competitive_discussion

[woven pelican]

but i know i had a quiver dance volca that lasted a long time

[cyan smelt]

I won against someone before somehow because they left and had set up with cosmic power eternatus next to psych up Arceus

Thinking bout changing pecharunt's tera to dark

[foggy lodge]

nvm i won lmao

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reghbo3-2416268659-b2al7ionv9il59ffy4y7uo1yum2uoskpw
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reghbo3-2416267431-crb8ovp35p960yjq1bj1shrgj5iino5pw

Incin>>>

I was already thinking about using Incin instead of Dengo

I wanted something for the Indeedee Sneasler MU and Incin is that

[woven pelican]

I should do a random battle

brb

gonna try again, hopefully opponent doesn't discon

TIL arceus gets outsped by meowstic

It's time for a free for all

I don't like this anymore

[cyan smelt]

God do I have to watch out for tera fighting gholdengo now

[cyan smelt]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regj-2416292611-f3twsbx9rqs5lwdeg9aq864vp887usepw i'm really happy with how this team is going so far

4/4 wins

[wanton berry]

Kinda need help with this team for Reg H for VGC can anyone give me pointers with it https://pokepast.es/488f2aa008aa32c9

[cyan smelt]

rain and no archaludon seems kinda iffy

[wanton berry]

Well I’m just trying different Pokémon that might work together

[cyan smelt]

you could probably replace clefairy with sinistcha, it does basically the same thing

and weezing could be replaced with archaludon and then you've got a good rain team

you might want clear amulet on palafin too because otherwise it's vulnerable to intimidate cycling

[wanton berry]

True but I’m also trying to break the meta kinda how Wolfey almost did

And I know I’m not at his level of thinking

[cyan smelt]

if you're new you shouldn't try to innovate, go with what's proven

[wanton berry]

True but when I did try it it just didn’t feel like the way I like to play, I guess where I’m going with it is it don’t feel like my kind of play style going with meta pokemon

[cyan smelt]

well then look through tournament results for some off-meta teams and try and get inspiration from that

[wanton berry]

I am and picking some of the pokemon I liked from it like Palafin, Incineroar, and Whimsicott turned into my favorite Pokemon and building them into a Hyper Offensive team felt good but because no restricted Pokemon like Koraidon and Miraidon paired well into my hyper offensive team for Reg I working I should try a hyper offensive team that might work

And not to mention trying TR Hyper Voice team with Ursaluna Bloodmoon felt like a hyper offensive team

[cyan smelt]

blursa feels like a restricted in reg h lol

[wanton berry]

Ikr but it’s funny that it’s not

Maybe I should just go with the BlUrsa team again but try different builds and try to match pokemon that work with it

[cyan smelt]

if you know it works then you should definitely use it

[graceful scaffold]

I'm not a fan of the asakim kind

[wanton berry]

Right but then again the top teams are Rain teams with Arch bass and either blursa or it’s

[graceful scaffold]

Wrong channel I'm sorry...

[wanton berry]

U good

And I didn’t finish it due to auto correct it’s was supposed to be Ursa

[stone trellis]

That works pretty well with Pecharunt's typing, actually.

You don't retain any of your original weaknesses.

[cyan smelt]

And then I don't have to worry as much about caly s

[stone trellis]

Who are you going to pair Pech up with?

[cyan smelt]

i've just gone with the farig miraidon ursa team but added pecharunt

gave it room service

[real prairie]

the evil stall team didn't work?

[cyan smelt]

nah eternatus is too passive

[stone trellis]

Smart choice of dealing with that abysmally mid Speed.

[cyan smelt]

my primary thinking was i didn't want something that could be knocked off

it can tank a knock off if the item is consumed

[stone trellis]

Also, I recently watched a SkrawVGC vid and I kinda want to run Imprison + Transform on Mew.

[cyan smelt]

does the imprison work even after you've transformed? if so you could imprison glacial lance

[stone trellis]

Yeah, I think it does.

And you can't get statused on Mew without the status passing onto somebody else.

[cyan smelt]

ofc, synchronise

[stone trellis]

The funny thing about Imprison + Transform is that it makes the opponent either have to switch out or be forced into using Struggle.

[cyan smelt]

that's really smart actually

farig miraidon shuts down a lot of stuff like darkrai and arceus

i need to watch out for weezing arceus caly i though

*caly-s

[stone trellis]

Farigiraf deals with both forms of Weezing pretty well and CSR's worst enemy is someone who can hit it for super effective regardless of what it Teras into.

https://tenor.com/view/urshifu-single-strike-style-pokemon-gif-7632940851935758223

The Tera Stellar Poison Jab heading straight toward the Tera Fairy CSR:

[cyan smelt]

pecharunt is also surprisingly good against dozo, it puts it on a timer

[stone trellis]

Because of poison?

[cyan smelt]

yep, no more lefties recovery

then i can follow up with a hex

[stone trellis]

Mirai + Pech actually threatens it a lot.

[cyan smelt]

and the great thing about volt switch + tr is guts on ursaluna activates immediately

[stone trellis]

You're honestly cooking.

Do you want Mirai to be Scarf, Vest or Specs?

[cyan smelt]

people were running farig miraidon before 2 restricted i think

mirai is scarf

[stone trellis]

Cool.

You want help with the EVs, right?

[cyan smelt]

yeah i think so

[stone trellis]

Aight, time to get to work.

[cyan smelt]

i'll drop a paste first

https://pokepast.es/2c91b862c69183ee

i'm having fun with this team though

[stone trellis]

Sash Urshifu needs Detect instead of U-turn.

[cyan smelt]

oh right, i forgot that

[stone trellis]

It's all good.

Why is Miraidon so slow though?

Is it to survive Glacial Lance?

[cyan smelt]

Tbh I just took a spread from munchstats, I want it to survive an astral barrage

I am worried about zacian though

[cyan smelt]

has anyone thought about using hatterene to magic bounce the sleep back to darkrai?

[balmy glen]

Just nuke the Darkrai

Or Miraidon auto win

or click wide guard…

[cyan smelt]

miraidon is ez mode against darkrai

[stone trellis]

Miraidon + any Fairy type makes it even easier.

What are they going to do, die to Dazzling Gleam or go Tera Water and die to Electro Drift?

[cyan smelt]

miraidon makes the game ez mode

[stone trellis]

Unless you're facing down Ice Rider with redirection.

[cyan smelt]

or annihilape magearna

[stone trellis]

That too.

[cyan smelt]

i think if i face that i'm gonna lead with farig and urshifu since urshifu has the sash, and try and stall out tr so miraidon can come in to finish off tera water magearna

[stone trellis]

Yeah, that definitely works.

[cyan smelt]

caly-i is a definite problem though

[stone trellis]

If you can't beat it, join the crew.

Maintaining the CIR agenda is my utmost priority.

[cyan smelt]

i'll figure out how to beat it

[stone trellis]

See, here's the problem.

Protect on CIR + Trick Room is a ridiculously safe strat.

So is Follow Me + Trick Room on CIR.

[cyan smelt]

so is final gambit + tr on magearna

[stone trellis]

You don't run Magearna though.

[cyan smelt]

yeah ik

i'm saying for opponents who use that

[cyan smelt]

currently 7-1 with this team, it's pretty good so far

lost to a tera fairy landorus

[knotty mirage]

I have question can magearna survive getting hit by astral barrage and body press from zam at the same turn ?

[solid frigate]

both neutral hits is highly unlikely

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 801: Magearna

Types

Steel/Fairy

Abilities

Soul-Heart

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

80/95/115/130/115/65

Total

600

Other Formes

Magearna-Original

Sableye version 4.28.2

[solid frigate]

wait

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 888: Zacian-Crowned

Types

Fairy/Steel

Abilities

Intrepid Sword

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

92/150/115/80/115/148

Total

700

Base Species

Zacian

Sableye version 4.28.2

[knotty mirage]

Yeah i'm thinking of using caly s and tera ghost zamazenta too hard counter magearna scarfhilape final gambit trick room stuff

[solid frigate]

honestly if Zacian can’t live them both double up

I don’t think Magerena is gonna live that much without high bulk invest

[knotty mirage]

Ah okay so i guess i'm set then agains't those magearna team

[cyan smelt]

ok now i've lost a few

[stone trellis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2416405781-4gwcvybm0ki0tpv5y3i4dp5paghw29spw

[cyan smelt]

why didn't you protect caly-i? electric terrain would've ran out next turn

[stone trellis]

On the last turn, you mean?

