I think its a little unfair for seniors cuz they have to fight a master
#competitive_discussion
stone trellis
Yeah, but again, I didn't do it on purpose.
waxen dock
Yeah, but again, I didn't do it on purpose.
Ok
stone trellis
Typhlosion just genuinely wins for the love of the game.
The man doesn't miss a single Heat Wave.
waxen dock
The man doesn't miss a single Heat Wave.
While i missed meteor beam which without the miss i would probably be top 6
waxen dock
No we just click at the aame time it might work
waxen dock
Are you in Masters?
No
stone trellis
Aight.
stone trellis
I called the Gholdengo Teraing to Dragon, I might be the GOAT.
waxen dock
How mamy battles do ypu have?
stone trellis
I'll tell you how many I have when the game ends.
waxen dock
Ok
stone trellis
I hate it when I disconnect for no fucking reason.
Anyway, I got 9 games as of right now.
waxen dock
Anyway, I got 9 games as of right now.
and whats your elo?
stone trellis
waxen dock
so you can probably get 1630
waxen dock
I keep fucking disconnecting.
maybe go to a place withbetter internet in your home
stone trellis
I'm right next to the router, there's no way to get a better internet connection.
Half of the team has bad Tera Types and I'm still cooking.
waxen dock
im so gratefull i have good internet
stone trellis
Toby Maguire got bit by a spider. Me? Must've been bit by a goat.
stone trellis
It might all be my opponents, to be honest.
waxen dock
i think i can get top 32
if i do i will probably get cp
i need these 75 points cuz for me its 75 or nothing
cuz of the kicker
stone trellis
I couldn't care less about the Championship Points.
I'm genuinely doing this all purely for the love of the game.
waxen dock
i need those
stone trellis
Hope you get top 8.
waxen dock
i have good chance if i get top 32 at the end of the gc
waxen dock
Hope you get top 8.
thanks
stone trellis
Dnite lived a Hyper Voice from Primarina at 1 HP.
Him and Typhlosion are putting up LeBron numbers.
How much do you think Tera Fire single-target Eruption at full HP (without sun) does to P2?
HOW DID THAT SHIT DO CLOSE TO 80%?
waxen dock
How much do you think Tera Fire single-target Eruption at full HP (without sun) ...
its aint eviolite
probably
unless youre specs
stone trellis
It's Scarf Modest.
waxen dock
It's Scarf Modest.
so its 1. crit 2. not eviolie 3. maybe low spdf p2 and high role
one of these
but i do think it wasnt eviolite
was it single or double target?
waxen dock
im just 1619.917
waxen dock
HOW DID THAT SHIT DO CLOSE TO 80%?
no eviolite
or a crit
i saw in the gc today protect incin and special gyardos so no eviolite p2 isnt that weird to me probably just a bad player
stone trellis
was it single or double target?
Single target, no crit.
waxen dock
so probably high roll and low defenses
stone trellis
Yeah, but that shit still surprised me.
I finished day 1 at #71 with a rating of 1561.
waxen dock
I finished day 1 at #71 with a rating of 1561.
thats a solid elo
stone trellis
I think Garchomp was the call here.
cyan smelt
paul what tera should garchomp be again
stone trellis
Man just mauls everyone, he doesn't give a singular fuck about anything.
Water or Fairy.
foggy lodge
252+ SpA Typhlosion Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 84 SpD Eviolite Porygon2: 86-102 (44.7 - 53.1%) -- 25% chance to 2HKO
Possible damage amounts: (86, 86, 88, 88, 90, 90, 92, 92, 94, 94, 96, 96, 98, 98, 100, 102)
Tf was that P2
Oops fucking damage calculator
foggy lodge
252+ SpA Typhlosion Eruption (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 84 SpD Eviolite Porygon2: 79-94 (41.1 - 48.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Possible damage amounts: (79, 81, 81, 82, 84, 84, 85, 85, 87, 88, 88, 90, 91, 91, 93, 94)
It had to be a non eviolite P2
stone trellis
Tera Fire Typhlosion, single target.
foggy lodge
Oh it was tera fire
252+ SpA Tera Fire Typhlosion Eruption (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 84 SpD Eviolite Porygon2: 106-126 (55.2 - 65.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Possible damage amounts: (106, 108, 108, 110, 112, 112, 114, 114, 116, 118, 118, 120, 122, 122, 124, 126)
Its single target
foggy lodge
252+ SpA Tera Fire Typhlosion Eruption (150 BP) vs. 4 HP / 4 SpD Eviolite Porygon2: 116-138 (72 - 85.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Possible damage amounts: (116, 118, 120, 120, 122, 124, 124, 126, 128, 128, 130, 132, 132, 134, 136, 138)
Maybe it was like 0 bulk? Lol
stone trellis
252+ SpA Tera Fire Typhlosion-Hisui Eruption (150 BP) vs. 244 HP / 84 SpD Porygon2: 126-150 (65.9 - 78.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Perhaps I just got lucky with a high roll and P2 had slightly less bulk than this.
solid frigate
4-6
I have to lock in for Positive
cyan smelt
ok i've won 5 in a row on showdown now, definitely should have used garchomp
stone trellis
So my hunch was right.
Well, at least you know what to bring to Brisbane (if you end up going there).
solid frigate
This Format is not my strong suit
Might have just used to Restricted Level of Pokémon than Normal Level
waxen dock
does the rankkings in the gc show your rank in your region or overall rank?
aint no way im just 1619 and im 9th place
stone trellis
It's funny to me how Archaludon and Hisuian Samurott have the same HP, Speed and Special Defense.
Also, it makes sense.
waxen dock
It's funny to me how Archaludon and Hisuian Samurott have the same HP, Speed and...
but their defense is completly diffrent
stone trellis
It's only day 1, so people haven't played enough games to reach really high ratings.
waxen dock
It's only day 1, so people haven't played enough games to reach really high rati...
but 9th place in a tour with 2k people
stone trellis
Just accept that you're doing well.
waxen dock
ok
stone trellis
How do I remove this shit from my screen, by the way?
I can't make it scroll down.
And even when I do, I have no option to just close that shit.
