competitive_discussion

[astral kelp]

the idea of him in this team is full metal body and spicy extract

but ehhhh

feels really akwartd

even +2 solgaleo does like shit all damage

[solid frigate]

my main team would love to beat this team

[astral kelp]

mirai?

was it

[turbid vale]

idk if my team is good or not

can anyone help

[solid frigate]

guess the other

[astral kelp]

was is zamazenta?

i dont remember if it was zama or ogre

[glad imp]

Kyogre miraidon right?

[solid frigate]

give me a look

[astral kelp]

yeah but torrens what do you think instead of sol?

[solid frigate]

Horrible.

The only redeeming quality is to drop the WP set

[astral kelp]

i could just chuck miraidon int here

[turbid vale]

uh hold on

[astral kelp]

WP?

[solid frigate]

Weakness Policy,i seen so many people run it while i was laddering

[astral kelp]

oh ive tried it enough times to know its fucking garbage

not a single mon uses wp well

this team is basically 2 of my pet pokemon in a team

scovillain and comfey

maybe i just run lunala instead of sol?

[solid frigate]

immediately better

[turbid vale]

i dont have image perms

[astral kelp]

well yeah im well aware of how SHIT sol is

[patent marsh]

Yea gotta yap a bit before you can

[solid frigate]

Pokepaste

[astral kelp]

oh yeah when did i even get image perms i wonder

[turbid vale]

hold on ill js dm u

[turbid vale]

your hk?

[patent marsh]

It was lv5 iirc

[turbid vale]

me too wow

[solid frigate]

yea?

NO WAY.

MY PEOPLE

[turbid vale]

fr tho

[solid frigate]

im not lonely anymore lmao

[vocal plume]

I only just got them now

[turbid vale]

hold on lemme dm u

[astral kelp]

god im just looking at my team and i think i have to cut comfey

its heartbreaking

whimsycott is just so good here

[tiny karma]

Ability: Cotton Down

When this Pokemon is hit by an attack, the Speed of all other Pokemon on the field is lowered by 1 stage.

Sableye version 4.28.1

Move: Cotton Spore

Lowers the target's Speed by 2 stages.

Type

Grass

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

40 (64)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Powder

Fails against Grass-types, Overcoat, and Safety Goggles.

Reflectable

Affected by Magic Coat and Magic Bounce.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[astral kelp]

i wonder if i can get away with not running sash on scovillain

[solid frigate]

no

[chrome knot]

0:23

[solid frigate]

Suppose to be an Orange Butterfly killing someone

[chrome knot]

dubs

[tiny karma]

Zamazenta-Crowned [Fighting/Steel]

Immune

Poison

Resists (0.25x)

Bug, Rock

Resists (0.5x)

Dark, Dragon, Grass, Ice, Normal, Steel

Neutral damage

Electric, Fairy, Flying, Ghost, Psychic, Stellar, Water

Weak (2x)

Fighting, Fire, Ground

Type Notes

Steel-types cannot be Poisoned.
Steel-types take no damage from Sandstorm.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[chrome knot]

me preferably

[astral kelp]

then can i get away with not running it on chien pao

[forest arrow]

Lunala has wide guard and does it better than solg

[chrome knot]

what

[solid frigate]

kinda but meh

[astral kelp]

yeah this feels UNBELIEVEABLY shit

wont stopo me from trying tho lmfao

[sharp cobalt]

Mood

[astral kelp]

idk wtf this is

[sharp cobalt]

If I wanna run either a flower or a moth/butterfly, which one would be best? Probs Volc I think?

[astral kelp]

flowah :D

[sharp cobalt]

[solid frigate]

Volcarona would be your best case scenario

[sharp cobalt]

I forgot which website was good for usage stats. Twasnt pikalytics

[chrome knot]

why are u tera fairy play rough

[solid frigate]

Munchstats is good

[sharp cobalt]

Yeah my flower adjacent idea would be Whims

[chrome knot]

idk why im asking honestly

[sharp cobalt]

THAT ONE THANK YOU

[solid frigate]

np

[solid frigate]

Short answer:Bro try to be quirky but failed

[sharp cobalt]

Me

[chrome knot]

ion get it but sure

[solid frigate]

ok at least you use something that has potential

[sharp cobalt]

I just like flowers n stuff, and moths/butterflies

[solid frigate]

Volca and Whims are at least good

[sharp cobalt]

I give a parameter and realize I'm limited but there's some decent options

[solid frigate]

you can also ask for trading on #trading_sv

just make sure that the trade is good for both parties

[sharp cobalt]

Who wants to trade?

[solid frigate]

we don’t really allow trading in Comp chat

[sharp cobalt]

I didnt see anyone asking for a trade unless the msg was deleted

[solid frigate]

mmmmm idk I haven’t checked there for a while

[sharp cobalt]

Im kind of excited for Champions, I wonder when it'll release. Should be soon

I can just train up my shiny volc to be proper and yeet it in there

Same for my Whims

[solid frigate]

i am noy excited to fight Dynamaxed Dozogiri

[sharp cobalt]

Im tryna think of a mega I actually like that I could use but I'm blanking

[astral kelp]

that sounds hilariously unfun

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2334351169

ay i won one with whatever this shit is

[solid frigate]

Salamence is one of my personal favourite in terms of megas in VGC

[sharp cobalt]

I like Salamence cuz it has mixed options as well, and intimidate. I do have a shiny lying around

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 303: Mawile-Mega

Types

Steel/Fairy

Abilities

Huge Power

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

50/105/125/55/95/50

Total

480

Base Species

Mawile

Sableye version 4.28.1

[chrome knot]

so mid ;(

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 428: Lopunny-Mega

Types

Normal/Fighting

Abilities

Scrappy

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

65/136/94/54/96/135

Total

580

Base Species

Lopunny

Sableye version 4.28.1

[chrome knot]

holy chien pao

[solid frigate]

Lmao the speed stat

[chrome knot]

welcome to the 205s club…

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 373: Salamence-Mega

Types

Dragon/Flying

Abilities

Aerilate

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

95/145/130/120/90/120

Total

700

Base Species

Salamence

Sableye version 4.28.1

[solid frigate]

my Beloved

[astral kelp]

wait 105 atk huge power

a mega with fucking 480 bst how shit is mawile

[tiny karma]

Ability: Huge Power

This Pokemon's Attack is doubled.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[chrome knot]

ah. so 210 attack

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 303: Mawile

Types

Steel/Fairy

Abilities

Hyper Cutter, Intimidate, Sheer Force (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

50/85/85/55/55/50

Total

380

Other Formes

Mawile-Mega

Sableye version 4.28.1

[chrome knot]

oh i understand

[astral kelp]

380 bst for fully evolved pokemon 💀

with THAT STAT SPREAD

[chrome knot]

you come in with intimidate

[astral kelp]

what the fuck was game freak cooking

[solid frigate]

thats a Gen 3 mon

[chrome knot]

trick room sweeper

[solid frigate]

gamefreak only realy make Pokemon stats absolutely busted in Gen 8-9

[astral kelp]

how do people deal with trick room even

[astral kelp]

i feel like you need at least 450 to be a real pokemon lmao

[solid frigate]

Clefairy?

