and yes Lunala having Trick Roo...
what move would i drop on lunala?
solid frigate
what move would i drop on lunala?
Actually expanding Force since Moongeist+Moonblast is enough for Lunala
stable forge
Actually expanding Force since Moongeist+Moonblast is enough for Lunala
really?
hmm
am i ever gonna tera amoongus?
what tera would i put on em
solid frigate
am i ever gonna tera amoongus?
Again,really depends over on what MU are you lacking
MU means Matchup
stone trellis
Usually, Tera Dark works for it.
You gain an immunity to Prankster Taunt/Encore and you lose all of Amoonguss' original weaknesses.
stone trellis
100-point difference... How is this fair for the other guy?
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regj-2446221571-k84b990v2utaah5x54nnd5w3df44l6xpw
Iron Valiant is the GOAT of this team, I wouldn't have won without Coaching or Feint.
forest arrow
CB Ttar
forest arrow
Goodmorning pookie 
bold geode
Goodmorning pookie <:GengHeart:674147120634396672>
Morning pookie 
ALSO FINALLY SOME FUCKING SAND ON STREAM
pulsar cloak
ALSO FINALLY SOME FUCKING SAND ON STREAM
Round 6
bold geode
I didn't see it there, gotta watch back I guess
bold geode
Primarina and Hariyama on stream
waxen dock
made some changes too my team, lmk what yall think
You need mwteor beam instead of dgleam
Dgleam doeant do any damage
stable forge
mm
i didnt really wanna use meteor beam on this lunala, its running a left overs instead and i originally had moonblast instead of dazzle but ive used the team a bit and i just like dazzling gleam on it
also i just got my shiny teddiursa for the team yall
only need 2 more shinies
foggy lodge
Dazzling gleam is way worse than moonblast
And more when you are running CIR + expanding force on Lunala
Makes it way harder than it should to play around wide guard
And dazzling gleam is just way weaker because its effectively a 60 BP move vs moonblast which is 95
jovial storm
So I know I am way out of the game by asking g this but I am wanting to send my Yveltal to Home but wanted to train the black bird before I sent him over.
waxen dock
So I know I am way out of the game by asking g this but I am wanting to send my ...
send him over to where?
jovial storm
Does anyone have any good ideas for EV spread? I was thinking something on the fast yet defensive side.
pulsar cloak
It resets EVs everytime you send a Mon to another game iirc
waxen dock
It resets EVs everytime you send a Mon to another game iirc
when i transefered my pawmot and ghold from one save to another it didnt
jovial storm
I donāt think it does. I usually have to reset them in game to play with the stats.
stone trellis
Yveltal is not in Scarlet and Violet.
stone trellis
No fucking idea.
jovial storm
Guess itās a moot point I suppose.
stone trellis
What do you want to use it for?
jovial storm
Wanted something fast test defensive if that makes sense.
Fast yet*. Was thinking Foul Play and Sucker Punch for some stab along with Oblivion Wing.
stone trellis
Why Foul Play?
waxen dock
Wanted something fast test defensive if that makes sense.
in what format?
jovial storm
It does more damage based on the attack of the opponent. And probably VGC.
stone trellis
VGC 2019 or 2016?
jovial storm
Hmmā¦.
stone trellis
And yeah, we know.
jovial storm
Iāll go with more recent.
chrome knot
tidd jeremy cote fan club
stone trellis
These were the VGC 2019 builds shown.
If you go with Sucker Punch, you'll probably want Jolly or even Hasty/Naive.
jovial storm
Hmm. Okay, I got. I like the diversity and Utility aspect of VCG; mons you would think do one thing and then they wind up surprising you.
Thanks for the spread.
stone trellis
There's also this one.
Sucker Punch seems to be there more for the option of doing some damage with priority, it'd probably use a special Dark move if it also had priority.
jovial storm
I like it.
real prairie
The acting for those skits is dog water š¤£
Really wish they staggered rounds to show more games
stone trellis
Misclicking Protect on Lando lost me the game.
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regj-2446333789-98gpfs8lgtgcicyf3u9qff6ajb652uopw
I'm not even mad, this was just me being a fucking idiot.
I had a perfect out, switch Lando into Iron Valiant and use Wide Guard.
foggy lodge
Chuppa wins this game
stone trellis
solid frigate
i really want to post my reg j replays but ummm
i want to make the team feel like a next step towards my VGC journey in champions
chrome knot
what
chrome knot
ok
deft meteor
(Is there any teachers who can help a new trainer who is new to the competition circuit of the VGC and who cannot understandably create a team?)
feral wraith
<@206560103850180611> <a:SCbite:664508129261781012>
no u
stone trellis
(Is there any teachers who can help a new trainer who is new to the competition ...
I can help.
deft meteor
Ready whenever you are to help me
real prairie
Where would you like to begin?
May i recommend the pinned messages for resources if you are looking for some reading material.
If not, ask away and we will help where we can
stone trellis
Didn't Wolfey use Scarf Ttar way back in the day?
