alr it was prob smth else
#competitive_discussion
cyan smelt
i think that's its ivs when you catch it
cyan smelt
ivs are fixed
hard lantern
idk i dont play any of the main games
so it couldnt have a 31 special?
noble hatch
im just showdown brained, dont play competitive in the mainline games
cyan smelt
yeah you can raise it through hyper training
hard lantern
so it could be 31?
cyan smelt
yes
hard lantern
alr
bet valid team
https://pokepast.es/aa3f89d37d3c81a9
thanks for the help
ill prob be back with another dumb idea
charred saddle
thats just
normal kyogre balance team
swapped out watershifu to palafin 
oh nvm just backread a bit
real prairie
Might have to change my name depending on how you do š¤£
azure ether
Might have to change my name depending on how you do š¤£
no shot I'm getting to Worlds so you're good 
real prairie
no shot I'm getting to Worlds so you're good <:kekw:990895948152573952>
Haha just have to beat 5-3
astral kelp
Haha just have to beat 5-3
you got to worlds?
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
real prairie
you got to worlds?
Nooo! lol
astral kelp
hey i could see it
you should try to get to worlds with ludicolo it would be hilariousi
real prairie
chrome knot
@real prairie i became evil
real prairie
<@330362488447041537> i became evil
emo horse
solid frigate
<@330362488447041537> i became evil
bro did the most evil thing possible lol
real prairie
holy shit i think im cooking something:
solid frigate
holy shit i think im cooking something:
wha
spiral ridge
holy shit i think im cooking something:
Yo nice
solid frigate
might as well gonna do the Gren sauce for GC
chrome knot
bro did the most evil thing possible lol
it wins me games..
im desperate i sorry,,,
it carried me to 1600 until i lost to paul chua so.. its definitely somethinggg
bold geode
it carried me to 1600 until i lost to paul chua so.. its definitely somethinggg
Emmmmmaaaaaa
I finally hit 1600
chrome knot
yay!
solid frigate
it wins me games..
i mean we are equal now because i did mess up CIR comp
which i will do that again in this GC for Content
mint void
Emmmmmaaaaaa
I finally hit 1600
Bo3 or Bo1?
Imma see maybe gonna fuck arnd with decorate+Room Service for the GC
bold geode
Bo3 or Bo1?
BO1
bold geode
Hru bestie
bold geode
Sadge
chrome knot
i mean we are equal now because i did mess up CIR comp
how does this make us evenš
solid frigate
how does this make us evenš
you used something Evil š
azure ether
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2319540781
pls don't tell me this is an updated set 
bold geode
pls don't tell me this is an updated set <:notlikecat:648397329128226846>
What's good
So did you ever figure out if that event was G or H
azure ether
What's good
So did you ever figure out if that event was G or H
in a classic TPC moment, they replied to support tickets that we'll be playing G. they just won't send an updated form
also, I'm practicing with Jack's Kyogre team
bold geode
in a classic TPC moment, they replied to support tickets that we'll be playing G...
I see that's good
Just got back into G myself LOL
azure ether
I had a whiplash seeing Terapagos hardly working anymore
real prairie
pls don't tell me this is an updated set <:notlikecat:648397329128226846>
just me trying something different
chrome knot
you used something Evil š
something purely to win ^-^
bold geode
I had a whiplash seeing Terapagos hardly working anymore
At least it's going better than Zam
solid frigate
i am still doing shit
real prairie
im testing teams atm playing 8 game BO3s, every single one has gone 5-3 š¤£
spiral ridge
BO8??
real prairie
haha no, just trying to condition myself to 8 matchs like a regional, its helping me take showdown more seriously instead of playing whilst distracted and not paying attention
spiral ridge
Ohhh
spiral ridge
Yeah I was very confused
He said 5-3 so I thought matches
But it meant games I was just tad confused
real prairie
each match has 3 games, but it gets confusing lol
chrome knot
@spiral ridge yogurt
unkempt chasm
Any pros wanna talk comp? I'm looking to build a M ball team around Landorus I <3
solid frigate
just use Tangās team
spiral ridge
Yogurt :)
rustic mountain
beats an acc named anti kyogre w/ kyogre: 
solid frigate
beats an acc named anti kyogre w/ kyogre: <a:rocksus:1211447295879684116>
bro is anti himselff
left bobcat
YSEAHHHHH
chrome knot
no
solid frigate
lol
rustic mountain
bro is anti himselff
he was using ur guy too
solid frigate
he was using ur guy too
Psyspam Crown right-
rustic mountain
on which part
solid frigate
is he using heatran CM Pagos?
rustic mountain
idk bout cm but it was the heatran variant
it just clicked starstorm i never saw it click anything else
solid frigate
huh
rustic mountain
huh
i answered ur questions in order
specs probably? - i was assuming the way they were playing
did he tera immediately? - nah
u needa wake up or something? 
solid frigate
i answered ur questions in order
specs probably? - i was assuming the way they w...
no i know what you answer i'm just in curiousity
solid frigate
ppl play weird
I'm gonna just prep for double res
Bye Pagos and Hello Kyogre Miraidon (I did fight Jeudy with MiraiOgre on my team)
chrome knot
@rustic mountain play csr with meā¦
rustic mountain
sure im bout to head out inna few but i can take a look at it later š«”
fallow palm
hey
craggy dagger
hawwo 
fallow palm
does somene have good starter team
solid frigate
like starter as in the starters or beginner team-
fallow palm
begginer team
chrome knot
hawwo <a:yayspin:1168600674905378838>
hello!!!
chrome knot
NOVA
craggy dagger
!!!
