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#competitive_discussion
bold geode
checkmat e
Do you have walls?
molten oasis
bold geode
https://tenor.com/view/hes-in-the-walls-in-the-walls-wall-muppet-panicking-gif-2...
Bro you smell fuckin horrible
molten oasis
Well ofc I do I just finished working out
molten oasis
Starting one yea
bold geode
How many rest days and when
molten oasis
Just got all my equipment in the mail
3 rest days to start
Gonna work out Tuesday Wednesday Friday and Sunday
bold geode
Good, even though I haven't been as diligent that's mine
Mine usually goes Monday Tuesday Thursday Friday
molten oasis
Nice
I have mine set on days I don’t work except Thursday
Tuesday and Wednesday are my weekend
bold geode
I don't do weekends and Wednesday is an off day
I am gonna probably start back up Tuesday
Was gonna start back up really again this Monday but I was tryna get more rest cuz I've been getting over a head cold
molten oasis
ah,makes sense
bold geode
Now I'm feeling better
My mom gave me this homeopathic shit
It's like a fuckin wonder drug
molten oasis
yo hook me up
bold geode
Ummmmmmmmmmmm
Lemme look it up
molten oasis
i was joking lol
craggy dagger
oh those
bold geode
Yeah I'm taking that and some Mucinex cuz I have to double up on shit but like
I can tell this stuff is doing most the work
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.2
bold geode
Terrain Pulses your mom
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.2
molten oasis
damn lol
chrome knot
balls
molten oasis
balls
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.2
molten oasis
unfortunately galarian stunfisk is dogshit lmao
solid frigate
unfortunately galarian stunfisk is dogshit lmao
its so bad of being a beartrap lmao
molten oasis
the bear trap loses to all bears lmao
lofty tartan
damn lol
If only they didn't take it away from everyone except like Arboliva for Gen 9
chrome knot
played a set into weezing dozo where I forgot unaware was an ability
lofty tartan
That's rough
chrome knot
That's rough
i won but like
molten oasis
kinda sucks the move has such little distribution, its a cool move
chrome knot
I was clicking coaching into cir for literally n oreason LOL
cyan smelt
I've seen people use like nasty plot and swords dance in front of dozo like why
chrome knot
so whos gonna tell her....
lofty tartan
Wtf I just got a letter from my insurance company detailing what I owe from some doctor visits recently, coupled with a paper check for 16 dollars. Weird.
chrome knot
Revengeseekerz00's rating: 1294 → 1319
(+25 for winning)
we made itttttttttttttnwb aejibnfjhawulb ghuaywj
1300 bo3 feels like progress 
lofty tartan
Definitely progress - especially if you've been in a rut
chrome knot
i wanna feel like a learning player not someone who SHOULD be 1400s :c
solid frigate
so whos gonna tell her....
+3 lol
atomic mural
so whos gonna tell her....
you could say shes.... unaware
solid frigate
lol
chrome knot
oops..
craggy dagger
dummy
solid frigate
i have mental issues
near crag
Just thought of a really weird tech, but how do yall feel about tera dark tera blast indeedee as a anti shadow rider tech? It would need to be its only damaging move, but it already stabs normal
near crag
I know, just thinking if its's any better
foggy lodge
Realistically
How often would you need to tera the mon that's usually just a follow me bot?
near crag
fair enough
bold geode
He got top 16 in one of the later Reg G regionals
Think it was Vancouver?
Maybe it was Atlanta
rustic mountain
He got top 16 in one of the later Reg G regionals
Think it was Vancouver?
ahhh ok yea mustve forgot about that one
i was thinkin his reg e regional win
was like ogerpon water gholdengo stuff
rustic mountain
Did he make worlds?
i think so yea
the bar was 500cp for na last szn and he won a regional and had other decent results, i doubt he missed the cutoff
i meant more like
post worlds
foggy lodge
He got top 16 in one of the later Reg G regionals
Think it was Vancouver?
Top 8 but yeah
craggy dagger
and Indeedee has Shadow Ball
tera ghost blast regieleki
lofty tartan
feel like i havent seen him much this szn
I saw him at Toronto pretty sure
heady onyx
Just thought of a really weird tech, but how do yall feel about tera dark tera b...
that sounds like a very clever tech ngl
bold geode
?
bold geode
I saw him at Toronto pretty sure
Was he at Toronto?
@near crag now see
I get what you're going for here
But like
Also a fun fact
If you really wanna do that, it does get Shadow Ball so you don't have to use tera
Though like
Thru other mons you can probably deal with it so idk exactly how often you'd need that
But yeah if you really wanna do that just use Shadow Ball
Lets you do the same thing without having to consume a resource in order to do so
Won't hit as hard but
- Both do 4x damage so you're chunking
- More Shadow Rider are running that Sash rn so like odds of you one shotting Shadow Rider rn like that are probably eh I'll say 40/60 at most give or take maybe
Basically same odds so don't give up a resource if you don't gotta
Shadow Ball
bold geode
was like ogerpon water gholdengo stuff
He did do that ye
bold geode
Also Baek did make Worlds anyways cuz like
Last year was also wins = auto invite
bold geode
https://x.com/mrptpablo/status/1910035036360876535?s=46&t=NSIK9f9OViHUJnm37QZcEQ
Mom come pick me up I'm scared
mighty stump
Just thought of a really weird tech, but how do yall feel about tera dark tera b...
it gets Dark Pulse already too
bold geode
THEY USED AI TO MAKE A VGC TEAM
bold geode
Oh no
mighty stump
@rose stump i thought u moderate this
bold geode
LMAO
rose stump
wait what
mighty stump
just funny r/VGC threads
i thought u have a hand in r/VGC for a while now
if i remember correctly
bold geode
Bro "Calyrex is too weak"
BRO
Wait
How the hell does Noctowl wall Shadow Rider 
This shit is cursed
summer shore
This shit is cursed
Monkey's foot
bold geode
Monkey's foot
You saw my side gig?
summer shore
You saw my side gig?
Woah...
bold geode
Gotta pay these bills
Being a shoe model is something
summer shore
Gotta pay these bills
Being a shoe model is something
Good ending ahh response
lofty tartan
Good god I am in ultra zombie-mode at work now. I have two shifts left at this job and I just cannot be bothered
lofty tartan
Was he at Toronto?