I know we're done with the 90s, but still.
foggy lodge
Scarf Tytar was popular before yes
stone trellis
Jolly reaches 184 and Adamant reaches what, 168?
real prairie
which was fine in sun and moon series lol
vernal shadow
Do I hyper train speed here ? I've seen some tr strats with mega and I'm unsure if I should leave it be or train it. Couldn't find the IV or EVs for those strategies from the old vgc tourneys either which is understandable I guess
solid frigate
Do I hyper train speed here ? I've seen some tr strats with mega and I'm unsure ...
really depends on the team you are running but for normal Scarf Trick Gardevoir you have
Mega tho i don't know
vernal shadow
really depends on the team you are running but for normal Scarf Trick Gardevoir ...
From what I've gathered fast works with mega but the tr one intrigued me a lot. It's an interesting option. In theory TR could be a good utility anyways when matched with faster teams right ? I've not messed with having mode changes on teams at all before
It also I think had better results but I could be wrong
This one isn't particularly slow either. Not sure exact Ivs but this looks like average so like 11-14 maybe ?
vernal shadow
Just calculating now. 1 sec
I guessed right on speed. It's 11
Attack is 3 so that's pretty damn good
This one's my "ribbon master"
Started collecting the other day. 25 ribbons and 3 marks. Only the masterball ranked one left and the partner mark.
The new reg is gonna be insane to get gardevoir a masterball win
foggy lodge
Chuppa Cross regional champion
dense latch
idk why matt just let his prim die
stone trellis
This one's my "ribbon master"
Started collecting the other day. 25 ribbons and ...
I'll help you.
It gets Telepathy, correct?
Anything with Telepathy can become an Ursaluna partner.
vernal shadow
It gets Telepathy, correct?
It does as it's hidden ability. I did as I've mentioned before have a reg G team with support from whimsi and indeedee F but idk from here
vernal shadow
Anything with Telepathy can become an Ursaluna partner.
True
stone trellis
So, now for the moves and all that stuff.
vernal shadow
I quite like terra fire on it. Really helpful defensively and allows mystical fire to hit steel types with stab
It also hits fairly hard with expanding force on psychic terrain. Which if I'm not mixing it up, stops priority moves too
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.4
stone trellis
So Expanding Force, Mystical Fire, Protect and what else?
CM? Trick Room? Gleam?
dense latch
i'd do moonblast
vernal shadow
Expanding force pretty much fills the same job as gleam so I'd say moonblast sounds a good idea
Expanding force is aoe on psychic terrain
stone trellis
Yeah, I know.
vernal shadow
Worst thing that's happened to me is tracing levitate and then trying expanding force š
vernal shadow
Id also need speed control. Sash whimsi still good or not worth running ?
vernal shadow
I...don't own lunala sadly
stone trellis
I own one.
vernal shadow
Been shiny hunting it in dynamax adventures for ages. I'll try trade a spare legendary for one
stone trellis
It's got 1 Attack IV.
vernal shadow
On gets
vernal shadow
It's got 1 Attack IV.
That's crazy low
stone trellis
I hunted for it.
stone trellis
If you don't want that, I'll give you the 13 Attack IV one I have from my first save.
vernal shadow
But diff between 1 and say 10 ?
Oh. You're offering me stuff ? I couldn't take that from you
foggy lodge
For a foul play format its kinda important
You can still get away with running something between 0-15 I think
Shouldn't change the things too much
stone trellis
Oh. You're offering me stuff ? I couldn't take that from you
You'll take it.
vernal shadow
I've heard lunala has been struggling in sv. If that's the case, what issues has it got ? Ik it's typing but what's it's biggest check then I guess ?
vernal shadow
You'll take it.
š
stone trellis
Darkshifu if Tera is off the table.
vernal shadow
Not a lot does. That shit sucks
stone trellis
It defo does.
vernal shadow
Is the lunala a spare ?
For terrain setting I kinda wanna stick with indeedee but with the scarier things in this rule set, I feel it'd probably be destroyed and not contribute much
stone trellis
252+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Electro Drift vs. +1 132 HP / 20 SpD Lunala in Electric Terrain: 154-183 (67.2 - 79.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
stone trellis
Is the lunala a spare ?
It is.
vernal shadow
252+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Electro Drift vs. +1 132 HP / 20 Sp...
Damn
stone trellis
For terrain setting I kinda wanna stick with indeedee but with the scarier thing...
It can put in work, trust me.
Priority blocking, redirection and Trick Room setting can be oretty damn important.
On top of the Ghost immunity.
dusty jungle
Hey I need some team help if anyone's available for a sec
stone trellis
DMs.
vernal shadow
It can put in work, trust me.
Mine has currently
follow me
Protect
Helping hand
A damage move that I've not set on yet
I believe 252 hp, 252 def 4def and psychic seed
stone trellis
Give it Safety Goggles and Psychic.
vernal shadow
Left over for when I was gonna try reg G
vernal shadow
Give it Safety Goggles and Psychic.
