competitive_discussion

[foggy lodge]

Pao solves problems against Groudon/Landorus

[craggy dagger]

so does urshifu rapid

[mint void]

arguably a bit worse tho

since Sun for Groudon and speed+OHKO from Lando

[chrome knot]

nova

do u pronounce Sherbet like Sherbert or Sherbit

[spiral ridge]

Extending this are we

[craggy dagger]

i always thought the T was silent?

[spiral ridge]

You say sherbé?

[lost sun]

sherbay?

[craggy dagger]

it’s what everyone around me said so i picked it up

[spiral ridge]

The plot thickens

I think we should just delete the word and start over

[lost sun]

it's sherbert with a short r sound

[spiral ridge]

Question: are you American

[lost sun]

no English

[spiral ridge]

Hm
So maybe not just dialect thing

[mint void]

google says the 2nd

but like more of a u sound than i

Sher-böt basically.

Ö probably doesnt tell u a lot but

[chrome knot]

sherbit

[foggy lodge]

https://pokepast.es/656292c93bf84056
https://pokepast.es/63303e03203c3509

[chrome knot]

like im playing mario kart and im picking Sherbet Land

[spiral ridge]

Sherbert land

[foggy lodge]

Oops earth power is better than aura sphere

[foggy ice]

Is there anywhere in this sever where i can ask for help?

[mint void]

here

[foggy ice]

Im just wondering how i go about teaching stuff like tailwind to smeargle

im looking for a really supportive smeargle with 1 offense move just in case ya know, im still really new to this stuff so im not really anywhere near good at it

[mint void]

sketch it from a mon

I think you can in Union circles

maybe even Breeding with Mirror herb works

idk im not using smeargle

[chrome knot]

bb academy double battles, sketch

[foggy ice]

is there like any way to guarantee that i face the moves i want or is it all trial and error

[chrome knot]

you be the move u want lmao

[foggy ice]

wait im a bit dense 😭 can i sketch it from myself?

[foggy lodge]

Yes

[chrome knot]

ye side target sketch

[foggy ice]

oh that really simplifies it

[chrome knot]

tailwind
sketch partner

[foggy ice]

i shoulve thought of that, thank yall so much

another just thing ive had on my mind concerning the power band/bracelet etc, does it raise the stat if the mon fights in the battle or if it levels up? or does everyone who recieves xp gain some EVs

[chrome knot]

everyone

[foggy ice]

oh really thats handy thank you

[scenic yacht]

why is it whenever I assign my EVs to what is suggested, there is two EVs always left over to be assigned?

[mint void]

yeah

they dont do anything

[scenic yacht]

why? that’s so fucking dumb. Is this an oversight from gamefreak?

[mint void]

lvl 100 all 4 EVs is one stat point.
For lvl 50 which is comp all 8 EVs give one

coding increments afaik

[scenic yacht]

is it wise for me to just assign the last 2 to the third stat. Let’s say it’s 252 speed, 252 HP, 4 attack - and I assign the last two to attack for example, is that wise?

[scenic yacht]

oh my god

[mint void]

no

it doesnt do anything

[scenic yacht]

that’s why I thought I messed up

ffs

[foggy lodge]

510 EVs available for a mon but only 508 are usable

[scenic yacht]

is there any reason for this? If the last two are useless, what’s the point in them being able to be assigned?

[foggy lodge]

idk it just works like that

Its not important

[scenic yacht]

it’s just annoying because there’s always that slight possibility you’ve messed up somewhere, and that extra two leaves doubt - especially when it doesn’t tell you how many you’ve assigned

[foggy lodge]

Track it with showdown

[scenic yacht]

that’s true - I just wish it wasn’t so obscured for no reason

[foggy lodge]

Do the ev training until the in-game stats match what your stats are on showdown

[scenic yacht]

The first time I did this, I thought I had messed up because of these extra two EVs at the end, and I ended up wasting another like 20,000, a couple of berries and a couple of feathers

thank you friends!

[mint void]

there is yeah

https://www.reddit.com/r/TruePokemon/comments/6spfbk/the_problem_of_the_510_ev_maximum/

if you are bored

[scenic yacht]

did you have that on hand or did you go searching for an answer for me?

[mint void]

TLDR: used to be 255 per stat poss(probably cause of Memory usage as 255 are 1 byte)

to much effort to change it

[mint void]

no I already read that

not on hand but I just had to find it again

[scenic yacht]

good, I was going to say that you didn’t have to do all that for me 😅

why didn’t they just up it 1 to 266?

[mint void]

probably a similar issue as the code is likely in 8 bit numbs + it would change the system

the cahnge from 255 to 252 doesnt impact the final stats

it just stops you from wasting these 3 possible EVs

[random sphinx]

anyone who uses farigiraf should be placed under a psych hold

[dense latch]

https://tenor.com/view/farigiraf-pokemon-pokemon-scarlet-and-violet-cry-pokemon-cry-gif-27236296

[random sphinx]

lagging tail man

like why does it affect their second mon

I dont get it

[next stump]

armor tail?

[random sphinx]

ah yes

whatever it's ability is

[bold geode]

I know you picked to be something silly

[next stump]

it’s a good ability but at least you know they all have it

[random sphinx]

I would If I wouldn't keep forgetting what it does

[next stump]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-pikachu-pikachu-skill-issue-gif-3559280283046901335

[dense latch]

just don't forget

[random sphinx]

obviously don't play comp enough

[frank ferry]

Can i join global challenge with a rental team?

[foggy lodge]

No

[frank ferry]

Ah dang ty

[real prairie]

Locked in for GC, gonna play basically all my games Sunday 😭🤣

Possibly hung over AF too haha

[spiral ridge]

Some of the greatest success stories come from situations like that
And failures too

[solid frigate]

i still have to do homework and do team document later on

wtf monke

[bold geode]

Finally
A love story for me

[spiral ridge]

Except he actually found love

[bold geode]

Damm

[spiral ridge]

:3

[real prairie]

Damn

[random sphinx]

does gender matter on Dondozo?

[mint void]

no?

like if some freak runs attract on a mon it does a bit but its still gonna be gambling

since u dont know their Gender so no doesnt matter

[random sphinx]

fair enough

I saw it was specific on Justin Knox's Worlds Top 16 team so I was just curious

[mint void]

the tatsugir form matters

[random sphinx]

yeah I got that

his was shiny but I assume that's strictly cosmetic

[real prairie]

One of the shinies looks like one of the other forms, so in CTS it's a tiny bit of withheld information, but otherwise it doesn't matter

[solid frigate]

if you can't read that is

it will still show base colours when Commander ability is shown in cart

[real prairie]

That's why I said CTS haha

[solid frigate]

you can look at the pokemon's preview to see which one is it

just move your cursor to the Pokemon's Icon

[real prairie]

Haha fair

[solid frigate]

yeah thats why i always know which one is it cuz reading

[real prairie]

I never care, they all protect at one point or another and I just encore them

[bold geode]

Reading is hard

[solid frigate]

blame me on being a science nerd

[next stump]

is the GC lock in 55 minutes or 115 minutes?

