#competitive_discussion

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brave hazel
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Depends if I manage to set it up with a defensive weak pokemon like Skarmory or something

shadow wind
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Huh?

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What is a “defensive weak pokemon”

brave hazel
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Plenty of entry’s you could make to set it up

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or I could just use a sash

shadow wind
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Defensive type Pokémon?

brave hazel
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like Skarmory & korv

shadow wind
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Those don’t really set up

brave hazel
shadow wind
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I don’t know how those would help Kommo-o but sure

foggy lodge
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You are playing singles no?

shadow wind
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It’s obviously singles

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I’m guessing OU or Natdex

brave hazel
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Just Scarlett random battles, get a lot of sweats on there that play main comp

shadow wind
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What tier are you playing?

brave hazel
foggy lodge
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MKLeo is winning a smash tournament this is so goated

shadow wind
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OU, UU, RU, Natdex

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I don’t know what tier Kommo-o is so I’m asking what tier you’re playing

shadow wind
brave hazel
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I’m just playing Scarlett online battles

There is no tier

You’re allowed to use anything & everything

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so it makes it interesting

rustic mountain
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isnt mkleo like the undisputed goat of modern smash?

shadow wind
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Yeah nah Kommo is actually getting exploded by every single legendary that’s going to be in there

shadow wind
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Spargo won with solo plant and beat Leo and Sonix in his run

brave hazel
shadow wind
rustic mountain
shadow wind
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Spargo is actually insane

rustic mountain
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still idt hes close to mks results or consistency

shadow wind
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Oh definitely not

rustic mountain
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as far as im aware

foggy lodge
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I track losses gl everyone

shadow wind
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Leo is my true goat

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Although I’ve been watching more Melee recently

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Zain my goat 🙏

foggy lodge
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When I fight accounts in very high ladder I start to track them lmao

foggy lodge
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Yes

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Mainly when they have some interesting 6

shadow wind
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Oh yeah I need to team build

rustic mountain
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conner did u watch wolfeys latest vid?

shadow wind
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I did not

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VGC content has become stale to me 😔

rustic mountain
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watch it, u can relive groudons glory days

foggy lodge
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It's about Groudon!!!!

shadow wind
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Oh I did see the thumbnail

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Nah cause it’s like I didn’t play competitive back then

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It’s like if I look at Larry bird highlights

rustic mountain
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neither did i, i dont usually watch wolfeys vids but this one is p good

shadow wind
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Maybe I’ll have to give it a watch

rustic mountain
dense latch
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yea it was a nice watch

foggy lodge
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Maybe its dumb to put a spoiler ||But I think the video works like a teaser for a future video about his 2016 worlds win and it would be very interesting to have a whole video and story about that||

rustic mountain
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yea i was seein if he led up to that in the vid, i didnt finish guess now i know lol

next stump
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Wolfey has a really good COVID era video where he watches and commentates over his 2016 win

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it's the old wolfey style too where he just rambles

rustic mountain
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covid era wolfey was honestly goated

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he did so many deep dives

shadow wind
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Oh boy, back to it

rustic mountain
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very analytical

shadow wind
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I miss the road to #1 streams/videos

next stump
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turning on his camera for his draft league matches and waiting like 20 minutes for his opponent while rambling about his day

foggy lodge
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Remember when Wolfey had its phase where he seemed like a regular poketuber

rustic mountain
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i get why hes shifted his newer content but i miss the old style where it was very freeform

left bobcat
shadow wind
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The old intro 🥀

foggy lodge
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The bonuswolfe channel would be cool for that but its dead

shadow wind
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MS paint for the win

rustic mountain
foggy lodge
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It was cool to see more about him outside of the pokemon best player phase

next stump
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foggy lodge
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The only thing that resembled that style of old videos was his part in the OHKO podcast I think

next stump
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it's timestamped to when I last watched so careful for that

dense latch
next stump
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great video

dense latch
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real youtubist era is unmatched

foggy lodge
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Old VGC has aura

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I wish current VGC had the narratives that old VGC had lol

rustic mountain
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my first ever intro to vgc was watching wolfey use delibird in swsh

shadow wind
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Dude

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Mine was his trainers teams

foggy lodge
shadow wind
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Actually mine might've been the Wolfey x Alpharad competitive colllab

foggy lodge
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My first impression about Wolfey was his with a fish costume

foggy lodge
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Indeed this is my goat

dense latch
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i started watching him when he did that dracovish cosplay special

shadow wind
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Mr. Fish 😔

rustic mountain
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lmao

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i kinda miss dracovish

shadow wind
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I very miss him

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How do I make this not look like the most basic Miraidon team of all time

foggy lodge
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"and bumblebee" team

shadow wind
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With who Groudon?

foggy lodge
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Wait you use white light showdown?

shadow wind
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I like how it looks

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It contrasts the type boxes

foggy lodge
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It shows that you have normal sleep schedules and not 1 am ladder spam

rustic mountain
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dark mode >

shadow wind
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Dude I went to sleep at 3 am technically this morning

rustic mountain
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nice

shadow wind
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I do not infact have a normal sleep schedule

rustic mountain
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i went to bed at 3 to b up at 7 we are not the same

shadow wind
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I woke up at 8, you truly are better 😔

rustic mountain
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nah it was so painful

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get ur proper sleep

shadow wind
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See I mean to

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Then instagram reels pulls me

rustic mountain
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bruh

foggy lodge
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Something dumb but I miss when I would sleep early because my gf from that moment also slept early lol

rustic mountain
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how things can change vegetaPain

foggy lodge
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Lmao

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Now I have to force myself to sleep early

shadow wind
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Anything look stupid?