[cyan smelt]

yes

[stone trellis]

I had just seen how much damage Drain Punch was doing to Miraidon.

[next stump]

no need to protect if they don’t have a spread move than can kill both

[stone trellis]

Yeah, exactly.

[stone trellis]

And there was no way for it to survive both the recoil from Life Orb and a Drain Punch from Hands.

[cyan smelt]

i think i need more defense investment on pecharunt, i lost to a caly-i earlier because i took too much damage

[stone trellis]

Hell, even without the Life Orb recoil, Drain Punch would do huge damage and there was no way for Miraidon to do equally as much.

[cyan smelt]

iron hands is so good

[stone trellis]

It's become kind of washed recently, but winning 12 regionals, 3 ICs and 2 Worlds is a generational performance.

[cyan smelt]

idk if pecharunt is bulky enough to put recover on

[jade dust]

Anyone wanna play some matches?

[stone trellis]

Reg J or Reg I?

[jade dust]

Or H

Either is fine

[stone trellis]

I'm shit at Reg H.

We should probably do Reg J or I to see how the mirror match pans out.

[jade dust]

Lets do a Bo3 in both J and I then

First J

[stone trellis]

My username is PaulGoodman777.

[jade dust]

Sent

Wait

[next stump]

post the match link here

[jade dust]

Send me the invite instead

[next stump]

i wanna watch

[jade dust]

I gotta check something quickly

shrekers13

[stone trellis]

Done.

[jade dust]

Didnt appear

Try again

[stone trellis]

It said "Challenge cancelled because they changed their username."

[jade dust]

Sure

Wtf?

Well lets try again

How do I share a battle?

[stone trellis]

I'll do it.

[jade dust]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen9vgc2025regj-2416415304

This I think?

@next stump

GLHF

[stone trellis]

GLHF

[jade dust]

Wow Im surprised Magearna lives that

[cyan smelt]

well played you two

[stone trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/packwatch-gif-22219180

[jade dust]

Alright next round

Its a best of 3 right?

[stone trellis]

If Zacian can live it, why can't Magearna?

I forgot to turn Bo3 on holy shit 💀

[jade dust]

Smh

[stone trellis]

We're only doing two more rounds of Reg J.

[jade dust]

Yes

[stone trellis]

We'll do proper Bo3 in Reg I.

So I won't turn Bo3 on now.

[cyan smelt]

how are these incins living electro drifts, they're making em bulky these days

[jade dust]

GLHF

[cyan smelt]

at least i'm not getting tilted with this team, i feel like when i lose it's because of misplays rather than problems with the team

[stone trellis]

Well played.

[jade dust]

1-1

well played yes

One more

Ggs, that isnt 0 speed Magearna

I can tell cuz it never moved last

[stone trellis]

My Magearna winning the Speed tie all those times was lucky as fuck.

[jade dust]

That was 0 speed?

[stone trellis]

Its Speed stat is 63, I just have godly luck like that.

[stone trellis]

Yep.

[jade dust]

Alright lets do reg I now

Bo3

[stone trellis]

Yeah, I turned it on this time.

[jade dust]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/game-bestof3-gen9vgc2025regi-2416424852

For any curious people

[cyan smelt]

man whenever i go to use tr on farig they just electro drift

[stone trellis]

Damn, I lost this badly.

[jade dust]

Bundle highly resists glacial lance and has high def so

Its good here

[stone trellis]

You'll win game 2.

[jade dust]

Pppttfffff

Fuck high horsepower

[stone trellis]

Can we just not do game 3 and pretend like you won the set?

[jade dust]

Nah lets do it

[cyan smelt]

i think i need snarl on miraidon

[stone trellis]

You'll win, Shrek.

[jade dust]

Gg

[stone trellis]

GG.

[jade dust]

You did a good attempt to bring that back

By protecting the last turn of electric terrain

[stone trellis]

Nah, the attempt was pretty shit.

[jade dust]

I mean if you havent done that it would had been a lost right there

I had a safe play in draco meteor Ogerpon and high horsepower caly

[stone trellis]

I still lost, so it doesn't matter that much.

[jade dust]

Well its better when the match was well played even if you lost

[fluid fiber]

Whats a good Reg H pokemon to use coaching on

[next stump]

dragonite

oh wait

do you mean, the pokemon clicking coaching

or the pokemon receiving the boost

[fluid fiber]

Receiving

[next stump]

dragonite

[stone trellis]

"Use Coaching on" is pretty clear.

[next stump]

I mean, I use Fake Out on my Incineroar. That can also mean you run it in your moveset

I think it's worth distinguishing

[fluid fiber]

Yeah that's valid

I was gonna use it on Ursa, but I think Blursa is a better fit for the team

[next stump]

Ursa is a tricky one because typically it wants to function in trick room and it's tough to angle coaching in there sometimes

[fluid fiber]

Only issue with this is that it gets Espeed off before any coaching boosts

[fluid fiber]

Ah but I up you one my friend

Works in or out of TR

[stone trellis]

Why run Eviolite?

Riolu's so frail that it just isn't worth it.

[fluid fiber]

Testing items rn. Almost always tends to live one hit with Eviolite so its about as good as sash

Was using sash on another slot

[next stump]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2416437441-ndy3eb3x8wvxlpiu13jxvgyjap6346rpw

people saying GG early and then losing is top 5 feelings in the world

[stone trellis]

Who's your TR setter and who's holding Sash?

[fluid fiber]

Oh it was an old build, starting a new team now

Haven't decided yet

[stone trellis]

What's the team right now?

[fluid fiber]

Was thinking P-2, coaching would guarantee the tera blast physical if I need it

[stone trellis]

Yeah, P-2 can be cracked.

[fluid fiber]

Plus defense boosting P2 is brutal

[stone trellis]

+2 Defense Pory is effectively at +4.

P-2 normally runs Tera Blast, Ice Beam, Trick Room and what else?

Protect?

[fluid fiber]

Recover

[chrome knot]

scale shot

[stone trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-writing-fire-his-writing-is-fire-is-this-fire-hold-up-gif-15400153686296022809

[fluid fiber]

I've also really liked Kingambit with a coaching partner

The dark type doesn't stop prankster coaching

[stone trellis]

On the same team as P-2 and Dnite?

[next stump]

the dark typing on kingambit? that wouldn’t matter for coaching

oh wist

I see what you’re saying

[fluid fiber]

Ignore EVs https://pokepast.es/29d92a219f87cb09

[shadow wind]

Dude I be saying gg after turn 1 because I think I lost

[stone trellis]

Pretty good.

[fluid fiber]

I would use reg Ursa here but I definitely need a SpA

Debating on the last slot tho

[next stump]

I got hit with the CTS cloak bundle special

[stone trellis]

I always say GG because I think I've lost and then my opponent always either
A) Performs a generational fumble or
B) I make the most godly play of all time

[chrome knot]

https://pokepast.es/ac85b843bd40caae try this lol

similar idea but is objectively better

[fluid fiber]

Also could swap feint or quick guard for fake out, but its nice to have pressure against prio + let my partner pokemon cosplay as Urshifu lol

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/have-at-thee-rat-jump-gif-3333922911057271749

[stone trellis]

The one problem I see here is the lack of Protect.

[fluid fiber]

Yeah I was thinking the same

[shadow wind]

Usually it’s the first one somehow

[fluid fiber]

I almost never click kotow so I'll probably swap that

[cyan smelt]

I'm trying to be more positive so I'm saying glhf and ggwp even when I lose

[fluid fiber]

Incin could use protect over F-Blitz or KO to help stall oit

[stone trellis]

Yeah, people always think "he will never click Glacial" and then Thundurus and Kyogre become a +1, neigh, +2.

