competitive_discussion

[real prairie]

I may be tempted to go iron ball hard TR kyogre with Miraidon in double restricted

[molten oasis]

lol

valid

i mean kyogre was good when CSR was also good

[real prairie]

basically Arubega with a whale

[molten oasis]

bolt makes it harder for it, and mirai

but thats what the dog is for

this duo makes too much sense i cant not run it

[astral kelp]

whats arubega?

[molten oasis]

a player

its his archetype of mirai teams

i think

[real prairie]

a player that made a miraidon team that just became an Archetype

you've seen the team plenty

[molten oasis]

think its the hearth hands whimsi fari stuff

yea its the worlds team

oh, tahts what needs help

hearthflame/korai sucks for this team

zac cant hit hearth and kyogre doesnt wanna be infront of it

[molten oasis]

yea that

thats an entire archetype lol

we just call it arubega

[real prairie]

scarf ogre DGAF about Hearth LOL

[astral kelp]

oh thats why i see that literally like every game

[molten oasis]

true but uh, i like not scarf

[real prairie]

i know im teasing.

[cyan smelt]

uh, landorus?

[molten oasis]

if it got flip turn i'd be more willing to try it but it fucking doesnt and mirai gets volt switch

[real prairie]

could go tera fire Kyogre with Zacian

[molten oasis]

i was thinking a dragon or probably torn

[cyan smelt]

doesn't lando sludge bomb ko

[molten oasis]

lando's slower, i mean i guess that works but i'd like a resist

plus a lot of teams with hearth have anti lando things like pao and scarf shifu

or CIR

[cyan smelt]

tera water

[molten oasis]

tera water? infront of hearth?

[real prairie]

i guess amoongus is your safe switch into grass attacks

[molten oasis]

shifu hearth just pins you

[astral kelp]

hearth is kind of a crazy mon

[molten oasis]

i plan amoonguss

so like, zac kyogre amoonguss

cant redirect grass attacks but its nice for tr teams

and just, generally good mon

probably want an anti lando mon wow scarf would solve half of these huh

[real prairie]

i had a soak strat for that for a while but it was so demanding

[molten oasis]

idk scarf seems so linear

[real prairie]

and tera basically ruins type change moves

[molten oasis]

yea

[real prairie]

going fast usually is

[molten oasis]

i'd like a balance team

i like av and no choice items for flexiblity

the more flexible the mon is the better for me

bolt could be fun

anti korai/hearth tool

helps with tornshifu as well

[real prairie]

think walking wake could be decent for Koraidon MUs

[molten oasis]

which idt kyogre likes either cuz rain boosted SS hurt

wake could be cool

i think the play into korai tho is pressuring with zac and getting him with kyogre

or just knocking it out with play rough

[astral kelp]

i feel like im using wake wrong

[molten oasis]

wake is usually an offensive sun mon

[astral kelp]

never feels like it does anything

[molten oasis]

wake gdon zac is pretty fun

wake is kind of a fake mon even though it seems really good on paper

it kinda sucks cuz its one of my favorite mons

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 1009: Walking Wake

Types

Water/Dragon

Abilities

Protosynthesis

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

99/83/91/125/83/109

Total

590

Sableye version 4.28.1

[astral kelp]

i thin this was the team

[molten oasis]

like those are, really good stats

wtf is that

yanmega in reg g is crazy

[real prairie]

Gravity hypnosis BS

[molten oasis]

oh yk, lunala gets A LOT better in double res

[astral kelp]

yeah wide guard and being so tanky

[molten oasis]

dark or ghost type to pressure nala/CSR would be nice

moon doesn't sound bad here

[astral kelp]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2322236605

[molten oasis]

theres 4 spots i dont have to think that hard about this

[astral kelp]

damn yanmega kinda pops off godam

[molten oasis]

hands amoonguss could be a solid defensive backbone

bolt or hands

[real prairie]

if you are going balance, i feel Rillacin is probably likely?

[molten oasis]

:/

i mean, yea

no redirect/amoongus and rilla sounds kinda rough tho

[real prairie]

Rillacin, Amoonguss, Zacian, Ogre leaves you 1 spot

[molten oasis]

no speed control

[real prairie]

So Farig 🙃

[molten oasis]

that sounds kinda rough into sun

mostly like, korai CSR or lunala

[real prairie]

Torn also an option

[astral kelp]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2322239783
man this team is so fun

[molten oasis]

god

[real prairie]

if you are going torn though, feel Scarfshifu torn makes more sense

[molten oasis]

SWSH was all fucking incin rilla

[astral kelp]

so is SV lmao

[molten oasis]

not nearly as much like

incin is on like 80% of teams in swsh

and theres like, no shifu anywhere

i dont think thats the right direction to look

ik i play balance going incin rilla feels like such a cop out

that kinda gives me only 1 real way to handle korai and i feel like flutter korai could be kinda brutal

[real prairie]

flutter could be the final choice then

sash flutter with TR and Icywind

[real prairie]

if you were to go with this:

[molten oasis]

yea but idk if im going rillacin route

torn would probably be best with that tho

rely on ogre/zac for damage is fine

i'll put that in the builder

https://pokepast.es/35dbff8615390372

[real prairie]

@molten oasis https://pokepast.es/e792ac742bf03965

[molten oasis]

hearth with kyogre?

[real prairie]

after a tera, it still does good damage

basically negates the rain with a +1

[molten oasis]

i guess

[real prairie]

equally, MUs you want Hearth you probably don't want Ogre

[molten oasis]

fair point

[real prairie]

that team is basically a Zacian team with Regidrago replaced with Kyogre

which being honest, offer similar

[molten oasis]

yea

they're similar mons

in a way

i'll try those ty

[astral kelp]

Regidrago my beloved

[real prairie]

i hate playing these random teams: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2322246933

[astral kelp]

KYUREM BLACK

that guy is so fucking based

imagine how good kyurem black woudld be if it was like dragon and eletric

[mint void]

Still super mid into incin

But yeah...kinda unfort. I think a move pool that is a little better would already fix them up a lot

[astral kelp]

he could just be a fusion bolt bot

but yeahhhh movepool is so shit

[mint void]

How is reshirams best move 130 BP Fire Type Hydropump but CSR has whatever Astralbarrage is supposed to be

[mint void]

With stab yes

No stab sucks

[astral kelp]

yeah agree

istg the only reason at all why kyurems arent good is ice type

like ice type being shit defensively specifically

[mint void]

Nah. Zhe movepools just arent that great either compared to the other legends

[astral kelp]

170 atk/spa tho

[mint void]

90 spe tho

[astral kelp]

ahh thats true

akward as fuck speed tier

[mint void]

White Kyurem would be good if it didn't need snow for consistency

[astral kelp]

with the a9 team kyu-white is usuallty pretty tanky

ive been tryin lol

[mint void]

Its so incredibly meh

[astral kelp]

kyurem is kind of a unit tho

like he KILLS

[mint void]

Imma go run Kyurem to MB on cart but that is gonna be it

[astral kelp]

that sentence went completely over my head lol

[mint void]

Kyurem, Ninetales, Flutter/Eleki and some other stuff. Probably just fwg

[mighty stump]

Kyumid

[astral kelp]

fwg????

flutter is really good

[real prairie]

Hi @mighty stump hows it cooking?

