Like, cool ur bulky
#competitive_discussion
craggy dagger
Like, cool ur bulky
pixilate isn’t too bad
astral kelp
man
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
craggy dagger
just wasted
left bobcat
But lettuce see those stats
astral kelp
i want megas in the game
i think they need like a rework
but they are soooooo cool
azure ether
Btw how are you guys practicing double restricted?
molten oasis
Well, you hit most things for neutral
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
azure ether
DUbers?
craggy dagger
boltbeam special 
left bobcat
Yeah ass
molten oasis
I need to be doing that more
left bobcat
Especially for a mega evolution
left bobcat
Oh that’s right
azure ether
Especially for a mega evolution
Well we'll only ever play like 5 megas anyway
astral kelp
i thinbk i saw somewhere that they should rework the stat adding that megas get
so pokemon with shitty stats get more stats than pokemon with great stats
left bobcat
i thinbk i saw somewhere that they should rework the stat adding that megas get
I feel like someone is still gonna get the short end of the stick
astral kelp
like mega rayquaza having like 800 bst is just dumb
craggy dagger
like mega rayquaza having like 800 bst is just dumb
parental bond is also kinda dumb
left bobcat
parental bond is also kinda dumb
I’m also kind of dumb
molten oasis
Yea I think uh, megas are cool but they really shouldn’t have given it to restricteds and pseudo legends
azure ether
You can't fix Mega Beedrill getting OHKOd by Iron Hands Fake Out 
molten oasis
Should have stayed on weaker mons
craggy dagger
it’s not the damage output that i’m worried about for parental bond
it’s secondary effects
molten oasis
That’s what was an issue with it
astral kelp
Yea I think uh, megas are cool but they really shouldn’t have given it to restri...
no like its okay
molten oasis
In gen 6 it got power up punch
craggy dagger
Should have stayed on weaker mons
like altaria and aerodactyl
astral kelp
but they shouldnt be as a big a buff as they are on non legendaries
left bobcat
Sword of ruin parental bond fake out
craggy dagger
In gen 6 it got power up punch
free swords dance with damage
molten oasis
Yep
cyan smelt
mega gengar is fun
molten oasis
It was, very broken
left bobcat
GOODNESS GRACIOUS
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
craggy dagger
also i just learned that
mewtwo Y gets insomnia as its mega ability
molten oasis
Mega beedrill is so bad lmao
craggy dagger
why 😭
does it get insomnia
astral kelp
also i just learned that
mewtwo Y gets insomnia as its mega ability
NO SHOT HAHAHAHA
molten oasis
also i just learned that
mewtwo Y gets insomnia as its mega ability
The mega mewtwos were not good lol
astral kelp
he no eepy no more
craggy dagger
mega X got steadfast
cyan smelt
which one was the mega charizard with drought
astral kelp
but yeah megas are so fucking cool
molten oasis
Not great abilities and just, weird movepool for the physical one
azure ether
MCY
left bobcat
mega X got steadfast
Still dookie
craggy dagger
which is miles better than insomnia imo
speed boost for flinch
means if fake out went into mega X you got a +1 for free
molten oasis
Preventing amoonguss sporing you is better than maybe getting faked out?
astral kelp
hmmm kinda wanna try a sun team without groudon or koraidon
left bobcat
I mean mega mewtwo X is supposed to be a physical attacker but it still retains the same old move pool which doesn’t help
craggy dagger
Preventing amoonguss sporing you is better than maybe getting faked out?
problem is you don’t know which mega it would be until it mega’d
astral kelp
like not a full on sun team
molten oasis
If we stay OTS we will
left bobcat
Aura sphere and drain punch are eh
astral kelp
something along these lines
cyan smelt
and then there were primals and xerneas
craggy dagger
If we stay OTS we will
but back then it wasn’t 
molten oasis
Fair point
astral kelp
whats xerneas neutral?
azure ether
It's just an aesthetic form
molten oasis
It’s the form it’s in out of battle
astral kelp
thats a crazy ability
molten oasis
Kinda like the baby Pagos
molten oasis
thats a crazy ability
Oh it gets so much worse
cyan smelt
looking forward to xerneas + flutter in champions
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
azure ether
Cue in the Flutter calc
molten oasis
BROKEN move
left bobcat
And the best physical psychic move it has is what? Zen headbutt
astral kelp
is this fucking super calm mind
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
molten oasis
is this fucking super calm mind
Super quiver dance
cyan smelt
add in dark void smeargle for extra fun
craggy dagger
Super quiver dance
it’s just a simple + quiver dance
molten oasis
Isn’t simple triple the stats or am I dumb
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
azure ether
It's 2x
craggy dagger
doubles stats
astral kelp
it’s just a simple + quiver dance
fuck now i want to play simple beam quiver dance
molten oasis
It is doubled my bad
craggy dagger
fuck now i want to play simple beam quiver dance
i’ve done that before
it’s
scary
molten oasis
I’m so glad there’s no good simple mon
craggy dagger
simple beam latios
azure ether
If a Simple mon used a 2x boost, it would be 3x, I think?