[chrome knot]

do not

you need non priority dark stab

[fluid fiber]

Even for protect?

[chrome knot]

youd drop iron head or low kick for it

[stone trellis]

You can remove Low Kick.

[fluid fiber]

Oh actually yeah

[chrome knot]

4 attack gambit is for AV

[fluid fiber]

P2 and Ursa can cover fighting coverage (well Ursa is ground but close enough)

P2 can run protect over recover

Oh whats the EVs needed to swap physical or special for tera blast depending on the download boost

[chrome knot]

just make p2 modest

[stone trellis]

Or Quiet.

[chrome knot]

you want tera blast to be spatk regardless of the boost

[fluid fiber]

My thought was to have it go either since coaching can raise the tera blast if it starts going physical instead

[chrome knot]

for like vs gambit & vs arch, you want tera blast to always be special if they come in late and ur downloaded into phys atk as their stats are alot higher in phys def

[fluid fiber]

True

[chrome knot]

ive only ever coached p2 for the +def

[fluid fiber]

Whats a good other slot here https://pokepast.es/02041c25fc1b920b

[chrome knot]

amoonguss

[fluid fiber]

Oh and should Riolu run fake out

[chrome knot]

it should just be a sneasler imo lmao

[stone trellis]

You'll need to run 21 or 20 Attack EVs, max Special Attack and a Modest nature on P2 to ensure that even at +2 Attack, Tera Blast will remain special.

[fluid fiber]

Ill test both

[chrome knot]

riolu is just doing nothing after coaching

whereas sneasler actually threatens damage on board

[fluid fiber]

True

[stone trellis]

If you give it 0 Attack IVs (not EVs, sorry), then you only need to run 116 SpA and still be Modest.

Which is way more manageable, in my opinion.

[cyan smelt]

P2 the bane of my existence, that thing is so bulky

[chrome knot]

just a girl

[stone trellis]

But the problem is that you need P2 to be min Speed for Trick Room.

[chrome knot]

no u dontttt

[foggy lodge]

U dont

A lot of P2 are 31 speed

Marco used a bit of speed on P2 to make it outspeed stuff with tailwind

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 151: Mew

Type

Psychic

Abilities

Synchronize

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/100/100/100/100/100

Total

600

Sableye version 4.28.2

Pokémon No. 925: Maushold

Type

Normal

Abilities

Friend Guard, Cheek Pouch, Technician (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

74/75/70/65/75/111

Total

470

Other Formes

Maushold-Four

Sableye version 4.28.2

[real prairie]

any legs on tera normal pop bomb mew?

[bold geode]

Idk

[bold geode]

Emma

[chrome knot]

?

[real prairie]

don't think it could learn it thinking now

it only learns every TM, not every move, right?

[bold geode]

Hai stimky

[chrome knot]

all tms

[bold geode]

Think every TM

[chrome knot]

smeargle is all moves

[shadow wind]

I love seeing surging strikes Smeargle next to anger point primeape

[chrome knot]

@jade dust gg i cant believe ud let me get away w/ murder

[jade dust]

Wait we played?

[chrome knot]

mhmm

[jade dust]

Lol what was your team?

[chrome knot]

dnite sneas

where 3 turns in a row you'd just let me scale shot @ +2 into ape

[jade dust]

And goldengho?

[chrome knot]

yes

i WILL be playing ladder as if nobody has a brain now ngl

[foggy lodge]

Kimpoke sun is actually cool when you don't miss all your moves

[jade dust]

I was expecting tera normal exteme speed so thats why I didnt rage fist

[foggy lodge]

And I'm too accustomed to missing moves

[chrome knot]

we're in reg h

[jade dust]

Yes and this was used in reg g too

Cuz Fari is less a necessity

[chrome knot]

every dnite was defensive tera but ok

[jade dust]

Alright I'll keep that in mind

Why ground tho?

Steel would be better

[chrome knot]

ground stomping tantrum for arch

[jade dust]

Ah

[chrome knot]

nooo bc then ur weak to cc for no reason

[jade dust]

But you resist all of dragonites weaknesses

[chrome knot]

alolan ninetales

[jade dust]

Fairy, ice, rock, and dragon

steel resists all those

[chrome knot]

ur missing the point where i

do not care 😭

[foggy lodge]

Its really uncommon to tera dnite outside of avoiding scale shots lmao

[jade dust]

Alright do what you want

I was just saying my reasons

For a defensive tera anyway

[next stump]

Loveeee that Lunala/Mirai is on the downswing

still have PTSD

[solid frigate]

never thought that time i have so much PTSD on Grimmsnarl

[red willow]

where tornadus

are the caly zama teams switching from that now

[solid frigate]

honestly with Calyrex Shadow in the team

Tailwind is optional

[red willow]

I thought there was like decorate smeargle bleakwind tornadus shenanigans going on tho

in addition to astral barrage caly lol

[bold geode]

The dictator is dead?

Honestly if I had to choose between playing 20 CSR Zam mirrors or playing against one Mirai Nala
I'd choose the mirrors

[solid frigate]

i''d would be suprised if Pagos Mirai won worlds

[foggy lodge]

Finally

Fuck MiraiNala

I find it so boring

Unless its the CM Lunala with scarf Miraidon stuff

That's interesting

[stone trellis]

Why all the MiraiNala hate?

[foggy lodge]

Because it wins everything

Won milwaukee won NAIC almost won japan nats

Its all over the ladder on both showdown and cart

Almost won the rankeds season

[stone trellis]

Makes sense.

Why are people dropping it now?

It's objectively a good duo.

[foggy lodge]

Probably because Zama CSR variants that beat it

[stone trellis]

I will actually craah out if either Zama-CSR or MiraiNala win in Anaheim.

[foggy lodge]

Expect that to happen lol

Either Zama CSR/Mirainala/Mirai CIR will win worlds

[stone trellis]

I hope Mirai-CIR wins.

[next stump]

please be mirai/CIR 🙏

[foggy lodge]

Lovely❤️

[stone trellis]

Let the agenda be maintained.

[molten oasis]

That’s disgusting

So much incin

[chrome knot]

man if only there was a good role compression mon…

[molten oasis]

Ikr!

(Ik why it’s high usage it’s still gross lol

[serene sequoia]

hi does anyone have a good link where vgc doubles rental’s are ?

[next stump]

https://www.youtube.com/@jameswbaekpkmn

https://www.youtube.com/@CybertronVGC

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1axlwmzPA49rYkqXh7zHvAtSP-TKbM0ijGYBPRflLSWw/edit?gid=736919171#gid=736919171

first two links are youtube channels that regularly feature strong teams, 3rd is a constantly updated google spreadsheet with teams from every regulation

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2416559220

i'm dissapointed on people sometimes

[serene sequoia]

aye i appreciate that thankyou ! 🙌

[gentle crag]

ghostlygoro has given 1 Gen Rep to mlbd

[next stump]

you’re welcome 🙂 just FYI we are changing rulesets soon in case you didn’t know, so the strong teams will change

[serene sequoia]

you mean into regulation J right with mythicals ? i’m alr ev’ing some mythicals to make teams !

[gentle crag]

REGULATION J vs. REGULATION H BREAKDOWN FOR NEWCOMERS

From now until the end of August, we are currently in Regulation I. This ruleset allows for two restricted legendary pokemon. These are box art legendaries like Miraidon, Koraidon, Zacian, Zamazenta, etc. There's also DLC legendaries like Calyrex included there. This ruleset is currently playable on Pokemon Showdown and in game until August 31st.

