Would that really be any useful
#competitive_discussion
polar canyon
short quiver
id use hypervoice mystical fire eforce
short quiver
Would that really be any useful
hypervoice would go crazy
polar canyon
Surely
Obviously not a special attacker so the mega bst boost is gonna go in good stats
Wondering about greninja
short quiver
Obviously not a special attacker so the mega bst boost is gonna go in good stats
imagine all into defense
polar canyon
Would be funny if greninja just keeps protean
short quiver
i hope delphox stats all go into SpA and Spe and gets a fire pixilate ability
polar canyon
Ignite
polar canyon
That would be a cool name for it
short quiver
oh are you naming the ability lmao
polar canyon
Matches the naming scheme
short quiver
ignite would be so cool fr
polar canyon
Aerilate galvanize pixilate ignite
short quiver
galvanize?
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.4
short quiver
i see
polar canyon
It has electric explosion
short quiver
what if mega raichu gets that ability
one keeps lightning rod the other gets galvanize
short quiver
electric fake out
polar canyon
It would go on mega x because what would a special attacker raichu do with galvanize
short quiver
electric endeavor?
polar canyon
Currently biggest use case is having lightning rod
short quiver
hyperbeam? 😭 uproar? 😭
polar canyon
I bet glaciate explosion mega glalie is gonna dominate lza competitive
short quiver
lza wont have abilities so they wont matter until champions
short quiver
galvanize mega raichu would go crazy istg
polar canyon
Galvanize quick attack and fake out
short quiver
and then obviously Y would keep lightning rod since SpA is kinda what it would boost anyways
short quiver
Galvanize quick attack and fake out
quick attack fake out nuzzle knock off? 🤔
polar canyon
Discharge miraidon next to raichu before it uses mega and loses lightning rod could be a legit strat
polar canyon
quick attack fake out nuzzle knock off? 🤔
No
That has like no damage
I think mega y is gonna be fast and fun to use as like a slower potent regieleki just spamming volt switch
Wish they hadn't nerfed transistor
foggy lodge
Galvanize Raichu to get uhhhhhhhhh electric type tera blast ig
dense latch
electric type fake out to do 12% instead of 8% 🔥🔥🔥
short quiver
Galvanize Raichu to get uhhhhhhhhh electric type tera blast ig
its only other special normal moves are echoed voice uproar and hyperbeam 😭
dense latch
hitting ghost types is pretty cool tho
short quiver
but then cant hit ground instead
polar canyon
Stab + 20% boost on what seems like a physical attacker would probably at least deal decent chip with fake out
40 bp is around half of the base power of a spread glacial lance
Just think about it that way
shadow wind
Not coming from a 165 base attack though
polar canyon
Unless
short quiver
mega raichu will have like 140 attack if i had to guess
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.4
polar canyon
It's also coming from a 20% boost from galvanize
I'm just saying its not gonna be meaningless damage
Of course you're not getting kills with galvanize fake out
short quiver
Of course you're not getting kills with galvanize fake out
imagine you could though
forest arrow
Being able to “FO” ghost types would be pretty crazy
short quiver
Being able to “FO” ghost types would be pretty crazy
but then you gotta remember you cant hit ground mons anymore
excadrill will dominate the meta 🥀
polar canyon
Small price to pay
short quiver
excadrill will dominate the meta 🥀
no it wont cuz they wont know if you megad that turn or not 😃
big brain strats
or if you even have mega raichu at all since OTS was only a SV thing right?
real prairie
How does one get promoted to helper? 👀 Setting myself a new life goal 🤣
short quiver
like you guys have the malamar thing i want one for raichu fr
next stump
How does one get promoted to helper? 👀 Setting myself a new life goal 🤣
TBH not 100% sure the full process, Tofu was the sole helper a couple years ago and asked if I wanted to join and helped get the process moving
We could probably use an extra hand or two, I'll ask around
real prairie
TBH not 100% sure the full process, Tofu was the sole helper a couple years ago ...
Yeah I was there haha tofu rocked shit fr
next stump
real prairie
Back when I was trying to get Hypno to work 😭
next stump
This is from an announcement in here a couple days ago
stone trellis
Discharge miraidon next to raichu before it uses mega and loses lightning rod co...
Ah yes, the "Landorus victim" strat.
real prairie
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdd3Wsymxt0hllGG_Ia-4zJsRuuZ0nY_JP1Xzd1...
Applied, cheers.
gentle cragBOT
Applied, cheers.
averagejack_yt has given 1 Gen Rep to mlbd
next stump
my opponent is just burnt out lol
short quiver
lmao
dense latch
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdd3Wsymxt0hllGG_Ia-4zJsRuuZ0nY_JP1Xzd1...
oh sick
might be worth a shot
dense latch
my opponent is just burnt out lol
real
reg h burns me out so much faster than other regs for whatever reason
real prairie
reg h burns me out so much faster than other regs for whatever reason
It's the cheer volume of diversity you practice for to then randomly lose to some basic shit like a 90% accurate move miss at the worst time
dense latch
It's the cheer volume of diversity you practice for to then randomly lose to som...
90% accurate moves will be the death of me someday
not a big issue for my opponents though
real prairie
90% accurate moves will be the death of me someday
How I felt missing a 99% accurate Triple axel at my very first regional
short quiver
since nintendo loves making money off us players so muxh why havent they given us mega flygon yet
real prairie
since nintendo loves making money off us players so muxh why havent they given u...
They don't want to risk getting it wrong
short quiver
How I felt missing a 99% accurate Triple axel at my very first regional
me missing a game losing play rough
stone trellis
I missed High Horsepower twice against Tera Fire Koraidon at 40%.
It still makes me want to die.
short quiver
I missed High Horsepower twice against Tera Fire Koraidon at 40%.
oh id tweak
shadow wind
not a big issue for my opponents though
Ah heck nah
stone trellis
I've also missed Metal Sound five times in a row, then gotten flinched and critted by Dark Pulse.
I still won the fucking Tera Raid and I will forever be proud.
That Mandibuzz didn't stand a chance.
short quiver
Metal sound can miss?
shadow wind
It’s like 85% accurate I thought
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.4
stone trellis
It is.
ornate forge
it is 85 i used it on klefki i think
stone trellis
That Mandibuzz's nickname is still 1 in 3,37m.
short quiver
you never realize how inaccurate 85% is until you play competitive i swear
stone trellis
Or until you miss the move five times.
ornate forge
screech is 85 too i think
stone trellis
It is.
shadow wind
Precipice blades !!
short quiver
thats crazy i have never once missed a screech
ornate forge
heat wave always misses
short quiver
ive also never missed origin pulse
ornate forge
power whip is 85
short quiver
power whip is 85
my ogerpon has missed power whip twice in a row. needless to say i lost the game
ornate forge
yeah it gets frustrating
short quiver
my ogerpon has missed power whip twice in a row. needless to say i lost the game
i actually think i forfeit that game
yeah i did
i forfeited after the second miss
stone trellis
By the way, that game where I missed High Horsepower twice?