Finally.
cyan smelt
at least i know that blursa was not it
waxen dock
Just accept that you're doing well.
maybe too well
pulsar bay
what's a good end game cleaner for hard trick room teams? I play singles
waxen dock
what's a good end game cleaner for hard trick room teams? I play singles
torkoal
waxen dock
you said tr
pulsar bay
you said tr
when my trick room setters are knocked out and tr is down
pulsar bay
so it isnt a hard tr team
it's all slow mons
I needa fast endgame sweeper
especially when my tr setters are gone
pulsar bay
there are supposed to be 3 tr setters in hard tr
I have like hatterene and porygon 2 setters the rest of my mons are hard hitters in tr
chrome knot
so it isnt a hard tr team
?
pulsar bay
my team struggles at end game when the tr setters are gone
dense latch
hard tr doesn’t need three setters especially in singles where it’s likely a 3v3
waxen dock
my team struggles at end game when the tr setters are gone
so bring 2 tr setters
pulsar bay
I do
pulsar bay
I really need to make those 4 turns count
waxen dock
I really need to make those 4 turns count
its 3 turns to ko 3 mons
i think its enough turns
pulsar bay
its 3 turns to ko 3 mons
6v6s
dense latch
what format are you playing in
pulsar bay
so why didnt you say?
mb
pulsar bay
what format are you playing in
ou
dense latch
tr doesn’t sound great to me in singles that’s probably the bigger issue
pulsar bay
tr doesn’t sound great to me in singles that’s probably the bigger issue
I really rely on hitting extremely hard because switching and setup wastes tr turns
dense latch
i'll try that
also last respects is banned in smogon iirc
knotty mirage
I have question does payback power will still be doubled if the openent goes first and use status move or will it only be doubled if they use attacking move ?
waxen dock
I have question does payback power will still be doubled if the openent goes fir...
it doesnt say anything about attacking
i think only if you move after the target
knotty mirage
Oh really i just want to make sure because i thought payback work the same as avalanche
wild cloud
Hi everyone i want to play competetive
But i dont know a good team.
Can someone help me with building a good team?
chrome knot
<:incin_hey:787169810865324042>
oop gotta go
bold geode
oop gotta go
BUT WHY
chrome knot
bc ur here(stinky….)
waxen dock
Dollarmonke how is your gc run?
bold geode
bc ur here(stinky….)
Nuh Uh
waxen dock
Turns out i fought a japanese player
bold geode
Dollarmonke how is your gc run?
Low-key haven't started yet
waxen dock
In the gc
bold geode
I see
real prairie
Hi everyone i want to play competetive
But i dont know a good team.
Can someone ...
check the pinned and #rental_teams
solid frigate
7-7
stone trellis
maybe too well
That's fine.
Though I guess it'd be better if you started off in the middle ranges and ended day 3 with a high rating, rather than starting off high and having to maintain that rating for the whole weekend.
stone trellis
The fuck have you been doing to that Switch?
solid frigate
The fuck have you been doing to that Switch?
It’s like 7 years old and it’s the screen protector
The same one I used 7 years ago
chrome knot
peel it off
stone trellis
I've had mine for six, but yeah, you should replace the screen protector.
Nevermind, that would cost 50 bucks on its own.
manic vapor
hey, I'm looking for a site (not smogon) that contains the usage statistics in battle stadium singles - during SuMo the site (from pokemon itself I think) displayed the top used pokemon and all their stats including nature, moves, and with which other mons they have been used. does anyone know?
next stump
munchstats or pikalytics
manic vapor
munchstats or pikalytics
those are not directly from pokemon itself, are they?
the one I'm talking about provided statistics of each season in SuMo
bold geode
That protector is holding on for dear life, buy another
bold geode
Nevermind, that would cost 50 bucks on its own.
Paying 50 after 7 years isn't like horrible
bold geode
peel it off
Does your screen protector feel good on your Switch? Peel it off
next stump
you can check the pokemon home app for data directly from pokemon
manic vapor
you can check the pokemon home app for data directly from pokemon
maybe it was that...?
solid frigate
Paying 50 after 7 years isn't like horrible
- I think I have a Backup screen Protector in one of my drawers
bold geode
+ I think I have a Backup screen Protector in one of my drawers
THEN CHANGE YOUR SCREEN YA FUCKIN IDIOT
solid frigate
THEN CHANGE YOUR SCREEN YA FUCKIN IDIOT
I HAVE TO FIND IT IDK WHERE I PUT IT
waxen dock
you can check the pokemon home app for data directly from pokemon
I didnt know it existed until half a year ago
red willow
If I was oppo Id be so mad they had the lead and I clicked dire claw and rolled a critical after fakeout on cinderace and it died without doing a damn thing lol
lofty tartan
I didnt know it existed until half a year ago
It hasn't existed incredibly long. Pokemon Home is only 5 years old.
chrome knot
mika!
lofty tartan
bold geode
Yay Grandpa is visiting
chrome knot
lofty tartan
I covered about 75km just at work this week.
near crag
Did the gc already start or is it just weekends?
lofty tartan
Both.
And not every weekend. Just scheduled ones.
So it's already started, and it only runs for this weekend.
real prairie
Live streaming my GC if anyone is interested its in the self promo section 🙂
stone trellis
A really big (in terms of subscribers) gay Canadian YouTube video essayist who was called out for plagiarising around 60% of his videos.
And now he's doing God knows what.
stone trellis
thanks for calling that miss though 😭
You got a double miss on Muddy Water?
I might be him.
real prairie
haha no just 1 miss, just right as you called it
stone trellis
I'm like Blunder with the Sucker Punch plays when it comes to calling when a move will miss.
real prairie
just had the double miss haha
stone trellis
Does Prankster Coaching work in Psychic Terrain?
bold geode
I don't wanna play against Hard TR Psyspam Grandpa
real prairie
Does Prankster Coaching work in Psychic Terrain?
nah
stone trellis
I need to keep this in mind then.
Coaching, Feint, CC and Protect on Riolu? (I am genuinely losing it after the Ice Spinner on Indeedee incident today)
All I had to do was use Ice Spinner to damage Indeedee and destroy Psychic Terrain, why the hell did I go for E-Speed?
real prairie
I really needed to bring a grass type counter for my team
thinking logically, bringing Decorate over an actual pokemon has probably hindered me
end day one 8-7
my worst start to a GC this year
on the plus side, my thumbnail looks cool 🤣
bold geode
11-4 with Palafin
solid frigate
on the plus side, my thumbnail looks cool 🤣
Same with me here
8-7 with Greninja+Gallade team
cyan smelt
Hopefully I do better today but blursa over garchomp really hurt me
red willow
Do I need to complete 15 battles before midnight for max possible rating?
next stump
no not necessarily
technically it's optimal to wait until the final day and play your games then, but most people don't
twin kindle
I was like top 10 uesterday for a sight moment cuz nobody was playing yet lmao
cyan smelt
annihilape is a champ, it just 2v1 a dozogirl
idk why i haven't used this pokemon before, it's amazing
so far i've gone 12-2 with this new team, it feels good
think i need to replace smeargle with greninja though
kilowattrel needs sash and i need loaded dice
polar canyon
Smorgle
red willow
Lmaooooo just had an oppo quit the battle cause they thought I was gonna flare blitz their rilla
(We locked willo wisp on incin)
waxen dock
im now 16-4 in gc
waxen dock
i was 12-3
bold geode
Played a bit worse for my Day 2 games but we still doing good for rn
Gotta round it off well for Day 3 tomorrow
bold geode
Keep er going
cyan smelt
I'm gonna have to try and do better even though it was a mistake to put ursaluna bm instead of garchomp
Tough with this brain fog
waxen dock
I'll definitely go 10-20, but I don't care.