[azure ether]

What do non TPCi players get for playing the GC?

[solid frigate]

i think so but that does not matter too much for me cuz i already locked in yesterday

[next stump]

nothing

it only matters for NA Japan EU

[real prairie]

12.00am GMT

So 1 hour 48 minutes

God damn AI, now I want a chikorita

[chrome knot]

eeww

[real prairie]

That a good or bad eww 🤣🤣

[chrome knot]

bad ew

AI is stinky

[lost sun]

does zamazenta run Def and speed EVs or smth else

[real prairie]

HP, Atk, Def and speed

[lost sun]

what's the spread

[real prairie]

Ima try to find it one second

[lost sun]

ok

[dense latch]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2324260929-5ktpdb2dv3yjk6atuprxjqu8ngupp2wpw need to make my calyrex two points faster lmao

i get outsped by -1 max speed smeargle

[mint void]

@lost sun check pins

Vgc repository. Just have a look at Zama sets in therr

[real prairie]

Impish:92/4/244/0/4/164

[lost sun]

thx

[real prairie]

Was it not scarfed?

[tight briar]

bo3 vgc 58008522

[lost sun]

moveset iron head body press wide guard and smth else like iron defence good

[dense latch]

i thought it was too

[real prairie]

Heavy slam, body press, wide guard, protect

[dense latch]

but max speed smeargle at -1 is 93 speed

[next stump]

you want protect for sure

[dense latch]

my calyrex is 92

[real prairie]

Oof

Wtf is this and where can I watch it??!!

[mint void]

Ooioh

[solid frigate]

mine is just 90

At least i can outspeed Max speed Pon under TW lol

[dense latch]

yea i just stole 92 from navjit's team
im speed creeping the CIRs that speed creep 90 >:)

[solid frigate]

i mean i just bring Tang Team into GC

But adding little twist

[real prairie]

You weren't a million miles off... It's a music video not an anime, on the YT "ooo0eve0ooo"

[foggy lodge]

shit like the primals in gen 6 trying to underspeed the opposing primals

(people realized it was suboptimal after lvl 48)

[solid frigate]

unless you run Mega Ray but like

[dense latch]

fuck it

level 34 groudon

[lost sun]

chien pao goes for speed and attack EVs right

[foggy lodge]

252 atk 252 speed 4 def

[dense latch]

yes

[foggy lodge]

4 defense so surging strikes doesn't kill you

[solid frigate]

Speed and Attack on 252

4 on HP/def/Spd

And depend on meta trend, Either Adamant or Jolly

[lost sun]

sashed?

[foggy lodge]

Yeah

I use life orb tho but the standard set is sash

[real prairie]

1 hour 8 minute warning for GC registration for those not registered

[foggy lodge]

I just want to watch stockholm this weekend

I think I'm burn of the format atp

[dense latch]

i don't think i could play the gc without taking a two week break from the game afterwards

[foggy lodge]

Real

[dense latch]

it's not like i need the cp im in exams during worlds lmao

[foggy lodge]

Oh also the santiago regional entrys are already sold lol

I couldn't get in

[solid frigate]

at this point i will just reveal my team here and then make a team report

I will also post the team in Twitter after GC

[dense latch]

noooo that sucks

[foggy lodge]

A friend could tho so I'm going as a spectator to see them anyways

[dense latch]

i still regret not attending the special event

[real prairie]

Makes sense, I'm just running back my back my B'ham team with a couple minor changes

[foggy lodge]

Also the only way to pay it was with paypal like wtf

[mint void]

I was just saying oooh but with a typo

[foggy lodge]

Speedrunning the creation of a paypal account to enter the regional

[real prairie]

I know, saying you were surprising close 🤣

[real prairie]

Oof

PayPal sucks ass too

[lost sun]

does chien pao terra to poison

[mint void]

stellar mostly

or ghost

[astral kelp]

i might be delusional

but is lugia kinda good

[chrome knot]

delusional

[astral kelp]

sooo tanky

if youre doing a stall team lugia is probably the restricted you should ruin

tbf all it does is be tanky nothing else really

[atomic mural]

what wise person said this

[mint void]

if u are running a stall team, respectfully, [redacted]

[astral kelp]

[solid frigate]

skrawVGC
I honestly think his vids are more interesting than Wolfey

[atomic mural]

i forgot he said that

[solid frigate]

its in a reg G video

[azure ether]

How far did you get with Groudon?

[real prairie]

About AD into ADHD before he got bored

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/89ab805da0bb24a3

I should've bring this team to Bham than my old team

[real prairie]

Lessons learnt

[mint void]

most accurate statement in this chat to date

[solid frigate]

cuz the new team is so much more fun to play-

[mint void]

Do I run support Volc or Joes Volc?

[chrome knot]

“non arubega” but its just tang core

[real prairie]

Joes

[chrome knot]

youve gone from one popular core to the next

[mint void]

also on CIR?

[real prairie]

AruTanga

[chrome knot]

what the hell, sure

[azure ether]

Core of Theseus

[solid frigate]

idc i just felt tired to Arubega

And Tang team's Core is just too much to not pass

[mint void]

Hello?

Volcarona type shit

[solid frigate]

btw

Technically if i bring that team to bham it does not consider tang core

but eh my brain say fuck this

[azure ether]

Why Psychic Noise over regular Psychic?

[chrome knot]

drain punchn’t

[solid frigate]

Amogus Pollen Puff,Leftovers,Healing Moves

And Most importantly Drain Punch

[chrome knot]

no kisses either

[molten oasis]

Grassy terrain

[azure ether]

Not enough dmg to blow them up instead?

Can't heal when ded after all

[solid frigate]

Booster SpA+Expert Belt

[chrome knot]

farig is not an offensive piece

[azure ether]

I was referring to the Crown

[solid frigate]

196 SpA Expert Belt Quark Drive Iron Crown Psychic Noise vs. 60 HP / 252 SpD Assault Vest Iron Hands: 122-146 (51.4 - 61.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

that still did half

196 SpA Expert Belt Quark Drive Tera Ground Iron Crown Tera Blast (80 BP) vs. 196 HP / 156 SpD Assault Vest Tera Fire Groudon: 122-146 (61 - 73%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Also this happened in my run but its CA instead of AV

[real prairie]

https://youtu.be/j-RpvIuazmc?si=zB8g1CCpwHggFPcV

Riot have done it again, pulled right at my heart strings.

[astral kelp]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2324290445

[mint void]

^goated ting

[astral kelp]

this game was CRAAAZY

[mint void]

but rather old already

[spiral ridge]

can i put something up as a rental then trade away one of the mons

[real prairie]

This was released 7 hours ago, containing snippets from the cut scenes

[mint void]

scene in the show was better ngl

[next stump]

amazing song

[solid frigate]

i think you still can why

[astral kelp]

he has like the same exact thumbnail style

[next stump]

immediately added to my playlist once the episode dropped

[astral kelp]

oh no im sticking to it

[spiral ridge]

wanna rental my lunala GC team but gotta give leo back his shiny goltres

[astral kelp]

untill i get to 1400 i think this is the team

[solid frigate]

yeah but i like Skraw's More Indepth kinda way than Wolfe

Also his jokes are funnier lmao

[molten oasis]

[real prairie]

Word is they are gonna release the 3 hours of deleted scenes from a month time skip with Jinx and Echo 😱

[solid frigate]

you want me to borrow your Lunala team?

