competitive_discussion

[jade dust]

To have water coverage and counter urshifu

[shadow wind]

Counter urshifu??

You have a Miraidon dog

[bold geode]

Big play

[shadow wind]

I hate this

[bold geode]

Miraidon
Koraidon has been seen
Lunala
Necrozma Dawn Wings
Kyogre

[shadow wind]

It isn't even +1 😭

[spiral ridge]

lol

[shadow wind]

This is not a laughing matter

This horse is actually a problem

[molten oasis]

I’m in such a dilemma

[spiral ridge]

was it sash or ghost tag?

[molten oasis]

I really like single strike rn but then incin mu’s suck

[shadow wind]

Specs

Tera ghost specs + helping hand next to Maushold

[spiral ridge]

oh then your flutter is safe

[molten oasis]

And then I just have to cope fighting double fake out lol

[bold geode]

Specs horse isn't common at all

[spiral ridge]

a single sucker punch

[bold geode]

Also just realized that one auto invite is null cuz Agati and Silva already have invites LMAO

[molten oasis]

Peak vgc teambuilding right here

[bold geode]

This season format is actually kinda booty dawg

[jade dust]

https://pokepast.es/0a9f7421d9312186

I came up with this

[shadow wind]

I'm going to start saying "Aw man" in chat everytime Groudon misses a pblade

[jade dust]

Actually Im questioning incineroar in this team

Maybe iron bundle?

With icy wind?

[molten oasis]

He finally realizes

This guy gets it

Only 75 players at worlds kinda blows

[shadow wind]

Holy that was tilting

Smeargle getting speed boosts

I love getting put to sleep with the swiftness !

[bold geode]

Reg I is fine
But yeah the qualifications just
Eh definitely not the greatest

[molten oasis]

Wasn’t talking about the format

I’ve thought the qualification system is kinda ass for a while

[shadow wind]

Some call me a prophet

[bold geode]

Oh well I've had mixed feelings for a while about it

Fucking STAB U Turn is so funny

[jade dust]

You werent joking

This is the 3rd in a row

caly ice mira

[shadow wind]

What is that ad 😭

[molten oasis]

Average web ads lmao

[jade dust]

I have no fucking idea

lmfao

[bold geode]

I once saw Among Us stuff as an ad (not good)

There was also this one on videos of like some AI wolf romance shit that wasn't PG-13 that I couldn't get off my YT for like months even though I don't watch anything like that
Another reason why I have Premium LMAO

[next stump]

volcarona is 1v4ing this matchup

[bold geode]

Hey congrats on invite

Also yeah Volcarona was really strong there

[foggy lodge]

gg

game 2 now

[next stump]

thanks 🙂 glad I could grab one

[forest arrow]

Deserved, good stuff

[dense latch]

great run this weekend, best of luck at worlds

[foggy lodge]

hell yeah LET´S GO DILLON

[next stump]

♥️♥️♥️

[dense latch]

roommate matchup in the finals between marco and fedecampo would be hilarious

[chrome knot]

@next stump CONGRAAAATS

[next stump]

♥️♥️♥️ thank youuuuu

[foggy lodge]

Marcofiero vs Riopaser now on stream

i don't think Ogerpon comes here

i think zama pao lead

[molten oasis]

@next stump congrats man

[foggy lodge]

what does ogerpon do here

[spiral ridge]

congrats dillon good shit

[drowsy comet]

Can you guys help me finish this team off, calyice, miraidon, farig, rockpon, hands

[bold geode]

Volcarona

That's literally Dillon's team

[drowsy comet]

How come?

[drowsy comet]

Who’s that

[bold geode]

Dillon Kleinvehn
One of our comp helpers and 2025 Milwaukee regional finalist

[drowsy comet]

Oh damn

[bold geode]

Anyways uh
Good redirection with Rage Powder, good into CSR Zam
It has it merits

[drowsy comet]

Alright thanks

[bold geode]

👍

[foggy lodge]

Your NAIC 2025 finalists, my people

[spiral ridge]

bro looks like vektor

[dense latch]

mclovin

[spiral ridge]

that too

[molten oasis]

I watched Superbad for the first time last month, it’s so funny

[spiral ridge]

nice

[dense latch]

peak movie

[shadow wind]

6 elo ain't even enough to pay rent nowadays

I've never seen it go below 6

[solid frigate]

Arby's Service's Rating lmao

[foggy lodge]

You made it to 1500 tho

https://x.com/Dimsunlight/status/1934011208568291332

Toler Webb (@Dimsunlight)

191 hp Volcarona with grassy terrain
Spreads don't matter crowd is way too loud

X · Jun 14, 2025, 10:12 PM

[shadow wind]

I've BEEN at 1500

Frickin all day

I peaked at 1540

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/zeen172M/status/1933999250477871281

じーん (@zeen172M)

NAIC 28位
miraidonと共に
アナハイムで会いましょう

X · Jun 14, 2025, 9:25 PM

Shohei's team

[foggy lodge]

https://pokepast.es/6e48991176ef7a70

Kobayashi's paste

[shadow wind]

Just 2 guys havin fun out here

[dense latch]

live mdb roasts must be crazy

[solid frigate]

honestly i wish i was there cuz i would laugh my ass out

[foggy lodge]

https://pokepast.es/1a7508c556385559

Zeen's paste

Should I put this in the pastes repository?

[solid frigate]

sure why not

up to you

[tiny cosmos]

Can I barrow an ability patch from someone I need it for my team

[bold geode]

#trading_sv

[left bobcat]

Can I borrow 5 dorra from someone I need it for my team

[bold geode]

Also @tiny cosmos plz refrain from talking in the #rental_teams chat unless you're posting a rental team

[tiny cosmos]

Mb

I just need this item bro

U got one?

[bold geode]

You good
The trading channel is your best bet

I don't have any anyways so

[tiny cosmos]

O ok

[bold geode]

But we don't really trade in this channel

[left bobcat]

Yeah we ain’t onalataknoewhayimsayinyafeeme?

[craggy dagger]

huh?

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/df9da79519c1f177 hm, I’d go rilla but idt there’s much of a point in rilla now, and i probably go shifu but unsure on a 6th

[chrome lark]

som utility be nice

[rare pumice]

I think the thing I'm most interested in for Generation 10 is if any new or old pokemon will be able to learn Flower Trick, Torch Song, or Aqua Step

[strange fjord]

Guys whats if im cooking? (im not lmao)

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2385162785-9yxex5sq0iu76f1vmcw5cdeld56yu4mpw

Anyways i think I found the team for me. it may not be the best, but it feels perfect for me

[graceful scaffold]

Muchlags??????????