NAH UR GOOD
i think you can do something l25-5
wind sparrow
Wsp Guys
I am likely not gonna be here for 2 more eons bc i barely use this thing
Btw i play showdown now : O
stone trellis
i think you can do something l25-5
Currently at 17-10.
At least three of the losses were due to me playing too safe and getting read, so I might have to work on that.
cyan smelt
At least you have a positive wr
stone trellis
AV Kingambit might honestly be the best option for its item, if I'm being honest.
If only I could actually use Tera Flying...
stone trellis
At least you have a positive wr
So I guess my original vision for the team is the way to go.
My only issue is a lack of ability to actually hit Water types for super effective.
cyan smelt
I'm trying out water shuriken greninja next to bulk up annihilape and it's going decently but I need a way to deal with tr
cyan smelt
If it's hatterene I can't do any of those things
stone trellis
Parting Shot's funny.
stone trellis
See, into Magic Bounce, the interaction gets reversed.
So Hatterene is forced to switch out and Incin's stats get lowered.
stone trellis
How much does Annihilape do to Hatterene?
cyan smelt
Not enough before it gets taken out by dgleam or eforce
stone trellis
Fair.
cyan smelt
Stalwart archaludon seems good
stone trellis
AV?
cyan smelt
Power herb?
stone trellis
I'm getting a weird sense of deja vu.
I think we've had this exact discussion before.
cyan smelt
I saw stalwart archaludon on the mamoswine team
stone trellis
Regardless, I need your help.
cyan smelt
With?
stone trellis
What do I change to make my team better equipped against Water types?
cyan smelt
Can you link a paste again
stone trellis
cyan smelt
The obvious answer is add archaludon
stone trellis
Where?
cyan smelt
Well stamina means it gets bulkier than gambit
But idk that throws off the whole balance
How about gastrodon
stone trellis
I want to damage Water ty- I got it.
Solar Beam on Torkoal.
It gets Tera Grass.
It's perfect.
cyan smelt
How about tera blast instead, doesn't need rain to function
stone trellis
Fair.
real prairie
Giga drain tera grass volcarona aswell
stone trellis
I don't want to add a third Fire type to my team, bro.
real prairie
I got completely walled by one of those
real prairie
I don't want to add a third Fire type to my team, bro.
Not sure what your team is haha just making anti water suggestions
stone trellis
https://pokepast.es/b4638f0235599528
This is the team.
cyan smelt
Here's an out there suggestion, what about vileplume, can giga drain and put sneasler to sleep while resisting both stabs
stone trellis
Again, where?
Who does it replace?
Also, the hardest part now is to decide which of Torkoal's moves gets replaced with Tera Blast.
cyan smelt
I don't know who it replaces
stone trellis
Heat Wave it is.
stone trellis
I love random battles.
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9randombattle-2436254688
chilly anvil
I was saved by a 33% protect
Ho Oh, Koraidon vs Weezing and Farigiraf in a Trickroom last turn. The Farigiraf had +3 special attack and Hyper Voice. Last turn of trick room I protected with both while my Ho Oh protected the turn before, but hit the 33% jackpot. After that I took the win.
dapper girder
https://pokepast.es/a179617c3d607415
what you guys think new to competitive and want to get into the ranked battles. It’s for singles reg J
oak finch
been trying to play on the doubles ladder and cant find trainers for the last 30 mins 😭
cyan smelt
I guess you're after advice for reg J?
dapper girder
I guess you're after advice for reg J?
Yes singles 3v3
dapper girder
Oh right 😂
stone trellis
It's all either Showdown singles or VGC, unfortunately.
cyan smelt
Smogon might be better
dapper girder
It's all either Showdown singles or VGC, unfortunately.
Thanks for the heads up, I try to play on showdown but I feel like I always face player who set up hazards and then just whirl wind all the time 😂
gentle cragBOT
Thanks for the heads up, I try to play on showdown but I feel like I always face...
tuxx0029 has given 1 Gen Rep to skywarsveteran1607
stone trellis
Thanks for the heads up, I try to play on showdown but I feel like I always face...
I mean, that is the essence of singles.
That's kind of what you guys do.
dapper girder
You don’t see it as much on console
stone trellis
Having 6V6 singles on cart ladder would be great.
dapper girder
Last game I played was ultra sun started playing agin like a week ago and was like what the hell is this what pokemon battles are like now
cyan smelt
Games would take too long on cart if it were 6v6 singles
dapper girder
Same as yugioh lol not played in years came back the other day to try and play and it’s so different it’s all like 1 card combo decides everything 😂
stone trellis
Games would take too long on cart if it were 6v6 singles
Oh yeah, I forgot that singles matches take 90 hours to complete.
stone trellis
I love random battles.
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9randombattle-24362...
Take this as an example.
40 turns is equal to 5 VGC matches of slightly above average duration.
stone trellis
VGC is a doubles format, so it might be quite difficult to adapt to for a singles player.
dapper girder
Also in doubles is it the same like singles everyone just has same teams or do people actually innovate
stone trellis
People do innovate.
Even in a team with the same Pokemon, the items, moves, abilities, Tera Types and EVs might be entirely different.
Is it still the same team if 90% of its components have changed?
dapper girder
Yeah like after being away for few years and not playing ranked I like playing With Pokemon I actually like but it’s impossible sometimes can only get you so far once you reach masterbal tier literally last 6 opponents I faced had exactly same teams
stone trellis
There was this one final round on a regional tournament.
Both players were using Calyrex-Shadow, Zamazenta and Chien-Pao, but their sets were largely different.
dapper girder
Im ok with that things i cant stand is for example last 4 matches i faced last night was ting lu spikes rocks then whirl wind me out their ting lu died then their ho-oh did same whirlwind me out and they won game like that 🙈
stone trellis
I get it.
stone trellis
Well, VGC has those as well as their counterparts.
(Miraidon and Calyrex-Ice have actually won more tournaments than Koraidon or Calyrex-Shadow in Scarlet and Violet, but the CSR glazers can't cope with the fact that it's currently fifth in terms of tournament wins and Miraidon just does its shit better)
dapper girder
Il have to try doubles, so in doubles I’m guessing no hazzards or set ups etc it’s all about follow me, protect etc right ?
stone trellis
Il have to try doubles, so in doubles I’m guessing no hazzards or set ups etc it...
To a degree, yes.