We later had a rematch where I played the exact same moves and I won.
RNG is a bitch.
stone trellis
RNG is a bitch.
Except for when GOAT 4 the Garchomp thinks she's Yuji and lands 4 crits in a row.
Then I'm just him.
stone trellis
then lost 5 games in a row 🫠
It's happened to me, but with 1500 instead of 1200.
short quiver
🫠
my first lost was awful
it was a fully invested bulk CIR
I had no answer to it Iron Valiant was already dead
stone trellis
short quiver
and id tera’d my whimsicott turn 1 cuz they led grimmsnarl
stone trellis
and id tera’d my whimsicott turn 1 cuz they led grimmsnarl
You weren't under any threat.
short quiver
You weren't under any threat.
i fully expected to get taunted
stone trellis
You move before Grimmsnarl anyway.
short quiver
tailwind isnt all i need cotton ball for
short quiver
So, when's that match coming?
when i can comfortably use my team 🫠
stone trellis
So will you be ready by February?
stone trellis
Nothing, just assuming it'll take you 5 and a half months to get used to the team.
short quiver
my issue is im iffy with CIR
my koraidon is pretty good until my loaded dice gets knocked off
stone trellis
Do as you wish.
short quiver
i could just drop scale shot for like dragon claw or smthn
stone trellis
Ice Rider's the shit, but it rarely works when you force it to be fast.
stone trellis
i could just drop scale shot for like dragon claw or smthn
Or Breaking Swipe for the utility.
short quiver
Or Breaking Swipe for the utility.
yeah but do i want my korai to be a utility mon?
im more than willing to try it though
short quiver
neither will breaking swipe
and i will not use outrage as much as i want to
id rather not be locked into it
stone trellis
I wish there was a Fire or Fighting type pivot move.
Choice Band Korai would be so fucking funny.
short quiver
dragon claw dragon tail breaking swipe outrage scale shot
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.4
short quiver
thats actually
uh trash
-6 priority 🥀
so literally just dragon claw or outrage 😐
or breaking swipe and make it a bit less of an offensive dragon
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.4
short quiver
yo @stone trellis i might actually have been cooking
forest arrow
Do we have a few regionals this weekend? Or is that next weekend?
dense latch
Do we have a few regionals this weekend? Or is that next weekend?
frankfurt and monterrey tomorrow, pittsburgh next weekened
forest arrow
frankfurt and monterrey tomorrow, pittsburgh next weekened
Thank you ❤️
gentle cragBOT
Thank you ❤️
throwdatahh has given 1 Gen Rep to eriksp
lofty tartan
Gonna be watching both Frankfurt and Monterrey closely to make final decisions on Pitt team 👀
lofty tartan
I'm gonna choose to abstain there.
short quiver
id prefer you didnt 😔
i had ogerpon and iron valiant but they weren’t working out so i replaced ogerpon with rilla and valiant with gapdos
rillaboom just straight use tera fire right
dense latch
i had ogerpon and iron valiant but they weren’t working out so i replaced ogerpo...
both are downgrades imo
polar canyon
i had ogerpon and iron valiant but they weren’t working out so i replaced ogerpo...
I'm just looking at it and being reminded that magearna has around 13% usage last time I checked and if it gets a tr up its over
short quiver
rillaboom just straight use tera fire right
im asking cuz i was eyeing tera fairy
dense latch
rockpon for follow me + tr/lance is key
short quiver
I'm just looking at it and being reminded that magearna has around 13% usage las...
its kinda joever regardless
dense latch
on that note i don't think it's worth running taunt on cir at all
dense latch
well if i let tr go up i insta lose
that's an issue that taunt won't fix by itself
short quiver
🫠
polar canyon
Follow me + taunt insta wins
dense latch
4 ice weaks is an issue
short quiver
that's an issue that taunt won't fix by itself
do i swap it back to crunch?
i had crunch originally
dense latch
have your own trick room on ice rider, would probably swap out some of your team options for something slower and bulkier
polar canyon
Offensive tera gapdos
dense latch
that way you can take advantage of trick room and tailwind + exploit your opponent's tr
short quiver
Offensive tera gapdos
yes
dense latch
something like amoonguss or brute bonnet pick your poison
short quiver
disgusting
dense latch
over rillaboom
polar canyon
both options are gross
Used to think that before brute bonnet changed my life
short quiver
and trust me i need terrain control
polar canyon
Brute bonnet paid off all my loans took me to disneyworld and helped me meet the love of my life
short quiver
i like fast pokemon
polar canyon
I can tell by the way you play cir
short quiver
even rilla is out of my comfort zone i just desperately need terrain control
dense latch
if your team is solely made up of fast and frail mons of course you're gonna struggle against trick room
you need some balance especially if you're gonna be playing ice rider
short quiver
😒
short quiver
you need some balance especially if you're gonna be playing ice rider
in tailwind i outspeed modest mirai and adamant korai
😁
dense latch
honestly it's very hard to give you feedback when you ask for it when you disregard most options
polar canyon
I mean you brought up comfort zone and you know how improving is all about changing what you're comfortable doing being making whatever the context is
Adapting
short quiver
honestly it's very hard to give you feedback when you ask for it when you disreg...
you suggest like gross pokemon thats still weak to the type you specifically mentioned im weak to
polar canyon
Don't call my guy gross
polar canyon
It's not like you're using the best pokemon in the game in your team
lean ridge
if sash is taken up by csr on my team is life orb the best thing to put on chien pao?
short quiver
It's not like you're using the best pokemon in the game in your team
i didnt say i was
dense latch
you suggest like gross pokemon thats still weak to the type you specifically men...
you're keeping the same ice weaks if you swap it out for rilla + you outspeed and spore ice rider under tr + there's room to change the other ice weaks on your team
polar canyon
i didnt say i was
You are tho
short quiver
You are tho
im literally not
polar canyon
Calyrex
short quiver
what about it
lofty tartan
honestly it's very hard to give you feedback when you ask for it when you disreg...
