competitive_discussion

[bold geode]

Is it fucking Omni Man?

[mental mason]

No victory by opponent forfeiting? Alright. So that means no getting scared from either side right?

[bold geode]

Well I meant like
If the men run away then like they weren't committed
I was just saying you're not scaring away the gorilla

[mental mason]

Hmm. Depends how desperate/determined the 100 men are. The few first deaths might break morale but if it doesn't and there's like several scenarios that it doesn't break enough of them, there's no way the gorilla would win.

[strange fjord]

Assuming everyone is committed to the fight, men win.

[mental mason]

That's like the only win con I see from the gorilla.

[rustic mountain]

u gna volunteer to be in the 1st 10 to go?

[mighty stump]

think of a plan tho like r u literally in a bare concrete arena

[rustic mountain]

hahaha yea ik, especially too like

a gorilla sees even 10-20 ppl rushing it, its gna get scared especially if ur all screaming

[bold geode]

Yeah depends on where too

[mighty stump]

I do wanna say

theres a surface area/volume concept at play

at some point it becomes redundant

like

you can only swarm the gorilla so much until ur just hitting ur own team

[spiral ridge]

We turn into extra gorillas to balance equation

Make like a civil war line formation
People in rows of 3 circling it and each punching once person ahead done create stunlock

[near crag]

According to all mighty google, gorillas are 4-10 times stronger than men, so if we shoot high, and have a nice plan, 20 men should be able to kill the monkey, capping at like 10 men killed

[bold geode]

Hey Tofu quick question
When doing Miraidon calcs, is it sensible to just calc for Modest max or not above Ceree's investment

Nvm his set was basically max and the calc I was going for ain't even close LMFAO

[lofty tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-meme-really-gif-26853815

[narrow stump]

is florges just the best non legendary fairy type?

[thorny beacon]

[spiral ridge]

Flutter and grimm are better

[lofty tartan]

Even Tinkaton is better than Florges 👀

[spiral ridge]

Reg G at least we’ve seen similar amounts of both
So like 1 of each 😭

Lugia comfey way back

[bold geode]

I love Comfey

It's not that good
But it was something for Reg F

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/whimsicott-plush-spin-spinning-funny-gif-12700965544903440872

my favourite Puff ball exists

[dense latch]

florges is honestly closer to the worst fully evolved fairy types in the game

[narrow stump]

how?

552 bst, good special attack, amazing special defense, moonblast at level 5

what's the major downside to her?

[bold geode]

It's just
Eh
Doesn't really give value in any way
Stats aren't really everything

[solid frigate]

just look at what we are fighting-

[bold geode]

Ability
Moves
Other Pokemon in the meta
A lot of factors and well
Florges doesn't work well with those other factors

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/glastrier-gif-21054576

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokemon-shield-pokemon-plush-plush-plushie-gif-22905345

[rustic mountain]

florges was ok in reg a but now that we are in a restricted meta yea it offers pretty much nothing

[solid frigate]

no utility whatsoever

[narrow stump]

that makes more sense

[bold geode]

Yeah
Idt the moveset is good and the ability is super niche

[rustic mountain]

tough wen the power level rises, a lot of mons dont really have the staying power to remain relevant

[solid frigate]

moveset is like if i give it a grade its like C+ to B-

[bold geode]

Just say you want Reg H

[solid frigate]

lol

[rustic mountain]

hahah i mean id prefer it but i like reg i so far

been on a week break tho which has been nice before the format officially starts

[bold geode]

Eh
Idk if we went back to Reg H this gen I think it'd become like Reg G

[rustic mountain]

nah

reg h wasnt really mu roulette really

[solid frigate]

found new stuff but those new stuff would be a bit annoying?

[rustic mountain]

id say the meta progression we even saw towards the end of reg h couldve def continued

[bold geode]

Yeah but like
Reg H meta became centralized at the end and well
Just the fact it would basically feel like it's been a long time lol

[bold geode]

It could've

[rustic mountain]

i dont think it was that centralized

[bold geode]

Also people hated on Sneasler but like
Skill issue

[rustic mountain]

i think sneasler saw many more answers as the format developed but like if thats the powerhouse ur complaining about in a format, its a good format in my book

[bold geode]

Lol
I think people just hated gambling on Dire Claw which like me too but

Just use a Steel type or a Tera smh

Dragonite Scale Shot was good bro, use that

[rustic mountain]

yea

i think the complaining was a bit overstated

[bold geode]

I loved Coaching Scale Shot shenanigans

[rustic mountain]

sure we all got haxed by sneasler dire claw but plenty of ppl won w/o sneasler while playing vs sneasler

[bold geode]

Tbf it gets that way for like
Every format

[rustic mountain]

it wasnt unanswerable

[solid frigate]

honestly i would play Reg H just to make Sylveon work again

[bold geode]

Like the last time I played G on cart I was like "y'know this isn't as bad as people say it is now"

[rustic mountain]

sylveon was useable in even like reg d

[bold geode]

Yeah I think it won either Seniors or Juniors in 2023 Worlds
I know it did cuz it was an event mon

[rustic mountain]

not a terrible format just not a good one

[rustic mountain]

runner up in seniors

[bold geode]

Yeah but people are overdramatic like "IT'S THE MOST DOGSHIT UNPLAYABLE FORMAT" like bruh c'mon

[solid frigate]

yeah but rn

Nope

[rustic mountain]

yea i wouldnt say that but i get why ppl dislike it

i personally wasnt a big reg g fan as it came to an end

[bold geode]

Once again
Gimme back Reg F
I want another shot at that

[rustic mountain]

reg f was cool

[solid frigate]

Reg F is peak

[bold geode]

It was dope
And my boy Tyo won with Articuno then so

[rustic mountain]

idk bout peak but its up there for top sv format

[bold geode]

I think Tyo winning with Articuno was one of the most hype times I've had when watching Gen 9 stuff

[rustic mountain]

that was cool

[bold geode]

Just seeing a friend win an event with something that was crazy

It was crazy good into the meta bro

But then I made a team that was very good into that team

[solid frigate]

its technically the meta call for that cuz lots of stuff weak to ice

[rustic mountain]

yea

[solid frigate]

honestly i'm down to do rerun of Reg F

[rustic mountain]

prolly wont get that

[solid frigate]

then

whats next after Double res

[rustic mountain]

idk more double res

[solid frigate]

chaos Format?

[chrome knot]

no

[bold geode]

Triple restricted

[rustic mountain]

i think theres gna b tours after worlds so prolly not

[chrome knot]

you need an official format for nextszn lol

[bold geode]

Even better idea
TAPU TIME

[rustic mountain]

have all the tapus shiny but the bad one

[bold geode]

You don't have shiny Rillaboom? Lil behind bud

[rustic mountain]

lol

[bold geode]

Y'KNOW WHAT

[rustic mountain]

i think i got 3 shiny rillas?