Yeah dude I saw him like in the flesh. I only went to Toronto this year so it's not like I'm gonna mistake it for some other event 
I'm taller than him
I was talking to Kev from Pokesports and he walked by me.
astral kelp
free 2 def :0
mighty stump
free 2 def :0
unless you’re trying to hit a specific benchmark im pretty sure you spare more EVs by just using a +Def nature lol
astral kelp
astral kelp
unless you’re trying to hit a specific benchmark im pretty sure you spare more E...
i actually didnt know evs could be spared like that when i evd it
mighty stump
i actually didnt know evs could be spared like that when i evd it
rule of thumb is to nature boost your highest base stat
unless again, you need specific natures to hit certain breakpoints
That turn 1 was
an interesting choice
lofty tartan
Hey Tofu long time no talk 
astral kelp
an interesting choice
my idea was to try stop trick room
cuz i was expecting fake out trick room
i thought he might fake out pon but since spiky shield was obvious play well
i fell into the overpredict trap
lofty tartan
Giving your opponent a lot of credit there
astral kelp
its adamant
astral kelp
Giving your opponent a lot of credit there
lol yeah bhahah
252+ Atk Tera-Rock Ogerpon-Cornerstone Ivy Cudgel (1.2x Mask Boost) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Calyrex-Ice Rider: 204-240 (98.5 - 115.9%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO
i got unlucky tho rip
also can we talk about this tho
252+ Atk Incineroar Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 36 Def Weezing-Galar: 85-102 (49.4 - 59.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Sitrus Berry recovery like what??
lofty tartan
And then you find out it was banded or something
Just had a regular at my store try to recruit me to his job.
astral kelp
Just had a regular at my store try to recruit me to his job. <:arkeknine:6695004...
honestly worth if any pay increase
lofty tartan
<:KEKW:800390723262349352>
Not higher than the job I'm leaving my current job for. Three dollars less.
astral kelp
💀
solid frigate
Not higher than the job I'm leaving my current job for. Three dollars less.
testing a new team on an alt and i am glad my main is in 1600
bold geode
Yeah dude I saw him like in the flesh. I only went to Toronto this year so it's ...
Bro it CAN'T BE HIM
https://fixupx.com/Pokemon/status/1927712162778099735
ZA release, pog
grizzled island
Competitive team I'm working on atm ^^
solid frigate
not the worst thing in the world
grizzled island
So far it's going pretty well
little plank
Anyone going to midnight release for the switch 2? lol
south shuttle
Anyone going to midnight release for the switch 2? lol
not worth it imo
little plank
not worth it imo
How so?
south shuttle
How so?
i'd wait till the next restock
a lot of people fight in the lines
look at TCG
little plank
My GameStop is here an hour south of Chicago
lost sun
switch 2 releases today?
little plank
I’m going right after work lol
next stump
yooo that's by where I live
little plank
June 5th
lost sun
ah
next stump
I live in the Schaumburg area so more west than south
little plank
yooo that's by where I live
I live in Bradley lol
lost sun
anyone want to trade miraidon for koraidon I've asked in the trading channel and checked the others but no one is
little plank
I live in the Schaumburg area so more west than south
I’m a psychologist for the state so try to live close to the job lol
dense latch
cir kyogre is so fun
next stump
cir kyogre is so fun
100%, I gotta watch the team report from Cary to see how he handles Zama/CSR
Zama/CSR/Amoonguss was annoying for me to deal with
little plank
Zacian ogre ditto is my main 3 lol
dense latch
me and one of my friends made a shared account and went like 15-0
but we switched out jugulis for grimm
dense latch
100%, I gotta watch the team report from Cary to see how he handles Zama/CSR
i just read this again and saw you mentioned the team report in your message lmao i should learn to read
but yea super excited to see them break down every matchup and stuff
little plank
Will gen 10 be the game we finally get a rusty bottle cap?
next stump
but we switched out jugulis for grimm
did you go calm mind kyogre then? or keep the 3 attacks?
chrome knot
i gotta see if stores near me are doing it
my ass is going need rhat day0 mario karting
dense latch
we tried out thunder pulse spout
we're still figuring out sets
seed bomb cir with rillaboom and tera grass is honestly super fun
i wanna revisit iron jugulis eventually though
next stump
jugulis feels really good into CSR teams if they dont have zama
lost sun
Will gen 10 be the game we finally get a rusty bottle cap?
hopefully
dense latch
in our test matches we pulled no csr without zama so that change might've been biased
rustic mountain
csr/zama resurgence 
bold geode
csr/zama resurgence <:MaceDeathStare:729512211726205009>
I dreamed for days like this
chrome knot
leech seed food
bold geode
Think I've beat every Leech Seed Calyrex so far
Maybe lost to one idk
rustic mountain
yea i am not losing to leech seed cir much
bold geode
It's still good but like
Yeah CSR Zam is a lil weird for it
Thankfully a lot either have bike or feesh
bold geode
its like taking bite of cookie
You take the cookie's what now 
chrome knot
cookie good so i have more
molten oasis
chrome knot
until its all gone
rustic mountain
https://pokepast.es/a34c8e1b1f9ddb02 <:jakesexo:1278923370758668358>
tf ursa here for
chrome knot
bc its funny
rustic mountain
bold geode
bc its funny
Cocaine bear funny moments
molten oasis
tf ursa here for
Monke suggested it
I said it needed tr but he doesn’t think the same. It was lando t for a bit
bold geode
molten oasis
<:incin_hey:787169810865324042>
solid frigate
you're two formats late
empty mauve
craggy dagger
prolly better to post that stuff in #surprise_giveaways
jolly iron
craggy dagger
an INTERESTING set of mons here
solid frigate
an INTERESTING set of mons here
+2 Pollen Puff moment
chrome knot
wrong-
emote-
sorry
meanie head :c
solid frigate
oh your team does not have any Physical Attackers besides Urshifu your Pagos MU is cooked
I literally have a Car Battery Wdym
craggy dagger
meanie head :c
sorryyy 
spiral ridge
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regibo3-2373997480
used all my wisp luck
bold geode
@chrome knot 
lofty tartan
Omg I only have two more shifts at work. Tonight and tomorrow. It can't go fast enough
spiral ridge
i feel you 5 school days left and theyve never felt longer
jade dust
Worlds of this year will be the first double restricted right?
next stump
yes, first of scarlet/violet
next stump
Wolfey win would be awesome
jade dust
Wolfey win would be awesome
Yeah it’s been almost a decade since he won worlds
dense latch
Wolfey win would be awesome
would consolidate this season of his as the best of all time for sure
a regional, a gc, an international, AND worlds
atomic mural
does brick break iron hands do anything
molten oasis
No
jade dust
a regional, a gc, an international, AND worlds
What’s gc?
molten oasis
Global challenge
dense latch
grand/global challenge
jade dust
grand/global challenge
Ah those are online events within the own game?
dense latch
yea
jade dust
Not to mention he finally became the first player with 10 regionals
And won the biggest tournament of all time
molten oasis
Has he won a GC?
solid frigate
yes in SWSH
foggy lodge
X
molten oasis
Oh cool
jade dust
Where he used the Koraidon perish trap team
And he used the same for international
bold geode
Has he won a GC?