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Other than Groudon

rustic mountain
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lmao

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idk if i love bulk up on this kind of team

shadow wind
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I have to specify

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Because every time I ask "Is something wrong or weird" I always get a "Well there's a Groudon"

rustic mountain
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i wasnt gna b the one to do that this time but i feel that

shadow wind
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Instead of bulk up I'm wondering if it's HHP or HH

rustic mountain
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yea i just dont see the team really providing groudon much staying power to make bulk up have value

shadow wind
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Fair

rustic mountain
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i think hhp is fine

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gives u single target ground coverage for wide guard stuff

shadow wind
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True

foggy lodge
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Stomping tantrum because you have to accept it will miss

left bobcat
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CHOICE SCARF COACHING URSHIFU

shadow wind
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Screw stomping tantrum

left bobcat
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High horse power?

rustic mountain
# shadow wind True

i also think stuff like bulk up can be bad for conditioning whereas u might be inclined to try a gameplan centered around that wen more often then not ur better off just goin for instant offense, especially with clam and team comp

shadow wind
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And specs over AV/Scarf

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Like this team does damage

foggy lodge
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I remember I killed a 70ish percent Incin with stomping tantrum while I was burned

rustic mountain
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i think specs or scarf is cool for mirai

foggy lodge
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I liked having a move that recompensates me for having bad rng

left bobcat
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Specs

rustic mountain
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i think scarf can be nice for u into like the caly zama stuff

shadow wind
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Yeah

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I will force them to click wide guard

left bobcat
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Nah just for caly

foggy lodge
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Also ice beam> freeze dry

shadow wind
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I've seen more ice beam recently

foggy lodge
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With Miraidon and Iron Hands you don't need more water coverage imo

left bobcat
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Icy wind and ice beam

foggy lodge
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Unless is specifically for wellspring and walking wake

shadow wind
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But I'm wondering if freeze dry can be better

left bobcat
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Encore and protect

shadow wind
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I'll try beam though

left bobcat
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And ig Kyogre

foggy lodge
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Most of the time you already force the tera grass on Kyogre tho

shadow wind
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Holy I haven't made evs in a while

foggy lodge
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Is talking tom lowkey a previous version of chatgpt?

left bobcat
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Eh just the usual 252 speed and special attack 4 spdef timid nature with a focus sash

shadow wind
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Nah not for Bundle

dense latch
left bobcat
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I’ve only ever done weird mixes with bundle in older regulations

shadow wind
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Bundle is probably the easiest to make evs for

left bobcat
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Just gotta make sure it’s booster is speed

shadow wind
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Well yeah

left bobcat
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Reg g lorb double blizzard iron bundle and kyurem white

shadow wind
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Man I can't with low elo players

left bobcat
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They do the funniest things

foggy lodge
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When I think "there's no way you protect this mon" and they protect it

left bobcat
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Somewhere around last year from what I’m gonna assume was a Tera normal choice banded Eleki and flutter they started off

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Then suddenly they switched flutter with incin

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Eleki with Tera normal explosion took out its own partner

shadow wind
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Like I just lost to maybe the worst CIR Kyogre player because they decided to never set TR

left bobcat
shadow wind
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He was 1100

left bobcat
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Oh 🐡

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Yikes

foggy lodge
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Spargo is in semifinals of this tournament

shadow wind
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Which tournament?

foggy lodge
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Smash factor 12

shadow wind
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Ah ok

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Wait I thought wasn't with LG anymore?

foggy lodge
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He won the last match with double parry into limit charged down B

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Truly my goat

shadow wind
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Cloud is epic

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Except when I have to play the ones in elite smash 😔

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God forbid a K rool land on their shield with nair

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I think Smash is the only game other than mons I've played competitively

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And by comp I mean on ladder, I don't attend tournaments or anything

foggy lodge
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I won one on my school

shadow wind
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I wish my school did that

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I just play elite smash

foggy lodge
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The worst place 😔

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Wish smash had a better online and better ranked system

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Cart ladder has a lot of top players playing regularly so you have something to practice there

shadow wind
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I mean Hbox brought back Matchbox

foggy lodge
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Elite smash is just funsies

shadow wind
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Elite smash is so toxic

foggy lodge
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It is I hate it so much

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The online is too horrible

shadow wind
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But at some point it's just funny

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Like this guy thinks it's so funny to tbag after killing a doc with aegis

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We really have nothing better to be doing

molten oasis
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I feel like smash is just generally a toxic game

shadow wind
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Yeah nah smash is like bottom 5 communities

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This guy might be the best player to ever exist

molten oasis
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Lmfao

shadow wind
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Well have you seen a better lead?

foggy lodge
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Csr Smeargle lead

shadow wind
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Nah cause Miraidon

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This one really beat me

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A masterclass lead

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I hope smeargle isn't in Gen 10

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Also showdown is lying to me

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It was at 0 seconds for like 5 seconds

molten oasis
shadow wind
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I'd end it all

cyan smelt
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Lern 2 luv smeargle

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Decorate smeargle next to geomancy xerneas

shadow wind
cyan smelt
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Bungle is paying off for you

shadow wind
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I have had to play Zama CSR Smeargle for 3 sets in a row now 😭

foggy lodge
shadow wind
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Oh my god

dense latch
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can't win a battle to save his life but he's my goat nonetheless

shadow wind
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Why did my Miraidon just outspeed a CSR

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Who is not running 206+ CSR 😭

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252 timid pays off sometimes

dense latch
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252 hp 252 spatk quiet csr ‼️

shadow wind
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It is on a team with trick room

dense latch
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min speed csr is still 139 speed lmao

shadow wind
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Jeez

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Yeah knowing I outspeed made all my fear went away

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Frick is that smeargle gonna do

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This is what game freak had in mind

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So I hit a double protect into a highhorse miss

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Thanks game

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Give me hope just to take it all away

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What speed do Rillas usually run?

foggy lodge
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110-120 i think

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Some are made to outspeed jolly incin tho

shadow wind
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Hmm

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I wonder why I speed tied with one with Groudon

foggy lodge
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Damn

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Some Rilla ran max speed in reg G to outspeed stuff like adamant Urshifu and click drum beating

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But it was long ago

shadow wind
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Interesting

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Man why did I not use dgleam tera fairy Mirai earlier

