competitive_discussion

[dull ibex]

I've gathered 300 bucks so far

[mighty stump]

Ill be picking up the bundle

[dull ibex]

my parents are covering the other half for me

[dull ibex]

I might as well

oh yeah btw its my birthday that's hype

[mighty stump]

Oh happy birthday

[dull ibex]

ty ty

my friend gave me 100 dollars

[bold geode]

I probably am waiting a bit

[bold geode]

Oh God another year you lived? Gross (happy birthday bro)

[dull ibex]

thanks man

[gentle crag]

redstonejesus has given 1 Gen Rep to dollarmonke

[foggy lodge]

happy birthdayyy

[dull ibex]

tyty

[gentle crag]

You gave Gen Rep too recently. You can give Gen Rep again <t:1745512606:R>.

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-birthday-gengar-gengar-pokemon-pokemon-happy-birthday-pokemon-gif-25699218

[dull ibex]

ty

[solid frigate]

what are yyou doing-

[dense latch]

@real prairie someone is trying to steal your IP

unless this is you lol

[real prairie]

its me lol

GG

[dense latch]

wasn't expecting imprison lmao ggs

[real prairie]

Yeah, sorry prepping for Grand Challenge so not playing OTS atm

[dense latch]

that's fair

[real prairie]

no issue sharing the team here though haha just didn't realise it was you at first

https://pokepast.es/550dc023319fc6fd

are you scarf Miraidon?

[dense latch]

nah just max modest

[real prairie]

fair enough, some people run scarf with CIR

could have just outsped with Chien Pao then, oh well

couldn't play the gamble

[solid frigate]

i have PTSD over that

[real prairie]

You and me both

[foggy lodge]

Scarf Miraidon isn't that bad for this format

Scarf Terapagos🔥🔥🔥

[solid frigate]

yeah cuz my team needs TW and that also have a drawback of hiding speed tiers

[fleet valve]

Hello can someone help me build a team around greninja?

[mint void]

@solid frigate

[mint void]

What Ruleset and what Mode?

[fleet valve]

I’m not sure I just want to play PvP with out losing every match

But I want to do single

[solid frigate]

specs set and you are chilling

[mint void]

Few people here play singles idk who does. Id wait for someone else to see this they probably know someone

[fleet valve]

Is double better?

[solid frigate]

Rappa (Greninja) @ Choice Specs
Ability: Protean
Level: 50
Tera Type: Grass / Stellar
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Hydro Pump
• Grass Knot
• Dark Pulse
• Ice Beam

[mint void]

its more popular in this server but not overall. I think both have a lot of people

[bold geode]

For singles there are some Discord servers or subreddit for Smogon, I think looking into those might help at least for rn

[fleet valve]

I just see ppl with double now

Un going into a battle rn

[solid frigate]

but for Greninja doubles and Singles have the same set

Specs and you are done

[fleet valve]

And the pulled out two legends

Ok

[solid frigate]

anyways lemme play star rail at peace cuz i need a break from revision

[fleet valve]

😭

[mint void]

thats the ruleset atm

[fleet valve]

Double

but Im up one rn

Now two

[bold geode]

Blud you could've just done that

[fleet valve]

I won my first game!

[bold geode]

👍

[plain drum]

[solid frigate]

nice

[fleet valve]

One last question to you

What should be his teammates

[solid frigate]

Greninja?

CIR feels like its best restricted partner

[fleet valve]

Yes

[left bobcat]

Ice rider and greninja?

[fleet valve]

Who’s that 🫠

[left bobcat]

Weird combo but I mean if it works it works

[bold geode]

CIR would be Calyrex Ice Rider

[fleet valve]

Ok

The problem is my mons get one shotted

[solid frigate]

literally the one i used on my rental tea-

[bold geode]

Calyrex Ice Rider is a pretty bulky boy

[fleet valve]

Ok!

[solid frigate]

#rental_teams message

Not the same format but you can slot in Kyogre for Ogerpon slot

[gentle crag]

morrispxg456 (ID 758873265053106217)

[Message](#rental_teams message) in #rental_teams
No Dazzle,No Break- Calyrex Ice Rider Greninja GC Team
Paste:https://pokepast.es/3c9d3f7322d43d0d
Type:Ice Rider Tailroom Team
Rental Team:W3JHMD
VGC Regulation G 2025
Document has Matchups,Pokemon's Sets,A replay of a Bad Matchup/Crucial Turn Analysis.
Get Positive Win Ratio on This GC,able to break into 1500 in Reg G showdown Ladder
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tE-KZw_2in2tjhxOKTxojqGGHjYaDn61IhSRYJNtjcw/edit?tab=t.0

Command triggered by morrispxg456. Message from · Mar 24, 2025, 12:19 AM

[dense latch]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2349896647 okay so this game just doesn't wanna let me play fair enough

[fleet valve]

So I should use this?

[bold geode]

You still doing singles?

[mental mason]

https://pokepast.es/89e0b4de1698923b

So I was playing around with Teambuilder and came up with this? Most of the EV spreads were to deal with CIR and CSR, I believe. I mainly saw some Reg G builds and mixed and matched off of those. Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated. I know with the Reg change some of the EVs spreads would be different for different matchups.

[solid frigate]

no rain dance on torn when its a rain team makes me sad

especially is my fav restricted pair

[mental mason]

Rain Dance or Protect was my final move choice. Wanted Taunt to stop TR, Tailwind for the speed, and Bleakwind Storm for some damage. I guess I might be bettter off wit h Rain Dance there for how I like to play.

But I was thinking it could Protect to stay around longer.

[chrome knot]

switch2 preordered

@bold geode locking in cir mirai and whatever happens happens tbh bc i so tired of jumping through hoops >.<

[mighty stump]

Singapore is gonna be getting it like July-September period

ugh

[solid frigate]

just have a tr mode and you are done

heck incin and Amogus can stop TR

[fleet valve]

Guys

I can’t find this thing

[mint void]

@fleet valveelaborate

[fleet valve]

Calerex x ice

[mint void]

hot shit but remove Flareblitz from Incin

Kinda ass in a rain team

[mint void]

its in the sword and shield DLC Crowned Tundra

[bold geode]

1. I'm waiting to preorder (mainly cuz I gotta watch my money here soon possibly and I don't wanna throw hands with fuckers to get one)
2. Hey what I've been telling ya, just pick a core. The hoops were getting too many, glad we decided on something

[fleet valve]

So no one trading is I’m guessing

[mint void]

maybe but you have to trade good shit for it

[bold geode]

You can probably get a Calyrex in there, just have to offer something good for it

[fleet valve]

I have raging bolt

[mint void]

@fleet valvebtw check DMs I sent u some servers if you want to look into singles/more resources for VGC

[bold geode]

Though you still need a Glastrier, which if you have SV DLC, you can get

[bold geode]

Deadass if you have that, if you have a Gouging Fire trade that
Raging Bolt is a good Mon to keep

Anyways I'll be back
I gotta drive and it's raining so

[mint void]

Bolt is like Top10 in the verse

[mental mason]

I have come to the realization while testing it. Would you recommend Darkiest Lariat or some form of Will-o-Wisp/Taunt?

[solid frigate]

wisp knock off fake out parting shot

[mint void]

2nd

[mental mason]

I'll try both out.

Raging Bolt/Koraidon seem to give me trouble atm.

[fleet valve]

So I have the calyrex

How do I get the hourse

[mental mason]

Do you have SV DLC?

