#competitive_discussion
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im just a team aqua propagandist
groudon when Kyogre and Koraidon won an Event
In his defense he’s been sleepy lately
almost all the top restricteds are
But Miraidon’s electric terrain is going to wake him up
Its just Groudon’s defensive play on sun is not good enough for this format
Hey, Torrent. Can I dm you?
😔
its alright
He’s just a really cool guy what can I say
Korai>Kyogre>>>>>>Groudon
i love groudon
its my favorite legend
but sometimes u gta know wen something isnt it for comp
Heck Giratina is my favourite Legendary and he sucks
You’re definitely right about that
But since I’m here to have fun I might as well use a mon I like
like i said b4 thats fine
And it’s not he’s unusable like some other Restricteds
u just cant expect top results from a mid tier restricted
Oh yeah dreams of consistently being good have been out of the picture for a while now
i think single restricted was a lot easier to shore up groudons weaknesses cuz sun has so many strong options
now not only are the sun options more restricted w/ another restricted joining the fray it also exploits groudon even further cuz it rarely can keep pace
Yeah double restricted has definitely been tougher
I mean there is Always Primal Groudon in Champions
But I think I’m onto something with the most recent team
Iron bundle has actually been really dope
😔
mirai/bundle for kyogre?
Somewhat yeah
There’s more reasons but that is a big one
I like it over Flutter because no speed ties
I had also tried AV Miraidon but the team felt too passive
yea i can see that
i think u can afford bulkier slower specs mirai w/ screens grimm
Probably yeah
Finding the balance for that is hard
Cause fast is great but I don’t need fast
Specs Miraidon has been putting in work though
It is actually insane
given speed control w/ bundle and the screens grimm and intimidate incin idk i think its not necessarily a balance more something that just makes more sense for the team given what u have
ok atp is just my team but slower
What?
u still keep specs but why have it be so speedy and sp atk heavy? hit ur break point and then invest in the bulk

yea
What do bulky Miraidons usually hit with their speed?
1 sec
Miraidon @ Choice Specs
Ability: Hadron Engine
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 HP / 52 Def / 36 SpA / 148 SpD / 20 Spe
Modest Nature
- Electro Drift
- Draco Meteor
- Dazzling Gleam
- Volt Switch
this is what adi used at milwaukee
i know this is a legit set but
could prolly toggle some evs out of bulk and into speed/sp atk but this was a grimmsnarl/ho oh team as well so i get the overload on the bulk side
Looks like the default miraidon evs nowadays
thats insane