YOU
chrome knot
YOU!!!!
craggy dagger
hi 
chrome knot
haaiiii
foggy lodge
Oh god
unkempt chasm
kyogres would love that team
craggy dagger
itās an adaptation of an old team š
craggy dagger
kyogres would love that team
however, sun always procs after kyogre cuz of speed
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
foggy lodge
How was the original team for this to be the adaptation
craggy dagger
if only 
left bobcat
Haze my children
craggy dagger
How was the original team for this to be the adaptation
its missing a couple teammates from the original team 
left bobcat
Haze
craggy dagger
wah-???
unkempt chasm
however, sun always procs after kyogre cuz of speed
That's cool. I'm trying/ working on a adaptation of a french qualifying vgc team that features landorus
craggy dagger
25th anniversary players cup invitationals adaptation 
foggy lodge
That's cool. I'm trying/ working on a adaptation of a french qualifying vgc team...
Just use Hearthflame Urshifu Landorus core
Works with most things
unkempt chasm
lol that's the core. <3 Prob is organizing it for regulation G
atomic mural
https://pokepast.es/02d593f147bdde5c would tera water or grass be better on weezing
unkempt chasm
Need to replace maybe an arcanine, need to decide what to use for type coverage, and need to decide on using ursh dark or water.
foggy lodge
Which restricted are you using
foggy lodge
https://pokepast.es/02d593f147bdde5c would tera water or grass be better on weez...
Water
For CIR
atomic mural
yeah i was thinking that
dense latch
what now
noble hatch
now you go and lose a bunch
chrome knot
so i made a teamā¦
https://pokepast.es/5497a34fadf59a63
i think i not gonna ask this timeā¦
craggy dagger
i think i not gonna ask this timeā¦
listen-
in my defense
the original team isnāt mine
chrome knot
ion wanna know,,,,
craggy dagger
25th anniversary players cup invitationals adaptation <:kannagun:115501748578392...
itās not mineeeee
itās from thissss
but it was dependant on this
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
atomic mural
i didnt know that if you both gave up on the same turn you have a draw on cart
mint void
so i made a teamā¦
https://pokepast.es/5497a34fadf59a63
why Sitrus over AV here?
Looks fun tho. Maybe Hurrican on Zapdos for fun?
Little gambling aspect
craggy dagger
why Sitrus over AV here?
for recovery and parting shot access
craggy dagger
Looks fun tho. Maybe Hurrican on Zapdos for fun?
hurricane sun is not good
iād rather weather ball instead since sun will be up most of the time
and weather ball is flexible
mint void
anybody got a begginer good team?
check pins ther eis a document with some good teams in it
Maybe u can find a cinderace there but its generally pretty bad/doesnt do anything good.
fallow palm
well if wolfey can make exegutter good i can make cindarce good (proabaly not)
mint void
exeguttor was good in a meta that didnt allow for amazing threats/where the power creep wasnt as insane as it is rn.
mint void
like its usable i just dont get why u would have court change ngl
I guess it transfers screens to u
but thats abt it
fallow palm
would you mind me making a team for me i can give you shinys
like a good begginer team
mint void
on cart?
fallow palm
i have 3 mons that are battle ready
mint void
Depends. I can make a rental for you maybe
fallow palm
i can make the mos
fallow palm
yea
mint void
I can look into it I guess. Sure.
fallow palm
a good begginer team
mint void
Anythign u want on it?
mint void
gimme a bit
fallow palm
cause those are 3 i alr i have made
you dont have to but if there is a spot you can add cinderace
cause i have cinderaced ev and all so dragapult
lost sun
does psychic terrain stop protects or is it just offensive priority moves
mint void
cause those are 3 i alr i have made
DM me abt it
fallow palm
DM me abt it
i did
left bobcat
The dmssss
left bobcat
Just slap a focus sash
dapper crag
Anyone here starting to make double restricted teams?
hard lantern
yea
atomic mural
i trying to cook with a caly shadow koraidon weezing team
dapper crag
Been cooking with the good ol' Zacian + Kyogre team
next stump
2 more weeks until format announcement
part of me is hoping they troll and do some crazy random format
atomic mural
i already signed up for millwaukee they better do double restricted
dapper crag
The no restricted formats were fun, but I think they'll move to doubles bc worlds will be that format this year I would think
next stump
yooo see you there, milwaukee will be very fun
atomic mural
i live really close so its very nice
dapper crag
I hope they go double I'll be in Portland for that regional
next stump
i agree, but then that begs the question of what next year will be
because weāre going to be on year 4 of the game when normally we only have 3
atomic mural
mythicals šŖ
mint void
Anyone here starting to make double restricted teams?
yeah. Ogre+Zacian and prob resh zama...not sure on Zama tho
dapper crag
Yeah that's true. Unless they just swap it to pokemon champions next year if they get it out in time
dapper crag
True honesty. We can dream though lol
atomic mural
honestly imprison caly shadow goes crazy
dapper crag
yeah. Ogre+Zacian and prob resh zama...not sure on Zama tho
I think zamas best partner is going to be ice rider to shit down astral
dapper crag
Shut* lol
mint void
I think zamas best partner is going to be ice rider to shit down astral
Might see CSR with it too tho. Since it covers for Zamas Ghost issues
Tbf wide guard is just gonna be better in doubles
Unfraud Zama?
dapper crag
Be interesting to see what other mons pop up with it being double. Reshiram like you said, Palkia, Dialga even
atomic mural
mint void
Be interesting to see what other mons pop up with it being double. Reshiram like...
imma do some room service stuff for next GC
for fun
dapper crag
atomic mural
ok but imagine i do imprison caly shadow
left bobcat
Imprison astral barrage, protect, trick room
azure ether
what if they throw a curve ball and the next regulation is 2010 format (4 restricteds per team, use 2 max per battle)
atomic mural
also in double restricted if you have to be max speed timid with calyrex shadow or you just lose
but thats just me
dapper crag
Could still run bulkier and just pair with booster flutter with icy wind, or booster moon with tailwind
dapper crag
dapper crag
New to this app, idk why it sent a link ffs
atomic mural
its fine
left bobcat
Itās fine
dense latch
New to this app, idk why it sent a link ffs
you need to reach a certain level in the server before you get to send images
the more you chat the higher your level will get i think
charred saddle
i think thatās leo and not ming-
yes
dapper crag
you need to reach a certain level in the server before you get to send images
Ahhhhhh got it! Thanks šŖš¼
gentle cragBOT
Ahhhhhh got it! Thanks šŖš¼
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chrome knot
<@224303371564220418> can u drop Living Thunderclap real quick?
spaghetti
mint void
Any pros wanna talk comp? I'm looking to build a M ball team around Landorus I <...