Amen, brother
dense latch
if sash is taken up by csr on my team is life orb the best thing to put on chien...
av did great at worlds when sash was taken up by shadow rider
i assume it's a bit harder to get used to but it's probably worth a shot
lean ridge
av did great at worlds when sash was taken up by shadow rider
i assume it's a bi...
ill look into it ty
gentle cragBOT
ill look into it ty
tunisian has given 1 Gen Rep to eriksp
dense latch
np :)
short quiver
you're keeping the same ice weaks if you swap it out for rilla + you outspeed an...
even if i trade rilla for bonnet where do i get terrain from
i had grassy terrain on whim for a bit and trust me it saved my ass quite a few times
polar canyon
Misty terrain whims is actually a cool tech against miraidon
Removes electric and weakens dragon moves
short quiver
Misty terrain whims is actually a cool tech against miraidon
ah yes cuz dragon claw isnt weak enough already 😭
dense latch
you don't necessarily need brute/amoong or rilla
polar canyon
You don't have to run a dragon move
dense latch
just add some sort of defensive backbone to your team
otherwise you just get steamrolled out of position
short quiver
You don't have to run a dragon move
what would i run instead
dense latch
flame charge
polar canyon
what would i run instead
Lots of options but I like flame charge
short quiver
just add some sort of defensive backbone to your team
such as 🫠
dense latch
i'm on it
dense latch
flame charge
picks up chipped mons + speed boost so you don't rely on tw to outspeed shadow rider or scarfed mons
incin, bolt are a few ideas
polar canyon
Flame charge can be gameplan ruining for your opponents if you time it right
dense latch
bolt has great typing so you can switch into it safely in various scnearios
perhaps you'd just be better off with another restricted that isn't ice rider
polar canyon
The only pokemon right now I'd actually just refuse to play simply because I dislike it that much is smeargle
dense latch
korai ice rider can work but it's a different type of team and harder to pilot
polar canyon
He's doing that
short quiver
id use raging bolt if only i had one
dense latch
https://pokepast.es/05929b4e14c367c3 referring to these korai cir teams that did good at worlds, way slower paced
short quiver
😒
dense latch
yea
dense latch
koraidon has better restricted partners
polar canyon
Understandable reaction to smeargle
short quiver
koraidon has better restricted partners
originally i wanted to dual bikes 🙂
dense latch
hopefully you don't hate shadow rider or lunala both are great options for koraidon
polar canyon
I like csr korai
short quiver
hopefully you don't hate shadow rider or lunala both are great options for korai...
lunala is peak pokemon design
dense latch
csr probably fits the team archetype you're aiming for better
but you could adjust the team a bit to play with lunala
short quiver
csr probably fits the team archetype you're aiming for better
of just straight up fast HO
polar canyon
Calyrex is not fun to look at but you warm up to it after using it for a while
short quiver
if only base spectrier was good the carrot muncher on its back ruins its design
short quiver
it deserves them look at the cool ass horse
meanwhile calyrex is just a rabbit. excuse me, its a hare, apparently 😒
same family though
polar canyon
I think both horses look cool and calyrex has an interesting design but when they're together as one its too much and you don't really know if you should focus on the rider or the horse
short quiver
possibly
polar canyon
Pretty visually distinct and contrasting
At least glastrier and calyrex are both white
short quiver
so trade icy for shadow horse?
polar canyon
Don't take this the wrong way
polar canyon
so trade icy for shadow horse?
Yeah sure
dense latch
you can have a look at some worlds teams for inspo
polar canyon
I like playing with nasty plot and redirection
short quiver
you can have a look at some worlds teams for inspo
all im gonna see there is incinicringe and smearcringe
polar canyon
Incineroar is cool
short quiver
*cringe
polar canyon
Look at how sick and awesome he looks
Smash bros made me like incineroar
That guy is badass
And has cartoonish enough proportions that it doesn't look like a furry
dense latch
all im gonna see there is incinicringe and smearcringe
you can go like super hyper offense with like indeedee shadow rider chi yu flutter
short quiver
thats so basic though 😭
polar canyon
It's ok to be basic sometimes
polar canyon
I'm doing that but instead of indeedee its electabuzz because I like that guy
short quiver
“you have no honor!”
“and you are a slave to it”
dense latch
gives you the terrain control you wanted
polar canyon
Personal skill still shows through the way you play the game and not just the team
dense latch
not really that common nowadays the balance incin stuff has performed much better
polar canyon
You think all the people using meta mons in big championships didn't deserve their spots?
Or that it would be easy to be there if you were just using meta teams
short quiver
doubtful
polar canyon
You kinda have to think about it like the mons are popular because they're strong and not that they're strong just because they're popular
Change your view on it
polar canyon
You can still lose with stronger teams
short quiver
polar canyon
More often than you'd think
Besides I think you need a certain level of skill to be able to make more unorthodox stuff work, and just playing with what's known to be good is a good way to practice and improve and get more knowledge on how the game works
Denying that is just impatience
dense latch
im okay with losing
you should be
that's a good mentaility so long as your goal is to improve as you play and learn
polar canyon
I guess if the point of you playing is not improving then it doesn't matter as long as you're having fun
But if you ask for advice expect the stronger options you don't like being suggested
short quiver
i want to get better but i want to do it with mons i actually like playing not the exact same pokemon every other person has
polar canyon
You're saying it like a pokemon being popular locks it from being enjoyable
short quiver
im saying not all the popular mons are enjoyable to some people
like how can you possibly like, say, smeargle, incineroar, and tornadus
polar canyon
Ok but it sounds like none of the popular mons are enjoyable to you simply because they're popular
Ok smeargle is a different story that one is very unlikeable
short quiver
Ok but it sounds like none of the popular mons are enjoyable to you simply becau...
i like lunala, i like koraidon, i like zamazenta, i like ogerpon,
polar canyon
You can play lunala koraidon
short quiver
i LOVE whimsicott
polar canyon
Maybe slowly stepping out of the comfort zone can help then
Not every pokemon in the team has to be one you like if they at least compliment ones you like well
short quiver
like even with a tailroom team theres something gimmicky that immediately comes to mind
polar canyon
I also noticed you've been posting some replays on how nice cir was to use
Sounds like maybe using it for a while made you start enjoying it doesn't it
short quiver
I also noticed you've been posting some replays on how nice cir was to use
tailwind cir is really funny yeah
miraidon who? all i see is a frozen dead dragon
polar canyon
Yup that's also pretty much the same thing that happens when you use trick room instead of tailwind, would doing that make it lame and boring?
I'm not saying you should do that
Just asking what you think
short quiver
all i can think about is how to make something gimmicky. if it works hell yeah if not how can i make it work next time
like tailwind and then court change it to my opponent as my trick room goes up
short quiver
but it would be so funny if it works
polar canyon
If
dense latch
it's fine, lunala simply suffers from 4 move slot syndrome so it's hard to fit eforce in usually
short quiver
follow up question can i use raichu in this team 🥺
dense latch
i really doubt it
short quiver
i really doubt it
but….. my mouse……
my buddy….
how about umbreon 😃
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shadow wind
How does Palafin work with Weezing?
atomic mural
i believe it always works
shadow wind
Fire
short quiver
How does Palafin work with Weezing?
weezing doesnt shut off zero to hero?
