competitive_discussion

[rustic mountain]

so yea

[sharp escarp]

You guys talking about zacian

?

[rustic mountain]

yea

[sharp escarp]

didn’t he get nerfed and now his brother is good?

[rustic mountain]

yep

[foggy lodge]

btw how do we buff Groudon and Kyogre without saying "give them their primals back"

I think origin and pblades should be 100% accurate on their weathers

[sharp escarp]

“Give them mega”

[rustic mountain]

i think they are fine as is, both have been really good other then the current format

[foggy lodge]

Fair

[rustic mountain]

even w/o primals

[foggy lodge]

I think both are underrated tbh

Groudon is way better than I joke it is

[rustic mountain]

i think kyogre is still solid, its like right outside the top 5

and groudons useable its just like borderline top 10

[sharp escarp]

Groudon btw

[foggy lodge]

An answer to Zam CSR and Miraidon all in the same pokemon

[rustic mountain]

u did post that already but also i feel like kyogre would be better suited to be questioning water rankings over groudon

[foggy lodge]

Tho yeah I would give pblades and origin that mechanic just so astral barrage and glacial lance don't feel like a spit to their face lol

[molten oasis]

Groudon is that?

How?

[sharp escarp]

Eh

[foggy lodge]

Yes believe me

AV Groudon

[rustic mountain]

im confused but im too tired to care to ask

[molten oasis]

Uhhhh, I guess

[sharp escarp]

I watch zayavr and he has a skit over Kyogre rooting for a basketball team and them and groudon arguing

[foggy lodge]

Believe me Groudon is good

[rustic mountain]

r u conners alt?

[foggy lodge]

I think the japanese will cook something good with Groudon for worlds

[sharp escarp]

I was gonna say lol

[foggy lodge]

Maybe not worlds winning team but it will have something

[rustic mountain]

nah

theyll b like

1 groudon in day 2 tops

[sharp escarp]

When are we gonna see gigantamax Tera Z mega primal origin groudon and kyogre

[rustic mountain]

champions

[sharp escarp]

When I first saw Koraidon I thought he kinda looked like groudon

I mean there both red

And look like dinosaurs

[rustic mountain]

literally looks nothing like groudon apart from sharing red as a color

[sharp escarp]

Well koraidon IS a dinosaur

If ammongus is a dinosaur so is koraidon

[rustic mountain]

[foggy lodge]

Groudon is not even a dinosaur is just a lizard

They are reptiles

[molten oasis]

Lizard whale and snake

[sharp escarp]

Groudon and kyogre arguing is just a giant rock lizard and a fish ending the world

[molten oasis]

Is a whale a reptile?

Like I’d assume not

[sharp escarp]

No

[foggy lodge]

No

[molten oasis]

Figured

[foggy lodge]

Whales are more like us than to reptiles lol

They are mammals

[molten oasis]

Ah

[foggy lodge]

But Kyogre is more based on an orca than in a whale

[sharp escarp]

I used to thing man time evolves into kyogre

[sharp escarp]

Shiny garchomp

[rustic mountain]

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/cf/24/9b/cf249b4e3e276368e83aa0eec1bb255c.jpg

[molten oasis]

lmao

[sharp escarp]

I feel like I deserve a refund for sword and shield

[rustic mountain]

i liked swsh

[molten oasis]

same

[sharp escarp]

Warlord isn’t its normal size when you don’t it

[foggy lodge]

i hated swsh

[sharp escarp]

Sword and shield were fine

But imagine average sized wailord

Gigantamaxing

[foggy lodge]

I would sell that game but my family gifted it to me in christmas long ago so I would feel bad by selling it lol

It has memories

[rustic mountain]

u should

feel bad that is

[sharp escarp]

Give it to me I’ll buy it

[gentle crag]

capybara4308 (ID 1137895308848791592)

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I feel like I deserve a refund for sword and shield

Command triggered by treeco.. Message from · Jul 30, 2025, 5:04 AM

[rustic mountain]

this u?

[molten oasis]

lmfao

[foggy lodge]

lmfao

[sharp escarp]

lol

Still

[rustic mountain]

honestly, only bad thing about swsh was urshifu

[sharp escarp]

WHAT

[molten oasis]

i think swsh were fun, i like the dlc's

[sharp escarp]

I LOVE THAT

SURE I DIDNT NEED GIGANTAMAX BUT STILL

[molten oasis]

valid, i think calyrex's we're a bad thing as well

[foggy lodge]

Crown Tundra was very cool ngl

[molten oasis]

i also just think that like

[sharp escarp]

I like the galarian birds

[molten oasis]

nerf unseen fist to do less damage through protect at least

[sharp escarp]

[foggy lodge]

Lowkey replaying Crown Tundra was what made me not absolutely despise Calyrex

[rustic mountain]

i dont find they break the game the same way urshi does, i think ur just too tera horse pilled atm which is fair but im thinking of them in the overall sense b4 tera and post tera

[molten oasis]

people argue CSR breaks the game, which, idk how true that is, and even then i still dont like them

[sharp escarp]

The funniest thing in crown tundra was. Calerex saying “try to catch me in this battle” at the mountain

Little did he know I had a master ball

[rustic mountain]

also there may not be pp max in champions which opens the door for stuff like astral barrage to be 5 pp and pressure or calculated switches and protects can run that dry

[stone trellis]

CSR does NOT break the game.

[sharp escarp]

I mean caly and urshifu are broken so is regileki

[rustic mountain]

yea

as strong as it is even now

[sharp escarp]

It’s just op

[stone trellis]

Regieleki is kind of shit now.

[molten oasis]

thats all ive heard i never said i agree or disagreed with it

[foggy lodge]

Its the example of how to not design a pokemon tho

[rustic mountain]

kind of? leki sucks now

[sharp escarp]

Wasn’t he so fast he could breach trick room

[rustic mountain]

u fully agree and support it ur the president of the csr is broken club

[foggy lodge]

Super min maxed and by it's pure nature it can force mons to play in an specific way or just consistently check them even in the teambuilder

[stone trellis]

Yeah, but you need to get to +3 and have Tailwind up to get there if I can recall.

[sharp escarp]

I will join the club of csr is op

[foggy lodge]

But I think that's something that happend with every restricted so lol

[sharp escarp]

Really?

[molten oasis]

i think CSR is very broken

[foggy lodge]

Just CSR is the most clear example imo

[molten oasis]

but i never explicitly said it breaks the game like urshifu does

man shut up lemme hate on CSR

[sharp escarp]

Urshifu and caly are op that’s it

[molten oasis]

shifu breaks a major fundamental of vgc being protect

theres counterplay to shifu but it still breaks a core component of the game

[stone trellis]

Eleki at max Speed reaches 277 Speed. You need to reach 1908 in order to breach Trick Room.