[fleet valve]

No sadly

So I have the horse now

[solid frigate]

or ask someone who does not want Glastrier

[fleet valve]

I just got one lol

[solid frigate]

aight

[fleet valve]

So how do I make it ride it…

[solid frigate]

reins of unity

you can buy it in the auction

[fleet valve]

How do I get it to spawn?

[solid frigate]

if you have it in your party

Calyrex

[fleet valve]

Where would it spawn

Or do I need to re load the game?

[solid frigate]

you mean the auction?

[fleet valve]

Yes

[solid frigate]

porto mariando right?

[fleet valve]

Yes!

[solid frigate]

it should spawn when you have calyrex on your party-

[fleet valve]

I closed the game

So ima re load it

It still didn’t spawn

Ok it spawned

Where would it be in my backpack?

[solid frigate]

key item

[fleet valve]

Ok

What moves?

[solid frigate]

@fleet valve

[fleet valve]

So I need this whole team

[solid frigate]

nah just look at the EV spread and Moves

[fleet valve]

Ok!

Who els should I add?

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/MoxieBoosted/status/1915056349312127080

Latino Nidorino (@MoxieBoosted) on X

Tailwind deniers be like "must have been a choice scarf"

X · Apr 23, 2025, 2:53 PM

[solid frigate]

items and tera type

[fleet valve]

Ok!

Should I add raging bolt?

[mint void]

its a solid mon sometimes used with CIR so sure why not

you can look at the pins in this chat

[fleet valve]

Ok

[mint void]

there is a repository/google drive link

there is a lot of teams in there that u cna use as inspiration and for EVs

[fleet valve]

Ok!

Would kyoger be good?

[left bobcat]

Tea? 🍵

[mint void]

meh. doesnt have great synergies. Can work tho

CTS Specs ogre

[left bobcat]

What doesn’t have good synergy with Kyogre?

Aside from the sun lizard and the dry crusty behemoth

[solid frigate]

Pagos?

[left bobcat]

Ironic

The turtle and the whale don’t have good synergy

Well actually that’s not ironic

[sage moat]

Is brave better on iron hands now than adamant?

[solid frigate]

depends on context imo

But both are fine

[sage moat]

Okay thank you

[forest arrow]

Yeah honestly depends on your team

[mental mason]

Been using this to low ladder success in showdown. Thinking I'll actually make it then.

Switched protect of tornadus for rain dance and flare Blitz off incin for will o wisp.

[shadow wind]

Why is Amoonguss there if you have Miraidon?

[mental mason]

For cir, but I'm finding not much of those.

[shadow wind]

Isn’t Miraidon Kyogre good into CIR naturally?

[solid frigate]

more like Kyogre covering the MU

cuz my testing is more like 50/50

[shadow wind]

I mean you can drop a Draco and that guy takes 90%

Miraidon did indeed beat CIR for worlds final

[solid frigate]

last time that happen to me it did not go well

+Other people have other restricteds.

[shadow wind]

I mean electro drift does the same damage in eterrain

[solid frigate]

it's still not a kill confirm

[shadow wind]

That doesn’t make it a bad MU

[foggy lodge]

Amoonguss doesn't work for a CIR MU

And less on a Miraidon team

[solid frigate]

but like i would not consider Mirai Ogre like a strong MU on CIR anyways

[foggy lodge]

You can just run Hands Farigiraf and it can beat CIR

[shadow wind]

That sounds ridiculous to me

Both of those mons do good into CIR

[foggy lodge]

What does CIR do against spout volt switch

Unless you have Rillaboom it can't do anything

[solid frigate]

i feel like i am judged on my OWN pair which have been tested for a month

I am not disrespecting CIR and i would not think its Auto Win

[shadow wind]

Nothings an auto win in Pokemon

[foggy lodge]

Unless you are marco vs wolfey

[shadow wind]

I just feel like you’re selling the duo extremely short

[foggy lodge]

CIR can beat it for sure

With the right mons it can

Depends on the comp

[shadow wind]

I do believe that CIR has to work hard against those 2 though, just given the tools that they typically have

[foggy lodge]

mhm

[shadow wind]

I don’t know how it would break Kyogre + boosted hands and Farig

[fleet valve]

OK IM BACK

[bold geode]

Damn it's past 6 already for me

[solid frigate]

@rustic mountain @lofty tartan i did it-

Finally i can rest

the team slaps

[balmy glen]

I will be using meta 6 Zama csr next weekend and working on the meta from there

Should be fun it’s such a skill diff team tho

[foggy lodge]

Zeen's Zama CSR?

[balmy glen]

Yuh

Small adjustments to his spreads and moves tho

[foggy lodge]

Yeah sounds fine

You didn't like the Amoonguss variant?

[balmy glen]

Was testing it

[foggy lodge]

Hmm

[balmy glen]

I could c team Zeens team too

I found a major flaw in it tbh

[foggy lodge]

The life orb tera stellar ice shard calcs are gross

[foggy lodge]

Huh

Yeah you could fix it

I also feel like the team is not completely optimized

[lofty tartan]

Congrats

[near crag]

Y'all think Zapdos (kanto or galar) could ever be viable in reg i? With base form zapdos I've only thought about disquake strats, or bulky support/attacker. With Gapdos all I did was make him a scarf attacker. Both feel kinda underwhelming, but I think I'm missing something. Any thoughts abt this?

[solid frigate]

the team works but it has to be like

Nuking in turn 1-2

[chrome knot]

ngl just made csr zam that had good mu into dat

im sat on 2 good options of teams for milwaukee rn

[left bobcat]

OK

[bold geode]

Nah not really
Power creep's a bitch

[bold geode]

I thought you locked in a duo already

[foggy lodge]

csr zama or zama csr

[chrome knot]

csr zam & cir mirai

[mental mason]

https://pokepast.es/cdb439f69215a7c8

For this, I'm looking to replace Amoonguss with Ogerpon-H. Would y'all recommend switching out Incineroar too or would he still be better for some matchups?

[solid frigate]

hearthflame

On Kyogre team?

[mental mason]

Would the stone one be better than?

[solid frigate]

rock is the only one

that would work

[mental mason]

[lost sun]

this the same as my reg g team but landorus instead of mirai

[near crag]

It's generally worse, but teal mask ogerpon can work in some niche scenarios. The fact you can use any item makes gives it a lot more freedom

[solid frigate]

nah

able to Bonk Hearthflame,Tornadus and CIR is funny

[near crag]

Can it choice band tho?

[solid frigate]

nah but it still kills 2 of them

does Teal kill either?

[near crag]

Maybe, can't say I did the calcs

[solid frigate]

no way it kills hearth

[near crag]

Hearth sure, but leaves CIR vulnerable to a sneeze

[solid frigate]

252+ Atk Choice Band Ogerpon Ivy Cudgel vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tornadus: 89-105 (57.7 - 68.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[lofty tartan]

Choice Band Ogerpon O.o

[solid frigate]

LMFAO TORN GO BRRRR

252+ Atk Choice Band Ogerpon Ivy Cudgel vs. 212 HP / 4 Def Calyrex-Ice: 93-111 (46 - 54.9%) -- 61.3% chance to 2HKO
252+ Atk Cornerstone Mask Ogerpon-Cornerstone Ivy Cudgel vs. 212 HP / 4 Def Calyrex-Ice: 152-180 (75.2 - 89.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

my point stands

also Teal Pon can't went for hybrid offense support anyway

[lofty tartan]

Ogerpon being the only grass type with Follow Me is quite huge.

I can't imagine Choicing the thing

[left bobcat]

Yeah it’s MASSIVE

[solid frigate]

but we talking about Pure Grass Pon

Not Rock or Water or Fire Pon

[lofty tartan]

No, I'm aware.