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 35: Clefairy

Type

Fairy

Abilities

Cute Charm, Magic Guard, Friend Guard (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

70/45/48/60/65/35

Total

323

Sableye version 4.28.1

[astral kelp]

eviolite is cheating

[solid frigate]

No no

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 235: Smeargle

Type

Normal

Abilities

Own Tempo, Technician, Moody (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

55/20/35/20/45/75

Total

250

Sableye version 4.28.1

[astral kelp]

well ofc theres exceptions

but in general

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 233: Porygon2

Type

Normal

Abilities

Trace, Download, Analytic (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

85/80/90/105/95/60

Total

515

Sableye version 4.28.1

[astral kelp]

unless you habe sdhit like sketch

[solid frigate]

oh thats higher than I thought

[astral kelp]

again eviolite is cheating smh

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 666: Vivillon

Types

Bug/Flying

Abilities

Shield Dust, Compound Eyes, Friend Guard (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

80/52/50/90/50/89

Total

411

Other Formes

Vivillon-Fancy, Vivillon-Pokeball

Sableye version 4.28.1

[astral kelp]

not a real pokemon

[solid frigate]

if that is cheating then most of the comp players are cheating

[chrome knot]

Vivillon was used in reg h

[astral kelp]

yeah we should ban them all

[solid frigate]

i have that on the team kek

[chrome knot]

i had a few balance teams with it

a9 prim chomp viv

[astral kelp]

you guys think hard tr is good this season?

[solid frigate]

I think i did Sylveon chomp Viv with ut

[astral kelp]

i wish i was around in reg h

restricted formats feel so akward

and restricting

[vocal plume]

Clefairy, Caly-Ice, Amoonguss.

[astral kelp]

oh yeah that one after you clefairy thing seemed insane

[vocal plume]

Yeah it's stupid

[solid frigate]

Brain Hands

[astral kelp]

is oranguru underrated?

instruct is a crazy ability

[vocal plume]

That's another good one

[solid frigate]

thats a move-

[astral kelp]

oh yknow what i meant

challenge someone to make something good with this lmao

[solid frigate]

Calyrex Shadow:

[near crag]

Idk if it’s allowed

[astral kelp]

why wouldnt it be

[near crag]

Bc of species clause

[astral kelp]

its a challenge isnt it

[solid frigate]

they are different species

Lunala is not NDW

[near crag]

Doesn’t it count as lunala and necrozma at the same time?

[solid frigate]

it’s just a fusion

[solid frigate]

nope

[near crag]

Ight

[astral kelp]

yea its vaslid

you can run cir and ice horsey

[near crag]

On a separate note, I’m trying to build a kyogre miraidon team, and I locked in torn and farig, but the last two slots are kinda dicey

Thought of hands and bundle, but still just doesn’t click with me

[solid frigate]

did you say my fav comp

Mirai Ogre
moon Lando
Shifu Fari

my comp currently

[near crag]

Why moon and not torn?

Reseting rain should be valuable

[astral kelp]

lets see if we can make op run out of moves hahah

[solid frigate]

Problem

I do not want anymore electric Weak

ice weak i can close one eye cuz i have Kyogre and Urshifu

[chrome knot]

glacial lance

[astral kelp]

changed to giratina instead of hohohoho

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2333957939-hhpnjfnauo4wxh8kfybfvg8brv6174jpw
@near crag

[chrome knot]

glacial lance

[solid frigate]

thats even worse-

[near crag]

Try eternatus for stall

[astral kelp]

nah im doing pressure shananigans

[solid frigate]

thats stall-

[astral kelp]

oh wait yeah i forgot he had pressure lmao

[sharp cobalt]

I see nothing wrong

[astral kelp]

literally the whole reason this team was in my mind

[solid frigate]

me with Roaring Moon Lando Lead against Eternatus

[near crag]

Eternatus has pressure, you can use spite on like flutter, and there goes 8 pp

[astral kelp]

wtf

[near crag]

Lugia can be a win con

[astral kelp]

his encore ran out turn 1 ??

[solid frigate]

thats not turn 1-

wait

og yeah pp out you can switch moves

[near crag]

You can always encore disable if you want to force struggle, instead of encore spite

[astral kelp]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2334367579-xglyjknt1cq06t0ktv7xplorsw16g45pw

dude i feel bad

[near crag]

Ya know what always makes me feel better? Pretending as if mewtwo is viable, and doing trying my hardest to make a good team out of it

[bold geode]

Think he might be all in chat

[chrome knot]

https://tenor.com/view/sponge-bob-brick-sponge-bob-square-pants-like-a-bag-of-bricks-like-a-ton-of-bricks-gif-4475886

[solid frigate]

its all or nothing

[astral kelp]

chat am i cooked

i forgot i have to run sludge wave

or bomb

[real prairie]

benefit of normal giritina vs origin?

[astral kelp]

pressure

im forced to go normal gira

[solid frigate]

first time i will root for that CSR player

[astral kelp]

yeah no he won i had to fix my team lol

KNAI

AHAHAH

[chrome knot]

its fine you wont ever have to see this if ur elo is 11xx or higher

[real prairie]

whats the use of pressure here instead of taking the extra immunity?

[astral kelp]

its funny

wait does it not stack?

[chrome knot]

troll player

[tiny karma]

Ability: Pressure

If this Pokemon is the target of an opposing Pokemon's move, that move loses one additional PP. Imprison, Snatch, and Tera Blast also lose one additional PP when used by an opposing Pokemon, but Sticky Web does not.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[chrome knot]

do you know how pressure works…?

[astral kelp]

its +1 right so it should stack

-1 for use -2 for pressure -4 for spite

[real prairie]

only stacks if its spread

[astral kelp]

that dont math

[solid frigate]

1300+

[astral kelp]

oh you have to be hit by it isee

[solid frigate]

67% GXE

[chrome knot]

okay

[solid frigate]

mirai ogee is just stupidly good

[chrome knot]

csr zam my beloved

[real prairie]

want a game?