[strange fjord]

munchy boi

[left bobcat]

THE LAG

[bold geode]

https://x.com/Mellow_Magikarp/status/1934113953132712286?t=Otb2wq8JkzA0P7cXK_gvKA&s=19

Kevin Clemente (@Mellow_Magikarp)

I haven't seen it mentioned yet

NAIC Jr finals are between a brother and sister and I cannot wait 👀

X · Jun 15, 2025, 5:01 AM

[next stump]

I feel so bad

One of my opponents two days ago tweeted this after I played him

[plain drum]

How's it going @chrome knot

[chrome knot]

dms c:

[solid frigate]

Rest in Pepperoni

[bold geode]

I think this tournament was just emotional on a lot of levels tbh

[next stump]

Yeah the format for worlds led to a lot of players making or breaking it at NAIC

[foggy lodge]

what does pulp mean sorry

[dense latch]

beaten to a pulp as an expression just means you got beat up really really hard

[foggy lodge]

ohhh

Damn that sucks

[misty helm]

Is volcarona’s best fire type move in singles fiery dance

Also would you run giga drain or energy ball

[shadow wind]

Fiery dance is extremely strong because it can snowball and make you stronger but I’ve also seen overheat or fire blast used as a secondary fire move

And giga drain / energy ball comes down to the set most times

If it’s a quiver dance set you normally run giga drain but if it isn’t quiver dance and just 4 attack you should probably run energy ball

[molten oasis]

I’ve have discovered how actually miserable CSR Zama mirrors are

Awful

[chrome knot]

theyre very technical

[shadow wind]

Groudon mirrors are also technical

You gotta believe me guys

[chrome knot]

uhuh

[shadow wind]

I actually hate Groudon mirrors

You both hate being Ground type in the sun but can't be fire type or you instalose

It's a game of tera chicken

Yippee !

[twin kindle]

[chrome knot]

[bold geode]

[twin kindle]

Ellou there frens

[shadow wind]

Miraidon CSR is really scary

Especially with fake tears Whims

I didn't notice the Whims set 😔

[misty helm]

So be honest could a set like this work in the current meta

Singles

[shadow wind]

OU I'm assuming?

But also you don't need throat spray

I'd rather have a set like

Torch song
Hex
Will o wisp
Slack off

With leftovers and no spatk invest

[misty helm]

But I want to snowball my damage numbers

Does skeledirge only preform well as a tank

[molten oasis]

This cooks

[misty helm]

Or can it be an attacker role

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/2cea6c2b2a07e028

Mostly consistent too

Oh uh, skeledirge kinda sucks rn

[bold geode]

I think Skeledirge is really more of a tank especially considering that Torch Song gives it a spatk boost
Not that it can't have any spatk at all, but I'd do very little cuz like
You can be bulky and do good damage building up boosts with Torch Song

[bold geode]

Singles

[molten oasis]

Oh singles

Uhm, can’t help ya there

[thorny beacon]

I BELIEVE IN GROUDON

[misty helm]

Is alluring voice that bad of a pick

[bold geode]

Yes probably
Not really much of a good move

[bold geode]

This is really just your best bet imma be honest

[misty helm]

Is there something inherently wrong with how I’m choosing to use it

[bold geode]

I mean I just feel it's not really that optimal tbh
Like
Unless you can't hit something that Skeledirge hits, then like
If you're looking exclusively for bulky guy that hits hard and gets spatk boosts, I'd literally use Archaludon for example
Basically the way you're using it really isn't the most optimal and there's just Pokemon that do what you're tryna do with it better, which is what the whole point is

[misty helm]

But I can use my current set with some success right?

[shadow wind]

I just LOVE losing a game to a freeze from the single ice beam clicked in a set of 3

[bold geode]

Not really no
Unless you're just like
Really low probably
You probably win a few games, then the set just gets severely outclassed in the case that it really gets wins at all

Also the fact that like
I can win with unoptimal sets too
Don't mean it's good

[shadow wind]

And that makes 2 of us !

[bold geode]

@thorny beacon Groudon cheeks

[shadow wind]

Hey !

Yeah...

[bold geode]

Get clapped

[thorny beacon]

aye man like i slandered the hunk of a dinosaur every day of the week to @pearl wind but nah, groudon got hands

[bold geode]

Brother definitely only playing Miraidon and something else weak to it

[thorny beacon]

i've always been a sun enjoyer, Koraidon has been my 🐐

but groudon you know

[bold geode]

How are you eating shit then

[thorny beacon]

groudon is a good lad innit

i'm not, i'm styling on dem kids

[bold geode]

Like you have CSR or Lunala to run with it

Both should work for Groudon LMAO

[misty helm]

I don’t care if it’s outclassed by other special attackers I have been swept by glimlet before

[thorny beacon]

my teammate for groudon is miraidon

[molten oasis]

That’s stupid

[bold geode]

Ok
Cool
You just asked if the set would work
I gave my advice, which is that it's not really a good way to run it

[thorny beacon]

i just started to play vgc again today so like yeah unc still got it

[shadow wind]

Rain was up for 2 turns by the way

[molten oasis]

The whole set? Lmao

[bold geode]

Unc is getting clapped by Groudon, idk bout that

[thorny beacon]

no i clap the groudons

in a groudon mirror my groudon is THE groudon

because the difference is my groudon is groudon

and their groudons are groudon

[shadow wind]

Nah but in the game that the freeze happened yes

[molten oasis]

Oh lol

Imagine tho, you read most of the times he brings in kyogre

[bold geode]

And I am Steve, so what

[thorny beacon]

THE NETHER

[bold geode]

Me as I point to my ass

[thorny beacon]

anyway monke i want a 38 word analysis on my team i created today at 1:48am in like idfk 4 minutes, you judge please comp helper?

any slander to groudon is racism

[bold geode]

Me screaming Ender Pearl as I throw a bowling ball at a person

[bold geode]

1. Fuck it
2. Brother I'm Texan

[thorny beacon]

nice, we're both racists then 🤝

[bold geode]

Yeah I love Nascar

[thorny beacon]

https://pokepast.es/25c02d5607d67768 38 words munk

[bold geode]

Actually like
I genuinely wonder like
What about Nascar excites people

[thorny beacon]

the crashes and photo finishes

[bold geode]

Oh you want ME to make it 38 words

[molten oasis]

Do you know anything about nascar?

