competitive_discussion

[lofty tartan]

So no matter what it's a two hit even at Modest

Man blowing Tera for that is idk

[astral kelp]

yeah on a terapagos team its so stupid lmao

[lofty tartan]

There are ways to deal with fighting types that are not so resource-heavy

Like if your solution to a problem is you have to Tera almost all of the time, it's not a real solution

That's something I learned from Yotam

[astral kelp]

yeah i know

like i fully get all that

comfey is a pet pokemon thats the only reason im running it lol

[cyan smelt]

That's why I stopped using spiritomb for tr

[lofty tartan]

Okay that's different.

If you're forcing it to force it then no argument can really sway that

[astral kelp]

yeah sorry

[lofty tartan]

All good

[astral kelp]

i mean tbh this team in general isnt ideal lol

its so heavily reliant on rapagos

[lofty tartan]

If you can identify that, then it's fine.

[astral kelp]

if it dies early my other mons cant really win

[lofty tartan]

It's not like a terrible team.

[astral kelp]

like fr rn my other wincon is fucking comfey calmm mind

it kinda works

[lofty tartan]

Nah Rilla is a win condition

[astral kelp]

yeah sorta

he kinda kills himself pretty hard

[lofty tartan]

Rilla Incin can carry hard

That's why it was an immediate thing to staple to our reg I team. Rock solid and sometimes just wins

[astral kelp]

yeah thats true lol

yknow i was considering dropping rilla for oger

but losing grassy terrain, a fake out user and just in general rilla is so bad

[left bobcat]

RILLA BAD?

[astral kelp]

one of the most disgusting things is just fake out, u turn, fake out, parting shot infinitely lopping its crazy lol

[left bobcat]

Yeah

[astral kelp]

cuz you can also protect rapagos in switching turns

[left bobcat]

Yeah

[astral kelp]

so terapagos is essentially playing singles lmao

[left bobcat]

Mhm

Yeah terapagos bad

Just like balenciaga

[lofty tartan]

Fake Out cycling is really strong, yeah

[astral kelp]

what is bro cooking

CTS MOMENT

[left bobcat]

Well damn

Although it would’ve been funny to see ice rider Tera fighting close combat

[astral kelp]

dude tera fighting tera blast csr seems kinda insane when you thinnk about

hits normal and dark types which are its offensive weaknesses

[mighty stump]

Why do you need to do that when you can just run Zama next to it lol

[lofty tartan]

Zamarama

[astral kelp]

lol yeah haha

[chrome knot]

https://x.com/JoeMerrick/status/1915632124536750432

Joe Merrick (@JoeMerrick) on X

It's time.

The Alola Sitting Cuties are coming out next month in Japan

X · Apr 25, 2025, 5:01 AM

🥺🥺🥺

[mighty stump]

for a sitting cutie lunala aint sitting

[foggy lodge]

can dugtrio sit

[real prairie]

LOL - Just read that as "Does a Mole have an ass if you never see it"

[river magnet]

I'm not even full British I'm half South African

But you are right in that digestives fucking slap

[spiral ridge]

You give me shit I’m not actually British so yeah you’re gonna be called on for British shit

[lofty tartan]

Tea is for everyone

[river magnet]

Tea with plain digestives for dipping

[solid frigate]

i like Tea over coffee

[patent marsh]

I mean everywhere has their own like malaysia's is dipping toast with butter and coconut jam in milo(malt chocolate drink) or teh tarik(milk tea)

[spiral ridge]

Coconut jam sounds really good if I liked coconut 😭

[patent marsh]

Coconut gud

How not like

[patent marsh]

The places that serves this can also serve a fresh coconut if you wanted one

Cause they're everywhere and called mamaks here

Can also get teh o ais(just plain tea with ice)

[spiral ridge]

Texture

Grainy

[chrome knot]

coconut mall

[spiral ridge]

Yes

[astral kelp]

i feel like its defauly posiotion is sitting

if its butt is touching ground == sit right

[solid frigate]

i forgot This exists

[solid frigate]

insert Coconut Mall theme

[chrome knot]

yay

coconut mall is an oddly techy track in mkwii lmao

[solid frigate]

Its kinda hilarious to think about that

Its one of the easier tracks as well yet we can phase through the mall

[chrome knot]

no glitch category

if you drive slow ur pace locked by car cycles

[solid frigate]

ah that

yeah makes sense

Man i wanna play MKwii again

i have it in my wii but like

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/cachorro-gif-3496462739915813872

[spiral ridge]

Real

I’m so fucking exhausted today idk why

[opal inlet]

hop on showdown

[spiral ridge]

School WiFi has it blocked

I used to be a menace before it got blocked

[chrome knot]

why tf they block showdown @ school

[opal inlet]

vpn

[dense latch]

i just use my phone's hotspot at school

[spiral ridge]

They suck

I played on laptop so

Was being a reg H menace in class (I was doing shit)

[solid frigate]

its a game so yeah

mine was also blocked

[spiral ridge]

And they don’t like seeing phones so couldnt rly do phone

[chrome knot]

ah

[opal inlet]

vpn

[spiral ridge]

I don’t know a vpn for laptop

[plain drum]

He's cooked chat

[opal inlet]

proton

is free

[spiral ridge]

Cool but

Honestly if I wanna mess around in class again ima just like

https://tenor.com/view/cat-orange-cat-with-orange-cute-cat-sleepy-cat-gif-13584013934695478445

[opal inlet]

his greed sickens me

[spiral ridge]

Forgot I can’t talk about it so just think what things have orange logo

[opal inlet]

dawg

in class????

[solid frigate]

cat

[spiral ridge]

NOT THAT ORANGE LOGO

DEAR GOD CLOVE

[solid frigate]

LMAO

[opal inlet]

im disappointed in you scotty

[solid frigate]

caught in 4K

[spiral ridge]

Have to DM this mfer

[spiral ridge]

You can not talk you send me horny bait cosplayers around the fucking clock

[solid frigate]

Bro got exposed

[opal inlet]

THERES NO HORNY

https://tenor.com/view/teto-mesmerizer-gif-1651698684609187246

[spiral ridge]

.-.

[solid frigate]

im just watching People exposing each other

[plain drum]

Wait what

Yeah what the fuck haha

[spiral ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/fat-teto-teto-fatass-teto-fatteto-gif-3179709170918698747

[solid frigate]

Eni lets just let em do whatever

[opal inlet]

big back teto

[bold geode]

SHE'S BIG BONED OKAY

[spiral ridge]

We literally just watched her expand horizontally by thrice

[bold geode]

Wow are you fat shaming Scotty

[spiral ridge]

I’m within my own field of expertise

[mild spoke]

I got a weird question.... Can someone help me get better at competitive? I want to go into tournaments one day and ill think it would be fun

[real prairie]

Not a weird question at all

start by looking at the pinned material, it will help you understand the fundamentals

from there feel free to use some of the #rental_teams to have some fun on either console or Pokemon Showdown and get used to piloting teams

[real prairie]

i was not aware conkeldor got wide guard

[left bobcat]

“CONKULDUUR” -wolfey

[solid frigate]

it does which is well normal at this point

[real prairie]

more you know

#2 seems dodge

85.7% GXE

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9randomdoublesbattle-2350542204-d8uf1y36gxu675rubxt2b2sbx5x0nhypw

i think i made someone raged so hard

ik its not VGC but like

[real prairie]

Morris P Hax

Speaking of hax

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen9vgc2025regi-2350550876

https://tenor.com/view/so-pissed-im-work-mad-gif-23416426

erm.... why is the terrain still up?https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2350558097-t6yk1692x31h9engueufukrgwxo88rvpw

Okay, so if I die to rocky helmet, ice spinner doesn't work...

[lofty tartan]

Yeaaaah it's a very awkward interaction

[fleet valve]

Can anyone here help me fix my team?