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Groudon + Tera fairy Mirai just makes the Mirai MU so much easier

foggy lodge
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Fs

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Creating pin points against Miraidon all the time

shadow wind
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And specs Miraidon is gross

foggy lodge
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What Pokémon would the smash top players use in VGC

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Spargo seems like a Miraidon dude

shadow wind
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He seems like a Chesnaught kinda dude

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Plant gang

foggy lodge
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Electric seed Chesnaught with Miraidon

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Frfr

shadow wind
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Is this what it feels like to be my opponents?

shadow wind
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I just had the scariest bolt of all time on the field

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And by that I mean my opponent had it

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Life orb proto eterrain

molten oasis
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Oh nah lmao

shadow wind
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Why is there a Dragalge on my screen

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Dragalge you will be missed

foggy lodge
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🫡

shadow wind
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It was a weird game

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Maxi are you watching the final?

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Cause I don't know if Spargo has this

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Steve is just an unfair character

foggy lodge
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Yeah spargo should win

shadow wind
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Should but Syrup did reset

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I actually hate Steve so much

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Like why can Steve just get 75 uncontested

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Also really unlucky SD

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I think it either goes game 5 Spargo wins or game 4 Syrup wins

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Ok wait Spargo might clutch game 2

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Yeah never mind, Spargoat going 3-0

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Goat

stone trellis
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I think Wolfe is going to use Koraidon-CSR or MiraiNala at Worlds.

shadow wind
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Nah he's going to use Groudon Miraidon trust

molten oasis
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im expecting CSR Korai

stone trellis
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That's what I'm saying.

real prairie
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Hey guys

solid frigate
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Bolt?

real prairie
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Interesting, Y?

formal parrot
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Tera an Aegislash?

Y/N?

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Asking in context of Champions.

Since that Steel/Ghost typing is too good to remove

real prairie
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Assuming all the different gimmicks are in, it probably benefits most from Dynamax id have thought

solid frigate
real prairie
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IC

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i don't usually go into weather wars though, Kyogre will usually come out last once it can guarantee the weather

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but no harm in testing it

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another ice weakness though is not fun

bold geode
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@next stump

next stump
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yoooo that’s fire

tranquil kraken
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I love how we just got a Presents and they drop this a couple days later with no mention

solid frigate
kind sonnet
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Is trailblaze an egg move?

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Oop nvm

heady onyx
next stump
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81 hours until we get a new format announcement

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can you tell I hate Reg I

timber falcon
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in a sun team, is it ok to have 2 fire types and a ground type?

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or is that much too risky

solid frigate
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Reg G honestly feels more flexible

next stump
timber falcon
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im thinking of groudon, incineroar and volcarona

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been holding back on taking both volcarona and incin, as incin would help the tempo a lot but im very skeptical on type overlaps

heady onyx
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tired to play the same 2 restricted

solid frigate
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@next stump i might as well go insane over reg I cuz when i try to build something for champions format i tried Galarian articuno for some reason-

foggy lodge
next stump
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first Reg G and now Reg I

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both worlds i've been to have sucked format wise

solid frigate
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Reg G wave 2 is arubega spam

dense latch
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SV has not been kind with the worlds formats huh

solid frigate
foggy lodge
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Worlds with restricteds formats suck because its super heavily relied on MUs

dense latch
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idk how good of a format reg D actually was but I can’t imagine playing worlds using a month old format being any good for the players

solid frigate
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its better than Reg I

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but thats it

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they don't even have prep time for D

timber falcon
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can rage powder redirect spore? i forgot how it worked

forest arrow
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Rage Powder doesn’t affect grass types so unless it’s smeargle I don’t believe so

next stump
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yep, they would need to tera or be smeagle

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smeargle*

timber falcon
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so rage powder volcarona wouldnt redirect spore

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from amoongus

forest arrow
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Dillon pointing out Tera tho, it could work there as well

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if the Amoongus is Tera’d it can

stone trellis
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Plus, you can always deal with Amoonguss by nuking it.

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I don't think it's taking a sun-boosted Fiery Dance all that well.

timber falcon
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been struggling with high pressure teams, any changes i could make?

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also struggle with moongus after realising i didnt consider sleep

real prairie
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Why don't more sun teams run firepon

Growth + Solarblade + sun boosted Ivy cudgels + its tera attack boost seems vile

bold geode
real prairie
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yeah even if you go rock-pon

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growth is a big bonus in sun

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seems like cool tech

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new team is doing bits:

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Still want to improve the win rate to 3x instead of 2x

bold geode
real prairie
tiny karmaBOT
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Pokémon No. 465: Tangrowth
Type

Grass

Abilities

Chlorophyll, Leaf Guard, Regenerator (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/100/125/110/50/50

Total

535

real prairie
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no not that

tiny karmaBOT
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Move: Growth

Raises the user's Attack and Special Attack by 1 stage. If the weather is Sunny Day or Desolate Land, this move raises the user's Attack and Special Attack by 2 stages. If the user is holding Utility Umbrella, this move will only raise the user's Attack and Special Attack by 1 stage, even if the weather is Sunny Day or Desolate Land.