Technically he won the one before EUIC this year with his EUIC team but cuz he wasn't linked, it wasn't "official"
molten oasis
Ic
foggy lodge
solid frigate
LMAO
bold geode
AYO NEW RENTAL IN #rental_teams AND #self_promotion FROM YA BOY
astral kelp
AYO NEW RENTAL IN <#1054939051364462652> AND <#669470595351707670> FROM YA BOY
im curious, why hearthflame with rain?
oh wait nvm
chrome knot
if i speak i am in big danger
astral kelp
hearthflame for the kyogre mirror is actually such a cook i love it
bold geode
im curious, why hearthflame with rain?
Yeah Kyogre was a bitch
Redirection was a want and Hearth was the one guy I could think of that could one shot Kyogre pre and post tera even in Rain
I also wanted it for Fairy resist for some weird ass reason, don't tell me why cuz idek
Nah that's crazy
bold geode
if i speak i am in big danger
Speaketh
spiral ridge
if i speak i am in big danger
He just made me try it and we went 2-5
astral kelp
Yeah Kyogre was a bitch
Redirection was a want and Hearth was the one guy I cou...
when the gleam is dazzlin
this team is actually feeling pretty good now
i still struggle vs trickroom tho kinda of a problem bahaha
i wish weezer had speed control
ig he learns scary face
i could try that with toxic since i dont click strange steam like ever anyways
losing to taunt is rough tho hm
fleet sleet
anyone here play SV OU?
jade dust
anyone here play SV OU?
Here it’s mostly vgc, for singles I don’t see much people talk about it here
fleet sleet
never got into doubles and not sure how
jade dust
never got into doubles and not sure how
A good start is to know that a lot of useless moves in singles are the best moves in doubles
fleet sleet
I mean, I know Fake Out and Protect. Both also have use in singles but less common
jade dust
I mean, I know Fake Out and Protect. Both also have use in singles but less comm...
Follow me, rage powder, helping hand, decorate and so on
fleet sleet
Will my dreams of getting the master rank ribbon on my ribbon master Garde come true? Jokes aside
jade dust
Will my dreams of getting the master rank ribbon on my ribbon master Garde come ...
Lol I think yes
The main issue a lot of people have with singles is we don’t like 200 turns games
VGC games rarely go to 10 turns
fleet sleet
I dont think games go on for that long very often but I'm someone who generally plays offensively, though I've also dabbled in stall too. They're totally different games, I think in doubles you have a lot more upfront, especially in terms of the complexity of each turn whereas in singles there is a lot more longer term planning
Regardless, I'd like to know some good resources should I wish to get started in learning the format. I've tried it before but didnt do too well because I'm not familiar yet
rustic mountain
I said it needed tr but he doesn’t think the same. It was lando t for a bit
yea no tr mode w/ ursa is weird. its not like shroom where u can bring it normally as well as for tr mu
molten oasis
Idk what to put on it at all, did test the Ursa it sucked lol
molten oasis
T
And it’s cus it sucks lmao
I did give I a test it’s just, not what I think the team needs
Idk what it needs, but idt it’s lando
rustic mountain
well yea lando t hasnt been good since like reg d lol
molten oasis
https://pokepast.es/7f2773da24f8ad51 I’ve also been on the fence about scarf Mirai over av
molten oasis
well yea lando t hasnt been good since like reg d lol
Yea, that mon doesn’t do any damage tbh
Like, it can’t ohko a miraidon without band
rustic mountain
oof
fleet sleet
does no damage with base 145 atk? big sad
rustic mountain
too bursty of a meta for it to hold its own or it doesnt have the staying power u need it to in longer matches
rustic mountain
yea lol
molten oasis
And 91 speed sucks
rustic mountain
how the mighty have fallen
molten oasis
Fr
molten oasis
Nah they’ll just give incin a BST of 600
molten oasis
rustic mountain
it was rhetorical
molten oasis
Pretty sure this is why dexit exists
molten oasis
it was rhetorical
My bad
rustic mountain
no ur good i just meant i know theres no answer really for it
more just curious overall
molten oasis
We’ll just have to see
molten oasis
The 1000 mons in a game when a vast majority of them get shadowed by the big 3
bold geode
well yea lando t hasnt been good since like reg d lol
What about E lol
rustic mountain
d and e blur together for me
bold geode
Tbf they're basically the same format
rustic mountain
when will these super well known franchises realistically end
yea
or just like not end but stop making new mons
or add maybe 3-5 new ones per game and just mix and match regions w/ certain mons or change the formula where its not a completely new region but its not a gym badge to champions pipeline. like why not get an orre region equivalent or something
lofty tartan
The company has said something like they have more ideas for like ten more years. I'll look for where I saw it later. At work right now
exotic grotto
The company has said something like they have more ideas for like ten more years...
Which company?
lofty tartan
Pokémon Company
exotic grotto
Thank you!
quasi dirge
hey guys, how does this team looks?
https://pokepast.es/c252d0062ec51b50
main idea is to just force to tera out of ghost and clean with paonite
or play with Espeed /FO if they ghost tera then CSR / sucker pao can play for that
exotic grotto
hey guys, how does this team looks?
https://pokepast.es/c252d0062ec51b50
main i...
Your team is really incredible! You did an astonishing job building it!
quasi dirge
mighty stump
hey guys, how does this team looks?
https://pokepast.es/c252d0062ec51b50
main i...
Clear Amulet Swords Dance is probably a lot better for Rayquaza.
Giga Impact is not a good choice, you probably should be running Outrage if you intend to CB
Incineroar's EVs look inefficient, wondering what it's for.
Chien-Pao, if LO, ideally would be better running Adamant + Ice Shard as your Priority move.
Stellar/Ghost Tera is a lot better than Tera Fire, I'm not seeing what value it's giving you at all.