From September 1st onwards, there will be TWO active formats. If you want to play in game battles, you will be playing Regulation J. Regulation J is similar to Regulation I, but it also allows for mythical pokemon to be used. These mythical pokemon will count as a restricted pokemon, so you can't use unlimited. But for example, you could use Arceus and Groudon if you wanted to. This ruleset is currently playable on Pokemon Showdown and will be playable in game starting September 1st

The other active format will be Regulation H, an older format that is coming back again. This format CANNOT be played in game on the ranked ladder, it will only be available through Pokemon Showdown and through tournaments that the community hosts. This Regulations bans ALL Legendary pokemon and all Paradox pokemon allowing for weaker pokemon and strategies to be viable. This will be the ruleset for all in person tournaments, including small local events. This ruleset is currently playable on Pokemon Showdown and will ONLY be playable in game through community hosted events and in person tournaments, NOT ranked battles

Want to play Regulation H but don't enjoy Showdown or in person tournaments? Here is how to find community hosted tournaments - https://play.limitlesstcg.com/tournaments/?game=VGC

mlbd (ID 197813560997314562)

[Embed Link](#competitive_discussion message) to #competitive_discussion

Command triggered by mlbd. Message from · Aug 1, 2025, 6:52 PM

[next stump]

here’s a breakdown

there will be two active regulations (kinda)

[serene sequoia]

ah i see that’s good to know ! i love showdown too so will deffo check that out 2, appreciate you !

[rustic mountain]

[jade dust]

@next stump @stone trellis God bless

MiraCalyice for worlds

Let it be Wolfey using them and winning

[next stump]

I’ll do my best to carry the archtype

[rustic mountain]

i feel like hell use csr or try and cope w/ that weird lunala korai team

[jade dust]

He lost 2 tourneys in a row with the cope Lunala Koraidon

I doubt he’ll use it in worlds again

Lunala was good with primal Groudon

Not Koraidon

Primal Groudon was much stronger

[rustic mountain]

yea exactly primal gdon was also in a class of its own

nd also b4 gen 8 and 9 restricteds

[jade dust]

We will see that beastiality again in champions

[next stump]

wolfey will have more prep than anyone at the tournament, no way he brings a team he’s not winning in practice with against the meta

[rustic mountain]

uhhhh idt thats the word u thought of using

[jade dust]

I will always find funny how primal Groudon has that massive attack yet it ran eruption

As fire stab

[foggy lodge]

lmfao

[foggy lodge]

fr

I don't think he will bring that team it's very weird

But I doubt it is perish

[next stump]

https://x.com/alpenseevg/status/1953129794003931571?s=46&t=fDxHQLlKCKU_ddfszOAZ6w

Alpensee eSports (@AlpenseeVG)

Worlds is just over a week away and what better way to prep than a dedicated Alpensee bootcamp! 🌊
@sdg_ryo , @Sela133VII and Choc got in some serious prep with support from @koll_paul, @13Yoshi37, @baked_vgc and Incineroar Jr. himself.
Now we‘re ready to make big moo-ves! 🐮

X · Aug 6, 2025, 4:23 PM

shit like this is so cool

[foggy lodge]

And I don't see the vision cloak Lunala personally lol

[jade dust]

Nah perish is impossible with Urshifu around

[foggy lodge]

Its unplayable

Not because of Urshifu because of everything lol

Scarf Miraidon alone destroys perish trap

[jade dust]

Volt switch to be specific too

[rustic mountain]

perish seems bad yea

[jade dust]

Even with specs

[rustic mountain]

mirai is the least of perish's worries, csr just blows goth up

u want ur shadow tag user to have some staying power, the pivoting from mirai is annoying sure but its the fact u cant actually stay on the field too long w/ so many powerful mons rn is the bigger issue

[jade dust]

A lot of pivots move as well

U turn from Rilla

From incin too or parting shot

Volt switch

[foggy lodge]

https://fixupx.com/AzazeL_the_God/status/1952849596100792711

Justin Carris (@AzazeL_the_God)

I've been preaching this since 2023!
︀︀
︀︀-1st person to win a major with a hard trick room team: MDB
︀︀-Best LilliKoal player of all time? Ashton
︀︀-Best Dozo players? Carson/ Chuppa
︀︀
︀︀The gimmicks RARELY win & when they do its in the hands of good pilots not the MU fisherman🧵

Quoting Jeudy ➡️ Pokemon Pocket (@SoulSurVGC)
︀
I think the biggest pitfall vgc players fall into is forcing themselves to conform to a playstyle(“i must be a balance player”) or team(psyspam hard tr only).
︀︀
︀︀these players would be much better if they focused on growing rather than being afraid to lose

**💬 5 🔁 7 ❤️ 169 👁️ 19.2K **

FixupX · Aug 5, 2025, 9:50 PM

[rustic mountain]

i saw that earlier

[jade dust]

A very safe play is lead mira and Fari and trick room bolt switch

[rustic mountain]

hes right tho, mu fishing does only get u so far

[jade dust]

Wolfey used perish mostly for ice rider cuz how tanky it is but that won’t work with Miraidon being its most common pair

[rustic mountain]

what team r u talkin about

[jade dust]

This exactly. Scream tail could protect to scout and try to disable but in trick room, specs miraidon moves first

Also goth would take massive damage from volt switch

That then caly ice can easily finish off

[rustic mountain]

mans just typing out every thought to himself

[foggy lodge]

Lmao

[jade dust]

Lol

[foggy lodge]

All that to just say that volt switch glacial lance wins you the game turn 1

[jade dust]

Basically

Im just reasoning in the possible plays and how they lose anyway

[rustic mountain]

what perish variant r we even talking about

or u i should say lol

[jade dust]

Goth, scream, Koraidon

[rustic mountain]

oh the reg g one

[jade dust]

Idk what else would fit in

What 2nd restricted

[rustic mountain]

y r we talkin about a reg g team that hasnt even been repurposed

[jade dust]

Arceus? Lmfao

Wait

[foggy lodge]

Arceus learns perish song

[jade dust]

But reg J only

[rustic mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-cry-one-piece-mid-mid-piece-one-mid-gif-3938984731501782050
me with reg j

[dense latch]

mid is generous

[jade dust]

I mean if there was a perish trap team in reg I, must have Goth and scream tail

And Koraidon

[rustic mountain]

i wanted to have bad but only found this gif w/ mid so i took it

[dense latch]

lmao fair enough

[rustic mountain]

yoooooo

[jade dust]

It’s not that bad, mainly darkrai teams are toxic

[rustic mountain]

wait whyd u delete

[dense latch]

i didnt mean to send it lmao i was just looking at them

[rustic mountain]

oh hahahah

[dense latch]

https://tenor.com/view/rayleigh-one-piece-crying-gif-7583256620608062087

[rustic mountain]

u found one that was better id say

yea

[dense latch]

for future reg j discourse

[rustic mountain]

clutch

[foggy lodge]

Me when reg A reg B reg C reg D reg E reg F reg G reg H reg I and reg J

[rustic mountain]

uve liked 0 formats?

[jade dust]

Reg J is fun with Magearna

[foggy lodge]

Nah I only started playing in reg F lol

The only one I would say I hate is reg I

[rustic mountain]

so uve had 2 good formats

[foggy lodge]

Yes

I've liked most of them

My favourite was reg G

[rustic mountain]

reg h and f r the good formats for any1 wondering

[solid frigate]

Reg F is peak SV VGC imo

[rustic mountain]

reg g 1 was ok, 2 sucked

[foggy lodge]

imo reg G > reg F > reg H >>>>>> reg I

[rustic mountain]

wow

[dense latch]

wish i started in reg f

[rustic mountain]

everything wrong except i being last

[solid frigate]

they don't have to rerun Reg G honestly

They cooked too much to make it go bad-

[dense latch]

took me a bit to get used to reg h when i had only played reg g

[foggy lodge]

Yeh

[rustic mountain]

reg h>reg f>reg g 1 > reg i > reg g 2

[jade dust]

Archaludon is very busted in reg h

[foggy lodge]

I feel like I basically started in reg G because before in reg F I would only play cart ladder

[jade dust]

Nothing can get rid of it

[rustic mountain]

its very strong i wouldnt say busted

[dense latch]

it’s amazing yes but it’s not unbeatable

[rustic mountain]

plenty of counters came up for it as the meta progressed

[jade dust]

Like?