Type

Normal

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

PP (max)

20 (32)

Move Flags

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Snatch

Affected by Snatch.

real prairie
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in saying that, it gets swords dance

real prairie
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so meh

bold geode
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I need this drink to continue this conversation now

real prairie
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sorry

bold geode
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Nah it's Spatk lol

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Speed would be fucking crazy

real prairie
bold geode
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You can read worry

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Reading is hard

bold geode
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Real

solid frigate
nocturne holly
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What teams r u guys using

forest arrow
nocturne holly
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that’s aura

forest arrow
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Hope you’re doing good homie

nocturne holly
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Yea I am

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What about you what’s good

bold geode
forest arrow
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I’m good just at work

solid frigate
near crag
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What are good answers to zam? Stuff like volc seem awkward now, with a lot of these teams running ogerpon cornerstone

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And I'm on kyogre, but I can't touch him after he uses any of his three most common tera types

bold geode
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Landorus Incarnate also helps

near crag
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What do I do about tera grass? My other restricted is zacian

bold geode
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Do you not have anything to hit Grass types?

near crag
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Torn, mainly

bold geode
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Swap to Hurricane if you're real desperate, but you can always Taunt to shut off WG and then Bleakwind, Kyogre should probably have Ice Beam, there's other ways

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Ok Flutter does good damage, Hands has Low Kick which still chunks, idk why you're running SD Zac tbh, it'd much prefer just 3 attack

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I think your issue is probably in the gameplay and not as much in the builder

bold geode
bold geode
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I cannot share my sauce
Not just yet
Soon though
It is gas

shadow wind
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I think I have already shared my current team

minor geyser
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I had a terrible dream once where Pokemon Champions was released and Nintendo decided to go after Showdown...GengarSad

shadow wind
real prairie
shadow wind
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Not true !

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I made this in my own builder !

real prairie
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interesting Ice beam over freezedry

tiny karmaBOT
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Move: Freeze-Dry

Has a 10% chance to freeze the target. This move's type effectiveness against Water is changed to be super effective no matter what this move's type is.

Type

Ice

Category

Special

Power

70

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

20 (32)

Move Flags

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

shadow wind
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It’s a lot more damage

tiny karmaBOT
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Move: Ice Beam

Has a 10% chance to freeze the target.

Type

Ice

Category

Special

Power

90

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

solid frigate
real prairie
shadow wind
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It does like 80 to Miraidon

real prairie
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especially ditching that super effective against water utility on a groudon team

next stump
shadow wind
next stump
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i’m not gonna lie if they make champions well enough, i probably won’t play much of any showdown

real prairie
bold geode
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Ngl am I crazy to say I could see it happen?

next stump
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because if i can play on my phone AND basically instantly make teams

solid frigate
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especially smogon players

bold geode
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Honestly yeah I wouldn't touch Showdown again

real prairie
next stump
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one tough part though is you probably cannot make alt accounts, which would be big for trying new teams

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you’d have to tank your rating or play casuals

real prairie
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onlyway showdown works though is if they can make it so you can play without animations, because otherwise games will still be 10x longer

bold geode
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There's also a thing I see no one think about with the Victory Points needed to build shit

real prairie
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similar to current

dense latch
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smogon would be fucked

minor geyser
next stump
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great video if anyone hasn’t seen it

bold geode
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Technically that is a resource, which means building will require resources like it does now, instead Victory Points will be said resource
But having that resource be earned thru battles actually imo kinda ties the teambuilding process more solid with everything else in competitive

next stump
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TLDR showdown hasn’t done anything that threatens pokemon yet, and they also don’t profit off showdown

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but with champions you can easily make the argument they’re infringing on their IP now

bold geode
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Like it also actively encourages you to do the strat of like for example building something quick to scout the meta

real prairie
next stump
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oh and showdown has bo3 OTS which if champions doesn’t implement, that’s a hugeeee plus for showdown

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really hope there’s at least a bo1 OTS ladder in game

real prairie
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yeah, thankfully showdown themselves implemented that in the last year or so

bold geode
real prairie
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can always be added later

bold geode
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Thing is idk if they're gonna be THAT caught up to speed on the general public opinion

real prairie
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Can see why nintendo never made their own showdown though, as an idea its awful on paper for a marketing team.

Yeah pokemon battling, but strip everything away and give them access to everything.

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a marketing teams first thoughts would be "They'd get bored so quickly without anything to unluck or grind"

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that statement alone is probably why there is VP in Champions at all

next stump
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that’s why they almost have to be forcing VGC onto champions

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because if* it’s truly just a battle simulator, no one is going to play it consistently

bold geode
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For sure

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I'm still just wondering how they're gonna work megas and tera together

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I stg if that shit stacks

real prairie
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itll be like when Z crystals and megas were around together. pick 1 per match

next stump
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I was talking to some friends about that and I think it has the potentially to be really uncompetitive

solid frigate
next stump
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Like you cannot master a format with megas in just a couple of months, so imagine they have megas for one regulation and switch right after.

solid frigate
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cuz everything is done with Pokemon home anyway

real prairie
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yeah if it hangs around longer than a single regulation itll cook competitive

bold geode
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I mean I wouldn't put it past them to try it right away
Look at fuckin Reg D

next stump
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maybe I’m a sceptic but I don’t see how that’s very competitive even if it’s fun

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That would be a nightmare regional to play in if each team can mega evolve, dynamax, tera, etc.

gentle cragBOT
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Result: 174.000000

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Result: 180.000000

solid frigate
wooden steeple
bold geode
rustic mountain
# next stump oh and showdown has bo3 OTS which if champions doesn’t implement, that’s a hugee...

not that we know the full picture on champions yet but as of now, i dont think it will compete with the instant accessibility sd offers, whether its spending in game currency to change ur spreads/ability etc or even having access to the mon ur trying to use (speaking more for ppl who havent been playing the game for years that already have most if not all meta mons theyd need to transfer over)
i think sd has quite a leg up on champions rn where as id still favor using sd for testing in most cases over having to grind or use resources in champions

bold geode
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Idt Dmax or Z moves were advertised in the game at least yet

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Now if all 4 were there? Yeah fuck no

rustic mountain
#

just assumptions

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all 4 would b a fun casual mode thing but def not for comp

bold geode
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Yeah I was just under the impression it'd be just megas and tera
Which that could possibly work competitively

rustic mountain
#

yea if any 2 id say thats the best bet. also remember it said not actual gamplay footage in that trailer. couldve simply been a means to showcase both would be in the game, but not necessarily at the same time

bold geode
#

Right
I mean megas and tera would make sense, thing is you'd probably see tera be even heavier on a defensive approach

dense latch
#

dynamax next to any other gimmick would be insane

bold geode
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If they try to include a format with Dmax I will legitimately sit the format out

dense latch
rustic mountain
bold geode
rustic mountain
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ngl tera + another mechanic sounds miserable