[left bobcat]

rock, water, fire, but where is air pon?

[solid frigate]

Grass Flying Coverage Ogerpon sounds funny

[near crag]

Scope lens make ivy cudgel crit always

[solid frigate]

Aerialite Mask Ogerpon

[lofty tartan]

It's okay

[near crag]

its funny, man

[left bobcat]

1 ice shard is all it takes

[solid frigate]

its funny when the idea is present by me

[left bobcat]

And me

[solid frigate]

/j

but like we are presenting an Idea to a person who needs advice and Teal Mask Pon has no noticable EV Spread+ i rather threaten tornadus and Tera Fire Koraidon

[left bobcat]

FIYAHHHHHH

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/starfox-melee-faiah-dash-dance-gif-13867212

[near crag]

Something I need to give you is teal mask could only work with a player that is not only experienced, but knows specifically what he wants in a team, something that wouldn't apply in this case

[solid frigate]

@lofty tartan Foul Play P2 is funny

[solid frigate]

which for that person,isn't skilled at all

like its not regional level anyway

[left bobcat]

Damn shots fired

[near crag]

All the while I'm just stalling to build my terrakion team

[left bobcat]

Terrakion? BAHHHHHH

[near crag]

The shiny looks nice, and I've done all the serious for the week

[left bobcat]

Hmmm I would’ve said lettuce see where this “serious” lands but I can’t play anymore

[solid frigate]

i'm being genuine here,if you can't do it then try different ways to make the team work,not just tunneling on a gimmick and expect to work

and if the gimmick works then sure i can close one eye,but in this state i would not accept this unless if beats competition

[left bobcat]

YOU VS ME NOW! but unfortunately not

I don’t think I’ve played a single person in this server I was pretty dominant in the old server

[solid frigate]

and with Teal pon on Hearthflame spot in a Miraidon Kyogre team as an example

Its not valid to run a worse version of Ogerpon which MiraiOgre does not need a Grass type Attacker anyway,the reason that cornerstone works cuz it does that+does a good job of being redirector

[lofty tartan]

You're acting like this is super secret tech that no one knows about. Hopes and dreams don't make a mon more or less viable.

[left bobcat]

Damn

[left bobcat]

YEAH THIS ISNT THE ANIME YOU CANT JUST DODGE IT AND USE THE POWER OF FRIENDSHIP AND EGGWUH

[lofty tartan]

Teal Mask is the least viable of the four - the item slot is good, but the masks boost damage by 20% automatically, and the shared typings help relevancy

[foggy lodge]

The only benefit of grasspon is the defiant

[lofty tartan]

Defiant is fine, but you have to deal with Incineroar.

[left bobcat]

I remember I did sweep in reg f with teal mask but to get to it was annoying

[solid frigate]

+In context of MiraiOgre,They don''t need Grass type Pure Attacker anyway

They need redirection

[foggy lodge]

I liked the Tangs's loaded dice set

[solid frigate]

i just run Wellspring anyway

[lofty tartan]

Yeah I think redirection is being wholly underestimated here.

[foggy lodge]

It could one shot urshifu through sash which was very important for worlds

And with sash it also can be good because the speed boost of tera grass is crazy

[solid frigate]

i think i saw an Ogerpon cornerstone lived Surging Strikes but thats like a Very weird Set anyway Max HP probs

[foggy lodge]

Nah it isn't

My rockpon was calced to survive mystic water surging strikes

[solid frigate]

can i steal the spread pls

[left bobcat]

Yeah I’m like I’m sure rock pon can survive 1 surging strikes

Then again anytime I used rock pon I never got hit with a surging strikes

[foggy lodge]

252+ Atk Mystic Water Urshifu-Rapid Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 84 HP / 52 Def Ogerpon-Cornerstone on a critical hit: 138-165 (83.1 - 99.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Just dump everything else in atk and speed

Either you want the super fast rockpon or hard hitter rockpon

[solid frigate]

i think AtK is fine cuz i see Hearthflame gone bulkier now

[left bobcat]

Ah yes Hearthflame

Can obliterate anything when the conditions are right

[solid frigate]

still OHKO-2HKO rilla with low atk invest anyway

[left bobcat]

Tera fire, sword of ruin, sun boosted, plus 1 attack boosted ivy cudgel

[foggy lodge]

im gonna weezing you

[left bobcat]

Well I would know how to avoid the situation

[solid frigate]

+1 76+ Atk Hearthflame Mask Tera Fire Ogerpon-Hearthflame-Tera Ivy Cudgel vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Neutralizing Gas Weezing-Galar: 120-142 (69.7 - 82.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Thats still pretty good

[left bobcat]

Of course there’s gonna be something to counter

[foggy lodge]

now eliminate that +1

[left bobcat]

Thats why I said it can obliterate anything WHEN the conditions are right

There were a few times I couldn’t pull it off

…

[fleet valve]

Who can help me finish my team

[left bobcat]

Who?

Hmmmmm

Torrent, torrent is the best at team building

Bro can make mewtwo work

[fleet valve]

Yea they helped me a bit

I just need two more mons

And I don’t want to bother them any more

[left bobcat]

Hmmm lettuce see what you’re working with

[fleet valve]

Ok

It won’t let me send a imagine

[left bobcat]

Damn

[solid frigate]

bro i never built Mewtwo-

[left bobcat]

Yes you did remember that one time

[solid frigate]

nah i didn't

Thats just Shadow Rider

or Lunala

[left bobcat]

Sure buddy

[left bobcat]

Don’t we have that rule that you can’t send pictures if ur not like level 10 or sum

[solid frigate]

level 6

[fleet valve]

I’m like level 1 😭

[left bobcat]

Damn

[lofty tartan]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/teambuilder

Use this, add things to the team, set stats and abilities/moves/items, then send us a pokepaste

[left bobcat]

Just start yapping and you’ll level up

[lofty tartan]

This button when viewing a team

Ahhh my Toronto team https://pokepast.es/31df9eddb6b4872c

[left bobcat]

Oh yeah

[lofty tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/ren-and-stimpy-memories-gif-20083366

[left bobcat]

Oh Toronto eyy man

[solid frigate]

Sandbirb

the team name should be sandbirb

[lofty tartan]

It was a good team, but honestly, if I could change anything about it, I'd have dropped Ttar, even though he's my best boi

[left bobcat]

Yahhh fam

[lofty tartan]

Just wasn't as useful in the end.

[solid frigate]

ttar is the Goat

Despite i am running rain-

[left bobcat]

uh what

Oh wait nvm

Man my brain is fried from this week

[lofty tartan]

Yeah my week has been pretty draining too 😐

I had to skip workouts this week because I've been just so busy. Hate it.

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/c01da5d52228c095

Probably what i would run if i am in a Reg H regional

[lofty tartan]

Honestly I would've run Delphox at Toronto if I hadn't been a coward and went with my audible

[solid frigate]

yeah we seen Delphox got some play so makes sense

[lofty tartan]

Teams were really similar and Delphox would've had more use over TTar.