To protect from amoogus right?
vernal shadow
So far then
Lunala, gardevoir, ursaluna (regular) whimsi, indeedee.last restricted
dense latch
idt psy seed lunala is that good, the spdef boost isn't as valuable on it
vernal shadow
Power herb ?
dense latch
yea i'd do that
stone trellis
Koraidon works well.
It doesn't conflict with Indeedee's terrain stuff, unlike Miraidon.
stone trellis
Nice.
stone trellis
Who won?
dense latch
chuppa cross
atomic mural
chuppa
dense latch
https://pokepast.es/08ac52966ab885ec this made finals somehow
atomic mural
https://pokepast.es/08ac52966ab885ec this made finals somehow
nah it was heat
bold geode
God only one Protect ew
stone trellis
"Stop acting like you know who's got Protect."
"There are no Protects man, we're lost."
dense latch
i love super fang
dense latch
90% is a lie
stone trellis
DOUBLE HEAT WAVE MISS NONONONONONONONONONONONONO
Third unluckiest moment of my life, right before the double High Horsepower miss and Snarl into CSR incident #1.
dense latch
i had my opponent double connect + double burn with matcha gotcha into my volc double missing heat wave not too long ago
short quiver
Third unluckiest moment of my life, right before the double High Horsepower miss...
missing snarl into csr sounds soul crushing
stone trellis
I've missed it only four times.
All four into CSR.
The first one was especially bad because had it hit, CSR would've died via Lorb recoil next turn.
short quiver
ive never missed snarl as far as im aware
and im pretty sure id remember if i did miss that
foggy lodge
Y'all remember when people thought Gengar was good in reg H
stone trellis
I wasn't into VGC back then.
short quiver
Y'all remember when people thought Gengar was good in reg H
musta been before my time too
foggy lodge
It was the past year
real prairie
i love super fang
Appropriately named mice
molten oasis
Y'all remember when people thought Gengar was good in reg H
That was an era lmao
foggy lodge
And I ate the Gengar bait
dense latch
Appropriately named mice
one too many super fang misses
but it's too good of a move to pass up on
foggy lodge
Erik don't play reg H is horrible
I saw Matt get frozen two times in one match by blizzard on his Volcarona and Gambit and remembered why I stopped playing
dense latch
Erik don't play reg H is horrible
shohei's team is making me have a bit more fun
foggy lodge
I saw someone on pokealex's chat say "well shouldn't he have A9 checks then" like what are Volcarona and Gambit LMAO
dense latch
i'll go to this weekend's challenge and see how it feels there
foggy lodge
Gl brother
dense latch
I saw someone on pokealex's chat say "well shouldn't he have A9 checks then" lik...
cloak gambit š„
i was watching mdb's stream throughout the whole regional
foggy lodge
I have to watch the vod
Michael's regional streams are so funny
Reg H + regional + MDB
My favourite combination
dense latch
matt had mdb crashing out in all of his stream games
then someone offered 100 subs if matt won so he switched up lmao
dense latch
Gl brother
might be cooked
teamlist deadline was yesterday
i didnt think they'd make you lock teamlists a week prior to the event
foggy lodge
why tf is the teamlist deadline one week before the actual tournament
At my only local I saw people locking the team at the same store
dense latch
no idea
next stump
team list submission for a local?!
every local Iāve been to in the states you just walk in with a printed team list or fill one out there
thatās crazy to have pre reg
dense latch
idk if it's necessary to sign up through playlatam but the deadline in that website was the 20th
maybe i'll just go and hope they let me play lmao
foggy lodge
maybe i'll just go and hope they let me play lmao
Is it too far
I remember my first local was a disaster because I had no idea how to do all the stuff
dense latch
nah
molten oasis
https://pokepast.es/44566f571986c8a7 how this look
dense latch
20 minute drive
foggy lodge
I could solve everything but the start was a disaster
dense latch
did you register through playlatam? i'm still not so sure about all the stuff i have to do either
stone trellis
How would you people draw a Modest Miraidon and Landorus?
I'm trying to cook something and I need help.
Every other nature on my team is pretty easy to express.
real prairie
can we talk about how quickly those switch 2 games go š¤£
just caught up on the final, had to check i wasn't watching it on increased speed
foggy lodge
did you register through playlatam? i'm still not so sure about all the stuff i ...
No it was just through the page of the store itself
forest arrow
I just faced someone in ladder with CS Ttar
Wild
visual flume
This is my first attempt at making a vgc ready pokemon I know some things but should i give Iron hands perfect IVās or should I leave speed imperfect?
real prairie
I'm finally up to 5
real prairie
This is my first attempt at making a vgc ready pokemon I know some things but sh...
Depends on your use of it, if it's going to be strictly your trickroom mon then going 0 speed might be an idea, otherwise having decent speed could be useful.