[solid frigate]

currently going back home

[real prairie]

no rush

need to play @astral kelp too actually

[astral kelp]

oh yeah

man im rusty on that team now

-1 trick room is crazy

oh man i think my team goes TERRIBLY against yours jack

as long as i believe

[real prairie]

ready? ill play you now

[astral kelp]

idk what this guy does

[astral kelp]

oh sure im down

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 1022: Iron Boulder

Types

Rock/Psychic

Abilities

Quark Drive

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

90/120/80/68/108/124

Total

590

Sableye version 4.28.1

[real prairie]

add my alt, CBA to log out: mister.ludicolo

[tiny karma]

Iron Boulder's moveset:

Physical Moves

Aerial Ace, Body Slam, Brick Break, Bulldoze, Close Combat, Counter, Double-Edge, Earthquake, Facade, Giga Impact, Horn Attack, Iron Head, Megahorn, Mighty Cleave, Poison Jab, Psycho Cut, Quick Attack, Rock Blast, Rock Throw, Rock Tomb, Sacred Sword, Slash, Solar Blade, Stone Edge, Take Down, Throat Chop, Wild Charge, X-Scissor, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Air Slash, Hyper Beam, Meteor Beam, Psychic, Psyshock, Tera Blast

Status Moves

Agility, Electric Terrain, Endure, Iron Defense, Leer, Protect, Quick Guard, Rest, Sandstorm, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Swords Dance, Taunt

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Iron Boulder.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[astral kelp]

\

[real prairie]

has a move that hits through protect

[sharp cobalt]

It bonk

[solid frigate]

Breaks Protect.

[sharp cobalt]

[astral kelp]

whcih one?

[tiny karma]

Move: Mighty Cleave

Bypasses protection without breaking it.

Type

Rock

Category

Physical

Power

95

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

5 (8)

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

Slicing

Boosted by Sharpness.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[solid frigate]

well breaking is overstatement

But it basically like that

[astral kelp]

brui

[sharp cobalt]

IIt bonk

[astral kelp]

that crit was dirty

that was -4 iron boulder

[sharp cobalt]

[astral kelp]

no wait -3

[fiery aspen]

hey I'm trying to ev train my sylveon in sp atk and I have the power lens on, but the sp atk evs just go up by 1 does anyone know why?

[astral kelp]

one min one min

ANAHAHHA

god i love comfey

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2334388793-sgp24rrg9u8jrwbvilpgdqq3dgxhbtipw

whenever youre ready my friend

wait looking for my team

i have no idea how im gonna win this

i kinda have to calm mind into ludicolo encore

shiit

im gonna try something fuck it

[solid frigate]

imagine Miraidon won Worlds Again in this Year’s worlds

bro gonna made Xerneas Cry

[astral kelp]

so for me that game the main threat was tsarena and chien pao

[left bobcat]

U first

[astral kelp]

i kinda have no way to deal with them in my team other than fish

[real prairie]

meh, if you were a Specs set id have more problems

your need to set up makes ludicolo perfect

without rain it still outspeeds

[astral kelp]

yeah encore

the only way i could win is if i could somehow kill `tsarena

i think?

im not really good enough to think of a better way to win

[real prairie]

need to kill chien pao and ludicolo and set up

tsareena once you set up is cooked

[astral kelp]

i can win from just comfey

[turbid vale]

is parish trap or tailwind or trick room better

[astral kelp]

also i shouldve just protected chiyu there man

i didnt expect you to ACTUALLY hit it

[chrome knot]

balance

[astral kelp]

but even so me not protecting was so bad there

hm what else

[real prairie]

id have just killed it next turn anyway

shouldn't have brung the fish at all

[astral kelp]

what would you have done?

[turbid vale]

i didnt ask for balance

[real prairie]

Incin is better, you can rotate intimidates and nutralise the threat from my Pao

[astral kelp]

right ic

[solid frigate]

lemme deal with it Emma

[chrome knot]

balance

[real prairie]

even if you end up encored, you can then max out your SpDef and lower my attack

[astral kelp]

yeah first game kinda went like that

maybe i wouldve won with incin

[solid frigate]

Well depeneds what your team needs

[real prairie]

youd have had a better chance

your Incin has a good tera too to fuck me

[sharp cobalt]

Hehe Champion of the Parish

[astral kelp]

oh dude wait this was the differnet version of my team to

the one where im running sash chiyu and grass incin

[turbid vale]

im going to build a new team from scratch

[astral kelp]

i forgot i had tera grass ahhaa i trolled

is amoongus as shit a bring as i think it is there?

[chrome knot]

hes doin what to you ? 🤨

[solid frigate]

still singles or switch to doubles

[astral kelp]

maybe i couldve dealt which chein pao better by cycling amoongus and incin

[turbid vale]

im switching

[real prairie]

no decent bring, well positioned spores don't do me any favours

[astral kelp]

its interesting

[real prairie]

leading without Terapaogos for example would have screwed my game plan

but i was confident in both games you were bringing it

[astral kelp]

i play so automatically usually that when i actuallt have to stop and think about what i shouldve done

[astral kelp]

with my team what else could i do really

my 2 other offensive mons are chiyu and comfey lmfao

[solid frigate]

rn we have restricted formats,which you can use 1 restricted Pokemon(Box Art legendary) in battle and build around it(2 in Next Month)

[astral kelp]

this comfey set is sooo bad into any anti prio

[real prairie]

you have the support mons for a reason, KO or Neutralise my big threats into Terapagos and it can freely set up on me whilst i sleep etc

also wilowisp would have cooked me too

[astral kelp]

oh thats really true

i didnt really think of chien pao as a threat going into that game tbh

[chrome knot]

jack i found the flight costs to london my ass is like 35% chance going

[astral kelp]

i was mostly scared of tsareena

[solid frigate]

Emma is gonna hunt Jack down

(Probably me as well)

[real prairie]

its my only mon with SE damage into Terapagos

[solid frigate]

unless you are me

[real prairie]

See you soon babe

[solid frigate]

Who uses Miraidon

[turbid vale]

not me i bought scarlet

[astral kelp]

just get the extra koraidon and tradfe

[solid frigate]

Well like currently is Reg G which is Single restricted format

Reg I is Double restricted format

And Koraidon doesn’t sound bad

[astral kelp]

BRO. MY BED GOT HIT BY RAIN NOO

Its 3 am Im gonna cry

[solid frigate]

Kyogre calling

[astral kelp]

Bro Jack best me irl

Water spouted irl

[chrome knot]

i wanna go to experience it but, super super expensive

[real prairie]

this for next years EUIC or just a visit?

[chrome knot]

next euic

[real prairie]

which is next year no?