[sharp escarp]

Not to mention surge strikes and wicked blow always crits

[sharp escarp]

Oh still

[shadow wind]

I'm like a parasite

[rustic mountain]

nd there is the major difference on why one is truly broken and why one is simply just broken in terms of strength

[shadow wind]

Groudon is a symbiote

[rustic mountain]

strength also encompassing its snowball potential

[stone trellis]

Did someone mention snowballs?

[sharp escarp]

Then why doesn’t he have his own movie

[molten oasis]

yes

[shadow wind]

Too nonchalant

[rustic mountain]

i also stand by ppl placing csr way higher on a scale of being actually broken with tera involved

[shadow wind]

A whole movie? He don't need all that

[rustic mountain]

if u remove that it really comes back down to earth tenfold

[sharp escarp]

Bro it’s not even his

How about this we all agree calerex is one of the strongest pokemon

[rustic mountain]

it should be its a restricted

[sharp escarp]

Specifically shadow rider calerex

[shadow wind]

Is the grass green?

[sharp escarp]

Urshifu?

[rustic mountain]

huh?

csr

[shadow wind]

Kyurem moment

[sharp escarp]

I thought it was

[rustic mountain]

lmao yea the balance amongst restricteds is rough

[molten oasis]

true, but the hatred for me has gone quite far

[rustic mountain]

urshifu is a legendary pokemon, restricteds are box legends

[molten oasis]

as it makes my life miserable

[stone trellis]

Ice Rider is stronger than everything but Shadow Rider and Mirai, so you can count both forms without specifying.

[sharp escarp]

Ooh

[rustic mountain]

different bst/power level

[sharp escarp]

I’ve seen way more shadow rider than ice

[molten oasis]

tera also breaks mirai

[stone trellis]

Yeah, not everyone has an agenda to maintain.

[molten oasis]

most of the top restricteds are strong i feel cuz of tera

[shadow wind]

Although the power levels can be quite similar or even in the non restricteds favour sometimes

[sharp escarp]

I’m guessing it’s cuz of imtimadate lowering ice rider

[shadow wind]

100%

[molten oasis]

clam

[sharp escarp]

Tera is op you can completely flip the tables

[rustic mountain]

i really wish restricteds couldnt tera

[molten oasis]

true, would feel better to play this format

[rustic mountain]

yea

[molten oasis]

zacian actually outputs offensive pressure

now everything it does threaten turns into a fucking fire type

[stone trellis]

Back in like, 2019, could you use a Mega Evolution and a Z-move in the same battle?

[rustic mountain]

u play roughing koraidon for 15%:

[molten oasis]

fr lmao

[sharp escarp]

Kinda like how zacian zamazenta and eternatus could not dynamic

[rustic mountain]

yea some lore shit w/ like legends cant sync up with pagos's terastalize mechanic for some random reason

[stone trellis]

Imagine if Eternatus could go Eternamax in normal fights.

[sharp escarp]

Terapagos is good torchoal

[stone trellis]

Torkoal is a banger.

[sharp escarp]

Isn’t he a trick room setter?

[stone trellis]

If this thing had Groudon's stats, it would be better than Groudon.

[sharp escarp]

Basically other than the that one water type all turtle pokemon are good

[stone trellis]

It's a TR sweeper, which is quite different.

[rustic mountain]

there was 1 format in swsh it got announced early, and there was some other sd site that had the format on it, but it was bugged and ppl could use eternamax and ud run into some ppl just running 6 of them for like the first day

was just instant forfeit if u were using a normal team

[sharp escarp]

But I thought he just couldn’t g-max at all

[rustic mountain]

it wasnt in game it was on secondary showdown site

[sharp escarp]

Ooh

[rustic mountain]

and the code was bugged

for like a day

[sharp escarp]

Completely fair

Balanced game👍

6 of these

[rustic mountain]

i stand by the fact eternatus shouldve had tie in to the ultra beasts

[stone trellis]

The funniest part is that Eternatus is actually weaker when it goes Eternamax because its Special Attack goes from 145 to 125.

[sharp escarp]

Wait actually

[stone trellis]

What invasive species is bro even supposed to be?

[sharp escarp]

Wait isn’t it lore that eternatus and some other giants fhought arceus?

[sharp escarp]

He came from a meteor kinda like deoxys

[rustic mountain]

wen ur getting 255 hp and 250 sp def and def who cares

[stone trellis]

Hot take, but I think that Rayquaza would've whooped Eternatus' ASS back in the day, no dogs needed.

[rustic mountain]

one of swshs downfalls is not really giving great lore on any of its legends

[stone trellis]

Yeah.

[sharp escarp]

Legends eternatus

[rustic mountain]

outside kinda zama/zacian i guess but even then

[sharp escarp]

When I first heard legends z-a

I thought they were gonna make a game for each letter💀

Because I started like last year

[stone trellis]

Like, how strong even are the dogs?

City level?

[sharp escarp]

I mean them and some other people kinda ended DOOMS DAY

still peony was an idiot

[stone trellis]

That tells me nothing.

How strong was Eternatus?

[sharp escarp]

Bro they saved the world cause arceus didn’t want to do his job

[sharp escarp]

Well we don’t know but prob as strong as when we fought him so not very strong

But still it was 4 vs 1

[shadow wind]

I just gave some guy 76 elo

[stone trellis]

?

[shadow wind]

Feels bad man

[stone trellis]

How?

[rustic mountain]

stop playing potential format

[shadow wind]

I was 1517 elo and they were 1000 and this format rewards risky moves too much

[shadow wind]

But it goes away tomorrow

[rustic mountain]

it seems super volatile

[molten oasis]

[rustic mountain]

ur playin it too?

[shadow wind]

It is

[molten oasis]

im fucking bored man

[shadow wind]

But you're also talking to the guy that plays Groudon

[molten oasis]

this format is NOT fun

[rustic mountain]

hahah yea

to both of that

[shadow wind]

Wait you playin full potential?

[sharp escarp]

Welp I’m getting off

[molten oasis]

no but i play a theortical format with megas and zmoves and tera, and every mon

[shadow wind]

Sounds fun

[molten oasis]

it is

[sharp escarp]

I hope I don’t get jumpscared by darkrai

[rustic mountain]

that sounds like too much

[molten oasis]

its hella overwhelming but, im enjoying the craft

[rustic mountain]

fair

[stone trellis]

I swear, hearing Rayquaza be pronounced as "Ray-quay-za" makes me want to harm somebody.

[shadow wind]

I get 90% of my enjoyment from teambuilding

[rustic mountain]

the other 10% is groudon missing pblades in games

[molten oasis]

I'm also just praying the next format is something new

that isnt restricted format+mythicals

[stone trellis]

I'm praying that it's that.