[rustic mountain]

haze dnite for one, a9 chomp pin

[next stump]

reg F was soooooo fun

[jade dust]

What did ninetales do?

[dense latch]

weather control, hits after tera grass which chomp forces

[rustic mountain]

ice damage was good pre tera and also post tera if they were grass to get outta the ground weakness

[jade dust]

What about tera fairy?

Wasn’t that the most common?

[solid frigate]

Comp chat's Reg F tournament when?

[dense latch]

hosting some tours between the chat would be fun

[rustic mountain]

ice still was nice into it but also fairy just got dunked on by other things like dire claw sneasler. u dont even have to take my word for it, look at the results for arch throughout reg h, it was always around but never fully dominant

[dense latch]

there were a ton of good arch teras

[molten oasis]

Fairy tera arch was bad into dengo

[dense latch]

bug, fairy, grass, some ran fighting i think

[solid frigate]

i'm down doing it

And Archaludon don't feels like a nuisance to fight compare to reg H

[jade dust]

Yeah but resists dengo naturally

[molten oasis]

Archaludon is crazy good but idt it’s broken

[jade dust]

Ape was also there

[molten oasis]

Sneasler isn’t necessarily either it’s mostly dire claw

[jade dust]

Ape with bulk up and beat up

[molten oasis]

Is not broken

[jade dust]

Not broken but very strong

[molten oasis]

Yes

Calyrex with Tera is broken

[solid frigate]

Archaludon is nowhere near that annoying to fight in reg F

[molten oasis]

Shifu is broken lol

[rustic mountain]

reg h is pretty open even w/ those mons where they are very strong and centralizing in a way, but not enough where they completely roll over the format w/ their strength

[solid frigate]

i havve to agree on this one

[molten oasis]

I think people hate on reg h too much

[rustic mountain]

reg h is awesome

[molten oasis]

including myself

[rustic mountain]

i jus wish we had it on cart ladder too

[dense latch]

like you can slot in a cloak to manage dire claw sneasler a bit better

cloak volc my goat

[molten oasis]

I have come around, it’s so much better to play over hell reg j

[solid frigate]

Reg H is fine and honestly enjoyable in Bo3

Bo1 is barely tolerable

[rustic mountain]

reg h bo1 is fantastic

[jade dust]

I actually made an Archaludon ape team but Idk what evs to run. I would like some help with that pls

[molten oasis]

Bo1 reg h is fine

You just find the funny things every so often

[jade dust]

https://pokepast.es/4195a7a70f81e23a

[molten oasis]

But most things are like, normal or their the niche thing that sucks lol

[jade dust]

What are the best evs for well

[rustic mountain]

u have so much more room for mistakes in a format like reg h, even if im caught off guard its rare im in a completely unwinnable situation

[jade dust]

Everything in this team

[dense latch]

you need to choose a maus set you can’t really get the best of both worlds unless you do wide lens

[molten oasis]

Getting caught off guard cuz “Tera ghost specs astral barrage” or something like that is awful

[dense latch]

pop bomb is gonna be insanely inconsistent

[solid frigate]

i feel that when unless its an archaludon

[molten oasis]

Cuz it’s an instant loss

Not the Archa thing

[rustic mountain]

restricted formats are super costly, one mistake could mean game

[solid frigate]

hold my rocky helmet Amogus (Assume it doesn't havve Tera Grass or Goggles)

[rustic mountain]

can mean that sometimes in lower power ones but not usually

[jade dust]

I want to max archaludon's def

[molten oasis]

Reg f was the perfect balance of that imo

[jade dust]

mause is for support

[dense latch]

just use beat up

[rustic mountain]

if u get caught off by arch thats just on u tbh

[molten oasis]

Like you could make mistakes that you’d have room to get out of

But not much, and reg f felt balanced with Tera too

[dense latch]

you get 4 consistent hits rather than pop bomb which is just gambling without wide lens

[molten oasis]

Like idt Tera felt overwhelming to deal with in reg f at all

[solid frigate]

i didn't don't worry

[molten oasis]

In a restricted format you watch the caly or Mirai Tera and it puts on a ton of pressure

[rustic mountain]

reg f skirted a fine line, there were def some instances t1 t2 in almost felt like i either couldnt lose or they couldnt but overall it was pretty consistent in being more balanced

[molten oasis]

Yeah

Reg B was pretty good too

[rustic mountain]

honestly u take urshifu outta reg f i might feel differently as well

[molten oasis]

C was fun as well

Shifu was likely that one thing yeah

[solid frigate]

Reg F Archaludon @ Assault Vest
Ability: Stamina
Level: 50
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 220 HP / 4 Def / 44 SpA / 180 SpD / 60 Spe
Modest Nature

• Electro Shot
• Dragon Pulse
• Body Press
• Heavy Slam

Reg H Archaludon @ Assault Vest
Ability: Stamina
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 212 HP / 4 Def / 44 SpA / 124 SpD / 124 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Electro Shot
• Draco Meteor
• Flash Cannon
• Body Press

I kinda just run these sets for Archaludon (I forgot its my first mon to ever use in comp seriously)

[molten oasis]

There were a lot of viable strategies in reg f

[rustic mountain]

one of the things for sure, its easily the most game breaking mon in my eyes so itll always take precedent

[molten oasis]

Bolt was also just, a restricted lol

Like bolt is a disgusting pokemon in those formats

I love bolt

[solid frigate]

its just Miraidon Lite but somehow still strong enough to be a restricted level legendary in terms of power

[foggy lodge]

Calm mind Bolt was crazy

[rustic mountain]

yea its very good idt restricted tho it often could feel like it if u got enough cms up

[molten oasis]

It felt like one that’s what I’m saying

[solid frigate]

remember we have a debate over Flutter Mane,Bolt and Hands about who is the best

[molten oasis]

Bloodmoon could feel that way by damage output too

[foggy lodge]

Remember when Latias was actually used

[molten oasis]

I still think it’s bolt personally but like

[rustic mountain]

not inherently tho is what im saying, more like once u had 2 cms up which is conditional

[solid frigate]

Latias is something else

[molten oasis]

It’s probably flutter or hands, leaning on hands

[molten oasis]

That’s fair

[rustic mountain]

otherwise its just a very good legend

[jade dust]

Why so much speed?

[molten oasis]

I think lando I getting play was also cool

[rustic mountain]

i think wen ppl say something feels restricted, it often just means it can skate the balance sometimes on what its able to accomplish in certain instances. whereas restricteds usually break that balance by creating those favorable conditions themselves outright

[molten oasis]

As much as I hated it at the time, special ground types are lit

[solid frigate]

i want to play Archaludon faster than Peli

But thats my thing

Reg F spread should be better imo

[molten oasis]

Yeah that’s fair

[solid frigate]

We love Lando I

https://tenor.com/view/landorus-landlos-tornadus-tornelos-thundurus-gif-7628534825919503536

[molten oasis]

I think H just has like

[solid frigate]

bloodmoon and thats it

[molten oasis]

Ursas arch and sneasler which definitely feel very strong

[molten oasis]

P2 Ursa is still pretty good

[jade dust]

@molten oasis wanna play some reg h matches?

[rustic mountain]

i was watching some best type videos from wolfey and was on the flying one and he had lando #1 and was like either t or i is good neither are good at the same time which i found kinda funny

[jade dust]

reg h

[molten oasis]

Nope

[solid frigate]

i mean special attacking ground types tho

[molten oasis]

It’s accurate tho

Lando’s always relevant regardless of form lol

[rustic mountain]

i know thats why its funny, neither can be good at the same time

[jade dust]

I meant h, that was typos

[rustic mountain]

drago only reg j rn

[molten oasis]

Don’t spread rumors!

[jade dust]

Lol

[solid frigate]

Lando is like

Aight Therian Form is not cutting out or me,Time to become buff men

[jade dust]

Then j sure

[molten oasis]

No reg j is the definition of hell

[dull ibex]

drago any edits I should make to the team?