[solid frigate]

probably gonna join if i can have stable time on my schoolwork

just hope its not gen 10

[chrome knot]

yes

but im still going on 3 trips this season, then whatever is closeby next season

obv if kat wants to then ill save for it and go with her

[left bobcat]

I wanna be with

I wanna

[real prairie]

let me check with the Mrs, we have spare rooms so i should have no issue having you here and saving on accomodation

ill DM you about it anyway

[chrome knot]

oah okaoka

tysm that would be lovely

[real prairie]

No promises, but ill ask

[chrome knot]

obv, no worries

[solid frigate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1209607711352819802/1356974971871690993/stranger-things-fire-ezgif.com-overlay_1.gif

[real prairie]

Covert cloak Miraidon is trending and it's doing my nutt in

[solid frigate]

i think the logic is here but i just feel like it can't do too much damage

[real prairie]

Most are just trying to volt switch out into a TR Mon

It's cloak or scarf

[solid frigate]

i'm neither lmao

[real prairie]

You aren't TR though are you? Lol

[solid frigate]

well has a TR setter

but TR is not my main core

and funnily enough

its for Urshifu when its against Hyper Offense with Only TW

[real prairie]

I keep hitting 1390-99 and can't break it into 1400

[solid frigate]

same but like my team is close

[real prairie]

Same

Not that I'm gonna use it for anything 😭

[solid frigate]

I'm finr with my team currently

Roaring Moon has a lot of potential with Miraiogre

[shadow wind]

They ate that like it was nothing

[solid frigate]

W I D E F O R C E

[brazen bough]

what are the relevant req i restricteds looking to be rn

[solid frigate]

AV Groudon or is it Light Screen

[shadow wind]

AV

[solid frigate]

basically the same 8 but replace terapagos with Zacian and add Lunala

[brazen bough]

ngl

i havent played in a long ass time can you refer me to the 8

im thinking ill build a comp with miraidon and call it

[solid frigate]

Calyrexes,Kyogre,Koraidon,Groudon,Miraidon,Zamazenta,Zacian and Lunala are the main ones

[brazen bough]

oh

[solid frigate]

Pagos fell off but not ass much as i thought

[brazen bough]

so luna and calys are the combo to beat?

or what is the strongest combination of the two

[solid frigate]

uhhhh-

there is no defacto best one yet

[foggy lodge]

CIR Miraidon

[brazen bough]

yeah its only been announced for a day tbf makes sense

[solid frigate]

ya know CIR Miraidon is ass
@bold geode

[brazen bough]

how does that work tf two completely different speed modes

tailroom?

[solid frigate]

Tailroom,mostly towards volt switch out to let TR beat stuff

Miraidon here is just an Enabler

[brazen bough]

gotcha

that sounds interesting

[solid frigate]

which i don't like at all cuz thats just Hypercarry for one restricted

[brazen bough]

not very hyped about having to refarm all these legends but its cool

[foggy lodge]

Ice + electric is broken

[brazen bough]

im sure it is

it beats down most of the other typings

[solid frigate]

that did not age well during reg G

But eh

[brazen bough]

ill build a team rn

[foggy lodge]

And CIR just doesn't need TR to work so you have fast restricted as a fast mode and CIR is bulky af so it works in TR but also just tanks hits and kills the other things

[foggy lodge]

Regieleki + CIR at worlds worked as CIR + mini Miraidon

[solid frigate]

wdym by that

[brazen bough]

reg i

[solid frigate]

dunno

[brazen bough]

nvm

[left bobcat]

Vmn

[bold geode]

Mirai CIR kinda ass

[shadow wind]

Ah heck nah

[rustic mountain]

doesnt feel that way if they r good

[shadow wind]

Gun to my head hit a move

[left bobcat]

All I’m really tryna say

[shadow wind]

Tera electric in eterrain

Light screen

This is why we run specs kids

[jolly iron]

ik its probably not the right place to ask but: hypothetically, if a person didnt want to go to an in person regionals, could they do it online?

[shadow wind]

I don't think so no

[jolly iron]

alr

also, is the online tournament on apr 11-13 reg G or reg I

[vocal plume]

Reg G

Reg I isn't active until May

[jolly iron]

oh alr

[vocal plume]

People are just testing a ton on Showdown

Myself included

[jolly iron]

yay, the team i spent 20+ hrs making isnt useless

[jolly iron]

yea, i was thinking something with miraidon + terapagos for reg I

[jolly iron]

the team i made is reg G btw

[vocal plume]

I'm honestly not sure how viable terapagos is gonna be in this new reg

[shadow wind]

Buddy didn't know I keep my tera till marriage

#NeverExhaust

But also

What is that play 😭

[vocal plume]

The foul play?

[shadow wind]

Nah I went foul play cause I had nothing else to click

[vocal plume]

Oh 💀

[shadow wind]

Reflect and light screen were both up in psychic terrain

+3 76+ Atk Grimmsnarl Foul Play vs. 204 HP / 20 Def Zacian-Crowned: 96-113 (49.7 - 58.5%) -- 98.4% chance to 2HKO

But also it's not bad damage if I hit the Zacian when they SD'd

[solid frigate]

tf

wait nvm

foul play has weird calc stuff

[shadow wind]

STAB foul play 🙏🙏

[smoky shard]

What yall know about trickroom rampardos

[shadow wind]

I know that it loses to CIR

[vocal plume]

We don't make the rules around here.

[chrome knot]

tree ive solved balance

[rustic mountain]

iirc some1 day 2'd w/ bastidion but yea idt rampardos has done much

[rustic mountain]

for reg i?

[chrome knot]

ye

[rustic mountain]

pog

my team is balance ish but im still finding there to be holes in certain mus, been testing a buncha variations

[chrome knot]

look pms its so girl coded asw

[rustic mountain]

ok

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2334707124

Thank you AV Kyogre

@rustic mountain I'm in 1400+

[rustic mountain]

nice

[vocal plume]

Right here we go again with the team building

One more team and then I'm sleeping

[solid frigate]

rn i can lock in two versions of Mirai Ogre and put it on the blog for like an Alternative

top 100 babeeee

[vocal plume]

Gonna try and build a Caly-Shadow and Korai team

[vocal plume]

Is Caly-Ice the only viable legendary to run a trickroom strat with?

[real prairie]

Lunala too

Groudon maybe aswell

with how fast everything in the format is atm

[vocal plume]

I was looking at Terapagos' speed as well

[real prairie]

very true, turtle CIR is a nice TR combo

[vocal plume]

Might do a Lunala/Terap combo

For ghits and shiggles

Question is what item do I run on terap?

[shadow wind]

Run both with power herb meteor beam

!!!