Though I did see a LOT of Indeedee-M at Toronto

[solid frigate]

Sylveon is extremely underrated in reg H despite feels interesting

[lofty tartan]

Crowning achievement was getting two different TR players to turn off their own TR for me through scare tactics

[solid frigate]

i still laugh of that one match where Nils Dunlop's Corv got frozen and stare at the camera

[lofty tartan]

Honestly Sylveon struggled hard in Reg H because of Sneasler

[solid frigate]

if there is no sneasler then Sylveon would still be Anti Meta at best imo

[lofty tartan]

Every Sylveon I saw was just a speed bump

[lofty tartan]

Eh I mean in a Sneasler-less world in early Regulations, Sylveon could pull weight. Tera Fire Tera Blast Yawn Sylveon went pretty hard

[solid frigate]

I think i run Just Hyper Voice Tera Fire Blast and Quick Attack

[left bobcat]

TERA WATERRRRR

[solid frigate]

QA just to clean up the mess

[left bobcat]

SPLASH 💦

[solid frigate]

isn't that a normal move

[left bobcat]

Oh that’s right splash is an actual move

I chose Tera water for my sylveon because it matches with their shiny

[solid frigate]

i choose fire then later fighting just for fun

[left bobcat]

Huuuuuuuh it’s been a long week

Math final was easy considering how poorly I performed this semester than last semester

[foggy lodge]

Erizabeth rain is crazy tho

[solid frigate]

true

honestly i just love rain in general

[foggy lodge]

Also kim poke sun

Tho marco was probably the only person who had success with it at high level

https://pokepast.es/a33eea15286172e0

tbh I could probably use it rn if reg H was active but I was too afraid of missing moves

[rustic mountain]

nice man

[rustic mountain]

marco is also marco

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/math-meme-math-is-math-meme-mr-incredible-the-incredibles-the-incredibles2-gif-20591317

[rustic mountain]

yea hes just too good, i think its punching above its weight class cuz a player of that lvl is using it

[solid frigate]

last minute Decision to run Foul Play P2 cuz i just realised it learn that for some reason

[rustic mountain]

over wat

[solid frigate]

Tera blast-

[rustic mountain]

yea tera blast prolly negligible damage in this kinda format

[solid frigate]

tera ghost is still here but like

I don't want to die to CSR immediately

after using tera blast

[rustic mountain]

so like tr/recover/foul play and wat else

[solid frigate]

ice beam

[forest arrow]

I think he has ice beam

[rustic mountain]

for?

[solid frigate]

does Solid damage to Miraidon and Koraidon

[rustic mountain]

pre tera only, i feel ur better off tera blast in the 4th slot, its nice having stab

cant imagine beam is pushing the envelope in those mus by much

[solid frigate]

44 SpA Porygon2 Ice Beam vs. 44 HP / 4 SpD Miraidon: 68-80 (37.5 - 44.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

still does decent Chunk imo-

But Blast could work fine

[forest arrow]

Yeah STAB would be nice

I was gonna say tri attack lol

[rustic mountain]

i feel this just doesnt justify its use especially since mirai and korai tera a lot

[forest arrow]

Tera blast definitely

[solid frigate]

i mean there is always Tera blast but still use Tera Ghost Blast or what tera?

and i can already hear people telling me to use the giraffe right-

[rustic mountain]

use w/e tera u feel is sufficient but its mainly for w/o tera u have a move u can click thats stab still

[forest arrow]

coughs

Nahhh I won’t do it

lol

[rustic mountain]

i mean ive told u im low on p2 this format

[solid frigate]

stellar P2

Nah probably stick to Ghost or Fighting

[dense latch]

woo

bo3 is so much nicer

[solid frigate]

+1 44 SpA Tera Fighting Porygon2 Tera Blast (80 BP) vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Terapagos-Stellar: 138-164 (58.4 - 69.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

i mean-

[rustic mountain]

pog

[solid frigate]

under TR

[rustic mountain]

yea prolly one of those depending wat u think is more consistent

[dense latch]

my only loss was to seawolfmikes' miraidon team i need a better line into that

[rustic mountain]

fair

its a good team

[solid frigate]

ghost would be fine like immune to FO and body press but fighting gives me another way to beat terapagos and Zamazenta

+1 44 SpA Tera Fighting Porygon2 Tera Blast (80 BP) vs. 100 HP / 84 SpD Zamazenta-Crowned: 104-126 (57.7 - 70%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

like that still did a lot of damage all things consider for a p2

[rustic mountain]

i just wouldnt consider it as a mon u should be teraing much tbh

not reg h anymore

[solid frigate]

thats why i dropped tera blast-

unless you want me to run Tri Attack

[rustic mountain]

Tera Blast deals damage. If the user's Attack stat is higher than its Special Attack stat, Tera Blast becomes a physical move when Terastallized; otherwise, it remains a special move. -bulbapedia

as i said b4 u dont need to tera for tera blast to be good for p2

[solid frigate]

i mean if you say so

I'm going back to Tera Ghost for just Body Press

[rustic mountain]

not really if i say so, thats how the move works

[solid frigate]

i know lmao

i just need ghost tera for defense

[rustic mountain]

seems reasonable

[solid frigate]

Brocookedhim (Porygon2) @ Eviolite
Ability: Download
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 100 Def / 44 SpA / 108 SpD
Sassy Nature

• Foul Play
• Tera Blast
• Trick Room
• Recover

[rustic mountain]

seems fine

[solid frigate]

also yes Purposely EV'd to be faster than my Iron Hands

[lofty tartan]

👀

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/dan-heng-il-imbibitor-lunae-imbibitor-lunae-dhil-gif-14131620448711189449

watch yo head

[lofty tartan]

Joke's on you I don't have a head

[solid frigate]

headless Mika oh god lmao

[lost sun]

I got 2

[lofty tartan]

Gross

[solid frigate]

ew

[lost sun]

head and forehead

dirty mfs

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/honkai-star-rail-dan-heng-gif-10008267026330058903

[chrome knot]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/GosSTp6WkAASa1i.gif

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/technoblade-gif-19759013

[chrome knot]

what

[solid frigate]

you ok?

[spiral ridge]

She likes bunnies

[bold geode]

Hello chat we behavin

[lofty tartan]

No.

[bold geode]

PUT HIM ON THE CROSS NOW

CRUCIFY THIS MAN

[bold geode]

Doesn't Sassy have a - speed?

Yeah bro tf you doin

[lofty tartan]

Being sassy

[solid frigate]

tru

[bold geode]

The duck wants to talk shit

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-revenge-tasty-johnnyduck-gif-18410951520284892563

[bold geode]

Me AF just cuz I'm into fat shit

[lofty tartan]

Lazy

😮

[bold geode]

WOW

[lofty tartan]

Been doing any lifting lately?

[bold geode]

A lil
Not as much as I should though
I'll admit it this time I was just slackin

[lofty tartan]

Dunked

[bold geode]

Also been trying to catch up on sleep after 2-3 weeks of barely getting any due to being up at night with my sick mother

[lofty tartan]

I've been busy at the times I normally set for working out this week so I had to skip. It's upper body after work though

[bold geode]

Literally just shit sleep every other night if not every for that long a period

[lofty tartan]

Yeah that makes it tough. Sleep is important

[bold geode]

This leave I took from work hasn't been eventful as far as her though, she's been doing better so it's basically been a vacay for me that honestly I really needed

We've just been watching what we eat and have been trying not to get anxiety up cuz her anxiety has a roll in it

[shadow wind]

@rustic mountain I think I manifested it

[bold geode]

Also call me a dumbass but my idiot self didn't know that you could take Xanax not illegally

[lofty tartan]

Wha...what?

[bold geode]

Idk why it just never clicked

[lofty tartan]

The illegal part is that it's a prescription medication being abused

[bold geode]

Though I did also learn apparently medical fields do use fentanyl as well

[lofty tartan]

Yes

[bold geode]

The fentanyl was more surprising thankfully

[chrome knot]

femtanyl

[bold geode]

Idk why Xanax was in there but yeah

[bold geode]

Are drugs woke now?