Redirection and Protect are quite important in VGC.
dapper girder
Appreciate the feed back and tips 👊🏽
brave hazel
Just a question for the comp scene in terms of the new battle system in ZA
Tournaments & worlds have always been the standard turn based yes ? & that will never change
next stump
yes, always has been turn based and likely always will be
which means there won’t be VGC in the new legends game
next stump
welcome to seniors division
waxen dock
so fun to miss focus balst that ohkos probably and then get critted
guys im number 4 in gc
wild cloud
Guys idk if my team is good for competetive
Can u say if my team is good?
The team..
Flutter mane
Water type ogerpon
Ceruledge
Noivern
Kingambit
Iron hands
Iron hands
waxen dock
Guys idk if my team is good for competetive
Can u say if my team is good?
The t...
iron hands flutter and ogerpon are banned
so no i guess
wild cloud
It is for ranked
waxen dock
<@761890689272643595>
maybe p2 balance
wild cloud
What is that i am new to competitive
waxen dock
archetpye
next stump
Guys idk if my team is good for competetive
Can u say if my team is good?
The t...
are you looking to play single or double battles
wild cloud
are you looking to play single or double battles
Double
I want a good team but it is hard to make 1
next stump
in the game itself or real life tournaments?
wild cloud
Tournaments and ig
next stump
unfortunately the in game online ladder and what you play in real life tournaments have different rules
so you kinda gotta choose one, at least to start
wild cloud
Tournaments then
next stump
okay so you’ll be playing using the ruleset called “Regulation H”, which bans all legendary and paradox pokemon from being used
wild cloud
Ok
next stump
so a few of your original team members aren’t legal
wild cloud
I see
So what then?
Can u maybe help me build a good team i would rlly apreciate that.
@next stump
next stump
step one is seeing teams that other people use. I’ll link a website where you can get some ideas
wild cloud
K
real prairie
"so hows GC going"
me:
chrome knot
politoed
wild cloud
https://victoryroad.pro/sv-rental-teams-reg-set-h/
I still cant pick a team this is rlly hard
@next stump i think i am going for in game and not tournaments
next stump
in game ruleset is called Regulalation J, it allows for all legendary and mythical pokemon basically
You’ll need to have two restricted legendary pokemon to be competitive, I’ll send a list of those
next stump
oh true lol weird serebii doesn’t have them
chrome knot
calyrex and its rider forms are all still one species iirc
red willow
Yeah but nobody is ever rolling up with unmounted caly lol
chrome knot
also this is a very incorrect list for the format bc like 3 of these aren’t in the game
red willow
Oh yeah no yveltal or xern fs
chrome knot
or zygarde
real prairie
finished day 2 with 23-7
GGs
deft crescent
bro.... I went to battle in the grand challenge and I forgot to give whimsicott prankster...
red willow
Its okay I have wrong tera type on 2 mons and have willowisp instead of flare blitz on Incin lmao
chrome knot
how does this even happen
red willow
I was testing Incin on Arch rain and preferred wisp over blitz there
But I decided on sneasler balance last minute but forgot to change back
bold geode
how does this even happen
These people girl I swear
I'm so meticulous about my building cuz of these reasons
bold geode
I triple check everything
red willow
Well ya see
Wisp incin is absolutely poppin off rn
(Not really somebody did quit the battle cause they thought I was on blitz tho lmao)
stone trellis
My final score for day 2 is 18-12.
Not as good as I expected, but not bad.
I didn't even give Frisk to Typhlosion, I just realised that.
Whole time, I was playing with Blaze on.
stone trellis
It did.
waxen dock
I have bad ovs on my ghold
stone trellis
Whole time, I was wondering why Heat Wave was doing Choice Band Mega Rayquaza calcs on everybody.
Is the boost from Blaze 4/3 or 1.5x?
red willow
1.5x
real prairie
ive given up with GC
stone trellis
Also, this is unrelated, but Dnite lived a +1 Meteor Beam from Glimmora and Whimsicott has lived Flash Cannon from Archaludon multiple times.
real prairie
Everything i did in testing hasn't paid off
as it stands im panicking AF for Lille
might cancel
red willow
I wish most good dragons this format weren't double weak to ice in general lol
stone trellis
Thank God I don't have the money or a reason to go to regionals.
next stump
might cancel
😦 when is Lille?
real prairie
😦 when is Lille?
End of October
next stump
you’ll be good, I feel like formats always take a little while to settle and once they do, it’s much easier to know what to plan for
it’s the wild west right now
wild cloud
My team rn is
Gholdengo
Pipplup
Fungoos
What can i add?
chrome knot
?
woven pelican
why. why the baby mons
bold geode
Plz tell me we're trolling
wild cloud
Didnt you just say you wanted to play reg j?
Did i?
red willow
I thought?
wild cloud
Oh
red willow
Didnt you say you wanted to play on cart instead of tourneys
forest arrow
Bro I had a game sealed and lost to scarf prim lol
wild cloud
Didnt you say you wanted to play on cart instead of tourneys
Yeah but i dont wanna use legendary
red willow
Uhm
wild cloud
Do u know good adds to my team?
left bobcat
The horse and the lizards
wild cloud
The horse and the lizards
?
red willow
Thats a decent mon but mainly calyrexes and box legends from this gen
wild cloud
Thats a decent mon but mainly calyrexes and box legends from this gen
I dont got cylarex😭
next stump
@wild cloud If you don’t want to use legendaries, then why did you say that you didn’t want to play Regulation H where they’re all banned?
wild cloud
<@1407887523237331028> If you don’t want to use legendaries, then why did you sa...
I can use 1 legendary
Not more
red willow
No you can use 2 in reg j promise
wild cloud
Or 2
left bobcat
Wait so reg g? I thought we were done with that
wild cloud
No you can use 2 in reg j promise
K
left bobcat
I’m so confused
wild cloud
What legends do i need to use then
red willow
They are asking for help with a reg j team
wild cloud
I’m so confused
You are not alone
left bobcat
Isn’t the current format 2 restricteds
red willow
Unfortunately do not think dhengo and empoleon make the cut
Amoonguss is p good tho just spam sleep if no eletric terrain
wild cloud
Why not?
left bobcat
Oh yeah empoleon SUCKKKS and Gholdengo is just a no
red willow
Its real good in reg h but there is too much good against it in higher power formats
Eg Koraidon CSR etc
wild cloud
Why is gholdengo just a no?
left bobcat
Power creep basically shadow rider and Koraidon obliterate it
red willow
It will just die
wild cloud
K
red willow
To a supereffective hit
red willow
Idk what play style do you like
left bobcat
To a supereffective hit
Specs Miraidon doesn’t need super effective to get the one hit KO
red willow
I thought you said piplup I am genuinely confused
left bobcat
So popplio and dhengo are out?
Ummm popplio?
wild cloud
Idk what play style do you like
U can choose what play style i will use
woven pelican
My team rn is
Gholdengo
Pipplup
Fungoos
What can i add?