U got a team?
unkempt chasm
U got a team?
https://play.limitlesstcg.com/tournament/6546556138bc6343150748f0/player/rakeysnattle/teamlist Yes I'm very interested in building a concept around this team. Need to decide on what to adjust while being careful not to ruin it. Also decide if I want it to be weather between kyogre or groudon for example. (Sun or drizzle.)
Arcanine seems like the one to replace for G ruleset.
mint void
@unkempt chasm team says rain
Ogerpon, Shifu and Lando(Sandsear) profit off rain
Ok its darkshifu but
left bobcat
Fufu
unkempt chasm
Honestly I feel like the team says 'variety' options. Like I can run it as either a sun team or a drizzle.
because I can mask out ogerpon too
left bobcat
The rock
unkempt chasm
why rockpon though, despite it being my favorite ogerpon mask, coverage?
left bobcat
Variety and ability
foggy lodge
https://play.limitlesstcg.com/tournament/6546556138bc6343150748f0/player/rakeysn...
Oh uh
The problem with this
Is that is a team from 2 years ago lol
unkempt chasm
That's ok, I'm new to vgc anyway
foggy lodge
Search for reg G
left bobcat
Seeeeyuh
foggy lodge
There's a lot of teams around cores of Landorus
Landorus Ogerpon Shifu won two regionals almost back to back
left bobcat
Because of the motorcycle
unkempt chasm
At least im trying
astral kelp
at this point you just give up tbh
unkempt chasm
Ok I have Lando I and ogerpon set up, no clue what else to use now. Calyrex shadow work at all?
cyan smelt
kyogre for accurate sandsears
unkempt chasm
Team could be called wet ground. Eh what does kyogre have to do with sandsear storm?
cyan smelt
sandsear improves to 100% accuracy in rain
azure ether
rain makes them ignore accuracy checks
unkempt chasm
Oooh genie moves are improved in rain too
azure ether
Oooh genie moves are improved in rain too
except Enamorus for some reason
unkempt chasm
I only know kyogre from singles, doubles is foreign to me. Should it still be a choice scarf user?
azure ether
well, it's always a good time to get acquainted with vgc
cyan smelt
nah you don't want to be locked into one move, i think calm mind tera grass is its best set
azure ether
and your prefered playstyle
foggy lodge
And more when its your restricted and not just another piece of the team
azure ether
I run scarf because "I click buttons"
foggy lodge
The team has to be mainly built around the restricted because its the most valuable piece to destroy
shadow wind
nah you don't want to be locked into one move, i think calm mind tera grass is i...
AV is always nice for CSR
unkempt chasm
I could go og zapdos that use to be huge coverage check for kyogre
specifically bulky roost.
cyan smelt
zapdos is not good
foggy lodge
Raging Bolt
azure ether
stall is not good in vgc
cyan smelt
unless your name is dondozo or ting lu
cyan smelt
scream tail is so damn bulky
foggy lodge
Stall is good for this format
foggy lodge
Just some type of stall
foggy lodge
Escalante got top 4 at fortaleza with wolfey's team
And in his words he lost to crit struggle that match
azure ether
it's like that joke of "your chances of getting killed by a cow are low, but never 0"
foggy lodge
P much
foggy lodge
mint void
talking bout stall
Im a hater
unkempt chasm
That's three. Lando I/Kyogre/ Ogerpon stone(for now) Arceus fairy is suppose to be a fantastic core with kyogre?
cant use arceus doi
Any recomendations for fairy coverage? Flutter mane only?
azure ether
cant use arceus doi
mythicals are banned
flutter can be good, it benefits from opponent's sun
unkempt chasm
mm need a shiny one! Thinking the last three could be flutter mane, raging bolt, and idk
foggy lodge
I don't see how Kyogre is supposed to get the calm mind here
unkempt chasm
I don't see how Kyogre is supposed to get the calm mind here
follow me ogerpon is one way
azure ether
you probably need fake out support if you're playing setup ogre
foggy lodge
^
cyan smelt
Or screens
azure ether
incin or rilla or both
unkempt chasm
specifically I was thinking fake out iron hands. Maybe that over raging bolt
incin is just better at everything, I kind of hate it for that reason.
foggy lodge
Absolutely not
azure ether
nothing wrong with using the best tools available if you wanna win
foggy lodge
They do different things
unkempt chasm
Ok I need a shiny flutter mane, and a kubfu
unkempt chasm
nothing wrong with using the best tools available if you wanna win
ty
unkempt chasm
Teams still a mess. Idk what goes or works with raging bolt xD
azure ether
you're gonna wanna try everything anyway and get a feel of what works for you
unkempt chasm
No I wanna try to win
azure ether
practicing will get you there
unkempt chasm
Not really, the meta changes too often for you to ever get a feel
last I played legends in vgc would of never ever been a thing
mint void
last I played legends in vgc would of never ever been a thing
Thats just cause the ruleset changes
unkempt chasm
I hate that thing. Sadly I also dont have a fire coverage option yet except ogerpon, and incin scares people so prob should use it
mint void
Incin often doesnt run fire moves, especially on a ogre team
Just fake out, knock off, parting shot and a 4th move
azure ether
I also meant that it's not specifically incin. I mean that whatever the regulation, Fake Out + setup is always present
unkempt chasm
Yeah my first doubles exp is getting slapped down with that a long time ago
fake out combos
Sadly I just don't know what will work here for the other three, it does not really makes sense kyogre and the rest look like a mess
left bobcat
Wombo combo
azure ether
Sadly I just don't know what will work here for the other three, it does not rea...