[astral kelp]

great way to deal with csr

the main thing that kinda fucks me is how akward kyurem is speed wise

He's like mostly a tánky csr

[mint void]

Fire water grass...doesnt work tho

[mighty stump]

nothing just getting in my daily quota of hating

[astral kelp]

Oh right Ic

[mint void]

Tsareena just sucks imo and I want anti prio

[mint void]

Feel welcome zo hate

[astral kelp]

Wait maybe the last pokemon for this team should be chi yu

[mint void]

Thats why we do it

[real prairie]

i love Tsareena lol

she slaps up mons

[mint void]

I know. Im sorry

Ok so the current draft sucks

https://pokepast.es/12b5542d87f1c7d2

[astral kelp]

oo i kinda wanna play a draft league that sounds fun

[astral kelp]

sounds about right

i havent really considered not going specs kyurem

lol maybe i should adjust this set

my thoughtline is that 90speed in tailwind outspeed most things and if they have tailwind im not gonna ouspeed anyways so might as well just invest into hp

[mint void]

Probably could be

[real prairie]

strange question, but anyone know the movie that the "Kingslayer14" quote is from?

[mint void]

U got a clip?

[astral kelp]

i dont think its a movie

[real prairie]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/yKaIdBnevK4

the voice is a famous comedy actor, i remember the scene, i just cant find it

[mint void]

I have not used that name in years. ?

That one?

[real prairie]

yeah

[mint void]

Google returns nothing but a similar obi wan quote

[real prairie]

yeah, i know the actor but cant put my finger ont he name. its someone like Danny Mcbride, that sort of comedy actor

[astral kelp]

dyt chi-yu or fluttermane

[mint void]

I cant find anything

[mint void]

Lazy evs

Flutter cause Icy Wind or thunderwave for speed control

[astral kelp]

i aqm terrible at eving

its so bad lmao

[mint void]

Is the flutter supposed to be attack booster?

[astral kelp]

its not

oh wait thats a dfifferent flutter than the one im using

im using icy wind i just wanted to try tera stellar tera blast to one shot tera fairy csr lol

[mint void]

Speed is right right?

Cause thats a lotta investment in spA

[astral kelp]

yea its 1 more point

[mint void]

So I omega lose to ogre

[astral kelp]

i guess so

[mint void]

Imma try mirror coat farig for that idk

[tiny karma]

Move: Mirror Coat

Deals damage to the last opposing Pokemon to hit the user with a special attack this turn equal to twice the HP lost by the user from that attack. If the user did not lose HP from the attack, this move deals 1 HP of damage instead. If that opposing Pokemon's position is no longer in use and there is another opposing Pokemon on the field, the damage is done to it instead. Only the last hit of a multi-hit attack is counted. Fails if the user was not hit by an opposing Pokemon's special attack this turn.

Type

Psychic

Category

Special

Power

0

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

20 (32)

Priority

-5

Move Flags

​

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[astral kelp]

lol what

ig urshifu kinda kills him

oh wait for your version yes

cooked

i feel like youll miss tailwind tbh

tailwinmd aurora veil so good

[mint void]

https://pokepast.es/66468e1283b03ea6

Sorry to curse u with this

[mint void]

nuh uh

I hate the snow reliance too much

I cant

[astral kelp]

its not that much of a reliance tbh

its not like kyurem explodes without it

[mint void]

blizzard

[astral kelp]

ah true

[mint void]

misses

I hate this Chat CD

[astral kelp]

ikr its like why

theres like max 3 people active at any time here

[mint void]

nahhhh

[astral kelp]

btw why tera fairy rilla boom?

[mint void]

I see the point. There are bad people that would spam if it was possible

[mint void]

idk man

to dodge draco from Mirai

[astral kelp]

LOL thats so random but ig it makes sense

since rilla is like only there as a mirai counter

[mint void]

to -2 it with drum

[astral kelp]

bro tornados is like so essential in kyurem

[mint void]

Only way im running it is over Ninetales

[astral kelp]

idk if i could make it work without it

so the speed control plan is drum breating icy wind

ig that makes sense

[mint void]

or TR

but im dropping Kyurem...tried it a few times. I just dont like playing it

[astral kelp]

rip fair enough

instantly
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2322294559

coil milotic is kinda crazy

double coil into hypnosis haha

[tiny karma]

Move: Coil

Raises the user's Attack, Defense, and accuracy by 1 stage.

Type

Poison

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

20 (32)

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Snatch

Affected by Snatch.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[real prairie]

missed a 99% Triple axel... made up for it with a triple protect: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2322298902

back to 1500

[azure ether]

beautiful pivoting

ICANT

[real prairie]

?

[azure ether]

I'd have walked into that barrage

[real prairie]

lol

[chrome knot]

doin tricks on it

[astral kelp]

man if csr nasty plots for free like 80% of the time its an insta loss

[mint void]

yeah its rought to live +2 HH Astral

[astral kelp]

plus hes so fucking fast

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 898: Calyrex-Shadow

Types

Psychic/Ghost

Abilities

As One (Spectrier)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/85/80/165/100/150

Total

680

Base Species

Calyrex

Sableye version 4.28.1

[astral kelp]

150 speed is just illegal

[solid frigate]

nah its not

[left bobcat]

I’m sorry

[chrome knot]

no regieleki is not a valid comparison

[solid frigate]

its not that illegal if you think about it

[astral kelp]

nah guys deoxys speed outspeeds it

[solid frigate]

and other deoxys forms but that is not in VGC

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 386: Deoxys

Type

Psychic

Abilities

Pressure

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

50/150/50/150/50/150

Total

600

Other Formes

Deoxys-Attack, Deoxys-Defense, Deoxys-Speed

Sableye version 4.28.1

[astral kelp]

lmao electrode is so fasty

[chrome knot]

mods sucker punch this man

[astral kelp]

You forget he's so fast cuz he's a fucking

O R B

[solid frigate]

lmfao

[solid frigate]

nobody would forget about it?