molten oasis
That’s a crazy ability for any set up mon
left bobcat
Yeah it’s scary
astral kelp
i’ve done that before
it’s
scary
wanna see a funny simple beam team
craggy dagger
quiver dance volcarona
left bobcat
Until I bring haze
molten oasis
RIGHT it’s nothings normal ability
astral kelp
molten oasis
You have to get it from simple beam
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
cyan smelt
simple dondozo
molten oasis
Eww
astral kelp
fun fact the only pokemon that knows simple beam rn is numel
molten oasis
This looks worse than CSR geezing shit
astral kelp
This looks worse than CSR geezing shit
oh it is
lugia doesnt fucking die
it also does no damage
molten oasis
Super crit miraidon go
left bobcat
Hmmm so they have a gluttony ability what if they had a greed ability
craggy dagger
You have to get it from simple beam
there’s one line for simple but 3 lines that get simple beam
one by egg two by level up iirc
swoobat line get simple
psyduck line is egg
spoink line is level up
astral kelp
so if i dont have poison up i kinda lose from unability to do anything
molten oasis
lugia doesnt fucking die
Go Go gadget miraidon
cyan smelt
go go prankster taunt
azure ether
Fake Out disables your Multiscale
left bobcat
Exactly go go prankster taunt
astral kelp
oh nonono you guys arent getting it
left bobcat
oh nonono you guys arent getting it
Oh no I get it
astral kelp
imagine lugia with a 6 stages of defence and spd
molten oasis
244+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Electro Drift (Super Effective) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Multiscale Lugia in Electric Terrain: 229-272 (107.5 - 127.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
left bobcat
I’ve used lugia
cyan smelt
dozo walls your team
molten oasis
244+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Electro Drift (Super Effective) vs. +2 252 HP / 0 SpD Multiscale Lugia in Electric Terrain: 116-137 (54.4 - 64.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO I dare you recover to full
astral kelp
244+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Electro Drift (Super Effective) vs....
lugia only comes out when it can psych up a +6 snorlax
with stockpile
molten oasis
It’s slower than miraidon so it would explode
craggy dagger
zoommm
left bobcat
And lemme just haze
astral kelp
simple snorlax with stockpile
astral kelp
And lemme just haze
im not saying its a good team
molten oasis
GO GO GADGET ELECTRO DRIFT
real prairie
😱
astral kelp
its just kinda hilarious
astral kelp
nice lil chat
molten oasis
Quite a bit
azure ether
simple snorlax with stockpile
Would probably work against NPCs, ngl
astral kelp
it has
molten oasis
astral kelp
i think i had like a 70% wr on that team
left bobcat
real prairie
We’re chatting
I have some light reading this morning lol
molten oasis
lol
left bobcat
lol
molten oasis
We talked about typings for a while
cyan smelt
snorlax no longer gets self destruct or explode so it can't belly drum explode
molten oasis
Who was belly drum exploding
astral kelp
found a clip of the team
astral kelp
snorlax no longer gets self destruct or explode so it can't belly drum explode
LMAO WHAT why
molten oasis
Who was belly drum exploding
Bro had too much Taco Bell
azure ether
I played a Lugia team in cart ladder a few days back. It had Baton Pass Espathra. Let it get to +6 Baton Pass into the Lugia.
It dropped to Fake Out + Sucker Punch 
cyan smelt
guess they didn't want anything to have belly drum explode
astral kelp
Bro had too much Taco Bell
molten oasis
Eww
left bobcat
guess they didn't want anything to have belly drum explode
I mean who would
astral kelp
I have some light reading this morning lol
wait youre actually gonna read through all of that
thats crazy man
azure ether
Tldr; Ice type is shit
real prairie
wait youre actually gonna read through all of that
I'll skim
cyan smelt
i thought of a good ice type, tera ice kyogre with blizzard in snow
azure ether
Didn't that work in last year's Japan Nats
astral kelp
i thought of a good ice type, tera ice kyogre with blizzard in snow
That just sounds counter intuitive
azure ether
Granted they were CTS but open Tera
cyan smelt
not really counter intuitive, it can calm mind
astral kelp
Might as well go kyurem white
cyan smelt
kyurem-white can't calm mind
real prairie
It has 7 weaknesses
And is good despite it
astral kelp
kyurem-white can't calm mind
It don't need to tho
astral kelp
And is good despite it
Ye we were talking defensive typin
azure ether
https://tenor.com/view/chien-pao-yippee-jump-happy-dance-gif-27595010
Man I rly want that life sized Chien Pao plush
real prairie
Ye we were talking defensive typin
Ice sucky
astral kelp
Because it's so counts intuitive that snow increases defence
molten oasis
https://tenor.com/view/chien-pao-yippee-jump-happy-dance-gif-27595010
KITTY
azure ether
Because it's so counts intuitive that snow increases defence
Snow was made for CIR and only CIR
molten oasis
Bro doesn’t even run snow
left bobcat
Blizzard
real prairie
Cir snow with aveil 🤮
cyan smelt
calm mind miraidon with screens
azure ether
Slap an assalt vest because why not
real prairie
