competitive_discussion

[short quiver]

buying the bundle with mario kart world and preordering legends za

[rustic mountain]

nice

[molten oasis]

im going to my state's comic con next month so

[short quiver]

i will never financially recover

especially since i built a pc just a couple months ago 💀

after wooloo when would my next normal encounter even be 😭

im trying to think

[molten oasis]

zigzagoon

[short quiver]

both route 1 and 2

and then bunnelby in the wild area

and then i think im cooked until the yellow grass in turfield

omg buneary im so sorry queen

the answer is yes

ill be the 8 ball for you rq

dyou think nintendo will brick my switch 2 if they detect that i put stickers on it 😱

[woven pelican]

i think they'd just. kill you

[short quiver]

worth it to put my botw stickers from gamestop on my switch 2

[cosmic patio]

thx just wondering if I need to get another one and how

[gentle crag]

shiniesupernova has given 1 Gen Rep to eriksp

[short quiver]

2 options

replay the game or find someone who already has

[versed river]

yeah, luckily you can play the first dlc rather early on though

MUCH better than needing another raging bolt or wtv

[short quiver]

also lucky for them i have a spare ogerpon 🙃

[versed river]

oh lmao

[short quiver]

:3

[versed river]

:3

[short quiver]

@cosmic patio i have a spare ogerpon if youd like

[cosmic patio]

really?

[short quiver]

mhm

[cosmic patio]

ur a goat

you got a code

[short quiver]

gimme a sec to switch to scarlet im on shield rn

[cosmic patio]

alright

[short quiver]

ermmmm

where is my second ogerpon 😭

[cosmic patio]

😭

[short quiver]

ig i can trade you mine and just get another one

[cosmic patio]

nah you dont have to

its your og one bro

[short quiver]

i will tell you she is named

ik some people are sticklers about that

[cosmic patio]

i dont really care about that

[stone trellis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2426952555-v7gxo9okxd1nvv6ilhql3dqb13i9cncpw

[brave hazel]

Making an acrobatics flying Terra build for my shiny roaring moon

I know not holding an item increases damage with acrobatics, but according to websites, using booster energy item gets used up & then it’s classified as no item. Is this true ?

[chrome knot]

yes

[stone trellis]

It is.

And Tera Flying Acrobatics is a pretty common build for Roaring Moon.

[brave hazel]

Gonna do atk 220/def 36/ spe 252

or do you think just 252 in attack & speed & the rest in def

[stone trellis]

No.

[brave hazel]

Singles mind you

[stone trellis]

Roaring Moon needs to have maximum Speed.

[brave hazel]

So max speed & attack then

remainder in def

[stone trellis]

Again, no.

252 Attack gives it an Attack boost.

[brave hazel]

Even with jolly nature ?

[stone trellis]

Yes.

[brave hazel]

What EV spread then

[stone trellis]

Just go 36 HP / 220 Atk / 252 Spe.

[brave hazel]

Okay, how many EV points does a single item give again

so I can do the maths

[stone trellis]

What item?

[chrome knot]

10

[stone trellis]

Oh, vitamins?

[chrome knot]

feathers do 1

[stone trellis]

Yeah, you get 10 from vitamins and mochi and 1 from feathers.

[brave hazel]

So I need a mixture of feathers & vitamins yeah ?

my maths is so bad, this is gonna hurt my brain working this out

[chrome knot]

3 hp + 6 hp feathers
22 atk vitamins
26 spe vitamins

[brave hazel]

This is the exact amount ?

kudos for working that out in your head instantly

[chrome knot]

yes

you’re just adding by 10s & 1s 😭

[stone trellis]

Smartest singles player:

[brave hazel]

I have ADHD so my brain don’t focus on the easy things, I see numbers & my brain confuses the maths no matter how easy it is,

I’m smart with other things, have a bachelors in fitness for example & a registered dietitian, but numbers & maths just ain’t it for me. Don’t know my x tables or anything

[stone trellis]

Kinda reminds me of my mom.

I don't think my mom has ADHD, her problem was that all her math teachers were shit.

[brave hazel]

I didn’t really goto school either, dropped out in year 8 to pursue a fitness career

but I remember in maths when I was in school, my teacher used to let me do other things instead of study maths because my Brain just couldn’t draw numbers together

[chrome knot]

that’s fire go you

[brave hazel]

Thank you, but I’m confused. Paul said 36hp , so if each feather is 1 EV, you said 6 feathers, so that’s 6 EVS, wouldn’t I need 3 hp vitamins & 6 feathers ?

[gentle crag]

winters_626 has given 1 Gen Rep to setsumizi

[chrome knot]

yeah i forgor to clarify that the 3 was 3 hp vitamins

[brave hazel]

Got it, thank you

Berry EV reducers, how much do they reduce by ?

[chrome knot]

uhhh im not too sure actually lmao

[brave hazel]

That’s okay, I only used 14 attack vitamins anyways so I’ll just do the speed & the HP & then finish of the attack. idk why I was gonna clear it

[stone trellis]

It should be 10.

[brave hazel]

Sorry for all the questions, I’m a really good singles player, I’m going into doubles once champions drop. For now I’m just learning by paying attention to convos here & shiny farming pokes to get them ready for champions

[stone trellis]

My luck is beyond words, man.
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2426996828

[brave hazel]

@stone trellis 322 speed & 321 attack. Complete nailed the EVS

Thank you

[brave hazel]

Tryna teach roaring moon knock off, I have the mirror herb & my rillaboom knows the move. But it’s not passing on

[next stump]

It needs to be a pokemon that learns Knock Off through level up I think

wait Rilla apparently does

[chrome knot]

knock off isnt an egg move for roaring moon

mirror herb only passes egg moves not any move

[silk stream]

What's the current format?

[bold geode]

Emmmmmmaaaaaa

[bold geode]

Regulation I which is a double restricted format but pretty soon it'll be Reg J which is basically the same thing but with mythicals
Unless you're playing in irl events or the GC that's coming up in which case that's Regulation H which bans all legendaries and paradoxes

[silk stream]

Way better than Google. Thank you very much

[gentle crag]

mas.n has given 1 Gen Rep to dollarmonke

[brave hazel]

It’s fine I got the TM.

I didn’t take into account that booster energy does not get used up if sun is active. There for acrobatics isn’t as strong.

Ability goes of the sun with out using the item.

there for keeping the damn item

[chrome knot]

whaaaat

[brave hazel]

Prankster is so bad to use this meta, plagued with dark type mythicals.

[bold geode]

Hello

[chrome knot]

[bold geode]

What doing

[chrome knot]

laying in bed

[stone trellis]

This just makes the Fairy types even better.

[brave hazel]

What’s a real tanky fairy type

Sylv I guess

[shadow wind]

That’s your definition of “real tanky”?

65 defense 🥀

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 700: Sylveon

Type

Fairy

Abilities

Cute Charm, Pixilate (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

95/65/65/110/130/60

Total

525

Sableye version 4.28.2

[chrome knot]

itsss right behind me isnt she

[shadow wind]

That thing probably dies to a Koraidon lorb cc in the sun

[chrome knot]

good thing hes banned!

[stone trellis]

Magearna.

Especially with the right support.

Never go Life Orb, +1 Helping Hand Fleur Cannon kills everything on neutral without it.

[left bobcat]

DECORATE

or maybe final gambit??????

[polar canyon]

I got tired of seeing magearna teams with smeargle and ape

It's not even hard to counter it's just boring to fight

Because it's repetitive

[stone trellis]

I bring a certain Magearna + Farig and Jungle Bros vibe to the meta that other Magearna players don't like.