[astral kelp]

yeye sounds good

[spiral ridge]

wha?
do you wanna borrow it?

[real prairie]

Ooo we cooking Lunala's?

I'll take a wing

[spiral ridge]

this is from last GC

the g bird trio me leo minh did

with my shiny lunala that took like 2 years and his shiny goltres

[astral kelp]

oh shit ive wacthed something beffore

[mint void]

locked in with CIR Volc

[grizzled island]

Question have people used mewtwo for competitive battles lately?

[mint void]

no he is unfortunatly hardcore outclassed

[solid frigate]

why not

[astral kelp]

technically yes

[spiral ridge]

okay sure one sec

[mint void]

Calyrex Shadow does the same Mewtwo does but simply better in all aspects

[grizzled island]

Oh? How come? Is his typing bad?

[solid frigate]

except Coverage but that does not help at all

[spiral ridge]

uhh

[mint void]

Well CSRs typing is a bit worse defensively but the idea both use is the same

[azure ether]

Opportunity cost

[spiral ridge]

does #rental_teams teams gotta have a big explanation to the team like i always see

[mint void]

CSR has a better Signature move. Better Offense and more Speed

[grizzled island]

Oh I've heard of that pokémon but don't have it yet

[azure ether]

Like why run Mewtwo when you can run Calyrex instead

[astral kelp]

i mean the idea is that if you want to do psy spam might as well use csr over mew two

[mint void]

only in SWSH DLC Crowned Tundra

[next stump]

let’s see if anyone has brought mewtwo to a regional

there’s gotta be someone

[mint void]

basically that. mewtwos best bet is psyspam or nasty plot stuff. CSR does that too with better stat spreads

[grizzled island]

I got the dlc the full one just only did the kubfu stuff so far

[solid frigate]

need to show how the team works and basic stuff

[spiral ridge]

fack

[mint void]

wasnt there someone in here who doesnt have the SWSH dlc recently?

I think I have a DLC code left over

[lost sun]

I have swsh but no dlc

[solid frigate]

Specs is probably Mewtwo's Best cuz he can run Stellar Tera to use its coverage to deal sorta nice damage

[lost sun]

y specs and terra Stella

[next stump]

https://pokepast.es/ce4ad7bf1ceee007

exactly one person

[grizzled island]

Can't u get that gloomy horse in sv dlc? I got the ice horse

[lost sun]

u get the horse but not calyrex

[grizzled island]

Ah

[azure ether]

The rider is locked behind SwSh dlc

[grizzled island]

Oh so how do I get that bunny for the horse

[solid frigate]

cuz Specs locks into one move and you can stack Specs and Stellar Boosted Damage for first hit and do a hit and run style gameplay

[mint void]

u wanna try if the code I have works? Idk if I can still find it/if it still works

[grizzled island]

Id wanna try

[lost sun]

ye

[azure ether]

just finish the entire DLC, seeing that you've already done the Kubfu part

[grizzled island]

I gotta beat the rest of the game first, found out the dlc for the horse starts at lvl 70 🥲

[mint void]

lemme see Ill DM what I find idk if its the right one unfort. Might be lost to the void lets try

[lost sun]

worth a try thx in advance even if it don't work

[gentle crag]

alexr8698 has given 1 Gen Rep to lnk1603

[chrome knot]

just gonna pretend i didn’t open this

[lost sun]

I beat swsh and caught zenta just earlier today aswell

[next stump]

i think that’s my atlanta call

[grizzled island]

I got sword so I get the sword puppy

[dense latch]

oh

that's a team alright

[molten oasis]

Sword dog is goated

[chrome knot]

looking at u w/ a weird look on my face so u know i dont agree😭😭

[solid frigate]

bro has too much Gen 1 Nostalgia

[azure ether]

in gen 8 ye

[chrome knot]

in gen9 2restricted ye

[solid frigate]

gen 9 Zacian is still

Pretty good if you playing it right

And double res it can do some shit

[molten oasis]

At least through some testing Zac is pretty versatile

[azure ether]

well we're not there yet

I pray for it's success eventually

[chrome knot]

literally a month out

[azure ether]

idk man, Reg I can be a curve ball

[solid frigate]

Mirai Ogre my beloved

@spiral ridge where the rental

[azure ether]

seeing that we're not getting gen 10 this year, maybe we'll get double res next year instead

[solid frigate]

no pls no.

don't delay Double res-

[mint void]

gimme another Reg H

[grizzled island]

This is my team, technically ik i couldn't use this in competitive but I'm trying to figure it all out 😭 still learning and stuff

[azure ether]

well if we do get 2 res for Reg I, what are we getting until next year then?

[solid frigate]

where do i even start...

[azure ether]

reading the pinned resources is a good start

[astral kelp]

i just lost to a tarsugiri living on 1hp the pain

[astral kelp]

shaymin my beloved

[spiral ridge]

sorry helping with quaqua raid and dunno what to write 😭

[solid frigate]

i hope this does not offend you but here's my nitpicks

[grizzled island]

Ikr its a bad team but it's all my favorite pokémon

[molten oasis]

Zacogre or Zacpagos

[azure ether]

pick a restricted you wanna use and then look for it in the VGC pastes repo

[molten oasis]

I stg dude

I’ve been waiting for too long

I don’t need another reg h situation

[chrome knot]

bringin swordfish to milwaukee

cheer for me

[azure ether]

is there a regional this weekend?

[mint void]

reg H 2.0

[solid frigate]

Rayquaza with Sash isn't bad,like we seen plays before that uses Sash,but Clear Amulet is way better

Reshiram just not great,plus is only 1 Restricteds currently so this team would be fine with Ogerpon or Chi yu or Incineroar

Meowscarada is only good within Lower power formats,same with Breloom

Doduo sucks,and also your team is LITERALLY calyrex ice rider food.

[azure ether]

Miraidon Boogaloo

[mint void]

competitively thats rather bad but like. For in game do what u want. Shaymin goated.

[solid frigate]

they already beaten the DLC i reckon

[mint void]

But as Torrent said. Like its ass for competitive.

Ray is probs the most viable mon there

[azure ether]

Shaymin is banned

[mint void]

Thats know

[solid frigate]

Sash Ray isn't bad but like

why when Clear Amulet exists

[azure ether]

still ass even if legal ye

[solid frigate]

Shaymin Sky is good in singles idk

[grizzled island]

Haha ya, like I mentioned before atm it's only my favorite pokémon atm, I plan on making a team i just really have no clue were too start, I watch wolfglick and all but it's still a bit confusing.

Main question is why rayray is good with the clear item?

[spiral ridge]

you can not trade mons in a rental team aegis so team going bye bye

[solid frigate]

but like its still ass and probably the best Mythical is either Arceus or Magerna

[solid frigate]

F

[mint void]

why that

what are u getting rid of?

u returning sum right?