Work out what you want to outspeed in and outside of TR
This might help
visual flume
Thank you my brotha
real prairie
No bother
visual flume
I just spent the last like 5 hours shiny hunting iron hands and I finally got it
cyan smelt
<@&663761167176433665>
strange juniper
ty
dull haven
Proton beat me to it lol
cobalt tapir
no it was me
real prairie
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reghbo3-2446536340-x6e7i4uai5rxf6aqqdvrteu5w5m2fd8pw
Ludicolo goated disruptor lol
real prairie
Is winning a regional usually enough ChP to qualify for a travel award?
next stump
Is winning a regional usually enough ChP to qualify for a travel award?
Just that alone wonāt do it, but any amount of locals or other regionals will probably get you there
Assuming you mean travel award for the internationals
dense latch
Is winning a regional usually enough ChP to qualify for a travel award?
winning a regional gives 350cp iirc so you'd need a lot more
real prairie
Travel award for worlds
real prairie
Assuming you mean travel award for the internationals
Didn't know there was ones for internationals too
next stump
Travel award for worlds requires you to be top 8/16 in your region
usually like 1500+ CP total
real prairie
Winning a regional should get you a travel award imo.
"Congrats on winning, you are now invited to worlds, good luck getting there" š¤£
real prairie
but you do get $6000
Before the tax man comes š¤£
real prairie
usually like 1500+ CP total
Ooof
I'm in a genuine position where if I were able to win a regional, I may not be able to afford to get to worlds š¤£
Cross that bridge when I get to it ey
next stump
yeah US having worlds 3 years in a row is expensive š¦
cyan smelt
That's gotta be to encore dark types
dense latch
Y'all check the Whimsicott ability lmao
it took me a day to realize this lol
shadow wind
Itās not even that bad considering that Whims is grossly fast
It hits 184 doesnāt it?
cyan smelt
Faster than jumpluff in sun
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.4
shadow wind
Iām washed š
Oh yeah wait that makes sense Iām just dumb
I knew the 184 but couldnāt think 178 + 6
shadow wind
I hate how I know the numbers that the stats hit better than the actual stats
I immediately knew Talonflame hit 194 speed
Which means yeah itās 126
Wait it hits 195
Iām proving myself wrong at every turn
visual flume
How do i know i used all 512 of my ev points in pkmn sv
visual flume
Can i dm you a pic of my ev chart?
shadow wind
Just send it here
visual flume
Cant send photos
dense latch
what are the stats and level of your pokemon
and what mon is it
you can plug the values into a damage calculator to figure out what your evs are so long as you know what IVs your mon has
shadow wind
That doesnāt really let you know if youāve used ALL 512 cause the numbers donāt add up nice
dense latch
the stats your pokemon has not the base stats
visual flume
Thats what i meant hold up
Adamant nature
HP: 270
Atk:233
Sp.A: 73
Def: 151
Sp.f: 140
Spe: 94
Sorry if i formatted that weird
dense latch
this is probably your ev spread then
like conner said yea it's a bit weird with the numbers so im not 100% sure
shadow wind
It also could have 2 extra evs anywhere just so you know
Thatās why if they were worried about the effort ribbon the only thing that really matters is the colour of the chart
visual flume
Dang I might have messed up than
dense latch
you can also test it with vitamins and stuff
if it doesn't let you use any more of those then you should be maxed
visual flume
The attack is slightly too high and the speed is slightly too low
Yeah I miscounted while ev training theyāre both off by 8
How many bo does the kelpsy berry take away?
Bp*
dense latch
10
shadow wind
Evs is what youāre taking away
visual flume
Thats what i mean to say mb
dense latch
you can use 1 kelpsy berry then use 2 feathers take away 8 evs
then just use one carbos
shadow wind
I love specific EV training
shadow wind
For sure
Also Erik is there any point in me trying to re-invent the wheel for Reg H at this point?
Or do I just move on from Gen 9
dense latch
if there's any format to have some fun by trying ideas it's this one
visual flume
this is probably your ev spread then
What website is this btw
shadow wind
Looks like the showdown damage calc
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.4
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.4
foggy lodge
Huh
shadow wind
What
foggy lodge
I saw a tera dragon Tatsugiri
shadow wind
One strong Draco I guess
visual flume
https://nerd-of-now.github.io/NCP-VGC-Damage-Calculator/
Good looks
shadow wind
Or even 3 strong Dracos
foggy lodge
Holy shit draco hits hard
shadow wind
Yeah
Thatās what it does best
Remember when Miraidon was using it?
Thing would kill on resisted hits
Oh man I canāt even participate in the GC this time around
visual flume
When is it
cyan smelt
I need to somehow come up with a horrible team
knotty briar
What item and evs should I go for
It's the classic Indeedee Armarouge combo
shadow wind
Are you not running trick room?
cyan smelt
Weak armour armarouge usually goes weakness policy and annihilape activates it by U turning into indeedee
knotty briar
Really good to know
cyan smelt
And add torkoal for boosted heat waves
knotty briar
Should I add hisuian lilligant for after you eruption shenanigans?
cyan smelt
I wouldn't, lilligant is slower than unburden sneasler
shadow wind
Iām thinking of making Kommo work again
I feel like he honestly has some potential
knotty briar
I remember using throat spray Kommo-o back in reg F (that was teal mask I think)
It was surprisingly fun to use
shadow wind
Itās like Dozo but no one complains about it
But it needs a real strong team next to it
bold geode
https://x.com/vgcvictoryroad/status/1969914540516397082?s=46&t=iKljDNcQZPN0DbRs8wkXyQ
Here is this btw chat
X
knotty briar
Back before I started using hard TR, I had Kommo-o as a backup attacker for after trick room ran out
shadow wind
The problem with that is he needs set up
knotty briar
Nothing rage powder amoongus or follow me indeedee can't fix
halcyon basalt
Whos a good partner for iron valiant?
shadow wind
Nothing rage powder amoongus or follow me indeedee can't fix
Maus usually run goggles
magic sierra
Whos a good partner for iron valiant?