[spiral ridge]

i wanna use a tapu :)
theyre so pretty

[bold geode]

Bulu's typing is good into Miraidon technically

[rustic mountain]

oh brother

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 787: Tapu Bulu

Types

Grass/Fairy

Abilities

Grassy Surge, Telepathy (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

70/130/115/85/95/75

Total

570

Sableye version 4.28.2

[spiral ridge]

yknow

true..
monkey swap your thundurus team with tapu bulu

[bold geode]

Yeah but the special bulk is way too low

Y'know what can do it though
Tera Grass Tapu Fini

[rustic mountain]

its workable but idk bulu just is mid

[bold geode]

Nah Tera Grass Tapu Fini would cook

[solid frigate]

didn't that happen before in DP

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 788: Tapu Fini

Types

Water/Fairy

Abilities

Misty Surge, Telepathy (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

70/75/115/95/130/85

Total

570

Sableye version 4.28.2

[spiral ridge]

wait question
ik you tried thundurs
what about tera fairy AV rhyperior

smack that into the team on last days of reg G

[bold geode]

Spdef high (invest HP buddy)
But also Tera Grass resists Electric AND Misty Terrain cuts Dragon damage in half

[solid frigate]

HP Defense SpD and like idk

[bold geode]

But Thundurus does more in other MUs bro

[spiral ridge]

fair but likeee
ground rock silly

[bold geode]

So?

[spiral ridge]

its last days of reg G why not fuck around with it to be sill

[bold geode]

I'm busy with I rn

[tiny karma]

Ability: Serene Grace

This Pokemon's moves have their secondary effect chance doubled. This effect stacks with the Rainbow effect, except for secondary effects that cause the target to flinch.

Sableye version 4.28.2

[spiral ridge]

okay dunsparce i see you

[spiral ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/yuji-stare-jujutsu-kaisen-blank-shibuya-sukuna-gif-2005904860443811921

no fun smh

[bold geode]

Oh I'm cookin dogshit bruh

(I'm using Zam CSR, I'm ass with the honse)

[spiral ridge]

come cook rockshit SMELL WHAT THE ROCK IS COOKIN

"dogshit"
-michelin grade ingredients

[bold geode]

Doesn't matter if I can't cook

[spiral ridge]

so tempted to make another ili ping like this your new orange bro but i alreayd did that to ya yesterday 😭

:3

[bold geode]

Hey it's as they say

Coaches don't play

[spiral ridge]

coaches used to play though usually}
old hoot

[bold geode]

The fact you remember that

You old AF

[spiral ridge]

remember what?

[bold geode]

The Alamo 🫡

[spiral ridge]

what

brother im not picking up what youre puttingf down

[bold geode]

Good
Leave my dog's corpse alone

[spiral ridge]

??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

im gonan tune you out and just absolutely bop to bayonetta

[bold geode]

Tune this plays fish

[spiral ridge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-e2IydTw2s

experience peak

[bold geode]

I figured out how to tuna fish
I also out pizza'd the Hut
The FBI are after me currently

[spiral ridge]

they havent seen your ass rolling around like katamari?

[bold geode]

You speaking Chinese to me?

[spiral ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/katamari-gif-25794846

katamari damacy

[bold geode]

What in the marijuana fuck is that

[spiral ridge]

a game where you roll a ball bigger by picking shit up on it

imagine like
the precursor to those black hole games that get bigger the more stuff falls into it

youre the ball

[bold geode]

Oh so you're handing out bags now? That's illegal in some places sir

[spiral ridge]

???

[spiral ridge]

just go listen to this and hopefully itll fix you

[spiral ridge]

@tranquil kraken whats your fave bayonetta song

[plain drum]

Hey guy- what the fuck

[bold geode]

Piccup Truck will fix me

[spiral ridge]

why do i stay here

i have no allegiances

[bold geode]

Nothing but piccup and Jacksepticeye Kindergarten videos

[bold geode]

You have an allegiance of stupidity

[spiral ridge]

HES FINALLY TALKING SENSE CUS THATS SO REAL

[bold geode]

You have the big stupid

[bold geode]

Piccup Truck

[spiral ridge]

other part

[bold geode]

I hope Nugget is driving the piccup Truck

[spiral ridge]

i dont know if prophets cat is driving it

[bold geode]

No

[plain drum]

Scotty Kindergarten registration is open over here

[spiral ridge]

shush

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/nugget-kindergarten-kindergarten-game-nugget-kindergarten-con-man-games-gif-15741843094695087800

[spiral ridge]

hehehe

[bold geode]

NUGGET WILL BUILD NEW NUGGET CAVE FOR NUGGET

[spiral ridge]

monkey

A. listen to the fucking song
B. if i pay you a banana can you drive my brother to practice

[bold geode]

You can't drive

[spiral ridge]

i very much can

and have my license

[bold geode]

No you can't

[spiral ridge]

i am
almost 17
i very much can

[bold geode]

Show it to us rn then

[spiral ridge]

jesus christ im almost 17 when did that happen

[bold geode]

Bro won't let me commit identity theft, I don't believe he can drive

[solid frigate]

wut

[spiral ridge]

That’s my license

Just really close to the camera

K that’s all you get

[bold geode]

Here's my license

[spiral ridge]

Wowwwww

[plain drum]

Amazing

[spiral ridge]

Trim your nails buddy

[tranquil kraken]

Gates of Hell and One of a Kind

[spiral ridge]

I dunno those off top of my head but nice

[bold geode]

Trim your mom
Ha got em

[tranquil kraken]

Gates of Hell is the song in Rodin's bar

[plain drum]

😭

[spiral ridge]

Ohhh

That’s right it’s fucking called that 😭

[tranquil kraken]

One of a Kind is

peak

[spiral ridge]

Boted

[bold geode]

@tranquil kraken Scotty wouldn't let me steal his identity, kinda cringe

[tranquil kraken]

deserved

[spiral ridge]

Ili can steal mine

[lofty tartan]

What

[tranquil kraken]

[lofty tartan]

[bold geode]

Apparently Scotty can drive and has his license

[spiral ridge]

Mhm

[lofty tartan]

Makes sense

[tranquil kraken]

Fake news

[bold geode]

Also Scotty, weird that you think your brother is worth a banana

[spiral ridge]

lol

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/magolor-kirby-magolor-kirby-rtdl-gif-11964323964295454245

[plain drum]

I'll have food ready on the table

[bold geode]

Hey bro got a question

So do you think 100 men could take down a gorilla
Unarmed btw

[plain drum]

Not again lmao

[bold geode]

HEY
I'M GATHERING FIELD RESEARCH HERE

[lofty tartan]

[bold geode]

So Mika
What you think

You think 100 men with their bare hands
Could take down a gorilla

[spiral ridge]

yknow dont rmember this song but its rly good dayum

[tranquil kraken]

one of a kind?

its peak

[spiral ridge]

mine gotta be like
moon river
fly me to the moon
then the climax songs

[forest arrow]

No

[bold geode]

Hey I mean
They probably could babe

Now 2 gorilla
Eh
But 1 gorilla vs 100 guy? Probably

[forest arrow]

Their immediately gone so

[bold geode]

@spiral ridge bro the gorilla is gonna start throwing it's shit and it's gonna be like that one AoT scene

[spiral ridge]

HAHAHA

https://tenor.com/view/beast-titan-titan-bestial-zeke-yeager-gif-1101258225846442208

[bold geode]

MY SOLDIERS RAGE

[forest arrow]

Lmaooo

The beast titan

[bold geode]

I was so weirded out
I was like "is that a monkey" and then I was like "THE MONKEY CAN TALK"

[forest arrow]

I was like huhhh

[bold geode]

Yeah why the monkey talk bruh

[forest arrow]

My friends are now arguing over if a gorilla can take down 100 men

Thank you babe @bold geode

[gentle crag]

throwdatahh has given 1 Gen Rep to dollarmonke

[forest arrow]

🤣🤣🤣

[bold geode]

Hey it's a valid argument my guy

Very important question, you never thought it'd be asked but here we are

[solid frigate]

monke moment

[forest arrow]

I have 1 friend that agrees with me the gorilla would win lol

[shadow wind]

Now an even better question, could a Silverback Gorilla beat a Grizzly bear

[bold geode]

LMAO

All my friends at work think the gorilla goes down

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2352793719
@atomic mural i slaughtered your children

[atomic mural]

hes just a boy :(

[astral kelp]

i really want to make a kyurem team

maybe kyurem tailroom

with uhh lunala?