[polar canyon]

Some powerful common archetypes can still not be repetitive to fight because it feels different depending on the player's playstyle

Not magearna teams

90% of the time it's the exact same thing

I'll rather fight closed team sheet arceus teams

[nocturne holly]

We take what we can get in this economy 🥀💔

[brave hazel]

I was on like a 19 win streak in singles & come up against a neutralising gas galarian weezing. Thing completely shut down all my ability’s & he kept switching it in & out. Definitely gonna try to get one of these.

[next stump]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2427159498-2t0i8jpqnk3y6xavkf6sogukiuexxvxpw

played against rank 10 or so, running weezing/slaking/dozo/giri

[dull ibex]

im excited to use mega khan

[next stump]

has anyone done the math on dire claw RNG with poison touch

[dense latch]

i'm pretty sure they don't affect each other but are rather independent effects
i did this once while labbing so i imagine it's just the 50% chance of dire claw getting a status and then poison touch rolls

dire claw rng + poison touch would be a 65% chance of getting a status

[near crag]

What do you think about this team https://pokepast.es/31a9781028739778 ? Considering bringing something like this for the gc

[dense latch]

give torkoal a different item

with life orb you're just weakening your own eruption

charcoal works fine

[near crag]

Fixed it, also some abilities were wrong

[dense latch]

i don't get the hydreigon

[bold geode]

The team honestly just looks all over the place

[near crag]

Why so?

[bold geode]

Looks like you're trying to do Hard TR but in a way you're also not doing it and like
Idt the pieces all really fit together properly

[near crag]

I'm prob just gonna use tr with torkoal. It's moreso a secondary option

[bold geode]

Like I get it's for a GC meaning you can pull a bit of a surprise factor but like
Even those teams mesh together in some way

If you're trying to have Torkoal in TR as a secondary option you might as well just like
Use Zard Sun or something

[foggy lodge]

Its like psyspam but only one mon benefits from the TR

[bold geode]

Like you're really only gonna use Torkoal rn in two ways

1. For support/a lil offense on Sun teams
2. As a sweeper for Hard TR

[short quiver]

a shame kantotales has no competitive viability

idk why🤷‍♂️

[foggy lodge]

No eruption

[short quiver]

thats it?

thats why no one uses kanto tales

are you serious rn 😭

[foggy lodge]

Its also that the mon has terrible stats lol

[short quiver]

its significantly faster than torkoal for faster paced teams

[foggy lodge]

The problem is that

Torkoal is just better even for that

Because eject pack Torkoal makes you pivot around weather and being slow means you have a slow pivot for something to not take damage + also a mon that works against TR teams

https://pokepast.es/66939c865af42468

[short quiver]

so if i use kantotales im just trolling is what your saying

[foggy lodge]

Yes

[short quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/fox-let-me-in-clawing-at-door-knocking-at-door-waiting-at-door-gif-10636413725109957056

[short quiver]

ninetales begging for viability;

[foggy lodge]

https://pokepast.es/9e475330ee1362b9 this team also uses Torkoal more as an attacker rather than an enabler because it has the TR mode

[foggy lodge]

The alolan one is good tho

[short quiver]

i do not care about “snow”

[foggy lodge]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[short quiver]

i like alolan ninetales dont get me wrong i just like kanto tales so much better

i worked so hard for my shiny firefox

[fringe dagger]

i ran torkoal with H-lilligant so it has an option outside trick room

[short quiver]

but my shiny drought ninetales 😔

[molten oasis]

Hm

I think I’m suffering on ladder due to playing a team with like 0 bulk

[short quiver]

the best defense is a good offense twin

[molten oasis]

Meh

Don’t call me twin

[short quiver]

i call everyone twin

[polar canyon]

Feels like the only thing base ninetales has going for it is a fast eject pack overheat

Fast ish

[short quiver]

😃

[short quiver]

hey anyone know how long i have to prep a team for the global challenge

[forest arrow]

About 2 weeks

[short quiver]

shit

okay

is it the weekend

i wanna take the days off work

[stone trellis]

It is.

[short quiver]

bet

[wooden steeple]

what do we think

[deft crescent]

are there team sheets in the grand challenge?

if so how do u get them

[wooden steeple]

theres none

[dense latch]

where's your damage coming from

[wooden steeple]

arch, rilla, maus

[dense latch]

espathra needs a lot of turns to set up some decent damage and so does arch which has very little attack investment

rilla is fine but your highest attacking move is base 55

why not av on arch as well

[wooden steeple]

perish needs protect

[dense latch]

i don't see perish being that good on this team

[wooden steeple]

archs body press does crazy damage and I can get it to +6 immediately

it is trust

[short quiver]

do you sign up for the global challenge or do you open your game?

[next stump]

you register for it in the game

[short quiver]

when do i have to register by cuz i dont have a team yet 😭

[next stump]

september 4th at like 7:00PM EST

something like that

[short quiver]

and then the event is the weekend after that right

[solid frigate]

he even got the high roll-

[next stump]

it starts right when the locking period ends

so thursday 7PM

[molten oasis]

How do you win in this format? I can’t figure anything out

[short quiver]

be completely insane and play random bullshit go like i do

(kidding i dont win shit)

[short quiver]

so id wanna take the 5th and 6th off

got it

[next stump]

sure if you would like to

[short quiver]

i just gotta figure my team out

https://tenor.com/view/panic-anime-shookt-shocked-gif-10583115

[deft crescent]

every pokemon player ever ^

[short quiver]

i also wanna try to go to toronto regionals in… january?

imagine me at worlds 2026 (not gonna happen but i can dream)

[wooden steeple]

lol was that predicted?

[foggy lodge]

No LMAO

[short quiver]

ruination in a comp battle is funny

[wooden steeple]

I mean by them

[foggy lodge]

I was just scared of TR protect into helping hand water spout

So I doubled into Farig

[solid frigate]

when you overthink too much

[foggy lodge]

And discovered they were ally switch

[wooden steeple]

ally switch is one of those moves you only run in OTS and only to never click it but make the opponent overthink "what if they do"

[foggy lodge]

Like protect Incin

[solid frigate]

Yeah cuz Kyogre is relatively Safe click Hydro Pump

[foggy lodge]

Or tera ghost on the grimmsnarl or venusaur or those stuff lmao

[wooden steeple]

protect incin is for perish trap teams and gets clicked p often tbh

[wooden steeple]

yea ghost grimm is one lol

[foggy lodge]

Yeah but it also gets those mindgames of

Do they protect or tera ghost hmmm

[left bobcat]

YES THE MIND GAMES

MUAHAHAHAHAHA

[short quiver]

we love mind games

[next stump]

you should definitely go if you can, regionals are awesome

[short quiver]

id go to milawaukee since im a state over but yeah

i wont have a team ready in time and also i wont be able to drive there

[next stump]

illinois gang?

[short quiver]

michigan

[deft crescent]

using annihilape as semi-support is unconvential, isn't it

[short quiver]

i mean

scarf final gambit is very common

[deft crescent]

no I mean taunt helping hand

[short quiver]

i see that as “supporting” the rest of your team

[short quiver]

why use annihilape then

[deft crescent]

idfk

[short quiver]

there are much bulkier mons you cna use for that

[deft crescent]

I'm trying something

[short quiver]

aye man im using meowscarada in reg i imma let you cook

im just asking for your logic

[deft crescent]

also this is a reg H team for the upcoming tourney

[short quiver]

ik

i still wanna use meowscarada though

but i also wanna use hisuian typhlosion

i wanna boom boom stuff in the sun

[deft crescent]

yeah ok so annihilape sucks at support, who knew???