[astral kelp]

I did :3

[chrome knot]

i never knew tbh

[astral kelp]

Tbf that's literally all he has going for him

[chrome knot]

it blows up

insane auto correct reach LMFAO

[astral kelp]

I bought a new frying pan and it's fucking exploring help

Exploding

[mint void]

HOW

[astral kelp]

THERES OIL EVERYWHERE

i tried to cook pork belly

[mint void]

What heat did u put it on

[astral kelp]

i think this pan just heats up like 10x faster than my normal pan lmao

this is why you pay attention while cooking kids

[craggy dagger]

😭

[astral kelp]

yknow what im realizing

zekrom is probably better than kyurem black \

this still shocks me

maybe we run tailwind just to jumpscare opp

name a more annoying 2 words

ehhh idk im not really feeling this

wtf do i even run here

[mint void]

Not zekrom

[left bobcat]

I need some water

[left bobcat]

I tried zekrom it’s not worth it

[craggy dagger]

choice specs zekrom

[azure ether]

scale shot

[astral kelp]

i considered ity

[astral kelp]

yea thats what im thinking lmao

[astral kelp]

ehhhhhhhhhhhhh

[astral kelp]

ig thats kinda the onlyu thing it DOES have going for it

[azure ether]

also tera rock still retains your ground weakness

[craggy dagger]

[astral kelp]

yeah

wait did i not change it to flying

[astral kelp]

oh nvm

[left bobcat]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Dun6dB2Pm7Q&feature=shared

Bro missed bolt strike 4 times

[mint void]

its so sad that the D tier restricted are basically just obstacles

@astral kelpu wanna have a look at a draft league?

[astral kelp]

For sure tmrw it's like 4am here

[mint void]

thats not how a draft league works bruv.

Its usually a multi day tourney type thing with teams and a draft day

Its kinda a commitment

[astral kelp]

Imma be real no clue how they work other than you draft pokemon

Oh really that's kinda awesome

[mint void]

Only doubles right?

[astral kelp]

How does it work do I have to like sign up and get accepted or something

[mint void]

Like VGC ruleset?

[astral kelp]

Preferably lol I know nothing about singles

[mint void]

depends I guess.

[astral kelp]

Hha can't wait to suck at this it will be grey

Great lmao

[scenic yacht]

Does anyone know about EV training? I’ve just done it for the first time and would like to do if i’ve done it properly.

[mint void]

draft leagues are fun ngl

[mint void]

yeah

[astral kelp]

It will be nice to not see the same 4 mons every game

[mint void]

everyone here does

[astral kelp]

Plus seeing so many new strategies

We know incin getting insta picked lmao

[mint void]

u can DM me abt it if you wanna check up your EVs

or check pins for resources on EVing

[astral kelp]

Anyways gotta sleep gn my man

[mint void]

.

[mint void]

good one

[scenic yacht]

okay, i’ve just EV trained a level 100 timid nature (nature mint) Flutter Mane that’s been hyper trained. I was meant to assign 252 special attack, 252 speed and 4HP.

The stats for it are:

HP: 252
Sp. Atk: 368
Sp. Def: 306
Speed: 405
Defense: 146
Attack: 131

[scenic yacht]

thank you!

[gentle crag]

realcobrastar has given 1 Gen Rep to lnk1603

[scenic yacht]

i’ve dm’d you. I thought I did it right initially, but then I tried assigning another feather and it worked so obviously I didn’t fully assign my EVs, so then I read up on resetting with berries, so i’ve tried to do that - but as it doesn’t tell you how many you’ve assigned and where, i’m unsure

[mint void]

do you know abt showdown and how much EVs a Vitamin/feather assignes?

a mon can only use 508 EVs

[scenic yacht]

yeah, i’ve just gone through all of that and tried it for the first time with my flutter mane

[mint void]

but can get 510 EVs actually

[scenic yacht]

I thought it was 528 EVs, and you can assign like 252 MAX for two stats and then you have 4 left over

I DM’d you the charts of my pokemon

The speed stat on the EV is sparkling now, whereas before I used the berries to reset it and assign the last EVs again (or tried to), it was special attack sparkling

[mint void]

u are missing a few EVs iin SPA

[scenic yacht]

I just want to check that i’ve done it right

[scenic yacht]

I think all EVs are fully assigned. Those stats are not correct for what I was going for (max special attack, max speed, 4 in HP)?

[mint void]

max should be 369

do you know about showdown?

[scenic yacht]

i used to play a bit in 2016 with my autistic friend, I haven’t been on it since then apart from watching battles on youtube.

Oh my god

Are you saying I can go on showdown and have a look?

[mint void]

you can create teh mons there to see the final stats with the amount of EVs you want for them

[scenic yacht]

I just had a lightbulb moment when you said that 😂😂

Thank you!

How do I go about checking?

[mint void]

just create a team. Pick the mon give it the right nature and EVs you want. The final stat is shown afterwards so you cna compare

[scenic yacht]

if it doesn’t align, can we DM and you can help me with what to do to fix it?

[mint void]

if you have 252 / 252/4 its easy to fix

sure yeah

[scenic yacht]

I thought I did fix it but they’ve made this so unreasonable obscured 😭😭😭 how hard would it be to tell you the values you’ve assigned

[mint void]

Just make sure one of hte stats is sparkling. Reset all irrelevant and the 4 EVs stat to 0 and add 4 EVs back if you think you could have messed up there and then just pump everything into the final stat.

[scenic yacht]

hi, i’ve looked up

i’ll dm you

there’s a discrepancy of ONE on the special attack - mine is 368 and showdown says 369

chatgpt says that this is due to a rounding error, is this correct?

[solid frigate]

How to trigger Lyco in under 5 seconds

[scenic yacht]

Is a rounding error/difference a thing between showdown and pokemon scarlet/violet?

[slim urchin]

https://pokepast.es/07b191078299365e

Masterball tier top 1k with this fun team

[mint void]

no

Are ur IVs maxed?

if EVs are maxed check these

[scenic yacht]

Yes, it’s all hyper trained.

[mint void]

is the SpA sparkling?

[scenic yacht]

So what do I do? i’ve sent you the images of my pokemon, and the showdown thing in DM. There’s a discrepancy of one.

[scenic yacht]

Speed is sparking.

Special attack was sparking before I undid the EV training a bit with berries and reassigned.

[mint void]

good for you

[slim urchin]

Thanks!

[mint void]

do u only play Cart ladder?

[slim urchin]

I play competitive on violet. Idk what cart ladder is

[scenic yacht]

big thank you to @mint void thank you so much! We figured it out

[gentle crag]

realcobrastar has given 1 Gen Rep to lnk1603

[mint void]

Cartridge @slim urchin

[slim urchin]

ohhh I see. Yeah, I mostly play that. I am playing in the tournament that is scheduled for friday and had locked in my main team for that. I just threw together this team and been killing it

However, Indeed and farigraf are the WORST lol

[charred saddle]

one farigiraf and

i mean with indeedee u have rilla to play around

• uturn

[slim urchin]

Thats true. My main strat revolves around getting a swords dance up with Rayquaza and then protecting him and letting him OHKO everybody else on the enemy team

[charred saddle]

but for fari

[slim urchin]

Fari gets one hit with dragon decent after a SD.. just have to protect him with RP from ammonguss

[mint void]

That Rayquaza has more than 2 moves

[charred saddle]

ascent*

even with max max fari?