“That’s Groudon,We are in Italy,We are in Bologna’s Special Championships”
Love that line
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My goodness this match was annoying
I had a few bad turns that almost made me lose
leech seed CIR sticks around forever
yay
Yeah whoever came up with that idea is insane
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unkillable
gm
Where you going today
toronto
Herro everyone 🍠
You didnt have any setup move?
Pog
We gonna fuck up another local
Or see Kat
what
An invitational?
yeah Toronto VGC is hosting an invitational with $1200 prize pool and today is the last day to qualify
what does this mean lol
Ain't Kat in Toronto or am me dum
shes from denver
Oh
Me dum 
yeah…
woaa
kat can come through we're playing randbats for money
he has been to 0 locals since he moved but i think his job is uber stressful
who
cybertron
would make sense i think
are you coming for extended visits later this year?
LOL
I come back from my break and see 3/5 stream sets have had players who’ve danced with my aunt in crutches.
anyone know what this means??
is that some EU saying
Holy shit the Pokemon version of the Morris brothers just dropped
lmao its literally just toxic leech seed
What a fucking game
It means the person who tweeted found the games of the tournament really boring and lacked skill!
the Shadow Rider Plot Armor Continues
Marco what are you doing
Does moongeist bypass friend guard?
This move and its effects ignore the Abilities of other Pokemon.
Ghost
Special
100
100
5 (8)
Any adjacent Pokémon
Generation 7
Copied by Mirror Move.
Does not make contact.
i think so?
Maybe?
Check the damage calc
ELECTRIC SEED PAGOS
This is a team of all time
I checked it and the friend guard reduces damage
But maybe is something weird from the damage calc
I’m not suppose to see this
I say it because in the round of Luca vs Lorenzo the moongeist dealt almost the same damage without Clefairy and with Clefairy
chat i might try this duo
@chrome knot I like Marco's hair help
Tbh I think Marco is using it to see how well he can do with bad teams lol
i mean 6-2
5-2
6-2 assuming he wins here
oh yeah
I don't think he can win this now lol
why am i being pinged for this
SCALE SHOT???
HELP ME HE'S HOT 
i cant help im not into boys😭😭
LMAO
5 WITHOUT DICE
That's the crazy
why are they chinese lol
live more hits lol
Marco not looking very happy
Yeah that was kinda rough
Still a safe play from Matteo there though
Very safe play
I think Matteo probably takes it from here
i mean not Using Terapagos’s Tera is kinda also a problem
Man that's just rough there
exactlt
I mean
They need to double up into Sini
Actually we can chip away now 
Eh Snarl Astral cleans Sini
honestly if not for Scale Shot
Miraidon would not need to tera in both games
Their aunt got some serious moves
Time to tune into stream
and this is why Sinischa+Terapagos lead would be more better in such a way
Been all sorts of upsets so far this reg
Rookie took Portland with that Kyogre team, that was pretty cool
which rookie
Gavin Michaels is not a rookie
I thought this was his first season
He was banned previously
I believe that was his 3rd regional win and he won the Oceania International Championships in 2023
But he is an international champion
Ohh ok didnt know that
He was banned for a year but came back around EUIC this year?
Yeah
Or wait this wasn't that guys name, we are talking about different people and I may be thinking other than Portland, lemme look
Cary D'Ortona
Yeah he got 3rd but still
Maybe they just want rookies like me to feel mor comfortable so we lose easier lol jk
Yeah I was jk
pokémon is awesome because anyone can have a really deep run
you just need to practice a lot and get lucky lol
Yeah I was pretty confused with things at first and many times was like I am not gonna do this but after watching so many games, tip videos, and running some rental teams in ranked I've started to be able to watch and be like "well I could have this to counter that" and what not so starting to get it a little bit. I need to start running my teams on Showdown though, I am just not going to get very serious about it until gen 10
smart way to go about it, everyone’s first tournament is always about feeling it out