shadow wind
No clue that's why I asked
foggy lodge
It doesn't
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.4
shadow wind
He watches
short quiver
so palafin usage should be skyrocketing rn
foggy lodge
why would it
dense latch
not really
lofty tartan
Not really. Palafin usage doesn't skyrocket because Gas doesn't affect it. It has other things that hose it
foggy lodge
Weezing is already like a sub 1% usage mon
short quiver
why would it
cuz weezing is fucking everywhere
lofty tartan
What
dense latch
weezing isn't great in reg h and palafin isn't either
short quiver
Weezing is already like a sub 1% usage mon
i must be super unlucky then
shadow wind
Twin no it ain't
solid frigate
honestly water type demand isn't that strong rn
dense latch
if you're talking about reg j just use urshifu
short quiver
if you're talking about reg j just use urshifu
no i mean H
i must just be hella unlucky
lofty tartan
Weezing is not everywhere in Reg H. Ladder is just roulette and also contains non-competitive teams.
shadow wind
I'm simply using Weezing cause I think I can cook
foggy lodge
You are just pulling some super specific MUs lmao
short quiver
You are just pulling some super specific MUs lmao
so hella unlucky
foggy lodge
Mhm
solid frigate
weezing's demand is not strong here cuz you don't have to shut down ability that often
Its only on high demand with restricted formats with some restricteds are tied to their own core mechanics for offense or defense
misty terrain tho
like misty surge weezing
lofty tartan
Meh.
shadow wind
I'm like pretty sure I didn't cook with my team but maybe I did
cyan smelt
yeah i was thinking about using misty surge weezing to shut down sneasler
and all the dragons
lofty tartan
Misty Surge doesn't shut down Sneasler lol
cyan smelt
at least stops dire claw rng
lofty tartan
It negates secondary effects from DC. If you're fishing for statuses off DC, you're in a bad spot already.
solid frigate
yeah i was thinking about using misty surge weezing to shut down sneasler
still not great when sneasler just do neutral with dire claw anyway
shadow wind
solid frigate
and sneasler often run with terrain setters like rilla and indeedee
solid frigate
Like oh no, I can't status you. Guess I'll just hit things really hard.
still 2HKOs geezing anyways with dire claw i think
lofty tartan
The advantage of negating status effects with the absolute disadvantage of having Weezing on your six. 
short quiver
im trying to calc if i can make eviolite hattrem work with korai lunala
foggy lodge
The advantage of negating status effects with the absolute disadvantage of havin...
Fr lol
Misty surge Weezing doesn't do anything outside of maybe clicking taunt or shit like that after setting the terrain
Can't even poison gas because of your own terrain
solid frigate
Can't even poison gas because of your own terrain
and can't burn anyone
like i said
Geezing's demand is very low in Regional/National dex
dense latch
strange steam can’t confuse either
lofty tartan
It also depends on your ranking too.
Like I said, ladder is just a roulette. Looking at games you've played is not a solid indicator of a meta.
foggy lodge
strange steam can’t confuse either
It can't?
dense latch
gen 7 onwards you cant get confused in misty terrain
short quiver
msity terrain says no unless theyre flying or levitating above the terrain
foggy lodge
Another win for Tapu Fini
I miss Tapu Fini so much that mon would have saved 90% of SV metagames
lofty tartan
Misty Terrain doesn't stop confusion.
Misty Terrain blocks non-volatile status conditions.
dense latch
Pokémon affected by Misty Terrain can no longer become confused.
addition in gen 7, used to be only non volatile
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.4
lofty tartan
addition in gen 7, used to be only non volatile
Ah that's where I missed it.
solid frigate
fini vs geezing in misty surge is that
lofty tartan
So even more reason to not use Misty Terrain
solid frigate
Fini can actually have damage and usually its status moves are not status condition inflicting
lofty tartan
I'll be honest, the documentation on Misty Terrain is exhaustive, compared to a lot of other things that deserve more information.
Since you also have to look into statuses
dense latch
Ah that's where I missed it.
yea it’s very easy to miss when fact checking in bulbapedia, they make you scroll all the way down to see all the changes
happened to me 2 minutes ago while checking misty terrain lmao
lofty tartan
yea it’s very easy to miss when fact checking in bulbapedia, they make you scrol...
Yeah it's unfortunate, because Serebii is really concise where Bulbapedia is really spread-out information
BUT Serebii sometimes lacks in information
shadow wind
I think I might be a Palafan
lofty tartan
Rillaboom loves this post.
shadow wind
My team is so anti Rillaboom I just realized
I have Weezing, Volc, and Incin
Musta been a roll
I love showdown chats
foggy lodge
If there's no Malamar on stream at Frankfurt then it will be a fake regional
lofty tartan
Guess here's hoping for a fake Regional
shadow wind
I just lost to a specs Mence that hit 3 hurricanes in a row
My bad I guess
Yknow weezing teams are pretty cool
When they don't get a broken horse to slap next to it they actually work pretty uniquely
short quiver
I really dislike MausApe
i assume mausape is just beat up maushold and rage fist annihilape
shadow wind
Yes
chrome knot
up 2-0 in da draft, singles is lowkey sm fun in draft format
rustic mountain
lele the goat
short quiver
chat how can i tell if this raichu i just got from a gts is fake
cyan smelt
Tree I watched that video from about 45 minutes and didn't catch them talking about bo1 surprise element, whereabouts did they talk about it
waxen dock
chat how can i tell if this raichu i just got from a gts is fake
what game is it from,what is its level ,his ivs and evs and if he is shiny or not
short quiver
what game is it from,what is its level ,his ivs and evs and if he is shiny or no...
its in home, its level 100, its shiny, and i cant tell the ivs. its timid and 4hp 252spa and 253spe
its probably fake i just wanna be sure
waxen dock
its in home, its level 100, its shiny, and i cant tell the ivs. its timid and 4h...
hacked probably
short quiver
hacked probably
according to this its from pokemon bank
idk if that changes anything
waxen dock
hacked.
ripe grail
I finally made it guys 😭 🙏🏻
Also for the 51 losses atleast 10 of em were games I was aboutta win but lost due to "server issues " ( most likely dc players )
@real prairie thank you sm for the help on the team
gentle cragBOT
<@330362488447041537> thank you sm for the help on the team
mercyy006 has given 1 Gen Rep to averagejack_yt
steep charm
Heya, can someone teach me competitive? I wanna be ready for ZA battle competition, even if I just get Greninjite.
@vapid comet yo SJ
you can help me get good at Competitive right?
vapid comet
short quiver
i was talking to my friend about a regional form and a mega for mimikyu
a ghost normal regional form that looks like eevee
and a fairy flying mega evolution that looks like charizard
real prairie
Heya, can someone teach me competitive? I wanna be ready for ZA battle competiti...
Don't think ZA will have competitive
cyan smelt
It has online ranked but it won't be like vgc
knotty mirage
I just wonder how laggy it could be if it's played on switch 1
short quiver
vgc will still be reg j in SV and H on showdown until february right
i wonder what the formats on champions will be called
fair holly
Is Regirock good in a trick room team?