[chrome knot]

https://open.spotify.com/artist/53e9n1LucuH3guikmtv180?si=06mlO3CzRDiKqiOXJmed3w

[bold geode]

Disclaimer: drugs are not 100% ok

[bold geode]

Wait is that a fucking music artist

@chrome knot girlie what is this bs and why do I not hate it

[chrome knot]

LOL

ily monke

[bold geode]

Ily too

[spiral ridge]

Her music is good
And now I’m wondering why this girl never sent me this artist

Just hyper pop I believe if you want more

[lofty tartan]

[bold geode]

Idk
I just have a huge ass lofi playlist

[spiral ridge]

Hyperpop is great

[bold geode]

Well I have other playlists but I need to clean em out and add more shit to em

[lofty tartan]

I'm just gonna keep my music choices on the DL

[bold geode]

Whatchu listen to bruh

[spiral ridge]

Good job doing that now you need to say

[bold geode]

Yeah now you gotta share

[spiral ridge]

Contractually obligated

[bold geode]

Actually
I bet Mika listens to Johnny Cash

[spiral ridge]

I’m gonna assume 80s rock or jazz

[craggy dagger]

MONKE

[bold geode]

WHAT BESTIE

[craggy dagger]

hi!

[lofty tartan]

I listen to a lot of different genres

[spiral ridge]

Same!

[bold geode]

[spiral ridge]

I have some country but most I just forgot to add to my playlist

[bold geode]

HAI BESTIE

[spiral ridge]

I think I have all main genres though basically

[bold geode]

Me too honestly
I mainly have the lofi playlist for when I sleep

[spiral ridge]

I listen to my general playlist to sleep lol

[craggy dagger]

do you have a cure for sadness-

[spiral ridge]

I’ve fallen asleep to kissing the shadows by children of bodom 😭

[lofty tartan]

It's a little too varied to casually explain but also I hate country and that's what plays over the speakers at work

[chrome knot]

guilty pleasure artist

[bold geode]

Food

[spiral ridge]

Shoulda let me in on the guilt >:(

[bold geode]

Bro falls asleep to Ozzy Osbourne for sure

[chrome knot]

stress ladder + femtanyl

[spiral ridge]

lol real.
Also it’s almost always that country is the one exception to I listen to most stuff it’s funny

[spiral ridge]

I have it’s in my playlist

[lofty tartan]

But I was born in the 80s and do listen to some 80s rock, and jazz. Just that's like a really small piece xD

[bold geode]

God my mind still read that as the other thing

[lofty tartan]

I listen to like really heavy electronic music when working out

[craggy dagger]

anything else

[bold geode]

You think my fat ass has anything else? Throw on some Tom Segura or some shit idfk

[lofty tartan]

I like a lot of post hardcore stuff too

[craggy dagger]

yknow what
that’s valid
i’ll go find some snacks to eat

[bold geode]

Can you share?

[spiral ridge]

Chocolate time :3

Who wants digestives

[lofty tartan]

Sounds so awkward

[bold geode]

I don't want your laxatives mfer

[spiral ridge]

God damn Americans one moment

[chrome knot]

giving out hrt for halloween

[bold geode]

Honestly @craggy dagger there ya go
If you're sad, just know you're not this Scotty fucker

[spiral ridge]

You go girl

[lofty tartan]

What a terrible name to give a snack

[bold geode]

Emma gonna be at the door like

[chrome knot]

LOL

[bold geode]

What in the old man fuck

[spiral ridge]

They’re to dip in tea and shit so I think the name is just like as something for tea time 😭

[spiral ridge]

Not old people shit at all

[bold geode]

You're dipping your food in shit? Nasty ass

[spiral ridge]

They’re buttery biscuits with chocolate on top

Fuck this I’m summoning a full British
@river magnet

[bold geode]

They look like fuckin Dollar Tree Nutty Buddys bro

[spiral ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/with-this-treasure-i-summon-gif-13157585410586563450

[spiral ridge]

They’re fucking amazing

[bold geode]

Nah sit yo bitch ass down Mahoraga

[spiral ridge]

Don’t knock em til you have them they’re everywhere in England 😭

[lofty tartan]

Monke dipping food in tea is actually great. Don't be uncultured

[bold geode]

Where shit is bland and you have beans on toast? Nah fam

[spiral ridge]

THANK YOU

[bold geode]

Yeah the tea wasn't bad
But he said tea AND shit

[spiral ridge]

It’s a snack for TEA you think we’re fucking that up?

[bold geode]

He's dipping it in shit Mika, that's gross

[bold geode]

True
Tea is British fentanyl

[lofty tartan]

I'm a self-respecting tea-loving American.

[spiral ridge]

Same

[chrome knot]

hooollyyy shit @spiral ridge do i make milwaukee nickname theme reactor ??

[spiral ridge]

Lot-of-these-in-that-message

[spiral ridge]

Theme reactor?

Ohhh

I see the album
Do it :3

I was just shuffling artist idk song names yet

[chrome knot]

i prob couldnt do chaser bc some of the names lmao

[spiral ridge]

It feels like an artist I would play during like ultra kill or hotline Miami

[spiral ridge]

Yeah some names are teehee

[chrome knot]

6 tracks and one of them is murder every 1 u know!!

prob shouldn’t name a pokemon that !

[craggy dagger]

sure-
i found a couple pockey packs and an apple

[spiral ridge]

Hell yeah

Love pockey enjoy love

[chrome knot]

pockey yummy

[spiral ridge]

Mhm mhm

[chrome knot]

strawberry >>>>>

[spiral ridge]

Eh murkrow it’s fine

[spiral ridge]

There’s strawberry ones??

[chrome knot]

mhm!!

[spiral ridge]

Can you share..

[chrome knot]

what if i named it “1 U KNOW!“ and like iykyk

[bold geode]

Strawberry Pocky is fucking good

[spiral ridge]

Do it

[chrome knot]

bc girl hell 1999 goes insane on calyrex

[bold geode]

Whoa who's a chaser

[spiral ridge]

[spiral ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/wouldnt-you-like-to-know-weather-boy-gif-15559185

[bold geode]

It's Scotty

[lofty tartan]

Got people out behind my store yelling about the snake worshippers and that they're gonna kill people.

Gonna be one of those nights

[spiral ridge]

You seen jjk?

[bold geode]

Duh

[spiral ridge]

Pull out the exorcism kit

[bold geode]

How high are they bro

[lofty tartan]

Probably pretty high

[bold geode]

Bro is hating on Harry Potter or some shit

"YOU BETTER NOT SPEAK THAT PARSELTONGUE NOW BOY"

[spiral ridge]

HAHAH

[spiral ridge]

Dude please just throw a slinky snake out a two story window so it’s like it came from the sky

[bold geode]

LMFAO

[lofty tartan]

They're basically squatters living in a back corner of a parking lot to a huge shopping plaza

[bold geode]

No just roll one of those fuckin prank cans of snakes at em like the Campbell soup commercial

[spiral ridge]

Dude

Throw that with quarterback precision so it explodes out like a cluster grenade

[lofty tartan]

They're living in a van

Plus I'm on the clock. Lol

[spiral ridge]

Into the car

Well that’s why it would be quarterback throw gotta hit it while still looking on the job

[shadow wind]

This is a generational throw

[mental mason]

So I know this is the third time I'm linking my team, but I had 12 EVs missing from two mons somehow.
https://pokepast.es/2980788cc207216c

So I'm 30 games in and 19-11 with it, which I think is fine for just starting out. I've misplayed/been outplayed a few times, had people throw matches they could win too, but I'm really liking how it plays. My current problem is I basically want to always take Kyogre, Miraidon, Tornadus, and Urshifu-RS. I don't know if there's any thing I'm missing with Incineroar and Amoonguss on when to play them, or if there's better mons for those slots.