[molten oasis]

Good luck

[next stump]

yes

[azure ether]

as much as I like Wolfey, I don't think his recent videos are the best resource if you wanna start learning VGC

[solid frigate]

i think Wolfey's Video are more casual based,so most of the time you probably won't understand it too much if you are new

Also clear Amulet Stops Stat drops

[molten oasis]

I hope swordfish ends up being good, those 2 cover eachother so well

[mint void]

So there is this starter running arnd thats busted. Called incin. Wolfey rarely mentions it

Intim cook ray and clear amulet at least cancels out intimidate

[azure ether]

it's more storytelling than tutorial

[mint void]

YT yes. If you wanna learn u gotta go to patreon @grizzled island

[solid frigate]

if you want to learn VGC,someone like CybertronVGC,SkrawVGC

[grizzled island]

So um say I wanted to run a team with moridon what's the best suggestion for building a team with them

[azure ether]

James Baek too

[mint void]

stealing one

[grizzled island]

Tyty

[gentle crag]

feral_vll has given 1 Gen Rep to lnk1603

[solid frigate]

just run Arubega Miraidon

[mint void]

Mirai has mostly been solved ngl

[astral kelp]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2324303575-e5evxca2my417hojbknfowf15uxuc1vpw

god these games feel so hard

[grizzled island]

Arubega?

Never heard of it

[solid frigate]

Worlds Winning Miraidon team

[grizzled island]

Oh that's cool!

[astral kelp]

which is important because everyone and their mothers runs incineroar

[chrome knot]

arubega is a person

[molten oasis]

Arubega is an archetype we just named after the player

[mint void]

@grizzled islandin the pins there is a document with teams. You cna have a look there and see what was viable. There also info there for what the team achived and if it has a full paste with EVs

[solid frigate]

well if you are HO then Incin can be replaced by something like Ogerpon or Chi Yu or Entei

[chrome knot]

not an archetype , just a team😭

[mint void]

most popular team archetypes are named after the creator. Its really lazy. Sometimes the archetype name is included.

[grizzled island]

Id have to play violet again to make a whole other miridon lol

[mint void]

no

[molten oasis]

Oh, my bad

[astral kelp]

whats HO o-o

[azure ether]

why when you get 2 per game

[solid frigate]

can't you just use the Riding Miraidon for the rental team

[mint void]

u can change everything with caps and stuff

[molten oasis]

That’s what I got from talking to OTHER Mirai players

[molten oasis]

[solid frigate]

Hyper Offensive

[mint void]

u get 2 mirais per save AND as long as u dont care abt perfect stats for foulplay shit u are good with the one you have since you have the option to change everything

[grizzled island]

I saw a lady who fought wolf and she used um that giraffe pokemon and I think iron hands

[astral kelp]

icic

[mint void]

My mirai has never been hit with foul play so idk...

[solid frigate]

can i just do a Shameless Plugin on Tang Core Miraidon

[mint void]

farig. goated mon

Disliked it. Now im perma using it. its cool

[solid frigate]

but then again why would you hit Miraidon with Foul play lmao

[mint void]

yeah thats the point

wh otf would

farig hits harder with psychic anyway

[solid frigate]

unless its Tera Ghost,which it is relatively used in JP

[mint void]

maybe like Grimm if its out of options

[grizzled island]

Whats the Tera type to use for marirrdon

[mint void]

Fairy or Electric

some use Ghost

[grizzled island]

Fairy?

[solid frigate]

Fairy in general

Electric for Discharge

[solid frigate]

it learns a fairy spread move

[grizzled island]

Ahh

[mint void]

avoids dragon hits and powers up dazzling gleam. Good for the mirror

[solid frigate]

something that is rare for other dragon types

[mint void]

Dazzling gleam helps your staying power into mons like Bolt that would usually resist your electric moves or force u to go to -2 SpA with Draco

[grizzled island]

I saw a cool team on yt once where they used latios

[molten oasis]

When do we get a fairy dragon type

[foggy lodge]

Zama comps use it

[solid frigate]

Mega Altaria?

[azure ether]

already have

[foggy lodge]

But its not popular rn

It still has a niche tho

[solid frigate]

Keanu our GOAT

[mint void]

usable. gets neat util and can hit pretty decent into stuff like Amoonguss

[grizzled island]

I'm not good with names lol! Sadly got a medical memory problem 🥲 but it was sucha cool team to see

[solid frigate]

i saw a Latias in bham when i was chatting with my opponent before the match starts

[mint void]

A real one?

Sick

[molten oasis]

Okay mega Altaria sucks

[grizzled island]

I wish I could use berloom 🥲 i got gifted a shiny one and wanted to use it

[spiral ridge]

NEVERMIND I CAN

[molten oasis]

I meant a real one that we can use without a fucking mega

[mint void]

GOAT

[solid frigate]

4 months late

[grizzled island]

Sucks when ya get into stuff late

[azure ether]

maybe when we get REg H part 2

[mint void]

if reg H comes back(which I really want) you will be able to use it. It just needs a lower power format

[solid frigate]

i rather have Reg F rerun cuz Reg F feels Very complete and fun

[molten oasis]

Nobody asked for this format again

Sneasler meta got so old so fast

[mint void]

I do

[foggy lodge]

Could it be any of this ones?
https://pokepast.es/f0ff6398af514ef7
https://pokepast.es/76ced16154d053ff

[mint void]

like daily...

[grizzled island]

Sneasler?

[astral kelp]

jeez only 19 per win this is gonna take ages

[grizzled island]

Like the white one from legends

[molten oasis]

Sneasler has a move called dire claw

[mint void]

im ngl the abundance was boring but I never had issues with it

[foggy lodge]

fire claw

[molten oasis]

Shut

[dense latch]

you gotta get lucky with your pairings

[solid frigate]

how did they made a Regional format

more centralised than some formats

[molten oasis]

Dire claw can just sleep you t1

[azure ether]

yea I just tank it with support Electabuzz

[molten oasis]

It’s so lame and so annoying

[molten oasis]

That’s what got old

I played a lot of dengo but that got so boring

[foggy lodge]

Electabuzz was so cool for reg H

[mint void]

idc. I played so many fun teams that reg

[grizzled island]

Is alolan raichu any good in compet

[foggy lodge]

Its cool that it was also used for reg G

[azure ether]

can only get poisoned by redirected dire claw

[foggy lodge]

Not really

[astral kelp]

i tried :(

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/b5cd3d212dfc1411

This is probably my most unique reg H team,and thats the only team i did remarkbly best in reg H

[grizzled island]

Damn all my favs are horrible in compet 😭

[mint void]

raichu is ok. Alolan raichu is bad. Could be used with Mirai I guess as like a sup mon

[foggy lodge]

Miraidon + Raichu is funny

[mint void]

Fake tears fake out and what not

[solid frigate]

heck i am trying to make Greninja work in this Meta-

[foggy lodge]

But its just funny not really good

[dense latch]

rite of passage for every vgc player who doesn't adore incineroar

you'll start to like the pokemon you use in competitive

[grizzled island]

I like it's baby form

[azure ether]

thank god my fav is funny kung fu bear

[grizzled island]

Not the finally form

[solid frigate]

incin is aight,it was necessary on stopping Calyrexes which i respect

[shadow wind]

So glad my favourites are Incineroar, Rillaboom, Urshifu-Rapid strike, and Raging bolt !