[jade dust]

Then H

[molten oasis]

Also I’m about to do smth else so I’m not playing any matches

[rustic mountain]

ik its the least likely ud play rn

[jade dust]

Ah ok

[rustic mountain]

so i had to pick it

[jade dust]

@solid frigate wanna play a bo3?

Or anyone else

[molten oasis]

Paste?

[stone trellis]

Finally, the agenda is becoming more popular.

[dull ibex]

https://pokepast.es/8f6efc0fd99f9818

[rustic mountain]

#1046572041421197352 id try there we usually dont queue battles in the chat here

[dull ibex]

how it is on cart minus moon

tera dragon on zacian is mighty tempting

[solid frigate]

man

i wish we can go back to reg F

[rustic mountain]

id take a, b, c, f or h on cart

e was ok ig

[stone trellis]

This is entirely unrelated, but I feel like Miraidon-CIR should be called GlacialDrift.

[rustic mountain]

not really any good duo nicknames r there

[solid frigate]

nah

Snowmobile

[dull ibex]

SwordFish is good

[rustic mountain]

relevant meta duo names

but yea that is a good one

[dull ibex]

how dare you Zacian Kyogre is very meta relevant /j

[rustic mountain]

haha

i initially thought itd b better

[dull ibex]

its strong

[rustic mountain]

its ok

[dull ibex]

I used it into masterball atleast

[stone trellis]

Zama-CSR should be called King's Shield, prove me wrong.

[solid frigate]

Shadow Shield is right there-

the pun is right there

[stone trellis]

King's Shield goes harder, but sure.

[dull ibex]

what are all the meta relevant duos?

[rustic mountain]

well yea its good enough for that, overall its meh in comparison to a handful of other duos like csr/zama, lunala'mirai, cir/mirai, korai/csr, zama/mirai

[chrome knot]

sounds taaackyyyy

[dull ibex]

I should korai shadow rider

[stone trellis]

@dull ibex These are the relevant ones.

[chrome knot]

i jus think shortening names of the mons is just easier

csr zam or like mirai cir or korai nala

[dull ibex]

ZacZama is very meta relevant trust

[stone trellis]

Korai-CSR should be called Ghost Rider.

[chrome knot]

like u instantly know what im on abt

[rustic mountain]

but nicknames are cool

[chrome knot]

nicknames on specific mons in game are cool!

[stone trellis]

Tell me that it doesn't go hard.

[chrome knot]

it doesn’t 🔥

[dull ibex]

tree co do you think another duo would make for easier games?

[rustic mountain]

any of what i listed above

[dull ibex]

yeah

[stone trellis]

You will burn along with every person who runs Sableye-Darkrai.

[rustic mountain]

even like kyogre/cir is better imo

[dull ibex]

I mean would switching to those duos improve my games

over swordfish

[chrome knot]

who are u talking to

[stone trellis]

You.

[chrome knot]

what?

[rustic mountain]

yes

[dull ibex]

ig i am in higher ish level of play now being in masterball

so I should get another duo

[rustic mountain]

u can still run swordfish and get good/high results w/ it in mball idt its a huge hill to climb but ud definitely have an easier team opting into a stronger duo

[dull ibex]

CSR/torn/chi-yu/koraidon/amoongus/fluttermane

is that a good enough six?

[solid frigate]

ig thats fine

[dull ibex]

if there better lmk

[rustic mountain]

https://pokepast.es/5db090aa7a261e2d

this was the highest placing csr/korai at naic

[dull ibex]

I prefer hyperoffense if thats not HO

[next stump]

switching teams semi often can hamper your development

[dull ibex]

i've stuck with sword for a little while tbf

ig a few days isn't very long

[rustic mountain]

i think it can be good to switch it up, get more accustomed to other playstyles and mons

i wouldnt lock into hard on only playing ho

ur doing urself a disservice

[solid frigate]

or just switching Archetype in general

[dull ibex]

I just don't enjoy balance that much

[next stump]

yeah but no offense at all intended Red, but you seem like you’re a little unsure about your abilities. If you switch teams, you will struggle for a decent bit as you pick up a new archtype. More worth to close out the Reg with the same team and keep building fundamentals

[dull ibex]

none taken

I do think shifu needs a better item or spread

and three water move kyogre seems a little meh

this six was anti meta so maybe thats why

IM SO STUPID

I HAD A ROARING MOON THIS WHOLE TIME

[rustic mountain]

[dull ibex]

[solid frigate]

probably run Kyogre with Origin Pulse,Water Spout/Hydro Pump,Thunder,Protect if its a Zac Ogre team

[dull ibex]

@molten oasis do you want your moon back?

[solid frigate]

cuz you genuinely don't need Ice Beam if you are running ZacOgre Moon

[molten oasis]

Nah man keep it

[rustic mountain]

drago obviously has scarlet

[dull ibex]

thats fair

ill trade it to someone who needs it

[rustic mountain]

i made that up idk if he does

[molten oasis]

No I just have a shiny moon I use instead

[rustic mountain]

🫡

always respect the shiny flex

[dull ibex]

alright well i can play with the proper paradox now

I named it roaring mid lmao

[solid frigate]

bruh lmao

[dull ibex]

do you think I should be jolly ursh over adamant?

[stone trellis]

It depends.

[solid frigate]

adamant imo

But Jolly is usefull for Band sets or outspeeding anything you want to outspeed beyond shadow rider

[dull ibex]

wow moon is strong lmao

[stone trellis]

Me when the Pokemon with base 139 Attack hits hard:

[dull ibex]

real

[next stump]

1 week until I am free from the shackles of dual restricted

[dull ibex]

I like dual restricted formats now that I have some level of winning

[fluid fiber]

Two teams I've been messing with. Top one is the more serious of the two

https://pokepast.es/661d8b954c9c8078

https://pokepast.es/60accb98a6438ee8

Bottom one is pretty cool though

Espartha having a 80 bp acid spray is crazy work

[next stump]

I like the top team, small thing but recover will be generally more useful than protect on P2

and I also think that you’ll probably get more use out of coaching than feint on sneasler with a really physical oriented team

[fluid fiber]

Yeah I've been using both, leaning a bit towards protect to get around fake out though

[fluid fiber]

True, but feint puts so much more pressure in TR

Super hard to stall it out

[next stump]

isn’t it hard to have sneasler out under TR?

that seems like a pretty uncommon board state

maybe parting shot with Incin into it, but you’re gonna normally want Kingambit/Ursa with Porygon

if you have coaching, all of a sudden something like coaching + Kowtow is a very scary lead for many teams

[chrome knot]

coaching scale shot

my beloved…

[next stump]

you’re totally within your right to ignore these suggestions, I just tend to have the teambuilding mindset of “What will I end up clicking more often in a variety of matches?”. Feint Sneasler is probably super strong in specific scenarios where there is one or two turns of trick room left and you can get a KO that wins the game, but a different move like Fake Out/Coaching (in my opinion) will be clicked more often and generally win you more games. Same applies with Recover vs. Protect

[jade dust]

What are the evs for sinistcha? For reg H

[fluid fiber]

That's true, I'll definitely test coaching and fake out as well

I appreciate the suggestions! I'm really getting into attending events after worlds with the goal to hit day 2 in a regional - so I'm really trying to get super comfortable with the team to start

[foggy lodge]

I pray for you

[stone trellis]

May you get top 4 or a finals placement one day.

[next stump]

thank you sir

[gentle crag]

mlbd has given 1 Gen Rep to maxihd

[foggy lodge]

I used this Bonnie (Sinistcha) @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Hospitality
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Dark
EVs: 252 HP / 108 Def / 4 SpA / 140 SpD / 4 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Trick Room
• Matcha Gotcha
• Life Dew
• Rage Powder

But this was when I didn't have Incin so maybe you could make it more bulky on the special side

I still wouldn't change it tho it has good calcs into Annihilape

[next stump]

super great goal to set yourself. Do you know what regional(s) you’re going to yet?