[molten oasis]

why?

reg i sucks

[shadow wind]

Nah that's 5%

[stone trellis]

Afterwards, we can have a rerun of Reg H.

[molten oasis]

yk

worlds in reg h, that could be fun

[stone trellis]

Why would you derive enjoyment from that?

[rustic mountain]

idk as conner he runs groudon

[rustic mountain]

can guarantee u it wont be mythicals or no tera cuz irl tours

[shadow wind]

This sucks

[molten oasis]

ah

[stone trellis]

He has a point.

[molten oasis]

reg h+paradox is my hope

talon tusk could be real again

[shadow wind]

You got it wrong, Groudon runs me

[rustic mountain]

thats kinda it outside rehashing old formats

[molten oasis]

yeah

[stone trellis]

Isn't that just Reg B or whatever with some of the DLC Pokemon?

[molten oasis]

or no tera format, which isnt likely

[rustic mountain]

yea

[molten oasis]

yes.

[shadow wind]

Dude full potential has no tera

I'm realizing I belong in no tera formats

But I will continue playing VGC cause it's the only real format

[rustic mountain]

no gimmicks is fun ill say that

series 10 swsh was peak

[shadow wind]

Wish I played it

[rustic mountain]

bulk up groudon was actually valid, u wouldve liked it

[molten oasis]

honestly

[shadow wind]

Don't tell me of these times

[molten oasis]

tera is 10x better in lower power formats

I think it's more fun as a gimmick in reg h

[rustic mountain]

its like any gimmick ,itll always feel more manageable in a lower level format

[molten oasis]

yeah

[rustic mountain]

i get they like the flashiness of it for viewers but to me it should be left strictly to gameplay

like story mode stuff

[stone trellis]

Even Dynamax?

[molten oasis]

i think dynamax sucks but i also played it for a few weeks in restricted

[stone trellis]

When do you even use that in the game's story?

[rustic mountain]

otherwise if u gta have it, dont let the strongest mons also have access

but id prefer just straight up no gimmicks across the board

[rustic mountain]

? u can dmax like every battle and definitely every gym ur gna wanna at some point

theres one part of the story u have to subdue a bunch of dmax mons w/ piers and leon

or no piers and hop

[stone trellis]

So why are so many people complaining that you rarely get to use it? Are Pokemon fans stupid?

[rustic mountain]

pokemon fans complain about everything

[shadow wind]

Well I think I'm done for now

Literally just improved my elo by .2

[rustic mountain]

if u get #1 ill use groudon for a week

[shadow wind]

Dude #1 would be 1600

I'm getting 6 elo a game

[rustic mountain]

hahahah

im mostly kidding but damn thats a huge jump

[shadow wind]

Almost 40 ahead of #2

I'm at the wall

[rustic mountain]

hey

1599 is not 1600 u lied to me

[shadow wind]

But I would need 1600 for #1

Cause they have a higher GXE

[rustic mountain]

oh tru

[shadow wind]

I don't know if that's how it actually works but that's how I'm thinking it works

[rustic mountain]

yea

[shadow wind]

I think I'm happy with #9

[rustic mountain]

it is how it works

[shadow wind]

For a guy who doesn't play singles

Eh maybe not

Who knows how it works

[rustic mountain]

weird

[shadow wind]

Yeah

Also my 74 looks so pitiful there 😭

Oh yeah also I'm house sitting for 2 weeks starting tomorrow so guess who'll be grinding showdown !

[rustic mountain]

only thing i can think is decay on the 178 guy and the other ppl ranked/rated up while that/after that took place

[shadow wind]

Or finally beating Xenoblade X, it's one of the 2

[shadow wind]

Probably that yeah

I'm very happy with that account though

[rustic mountain]

otherwise idk how theyd weigh it

yea top 10 is cool

[shadow wind]

Oh I meant the VGC one

The other one is also cool but 74 is way higher than I normally have

Usually sitting at borderline 70

[rustic mountain]

i hit like 1800s in randbats earlier this year

[shadow wind]

Dude

[rustic mountain]

that was fun

[shadow wind]

I've been talking to Matin Moradi for the past while just cause he used Groudon

Dude is a monster at randbats

[rustic mountain]

a tru monster at ranbats is mdb

90%+

[shadow wind]

Oh yeah that dude is also nuts

But also 2300 is unimaginable

[rustic mountain]

87% is insane lol

[shadow wind]

Dude I know

[rustic mountain]

think my peak was like 73 or 74%

[shadow wind]

I'm truly awful at randbats

[rustic mountain]

i cant really play singles for long periods, the games are way too long

[shadow wind]

Actually that's not even true

[rustic mountain]

stop lying

[shadow wind]

I hit 80% in randbats

But it was like 1600 I think

I'll find the screenshot

[rustic mountain]

still solid

but also u use groudon so ur used to be at a disadvantage, randbats is perfect for u

jkin

[shadow wind]

Most based alt I had

Only played on it at school

But yeah 1622 80.2% isn't half bad

[rustic mountain]

nah not at all

[shadow wind]

I think that account is now like 1400 70 GXE

But it was never registered so I think someone else played on it

[rustic mountain]

yea i tanked out of 1800s down to 1600s

[shadow wind]

Cause I don't remember tanking it

[rustic mountain]

u did

[shadow wind]

😔

I wouldn't be shocked

[rustic mountain]

u never registered it? howd u get elo/rank then

[shadow wind]

Just do /rank

You can do that to literally anyone

And it shows their games played and GXE

[rustic mountain]

no like u said u didnt register the account

[shadow wind]

Oh yeah

[rustic mountain]

so howd it track ur elo and what not, idt it does that if u dont register

[shadow wind]

It isn't registered, just checked

Anyone can log into it

[waxen dock]

I dont play rand bats

[rustic mountain]

so i guess it just doesnt register u on the ladder then

[shadow wind]

Yeah probably not

Yeah nah

No ladder info

[waxen dock]

I think it does

[shadow wind]

But it has the GXE and elo

Wait

Maybe it's cause I'm not T500

I actually think every time you make a new name/account it saves all the info

[waxen dock]

I was in the top 500 in my alt and my name did show up and i think i was unregistered at the time

[shadow wind]

Yeah

[rustic mountain]

weird

wtf does unregistered entail then

[shadow wind]

Registering only saves a password I guess

[rustic mountain]

[shadow wind]

It's kinda weird

[rustic mountain]

yea

guess i just misunderstood this whole time

[waxen dock]

I just realised my alt elo in bo1 is 1657 and my main is 1659

[shadow wind]