It just sucks I got back into Pokemon right after the Louisville regional, and I live in Louisville like a mile from the convention center lol
I didn't even know there had been a regional until I finished S/V in January and started watching competitive
😦 that does suck
hopefully they have an Indianapolis or Louisville again next year for you
Yeah for sure
Gavin is one of the unclest uncs in the whole vgc scene bro
unclest unc for today
wait until he gets Unc Hands
wdym wait
Good, some improvement is being made
I will say yeah Showdown is absolutely your best friend too
Yeah the child is watching unc cook
And I'm watching a child cook more than me 
Is it true that Justin Tang is 33 or is just a joke
joke
it’s in reference to some guy on reddit calling justin a player over 30 or smth
I mean if you think about it it actually makes it more impressive that he’s above 30
We’re trolling
I mean Wolfe is also over 30 if I'm right
Wolfe is 30 or turning 30 I forget
a lot of the players have just been playing since they were a lil jit so
He is 29 rn i think
Yeh
Take: his Wiki page should be a Glickipedia
I put my answer in, which is that I can't pick
That’s the world champ difference baby
Do people run 124 modest Evs on Miraidon to mess with Timid Miraidon calcs?
Maybe
Is there anyway to search for a specific Pokemon in there?
wasnt that the team marco silva was using
i dont think so no
THERE IS A TORTERRA
3 whole Groudons, we're not making moves 😔
wtf lol
Torterra no wide guard is kinda shocking
peak
That's super standard
oh i need to save this 
Why's that?
me?
I've been wanting to use Zard for so long
ive been using groudon lunala on the ingame ladder for a bit w/ mane and bolt but haven't found 5th and 6th that feel good for me
Like 3-5
Groudon user mentioned?
i just don't see what zard does better than chi yu
Ground immunity
What the Pawmot
yeah its fun, i like groudon
conner you should try this one out
😭
Low sweep Ogerpon
One restricted???
Hold on they are onto something
wtf is that lmao
fire memory??
Tanga berry wuaksjdk
THE AIR BALLOON ROTOM FAN LMAO
This had to be a troll
I think it's just an incorrect team sheet
Tera flying air balloon rotom
i dont get why these ppl pay the fee to run these teams
Bro hates the ground
This one is free
They played all rounds
Yeah special event so no gambling
ohh ok
yea this still lol
ig it doubles as a spectator
But like why
Erik if you make a paste with evs I will try it on Bo1 ladder
Unless you have the venue at 10 minutes of your house it's impossible to understand for me
is there any araquanid 
Probably not but maybe
bro understands the assignment
Guys why do people run 236 HP evs on Miraidon instead of 252
Physical defense calcs
Interesting
So a set like this is kinda unoptimal
Miraidon @ Choice Specs
Ability: Hadron Engine
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 HP / 28 Def / 116 SpA / 4 SpD / 108 Spe
Modest Nature
- Electro Drift
- Draco Meteor
- Dazzling Gleam
- Volt Switch
Thundy T is fun
I thought I lost more games than I did
What's that for?
day 2 bologna prob
Ah ok
Is CSR clef coming back 
I've seen it more recently that's for sure
no araquanid 
2 Groudons 😔
only 1 dozo in day 2 the world is healing 🙏
On god
Wait I've had an account at 1470 on Bo3 ladder this entire time
When did I do this
Holy elo
You literally have a move for that 😭
bro is not cooking
glacial lance resist maybe
I guess
Lmfao what
Lmfao
u turn miraidon...
Zacian? Idk lmao
if there was weather ball then id understand-
It's on a Kyogre team
They kinda got hogwashed(1100 elo)
nevermind
They also had perish trap
heh
252+ SpA Tera Fire Tornadus-Therian Weather Ball (100 BP Fire) vs. 252 HP / 44 SpD Calyrex-Ice in Sun: 198-234 (95.6 - 113%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO
ive seen people like that spore in electric terrain
Ok tbf sometimes you just gotta go for it
I spored with the treat of Mirai just to like, try and put smth to sleep cuz there was no terrain
He switched on me ofc but it wasn’t doing much else that turn
https://pokepast.es/1645a0f2be8c2e83 ok but this is peak gaming
Discharge wide guard is cool
Ah heck nah my Miraidon just outsped a Zacian
I'm slow Miraidon too