Man it's rough out here

Bo3 a straight warzone

A warzone with dogs and horses

[solid frigate]

Specs

You can’t set up in this environment

[vocal plume]

Right...

[shadow wind]

I'm literally running 5 mons cause I can't think of a 6th

Maybe it will come to be in a dream

[foggy lodge]

Ditto

[shadow wind]

I need a Zacian Kyogre helper and ditto ain't that

I also don't respect ditto

[foggy lodge]

Nah you just copy Zacian and kill something lol

[shadow wind]

Yknow that's actually not a bad idea

I might need to start respecting ditto

Sash or scarf ditto?

[foggy lodge]

Scarf I guess

I prefer sash on other teams but if you need something for zacian kyogre I think scarf would be better

[shadow wind]

Yeah probably

Ditto do you just run like max HP and max Speed evs?

Oh my goodness gracious

[vocal plume]

Damn I'm struggling to build this team

I feel I need another damage dealer

[vocal plume]

Anyone available to help?

[shadow wind]

Yeah sure

[vocal plume]

Right the team I've thought of so far is:
Terapagos, Lunala, Amoonguss, Indeedee-F and Gholdengo but I'm really not sure about the team and need a 6th

[shadow wind]

That team has really weird synergy

[vocal plume]

Elaborate if you can?

[shadow wind]

Psyspam but Terapagos

Terapagos gets rid of terrains

[vocal plume]

Hmm that's fair.

[shadow wind]

And Gholdengo doesn't seem good at all right now

It does do well against Zama though

But just Zama

[vocal plume]

Given how most teams are oriented around either CSR or Zama rn I'm not concerned tbf

[shadow wind]

Concerned about what?

Now this is gaming

[vocal plume]

About Gholdengo getting wiped

I can change things around tho

[shadow wind]

Gholdengo gets beaten by like 80% of the restricteds

I just don't see a use case for him

[vocal plume]

Tbf Terapagos only wipes Psychic Terrain once he teras

That's something I just clocked

[shadow wind]

It'll be a positioning challenge

[vocal plume]

Yeah

[shadow wind]

But it isn't terrible

[vocal plume]

I'm just trying to build teams with my limited experience and mons of service

Like the lack of Future Paradox mons, some legendaries such as Zacian and Miraidon for example

[shadow wind]

Hmmm

You could do a Koraidon team

He's pretty strong

[vocal plume]

I've made a couple Korai teams

One with Lunala and one with CSR

[shadow wind]

Koraidon CSR is pretty scary

I've seen loads of teams like this

[vocal plume]

I don't even have Chi-Yu to knowledge

[shadow wind]

He's in every file

[vocal plume]

I've got this team built (it isn't optimal ik)

https://pokepast.es/ade85a0546693ce7

[shadow wind]

Looks pretty cool

[vocal plume]

It's based on a premise of super fast

[shadow wind]

But again the synergy is kinda meh

[vocal plume]

Synergy is the thing I can't get my head around.

Roaring Moon and Urshifu are kind of just there

[shadow wind]

Nah what I mean is

Lando is better for rain teams

So is Urshifu

[vocal plume]

So I was half right?

[shadow wind]

And Torn doesn't need scarf if it has prankster

And Koraidon probably doesn't need u turn if it has clear amulet

[turbid ruin]

anyone want to battle? i will NOT battle you if you use terastalization(because its a cheap tactic) or if you use any teams other than monotypes because I want to be a gym leader when i grow up so i need to practice to be the very best. Alright, Charizard I choose you!!!!

[shadow wind]

😭 😭

Here wait

https://pokepast.es/ddb3e2606037de95

[vocal plume]

I'll make some adjustments tomorrow. It's late now but any suggestions would be appreciated

[turbid ruin]

terrible team

[shadow wind]

😭

The team I sent I literally just ripped from guy I just played

But it's a good start I think

Another reason to play Bo3

Robbery

[vocal plume]

I'll copy the link and save it for tomorrow

Appreciate the help 🫡

[shadow wind]

Of course

Reg I is kinda dope

[molten oasis]

Lunala Zac honestly not too bad

[shadow wind]

It is

It's actually really good

Ok maybe not "really"

But Zacian can't hit fire and Lunala gets to hit fire types really hard once a game

[cyan smelt]

I think I like tera fairy moonblast lunala but idk what to replace with calm mind on it

[molten oasis]

I run Tera fairy moonblast with meteor beam

Idt tr is worth it

https://pokepast.es/bcb8b19dbe35837f

[cyan smelt]

My team is similar except I have Indeedee and bolt

[molten oasis]

Still think zacogre is better but this should technically be more consistent

I think for Zac indeedee is really bad

You do nothing into incin

I’d rather have another Mon that hits incin hard

[cyan smelt]

I have Groudon and lunala so idk what to replace Indeedee with

[charred saddle]

oo ability shield koraidon
hmmm interesting

a bit sketchy with the imrison CSR but hmmmm

[shadow wind]

This game sucks

[azure ether]

Grasspon?

[cyan smelt]

Was it tera?

[shadow wind]

Yeah Firepon tera'd in the sun

It's 100% expected

I'm still mad though

[cyan smelt]

Meanwhile my mold breaker ogerpon didn't ohko terapagos in the sun

[shadow wind]

Also what are they feeding incins nowadays

I am max atk

[turbid ruin]

u need to stop using legendary pokemon

another cheap tactic

[shadow wind]

😭

[chrome knot]

bait used to be believable bruh just pack it up

[shadow wind]

0/10 Rage bait

[chrome knot]

stop using groudon…. cheap..

consider,,, shadow rider :D

[cyan smelt]

Only use ur favourites

[chrome knot]

Lurantis would get fucked this time around idk if i agree

[charred saddle]

u havent seen their earlier message tho

[cyan smelt]

Need to put /jk at the end of messages

[charred saddle]

tera is a cheap tactic

[cyan smelt]

Strong Pokemon, weak pokemon etc

[shadow wind]

I do !

[chrome knot]

id say csr is one of my favourites

does that count?

[shadow wind]

"CSR is one of my favourites"

Nah I'm just kidding

It does have a really cool design

[chrome knot]

ok go on, miss precipice..