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i like tera but more on its own, when you add more it really makes things overly complicated on what you have to account for. seems like a shitstorm

bold geode
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I mean being able to defensively tera against powerful megas doesn't sound too bad to at least try

#

I mean
I feel like this can be sort of a shit storm
Or that a shit storm could be coming

solid frigate
wooden steeple
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oh I can't even select a picture tho

rustic mountain
#

u need a certain rank to post pictures in the server

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great ball i think?

bold geode
#

Yeah
Just talk more, you'll get there

wooden steeple
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ah ok fair enough

bold geode
#

Be sure to follow the format shown in the pins

wooden steeple
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tbh the slow mode kinda made me talk in other vgc servers more lol

rustic mountain
#

fair its a big server tho, gta help combat spam in whatever ways u can

wooden steeple
#

fair

bold geode
#

My brain is on slow mode

rustic mountain
#

monke seein hes immune to slowmode: PB_shock

bold geode
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LMAO

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Bro I'm not affected by slow mode in this channel due to the role yet it still don't fucking matter

solid frigate
#

oh god

Shitpost monke

bold geode
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Y'know what's funny

#

I was talking to someone about it

rustic mountain
#

i will say ive gotten used to having slowmode in other channels like breeding it makes it weird having to wait 5 seconds sometimes but w/e i understand it

bold geode
#

One day I was like "damn ever since I became staff, this chat been better"
Then I realized "aw shit I don't shit post near as much, am I the problem" KekHands

rustic mountain
#

got em

bold geode
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I became conscious

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The chat is better cuz I got nerfed
I actually got a be responsible and shi now

rustic mountain
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hahahah idt u derailed the chat that much

bold geode
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Yeah but like damn I was crazy sometimes

rustic mountain
#

tru

bold geode
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But it felt like

solid frigate
bold geode
#

Y'know when you gain consciousness for the first time as a kid

rustic mountain
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id like to think i had consciousness from birth

molten oasis
rustic mountain
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nah but i get wat ur saying

solid frigate
rustic mountain
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idk if id say first time, cause its gradual but the more u realize ur sentience

bold geode
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Like that point where you're not just like
Mindlessly watching Teletubbies with Cheerios and shit in your lap just cuz you're not able to make the decision to do anything else

rustic mountain
#

yo that combo was crazy tho

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simpler times

bold geode
#

Fr
Honestly bring me back

shadow wind
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It's so beautiful

rustic mountain
#

conner realizing what using good restricteds does

bold geode
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Now I just mindlessly watch anime with food and a blanket in my lap cuz I'm choosing to pretend my responsibility isn't a thing

solid frigate
rustic mountain
#

yea miraidon is nuts

foggy lodge
#

ChatGPT how do I beat Smeargle

rustic mountain
bold geode
shadow wind
#

Why are people running lorb bolt again

rustic mountain
#

more damage?

bold geode
#

Wait isn't Kaiju No 8 airing again?

shadow wind
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Yeah but it's really annoying because both my restricteds boost it 😔

rustic mountain
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dude the animation looks crazy for kaiju no 8

foggy lodge
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Life orb boosted tera electric boosted proto boosted terrain boosted thunderclap is funny

shadow wind
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Yeah I just dealth with that

bold geode
foggy lodge
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Pretty sure that can oneshot restricteds

rustic mountain
#

them wen they see conners team: pepemostacho

rustic mountain
shadow wind
#

And it's always Zama CSR

rustic mountain
#

so many animes on the backlog

solid frigate
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i kinda just did not watch anime for a while

foggy lodge
#

314 BP Thunderclap💀

bold geode
#

I have so many things on the backlog
After I'm done with this blogpost, I'm actually gonna tackle some of it

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TV shows, animes, video games

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And VGC is then gonna pump out a new Reg and gonna suck me back in immediately pepeBuisness

rustic mountain
#

got a month till then

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idt itll be new in the sense of a format we havent played b4

stone trellis
#

Has anybody seen that clip of Hungrybox crashing out over Fox?

stone trellis
rustic mountain
bold geode
foggy lodge
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Valid crashout

bold geode
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Idk
Unless it's very exciting I might take a break for a bit

stone trellis
rustic mountain
#

generational crashout

shadow wind
#

Groudon is truly too strong

rustic mountain
#

this aint primal

rustic mountain
solid frigate
bold geode
#

Also Tree Switch 2 SV has kept me busy from playing monkey game KekHands

rustic mountain
#

damn

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save transfer was smooth?

stone trellis
bold geode
rustic mountain
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lmfao

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im putting my mons into home for sure

bold geode
rustic mountain
#

torrents gif collection is like 99% shitposts

solid frigate
bold geode
bold geode
rustic mountain
solid frigate
bold geode
#

And cuz I'm dumb

rustic mountain
#

u know wats worse?

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losing the mon

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glad u didnt but damn haha u just were like fuck it ball up top

bold geode
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Yeah
That was the very first Calyrex I got too from story, I was lucky as fuck

rustic mountain
#

wow

chrome knot
#

you had like

solid frigate
chrome knot
#

0% chance to lose it unless you were so dumb that u deleted your save and then puked on your switch 1 and then broke that too and then smashed ur switch 2 for fun

solid frigate
bold geode
rustic mountain
chrome knot
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i look it in the mirror everyday don’t worry

solid frigate
bold geode
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Honestly I didn't wanna lose the mons but as for the save file, I honestly wouldn't mind too much if I had to replay the game considering the graphics and performance