[dapper flume]

can anyone help me out, I have a rental team question. Basically I want to make many rental teams, and save them to use in future. I know I can have 6 Battle teams in the game, and then I can share another 5 teams (from those 6 originally) via the share function, and record their codes. I can do that, and then make new in-game battle teams, so then I have 11 battle teams saved. Is this the limit (per user)? As I cannot then share more squads online as far as I can tell

[bold geode]

Yes that is the limit

[dense latch]

what's the team

[fleet valve]

Rn I’m building it around greninja is

But it is raging bolt kyoger Calyrex greninja rapid strike lucario

[dense latch]

what does lucario accomplish

[fleet valve]

Counters fairy

[chrome knot]

@bold geode basedbasedbasedbased

[bold geode]

Based based based based

[plain drum]

What a lineup

[bold geode]

I'd try to use another Steel type or even Amoongus can be good

[fleet valve]

What should be amongus moves and stats

[bold geode]

Amoonguss @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Regenerator
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 244 HP / 156 Def / 108 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 27 Spe

• Rage Powder
• Sludge Bomb
• Spore
• Protect
  Something like this

[chrome knot]

tourneys this weekend + possibly milwaukee 6

[solid frigate]

what the heck-

why Lucario in here

also Calyrex is so good that It nukes Flutter Anyway

[fleet valve]

Oh

So abt kyoger what would it look like?

[fringe fossil]

would heatran be a good replacement for regirock on my TR team?
https://pokepast.es/c13e6978f0ab5ab5
this is how I built him after looking on munchstats and doing some thinking

[foggy lodge]

Is it supposed to be a hard TR team?

[fringe fossil]

I think so? im new to vgc and I thought id want to mainly play around trick room and then id have fluttermane in the back either if TR doesnt work out or after TR expires to clean up a bit

[foggy lodge]

The team looks weird

Because Flutter loses a lot of purpose there

If you play Flutter here you would want some kind of fast mode with Chi-Yu for example

Or an Ogerpon

If its hard TR its better to just look at how hard TR teams were in reg G

With Indeedee, Smeargle, Ursaluna, Torkoal, Hatterene, Gallade, etc

[fringe fossil]

got it yeah the team is definitely weird I dont rly know what im doing. I definitely will but Im also considering a fast mode as well because ive had games were trick room doesnt work out well I can bring a faster squad

[mental mason]

Hmm. So far I'm 3-5 today. Breaking for now though. Mostly mistakes and being outplayed on my end. Gotta look up some how to use Incineroar and amoonguss. I'm thinking of a sash build on tornadus for leading into a Miraidon now.

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/urshifu-rapid-strike-surging-strike-pokemon-tower-of-waters-gif-23032736

just do this

that carried me to that position

also yes the reason i did so much battles cuz i want an accurate test on it

[mental mason]

[left bobcat]

HOW LOWWWWWW

[near crag]

What mons y’all think work with lunala + smeargle htr?

Feel like I’m almost required to run CIR in order to make it work

And if I do, urshifu single strike demolishes me

[left bobcat]

Hmmmmmm

Clearly incin duhhhh

And ig Groudon/kyogre

Well depends if we’re talking reg I

[near crag]

Why incin?

[mystic steppe]

I love this time in the season when most of the tryhards are done ranking and people bring teams that don't have restricteds. So much more diversity.

[near crag]

Fair enough

[next stump]

try hards 😦 it’s a ranked game

[mystic steppe]

No I get you, that was a harsh term. But the meta only users I guess I should say 🤷🏼

[next stump]

have you tried pokemon showdowns custom formats with more restrictions?

[solid frigate]

so reg H?

[mystic steppe]

I don't like showdown. I'm hoping they implement that into champions

[mystic steppe]

Ugh, my fave. Again though I know it's personal preference and I respect the actual frontline competitors

I understand why Wolfey was like, I'm only using "good" pokemon after messing around for a while

[solid frigate]

i mean

I don't think Restricted formats are that bad once you know how to play it,Reg H is fine,but the format impression got ruined by Sneasler-

[solid frigate]

yeah cuz he already have the amount of 3 worlds invite lmao

[mystic steppe]

Well that and he's tired of losing to the same handful of pokemon

By choice

[chrome knot]

what does this mean😭

[solid frigate]

Emma idk what that means honestly

[mystic steppe]

Restricted formats aren't that bad. But there are so many unviable pokemon that actually have cool kits in more reasonable formats. That's why I think champions will hopefully account for this.

[chrome knot]

woooOooOoo a structured teaaaammmm

avert your eyess

[mystic steppe]

I am living for the name GIRLHELL 1999

[chrome knot]

femtanyl

[mystic steppe]

🙌

[solid frigate]

The Nicknames LMAO

Everyone is like AHHHHHHHHH and then there's Ogerpon lol

[chrome knot]

its kats ogerpon

[solid frigate]

makes sense

[chrome knot]

it has the partner ribbon

so its “kat the Reliable Partner” ^-^

[solid frigate]

aww

[bold geode]

Ice Rider
Other Hard TR stuff
Tork probably works

[near crag]

If I do that, how do I deal with Single strike ursh?

[bold geode]

Defensive teras
Playing around it

[chrome knot]

be brave tbh

letting it control the way you play the mu is how u lose to it

[bold geode]

True

[chrome knot]

if u can maneuver around it tbh its a free +1 for cir

obviously easier said than done but

[forest arrow]

Love the hands nickname lol

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regibo3-2350811876
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regibo3-2350813957

Man

the misplay from them in G2

[left bobcat]

Because why not incin?

[astral kelp]

omg i feel so heard

the lorb comfey

[chrome knot]

i sure hope it doesnt tera fire

[astral kelp]

it would never

if they tera then terapagos one shots

i mean not really but hahah

[solid frigate]

lorb Korai Nukes Pagos

and they always have a Secondary Sun setter (Whims or Torn)

[astral kelp]

yeah you cant lose tera shell against koraidon or you lose

unless you kill koraidon first somehow

you have to fake out cycle properly

[forest arrow]

hmm

[left bobcat]

Yeah

Cooked

No Lemon pepper

[astral kelp]

holy piplup

man i need a gameplan to beat farigiraffe

definitevly wont bring comfey into it next time

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/tcnick3-piplup-penguin-gif-11133432769360644718

[shadow wind]

Is that a party crashers references?

[lofty tartan]

👀

[azure ether]

Oh boi it's finally happening

[bold geode]

Oh event?

Which one is that

[azure ether]

Philippines Master Ball League

Counts as our Nationals, top 12 gets Worlds invites

[bold geode]

I see
Reg G or

[azure ether]

Reg G

[bold geode]

Oh I see

What's the sauce

[azure ether]

Bringing Jack's Scarf Kyogre team

In a region that loves TR

[foggy lodge]

bets on what wins seville

Tomorrow is also johannesburg but its so small lol

[bold geode]

Lol
Good luck bro

[bold geode]

Zamazenta cuz I'm hard coping

[foggy lodge]

I think Miraidon or CSR

My cope is pagos

[bold geode]

Honestly Pagos or Koraidon
Mainly cuz idt at this point anyone is gonna really make innovations for Reg G

Honestly I wish we'd have another Utrecht moment where something comes outta left field but I think we had that with Lunala

Utrecht was fuckin hype last year

The boy Tyo poppin off

[shadow wind]

Y'all ever just accidentally boot up Bo3 instead of Bo1

Cause I sure as heck was surprised when another game started

[forest arrow]

I quit

[bold geode]

What

[solid frigate]

i just did lmao

ended up winning

[shadow wind]

Yeah when I did I lost the first game then realized I needed to lock in

[astral kelp]

Lê teamsheet

Is complete

My buddy drew the mons lmao

[shadow wind]

They're pretty good

[astral kelp]

Ye I like it

[solid frigate]

that match was against Priority spam and i somehow won because Rayquaza is ass

[opal inlet]

https://pokepast.es/0380aa071305d063 as frieza would put, this isnt even my final form

[lofty tartan]

Ho-Oh 😎

[astral kelp]

how do you guys kill the giraffe

my team gets so hard countered by it the more i think about it

im actually starting to consider running roar instead of foul play on my giraffe

[knotty mirage]

If i want to use darkshifu on double is it better to give him focus sash or choice band ?