Miraidon? Sets up electric terrain for it and counts as a fairy type swap in for miraidon if a dragon move is aimed at miraidon
halcyon basalt
Really? I was thinking Scizor
magic sierra
Really? I was thinking Scizor
that's for the steel moves XD
knotty briar
Maus usually run goggles
Maus actually threatens Kommo-o?
Wait... technician population bomb
Yeah I can see it
magic sierra
Then again, Valiant is part fighting type with a massive STAB move in that case, so it's not a swap anyways
magic sierra
Wait... technician population bomb
This is the reason I always ensure I have at least one ghost type to swap into.
knotty briar
Ah I see now
I never really dealt with that
Mainly cuz Kommo-o was a backup attacker for after trick room ended
At least it was for me
Damn I kinda wanna use Kommo-o again
No Flutter Mane means it can really run wild
Wait primarina is still a problem
shadow wind
Prima and Dnite are the big problems
knotty briar
Dammit this is like the 3rd team I've scrapped because it just doesn't quite fit
shadow wind
But Iāll team build around it, probably
knotty briar
The rain team I tried building was no good, the Armarouge team was useless if Armarouge went down, and my trick room team gets bent over by imprison and Sneasler
I'm going crazy with this
And I adamantly refuse to use tatsu dozo
What if I tried shell smash water spout blastoise with follow me support
shadow wind
Still slower than Sneasler
waxen dock
https://x.com/vgcvictoryroad/status/1969914540516397082?s=46&t=iKljDNcQZPN0DbRs8...
yesss
knotty briar
Yeah, I'm grasping at nonexistent straws with the team building at this point...
I miss reg G
Team building was so much smoother
shadow wind
I also miss Reg G
Even Reg I Iād go back to
I peak in restricted formats though
So I need to learn non restricted formats
knotty briar
Yeah I used Dawn Wings Necrozma alongside CIR in reg I
Using double trick room the moment it was about to run out was fun
shadow wind
I ran Groudon + whatever restricted was cool to me at the time
knotty briar
As a CIR user, I welcomed any Groudon opponents with open arms lol
knotty briar
I personally ran meteor beam on Necrozma in case of fire teras and the easy special attack boost
I remember the first day of reg I was my best performance I ever had on ranked
shadow wind
I mean usually CIR ran Tera grass on those builds
knotty briar
Ah, I run tera water
Sucked when miraidon is out without trick room, but pretty good otherwise
shadow wind
Any FWG is usually good for CIR
knotty briar
True, true
If I recall correctly I used tera fairy on Necrozma to get a fairy terablast for Koraidon and Urshifu
shadow wind
Tera fairy Tera blast in a meta game with Flutter mane is kinda crazy
knotty briar
If Necrozma learned moonblast, I probably would have used that instead
Unfortunately it doesn't even get dazzling gleam
shadow wind
Kinda weird considering Lunala learns both of those
knotty briar
So terablast was literally my best option for fairy coverage on Necrozma
I went Necrozma cuz it's slower than Lunala and I had a min speed 1 attack one
It was a little tricky to use, but it was extremely fun once I got used to it
shadow wind
Iād rather go back to that man
I hate MausApe and Sneasler Dnite
Power creep got too real
Something needs to happen to that monkey though
A 300 BP stab move is not cool
When does Reg H even end?
oak finch
When does Reg H even end?
end of November
oak finch
annoying the in game ladder is offset to it now, im trying to practice for I but we've moved onto J and ive never played a mythical format (even though most of them suck competitively)
shadow wind
I wouldāve played Reg J if Victini was in the game
shadow wind
I wouldāve rocked Groudon Victini
Sun boosted V create wouldāve blown a hole in some people
And more accurate Pblades
austere iron
I wouldāve played Reg J if Victini was in the game
real af
oak finch
Wait for Champions
oak finch
Unova-only restricted regulation in champions
shadow wind
People still wouldnāt use em š
oak finch
aw man i was looking forward to Reshiram Keldeo
shadow wind
One EQ and both dragons are gonezo
solid frigate
Keldeo is just Worse Urshifu
oak finch
real
shadow wind
Itās a sad fate
oak finch
Keldeo is just Worse Urshifu
simply before its time
solid frigate
Probably gonna release my Reg J Team after GC (no Mythicals tho)
oak finch
oh shit whens next gc
solid frigate
October 3rd to 5th
oak finch
wow i need to prepare oops
my first season playing them didnt realise they were this often
oh and its Reg H?