Calydow defensively would be better off running Tera Dark, I think Draining Kiss is really meh.
mighty stump
Your team is really incredible! You did an astonishing job building it!
As much as it is important to be supportive, overpositivity can lead people to overlook inefficient builds/sets, so be more aware of what you say.
exotic grotto
Sorry Tofu
mighty stump
No problem, encouragement is good
chrome knot
hi tofu
mighty stump
oh GL
solid frigate
solid frigate
misty helm
is this set good enough
Boogaloo (Porygon2) @ Eviolite
Ability: Download
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 216 HP / 40 Def / 252 SpA
IVs: 0 Atk
- Tri Attack
- Recover
- Shadow Ball
- Thunderbolt
bold geode
Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhh
You probably wanna redistribute some of those spatk EVs into Spdef
Not all of em but some
You want P2 to really be tanky and Spdef really gonna help there
dense latch
most of p2's worth also comes from being a bulky tr setter
so not running tr cuts the value it's giving you, if you're not using tr there's probably better option
chrome knot
216 is also not a number idt
crystal badge
I've decided to build a competitive team. I'm using Dragapult, Armarouge, Grimmsnarl, Iron bundle, Bellibolt and Lucario. Is this a good team?
chrome knot
I've decided to build a competitive team. I'm using Dragapult, Armarouge, Grimms...
what format
exotic grotto
I've decided to build a competitive team. I'm using Dragapult, Armarouge, Grimms...
Yup! Your team is brilliant! You're an amazing team builder!
crystal badge
what format
Im looking to do 2s
solid frigate
Yup! Your team is brilliant! You're an amazing team builder!
idk if you are being genuine or sarcastic anymore lol
chrome knot
Yup! Your team is brilliant! You're an amazing team builder!
quit saying this please
solid frigate
chrome knot
Im looking to do 2s
okay so, the current format atm is double restricted meaning we get to use 2 box legendaries in our teams, also i would recommend taking a look at previous results to guide you in building for this format bc atm this is bad bad
solid frigate
OK fair enough lol
and outside of Grimmsnarl and Maybe Bundle
Everyone need to go
exotic grotto
I thought it was half decent
You should try using rental teams! That will give you a good idea of meta Pokémon!
crystal badge
you want at least 2 box legendaries
So say something like Miraidon and Chien-Pao
dense latch
So say something like Miraidon and Chien-Pao
not chien pao
exotic grotto
So say something like Miraidon and Chien-Pao
Close! Miraidon is a restricted legendary, while Chien-Pao is not!
dense latch
chien pao is a regular legendary
crystal badge
So what's classes as a box legendary
bold geode
I missed out on stuff
next stump
@crystal badge https://www.serebii.net/pokemon/specialpokemon.shtml
bold geode
Why didn't I think of that
solid frigate
<:kekhands:1179615323146702938>
i lose my temper
molten oasis
crystal badge
<@1328045534199414868> https://www.serebii.net/pokemon/specialpokemon.shtml
Thank you
gentle crag
bold geode
Thank you
The other thing I wanted to add is that I would look at resources to try and catch up on what's big and meta right now as besides 2 of those Pokemon, none of them are really around right now
We have a lot of these resources in the pins of this channel
misty helm
are these stats any good for an eviolite user
solid frigate
who is it
bold geode
are these stats any good for an eviolite user
We need the Pokemon and the spread to give advice
Can't really give advice based on that
misty helm
that's my porygon2
Boogaloo (Porygon2) @ Eviolite
Ability: Download
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 216 HP / 40 Def / 252 SpA
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Tri Attack
- Ice Beam
- Shadow Ball
- Thunderbolt
craggy dagger
my covert cloak porygon disagrees
solid frigate
my covert cloak porygon disagrees
nova pls-
craggy dagger
what?
cloak and eviolite work well on P2
arguably one is better than the other tho
solid frigate
Boogaloo (Porygon2) @ Eviolite
Ability: Download
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
Te...
the EV spread-
bro is not living
misty helm
bro is not living
you mean to tell me its not living with higher defense than an non invested registeel
bold geode
Boogaloo (Porygon2) @ Eviolite
Ability: Download
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
Te...
I think you need to redistribute some EVs from Spatk into Spdef
I mean actually I think this is singles if I'm correct but like
Still this stands
You're gonna appreciate putting some special bulk into that duck
misty helm
its singles
bold geode
Even if it hits weaker, it'll stick around longer and put out more damage over time
Also Recover would be good for it
Actually also for another thing
I feel you are really missing out by not running Tera Blast on this thing, P2 is like probably the best user of Tera Blast that I can think of
solid frigate
Tera blast/Tri Attack
Ice Beam
Recover
Thunderbolt
bold geode
my covert cloak porygon disagrees
Ma'am what have you created
misty helm
Boogaloo (Porygon2) @ Eviolite
Ability: Download
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 216 HP / 40 Def / 252 SpA
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Tri Attack
- Recover
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt
solid frigate
216 is not real
bold geode
You still didn't move EVs
Also yeah for HP either 212 or 220 EVs
Wasting EVs there
Actually 40 is wasting too
36 or 44
If you get confused on the numbers you can just use the Showdown sliders as it'll automatically move by the right increments
misty helm
If you get confused on the numbers you can just use the Showdown sliders as it'l...
yes
craggy dagger
Ma'am what have you created
nothing 
it doesn’t live anything but it does help against fake out
a horrible choice but i said let’s ball 
bold geode
Lol
misty helm
Actually 40 is wasting too
I think its good strategically if the defenses are even
bold geode
It's just factually not
So I'm assuming it's singles on cart right
On the in game ranked ladder
misty helm
battle stadium singles yes
bold geode
Ok
In that format you are set to lvl 50 automatically and due to the way EVs work at that level, this is factually wasting EVs
As it's 4 EVs for first stat point, then every 8
So if you do the math
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The 216 and 40 number you have are missing from this list
misty helm
but it also makes my brain happier as it levels up
bold geode
The brain happy is not competitive optimal
solid frigate
Comp Pokemon is miserable
bold geode
Also you're not gonna see the EV numbers in game so like
?
It's better to be optimal than have even numbers
misty helm
I know but regardless of whether level 50 or level 100 it's defense stats would be even
bold geode
Yes
And that does not matter at all compared to being competitively optimal
Which is the point
Anyways that's my advice
misty helm
but it's not as fun for me
craggy dagger
so you’d rather lose out on some stats?
bold geode
Ok
Well you don't have to take the advice
You asked, I gave advice
What you want to do with that
Is your choice
misty helm
so you’d rather lose out on some stats?