How slow?
Like 20 speed invest?
Ok maybe not that slow
108 invest
This guy has the coolest team but it's just not good
bro has no speed investment
108, hm
So literally no invest
yeah
Why is that zacian any slower than 189 lmao
Yeah I run 169 for Lando
whats the rest of their team
(189 outspeeds 205’s if adamant:modest)
So does 188
did the sceptile have unburden electric seed
Speed creeping is nice
Yeah
makes sense
Struggle bug Volc might be my goat
116+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Tera-Electric Miraidon Helping Hand Electro Drift vs. 252 HP / 196 SpD Calyrex-Ice Rider in Electric Terrain through Light Screen: 209-247 (100.9 - 119.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
i dont think room service activates defiant
It doesn't
just asking, just masuded a shiny tyranitar, my favorite pokemon, and i wonder is there is a good team 4 pvp :)
oh
Dang this is better than scary face
I saw that once
awful day to be an emma fan
what happe
didnt qualify
mental health hits an ultimate low
and im considering just spectating naic instead
bc i learnt how much i just cannot control my emotions
happens idk
i live in a world of infinite shortcomings so this doesn’t surprise me one bit
I hug

i hug

When Peach is at Bowser's castle for the 35th time in a week
bro just learned club penguin is kil
“The princess is in another castle”
I'm currently at 11-1 right now and honestly that's chill for Groudon
Sir how do you fuck up so hard
That's what I'm wondering
Like you could've stopped
At any point
Not me not me
Like just in that account
Trust it ain't me 🙏
THEN WHO
Some guy I played
i keep being stuck around 1150 BO3 so i cant judge for shit
You can do "/rank (Username)" in the chat and you can see their games
I finally made another team that is carrying me right now so we'll see how long it lasts
Nah 50% GXE is like borderline
Anything below that and you just need to do some research before booting up ladder again
i wanna play cm cloak csr @ naic
Do that with Clef
We changing teams again?
after today i dont rly care how naic goes
I also had some early carpal tunnels signs for a while
For me, it was a posture issue and changing up my position while gaming and working on my PC helped immensely
The wrist just aches now, I have to work with that hand for like 5 more hours and unfortunately this job is too busy so there’s no way I’m getting it off early
Gonna try and go to the er tomorrow tho
Drago probably got gremlin posture
Probably tbh
hey bebe
if someone could help me get the flip turn or knock off tm i'd be greatly apricated
Yippee !
You want the paste for this?
It's cloak
Alright then I can close the game?
noo?
I just mean for ideas
I'd feel guilty if I didn't share the idea
The idea that you already had
But regardless
Like why is this guy allowed(Ice rider)
This poor guy
His CIR just died turn one both games
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I think around 3 hours from now?
So what’s the consensus on needing shifu for kyogre teams?
Cuz I don’t agree with it but the results at regionals tell me otherwise
i think its weird to not have it
Why
great rain abuser that hits on the physical side
Why not use the most broken non restricted mon of all time with a 50% boost
has the ability to create strong pins
i mean do i really need to sell u on urshifu? lmao
i feel like its obvious the synergy
No ik why it’s strong it’s just annoying cuz it’s overlap with kyogre I kinda hate dealing with
some teams have weakness overlap
Then it’s up to amoonguss to keep both safe from stuff like bolt irs annoying
doesnt take away from the value ur getting from it
It’s taking both to a game I get annoyed about. I generally like teams with more widespread coverage
Like on my current team I’m flipping between lando and shifu because of either wanting ground coverage which is awesome with zacian or shifu because it’s broken
And I can’t afford both
Had wellspring but, amoonguss is like required for these teams as well so i dropped it
Do I just sound like an idiot is that what’s happening
Cuz i feel like and idiot
its ur mon choice thats making it weird
What is weird about the Mon choice
basically how u have ur guys slotted
why power whip wellspring btw
kyogre-zacian are the top guys right. then u have shroom and incin for defensive pieces, moon for speed control and urshi/ando rotating for the other offensive spot
Zacogre, moon is my tw setter, amoonguss for redirect and incin for damage mitigation and fake out, then the other damage dealer and its supposed to be shifu but I’ve gotten more mileage out of lando at times
u basically have it where 1 switch is making u have to move too much around to accomadate something it wouldnt. the team cant be perfect so u either accept the flaws of whatever iteration ur locking into or go back to the drawing board if it just isnt hitting that right amount of consistency
Lando has been
Like I don’t have issues with lando, or anything tbh I’m just kinda annoyed I have to add shifu because I don’t have a rain abuser

Those 6 were a team at Utrecht
kyogres a self enabler but at the same time urshifu opens up different optionality u otherwise wouldnt have
especially w/ something like scarf
u have 2 grass weaks cool u also have 4 resists to it
I worry about mons specifically usually unless it’s like
I have 4 weaknesses to _ and no resists
My worry is Tera electric bolt/mirai
That’s given me issues before, lando is solid into both
i feel like w/ zacian and moon u should be fine. they either commit gleam w/ mirai (unlikely) or u just tw w/ moon and protect zacian to pressure the following turn
also have shroom for redirection
lando is that easy answer u think u need but u dont
like ppl imprisoning tr instead of just playing better
well its less for knock off and more for speed control
not really for zacian more for kyogre + ur back mon
ig
id also say to try rilla since double fake out and terrain override is pretty nice
no usually Zac is enough for Mirai/bolt, it’s just a headache to hear “you don’t have a rain abuser add shifu”
arguably a top 3 non restricted and ur team supports it, it might be annoying to hear but it is good for that