[slim urchin]

yes.. gotta time the chien-pao switch in with it as well

[bold geode]

Wassup fuckers

[charred saddle]

hmm feels kinda tight for that

[bold geode]

How we doin

[slim urchin]

It takes a lot of outplay for sure

[charred saddle]

i mean technically u could also have like crunch/throat chop on chienpao and have a better MU against indee/fari

[bold geode]

May God have mercy on your soul

[charred saddle]

swap sacred out ig

also why fairy tera on amoonguss?

just a bit curious

[bold geode]

I'd use Throat Chop for like one niche specific reason
Incineroar

[charred saddle]

i mean itll prob catch opp bolt doing draco to it

[slim urchin]

Honestly, its just the tera from a raid. I didnt want to train it or anything like that. Never tera'd him once in my run

[bold geode]

You can Throat Chop it before it hurls obscenities and retreats

[slim urchin]

99% of the time, its tera normal Ray. He OHKO everybody after swords dance

[charred saddle]

feel amoonguss could have a much better tera with fire/water

but eh

[mint void]

fairy is a good defensive type

[charred saddle]

or even dark tera for taunts

[bold geode]

I'm actually having the biggest toss up rn bout that

[mint void]

it has a fair usage

[charred saddle]

well yeah no shit

i didnt say fairy is bad

[bold geode]

I think you probably want Water or Fire tbh

Cuz your worst MU in general here tbh is gonna be like
Zamazenta

[charred saddle]

i mean if its working out for you, then no worries about it

[slim urchin]

Youre probably right. I just never thought about changing it because I never tera'd him a single time in about 50 games

[charred saddle]

im just curious on that

• most raging bolt would draco metoer on it

or miraidons

so its technically not that bad

[slim urchin]

Raq with one SD up 100-0 both with Extreme speed tera normal

If ammonguss dies, then I will have chien-pao in that basically one taps any dragon types

tbh - hardest matchups have been killing farigraf quick enough to keep Rayquaza safe. physic terrain isnt too hard to deal with. Ice spinner or grassy terrain makes that easy to deal with

[lost sun]

does koffing prevent terapogos from changing into it's 2nd form

[dense latch]

no

[visual summit]

Hi guys i wonder if someone could recommend what pokemon i should place at the 6th place (my whole team is shiny and i would love if the recommendation matched the on going pink-purple-blue scheme)
1.Mienshao
2.Lycanroc (midday form)
3.Whimsicott
4.Galarian Slowking
5.Froslass

[charred saddle]

if it does, its broken as fuck

[lost sun]

kyogre

[charred saddle]

imagine having a single mon to counter a restricted

[visual summit]

Can't really do that since i only have pokemon violet and it's dlc

[lost sun]

dlc is deffo worth it tbh

I used kyogre and whimsicot and it got me into the highest rank

[charred saddle]

i mean is this reg G or just for game playthrough

for game playthrough just have anything u want/love

if its reg G the whole team is weird

[slim urchin]

isnt iron valiant (sp) shiny blue

[lost sun]

silver and pink

all violet paradox shinys are silver iirc

[mint void]

what is this for

[visual summit]

It's for regular game playthrough i just don't know what pokemon i should put to cover some of my weakness

[charred saddle]

ic

[mint void]

https://marriland.com/tools/team-builder/en/@visual summit

[lost sun]

Ur starter

[mint void]

@visual summit

[charred saddle]

get fire mon for the 6th slot, for preferance its up to you

dont remember the colour schemes for fire mons

[mint void]

maybe a ground type

[visual summit]

I would but froslass already have ghost type and i heard having same types on more than one Pokémon ismt the best

[mint void]

Incin would be good

[lost sun]

wouldn't hurt tbh

[mint void]

ngl thats mostly for comp. For a playthrough that isnt too bad.

[lost sun]

my shield play through rn has like 4 type over laps and I've not lost even being under leveled

[mint void]

But incineroar probably would help u fix your weakness to Steel and Ghost

[lost sun]

ye

[charred saddle]

playthrough isnt that hard where u need to like think too hard about it

just get what you want even like weakmons and just play their strenghts and u will still win

the only hard part of playthrough is DLC 2 where u have double fights and they actually have quite nice movesets for the opp

for base, since u said u dont have dlc just get anything

[visual summit]

No, i said i have dlc

[visual summit]

"i only have pokemon violet and it's dlc"

[mint void]

*its

No?

[charred saddle]

then u could get kyogre(?)

i dont see the reason u couldnt get one then

is kyogre even an exclusive DLC mon

[visual summit]

You can get kyogre in dlc?

[mint void]

yep

[slim urchin]

yes

[mint void]

snacksworth, you need to do a bunch of BBQs in Blueberry

[visual summit]

Damn didn't know that actually

[slim urchin]

have to complete the dlc and then you gotta talk to the guy

[mint void]

yeah its kinda mid for a playthrough tho

[charred saddle]

u can check the snacksworth legendaries in google, just search them up and see if any of them fits ur bill

[visual summit]

Okay thanks for help guys!

[lost sun]

thought u meant can't get kyogre as it's dlc

[slim urchin]

YW

[charred saddle]

ye just misunderstanding

[lost sun]

paladin would work and is quite fun

as u wouldn't be able to get kyogre any time soon

[real prairie]

how i ever had issues with Zama in the past idk https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2322469220-6r3mn3ngxmpfkvpw33fm0efmrhwbvqepw

[dense latch]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2322498935 cir gameplay is just glacial lance glacial lance glacial lance lol

i have no idea why i terad turn 1 just a brainfart

[solid frigate]

fgor me is just Spore+Glacial Lance or Glacial+Ivy Cudgel

And profit

[dense latch]

second account i push to 1600 this week so im pretty happy with that

now to actually push them a bit more instead of fearing the tilt

[fringe fossil]

https://pokepast.es/d3111412440d227c
Instead of Gardevoir im thinking abt putting in a hatterene on this team im working on. Would this be a good move also would my team benefit with a trick room setup if i switched some things around?

[dense latch]

what format is this for?