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Like it's almost a whole brand new fuckin game

bold geode
rustic mountain
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i mean i heard its fine for p much every1 thats done it

solid frigate
forest arrow
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Replaying Scar and Violet on switch 2 doesn’t seem unfun imo

chrome knot
bold geode
#

Don't you have to pay for more slots

rustic mountain
solid frigate
forest arrow
rustic mountain
bold geode
#

The difference in performance between the consoles on SV is actually jaw dropping

solid frigate
bold geode
#

Like just watching it doesn't do enough justice

chrome knot
#

i jus made a new alt for chien pao & ogerpon that are goin to worlds which means i get to spoil myself with another love ball bolt

forest arrow
solid frigate
#

i got both Scarlet and violet anyway

rustic mountain
#

it looks super nice on the switch 2, id like to feel how it plays outside just post game stuff

rustic mountain
forest arrow
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Agreed, I should be getting my switch 2 pretty soon, will definitely be replaying it

chrome knot
#

he!

forest arrow
chrome knot
#

who did it then

rustic mountain
#

u think id play comp w/o bolt? peepoglad

forest arrow
#

Of course bud❤️ and true

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🤣

bold geode
chrome knot
#

he meant it

bold geode
#

Damn
Write the Twitlonger, I'll go ahead and make the apology video now

chrome knot
#

??????

#

im gonna gooo

bold geode
#

We are not on the same thought LMAO

bold geode
bold geode
rustic mountain
bold geode
#

Since I got the Switch 2 and the game feels way more lively now I might go for it to experience at least some story in the new graphics but like
I don't really wanna grind LOL

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OH I FORGOT

#

@rustic mountain bro I saw shit from CBS sports about LeBron and Mavs shit, I'm low-key just like bro c'mon

#

Like it's rumors but like
Bait used to be believable bro

shadow wind
solid frigate
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i love the nuke

shadow wind
#

I think I'm happy with a 73.5% GXE

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With over 500 games I'll take it

shadow wind
#

I have seen it all

dense latch
# shadow wind

i want to try and give them credit and say maybe they just searched for "choice s" but scarf comes before specs idk what they were cooking 😭

shadow wind
#

Low kick Koraidon

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I want to know how people can just predict when they're gonna get lucky

left bobcat
#

We’ll never know

real prairie
#

My "VGC Hottakes" video should be up Tonight 😄

left bobcat
#

Where?

real prairie
#

On my youtube, ill share the link when its live

left bobcat
#

🐠

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Drop drop drop drop drop drop

dull ibex
#

I miss hyperoffense

left bobcat
#

Ig so

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A lot easier

real prairie
#

Thank you all who participated and added your hottakes

#

i tried to include as many as i could

river pelican
#

Y'all think Belly Drum Snorlax with Toxic Orb and the immunity ability for maximum power facade would work?

dense latch
#

immunity doesnt prevent poison damage

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just prevents getting poisoned entirely so that won't work

#

even if it did just use guts ursaluna

river pelican
#

Worth a try

#

Thanks for the insight

foggy lodge
#

You are better just using a berry if you are using belly drum

#

-50% HP into putting a timer on your own Pokémon is not a good idea xd

shadow wind
#

Drain punch !

bold geode
bold geode
#

It's technically against server rules to promote stuff outside the channel without the role

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I'm not gonna hound ya though cuz I'm guessing you didn't know that

real prairie
#

well theres that and the fact lots of people here helped make it

bold geode
#

Right
I'd apply for that though just for future stuff

real prairie
#

sure ofc, but how is what i meant lol

bold geode
#

How? Should be in the channel pins

real prairie
#

got it, thans

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thanks*

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sorry its 2am here lol

waxen dock
#

It also have belly drum

polar canyon
#

It's like being made of glass and having a target in your back

solid frigate
jade dust
#

My goodness I can’t believe I won this

shadow wind
#

Holy smeargle is actually so cancer

#

Like I've never seen a less skilled pokemon

stone trellis
#

Gleam would've KO'd Kyogre and CSR.

#

Are you not Specs?

cyan smelt
#

Smeargle is funny

jade dust
shadow wind
#

Blessed days

ocean pawn
#
near crag
#

Do you think there is a problem on running mostly special attackers on a team? I have one physical attacker (restricted), and one redirector, who doesn't run any damaging moves. Other than that, it's all just special attackers.

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Maybe calm mind pagos, or stuff like ho-oh could be weird, but I don't think I'm gonna be facing those too much, if at all, and there surely is counterplay. Should I be concerned about anything else?

formal grove
#

is tornadus swagger viable with own tempo tinkaton

knotty mirage
#

In current reg yeah def not

chrome knot
knotty mirage
#

Fair enough

mighty stump
#

im too picky to wear uniqlo stuff anymore but it is cute

chrome knot
#

leaving the card text is so troll

lean ridge
near crag
#

Zacian, kyogre, torn, flutter, indeedee, and bolt

lean ridge
#

Imo idt it’s too much of a problem since ur physical attacker is one of ur restricted

solid frigate
#

flutter is unnecessary

stone trellis
#

You already have Tornadus, you don't need further speed control.

waxen dock
stone trellis
#

Amoonguss has the really funny ability to click Pollen Puff in Trick Room.

#

And suddenly Kyogre's Water Spout regains 75 BP.

near crag
#

Flutter does wonders, the extra damage, denying weaker forms of speed control, taunt, and guaranteeing a win against frail sash mons. I’m on a back and forth between amoonguss and indeedee, but just been using indeedee to have some way to reset tr, terrain control, and blocking priority

stone trellis
#

Is it Booster Energy or Sash?

near crag
#

Booster

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And I’m not aiming to play tr at all with that team, so amoonguss can’t help too much with pollen puff. It’s also not as reliable of a tr answer, with most tr teams running miraidon and either lunala or cir, mons that amoonguss doesn’t like

waxen dock
stone trellis
#

Not a problem if you outspeed everything.

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(Except for Sucker Punch from the cat and the bear)

near crag
#

Pao should never ohko, and ursh doesn’t love to be there either

stone trellis
#

252 Atk Sword of Ruin Chien-Pao Sucker Punch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Flutter Mane: 121-144 (92.3 - 109.9%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO

#

You were saying?