send a paste, and we can all patch it up
that's what this community is for 
chrome knot
favourite position š
unkempt chasm
Lets see we got life orb lando, sturdypon, heavy duty boots kyogre, raging bolt no item, and incin no item
azure ether
boots has no value in vgc
also, try it out in showdown first before you commit on cart
avoid wasting resources on things you might wanna change
unkempt chasm
idk what showdown is
azure ether
it's a battle simulator
unkempt chasm
is it that very old simulator you could play around with back in the day? I might of had it a long time ago if so
azure ether
Pokemon Showdown
unkempt chasm
Oh it says beta, so its like a newer version of the one I use to use
azure ether
it's always beta
they'll never release an official one
try building your team there first
unkempt chasm
na I want to go straight into SV battling
ty tho
Of course sadly I see now my Incin does not know any of the vgc moves, no fake out, no knock off. Doesnt learn them either. Idiot cat
azure ether
Of course sadly I see now my Incin does not know any of the vgc moves, no fake o...
knock off is learned via TM. Fake Out is an egg move, I think
unkempt chasm
That REALLY sucks that its an egg move
You all know home ruins learned moves like egg moves right?
Stupid system deleted all the roosts on my shiny corvinights
azure ether
you can teach it using Mirror Herb
unkempt chasm
which no one adds to mention is an annoying whopping confusing pain
azure ether
In Picnics, if a PokƩmon is holding this item and has a spare moves slot, and is in the Picnic with a PokƩmon that knows one of the PokƩmon's Egg Moves, it will learn that Egg Move even if the other PokƩmon is not part of its Egg Group
unkempt chasm
Kinda have to use iron hands thats the only thing I have with fake out.
bold geode
favourite position š
NOOOO SMELLY HONSE
(I built off Dawei shit earlier for a double restricted idea, don't judge me)
azure ether
Kinda have to use iron hands thats the only thing I have with fake out.
you can pass Fake Out to Incin by opening a move slot, letting it hold the Mirror Herb, and then picnic with a mon that has Fake Out
unkempt chasm
Yeah I rather my soul not be crushed more then it already is. I need a shiny incin with fake out.
I'll just have to make due with follow me on ogerpon if I can even get it, and using that as a suicide for cm kyogre. =/
bold geode
@chrome knot did you see my last DM
austere summit
what happens if a protosynthesis pokemon has two stats tied? which one gets the proto boost?
austere summit
can i trust the google ai this time
left bobcat
alright thank you
No problem
fluid fiber
Whats a good restricted for a trick room + tailwind team
mighty stump
Calyrex apparently
fluid fiber
Ice?
I'm thinking of using Suicune as a tailwinder
Inner focus and decent into all the relevant mons
This is a very loose mock-up but: https://pokepast.es/f1f4b8a012f8d52e
Don't even think these are quite the right mons, but I like the feel
charred saddle
suicune is going to have a bit of hard time with setting those up since no prankster and isnt fast enough compared to other TW user (like booster RM or jug)
fluid fiber
No, but it allows it to work in TR too
And it's bulky enough to work as a pivot
I can use it to midgame pivot between Twind and TR
I'm trying to think of what to build from that idea though. I want a Twind + TR team, but not sure what will slot well into the meta
charred saddle
BM ursaluna used to be good in tailroom
but idk for now, since uhhhh back then max speed tailwind BM kinda outspeeds a lot of stuff but now with restricted
kinda hard ig
fluid fiber
True, you think it still sits at a good speed bracket?
New thought: https://pokepast.es/fd7dac583d33fc5d
charred saddle
honestly
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
charred saddle
holy shit thats ass
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
charred saddle
i meannnnnnnnnn
if CIR can do it, BM should work 
jokes aside
idk
it should work,but its like is it worth tho
since like ur still a slow tailwind suicune
fluid fiber
I'm kinda liking Hisuian Lilligant + Drago and Torkoal instead of Twind
charred saddle
so theyre gonna be able to hit still before TW up
fluid fiber
Maybe pivoting Suicune to something else
Imstead of Twind Troom maybe Lilligant after you + Troom
charred saddle
jumpluff is also quite similar to lilligant, but its TW and not after you
aftwr you can still get redirected which is a problem
fluid fiber
jumpluff is also quite similar to lilligant, but its TW and not after you
Lilligang threatens Incin though
Which is huge
charred saddle
yeah but also prio goes through after you and all, so you will waste tera on that
fluid fiber
Covert
fluid fiber
I don't think it needs to be with good positioning
Might put protect instead of petal blizzard or triple axel tho
fluid fiber
How so?
charred saddle
since u want to cc
-1 and ur pretty much dead to most stuff
fluid fiber
Thats why I had Axe
charred saddle
oh which move is that again
charred saddle
oh is that the one if u miss u got hit by dmg?