[lofty tartan]

Either can work

[knotty mirage]

Hmm which one is the best then if i decide to just keep darkshifu with dark tera then ?

[mighty stump]

If you’re choice’d you might want Tera Ghost

if you’re Sash then Stellar

[knotty mirage]

Oh is tera dark is just not that great on darkshifu anymore ?

[solid frigate]

no way there’s a giratina in stream

[left bobcat]

Ooooooooh

[left bobcat]

It is for offense but idk having a 4x weakness you ought to think about something

[next stump]

what’s your team?

sometimes you can piece together a knockout through spread moves or neutral hits

[exotic grotto]

The Giratina won!

[astral kelp]

Knock off and the turtle pretty much

[next stump]

on the bright side, what can their farigiraf do that actually is useful into terapagos?

you can set up in front of it pretty easily

[left bobcat]

GASP NO PICTURE WHERE PICTURE

[exotic grotto]

Is this for a regional tournament?

[left bobcat]

NO PICTURE CANT READ

[astral kelp]

at the back

[left bobcat]

But it’s a lot of support dude

[astral kelp]

Yeah very true

Double terapagos with close combat and psychic and that's about it

[astral kelp]

Yeha in new Zealand lmao

[exotic grotto]

Good luck!

[astral kelp]

Tyty

[gentle crag]

k4x1 has given 1 Gen Rep to fyomin

[astral kelp]

I think the plant for farigiraf is I bring amongus and just rage powder since it's usually with miraj

Like x2 spd terapagos is hard to kill even mirai

Honestly man calcing for this team is making me hate hearthflame

Why tf does it do so much fucking damage

I'm thinking into mirai I have to bring
Turtle mushroom drum boy incin

[exotic grotto]

Can your team win against a Giratina team?

[astral kelp]

Prolly

Comfey unironically wipes

[exotic grotto]

Your team isn't regulation I?

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/misinformation-spreading-spreading-misinformation-online-gif-4543841945782036495

[dapper crag]

nice shot

[solid frigate]

bro underestimated Giratina's Bulk After a Calm Mind

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 487: Giratina

Types

Ghost/Dragon

Abilities

Pressure, Telepathy (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

150/100/120/100/120/90

Total

680

Other Formes

Giratina-Origin

Sableye version 4.28.2

[exotic grotto]

Will Giratina win this special championships..

[solid frigate]

nope

hard loss MU on Calyrexes

[exotic grotto]

Oh, Poor Giratina :(

[solid frigate]

+2 252+ SpA Terapagos-Stellar Tera Starstorm vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Giratina: 115-137 (51.1 - 60.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Bro there is no bulk lmao

[dapper crag]

@solid frigate

can i join ur stellar group

Stellar Novas Teambuilding Group

[solid frigate]

Nope

[solid frigate]

+2 252+ SpA Terapagos-Stellar Tera Starstorm vs. +1 252 HP / 4 SpD Giratina: 77-91 (29.9 - 35.4%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers recovery

At least bro living

[buoyant raft]

Hey what website could I check to see Pokémon stat usage and item with their usage rate

[solid frigate]

munchstats

[next stump]

munchstats

labmaus

[solid frigate]

munchstats is for general use but Labmaus is for like tournament settings and other stuff

[buoyant raft]

Hey I was making a team with landrous therian duskmane and maybe gal moltres and am not sure what Pokemon to add around it cos am not sure what would work any reccom

[solid frigate]

actually just Incarnate Lando+Dusk Mane and Goltres would be fine

[buoyant raft]

What’s the difference between the 2 lands and what makes them so different

[buoyant raft]

Normal or gal moltres y mean?

[solid frigate]

Goltres is Galar Moltres

[solid frigate]

Incarnate is a Sheer Force Life orb SP Attacker
Therian is just worse Incin now

[buoyant raft]

What 3 other pokemon could I add am not doing a trick room for the duskmane too

[mental mason]

https://pokepast.es/1d0ae9b931a0aa59

30-20 over 50 games now. Changed some items around as advised cause I was tired of my Tornadus getting Fake Out'd. Been leading Urshifu-RS and Miraidon more as suggested for the switching to scope out my opponent and I've seen and taken some early kills with that duo too. Been fun. Amoonguss and Incineroar are still causing me trouble when using them as it feels like I'm just guessing, but they have popped off once or twice. Got a Fake Out other mon -> Taunted Amoonguss kill with Sludge Bomb though (Whimsicott through the poison), which is nice.

Loving the accidental opponent tera-typing into a super effective move at least.

[solid frigate]

Dusk Mane+Miraidon is pretty cool

[buoyant raft]

I have scarlet

Was thing brute bonnet or ammo good

[solid frigate]

#trading_sv

[solid frigate]

PIKACHU

[exotic grotto]

P I K A C H U

[astral kelp]

One of these is not like the other

Wait is that giratina in swiss round 3

Ditto incin and rilla with wheezing is wild

Oh I see tô stop armor tial

Yknow now matter how much you feel like you know about the game there's always some dude running toxic stall giratina rillaboom to change your mindset

[exotic grotto]

And the Giratina won too!

[astral kelp]

It was awesome

[exotic grotto]

It may win the entire tournament....

[astral kelp]

So interesting eight

[foggy lodge]

Nah Giratina is not winning shit lol

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/yoshi-mario-yoshis-island-super-smash-brother-super-smash-brother-n64-gif-21681448

[foggy lodge]

What a choke was not killing farigiraf in that turn

[astral kelp]

It was wild because watching it it seemed like absolute dogshit but it still won anyways like wtf

[opal inlet]

chat chat

what if

dawn wings necrozma instead of lunala

[opal inlet]

Is this like a draft or smth

[exotic grotto]

It doesn't have Shadow Shield...

[opal inlet]

it has prism armor which i think is also pretty good

one moment

[tiny karma]

Ability: Shadow Shield

If this Pokemon is at full HP, damage taken from attacks is halved.

Sableye version 4.28.2

[opal inlet]

oh its halved

[next stump]

the casters always make predictions on what pokemon they think will do well

[opal inlet]

pikachu??? 😭

[exotic grotto]

It's really situational, so Lunala will be more competitively viable most of the time

[opal inlet]

yea ig

i did not know shadow shield halves dmg so my fault

i will try out dawn wings for a bit but if it feels worse i’ll just stick to lunala

[bold geode]

How's it going Dillon

[next stump]

good 🙂 how are you doing?

finally have some free time to test a little for milwaukee

[bold geode]

We good

[left bobcat]

We good fam

Noe wha im sayin

[craggy dagger]

[bold geode]

[craggy dagger]

[chrome knot]

@bold geode

im unsure what to do after today tourney outcome

milwaukee istg my 6 will be 6 uses of rng to determine what mons go there

[bold geode]

What happened

[bold geode]

[chrome knot]

just bad tourney day

bo1 so idek what to feel

[bold geode]

Ew
Bad RNG, bad MUs? Or just bad vibes

[chrome knot]

i think i jus lead wrong on most, few bad rng moments

like missing some rolls fucking blows

[bold geode]

Dam that sucks
Which 6 you bring or actually what duo

[foggy lodge]

https://www.pokedata.ovh/standingsVGC/0000142/masters/

Teams are up and Arboliva made day 2 lol

[dense latch]

https://pokepast.es/6206e2e33c31c3c0 crazy team lmao

haven't seen air balloon in a while

[solid frigate]

i think i beat one with Miraidon+Pikachu and Showdown Self Volt Switch animation is funny as fuck

[chrome knot]

cir mirai hearthflame hands grimm farig

[bold geode]

I see
I mean that sounds alright tbh

Probably just bad day, we have those

[chrome knot]

i just don’t know

my problem is the initial miraidon square off, bc past that my play was good but it wasnt what i was looking for

trying to recover such an awful turn 1 is so hard in this format

[bold geode]

Turn 1 can be weird yeah
Wym by the initial Mirai square off?