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.4
short quiver
ÜN ÜN ÜN
i mean it seems to me like it would be good
but do not listen to me
im known for doing unconventional stuff that just doesnt work
fair holly
What IVs are these stats? all best IVs?
short quiver
What IVs are these stats? all best IVs?
those are base stats
fair holly
Base stats meaning what
real prairie
It's a shame the new mega starters are behind a paywall for ZA 😭
I mean I have online anyway, but know loads of people who don't
real prairie
Base stats meaning what
The stats that pokemon has at level 50 without any training or investments
fair holly
What IVs are these stats? all best IVs?
What would the IVs be in words
real prairie
You can read the IV and EV guides in the pinned
real prairie
What would the IVs be in words
IVs are your investments into individual stats to improve those stats.
It gets a little complicated from there so suggest reading the pinned
Equally if you want pre built IV spreads instead, look on https://munchstats.com/
short quiver
these are crazy stats btw
fair holly
They’re good?
short quiver
well
200 physical defense is WILD. 100 special defense isnt bad either. and 100 physical attack
fair holly
Like would base stats have no good IVs or what since they are without training/investments
short quiver
and 50 base speed should be just slow enough for the TR you asked for
short quiver
Like would base stats have no good IVs or what since they are without training/i...
should be based stats are no evs no ivs right?
no evs and 0 iv
its really really complicated
real prairie
Like would base stats have no good IVs or what since they are without training/i...
Based stats give you an idea of a pokemon before investing IVs, IVs are what make your pokemon unique to others. This is done through vitamins or training against various wild pokemon
fair holly
I’m just asking if base stats are considered no good/0 IV
short quiver
i believe so
also do you have an answer to there question if regirock is good in a TR team?
woven pelican
Based stats give you an idea of a pokemon before investing IVs, IVs are what mak...
vitamins or training? isn't that EV? IV increasing is bottle caps, no?(coming from a stupid player who doesn't comp)
fair holly
You’re right
short quiver
*vitamins or training? isn't that EV? IV increasing is bottle caps, no?(coming f...
you are correct lmao. evs are through training. ivs are hypertraining and naturally occuring
woven pelican
exactly i got confused
real prairie
*vitamins or training? isn't that EV? IV increasing is bottle caps, no?(coming f...
Sorry yes, I've just rolled out of bed haha
woven pelican
fair enough
short quiver
also do you have an answer to there question if regirock is good in a TR team?
does anyone know cuz i genuinely dont
fair holly
also do you have an answer to there question if regirock is good in a TR team?
Would a Regirock with a best IV speed be good in a trick room team?
short quiver
Would a Regirock with a best IV speed be good in a trick room team?
max iv no
fair holly
Is it still usable
real prairie
But yeah, base are before any IV improvements. Even 0 (no good) have a slight improvement on base stats due to level
woven pelican
you'd want 5iv with spd having nothing
short quiver
Is it still usable
70 speed is too fast. a mon with base speed 50 with 31 ivs would have 70 speed thats too fast
real prairie
fair holly
Oof I traded away my shiny Regirock with decent speed IV
real prairie
For example:
steep charm
Who can teach me competitive?
short quiver
so 0iv regirock should have 55 speed
steep charm
I wanna know
real prairie
Oof I traded away my shiny Regirock with decent speed IV
You'd probably want on with zero speed, you'd have to see what you'd want to speed creep in and out of trick room
woven pelican
we do competitive pokemon racing, not battling /j
fair holly
It’s difficult to get a 0 speed shiny legendary. I wanna use legendary
woven pelican
I'm bringing out my trick room regirock to the race fr
real prairie
so 0iv regirock should have 55 speed
Correct.
short quiver
Who can teach me competitive?
youve come to the right place, friend
real prairie
short quiver
see im smart
real prairie
I wanna know
Start by reading the pinned material 🙂
fair holly
It’s difficult to get a 0 speed shiny legendary. I wanna use legendary
Actually idk if Regirock is even available to use in rank
steep charm
youve come to the right place, friend
it’s the “competitive discussion” I can transfer my legends from any game, I basically have all legends
short quiver
and with a -spe nature it should become 50 again right?
short quiver
YAY IM SMART
steep charm
Where’s the pinned material?
short quiver
in the pins 🫠
short quiver
it’s the “competitive discussion” I can transfer my legends from any game, I bas...
just know the tapus, xerneas, yveltal, and zygarde are not in SV
real prairie
Here
real prairie
@steep charm
gentle cragBOT
Here is a list of all of the resources I find most helpful when playing/learning VGC:
https://www.vgcguide.com/ (Helpful website for basics and also to get your feet wet)
https://www.pikalytics.com/ (Shows you usage data and helps you build Pokémon)
https://nerd-of-now.github.io/NCP-VGC-Damage-Calculator/ (Damage calculator that is very helpful when building teams or reflecting on games)
https://youtube.com/c/CybertronVGC (Best channel for daily VGC content, guiding you through the thought process you need for success)
https://victoryroadvgc.com/ (Tournament results, team reports and breakdowns, and rental codes can be found here)
https://twitter.com/VGCPastes - Tournament and high ranked teams
https://twitter.com/vgccorner - Helpful Twitter account that posts in-depth EV spreads and ideas about competitive pokemon
There are dozens of other resources, some of which are in the pinned messages of this channel. But these IMO are the best places to start absorbing knowledge and getting to a place where you're comfortable with VGC
woven pelican
Ultra isn't in the game, dusk mane and dawn wings are tho since solga and nala are in the game
Unless you're on showdown then yeah ultra is banned regardless
gentle cragBOT
mlbd (ID 197813560997314562)
short quiver
omg chat i just realized. with champions having zmoves does that mean ultra necrozma is coming back 😮
real prairie
omg chat i just realized. with champions having zmoves does that mean ultra necr...
It could be, we don't know the mon list of champions yet
Although I suspect just to fuck with me, it won't have Ludicolo on launch
short quiver
It could be, we don't know the mon list of champions yet
if ultra necrozma comes back we are so cooked 😭
steep charm
omg chat i just realized. with champions having zmoves does that mean ultra necr...
Eevee’s extreme evoboost with baton pass into Arceus: 💀
short quiver
Eevee’s extreme evoboost with baton pass into Arceus: 💀
arceus will NOT be legal i guarantee it
steep charm
Isn’t it legal right now?
short quiver
zmoves arent
real prairie
Isn’t it legal right now?