[bold geode]

They drive in circles 500 times

[thorny beacon]

yeah has my guy even watched nascar once

and this is coming from a guy from down under

[bold geode]

Ok

[molten oasis]

I think football is boring

They run across the field with a ball all game

[thorny beacon]

is this american or actual football

[molten oasis]

However if I knew more about football I think I’d be more interested in it

[molten oasis]

American

[thorny beacon]

that is fair then

[bold geode]

I'd try Bulk Up over SD Groudon

Min speed Incin is a choice here

Gunk Shot over Dire Claw maybe since terrain shuts off sleep

Everything else is fine, maybe play more to check EVs for optimal use

And yes
I counted the words

[molten oasis]

What?

[shadow wind]

What is the counter play to cloak CM Clefairy CSR?

[molten oasis]

Fucking pray

(Strong spread damage)

Taunting the clef helps

For groudon uh, spam pblades ig

[thorny beacon]

idk, you tell me

[molten oasis]

What’s your team currently?

[thorny beacon]

if you ask about the EV spreads, I'll kill you

that is my team currently

[molten oasis]

No I was asking Conner for his team

But I’m curious as to what you have

[thorny beacon]

I am Conner

[shadow wind]

Someone hasn't heard that people that work together do better together

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-beocord-no-lol-gif-24435520

[shadow wind]

https://pokepast.es/9f549bf454079d1d

This is what I'm currently working with

[thorny beacon]

oh you can tell me the EV spreads because you're the goat but if monke says anything then i'll kill him

[molten oasis]

(Try to) Taunt the clef with flutter maybe

Give yourself some time to set up volc to mirror it or start blasting with groudon

[shadow wind]

Yeah it's tricky cause Flutter does nothing else but die

[molten oasis]

Or just lead miraidon and groudon and nuke it

[shadow wind]

Clefairy runs tera Ground

[molten oasis]

Mm

[shadow wind]

I've only played one MU like this

[molten oasis]

Well hold on if it’s running ground isn’t snarl damage free?

[shadow wind]

And it was the same guy 3 times

[thorny beacon]

thanks man, now i'll use reshiram next

[gentle crag]

mxnujen has given 1 Gen Rep to dollarmonke

[molten oasis]

Like I think snarl should do a bunch to CSR

Even at +1 spD

And you’re not locked to a move

[shadow wind]

A bunch being like 19%

[molten oasis]

There’s no shot

It’s 4x weak to it

[shadow wind]

And snarl is 55 bp

196+ SpA Hadron Engine Miraidon Snarl vs. +1 108 HP / 4 SpD Calyrex-Shadow with an ally's Friend Guard: 69-84 (36.5 - 44.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

Yknow I was wrong and I'll accept it

[feral wraith]

[thorny beacon]

sup comp enthusiast

[shadow wind]

But they can always just tera out of it

[feral wraith]

hi raid enthusiast

[bold geode]

[shadow wind]

Anyway

I just won't match into that guy again

Right...?

Average AV Miraidon mirror

[thorny beacon]

12% damn that’s massive

How are you gonna come back from that

[shadow wind]

Truly a question for the ages

Uh by the way they crit me at -4 and I lost

I LOVE THIS GAME !

[thorny beacon]

Racist against Groudon it’s a shame

[shadow wind]

Actually it's even worse I was +3 spdef and they were -4 spatk and crit

[thorny beacon]

Your Volcarona just crumbled under the pressure my condolences

Might need to send it to the gym

[shadow wind]

Or their Terapagos locked in

And just lost to missing pblades 😔

Maybe I need to never step foot in a casino

[thorny beacon]

So far today I haven’t had a game decided on a pblades miss but that could mean I’m just in my honeymoon phase atm

A bit of beginner’s luck one might say

Probs tomorrow if I play I’ll just get railed brock hard

[thorny beacon]

Doesn’t us using Groudon mean we belong in a casino?

[shadow wind]

Yeah probably

I mean I just like him

He's funny

[thorny beacon]

Exactly, simple things innit

He’s a great lad

Very handsome

[shadow wind]

Very awesome

And lost to a crit

God dang

I just don't think I deserve this

Went game 3 and I only lost because I missed a single pblade and I got crit

[molten oasis]

You have fallen from 1500’s, unfortunate

[jade dust]

Whats the evs for iron hands?

Max HP and attack?

And 4 in spc def?

[dense latch]

you want to invest more into spdef than hp

[thorny beacon]

My guy is building a raid iron hands

[dense latch]

Iron Hands @ Assault Vest
Ability: Quark Drive
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 76 HP / 180 Atk / 12 Def / 236 SpD
Brave Nature

• Fake Out
• Drain Punch
• Wild Charge
• Low Kick

tera type can be bug or water depends on what you want it to do

[thorny beacon]

Remember to put the 0 speed iv unless you’re actually using brave without that

[dense latch]

yea this is just the basic one on a website that doesn’t show ivs

brave with 0 spe kinda goes without saying

[jade dust]

That much into spc def?

[dense latch]

yes

makes the most out of the assault vest

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 992: Iron Hands

Types

Fighting/Electric

Abilities

Quark Drive

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

154/140/108/50/68/50

Total

570

Sableye version 4.28.2

[dense latch]

iron hands’ HP is already very high and it’s spdef is super low in comparison

[jade dust]

I see, alright thanks

https://pokepast.es/48ef919fe0add2c1

This is what Im using

[craggy dagger]

i mean

[jade dust]

Im debating if switching incin

[craggy dagger]

156/100/0/0/252/0
adamant

[dense latch]

i’d change the farig set

[jade dust]

For what?