Aura

[rustic mountain]

ive had so many alts my alts have become mains

[shadow wind]

I just counted and I have 14 accounts on showdown

[rustic mountain]

https://media1.tenor.com/m/nnI83p9QJAIAAAAd/piccolo-aura.gif

goddamnit

[shadow wind]

Epic embed fail

https://tenor.com/view/piccolo-dbz-dragon-ball-piccolo-standing-on-tower-tower-gif-13558229454457057953

[rustic mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/piccolo-aura-aura-farming-piccolo-kick-dbz-gif-11417254932190864386

[shadow wind]

I love piccolo

Almost blundered my life away there

[rustic mountain]

idk why discord sometimes works one way then sometimes it doesnt embed and then it works the other way which sometimes doesnt like come on lmao

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/piccolo-piccolo-being-held-back-piccolo-tweaking-piccolo-held-back-dragon-ball-gif-570644723604683178

[shadow wind]

Yeah it's weird

Nah Cell is goated though

[rustic mountain]

yea

good villian

[stone trellis]

I have a question.

[shadow wind]

Man I did not cook on the wordle today

[stone trellis]

How many fights has Vegeta won ever since his introduction?

[shadow wind]

He's just

Perfect...

[rustic mountain]

haha this arc was weird

idt its even canon

[molten oasis]

ofc its not lol

[rustic mountain]

in general or since being a z fighter

[molten oasis]

im still early in dbz but there's been a pattern of filler being like

[stone trellis]

Since he joined the Z Fighters.

[molten oasis]

long arcs which is annoying

[shadow wind]

I have never watched DBZ in my life

I really need to though

[rustic mountain]

ur crazy

[shadow wind]

I have a lot I need to watch to be fair

[rustic mountain]

use a site that tells u which is filler

[molten oasis]

I do.

[shadow wind]

Currently on Hajime no Ippo

[molten oasis]

its still annoying lol

[rustic mountain]

oh ok, i mean yea anime pacing for dbz isnt great tbh

dragonball is good tho did u start there?

[molten oasis]

i watched dressrosa

i'll live

[molten oasis]

stared on dbz

[rustic mountain]

damn

shouldve started w/ dragonball

u dont really get it the same way just jumping into dbz

[molten oasis]

I was literally told that i could just start on dbz

[rustic mountain]

whoever said that is lame

[molten oasis]

lol

[rustic mountain]

im a huge dragonball fan

dbz is cool but it kinda gets wonky especially the power systems

[shadow wind]

Has anyone watched Kill la Kill?

[rustic mountain]

but it also leads up and ties into dbz

[rustic mountain]

nah

[molten oasis]

i've sure hesitated and said no to it

[shadow wind]

Completely valid responses

Just needed to see the type of crowd I was workin with here

[rustic mountain]

?

[shadow wind]

I think that was the first anime I remember watching fully through

[rustic mountain]

wats ur fav anime

[molten oasis]

well the mc is wearing like, nothing

i'm not into stuff like that

[shadow wind]

Yeah it's a weird one I won't lie

[molten oasis]

I say as i watch one piece and nami exists

[rustic mountain]

r u caught up

[shadow wind]

Yeah but at least Nami's powers don't get stronger the more naked she is 😭

[molten oasis]

no but i need to do a binge

[molten oasis]

WHAT

[shadow wind]

😔

It's like that because of like confidence in herself and getting rid of self doubt and is expressed through that

Like I said, it's weird

[shadow wind]

Also to answer this probably One Punch Man

[stone trellis]

Ah, One Piece. The anime that inspired me to become a CIR-Mirai truther.

[molten oasis]

what?

[shadow wind]

Murata makes some of the greatest pieces of art I've ever seen in a manga panel

Like this is insane

[rustic mountain]

where r u

[rustic mountain]

and then theres the web comic

[molten oasis]

||right before Kizaru vs Luffy||

[shadow wind]

Don't bring that up

[rustic mountain]

also conner if u want insanely breathtaking art read berserk

also an incredible story

[shadow wind]

At least the manga is pretty, unlike Demon Slayer

[rustic mountain]

ahh ok not too far off

[shadow wind]

I think my buddy just got all of it so I might need to borrow them

[rustic mountain]

atleast anime wise

[molten oasis]

yeah, i watched a bit after it restarted but ended up wanting to just binge

i think i find the anime more enjoyable thay way

[rustic mountain]

manga wise, u have no idea how much shit has happened

[shadow wind]

But first I need to finish Ippo

It's been fire so far

[rustic mountain]

yea fair enough, i like the week to week manga release for it, its cool experiencing everything in the moment/real time and having discussions and reactions with every1

[molten oasis]

thats fair

[rustic mountain]

i started anime for it tho and ill always keep up with it on that side too

sometimes i let eps pile up just so i have a bit of it to watch

and its great seeing the panels brought to life

[shadow wind]

Tree I got a pokemon question

[rustic mountain]

ok

[shadow wind]

How do I make this team better into Smeargle Rilla

https://pokepast.es/431029483ef54644

"Get rid of Groudon"

[rustic mountain]

u know ive been on like a 2month hiatus right?

[shadow wind]

Yeah but maybe that'll give a new perspective

[rustic mountain]

w/ mirai/volc and incin i feel like u have the tools

[shadow wind]

I feel like it usually comes down to sleep turns which I don't like relying on

[rustic mountain]

if they r switching in rilla to spore u its beyond passive

i wouldnt reconstruct my team for that specifically

[shadow wind]

Hmm

Maybe I do need to just find better lines

[rustic mountain]

or just like fake out blow up smeargle t1

[shadow wind]

That's not a bad idea

I almost never lead Incin I need to get more comfortable with that mon

[stone trellis]

Maintaining the Ice Rider agenda is our utmost priority.

[rustic mountain]

incins usually slower then rilla especially ur 0 speed one, u can also swap it to mirai and do w/e else with ur other mon if u expect rilla swap + spore or even just spore

[molten oasis]

nah

[shadow wind]

I love 0 speed Incin

[stone trellis]

It's my utmost priority, at least.

[molten oasis]

my priority in vgc is escaping reg i

I made zacian work fine so im done lol

[rustic mountain]

dude what thats like half of its benefit, t1 pressure u can exert to then subvert to something else (manually swap into something better as they play around the idea of incin remaining on the field). unless its just better to keep in then u just ball out and do w/e feels best for

[shadow wind]

Yeah

Especially with AV

[rustic mountain]

or like the multitude of other options it has

[shadow wind]

U turn to break sash 🙏

[rustic mountain]

right

[shadow wind]

The only time u turn is better than pshot

[rustic mountain]

that nd like, blocking clam stuff if they swap on ur pshot target

[shadow wind]

Oh true

I'm actually messing with the current team a lot

I never gave specs Miraidon a real try

[rustic mountain]

yes the broken mon thats won a bunch is strong

[shadow wind]

I always went tera electric specs

But then I remembered how awesome Flutter mane Groudon was

But now I have a different kind of Flutter

[rustic mountain]

ngl i was hoping champions was gna b post worlds

[shadow wind]

Is champions even going to be good?