calm mind miraidon with screens
Encore that shit
astral kelp
Imagine if snow increased snow types speed by like 1.3
Then snow would be insane
Its wild how encore singlehandedly stops slow strats from being good
astral kelp
Maybe yeah
molten oasis
Well, better
astral kelp
I was running max hp with veil then I don't need to be fast
Wait glastrier is actually kinda not bad
If you're doing a trick room strat without cir
azure ether
If you're doing a trick room strat without cir
astral kelp
Idk maybe you really like necrozma
astral kelp
My brain went awooga so it has to he
azure ether
Idk, I just searched for "why" gifs
astral kelp
i just had the dumbest fucking idea ever
thoughts
other than running 3 fucking psychic types
with one of them being shitxeggutor
and 3 different fire weaknesses in a sun team 
molten oasis
This is one of the dumbest ideas I’ve ever seen
astral kelp
ignore xegg
the idea is liligant after you toarkoal or calyrex with sun
or you can trick room
its kind of a cts thing
azure ether
It's like my teammate's HTR team, only that he has Hatterene and Flutter in the last slots
astral kelp
oh yea flutter would be good
i could run scream tail too
maybe indeedee isnt the trick room setter for me
astral kelp
i dont blame him its hard trick room
omg what if i run whimsy and a trick room setter
left bobcat
Jack in the box with Pepsi 😫🔥🔥
astral kelp
omg is this a team where i can run one of my top 10 favorite pokemon
this is actually the perfect chandelure team
okay so the idea is
liligant after you csr or toarkoal, chandelure can swap on fire type attacks targeting liligant or calyrex, scream tail is and fluttermane are just good in sun
i can run bulky mane
or maybe instead of scream tail i can use after you celfairy too
left bobcat
or maybe instead of scream tail i can use after you celfairy too
Yeah I feel you mane
Shits crazy mane
astral kelp
so i can lead with liligant torkoal exert INSANE amount of pressure then if toarkoal goes low i can swap to calyrex, or i can lead with trick room set
left bobcat
so i can lead with liligant torkoal exert INSANE amount of pressure then if toar...
I mean-
I’ve done the same and you mostly gotta look out for fake out
astral kelp
fake out is kinda scary
left bobcat
It is scary
astral kelp
i wish liligant learnt quick guard
left bobcat
Which is why I have psychic terrain
astral kelp
but either way
its okay if they fake out because i can expect it
liligant one shots incin i think
left bobcat
….
astral kelp
-1 252 Atk Lilligant-Hisui Close Combat vs. 236 HP / 20 Def Incineroar: 126-150 (63 - 75%) -- guaranteed 2HKO ahhh
-1 252 Atk Tera-Fighting Lilligant-Hisui Close Combat vs. 236 HP / 20 Def Incineroar: 168-200 (84 - 100%) -- 6.25% chance to OHKO kinda sucks
azure ether
Imo if they have fake out pressure, just lead CIR deedee
Let deedee go down and then next turn you have TR up, with both CIR and Chandelure up
left bobcat
He doesn’t have indeedee which I suggest he puts in the team
astral kelp
Imo if they have fake out pressure, just lead CIR deedee
if they have fake out pressure i can lead flutter mane
flutter torkoal
or even chandle caly i
im also considering klefki
wait this is crazy
cyan smelt
Nobody ever uses magic room
astral kelp
i can see why not
but it seems interesting\
0 SpA Klefki Steel Beam vs. 100 HP / 4 SpD Flutter Mane: 102-122 (71.3 - 85.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
could you imagine lmao
https://pokepast.es/cc535cc0deeefa29
gonna leave thi9s here for me to fix when i get home
astral kelp
Yeah ik
I just like having options
It's either that or ig thunder wave
And running thunder wave on a tr team is hella dumb
Ig I could go misty terrain
cyan smelt
Klefki is really vulnerable to taunt
astral kelp
Yea idk about ki
cyan smelt
plus not so good against miraidon and lando
ig you just want it to set a screen and dip
astral kelp
I think i mostly just need a convenient trick room setter
Ig maybe I should go a follow me user
Ogre prolly
I can just follow me trick room instead
cyan smelt
indeedee prio blocks
craggy dagger
what’s happening?
astral kelp
molten oasis
Are those ashes?
astral kelp
Sun trick room with chlorofill
craggy dagger
after you is nice, just be careful of follow me
since after you isn’t a priority move
astral kelp
after you is nice, just be careful of follow me
Yea I've learnt the hard way from trying something similar before lol
molten oasis
Hearth is unironically ur worst enemy with after you stuff
craggy dagger
sunroom isn’t a bad idea, but usually lili is the only fast mon on those teams
craggy dagger
Hearth is unironically ur worst enemy with after you stuff
not if you’re after you pblades
astral kelp
Hearth is unironically ur worst enemy with after you stuff
Yeah I'm tryna think of a way to reliably get rid of it
molten oasis
Can’t be slept gets boosted can redirect after you
molten oasis
not if you’re after you pblades
It eats a pblades
molten oasis
Unless you Tera then it explodes
craggy dagger
yup
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
cyan smelt
uh ogerpon hearthflame has mold breaker so no flash fire for you
molten oasis
Does it matter?