I don't see a popplio here
red willow
Uhhhhhh okay
left bobcat
Yeah I’m so confused
wild cloud
*I don't see a popplio here*
Oops i typed pipplup instead of popplio
red willow
Primarina still not making the cut in reg j friend
left bobcat
That still doesn’t make a difference
wild cloud
My brain is cracking rn
left bobcat
Yeah primarina needs more set up which in a format like reg j is risky it works only when the power level is weaker
Aka reg h
wild cloud
K
stone trellis
WE STAY HUNGRY
wild cloud
Koraidon or miraidon?
left bobcat
miraidon
wild cloud
WE STAY HUNGRY
WE DEVOUR
stone trellis
PUT IN THE WORK, PUT IN THE HOURS
red willow
My current reg j team Ive been having some success with is Arceus, Chien Pao, Firepon, Urshifu R, CSR and Raging Bolt
wild cloud
Is Iron hands good for ranked
left bobcat
A team I built on the first day consists of sableye and Darkrai
Those 2 in itself is enough to make people quit
left bobcat
Kyogre and rillaboom are a necessity
Well Kyogre not so much since I have variants of the team
red willow
Ive been having success leading pao and Urshifu and clicking surging strikes on whatever will die to it lmao
stone trellis
I want to use Riolu because Prankster Coaching with Ice Rider seems genuinely hilarious to me.
left bobcat
Miraidon + Farigiraf:
Neh not really worried about miraidon or farig
It’s mostly just gravity and dark void which armor tail can’t block
stone trellis
Yeah, can Dark Void hit a Pokemon in Electric Terrain?
red willow
Would surging strikes ohko farig with the sword of ruin debuff?
wild cloud
My team rn is
Gholdengo
Pipplup
Foongus
Miraidon whay can i add
left bobcat
Yeah, can Dark Void hit a Pokemon in Electric Terrain?
You think I don’t have that covered?
stone trellis
Would surging strikes ohko farig with the sword of ruin debuff?
Most likely.
next stump
no, you’ll need tera and even then not if they’re bulky
stone trellis
You think I don’t have that covered?
Good for you.
left bobcat
Yep good for me indeed
stone trellis
I'm just pointing out holes in the typical Sableye-Darkrai kiddie slop teams.
left bobcat
I'm just pointing out holes in the typical Sableye-Darkrai kiddie slop teams.
Oh yeah well this is what I think about your yapping
Nah I’m kidding obviously every team is gonna have a weakness
red willow
I mean everything has weakneses
forest arrow
Oh yeah well this is what I think about your yapping
My favorite picture
stone trellis
Oh yeah well this is what I think about your yapping
Fire-Grass or Dark-Poison, call it.
red willow
No country for old incineroars
red willow
It would get parting puff
left bobcat
Special but still has fake out
red willow
Its just parting shot and pollen puff stapled together
polar canyon
I think it's a slow bulky mixed attacker
waxen dock
Oh yeah well this is what I think about your yapping
Wolfe signiture mon
polar canyon
That works best used as special
left bobcat
Has new ability that when it switches out it will intimidate the opponent while also giving it regenerator
polar canyon
Its just as one but the abilities are intimidate and regen
left bobcat
When it switches out
red willow
See ya later Retimitader
polar canyon
Does that stack with parting shot
stone trellis
Incoongus
Type: Fire-Grass
Abilities: 1. Intimigator
Base Stats
HP: 104
Attack: 100
Defense: 80
Sp. Atk: 83
Sp. Def: 85
Speed: 45
Total: 497
Notable moves: Fake Out, Parting Shot, Taunt, Will-o-Wisp, Pollen Puff, Knock Off, Flare Blitz
left bobcat
Does that stack with parting shot
Yes
Matter of fact let’s buff the intimidate part it should also drop special attack by 1
left bobcat
There now it’s balanced
red willow
OC of the disco pls no steal
stone trellis
I think it would be 90 both offenses
I just took their base stats and averaged them out.
polar canyon
It should get trick room for no reason
stone trellis
Bet.
left bobcat
Incoongus
Type: Fire-Grass
Abilities: 1. Intimigator
Base Stats
HP: 104
Attack:...
Hmmm let’s drop that speed to 25 and split the rest of the 20 points into its defense and special defense
stone trellis
Now you're speaking my language.
red willow
Incoonguss buff dropping
polar canyon
Drop special attack to 15
stone trellis
Wait, what if its BST was 530 instead of 497?
polar canyon
Split the rest into hp and attack
left bobcat
Wait, what if its BST was 530 instead of 497?
Hmmm 120 hp
polar canyon
515 sounds like a nice middle ground
stone trellis
Buffed Incoongus
Type: Fire-Grass
Abilities: 1. Intimigator
Base Stats
HP: 120
Attack: 110
Defense: 90
Sp. Atk: 80
Sp. Def: 90
Speed: 25
Total: 515
Notable moves: Fake Out, Parting Shot, Taunt, Will-o-Wisp, Pollen Puff, Knock Off, Flare Blitz
Did I cook?
waxen dock
Buffed Incoongus
Type: Fire-Grass
Abilities: 1. Intimigator
Base Stats
HP: 120
...
where is spore?
stone trellis
Add that too.
And Follow Me (not Rage Powder).
I have an even better idea.
Urshifu + Lando-T.
left bobcat
Damn I fucked uppppp
stone trellis
Urshdorus
Type: Water-Ground
Ability: Intimidating Fist
Base Stats
HP: 95
Attack: 127
Defense: 95
Sp. Atk: 89
Sp. Def: 70
Speed: 99
Total: 575
(I used base Lando's stats because it's faster, go cry about it)
left bobcat
Hmmmm
Hp 130
Atk 50
Def 110
Sp atk 90
Sp def 115
Speed 20
stone trellis
Is that for Incoonguss?
left bobcat
Yes
stone trellis
Why does it have 50 Attack when its two fusees have 115 and 85 Attack respectively?
left bobcat
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
stone trellis
Anyway, meet Calyrex Edge Rider!
Type: Ice-Ghost
Abilities: 1. As One (Combines Calyrex's Unnerve with either Glastrier's Chilling Neigh or Spectrier's Grim Neigh, raising whichever attacking stat is higher upon taking a KO)
Base Stats
HP: 100
Attack: 165
Defense: 135
Sp. Atk: 165
Sp. Def: 135
Speed: 100
Total: 760
Is this too balanced? Do I reduce its Speed to 50 and put those points into its bulk again?
left bobcat
Hmmmmmmmm no you gotta round it up and make it a bst of 800
Only then could it really be balanced
left bobcat
Bulk
stone trellis
Bet.
red willow
As one Protosynthesis and Chlorophyl
stone trellis
Flutter Mane + who?
left bobcat
Hmmmm jmmmmmmmm shuckle?
stone trellis
We need something with Chlorophyll.
left bobcat
Liligant?
stone trellis
My money's on Whimsicott, but sure.
red willow
Whimsi wouldnt add too much bst
stone trellis
It would remove, yes.
red willow
But hisuan lilli would wonk it out as a mixed mon
stone trellis
You know who wouldn't remove points?
stone trellis
Poison-Fairy with these stats:
HP: 67
Attack: 77
Defense: 89
Sp. Atk: 129
Sp. Def: 127
Speed: 107
Total: 596
Would Protosynthesis activate before or after Chlorophyll?