[shadow wind]

I do 😔

[chrome knot]

ill be here collecting +SpAtk tax dollars :3

[azure ether]

Next thing will be "EV training is a cheap tactic"

[turbid ruin]

i dont use ugly pokemon,,,

[chrome knot]

playing the game and practicing is cheap dont do it

[turbid ruin]

a truly strong trainer can win with the pokemon they got from the start because thats the pokemon u have the closest bond with

[charred saddle]

bond =/= better

[chrome knot]

just talk around him bruh who gaf

he’ll get bored and fuck off if we do xd

[charred saddle]

true yeah idk what im doing rn

[chrome knot]

silly goose

[charred saddle]

🪿

[turbid ruin]

not a guy

dont be rude

[chrome knot]

😵‍💫 there is like 0 info on your profile, sorry then

[twin kindle]

all I see is successful ragebait

[twin kindle]

Clearly sarcastic

[shadow wind]

Bro wasn't familiar with Ho oh's game

[dapper crag]

Looking for someone masterball league+ to help me build a reg i koraidon team

[charred saddle]

wait what, isnt electric fighting = neutral to flying?

[dapper crag]

Dm me

[chrome knot]

waowza what tf

[charred saddle]

terad to grass?

[shadow wind]

They were tera grass

[charred saddle]

oo ye ye icic

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 250: Ho-Oh

Types

Fire/Flying

Abilities

Pressure, Regenerator (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

106/130/90/110/154/90

Total

680

Sableye version 4.28.1

[charred saddle]

holy shit chonky

[cyan smelt]

Conner I won my first two games of bo3 2-0

[shadow wind]

Goat

😭

[cyan smelt]

I like bo3 now

[shadow wind]

This is why I keep messages on

It's so funny

[cyan smelt]

Was this the guy who used iron hands

[shadow wind]

My luck being shown for real here

Yeah this was game 2

[cyan smelt]

I mean most people use iron hands

[shadow wind]

His incredible decision making lead him to click wave crash against my tera grass Ho oh in the sun...

I'm just too lucky

Also ditto just trivializes Dozo MUs

[cyan smelt]

I'm shocked at dozo's longevity lol and it'll probably stick around with megas too

[shadow wind]

Dozo is an incredible mon

Very very well designed imo

[cyan smelt]

I miss skeledirge

[shadow wind]

I never got to play when dirge was good

[left bobcat]

I miss- I miss primarina

[cyan smelt]

I should've played farig or Indeedee armarouge to set tr for it because it used to die to rage fist a lot, spiritomb also died to rage fist

[left bobcat]

We should all have just used dragon cheer and Draco meteor shenanigans

[chrome knot]

i miss p2

[left bobcat]

I miss sandwiches

We are the same

[shadow wind]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regibo3-2334795628-foknlhk70ndg0bxledl2qjt64ar0j6opw

"Taste of your own medicine" ahh game

[cyan smelt]

Lmao

[left bobcat]

Woah

So much GROUDON I don’t know who is who

[shadow wind]

The one with the iconic name

I have W theming

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/5ad6d167b1fe3b91 do I stick with scared sword or go smth else?

Liking the sets on everything else so far

[cyan smelt]

Tera ground tera blast?

[molten oasis]

No

Lowkey I think Tera ground Tera blast sucks

[shadow wind]

In double res yeah

In single it was incredibly good

I should've been higher a lot sooner

[cyan smelt]

Goat

[shadow wind]

Never thought I'd be using the fish

[shadow wind]

I know that in 2022 worlds some ran quick attack

[left bobcat]

….YOU SUCK TERA GROUND RULESSSS

[shadow wind]

You could also run sub

[dense latch]

sub is awesome

[shadow wind]

Tera stellar tera blast ‼️

I think I'm happy with where I am on ladder right now

Erik how has your Reg I experience been?

[molten oasis]

I’m not going quick attack

[astral kelp]

i love tera stellar tera blast

it feels so good to predict an op tera and then BLAST

[molten oasis]

I’m gonna test this (sorta) with Pagos Zac

[shadow wind]

Hey man just going off what has done well

[left bobcat]

PIKACHU USE QUICK ATTACK

[dense latch]

havent played much actually

[shadow wind]

😔

[dense latch]

i've been super busy as of late but i've gotten a few games here and there

[shadow wind]

Valid

What restricteds you running?

You seem like a CIR Miraidon guy

[dense latch]

i think i'm just gonna do some theorizing until the vr tour

[dense latch]

i am indeed a cir miraidon guy

[shadow wind]

Knew it

[dense latch]

boltbeam my beloved

[shadow wind]

As always I'm missing my moves

[dense latch]

lmao

[shadow wind]

But now BOTH my restricteds can miss !!!

[left bobcat]

I’m more of a ch-

[left bobcat]

CALYREX ICE RIDER KYOGRE TYPE OF GUY

[dense latch]

idk man that looks like a skill issue to me

[shadow wind]

Yeah my bad

[dense latch]

should've asked your guys nicely to hit their moves

[shadow wind]

😔

The CIR tera fire'd too

It hurt

[dense latch]

i was on a pretty nice winning streak the day i did play

[left bobcat]

You didn’t use the power of friendship

[shadow wind]

But other than missing my moves the teams been pretty solid

[dense latch]

went 10-0, then lost my first game to a draco miss and went to lose like 4 games right after

[left bobcat]

YOU DIDNT BELIEVE IN THEM

[astral kelp]

why is huge power skill swap not used more?

[cyan smelt]

Spacial rend and hydro pump miss too

[astral kelp]

it looks kinda crazy

[shadow wind]

Nah they hit their spacial rend

[shadow wind]

Sheesh

[left bobcat]

Dude recently I’ve been missing ALL my hydro pumps

[dense latch]

kinda burns a slot in your team and follow me just invalidates it

[astral kelp]

medichan has other stuff to do anyays

[dense latch]

there's better ways of boosting your damage output

[molten oasis]

I’m probably gonna play like

[cyan smelt]

Weezing is just better than medicham

[astral kelp]

i meant pure power

[molten oasis]

Sub SD or sacred sword

[dense latch]

like coaching for example

[left bobcat]

Sacred fire

[molten oasis]

I think quick attack sucks and Tera blast is situational

[left bobcat]

Can game freak give us some more sacred moves 😫

[cyan smelt]

Swords dance leaves you open to intimidate cycling

[shadow wind]

Sacred Sparkle (Fairy)

[left bobcat]

Sacred bug or something

[dense latch]

i like sub

[shadow wind]

Sub is great

Stops intimidate

[cyan smelt]

Doesn't stop parting shot though

[shadow wind]

But you know what does

Throat chop Iron Valiant

[cyan smelt]

Just run cc at that point

[left bobcat]

¿

[shadow wind]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regibo3-2334802715-pbntt56ie2lj8kcn7rnbgmt4s1xexdwpw

[left bobcat]

Just wicked blow- well actually nvm

[shadow wind]

This might my luckiest game to date

[left bobcat]

Did you use the power of friendship?

Did you tell Groudon HES DOING A GOOD JOB?!