[fringe fossil]

Im making it for a single battle event at my school but id like to maybe use it in vgc afterwards

[foggy lodge]

For VGC is impossible

The format rn uses restricted legendaries

[real prairie]

A good end to the day:

[fringe fossil]

got it then ill probably swap him out

at least if I wanna bring it to vgc

maybe bring in like incin for a intimidate user

maybe switch out blaziken for better type coverage after that

[mint void]

@fringe fossil bro everyone i using Kyogre or Miraidon or sth

No shot that team can compete as is

[solid frigate]

My team is in GC

Rental Team+Team Report will be posted in #rental_teams and my twitter after GC

[craggy dagger]

:0

[left bobcat]

gasp

This could only mean

[mint void]

Man wtf do I run?

Do I run CSR?

Mirai?

[molten oasis]

Don’t play gc that’s my suggestion

[knotty mirage]

Can't wait for GC to finally give us shiny legendary as participation reward

[real prairie]

When is GC 3?

[craggy dagger]

this weekend

[real prairie]

Well that's me out unless I do 30 games Sunday 🤣

[left bobcat]

You run in some Nike shoes

[left bobcat]

Oh yeah meant this weekend not The Weeknd mb gang

[bold geode]

Bro's bitching out

[molten oasis]

[charred saddle]

[bold geode]

Helloing Leo

[craggy dagger]

[charred saddle]

[craggy dagger]

what the fuuuu

[molten oasis]

How much money did you spend

[charred saddle]

anniv soon, and shop will be reset

[craggy dagger]

E6 casto?

[charred saddle]

ill prob clear the whole shop again

[charred saddle]

goal is E2S1

if im getting lucky and uhh fast

ill see if i can go E6

if i cleared the shop after reset i have 500 pulls

[craggy dagger]

christ

[charred saddle]

idk if thats enough

castorice my love

[molten oasis]

Wow

[craggy dagger]

castorice

[spiral ridge]

Jesus Leo

I mean I get it but
Damn

[chrome knot]

nobanobanobnaovnaoba

[craggy dagger]

hi whats up

[chrome knot]

haaiiiii ^-^

[twin kindle]

Never take financial advice from Leo, noted

[solid frigate]

Can you fund me pls

[molten oasis]

the 2 takes

"fund my addiction" and "dont take his advice" lol

[solid frigate]

i'm F2P wdym addiction

yet i have more Premium Units than most F2Ps

[molten oasis]

[craggy dagger]

[chrome knot]

hi does anyone have a cute pink whale c:

[solid frigate]

sorry i don't have 1 ;-;

They have to give me shiny Ray and Shiny Groudopn but not Shiny Kyogre-

[chrome knot]

ill just play DAs for it

[solid frigate]

like i am honestly think that F2P is weird experience

[chrome knot]

@spiral ridge ill just play das for it..

[molten oasis]

i need to do das for a pink whale as well

im just lazy and dont want to do the swsh dex

[foggy lodge]

This feels weird

[solid frigate]

i'll just stick to regular Kyogre just cuz it matches Miraidon's Colour tone in Double res

[spiral ridge]

Wha

[foggy lodge]

I think im finally burnt of vgc

[spiral ridge]

Ohh whale
I no have one :(

[chrome knot]

we’re gonna play DAs for it…

[foggy lodge]

Not like from VGC just from playing ig

[spiral ridge]

That was fast
Sure I don’t got anything saved

[craggy dagger]

if you wan help i’m here too

[spiral ridge]

Lemme do dishes and eat as I haven’t yet

[spiral ridge]

You got a piss rock nice

[solid frigate]

from Go Fest 2023 lmao

[foggy lodge]

Anyone wants to run a bo3?

[solid frigate]

single res or double res

[foggy lodge]

Reg G

[solid frigate]

might as well showoff Non Arubega Miraidon

[spiral ridge]

Ohh yeah that was in London wasn’t it

[foggy lodge]

Do we play Morris?

[solid frigate]

i did not go to the main stage but i joined a manchester group for it

[molten oasis]

blue/pink dog and pink whale goes hard

[solid frigate]

sure

[spiral ridge]

I left a year early if I got into Pokémon again and stayed I coulda gone
It’s fine I don’t really play pogo lol

I woulda gone broke from merch

[solid frigate]

i did not play pogo after i am in VGC

[foggy lodge]

Sent

[spiral ridge]

I used to play but I never got like good at it

Like vgc

[chrome knot]

laterrrrr

i just got home from work :c

[spiral ridge]

Okieee

I’m out 6:45 to like 7:30 I think

Then free and sleep schedule is fucked enough to go for a long time

[bold geode]

Why is this the first thing I see

[solid frigate]

i got the play wrong god damn it

[molten oasis]

"put the piss stone down you dont know what that does to your blemmis"

[foggy lodge]

It was ivy dazzling

[solid frigate]

its more like Edrift Cudgel cuz like i can kill hands

can't

[charred saddle]

shiny kyogre? i do have it

i can give it to you if you want

its not a low atk kyogre tho

[chrome knot]

ohh right i need a low atk kyogre

[spiral ridge]

Ope

May make that hunt just a bit harder

[charred saddle]

😭

[bold geode]

You doing GC ma'am?

[chrome knot]

no never

im a small girl with 204pts i have no reason to

[bold geode]

Lol

I am

[solid frigate]

same

[mint void]

@chrome knotcould u share ur CSR team? no EVs just mons?

[chrome knot]

its just csr clef smeargle rilla ursh bolt

[mint void]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNddyKS9g/

💸💸💸

[atomic mural]

there goes my money

[molten oasis]

my bank account

[atomic mural]

its broken

[real prairie]

wish me luck 😄

[left bobcat]

Vvs

[chrome knot]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2322745135-bfcp9j9i8jpeje67xxwoyo9uvxg3ijipw

lolz

[real prairie]

GG

Want a BO3 @chrome knot ?

[chrome knot]

mario kart

[real prairie]

ey? lol

[molten oasis]

clearly mario kart has higher priority

[shadow wind]

Mazza kazza

[chrome knot]

it does yeah

[molten oasis]

goated game

[chrome knot]

shes a lop bunbun

[mint void]

Guys do I try to hit 182 zo outspeed some Mirai?

Worlds Mirai was 181 ircc

[next stump]

on what pokemon?

[molten oasis]

what is this for

[dense latch]

drago welcome back

how was the break

[molten oasis]

good

im not playing this format until it ends tho

[mint void]

To outspeed some Mirai

[molten oasis]

with what mon

[mint void]

TW CIR

[molten oasis]

but, but trick room

[mint void]

Yesyes

Also

Im unsure abt speed tier. Cause Id be underspeeding incin in TR

[molten oasis]

172 speed invest god damn

[mint void]

164

[molten oasis]

ah, thats still a lot

[mint void]

Tangs were running a similar tier

Which is also kinda ass

[molten oasis]

wasnt tangs like 92 speed invest

[mint void]

Thats 172 invest

Abt there yeah

[molten oasis]

i meant ev points

[mint void]

Pre EUIC yes

[molten oasis]

he went faster?