[chrome knot]

mirai mirror

on leads

[bold geode]

Um
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Is it with a specific duo or just Mirai

Actually @chrome knot have you tried leading Grimm?

[chrome knot]

yes

[bold geode]

I would possibly try to lead something that like
Doesn't make them kill Grimm at the start
Maybe Grimm Oger for Mirai CIR and Grimm + something else for Mirai Lunala? Hands could work theoretically too or maybe even Ice Rider

That's really all I got, idk if you wanna lead Miraidon straight away into the mirror

[chrome knot]

grimm oger just gets farmed by mirai/hands

i need to just be 252timid

[bold geode]

Idk? I mean Grimm is good there either way
Then again it's dependent they lead that tbh
How much did they lead it against you?

Actually are you bulky Mirai or fast Ape shit Mirai?

[dense latch]

showdown bots are crazy

[bold geode]

Honestly @chrome knot here's my thoughts right
The mirror is always gonna be wonky cuz it's gonna go off of what you and your opponent think the other will bring into the MU (this is gonna be the case for every team's mirror)
My thoughts are I'd try to lead Grimm Oger or something BUT if you think they'll lead Mirai Hands, perhaps a lead of Mirai Farig could shake things up

[tiny karma]

Landorus [Ground/Flying]

Immune

Electric, Ground

Resists (0.5x)

Bug, Fighting, Poison

Neutral damage

Dark, Dragon, Fairy, Fire, Flying, Ghost, Grass, Normal, Psychic, Rock, Steel, Stellar

Weak (2x)

Water

Weak (4x)

Ice

Type Notes

Ground-types take no damage from Sandstorm.

Sableye version 4.28.2

[solid frigate]

Lmao

[chrome knot]

https://pokepast.es/c9282f02dfe947db like it could just be

[tiny karma]

Blacephalon [Fire/Ghost]

Immune

Fighting, Normal

Resists (0.25x)

Bug

Resists (0.5x)

Fairy, Fire, Grass, Ice, Poison, Steel

Neutral damage

Dragon, Electric, Flying, Psychic, Stellar

Weak (2x)

Dark, Ghost, Ground, Rock, Water

Type Notes

Ghost-types are immune to effects that prevent Switching.
Fire-types cannot be Burned.

Sableye version 4.28.2

[upbeat venture]

Hey guys what is flutter mane weak to again?

[bold geode]

I mean yeah that looks good

[upbeat venture]

I know them I just came be bothered to work them all out lol

[bold geode]

Steel
Ghost

[upbeat venture]

That’s it?

Oh my god

[tiny karma]

Flutter Mane [Ghost/Fairy]

Immune

Dragon, Fighting, Normal

Resists (0.25x)

Bug

Neutral damage

Dark, Electric, Fairy, Fire, Flying, Grass, Ground, Ice, Poison, Psychic, Rock, Stellar, Water

Weak (2x)

Ghost, Steel

Type Notes

Ghost-types are immune to effects that prevent Switching.

Sableye version 4.28.2

[upbeat venture]

That thing is a monster

I was just training it because I liked it 💀

[tiny karma]

Zacian-Crowned [Fairy/Steel]

Immune

Dragon, Poison

Resists (0.25x)

Bug

Resists (0.5x)

Dark, Fairy, Flying, Grass, Ice, Normal, Psychic, Rock

Neutral damage

Electric, Fighting, Ghost, Steel, Stellar, Water

Weak (2x)

Fire, Ground

Type Notes

Steel-types cannot be Poisoned.
Steel-types take no damage from Sandstorm.

Sableye version 4.28.2

[spiral ridge]

This thing was scary for a long while too with its tying

[upbeat venture]

I know I was part of them problem lol

I got the shiny zacian event

[bold geode]

Once again
Not everything is just super effective
Strong neutral can be just as impactful and stats are also there

Otherwise

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 571: Zoroark-Hisui

Types

Normal/Ghost

Abilities

Illusion

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

55/100/60/125/60/110

Total

510

Base Species

Zoroark

Sableye version 4.28.2

[bold geode]

You'd see a lot of this bitch

[upbeat venture]

What do you think would be a good moveset for singles fluttermane?

[chrome knot]

https://pokepast.es/c893821a8181873d spreaded

[bold geode]

I mean
Rn depends
What format you looking to use

[bold geode]

I still don't know if Timid is the way but try it still
I'm probably wrong

[upbeat venture]

Singles

[bold geode]

Thing is on that team, the Mirai was max HP so bulky

[bold geode]

Um don't know much there but I'd literally just go like a Choice Specs set with Dazzling Gleam, Moonblast Shadow Ball and a 4th move tbh
Start out with that, see where it gets me

[chrome knot]

it doesnt have to be 100% carbon copy bruh

[bold geode]

I know
That's why I'm saying try it lol

[upbeat venture]

Why dazzling gleam and moonblast, doesn’t that only help in doubles?

[bold geode]

Tbh idek why it was so bulky

[bold geode]

You're right
Just put another move over Gleam, Flutter got some options

[upbeat venture]

Wow, it’s a real monster huh? lol

[tiny karma]

Flutter Mane's moveset:

Physical Moves

Astonish, Giga Impact, Phantom Force, Poltergeist

Special Moves

Charge Beam, Dark Pulse, Dazzling Gleam, Disarming Voice, Draining Kiss, Energy Ball, Hex, Hyper Beam, Hyper Voice, Icy Wind, Magical Leaf, Moonblast, Mystical Fire, Night Shade, Power Gem, Psybeam, Psyshock, Shadow Ball, Stored Power, Swift, Tera Blast, Thunder, Thunderbolt

Status Moves

Calm Mind, Charm, Confuse Ray, Endure, Fake Tears, Helping Hand, Imprison, Mean Look, Memento, Misty Terrain, Pain Split, Perish Song, Protect, Rest, Sleep Talk, Spite, Substitute, Sunny Day, Taunt, Thunder Wave, Trick Room, Wish

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Flutter Mane.

Sableye version 4.28.2

[upbeat venture]

I’ll come up with something and ask for feedback when it’s done :)

[bold geode]

👍

[upbeat venture]

Thank you ♥️

[foggy lodge]

@dense latch its so joever https://x.com/JuanfiVGC/status/1916202283718660269

Juan Francisco Salerno (@JuanfiVGC) on X

¡¡Jorge Tabuyo está on fire: hizo un 8-0 perfecto en el Suizo y ahora mismo es el máximo favorito a ganar el torneo.

En su primer evento presencial, está dominando como si fuera un veterano.

Un maestro utilizando Calyrex Shadow, y está demostrando su dominio.

¿Será el debut

X · Apr 26, 2025, 6:46 PM

[upbeat venture]

Would you have nasty plot on a flutter mane or is it too weak to take the hit?

Wait it doesn’t get nasty plot

Nevermind, my friend lied to me lmao

Shadow ball
Moonblast
Tera blast
Energy ball (to cover Tera type weaknesses)

Tera: fire for steel types
Evs: max spatk and speed
Timid nature

How’s this?