[solid frigate]

not VGC but yeah got 1611

[astral kelp]

oh dang

idk if im feeling this

im kionda forced to choose grimm sinis or incin every game

yeah garbaahge

i really like sinsitcha but 25% healing is kinda shit in this format

\when everything is gonna chunk you for half anyways

[astral kelp]

252+ Atk Choice Band Sheer Force Tera-Rock Rampardos Rock Slide vs. 244 HP / 0 Def Calyrex-Ice Rider: 232-276 (112.6 - 133.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
hear me out

[exotic grotto]

Great team!

[astral kelp]

LOL

[rustic mountain]

🤨

[solid frigate]

yeah tree we'll just let them be

[shadow wind]

Don’t yuck their yum

[lost sun]

no

[tiny karma]

Ability: Gorilla Tactics

This Pokemon's Attack is multiplied by 1.5, but it can only select the first move it executes. These effects are prevented while this Pokemon is Dynamaxed.

Sableye version 4.28.2

Pokémon No. 555: Darmanitan-Galar

Type

Ice

Abilities

Gorilla Tactics, Zen Mode (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

105/140/55/30/55/95

Total

480

Base Species

Darmanitan

Sableye version 4.28.2

Ability: Zen Mode

If this Pokemon is a Darmanitan or Galarian Darmanitan, it changes to Zen Mode if it has 1/2 or less of its maximum HP at the end of a turn. If Darmanitan's HP is above 1/2 of its maximum HP at the end of a turn, it changes back to Standard Mode.

Sableye version 4.28.2

Pokémon No. 555: Darmanitan-Galar-Zen

Types

Ice/Fire

Abilities

Zen Mode

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

105/160/55/30/55/135

Total

540

Base Species

Darmanitan

Sableye version 4.28.2

Darmanitan-Galar's moveset:

Physical Moves

Special Moves

Status Moves

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Darmanitan-Galar.

Sableye version 4.28.2

Darmanitan-Galar's moveset:

Physical Moves

Avalanche, Bite, Body Press, Body Slam, Brick Break, Bulldoze, Dig, Earthquake, Facade, Fire Fang, Fire Punch, Flame Wheel, Flare Blitz, Fling, Focus Punch, Giga Impact, Gyro Ball, Hammer Arm, Headbutt, Ice Fang, Ice Punch, Icicle Crash, Iron Head, Lash Out, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Payback, Power-Up Punch, Reversal, Rock Slide, Rock Tomb, Stone Edge, Superpower, Tackle, Take Down, Thief, Thrash, U-turn, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Blizzard, Burning Jealousy, Fire Blast, Fire Spin, Flamethrower, Focus Blast, Freeze-Dry, Grass Knot, Heat Wave, Hyper Beam, Ice Beam, Incinerate, Overheat, Powder Snow, Psychic, Round, Snore, Solar Beam, Uproar

Status Moves

Attract, Belly Drum, Bulk Up, Encore, Endure, Focus Energy, Iron Defense, Protect, Rest, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Sunny Day, Taunt, Will-O-Wisp, Work Up, Yawn

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Darmanitan-Galar.

Sableye version 4.28.2

[spiral ridge]

?

[chrome knot]

helping ms kathy with draft

[spiral ridge]

Is this for monkey question or?

Ohhh
Hf hf

[chrome knot]

she has g monkey so learning how to best exploit it being disgustingly broken

[spiral ridge]

Sick

What’s the plan so far

[chrome knot]

well we have mega lop, hearthflame, gmonke, skarmory atm

so just ho with a brick wall

[shadow wind]

Can I stop going against 252 252 bold incin

Like brother you have intimidate

[mighty stump]

i miss gdarm

[shadow wind]

I forgot how tilting playing screens is

Every crit hurts just that little bit more

[foggy lodge]

Real

My line with Joey's team against the mirror was Grimmsnarl Hands

And then I would get blasted by crit dazzling gleam

[shadow wind]

I love when Kyogre double crits water spout

[foggy lodge]

anyways reg I cart ladder is going to be available this week wujuu

I want to grind this ladder but idk if I have time

Also need a bo1 team

[foggy lodge]

cuz I wanted to play zama csr smeargle but playing zama csr in bo1 is asking to lose

[lofty tartan]

Scarf Lunala. No one will see it coming

[shadow wind]

This guy might be my goat though

[foggy lodge]

True

Indeedee Lunala lead

But nah idk I don't wanna play restricteds that become useless against certain teras

Cuz people are gonna abuse it on bo1 lol

[shadow wind]

Raging bolt just about sold my game so hard jesus

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regibo3-2352958777-8w46tqonjbveq56rq23wi9fcsx1f1x2pw

Bro was doing so good hitting every move

I'm still torn between snarl and eweb but with wake I bet it's fine with eweb

Also CSR Terapagos is such a headache

[astral kelp]

@shadow wind have you tried cooking entrainment lilligant + groudon?

[shadow wind]

Why would I

I don't want to miss my Pblades any faster

[astral kelp]

speedy

actual fair point LMAO

imma try it tho

with fucking

double sun resitrcted

[shadow wind]

But Koraidon is already fast and needs Orichalcum pulse for damage

[astral kelp]

yeah im not usually gonna use entrainment on koraidon

its just to keep sun up lmao

[shadow wind]

Why not use Torkoal or something then

[astral kelp]

eh i should just use torn

omg chlorofill eternatus?

[shadow wind]

Cinema

[astral kelp]

wtf thats like basically my team

but worse

i mean actually idk i gotta try koraidon more maybe it is better

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 189: Jumpluff

Types

Grass/Flying

Abilities

Chlorophyll, Leaf Guard, Infiltrator (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

75/55/70/55/95/110

Total

460

Sableye version 4.28.2

[astral kelp]

they cant do the funny tailwind taunt

[foggy lodge]

It has encorr

Which is better

[shadow wind]

I got crit through reflect then double missed pblades game one and they have the audacity to sleep powder me game 2

[foggy lodge]

Like why would you want taunt when with encore you can punish the status moves lol

Except against TR

[astral kelp]

No I'm running wheezing roaring moon
Roaring moon tail winds and lets wheezing taunt the prankster mons and stop tailwind

[foggy lodge]

0 bulk weezing😭

[shadow wind]

Why can't my luck just be somewhat good

I don't even need like god luck

[astral kelp]

bro all i need is 36 evs into weezing

roaring moon outspeeds opp and weezing outspeeds them in tailwind

[foggy lodge]

what does 36 gets you

Cuz it barely outspeeds Lando I

[astral kelp]

outspeeds whimsy and torn in tailwind

[foggy lodge]

And I still don't know what does that line achieves outside of being annoying

[astral kelp]

you get tailwind up and they cant unless they wait 3 turns or switch out and switch back in

[foggy lodge]

The math ain't mathin

[astral kelp]

oh its timid weezing forgot to say

[foggy lodge]

so yeah 0 bulk

[astral kelp]

you get plenty bulk

[shadow wind]

AV Groudon with rock tomb

[astral kelp]

weezing is o tanky man

[foggy lodge]

+1 76+ Atk Hearthflame Mask Tera Fire Ogerpon-Hearthflame-Tera Ivy Cudgel vs. 252 HP / 0+ Def Neutralizing Gas Weezing-Galar: 146-172 (84.8 - 100%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO

This also let me run a lot of special bulk which was important against raging bolt and miraidon

Cuz my line against Miraidon was super consistent as long as they don't crit me

[shadow wind]

It wouldn't be +1

[astral kelp]

^

[foggy lodge]

Depends cuz if weezing switches out or if hearthflame teras without weezing on the field it keeps it

[shadow wind]

Assuming lead Weezing

[astral kelp]

even if it was i feel like outspeeding prankster mons with taunt is way more impactful thnan living that

[foggy lodge]

i still don't know what does it achieve😭

Cuz let's assume they have for example a Zamazenta

[astral kelp]

bro youre stopping tailwind?