[dense latch]

use electric seed and psychic over hyper voice

you should also always have parting shot/uturn on incin

so drop either flare blitz or taunt

[jade dust]

mental herb helps against those weezing caly teams

I can lead fari and caly ice, protect caly and trick room with fari

[craggy dagger]

i mean
not all giraffe’s have to run electric seed

i’ve seen mental herb and goggles

[dense latch]

safety goggles is going to be redundant most of the time in a team with electric terrain

[shadow wind]

All because I missed a single Pblades and got Crit a single time

[dense latch]

it’s just what makes most sense in a miraidon team

[dense latch]

you can just lead cir ogerpon and follow me tr

to protect your calyrex from taunt

those teams tend to have koraidon too and if they tera fire they could just flare blitz farig and taunt cir

ogerpon cir covers the most options

[shadow wind]

Like god forbid a guy get lucky

Not even lucky

[jade dust]

For that I have tera water fari

If they lead Kora

[craggy dagger]

fair enough

[foggy lodge]

Don't use supercall slam lol

[dense latch]

use the set that i sent earlier

[jade dust]

WHy

[dense latch]

low kick is really valuable with all these heavy restricteds running around

[next stump]

best lead against CSR/Korai/Weezing for the team is volcarona + CIR IMO

[dense latch]

protect counts as missing

[next stump]

because you can tera dragon rage powder and live the koraidon hit and eat taunt

[jade dust]

Its stronger than wild charge and no recoil damage every turn

[dense latch]

so you’ll take recoil

[jade dust]

Yeah I know

[dense latch]

• chance to miss

[foggy lodge]

If the user misses, the user will take crash damage equal to half of the user's max HP

Xd

That includes hitting a protect

[thorny beacon]

You always mean

[foggy lodge]

And even hitting ground types I think

[dense latch]

yea

it’s a bad move

[jade dust]

So always taking recoil from wild charge is better?

[foggy lodge]

Yeah

[dense latch]

recoil is minimal

compared to the 50% from supercell slam which your opponent will try to bait out once they know you have it

[foggy lodge]

And Hands learns drain punch anyways so

[dense latch]

exactly

[foggy lodge]

A lot of times the recoil is not that big of a deal when you can just recover it

[dense latch]

expanding on this change the tera and item too

bug, ghost or water are all decent and rocky helmet is probably your best bet for an item

[foggy lodge]

The goggles also don't make sense on Incin because you have electric terrain and even taunt so its like having 3 anti powder tools in just one mon

[dense latch]

miraidon should also be tera fairy if you’re doing dazzling gleam

otherwise the damage is not going to be enough

[foggy lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-funny-reaction-meme-stan-twt-horse-gif-5445268815333743861

[jade dust]

I use electro drill more often

dazzling is for coverage

[craggy dagger]

[molten oasis]

Are we still not in vgc?

[forest arrow]

Seniors TCG

So probably another 2 hours

[molten oasis]

Not even masters

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-tenna-deltarune-chapter-3-gif-12082953415188549519

[dense latch]

drift already kills basically everything

gleam is the only spread move you have on your miraidon so tera fairy lets you make the most out of it

[jade dust]

Well that is true

And can use draco meteor on rilla

What about psychic noise on fari tho

It can deny drain punch from iron hands and those giga drain caly s

[dense latch]

that’s valid

you can def go for it

[jade dust]

She doesnt deal that much damage anyway so better to add more utility

[foggy lodge]

I think psychic is better

But its valid

If it blocked leech seed then I would say it's better but for some reason it doesn't

[dense latch]

at least it makes it so it won’t heal from leech seed while the effect is active

[jade dust]

Yeah that too

Psychic does a bit more damage but

Since my Fari is purely defensive

The difference isnt much

Also actually I think incineroar is good in my team. A lot of Koraidons and caly ice arent using clear amulet anymore

So I can slow them down

[molten oasis]

Does it prevent the healing?

Or is that entire interaction stupid and weird

[jade dust]

It prevents the healing and the move to be used

If they click it in that same turn

[molten oasis]

That’s, weird

[left bobcat]

That’s crazy

[next stump]

They can click leech seed even with psychic noise

they just won’t heal

it’s not like drain punch

[jade dust]

Ah

I dont like those stall caly ice builds

I prefer the trick room sweeper

Thats what I always have used and what always will use

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/Yoshiandlugia/status/1934264194808869065

Fiona Szymkiewicz 🏳️‍🌈 (@Yoshiandlugia)

Here’s the team I used to reach Day 2 in NAIC this year with a 7-1 record. Not happy about my finish considering the circumstances. Also apparently my rental was wrong, Okidogi had knock off but my in game team had Snarl. Don’t know what woulda happened if they put me on stream

X · Jun 15, 2025, 2:58 PM

Okidogi rental

[plain drum]

The flex though 😭

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/PokemonTCG/status/1934361616281125294

Pokémon TCG (@PokemonTCG)

✅ LAIC
✅ EUIC
✅ NAIC

Gabriel has now won all 3 International Championships! Congratulations to your #PokemonTCG Senior Division Champion at #PokemonNAIC 🏆

X · Jun 15, 2025, 9:25 PM

Ayo what

[chrome knot]

omg theres oomfie

[foggy lodge]

That's fucking crazy

[jade dust]

Wait he participated in the 3 cups?

[next stump]

holy shit

absolute goat

[dense latch]

that’s insane

marcofiero of tcg

unless they were all this season that would be even crazier

[jade dust]

Wait there are 3 divisions for each cup right? Do all count towards the results?

[dense latch]

he only competes in senior because it’s age based

[jade dust]

How he then won all 3?

Wait

Wolfey is masters right?

For a moment I thought senior was the oldest

[dense latch]

because they’re three different international championships

[jade dust]

I was "If wolfey won one recently how could he have won all 3?"

[dense latch]

gabriel’s in tcg anyways

not vgc

[jade dust]

whast tcg?

[dense latch]

trading card game

[jade dust]

ah

Also one question

All divisions count towards the results of pokemons?

Like if Incineroar is used in all 3 divisions by the champion

That means 3 worlds wins?

[next stump]

No, stats like that are only tracked for the main division, Masters

[jade dust]

Ah ok

[shadow wind]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regibo3-2385522656

I live for these endings

Also Groudon mirror when the other guy has wake is so messed up

[jade dust]

Surprised to see Groudon

[shadow wind]

Why?