[dense latch]

la mufaaa 😭

[upbeat venture]

@bold geode how’s this? ♥️

[dense latch]

what’s the context of the team?

what you want on flutter sometimes depends on what other mons you have

[upbeat venture]

Fluttermane on singles

[dense latch]

oh singles

[upbeat venture]

I love singles

It’s a lot less sweaty than doubles

[dense latch]

https://munchstats.com/gen9bssregg/0/Flutter Mane maybe this can help

[solid frigate]

i almost send the doubles spread-

[upbeat venture]

Plus no perish song trapping bullshit lol

[solid frigate]

ok thats just wolfey

[bold geode]

If you're going that, Flutter gets Mystical Fire

[dense latch]

no one really uses that in such a high power format aside from wolfey

[upbeat venture]

I saw other people trying it though

[solid frigate]

and failed cuz

Oh look Wolfey team

[upbeat venture]

They think they’re him

[solid frigate]

Flutter Mane @ Booster Energy
Ability: Protosynthesis
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 156 HP / 124 Def / 92 SpA / 4 SpD / 132 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Moonblast
• Dazzling Gleam
• Icy Wind
• Protect

But usually Flutters run these moves

in doubles at least

[dense latch]

singles spread is probably just max max timid tho like you had

[upbeat venture]

The lack of coverage hurts me lol

[bold geode]

No point in Dazzling in singles and idk if you want Icy Wind in that format

[solid frigate]

it really does not matter cuz Flutter Mane does a lot against like the dragon types in doubles and a support

[solid frigate]

i was just refering to doubles

[bold geode]

Shadow Ball
Moonblast
Mystical Fire
Maybe Thunderbolt?

[dense latch]

Flutter Mane @ Booster Energy
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature

• Moonblast
• Shadow Ball
• Taunt
• Mystical Fire

from usage stats apparently this is the most used BSS flutter set

[upbeat venture]

I know and I probably should do that it’s just the 75 power scared me lol

[bold geode]

Why are we referring to doubles for singles

[solid frigate]

Mystical Fire is dope tho

[bold geode]

I mean if you're Tera Fire you get the STAB boost so

[dense latch]

75 + guaranteed sp atk drop is way better than 80 bp that needs tera to actually be fire type

[bold geode]

True
The secondary effects matter too

[solid frigate]

i was saying cuz katie said Perish song stuff and i just show normal flutters run that in doubles anyway

[bold geode]

Yeah but that's irrelevant LOL

[solid frigate]

stops snowballing Potential?

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-revenge-tasty-johnnyduck-gif-18410951520284892563

[bold geode]

It's like showing Lebron's season stats for a football conversation

[upbeat venture]

LMAO

[solid frigate]

i'm done here

[dense latch]

woo lebron

[bold geode]

Anyways, it is tough cuz most of us are VGC people but the Munchstats link up above should be pretty reliable for these things tbh

[upbeat venture]

I’m probably just hyper internet paranoid but the link is safe right?

[dense latch]

it is dw

[upbeat venture]

Im the type to see a pop up and ask if I got a virus lol

[bold geode]

Yeah
Munchstats is a very reliable data source for competitive Pokemon

[upbeat venture]

Awesome, thank you♥️

[bold geode]

👍

Y'know
I wonder how BSS changes with the regs

[upbeat venture]

Do I need booster energy if I’m bringing koraidon?

[dense latch]

i get bss recommendations on my yt feed for some reason

[upbeat venture]

Also what is taunt for?

[dense latch]

stopping hazards i assume

[bold geode]

If you are relying on Sun it's optional if you want to like
Have boost even when Sun isn't an option
Though you can also go for Sash or Specs probably

[dense latch]

and other annoying status moves

[bold geode]

Yeah Taunt stops setup of sorts

[dense latch]

booster is still pretty nice for when sun isn’t up and guarantees you get the edge on the other base 135 speed mons

[upbeat venture]

I probably will honestly, how do you get the boosters?

[dense latch]

but it’s up to you

[bold geode]

But yeah unlike OU, BSS doesn't have bans or tiers and it follows the same regulations VGC does so I wonder how it works out

[bold geode]

Paradox Pokemon have a chance to carry em

[upbeat venture]

Oooh neat

[bold geode]

You'll know they have one if when you encounter them, they use one

[upbeat venture]

That’s so smart actually

Thank you ♥️

[bold geode]

Yup

[upbeat venture]

So maybe
Moonblast
Shadow ball
Mystical fire
Taunt/calm mind?

Would psyshock for physical damage be good?

[solid frigate]

Calm mind in this format is ummm

Iffy

[upbeat venture]

Singles?

I guess that’s true, when you’re the only target setting up is hard

[solid frigate]

yeah it is

[upbeat venture]

So taunt instead? What about the psyshock idea?

[solid frigate]

Psyshock would be cool

but at this point just run Specs

[upbeat venture]

Why specs?

[solid frigate]

boost damage

and i think mystical fire is too important on a singles flutter

if you wanna run Psyshock you can run Specs Flutter and pair it with Sun to get the Speed Boost

[upbeat venture]

I feel like the guaranteed boost is good and I don’t like how limited specs makes you

So if I’m doing specs it’s psyshock if it’s booster it’s taunt?

[solid frigate]

yeah exactly

[upbeat venture]

Ok, sounds good to me, thank you ♥️

Does the decision matter all that much? I mean a majority of the damage would be from the first 3 moves

Also do I change the Tera type?

[lofty tartan]

Say that to my CM Lunala

[upbeat venture]

Oooh I love Lunala

[lofty tartan]

Lunala/HoOh for President of VGC

[solid frigate]

in singles?

[lofty tartan]

No. I'm just talking shit.

[solid frigate]

fair enough lmao

[lost sun]

bruh

[next stump]

do those misses really matter though? frosmoth has to take like 20% from blades

[solid frigate]

lemme do calc

252+ Atk Groudon Precipice Blades vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Frosmoth: 50-59 (28.2 - 33.3%) -- 0.1% chance to 3HKO

[bold geode]

This

@lofty tartan oh btw
What was the name of that other fitness app again?

[lofty tartan]

Gravl

@bold geode

[bold geode]

Thx

[lofty tartan]

Workout info is pretty clear and expandable. It tailors everything with an AI-driven model and works on consistently progressive overload

[shadow wind]

Looks like my average game

[mint void]

I like the guy that made the website

[bold geode]

Bro advertising it

[lofty tartan]

I like Gravl because it's very actively updated and it tailors to my body type and strength

The exercises also aren't like.. Really weird or extreme

Before I even tried it out I was able to speak to one of the devs

[bold geode]

Use code MIKA at checkout to get 10% off your first workout

[solid frigate]

Me when i saw Rock Slide+Dragon Rush Roaring Moon

[near crag]

Just built this HTR team, and it visibly sucks, I just can't tell why: https://pokepast.es/ba33a36a51a928f7 Any ideas? Thanks in advance!

[lofty tartan]

One TR setter and it's Lunala. Easily disrupted.

No Follow Me on Smeargle to help prevent disruption

I don't like hard Trick Room Kyogre.

[near crag]

Wym?

[near crag]

Why?

[bold geode]

1. Imprison Grimm for no reason
2. Cuz it doesn't look like Hard TR
3. Only one TR setter
4. No Follow Me Smeargle
5. Ghost Hands
6. The Grimm shouldn't be max HP max Atk

[lofty tartan]

I just don't like it. It's easier and more synergistic to pair Kyogre with other things that work well in rain and you have nothing that benefits from it except Kyogre

[near crag]

The smeargle has tr, but wym it doesnt look like htr?

[lofty tartan]

The Smeargle doesn't have TR

I did miss that it has Follow Me

[bold geode]

I like having TR on Kyogre teams as an option but not like the necessity that Hard TR can have with it

[lofty tartan]

Disable is... eh?

[near crag]

Wrong paste, mb

[bold geode]

The moveset is crazy

[near crag]

https://pokepast.es/81b6459dbd56b2f6

[lofty tartan]

Yeah I just think that synergizing with pokemon that benefit in rain is good, and they're mostly fast options. Having TR as an option helps prevent you from folding to TR when you're fast in general.