Not for official competitive
short quiver
and its only temporary its a fun format rn
we are ending SV with a mythical legal restricted on cart ladder
real prairie
Official format is back to regulation H
woven pelican
this format is for the "fuck around and find out" players to truly run wild
short quiver
chat im scared i just had a very awful thought
woven pelican
doesn't mean you can fuck around too hard tho, some pokemon still definitely do not work
short quiver
chat im scared i just had a very awful thought
ultra necrozma psyspam 😨
steep charm
ultra necrozma psyspam 😨
psy???
short quiver
psyspam means psychic terrain plus expanding force
real prairie
psyspam means psychic terrain plus expanding force
It's nicknamed that because you just spam it to win games
short quiver
It's nicknamed that because you just spam it to win games
its a very game winning strat for sure
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.4
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.4
short quiver
real prairie
167 base SpAtk, jesus
short quiver
we are so fucked
mega delphox psyspam and ultra necrozma psyspam
Umbreon is gonna have a field day
fair holly
Ok thank you for the help @short quiver @real prairie @woven pelican
gentle cragBOT
Ok thank you for the help <@941169800061784115> <@330362488447041537> <@56071984...
hiimarandomdude has given 1 Gen Rep to averagejack_yt, darkluca, naganohara_akira
cyan smelt
I still find it funny how you can cheese the ultra necrozma fight in usum by disguising zoroark as something weak to psychic and just wall it
woven pelican
I got free rep for parroting information let's gaur
short quiver
I still find it funny how you can cheese the ultra necrozma fight in usum by dis...
you can do that in the psychic gym in SV too
short quiver
*I got free rep for parroting information let's gaur*
what are the rep things even for
woven pelican
reputation
short quiver
yeah and whats it for
real prairie
we are so fucked
Maybe not
252+ SpA Necrozma-Ultra Expanding Force (120 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Kyogre in Psychic Terrain: 66-78 (31.8 - 37.6%) -- 85.5% chance to 3HKO
short quiver
Maybe not
252+ SpA Necrozma-Ultra Expanding Force (120 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD ...
change that to light that burns the sky with eforce as the base move
woven pelican
yeah and whats it for
it's just a thing, they say it's to show how helpful you've been around the server and such, that's why there's different reps, raid rep, trade rep, breeding rep etc
short quiver
i see. so they just kinda exist in the server
woven pelican
yeah they serve no real purpose, just fun to have
woven pelican
you can go to #bot_commands and i think the command is -rep
short quiver
i have 8. hell yeah.
woven pelican
the fact i got raid rep is funny as fuck
short quiver
change that to light that burns the sky with eforce as the base move
hows it looking then
woven pelican
you want me to try it out
short quiver
im actually scared
real prairie
41 rep ain't bad I guess lol
real prairie
hows it looking then
252+ SpA Necrozma-Ultra Shattered Psyche (160 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Kyogre in Psychic Terrain: 118-139 (57 - 67.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Necrozma-Ultra Light That Burns the Sky vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Kyogre in Psychic Terrain: 147-174 (71 - 84%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
woven pelican
I can't test it out because there isn't a gamemode on showdown that lets me use necroz
hackmon bans psychium z, free for all is gen 9
short quiver
252+ SpA Necrozma-Ultra Shattered Psyche (160 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Assault Ves...
but how realistic is it for kyogre to have that specific statspresd
real prairie
but how realistic is it for kyogre to have that specific statspresd
252hp assault vest is quite common
short quiver
*hackmon bans psychium z, free for all is gen 9*
it doesnt even use psychium z it has its own zmove
real prairie
252hp assault vest is quite common
That's with zero SpDef investment
woven pelican
doesn't matter, item's illegal apparently
short quiver
That's with zero SpDef investment
but it does have AV so it makes up for 0 SpD
so if ultra necrozma comes back the answer to it is Umbreon, the horses, and kyogre.
real prairie
but it does have AV so it makes up for 0 SpD
And regice 😭🤣
short quiver
not even the horses it learns ghost type moves
short quiver
And regice 😭🤣
a random rock type move boosted by neuroforce:
it wont kill im sure but it WILL for SURE hurt
cyan smelt
I was thinking something along the lines of eject pack mence too haha
shadow wind
That's not a terrible idea either
cyan smelt
I tried it it still goes down too easy
And indeedee sneasler is still terrible for it
shadow wind
The idea is though I can lead it against things like Incin and then get a free switch into one of my physical attackers
And draco shenanigans
real prairie
People loving up on wolfes mons ATM
short quiver
woven pelican
necroz clears
cyan smelt
I was using mence for dragon cheer shenanigans but sniper kingdra is too slow
real prairie
People loving up on wolfes mons ATM
Kilowattrel + sash mamoswine
short quiver
*necroz clears*
ultra necrozma is a MENACE 😭
shadow wind
And draco is going to hurt regardless of the 110 base spatk
real prairie
I was using mence for dragon cheer shenanigans but sniper kingdra is too slow
Rain my friend
woven pelican
ultra necrozma is a MENACE 😭
I didn't even use the zmove because the ui didn't show up
real prairie
Oh wait sniper nvm
real prairie
Oh wait sniper nvm
Let me drink my tea and wake up
short quiver
*I didn't even use the zmove because the ui didn't show up*
umbreon is gonna go crazy if ultra necrozma becomes legal at any point in the near future
cyan smelt
So I either go swift swim dragon cheer scope lens or scarf sniper
Man I was using kilowattrel and mamoswine together
I feel like I touch on what the good players use but struggle to knit it into a coherent idea
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.4
real prairie
Dragon cheer Arch in a rain team 😭🤣
short quiver
latias mentioned
cyan smelt
You want arch to be attacking, not support
short quiver
You want arch to be attacking, not support
you can have a mon like lapras use dragon cheer FOR arch
real prairie
You want arch to be attacking, not support
I know, thus the cry face haha
Dragon cheer, tailwind, scale shot, Dragonite could work in a rain team with Kingdra and Arch
cyan smelt
3 dragons idk and would I need haze on there for set up mons and dozo?
cyan smelt
Being encore locked?
shadow wind
Nah it's the Carson team
real prairie
3 dragons idk and would I need haze on there for set up mons and dozo?
I don't run Haze tbf
shadow wind
Pluff doesn't have encore
short quiver
3 dragons idk and would I need haze on there for set up mons and dozo?
just do mono dragon at that point
shadow wind
They clicked eruption twice even though they have overheat
Then just forfeit the game for some reason
cyan smelt
Your idea could work jack but indeedee sneasler is still a huge problem
real prairie
Ok why would someone forfeit here
Assume you are not the sun team?
shadow wind
Yeah they forfeit not me
real prairie
They clicked eruption twice even though they have overheat
They choice locked?
real prairie
Strange behavior
shadow wind
I know right
Like Overheat at least does something
And unaware means it's consistent damage
Better than 50 BP eruption anyway
short quiver
i am happy to say chat i have a shiny umbreon for Champions comp
cyan smelt
Also when I was testing, psyspam was a problem
short quiver
<@&663761167176433665>
cyan smelt
<@&663761167176433665>
real prairie
just do mono dragon at that point
short quiver
i was so serious by the way
real prairie
And unaware means it's consistent damage
They probably aren't paying that any mind. Same way I often boost my arch in front of Donzono not realizing it does fuck all
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.4
short quiver
157 SpA is wild
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.4
shadow wind
They probably aren't paying that any mind. Same way I often boost my arch in fro...