[short quiver]

me

thats why i never tried it 😭

i love unconventional stuff but thats too far

id do psyspam+sun eruption but idk

delphox meowscarada and typhlosion on the same team might collide mechanically

[deft crescent]

ayo u gonna enter the tourney?

[short quiver]

yeah

im joining the global challenge

im also planning to attend a regional

maybe ill just go to naic in july

[next stump]

if you would like, I can send you a link for midwestern U.S. VGC. It includes information about all the local tournaments held here

there's quite a few in michigan

[short quiver]

south peninsula specifically

illinois is my neighbor

[next stump]

oh nice, I'm north of Chicago so we're probably pretty close

I'll find some store locations and you can see if they're nearby

[short quiver]

😃

i would really like to get into the actual competitive scene instead of just ingame ladder yk?

[next stump]

These are the locations of their typical local tournaments

[short quiver]

i might just be cooked

[next stump]

RIP nothing close?

[short quiver]

no😔

[next stump]

thats tough

but if you enjoy the GC, definitely go to an IRL tourney if you can

[short quiver]

well im working on getting my license so

thats a very hindering detail

its the only thing stopping me from going to milwaukee in october

[jade dust]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regj-2427367652

Didn’t click trick room once but this team is pretty strong

Even outside of trick room

[chrome knot]

@bold geode

i pway gc1

[bold geode]

Oooooooooo
Whatchu runnin

[chrome knot]

dm

[left bobcat]

Awww man I want to know as well

[next stump]

oops forgot I can't link discords here

@short quiver I DM'd you the michigan discord

[short quiver]

😃

hey chat what do the arceus plates do when held by other pokemon

[craggy dagger]

show me too

[next stump]

pretty sure they're the same as items like mystic water

small damage boost

[short quiver]

😃

[wild depot]

Sorry about filters, appreciate you

[next stump]

all good 😄

[short quiver]

im working on my other pokemon games so i can 100% the hisuian dex fast for arceus darkrai and shaymin

cant i get manaphy too

[wild depot]

:(

[bold geode]

Got em

[foggy lodge]

20% boost

The benefit of the plates existing is that you actually can repeat item in the same team lol

Almost never happens but like you can run splash plate Kyogre with mystic water urshifu

[short quiver]

so like the electric plate (idk its name) on regieleki 😃

[dense latch]

yea

but if you're planning on using regieleki you're better off with a focus sash or else it's not living much if anything

[foggy lodge]

Mhm

It needs the sash like oxygen

[short quiver]

yeah its a glass cannon

almost literally

[foggy lodge]

If you want to cook to catch people off guard maybe go cloak ig

[short quiver]

its not restricted right 😃

im ngl regieleki and regidrago should be restricted

[dense latch]

no

[dense latch]

they're not that strong

[foggy lodge]

They only have like 100 spa lol

Terapagos has 90!!

[dense latch]

regieleki got nerfed by the transistor ability and the loss of dynamax

[short quiver]

pov your name is regieleki and you ignore a game defining mechanic called trick room very easily

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 1024: Terapagos

Type

Normal

Abilities

Tera Shift

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

90/65/85/65/85/60

Total

450

Other Formes

Terapagos-Terastal, Terapagos-Stellar

Sableye version 4.28.2

[foggy lodge]

Wait this is the baby one

[dense latch]

regidrago was already so bad it didnt get nerfed next to regieleki

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 1024: Terapagos-Terastal

Type

Normal

Abilities

Tera Shell

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

95/95/110/105/110/85

Total

600

Base Species

Terapagos

Sableye version 4.28.2

[foggy lodge]

105💔

[dense latch]

you need to get it to +6 to get it to ignore tr

by then your regieleki is already dead

[foggy lodge]

I still love pagos

[short quiver]

i could use regieleki as like a speed control damage dealer

electroweb thundercage

[foggy lodge]

That's mostly what it does in VGC now

[dense latch]

also impossible to do with pokemon at level 50 i believe

[foggy lodge]

Eweb thunderbolt volt switch protect

Imagine tclap eleki

[dense latch]

tbf it outspeeds everything already

[foggy lodge]

Yeah

[short quiver]

id cry

[dense latch]

well anything that isn't scarf or proto boosted

[short quiver]

thats also true

[foggy lodge]

What's the benchmark to outspeed timid eleki

I remember when I discovered that Eleki outspeeds scarf shifu

[dense latch]

it hits 277 from what i remember

[foggy lodge]

And in the bad way

[dense latch]

i used eleki a ton in reg g

funny how its usage was negligible throughout two seasons except for their respective worlds

[foggy lodge]

Uhhh

Scarf miraidon outspeeds eleki!!

[foggy lodge]

True lmao

I remember when I said that eleki has an actual use in early reg G and they told me it wasn't good

And it got top 8 at worlds

[dense latch]

lmao

[foggy lodge]

I wish I played a lot of teams in reg G that was such a fun format

[dense latch]

i got tired of playing arubega every other game

early reg g 2.0 was fun

i missed early reg g 1 tho

only saw worlds that year

[foggy lodge]

I think it also was the format where it was the easiest to teambuild for me

Reg I really felt like everything was already made

[solid frigate]

at least bro ain't hitting like Lugia

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 876: Indeedee

Types

Psychic/Normal

Abilities

Inner Focus, Synchronize, Psychic Surge (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

60/65/55/105/95/95

Total

475

Other Formes

Indeedee-F

Sableye version 4.28.2

Pokémon No. 149: Dragonite

Types

Dragon/Flying

Abilities

Inner Focus, Multiscale (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

91/134/95/100/100/80

Total

600

Sableye version 4.28.2

Move: Thunder Cage

Prevents the target from switching for four or five turns (seven turns if the user is holding Grip Claw). Causes damage to the target equal to 1/8 of its maximum HP (1/6 if the user is holding Binding Band), rounded down, at the end of each turn during effect. The target can still switch out if it is holding Shed Shell or uses Baton Pass, Flip Turn, Parting Shot, Shed Tail, Teleport, U-turn, or Volt Switch. The effect ends if either the user or the target leaves the field, or if the target uses Mortal Spin, Rapid Spin, or Substitute successfully. This effect is not stackable or reset by using this or another binding move.

Type

Electric

Category

Special

Power

80

Accuracy

90

PP (max)

15 (24)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.28.2

Ability: Transistor

This Pokemon's offensive stat is multiplied by 1.3 while using an Electric-type attack.

Sableye version 4.28.2

[short quiver]

so its ability is basically an electric terrain boost

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 894: Regieleki

Type

Electric

Abilities

Transistor

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

80/100/50/100/50/200

Total

580

Sableye version 4.28.2

[left bobcat]

regieleki stacking that bread

[short quiver]

imagine its ability+the terrain+the stab bonus+ a move like thunder

[left bobcat]

All you need is just the rain that’s pretty much death

[short quiver]

kyogre 💀

chat i have a team for global challenge

😃

[left bobcat]

Nuh uh

[short quiver]

tfym nuh uh

[left bobcat]

You don’t got a team bro you ain’t like that bro

[short quiver]

i do have a team

[left bobcat]

Lettuce see it

[short quiver]

all i’ll tell you is torkoal jumpluff

cuz if your playing the gc if i tell you my team and then i gotta fight you im cooked

[left bobcat]

Gonna find out eventually besides torkoal and jumpluff tells me kind of everything I need to know

Besides a run a similar team

[short quiver]

what does it tell you

[left bobcat]

Well for starters chlorophyll jumpluff is basic could be a focus sash/covert cloak jumpluff with encore, tailwind, sleep powder, and rage powder

[short quiver]

incorrect

well. 2/4

[left bobcat]

I can kind of get the idea I mean torkoal?