[dense latch]

i started to really like regieleki bc it was so fun to use

[grizzled island]

I love that bear i just don't know how to use em 😭

[astral kelp]

you can win with anything if you play enough games :)))))

[shadow wind]

My kinda mindset

[mint void]

man u are in for a treat then

[foggy lodge]

I remember when I wasn't into VGC and was so happy when Wolfey won with Scream Tail because it always was my favorite paradox

[grizzled island]

I love walking wake

[solid frigate]

Groudon liked my twitter Post on talking about the dedication of Groudon players lmao

[dense latch]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2324310836-n14wrwkvy8gt2radncw25pisyainpj6pw haven't seen tang team in a while

[astral kelp]

urshifu kinda has like a preset set

[mint void]

u wont believe me when I tell u they are all really good @shadow wind

[shadow wind]

What??? No way they’re good right???

[astral kelp]

everyone always runs like the exact same set

[shadow wind]

😱😱😱

[mint void]

just fuck things up

[astral kelp]

surging, taunt, detect, close combat

[dense latch]

nahh they're hardly niche options

[solid frigate]

Wake is really darn solid ngl,i think it fits well as a Sun counter

[foggy lodge]

Scarf detect

[shadow wind]

Oh thank god

[dense latch]

why use incineroar when there's hitmontop right

[grizzled island]

I have booster on my walking

[foggy lodge]

🔥

[shadow wind]

I should use Walking wake

Groudon + Wake is super cool

[mint void]

Surging Strikes, Detect, Close Combat/Taunt, Aqua Jet/Close Combat/Taunt

[solid frigate]

i just slap Specs into Wake when its a sun team

[grizzled island]

Here's my walking wake

[dense latch]

this is something someone who just got shoes with roller wheels would say

[solid frigate]

i beat that team in the regional

[foggy lodge]

UWJAJDKD

[molten oasis]

I wanna play gdon Zac in reg I

So I get an excuse to run wake

[astral kelp]

do you ever go surging detect taunt aqua jet??

[shadow wind]

Relive the Gen 8 days

[molten oasis]

Fr

[tiny karma]

Move: Noble Roar

Lowers the target's Attack and Special Attack by 1 stage.

Type

Normal

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

30 (48)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Authentic

Bypasses substitute.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Reflectable

Affected by Magic Coat and Magic Bounce.

Sound

Does not affect Soundproof.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[dense latch]

aqua jet or taunt are both fine

[mint void]

was standard before tang team

[astral kelp]

thats crazy running urshifu without cc

[dense latch]

it's kinda common nowadays

[mint void]

I read that wrong

[foggy lodge]

MDB used it at worlds

Detect surging aqua jet substitute

[chrome knot]

i ran no cc ursh @ vanc, i just didnt have anything to hit it with lmao

[astral kelp]

i used to use aqua jet but i feel like taunt is just better

[foggy lodge]

I still prefer double stab Urshifu but the no CC ones have their niche

[astral kelp]

oh ig theres scarfshifu too

[mint void]

In teams that dont need more fighitng coverage like Zama u dont need that so you just run with util to beat that anoying shroom that zama doesnt like that much

[dense latch]

i dont click cc that much i've honestly considered dropping it

feel like im always clicking the funny water move

[astral kelp]

what if hear me out
water or grass type

[solid frigate]

Walking Wake @ Choice Specs
Ability: Protosynthesis
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Hydro Steam
• Flamethrower
• Draco Meteor
• Snarl

Walking Wake @ Booster Energy/Life Orb
Ability: Protosynthesis
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 4 HP / 4 Def / 244 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Hydro Steam
• Flamethrower
• Draco Meteor
• Protect

Run either Specs or Booster set

[grizzled island]

Isn't noble roar good to have?

[molten oasis]

Life orb good

[solid frigate]

i love being water pon food

[azure ether]

what if we go the terapagos route where Ursh just uses Surging and Sleep Talk

[molten oasis]

Not really

[mint void]

nah

[solid frigate]

that move sucks

[foggy lodge]

Its better to just go full offensive

[grizzled island]

🥲

[dense latch]

i dont really bring ursh into a team with waterpon anyways

[foggy lodge]

Damage control role can be filled by mons like Incineroar

[molten oasis]

Cool move in concept but yes we have incin

[dense latch]

also waterpon mid

[solid frigate]

i actually tried Specs when i was doing some shit with Zacian

[azure ether]

it's a worse Parting Shot

[mint void]

not popular enough to be scared

[foggy lodge]

Waterpon with CIR is cool

[grizzled island]

I want a shiny litten so even if i gotten use em at least mines a different colour

[molten oasis]

Shiny incin is pretty nice

[molten oasis]

Maybe my final project for reg g will be wake

[mint void]

I have 2 :)

[molten oasis]

Wake whimsi Zac felt fckn clunky tho

[mint void]

Both at the same time lol

[azure ether]

wake Ogre?

[chrome knot]

zac ogre pao

[grizzled island]

GIVE ME 🙏

[foggy lodge]

I'm proving Porygon2 is not washed with reg I

[mint void]

Not allowed soz

[grizzled island]

Team idea 🥲

Just kinda messing around wanna make my own tbh even tho I suck at compet ✨️💪

[solid frigate]

ok that looks somewhat better but Miraidon run Specs pls

[mint void]

Id suggest having a look at the repository here:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1axlwmzPA49rYkqXh7zHvAtSP-TKbM0ijGYBPRflLSWw/edit#gid=418553327

[azure ether]

well at leat you have the spirit

[grizzled island]

Whats specs do

[foggy lodge]

It has cute mons

[grizzled island]

You bet i do 💪✨️🫡

[solid frigate]

Lock first move but does 1.5x more spa

[mint void]

basically clam mind boost for only offense

[grizzled island]

Ooo

[mint void]

but no move

"swap"

[grizzled island]

So i get stuck using 1 move?

[foggy lodge]

Yes

[mint void]

unless u swap out yes

[next stump]

good luck in the GC anyone playing 🙂

[foggy lodge]

Until you switch out

[next stump]

battles just went live

[foggy lodge]

Then you can choose another move

[grizzled island]

Was going to say that sucks

[mint void]

will need it. I forgot some teras

[azure ether]

you're aware that we usually talk in VGC format right? because hardly nobody plays singles here

[solid frigate]

i took Tang spread too much

[next stump]

greninja

[grizzled island]

How many legendaries are u allowed to use?