Because you can make it Modest Specs and have your SpA and Speed doubled by just having the sun on.
red willow
Jfc thats cracked lol
I think chlorophyl is static
So wouldnt proto just be the thing procing
polar canyon
are we still on incinmoonguss
stone trellis
No, this is Mega Fluttersaur.
chrome knot
lowkey mid asl
polar canyon
Yea
stone trellis
I once had an idea for a Pokemon whose ability basically As One'd with the ability of its partner.
So you could give a Fire-Steel type with 150 Attack Orichalcum Pulse and let it rip everyone in half.
red willow
Heatran sweeeeeeep bb
stone trellis
I forgot to mention what its own main ability was.
polar canyon
Ability that's just trace but for partners instead of opponents would be sick and would also make double intimidate far easier
stone trellis
Because it comes from a Pokemon who's a fusion between Solgaleo and Lunala, it gets both Full Metal Body and Shadow Shield.
polar canyon
Arceus
stone trellis
And somehow, it's only like, the 4th most cracked legendary I've made.
polar canyon
Arceus is the fusion of solgaleo and lunala kinda
The gold accents on them together form the golden ring around arceus torso
stone trellis
And somehow, it's only like, the 4th most cracked legendary I've made.
The other three kill everyone on neutral even without the help of another restricted.
stone trellis
The gold accents on them together form the golden ring around arceus torso
That sounds like a crackpot theory, but sure.
foggy lodge
Lmao this is Kingdra's limitless page
3 years doing almost nothing and wins a regional
next stump
wolfe the goat
crazy that Aria was actually kinda close to nailing wolfe’s team archtype
if they just had a rain setter over sneasler it’s almost the same team
stone trellis
Half of it seems the same.
bold geode
Lmao this is Kingdra's limitless page
Kingdra almost got top 64 in a Reg G event? Wtf
stone trellis
Proof that Ice Rider and Ogerpon-GOATflame can make anything work.
waxen dock
Ok
pulsar cloak
Kingdra almost got top 64 in a Reg G event? Wtf
It was the first one
waxen dock
Though if I had to guess, I'd say you at least have cracked the points threshold
i think the points ars by region so make sense
real prairie
playing some SD, revival blessing Donzogiri is fucking evil
craggy dagger
So? It's Kingdra
bold geode
i think the points ars by region so make sense
Yeah but even if it wasn't like
Top 16 to outside top 1024 iirc without a losing streak should be impossible
craggy dagger
bad name :(
bold geode
<:ZetaMEM_Bonk:1007315690841190461>
craggy dagger
near crag
Do the gc matches you didn’t play carry on to the next day?
dense latch
Do the gc matches you didn’t play carry on to the next day?
yes
dull ibex
It's all you do
solid frigate
13-12
dull ibex
You a bitch
You a bigger one
bold geode
You a bigger one
Nuh Uh
stone trellis
I kind of want to run Tera Steel Iron Head on Dragonite.
God, I wish E-Speed wasn't the GOAT.
solid frigate
15-12 woooo
solid frigate
I kind of want to run Tera Steel Iron Head on Dragonite.
i mean it can work
stone trellis
Which move do I replace though?
I have Scale Shot, Extreme Speed, Ice Spinner and Protect.
solid frigate
I have Scale Shot, Extreme Speed, Ice Spinner and Protect.
usually Ice Spinner but if you value a lot on terrain control then espeed
16-12 in GC
2 more games maybe 18-12???
stone trellis
Then you'll have tied with me.
I probably would've went 10-20 in Masters, but that's not important.
solid frigate
I probably would've went 10-20 in Masters, but that's not important.
i mean tbf i am piloting a team that i am not experienced with some of the mons
Gallade and Blood Moon Ursa on a rain team
And electabuzz
16-13
can't win them all anyway
bold geode
I have Scale Shot, Extreme Speed, Ice Spinner and Protect.
- Ice Spinner if you wanna do that
- You honestly want some utility on Scale Shot Dnite
Tailwind and/or Haze on Scale Shot Dnite is kind of cracked
scenic oriole
Rank up game, against a groudon team which I hate playing against.
3hp and a dream
spark delta
hey for a drizzle pelipper for offensive which is better modest or timid
bold geode
Either or really depending on how fast you wanna go, though I think Timid might be a bit better? Your choice
solid frigate
Also depend on the items
solid frigate
Ummm you usually run Sash,Rocky Helmet or Covert cloak for Pelipper
For Sash you run 4 HP,252 SpA,252 Speed in Timid Nature
as for the other two they run Bulk,Which depends on what do you want to live.
Overall Pelipper usually have Weather Ball,Hurricane,Tailwind,Protect/Wide Guard
spark delta
what about u-turn or ice beam
solid frigate
Pelipper doesn’t need them
You have partners who use it better
Tip:Weather Ball Changes type depend on the Weather in the board
spark delta
if you use tailwind the answer is obviously timid right
solid frigate
if you use tailwind the answer is obviously timid right
Honestly not,again it depends on if it’s Sash (100% Timid) or The other two item I said (which usually has bulk and different Nature to tank better stuff)
spark delta
covert cloak whats that never heard of it in sword shield
solid frigate
It’s a Scarlet Violet Item
Which blocks Secondary effects
For example
Speed drops from Electroweb and Icy Wind
Flinches from Fake out and Dark Pulse
spark delta
thats cool
solid frigate
Basically the item that stops Incineroar’s Bullshit lmao
And Clear Amulet but that’s for intimidate
spark delta
dangit pelipper doesnt get weather ball in sword shield apparantly
i can subsitute it with hydro pump or scald which do you think might be a good susbsitite
surf there is also there
solid frigate
Wait
SWSH?