[short quiver]

torkoals kinda just there to set up sun and dip

[left bobcat]

It’s a sun team that I can only assume works in both trick room and tailwind

What reg is this reg h?

[short quiver]

yea

[left bobcat]

Hmmm well that’s a waste

If it’s reg h then something like sneasler, ursaluna, and arch as an answer for rain teams is bound to show up

Unless you decide to be “different”

[short quiver]

my team will just crumble if someone trick rooms me

i need to consider who i give Taunt on my team

[left bobcat]

Jumpluff

[short quiver]

i want more than one mon to have it for sure

again trick room goes up im just cooked

[left bobcat]

Incin

[short quiver]

disgusting

[left bobcat]

Well that’s how it is

[short quiver]

im not using that stupid cat

[left bobcat]

I’m gonna assume that the team has glass canons

More than it’s supposed to have

[short quiver]

yes

[short quiver]

yes (x2)

[left bobcat]

Then just consider a bulky attacker or just have a your own trick room answer

[short quiver]

i will have a trickroom answer

[left bobcat]

Regular ursaluna does the job well

And you have torkoal-

[short quiver]

cant get up trick room if i keep taunting you

[left bobcat]

Follow me and trick room is very common

Especially indeedee

[short quiver]

hm

i didnt consider that

[left bobcat]

Ofc u didn’t u got torkoal and jumpluff and 2 glass canons which I can assume don’t have a taunt

And I confused jumpluff with whims because jumpluff can’t even learn taunt

[short quiver]

my team is 3 supports one semi-support and 2 damage carries

[left bobcat]

3 supports?

[short quiver]

yeah

[left bobcat]

Especially with incin being so common in reg h I’m sure your team isn’t full of physical attackers unless you got annihilape

[short quiver]

it is not

i have a physical attacker and my semi support is a mixed attacker

[left bobcat]

A mixed attacker? That’s questionable

[short quiver]

yes

[left bobcat]

Mixed attackers don’t exactly work you’re better off leaning into one area because it means the mixed attacker doesn’t excel unless you’re using a life orb

[short quiver]

i know what im doing

[left bobcat]

Are you sure?

[short quiver]

no its supporting the team with its mixed attacks

[left bobcat]

[short quiver]

for instance it knows fake out

[left bobcat]

I see so it runs moves like fake out and possibly electro web and icy wind

[short quiver]

smthn like that yeah

[left bobcat]

Well it’s probably neither of those but as an example

[short quiver]

its justified mix attacking

[left bobcat]

Well as long as it knows follow me that’s what matters

[short quiver]

no its not smeargle

[left bobcat]

Smeargle doesn’t exactly run moved like that

[short quiver]

i didnt even consider that wait

[short quiver]

ive heard of fake out icy wind smeargle

[left bobcat]

It’s common moves would be fake out, spores follow me, and potentially spiky shield for fake outs or they just whip out Tera ghost

Or even different moves like wide guard, coaching, and decorate

[left bobcat]

Oh boy- that’s why picks like Clefairy, clefable, magmar, electabuzz are good picks

Because if the mixed support attacker isn’t meant for dealing damage then obviously the player isn’t going to focus on them rather the one that does more damage

[short quiver]

well. i hope you like your entire team being paralyzed then

[left bobcat]

Electabuzz is really good in the format because of its ability vital spirit being able to redirect and ignore spore which is commonly and as an electric type ignored paralysis and doesn’t care for burn because it’s not a physical attacker and with electro web support slows down the enemy

[left bobcat]

Well good thing my team can’t get paralyzed or doesn’t need to be worried about paralysis

[short quiver]

but no fake out

[left bobcat]

I don’t really use fake out anyways

[short quiver]

hatterene can learn nuzzle?

interesting

[left bobcat]

Hatterene and nuzzle in the same sentence that’s unheard of

I don’t think Hatterene can learn nuzzle

[short quiver]

it can

its an egg move

[left bobcat]

Oh didn’t think about that but who runs nuzzle on Hatterene anyways

[short quiver]

i would

im just crazy enough

[left bobcat]

It’s ridiculously slow

[short quiver]

oh noooo

half the pokemon in the game are “rediculously slow”

i have a shiny hatterene. i spent a week masuda shiny hunting it

[left bobcat]

In terms of competitive play no not really

It’s just mediocre speed

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 858: Hatterene

Types

Psychic/Fairy

Abilities

Healer, Anticipation, Magic Bounce (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

57/90/95/136/103/29

Total

510

Sableye version 4.28.2

[short quiver]

that’s trick room speed

[left bobcat]

Well duhhh

[short quiver]

see its not rediculously low

its just awkward if no trick room

[left bobcat]

🤦🏽‍♂️

You got it bud and anyways good luck with whatever you got going on

[short quiver]

:3

idk why i picked the semi support i did

but i did.

[red willow]

Eyyyy we getting a locals 25 mins from me its a miracle

[near crag]

What's the idea behind using mons like skeledurge, ceruledge, or gyarados? Why would I ever not use typhlosion/torkoal, for the first two, or primarina/any other rain mons for gyarados?

[rustic mountain]

they offer different things im not sure wat ur asking

skeledirge having unaware can be nice vs set up strats on top of utilizing stuff like torch song to boost itself up, ceruledge has decent offensive capability w/ fire/ghost but isnt necessarily as frail as a hisuan typhloshion while being able to bulk itself up if needed and gyrados has one of the best abilities in the game in intimidate while offering a more supporting role for the water type in stuff like taunt, t wave etc

[cosmic patio]

who got extra legends for trade

[woven pelican]

people in #1112832566261731328 do

[brave hazel]

So sick of spore users in singles. Can’t prankster taunt them because brute bonnet is dark, or they always switch in with a dark user & hatterene magic bounce is horrible unless you’re using her on a trick room team.

We need a better magic bouncer. I don’t remember if Mega sableye was any good at that job.

[waxen dock]

252 SpA Choice Specs Tera Fire Typhlosion-Hisui Helping Hand Eruption (150 BP) vs. 228 HP / 124 SpD Assault Vest Incineroar in Sun: 173-204 (86.9 - 102.5%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO

hisuian yuphlosion is so strong

[solid frigate]

one sucker punch later:

actually wait

252+ Atk Kingambit Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Tera Fire Typhlosion-Hisui: 82-97 (55.4 - 65.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Yeah nvm

[cyan smelt]

What about tera dark

[brave hazel]

I was playing singles last night, 6v6, I had 4 left & he had 1, he managed to get 2 sword dances off because he used dark terra against my grim so I couldn’t taunt him.

Swept me with sucker punch terra boosted. He was 2hp to

[solid frigate]

barely did not OHKO

[cyan smelt]

Maybe tera dark helping hand ohko

[tiny karma]

Move: Infernal Parade

Has a 30% chance to burn the target. Power doubles if the target has a non-volatile status condition.

Type

Ghost

Category

Special

Power

60

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

15 (24)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.28.2

[short quiver]

define non volatile 😭

[stone trellis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2427562221-vn144syb45x1yqemjjq8iu77ulw08nbpw

https://tenor.com/view/flight-flight-not-laughing-flightreacts-flight-reacts-flightreacts-not-laughing-gif-6356142083741775471

This is the type of luck I get when I have a good MU.
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2427563199

[rustic hull]

Does transform imprison mew ring a bell to anyone?