[near crag]

I agree Grimm's set is awkward, I just built it like that to imprison fout and imprison, but I think it should be replaced

[bold geode]

For sure
Kyogre likes TR too but like
It's more of a Tailroom guy if anything

[lofty tartan]

The SwordFish list that went to #1 on Bo3 ladder didn't have any TR. It uses mostly Amoongus/Incin for TR matches

[exotic grotto]

Does tailroom double speed?

[lofty tartan]

Tailwind doubles speed. Tailroom is a moniker for a team that has both Tailwind and Trick Room

[near crag]

My process was just wanting to use lunala and smeargle in HTR, and not wanting to use CIR. Is there a better option than kyogre?

[bold geode]

That

[exotic grotto]

Thanks!

[bold geode]

Yeah
But I've also seen my fair share of Kyogre Tailroom teams
They exist and kinda work well tbh

[lofty tartan]

I'm not saying that they don't exist or don't work lol

[bold geode]

Brother
CIR is your better option

[lofty tartan]

I'm just saying it isn't a necessary aspect.

And that I personally do not think hard trick room Kyogre is worth

[bold geode]

Yeah no it's not necessary

It's just in my mind at least more acquitted for Tailroom than Hard TR

[near crag]

I know, but there must be another good option too, right?

[lofty tartan]

Acquitted? Brother this isn't a hearing

[bold geode]

Nah not really unless you just go dogshit niche

[bold geode]

IDK A BETTER WORD MFER

[lofty tartan]

I think you mean acclimated

[bold geode]

Yeah that

[near crag]

Stuff like groudon for example, could it not work?

[bold geode]

English is hard bro

[lofty tartan]

Groudon same base speed as Kyogre and isn't slower than CIR so in a TR match you're in trouble, I think.

[bold geode]

At that point you're playing LunaDon which ain't necessarily Hard TR

Like unless you use Koraidon as a fast get rid of Dark types quick guy, there's not a better option

[lofty tartan]

I'm failing English in my old age, Monke, so don't worry about it

[foggy lodge]

If you want Kyogre TR I think you are better with tailroom

There was a Kyogre team going around in reg G with Farigiraf Ursaluna Tornadus and even drago used it so I think you can tune it for reg I or use a similar concept

[upbeat venture]

Hey lads what do we think of the flutter mane singles set? ♥️

Also let me know if taunt or psyshock is better

[bold geode]

I'd do another tera
Fire or even Fairy

[solid frigate]

fire would be better for extra stab
Fairy would boost moonblast's Damage

[near crag]

Check this out: https://pokepast.es/c9576a99e9064acc Rebuilt entirely that team from earlier, and although it has eternatus now, I do think it got significantly better. Any thoughts?

Also dropped that whole HTR idea, it really does only work with CIR.

[lofty tartan]

This looks a lot better. Eternatus is kinda neat

With scarf Chi-Yu, you could probably afford to go modest

Get a little extra damage where scarf is already putting pressure on CSR

Modest Scarf is 228

[near crag]

And for evs I just hit the bump, and max speed out?

[near crag]

ight

[lofty tartan]

So you can Modest max speed and be fine

[near crag]

Fixed, thanks!

Anything else you picked up?

[lofty tartan]

The rest seems fine to try for a first draft.

There's a thought of Cosmic Power for Eternatus over Flamethrower possibly, but 3 attack lorb is probably fine

Just insurance agaisnt CSR

95 spDef is fine

252 SpA Life Orb Eternatus Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 124 SpD Assault Vest Rillaboom: 112-133 (54.1 - 64.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Grassy Terrain recovery That's fine

220 SpA Life Orb Calyrex-Shadow Rider Psychic vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Eternatus: 242-289 (112.5 - 134.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

220 SpA Life Orb Calyrex-Shadow Rider Psychic vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Tera-Fairy Eternatus: 121-144 (56.2 - 66.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

220 SpA Life Orb Calyrex-Shadow Rider Astral Barrage vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Tera-Fairy Eternatus: 121-142 (56.2 - 66%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Barrage is the same with or without tera. Tera Dark is a thing too

220 SpA Life Orb Calyrex-Shadow Rider Draining Kiss vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Eternatus: 45-55 (20.9 - 25.5%) -- 0.15% chance to 4HKO

220 SpA Life Orb Calyrex-Shadow Rider Draining Kiss vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Eternatus: 182-218 (84.6 - 101.3%) -- 6.25% chance to OHKO

Maybe not Tera Dark 🤷

[lofty tartan]

220 SpA Life Orb Calyrex-Shadow Rider Draining Kiss vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Eternatus: 182-218 (84.6 - 101.3%) -- 6.25% chance to OHKO That seems more correct - looks like the damage calc was stuck on Tera Fairy but didn't show it in the calc 🤷

[solid frigate]

Mika i might Underestimated Kyurem White in reg I

[lofty tartan]

Oh? I mean it has high SpAtk

If it can work it does huge damage

[next stump]

wait am i misreading this

or is non tera no boost draining kiss almost OHKOing a neutral target

[lofty tartan]

I dunno. It seems off

I'm using nerd of now

[next stump]

are the levels equal?

[solid frigate]

i mean in like Pairing Potential

so far only tested with Kyogre with 2 of my friends that is not Monke and the others

[lofty tartan]

220 SpA Life Orb Calyrex-Shadow Rider Draining Kiss vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Eternatus: 45-55 (20.9 - 25.5%) -- 0.15% chance to 4HKO

I reloaded the calc itself

+2 220 SpA Life Orb Calyrex-Shadow Rider Draining Kiss vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Eternatus: 90-107 (41.8 - 49.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

Now it looks correct

It probably got confused when I was swapping Teras in and out

But you can see how the calc reads and I was just copying it

[near crag]

That is really surprising for me; only found dialga and zamazenta to work with it. What else did you find?

[solid frigate]

Zacian.

There is hope for Zacian.

problem is the partners

im going creative mode here

[lofty tartan]

I can see Zacian covering for some things Kyurem doesn't like to see

[solid frigate]

both dies to Koraidon tho

[near crag]

To hit fire types you're gonna need to commit to earth power, and not tera ice, so it's kinda hard to make it work. I see there might be something there, but it's gonna be hard af

[solid frigate]

im gonna try teambuild it and then send it to you Mika

[opal inlet]

maybe a tera fairy on one or the other

but then again tera fairy is gonna be really common so theres prolly already counterplay on the drawing boards

[lofty tartan]

I don't like tera ice Kyurem anyway - Ice is just bad defensively

[near crag]

Lowkey that might be a flutter mane thing, instead of zac

[solid frigate]

Kyurem deals with Ground types like Groudon or Landorus while having EP Coverage

Zacian can beat Opposing Dragon and Fairies

[near crag]

I agree, but then you lose the fun button

[lofty tartan]

You don't need the fun button of Blizzard. He's got 170 base spAtk and it relies on Snow which he doesn't set for himself

[opal inlet]

yea kyurem is cracked issue being ice typing

[dapper crag]

Can someone help me in pokemon legends arceus pls I'm poor

[opal inlet]

abomasnow comeback when

[near crag]

Cuz there are four ish fairy types, and while two aren't offensive, one is zac itself

[dapper crag]

The code is 45454545

Anyone pls

[lofty tartan]

#pla_discussion cause I dunno if that counts for anything else

[solid frigate]

Assault Vest Kyurem

[lofty tartan]

I wouldn't go around asking for handouts though

[opal inlet]

av kyurem-w with abomasnow comeback on everything 🗣️ 🗣️

[solid frigate]

i done something worse so it did not really phase me

[spiral ridge]

tried AV kyurem and ngl specs felt lot better

[solid frigate]

not really tho in my opinion

But Specs is a valid set

[near crag]

If you manage to deal with the crippling fire weakness, and get impavid weather control, it should work

[lofty tartan]

Kyurem is neutral to fire.