I don't think it would make that much of a difference if my hp and defense are off 1 stat point
bold geode
Anyways
Chat y'all behave, imma go get me and my mom ready to see a movie
craggy dagger
Anyways
Chat y'all behave, imma go get me and my mom ready to see a movie
ooo have fun
chrome knot
just dont push yourself this is the same person who has to have defences be same
@bold geode
craggy dagger
he gone
craggy dagger
that was a good song
chrome knot
yay!
spiral ridge
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No spam smh
chrome knot
cook
craggy dagger
i misclicked…
dense latch
The brain happy is not competitive optimal
realest thing anyone’s ever said in this channel
solid frigate
realest thing anyone’s ever said in this channel
which honestly its true
dense latch
https://youtu.be/EE-7KOnYuaU?si=NlUZuK1XTV763XOl three hour team report this is sick
molten oasis
https://pokepast.es/bf03521e238088f2 may have something solid for Zac Mirai finally
Pao feels nice
Progress
shadow wind
https://pokepast.es/bf03521e238088f2 may have something solid for Zac Mirai fina...
Why crash over spinner on Pao?
Wait
Neva mind there's a Miraidon
lofty tartan
It's my last shift at this job in a few, and I don't even want to go
lofty tartan
No one to cover me. lol
I work unsupervised overnights at a place that doesn't close for anything xD
My replacement is... quite a character
chrome knot
ngl
booked train ticket to toronto for their lcq and i have to wrap up a pretty big vgc event before a train home @ 7:45, to say im nervous about these timings would be an understatement
molten oasis
Neva mind there's a Miraidon
Yea lol
Don’t wanna remove my own terrain that be dumb
molten oasis
It's my last shift at this job in a few, and I don't even want to go <:arkeknine...
Good luck man, finish strong (or don’t go)
lofty tartan
I'm too responsible to just duck out on my last day lmao. I'd feel really guilty.
molten oasis
Fair enough lol
lofty tartan
After work I'm gonna get my mod prepped for release and then start up another one. I have to gather all of these Blender models I got and make items out of them
Gonna be adding some thematic weapons for the classes to use
Making four classes in total - Bullet Saint, Armed Infantry, Gunslinger, and Gunwitch 
molten oasis
Making four classes in total - Bullet Saint, Armed Infantry, Gunslinger, and Gun...
For BG3?
lofty tartan
Yeah. The mod I'm building off adds some guns but there's a bunch missing that the classes actually make use of, so I'll be adding a pack that expands another mod
Just gonna add some things like a shotgun mesh, light assault rifle, revolver, sniper rifle. Nothing like super modern or fancy.
molten oasis
Maybe I’ll yoink one of those if I get the game. Gunslinger sounds hella fun
lofty tartan
Found a delicious Colt 1851 model
molten oasis
Might pick it up tonight tbh, I’m fucking bored lol. Finished doom and game pass has nothing interesting
lofty tartan
Might pick it up tonight tbh, I’m fucking bored lol. Finished doom and game pass...
Man Baldur's Gate 3 is incredibly well done. You can literally play it how you want - you want to kill everyone and steal everything? Done.
It's really in the spirit of DND allowing you to do whatever you want to do
I've restarted a number of times and none of my playthroughs are the same.
lofty tartan
Maybe I’ll yoink one of those if I get the game. Gunslinger sounds hella fun
The four classes I'm adding are Bullet Saint, Gunwitch, Armed Infantry, and Gunslinger.
Dex/Wis, Dex/Int, Dex/Con, Dex/Cha
So if you take all four you'll get a pretty rounded party, including a party face (someone to interact with other characters and shops for benefits from high Charisma scores and ability checks)
Armed Infantry is probably gonna be one of the funnest to make and use.
molten oasis
Dex wis is smth i play pretty regularly
lofty tartan
Bullet Saint is pretty strong. I'm adding some special attacks to it for the subclasses because one of the subclasses is extremely good.
molten oasis
My characters are 2 monks and I have a strength int build character with a eldritch knight
lofty tartan
The others need to be more in-line with it
lofty tartan
My characters are 2 monks and I have a strength int build character with a eldri...
Yeah I've taken a few things from EK
Like their Weapon Bond mechanic is hard-baked into Bullet Saint
solid frigate
hoi
lofty tartan
I just made a gun blast that will hit the initial target and fork to 3 additional targets for recasts of the skill
It's pretty spicy. Looks sick
I've gotten some resources from other modders like some visual effects and stuff
But yeah Armed Infantry will be able to either take a subclass for heavy armor specialization and light machine guns, or you can specialize in shotguns. With Constitution as a secondary score they're gonna have heavy HP
Shotguns will have a special attack for a conal blast in short range that'll knock medium/large creatures prone if they fail a Strength save
molten oasis
Nice
lofty tartan
One of the shotgun models I grabbed
molten oasis
I’ll probably install it though my Steam family so I don’t have to buy it
lofty tartan
I'm adding sawed-off shotguns too
molten oasis
One of the shotgun models I grabbed
Nice
lofty tartan
BG3 is also multiplayer btw.
molten oasis
I can be doomguy 
lofty tartan
Everyone gets a member in the party and you can all make custom characters. It's pretty fun with friends
chrome knot
One of the shotgun models I grabbed
blow my head smoove off wit that
lofty tartan
I can be doomguy <:Wolfe_Hello:1296208163414212618>
Yeah like... Heavy Armor on a gunslinger seems really strong too
My roommate is testing Bullet Saint right now - he's level 15 and his main special attack has like a 7d6 damage roll against 6 targets
lofty tartan
Yeah it's pretty strong - not super busted either because everything has good hp
And you only get one use of it per short rest until a really late level
We're testing for balancing and bugs - I want the classes to be strong but not insane.
So if we have to decrease damage or increase damage or add additional effects then that'll happen
Right now one Subclass on Bullet Saint is really strong - adds a lot of spells castable without spell slots, including Sunbeam and Holy Weapon
I'll likely be releasing the first class this weekend. They'll all ship separately to reduce mod size
The guns will release in their own separate pack
lofty tartan
For sure. If you like the game and wanna play with some folks, my roommate and wife play as well. Everyone gets influence over the direction of the game and stuff
I'll be moving to weekends off and working during the day like a normal person next week
But like any dnd game, no one is singularly good at everything - so whoever is best at something gets to do the thing
shadow wind
I feel like Iron bundle might be real
lofty tartan
Of course he is
I mean I like Iron Bundle. I wish he had a more reliable water move, but I'll swing with Hydro Pump
molten oasis
Rn yes I’d say so
molten oasis
Idt iron bundle is winning any tournaments
shadow wind
I mean I like Iron Bundle. I wish he had a more reliable water move, but I'll s...