im not saying point blank lando on ur team auto makes it an easy out
First local time tomorrow time to get fucking cooked
but wen u boil it down to oh hey its good into this 1 thing it kinda isnt that great into its like, yea in that case ur just looking for a quick fix
I mean I do that a lot tbf
but like vgc is rarely, oh let me put this guy on and itll always get me this 1hko or w/e
especially w/ meta progression and things constantly being optimized
Ik
Idk I also haven’t played that team in a minute
Was messing with thundy t and did like, really well with it
Like not focusing on improving with it just like here and there playing
thundy is interesting
Definitely could have pushed more and it’s ofc not bo3 but
I was shredding through teams lol
Yes
tf u abandon it for lol
Uhhhh
tree can i bring lurantis to naic
https://pokepast.es/4e52a4966fb2cc07 here’s the team
u can, idt itll get u many wins tho 
Not even arguably it just is lmao
thas okay
Besides the run I did with CSR Zama
she sit pretty on the table
u know im a big csr/zama fan
dubs

I can see why lol
It’s pretty meh
yea
nothing feels fun
It’s not bad but miraidon every game gets old
whats felt strong for u tho
got used to a team the second everyone got hard making counterplay to it
And if it’s not Mirai it’s CSR lol, or both 
so now immm nowhere
ahhh shit
i would say this emma, dont get too overwhelmed ive heard so many stories of ppl coming up/figuring out teams even days before an event. not that u have to follow suit but i wouldnt overly stress about figuring it out asap. just try as many things out as u can for now and take it from there
Like it really doesn't varied
Ik one person that genuinely likes the format

Even with reg G there were more variants for restricteds and more like niche interpretations for each restricteds
I shall always offer zacogre
who
Monke
ew
Yea lmao
Now it feels like every duo has a core and you just pick a 6th niche one to fix MUs
not stressing im like just at nothing
im so turned off by the format and recent results that i really dont care
u try any weezing stuff? that might be kinda fun 
i bombed last chance quals so any feel good abt yourself goal was tossed out
Weezings pretty strong rn
my mental is at like a new low for some reason and idk how to fix so like naic is super chalked for me
Just work on improving your mental, it’s not something you just fix
i literally cant
It's super valid to feel that way
im gatekept by bpd
Do you have any idea of like why? Like a burnout or just not too much motivation by the format?
Ah, yea that’s rough
i habe no fucking clue bruh
sorry to hear that but theres always next year/szn. its tough but u cant have ur mental health be tied into how well u do in competitive, its too volatile for that. maybe best to do wat ur thinking and just chill and have fun going to naic and hanging out
im at a point where
NAIC was fun last year and New Orleans has, some fun things to do
sometimes im not in control of emotions bruh they just kick my ass for fun
today was a good example of that
im on the fence of even playing vs spectating and going sightseeing w/ kat
yea thats just being human it can suck for sure. its just about taking it as they come and not necessarily getting too hung up on them as they come and go. its definitely not easy. we are a species ruled by emotion
unlucky mental illness spawn bruh
Shit happens

Have you been to New Orleans before?
id say to go w/ what feels like ud enjoy it more
id feel bad if i didnt play
even if its brining lurantis and bullshitting for day 1
What if you day 2ed with Lurantis
not the same comparison bruh
lurantis isnt even a bad mon per say, its just outclassed like most mons atm
It’s the only one I could think of
That’s, somewhat relevant rn
Ig basc just won a tournament, idk
ive been takin a break from reg i past cppl weeks
playin another turn based game