Why tho
spark delta
apparantly no egg move pokemon can teach pelipper weather ball
solid frigate
I think it gets Weather ball in SV iirc
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.4
solid frigate
Oh nvm
solid frigate
Idk cuz I haven’t touched SWSH
cyan smelt
who tf runs power gem gholdengo
spark delta
maybe in the meantime until i get access to hammerlocke i can maybe put hydro pump or scald
and then i can replace it with weather ball when i get to hammerlocke
solid frigate
who tf runs power gem gholdengo
Actually its viable against Incineroar
But 100% not the best moves for Dengo
https://x.com/TrickedRoom/status/1964158190578176024
@shadow wind
X
forest arrow
who tf runs power gem gholdengo
Usually Power Gem, Thunderbolt, Trick just a mix of the 3 on choice sets
shadow wind
https://x.com/TrickedRoom/status/1964158190578176024
<@638505796476469249>
That's not very nice
solid frigate
That's not very nice
i'm more suprised of Groudon lived a Helping Hand dgleam quite comfortably
shadow wind
Whatchu mean he's awesome
solid frigate
now tera ice ninetales
thats normal lol
cyan smelt
my team's not working out, just lost to fucking leech seed meganium
next to tailwind murkrow
boutta quit honestly
solid frigate
what the heck is the team anyway
rigid crane
Does anyone have a good recommended team for ranked Singles? I'm not sure if I should use the same one I used last month or go with a new one
solid frigate
Does anyone have a good recommended team for ranked Singles? I'm not sure if I s...
you can look at anything about Battle stadium singles in Munchstats since this chat is primarily doubles
rigid crane
what is Munchstats?
solid frigate
basically a website that looks at data for all pokemon's viable stuff
usage,movesets,EVs(Not that important in singles cuz they run max max min 90% of the time),Tera,Items
cyan smelt
i just lost to fucking crawdaunt
solid frigate
i just lost to fucking crawdaunt
what the fuck is your team anyway
cyan smelt
no it's bad
solid frigate
no it's bad
idc if its bad or good anyway
If you wanna improve just try to fix the team
And try to ask people for help
cyan smelt
is showdown down for anyone else
you know what fuck building my own teams i'm just gonna use a rental
this team doesn't deal well with psyspam or tr
cyan smelt
it's down for me
solid frigate
its not down for me
cyan smelt
why can i not get on
ionic dagger
Does anyone have a good recommended team for ranked Singles? I'm not sure if I s...
JIRACHI IRON HEAD FLINCH
solid frigate
JIRACHI IRON HEAD FLINCH
ionic dagger
But it's funny...
Anyways, this is my first attempt at a sun tailroom team. Any suggestions?
solid frigate
That’s alright
cyan smelt
i can't get on showdown otherwise i'd share my dogshit team
foggy lodge
https://pokepast.es/ea5b4a13a451852e
Looks bad ngl
solid frigate
https://pokepast.es/ea5b4a13a451852e
EVs have to fix a little bit,but otherwise the move sets are fine
foggy lodge
Why is torkoal specs body press
ionic dagger
Yeah, I was kinda just messing around with a lot of them.
ionic dagger
Why is torkoal specs body press
IDK, he's just there for eruption
solid frigate
Replace it with Solar Beam
At least you can hit water types with it(even tho there’s like 3-4 of them without counting Tera)
ionic dagger
What are some good EV spreads?
foggy lodge
Lilligant and Whimsicott could be totally compressed in just Jumpluff
ionic dagger
But I like whimsicott 🙁
solid frigate
Tbh for a first at temp on a Sun tailroom
They got the spirit at least
But yeah Jumpluff works better
It basically does both of the stuff
Sleep Powder from Lilligant and Tailwind from Whims
cyan smelt
is jumpluff better than whimsicott on sun
solid frigate
is jumpluff better than whimsicott on sun
It can Sleep Powder and Do Whimsicott stuff without the Prankster Counterplay
foggy lodge
is jumpluff better than whimsicott on sun
Usually
Except if you really want tge fairy typing
ionic dagger
Okay, but they have 2 different roles for me. Liligant is meant to do damage and just happens to be able to use sleep powder. Also, prankster sunny day is nice against rain teams
solid frigate
Jumpluff does both
cyan smelt
still can't get on showdown
solid frigate
And It’s usually fast enough for TW cuz there isn’t that much TW Setter that are Fast
foggy lodge
Tailroom was just already cracked by the Charizard Jumpluff team
solid frigate
Also it can do sleep Powder and Encore stuff without worried about Prioity Block
If you really want to run Encore
ionic dagger
I was not respecting jumpluff at all. Thanks
ionic dagger
Tailroom was just already cracked by the Charizard Jumpluff team
Yeah, charizard wouldn't be bad as the last slot either.
solid frigate
Greninja spotted
solid frigate
I mean I am also using Greninja but on specs cuz I don’t really need Archaludon to do solo carrying
cyan smelt
i don't know how to fix the psyspam matchup, particularly fast psyspam with sneasler but also slow psyspam with tr
solid frigate
but it struggles with tr and psyspam
Also I don’t think this team has Negative MU against TR
Psyspam kinda but like it’s not like impossible mu
cyan smelt
fast psyspam is really hard particularly if indeedee is scarfed
solid frigate
Also you need Blizzard A9 in this format
cyan smelt
ok i will replace icy wind
solid frigate
Some EVs have to be fixed but this is dependent on what do you want to tank in Aurora Veil or not in Aurora Veil
cyan smelt
maybe i should take notes from my matches and see what i want to survive
also is sash or light clay a9 better
solid frigate
Or you can just call it from the beginning to ensure your expectations on what your game plan are
solid frigate
also is sash or light clay a9 better
In this team,Sash
solid frigate
ghost tera still?
Ice for Blizzard Damage
Fire for Defensive
But Ghost is fine
Honestly if it wasn’t my piloting Problem I might get like 18-12
cyan smelt
i think i'm gonna run tera fairy on garchomp for the dnite mu
solid frigate
I seen more fairy Tera in Dragon types anyway so that’s fine
cyan smelt
if i replace volc idk who to replace with, maybe rilla or incin
solid frigate
I mean there is no harm on testing it
solid frigate
Incin is usually better
Just calc to live a CC from Sneasler
cyan smelt
adamant?
bold geode
If you live Adamant you live Jolly
cyan smelt
i'll start with the one from nerd of now, physically defensive rocky helmet
actually is goggles better on incin
foggy lodge
If you live Adamant you live Jolly
Get critted loser
cyan smelt
maybe i go rocky helmet
ok yeah with incin i was able to beat a psyspam team
the real test is p2 teams
bold geode
Get critted loser
That's just luck
bold geode
maybe i go rocky helmet
Impish Assault Vest trust
fair holly
Hi
Can anyone tell me which ultra beasts are the best/relevant in ranked singles and doubles?
solid frigate
anything besides the last two (Guzzlord and bacephelon) and debatably xuritree
cyan smelt
I remember using shitty stall strats with guzzlord in swsh, guard split stockpile, did not like zacian
In hindsight it's bad that both shuckle and guzzlord were weak to zacian
bold geode
nvm it's fake out knock off blitz and u-turn
That
As for tera probably Grass, though Bug/Ghost can work
rigid crane
Im so close, yet so far lol
cyan smelt
Yeah grass is good, anti amoonguss and primarina
cyan smelt
i love water shuriken btw
boreal abyss
hi guys do you have a singles team
ionic dagger
hi guys do you have a singles team
JIRACHI IRON HEAD FLINCH
waxen dock
Thats my gc team
ionic dagger
You laugh, but choice scarf jirachi has a higher than not chance of making your opponent flinch.
woven pelican
probably not, most people here play doubles
Though some play both
stone trellis
Rank up game, against a groudon team which I hate playing against.