He's so awesome and incredibly meta

[dense latch]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[shadow wind]

God forbid a guy be a little delusional

[latent leaf]

Just wait till groudon gets its primal form back

[jade dust]

Kora is just better in every way

Except Groudon has a spread move with 50% accuracy

[dense latch]

i used eleki for 4 months i feel you

[shadow wind]

Excuse me

I would like to see Koraidon live a Glacial lance

[shadow wind]

Yeah like I'm not going to regionals why can't I have a little fun

Also Erik, Volc just put an entire Zama CSR team in a pack

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regibo3-2385533760-e39jicff7b8itobxad9t37a5w4a4qt0pw

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regibo3-2385535386-dn4808gsqh42sykkbsoncdkl18e1inlpw

Both games Volc just killed em

[meager dock]

Guys, dont sleep on choice scarf kleavor as an opener

[shadow wind]

I'm sleeping on it

🛌 🛌 🛌

[meager dock]

I can easily 1 shot fluttermane with it >>

and at least 50-70% 2hko most opening pokemon

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/a-mimir-cat-reversed-gif-16747359482824525043

[shadow wind]

Why was smeargle invented

And why was he of all things in SV

No Cherrim but we got Smeargle

[latent leaf]

I hope whoever made smeargle has a very bad day

[shadow wind]

That's what I'm saying

Without moody it's manageable

But when it gets +2 speed

kms

[shadow wind]

It ain't even that

It's when it's next to scarf Miraidon and then decorates it

Just a couple of guys

Missing moves !

[jade dust]

And worse whoever invented to pair it with Muk

At least tera ghost taunt incineroar disables that shitty strategy

Or clear smog amoonguss/brute bonnet

[shadow wind]

The least I can do is have some humour in it

Kinda impressive that Groudon lived that

[bold geode]

Weird they're showing Masters first

[chrome knot]

fede couldnt change flight

[jade dust]

That was a good U Turn

Marco Silva has a slight advantage

[forest arrow]

Paz 6 goes crazy

[jade dust]

Let’s go Marco

Damn why didn’t he psychic on Mira

Holy shit

Critical knock off on Lunala

Let’s go Marco

[foggy lodge]

Fedecampo won

It's over

There is no way to KO Incin now

[atomic mural]

lets go calyrex dosent win 🔥

[dense latch]

i didnt get that last play from marco

[forest arrow]

PAZ 6 GOES CRAZY 🔥🔥

[dense latch]

unless he just didnt want to win off a crit

[jade dust]

Marco needed to double Lunala instead of spiky shield, Idk why he played defensive

Trick room was over

Tera ogerpon and ivy cludde

Wood hammer Rilla

Would had killed Lunala most likely

[next stump]

Lunala had a defense boost and he was intimidated

He needed to crit the cudgel which is 1/8 chance so not super unlikely

[jade dust]

Yes but tera fire ogerpon gets an atk boost

And hits hard

Ivy cludde deals double damage

[next stump]

+1 76+ Atk Tera-Fire Ogerpon-Hearthflame Ivy Cudgel (1.2x Mask Boost) vs. +1 132 HP / 172 Def Lunala: 114-136 (49.7 - 59.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

This is without intimidate

It’s not coming even close to KOing with Intimidate

[chrome knot]

Dragapult ex Phantom Dive VS 210 HP Fezandipiti ex: 95.2%-95.2% guaranteed 2HKO

[jade dust]

Lunala was at like half tho

Better to take the chance to crit as well because spiky shield was not doing anything there

[next stump]

173HP

I agree with you, take the chance

but he needs the crit is what I am saying

he does not KO without a crit

[jade dust]

In fact it would had been better to save it for later cuz then the ogerpon goes down to fake out

So saving spiky shield for later was better

[next stump]

I think Marco was hoping Rillaboom fainted on the final turn of Trick Room so he would get a free switch in, and when that didn’t happen he panicked and had to think of a new gameplan on the spot

[jade dust]

Yeah he panicked there

But take the change to double Lunala

Even if it didn’t kill was a lot of damage

Which he might have lost anyway but

Better chance to win against ursaluna and incin without wide guard blocking him

[torn parrot]

If wolfey doesn’t bring perish song to worlds he’ll lose

When wolfey con perishes

There ain’t no survivors

Every time wolfey con perishes

Iv only known him to just win

Reg H

Perish win

reg G perish win

Wolds? If no perish LOSE

[jade dust]

Hopefully he does it for the memes

I see it hard to work with double restricted tho

[torn parrot]

He has too
Surely
Only him

[jade dust]

The damage is too much

[torn parrot]

If wolfey doesn’t bring perish he doesn’t have that world champ X factor

[jade dust]

Lunala and caly s can switch for free too

[molten oasis]

Rough miss

Stupid fish lmao

[torn parrot]

This is unfortunate reality

But you know what

They said it couldn’t be done last reg either

🐇

But guess who defied perish song expectations

[jade dust]

Yeah single restricted worked cuz flutter mane and scream tail were uncontested

But both die to an astral barrage

[solid frigate]

Emilio Con Perish

[torn parrot]

Yeah but here’s the thing

[jade dust]

I would like to be wrong

[torn parrot]

The thing is It would make such a good 4 hour video 😭

[jade dust]

But I see Wolfey con perish not happening in worlds

[wild knot]

HUH?! okay pokemon official account https://twitter.com/playpokemon/status/1934394870170263841?s=46&t=iG0xFLhysjMe3DesmHFoEA

Play Pokémon 📍 NAIC (@playpokemon)

Masters Finals... and they were roommates!

X · Jun 15, 2025, 11:37 PM

[solid frigate]

nah Emilio Con Perish 🙂

[jade dust]

If Im wrong then I would be happy

[solid frigate]

This took out of context way to far Pokemon

[torn parrot]

I don’t know you but you seem like a smart fellow

Tho I too wish that wolfey defies all logic and reasoning

[jade dust]

Same

[torn parrot]

And plays perish with his life on the line

🙏

[jade dust]

It’s Wolfey so if someone can make it happen it’s him

He’s the best player of all time

[bold geode]

He won't

[torn parrot]

Baaaaaa

I know he won’t but I want him to

He hasn’t yet realized his gift to defy logic and reasoning with perish song

[solid frigate]

he probably stick with Korai CSR/Lunala

[lofty tartan]

[torn parrot]

Don’t judge my simping

[lofty tartan]

I am.

[solid frigate]

glad i am not the only one judging

[torn parrot]

Stop that 🫵

[lofty tartan]

Too late. Damage done. I don't make the rules, I just play the game. 🤷

[solid frigate]

true

[torn parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-gif-10271429305488134245

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/شوشو-توينك-aventurine-orange-aventurine-cat-gif-1056714501441817406

kek

this NAIC is jusy Italian,Japanese and Spanish domination

[spiral ridge]

melting pot moment

[chrome knot]

me when im a pot

[spiral ridge]

you go girl(?)

[foggy lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/dondozo-pokemon-scarlet-and-violet-commander-ability-tatsugiri-dodonzo-gif-27253428

[twin kindle]

yummm

[dense latch]

get that thing away from me 😭

[chrome knot]

oh do we not see the next seasons schedule….?