[foggy lodge]

With tornadus

What do you do with weezing roaring there

[astral kelp]

tailwind taunt, torn cant tailwind back or taunt it will do nothing unless it clicked bleakwind, roaring moon might die to body press, weezing should live a heavy slam, either way if they die you can switch in your csr or zamazenta and outspeed them for pretty much the rest of the game

[bold geode]

What's happening chat

[foggy lodge]

That's assuming you can win the trade

[foggy lodge]

Nothing tbh just discussing some things

[astral kelp]

wdym?

[foggy lodge]

That csr dies to bleakwind heavy slam

[astral kelp]

yeah thats very true

this team lets you get speed control every game guaranteed pretty much

but the problemw ith weezing is how it cant really do much after that

but yeah if you run bulkier weezing that fact doesnt change lol

thats kinda why im shopping around for different teams rn

[shadow wind]

Man Incin Rillaboom really just fries my entire team

Those 2 are such a headache

[astral kelp]

yeah fake out cycling is so annoyingh

[shadow wind]

Especially when I have Zacian

[astral kelp]

wait connor whats the team?

[foggy lodge]

I told drago about Eternatus

That shit destroys the fwg core

[foggy lodge]

Ah I built something similar

Just chi-yu over walking wake I think

Or Jumpluff

That slot was changing

[astral kelp]

i saw this sick anti incin tech in the tournament

okidogi

i was thinking about trying okidogi zacian

[foggy lodge]

Its good against Rilla too

[astral kelp]

yup

[foggy lodge]

So you punish the rotation

[shadow wind]

Hmmm

[astral kelp]

it was very cool tech

[foggy lodge]

I have to make my in game teammm

[shadow wind]

It's actually a pretty solid idea

[foggy lodge]

My last in game team was weezing csr

I wanted to build the koraidon venusaur

But reg G was already ending and it wasn't worth it

[astral kelp]

oh ye btw could i see that team?

[foggy lodge]

I don't have it on my phonee

But its kyle Livinghouse's team

[bold geode]

Oh yeah I'll have to build my GC stuff in game

[astral kelp]

whens the gc?

[bold geode]

I believe it's the weekend after Milwaukee?

[gentle crag]

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X · Apr 23, 2025, 4:50 PM

dollarmonke (ID 817628066020065280)

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[foggy lodge]

https://pokepast.es/edfb1fb46cc47379

[bold geode]

Yup
Weekend after Milwaukee

[foggy lodge]

I just went drain punch > heavy slam on hands cause I didn't find too much value on it and strange steam > dazzling gleam geezing cuz I think dazzling gleam weezing is an abomination lol

[astral kelp]

agree

like wow 2 damage to both opp mons

[foggy lodge]

strange steam fished for confusion

[astral kelp]

strange steam at least can force koraidon to tera lmao

[foggy lodge]

which was unironically useful sometimes lol

[bold geode]

Actually first time I'm looking forward to a GC lol

[foggy lodge]

I could fish it on passive positions

And dazzling gleam failed to ko an already chipped roaring moon so the moment it didn't ko i changed it lol

Also didn't miss too much

[astral kelp]

4 SpA Weezing-Galar Strange Steam vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Koraidon: 180-216 (102.2 - 122.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO dazzling cant do that

[foggy lodge]

True

[astral kelp]

dude

[foggy lodge]

Does this thing has another useful fairy coverage

[astral kelp]

inner focus is actually genius

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 110: Weezing-Galar

Types

Poison/Fairy

Abilities

Levitate, Neutralizing Gas, Misty Surge (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

65/90/120/85/70/60

Total

490

Base Species

Weezing

Sableye version 4.28.2

Weezing-Galar's moveset:

Physical Moves

Assurance, Bide, Body Slam, Brutal Swing, Double Hit, Double-Edge, Explosion, Facade, Frustration, Giga Impact, Gunk Shot, Gyro Ball, Headbutt, Natural Gift, Payback, Play Rough, Rage, Return, Rollout, Secret Power, Self-Destruct, Tackle, Take Down, Thief

Special Moves

Acid Spray, Belch, Clear Smog, Dark Pulse, Dazzling Gleam, Fairy Wind, Fire Blast, Flamethrower, Heat Wave, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Incinerate, Infestation, Misty Explosion, Overheat, Psybeam, Psywave, Round, Shadow Ball, Shock Wave, Sludge, Sludge Bomb, Sludge Wave, Smog, Snore, Spit Up, Strange Steam, Tera Blast, Thunder, Thunderbolt, Uproar, Venoshock, Zap Cannon

Status Moves

Aromatherapy, Aromatic Mist, Attract, Captivate, Confide, Corrosive Gas, Curse, Defog, Destiny Bond, Double Team, Endure, Flash, Grudge, Haze, Memento, Mimic, Misty Terrain, Pain Split, Poison Gas, Protect, Rain Dance, Rest, Scary Face, Screech, Sleep Talk, Smokescreen, Spite, Stockpile, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Swallow, Taunt, Torment, Toxic, Toxic Spikes, Venom Drench, Will-O-Wisp, Wonder Room

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Weezing-Galar.

Sableye version 4.28.2

[astral kelp]

misty explosion

wait

[foggy lodge]

It has play rough ig,,,

[astral kelp]

omg i should run acid spray

[foggy lodge]

That actually sounds more consistent for the tailwind line you said

Cuz csr is in the back and it just sweeps

[astral kelp]

i mean thats still good and consistent

it just lets me do more with weezing

[foggy lodge]

Yeah

[astral kelp]

because thats like the main problem with weezer

[foggy lodge]

weezer😭

[foggy lodge]

o wi u i look just like buddy holly

I have to search competitive shinies in game

I was so lucky that the random koffing i caught one year ago was 1 atk iv lmao

[spark delta]

Hey for Competitive does anybody know the best natures for Sylveon and Vaporeon

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 888: Zacian-Crowned

Types

Fairy/Steel

Abilities

Intrepid Sword

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

92/150/115/80/115/148

Total

700

Weight (Low Kick BP)

355kg (120 BP)

Height

2.8m

Introduced

Generation 8

Base Species

Zacian

Egg groups

Undiscovered

Gender Ratio

N/A: 100%

Required Item

Rusted Sword

Battle Only

This Pokémon only appears in battle.

Color

Blue

Sableye version 4.28.2

[foggy lodge]

I could have the optimal shiny geezing

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 889: Zamazenta-Crowned

Types

Fighting/Steel

Abilities

Dauntless Shield

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

92/120/140/80/140/128

Total

700

Weight (Low Kick BP)

785kg (120 BP)

Height

2.9m

Introduced

Generation 8

Base Species

Zamazenta

Egg groups

Undiscovered

Gender Ratio

N/A: 100%

Required Item

Rusted Shield

Battle Only

This Pokémon only appears in battle.