That's the trick
On a sun team he doesn't need a water move
molten oasis
Groudon Mirai?
lofty tartan
Korai/Mirai/Bundle
molten oasis
But like any dnd game, no one is singularly good at everything - so whoever is b...
Interesting
lofty tartan
xD
shadow wind
Groudon Mirai?
I'm tryin it out yeah
molten oasis
Ah valid. Strong set
shadow wind
Discharge is clicked like twice every 5 games
molten oasis
Ground ice is always strong coverage
molten oasis
And you get some speed control out of it yea
shadow wind
Like thank god
molten oasis
Being faster than flutter is lit
shadow wind
Means I can run fat Miraidon
molten oasis
And pao and the bikes
shadow wind
Groudon Volc lead is so awesome
Rage powder also stops leech seed CIR from getting too out of hand
What are they going to do?
Hit me with a 36 invest glacial lance?
shadow wind
can anyone quick review a set
I can try
chrome knot
molten oasis
I’m too dumb
chrome knot
revengeseekerz is me
shadow wind
You actually played it very well that's a tricky MU for sure
I would suggest using screens more over Incin maybe?
chrome knot
incin keeps csr & hands in check
game 3 I get so greedy for csr when like 0% of the population of earth is letting me steal that
shadow wind
So does Grimm though
chrome knot
when we found out tera ss kils
shadow wind
Less so but it helps more in general
Yeah it's hard not to go for that
The knock off ended that game
chrome knot
not necessarily
if I had more headsup awareness I can uturn off mirai
fake out incin for ko/tr
assuming they dont hard swap into hands :v
chrome knot
tho idk I think hands cooks me regardless
losing scarf made csr impossible boss fight
shadow wind
Yeah
I'm thinking with Grimmsnarl though you could live at least 2 Astral Barrages and dgleam em down
But that's not accounting for fake outs or other Miraidon
shadow wind
Yeah
chrome knot
grimm might be the answer tho
shadow wind
same with setting up TR
chrome knot
bc damage + disruption is pretty yum
tho the threat of this game was most definitely iron hands past everything else
molten oasis
I’m a little late, I do think g1 incin Grimm was a pretty passive lead, and disable was pretty bad for you
molten oasis
Oh, lemme look at g3
dense latch
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regibo3-2374753640-kn6c37voxgt5uiu...
ooo that’s olivia’s portland team right
chrome knot
yeaah im close friends w/ her & jeremy who had both ran it
molten oasis
Hm, yea the CIR dying there was rough
But I also think you would have ended up on the back foot due to losing the scarf on shifu and the damage output of their restricteds
Maybe tr earlier would have helped.
molten oasis
Ah, yea, hmm
shadow wind
molten oasis
Maybe the turn CIR died you could have clicked protect and knocked off the Mirai, letting you live drift next turn and clicking u-turn into incin, assuming they don’t target incin. Then lance or tr. sorry I’m not that knowledgeable into this mu
Surging strikes into incin also wouldn’t have been terrible the turn CSR switched out
foggy lodge
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regibo3-2374753640-kn6c37voxgt5uiu...
I think the Lando pick could have also helped here
next stump
battle of the NAIC names
shadow wind
battle of the NAIC names
That's awesome
foggy lodge
Also in G3 volt switch into CSR would have been game changing
Cuz fake out Incin knowing you are faster than them from the interactions and if the CSR protects you still don't lose too much cuz that means Urshifu can kill it without the tera water and reserving it for another mon like Miraidon or let Incin ko it
molten oasis
battle of the NAIC names
Hey man could I get your thoughts on this? https://pokepast.es/bf03521e238088f2 it’s working okay so far but I think the team really struggles to do much if tr goes up.
shadow wind
Drago could I ask what those Volc evs are for?
molten oasis
Yk, I did calc that but I lowkey forgot lol
molten oasis
It lives something lemme look at the calculator rq
shadow wind
Also how have you liked tera water?
next stump
yeah it seems like CIR under TR can sweep you
shadow wind
Volcarona @ Covert Cloak
Ability: Flame Body
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Fiery Dance
- Rage Powder
- Struggle Bug
- Tailwind
next stump
I don't really see an easy fix unless maybe you swapp Whims for screens grimm?
shadow wind
I mean this is what I'm runnin
molten oasis
It lowkey might have been that 252 Atk Life Orb Orichalcum Pulse Tera-Fire Koraidon Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 156 Def Tera-Water Volcarona in Sun: 156-185 (81.2 - 96.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
shadow wind
I'm also thinking of swapping Tera water for Dragon but I'm not sure yet
molten oasis
I don't really see an easy fix unless maybe you swapp Whims for screens grimm?
Yea, I’ve gotten the hands suggestion a lot but I don’t think there’s much I can do about it w/ Mirai having the av
shadow wind
Drago we in the same boat
molten oasis
Grimm maybe but I do think tw’s been hella nice
shadow wind
Hands goated but Miraidon AV
shadow wind
Mystic water shifu is kinda mid in Reg I
forest arrow
At least with grim you can run foul play
foggy lodge
Also makes more sense for the moveset without aqua jet
Or you just go for the choice scarf coaching set
Swap out Whimsi for Grimmsnarl and make shifu scarf with coaching for Zac
molten oasis
Idk about lorb Pao on that team tbh
It’s LORB cuz the sash is taken
And tbh I haven’t been clicking taunt much, so ig scarf shifu can work
foggy lodge
What do we think about scarf Miraidon rn
I thought it would be more popular after Dillon's run but I just never see it
I think is a good set anyways
molten oasis
I never tested it but I feel like it needs Fari
foggy lodge
Yeah it needs it
molten oasis
https://pokepast.es/a22e49db4ff642f5 so idk about that here
forest arrow
I agree there
next stump
yeah it needs farig
molten oasis
But there’s that variant
next stump
it's really nice into all the CSR running around
molten oasis
Would scarf Mirai+farig over, ig Grimm or pao be better maybe?