#

Or does it have less Special Attack in exchange for more Defense?

near crag
#

My bad, I was calcing for some bulk

stone trellis
#

I think 4 HP / 60 Def survives Sucker Punch.

real prairie
#

Have a video out later playing BeccaBaddest (if anyone knows her), looking for a few other people to face for a "Summer Friendlies series". Let me know if anyone fancies it.

#

current regulation rulesets

real prairie
#

@mighty stump @chrome knot @shadow wind @bold geode @dense latch @next stump
Would obviously love to give you guys a game at some point!

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and ofc @solid frigate we need to clash 😉

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also just seen @vapid comet DP... im a fan 👀

solid frigate
chrome knot
real prairie
real prairie
chrome knot
#

okiiee

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i just doing other things & yapping while friend preps for worldsGiggleHehe

bold geode
solid frigate
#

i'm tired of reg I so i am doing some shi

real prairie
real prairie
real prairie
bold geode
real prairie
vapid comet
#

Only rarely active in here

real prairie
vapid comet
bold geode
#

Does Ludicolo still dance on the field in SV

real prairie
bold geode
#

Good

real prairie
#

and it infuriates people

#

literally in the battle vs Becca she is telling it to chill out in the first 30 seconds 🤣

real prairie
chrome knot
#

wee bla loo pwaa

real prairie
#

🤣

bold geode
#

What spell did you just cast on me

chrome knot
#

u turn inside out soon

bold geode
#

NOOOOOOO

real prairie
#

love your nonsense @chrome knot

chrome knot
chrome knot
#

i goin to chicago to visit kat & watch worlds i so excitedddd

chrome knot
#

WTFFF I am not excited for this however

#

pan ow

bold geode
#

Lol

real prairie
#

Also just found out i can use my old Camlink to record my switch straight to my PC, i don't need to drop $200 on a new capture card

bold geode
real prairie
#

why they calling a 9 year old a cutie though 🤣

bold geode
#

Idt it's that way LOL

real prairie
#

like say 2

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why you saying 9

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🤣

bold geode
#

Anyways I watched a couple videos yesterday
There's this channel called Mythical Kitchen that does a series where they interview people about like death or like life things while they eat their ideal last meal
Very interesting

real prairie
#

damn son

bold geode
chrome knot
#

what

bold geode
#

I ordered a mocha frappe

#

Actually question
Have you ever told someone the ice cream machine broke just cuz you don't wanna make ice cream

chrome knot
#

i work in the kitchen

bold geode
#

Oh so you do not put the fries in the bag

chrome knot
#

no

bold geode
#

I see

chrome knot
#

put the burger in the box tho

bold geode
#

There was a Tiktok a few years ago actually where like
Some dude in a McDonald's just deepthroated an ice cream cone

#

I actually like somehow ran into that guy playing Fortnite once and we actually played together for a while KEKW

#

I got my McDonald's mocha frappe
It is indeed bussin

real prairie
bold geode
#

Yes

#

Hold on lemme see

shadow wind
misty helm
#

Would you guys argue that maximizing special defense on a rhyperior is better than maximizing hp

#

Here’s the stats

chrome knot
#

no

wooden steeple
#

probably

#

maybe check the actual numbers first

wooden steeple
#

assuming ur max attack, 188 spdef and 68 hp should be a good balance

solid frigate
wooden steeple
#

I mean the real answer is don't run rhyperior lol

lofty tartan
#

His name is Chit and he's my spirit animal

solid frigate
next stump
#

55 hours until a new pokemon format

chrome knot
solid frigate
next stump
#

they always announce 1 month before the format ends at 6PM my local time

bold geode
#

That hair is like
The epitome of bowl cuts

next stump
#

so if they follow the pattern, july 31st 6pm CT

solid frigate
lofty tartan
bold geode
#

Nah you wish you looked like me

#

You're jealous

lofty tartan
#

Monke lost the game

bold geode
#

Ok now that's hot

solid frigate
#

any predictions of new format for september

bold geode
#

My fault gang I didn't know you had game like that

bold geode
next stump
#

my definitely won't happen but I'd be so happy if it does prediction is either:

  • Reg H no Tera
  • Reg H with banlist from previous Reg H usage rates (i.e. Sneasler/Archaludon/etc. banned)
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neither will happen tho

bold geode
#

Good

bold geode
#

Honestly I'd be offended if you weren't offended

bold geode
#

Actually D

#

I want proper time with Regulation D

lofty tartan
#

Reg H no Tera

chrome knot
#

archaludon

lofty tartan
#

milk_shrug

Nothing's unbeatable. Archa can fold to a good ground move. The Ursas exist. It's cool it's fine

next stump
#

anything that goes backwards in power level is a W for me

bold geode
#

I see a lot of people hate on Reg D, but I think the only reason it wasn't a good format was cuz of the time that it hit

#

Like it sucked that the FIRST EVENT of a new format was the World Championships

#

I also wanna play F again cuz like that was a good format

#

Regardless though, I also fear run backs cuz they might have the same effect as Regulation G where playing a second time would just be miserable

lofty tartan
#

Reg H no Tera

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Good format with a twist

bold geode
#

Yeah
Or even like Reg H + paradoxes as some have said

stone trellis
#

Flutter Mane on its way to get 70% usage again:

bold geode
#

Idk
This whole next season finna be a bit awkward honestly cuz like
How do you keep the game going until Champions LMAO

next stump
#

yeah it's unprecedented territory

#

a game has never gone more than 3 years in VGC iirc

bold geode
#

Yeah and iirc it usually ends with dual restricted

stone trellis
#

What about Sword and Shield?

bold geode
#

So we've already hit the usual endgame and yet we still have a whole year

next stump
#

SWSH released Fall 2019 and SV came out Fall 2022

#

pretty sure

bold geode
#

Yeah

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Imma miss SV genuinely

stone trellis
#

I was asking about what the last format in SwSh was.

bold geode
#

Good thing though
I get another year to potentially think about how I wanna do content to end off SV
I was wanting to do sort of like a post like a stroll down memory lane

next stump
#

SWSH's last format that saw any tournament play (outside of some random small asian tourmaments) was double restricted, same we have now

#

then from September 2022 onwards (I think it's still live now?) they allowed mythicals and unlimited restricteds knowing that there wouldn't be any regionals

stone trellis
#

Imagine if Legends Z-A allows online battles.