[rustic mountain]

now we have sv until like 2026 is

idk but id rather not play sv for another 6 months

or more

[shadow wind]

You and me both

[rustic mountain]

unless we get no tera

[shadow wind]

No tera would be elite

[rustic mountain]

then im playing till the format is no more

[shadow wind]

🙏

Give me Reg H but with Groudon

Then we're all good

Craziest thing is that people would still use Pelipper over him

[stone trellis]

Maybe because Pelipper offers support and deals damage while Groudon barely supports anything and deals pitiful damage?

[shadow wind]

It wouldn’t be pitiful it was Reg H

And lowkey Groudon does hit hard

Against a lot of mons he has a flare blitz

[stone trellis]

Groudon learns FB?

[shadow wind]

What part of “against a lot of” did you miss

If he had blitz I would’ve said he had flare blitz into every mon

[stone trellis]

Oh, you meant 120 BP Heat Crash.

[formal grove]

omds can someone pls give me a good team im so sick of losing

[solid frigate]

what are you even using anyway

[formal grove]

idk i cant get anything to work

[solid frigate]

if you want you can go into Labmaus and search for a team

[formal grove]

whats that

[solid frigate]

basically a website with Tournament teams

[next stump]

do you play single or double battles

[lofty tartan]

A good team will get you a little bit of the way but looking into good resources will help you learn what you're doing

[real prairie]

order they popped up when i type @ lol

[stone trellis]

Okay, and?

[chrome knot]

<@&663761167176433665>

[strange juniper]

ty

[gentle crag]

🔨 Banned 1088422351412142182 indefinitely

[stark kindle]

YOU DIDNT DDAY

[solid frigate]

lol

[woven pelican]

welcome to comp chat, today we got bots

...again

[strange juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/shaggy-wasnt-me-not-me-gif-4930192

[solid frigate]

man

[woven pelican]

this truly is feelsbadman isn't it

[solid frigate]

Kinda

[real prairie]

just using OP conversation as an excuse to share it

[bold geode]

Link or no link this time

[bold geode]

Mods, do the shiggy wiggy

[woven pelican]

nah this time it was just images

[short quiver]

so like i have a kubfu from Home

but i cant send it to scarlet/violet 😕

[next stump]

Is it from pokemon go by chance?

[short quiver]

yea

[next stump]

you need to register it in your pokedex before you can transfer it into the game, 99% sure

[short quiver]

but like

[next stump]

that just means you need to touch trade one with someone here

[short quiver]

if i already evolved the lubfu in game to urshifu dark how can i evolve this one to water in the same game

[woven pelican]

you can get a kubfu in the dlc for sv, that will help you register it in your game first then you can transfer your pogo kubfu in

[next stump]

transfer the kubfu in, take it to the port marketplace, and buy a water scroll there

[short quiver]

i am not doing allat 😭

[woven pelican]

after you get your ingame kubfu, go to where the auctions are held, you can get the evo items for kubfu there and evolve the dlc kubfu

you may need to wait for the npc to auction it tho

[short quiver]

im in sword shield rn 😑

im not going through the whole thing of waiting for the guy to give me the location of kubfu in SV

[woven pelican]

don't see how that helps with getting you the kubfu into sv specifically but sure ig

[next stump]

don't you want to battle with an urshifu in SV?

your options are touch trade one with someone to get the pokedex unlock or catch it through the blueberry quests

[short quiver]

sighhhhhh

the issue with the blueberry guy is its complete RNG what legendary he gives me

[woven pelican]

you can just do the quests, kubfu is a solo quest reward

[next stump]

yeah kubfu is one of the easiest ones to get

[woven pelican]

plus you can reroll quests to get easier and faster ones

[next stump]

I think it's 10 solo quests

[woven pelican]

so it's not entirely hard to get

[next stump]

and then just look up the location on google and catch him

max 1 hour

[short quiver]

then i should already have it i think

but i dont

ive done at least 60 solo quests

i have white kyurem+more

[woven pelican]

what treats do you have right now then

[next stump]

and you've talked to snacksworth and gone through the dialogue?

[short quiver]

articuno latios motres raikou

[bold geode]

I MISSED IMAGES FUUUUUUUUU

[short quiver]

and i already have both parts of white kyurem

[woven pelican]

because it's definitely only 10 solo quests

[short quiver]

so why dont i have it

[woven pelican]

look through your treats

[short quiver]

i just did

[woven pelican]

are you looking for kubfu or urshifu treats

[short quiver]

^^^

these are all i have rn

[woven pelican]

take an image of your key items menu

sorry but I'm having a hard time believing you have all those but not kubfu
Especially when you got the 3 birds already

[next stump]

is there any chance you've already caught the kubfu in that save? and it's somewhere else?

[short quiver]

believe the effing picture then

[next stump]

or already evolved?

it's one of the first legendaries you earn through the DLC so something is wrong here

[short quiver]

then i would have either registered and the one from go would be able to be transferred in, no?

[woven pelican]

if they've already caught the kubfu then they shouldn't have a problem with transferring the kubfu in

which started this whole thing

[next stump]

ah true

[woven pelican]

okay so you need to do 10 solo quests for a chance to get kubfu apparently, it's not guaranteed

so just keep doing quests and you'll get the treat

[short quiver]

like i said

complete RNG

[woven pelican]

keep going then

[short quiver]

i hate this game sometimes

[next stump]

luckily you only need two kubfus for the entirety of your VGC career

[woven pelican]

mhm

[short quiver]

and i already have one

and will hopefully get a second shortly

[woven pelican]

iirc the solo quest treats go all the way up to 200, then you'll need to get the group quests to get the others(rayquaza, kyurem and necrozma, and then the other version's exclusives)

so if you've done at least 200 solo quests you've definitely gotten a kubfu treat by then

[short quiver]

i despise this game

[woven pelican]

tbf the solo quests go by really quick

[woven pelican]

teehee

[misty helm]

How much better will aurorus be with the changes to snow warning

Maybe if assault vest was equipped it wouldn’t be so easily taken out

[short quiver]

i got the kubfu treat

[solid frigate]

time to go to the waterfall

[short quiver]

they had to make my beloved dino an ice rock

with 2 quad weaknesses almost every team is gonna have

[solid frigate]

its still bad even with the buffs i belive

[left bobcat]