[mint void]

Incin Amoonguss carry you vs CIR or rather TR teams

[spiral ridge]

Change sus to water Tera and you’ll bring it more for CIR
Also I’d kinda reccomend swapping sus torn items

Fairy is still fine tho if you wanna be immune

[mint void]

Also if your ogre isnt eved for anything specific I would love to see you go for the nature bump on your positive nature. If you have specifically EVed for sth relevant ignore.

[mental mason]

[mint void]

I think fairy is solid since it just immensely improves the Mirai mirror but the team on paper is sucky in TR which is why Id also opt for a different tera therr

[mental mason]

Which evs are you wondering about my ogerpon is currently untouched in a box.

[mint void]

Kyogre

[mental mason]

Oh. Lol.

[mint void]

I just typoed

[spiral ridge]

You could swap incin for hands
You have mirai

Would need to change kyo

[mental mason]

It was too survive hits from ursaluna, but I don't think that'll be relevant for this regulation thinking on it.

CSR has given me more trouble than CIR but I think that's mainly cause I've gotten taunt off/killed their tr mon turn 1 both times.

[spiral ridge]

If you’re struggling with ice please bring incin more

You have wisp

[mental mason]

[spiral ridge]

Plus if fire Tera urshi

Incin urshi tank ice so well

CLAM fire Tera can kinda disable incin but knock off parting can be a recovery I suppose

[bold geode]

Urshifu doesn't need to tera to tank Glacial

I wouldn't suggest Tera Fire Urshifu

[spiral ridge]

I didn’t say that lol

If CIR fire teras urshi now hits SE

Is what I meant

[mental mason]

That's how I dealt with the one that tera'd. Haven't faced them enough to get a feel for the match up tbh.

[spiral ridge]

Honestly

Mirai incin lead and you can volt switch to urshi can be safe bet

Or even swap to kyogre

You can position easily with mirai and incin and scope out what they’re gonna do T1

[lofty tartan]

Tera Fire Urshifu

[spiral ridge]

Shush I know I fucked up my wording

[mental mason]

[rustic mountain]

[mental mason]

In general, I've been leading Kyogre/Tornadus to set rain and either get taunt off or Tailwind for speed control.

[rustic mountain]

ballsy call

[spiral ridge]

I saw so many normal Tera CUR in GC
I beat all of them lmfao

Iron hands goes brrr

[lofty tartan]

Not harshing on you just the idea is wild

[shadow wind]

If they just didn't tera I lost

[rustic mountain]

lmao

[spiral ridge]

That’s a good idea too but maybe do sash torn then?

[shadow wind]

I was so far behind that game

[spiral ridge]

I know I’m playing around

[rustic mountain]

they prolly were thinkin u werent gna predict there

but yea worked out

[spiral ridge]

Prob didn’t even predict

[shadow wind]

The lack of context is apparent

Anyway

[dense latch]

fumbled 80% gxe :((

[rustic mountain]

been there

[shadow wind]

I think I'm going to do Groudon Zacian for the GC

[rustic mountain]

if u lost a few % its still possible

[spiral ridge]

Ope my bad
Message above just made it sound like luck from them doing that

[dense latch]

i'm 17-2 77% flat

[rustic mountain]

u just have to win out ur next x amount of games essentially

[lofty tartan]

I forget. When does the next GC start?

[mental mason]

My current spreads are to tank an Urshifu-RS surging strikes and an Astral barrage from CSR. If I went sash, would you suggest changing the evs too?

[shadow wind]

That's still nuts

[dense latch]

idk if i wanna keep playing best of threes this late though

[rustic mountain]

yea so if u win like 4-5 i think u should be good

i was x-2 wen i hit 80%

[astral kelp]

jesus lord reg g is so dead

anyone want to help me practice this team lol

[dense latch]

i dropped 1.7% from my last L which was pretty rough

[rustic mountain]

yea

[spiral ridge]

Registration starts may 1

[rustic mountain]

wen u have such a skewed w-l ratio every loss really hurts

[lofty tartan]

Okay good. It's Reg I

[dense latch]

good

[lofty tartan]

I'll participate in the next GC then

[dense latch]

let that format die

[spiral ridge]

Sash for glacial cus if they guess taunt they can just kill you

And Rocky helmet is kinda odd item for torn

[dense latch]

i'll still 100% take peaking at damn near 79% gxe in bo3

[lofty tartan]

Time for Lunala/Ho-Oh GC run

[dense latch]

this team is really fucking good

[spiral ridge]

What’s the team?

[lofty tartan]

Gonna make sure I match into Tree

[rustic mountain]

i was in the same spot erik, i was x-1 almost 80% lost 1 dropped like 1.5-2% and won i think 5 straight to hit the 80%

[dense latch]

https://pokepast.es/88fbb9777d5eca2f

[rustic mountain]

just try and take it a game at a time

[spiral ridge]

Ooo ok

[dense latch]

damn

[dense latch]

i will tyty

[gentle crag]

eriksp has given 1 Gen Rep to treeco.

[rustic mountain]

🫡

[spiral ridge]

Good shit damn

[rustic mountain]

csr/zama carried

[shadow wind]

I wish Groudon was consistent enough to do that

[spiral ridge]

Hell no I want at least a chance to win some Gc games 😭

[shadow wind]

Instead this idiot decides to miss pblades like he wants me to lose

[dense latch]

i think im gonna start building the team on cart

i haven't felt this comfortable with a team in a while

[rustic mountain]

he wants to match into me cuz lunala/ho oh is such a cteam for csr/zama

[spiral ridge]

I swear groudon has less accuracy than kyo i see him miss so much more lmfao

[rustic mountain]

i have to play the mu again but i think i have it figured out

[spiral ridge]

Ohh lol
Just win duh

[rustic mountain]

ofc

[lofty tartan]

You playing csr/Zama for the GC?

[rustic mountain]

if i can then definitely

[spiral ridge]

Nah but genuine could a follow me user not just let csr astral it down

[rustic mountain]

i think that sat/sun ill be busy but ill try and get games in thurs/fri

[spiral ridge]

Idk rest of team or anything

[shadow wind]

In honour of Maya I will use Zacian

[lofty tartan]

You should help me practice against the team sometime Tree

[shadow wind]

Rinya sun come to me !

[lofty tartan]

Gonna get HoOh/Lunala cooking on cart tomorrow

[rustic mountain]

its more like, lunala wide guard = annoying for csr and ho-oh and lunala wall zama pretty effectively

so its awkward

[spiral ridge]

Ahh more the defense side than the offense ic

[lofty tartan]

Yeah and I just wanna practice against someone comfortable with csr/zama

[rustic mountain]

sure, a bit tired atm but im down some other day

[spiral ridge]

Makes sense

[lofty tartan]

Yeah I'm working right now anyway

[rustic mountain]

[spiral ridge]

Alrighty gn then yall
Take care and hope the kids are good Mika

[lofty tartan]

Lol

Take it easy

[rustic mountain]

im not goin to bed, im jus too tired to play mons rn

or atleast play mons well

[spiral ridge]

No my ass is sleeping

[lofty tartan]

No doubt. We can shoot for some weekend before the 1st if that's cool

[rustic mountain]

i mean, itd really just be this upcoming wknd then

[lofty tartan]

True. My last week has been a blur

[rustic mountain]

yea i can prolly put aside some time tho for a set or 2

otherwise next week id prolly have more time available

[lofty tartan]

No doubt.