fluid fiber
Yeah
charred saddle
fluid fiber
Figured its be a good fit here which is rare
charred saddle
uhh hm
fluid fiber
But it avoids that -1
astral kelp
what makes drago bad btwe
fluid fiber
Its a matter of not betting entire games on it 
charred saddle
yeah no idea yet, for some reason i thought of like groudon
astral kelp
he feels kinda crazy
fluid fiber
what makes drago bad btwe
Nothing lowkey
astral kelp
like statswise
charred saddle
he feels kinda crazy
fairy walls it completely
fluid fiber
Just a weird speed tier
charred saddle
and that yeah, awkward speed
fluid fiber
fairy walls it completely
Yeah it needs support
astral kelp
fairy walls it completely
well other than that ofc
im assuming youd run it with like a good steel type or something
fluid fiber
I have it on my new team, been loving it
astral kelp
its hp stat is fucking crazy
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
charred saddle
no its a different case completely
its ability pushes dragon moves
so ur doing dmg from dragon
STAB + ability
so, no dragon move = mediocre dmg
astral kelp
well yeah ofc
fluid fiber
This was my old team: https://pokepast.es/47d30780b0b0b0f1 I like it but I feel like it slots poorly into the metal rn
astral kelp
but you right its speed tier is so weird
too slow for tailwind too fast for trick room
fluid fiber
So I'm taking a look at a team to use for this new meta
fluid fiber
too slow for tailwind too fast for trick room
Its been pretty reliable with after you lilligant to break its speed tier
charred saddle
and then prankster TW
and then follow me
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
astral kelp
yea chloophill
charred saddle
it used to be like so good
till people knew how to play around it
woven pelican
Kek
fluid fiber
and then prankster TW
and then follow me
That's why I'm messing around with how fast it needs to be, I was playing around with scarf to outspeed even Twinders
woven pelican
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/284828648056422401/1055549007381930075/26...
Kek
astral kelp
i feel like regidrago could be paired with a trick room imprision thing and be given 0 speed investment
fluid fiber
I just can't decide my restricted
I love Terapagos but I don't think it's the right play
astral kelp
one of these
astral kelp
I love Terapagos but I don't think it's the right play
prolly one of the carylexes
id say ice
or you can be really cool and go necrozma dusk lmao
or zacian
charred saddle
I love Terapagos but I don't think it's the right play
honestly you can try groudon
astral kelp
i actually kidna wanna try necrozma dusk trick room imprision with drago
oh man could you imagine
what do you run on drago @fluid fiber ?
wait nvm i found it
astral kelp
what do you think of my speedrun cook as a regidrago conosuir @fluid fiber
ignore the evs thats like pretty much random lmao
fluid fiber
Checks out, Drago pretty much has to run those four moves unless you have a tera blast
astral kelp
yeah all of its things fucking suck
fluid fiber
Ive thought of doing tera ground or stellar for boosted EP
astral kelp
yea imprision and trick room together really help with the weird speed tier
fluid fiber
wait tera blast seems better than earth power
Was thinking that as well
fluid fiber
Hmm, what about life orb
astral kelp
wtf was this tur
fluid fiber
Thoughts on the last two slots? Also Ice rider or Groudon
astral kelp
Hmm, what about life orb
ehhh maybe
fluid fiber
astral kelp
Thoughts on the last two slots? Also Ice rider or Groudon
ice rider is definitevly better lol
fluid fiber
ehhh maybe
Was thinking that to OHKO the flutter manes
astral kelp
Was thinking that to OHKO the flutter manes
yea i get the idea its a good idea
fluid fiber
But it'd lower dragon energy's power
astral kelp
and he could probably still be tanky
astral kelp
But it'd lower dragon energy's power
i mean i dont think it lowers it
fluid fiber
Though usually you only need one-two
fluid fiber
i mean i dont think it lowers it
Losing HP does
fluid fiber
I don't think it'd be too crazy though
astral kelp
okay so eternatus DEFINITEVLY needs protect
astral kelp
just because of its typing and that im using fake out
fluid fiber
Used to run Eternatus, Lilligant Torkoal, Drago, and Incin
fluid fiber
Id do bomb to avoid playing around hitting yourself
astral kelp
the whole syneregy with tinkaton and eternatus thooo
also bronzong
hitting myself isnt reallyt a problem
damage wise tho
fluid fiber
And better single target damage, and avoids wide guard
astral kelp
true hm
ill try sludge wave for now but i feel like its too bad ill change out tinkaton and stuff
fluid fiber
Rip
fluid fiber
mint void
lol see if you canj fix it if you want i gtg
U need a way to hit steel types
mighty stump
Zamazenta walling ahh team
bold geode
Zamazenta walling ahh team
Hey Tofu
I can't cleep
fluid fiber
Tweaked: https://pokepast.es/8e658fcba1dcab65
mint void
Juat use Lucario tho?
fluid fiber
Prankster
cyan smelt
sableye can't get faked out
next stump
good morning
shadow wind
AV ā¼ļøā¼ļø
left bobcat
SEEEEEYUH ā¼ļøā¼ļø
solid frigate
good morning
slim urchin
Hey everyone, I am new here and not sure I am in the right spot
I have a question - I am trying to join a competitive pokemon tournament and have ran into an issue
mint void
Ok
slim urchin
I need a Kyogre that has 0 speed IV's and I do not have the ability to get one. I have already used the Kyogre from my game in another team and it has perfect speed IV's and I am not sure how to go about getting one
mint void
I need a Kyogre that has 0 speed IV's and I do not have the ability to get one. ...
F
Check Trading channels maybe...
next stump
you could start a new save file
or if you own an older game like SWSH, you can hunt there
mint void
But u probably have to either do DAs in SH/SW or start a new file
slim urchin
damn, I will check in the trading channel and hope for the best! Thank you
atomic mural
Rental of my friend's team from a reg I limitless tour
i saw that tournament
fluid fiber
Still messing around with that team from yesterday, i think it has the potential to turn into something interesting, it just needs to be ironed out
dapper crag
using this tmr for a tourny, think ive been cooking pretty good. anyone have any imput on it
charred saddle
double restricted?
dapper crag
yes
charred saddle
i mean
fluid fiber
We aren't in double restricted rn are we?
dapper crag
no but the tourn is
dapper crag
and prob next ruleset will be double
fluid fiber
I feel like your team might have a hard time choosing a mode
Miraidon is gonna struggle in any game you want TR, and IC is gonna struggle in games you don't want TR
craggy dagger
petal blizzard?
i forget
does that move hit both enemies
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
fluid fiber
petal blizzard?
i forget
does that move hit both enemies
And ally
dapper crag
mirs evs are bulkier to utilize tr when needed, the mid speed tier is why grim in on the team to be able to beef up both mir and cal ice to take hits better both in and out of tr
dapper crag
baton pass farig to pass def boost as well
craggy dagger
grass type surf
fluid fiber
oh š
Grass type surf
Yeah lol
Its kinda nice highkey
I MIGHT swap it for OHKO'ing Urshifu tho
craggy dagger
100% should
fluid fiber
Aside from Meowscarada I'm pretty happy with the team, haven't tested Meowscarada yet
Just changed to leaf blade too
Might end up swapping Drago to something else. But it's working well
mint void
Aside from Meowscarada I'm pretty happy with the team, haven't tested Meowscarad...