[mint void]

Justin raised it at EUIC

[molten oasis]

ah

[mint void]

He had 156 invest

At EUIC for Incin outside of TR ircc

[kind tendon]

FUCK INCINIROAR

Thats all

[dense latch]

navjit’s cir was 92 speed too

i’m running that too

[chrome knot]

?

[kind tendon]

I just hate inciniroar

[dense latch]

wow a hot take

[chrome knot]

🌈🤨

[molten oasis]

lmfao

[kind tendon]

I want it to live in the ocean forever

In the depths

No light

[chrome knot]

i think incin is pretty cool

[dense latch]

tera water incin

[kind tendon]

With sharks

[molten oasis]

you sound like me

[kind tendon]

No Rock Tera incin

[dense latch]

i like incin’s design

[kind tendon]

So it stays down

[molten oasis]

i mean i hate incin but like, its a very very good mon and i do like its design

[craggy dagger]

i’m sorry what?

[molten oasis]

i more hate what it does into my dog

[mint void]

Biased dog liker

[molten oasis]

[kind tendon]

Zacian is annoying in competitive but atleast it looks Cool

[chrome knot]

no it aint 😭

[molten oasis]

its not even that good rn bruh

[kind tendon]

Incinaroar looks Inbred

[kind tendon]

Used to

[molten oasis]

yk what else was busted in swsh

and was on what, 80% of teams

[kind tendon]

Me?

[kind tendon]

Incin?

[molten oasis]

wasnt busted but like, it was on so many teams lol

[chrome knot]

i love this bc they watched 1 vgc vid and know they think they on the team

[craggy dagger]

[molten oasis]

yea incin had like an insanely high usage stat in swsh

[chrome knot]

hai noba

[craggy dagger]

hi emma

[kind tendon]

FUCK THAT BITCH

[chrome knot]

hai noba

[molten oasis]

did you play a game and lose to incin

[dense latch]

https://x.com/jacobskraw/status/1895490450762637703?s=46 have u seen this lol

Skraw! VGC (@JacobSkraw) on X

I kind of love the idea that people think Wolfe is so good because no one else knows protect is strong

X · Feb 28, 2025, 3:05 PM

[craggy dagger]

emma emma
i don’t have raging bolt
so i replaced raging bolt on my GC team

[chrome knot]

you..

[kind tendon]

The 2nd one

[chrome knot]

coulda asked to borrow mine....

[craggy dagger]

it’s okay hehe-
i found a good replacement

[chrome knot]

uhoh

[molten oasis]

its like thunderous therian

[kind tendon]

People Say I’m out of Pocket

Im In Pocket completely

[craggy dagger]

[kind tendon]

Would you guys agree

[craggy dagger]

weren’t you there for the conversation 😭

[molten oasis]

nope

[craggy dagger]

awe

[molten oasis]

not that i remember

[kind tendon]

Anyways

[chrome knot]

what is it nova...

[molten oasis]

did i guess the mon spot on?

[craggy dagger]

it’s a good mon-
and it works with goggles trust

[mint void]

You are in my pocket for sure

[molten oasis]

is it eleki?

[chrome knot]

if its any sort of pikachu

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 992: Iron Hands

Types

Fighting/Electric

Abilities

Quark Drive

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

154/140/108/50/68/50

Total

570

Sableye version 4.28.1

[kind tendon]

No

[chrome knot]

oh okay its hands

[molten oasis]

oh, thats fine lol

[craggy dagger]

see
it’s normal 😭

[dense latch]

i hope it’s eleki please be eleki

[real prairie]

goggles hands haha thats cool tech

[kind tendon]

Anyways I might get muted in a sec cause i didn’t read the rules

[molten oasis]

hands is cool

[chrome knot]

ok but you see nova

[craggy dagger]

why do you doubt meeeeee

[dense latch]

):

[chrome knot]

you and normal dont rly mesh well

[mint void]

?

[kind tendon]

Nothing

[molten oasis]

when you say "i have a replacement" im like 90% sure its gonna be something weird

[kind tendon]

If I stop talking Probably muted or banned

[craggy dagger]

was debating between clear amulet and goggles-
decided goggles would prolly be better since AV is being used somewhere else anyways

[molten oasis]

you wanted to run coaching kommo-o with zacian

[dense latch]

goggles is some nice gc tech

[real prairie]

on what team, is seed not an option?

[craggy dagger]

calm down-
you don’t usually get banned or muted unless someone reports you, and even then, as long as it wasn’t that bad, you’d get a warning or two

[kind tendon]

Ok I am not getting banned

[craggy dagger]

we don’t
talk about that…

[molten oasis]

lol

[dense latch]

i see the vision

[kind tendon]

I can be out of pocket sometimes not often

[molten oasis]

what is the gc team im curious

[kind tendon]

Anyways

[craggy dagger]

yknow what i’ll drop the team here
how bad can it be

https://pokepast.es/8a9d590f095c7dad

[kind tendon]

FUCK LANDOROUS T THAT BITCH

[molten oasis]

ok do you just hate intimidate

[craggy dagger]

sobbb
enough ranting please

[molten oasis]

OH THAT TEAM

[dense latch]

why future sight btw

[craggy dagger]

YEAH

[craggy dagger]

cool GC tech, though it shows up on the status menu so i. might change that

[dense latch]

lando t sucks rn

[kind tendon]

Well Still Fuck it

Shitty bitch

[craggy dagger]

most people tend to not keep track of moves that hit turns later unless it’s something like meteor beam or electro shot

[molten oasis]

lando t sucks in incin exist

[kind tendon]

Rip

[dense latch]

did you just learn how to use swear words

[molten oasis]

even with no incin i think it fell off

[craggy dagger]

lmao 😭

[kind tendon]

No Im going though grief

They are shutting down Red lobster in Scottland

[craggy dagger]

it did quite a bit-
the thing is
it gets no good physical flying moves
anddddd
you’re either forced to tera or just not run a flying move in general

[kind tendon]

I am So sad

[dense latch]

okay understandable

[craggy dagger]

that got fixed in swsh cuz max moves existed

[molten oasis]

i think towards the end of reg e it just

didnt exist and people started messing with incarnate form

[dense latch]

i’ve heard good stuff abt red lobster

[kind tendon]

The Biscuits

[craggy dagger]

yeah that’s fair

[hard lantern]

can someone help me with team building
I just started and I wanted to use
https://pokepast.es/fea227dd342df7b1
Luna, indeedie, buff rock boi

[molten oasis]

it was like, end of reg e or start of reg f i dont remember

[dense latch]

i love lando i

[craggy dagger]

the appearance of miraidon kindaaaaa opened up the possibility of lando I to zoom around

but also archaludon was a pain in the ass to deal with in F

[molten oasis]

bolt also being so good i think helped

[hard lantern]

i dont need to keep the comps or the pokemon for roar and urshifu

[real prairie]

i like to press buttons https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2322772648-kbajsggdn09jr9u4aahf28gnrpu11f4pw

[craggy dagger]

and when rain is upppppp….
100% accuracy sandsears

[molten oasis]

[dense latch]

looks similar to what just won vancouver

[craggy dagger]

so you basically use the rain that archaludon needs against it

[hard lantern]

yea im building off it

[craggy dagger]

though i’m pretty sure earth power was just flat out better 😭

[dense latch]

oh i see

[hard lantern]

yea

[dense latch]

that makes sense

[hard lantern]

but i want a stoneboi twist to it

[chrome knot]

why does nobody prep for the tsar mu 😭

[molten oasis]

tsar?