[solid frigate]

Kyurem has Earth Power

[lofty tartan]

^

[near crag]

kyurem and zac dont hit it well, and earth power wont do too much on vest

[solid frigate]

and i run AV so Blizzard Fusion Flare Earth Power and Freeze Dry for Kyogre

[dapper crag]

But nobody's online there

[near crag]

Still not us

[opal inlet]

it could be like
kyurem-w
zacian
abomasnow
chat do we bring back frosmoth

[spiral ridge]

even on bulk set for kyurem sometimes id get almost OHKOd by phys attacker

is why i didnt like AV

[solid frigate]

Alolan Ninetales-

[opal inlet]

YES

[dapper crag]

WHY PLEASE PLEASE IM BEGING U

[solid frigate]

Also no Snow

i am not running snow

[opal inlet]

but snow warning

[solid frigate]

maybe but it will be clunky

[near crag]

You might aswell ask us for cabbage, robux, or carrer advice at this point

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 38: Ninetales-Alola

Types

Ice/Fairy

Abilities

Snow Cloak, Snow Warning (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

73/67/75/81/100/109

Total

505

Base Species

Ninetales

Sableye version 4.28.2

[opal inlet]

oh it gets snow warning nvm

we’re so back

[dapper crag]

No I need to be better at pokemon legends arceus I'm sad now

[opal inlet]

BRING BACK DARMANITAN

[lofty tartan]

We can't help you here - totally the wrong channel for asking for stuff in Arceus

[dapper crag]

NO IT ISNT IF NOBODYS ONLINE

[near crag]

but really, not much we can do to help besides sending you to the right place man

[dapper crag]

Pls im begging u I will do anything

[lofty tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/easy-there-spartacus-calm-down-chill-relax-whoa-there-gif-15073839

[opal inlet]

none of us playing on cart rn sorry vro

we’re all at the drawing board

[solid frigate]

we play Cart and still wrong site

[lofty tartan]

I use Arceus to fish for shinies for VGC and that's it. Can't help ya

[left bobcat]

Haven’t played cart sinceeeeeee

Last year

[opal inlet]

i havent played cart in over a year i think

[left bobcat]

Half a year now

[opal inlet]

you know what we need to bring back for reg i

[dapper crag]

😨😰😱😢😥😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[lofty tartan]

YEs

[opal inlet]

bring back mimikyu

[left bobcat]

Mythicals

[near crag]

Sure! I will give out some of my stuff, since you've touched my heart. Just send ask for it in the right channel, and in a min I'm gonna flood you with items!

[solid frigate]

end me pls I don’t want to deal with Dozo

[dapper crag]

Yay tysm

[lofty tartan]

It's just a pokemon game as seen from the back of your friendly neighborhood Dondozo

[left bobcat]

Or bring back dark voids accuracy to 80%

[dapper crag]

U just warmed my heart

[lofty tartan]

He never leaves your side

[foggy lodge]

until he gets critted TWICE

[opal inlet]

i lowk despise smeargle for this ngl

[dapper crag]

Accept my friend request pls it's fine if not

[near crag]

I'm so happy that dozo might be falling off rn in reg i; it's beyond due time

[solid frigate]

anyways got 4/6 mons in the builder for KWZac lmao

[dapper crag]

Btw the code is 45454545

[lofty tartan]

All I care about is Legends Dondozo

[near crag]

Right channel, remember?

[opal inlet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1275901615492305017/1292778727125680149/IMG_6426.gif

[dapper crag]

Oh yah

[left bobcat]

Oh yeah

[opal inlet]

darmanitang illegal gonna crash out

[solid frigate]

its not even in the game-

[near crag]

Idk why I read that in jacksfilms voice

[dapper crag]

Yo join the channel for us

[near crag]

it is a test of patience, prove your worth!

[dapper crag]

Ok

[left bobcat]

You join Chanel for us

[dapper crag]

Ok

[left bobcat]

Yeah

[opal inlet]

ok theres only one snow dropper rn but we ball

[foggy lodge]

Use CIR

[near crag]

Where is glalie bro

[opal inlet]

triple restricted no?

[foggy lodge]

But over zacian

[opal inlet]

we use zacian for type coverage and noone else for that

[foggy lodge]

To have the full monotype

[opal inlet]

TRUE

[spark delta]

for gourgeist what is the best nature for it for competitive

[near crag]

Thats why glalie, bang for your buck

[foggy lodge]

Truly the only slot on the team that could have the needed coverage

[spark delta]

i have an adamant one but i want to know if it can be used for defense

[foggy lodge]

Gourgeist is not in SV so hard to say

[spark delta]

im in sword shield

[near crag]

Check series 12 pikalytics

[spark delta]

whats that

[dapper crag]

I'm sorry for being impatient I just am really excited

[near crag]

Series 12 is the last swsh format, and pikalytics is the site that shows that stuff

[solid frigate]

the team is done

Like I literally just throw the creative mode into the Teambuilder and call it a day

[near crag]

Give us a peek

[spark delta]

thanks cane ooh the ev spreads show the percentages of natures people use

[lost sun]

what would be the best monotype team

[solid frigate]

Water

[dapper crag]

I'm sooo excited!!!! Sorry to the right channel

[solid frigate]

bias aside

[near crag]

Prob dragon, but nothing reeeeally works

[solid frigate]

Yes its still water

[near crag]

Ig bc of rain, but water, dragon and ghost are really the only contenders

[lost sun]

smth like kyogre palkia gastrodon dondozo tatsugiri and shifu

[near crag]

Gastrodon is kinda unneeded, prob pelipper, or basculegion

[lost sun]

pelipper would only be used for wide guard tho

[near crag]

Guarranteed rain too

[lost sun]

kyogre

[solid frigate]

me who my first team is 3/6 Water 3/6 Grass:

i'm fine with rerunnning Reg H soley run this team

[opal inlet]

https://pokepast.es/30433e2bff9ad7c6 my monster mono ice team

[opal inlet]

goated sylveon pick

[solid frigate]

you aren't the mono ice beliver i know lol

[near crag]

I'll never forget the legendary dragonite, lucario, krookodile, primape, charizard, and the goat rotom frost

[opal inlet]

and i never will be

https://tenor.com/view/batman-animated-series-bruce-wayne-cartoon-gif-4157978

[near crag]

Where is glalie tho??? Still not over that

[lost sun]

that 1 team Wolfe used with gweezing and toedscruel

[opal inlet]

what the fuck are these stats 😭

[foggy lodge]

The only team I half liked in reg H was Metagross lol

[lost sun]

80s

[near crag]

Goated?

[lost sun]

where do people find out the bst of Pokémon before they're on a website like serebii or pokemondb

[opal inlet]

😭 ?

[near crag]

The game files

[near crag]

I will let you cook whatever you want, because it is the right pan

[opal inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/deer-coffee-machine-deer-my-deer-friend-nokotan-gif-40057862468207753

[dapper crag]

I'm sorry for not being patient pls hurry up tho pls

No afence

Bro?

Sorry for the impatients

[near crag]

It's gonna need to wait until tomorrow morning, my batteries ran out. How about I give you 22 lv100 shiny alphas, and an extra arceus then?

[dapper crag]

Ok

Ty friend me on discord before u go to bed

Yo

[near crag]

My acc is glitched, but ill give it my very best, and that you can trust! but seriously, right channel

[dapper crag]

Ok

[next stump]

dude I know that you're probably a kid but you are coming across as super desperate AND you're in the wrong channel

so stop messaging here or you're getting muted

[dapper crag]

Bro stop im going ok

Ims sorry I just wanna talk to my new friend

[lofty tartan]

I tried to help direct them 🤷

[near crag]

Anyways, thoughts on this https://pokepast.es/c6b5e16b6b5b146c ?