Dont like the EVs for CIR
Why invest so heavy into defense with Prankster Coaching?
Also u missed 252EVs on Regidrago in the paste.
Mowscarada and Lilligant also just overlap ngl
Especially against sun + Scarf urshifu just kills the cat with Uturn.
Riolu should probably be Ghost or Dark Tera to dodge Fake Out/Taunt if you ever tera it
foggy lodge
Its a team of all time
fluid fiber
Dont like the EVs for CIR
Team isn't fully finished, especially EVs, I usually run games and adjust EVs as necessary.
Caly Ice I've not run before, don't know the EVs I should have.
Meowscarada I've already said I'm not sure what to do with that slot, I've been pivoting it around all day, but Protean does stop as much overlap for them
Riolu should be ghost or dark very true, forgot to change the tera
Meowscarada is also faster than shifu and thus can change type to OHKO it or just resist the hit
But I always appreciate help
next stump
https://pokepast.es/a7da26f47f74c0b9
I think lilligant needs sleep powder
fluid fiber
I think lilligant needs sleep powder
Too inconsistent
next stump
unless you're playing best of 1 ladder since the threat of sleep powder will be enough
fluid fiber
Well that's true
next stump
heavily disagree, especially if you're gonna run triple axel in its place
fluid fiber
Oh triple was replaced by protect lol, forgot to change the paste
But the threat of it is pretty big
Hmmm, what would be replaced?
next stump
I think double STAB moves + after you + sleep powder is the standard set
fluid fiber
I think double STAB moves + after you + sleep powder is the standard set
No protect?
mint void
Meowscarada is also faster than shifu and thus can change type to OHKO it or jus...
Not scarf shifu
Which was my entire point since its the only version that runs uturn
I think standard caly is just max hp and attack. I ran less attack on hard tr for spdef invest to live edrift on terrain
Or at least have good rolls into modest 244
dense latch
No protect?
no real need to protect liligant if it has either sash to live a move or cloak to stop fake out
just has better options too
fluid fiber
What about the 6th pokemon slot?
And do you think Drago is the right pick for the team? I'm on the fence about it
torn parrot
Dc is making fake mobile game ads now
Like really trashy stuff
Brainrot for kids
Bah
If pokemon ever does this I will lose all respect for them
mint void
And do you think Drago is the right pick for the team? I'm on the fence about it
Drago usually wants to iutspeed and delete with dragon energy
craggy dagger
unless you're playing best of 1 ladder since the threat of sleep powder will be ...
support puff also works-
blade puff helping hand protect
mint void
So kinda wants TW
craggy dagger
though having sleep powder is arguably better, support puff in the sun can help you in a lot of scenarios :0
next stump
What about the 6th pokemon slot?
try out indeedee
i think having the terrain and support for caly-ice will be really nice
foggy lodge
X
dense latch
https://x.com/soulsurvgc/status/1900272031578673390?s=46 not a great move hitter jeudy
X
fluid fiber
try out indeedee
With that swap the team would move into a harder TR playstyle, should I swap out Drago to something else to balance things out a bit?
Also wouldn't Indeedee stop Riolu's coaching?
dense latch
it wouldnāt
fluid fiber
Oh it doesn't stop you from targeting your own?
dense latch
Affected PokƩmon become immune to opponents' moves with increased priority (including moves boosted by Prankster, Gale Wings, or Triage).
you can still use priority on allies
solid frigate
https://x.com/soulsurvgc/status/1900272031578673390?s=46 not a great move hitter...
yeah we know now that he hates zacian lmao
next stump
With that swap the team would move into a harder TR playstyle, should I swap out...
I think the team is already hard trick room
fluid fiber
I think the team is already hard trick room
I just don't know if I wanna go with a "if TR isn't up I lose automatically"
fluid fiber
I already said Idk the EVs yet
If people know any good IV spreads please lmk, I usually have to run a ton of games to find mine
solid frigate
so hard TR or Soft TR you are thinking?
fluid fiber
Soft TR is what I want, I don't want to go hard TR
solid frigate
Calyrex-Ice @ Clear Amulet
Ability: As One (Glastrier)
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 204 HP / 116 Atk / 4 Def / 28 SpD / 156 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Glacial Lance
- High Horsepower
- Trick Room
- Protect
I have one that is Tailroom
fluid fiber
https://pokepast.es/20e57339540606e4
Okay, for soft TR, what should I do
This is my core
The other EVs I'll figure out what I need, but.
Torkoal is 252 for max Damage, maybe could use a different defensive spread though
Lilligant just needs to be fast, and OHKO Urshifu, will find the exact spread needed for this
Riolu I'm not sure
real prairie
Hi people
real prairie
Sons bday party today at a bouncy castle warehouse, so I'm fucking shattered. But need my pkmn fix, so thought I'd shout
dense latch
https://pokepast.es/20e57339540606e4
Okay, for soft TR, what should I do
idk if a team can be soft tr with torkoal
usually on a soft TR team most if not all your mons need to work without trick room
yea thereās lilikoal but tbh between redirection wide guard and other ways to stop it i dont see it being super reliable
fluid fiber
yea thereās lilikoal but tbh between redirection wide guard and other ways to st...