I figure it's best to get some real time in the matchup than just assume it's favorable

[rustic mountain]

agreed

[lofty tartan]

And I wanna make sure I hammer my lines out

[rustic mountain]

even for me like i theorized some ways of approaching it but still, actually have to see how that plays

[lofty tartan]

Oh for sure. We're not entirely sure of the 6 yet either

[rustic mountain]

not that i necessarily think itll be common but just to atleast know if and wen i do see it

[rustic mountain]

yea sorry i forgot the 6 i shouldve saved the replay i usually do but i was just ripping thru ladder not really thinkin on that cuz i had played a bunch already w/ it

[lofty tartan]

All good. I'm sure we can make something work

[rustic mountain]

idt the 6 they had was necessarily optimized either

[lofty tartan]

@forest arrow did a bunch of really good calc work so far

[rustic mountain]

throwdatcalc

[astral kelp]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2350241531
holy shit dude the more i play this team the more im confident on the comfey

[lofty tartan]

I think Incin/Rilla are easy partners for HoOh/Lunala

The last two are harder but we'll get there 😄

Calcs look good so far so Throw did a great job checking stuff for an intital sweep

[rustic mountain]

that seems to be a trend for this format

i had a rotating door on the last 2 slots of the csr/zama/incin/rilla core for a bit

[lofty tartan]

Lmao yeah makes sense.

[rustic mountain]

even still one of the slots ive considered swapping

[lofty tartan]

I like Cornerstone even if it shares some weaknesses

[forest arrow]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2350244642-ypviwl5oswcgn6pqkooj42joxony8ngpw

[lofty tartan]

Good for a possible HoOh mirror

[rustic mountain]

the lunala-rilla-incin-cornerstone core did well in reg g 2

scream tail and torn were the other 2 iirc

[forest arrow]

It’s felt pretty good so far

Albeit bo1

[lofty tartan]

Sick dude I'm gonna check that

[rustic mountain]

it won one of the last irl reg g tours, i think it was a special event but rios is the one who popularized it

[forest arrow]

lol new alt

[lofty tartan]

My data sucks at the shop so I hope it works lol

[forest arrow]

So far sash flutter has been pretty good into opposing sun and Mirai

[shadow wind]

Man what even works in GC’s I don’t think I’ve played Bo1 in like 5 months

[rustic mountain]

bo1 has shown it can translate to bo3, or at the very least show u have something worth investing in

and getting reps in to understand ur team on a wider scale

[forest arrow]

It’s definitely worth, Hooh and Lunala just won’t die

lol

I went in depth with calcs like making sure I got different sets of CSR in to make sure we get around most

[lofty tartan]

Scream Tail is an option

[rustic mountain]

csr is common so good to account for

[forest arrow]

Glide spam has been so pog

I feel like we’re only scared of specs, just gotta play around their redirect etc

[rustic mountain]

idk how itd b in dres

[rustic mountain]

specs isnt run as much either

mainly lorb or sash from wat ive seen

[lofty tartan]

Fair.

[lofty tartan]

Yeah I think double glide spam is a good deal here

I may have to get over my whole ordeal where I avoid showdown and get some reps myself

Excited to play the team and get back on that vgc horse

[forest arrow]

Oh yeah especially in double res

Maybe the occasional weezing dozogiri team

but they play sash right?

[forest arrow]

Flutter was a good call

I like it into korais, mirais

Forces Tera into them

[lofty tartan]

Yeah I was thinking it could patch some holes and double as an icy wind bot

[forest arrow]

most definitely I’ve been playing sash but we can also try booster

[lofty tartan]

Both seem solid. Sometimes Sash is just clutch

Ensures you land the icy

[rustic mountain]

can be either

i dont see much of that archetype much anymore

[forest arrow]

I’ haven’t really seen any either

[lofty tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/good-great-stand-up-donald-glover-gif-5236308

[rustic mountain]

dozo is weird cuz usually means u gta drop a restricted

otherwise its 2 restricteds + dozo which seems good but also seems pretty exploitable

[lofty tartan]

Very.

[foggy lodge]

double miss fuck you

my 95 accuracy moves have been missing

Way more than they should

And I don't like it

Deadass I went for like icy wind snarl and hit 1/4 targets

[lofty tartan]

🤷

I don't meme on accuracy so icy wind is fine

[lofty tartan]

That csr switch right into +1 moongeist

[foggy lodge]

I found someone running scarf miraidon with sash bundle unburden seed sneasler AND WHIMSICOTT

how much speed do you want man

[lofty tartan]

Wow.

[dense latch]

i hope their whim had cotton spore

[lofty tartan]

So like TR really shuts them down

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/CbuttyVGC/status/1915400971900830002?t=IkZi_gFfHfygMb3u-hBpiQ&s=19

Farigiraf's Strongest Soldier (@CbuttyVGC) on X

Is it a hot take to say Bloodmoon is flipping burgers in this format

X · Apr 24, 2025, 1:42 PM

[lofty tartan]

Not really

[forest arrow]

Beautiful right? I knew Pao was gonna protect their for sure, but switching hearthflame out made me smile

[lofty tartan]

Was so free

[forest arrow]

God even with our bulk that Pao did 58%

Oh it’s lorb, of course it will

[lofty tartan]

Yeah and he still survived it lol

[forest arrow]

Yeah, good phat birb

[lofty tartan]

No Clam Korai was risky there

[forest arrow]

They might have been scale shot

[lofty tartan]

That's what I thought.

Went for a CC even right? Not Collision Course?

[forest arrow]

I had flutter in the back, would’ve made that CC immune if I switched it in first

Either way that csr was getting outsped by us lol

Yeah it was close combat

[lofty tartan]

Oh for sure. Was a convincing five turn concession

[forest arrow]

Since no lorb I feel like it had to be adamant that CC did pretty good chunk surprisingly

[lofty tartan]

Like 38%

HoOh did take two pretty big neutrals

And you had a great setup for the switch afterward

[forest arrow]

From two powerhouses, and yeah we love double protect first turn please do it

[lofty tartan]

Oh wait cc was resisted

[forest arrow]

yeah it was resisted

[lofty tartan]

But still Korai hits like a truck

[forest arrow]

That’s why I was shocked

Yeah it does that’s why I think theirs was adamant

[lofty tartan]

We haven't done any Korai calcs yet have we?

I mean it seemed fine. That's a little over a regenerator switch

[forest arrow]

No I basically calced for horse on Lunala, we should still probably calc ho oh, the spread is just 2 bump, grassy terrain HP, and 20 spe to outspeed CSR
Def is just a dump

But if Lunala outspeeds CSR does ho oh need too?

[lofty tartan]

I'd say to pick up the ko on sash but we have glides

[forest arrow]

Sash on CSR?

Oh I see what you mean

Yeah we do have glides, the spread has worked alright so far, prob just need to see our calcs so we know what we live and what we don’t

GC coming up tho, excited to run this in it

[lofty tartan]

Yeah I'll be running this in GC as well for sure.