Oo?
should be me tbh
Which
Expedition 33?
super auto pets
made the mistake of leaving the house today to catch a train @ 5am
AYYYY
What is that?
a goated game
That looks cute
It is
idk how to explain it, u get a team of 5 pets and theres like 500 of them w/ different abilities and such and they are relegated to specific tiers and each turn u get the chance to level up pets from that tier to gain access to ones above that
Turn based are fun
So it’s pokemon with different tiers
eh kinda but also no
Are you like messing around with friends or actually just grinding online
grinding online
sleepy
i do customs arena a lot, sometimes versus, weeklies are fun
a new pack just dropped so a lot of us been grinding that
Ic
maybe I’ll check it out. I’m starting baldurs gate tonight, if my hand doesn’t ache like hell when I get home
I never got into it that hard just fun 1v1 with friends
its free to play, theres other packs that lock certain pets behind them u gta pay for but u get access to 1 free pack, some customs pets and weeklies which can be an assortment of pets randomly generated from all the packs
I just did free pack
I HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL MONDAY TO GET THIS CHECKED OUT?!
Me and friend played a lot for like a week
r u mormon
:(
was that like 2021-2022 era?
No
Yuh why?
feel sap had a huge uptick in those years
from ludwig and some other content creators
I’m gonna have to go first thing in the morning ig, maybe I’ll get lucky and get out of work OR it’ll be healed
(It won’t idt that’s how this works)
gl
Take care
Ty
Night time for me I gotta wake up to drive tomorrow
It's always fun to mix and match new units with old in the Abomination melting pot!
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prolly will make ur head explode as its pretty dense in mechanics after 6 packs now released
but this is the gameplay
I can have a snow leopard? 👀
Oh god I can only imagine I barely understood then
yep it just got released its fun
SAP is so dope
yes
Is it a mobile game?
u can play it on desktop too but yea its mobile
I’ll probably play on my phone most likely
I mostly play on mobile
Although I haven't played for a while
There should be more bug moves that are like struggle bug
It's snarl but better
Holy elo gain
Dang that was their game for 80% and they lost it to Groudon
What a shame
@spiral ridge good luck tomorrow in case I forget
LMFAO
GOOD LUCK BITCH, HE'S SEEN MY TEAM 
LOL
I had to get my CSR advice somewhere bro, idk wtf I'm doing with this horse
Brother I've been speaking on tweaking the horse with him myself 
The tweaks we've made, he's already done probably
Fuckkkk
Wanna like
Tell me the tweaks..
Just lock in and pray brother, it'll be alright
I just did the same thing Emma did
Made horse faster
I haven’t missed a single e web yet
If I miss during this
I’ll cry
Oh I’m sure I’m just terrified
queued the first game in bo1 accidentally and forfeited
He puts his pants on the same as you
gl stella
And then COOKED
?

It's a saying
it is?
Basically he's just another guy like you and me
yes thats a saying
LMAO
Basically don't be scared by the presence
Easier said then done
Yeah just actually y'know what, go full Sponge Gar
he put my pants on or something ass saying
Guys I lost to Erik 😔
LMAO
When body not working
common erik w
Ima go in a fucking kilt show them what’s up
Extremely common Erik W
Yeah that's the secret, just let someone else dress me cuz I'm built different
kat picks my outfits and i lose now should i change my blame to her or
It's not fair he was playing on an account with a friend
any1 watching lazarus
2v1
The outfit wasn't demure, I x-3 dropped
Fs because she set your tone for the day
name of a mario kart team whatdafreak
she set multiple tones for today
its a biblical reference
but also anime from the same creator of bebop and samurai champloo
Oooo
It’s come to my attention you may fight Yotam tomorrow lol
Good luck man
Big funny
I wonder how

Okay now I gotta sleep fr
Gn
ill be bringing sceptile to insert tour city here goodluck to my competitors
Ayo if you eat shit it's not my fault
I can’t even get outta 1100s bo3 im aware it’s about to be a bloodbath
Oh no not your .0001% Pokemon
I learned this reg in like 5 days im taking whatever i can
he was a good sport about it tho
I think it's goofy
I mean hey I played Rayquaza Hitmontop for a month, I can't say shit
God I remember that
all in good fun man, he admitted hes fine w/ the consequence of not backing up the shit he was talking
Okay gn fr
so idc in that sense
Yeah hey he didn't walk the walk
Idk
Fuck it I'm using broken shit we ball
finally
What you mean finally
now we just need to get conner and drago using good stuff
Bitch I been wanting to play CSR Zam
[Message](#competitive_discussion message) in #competitive_discussion
I mean hey I played Rayquaza Hitmontop for a month, I can't say shit
I made Drago play CSR Zam 
haha nice
Whatcha talking about Groudon might be the best