3hp and a d...
Is that AV?
stone trellis
Tailwind and/or Haze on Scale Shot Dnite is kind of cracked
Yeah, maybe a second Tailwind setter wouldn't be so bad.
stone trellis
Thats my gc team
I'm like, 90% sure we've fought.
What was the Special Attack on the Glimmora?
bold geode
Anyways chat
Wanna see the absolute shit I cooked for this GC? Actually do we wanna guess first lol
stone trellis
Is it a sand team?
bold geode
Nah
Actually we do it like last time
I give ya the 6
You gotta figure out the OTS lol
stone trellis
Anyways
26-19 with Palafin
I JUST WANNA BE PART OF YOUR SYMPHONYYYY
bold geode
https://pokepast.es/adc63427b0bf56a5
Here's the 6 mons, start guessing
stone trellis
Incineroar @ Choice Band
Ability: Blaze
Tera Type: Fire
- Flare Blitz
- Knock Off
- U-turn
- No idea
Palafin @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Zero To Hero
Tera Type: Grass
- Jet Punch
- Drain Punch
- Wave Crash
- U-turn
Amoonguss @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Effect Spore
Tera Type: Dark
- Sludge Bomb
- Spore
- Rage Powder
- Protect
I do NOT know about the rest.
Also, nightmare FWG.
stone trellis
<:typhlosinscared:1295273788493271040>
Did I get too much right or did I cook an abomination that's worse than yours?
stone trellis
So the items weren't right?
bold geode
Literally you can guess until the whole OTS is filled out
Nope
Honestly I'll be amazed if you can guess the Palafin item
Hasn't seen use in years
stone trellis
Palafin also has Flip Turn instead of U-turn and it's most likely holding the Eject Button or Eject Pack.
stone trellis
Eject Button would be my guess, since Eject Pack has won an international on Torkoal last season.
bold geode
Actually I'll give it to you, almost had it
Eject Pack
waxen dock
I'm like, 90% sure we've fought.
Whats your ig name?
stone trellis
Paul.
bold geode
Also no on the move
stone trellis
Close Combat?
bold geode
Yup
stone trellis
And Protect.
bold geode
Yup
Also like if you notice
What does the 6 look really weak to
Incineroar
So I can bait out Incineroar leads and get Palafin a free switch out into hero form
stone trellis
I did the same thing with Torkoal so I can bring in an unintimidated Garchomp turn 1.
bold geode
Basically lets Palafin have to manually switch out way less
waxen dock
What time did we fight?
bold geode
Which can be very impactful as that's one major flaw to Palafin
waxen dock
In utc cuz yhey say battlrs time in utc
stone trellis
I did the same thing with Torkoal so I can bring in an unintimidated Garchomp tu...
Garchomp when it can click EQ without being at -1:
waxen dock
Also what was your team?
bold geode
But Eject Pack hasn't seen use on Palafin in years
Like literally it was used once in Reg C and that was it
And it legitimately baffles me that no one trying Palafin in H even touched the set, cuz it's legitimately it's best item
Anyways
https://pokepast.es/84c789338fe62eda
Still got some guessing if we wanna keep playing
stone trellis
Also what was your team?
Torkoal, Whimsicott, Hisuian Typhlosion, Garchomp, Dnite and Kingambit.
waxen dock
So i didnt
stone trellis
Does Incineroar have Taunt or Will-o-Wisp?
waxen dock
Maybe it was someone with the same team
bold geode
Nope
stone trellis
Maybe it was someone with the same team
Yeah, that team was the exact same.
bold geode
There's a move missing from Incineroar that should be very obvious
bold geode
There we go
Actually you guessed the item so I'll go ahead and give the OTS
Here we go
stone trellis
I'm him.
waxen dock
Yeah, that team was the exact same.
Did you win?
bold geode
So fun fact: unless it teras or has a Defense boost, Tera Stellar Close Combat one shots Kingambit while Palafin is in baby form
stone trellis
Did you win?
Three Pokemon that are extremely weak to Garchomp and one which loses its big advantage after a single E-Speed.
Had they brought DozoGiri, I would've lost.
waxen dock
Three Pokemon that are extremely weak to Garchomp and one which loses its big ad...
So you won?
bold geode
The two most annoying things for this team was like
I had to manage Incineroar since it is strong against my team
But also like
stone trellis
Nah, I won.
waxen dock
My team is very weak to kingambit and dnite
bold geode
My one matchup that is like basically an auto loss
Annihilape
waxen dock
Thats why it has very bad mu against mdb balance
stone trellis
My team is very weak to kingambit and dnite
Where can I see my matches, by the way?
bold geode
I can beat some Annihilape but like
Mausape or Screens Bulk Up Ape or Mausape with screens
Very ass matchup
Other than that though, felt like I could beat a lot of MUs
Hell the Zard Sun MU felt pretty free 
stone trellis
Hero Form Palafin MIGHT be able to OHKO Garchomp without the sun.
bold geode
Nah
stone trellis
Yeah, the thing's not dying at all.
bold geode
Not without like
Maybe item boost or Tera boost or maybe it'd even need both
waxen dock
Where can I see my matches, by the way?
Pokemon Home
bold geode
Palafin is definitely not a top meta threat, but it fits into defensive play styles very big, which is how I love to play
And actually like
AV Incin
Killer
If my Incin teras, it still lives a +1 Tera Dark Black Glasses Kowtow
waxen dock
But only the player names not their teams
stone trellis
Shit.
scenic oriole
Is that AV?
Specs miradon- sash lando for some reason lol
stone trellis
Specs miradon- sash lando for some reason lol
Sash was most likely there to live Glacial Lance.
stone trellis
116+ SpA Sheer Force Landorus Earth Power vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Miraidon: 162-192 (92 - 109%) -- 50% chance to OHKO
That was a 50/50 scenario.
magic sierra
it's still very much in progress, not training them yet, but I want something for singles without spamming legends too much.
Alolan Ninetales(I want to use this since I love it)
Clodsire
Corviknight
Hisui Arcanine
Gyarados
I'm not sure what to use for the 6th slot other than something like rillaboom. Any recommendations for the singles team in general?
livid tree
Hello Everyone, My choice specs kyogre in rain with tera type waterdid water spout on a tera fire koraidon and incineroar for like 15% of their health. This seems soo awkward and there wre no debuffs on kyogre
magic sierra
Hello Everyone, My choice specs kyogre in rain with tera type waterdid water spo...
if low hp, rip damage