It'll be a great place to get some testing

[forest arrow]

Most definitely and possibly points 😉

I have icy wind and TWave on flutter, haven’t had a use case for TWave just yet

[lofty tartan]

Yeah if we need to we can just do icy/moonblast/shadow ball/Protect

Honestly we can even consider something wild like Valiant

I dunno lol we'll do some testing with this first six. That's good

I'm off for the weekend in 3 hours so I'm gonna do some work with the team I hope

[forest arrow]

Valiant isn’t like crazy, still gives us fairy coverage and WG

Something to think about

WG hasn’t really been a needed thing tho, is helpful tho

And I have to be asleep soon, but tomorrow after work I’ll be around

But yeah I was thinking shadow ball, or even Gleam/Taunt

[lofty tartan]

Yeah we can square this up tomorrow. I'll be around all weekend. Get some rest duder

[forest arrow]

Gn buddy

[astral kelp]

btw idk if im a big fan of covert cloak incin but is there any better options?

covert cloak lets me garantee a fake out\

[cyan smelt]

Safety goggles

[astral kelp]

This feels so cool

A real team

Okay I'm just gonna like not find a match lmao

[lofty tartan]

Late night Beginner tier so close to end of Reg

[shadow wind]

Probably no one on

[astral kelp]

i did find one dude

he was playing entretainment dedene with probospass and magnetic flux

[tiny karma]

Move: Magnetic Flux

Raises the Defense and Special Defense of Pokemon on the user's side with the Plus or Minus Abilities by 1 stage.

Type

Electric

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

20 (32)

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Authentic

Bypasses substitute.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Snatch

Affected by Snatch.

Sableye version 4.28.2

[astral kelp]

yeah it was as dumb as you think LOL

[real prairie]

This one hit a little hard this morning 😅🤣

[astral kelp]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2350332672
Wtf why did he ff istg he wins that

man im really not liking foul play psychic farigiraffe

ive lost so many games to farigiraffe being lowkey useless

any ideas @real prairie ?

like what if i run fucking twave

or maybe i just re ev it for it to be throat spray giraffe??

it sucks because sometimes in in the situation where terapagos will die to an urshifu cc or something and theres nothing i can do about it and i just lose

[real prairie]

You now understand why I recommended sash max SpAtk Farig 🤣

[astral kelp]

dude i swear its so ass sometimes 💀

psychic doing 4 damage

could you show me a set for sash max spa fari lol

[real prairie]

Indeedee is an option, as follow me can be a benefit, you can run it without Psy Terrain if you wanted and fakeout but it's very much a BO1 set

[astral kelp]

yeah indeedee is pretty out of the picture

holy shit chat is this porygon2s day to shine

THIS IS THE 3D TIME THIS EXACT THING HAS HAPPENED

cir random close combat random crit

its okay it does like a solid 30-40%

[lofty tartan]

Farigiraf isn't a sweeper.

So that's probably why it does less than you want it to

It's good for chunking stuff and being immune to Astral Barrage while blocking priority and adding insurance for TR

[astral kelp]

yeah i get that

ah idk man im confident in this team but sometimes it just feels so bad lmao

[real prairie]

One of the sash sets ive seen:

Farigiraf @ Focus Sash
Ability: Armor Tail
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Quiet Nature

• Psychic Noise
• Hyper Voice
• Protect
• Trick Room

[astral kelp]

is going 252 spd a cook

instead of hp lol

[real prairie]

not really, most if its big threats are physical attackers

[astral kelp]

or 252 def ig

cir is scary

[real prairie]

252 Def is an option, as there aren't any multi hit special attackers that will break your sash

[astral kelp]

i wonder if this one taps urshifu

[real prairie]

depends on the urshifu, you could use twin-beam if you are looking to murder Urshifu

kills sash

[cyan smelt]

Watch out for chien pao

[astral kelp]

252 SpA Farigiraf Psychic vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Urshifu-Rapid Strike: 206-246 (117 - 139.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

oh yes twin beam

252 SpA Farigiraf Twin Beam (2 hits) vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Urshifu-Rapid Strike: 184-220 (104.5 - 125%) -- guaranteed OHKO honestly

doesnt sound bad

252 SpA Farigiraf Twin Beam (2 hits) vs. 76 HP / 236 SpD Assault Vest Iron Hands: 88-108 (36.8 - 45.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

[lofty tartan]

You can one shot Ursh with Psychic with almost no investment.

[astral kelp]

252 SpA Farigiraf Twin Beam (2 hits) vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Koraidon: 124-148 (70.4 - 84%) -- guaranteed 2HKO chunks the shit out of him too

[real prairie]

Psychic is more consistent damage

but twin beam offers the niche of killing sash urshifu

[astral kelp]

60 SpA Farigiraf Psychic vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Urshifu-Rapid Strike: 176-210 (100 - 119.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO lol youright

[real prairie]

the urshifu you are worried about won't be 0 SpD

[lofty tartan]

44+ SpA Farigiraf Twin Beam (2 hits) vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Urshifu-Rapid Strike: 168-204 (95.4 - 115.9%) -- 91.41% chance to OHKO

[real prairie]

its the sash or the bulky sets you should be building for

252+ SpA Farigiraf Psychic vs. 60 HP / 196 SpD Urshifu-Rapid-Strike: 174-206 (95 - 112.5%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO

[astral kelp]

anyways comfey one taps urshifu

im not too worried about that

[real prairie]

then why are we doing this 🤣

[astral kelp]

im more worried about being able to protect terapagos hahah

[lofty tartan]

Yeah because you're talking super effective hits. It's pretty easy to KO Urshi with SE hits

Well if you're looking to protect Terapagos, banking on ko'ing Ursh with Farigiraf seems backwards

[real prairie]

probably want one of the follow me users

[astral kelp]

yeah i also need trick room

maybe i just go no psyuchic terrain indeedee tbh

i got like 2 days left

[lofty tartan]

I don't see a space for Indeedee-M in Reg I

[real prairie]

Send the team

[lofty tartan]

Just go with Psychic Surge. Terrain control is value

[real prairie]

he means female w/o surge

[astral kelp]

https://pokepast.es/2658e812be69f743

[lofty tartan]

That's even worse

[real prairie]

it has a niche in CTS

[astral kelp]

nah my team cant have psychic terrain

i have like 2 fake outs and comfey

[astral kelp]

This team is fully built in game

[lofty tartan]

Meh. CTS gimmcks can be very flash-in-the-pan and rely on your opponent playing with their pants down

Anyone wise to shenanigans knows how to stop them

[astral kelp]

It's not cts btw

[real prairie]

tbh put TR on Comfee and swap Farig for one of the Pons

[astral kelp]

Honestly yeah maybe

Tr over calm mind

[real prairie]

drop life orb for sash or lefties and actually have it as a support

[lofty tartan]

Yeah Lorb Comfey is 👎

[astral kelp]

Can't too committed to lorb comfey lol

But I could get a hearthflame in there

[lofty tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/billy-porter-tea-gif-22730399

[cyan smelt]

What's the point of lorb comfey with draining kiss, kinda defeats the purpose

[astral kelp]

3 grass team lmao

[lofty tartan]

The different values gives some offset. Healing and recoil is fine. But damage Comfey is booty cheeks

[cyan smelt]

Oh wait ig caly s runs draining kiss with lorb

[lofty tartan]

It just doesn't do enough and is probably best utilized as a support

Yeah Lorb and healing moves are totally fine. You have a variable value and a static value

Like you build for certain Lorb numbers and kiss will do more or less healing based on damage done

[astral kelp]

comfey rn is like a support

but it also heavily chunks a lot of the fighting types i struggle with

[lofty tartan]

36 SpA Comfey Draining Kiss vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Urshifu-Rapid Strike: 78-92 (44.3 - 52.2%) -- 17.97% chance to 2HKO

That's about half with no investment and no damage boosting item

Yikes max spAtk

252 SpA Comfey Draining Kiss vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Urshifu-Rapid Strike: 96-114 (54.5 - 64.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252 SpA Life Orb Comfey Draining Kiss vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Urshifu-Rapid Strike: 125-148 (71 - 84%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[astral kelp]

it kills when i tera LMAO

ive won a few games to that interaction