[shadow wind]

I'd rather Dozo than either Calyrex

[spiral ridge]

guess not

[torn parrot]

Masterballs are one of those things that are so op that it’s lame

Honestly a show of laziness on whatever pokemon you put it on

[torn parrot]

Dozo is fucking rad

Dozo giri is actually one of my fave gen 9 things

[shadow wind]

Me too

Too bad I love sun even more

[torn parrot]

Sun?

[shadow wind]

Sun teams

[torn parrot]

You ain’t love sun teams 🐇

You love groudon

[shadow wind]

Guilty as charged

[twin kindle]

Ghibyu

[next stump]

Worlds swag this year

[exotic grotto]

Looks beautiful!

[chrome knot]

last year >

however dillon if u want $394837363727 sell ur kit its all pikachu LMAO

[spiral ridge]

i kinda like the jacket of this year

[torn parrot]

When is worlds this year?

[next stump]

it is August 15th I think

[torn parrot]

Gotcha thanks

[solid frigate]

AUGUST 15TH,2024 (In Squidward's Voice)

[spiral ridge]

uhm

this years worlds in 2024 huh

[solid frigate]

i was doing the squidward voice

[spiral ridge]

does

[solid frigate]

the year is from Jaymoji Video

[spiral ridge]

does squidward have a specific thing with 2024

oh

[twin kindle]

Sounds like a very obscure reference

[jade dust]

Lol

[graceful scaffold]

You are very swag. Gottem

[jade dust]

This doesnt work actually

I just realized it

Because Weezing turn off sturdy

So if Koradion 1 shots ogerpon, which it will. weezing can use taunt on caly

[dense latch]

you're right, that's my bad

but at least that gives you a turn to get damage off with caly ice

likely forces a tera on koraidon

cir farig is kinda just a guessing game on who to taunt

and if you tera water farig then your caly ice exposed to flare blitz from koraidon the following turn

[jade dust]

Yes tho tera water Fari is more safe to get trick room going

[dense latch]

just kinda becomes a 50/50 on who they taunt and who they blitz

[jade dust]

Yeah tho helping hand high horse power will 1 shot if they tera fire

Protect caly and trick room Fari is the safest play tho none is really safe

[solid frigate]

gonna put my brain into overdrive

[latent leaf]

Rayquaza

[twin kindle]

Chi Yu full special attack team

[torn parrot]

Ooga banooga

Balooga

Whale

Awwwooga

You know my biggest regret

[solid frigate]

thats literally my first pair i tried lmao

[torn parrot]

My biggest regret is not having the badge erik is wearing right now

):<

[torn parrot]

What now?

[solid frigate]

Whale+Bike

[strange fjord]

why would a whale ride on a bike?

[molten oasis]

calyrex whale rider

gets drizzle a 120 bp spread move and special moxie

[forest arrow]

120 BP spread move that doesn’t miss

[lost sun]

sets up another layer of rain when it kos

[south shuttle]

specs raging bolt

rising voltage kills everything

trust the process

[astral kelp]

AAHAHAA

[real prairie]

Anyone got the full NAIC team sheets?

Also well done to anyone here who competed, sorry I missed it x

[chrome knot]

haiiiii

[torn parrot]

@dense latch I’m so sad erik

That badge next to your name

I want it

[craggy dagger]

[chrome knot]

bwomp

[torn parrot]

Wait I can finish this joke

[chrome knot]

the stinky haii

[torn parrot]

Wait

Miss bunny

That thing that’s also next to your name is that nitro exclusive

[chrome knot]

mhm

[craggy dagger]

not stimky-

[chrome knot]

very stimky

[craggy dagger]

wait are server tags nitro exclusive?

[chrome knot]

i think so?

[torn parrot]

Damn

There’s no hope for me

[craggy dagger]

it’s not nitro exclusive

server tags are available to everyone

[chrome knot]

wait W

[torn parrot]

To get to the other tide

[craggy dagger]

[chrome knot]

????

[torn parrot]

Holy

Okay wait first thing’s first

[craggy dagger]

it’s a goose with a knife-
i just wanted to show off that emoji

[chrome knot]

oooh okay,,,,

[torn parrot]

What server gives you that tag please tell me 🙏

Please link me in DMs

[craggy dagger]

-# and also remind you to stay away from canadian geese-
-# they’re scary birds

[chrome knot]

pfft

they honk n stuff

[torn parrot]

My transformation is now complete

[craggy dagger]

they bite

bite hurty

[chrome knot]

lots of things bite i think

[craggy dagger]

but geese bite hurty…

[spiral ridge]

Sounds like England ones

There was pond near playground and those fuckers were like QTE had to avoid to get there

[chrome knot]

LMFAO

[spiral ridge]

Kid me was terrified

[chrome knot]

irl qte to avoid geese

and they just be honkin

[spiral ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/huge-bear-yakuza5-saejima-taiga-dame-da-ne-gif-25322042

[dense latch]

it's the only one i have i wish i could trade it to you lmao

[spiral ridge]

I failed this qte and the bear fucking mauled me and friends laughed at me

[chrome knot]

LOL

id laugh too dw

[spiral ridge]

:(

[torn parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-punch-ground-punching-ground-it-shouldve-been-me-it-shouldve-been-me-not-him-gif-18069003738146878767

[spiral ridge]

I still won :((

[torn parrot]

You got the best one

[real prairie]

Just seen, not a single Ludicolo at NAIC.

Guess unless we see one at worlds that's my title secured for the year.

Next season, my girl wins a regional 😉

[next stump]

ludicolo legend

[chrome knot]

next season ill actually prep for the events im going to🫡

think for all the regionals i went to i objectively brought the right teams

i just lacked actually caring about what i was actually doing

[next stump]

it seems like you have a really strong group around you too which will help

[molten oasis]

LETS GO FIRST 1600 OF THE FORMAT

https://tenor.com/view/tv-tenna-ant-tenna-antenna-deltarune-gif-9442276538501173676

[next stump]

congrats 🙂

[chrome knot]

my friends are goated i just need to lock in

[dense latch]

hugee congrats!! nice gxe too

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/a81cd2292867fba9 gonna build this ingame

Finally have a team I genuinely wanna stick with lol

[solid frigate]

yooooo welcome to the gang

[jade dust]

Rillaboom is a pain in the ass

How can it survive a helping hand Draco meteor

Die fucking monkey

[next stump]

https://tenor.com/view/glastrier-gif-21054576

one person here gotta understand the references

[balmy glen]

Idt we do

[molten oasis]

I don’t

[zenith pond]

how do you beat caly i trickroom without using a trickroom team

[molten oasis]

Wdym

[solid frigate]

i need to know the dates for January man lol

[zenith pond]

im getting abused on showdown

[next stump]

what team are you using

[molten oasis]

Do show the paste

[zenith pond]

swordfish

[molten oasis]

Ok we need more than that

Like the full team, evs and stuff

Do you know what pokepaste is?