Next tournament I'm bringing my 32.56% usage mon
I been putting people on it, I feel like the magician from the Princess and the Frog
I am a poor sinner
Tho I'm unironically using a like 3% usage mon? Or less
Bro you better watch out for my 41% Pokemon
I love Entei
saw urshi/rilla/incin top 3 useage at some recent tour and was like the boys are back in town
This is just sad to see man
urshi just too good
I'm surprised I haven't seen Single like
Hardly at all
At least at the start he looked BUSTED
i think ppl are underrating it still
Then Lunala fell off
There is my ANOTHER sub 5% usage mon
Nah idk how much is single strike being used rn
Yeah just like Ho Oh eh
i think ppl underrated ho oh
I hate playing against Ho oh
Watch me disrespect Ho-Oh by just using Entei
Frickin good into Groudon too
I think it can do good again soon
Ho Oh is now in my list of good Pokemon, and I have a rule where I just
Cannot disrespect good Pokemon
No matter what state they are in in the meta
Any other orange-ish red-ish restricteds on that list?
Koraidon
Any other sun setters?
Torkoal maybe
Any other gen 3 sun setters?
What Sunny Day Pokemon are in that game
He's not there is he 😔
Castform
Groudon was better in reg G and its so weird
Koraidon just really took its job
i think it had its time
I used Groudonpluff for a while and it felt really strong
It was a low accuracy team kinda
Sleep powder and Pblades
Groudon will be a Pokemon that can cut but not win
Yikes
Mainly just sleep powder and pblades but stomping tantrum just fixed that and I didn't really play Jumpluff for like just sleep powder shit
Like if it's even in the list, it's at the very bottom hanging off a cliff
did conner pay u off?
And I liked chinese sun too but it was too linear for my style
groudon is a day 2 ceiling
I mean results showed it so I'm not gonna doubt that part
Got 9th or 10th at Portland
what else
The boy Junxi
no top cut still
That is cut wym
or wait top 32 is top cut now or wat i forget new format

Behzad I think? Or Aurelién
they keep swapping it lmao give me a break
Old man still behind
I remember two Groudon Miraidon on top cut
Anyways I think there's 10 restricted rn
Wait no Aurelién is in another continent lmao
idk man groudon still mid to me
It is
So you got
- Calyrex Shadow
- Calyrex Ice
- Miraidon
- Koraidon
- Zamazenta
- Terapagos
- Kyogre
- Zacian
- Lunala
- Ho Oh
That is not ordered
i hope not
I honestly can't order em
also groudon not even in ur top 10
Nope
It's at 11 if we extend maybe
Groudon sucks lmao
Maybe
This guy just body pressed my Volcarona 4 times in a row and didn't get burnt
Willingly by the way
If I tried to order
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Hard cuz where do I put Ho oh actually
mirai and csr are #1 and 2 for me
Um
Yeah
Honestly nah
I keep wanting to say #1 is Ice Rider
But I can't this format
Regulation G I could say Ice Rider was the best
Ice Rider wasn't as crazy as Miraidon in G but the consistency
cir 3, 4 korai, 5 zama, 6 kyogre, 7 lunala, 8 terapagos, idc about anything after that
My reg G list was
Damn even in Tree rankings Terapagos is getting 8th
that guy sucks man
Tree did I show you my last tweet
no
1 Miraidon. 2. CIR. 3. CSR. 4 Koraidon. 5. Zamazenta. 6 Terapagos. 7 Kyogre. 8 Lunala. 9 Groudon. 10 Zacian. 11 Eternatus
This guys was +0
frfr
I stg I said that during Portland Day 2
And it got 8th 
dude even marco couldnt day 2 w/ it
When its power herb tho
It's gotten 8th for like
5 streamed regionals straight
Tbf the team was shit
but its marco
Bro
Terapagos is gas and ass at the same time
Anyways
God do I put Zacian above Terapagos
its gas straight from the ass cuz its cheeks
lmao
- Ho Oh I will say it idk if I can put it higher
9 is hmmmm
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Fact is I'm thinking about it this hard so yeah
9. Zacian
8. Terapagos
ho oh is about as 10 as it gets
miraidon
CSR
CIR
Koraidon
Zama
Ogre
Lunala
Zacian
Pagos
Ho-oh
Groudon
That’s mine
I’m biased so Zac got an extra slot up
Ah for reg I
p much same as mine but zacian bias
Yeah something very similar to drago's
Kyogre at 7
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