molten oasis
I just don’t like choice locking into moves on Mirai, personal thing
next stump
I wish there was match history on SD but I would guess around 50-60% of my bo3 matches are CSR/Zama
probably italians prepping for their regional this weekend
foggy lodge
I had this with scarf Miraihttps://pokepast.es/cc7dc522e981725f
molten oasis
That’s what I like about volc, it’s pretty solid into that
next stump
absolutely, I usually run mirai/farig/volc/CIR in taht matchup
sometimes drop the CIR entirely
foggy lodge
I thought that Miraidon Zamazenta would be better but eh
Chien-Pao is a must imo because it kills grass and ghost types and has priority
molten oasis
Ye
hm, man I’m just, idk if I want my main anti CIR thing (shifu) to be scarfed, sash/mystic water sets both felt fine
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.2
molten oasis
It’s just play rough
foggy lodge
90 accurate idk
shadow wind
Play rough but can flinch
shadow wind
90 accurate idk
I call that better than average !
bold geode
can anyone quick review a set
Can you send me the set in DMs?
shadow wind
I love when my AV Miraidon lives a +2 life orb Astral Barrage when it's single target
balmy glen
probably italians prepping for their regional this weekend
yes
they are full of Zama CSR
foggy lodge
No way @bold geode https://youtu.be/55pQw3AIsAs?si=PGjHrCzTzlZiKUp8
foggy lodge
It's the core of
Calyrex Shadow, Zamazenta, Chien-Pao, Amoonguss and Raging Bolt
That core is broken
foggy lodge
It has like 3 Miraidon checks lol
shadow wind
No Groudon checks though
foggy lodge
And some people have put Rillaboom in the 6th slot
shadow wind
He doesn't need to be checked 😔
foggy lodge
I like astral dealing over 50% to Groudon anyways lol
foggy lodge
ngl I'm not playing screens again lol
Today I got critted 3 times in only one set
Not even one set on one game of the set
shadow wind
foggy lodge
And the 3 crits were one shots to my mons
shadow wind
Joey Pokeaim 😭
molten oasis
Which one looks better?
?
foggy lodge
I doubt his real last name is Pokeaim
shadow wind
I know it just showed like Joel S or something when it was being streamed
foggy lodge
Yeah
But like they need the documentation with everything
I saw on Twitter someone talking about how they used their teamsheet from a regional to "prove their existence" lmao
shadow wind
That's dope
Dang I should not be stopping at 1400 😔
I think I'm washed
I also just got scammed
next stump
his teamsheet had his real last name
bold geode
No way <@817628066020065280> https://youtu.be/55pQw3AIsAs?si=PGjHrCzTzlZiKUp8
Excuse me sir
next stump
but I think they did pokeaim as a favor cause he’s famous
shadow wind
Probably yeah
foggy lodge
Dang I should not be stopping at 1400 😔
It's a good elo
shadow wind
Yeah but I'm like super washed
foggy lodge
The best I could get was like 1480-? And top 300 on ladder
I want to get to 1500
But tbh I don't like this format so not too many motivations to do it lmao
shadow wind
Groudon also isn't helping me I guess
But that isn't an excuse
Cause I always use him
shadow wind
😔
balmy glen
you can’t be washed if you didn’t peak yet
rustic mountain
you can’t be washed if you didn’t peak yet
rustic mountain
I know it's true but I can't accept it
u need to ur actively making it harder for urself
so either accept ur gna win inconsistently or actually use 2 good restricteds instead of 1
rustic mountain
i feel like uve been labbing it long enough
to figure out if there really is some way to run it super efficiently
shadow wind
I've just recently picked up Iron Bundle
rustic mountain
even in a mirai meta its just lackluster and outclassed even as a sun setter
balmy glen
Maybe that's the semi peak
the real ladder or what
rustic mountain
it has no defined role
rustic mountain
its something
rustic mountain
nah
some ppl dont have the ability to get that high up
otherwise everybody would
whether its cuz they r still learning or dont wanna improve in the ways they should
shadow wind
Feel like I'm still learning
rustic mountain
we all are
shadow wind
But my playstyle does not invoke learning
rustic mountain
but i mean learning in the sense of more foundational vgc
shadow wind
So I need to change that
rustic mountain
u already realize it tho
which is important
but yea u dont want that to be the go to
too volatile
shadow wind
Extremely volatile
rustic mountain
give urself the tools and ability to make plays that dont outright lose u if u get them wrong
molten oasis
Maybe it’s time to let groudon go
rustic mountain
its so much better i promise u
shadow wind
Which is why I'm making better teams that aren't read heavy
rustic mountain
nice
shadow wind
rustic mountain
shadow wind
This is the most recent venture
rustic mountain
i see good mons nd then i see groudon
molten oasis
I mean seems solid then there’s groudon
molten oasis
I bet it’ll have its time again (primals) but for now, it’s just not koraidon man
shadow wind
Bulks up then smokes CIR
molten oasis
Yknow what he does?
Have a immunity into miraidon (and still die to Draco)
rustic mountain
lmao
molten oasis
Shut off rain from kyogre and still take 50%
rustic mountain
miss p blades
rustic mountain
shadow wind
This ain't about him
rustic mountain
bundles fine tbh
molten oasis
Ok but like, my point still stands lol
The sun setter generally doesn’t like kyogre
rustic mountain
u have options but yea its weird
its not even just kyogre it just doesnt do anything koraidon doesnt do better
molten oasis
Yep
rustic mountain
it has no role
shadow wind
He's fatter and does better into CIR imo
molten oasis
Ok, go go gadget Tera fire flare blitz
rustic mountain
or u just run ur own cir and have bbss and an infinitely better team
molten oasis
That too
I don’t disagree like it is better into CIR but, there’s other tools that don’t require your restricted slot
rustic mountain
i would hope not
shadow wind
Maybe if I went to irl tours I'd change my ways
rustic mountain
yea u would cuz ur not gna spend hundreds of dollars and bring groudon and rely on that for 8+ rounds
shadow wind
Exactly
rustic mountain
ppl do it, but i wouldnt think thats a good idea
shadow wind
But the cool thing about that is that I don't go to irl tours
So Groudon isn't costing me anything right now
rustic mountain
again, u can keep using groudon but might be time to accept the results are going to reflect its relevance/efficiency
shadow wind
Oh yeah 100%
rustic mountain
otherwise its gna be extremely frustrating thinking u have a ceiling u already hit
molten oasis
Going to tours does require the “I wanna win” mindset
shadow wind
Don't worry I'll never be frustrated because in the end I am using Groudon
molten oasis
Or extreme dedication to _ Mon
rustic mountain
Going to tours does require the “I wanna win” mindset
and it doesnt mean u cant bring some heat. but its gotta make sense. think tyo ice team w/ articuno or anything esm does
shadow wind
Going to tours does require the “I wanna win” mindset
I would like to think I have that
Just not as obessed I guess
molten oasis
and it doesnt mean u cant bring some heat. but its gotta make sense. think tyo i...