[shadow wind]

I used the power of paralysis

[left bobcat]

DID YOU BELIEVEEE

[chrome knot]

on god type shit

[shadow wind]

Bulk up Groudon 😭

[left bobcat]

Oh-

[shadow wind]

Bulk up Groudon should never see the light of day

[left bobcat]

Didn’t you use it as well

[shadow wind]

I think for a bit yeah

Then I realized how epic high horsepower was

[left bobcat]

I prefer my Groudon with specs

[astral kelp]

hmmm what else do i run here

[shadow wind]

Bro wants a big Torkoal

[left bobcat]

Gasp

[dense latch]

rip your opponent's pc

[shadow wind]

Yeah real

Double tbolt para

Into thunder para full para

[left bobcat]

Somehow my miraidon hits more thunders with no rain more than my hydro pumps

[astral kelp]

ig il just run some filler mon

[foggy lodge]

god casual fans are actually so annoying when it comes to comp players complaining about something

[shadow wind]

I’m going nickname all my Pokémon ditto so that if someone isn’t paying attention they’ll be very confused

[shadow wind]

Yes

[dense latch]

dunning kruger effect

[latent leaf]

Always bet on crits

[shadow wind]

NEVER bet on Groudon

[foggy lodge]

like thanks bro for pointing out that the type chart exists before you i was just button mashing random moves hoping that the opponent's pokemon died

[shadow wind]

Yeah not like you can just go /weakness “x” and find it…

[dense latch]

dude shadow rider is SO BAD it is quad weak to dark and ghost

so mid smh

[shadow wind]

Yeah real

[left bobcat]

Reel

[foggy lodge]

Is like the dracovish meme

[left bobcat]

The what?

[foggy lodge]

Of the guy saying that dracovish is better than chi-yu cuz it kills chi yu lol

[shadow wind]

Strongest fish in history vs the strongest fish of current day

Wait I have a picture of that

[solid frigate]

that thing become my no.1 enemy for flinching me twice.

[shadow wind]

There we go

[shadow wind]

I miss Dracovish

[latent leaf]

Isnt kyogre technically a fish

[solid frigate]

its a Orca

which is a mammal

for some reason

[dense latch]

eh

[foggy lodge]

Its a whale/orca so yeah

[shadow wind]

Isn’t it also a leviathan?

[dense latch]

fish

[shadow wind]

Because Groudon is the behemoth

[left bobcat]

HAHAHAAHA

[left bobcat]

Thought it was an armadillo

[latent leaf]

Rayquaza is the cooler one of the two

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/behemoth-blade-pokemon-dog-legendary-fish-gif-15755690

https://tenor.com/view/zama-gif-19228347

[solid frigate]

Kyogre superiority

[shadow wind]

The Behemoth and Leviathan is I believe a bible story, I might be completely wrong

[left bobcat]

Ah yes the SHING and BONK

[shadow wind]

Which Groudon and Kyogre pull their origins from

[solid frigate]

wouldn't be WHABAM for Zama

[solid frigate]

primal-

[left bobcat]

Your right

[solid frigate]

cuz Bonk is Ogerpon

[left bobcat]

WHAPAA

[shadow wind]

Very funny

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/wapow-fireworks-fireworks-gif-boom-firework-gif-26345447

[solid frigate]

dude you main Groudon you should've know lol

[left bobcat]

I’m in my prim-

[shadow wind]

I meant origins as in their lore not their forms just so we’re clear

[turbid vale]

parish trap or trick room or tailwind

[left bobcat]

Oh

[chrome knot]

dawg

[left bobcat]

ALL MY NIGHTTTTTT

[shadow wind]

Discharge?

[left bobcat]

BEEN WAITING

[chrome knot]

cm dgleam drift presumably protect

was kinda shit tho lmao

[left bobcat]

Well damn

[astral kelp]

i just lost to shadow ball spd fall twice in a roll

eternatus sooo lived that

[shadow wind]

What’s the point of using Palkia if it isn’t using for telepathy

Give Palkia water bubble

[shadow wind]

4% chance

[solid frigate]

why-

[solid frigate]

bro thrown away the most important move

Volt Switch

WHY

[turbid vale]

tbh i rhink parting shot is better that volt switch

[rustic mountain]

gholdengo in this meta?

[solid frigate]

i mean fair

But its kinda like Parting Shot is Incin/Grimmsnarl
Volt Switch is Miraidon

[left bobcat]

Glitter

[shadow wind]

U turn is Rillaboom

[dense latch]

volt switch is mirai's real signature move

[shadow wind]

I haven’t seen too many Rillas recently I feel

[rustic mountain]

flip turn is palafin

[solid frigate]

parting shot is for disruptive and support your teammates
Volt Switch is make sure a Pivot, and for Miraidon specfically it can still nuke with Specs

[rustic mountain]

fr? i see it decently often

[solid frigate]

same and i still hate my lead lol

[shadow wind]

Ogerpon is taking over

[dense latch]

i see it so much which hurts as a mirai player 😭

[foggy lodge]

Sometimes u-turn is better than parting shot

[solid frigate]

i seen less ogerpon compare to rila-

[foggy lodge]

U-turn inci is cool to break sash

[dense latch]

i haven't seen like

any amoonguss

[shadow wind]

Breaking sashes usually

[turbid vale]

guys whats the most best strategy exept for balance

[left bobcat]

And scarf ursh

[dense latch]

there's no best strategy

[shadow wind]

Most best 😭😭

[left bobcat]

Matter of fact just make a pivot move for all types

[solid frigate]

Tailroom is one of my favourites, but nothing goes wrong with Hyper offense

[foggy lodge]

Probably HO with things like Miraidon

[lost sun]

fr

[shadow wind]

It’s getting kinda close

[turbid vale]

yes my grammer is bad

[left bobcat]

We already have volt switch, flip turn, u turn, parting shot just make them all

[solid frigate]

can relate cuz same place

[turbid vale]

[rustic mountain]

while i understand the sentiment, balance tends to the most consistent results wise

doesnt mean u cant pilot something else to great success

[solid frigate]

[foggy lodge]

Btw hard TR is broken rn like what the fuck

[dense latch]

oh no i dont mean it in like the grammar way, aside from balance, any of the top strategies are like similar in strength imo

[foggy lodge]

How did we let hard TR get to finals at 3 majors in a row

[solid frigate]

except for stall

Fuck that

[shadow wind]

I think they meant to reply to me

[dense latch]

oh lol

[rustic mountain]

yea

[dense latch]

lmao

[shadow wind]

Bro this is not 2022 !