[foggy lodge]

And Gambit

[fluid fiber]

Not quite yet, I'm out in AZ currently

[stone trellis]

AZ?

[next stump]

Is Vegas a close ish trip for you?

[jade dust]

Arizona

Yes Vegas is close to Arizona

I live here after all

[fluid fiber]

Definitely doable

When is the regional in Vegas?

[chrome knot]

Nov14-16

first regional of the new format

[next stump]

i’ll be hitting the blackjack tables after dropping

[stone trellis]

My condolences.

[jade dust]

I live in Las Vegas

Not Arizona

[stone trellis]

That place must be hotter than Carmine at this time of the year.

[fluid fiber]

117 baby

[jade dust]

Yes Nevada is hot but Arizona is hotter

[chrome knot]

i think gonna skip pittsburgh

and do milwaukee and toronto

[fluid fiber]

Hmm so if I took that friday off work I could get to Vegas and back pretty easy

I'll definitely check it out, it'll be reg H right

[chrome knot]

yea

[stone trellis]

Yep.

I'd love to see any of the people on this server win a regional, to be honest.

[chrome knot]

@next stump ur up my friend

[next stump]

not sure which way will be true but HOME says through November

[chrome knot]

itll be reg h

i thoughtttt it said TILL november but it is THROUGH november

[next stump]

It’s weird because Serebii does say “until November”

but I think it’ll be until the end of November and they’re just being weird with the wording

[molten oasis]

Oh it is through November

Cool

[next stump]

100% recommend going, first regional in that general area for the last few years

[stone trellis]

Only 11 days left until Worlds.

[jade dust]

Fucking sneasler worthless piece of shit

Jump off a cliff fucking coward

[stone trellis]

"RANDY FUCKING SNEASLER PIECE OF SHIT!"

"CAUSE YOU HAVE EVERYTHING. YOUR CHARACTER HAS EVERYTHING. AND THEY CATER TO YOU!"

[chrome knot]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/GwpiHMuXUAAgFx7.gif

[stone trellis]

"Oh, it's not good enough, let's give him Fake Out."

"Oh, it's not good enough, let's give him Coaching."

[jade dust]

I prefer reg g and i where snealser is garbage

[stone trellis]

I prefer Reg G and I because it allows me to run my GOAT and maintain the agenda.

[fluid fiber]

I like Reg G because Terapagos

[stone trellis]

I think Terapagos is aggressively mid.

Both in terms of design and in terms of how good it is.

[jade dust]

Once tera is gone, will be worse than Mewtwo

[fluid fiber]

I love it bro

It's so cute (not babee form tho)

[stone trellis]

At least Mewtwo has the virtue of great Special Attack, great Speed and a lot of coverage.

Let's take a look at the five things which make a restricted good, shall we?

(This is for Terapagos without the Stellar form)

• Does it hit hard? Not really
• Is it fast? No
• Is its typing good? Nah, pure Normal is pretty mediocre
• Does it have a good ability? Hell yeah, Tera Shell is cracked (not literally)
• Is its movepool good? Definitely.

So that's 2/5.

Mewtwo checks three of the boxes.

[jade dust]

Regular Terapagos has 105 sp atk

Thats very bad for restricted standards

[fluid fiber]

But

It's a cute turtle

And has two cool abilities

[jade dust]

But that wont make it viable without tera

rn its falling off even

Cuz its forced to tera

Or be super cope

Removing terrains and weather is bad for synergy as well

[chrome knot]

Menace & an unbreakable wall w/ Calm Mind(its standard set)

IMMUNE to Astral Barrage and walls CSR pretty well

its speed tier is pretty good actually for its bulk^^

[next stump]

https://x.com/panomics/status/1953143452155183565?s=46&t=fDxHQLlKCKU_ddfszOAZ6w

Clifton Dalgard (@panomics)

The top Juniors and Seniors are better players than the large majority of Masters.

X · Aug 6, 2025, 5:17 PM

hot take

I agree with seniors but IDK about juniors

[molten oasis]

That’s crazy

But the young learn faster

[next stump]

it might be more true for the TCG

but I don’t think I’ve ever seen a junior VGC player win more than a round at locals

https://x.com/davidpartvgc/status/1952825207586209954?s=46&t=fDxHQLlKCKU_ddfszOAZ6w

fun guessing game, without cheating guess how old Eric Rios is

David Partington (@DavidPartVGC)

Countdown to World's - 10 Names You Can't Ignore
#⃣🔟 – Eric Rios (@riopaser)
📕 Achievements: Eric is a veteran VGC player with multiple World Championships qualifications, regional wins, and is the 2022 European International Champion.

📈 This season: Eric's skills and beard

X · Aug 5, 2025, 8:13 PM

let me send a picture

[stone trellis]

"Unbreakable wall" my ass.

Let's see what that "unbreakable wall" does the moment it gets chipped and has to face an Urshifu.

[chrome knot]

HMMM I WONDER WHAT UNBREAKABLE WALL WITH CALM MIND MEANS

I WONNDDERRR IF THIS APPLIES TO PHYS ATTACKERS, HMMMMM MAYBE TERAPAGOS ONE FLAW??? MAYBE LETS PUT ZAMAZENTA IN THERE ASWELLLL

like yup! you are very smart

[stone trellis]

It's not unbreakable if physical attackers can break it.

"Unbreakable special wall" would've made your point much clearer.

[chrome knot]

i WONDER what calm mind implies

[stone trellis]

Calm down, dude.

I'm just slandering Terapagos and being stupid.

[fluid fiber]

I've got so much work to do lol

[stone trellis]

I didn't insult you personally.

[fluid fiber]

Gotta get better at making decisions

[chrome knot]

brainrot pov

[stone trellis]

Its Speed tier might be good, but I don't think any sane man would define base 85 as "fast".

[next stump]

Number 1 tip I have is to save your replays and go over them either by yourself or with another person after the fact. If you want, a lot of players use something called PSARS to track their replays/stats and I can share the link to it

[stone trellis]

Base 85 is upper middling.

It's actually funny how base 85 is objectively better than base 90 or base 95.

[fluid fiber]

That'd be amazing

[stone trellis]

Make Groudon and Kyogre base 85s, I swear they'll be fire.

[stone trellis]

Share it here since I'd also like to use that.

[next stump]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tY6i84arq2KXlwovC3BXiZc0GJwgqjVFknJBl2WhBUQ/copy?usp=sharing

If either of you need help setting it up let me know

got the name wrong, it’s PASRS

[bold geode]

Maybe a couple like Kevin Han last season

But not a lot

[solid frigate]

also wtf happened to Pagos Slander-

[stone trellis]

What do you mean?

[solid frigate]

ik pagos is mid but its not THAT MID

[stone trellis]

That is why it's called "slander" and not "accurate description".

[solid frigate]

atp i rather slander on Kyurem

[stone trellis]

Why?

Kyurem's never even won a Regiona- oh wait, neither has Pagos.

[solid frigate]

cuz its ass (Kyurem White is fine) and people love Kblack in singles (Cuz no Intimidate)

Also no consistent Ice Type PHYSICAL Attack? fuck you tbh

[stone trellis]

Yeah, that sucks.

[solid frigate]

NAIC in Junior Division,Japan Nationals:

[stone trellis]

Don't KB users have to rely on Icicle Spear in singles?

[solid frigate]

ummm 2nd in Indianapolis and last year NAIC

[stone trellis]

Neither of the latter two are wins.

Anyway, the Japan Nats one and the Junior Division on NAIC are actually pretty impressive.

I never look at results for Seniors or Juniors, so I have to apologise for my mistake.

[solid frigate]

i'm counting aas Ws cuz Pagos is on the bottom half of the 8 best restricteds anyway

Japan nationals is won my Master Divisions with Meteor Beam Pagos

[stone trellis]

What pisses me off is that it has a lot going for it.

Its Stellar form ticks four of the five boxes for a good restricted and Tera Starstorm is just a great move after Terastallizing.

That base 105 Attack really does nothing for it, honestly.