🐠

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 699: Aurorus

Types

Rock/Ice

Abilities

Refrigerate, Snow Warning (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

123/77/72/99/92/58

Total

521

Sableye version 4.28.2

[solid frigate]

wdym 99 SpA-

[short quiver]

its physical def is awful

[solid frigate]

oh no 72 is still salvageable in Snow

but the Special attack stat

that is just horrible in modern standpoint

[short quiver]

make it a support

it gets thunder wave and stuff

[solid frigate]

I mean

[tiny karma]

Aurorus's moveset:

Physical Moves

Aqua Tail, Avalanche, Body Slam, Bulldoze, Dragon Tail, Earthquake, Facade, Frustration, Giga Impact, Icicle Spear, Iron Head, Iron Tail, Outrage, Return, Rock Blast, Rock Slide, Rock Smash, Rock Throw, Rock Tomb, Secret Power, Stone Edge, Take Down, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Ancient Power, Aurora Beam, Blizzard, Charge Beam, Dark Pulse, Discharge, Dream Eater, Earth Power, Echoed Voice, Flash Cannon, Freeze-Dry, Frost Breath, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Hyper Voice, Ice Beam, Icy Wind, Meteor Beam, Mirror Coat, Mud Shot, Powder Snow, Psychic, Round, Snore, Thunder, Thunderbolt, Water Pulse, Weather Ball

Status Moves

Attract, Aurora Veil, Barrier, Calm Mind, Confide, Double Team, Encore, Endure, Flash, Growl, Hail, Haze, Iron Defense, Light Screen, Magnet Rise, Mist, Nature Power, Protect, Psych Up, Rain Dance, Reflect, Rest, Roar, Rock Polish, Safeguard, Sandstorm, Sleep Talk, Stealth Rock, Substitute, Swagger, Thunder Wave, Toxic

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Aurorus.

Sableye version 4.28.2

Pokémon No. 698: Amaura

Types

Rock/Ice

Abilities

Refrigerate, Snow Warning (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

77/59/50/67/63/46

Total

362

Sableye version 4.28.2

[short quiver]

uhh no

eviolite is not saving that

[solid frigate]

bro can’t even spam blizzard safely

Not even CM set can save it if Lugia CM does nothing

Tera can somewhat Remedy this

[short quiver]

tera flying maybe?

[solid frigate]

but like still i rather play Regice

yes im going that low there

[short quiver]

if only there was an item like assault vest that didnt shut off status moves

snow assault vest thunderwave suppoet

but NOOOO

[next stump]

29 hours until a new competitive format

[solid frigate]

read AV’s Property pls

[next stump]

https://tenor.com/view/dawn-of-the-first-day-hours-remain-the-legend-of-zelda-the-legend-of-zelda-majoras-mask-majoras-mask-gif-4313162383996083886

[short quiver]

how about you read my message above it first

[solid frigate]

Majora’s Mask reference yoooo

[solid frigate]

i did

Im just fustrated on how bad the Offensive stat is

[short quiver]

surely theres worse though

right

[solid frigate]

Uxie and Mesprit

but they are already bad anyways

[short quiver]

if only jirachi was legal

[solid frigate]

covert Cloak Stonks

fuck Serene Grace Iron Head Spam

[short quiver]

exactly

and also its got pretty well rounded stats

100 base everything

[solid frigate]

anyways

Now we wait for the new format

[solid frigate]

honestly thats the main problem about Jirachi

or any pokemon with same stat Value for all Stat

[short quiver]

why is that an issue

[solid frigate]

If you see all the strong Pokemon they all have Min max stat,which helps on doing their Thing Better

Having 6 stats being the same is just makes it mediocre on everything

[short quiver]

it also allows for slightly more versatility than other pokemon might have

they should make a mythical legal format fr ik they did it in swsh but come on bring it back

[solid frigate]

The only reason why Jirachi is still a Singles threat cuz the ability saved it from not really good

[short quiver]

serene grace kings rock iron head? 🤔

[solid frigate]

I mean if you only wanna play Magerena then sure

Cuz pretty sure almost all Mythicals did not made high placement into usage board

due to this format has more restricted legendaries than my win record in Bham

[short quiver]

how they have shamed my victini and meloetta

[solid frigate]

as much i love Meloetta,its so underwhelming

[short quiver]

relic song is so bad youd be better with hyper voice

[solid frigate]

Victini is fine but sigh

Charizard Gmax exists

[short quiver]

not anymore it doesnt

[solid frigate]

Even without that

Chi Yu and Koraidon just filled up that gap

[short quiver]

just wait till gen 10 terapagos is gonna vanish entirely

[next stump]

if champions keeps tera it will hang around

[short quiver]

mega tera dynamax all blurred together

yikes

if they brought zmoves back would victini have a niche 🤔

[solid frigate]

idk pagos can remove Primal Weathers anyway

Cuz it does not work in showdown

[short quiver]

it has to terastalize to remove the weather though

teraform zero is the stellar forms ability

does that mean terapagos directly powercrept rayquaza

[solid frigate]

you talking to a person that spam Terapagos

And no it doesn’t

cuz Rayquaza can use it again

[short quiver]

i spam terapagos

i love my turtle

[solid frigate]

i spam it like

Almost all of reg G,A bit in Reg G Wave 2,used it with Eternatus in Reg I for fun

[short quiver]

im still in the process of getting a glastrier

[rustic mountain]

could not come soon enough

[short quiver]

do we know anything about the new rules

[rustic mountain]

nope

[short quiver]

lame

imagine they throw the world into chaos with another 0 restricted format

[sharp escarp]

I just realized how goated gastrodon is

[rustic mountain]

wouldnt mind that reg h two would be goated

[solid frigate]

Im gonna just spam Sylveon Garchomp again

[short quiver]

id get to try my flame orb trick furret strat if they did

[rustic mountain]

lol

[short quiver]

furret is fast as hell

back in reg H i actually had it in my team for a bit

[rustic mountain]

doing what

[next stump]

i have faith they'll deliver something fun

[foggy lodge]

Arcanine in reg H,,,

[short quiver]

tricking a flame orb onto the enemy physical attacker

[foggy lodge]

I used Arcanine in reg H and it was so good

[next stump]

we've had to use restricteds for like 12 out of the last 15 months

[rustic mountain]

i dont

[solid frigate]

honestly Reg H is my most Confusing Ass format cuz i did not find a team for Reg H until like late as fuck

[foggy lodge]

I think it will be something new

[solid frigate]

i mean you literally predicted Reg A+

[sharp escarp]

I thought furretwasn’t considered good in competitive

[rustic mountain]

hahaha nice

[short quiver]

i made it work

[foggy lodge]

Because when they announced reg H they announced alongside that that the next reg would be reg G

[short quiver]

funnily enough it worked too

[solid frigate]

Ah yes Fittest

My favourite Pokemon

[sharp escarp]

I mean it’s main weakness is fighting and the existence of urshifu makes it weak?