solid frigate
Reg H
foggy lodge
So fun fact
oak finch
im cooked ive built zero non restricted teams
foggy lodge
Today on the TCG finals from Pittsburgh
Game 1 of finals was decided because one of the guys was missing a card
solid frigate
F
foggy lodge
And the missing card was because he slammed the headphones into the table and a card went flying to the other side of the table
And the opponent picked it up by accident
And no one noticed until game 1 of finals
solid frigate
I donāt know why I laughed at this fact
foggy lodge
Its some unbeliveable shit to happen bro
oak finch
wow all 17 people watching the TCG stream got to see that live š
foggy lodge
And on stream
oak finch
pretty funny lol
foggy lodge
And it was all on stream
oak finch
i was watching the vgc top cut and someone threw his controller in joy when he won a round and then got double swept
foggy lodge
We saw tragedy happen and no one could do anything LMAO
oak finch
do you have a timestamp?
foggy lodge
Idk if they can even be penalized
oak finch
you can see the crowd's reaction after too lol
foggy lodge
Like its just some crazy specific shit to happen
oak finch
wish we had live chat replay lol
foggy lodge
But idk if I played TCG I would be counting all my cards after every game
So who knows
oak finch
this is why i play VGC all i can throw is my joycon
foggy lodge
The venue is gonna see my controller fly if I get frozen by A9 on turn 1 on my ice resistance mon again
oak finch
i mean he probably went to relax before the final and then had to play 20 mins of focused tcg play
foggy lodge
Like on VGC I think judges are 90% of the time called due to a disconnect
oak finch
imagine the number of times you'd think "i just need this card soon" and the whole time it was never in the deck
foggy lodge
Or idk
Because I saw a comment that said that the opponent in top 4 gave the card back
So maybe they lost another card before that match???
Or am I just being baited by a youtube comment
Lmao
oak finch
worlds 2026 ft tcg pocket
foggy lodge
Which game is more ragebaiting tcg live or pocket
oak finch
i only played pocket for the early launch which was in my country and it was all mewtwo sweeping teams so probably pocket
same team everytime just destroying me
and i played comp tcg for like 5 years š
oak finch
so in GC, everyone in the world is vs each other, but this season ill get points only ranked against my OCE peers?
waxen dock
so in GC, everyone in the world is vs each other, but this season ill get points...
you are competing against australian plyers
its like a ladder tour
oak finch
okay, so my matches are all gonna be just other OCE registered players?
i know its 15 battles whenever per day and stuff
waxen dock
okay, so my matches are all gonna be just other OCE registered players?
no
its like a ladder tour
in laDDER TOURS YOU PLAY IN LADDER
solid frigate
Reg H be like
oak finch
just got the same team twice in a row on cart ladder, interesting >
Chi-Yu
Staraptor
Stonedge
Espeon
Miradon
Koraidon
whats the vision here
solid frigate
just got the same team twice in a row on cart ladder, interesting >
Chi-Yu
Stara...
Low elo
solid frigate
Still like lower elo cuz master ball is the ones that actually have decent teams
oak finch
soon
real prairie
@solid frigate https://x.com/PokemonNewsUK/status/1970037435439501435
X
solid frigate
<@758873265053106217> https://x.com/PokemonNewsUK/status/1970037435439501435
Yep I am not going there I am broke (unless I got a job or something)
I havenāt even tell my parents about going both events
real prairie
It's there for a while so some time to save š
solid frigate
It's there for a while so some time to save š
Yeah I only just ask my parents just for the entrance Fee and I have to get a job to cover the rest of my expenses there
short quiver
is it the 28th yet so i can get my shiny dragons from gamestop
waxen dock
is it the 28th yet so i can get my shiny dragons from gamestop
you can look at the date yk
short quiver
you can look at the date yk
the internet could also be lying to me about todays date
the internet lies, yk?
stone trellis
It is the 22nd.
stone trellis
I'd have to offer 40 shinies to even have a chance at getting one.
stone trellis
why cant EU get them?
No GameStop stores here.
short quiver
canada doesnt have gamestop either
they have something else instead idk what its called im not canadian
cyan smelt
Dw Paul I'm gonna hoard them, if you want codes I can help you out
short quiver
can i go to more than one gamestop or do they like mark your acc or smthn
cyan smelt
Yes I will, I'm planning to go to multiple eb Games on multiple days to get codes
short quiver
if i can do that too i absolutely will
stone trellis
Nice.
real prairie
why cant EU get them?
France store has already been confirmed
UK should be announced soon too
stone trellis
Well, guess I'll have to go to France for a fucking Pokemon with a different color.