[waxen dock]

yes

[rustic hull]

Who counters it easily?

[cyan smelt]

Prankster taunt

[waxen dock]

just ko it it not that fast and defensive

[solid frigate]

@craggy dagger

[stone trellis]

I fucking suck at Reg H.

I genuinely cannot enjoy this shit.

[next stump]

RIP

it’s a hard format

[stone trellis]

I'm just a shit player.

[chrome knot]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2427628040-5fd81m57bgo47307oamg5tlxtm4yandpw

this format rly fun tbh

[solid frigate]

I love when restricted formats is more diverse than this format for some reason

[cyan smelt]

How do people find enjoyment in using dondozo

[chrome knot]

i enjoy playing vs dozo

haze button

[next stump]

I think we’re in a weird point of Reg H where most teams are stuff that existed in Reg H 1.0 and there won’t be very much creativity until the next IRL tournament

[solid frigate]

Haze and clear smog my beloved

[solid frigate]

Hopefully this aged well

[next stump]

I think we’ll see at least 1 or 2 Baxcalibur, Primarina, Typhlosion, Dragapult, Glimmora, etc. in top cuts soon

pokémon that had 0 usage in Reg I

[bold geode]

[weary quartz]

has someone some advice for building a good sand team?

[next stump]

Are you looking to play single or double battles?

[solid frigate]

I would 100% love to see Dragapult getting usage

[weary quartz]

vgc reg H, i got ttar av, exca clear amulet, gastrodon sitrus, talonflame goggles, chomp loaded dice, tsareena wide lens

not bad but doesnt work too well, excee

ptionally againzt tr

[next stump]

In VGC, an entire team built around a weather type doesn’t really work well. Most sand teams that see success might have Tyranitar + Exca but that’s really the only sand abusers. I think you can also include Garchomp if you’d really like but it’s some overlap with Exca

These are Tyranitar Exca teams from previous tournaments that have done well

https://pokepast.es/78cd3c3bd0e50846

Heres a link to the one with Talonflame and Gastrodon if you want to see the moves and items

[stone trellis]

Where's the overlap between Garchomp and Excadrill?

Excadrill's weaknesses are Ground, Water, Fire and Fighting.

[next stump]

They’re both primarily there to click earthquake next to a flying tyranitar

[stone trellis]

Fair point.

[craggy dagger]

what-

[solid frigate]

Mew stuff

[weary quartz]

thank you very much!

[gentle crag]

bobovile has given 1 Gen Rep to mlbd

[stone trellis]

I love Reg J, these people will genuinely do the most random shit ever.

[next stump]

you’re very welcome 🙂

[stone trellis]

I just beat a Kyogre-CSR psyspam team.

And it only took 12 or 13 turns.

[weary quartz]

the idea with the chomp loaded dice was to scale shot to outspeed unburden sneasler and deal with dnite

under tailwind

[stone trellis]

Unburden Sneasler or regular?

Regular Sneasler still gets blitzed by Excadrill.

[weary quartz]

unburden under tailwind

my tailwind sorry

[stone trellis]

Okay, that makes sense.

[solid frigate]

Scale shot Chomp is kinda mid in VGC

Usually you run Lorb or SD

[weary quartz]

because otherwise just obliterates excadrill

[stone trellis]

The best Pokemon I've used against Sneasler is Salamence, funnily enough.

[weary quartz]

yes i was just exploring differently maybe using it to break sneasler sash before unburden activates

[solid frigate]

Sneasler rarely run Sash in Unburden set no?

[next stump]

I think scale shot sand veil garchomp is worth testing, but if you find it doesn’t work well then it’s probably the first slot to get changed

[stone trellis]

I think I used something like Covert Cloak too, that shit bullies the weasel so hard.

[weary quartz]

special or physical? i tried it bulky physical attacker with clear amulet and tailwind and was funny

[stone trellis]

Physical.

Specifically because of Dual Wingbeat.

[weary quartz]

ive found some actually on sd

[stone trellis]

252 Atk Salamence Dual Wingbeat (2 hits) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Sneasler: 216-256 (139.3 - 165.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
-1 252 Atk Salamence Dual Wingbeat (2 hits) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Sneasler: 144-172 (92.9 - 110.9%) -- 62.9% chance to OHKO

[weary quartz]

so good

[shadow wind]

Until it misses

[stone trellis]

Give Salamence a multi-hit Normal move next gen, I want to see Sneasler suffer.

[shadow wind]

I’ve seen people use Gliscor as well

[weary quartz]

would be crazy wide lens mence dual wingbeat dragon rush

[red willow]

Someone told me Metagross was REAL good into sneasler and I honestly could see it

[shadow wind]

It resists both stabs

[stone trellis]

It has P-Blades into Tera Fire CIR accuracy when the target is a Fighting type.

[red willow]

Problem is idk what else it really accomplishes

[stone trellis]

Die to Incineroar and Gholdengo.

[shadow wind]

Dog Groudon wasn’t even mentioned 😭😭😭

And Sneasler ain’t no CIR threat

[stone trellis]

I never said that.

[shadow wind]

Coolio

No need to argue I was clearly misunderstanding the situation

[stone trellis]

I just said that DW's accuracy when the target has the innate urge to throw hands is similar to that of Precipice Blades when the target (specifically Ice Rider) is Tera Fire.

[red willow]

So for my first reg h local should I try out Arch rain Sneasler Balance or Sunroom?

[next stump]

IMO Sunroom

people will have more practice against Arch rain

Trick Room tends to destroy locals

[near crag]

Any thoughts abt this team? https://pokepast.es/35b3dad11fd6ffa6 would be for the gc

[next stump]

Are you running speedy Ursa/Sylveon?

[near crag]

Sylveon has some investment, but ursa is min reduced

[next stump]

I think it’s going to be very difficult to get TR up with this team

[chrome knot]

ms vivillon

[near crag]

What do you think I should change?

[next stump]

I honestly am not sure, I think in general Gallade feels awkward because it doesn’t have Indeedee for redirection or something like Incineroar for Fake Out to help it out. I know Amoonguss is there but it’s hard to imagine what teams you have a good matchup into with Amoonguss/Gallade lead, Sylveon/Ursa in the back

[near crag]

Maybe i could run speedy ursa and sylveon, and leave tr as a secondary option

[next stump]

I think there’s good value in closed teamsheet bluffing that you’re a TR Ursaluna and having some speed

[near crag]

But do you think that could not work in an OTS scenario?

[next stump]

It can work for a game but with BO3 they’ll be able to adjust

Doesn’t mean you won’t win but just not as strong

[chrome knot]

when is gcs?

[near crag]

But then would I not be able to set tr easier, if they are overrespecting a fast threat?

[near crag]

first one is next weekend, pretty sure

[next stump]

You definitely can, but if you’re running just Gallade as a TR setter without much support then TR isn’t as scary

Normally it’s Indeedee + Gallade + Hatterene or something

[bold geode]

Hello stinky

[chrome knot]

hi monke

i have finalized my team for tn :3

[bold geode]

Pog

[stone trellis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regj-2427693008

I want to participate in the Global Challenge, but I also hate Reg H.

I want to build a team that won't make me pull my hair out because it's only good in theory.

[waxen dock]

Do you think if i have 1500 ladder bo1 reg h in showdown i will be able to do top 128? In reg g i did top 128 but i didnt compete for cp back then

[next stump]

Are you in the seniors or masters age division

[vocal anvil]

competitively which is better the phantom or ice calyrex?