astral kelp
Oh jeez theresed weakness are inconvenient as fuck
molten oasis
It’s a fire type it gets resisted anyway
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
cyan smelt
how about ursaluna, stab guts facade
molten oasis
Ursaluna is awesome
azure ether
The problem is having reliable Rock attacks to begin with
azure ether
Bloodmoon would be better imo
cyan smelt
only thing you have to watch out for is caly-ice and rillaboom with ursaluna
azure ether
You already have your physical TR sweeper in CIR
cyan smelt
oh and hands
astral kelp
What are the pros and cons of bloodmoon and regular
astral kelp
You already have your physical TR sweeper in CIR
I also have a special one
cyan smelt
blood moon is a special attacker so doesn't mind intim
craggy dagger
It’s a fire type it gets resisted anyway
heatran
astral kelp
Bloodmoon has mind eye and can use an item
molten oasis
We were talking about chandelure
astral kelp
Normal does more damage can't be slept
craggy dagger
oh
yeah you don’t need to worry about chandy
cyan smelt
normal can be intimidated
astral kelp
Weak to intimidate yea
molten oasis
Bloodmoon has mind eye and can use an item
Ursaluna only needs one item because it makes it jacked
craggy dagger
Weak to intimidate yea
nothing haze dusclops can’t handle
molten oasis
And intimidate? Incin doesn’t take headlong rush at -1
craggy dagger
it’s the slowest thing on the field so you can haze stat changes before anyone moves
astral kelp
Ursa is actually such a beast
azure ether
Bloodmoon improves your CSR MU
astral kelp
I like it
astral kelp
Bloodmoon improves your CSR MU
Nah I'm trick room I just shit in csr I'm pretty sure
cyan smelt
not after you clefairy variants
cyan smelt
it still gets off an astral barrage and they have a non ghost move too
usually draining kiss or giga drain
astral kelp
They usually run like what
Expanding force draining kiss
azure ether
Tera Water Blast
astral kelp
Bru
molten oasis
Bloodmoon improves your CSR MU
They both do
cyan smelt
also you'll need something for kyogre because they usually switch it into sun
astral kelp
yeah
i mean if i see ogre im not gonna bring my sun set
ill just tr
thats the thing about this team
it doesnt rely on sun 100%
cyan smelt
ngl i wanna use ursa now, it's a beast
astral kelp
it really is
cyan smelt
really hard to stop while tr is up
cyan smelt
3 strong stabs, one spread
astral kelp
wait why tera poison
i feel like ghost would be insane
also i was considering crunch
cyan smelt
poison = no cc or drain punch
astral kelp
tera ghost is right there
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
cyan smelt
no point if you have psychic terrain
cyan smelt
upper hand is a huge mind game
astral kelp
yea cuz if i lead liligant toarkoal op leads incin and something else
i know for a fact they are gonna fake out torkoal
cyan smelt
you can lead torkoal lilligant then switch in indeedee for torkoal if you expect fake out
astral kelp
ahhh ig
cyan smelt
cc for incin, triple axel for rilla
astral kelp
man i dont like axel without lens
cyan smelt
ice spinner then
astral kelp
who do i sub indeedee for even
cyan smelt
flutter ig
astral kelp
hm
cyan smelt
you should put earth power on torkoal so you're not walled by incin in tr
astral kelp
252+ SpA Torkoal Earth Power vs. 252 HP / 60 SpD Incineroar: 88-104 (43.5 - 51.4%) -- 6.25% chance to 2HKO it doesnt really stop it
cyan smelt
you chunk it though
astral kelp
252+ SpA Tera-Grass Torkoal Solar Beam (60 BP) vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Kyogre in Rain: 66-78 (37.5 - 44.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
oh man ogre is so tanky
wait wrong move
why does it say 60bp
cyan smelt
in rain solar beam takes 2 turns to charge
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
molten oasis
Interesting
astral kelp
its just cuz i want tera grass because amoongus is a big weakness
ooh what if i run tera water
so if it rains i can go weather ball
84+ SpA Calyrex-Shadow Rider Astral Barrage vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Chandelure: 138-164 (82.6 - 98.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
maybe this set for chandelure?
or should i gamble
84+ SpA Calyrex-Shadow Rider Astral Barrage vs. 252 HP / 232+ SpD Chandelure: 144-170 (86.2 - 101.7%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO usually they dont run bulky csr so idk
cyan smelt
just put sash on chandelure
astral kelp
ahh i guess
cyan smelt
wait then lilligant can't hold sash
astral kelp
i was thinking of going bulky liligant
chrome knot
cc for incin, triple axel for rilla
dont
craggy dagger
cc sleep powder after you
cyan smelt
protect for the 4th move?
craggy dagger
protect for the 4th move?
if you’re sash and fake out comes around then yes
cyan smelt
what moves should hatt run, i'm thinking gleam, e-force and tr as well as protect
real prairie
real prairie
what moves should hatt run, i'm thinking gleam, e-force and tr as well as protec...