[solid frigate]

Drago you take of this please

[zenith pond]

https://pokepast.es/1c5ae8343dda1df3

[jade dust]

Hope that they are leech seed and use Incineroar

All leech seed caly ice use leftovers

[zenith pond]

idk how to stop rillaboom + caly i lead

[jade dust]

Not clear amulet

[molten oasis]

Why are you Tera dragon Zac

Zacian on swordfish just generally likes Tera fairy

Shed your steel weaknesses and hit harder

[jade dust]

Use Fari and helping hand with your restricted into caly ice

Fari blocks fake out

[molten oasis]

He doesn’t have farigiraf and this isn’t the team for that

Uhm, ok

[solid frigate]

shrekers lets drago cook

He plays swordfish more than most of us

[molten oasis]

Are you struggling with like hard CIR TR or like Mirai CIR

[dense latch]

accept tr is going up and leverage your amoonguss

[next stump]

yeah, your key to winning is tera water amoonguss IMO

[zenith pond]

i would like to build a farigiraf team with cali s but i want to believe in swordfish

[molten oasis]

It’s good

[next stump]

it's a little tricky into Miraidon though

[molten oasis]

I very much believe in swordfish

[zenith pond]

i dont struggle with miraidon

[molten oasis]

No like miraidon CIR

[zenith pond]

yea i dont

[molten oasis]

you can’t spore CIR in the terrain which makes slowing down CIR rough

[zenith pond]

just the hard trickroom

[molten oasis]

And tr is bad for how fast the team is

So, CIR Kyogre teams?

[bold geode]

Swordfish is real, not a myth

[molten oasis]

Again you leverage your amoonguss for that

[jade dust]

What is swordfish?

[bold geode]

Amoongus is gonna be big yeah
And Hands if you have it

[molten oasis]

Zacian Kyogre

[jade dust]

Chi uh?

Ah

[molten oasis]

It’s zacian’s best partner

Anyway

[zenith pond]

ill check what yall say in a little bit gotta do a quick drive

[jade dust]

How tho? How do you deal with the groudons around?

[molten oasis]

You could forgo scarf on the shifu for mystic water shifu and then taunt

[solid frigate]

Kyogre.

[bold geode]

Kyogre naturally

[molten oasis]

Literally Kyogre’s entire job

[solid frigate]

literally with sun it still does 40%

[bold geode]

Still does neutral damage to Groudon even in Sun

[jade dust]

But sun is a pain in the ass for kyoger

[molten oasis]

Ok, win the weather war

[bold geode]

If it's Koraidon maybe

[molten oasis]

Sun vs rain is all position based

Koraidon is a lot harder for swordfish

Lots of mind games

But generally you want to bait koraidons tera with zacian

[jade dust]

Well I guess you can help it with tornanus rain dance

[bold geode]

But Groudon is easy cuz Groudon is fucking cheeks

[molten oasis]

Then hit it with kyogre

[molten oasis]

This team is moon

So no rain dance

[jade dust]

Moon?

[molten oasis]

Roaring moon

[jade dust]

Roaring moon?

[molten oasis]

Did you look at the paste man

[jade dust]

Oh

[bold geode]

I never saw a paste tbf

[jade dust]

Wait why roaring moon over tornadus?

[bold geode]

Helps with Sun

[jade dust]

^

[dense latch]

.

[jade dust]

I didn’t see the link either

[bold geode]

There we are

[jade dust]

Wait you have amoonguss

[next stump]

https://x.com/eternalsnowman/status/1934655114763227522?s=46&t=fDxHQLlKCKU_ddfszOAZ6w

EternalSnowman (@EternalSnowman)

Welcome to the Meta Snapshot, after a huge weekend of Pokemon at NAIC! We saw Europe (especially Italy) and Japan dominate the competition, and a lot of old teams succeed in the new landscape. Let's break it all down!

1/12 🧵

X · Jun 16, 2025, 4:51 PM

[bold geode]

Oh yeah
TR is gonna leverage on Hands and Amoonguss

[jade dust]

That shuts down caly ice

[bold geode]

Korai Lunala has been so disappointing

[molten oasis]

Zacogre falls to C, unfortunate

Makes sense tho

[bold geode]

Oh Ho Oh
How you have fallen

[molten oasis]

How the fuck did groudon get up there

[bold geode]

There was like
I think 8 Mirai Groudon in Day 2

[molten oasis]

Oh really? I had no idea

[bold geode]

More than double Korai Lunala in Day 2

[dense latch]

never would've expected something like mirai pagos higher than korai lunala

[molten oasis]

Fair lmao

[bold geode]

That's how you know Korai Lunala is ass
Groudon did better

[bold geode]

The Mirai Pagos team is real

[molten oasis]

That duo is just not it, it probably needs a different approach

Korai Lunala

[solid frigate]

how-

[molten oasis]

Oh I ran into the Pagos Mirai team

I won but it’s really annoying

[bold geode]

Honestly I can probably beat it but I have no idea wtf to do to even get there

[molten oasis]

I just apply pressure

But that’s also what that team is good at

But yea it’s rough

[jade dust]

I mean it’s just one tournament

[dense latch]

i used to struggle bug my way through it but now that i changed my volc set idk

[jade dust]

Meta flows very rapidly

[molten oasis]

Idt it did well in Portland either

[bold geode]

But I'm also happy for the team
Cuz someone else besides me realized that Incin Sinistcha was a crazy duo

[dense latch]

well yea no NA players are really using it

it's a eu team, there were a few in cut in bologna

[molten oasis]

Ah, fair

[jade dust]

No wonder I have seen a lot of caly shadow zama so often in high ladder

[molten oasis]

Ok but top cut of NAIC had no uh

American players, idk

[bold geode]

Best duo there is, of course you'll see it

[jade dust]

But it has a disadvantage to mira caly ice

[bold geode]

Nah

[molten oasis]

I know for sure miraidon Lunala has a planet sized target on its back

[jade dust]

I can go trick room mode and it’s pretty easy MU

[molten oasis]

And it’ll win anyway cuz it’s very strong

[bold geode]

Mirai Caly Ice is honestly fine for Zam CSR, I can beat it pretty easily
Now Mirai Lunala?