Yea
molten oasis
Just not as obessed I guess
You play groudon
molten oasis
I’m not either but my mon does better into the format rn
(And then they Tera and I cry)
shadow wind
How do you think I feel 😭
rustic mountain
zacian def has more of a role then groudon by far rn
molten oasis
Lmao
rustic mountain
but i still disagree w/ the 1 mon pigeonholing
molten oasis
She loses all offensive pressure with a single press of a button
CIR is now a bad mu when it should be a good mu lol
shadow wind
Like Groudon has essentially 2 weaknesses in the sun
But he can't do anything because nothing wants to be weak to Ground anymore
molten oasis
Yep
shadow wind
but i still disagree w/ the 1 mon pigeonholing
I'm going to guess that's what I'm doing?
molten oasis
but i still disagree w/ the 1 mon pigeonholing
I think this is valid and I’ve really only done this in restricted formats. I’ve been better about it elsewhere
I treated reg h so harshly bring it back
molten oasis
I honestly don’t
shadow wind
I like how I know what to plan for
molten oasis
Playing through them now I’m just like “yea I liked having room to make mistakes”
Not that making mistakes isn’t gonna happen there’s just more room, you fuck up 1 turn in this format it’s ggs
next stump
does this format end august 31st? or september 30th?
solid frigate
31st of August i belive
solid frigate
I like how I know what to plan for
because its just Groudon and fuck it we ball
next stump
so July 30th we should have info on next format, 2 more months 🙏
lines up pretty well with that pokemon presents too
solid frigate
lofty tartan
So what're your opinions on Groudon and Kyurem-Black?
shadow wind
Probably that it's the most awesomest combo ever !
solid frigate
So what're your opinions on Groudon and Kyurem-Black?
if you see me making Tier list
I slandered them so much
molten oasis
Isn’t kyurem black dogshit
solid frigate
that has no return
solid frigate
Isn’t kyurem black dogshit
yeah thats why i slandered him
molten oasis
Ah
dense latch
is it even slander if it's true
shadow wind
Hey guys
astral kelp
if you see me making Tier list
I slandered them so much
lmfao
i wanna see the mirai kyu-b
molten oasis
Doesn’t even kill incin
astral kelp
Doesn’t even kill incin
huh does it not
molten oasis
Nah it probably does but not at -1
astral kelp
yeahhhh
lofty tartan
Why not just use Miraidon and something else for more damage
astral kelp
sucks having to use dice
solid frigate
Ah
its a fucking dissapointment
165 Atk Caly Ice Glacial Lance with 0atk EVs vs 170 Atk Kyurem Black Ice Fang with 252+ Atk EVs
Guess who still Kills Miraidon
astral kelp
Why not just use Miraidon and something else for more damage <:arkeknine:6695004...
when you think about it
kyu black is kind of an offensive coverage beast frfr
imagine he learned a good ice type atk move
solid frigate
0 Atk Calyrex-Ice Glacial Lance vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Miraidon: 156-186 (88.6 - 105.6%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO
252+ Atk Kyurem-Black Ice Fang vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Miraidon: 152-180 (86.3 - 102.2%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO
HOW DID YOU MESS IT UP KYUREM BLACK
molten oasis
Why not just use Miraidon and something else for more damage <:arkeknine:6695004...
Yea like idk
lofty tartan
0 Atk Calyrex-Ice Glacial Lance vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Miraidon: 156-186 (88.6 - 105.6...
Because there's a huge BP difference there that you're just sort of ignoring xD
rustic mountain
I'm going to guess that's what I'm doing?
u and drago yea
dense latch
why is kyurem black's strongest non-multi hit move ice fang
they just hate the guy
that also isnt ass AKA freeze shock
rustic mountain
erik, outside kyogre wat restricted is actually relevant rn pre gen 7?
not that gen 5 dragons were ever good but still
solid frigate
erik, outside kyogre wat restricted is actually relevant rn pre gen 7?
none
If Xerneas is in Gen 9 maybe Also Xerneas
molten oasis
u and drago yea
I almost gave up but couldn’t break the bond yk
(I stared at the builder for like an hour and didn’t decide on anything)
rustic mountain
lmao
rustic mountain
none
If Xerneas is in Gen 9 maybe Also Xerneas
not even maybe definitely xerneas
dense latch
erik, outside kyogre wat restricted is actually relevant rn pre gen 7?
that's a fair point lmao
molten oasis
I’ve gotten to the point I just like zacian a lot and I’ve gotten good with it
dense latch
but at least the other restricteds get moves
rustic mountain
overall tho just meant things have continuously gotten outclassed
molten oasis
I also just don’t know what other restricted fits how I play
solid frigate
overall tho just meant things have continuously gotten outclassed
if There is a new rain setting restricted then Kyogre will get Outclassed
rustic mountain
depends wat it is
solid frigate
unless that restricted has design issues
molten oasis
Ig there was the brief moment of playing CIR in reg g 1 but that was cuz I wanted to play dengo
solid frigate
Ig there was the brief moment of playing CIR in reg g 1 but that was cuz I wante...
and Groudon
but like
why bother in this format
rustic mountain
wdym
solid frigate
i am not bothering on Groudon
rustic mountain
Ig there was the brief moment of playing CIR in reg g 1 but that was cuz I wante...
last time dengo was good
molten oasis
I didn’t ever stick with groudon that Mon sucks
rustic mountain
i am not bothering on Groudon
oh yea u shouldnt
shadow wind
😔
molten oasis
last time dengo was good
True now the zama mu is patched with leech seed
solid frigate
oh yea u shouldnt
i slandered Groudon so much on would i use this restricted tier list
team Aqua propaganda
rustic mountain
torrent ur tier lists r always so random hahah
chrome knot
i slandered Groudon so much on would i use this restricted tier list
can i have this tierlist
solid frigate
can i have this tierlist
molten oasis
I’ll make one too