[lost sun]

shadow

[vocal anvil]

about those legendaries of unova which one is better in competitive?

[next stump]

Landorus

[vocal anvil]

Ok thanks

[waxen dock]

Senior

[waxen dock]

Lando and torn

[next stump]

Yeah you should be able to make Top 128 pretty easily

They’re changing how global challenges work this year too, you’re only competing against players in your home region for points

So if you live in NA for example, all EU players will be filtered out for your points

[foggy lodge]

I want to be Gabriel Agati

[waxen dock]

This is actually not good for mr

Me

[chrome knot]

oh fr?

is there a post about the new pts brackets?

[waxen dock]

Are you sure it works that way?

I hope it doesnt

[foggy lodge]

Yeah it works like that

GC winners are now separated by region

[next stump]

yep they changed it this year

why is that not good for you?

[waxen dock]

I only fight pkayers from my region?

[next stump]

no

you play against everyone

[waxen dock]

Oh

[next stump]

but you earn points separately by region

[waxen dock]

What if my di ision has a very small amount of players?

[next stump]

then it’s easier to place higher

[waxen dock]

But it also mean that i will fight good players

[next stump]

If you want to go to worlds, you gotta play against and sometimes beat good players

[nocturne holly]

Anyone have an np dengo spread

[waxen dock]

but my division in my region will probably have less than 40 players so only top 16 will get points and its hard to get to top 16

because most of the "noobs" are from usa and europe so competing with good players is hard

[short quiver]

cant get good without some losses gng

[waxen dock]

because the "noobs" are the ones that mostly take the space that give you points

[next stump]

That’s what practice is for, you might not earn points on your first run but there’s 8 or so of these throughout a season

1500 on the bo1 ladder in showdown means you’re Top 500 players of all age divisions, getting top 16 of a small pool of players is easier than that

[jade dust]

I hope that for next gen, Tapus return and receive some very needed buffs

There is no reason why Tapu Bulu and Koko don’t learn Play Rough

[stone trellis]

Just give Play Rough perfect accuracy and give it to Tapu Koko.

Oh, and Tapu Rilla- I mean, Tapu Bulu.

[jade dust]

Give Tapu Bulu grassy glide too

[waxen dock]

that was the previous gc

so lets say i have 40 players in my division

[jade dust]

I don’t see why Tapu Bulu shouldn’t get grassy glide when Rilla does

And grassy glide was already nerfed from 70 BP to 55 BP

[waxen dock]

and like 30 of them are serious players

[jade dust]

Lol

[waxen dock]

i have a very low chance of getting points

[jade dust]

While you’re at that, it’s fine if Tapu Lele gets expanding force

She was using Dazzling gleam and Psychic already anyway so it would just change to be moonblast and expanding force

[next stump]

I promise you that if you go in with this mentality, you will guaranteed get no points

You need to do better than half the people playing, that is not that hard

[bold geode]

So we're probably just playing only against people in our region too then right

[next stump]

no I think you play against everyone globally still

let me find the article

[waxen dock]

Half the people that play in my region

[short quiver]

chat do you think i could cook something with umbreon

[next stump]

I’m struggling to navigate pokémon’s abysmal website but I’m 99.9% sure that GCs will now filter points by region because I can find discussion threads in other discords about it

So if finish at 1705 which is good for 68th place overall, you might get Top 16 for NA players

etc.

[next stump]

I think one thing you’re misinterpreting about the rule changes is the CP kicker. I don’t know how many seniors play overall but if there are 500 seniors worldwide playing, that will be the kicker that determines points I’m pretty sure. It won’t be how many Seniors in your region are playing

So you could be the 30th best senior in your region and still earn points

It’s a new system so I’m not 100% sure it works like that but I am fairly sure

[waxen dock]

Oh

[next stump]

Now I will say that if you’re consistently the 30th best senior on average in your region in online challenges and never attend regionals, you probably won’t qualify for worlds

so if that’s your ultimate goal this year, some part of the process needs to change

Not sure what region you’re from but assuming it’s not NA/EU based off what you said earlier, you’re gonna need to be Top 10 or so

[waxen dock]

I would guess there will be 1000-3000

So lets say there are 2049

And i am on like 500 place overall but 16th on my division but there are like 26 people would i still get points?

[next stump]

At the end of the day this is me assuming how the new system works, but here’s what I would guess.

Let’s say you’re from Oceania and there are 50 seniors total playing there. Overall, there are 3000 seniors playing across the world. If you place 500th overall, that might be good enough for 20th overall in Oceania. You will then receive Top 32CP for your performance in the GC.

Also finally found a website that talks about the change, middle of the screenshot

I think the only part about my example/assumptions that can be wrong is how they handle the kicker. They might have different kickers for each region based off total players.

Maybe NA has 2049 players, so they get points for Top 1028 in their region. If Oceania only has 50 players, then they only get points for Top 16 of their region, etc.

I’d be surprised if they did it this way but it’s definitely possible

Actually the more I think about it, the more I am starting to think that the kicker will end up being per region. Because otherwise we’d end up in scenarios where EVERYONE from a small region earns points from the GC, even if they do terribly. So they’ll probably end up creating fully separate rankings for each region with separate CP kickers to determine points

[waxen dock]

Make sense

But i still think the old gc was the best

[foggy lodge]

Its a bug boost for everyone on points

[next stump]

I’m pretty sure they’re functionally identical, the new one just ends up giving out more points on average. Let’s use the same Oceania (OCE) example from above.

In last year’s system, you’d play your games against people across the world and end up with a ranking at the end. Let’s say you end in 100th place. You’d earn 65CP for your efforts.

In this year’s system, you still play against players from across the world. Let’s say you end up Rank 100 again (equally as difficult as before because the playerbase hasn’t changed). There’s now an extra layer of filtering that gets applied. If there are 50 players in Oceania, being Top 100 overall means you’re 100% going to be in Top 16, maybe even Top 8 players. You now earn 130-140CP for your efforts.

The only possible way the system is worse is if your region is SUBSTANTIALLY better AND smaller than the main regions. Maybe in seniors that’s the case, but in Masters there isn’t anywhere that is true. I really doubt your overall placement compared to people in your region (because remember, those are the people you’re competing with for worlds) will be different

[foggy lodge]

And forces everyone to pay more attention to the GCs now

[nocturne holly]

https://pokepast.es/a529ecc19e30a9fb what could I use over dengo on this

[foggy lodge]

Why do you want to remove dengo?

[bold geode]

Ayo quick question
Can a side Parting Shot activate an Eject Pack?

[next stump]

I would guess yes

but I’m not sure

[bold geode]

Ok

[dense latch]

Because only one Pokémon can switch out per move, a Pokémon's held Eject Pack will not activate if it is hit by Parting Shot.

from bulbapedia

[next stump]

oh shit the more you learn

[dense latch]

yea i thought it would too

but ig it's basically just u-turn/volt switch into eject button reskinned

[stone trellis]

Did you know that holding the Clear Amulet will not prevent Pokemon with Magic Bounce from being forcibly switched out by Parting Shot?

(I know it's most likely common information, but still)

[foggy lodge]

Oh

So that's why eject button denies the pivot moves

[next stump]

I remember learning that when Ben Grissmer ran clear amulet at a regional and then posted afterwards that he baited everyone

and no one clicked parting shot into him

[foggy lodge]

And people said that you couldn't troll in OTS

[stone trellis]

That's where I learned this from too.