[solid frigate]

the origin of my VGC name is returned

[foggy lodge]

That's why volt switch with Miraidon is so good because you just enter with Miraidon and can pivot with volt switch specs boosted to repositionate and then when Miraidon enters again you can sweep with another move like electro drift

[grizzled island]

I got that move on my guy

[solid frigate]

1 restricted Box art but otherwise no limits

[azure ether]

until the end of April, max 1 box legendary

[grizzled island]

Oo

[foggy lodge]

There are restricted legendaries and "normal" legendaries

[real prairie]

GL GC Gang

[solid frigate]

my team is officially revealed to everyone

[foggy lodge]

Ogerpon, Urshifu or Landorus are "normal" legendaries and mons like Koraidon Miraidon or Kyogre are restricted

Is better to look at the list of restricted legendaries because there is not really a way to say who is and who is not

[solid frigate]

already seeing Charm Whims and Acid Spray Overqwil

What the fuck

[foggy lodge]

Cosmog is considered a restricted and Regigigas a "normal" legendary

[mint void]

will send it to all my opponents so they can prep for you

[molten oasis]

Alr yall https://pokepast.es/75e8be758db25312 what do these 2 need

[solid frigate]

its literally Tang team but with Wrong water type-

[molten oasis]

Last project of the format

[mint void]

its litterally a joke

[foggy lodge]

Tailwind

[azure ether]

good ol Rilla Incin

[solid frigate]

Greninja got the first Kyogre Kill

my boi is cooking

[azure ether]

don't forget to stay hydrated during your GC runs all

[grizzled island]

Oo is white kyerm legal or good?

[mint void]

is legal

as a restricted

[foggy lodge]

Not very good tbh

[azure ether]

legal, yes. good, probably not

[grizzled island]

Aw damn

[solid frigate]

Niche Pick or Anti Meta imo

[foggy lodge]

Anti meta to who

[azure ether]

doesn't CIR just tear through it anyway?

[foggy lodge]

Yes

[solid frigate]

i won my first game against Kyogre

[foggy lodge]

And you boost it with your own snow

Because Kyurem is locked to snow blizzard spam

[solid frigate]

Greninja just tear away Kyogre with Grass Knot which is 120 BP against Kyogre

[molten oasis]

Eww

[molten oasis]

Hm, yea

[solid frigate]

@rose stump PLS GO EASY ON ME

[molten oasis]

But which setter

[solid frigate]

I AM FACING YOTAM

[mint void]

nah

[rose stump]

oh haha

glhf

[azure ether]

whims? torn?

[molten oasis]

Good luck Torrent

[solid frigate]

gl,nice team tho

[rose stump]

i think your MU is favored

[solid frigate]

yeah but you are one of the World champs lmao

first Jeudy now Yotam

I am fucked

[azure ether]

wait what we have actual celebs here?

[mint void]

u need a different approach to that

+you picked jeudy

[molten oasis]

Good opportunity to learn

I fought moxie once that was cool

[craggy dagger]

lmao

[solid frigate]

why does game hate me lmao

[molten oasis]

Hm

[spiral ridge]

damn aegis getting thrashed 😭

[solid frigate]

WHY THIS IS SO CLOSE

[azure ether]

is it joever

[mint void]

what are u running?

[solid frigate]

CSR

[chrome knot]

stinkyy

[solid frigate]

currently he down 2 i down only 1 mon

[mint void]

what do u usually lead into CSR?

prolly my suckiest MU still

[solid frigate]

Double Dark

[molten oasis]

Maybe torn instead of whimsi

I like the bulk of torn, and bleakwind is a funny move

[craggy dagger]

hi

[solid frigate]

so god damn close-

ggs Yotam

[craggy dagger]

man…
maybe i should have played GC

[rose stump]

ggs!

[solid frigate]

its Scarf Chi Yu-

[rose stump]

yeah its just my EUIC team lol

its public

[solid frigate]

if its any other than Scarf Chi Yu i win lmao

[rose stump]

you can find it on top cut explorer or victory road or whatever

[azure ether]

did you have a Chi-Yu moment?

[solid frigate]

yeah but that was one of my best matches i ever fought

It came down so close as well

[rose stump]

❤️

ggs!

[solid frigate]

Ggs

also Grass Knot Froggy moment

[rose stump]

that was a cool greninja set

[chrome knot]

haaiiii

[solid frigate]

i was suppose to be a restricted slayer,able to outspeed Slow Miraidons and also it just killeds Kyogre before your matches

[craggy dagger]

you doing okay today?

[solid frigate]

Rappa (Greninja) @ Choice Specs
Ability: Protean
Level: 50
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Hydro Pump
• Grass Knot
• Dark Pulse
• Ice Beam

[chrome knot]

yus

i brainstormed 2restricted, found a funny 6 then went to work

now im jus rotting in bedsies, maybe gonna watch frieren again soon cx

[craggy dagger]

ooo
nice nice

[chrome knot]

-# i sooo hooked on frieren

[craggy dagger]

i have to start frieren-
i told myself i would start a show but i still haven’t 😭

[chrome knot]

START IT

[craggy dagger]

-# i started reading frieren instead

[chrome knot]

WHAAAA

nooooo watch it watch it the animation is so pretty

[craggy dagger]

i’m more of a bookworm

[atomic mural]

https://pokepast.es/8cab08c5301a7c5a any ideas for last pokemon

[craggy dagger]

but yeah i’ll watch it for sure

[chrome knot]

you look the part teehee

[mint void]

whims

[azure ether]

farig?

[craggy dagger]

shut uppp

[atomic mural]

whims is already on the team

[foggy lodge]

probably farigiraf

[solid frigate]

i am gonna have a mental breakdown after i faced Yotam and Jeudy just this month alone

[foggy lodge]

Tho for arubega mirai CIR i would replace urshifu with CIR

[mint void]

have eye problems

[chrome knot]

that friend that lowkey want attention

but gj i proud of you :3

[solid frigate]

idc i do admit about that lmao

[chrome knot]

noo i mean in a good way ur a cute lil bean

[craggy dagger]

you’ll be fine

[foggy lodge]

I want GS Cup so bad now raaa

[craggy dagger]

experience against pro players
though didn’t you choose to fight Jeudy-

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/2f98f86afb431488 good core?

[solid frigate]

yeah but like somehow Yotam's Match feels way more fun that it needs to be

[craggy dagger]

i mean
it’s a good thing that it was fun was it not?

[grizzled island]

Can u use that darkness pokémon in compet? The one that eats the sun lion

[foggy lodge]

Necrozma?

[craggy dagger]

it looks fine but i’m guessing you’re okay with boosting fire moves

[foggy lodge]

Yeah but its not very good tbh

[solid frigate]

yeah it does feel fun

Curse you scarf Chi yu

[craggy dagger]

if it’s necrozma then yes you can, though it’s alright in the meta-
dawn wings was the most prominent i believe?

[grizzled island]

I need to do stupid group bbqs to get him ugh

[craggy dagger]

base necrozma is useless so i wouldn’t bother trying
-# i would know cuz i tried base necro in reg G wave 1

[molten oasis]

Ye

Can’t make wake work without sun

[craggy dagger]

you’ve got proto speed right

[molten oasis]

Ye

[craggy dagger]

yeah you should be fine then

[molten oasis]

I think last 2 spots should be supportive

Maybe one more offensive guy

[craggy dagger]

does walk need stab for flamethrower to do good damage?