And so will every other person who lives outside of those countries.
short quiver
Well, guess I'll have to go to France for a fucking Pokemon with a different col...
im still not convinced france exists
you cant prove it
stone trellis
Take your meds.
short quiver
Take your meds.
solid frigate
short quiver
go go power rangers
solid frigate
Wrong series bruh
chrome knot
canada doesnt have gamestop either
yes we do
eb games is long gone lol its also called gamestop here
chrome knot
short quiver
im gonna start posting content on yt and twitch
i will not be famous chat
but im gonna try
real prairie
Well, guess I'll have to go to France for a fucking Pokemon with a different col...
You UK too?
real prairie
What have you done to my boy?!
stone trellis
You UK too?
No, I'm Greek.
real prairie
No, I'm Greek.
Ah, you'll probably still get it before me then lol
we don't have any gaming shop franchises left in the country
stone trellis
Nor do we.
waxen dock
Nor do we.
maybe your pokemon community will be able to do something about it
stone trellis
Is that a joke?
waxen dock
i mean about the koraidon and miraidon
stone trellis
The closest thing we have are TCG players, who couldn't care less about the game stuff.
waxen dock
The closest thing we have are TCG players, who couldn't care less about the game...
still
maybe you still have a vgc community in your country that you haven't found yet
stone trellis
If there is one, it's not in some bumfuck rural city in the middle of nowhere with 13k residents.
real prairie
maybe you still have a vgc community in your country that you haven't found yet
yeah Paul, go find the other singular Greek person in your area that plays VGC and ask them where you can get shiny Koraidon š¤£
stone trellis
So I'd have to leave my hometown just to find other idiots who rage too much over MiraiNala winning another event.
real prairie
@shadow wind
sinful lodge
wth
sinful lodge
ok
real prairie
waxen dock
tbh
i think the tpci made it worse for all people without the cp bar
and also the gc nerf
rustic mountain
making worlds more exclusive isnt problematic, it is the most coveted event of the season, making it more difficult and having higher standards to reach that level is fine. also online bo1 is a cool outlet to earn points but the amount people were winning in last seasons gc was too much in a lot of peoples eyes relative to the usual circuit (irl bo3) so makes sense to try and adjust it
rustic mountain
huh
real prairie
Omfg if this is true šššā„ļøā„ļøā„ļø (spoiler warning)
stone trellis
Every single game I have with this team can be sorted into two categories: I either gain so much momentum that I completely blow through my team's defenses before they get the chance to do anything or Snarl misses on CSR and it crits both my Pokemon.
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regj-2446974122
solid frigate
Omfg if this is true šššā„ļøā„ļøā„ļø (spoiler warning)
i
am
gonna
go Berserk
If that is real
real prairie
š
stone trellis
That you?
real prairie
it is
stone trellis
I was going to flame you, but then I realised it's Reg H.
real prairie
flame me for why? lol
stone trellis
How do you have a 53.7% GXE when you've got 15 wins and 6 losses?
stone trellis
flame me for why? lol
53.7%, man.
solid frigate
Omfg if this is true šššā„ļøā„ļøā„ļø (spoiler warning)
i am more worried over that one legendary who should not get the mega evo
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.4
stone trellis
+2 252+ SpA Fairy Aura Xerneas Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 196 SpD Tera Fire Calyrex-Ice: 81-96 (39.1 - 46.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Yeah, this dude's fucked.
solid frigate
assuming we are getting some sort of defense state increase
stone trellis
Shit, Coaching Valiant might be my GOAT here.
Wide Guard for Gleam, Coaching to rip Xern in half.
And without a free item slot, that thing is NOT getting to +2 before it dies.
Welp, at least it's good at walling Miraidon.
solid frigate
honestly that makes regular xerneas better by default but this is Gen 8-9 Gamefreak so i would not make it count that it would not have some balanced ability for that
stone trellis
They're gonna give it Simple...
solid frigate
thematically doesn't even make sense but ok
stone trellis
I do not care, it's the funniest choice.
real prairie
I do not care, it's the funniest choice.
unburden
stone trellis
Oh my God, you're right.
Wait, I just realised that lacking Fairy Aura makes it absolutely shit.
real prairie
True
stone trellis
It probably doesn't even do 60% to no-Tera Icy.
Nevermind, it's +2 Modest MB I'm calcing.
+2 252+ SpA Fairy Aura Xerneas Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 196 SpD Calyrex-Ice: 163-193 (78.7 - 93.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
I literally removed Fairy Aura...
+2 252+ SpA Xerneas Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 196 SpD Calyrex-Ice: 124-147 (59.9 - 71%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
There we go.
solid frigate
116+ Atk Calyrex-Ice Glacial Lance vs. 156 HP / 76 Def Xerneas: 88-105 (39.8 - 47.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
At least i don't have to worry with my spread during the time i was playing VGC 2016
i add so many physical bulk cuz Pdon and Mega Ray
stone trellis
Lorb Landorus cooks it as well.
And if it does end up being a Fairy-Dragon type, Specs Mirai DGleam will be even worse.
Not to even mention Zacian.
Would Zacian + Primal Kyogre be better than Zacian + Pdon?
Because Incineroar is NOT rocking with Pdon.
molten oasis
Would Zacian + Primal Kyogre be better than Zacian + Pdon?