Gleam Eforce, TR and Protect are usually the go to
you can also bluff people with clear amulet lol
cyan smelt
that's for caly-i
real prairie
that's for caly-i
cyan smelt
maybe i could run covert cloak
craggy dagger
you can also bluff people with clear amulet lol
don’t
it’s already been explained so people will be expecting it
real prairie
very valid lol
cyan smelt
ok i actually feel like laddering with tr lol, i know it's basic
craggy dagger
very valid lol
do you have something to knock me out with
cyan smelt
where's that come here image they post in shiny_hunters
craggy dagger
ok i actually feel like laddering with tr lol, i know it's basic
hard tr is prolly the easiest way to get back into vgc and relearn the meta
real prairie
its also on the rise atm
azure ether
I used to be a complete dumbass in using TR until Miraidon + Farig happened
cyan smelt
it helps that i like torkoal
craggy dagger
as much as i dislike hard tr, this teams been serving me really well
cyan smelt
do i run seed bomb or hhp on caly-i
craggy dagger
protect/imprison is interchangeable though
craggy dagger
do i run seed bomb or hhp on caly-i
ground type coverage is generally better imo
cyan smelt
i'm gonna ladder on a fresh alt after this sandwich
cyan smelt
what did u do
austere sun
bazinga
real prairie
what did u do
its just meh
austere sun
pineapple man
real prairie
yes, Dino boy
austere sun
think of a random pokemon that could be used competitively
austere sun
and now pineapple man what is ur pokemon
real prairie
think of a random pokemon that could be used competitively
psyspam dawn wing
real prairie
Theres a sand Zama team floating around
cyan smelt
you could try ttar and zama but sun and rain are really dominant atm
cyan smelt
doesn't care about intim
balmy glen
Dauntless Shield
Oops I’m tired I meant his ability is that^ the item is Rusted shield lul
cyan smelt
ok time to ladder with hard tr
man i got lucky, i got three turns of confusion with alluring voice lol
hard tr is busted
mint void
Im eating real good with these mega leaks
real prairie
Dauntless Shield
Oh Hi Keanu
cyan smelt
lost a couple of games to random cheese
astral kelp
how does kasib berry\
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
astral kelp
?? why did it not work
the whole point of it was for chand to survive astral barragwe\
but it just didnt work
dense latch
unnerve
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
mint void
Nah
dense latch
what does chandelure do in your team that another tr setter can't
mint void
Diff berry could be fun or Room Service if nothing comes to mind
mint void
what does chandelure do in your team that another tr setter can't
Look cool
astral kelp
what does chandelure do in your team that another tr setter can't
flash fire
leanrs sunny day
mint void
For?
astral kelp
such a cool pokemon
mint void
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2327550703
Why Grass Torkoal? Tera Fire just hits harder
real prairie
i can see why people like CIR https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2327550359
astral kelp
Why Grass Torkoal? Tera Fire just hits harder
amoongus weakness
real prairie
its slower than the shroom
astral kelp
way too easy
astral kelp
its slower than the shroom
exactly lol
real prairie
exactly lol
you want to use it in TR no? lol (haven't looked at the team yet)
dense latch
so it'll go first under trick room
dense latch
looks like a hard tr team to me torkoal's almost never gonna be in the field without tr set up
real prairie
just go tera fire, indeedee can cover your spore protection
dense latch
so you have two ways of outspeeding amoonguss
mint void
i can see why people like CIR https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg...
Im ngl...thus is more of an Amoonguss appreciation post
real prairie
Im ngl...thus is more of an Amoonguss appreciation post
very true
i like the lil shroom
mint void
Shmoom
astral kelp
so you have two ways of outspeeding amoonguss
lol yeah thats true actually
oh man whimsy kinda shits on this team
cyan smelt
tera water caly-s is annoying
astral kelp
this just feels hard to pilot
i misplayed a lot
would be cool to have more sun synergy
dense latch
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2327557959-d5wd9j04hljrpqnlho...
lead was weird
astral kelp
wtf man
dense latch
indeedee seems really strong vs arubega
dense latch
y not just indeedee caly lead and follow me trick room
forest arrow
You like sun? Why not try Groudon or Koraidon
astral kelp
bro
forest arrow
But yeah pretty much Indeedee Caly lead is a safe tr set up
astral kelp
i have like
15 groundon/koraidon teams
idk groudon and koraidon just feel akward man
not really a logical thing they just kinda not my playstyle
forest arrow
Fair
astral kelp
this was a cool team tho
i think its mainly lile
i dont like not too squishy restricted and i hate missing precipice blades
groudon is a weird speed tier and akward typing too
real prairie
EERRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHH
Why can't i get on with anything apart from Scarf Kyogre.
astral kelp
bahahah
charred saddle
i dont see how a ground type is an awkward typing wat
astral kelp
idk why either
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
forest arrow
Ground is a great typing
astral kelp
yea its good typing
its just monotype
fuck i actually dont know why lmao
im just gonna blame it on missipice blades
cyan smelt
this team sucks or my piloting of it sucks
spiral ridge
What’s the team?
cyan smelt
caly-i, indeedee, hatt, ursaluna, torkoal, lilligant
astral kelp
yooo we in the same boat LMAO
astral kelp
caly-i, indeedee, hatt, ursaluna, torkoal, lilligant
i was thinking literally the exact same words
spiral ridge
They can do fine enough but same time you gonna have a harder time in this power level
cyan smelt
idk what to try then because nothing i try works
spiral ridge
Just
Be basic and try a regional winner team
If you can’t tell team or piloting issue can’t make it much more pilot issue than that
astral kelp
i was thinking literally the exact same words
i think this team has potenetial ofc chandelure is shit
would be cool to have more sun synergy
chrome knot
emmaaaa
do you have something you can knock me out with
wat
real prairie
hear me out... (Please don't actually)
@astral kelp right up your street lol
i kid ofc, basically gives Tinkaton involuatary Truant lol
mint void
https://pokepast.es/d801b5b0b71d47cd
Ngl. This might not even KO half the roster
cyan smelt
i'm losing too much time to scrap the team
spiral ridge
Swagger was used on uh
Fuck what’s the pseudo called
The bitch Floats and got 4 arms
Swagger was used on them I think way back
shadow wind
Metagross?