Color

Red

Sableye version 4.28.2

[shadow wind]

Why does it weigh double

[foggy lodge]

It has a big ass shield over all his body and has 60 more defenses

Also ig because it's male usually males are heavier

[shadow wind]

Erm actually they're both genderless 🤓

[foggy lodge]

Huh

I remember they called them brother and sister in sw/sh story

[rustic mountain]

modest or quiet for sylveon generally depending on team comp and for vaporeon prolly bold or calm

[shadow wind]

Ok well considering how Zacian is actually taller I don't think the gender thing even applies

Wait

I can't read

[foggy lodge]

Zama is taller

[shadow wind]

By 10 cm

[rustic mountain]

better for a groudon player, this way u cant read that u missed

[foggy lodge]

My biggest question has always been why does zacian gets faster with the armour

[shadow wind]

Only reason I'm still using him

[foggy lodge]

Like wtf does the wings make her more aerodynamic

[shadow wind]

"Oh that's weird why didn't their health go down? Must've protected"

[rustic mountain]

lmao

keeps ur sanity

[foggy lodge]

Accuracy deniers be like "must have been a protect"

[rustic mountain]

me wen csr/zama takes milwaukee:

[foggy lodge]

I want a funny restricted to get far pleaseeee

[rustic mountain]

like wat

[foggy lodge]

Usually early metas are funny we had Keanu's Latios Goltres Zama at Indianapolis

[foggy lodge]

Kyurem White

[rustic mountain]

[shadow wind]

I got bets on Ho oh

[foggy lodge]

Do we believe still in Ho-Oh gang

Cuz I think Ho-Oh is kinda a fraud

[shadow wind]

Bro is not fraudulent

[rustic mountain]

ho oh maybe but honestly could see it doing extremely bad

it has use case but still

[astral kelp]

wait some random ass koffing

[foggy lodge]

When I saw the screenshot of 34% from a body press I stopped believing on it lol

[foggy lodge]

Yeah lmao

[astral kelp]

lmfao nice

[foggy lodge]

I also wanted a shiny 0 speed smeagle

[rustic mountain]

34% isnt bad and u likely burn zama in return and can switch out and regain most of that health back if need be or just recover

[astral kelp]

brtuh i gotgta build my team now

[foggy lodge]

But I don't play hard TR so yeah

[astral kelp]

i have this shiny zamazentas that came from an event

but theres like a solid 20% chance it was cheatde

like A DO I USE IT?

[shadow wind]

There's a hack check here

[foggy lodge]

Idk if they can verify that

[shadow wind]

Bro the frame I add Okidogi to the team to test Incin and Rillaboom vanish from existence

[astral kelp]

Dude do it

[shadow wind]

I've been using it

[astral kelp]

It wiped through my team

[rustic mountain]

if u didnt obtain it urself likely was genned tbh but laddering is usually fine if theres nothing outright wrong w/ it stat or move wise. just as long as u keep it for personal use

[astral kelp]

Oh shi who did you replace?

[shadow wind]

Grimmsnarl

[foggy lodge]

I also got a shiny zamazenta from the event but was from a giveaway for people that didn't get it

[astral kelp]

Yeah

It such a sussy mon

[foggy lodge]

I assume it's legal because I trust the people in that server and I even used it at my first local and nothing happened

[rustic mountain]

if it was a giveaway from here its good, other sources cant necessarily speak for

[astral kelp]

I talked to the people in charge of the event

When iw went to a toruney

He said it should be fine lmao

[rustic mountain]

[astral kelp]

But like he seemed so clueless 😭

[foggy lodge]

gang would u use a 31 atk shiny lunala or no

[astral kelp]

yo electro you played a lot of weezer what do you think i should replace with acid spray?

[foggy lodge]

Will o wisp

[astral kelp]

yeah koraidon tera fire anywasys you right

[foggy lodge]

In my experience burning wasn't that important with csr weezing cuz I usually could kill things before

And most of the team was frail

[shadow wind]

Yea

[foggy lodge]

Maybe with another sets with Koraidon it could use it cuz they play a but bulkier but nothing more

Goggles Weezing cooks

[astral kelp]

yeah usually lorb koraidon

[shadow wind]

How have I actually gone 4 games without seeing Incin Rilla

[foggy lodge]

Nah just the ability shield koraidon with weezing teams

[astral kelp]

they know

[shadow wind]

I feel like the ladder saw me put Okidogi on my team

[foggy lodge]

THAT HAPPENS A LOT

[astral kelp]

i mean opponent lol

wait oh i see i misunderstoof wym

[shadow wind]

Like before I put it on it was all CSR Zama/Terapagos with Rilla Incin

[foggy lodge]

I would tech something on my team with a move and it suddenly dissapeared from the ladder

[shadow wind]

Which means that it definitely isn't the right answer

[astral kelp]

im not really feeling the amoongus anymor i want another special attacker but i need something that can be good in trick room

[astral kelp]

csr terapagos?

[shadow wind]

Yes

It is incredibly common for some reason

[astral kelp]

istg i havent seen a terapagos in like 300 games

[foggy lodge]

Its a good duo

Its super simple tbh csr forces teras -> Terapagos punishes them

[astral kelp]

i guess the idea is terapagos sets up while csr diverts attention?

[foggy lodge]

• one is good against what the other is bad to

[astral kelp]

true terapagos gets rolled by fighting types

[foggy lodge]

Mhm

[shadow wind]

It's also just the circle jerk of fake out + grassy terrain for everyone

Finally

Jesus that took 8 years to find

[astral kelp]

thats the most

boring uncreative team ive ever seen in my entire life

[foggy lodge]

The csr pagos incin rilla rockpon core is super good

[shadow wind]

Lile legit my 7th game with Okidogi

[foggy lodge]

Rockpon is necessary imo to beat Miraidon

[shadow wind]

Bro that ain't a core that's the entire team 😭

[foggy lodge]

I was experimenting with the last slot

[astral kelp]

[foggy lodge]

Between urshifu screamtail and ditto

[astral kelp]

you dont need rockpon to beat miraidon?

[foggy lodge]

Nah you do

[astral kelp]

im pretty sure its for cir

[foggy lodge]

Mainly for CIR yeah

But also in reg G rockpon was super important for pagos in that match up

When I played that team I would lead rilla pagos and rockpon Scream tail in the back and would usually be fine

Incin could also be good depending on the comp

Heatran was trash tho lmao

[astral kelp]

heatran is turbo trash

[rustic mountain]

the homies

• ditto

minus ditto lmao fuck discord bulleting that

maybe boring but its certainly strong

[astral kelp]

yeah

[shadow wind]

Messages like this tilt me

[astral kelp]

LOL why

youre unl cuky

[shadow wind]

It's pointing out the obvious when they can't relate to it

[rustic mountain]

?

i think the point is they can

we all get unlucky at some point or another

[shadow wind]

Oh for sure

[foggy lodge]

True

[astral kelp]

i feel like its a message people send when they feel bad for a crit

[rustic mountain]

but yea also i get it, u dont need to say anything either

[astral kelp]

or a dodge

[foggy lodge]

Gang if you were at a regional and won a round by rng

Would u say sorry or just don't say anything and go

[shadow wind]

And missed an eweb

😔

[astral kelp]

well its a regional a lot more intense than a casual game

[shadow wind]

Okidogi is gone

[astral kelp]