[molten oasis]

No it’s good damage without Tera

[craggy dagger]

cuz i was gonna suggest tera fairy for any dragon type moves going into it
fairy or poison

fire is alright but i’m worried about your groudon MU
ignore me im dumb

[solid frigate]

can i label my team fought Yotam in GC and put it on my team doc

[mint void]

u asking or u saying u did?

[solid frigate]

can i do that tho

[mint void]

do it

[solid frigate]

i will forever hate scarf chi yu took my Glory

[craggy dagger]

don’t ask the chat 😭
but i think it’s fine?
depends on what Yotam might say though

[craggy dagger]

[mint void]

the chat may judge his actions so he may ask

[molten oasis]

I mean

[craggy dagger]

you’ve got wake i’m stupid lol

[molten oasis]

Groudon doesn’t like wake at all

lol

Hm, just debating on the other members

Maybe water hands

[craggy dagger]

bug

oh oh
single strike shifu

[bold geode]

Gives you lobotomy

[bold geode]

Helloing bestie

[craggy dagger]

scarf single strike doesn’t look too bad on that team
and a supportive flutter mane

[left bobcat]

Alright we are so back

[craggy dagger]

or you can do the proto speed specs set

[left bobcat]

I’ve had my closure now I’m back

[craggy dagger]

hiya!
hru doing this fine day

[left bobcat]

DO YOU HEAR ME WE ARE GONNA SUNSTEEL STRIKE IN THIS BIH

WITH WITH UMM UHHH URSH FOCUS SASH

[bold geode]

Alright
Did cleaning
Finishing up some stuff, gonna start GC games later tonight

[left bobcat]

AND TORN AND OGERPON AND UHHHH UMMMM CHIEN PAO

[solid frigate]

wait what is Yotam's Twitter

[craggy dagger]

goodluckkkk

i couldn’t build my team on time cuz i was broke 😭

[foggy lodge]

Stream it

[craggy dagger]

remind me to play sv more often

[foggy lodge]

I want to see you suffer

[bold geode]

Speaking of which
How we doing for GC chat
What's the records, what dumb shit we see

[bold geode]

So see
Good news is I can now cuz I have a capture card

[foggy lodge]

I forgot to put my team

[craggy dagger]

yotam and morris clashed

[mint void]

@solid frigate @bold geode

[molten oasis]

Flutter and single strike?

Why single strike?

[bold geode]

The bad news
The capture card is a $20 one from Walmart and the combo of cheap capture card + shitty laptop is so bad that my shit shows at like 15 FPS if we're more generous than Thanksgiving

[craggy dagger]

i think single strike wouldn’t be too bad
unseen pressure but also good into calydow and calyice

[molten oasis]

Ah, wouldn’t sash make more sense then?

[bold geode]

Like deadass I think a fucking ultrasound has more frames

[craggy dagger]

either or
i like scarf cuz it allows me to outspeed dkiss calydow

[bold geode]

So Max I can but fair warning, shit is gonna look jank AF

[craggy dagger]

flutter might be a bit wonky though

[solid frigate]

i did post that on twitter lmao

https://x.com/TorrentAegisVGC/status/1902883642197627142

TorrentAegisVGC/Morris (@TorrentAegisVGC) on X

So i accidentally fought @_yotam_ in this Global Challenge and honse away with the match

GGs tho,hopefully i can encounter you in the future!(Even tho we did said that in chat)
#PokemonVGC #Calyrex #worldchampion #YotamVGC

X · Mar 21, 2025, 12:43 AM

[molten oasis]

I think I’m down for shifu but maybe smth else for flutter

https://pokepast.es/25cba5db8c2148bb

Probably a support piece there

Mirai seems annoying ngl

[azure ether]

Incin?

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/92ac3a22d1518a20 or I need anti tr

[foggy lodge]

Indeedee

[azure ether]

or Farig

[solid frigate]

can someone refresh my brain

[real prairie]

I just faced a bright powder CSR, thank fuck I encored it into protect because that shit is scary

[craggy dagger]

boop

[azure ether]

https://tenor.com/view/keyboard-hyperx-rgb-hyperx-family-hyperx-gaming-gif-17743647

[left bobcat]

Refreshing

Lemonade 🍋

[solid frigate]

i faced against Acid Spray Overqwil and Charm Whimsicott won that set,Faced against Caly geezing Dnite Spam,won that as well

And then i fought against Yotam the world champ

[left bobcat]

Bleh

[azure ether]

you wanna take a break?

[solid frigate]

Refreshing in 30 Minutes

[real prairie]

Fun stuff! I won too thankfully but that could have been scary

[gentle crag]

oneofakindof has given 1 Gen Rep to morrispxg456

[real prairie]

Bright powder CSR on a muk smeagle team is cancer

[solid frigate]

i could've won if its not Scarf Chi yu moment

so its pretty close imo

[craggy dagger]

[real prairie]

That was just a ladder game, not even started GC, learnt from last time not the play tried 🤣

[molten oasis]

Indeedee?

I have no eforce user

[foggy lodge]

And why would you need it

Anti fake out + follow me + terrain

You could go tera ground Indeedee

[left bobcat]

The crown

[molten oasis]

I already have follow me

[foggy lodge]

ok but does having another one damages your team

[solid frigate]

Crown is fucking goated

except the psyspam mode

thhat thing sucked,and dampens the damage it can truly show

[lament frigate]

yo is there a way to unregister from a vgc regional tournament?

[foggy lodge]

Some should have it

There must be something in rk9 about it

[molten oasis]

Uh, man idk

Most teams that have indeedee have an eforce abuser

[next stump]

you can contact the tournament organizer via email and usually get a partial or full refund

what regional?

[lament frigate]

Swedish regional

[molten oasis]

I think the mon is best with eforce spammers so I don’t get it without eforce spammers

[lament frigate]

ive fallen sick and cannot attend sadly

[next stump]

oooo yeah you’re not gonna get a refund I don’t think due to the timing of it

[lament frigate]

well frick

[next stump]

but even if you’re registered and no show, they’ll drop you after a round

you can always try, send a message or email to the organizer

[solid frigate]

Dillon Hold me

I need to refresh after losing (So close) to Yotam and Jeudy in this month

[left bobcat]

The mursic

[chrome swallow]

insane trick room support, w psych terain ur safe from fake out, follow me plus sash makes the trick room setter untouchable

[next stump]

yoooo shoutout yotam

[mint void]

Sash?

[chrome swallow]

focus sash

[mint void]

Havent seen an indeedee run sash yet + he is running Groudon Zacian so idk how much TR does for him

[chrome swallow]

oh shit

[solid frigate]

Scarf Chi Yu fucking ruined my match lmao

[chrome swallow]

well than what is purpose of indedee? better supports out there for those legendaries to set up

[solid frigate]

tho Greninja did drop Shifu down to sash

[molten oasis]

Sash?