charred saddle
The bitch Floats and got 4 arms
ur the bitc that floats and as 4 arms
shadow wind
Floating and 4 arms is not how I would describe em
charred saddle
ill swagger on your face scotty
spiral ridge
Floating and 4 arms is not how I would describe em
Yknow another pseudo that has 4 arms and Floats
chrome knot
The bitch Floats and got 4 arms
what
shadow wind
I feel like the fact he’s metal and has a giant X on his face is more important than the floating part
spiral ridge
I was gonna say metal next
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
spiral ridge
Chonk
shadow wind
I guess I got it from that description so I can’t say much
shadow wind
Honestly pretty good stats
real prairie
Ngl. This might not even KO half the roster
It won't do shit to anyone haha
shadow wind
It’d OHKO CIR
real prairie
It’d OHKO CIR
Tinkaton? Lol
shadow wind
At +2 yeah
dense latch
im trying out the mdb regional winning team
man i've been missing out on so much not playing hard tr
cyan smelt
What's the team?
cyan smelt
Nice, I do like hard tr, when it works it's really good
I feel like I can't keep track of the meta and I feel so lost this reg
shadow wind
im 17-1 so far
Gaming
forest arrow
Chat he’s cooked
craggy dagger
it wasn’t metronome?
craggy dagger
oh
mint void
man i've been missing out on so much not playing hard tr
Yeah I also swapped to Hard TR
foggy lodge
0 speed Urshifu oh god
left bobcat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txzIYxoYjJo
Love is quite the overstatement
left bobcat
against a miraidon iron hands and iron leaves
and iron crown
and iron bundle 
and all the iron
mint void
Im not watching
charred saddle
cant live without youtube prem again
next stump
easily my most used subscription service
i probably watch like 4-6 hours of youtube per day when factoring in my work commute and at home watching
foggy lodge
Im not watching
Skip till the end and click rewatch
I think that eliminates the ads too
molten oasis
Im not watching
That’s insane
real prairie
youtube premium OP didn’t even notice that
"YouTube Premium"
mint void
^
next stump
charred saddle
easily my most used subscription service
also accounting to youtube music
whhich i basically use everytime
bold geode
Im not watching
L no Premium
bold geode
youtube premium OP didn’t even notice that
It's so big bro
I watch a lot of YouTube on my TV and ads on TV are even worse than on other devices
Now I'm low-key spoiled by Premium
mint void
L no Premium
L U pay I use ad block
bold geode
L U pay I use ad block
L I can use my YouTube with no ads on every device
mint void
I dont even watch YT anywhere but my PC so doesnt matter but yeah
lost sun
YouTube cooked rn nothing good on it
grizzled island
Question can the bunny horse rider be traded to SV?
next stump
yes but you need to separate them
mint void
If I was rich I'd buy so much stupid shit
im doing that already
chrome knot
-8ball should i actually practice
gentle cragBOT
should i actually practice
:8ball: My reply is no
chrome knot
YAY
molten oasis
My bank account
molten oasis
<a:spriggylobotomy:1320717923484172359>
left bobcat
There was something on Ig that I liked
It was a squirtle thing that you can put in the back of your car and it sprays water
grizzled island
yes but you need to separate them
How do I get the bunny off the horse
mint void
How do I get the bunny off the horse
Same as u get it on
Reins of Unity, you can buy them at the auction hall in SV if u have Calyrex
chrome knot
waow..(im not buying)
grizzled island
Same as u get it on
I don't know how, it's in shield rn
mint void
In shield idk. Just move it to SV
Buy the Reins of Unity in the auction hall
Use them on the Calyrex to unfuse and fuse as u wish
grizzled island
Ty!
real prairie
@molten oasis
real prairie
2nd place Zacian in GC is cool
im also not sure if i back or hate the dragonite resurgence
molten oasis
Yea congrats to that guy
molten oasis
im also not sure if i back or hate the dragonite resurgence
Part of me is like “I just bblade spam and you can’t do anything” the other part of me is “stop walling my team”
(I play hearth shifu a lot)
real prairie
i just thought you'd like to see it based on your DP lol
molten oasis
no I’m glad you sent it to me
However I wanna see the sets before I say anything else
mint void
I dont see DNite here
next stump
mint void
...
real prairie
i assume Link has some illaborate joke
mint void
I just mean...I dont see why specifically Dnite over sth else
real prairie
oh
mint void
Tbf despite Pao I also dont have a diff idea but thats just me not knowing Zacian too well
real prairie
Tbf despite Pao I also dont have a diff idea but thats just me not knowing Zacia...
id imagine its loaded dice set
chrome knot
hi dragonite :D
real prairie
get those speed boosts
chrome knot
dragonite is so friend shaped
spiral ridge
I love dragonite it looks like they have a beer belly and that always makes me giggle
left bobcat
https://tenor.com/view/dragonite-pokemon-gif-20110332
Me in the future
molten oasis
Tbf despite Pao I also dont have a diff idea but thats just me not knowing Zacia...