[left bobcat]

Tsar?

[chrome knot]

tsar ogre

[molten oasis]

oh tsareena gotcha

[chrome knot]

every rilla underspeeds it xd

[left bobcat]

Unfortunately

[real prairie]

Ive played maybe 1 turbo Rilla in 1000s of games lol

[next stump]

there’s a regional this weekend, right?

[chrome knot]

ye

[molten oasis]

yea

[chrome knot]

eu reg

[real prairie]

yeah, the one i was meant to go to 😭

[chrome knot]

why didnt u whatdahell

[real prairie]

stupid wedding i have to attend

[chrome knot]

o

[bold geode]

A lot just ran EP Sludge Bomb Protect and a status move of choice

[real prairie]

LOL you are prepped for me

[craggy dagger]

status?

i thought sandsear ep sludge bomb and protect was the common seat

[chrome knot]

its been like that since csr 😭 there is ZERO reason to be caught out by a tsareena lmao

• my gf played kyogre tsar so i know how annoying it is to play against lmfao

[craggy dagger]

people don’t know abilities

heck-
dazzling was something i used for a while cuz ppl didn’t know what it did 😭

[bold geode]

Nah I mean early Reg F or late Reg E some did and in F some still did but usually it was Substitute in the last slot
I personally ran Taunt

[real prairie]

hehe wait til i just switch and you get red carded instead

[craggy dagger]

ohhhh
right
substitute

i’m surprised no one tried running hurricane lando I

[real prairie]

Might be brave and push for 1700 tomorrow 👀

[chrome knot]

DUBS

[craggy dagger]

how tf do you climb that high-

[real prairie]

it doesn't get it

[craggy dagger]

oh

[tiny karma]

Landorus's moveset:

Physical Moves

Body Slam, Brick Break, Brutal Swing, Bulldoze, Crunch, Dig, Earthquake, Explosion, Facade, Fissure, Fling, Fly, Frustration, Giga Impact, Hammer Arm, Iron Tail, Knock Off, Outrage, Payback, Punishment, Return, Rock Slide, Rock Smash, Rock Throw, Rock Tomb, Sand Tomb, Secret Power, Self-Destruct, Smack Down, Stomping Tantrum, Stone Edge, Strength, Superpower, Take Down, U-turn

Special Moves

Earth Power, Extrasensory, Focus Blast, Grass Knot, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Mud Shot, Mud-Slap, Psychic, Round, Sandsear Storm, Scorching Sands, Sludge Bomb, Sludge Wave, Snore, Tera Blast, Weather Ball

Status Moves

Attract, Block, Bulk Up, Calm Mind, Confide, Defog, Double Team, Endure, Gravity, Imprison, Leer, Nasty Plot, Protect, Rain Dance, Rest, Rock Polish, Role Play, Sandstorm, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Stealth Rock, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Swords Dance, Taunt, Toxic

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Landorus.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[real prairie]

no flying moves 😭

[chrome knot]

what even would u wanna see here 😭

[craggy dagger]

[bold geode]

Also like
Low-key for the longest I thought the Sheer Force boost it got was purely off of the Lorb, I didn't know EP had a secondary effect

[real prairie]

dw, he can blow himself up though

[craggy dagger]

hear me out-
tera fire weather ball lando

[foggy lodge]

@bold geode dollarmonke

[hard lantern]

any suggestions anyone?

[bold geode]

Huh

[foggy lodge]

play

[craggy dagger]

curious about the stonjourner pick

[hard lantern]

i think its fun

and then it keeps the luna dude powerful

[real prairie]

if you have to use the stoney guy, its better as a wide guard support

[craggy dagger]

true true

[hard lantern]

ah so what should my move pool be

[bold geode]

Ah
I did need toilet time entertainment

What ruleset?

[mint void]

Qd one game on SD. Played cs HoOh stall...dont wanna play anymore

[foggy lodge]

Reg G

[bold geode]

Okie

[mint void]

How boring was that

[foggy lodge]

I want to review my games

[craggy dagger]

wide guard helping hand uhhhh
i guess two attacking moves?
or protect and an attacking move

[hard lantern]

helping?

[real prairie]

Stonjourner @ Focus Sash
Ability: Power Spot
Level: 50
Tera Type: Grass

• Rock Slide
• Low Kick
• Wide Guard
• Protect

[craggy dagger]

i don’t remember the full moveset that it gets

[bold geode]

Bed Monke
@foggy lodge

[hard lantern]

focus sash?
but it benifits so much from orb

[tiny karma]

Stonjourner's moveset:

Physical Moves

Assurance, Body Press, Body Slam, Brutal Swing, Bulldoze, Earthquake, Endeavor, Facade, Giga Impact, Hard Press, Heat Crash, Heavy Slam, High Horsepower, Low Kick, Low Sweep, Mega Kick, Rock Blast, Rock Slide, Rock Throw, Rock Tomb, Sand Tomb, Self-Destruct, Smack Down, Stomp, Stomping Tantrum, Stone Edge, Superpower, Take Down

Special Moves

Ancient Power, Earth Power, Hyper Beam, Meteor Beam, Power Gem, Round, Snore, Tera Blast

Status Moves

Attract, Block, Curse, Endure, Gravity, Imprison, Iron Defense, Protect, Psych Up, Rest, Rock Polish, Safeguard, Sandstorm, Sleep Talk, Stealth Rock, Substitute, Sunny Day, Wide Guard, Wonder Room

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Stonjourner.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[craggy dagger]

helping hand could be good for an extra boost

[hard lantern]

wait nvm

[real prairie]

not if its dead

[craggy dagger]

WIST IT DORSNT GET HELPING HAND??

god i can’t spell

[molten oasis]

i went to get my dinner and came back to you guys cooking stonejourner

[craggy dagger]

not me

[pallid hare]

it doesnt feel like helping

[molten oasis]

what happened in the last 5 minutes

[bold geode]

Nuh Uh

[hard lantern]

fair

[real prairie]

newbie wants help

[craggy dagger]

i need to practice that zacian team

[bold geode]

@foggy lodge you gonna challenge me blud?