[solid frigate]

eh i mean you can in a Cost of Stellar Pagos has a Weaker Starstorm for Hitting everything neutral

Its a good trade dgmw, but lot to be desired and you 100% need whole team to support it,thats why CM pagos is generally better

[stone trellis]

I guess being a pure Normal type in a meta where there's so many Fighting types and having no option to Tera out of the weakness is also a bit of an issue.

Every good restricted (other than CSR and Pagos, but CSR is CSR) also provides some form of support toward their team, either directly through moves like Trick Room on CIR or indirectly through abilities like Drought and Drizzle.

[next stump]

https://x.com/playpokemon/status/1953199440988094835?s=46&t=fDxHQLlKCKU_ddfszOAZ6w

Play! Pokémon (@playpokemon)

Still looking to pick up a ticket to Worlds? 👀
A final wave of single day Saturday & Sunday Spectator Passes for #PokemonWorlds will become available on Thursday, 8/7!

Check back tomorrow at 2PM PT when the new wave becomes available:
➡️ https://t.co/aYaIXTYj6t

X · Aug 6, 2025, 9:00 PM

[fluid fiber]

https://pokepast.es/4af8b547cfdd7256

Can't figure out how to finish out the team. Been using Whimsicott but idk if its the right choice

Also looking for good EV spreads

[next stump]

https://x.com/vgcvictoryroad/status/1953202696229442003?s=46&t=fDxHQLlKCKU_ddfszOAZ6w

Victory Road VGC (@VGCVictoryRoad)

Watch some battles from the 🗺️ 2024 World Championships as highlight matches are showcased! 🔙🏆 #PlayPokemon

🎮 VGC Regulation Set G
📖 All info: https://t.co/zQxTmJHalj

🟣 Live NOW on https://t.co/km9HsfJR9E

X · Aug 6, 2025, 9:13 PM

[foggy lodge]

https://youtu.be/z_dxnn7cN9I?si=Hsa1CzzBrgLswlQf

[rustic mountain]

reg h >

guess i gta reverse engineer my rain team too

[solid frigate]

Reg F>Reg G>Reg H

I just love reg F too much

[solid frigate]

still doing Archaludon as well? me too buddy

[rustic mountain]

to start atleast, yea

[solid frigate]

i still have to fix the EVs for it

[bold geode]

I just came back, wtf is this

Mewtwo will never be ballin

[rustic mountain]

mega mewtwo is mid too right

[solid frigate]

@rustic mountain i'm giving Double Dragon a chance (Kingdra Archaludon)

[bold geode]

Idfk

[foggy lodge]

Morris con perish...nooo...

Had to fight an archa rain team with Whimsicott and tera blast dengo while playing kim sun

I don't know how I came up with a like to win that horrendous MU lmao

[bold geode]

Tf is Kim Sun?

[foggy lodge]

Marco's team

[bold geode]

Bro doesn't say Zard Sun

[foggy lodge]

Boring

[bold geode]

Like Kim is any more entertaining

You're basically like "oh you call that a Kyogre team instead of Dave Rain? I'm snoring here"

[bold geode]

My daily worry for Tree

[foggy lodge]

You just don't know kim

Kim poke is a cracked teambuilder

[bold geode]

I bet you don't know Dave either huh

[rustic mountain]

perish team wolfey used?

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/TeraSquareOffl/status/1847993736615383064

テラスクエア【週末ダブルバトル大会】 (@TeraSquare...

第45回チャンピオンはキム！！
Congratulations!!
(@kim0227poke )

X · Oct 20, 2024, 1:30 PM

[rustic mountain]

so aggressive

[fluid fiber]

https://pokepast.es/dd73333b98fdcb83 Alright, feeling a bit more comfortable now

[bold geode]

YEAH WHAT YOU GONNA DO ABOUT IT /j

[shadow wind]

I’m so glad I was able to just steal one of Maya’s teams

Non restricted team building is not my forte

[solid frigate]

i'm not using Perish

Its just normal rain team double dragon

[solid frigate]

3/6

No Perish

i just used Incin Kingdra Archa while adding Peli Sinistcha and Grimm

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2416793174-9y4k50525ifws7wuvojyuwgdyfvfebfpw

[chrome knot]

LOL

like its so obvious it hurts

[solid frigate]

yeah lmao

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2416798457-34pn8s7gj19phyo5lnpb4kljd8i8qsdpw

Man this is my most messy gameplay

[dull ibex]

I think im going to swap around items and stuff

I want clear smog on mushroom

and adding sacred sword to zacian for zama

[boreal abyss]

Anyone got an extra magearna 😭

[fluid fiber]

Literally same boat 😭 tryna get one

[dull ibex]

Bear (Urshifu-Rapid-Strike) @ Mystic Water
Ability: Unseen Fist
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 140 HP / 252 Atk / 116 SpD
Adamant Nature

• Surging Strikes
• Aqua Jet
• Taunt
• Detect

going to use this bulk

[bold geode]

Clear Smog is fake AF

Also what is that bulk for

[dull ibex]

no idea

its the pikalytics spread

[bold geode]

That doesn't look right at all
I have no idea who is using that spread

[dull ibex]

It's the most popular spread with bulk

And torrents spread wasn't living what it should

[bold geode]

Cuz Shifu doesn't really run bulk rn on many teams

Especially on Kyogre teams, they usually go Scarf

[dull ibex]

the og anti meta team wants mustic

mystic

[dull ibex]

EVs: 60 HP / 140 Atk / 20 Def / 196 SpD / 92 Spe

this spread im using instead

Miracle Seed Rillaboom Glide and Tclap from Bolt it lives

Got it from r/vgc

[solid frigate]

the only reason i run bulk on that urshifu cuz it was suppose to be Terapagos Team Urshifu which i have to invest on EVs

[dull ibex]

I want taunt

and i cant run sash

so bulk is the answer

[solid frigate]

i mean if you want you can run roaring moon with Taunt

[dull ibex]

nah im okay with bulk ursh

[rustic mountain]

weird

[foggy lodge]

Kingdra is totally outclassed by Basculegion outside of perish btw

https://youtu.be/O0A_IMyDkPE?si=V-Y3AjutjqRzjfIF

🙏

[solid frigate]

yeah but i think i did Basc too much lets me real

i just wanna try stuff

[cyan smelt]

what does kingdra even do

[shadow wind]

Chrome dome Charizard

[solid frigate]

swift Swim Sweeper

[chrome knot]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2416877606-fcqs9kecla3ubpxjfykg1i68dyjhdqrpw

lolz

[dull ibex]

what matchups is shifu good into?

found out amoongus and shifu are my supplimental pieces

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/Smogolem/status/1952898283677852067

Golurk (@Smogolem)

What other pokemon feel like this

X · Aug 6, 2025, 1:03 AM

[dense latch]

https://youtu.be/O0A_IMyDkPE?si=zcvh05a6VB9lK-Ai @foggy lodge seems like an interesting watch

[cyan smelt]

he linked it earlier lmao

[dense latch]

lmao

how did i not see that

[cyan smelt]

it's harder to play competitive pokemon if you're from oceania

[dense latch]

i went to check to see if he did and I missed it anyways

[foggy lodge]

lol

But I actually haven't watched it

[rustic mountain]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2416895239-wu2wea741ewxj7cdp3bhere1gvfwwpnpw
first game back in months, i played bad they played bad but a wins a win (even on absolute low ladder )

[jade dust]

I meant as an unstoppable beast lol

Primal Groudon is even stronger than gen 8 Zacian imo

[bold geode]

Tree I hate to say it
I think I suck at low power formats

[cyan smelt]

do you guys think espeon is viable for reg h?

[bold geode]

Sing it with me

https://tenor.com/view/no-hellno-gif-11427369307834711508

[dense latch]

there's so many better eforce users with other typings

[cyan smelt]

i was thinking d-gleam as well though

[dense latch]

delphox armarouge hatterene

there's three different speed tiers for you pick your poison

[molten oasis]

damn bro