weakness flip
spiral ridge
lol
molten oasis
zac resists the types dnite's weak to and vice versa
lost sun
does foul play scale of the opponents attack and my attack or just opps atk
left bobcat
does foul play scale of the opponents attack and my attack or just opps atk
THE OPPSSSSSSS 🐍
Why do you think sableye and farig run foul play
(Well at least some
lost sun
tbh I thought it worked like spout
real prairie
foul play Amoongus cooks
molten oasis
it does
lost sun
boiled mushroom
left bobcat
Mushrooms can be really good
lost sun
boiled
left bobcat
That’s what my mom does
real prairie
That’s what my mom does
GGs
left bobcat
Then she makes it into curry
real prairie
Then she makes it into curry
Wasn't Currys last gen?
should make them into a sandwich for better shiny odds
left bobcat
Wasn't Currys last gen?
Huh
livid vine
quick someone give me a restricted and ill try to build a team
craggy dagger
cosmog
livid vine
alright i did cosmoem i can do cosmog
craggy dagger
lol
good luck
i tried and while it does work it needs too much positioning
livid vine
my cosmoem team was just my terapagos balance except with cosmoem instead
craggy dagger
i used psych up stored power lugia paired with eviolite cosmic power cosmoem
left bobcat
quick someone give me a restricted and ill try to build a team
Mewtwo
real prairie
left bobcat
I already know what time I’m gonna settle with for the remainder of the week
lost sun
I use Draco m they terra I use flash cannon they don't terra
craggy dagger
over predicting
happens to all of us
has anyone been watching the documentary series road to worlds?
next stump
yes i really enjoyed it
left bobcat
yet they all use the same team
Eh miraidon was just getting boring
nocturne holly
What reg r we on
Nvm reg g still
Bro i haven’t played in like 4 months and the meta is still like so similar
Cornerstone is way higher
next stump
6 days till new rules
molten oasis
so close
atomic mural
i really hope its double restricted
molten oasis
surprise! its no tera format
atomic mural
booo
next stump
that would be crazy
dense latch
give us reg c+
molten oasis
if they really wanted to extend the game longer, that could happen
dense latch
save double restricted for next year I do NOT wanna face csr and zamazenta at the same time
dense latch
lowkey kinda cooking with this new alt
idk if 80% gxe is in reach tho even if i go on a good winning streak
mint void
6 days till new rules
H.2
mint void
quick someone give me a restricted and ill try to build a team
WHY?
molten oasis
What reg r we on
omg hes alive
astral kelp
quick someone give me a restricted and ill try to build a team
zekron
nocturne holly
How have you been
I’m good dawg how have u been?
solid frigate
What reg r we on
damn long time no see
forest arrow
I’m good dawg how have u been?
I’m good man
forest arrow
Bro i haven’t played in like 4 months and the meta is still like so similar
Koraidon doin way better this time around
astral kelp
this shit so peak
solid frigate
and Calyrex Ice likes TW
molten oasis
koraidon is not fraud tier anymore
astral kelp
idk if he was predicting me to trick room or if he was trying to trick room my trick room
solid frigate
for now is just Pagos who is fraud
It does have core dedicated to it tho
Even Lunala won something in NA+EU
forest arrow
I don’t see it doing to well double res
astral kelp
yeah pagos is very selfish
forest arrow
Maybe a specs set
astral kelp
i could see pagos lunala work
wide guard lunala
pagos is pretty decent in trick room too
solid frigate
yeah pagos is very selfish
they don't want to make another Calyrex Problem
They toned back Ogerpon and Terapagos a lot compare to Urshifu and Calyrex
nocturne holly
damn long time no see
yea how u been
astral kelp
man ogre is sooo fucking good
nocturne holly
Koraidon doin way better this time around
woahahhhh is flutter still good
astral kelp
is there anything that does se to hearth corner and water?
nocturne holly
flutter was actually really fun to use
astral kelp
maybe poison type ig
astral kelp
woahahhhh is flutter still good
have you seen flutters stats
it will be a cold day in hell when flutter is bad lmao
forest arrow
I mean ogerpon basically has intrepid sword boost to whatever stat depending on Pon
solid frigate
yea how u been
I'm a Miraidon and CIR Main now
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
nocturne holly
Is miraidon rain still a thing
forest arrow
Flutter is good
astral kelp
yea ig poison
next stump
i dont think poison is super effective into rock pon right?
astral kelp
maybe a cool poison type
solid frigate
Is miraidon rain still a thing
now its Arubega Miraidon now
astral kelp
ogre kinda fucks me
nocturne holly
now its Arubega Miraidon now
what is arubega
solid frigate
what is arubega
worlds winning Miraidon team
forest arrow
i dont think poison is super effective into rock pon right?