[sharp escarp]

Yes I agree

[rustic mountain]

reg h had no urshi

[short quiver]

urshifu wasnt an issue at the time

[sharp escarp]

Oh

[solid frigate]

they have Sneasler anyway

Equally as annoying lmao

[rustic mountain]

stop

[solid frigate]

but i do love Shifu so

Eh

[rustic mountain]

[short quiver]

chat is a rain basculegion team still viable

[solid frigate]

dude i used Sneasler during reg H and sometimes not getting the right status with Dire claw is annoying

[rustic mountain]

sneasler is like the coughing baby to ushifus hydrogen bomb

they are not in the same league

[solid frigate]

it won portland regional

[short quiver]

you say that and then dire claw puts that urshifu to sleep. then what

[sharp escarp]

Wondering why urshifu got g-max

[solid frigate]

im just saying its annoying on like the chance of getting the right status (aka sleep)

[rustic mountain]

im astral barraging sneasler for +1 boost nd winning

or i have miraidon and dire claw isnt putting me to sleep

[short quiver]

choice scarf dire claw? 🤔

[solid frigate]

Miraidon just ignore 2/3 status anyway

[sharp escarp]

I didn’t know sneasler was great in competetive since like a month ago lol

[rustic mountain]

sneaslers a non factor this format for a reason, its mid

[solid frigate]

and yet people still use it

[short quiver]

yep

[sharp escarp]

What made it good in the first place?

[rustic mountain]

ppl still use mid mons all the time

[short quiver]

dire claw

[rustic mountain]

lower power level

[next stump]

it hit almost all of reg H for super effective

[solid frigate]

dire claw shenanigans

Replacing Urshifu’s role as the fighting type most of the time in Reg H

[next stump]

primarina, kingambit, rillaboom, incin, etc.

[rustic mountain]

as dogshit as poison/fighting is defensively its p decent offensively

[solid frigate]

and if you add Throat Chop sets if you dont run Fake out

Armarogue and Indeedee as well

[sharp escarp]

Also quick question why we the hisuian pokemon so loved for competetive like i can understand sneasler but what does arcanine do?

[short quiver]

as far as i know tank

[rustic mountain]

intimidate + rock coverage

[solid frigate]

hisuian:Damage

Kanto:Utility and Damage

[sharp escarp]

But he’s 4x weak to water

[short quiver]

the humble earthquake:

[solid frigate]

tera

[rustic mountain]

yea and u have a team of 6 and 4 u can bring, or tera if need be

[next stump]

those teams almost always ran amoonguss which covers completely for water types

[sharp escarp]

Oh yeah

[rustic mountain]

csr has a 4x weakness and is arguably the best mon in the format currently, that is only 1 aspect of a pokemons use case

[short quiver]

put the enemy on shrooms

[sharp escarp]

Man even though I’m not very good at it I love competetive pokemon

[rustic mountain]

vgc is fun

[sharp escarp]

I out my src Tera as fairy lol

[short quiver]

sucker punch would be bad

[rustic mountain]

yea fairy tera has made a bit of a resurgence recently

[solid frigate]

also we have the monke

[sharp escarp]

Monke with drums

[short quiver]

can we go back to reg h i wanna use tera blast tera steel meowscarada again

[solid frigate]

no

not that

[short quiver]

please

[next stump]

greatest competitive game i've ever played

[rustic mountain]

real

[short quiver]

pokemon unite

[rustic mountain]

dillon u gna be getting legends za? or u just play the comp games

[sharp escarp]

So good competetive starters are: Meowscarada rillaboom and Inciniroar (maybe premarina)

[molten oasis]

Meowscarada is a stretch

[rustic mountain]

agreed

[next stump]

i didn't get arceeus but I do think I'll buy ZA since I have a switch 2 and it will (hopefully) run well

normally I'm just comp games though, I actually haven't played any of the older games at all

[short quiver]

meowscarada had a niche in the national dex reg set at the beginning of SV i just made it work in reg H (kinda)

[solid frigate]

incin>Rilla>Zard>Blaziken>Prim

[molten oasis]

Primarina is alright

[rustic mountain]

oh hell yea dude thats dope yea it looks great on the switch 2 from wat i saw

[molten oasis]

How the fuck did blaziken get over Primarina

[short quiver]

speed boost probably

[molten oasis]

It’s mega?

[sharp escarp]

Honestly I think present 2025 is over hated I don’t need a perfect no mistake game

So long as it’s fun I’m happy

[solid frigate]

yeah im counting Mega as well

So i feel like zard has higher impact than rilla in this case if i add Gmax as well

[rustic mountain]

issue is so many are circumstantial on format and gimmick id say really incin and rilla are the only consistently good ones with ones that can be good sometimes (venu/zard tier) and id put prim as like fringe along with stoise and some others

[sharp escarp]

Still waiting for mega bibarel

[solid frigate]

How did i forgot about Venusaur

[rustic mountain]

idk but it ran swsh for its entirety almost

[sharp escarp]

Still waiting

[rustic mountain]

gna b waiting awhile

[solid frigate]

I mean all the kanto starters have some usage in swsh i think

[rustic mountain]

zard and venu were meta staples, stoise was solid for a bit

[next stump]

yoooooo shoutout g max vine lash

absurb move

absurd*

[rustic mountain]

insane move

[sharp escarp]

IM NOT IN DENAIL LIKE FLYGON FANS I SWEAR I KNOW MEGA BIBAREL IS COMING

[solid frigate]

truly absurd

[next stump]

and the guessing game of clicking fake out into it to cover for spore

[rustic mountain]

i do not miss the sleep powder venu mind games

[solid frigate]

honestly same

[rustic mountain]

i ran it for the players cup 3 iirc tho lol, got top 256 na

[next stump]

it was veryyyyy fun to use as the pilot

[rustic mountain]

yep

[next stump]

but my first ever local I went to, I ran groudon/venu and missed basically every move and was out of the tournament after the second round

[rustic mountain]

gdi lol, that was swsh?

[next stump]

yep hahaha, it was a huge wake up call cause I got wrecked so badly

[solid frigate]

Man

This is tragic

[rustic mountain]

hahaa nah i feel that, been there

its how we learn

[solid frigate]

i still have a backlash on missing two dracos on the Groudon

in my run

[rustic mountain]

can i vote none of the above?