NOOO

[rustic mountain]

well that was quick

[shadow wind]

Yeah I played against CSR Zama with the fake out fellas and lost 0-2

[rustic mountain]

oof

[shadow wind]

Thank you game

[foggy lodge]

What can I add agghh https://pokepast.es/5158c740b9d64cdc

[shadow wind]

I definitely deserved that

[astral kelp]

gone but not forgotten

[shadow wind]

Gone and forgotten instantly

[foggy lodge]

As it should

[shadow wind]

The team is off by like the smallest bit and I can't figure out what it is

[rustic mountain]

y jumpluff

[astral kelp]

ever since playing like over 100 games of lorb comfey i involuntary smile upon seeing urshifu dark

[foggy lodge]

I like it and I think its strong

[shadow wind]

Rilla Incin just stroke each other off against me and I can't do anything

[foggy lodge]

But Im not sure with Koraidon

[rustic mountain]

csr/korai is good

[foggy lodge]

When I used it for this reg it was with groudon

Maybe its redundant considering both are super fast

[astral kelp]

btw
i feel like a lot of people expect tera normal nowadays when they see csr vs csr so they psychic instead of astral so i started running tera dark

but that might be just me

[foggy lodge]

This was the original jumpluff team https://pokepast.es/f99753f84217e63b

This was from first week of ladder tho it can be improved a lot

[shadow wind]

Does bro think he's Raichu in 2016?

[foggy lodge]

Tera fairy moonblast > tera water protect lunala
Tera electric > tera sater raging bolt
I'm not sure on darkshifu slot tbh

[rustic mountain]

right flare blitz raichu w/ intimidate ofc

[foggy lodge]

No pivot incin

[shadow wind]

It was from the event, trust me

[foggy lodge]

💔💔💔

[rustic mountain]

no pivot incin is crazy

[shadow wind]

Darn it, it got usage

[astral kelp]

that sounds unbelieveably shit

[astral kelp]

NEVERMIND HAHA

[shadow wind]

I love when Incineroar lives my 252 adamant Groudon

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 727: Incineroar

Types

Fire/Dark

Abilities

Blaze, Intimidate (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

95/115/90/80/90/60

Total

530

Sableye version 4.28.2

[astral kelp]

really??

holy shit

[shadow wind]

252+ Atk Groudon Precipice Blades vs. 252 HP / 156+ Def Incineroar: 156-186 (77.2 - 92%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Bro people just don't think Grimmsnarl is going to do damage

Are we being for real

I was in sun

[astral kelp]

well yeah x4

[shadow wind]

Ice

[astral kelp]

OH

thats way more than i thought goddam

[shadow wind]

100+ SpA Protosynthesis Raging Bolt Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Raichu: 135-160 (80.8 - 95.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

What are we doing folks

[strange fjord]

nah id tera fairy

[shadow wind]

Ladies and gentlemen it was roll

[shadow wind]

I caught the switch in 😭

Twice actually

[strange fjord]

never would see that with my Pikachu. truuust

pika always survives (it has focus sash)

[shadow wind]

Wait

Yknow what beats Rillaboom Incin

Chien Pao Entei !

Yknow what mon loves to be with Chien pao?

Zacian !

Maybe that's the core

https://pokepast.es/5ea9aae3d6e6d248

Maybe something like this

Or band Entei

[strange fjord]

one way to find out

[shadow wind]

Cause usually I like AV Entei but Bolt is the goat

I also have zero clue what the 4th mon should be

It's very physical heavy so I definitely need a special attacker

[strange fjord]

I mean you got the Raikou (Raging Bolt), and Entei, where da Suicune?

[shadow wind]

Wake could work actually

Give wake lorb then and Entei the band

I dig it

https://pokepast.es/8fb02a30f75d937b

[astral kelp]

wait how are they good into rillacin?

also conner wb just farigiraffe

or even jacks favorite ice axel abuser

[strange fjord]

Chien beats Rilla, Entei beats Incin. Cant intimidate or fake out entei and you can ghost tera da cool cat to avoid FO

[shadow wind]

^

[astral kelp]

ohh icic

i forgot about inner focus

[shadow wind]

Me when I run stone edge !

I'm gonna miss 😔

[strange fjord]

chien also Ice Spinner da rilla. gets rid of terrain. Plus lowers defense for entei to do more damage

[astral kelp]

honestly after playing conners team i kinda wanna make a team with chientei

[shadow wind]

https://pokepast.es/b149c68824b9eafb

[astral kelp]

it actually feels so nice to use

[shadow wind]

Ok team made in like 8 minutes

That's a PB lowkey

Had to make up EVs too

[strange fjord]

I think someone won a regional with a team they made in 10 min. They said it just came all together when they got interviewed

[astral kelp]

thats just how it be

[shadow wind]

Once you have an idea it's there

Now thinking about the teams I make they're usually made in under like 20 minutes

[astral kelp]

i think most teams are like that

you take like 10 minutes basic concepting

then the rest is just adaptations and stuff

[shadow wind]

Exactly

[astral kelp]

we call that iterating

[shadow wind]

Why did I think tera water lorb Wake in sun would OHKO Zacian

[astral kelp]

best way to do anything

[shadow wind]

Dang I was really about to forfeit then I got a roll

[astral kelp]

NEVER FF

[shadow wind]

And then they forfeit when I could've missed play rough

51 to 44 roll is devastating

EVs of a legend apparently

[strange fjord]

think i had someone forfeit when i was in a really bad position. it was g1 of a bo3. neva forfeit

[shadow wind]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regibo3-2353002909

[strange fjord]

public replay? im taking that

yeah idk why he forfeit

[shadow wind]

Man if you give me a place to put all my replays I will

I will literally give you so much data

[strange fjord]

i should have all your public replays on MunchTeams. Only searching by team tho.

maybe ill add a player search feature

[shadow wind]

Well maybe this one wasn’t public

Like I would download all my replays and send them in if there was a submission box

Cause you can download replays regardless of the other persons decision

[strange fjord]

it updates every few hours. should have this one up in about 2ish hours

[shadow wind]

🙏🙏

[real prairie]

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X · Apr 29, 2025, 12:51 AM

[shadow wind]

Oh heck nah

These are the reason I will never hit #1

I think I fought that person though

[astral kelp]

yknow i was thinking
i struggle with trick room without amoongus
why dont i just run cornerstone to fuck cir up

[astral kelp]

has anyone thought of foul play tornados

dude why is iron moths movepool so ASS

did they just forget to give it sludge bomb

dude how am i facing 3 weezing teams in a roll wtf

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2353029024
that has to be the cleanest turn 1 ive ever seen

[shadow wind]

Oh wait that’s Bo1

Ok I’m no longer depressed

[astral kelp]

holy shit 2000

[real prairie]

Good odds on them winning Grand challenge i think

they came 2nd in the last one

[shadow wind]

Do they go to tournaments or what? Just a ladder warrior?

[tiny karma]

Ogerpon-Wellspring [Grass/Water]

Resists (0.25x)

Water

Resists (0.5x)

Ground, Steel

Neutral damage

Dark, Dragon, Electric, Fairy, Fighting, Fire, Ghost, Grass, Ice, Normal, Psychic, Rock, Stellar

Weak (2x)

Bug, Flying, Poison

Type Notes

Grass-types are immune to Powder-based Moves.

Sableye version 4.28.2

[real prairie]

Online tournies, as they are Asia based

[astral kelp]

this is actually feeling really fun

[real prairie]

God i hate it just looking at it

[astral kelp]

lololol what about it specifically?