It's a part of the team. Like you said, most of the team needs to work outside of TR. I just don't have to bring Torkoal. Riolu can proc Lilligant's speed as well
If I make the rest of the team around the Twind, then it should have two very solid modes
And then I can also use Lillikoal for matchups that allow it
real prairie
fluid fiber
I'm trying to figure out who a good Twinder would be though
next stump
i've seen tornadus + calyrex ice a little bit
solid frigate
i've seen tornadus + calyrex ice a little bit
Is it just alt for Tang team or new comp
solid frigate
https://pokepast.es/cdeb92e16960b7b2
riolu is 0IV AtK but 4 ATK EVs?
forest arrow
Iād be surprised if it wasnāt just a tang variant, Lando, Ursh, Hearth is a really good core
solid frigate
https://pokepast.es/cdeb92e16960b7b2
also why not eviolite?
craggy dagger
also why not eviolite?
guaranteed double coaching
mint void
Calyrex-Ice @ Clear Amulet
Ability: As One (Glastrier)
Level: 50
Tera Type...
@fluid fiber thats Tailroom though or Icywind. Not really Soft TR. You have no speed control but TR on the team no?
Most incin in lower Ranks bo1 run at 80-90 speed with the bulk sitting at 80 or below.
Even more so for higher ranks.
For Hard TR you probably want to underspeed that. For soft maybe outspeed?
mint void
Iād be surprised if it wasnāt just a tang variant, Lando, Ursh, Hearth is a real...
unfortunatly yeah
dapper crag
That's kinda what I was thinking
on tornadus i would run Sunny Day, Tailwind, Air Slash, and then either Taunt or Protect if you are running a sun team
dapper crag
does he not have a torkaol
mint void
For sun teams whims is usually better since it doesnt get disadvantaged by the sun
mint void
does he not have a torkaol
yeah. True but like sun isnt his main mode tho. Its just 2 mons using it.
dapper crag
gotchya
foggy lodge
TIME TO COOK GS CUP KAAAA
mint void
I just hate sunny day on Torn since it doesnt help itself at all. Strengthens fire into ur CIR and everyone else. Kinda only torkoal wants it and its mostly not chilling out with torn anyway
mint void
TIME TO COOK GS CUP KAAAA
when is dead line?
mint void
Doing the same but reshiram
foggy lodge
when is dead line?
It should be available on showdown on april 1st
dapper crag
https://pokepast.es/2e6f93f0d200cd32
any input on this? think these are the final spreads and 6 imma lock in for tmr.
mint void
I like my ogres a lil beefier
left bobcat
Yes
next stump
https://pokepast.es/2e6f93f0d200cd32
any input on this? think these are the fin...
what's the tera dark tera blast for? also I think tera stellar is better on sash urshifu with close combat
dapper crag
dark tera is for a better matchup into cal shadow and lunala/ indeedee psy spam teams. debated steller but i like water just bc it drops the fairy, flying weaknesses
next stump
are you playing an open teamsheet tournament?
dapper crag
yes
fluid fiber
riolu is 0IV AtK but 4 ATK EVs?
Mistake, ty for pointing out
gentle cragBOT
Mistake, ty for pointing out
keonespirit has given 1 Gen Rep to morrispxg456
fluid fiber
also why not eviolite?
So far it's just died anyways
fluid fiber
its 100% rain dance
I like this, it allows for weather denial for opposing sun teams if i need it
left bobcat
Hiyaaa
fluid fiber
Any of these need tweaking? Especially EVs I'm sure some are off: https://pokepast.es/958d7d2bed340732
Also any suggestions for mon #6?
solid frigate
Imagine being a 7 years old and Iono suddenly pulls out arubega mirai
me with Caly Ice:
craggy dagger
cyan smelt
<@&727593710816067594> more spam in #rental_teams
next stump
thanks š
next stump
Any of these need tweaking? Especially EVs I'm sure some are off: https://pokepa...
this is admittedly pretty vague advice but I donāt really see the synergies in this team so far. I have a hard time picturing what 4 pokĆ©mon youāre bringing into the common meta matchups with the way itās built right now
left bobcat
SEEEEEEEEYUH
dense latch
Any of these need tweaking? Especially EVs I'm sure some are off: https://pokepa...
this feels like a forced tailwind mode
only cir really benefits from it + a potential sixth, and like dillon said these five donāt have a matchup into a lot of teams and i dont see how 1 pokemon can fix it
feel like you have to commit to tailroom where most mons can benefit from it (e.g tang cir tailroom, all mons but amoonguss benefit from tailwind) or go the hard tr way
foggy lodge
Been trying Joey's Miraidon Volcarona team and feels fine
Volcarona outspeeding CSR is funny :v
latent ember
man now that necrozma has access to expanding force, and pokemon champions might be bringing back z moves which would imply a return of ultra necrozma- imagine a dual restricted format where you could run expanding force ultra necrozma along with tapu lele for psychic terrain o.o
noble hatch
ice spinner and rillaboom go brrr
atomic mural
ice spinner and rillaboom go brrr
chien pao ice spinner š„ š„ š„
cyan smelt
incin don't care about ultra necrozma
latent ember
incin don't care about ultra necrozma
earth power? idk
plus psychic terrain gets rid of fake out
and if tapu lele has magic room you can ignore safety goggles and switch into your own incin and debuf? i'm really pretty new to competitive but i feel like this has a lot of potential, could be wrong tho
mint void
and if tapu lele has magic room you can ignore safety goggles and switch into yo...
Yeah like Ultra Necrozma is a stat beast but new additions power crept even that
solid frigate
Calyrex Nukes it cuz Ultra Necrozma is not that tanky
mint void
Godspeed ghost horse
latent ember
fair
i guess it might depend on how meta relevant calyrex shadow will be, and odds are, very
solid frigate
Godspeed ghost horse
or TR Ice Honse
latent ember
ok genuine question, does choice scarf tapu lele have any chance of outspeeding calyrex shadow?
mint void
And do what?