No you’re right
It’s neutral to rockpon
nocturne holly
worlds winning Miraidon team
Oh yeahhhh what was on it again
solid frigate
Oh yeahhhh what was on it again
Miraidon,whims,Hearth,fari,Urshifu and Hands
but i am not using it cuz i don't want to be targeted
nocturne holly
I wish whims got rain danceeeeew
molten oasis
whimsi would be just THE tailwind setter if it had that
nocturne holly
I got into tcgp and little and damn it’s so much more boring b than vgc
Yooo raging bolt is still good
nocturne holly
yeahhhhh didn’t expect it to
forest arrow
Hard TR is making a resurgence
molten oasis
peli fell off
nocturne holly
peli fell off
😭🙏
solid frigate
yeahhhhh didn’t expect it to
https://pokepast.es/a804cf0fdefdc031
I am using this core cuz i just don't wanna use Arubega too much
nocturne holly
what’s the premier rain setter
solid frigate
what’s the premier rain setter
torn
forest arrow
Kyogre lol
nocturne holly
Torn?
molten oasis
kyogre or torn
nocturne holly
yeah thought so
astral kelp
why tf are golduck and psyduck not psychic type
molten oasis
we've been asking for years dude
astral kelp
i just realized it
molten oasis
i get psyduck cuz sometimes they make the evolution the intended typing but golduck not being psychic water is so odd
solid frigate
yeah thought so
also CIR got a new core now
One that does not run Hard TR
molten oasis
moon hearth shifu lando just became a core
nocturne holly
also CIR got a new core now
One that does not run Hard TR
What is it
forest arrow
Lando, Ursh, Hearth is a strong core atm
molten oasis
works with like literally anything lmao
nocturne holly
moon hearth shifu lando just became a core
Wait that’s actually tuff
moon is so cool
molten oasis
yea moon made a resurgence
solid frigate
What is it
CIR,Moon Hearth Shifu Amogus and Lando
molten oasis
ye
nocturne holly
or acro
forest arrow
Yeah tailwind acro, knock off
solid frigate
i think my team used that core but subbed Lando with Crown and Amogus with Flutter on my miraidon team
solid frigate
Yeah tailwind acro, knock off
i run taunt cuz its funny
forest arrow
Entei my goat
molten oasis
can dragapult make a comeback plz
solid frigate
no
forest arrow
Maybe if it’ had a good physical ghost move that didn’t depend on Tera
molten oasis
phantom force is a good move
nocturne holly
CIR,Moon Hearth Shifu Amogus and Lando
That’s actually so cool
forest arrow
Easy to play around tho
nocturne holly
Gonna start with that probbb
molten oasis
Easy to play around tho
i mean
nocturne holly
does anyone know of a rental for that
molten oasis
i feel like to some extent if you pressure the slot that would want to switch in with like, shifu or smth then they might be forced to take the hit
but your not wrong
solid frigate
That’s actually so cool
https://pokepast.es/92420a9a74946cce
I run the exact core in Global challenge(Which smh nobody saw that)
Just with the wrong water type
forest arrow
does anyone know of a rental for that
Check dm
You’re not wrong either it’s trivial
solid frigate
is it possible that i can remove my calyrex rental team in #rental_teams
i feel like nobody would notice it
craggy dagger
solid frigate
hoi nova
rustic mountain
feels like a question for a comp helper
about the rental team, feel like itd be fine to remove it urself but im also not a comp helper idk their system
molten oasis
hi nova
solid frigate
feels like a question for a comp helper
its just like i don't think people would care about my rental given on this is probably my most commited rental
forest arrow
I don’t think it hurts if you remove you’re own rental
next stump
99% sure you can just delete it if you want to
solid frigate
i'm asking cuz i am conflicted
rustic mountain
wats the harm in keepin it up?
molten oasis
i see no harm in just leaving it there
people might play it and just not say anything
rustic mountain
id imagine thats wat most ppl do
molten oasis
yea same
forest arrow
Agreed here
left bobcat
HEAH
solid frigate
i think i targetted on the casual audience cuz ya know something something Greninja is popular
rustic mountain
i think i targetted on the casual audience cuz ya know something something Greni...
ok? and thats fine
solid frigate
then again its just me being petty
craggy dagger
i would keep the rental up there.
there are people who will play it and people who won’t
but there’s no harm in keeping it up.
plus it helps people understand how the game works anyways.
having multiple different perspectives into the meta via the write ups in that channel offer a lot of insight
and your perspective is just as valuable as anyone else’s
solid frigate
if its like a different team then yea sure
left bobcat
Wait what’s going on
solid frigate
i will keep it,but this is literally just 5/6 tang team
molten oasis
thats fine
solid frigate
Wait what’s going on
me being nihilistic again
left bobcat
me being nihilistic again
Oh
solid frigate
this is the third time of this week
left bobcat
Just use calm mind
rustic mountain
me being nihilistic again
idk wat happened man but either take a break from the game or lock in
molten oasis
dont be like me please
rustic mountain
cant overly doubt urself
molten oasis
hey man, its true
solid frigate
You could use a CHILLING
i'm literally using that restricted so yea good one
solid frigate
finally using good restricteds
i am using Miraidon and CIR over Turtle for the past few months
molten oasis
i use a bad restricted
rustic mountain
zacian isnt bad per say its just not good
left bobcat
i feel like ur reactions are atleast better then they were
Did someone say REACTION
molten oasis
yet
left bobcat
molten oasis
its not good yet
left bobcat
i'm literally using that restricted so yea good one
Same here
molten oasis
cnat wait to only play sword fish
left bobcat
So far I came up with 2 ideas
craggy dagger
i will keep it,but this is literally just 5/6 tang team
so what?
it has your unique twist to it