[real prairie]

its a direct counter to my team

[astral kelp]

oh yeah for sure hahahaah

i mean i only have like thunder punch to hit kyogre

[real prairie]

zero speed investment in Zama is interesting

[astral kelp]

yeah im trying it

the idea is entrainment and it should outspeed everything

but its not that good an idea because entrainment runs out if liligant isnt there

[shadow wind]

Ah ok

Makes sense then

[astral kelp]

noiiiice

[real prairie]

Decent place to be:

[exotic grotto]

Amazing team!

[astral kelp]

ty youre my #1 hype man

[gentle crag]

k4x1 has given 1 Gen Rep to fyomin

[rancid musk]

Hello

[real prairie]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2353130339-rsuch447t2isfcmxggvwsaoogo8fpafpw

That read

[solid frigate]

just play well this team also gives me a Headache on My Team

wait it doesn’t have Fake Out Pressure?

Ok yeah sweet deal im in

[foggy lodge]

https://pokepast.es/11f374882675c391

Thoughts

[exotic grotto]

Your team is great!

[solid frigate]

4-2 team huh

[foggy lodge]

btw

what stops japanese players from making something with this at some point https://pokepast.es/a66cc5b9f38ee054

[exotic grotto]

Why do the Pokémon not have any moves?

[foggy lodge]

Nah its just a concept

Not something serious

This team was so cool during sw/sh

[mighty stump]

that together they suck

although unironically I did consider once using Torkoal on a Kyogre team

and Groudon doesn’t rlly mind being in Rain

But those two are just outscaled by like the other potential pairs

[exotic grotto]

Were you able to make them work like a pair?

[bold geode]

You won't build double weather team

[exotic grotto]

Do you think a team requiring both weather and terrain would work?

[bold geode]

One weather one terrain?

[exotic grotto]

Yup!

[spiral ridge]

That’s existed yeah

People use stuff like rilla boom or indeedee with weather setters

And korai mirai could prob work well

[bold geode]

Yeah they exist a lot

[exotic grotto]

Thanks for your answer!

[bold geode]

👍

[bold geode]

Look who we have here

[spiral ridge]

Yeah answering for you smh

You took 3 minutes the gaul

[bold geode]

I was outside with my dog

You lil bitch

[spiral ridge]

Sureeee

[bold geode]

🖕

[spiral ridge]

I was being studious as well

[bold geode]

No you weren't

[mighty stump]

i never did it

[mighty stump]

bro it was my first ever team

i did rain/sand

[bold geode]

Yeah but you wouldn't do it again

[exotic grotto]

Thanks for your answer!

[gentle crag]

fyomin has given 1 Gen Rep to woodtofu

[mighty stump]

double terrain is fine tho

[solid frigate]

i mean Grassy+Psychic is fine

[spiral ridge]

Yeah I was

[bold geode]

Nuh Uh

[exotic grotto]

Can terrains co-exist without removing the pervious one?

[solid frigate]

nope

the only thing you can do is

try to juggle around them

[exotic grotto]

Thanks for answering!

[spiral ridge]

I was writing about WWII bitch
Ask me anything on it I probably won’t know it to prove it

[bold geode]

What was the structure they took down in Nazi Germany

Splitting Germany

[spiral ridge]

.-.
Berlin Wall
Which happened much after WWII 😭

The destruction of it

[bold geode]

What was another name for it

[spiral ridge]

WAIT THE ENTIRE THINT WAS AGTER WWII

[bold geode]

HUH

[feral wraith]

Berlin Wall was Cold War

[solid frigate]

1954

[spiral ridge]

I fucking had to double check but I knew that

[bold geode]

Fuck it, still has to do with Nazi Germany

[solid frigate]

and removed in 1989-1990

[solid frigate]

can we even mention tha-

[bold geode]

Hey lemme gaslight Scotty (totally wasn't cuz I didn't know)

[spiral ridge]

I see 1961

[bold geode]

We're talking about WW2 so

[solid frigate]

idk i forgot

[spiral ridge]

I fucking googled to make sure but I was fairly confident
Mainly cus I’ve made the same mistake few months ago 😭😭

[feral wraith]

If you want to gaslight someone you need to start with something not so easily disprovable.

[spiral ridge]

lol

[bold geode]

Idr too much about Nazi Germany but I used to be really into like
Literature surrounding it

[feral wraith]

Try something opinionated like saying Scotty should play Mega Man because he’d really like it

[spiral ridge]

I would like it
But I’m currently playing ihnmaims

[solid frigate]

play NSMBWii

[spiral ridge]

Oo

[solid frigate]

NSMBWii is peak

[spiral ridge]

I loved wonder :)

[bold geode]

There were a few books I had about Nazi Germany

One of them I liked
I forget the name now but the book was like

About a family that digged a tunnel under the wall to escape that side

Also why AoT was so compelling I guess

[solid frigate]

i think its alr

[spiral ridge]

I 100% it in a few days

[atomic mural]

Me too

[solid frigate]

Maybe blinded by Nostalgia cuz NSMBWii is my first Mario Game

[bold geode]

@spiral ridge Eren Yeager is a Jew and you can't convince me otherwise in that series

[spiral ridge]

Average Pokémon fan

[atomic mural]

Crazy

[bold geode]

Am I wrong Scotty?

[solid frigate]

at least its not gen wunner

[spiral ridge]

Idek what to say to this or how you got here

[feral wraith]

Gen 3 all the way

[bold geode]

Bro low-key when I was watching AoT
At one point I was like "this reminds me of Nazi Germany for some reason"
And then when the big plot twist happened I was like "oh yeah that's why"

[solid frigate]

Gen 4 and 6 is very close for me

[bold geode]

And then I went "bro Eren is basically a Jew"

[atomic mural]

I will forever believe that gen 7 was the best

[bold geode]

AoT was actually like
Crazy good

[bold geode]

Oh hey
Did I tell you that Fire Force is airing now?

[spiral ridge]

No but I saw

Oh fuck airing
Didn’t see that

[bold geode]

Absolute cinema
S3 is going

Looked on Crunchy one day and was like we're so back

Apparently JJK is too?

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/light-sun-and-moon-pokemon-ultra-sun-ultra-moon-gif-12165626086548047400

[bold geode]

@mighty stump we're getting closer
To seeing the gambling goat fight

[spiral ridge]

Have you seen more dandadan coming?

[bold geode]

When?

[spiral ridge]

Also honestly next thing I wanna watch is mha spinoff

[spiral ridge]

Pretty fucking soon for how recent s1 was

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/okarun-absolute-cinema-absolute-cinema-okarun-ken-takakura-gif-13879904916108947470

[spiral ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/pop-step-my-hero-academia-vigilantes-mha-vigilantes-kazuho-haneyama-gif-12080395156164176590

[bold geode]

Bro's into that girl smh

Bro Slide and Glide has to be one of the jankiest quirks I've seen

[spiral ridge]

I literally just showed one of the new MCs in case you’ve seen them

[bold geode]

Bro moves around the street face down ass up the whole time

[spiral ridge]

It’s silly yeah

[bold geode]

Like the only guy that beats that is the mfer that has a spray bottle as a head

[spiral ridge]

lol

[solid frigate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1266075657914290208/1346984641067880468/RDT_20250304_110151694089095575826705.gif

[exotic grotto]

Does Protean change the type only once in a battle?

[tiny karma]

Ability: Protean

This Pokemon's type changes to match the type of the move it is about to use. This effect comes after all effects that change a move's type. This effect can only happen once per switch-in, and only if this Pokemon is not Terastallized.