[rustic mountain]

some ppl just cant let go

[dense latch]

they have like the exact same movesets too lmao

[solid frigate]

LMFAO RINYA SUN

[gentle crag]

morrispxg456 has given 1 Gen Rep to eriksp

[shadow wind]

Rep farming

[dense latch]

what part of that gave me rep

rotom bot lock in

[solid frigate]

bro at this point just replace Zard with Chi Yu

[rustic mountain]

gastro being there in 2025

[turbid vale]

tbh can anyong guve me a guide to vgc

[rustic mountain]

[turbid vale]

i love gastrodon

[gentle crag]

Here is a list of all of the resources I find most helpful when playing/learning VGC:

https://www.vgcguide.com/ (Helpful website for basics and also to get your feet wet)

https://www.pikalytics.com/ (Shows you usage data and helps you build Pokémon)

https://nerd-of-now.github.io/NCP-VGC-Damage-Calculator/ (Damage calculator that is very helpful when building teams or reflecting on games)

https://youtube.com/c/CybertronVGC (Best channel for daily VGC content, guiding you through the thought process you need for success)

https://victoryroadvgc.com/ (Tournament results, team reports and breakdowns, and rental codes can be found here)

https://twitter.com/VGCPastes - Tournament and high ranked teams

https://twitter.com/vgccorner - Helpful Twitter account that posts in-depth EV spreads and ideas about competitive pokemon

There are dozens of other resources, some of which are in the pinned messages of this channel. But these IMO are the best places to start absorbing knowledge and getting to a place where you're comfortable with VGC

mlbd (ID 197813560997314562)

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Command triggered by treeco.. Message from · Dec 17, 2023, 7:30 PM

[left bobcat]

Get me the salt

[rustic mountain]

@turbid vale check these resources out ^

[solid frigate]

there is a lot of them but this is by far the best
#competitive_discussion message

[gentle crag]

EVing resources:
https://www.vgcguide.com/eving-1-how-to-make-simple-ev-spreads
https://www.vgcguide.com/eving-2-the-next-step-why-woul-you-want-a-more-complex-ev-spread
https://www.vgcguide.com/eving-3

https://www.smogon.com/dp/articles/ev_distribution

https://www.smogon.com/rs/articles/magic_stat_numbers#attack

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Command triggered by morrispxg456. Message from · Oct 15, 2024, 1:34 PM

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/b412da582355cdb3 tree wdyt of this?

[rustic mountain]

i jus linked it torrent

oh no nvm

[solid frigate]

nooooooooooooooooooooooooo lol

[dense latch]

yea vgc guide is peak

[rustic mountain]

u linked something else ur good

[solid frigate]

i think i did not watch these guides and whabam me being here rn

[rustic mountain]

looks like supreme butt cheeks

nah im playing

could b good

[shadow wind]

Gottem

[solid frigate]

lol

[rustic mountain]

tera fairy zacian feels weird

[solid frigate]

@turbid vale oh yeah if you wanna ask if your team needs improvements you can ask me or any other people here

[shadow wind]

I’ve been seeing it a lot

[rustic mountain]

also personally think mystic water shifu sucks in reg i

[turbid vale]

why are all of these written by wolfey's friends😭

[rustic mountain]

i told u this earlier torrent lol

[solid frigate]

ok thats against me when i am using it lmao

[solid frigate]

because they are top players who has like

A lot of experience

since gen 5 i think

[rustic mountain]

yep

i think 1 or 2 of em mightve started gen 4

[dense latch]

they're amazing players

aaron zheng started in gen 4 iirc yea

[rustic mountain]

right

he was 1 of the ones im thinkin of

[solid frigate]

and then there's my boi ray rizzo who dominated gen 5 (Worlds)

[shadow wind]

I’m really interested in how Reg I will develop

[turbid vale]

im waching wolfry and reading the guide double tasking amd its abt rain teams

[rustic mountain]

groudon will still b mid

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/hsr-honkai-star-rail-honkai-star-rail-chibi-dan-heng-dan-heng-chibi-gif-9102942869117989428

did i hear raiin teams

[shadow wind]

Nah trust he’ll be goated

[rustic mountain]

[solid frigate]

rain teams are a vibe

[molten oasis]

Bruh

[shadow wind]

Groudon and Ho oh 🙏🙏

[dense latch]

i think the developments in the meta r gonna be really fun to see

[turbid vale]

[solid frigate]

my first VGC team is rain lol

[rustic mountain]

i trust ull prolly do well w/ it. but irl results?

[solid frigate]

and i am still sticking to it

[molten oasis]

Im in a server where people are all over anything BUT swordfish so my thoughts on it working are really skewed

[turbid vale]

i think imma go with parish song but i do need someone to make ev spreads for me

[shadow wind]

Yeah no one does it like me😤😤

[rustic mountain]

lunala zacian?

[dense latch]

i need ppl to work on cir miraidon with 😭

[rustic mountain]

nobody is as interested committing to mid yes

[solid frigate]

perish song is one of the harder archetypes or playstyle,are you sure you don't want to play some basics?

[shadow wind]

Painfully true

[solid frigate]

and idfk how to build one in reg I

lemme see how i can do

[rustic mountain]

ud prolly b like top 10 ladder if u actually used a good restricted

[dense latch]

perish song in reg i is a super uphill battle i feel like

[solid frigate]

but i would also encourage Elyza to become Hong Kong's First dedicated Perish trap player kek

[lost sun]

thoughts

[cyan smelt]

lando food

[rustic mountain]

looks like worlds team but worse

[turbid vale]

😭

[lost sun]

want a miraidon team but I prefer making my own

[solid frigate]

where is my lando kek

[solid frigate]

lol,no pressure (I'll try make a perish trap team hold up

[shadow wind]

But that’s lame

[rustic mountain]

yea but good teams choose things for a reason, just cuz u want it to be different doesnt mean ur not actively making it worse by doing so

[molten oasis]

Lunala and miraidon

No one’s on swordfish because of origin pulse

Which is valid, but it’s still messing with my thoughts on it

[lost sun]

origin pulse missing is a staple in any kyogre team

[shadow wind]

Who even wants to use meta anyway

[turbid vale]

i thunk i wanna start wuth trick room first

[solid frigate]

do you wanna start in reg G or reg I

cuz i have a few ideas for both

[turbid vale]

whats the one for noe

the offical one rn

[rustic mountain]

its a staple of running kyogre

[solid frigate]

reg G, which allows 1 restricted (Aka Boxart)

[rustic mountain]

ew reg g

[rustic mountain]

me

[turbid vale]

then reg g

[craggy dagger]

[shadow wind]

You and the rest of the ladder it seems…

[solid frigate]

even tho its 1 month left i can stil help you prepare

[rustic mountain]

oh yea that seems awkward, but id have to run swordfish to really have a better take, it just seemed like a top 5 duo on paper