[solid frigate]

honestly

I would lmao

[sharp escarp]

Uh sure

[rustic mountain]

nah idk id prolly pick zama

[sharp escarp]

Isn’t there

I mean I love urshifu so

I forgot Regis and birds

[solid frigate]

Can i vote Ice rider cuz its suprisingly fun when i picked it up

[sharp escarp]

I don’t have that you can only put caly

[rustic mountain]

eternatus?

spectrier? glastrier?

[sharp escarp]

Oh yeah I completely forgot he existed

[rustic mountain]

lmao u forgot like most of the swsh legends

[sharp escarp]

Bro I can’t remember what I had for breakfast

[rustic mountain]

damn

[sharp escarp]

I’ll fix it

[solid frigate]

eternatus is fun if you dont run cosmic power

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 890: Eternatus

Types

Poison/Dragon

Abilities

Pressure

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

140/85/95/145/95/130

Total

690

Other Formes

Eternatus-Eternamax

Sableye version 4.28.2

[solid frigate]

MAN THE STATS ARE SO GOOD

THE ABILITY RUINED IT

[sharp escarp]

This is as many I could put

[solid frigate]

not counting VGC
Articuno Galar design is peak

[sharp escarp]

Agreed

I don’t really like the horses on there own

But when I smol guy with a giant forehead gets on it they look cool

Not only that but they terrorize competetive

[solid frigate]

thats a brain tumor /j

[rustic mountain]

it is pretty great

i like spectriers design as well

[solid frigate]

its sad that the typing is bad and Stats doesn’t really take off

Cool ability tho

[rustic mountain]

yea maybe 1 day

[solid frigate]

i think it can work if they tone its stats tho

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 144: Articuno-Galar

Types

Psychic/Flying

Abilities

Competitive

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

90/85/85/125/100/95

Total

580

Base Species

Articuno

Sableye version 4.28.2

[solid frigate]

Its just a speed issue

125 spa is still fine

Make it 105 speed and i can work with it

[sharp escarp]

Ooh I have a new idea for a team

[short quiver]

is there like any itty bitty tiny niche whatsoever i can use my meowscarada 😕

[chrome knot]

no

[short quiver]

but whyyyyyy

maybe in the new ruleset next week

i say as they drag me to the white room

[chrome knot]

wdym why😭

it does virtually nothing lmao

[short quiver]

but i love it

and flower trick is a 100% crit chance move 😃

[shadow wind]

So is frost breath, you don’t see Cryogonal popping off

[chrome knot]

awesome!

[short quiver]

it could if someone dared to try it 🤷‍♂️

[misty helm]

What would be preferable on maranga berry appletun with iron defense a maxed out special defense a maxed out defense or both

[short quiver]

so like is there any way i can make it work 🥺
it has an assault vest and tera steel

[chrome knot]

no

[short quiver]

😨

but magic cat

it does have Protean

[chrome knot]

its stats are very shit for the power level of the format

its primary & secondary typing are outclassed by better role compression

[short quiver]

protean enters chat

[chrome knot]

ok so become a type with even more flaws and you now drop the rest of your stabs

good choice !

[bold geode]

Meowscarada dookie

[chrome knot]

meowscarada sucked even in reg h

[bold geode]

There is like
No way around that

[short quiver]

i have tera blast so i can become a normal type 🙂

[chrome knot]

oh awesome we become neutral to every type in the game

[bold geode]

Cool
Now you use tera on it instead of something that can use it better

[chrome knot]

we resist ghost by default so that is a non issue before u say this abt barrage lol

[short quiver]

i won games with meowscarada and Trick Furret

[bold geode]

Good for you
Does that mean it's good? No

[short quiver]

no but it means it can work if someone loves it enough

[bold geode]

I can throw a Scatterbug on a team with 5 other top mons, win some games and say "hey guys I won with Scatterbug"
Still cheeks

[short quiver]

uh huh

but you won with scatterbug

[bold geode]

Wait it's a love thing?

I love Zamazenta Shadow Rider

[short quiver]

i love meowscarada cinderace

the type changing duo

[bold geode]

Also like
They also say if you love it set it free

I think you know what comes next

[short quiver]

i was never a very good listener

[bold geode]

I can see that

[short quiver]

🙂

say i absolutely refused to not use it what would i use instead of tera blast

i think i had flower trick night slash play rough tera blast

and assault vest

[chrome knot]

night slash

no knock off no sucker punch

[rustic mountain]

stats are fine, more just depending on the meta (whats allowed for that format) + gimmick. idk if many ppl had dragonite being what it was in sv b4hand. sometimes a mon just hits the perfect storm

[short quiver]

it might have been knock off im at work so im half paying attention to my phone rn

yeah it was knock off

[rustic mountain]

[short quiver]

so anyways

what can i use instead of terablast

considering Protean

thunder punch looks not terrible

[bold geode]

Imma be honest
You can use anything and it's probably still not gonna work

[short quiver]

wont stop me from trying

[bold geode]

I can see that

[short quiver]

so

is thunder punch a resonable choice

[bold geode]

Honestly hell if I know

I think you just probably need to fuck around and find out honestly

[short quiver]

if it learned a decent ground type move id go with that

[next stump]

there's not many meta threats that you want to hit with thunder punch that you wont rather click flower trick into

[short quiver]

true

hmmmmmm

uturn maybe?

low sweep

[next stump]

u-turn for sure

[short quiver]

flower trick knock off(?) sucker punch(?) uturn and play rough

ill have to playtest between knock off and sucker punch

both are good and both are stab so

[next stump]

are you choice scarfed?

[short quiver]

assault vest

i might try choice scarf not sure

ill playtest that too when i get off work

i will do what i must to make her work

[mystic nexus]

What, what did I just face rn…? https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2412305113

Did they just expect me to let them explode or…?

[solid frigate]

i dont think they know how terrain works

[mystic nexus]

What was the purpose of the terrain anyways actually? Cause idk why they set it up

[solid frigate]

Misty Terrain Blocks Status Conditions like Burn or Poison

but they run Toxic Spikes for some reason-

[mystic nexus]

Yeah which is why I’m super confused why they bothered

[solid frigate]

they are in base 1000 elo

Expect them to have bad stuff

[short quiver]

lmao

[mystic nexus]

Hey Aegis what Elo should I reach before I consider building my team in game?

I was considering doing it immediately yesterday but decided to test it out more and not rush things

I feel comfortable with the team so far and most loses I have are from mistakes rather then the teams fault tho

[dense latch]

it differs for most people, it's kinda hard to pinpoint what "good" elo is

[next stump]

it varies person to person, some people might not build a team in game until they're Top 500 on the ladder, others might do it if they reach 1200-1300

it boils down to how much you enjoy playing in game and the resources you have in game

[mystic nexus]

Hmmm alright so if it’s just I feel comfortable piloting it?