Yeah but it was game 3 and I was asleep...
And you have 2 moves to click
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.4
short quiver
WOAH
shadow wind
Whoa what
short quiver
dawn wing is a whole 20 points slower
shadow wind
Yeah
short quiver
would i be cringe for trick room dawn wing psyspam
shadow wind
You're only as cringe as you think you are
short quiver
i mean theres some stuff thats genuinely cringe. like smeargle
woven pelican
remember: cringe is subjective, and how subjective it is, is how much you think it is
shadow wind
I have resorted to using Solodozo so my opinion barely matters anymore
short quiver
would saying smeargle is cringe be subjective or can we mutually agree on that
woven pelican
and I don't play comp so what do i know right
real prairie
If I remember right, dawn wing doesn't get wide guard or something like that which makes lunala more viable
Or trick room
shadow wind
I mean using Smeargle is smart so eh
real prairie
One of the two
shadow wind
Everything has a use and a counter
short quiver
If I remember right, dawn wing doesn't get wide guard or something like that whi...
yeah but dawn wing is slower and has 20 points more SpA
shadow wind
It's up to the player to use those how they want
real prairie
yeah but dawn wing is slower and has 20 points more SpA
Which is fine in single restricted, but double lunala offers support as well as damage
steep charm
Is “do damage and pray” a strategy?
short quiver
Is “do damage and pray” a strategy?
i mean yeah 😭
steep charm
YEAH!
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.4
steep charm
I knew my Deoxy’s, Arceus, Rayquaza, Dialga, and 2 more Arceus strat is amazing!
real prairie
it no learn wide guard <@330362488447041537>
Thought so
short quiver
I knew my Deoxy’s, Arceus, Rayquaza, Dialga, and 2 more Arceus strat is amazing!
that team is illegal
steep charm
that team is illegal
I use it commonly
shadow wind
Does anyone know if the Carson team's Zard is Timid or not?
short quiver
I use it commonly
its illegal online
steep charm
My brother was in BUBL once
short quiver
you can only have 2 restricted
steep charm
I gave him some tips but he no listen
real prairie
Right, I'm caffeinated now, anyone else need help before I crash 🤣
short quiver
I knew my Deoxy’s, Arceus, Rayquaza, Dialga, and 2 more Arceus strat is amazing!
theres no ruleset that allows you to use that team 😭
steep charm
Then you teach me
real prairie
theres no ruleset that allows you to use that team 😭
He might be playing singles on SD
short quiver
He might be playing singles on SD
that still wouldnt allow them to have 3 arceus right?
real prairie
that still wouldnt allow them to have 3 arceus right?
Depends on the mode, anything goes I'm sure it'll be fine 🤣
short quiver
Teach me competitive in game
you do not wanna learn from
me trust me
steep charm
you do not wanna learn from
me trust me
Why..
real prairie
Teach me competitive in game
Out of curiosity are you under the age of 15?
steep charm
Out of curiosity are you under the age of 15?
I do not wish to say, saying my age is uncomfortable for me
real prairie
I do not wish to say, saying my age is uncomfortable for me
I'll take that as a yes.
With that in mind, I suggest looking on YouTube for competitive pokemon 101
Wolfe does some good videos
short quiver
goat king Wolfe mentioned
steep charm
you mean the guy that lost in worlds?
short quiver
you mean the guy that lost in worlds?
hes also won worlds more than once
shadow wind
So we're just lying now
steep charm
hes also won worlds more than once
Incineroar cough cough
shadow wind
No one has won worlds more than once other than Rizzo
real prairie
you mean the guy that lost in worlds?
He's won 10+ regionals and a worlds and is a pretty consistent content creator, there are worse people to learn from
short quiver
No one has won worlds more than once other than Rizzo
didnt wolfe win twice 🥀
shadow wind
God no
real prairie
didnt wolfe win twice 🥀
Nope just 2016
short quiver
God no
this new person asked ME to teach them comp. how funny is that?
i straight up told them they dont wanna learn from me
im famous here for trolling
real prairie
i straight up told them they dont wanna learn from me
We can read too 😭
short quiver
We can read too 😭
wrll connor wasnt here im filling them in
real prairie
wrll connor wasnt here im filling them in
Valid
shadow wind
Man this guy just burnt my ttar twice with heat wave
short quiver
Man this guy just burnt my ttar twice with heat wave
id crash out
shadow wind
Eh
We're going to a game three so it doesn't really matter
I also mad flinched him so there's levels to it
short quiver
We're going to a game three so it doesn't really matter
i was talking about ultra necrozma possibly in champions
eforce ultra necrozma will for sure be a thing
short quiver
*and I don't play comp so what do i know right*
i found out why you couldnt find the UI for light that burns the sky
im an idiot 😭
light that burns the sky is exclusive to the necrozma knowing prismatic laser
woven pelican
ohhh
short quiver
im an idiot 😭
short quiver
Something is fishy here
yeah now thats sus
short quiver
Guy got the rainbow set up or something
or all of his mons secretly have serene grace
woven pelican
okay do i like setup psychic terrain first before prismatic
short quiver
im thinking dawn wing TR psyspam with korai and walking wake
short quiver
*okay do i like setup psychic terrain first before prismatic*
for psychic boost for calc
woven pelican
ogay
short quiver
im thinking dawn wing TR psyspam with korai and walking wake
and also possibly brute bonnet
i dont like that id probably have to use it but yk sacrifices must be made
woven pelican
I can't realistically make this battle happen
i only have gen 9 custom battle
and in gen 9 zmoves don't exist
short quiver
🫠
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.4
woven pelican
just know that if expan can deal that much after only 3 moves(I forgot to setup psychic beforehand), imagine the dmg for light that burns the sky
short quiver
*just know that if expan can deal that much after only 3 moves(I forgot to setup...
the meta will be cooked
and im both scared and happy to say that
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.4
short quiver
why is it slow 😒
woven pelican
when you're packing that much hands you gotta get handicapped here and there
short quiver
*when you're packing that much hands you gotta get handicapped here and there*
i lowkey wanna physical necrozma :3
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.4
short quiver
hm……
short quiver
hell yeah
shadow wind
Alright last straw came and I am a camel
Enough time has passed
Perish trap here I come
cyan smelt
Who you gonna use
shadow wind
Probably Altaria
I don't just want to recreate Wolfey's team
So I feel like a certain frog is off limits
cyan smelt
I was considering altaria because weather was annoying me then I learnt most archaludon are going power herb sturdy
next stump
yoooooo finally a regional is on
next stump
solid frigate
What am I looking at-
next stump
the beauty of reg H
solid frigate
waxen dock
What am I looking at-
jamie boyt team
woven pelican
a kamen rider gift? In this economy?