That’s, mm

[mint void]

@chrome swallow expanding force support for calrex. Denies Prio(its biggest issue) and sets up terrain for eforce + follow me for set up

[chrome swallow]

im ngl, wolfe is onto something crazy. Smeargle with spore, fake out, decorate and follow me using focus sash is insane support

[mint void]

Nothing new bro

[mint void]

Where 8s he us8ng that?

[chrome swallow]

ik, but if hey is looking for support for zacian i dont see why not

[chrome swallow]

random torney he entered, search it up

[mint void]

Old or recent?

[azure ether]

is this the Zacian for reg G set or for Reg I

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/f6348d96768a9967 welp, if I go with this I don’t generally like Deedee here, but idk

[mint void]

@molten oasis maybe torkoal? Bit wild but sets sun for wake and would be of assistance in TR

[chrome swallow]

j search up: I entered a tornament with smeargle😭

all bro vids start like that

[mint void]

Not great but cant think of sth better rn

[mint void]

Nah dont care enough

[chrome swallow]

i been using ninetales hidden ability, much faster mon

and still sets sun

[mint void]

A lot frailer and awkward speed zier for this reg

+hits like a dry towel

A wet one actually hurts

[solid frigate]

Pool Noodle<Wet Towel<Nuke

[mint void]

What's ur line into CSR rn?

[azure ether]

would Zac Farig force CSR to tera fairy?

[mint void]

Idk ngl. I think its goid into it probs cause Behemoth Blade+Foul Play just always kill

-tera water but

[craggy dagger]

dry ones hurt too

you just gotta use it properly

[molten oasis]

I’d need tr

Torkoal doesn’t work unless it’s pure support and even then it’s eh

[craggy dagger]

also manual sun is fine

[molten oasis]

Shifu

Wake kinda

[solid frigate]

bro wa-

[craggy dagger]

you know i’m right-

[molten oasis]

Not really

Shifu does but Zac has to be positioned very well and not have to deal with incin

[bold geode]

@mint void you playing rn?

Kyogre Dozo?

[left bobcat]

Too much fish

[chrome swallow]

have u ever tried regidrago w zacian?

[molten oasis]

The point of wake is that it’s the focus

[chrome swallow]

u tryna focus on wake?

[molten oasis]

I’m not playing 2 dragons, and drago feels kinda eh to me

[molten oasis]

Yes, the teams built around it

[chrome swallow]

so u using zacian to counter wake weeknesses?

[mint void]

No

Not a weirdo

We hate Dozo

[bold geode]

Oh
Different Link then

[mint void]

Link is quite popular with Nintendo so uh there are a few with similar stuff probs(I have nothing to do with Zelda Link)

[molten oasis]

Yea

Wake and Zac cover eachother pretty well

[solid frigate]

i did told you before lmao

But yeah its suprisingly solid

[bold geode]

Welp
At least I got one dub

[chrome swallow]

problem is u have no ability weather setter, and weather is so unreliable rn, weather trio is back, white kyurem been seen w snow teams, i personally think u should focus on zacian, and use wake as a combo for him since they match well

because u depend on weather for wake to work

[mint void]

Weather setters arent crazy OP.rn and even then Manual weather is great to counter those

Sunny day solves Ogre AND groudon because if Wake

[chrome swallow]

koraidon, groundon, kyogre, white kyurem w ninetails, even rayquaza

[mint void]

Hydro Steam specifically

[chrome swallow]

so much weather involved in this regulation

[mint void]

Kyurem and Rayquaza see barrly any usage

[mint void]

Manual weather is great inti weather setters

[chrome swallow]

true but still possibilities, and doesn't change the fact rain is everywhere

[mint void]

Which Torn has

[mint void]

...manual weather

[chrome swallow]

w tornadus abusing wind attacks such as his unique move and hurricane

[chrome swallow]

but what happens if ur pokwmon dies?

w ability u only need to switch in and out

[mint void]

What happens if theirs dies?

[chrome swallow]

they can switch out, its hard to not predict a double up on a mon

[mint void]

Its how the game works. Protect ur win con + its not like this team auto.loses to.rain

[chrome swallow]

u have to have at least manual weather on 2 mons than, waste of move possibilities

[mint void]

No u dont

[chrome swallow]

not saying that, im j saying the win con depends on weather

wake is not standing on shit wothout the weather

[mint void]

Forcing a Ogre to swap out simply to reset weather is great. It gives u an advantage just based on move usage since they have to switch twice

[left bobcat]

Walking sleep

[mint void]

And while that happens u gurantee ur weather for 2 turns

[mint void]

Benefits from rain and sun

[left bobcat]

But mostly sun

[chrome swallow]

w tera blast and tera water?

[left bobcat]

Just use Tera fiyahhh

[azure ether]

Hydro Steam is boosted in both weathers

[chrome swallow]

but than thunder or duradon or wtv that new thing is erases wake

duradon specific move*

[left bobcat]

What

Thunder doesn’t wipe out wake

[foggy lodge]

Is neutral damage

[craggy dagger]

wake zac valiant

[azure ether]

do reg G rain teams even run Arch?

[foggy lodge]

And Archaludon is like

[left bobcat]

Barely

[foggy lodge]

Super niche for this reg

[craggy dagger]

some do but not a lot

[foggy lodge]

Kyogre Archaludon Basculegion got top 32 at EUIC

It was only one team so yeah its super niche

[molten oasis]

What happened while I was gone

[chrome knot]

@craggy dagger do you have a shiny zacian for me 👉👈

[foggy lodge]

Idk I saw Archaludon conversation

[molten oasis]

I saw arguments with the wake stuff

[mint void]

Read it idk. Nothing important ngl

[molten oasis]

Mk

[left bobcat]

But what if we were sleep

[foggy lodge]

Walking Wake was a dream this whole time

[left bobcat]

Why be wake when we could just sleep

[foggy lodge]

Never real

[molten oasis]

Uh, anyway https://pokepast.es/97ed9828d82085a3 my thought for the last couple spots are like, single shifu, incin, amoongus, Fari, hands, maybe bolt, and like pao

[left bobcat]

THE DREAM IS FALLING

[azure ether]

why stop at wake when you can go straight to funeral

[chrome swallow]

to use wake in rain is better tera water and tera blast

[left bobcat]

No

[chrome swallow]

and that gets sweeped by electric moves

u using his signature move in the rain?

[azure ether]

Hydro Steam is literally better

[foggy lodge]

Tera blast tera water??

[left bobcat]

Both in sun and rain

[azure ether]

yea why not it's still a water move

[foggy lodge]

On walking wake?

[left bobcat]

Wait yall are confusing me

[chrome swallow]

on rain? than tera blast tera water?

[chrome swallow]

hell no

[foggy lodge]

I think you are confused

[left bobcat]

I think you are the one confused my friend ☝️🤓

[foggy lodge]

Hydro steam doesn't get nerfed on rain it just works like every water move

[craggy dagger]

um
why…?

[azure ether]

Hydro Steam is literally a water move that gets boosted in both rain and sun

[foggy lodge]

Its gimmick is that it also gets boosted in sun