[dapper crag]

EVERYONE EXEPT CENELA STOP

[near crag]

I was doing just that, but having fun meanwhile

[lofty tartan]

I like Ho-Oh and sun but Annihilape seems like pushing it

[dapper crag]

What are u talking to me

[lofty tartan]

Yeaaaaaaaah but if you're just stringing them along that's not okay either 👀

[near crag]

Nah, youre right.

[dapper crag]

Is that party mine tomorrow

[near crag]

Annihilape is cool for getting rid of anti weather

[lofty tartan]

But CSR 😓

[near crag]

? It's scarfed

[bold geode]

What
The fuck did I miss

[dapper crag]

Yo is that party mine tomorrow tho this will be the last text I promise

[lofty tartan]

Yeah it outspeeds but having to Tera if your gameplan falls out the window 100% of the time is sketchy. I'm just not 100% on it. Could work though

[bold geode]

Take it to Discord DMs plz

[lofty tartan]

I like Ho-Oh into CSR

[near crag]

It was funny for a while, then got annoying

[lofty tartan]

Ho-Oh big boi

[bold geode]

Birb

[near crag]

Recover also just seals some matches too, really nice

[bold geode]

Bird

Wtf

AYO ROTOM BIRD

@gentle crag BIRD

Bruh

[lofty tartan]

We did some calcs with Ho-Oh recently but they also consider Grassy Terrain post-Tera from Rilla

I can send you it if you want though

[near crag]

Sure!

[lofty tartan]

Ho-Oh @ Clear Amulet
Ability: Regenerator
Level: 50
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 212 HP / 156 Atk / 116 Def / 4 SpD / 20 Spe
Adamant Nature
Sacred Fire
Brave Bird
Tailwind
Protect

Outspeeds Caly-S in tailwind

156 attack is bump

[solid frigate]

funni

[lofty tartan]

Nah man Lunala/HoOh is real

[solid frigate]

[lofty tartan]

What? It's good into CSR/Zama and not dead into other teams

[solid frigate]

ik ik

i just like kek

[lofty tartan]

[near crag]

The only mon on fraud watch for me is koraidon

in reg i

[vital veldt]

What is the def investment for? Anything specific?

[solid frigate]

you're joking.

[bold geode]

Are you for real dude?

[near crag]

I know it's strong dont get me wrong

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/get-a-load-of-this-gif-2218387369813418815

Fuck it's pointing at me, that didn't work

[solid frigate]

flambe this guy

[bold geode]

Anyways
Koraidon
Nope
Not a fraud by any means

[near crag]

But something is off, and I'm gonna prove it

[solid frigate]

not even close to a fraud

[bold geode]

Have fun with that

Imma stick in my cloud of realism

Anyways so I got this Rayquaza Terapagos team

[lofty tartan]

Just covers where he's weaker - we're still calcing the team

[solid frigate]

didn't you make that idea way before reg I even existed-

[near crag]

Fr now I'm just fkn around. Who I actually think is overhyped is pagos

[bold geode]

No

[near crag]

And just a bit, bc it dos undeniably work

[solid frigate]

i don't think its overhyped

Its more like underrated-

[lost sun]

hmo

[near crag]

Cuz once it started everyone trashed it way too much, and people noticed it, so shot it up every tierlist

[lost sun]

cosmog reg g team

[near crag]

Perish trap

[bold geode]

......

[near crag]

It obviously sucks, but is the only thing it could ever possibly do

[solid frigate]

Monke just tell me wheni can come back here

I don't wanna deal with it

[bold geode]

No no
You're stuck here with me

Get back here

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/hsr-dan-heng-peace-gif-3733285196809980875

IL peace

[bold geode]

Nah bitch get back here

My phone is on 5% and that comment made me consider letting it die

[near crag]

Cosmog perish trap should be haunting, it's the sole point

Its made for you to dream about it after you three turn beat the team

[bold geode]

Do I have sleep paralysis?

[near crag]

Possibly

[bold geode]

Imma
Imma go do shit
Behave plz chat

[near crag]

Night

[vital veldt]

i went and started messing with this team on showdown and i gotta say - it's SUPER fun! for me personally i took the scarf off of ape as i was always leading it with whim and thus always had the tw option, but i imagine you have a good reason for having it there. still, mega fun team

[astral kelp]

First irl tournament done!

I went 5/8 record plus a bye

Set wise I got fucking annihilated tho all the games were soooo close

Lorb comfey was a fucking beast tho

One of the games came down to a 5050 prediction

[languid ocean]

thats pretty good

[astral kelp]

ty :D

[gentle crag]

k4x1 has given 1 Gen Rep to yuchaaa

[astral kelp]

next one is gonna be reg i in 2 weeks

so im gonna bring this

btw do you guys think brute bonnet is better than amoongus?

dealing with csr lunala seems kinda crazy highkey

also its tankeir than amoongus

and the ability is less important than regenerator

its faster than cir tho thats the one thing

since amoongus is mostly there for trick room

hell i can even run taunt on it

[azure ether]

PsySpam CSR won Philippines Nationals

[heady onyx]

isn't pagos the king of positioning ?

[astral kelp]

wait stonjourney got kind of a huge finish gahdahm

[astral kelp]

huh wtf\

[shadow wind]

Rest in peace Ho oh

That crit may have mattered

[cyan smelt]

walking wake is fun

[shadow wind]

I'm thinking of mons for the GC so I need the Bo1 merchants

Trying Groudon Zacian cause it seems fun

Beat Ho oh Koraidon which I thought was going to be my single worst MU

[astral kelp]

omg yeah GC

[shadow wind]

Dang Koraidon out of sun is a whole wuss

196 Atk Tera Fire Koraidon Flare Blitz vs. 84 HP / 4 Def Tera Fairy Zacian-Crowned: 90-106 (50.5 - 59.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

I'm supposed to be scared of that damage?

[astral kelp]

ppfff wait thats like nothing

[shadow wind]

That's what I'm sayin

I guess Zacian also does have good bulk

92/115/115 is great

I just have to rely on precipice blades and play rough to hit...

Man can Ho oh Koraidon not pick up right as I'm using 2 restricteds that can't hit Ho oh and die to Koraidon

2/4 of my testing games have been against it

[astral kelp]

zacian is such a weird mon

like in paper it sounds so fucking broken

then you play it and realize that steel is kind of an ass offensive type and its best fairy type move is fuckign play rough

plus no spread moves ig

[shadow wind]

I mean steel is good offensively for one reason

It hits fairy for super effective

It would still be used if that's all it hit

Bro I'm 2/2 on Koraidon Ho ohs

Maybe I cooked with this team

First draft too

Not sure if I'm digging the specs wake set yet but I guess we'll see

I just realized I have Fairy/Dragon/Steel core and Fire/Water/Grass core

And Groudon

🛐

[graceful scaffold]

can i ask: whats a special championships??

[shadow wind]

Like a special event?

[graceful scaffold]

the current Seville one, is called special championship

[shadow wind]

Ahh I figured it out

Special championships don't have prize money

For gambling laws I believe

[graceful scaffold]

ohhhhhhhhh

thats neat thanks haha

[shadow wind]

No problem

I legit just looked it up and clicked the first reddit link I saw

Why is Terapagos CSR picking up?

[upbeat venture]

Hey lads, what do you think of my flutter mane singles set? Please let me know if I should change the Tera or if I should use taunt or psyshock ♥️

[shadow wind]

You might not get much help here, not a lot of people play singles

[upbeat venture]

They’ll still know better than me probably

I don’t think everyone would be on a doubles high horse

[shadow wind]

No I mean like no one here plays singles and would have any idea on what’s good for it