Yes
Zacian kyogre is the best duo for zacian
shadow wind
Zacian Groudon was only super popular because of the goat Zard
Zard was just that broken that it warranted Groudon over Kyogre usage
As well as Dynamax being better for Groudon cause there is no storm drain for ground type moves
hallow quartz
are there really no good teams with reshiram?
dense latch
gen 5 legends just suck compared to the rest of the restricteds
hallow quartz
what restricteds r good rn then that I can actually get within the scarlet violet dlc
molten oasis
what restricteds r good rn then that I can actually get within the scarlet viole...
The gen 8 legendaries, koraidon miraidon and pagos, and groudon and kyogre
both calys and both dogs (mostly zama) are good
short quiver
gen 5 legends just suck compared to the rest of the restricteds
i made white kyurem work š
its only thing is it wants snow very badly
hallow quartz
whats the team
hallow quartz
The gen 8 legendaries, koraidon miraidon and pagos, and groudon and kyogre
any teams w kyogre and terapagos then?
molten oasis
No
Is there one restricted in specific youād like to use?
You can also check out #rental_teams
short quiver
whats the team
all i remember is lyurem-w miraidon torn ninetales
i genuinely forgot the last two mons
yes my team was very SpA heavy its why i stopped using it
halcyon basalt
Any tips for getting a 0 attack iv tatsugiri?
halcyon basalt
like what level tatsugiri am i looking for?
short quiver
what level are the tatsus youre finding
halcyon basalt
Haven't started looking, i was just about to.
also how can i be sure the iv is 0?
waxen dock
Any tips for getting a 0 attack iv tatsugiri?
wdym?
cobalt tapir
also how can i be sure the iv is 0?
it'll say no good when you check its ivs
halcyon basalt
wdym?
im trying to get a 0-atk iv tatsugiri because i told it was best paired with dondozo
waxen dock
1iv is also good
waxen dock
im trying to get a 0-atk iv tatsugiri because i told it was best paired with don...
it doesnt really matter
unless you want to get the best optimized mons
halcyon basalt
oh, im not sure why i even need it to be low, but i just follow what im told
waxen dock
the thing that does matter are speed iv on mons like amoonguss
halcyon basalt
oh, people were telling me that my tatsugiri should have a low attack iv
waxen dock
oh, people were telling me that my tatsugiri should have a low attack iv
it should
but it doesnt really matter that much
halcyon basalt
oh, whats the reason it needs to be low?
waxen dock
oh, whats the reason it needs to be low?
so it gets less damage from foul play and confusion
but almost no one use foul play
in reg h
and also confusion is a little rare
halcyon basalt
what tatsugiri do you reccomend i run with dondozo?
waxen dock
and the damage diffrence is only like a few hp
waxen dock
what tatsugiri do you reccomend i run with dondozo?
the orange one
halcyon basalt
okay, thanks
halcyon basalt
is there a way to make alolan exeggutor viable?
halcyon basalt
i was thinking
Hypnosis
Leech Seed
Substitute
Rest
real prairie
Singles?
halcyon basalt
doubles
real prairie
that won't work in VGC im afriad
halcyon basalt
would something similar work? i wanna shut down other pokemon
real prairie
give me a minute to cook
halcyon basalt
okay okay
hallow quartz
Is there one restricted in specific youād like to use?
well i'd probably try to go for kyogre, terapagos, or calys (ice)
molten oasis
Ice rider kyogre is a real duo
hallow quartz
r there any teams for them? im looking thru rental rn
I'm looking for a team that can take me to masterball
dapper crag
Can we talk about our lord and savior, Gholdengo
real prairie
@halcyon basalt try the Marco Silva team with it:
halcyon basalt
ooooh i like this team
dense latch
https://pokepast.es/84c0b7c14de37a87 this won a regional
https://pokepast.es/f9972eab81f9e1fb tho i think this is probably easier to use
stone trellis
Why Never Melt Ice?
foggy lodge
With Kyogre Incin is easier to manage
stone trellis
Yeah, but Icy's still at -1.
foggy lodge
If your team has enough anti Incin tools nmi or icicle is a good option
stone trellis
Oh my God, I could've nicknamed Iron Valiant as Trunks.
foggy lodge
https://pokepast.es/84c0b7c14de37a87 this won a regional
Relaxed CIR is crazy dude lmao
Full wall CIR
Leech seed CIR was funny
Unironically probably the most funny set I used
stone trellis
Yeah, then people tried to force it at Worlds and it ended up losing out.
stone trellis
Full wall CIR
It's not going to do any damage besides Leech Seed, so why force it?
foggy lodge
I mean it still does damage
But you don't need that much investment
No leech seed cir went over 36 adamant attack investment
stone trellis
Yeah, it still does 5 HP to Incineroar after the fourth Intimidate.
And yeah, I know.
foggy lodge
Yes because Incin was on every single team right
Guys do you all remember when Incin had 100% usage at worlds day 2
stone trellis
Look, I have PTSD from trying to run Ice Rider without Clear Amulet.