Sableye version 4.28.2

[exotic grotto]

Thanks, Sableye!

[gentle crag]

You cannot rep bots or yourself.

[bold geode]

https://x.com/WolfeyGlick/status/1916697771370819608?t=dttLNf02yVCuyq6ga2vOQg&s=19

Wolfey (@WolfeyGlick) on X

Took Twitter off my phone and spent the last 10 days out of town so I haven't been able to check it

Just got back and checked my notifications - nearly every one is somebody tagging me in an Incineroar related post...

X · Apr 28, 2025, 3:35 AM

[solid frigate]

yeah in Gen 9

Gen 6-8 is WAY more broken

[exotic grotto]

Thanks, Torrent!

[spiral ridge]

Replies are what you’d expect

[chrome knot]

@spiral ridge gib zacian.

[spiral ridge]

I have many at home but not in pretty ball is that ok

[bold geode]

What you doing?

[chrome knot]

goin to milwaukee

[bold geode]

You're using Zacian in Milwaukee?

[chrome knot]

perhaps

[chrome knot]

what ball

[bold geode]

I see

[spiral ridge]

It was kid me so don’t expect anything good
I can check my sword save to see if I’m near catching one there like zama

Can you give me a few hours love?

[chrome knot]

if its in master ball that’s perfect

[spiral ridge]

Oh
You may be in luck

[chrome knot]

lovely

[spiral ridge]

I’d either have used master on eternarus or zacian

If I did use it

[chrome knot]

i made kats team and she had 5 love balls 1 master ball, so if u had master ball zac then id be matching ^-^

[spiral ridge]

Ooo

Kk gimme 5 hours to check then 😭

[chrome knot]

we also wanted to do matchy nicknames which is like cute asf👉👈

[spiral ridge]

Yayy

I’ll check for any zacians I have then

[solid frigate]

Sword doggy moment

[chrome knot]

what item we thinking

[spiral ridge]

LO probably I mean idk what else they could want it to be

[mental mason]

Choice Scarf, obviously.

[chrome knot]

ngl even i dont know the answer

they forfeit on t3 lol

[spiral ridge]

😭😭

[mental mason]

Anyways, I've been playing around these two teams. I'm having trouble into TR atm with both. Can't either take out the TR setter, I guess the wrong one, or my Amoonguss gets taken out. I feel I get outplayed/don't know the calcs well enough to win atm. Any advice? I know I should have the tools to beat it with the First Team Edited 2, but I feel like I'm guessing when using Incin and Amoonguss.

https://pokepast.es/5132f71322db0f6c
https://pokepast.es/1acdeba525ed5eeb

[solid frigate]

is it actually Sash or its Cloak-

[dense latch]

they're gonna get tr up more often than not

your gameplan should revolve around getting around the TR turns effectively rather than trying to stop it

the fact that you have one protect on your entire team is a huge disadvantage

[mental mason]

[dense latch]

you sent the same team twice by the way

[mental mason]

Whoops. Fixed, and thanks.

[dense latch]

i'd go tera water amoong for calyrex ice

and drop sludge bomb probably for protect

[chrome knot]

believe it or not, being an ho team this is fine since ur planning on mostly attacking

[mental mason]

Hmm. Switching to two protects on Amoonguss and Incineroar.

[chrome knot]

(go figure)

[dense latch]

that's true

[mental mason]

Yeah. Amoonguss is primarly my CIR counter, so tera-typing for that is a great idea.

[dense latch]

amoong also feels weird on a team with electric terrain

kinda shooting yourself in the foot

[mental mason]

Why I tried switching off 'em with Ogerpon-C.

[dense latch]

that's fair

[dense latch]

i was just thinking

given that they can't stop tr from going up they just get run over by tr sweepers once it's up with no way to regain some momentum aside from fake out

that's generally an issue with most HO though

[chrome knot]

welcome to the HO solution

kill the setter before it goes up😭

[solid frigate]

or just 4-2 tailroom mode

but like that me

[dense latch]

iron hands could work in this team lowkey

[solid frigate]

so idk

[dense latch]

feel like it's a good speed sandwich for cir and stuff

[solid frigate]

literally my team is just that but TR setter is something else

gone 1500+ with 60% GXE with it

[dense latch]

i was just about to ask if you're willing to share the team with them

since i knew you were on kyogre mirai too

[mental mason]

I think they were the one who helped me pike my duo iirc. Been a few says.

[solid frigate]

Do i even make a rental team for this team-

[spiral ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/dan-heng-hsr-honkai-star-rail-ult-whatever-go-my-scarab-gif-17680743539652752233

[solid frigate]

literally just Imbibitor Lunae team lmao

[spiral ridge]

lol

[chrome knot]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/GpaXKsNXQAAMzn5.gif

[solid frigate]

the team name is also a reference to IL's Ult lmao

[mental mason]

Hmm. I do like the Iron Hands suggestion. Another reason I switched to Ogerpon-C over Amoonguss was for another physical attacker too, so maybe playing around with them might help me out.

[solid frigate]

probably

since Mirai Ogre is a very fast comp this would make sense

[spiral ridge]

Ohhh

[mental mason]

I'll try it out after lunch then. Thanks for the advice you two!

[spiral ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/yuya-sakaki-mtc40-arc-v-pendulum-pendent-gif-24069470

[solid frigate]

Delve Hidden Moon World Cleansing Dragon

But tbf the team enables by Tornshifu 80% of the time

[spiral ridge]

lol

[spiral ridge]

This was such a good yugioh man

[bold geode]

It's GOTTA be Choice Band

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2353332564

[chrome knot]

swsh on da plane(emma does not have zacian)

[spiral ridge]

Ohh you’re already at that part nice

[bold geode]

You flying to Milwaukee now?

[chrome knot]

nah flying home from denver

[bold geode]

I see

[chrome knot]

driving up to milwaukee on thursday

in reality i shoulda booked a 1 way to denver, then flew to milwaukee with kat but

im not the smartest lmao

[spiral ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/yumeko-jabami-蛇喰-夢子-kakegurui-anime-gif-17306696

[spark delta]

For Sword shield competitive which do you guys think for Vaporeon is better a Bold nature or a Calm Nature

It gets access to Scald so with burn it lowers the attack of the enemy and I was thinking Bold but I'm not sure

[exotic river]

how do i teach my indeedee/ hatterene expanding force im building my trick room team

[foggy lodge]

TM

[bold geode]

TM in SV DLC

[shadow wind]

Having Pao + espeed on my team actually kills my braincells

[solid frigate]

espeed go brrr

[shadow wind]

Like I only lead it

[solid frigate]

its basically Tornshifu but like

Even more brain dead

cuz Tornshfu can't be used on certain team comps but Paonite?

Slap it and you nuke stuff

[dense latch]

this was me when i tried pelipper + landorus for the first time

i became a sandsear bot

[shadow wind]

Why did I just run into Koraidon Miraidon HO 2 games in a row

Like same exact team

[maiden fulcrum]

Hey all. Just wondering, how helpful is Showdown in figuring out a team before a new regulation starts if at all? Like do the metas in Showdown and SV tend to differ?

[shadow wind]

It's extremely useful the metas are pretty much the exact same

[maiden fulcrum]

Nice

[shadow wind]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regibo3-2353541599

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regibo3-2353543502

Like I feel braindead with these 2

Banded Entei does feel funny to use though

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regibo3-2353549127

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regibo3-2353550376

Game one was just sad