#

That's the only thing I can think of.

next stump
#

I did see a leak that said there was a new menu option that said something like online battling

#

but it could easily be fake

#

it would be really cool if you battle in legends games but with just traditional VGC battle style

#

those games have cool pokedexs

bold geode
#

@next stump I was speaking about a Reg D team in this up and coming post I'm working on and I remembered
Remember in Reg D when Grass tera was like fucking insane

next stump
#

yep hahaha, grass tera iron hands everywhere

bold geode
#

Bro my best team of the time had 4/6 Grass teras LMAO

#

To this day I miss being able to run Grass tera Ursh and being able to run bulk on Scarf Ursh

short quiver
#

i gotta question is terapagos chiyu a good pairing rn i havent played competitive ladder in over 2 months

solid frigate
short quiver
solid frigate
#

still salvageable but you need more support+ a second restricted to help cover Pagos's weakness

short quiver
#

my team rn is so outdated

solid frigate
#

can i see the paste

short quiver
#

hearthflame ogerpon terapagos flutter whimsicott meowscarada incin

solid frigate
#

why Meow

short quiver
short quiver
solid frigate
stone trellis
#

Three Grass types in one team?

#

Do you CRAVE the Lando Sludge Bomb?

short quiver
#

i dont bring meowscarada to battles shes just in the team

solid frigate
short quiver
#

it usually works out

#

i ev and iv trained my entire team myself

solid frigate
#

i just want to see the Pokepaste in showdown

stone trellis
#

At least slap on an Urshifu or something so you can have an FWG core.

short quiver
#

if im using urshifu im using dark

short quiver
stone trellis
#

And also, get a second restricted.

short quiver
stone trellis
#

No Mirai?

solid frigate
short quiver
stone trellis
#

Why do you have "Scarlet AND Violet" in your roles if you only have Scarlet?

short quiver
#

i have both games

#

but i do online battles in scarlet

short quiver
#

also just pulled the last stake on Chiyus seal

stone trellis
short quiver
#

no

stone trellis
#

Are they all hyper trained?

#

If so, you can try to match their exact stats in the teambuilder to see what their EVs are.

short quiver
#

not all of them

#

i mean i can try and match the exact stats anyways

#

will just take slightly longer

#

i dont think i have max ivs. cuz im looking at this and comparing ogerpons stats

#

and something isnt adding up

solid frigate
short quiver
#

it says i have 96 ev points left on ogerpon

#

which i do not

solid frigate
short quiver
#

uhhhhhhh theres a blue graph when i press L

#

if thats what you’re asking

stone trellis
#

Alright, so that means it has all 508 (technically 510) EVs spent.

short quiver
#

for terapagos stats do i physically need to enter battle

solid frigate
#

you don't need to

#

you can just throw the EV stat on normal Pagos and then use the import button and rename Terapagos into either Terapagos-Terastal or Terapagos-Stellar

short quiver
#

ignore incins stats im still working on his evs 😭

solid frigate
short quiver
#

i have the team on showdown now what

solid frigate
#

send it

short quiver
solid frigate
#

might have a lot to talk about here

but lets tackle it one by one

short quiver
#

how bad is it, doc

solid frigate
#

if i use 1-10 to calculate how bad it is, 8/10

short quiver
#

ah, so im on my deathbed bleeding out

solid frigate
#

i might havve to scrap the entire team since its single restricted

#

but there are a few things i want to talk about on EVs

#

especially for Ogerpon and whimsicott

short quiver
#

we’re back in a 2 restricted format right

solid frigate
#

which both have wasted stat points

solid frigate
short quiver
#

noted

short quiver
#

i wanted ogerpon to be a little tanky but also have damage for itself

stone trellis
#

52 SpA is useless.

#

Ogerpon is a physical attacker.

solid frigate
# short quiver explain

Ogerpon is dominantly Physical Attacker, which means she should not have any stat points on Special attack

Making it bulky is fine cuz i do that a lot with Hearthflame

#

and make sure to have a grass move

short quiver
#

i have uturn instead of a grass move

#

and spiky shield cuz i love it. and follow me to protect terapagos

#

in battles i usually lead whimsicott flutter with those two in the back

#

as for the spa idk why thats there i was just making the showdown stat match the stat i see in game

solid frigate
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Ogerpon-Hearthflame @ Hearthflame Mask
Ability: Mold Breaker
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 188 HP / 76 Atk / 44 Def / 12 SpD / 188 Spe
Adamant Nature

  • Ivy Cudgel
  • Wood Hammer
  • Follow Me
  • Spiky Shield

For Example,this is my hearthflame spread use on a Miraidon team setting,with this bulk manage to adamant Urshifu Water's Surging Strikes and outspeed Modest max speed Landorus

stone trellis
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And it OHKOs Zamazenta after Terastallizing.

short quiver
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yum

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okay say i restart the entire team ev and everything. what can i adapt to the new format with. keeping a bulky ogerpon fire and terapagos calm mind leftovers if possible

solid frigate
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whimsicott has a lot of stat wasted when sash sets usually run 4 HP, 252 SpA and Timid 252 Spe to utilitise FOcus Sash

short quiver
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i have the band items i can train evs easily

short quiver
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looking at the blue graph when i press L i put a lot of points into defense though

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yikes

solid frigate
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yeah unless you are running Cloak Whims then you don't run Bulk on it

short quiver
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cloak will be on incin assuming i even use him at all

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i had a really funny idea of trick choice band furret but that wont work at ALL in this format