[dense latch]

csr zama vs mirai cir is neutral i feel like

depends on the non restricted pieces

like if you have a volcarona as the mirai cir player it's gonna be more favorable

[jade dust]

Well I lead fair and Mira, if they lead Zama, it nearly gets 1 shot by a bolt switch

I do bolt switch and trick room Fari

And bring my caly ice

[bold geode]

Yeah Volcarona for Mirai Ice Rider is great
But like
For example the team that won Utrecht?
Pretty one sided for CSR Zam

[molten oasis]

Yea

[dense latch]

yea first thing mdb said about the team was how that was a horrific mu

[molten oasis]

Theres also the miserable world of zama CSR mirrors

[bold geode]

Step 1: Nasty Plot
Step 2 profit

[dense latch]

sash csr makes my mu a bit easier bc i can just grimm volc and get qds up

but if it's nasty plot i get outpaced

[jade dust]

Fari is also terrible for csr

You get a free trick room

[bold geode]

Lorb Tera Dark CSR is the one correct set

Not really a fan of the Sash sets

[jade dust]

Also foul play does above 50% HP lol

Even with 0 atk csr

[bold geode]

Will say though HH Tera Ghost Astral from a Sash CSR is no joke
But none of those teams run HH

[jade dust]

It can be scary yes

Iron hands can take like 3 astra barrages

But not from tera ghost

[molten oasis]

Well iron hands is just

Fat lmao

[jade dust]

Yes lmao

Literally

[bold geode]

And you miss out on damage without Lorb

[jade dust]

Thank God it doesn’t learn wide guard like hariyama does

Or else would be way too broken

It’s already a top tier

[molten oasis]

It wouldn’t use it

I think

Or it be like a separate set

[jade dust]

Would be with a different item

[molten oasis]

I think av will be the way to go on it for a long time

[jade dust]

Obviously

[molten oasis]

Yes, probably clam

[jade dust]

Clam?

Oh clear amulet

Wide guard, fake out, drain punch, wild charge

It also beats opposing miraidons

[molten oasis]

Probably smth like that

It’s hard to know cuz it, doesn’t get it

[jade dust]

Drill is like a 3HKO

Iron hands just needs 2 drain punch

[real prairie]

https://www.ign.com/articles/distraught-pokmon-fan-lost-1000-hours-and-20-years-of-progress-during-switch-2-system-transfer-proving-need-for-pokmon-home-to-save-beloved-creatures

[chrome knot]

uhm

you can data transfer whenever…

[jade dust]

@solid frigate

[jade dust]

What am I looking at

[next stump]

woah walking wake kinda sick on double weather team

[chrome knot]

walking woke

[jade dust]

Both sun and rain tho?

Kinda weird

But yes wake the goat

[next stump]

yeah I haven't seen one of those since sword shield

https://pokepast.es/7841a441920751ad

LOL one person brought kyogre/groudon to NAIC

[jade dust]

eject pack groudon....

I feel like this is a troll team

tera poison whale as well...

[molten oasis]

Poison is nice for rilla zama

I’ve thought about it before

[bold geode]

For what?

[molten oasis]

Ogre

[bold geode]

Aight Dillon talk to me
We think NAIC and Worlds are gonna be similar or you think there's more variations like last Worlds to be seen

[next stump]

I think it’s going to be very different

It’s so small this year, only 400 invites got sent out

[solid frigate]

its the best tera for these two cuz you auto wall Rilla

[next stump]

That means players really really want to win because on paper it’s “easier”

[molten oasis]

Think people are gonna take the strongest stuff fs, and work on a Mirai Lunala mu I think

[bold geode]

But at the same time you can argue the caliber of the crowd can be a bit higher

I figured it wouldn't be too far off
I mean teams at NAIC looked pretty good
Idk how much more polished they can really get

[molten oasis]

We never know

[bold geode]

I mean there still should be some teams from NAIC at Worlds cuz like
I feel there's a decent amount of teams there that are like
Not broke in a sense

But they can change

[molten oasis]

Well yea, the Mirai Lunala team will likely show up

[bold geode]

Imo teams rn definitely feel more polished than like for example a last year's NAIC

[molten oasis]

That’s probably due to lots of reg g tbh

We had a lot of info going into reg I

[bold geode]

Yeah but honestly like idk if it's just me
But I feel like a pretty good chunk of the knowledge we had from Reg G just didn't apply to I

Leech Seed Calyrex was never big then, Miraidon usually ran Specs unless on like one specific team, probably other things too

[molten oasis]

mirai doesnt run specs as much cuz it doesnt need to be the solo powerhouse

[bold geode]

Like I honestly think you can't really compare the two Regs or think of them as similar formats

[molten oasis]

thats not what i was saying

i was more saying that like reg i was easier to start and pick up because we have expereince from reg g and had ideas on how to build some teams

with restricteds

[bold geode]

Yeah idk
Point is like
We had certain expectations or notions going into I where like for example Mirai Ice Rider would always dominate with Arubega like build or some other things and like
Honestly yes while some of the teams we see were built off of preconceived cores in a way, at the same time it's like we were also kind of wrong on some as well

[molten oasis]

well yea i agree with that

[left bobcat]

Baked potato

[bold geode]

Yeah
I honestly feel like it's been a bit of a new format in a way cuz of that
Like there is old stuff sprinkled in but like there's still new stuff
It's pretty interesting and I can't wait to see what developments happen between now and Worlds

[turbid vale]

can anyone make a team with gholdengo for me?

[rustic mountain]

🤨

[solid frigate]

dengo is ass in this format currently

[jade dust]

its only good without restricted

[chrome knot]

losing to full para in sets on my fucking flight home how do i escape this crutch mon

in the backrooms

[molten oasis]

Alr my team is ready to go for cart ladder

[molten oasis]

wtf lmao

[dense latch]

power crept hands and power crept incin all in one team 😭

[jade dust]

Wouldnt powercreep hands be hariyama?

[dense latch]

that too

[jade dust]

Conkeldurr is even worse

[left bobcat]

After 2 years it finally hit me