[molten oasis]

ah ok

[craggy dagger]

still tryna think on whether i wanna run seed or goggles on fari-
and if i run gogs, i run clear amulet on hands..

[hard lantern]

wouldnt berry be better then

[molten oasis]

i like goggles fari

[craggy dagger]

it’s special defense is paper thin

[molten oasis]

throat spray is also fun

[craggy dagger]

true but future sight + psychic noise so they can’t heal from terrain

[left bobcat]

Yes 😫

[molten oasis]

fair jpoint

[craggy dagger]

maybe i run spray hyper voice and take out future sight

[next stump]

stony boy dies in one hit from most pokemon

berry wouldn’t save it

[mint void]

I like the set Wilfey ran in NAIC

[molten oasis]

shifu hehe

[real prairie]

@hard lantern this is the highest ranked Stoney boy team i found: https://pokepast.es/cbd99a9c97f2916e

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 874: Stonjourner

Type

Rock

Abilities

Power Spot

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/125/135/20/20/70

Total

470

Sableye version 4.28.1

[molten oasis]

actually probably cna take one surging strikes

[mint void]

Flutter blows at it

[real prairie]

20 SpD 😭

[craggy dagger]

20 spdef 😭

[molten oasis]

20 lmfao

[mint void]

It dies

[left bobcat]

4

What if ting Lu?

[molten oasis]

urshifu food

[hard lantern]

hmmm ok ill prob just use the commonly used set

[craggy dagger]

252 SpA Flutter Mane Icy Wind vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Stonjourner: 73-86 (35.2 - 41.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
😭😭😭

[molten oasis]

LMFAO

[craggy dagger]

why does that do so much

[left bobcat]

252 attack 4spdef 252 spd?

[mint void]

Tbf i dont think thats relevant

[craggy dagger]

252 SpA Flutter Mane Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Stonjourner: 127-150 (61.3 - 72.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[hard lantern]

I thought we would just ignore spd

[mint void]

He isnt gonna be arnd for 3 turns like ever

[molten oasis]

252 SpA Mystic Water Kyogre Water Spout (150 BP) vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Stonjourner in Rain: 1148-1352 (652.2 - 768.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO pfff

[hard lantern]

should i invest into spd

[craggy dagger]

i’m laughing at how much damage that does

[left bobcat]

Well idk

[hard lantern]

wait im dumb

[craggy dagger]

not that it’s going to be around for 3 turns

[left bobcat]

Are we using scarf?

[craggy dagger]

40% on icy wind-

[mint void]

Yeah bro is mentally weak

[left bobcat]

Cuz I have a completely different build

[mint void]

@left bobcat what mon are u talking

[left bobcat]

Depends if it’s sash, safety goggles, mystic water

[hard lantern]

actually... maybe using it in trick?

[left bobcat]

Ursh

[craggy dagger]

252+ SpA Life Orb Hadron Engine Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Stonjourner in Electric Terrain: 329-387 (158.9 - 186.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

[molten oasis]

lmao

[hard lantern]

why grass tera tho

[left bobcat]

I thought everyone is talking about ursh

[molten oasis]

not even specs

[kind tendon]

FUCK INCIN

[left bobcat]

Spore

[molten oasis]

man cmon

we get it you dont like incin

[craggy dagger]

[left bobcat]

Who does?

[mint void]

Stonjourner

[craggy dagger]

252+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Stonjourner in Electric Terrain: 379-447 (183 - 215.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

[left bobcat]

Oh but stonjourner is dookie

[mint void]

Obvi

[craggy dagger]

even out of terrain it ohkos

252+ SpA Choice Specs Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Stonjourner: 219-258 (105.7 - 124.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

[molten oasis]

the guy that keeps yelling fuck incin

[craggy dagger]

timid and it’s a roll

252 SpA Choice Specs Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Stonjourner: 199-235 (96.1 - 113.5%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO

not a good one at that

[left bobcat]

I meant who doesn’t

[craggy dagger]

anywho i’m gonna go showdown test this zacian team again

[molten oasis]

good luck

[left bobcat]

Who actually likes incin

[hard lantern]

why does this team use tera rock

[real prairie]

108+ SpA Tera Grass Hoppip Grass Knot (120 BP) vs. 0 HP / 252+ SpD Stonjourner: 176-208 (100.5 - 118.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

[left bobcat]

Because we rock in this household

[real prairie]

damage i guess

you wont invest in bulk with sash

[left bobcat]

SCHYEAHHHHHHH FWÆH

[hard lantern]

hmmm so max spd and aattack?

[left bobcat]

HP

[real prairie]

HP or Def, there is literally no point investing in its SpDef

[hard lantern]

its sash tho

speed mb

[real prairie]

you could try to make it a physical wall and let the sash do the work from a special move

[hard lantern]

idk

[left bobcat]

Yeah

☝️

[hard lantern]

so hp, def to hope for no special

[left bobcat]

I mean it’s pretty bad

[real prairie]

there aren't any popular multi hit special moves atm, so you are always going to survive if you aren't doubled up

[left bobcat]

Lettuce do some calculations ☝️🤓

[hard lantern]

i see

so is grass tera worth more than rock?

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/vegetarian-lettuce-healthy-pose-gif-5638388

grass tera is probably to survive Urshifu

rock tera is for more damage output

[molten oasis]

what the hell is that gif lmfao

[left bobcat]

Yeah max spdef with careful nature only brings it to 79

That’s still lower than its speed with no evs

So yeah just slap a sash on it

If you want to be extra just bring along dual screens and ting Lu

[real prairie]

tera ice with A9 Aveil

[left bobcat]

And if you REALLY REALLY wanna push it

Slap an assault vest

[hard lantern]

why grass tho

[real prairie]

resist urshifu rapid strikes, and not be put to sleep in TR by Amoogus

[hard lantern]

oh

[left bobcat]

Yes

SCHYEAHHHHHH

[craggy dagger]

am i allowed to quit vgc

[real prairie]

ofc

[craggy dagger]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2322789411

like
what the hell is that game

they land a fissure and a horn drill on the same turn

[solid frigate]

hoi

[left bobcat]

Hell nah

[craggy dagger]

[left bobcat]

WE ARE ALL STUCK IN THIS 4 LIFE

[craggy dagger]

then close the game off with sheer cold kyogre

[left bobcat]

Hold on-

[solid frigate]

bro can pull for our Castorice Pull now

[craggy dagger]

morris do i have permission to quit for good