woven pelican
*a kamen rider gift? In this economy?*
please send more i am interested
waxen dock
so fun to miss move that made me lose my game
next stump
but very fun when opponent misses move to lose them the game
woven pelican
even more funner when both of you miss your moves
cyan smelt
When I use the move it always misses and when my opponent uses the move it always hits
waxen dock
but very fun when opponent misses move to lose them the game
it would have been, if it ever happend
real prairie
Completely forgot there was a regional on, any good teams to watch for?
real prairie
Assault vest poison touch Sneasler is wild
solid frigate
*please send more i am interested*
real prairie
I've played Jacob maybe 10 times in ladder before this regional, had no idea it was him 🤣 ggs
solid frigate
Francesco is running Pherb Archa?
real prairie
Hahaha 2 fissures
foggy lodge
Hurricane into confusion into hitting itself into draco miss into 2 fissures
This is one of the battles of all times
stone trellis
yo <@856574176398802986> i might actually have been cooking
What did you make?
solid frigate
Another fissure 🤣🤣🤣
Do it again
bold geode
Stream eating shit?
dense latch
yea it’s really bad
dense latch
idt there’s a way to watch the first few rounds either
forest arrow
Great start to the season lmao
next stump
oh shit lol I'm on Round 4 rewatching the stream, does it cut eventually?
see if this link works for older rounds
it's what I'm on now
dense latch
see if this link works for older rounds
yeah the rewind cuts out at -8 minutes
bold geode
Yeah now he brings in Sini
Huge turn for Thomas, was risky AF tho
Still not out of it
Also the Goldie naturally outspeeds the Ape
Nikolaj in good position
Nah
It's over
Oh?
I think Niko wins cuz like
Imma go ahead and guess that Niko's Incin is tankier
left bobcat
Hmmm I’m wondering won’t mega greninja just have the same stats as ash greninja?
forest arrow
AV Incin 🔥
I just noticed they both have AV incin 🔥
waxen dock
Hmmm I’m wondering won’t mega greninja just have the same stats as ash greninja?
cuz ash greninja get +110 bst while megas get +100
also ash greninja stat boosts are pretty bnoring
+50 to both attack stats and +10 speed isnt very original
red willow
So like in what scenario is it good to click sd/nasty plot? Like when I think oppo is going to protect/switch?
waxen dock
So like in what scenario is it good to click sd/nasty plot? Like when I think op...
how much does the wrong preiction affects you?
red willow
Pretty badly if its nasty plot off csr cause that things squish as hell
left bobcat
cuz ash greninja get +110 bst while megas get +100
Oh I never realized that
red willow
But not as bad on Arceus cause it has some natural bulk
spiral ridge
foggy lodge
4 Atk Annihilape Rage Fist vs. +1 0 HP / 4 Def Sneasler: 159-187 (102.5 - 120.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
lmao the crit didn't matter
bold geode
ANNIHILAPE CLEAN UP DAMN
forest arrow
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.4
bold geode
Shield Dust is a Covert Cloak iirc
foggy lodge
Yes
foggy lodge
dense latch
holy shit ray rizzo
next stump
42 americans god damn
waxen dock
42 americans god damn
why are you suprised? its like that there are americans in toronto and vancouver
maybe there are a little less players than the canada ones but its still not that far away for them i think
next stump
1 in 5 people being american in a mexican regional that’s kinda far from the US surprises me
especially cause it’s the first tourney of the year and there’s another US regional next week
next stump
pointless to argue about lol, i see what you’re saying but it still surprises me every time I see high US representation in a foreign tournament
lofty tartan
I haven't been surprised about it. The same is visible in TCG, and people want the points for qualifications.
Especially where TCG usually exceeds 1500
For Regionals that are either in Canada or Mexico, that's a lot easier than something like Stuttgart.
Though I have been considering hitting a foreign regional myself, this year.
Yo Dillon I'll be arriving in Pittsburgh around noon on Thursday. 
next stump
nice 🙂 I’m getting in Friday afternoon or so
lofty tartan
No doubt. I always arrive early now because my first regional, I had to kinda run around a little crazy
I really like casually arriving Friday for badge/bracelet
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.4
foggy lodge
Ribombee is super interesting actually
Fairy coverage for this format + super fast tailwind + inmune to scale shots and fake outs
dense latch
they fixed stream thankfully now i can watch r2-r4 :))
foggy lodge
Hmmmmmmmmmmm
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.4
foggy lodge
Idk if its better than Vivillon
dense latch
which you can afford to fully invest on
bold geode
1 in 5 people being american in a mexican regional that’s kinda far from the US ...
We are taking over the whole circuit bro
Now if we can figure out how to beat Mausape again, the format will be gas
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.4
bold geode
Honestly for Pitts I predict either one or two things will happen with no in between
- Mausape will ball out cuz everyone will join em instead of trying to beat em
Or - Everyone actually preps for Mausape and it bombs
waxen dock
Do you think there will be global challenges?
Cause only grand challenges got annpunced
real prairie
yeah, global challenges are usually towards the end of the run
teams from day 1 out yet? i need inspiration
foggy lodge
Jamie Boyt's team was cool
short quiver
i wonder if he didn’t give any of his mons items
sash ribombee could have saved his ass
upper zealot
what's with the rise of mausape again
next stump
there’s not much that outright beats it
short quiver
there’s not much that outright beats it
normal types and dark types get fucked by drain punch and anything else getsbfucked by rage fist
dense latch
https://x.com/playpokemon/status/1966804911007408183?s=46 idk if anyone shared this already but here
X
nothing too crazy though peli might’ve dropped a bit in usage
next stump
<@197813560997314562> are there any locals weekend after milwaukee?
I don’t think there’s any scheduled in october yet
none that I can see
chrome knot
okaoka
shadow wind
https://x.com/playpokemon/status/1966804911007408183?s=46 idk if anyone shared t...
This isn't a world I wanna live in 😔
solid frigate
https://x.com/playpokemon/status/1966804911007408183?s=46 idk if anyone shared t...
dengo #2
I'll take Dengo over ape
hell i would take Ursalunas over ape
shadow wind
I despise Ape as well
solid frigate
I despise Ape as well
i don't necessary despise it
short quiver
yo chat mega flygon still has hope
chrome knot
sceptile
shadow wind
Is that not sceptile?
chrome knot
:D
short quiver
Is that not sceptile?
shhhhhhhh
solid frigate
can somebody check mega sceptile's mega stone
short quiver
can somebody check mega sceptile's mega stone
that is sceptiles
atomic mural
yo the inside colors are swapped
chrome knot
local tomorrow bringin the friends 
short quiver
yo the inside colors are swapped
its a flygonite i scream as they drag me back to the white room
shadow wind
yo the inside colors are swapped
It's probably just a different angle
short quiver
wait woah the colors ARE swapped 😃