[foggy lodge]

Tbf it probably had an actual use for snarl and stuff ig

[stone trellis]

But yeah, this might actually be important to keep in mind.

[nocturne holly]

Grimmsnarl players can’t form a single coherent thought in their head except t wave spam

[stone trellis]

I want to make a Grimmsnarljak now.

[nocturne holly]

Can u ev basc to live grassy glide form rilla

[foggy lodge]

Yes

[stone trellis]

36+ Atk Rillaboom Grassy Glide vs. 28 HP / 124 Def Basculegion in Grassy Terrain: 134-158 (67.3 - 79.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Grassy Terrain recovery
It's not even close, to be honest.

116+ Atk Rillaboom Grassy Glide vs. 60 HP / 0 Def Basculegion in Grassy Terrain: 168-200 (82.7 - 98.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Grassy Terrain recovery

[nocturne holly]

60hp not even that much

Do I take it from atk or spe

[stone trellis]

Probably Speed.

The only thing Basculegion wants to and can outspeed with correct EVs is probably Dragapult.

[bold geode]

I see

[bold geode]

No Rillaboom in H would be running that investment

[near crag]

Any ideas on how to improve on this? Seems weird, but I can't really put my finger on why https://pokepast.es/afc3af2d770168a0

[stone trellis]

252+ Atk Rillaboom Grassy Glide vs. 60 HP / 68 Def Basculegion in Grassy Terrain: 168-200 (82.7 - 98.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Grassy Terrain recovery

It's not that deep, man.

[nocturne holly]

Anyone have np dengo

[next stump]

timid 252 SPE for sure on nasty plot gholdengo, really useful to win speed interactions or guarantee a tie

unless you have like electabuzz or priority tailwind

[round abyss]

wbt for bulk

[next stump]

I think the standard spread is like 116HP/4DEF/132SpA/4SpD/252SPE

[polar canyon]

It feels like I forgot how to play low power formats

I had a long break and came back to the game at reg i/j

Long for my own standards at least

[stone trellis]

I never learned how to play low power formats since I started when Reg G came back.

[polar canyon]

Playing my old team feels right but it doesn't feel like a team I built myself

Guess my playstyle just changed since then

I think I might build with sableye

I think my favorite way of playing is having a guy out in the field that's passive enough to not be considered a priority threat to take out half the time but is constantly crippling the opponent

Support volcarona with wisp, sableye, webs electabuzz, all are mons I enjoy using

[stone trellis]

Volcarona is so fucking funny to me.

[lofty bridge]

Anyone wanna build a team with me ina little bit at like 6:00 PM EST

[stone trellis]

Which format?

[lofty bridge]

Whatever we decide

[polar canyon]

I like support volc a lot more than offensive

Sun support volc in reg g was really funny

Whichever one was the single legendary format I think it was g right?

[stone trellis]

Yes.

[lofty bridge]

You can decide if you want to

[polar canyon]

Constantly there with struggle bug and rage powder but as soon as zama shows up I reveal the overheat

Really funny in cts

[lofty bridge]

That’s a cool tech

[lofty bridge]

Real

[stone trellis]

I'm kinda shit at Reg H.

So I'd appreciate it if we did either Reg I or Reg J.

[polar canyon]

Can't really remember what was on that team but I think it was korai with howl scream tail

[lofty bridge]

Yeah sounds good

[lofty bridge]

You wanna build a team with us?

[polar canyon]

Sorry I'll be busy in a bit

[lofty bridge]

Totally fine

[polar canyon]

You know what those regs are right?

[lofty bridge]

Yes

[polar canyon]

Cool just making sure

Reg I and reg I + arceus and magearna

[lofty bridge]

Reg I is double restricted format with kitakami and blueberry academy dex plus paldea dex and some exceptions from him and Reg J is reg I but includes mythical as restricteds. Right?

[polar canyon]

Yeah

[lofty bridge]

From it I mean*

[solid frigate]

Reg I is basically everything minus Mythicals

Reg J is basically everything

[polar canyon]

I gotta admit I am actually kinda proud of my position in reg j ladder

[lofty bridge]

Ok because I’ve only been doing vgc for like 3 months and I’m kinda still shit at the game but I’m able to make some reads and make good plays

[polar canyon]

I know it's not super impressive but for someone who's not like an irl player and after a break of a few months, I think top 250 is cool

I gotta check if I'm still there

I dropped a bit

Top 300

[solid frigate]

Oh and btw

Don’t text in rental teams unless you are posting a rental here

[lofty bridge]

Oh I’m sorry didn’t know that I just wanted to congratulate him

[bold geode]

1. Thank you I appreciate it
2. plz don't send regular messages in the #rental_teams chat as we like to keep it clear for rental teams
3. In case you're wondering, the Sash on Urshifu is needed for some extra survivability which helps in MUs like MiraiNala

[gentle crag]

dollarmonke has given 1 Gen Rep to kotathecoconut

[chrome knot]

monk e

[bold geode]

I think a lot of people for Worlds also went to Sash Ursh

[bold geode]

Emm a

[chrome knot]

hi

[bold geode]

[chrome knot]

[bold geode]

What's going on, we cookin today or

[chrome knot]

mario kart tourney made me vry sleepy and im hangry for dinny atm so no vgc today

[bold geode]

I see
How did tourney go

[chrome knot]

on the bright side i carried for mario kart

[bold geode]

Oh shit

[chrome knot]

we’re 4-0 in swiss so we qualified for the top bracket

[bold geode]

That's sick

[chrome knot]

look at me im so good looking tbh

[bold geode]

Damn

[chrome knot]

these are the other 2

that second img was wrong image but im jus the best :3

[craggy dagger]

[bold geode]

Kickin ass

[chrome knot]

kinda sucks bc i wish i could apply this motivation to vgc

[chrome knot]

i just don’t love vgc the way i love mario kart

[bold geode]

I literally just be like "ah I wanna do this today" LOL

[craggy dagger]

dont be mean to me :(

[chrome knot]

individual stuff is scary

i don’t have people in my corner to pick back up if it goes wrong

[chrome knot]

that and i often lose to my own overthinking

[craggy dagger]

im living with a god in my head :(

[bold geode]

I try not to overthink myself but sometimes yeah

[bold geode]

Khonshu?

[polar canyon]

Pokemon

[stone trellis]

This is entirely unrelated, but I beat Kirby and the Forgotten Land today.

[chrome knot]

which then makes team based activities very fun for me

[stone trellis]

It was certified peak.

[chrome knot]

and then vgc became a second that i didn’t rly care abt for awhile

[polar canyon]

Awesome that game is like in my top 5 no particular order favorite games of all time

[stone trellis]

I cheesed the fuck out of Fecto Elfilis with Blizzard Ice because it's very balanced.

[chrome knot]

i still don’t rly but,, i wanna have a mutual interest with kat still so ill keep playing it

[bold geode]

I mean it happens
Sometimes you just
Need a bit away

[polar canyon]

Go for 100% next

[craggy dagger]

THE MOOOONNNN

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/TalonVGC/status/1959707084150411329

Talon (@TalonVGC)

I made an unholy bargain that for every teen I beat at an event I win back a fractional mm of my hairline.

If I lose they just say ggs unc and I take Lasting Spiritual Damage.

X · Aug 24, 2025, 7:59 PM

[bold geode]

Is there not anything else

[chrome knot]

theres alot else it just vgc the main one

[stone trellis]

Like I promised, I will have to beat Ultimate Cup Z 20 times in a row.

[polar canyon]

No spoilers but the post game is peak, it's like the only kirby game where the events of the extra post game mode and final boss rush are actually canon and it's peak

[stone trellis]

Since Gio won Worlds.

[bold geode]

I see

[craggy dagger]

wait no

[polar canyon]

I wanna spoil it so bad because I love what happens in the extra mode

Paul do you know what happens yet

[stone trellis]

||Leongar's dead and I have to retrieve the fragments of his soul, right?||

FUCK WRONG THING

[polar canyon]

I mean that's still right

[polar canyon]

The important part is that what's happening is canon

[craggy dagger]

you stinky so yeah

[polar canyon]

Just wait until the end

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-gif-18399658447366638577

[polar canyon]

So what're you guys up to today comp chat

[stone trellis]

||Chaos Elfilis is only in Ultimate Cup Z, right?||

[polar canyon]

It's about the character in the final level of the extra mode, do you know which one I mean or not

[stone trellis]

Why do you keep using stickers of this VTuber?

[polar canyon]

I'm guessing they're a fan of a his vtuber

[stone trellis]

||Who, Morpho Knight?||

[polar canyon]

Yeah

[stone trellis]

Wasn't he canon to Star Allies?

[polar canyon]

No

[stone trellis]

The fuck?

[polar canyon]

The friend adventures are an extra what-if mode

Morpho knight is actually canon before galacta knight now

He's basically the grim reaper and keeper of balance in the world that goes after excessively powerful beings

I think

The lore about him is very confusing

I'm such a sucker for kirby lore and forgotten land was so huge for it

[solid frigate]

Kirby lore mentioned?

Oh shit wrong ping

[polar canyon]

Kirby lore mentioned

[craggy dagger]

?????????

[polar canyon]

||The techno ancients are humans||

||probably||

[solid frigate]

I pinged the wrong person lmao

[polar canyon]

||It's never confirmed that the people in the forgotten land were humans but like you gotta assume they are||

[solid frigate]

Oh yeah star crossed world is in 28th

I’m actually curious

[polar canyon]

But it's very fitting for the traitor people who banned magic to be humans

[stone trellis]

I can't decide if I like Two Planets Approach the Roche Limit more than Star Conquering Traveler.

[polar canyon]

Metro on ice clears

Try going for the timer challenges special time goals

They're not required for 100% but it's a fun challenge and cool flex if you get all of them

Some of them get really hard

The frosty ice quick clear goal is hell

[stone trellis]

Do you gain anything from completing them besides the 50 Star Coin bonus?

[polar canyon]

The challenges or the quick clear goals?

[stone trellis]

The quick clear ones.

[polar canyon]

The sense of accomplishment

[stone trellis]

I'm not doing it.

I got the game literally four days ago, let me enjoy it.

[polar canyon]

Alright just a suggestion

You could play the first level and quit the game for all I care

[solid frigate]

I only like return to dreamland cuz it feels good to play and this bitch exists

[polar canyon]

He is scum and belongs in hell I love him

[solid frigate]

I’m just happy on how well he is written

[polar canyon]

Return to dream land deluxe gave him a nice ending

And made a game I really like canon

[stone trellis]

I haven't played Planet Robobot, but Star Dream was so fire that I used its design as a reference for a Pokemon.

[polar canyon]

I think dedede is still the coolest character in kirby

Only one with character development throughout the games

[solid frigate]

And constant design change

[polar canyon]

I wish he kept the new design in air riders

I like big large guy

He's just so little and tiny in modern games

[solid frigate]

I mean it’s a Sakurai game

Keeping old design makes sense

[stone trellis]

Air Riders? The one where one of the songs has a weird-ass comment section on YouTube?

Oh, that's Air Ride.

They made a new one?

[polar canyon]

Sakurai is making a new one

Mr. Smash bros who is the father of Kirby the last kirby game he worked on was air ride

And made incredible game design videos and was awarded for it

[stone trellis]

I know who Masahiro Sakurai is, Campfire.

[polar canyon]

Just making sure

I mean both options would make sense

Him wanting to use the new design since it's more resembling of games he worked on

Or wanting to use the design that's in smash bros

Is murkrow still relevant

[bold geode]

Meh

It's alright

[polar canyon]

I might wanna try it

I kinda wanna use fast ursa bm again

Could be a hybrid team to go tr mode against opposing tw

Since ursa is hardly outspeeding stuff anyways

[rigid crane]

anyone have a good team for rank 10 singles?

im struggling to get out of rank 10

[next stump]

unfortunately most of this chat is doubles players 😦

[rigid crane]

that's unfortunate, so much for asking for help

[foggy lodge]

https://youtu.be/kNQ1zIAZapk?si=2C68v06Xow_bQ081

Lmfao

[solid frigate]

W h a t.

[short quiver]

could he what

[next stump]

https://x.com/vgccorner/status/1959748226065867220?s=46&t=fDxHQLlKCKU_ddfszOAZ6w

Brady Smith - VGC Corner (@vgccorner)

Reg H Gholdengo Guide (6 sets and EV spreads)

Set #1 Modest LO Setup
Gholdengo @ Life Orb
Ability: Good as Gold
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 212 HP / 100 SpA / 196 SpD
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Make It Rain
- Shadow Ball
- Nasty Plot
- Protect
Notes:
-

X · Aug 24, 2025, 10:42 PM

[short quiver]

chat is there a team i can cook with foul play snarl umbre

[dense latch]

this is sick i was just looking for some grassy seed dengo spreads

[short quiver]

hey for jumpluff could i run sleep powder tailwind energy ball protect

[dense latch]

protect is a waste of a moveslot on jumpluff usually

simply because it has much better moves

[short quiver]

encore?

[dense latch]

Jumpluff @ Covert Cloak
Ability: Chlorophyll
Level: 50
Tera Type: Dark
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature

• Tailwind
• Sleep Powder
• Rage Powder
• Encore

[short quiver]

i have covert on someone else

[dense latch]

most common set

what's the team

[short quiver]

typhlosion-h ninetales-k jumpluff glimmora meowscarada florges

ninetales is here to fake tears/helping hand

idk which one i want more on her

ninetales has the cloak with helping hand/fake tears protect overheat willowisp

glimmora doesnt learn poison gas? 😭

[foggy lodge]

wtf is florgess doing there

florgess get out that's not your family

[short quiver]

tank

[foggy lodge]

and do...

[short quiver]

and so i can actually hit dragons

my only other dragon answer is meowscarada triple axel

and ig typhlosion infernal parade

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 671: Florges

Type

Fairy

Abilities

Flower Veil, Symbiosis (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

78/65/68/112/154/75

Total

552

Sableye version 4.28.2

[foggy lodge]

huh

[short quiver]

look at that juicy SpD stat

[foggy lodge]

Still seems super bad you are better using your own dragon

Either garchomp or dnite were used on sun teams

[short quiver]

i need someone who can take hits though

[foggy lodge]

Multiscale Dnite

[short quiver]

😃

[foggy lodge]

Or even an actual redirector like Clefable

Can take hits and be active in the battle unlike Florges

[short quiver]

follow me moonblast

blank and blank

with blank item

[foggy lodge]

protect follow me moonblast skill swap

Goggles/sitrus

Or misty terrain if you are that worried about dragons

[short quiver]

and what do i give typhlosion with heat wave eruption infernal parade protect

[foggy lodge]

It denies status moves and weakens dragon moves

[foggy lodge]

Aren't you specs

[dense latch]

infernal parade is strictly worse than shadow ball

also you should def be choiced

[foggy lodge]

Mhm

[dense latch]

either scarf or specs

[short quiver]

glimmora to keep stuff poisoned