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
latent ember
idk something hopefully š
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
latent ember
YES YES YES
SPA groudon baby
mint void
It outspeeds with scarf surr
cyan smelt
scarf chi yu will always be better
mint void
But needs Timid
latent ember
And do what?
would a choice scarf tapu lele shadow ball kill calyrex?
solid frigate
CIR TR Glacial Lance
Gg shake my hand
mint void
@latent ember yeah its quad effective
mint void
would a choice scarf tapu lele shadow ball kill calyrex?
T8ng is u die first
latent ember
how so?
mint void
Or fire into a tera
cyan smelt
surely sash would be better
latent ember
i guess i'm worried how the split between generational gimmicks will work
solid frigate
116+ Atk Calyrex-Ice Glacial Lance vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Necrozma-Ultra: 138-164 (67.6 - 80.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
GG shake my hands
mint void
I think its gonna be different modes
latent ember
maybe you just choose one and go into ranked? but then everyone would just choose gigantamax lmao
cyan smelt
there'll be different formats
latent ember
I think its gonna be different modes
but like, the selling point of the trailer was a mega pokemon and a tera pokemon in the same match
mint void
maybe you just choose one and go into ranked? but then everyone would just choos...
D9nt think so. As long as the official format has a set gimmick that will be played
solid frigate
252 SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Necrozma-Ultra in Electric Terrain: 92-108 (45 - 52.9%) -- 30.9% chance to 2HKO
It's Still 2HKO LMAO
mint void
but like, the selling point of the trailer was a mega pokemon and a tera pokemon...
Yeah. But I also expect a normal official mode without all gimmicks jo8ned in one mode. Idk feels way to chaotic
cyan smelt
if only regieleki could learn snarl
solid frigate
well idk it does not feel like a mon will learn that
latent ember
252 SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD N...
even though ultra necrozma resists elec??? š
solid frigate
its Miraidon
Ya know
The mon that fucks with the logic of Buffing stats
dense latch
if only regieleki could learn snarl
my goat doesnt need snarl š£ļøš„ im coping so hard that would be sick
dense latch
even though ultra necrozma resists elec??? š
thatās miraidon for you
noble hatch
is it just me or does it feel like we might be getting a regulation during gen 10/with champions that will allow mythicals
cyan smelt
it sucks that eleki and drago don't have much in the way of coverage
noble hatch
especially considering how much more available it feels like gamefreak is starting to make them
chrome knot
local tmrw gangs all here ^-^
cyan smelt
gl with local
chrome knot
ty
dense latch
feel like eleki wouldāve been fine without the nerf to the ability
dense latch
local tmrw gangs all here ^-^
good luck!!
solid frigate
local tmrw gangs all here ^-^
yep i am not questioning it
latent ember
thatās miraidon for you
oh wait but wouldn't tapu lele's choice scarf moonblast outspeed and oneshot miraidon?
solid frigate
gl on the Locals Emma
252 SpA Tapu Lele Moonblast vs. 100 HP / 4 SpD Miraidon: 144-170 (76.5 - 90.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
PFFT
ARUBEGA'S SET TANKS IT
chrome knot
why lele?
solid frigate
i think its Arubega's idk
solid frigate
arubega is 44 hp iirc
that still does not help the Lele allegations
dense latch
i could see scarf lele going modest tbh
cyan smelt
tapu koko and miraidon oh no
astral kelp
Isnt lele like not in gen 9
dense latch
yea
solid frigate
Isnt lele like not in gen 9
yeah but someone is coping about it
dense latch
this is a hypothetical for champions i think
chrome knot
waow tapus are
latent ember
252 SpA Tapu Lele Moonblast vs. 100 HP / 4 SpD Miraidon: 144-170 (76.5 - 90.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
also tapu lele outspeeds
dense latch
i miss tapu fini
chrome knot
cosmetic mons for offence š
latent ember
this is a hypothetical for champions i think
yes
solid frigate
252 SpA Tapu Lele Moonblast vs. 100 HP / 4 SpD Miraidon: 144-170 (76.5 - 90.4%) ...
so Miraidon gets Terrain adv
solid frigate
Miraidon runs between 187 to 205 speed in level 50
latent ember
wait maybe?
solid frigate
Tapu Lele+Scarf outspeeds it
latent ember
does choice scarf work that way? like it affects the actual total speed stat as soon as the match starts?
cyan smelt
i bet dondozo will still be relevant by the time champions rolls around
solid frigate
yes thats why Scarf Kyorge isn't that common unless you have HO TornOgre
astral kelp
btw what do you guys think of this as a concept
latent ember
will the terrain loss even matter that much though?
solid frigate
btw what do you guys think of this as a concept
no.
latent ember
still gets the kill, no?
astral kelp
like ignore the evs and items
solid frigate
will the terrain loss even matter that much though?
remains Fake Out privliges
remains Prankster moves privliges
latent ember
mmmm i see
cyan smelt
lele would not like a heavy slam from iron hands
latent ember
so miraidon's partner could ruin it for necrozma
astral kelp
tera steel tera blast drago one shots flutter :3
solid frigate
lele would not like a heavy slam from iron hands
+If Hands can tank a +2 Astral Barrage then yea
chrome knot
yep i am not questioning it
its csr not base calyrex I promise
solid frigate
tera steel tera blast drago one shots flutter :3
Iron Crown,Zamazenta,Iron Hands:
latent ember
why has bulbepedia forsaken me
solid frigate
its csr not base calyrex I promise
yea ik
btw Emma,CIR in GC?
i'm doing it in next GC
chrome knot
cir is too honest but its still rly good
lots of people play kyogre and cir just STRUGGLES into kyogre
solid frigate
cir is too honest but its still rly good
ok CIR and Honest in the same sentence feels illegal lmao
solid frigate
lots of people play kyogre and cir just STRUGGLES into kyogre
doesn't some CIR still run Tera Water?
chrome knot
ok but what are u doing back š
solid frigate
ok but what are u doing back š
idfk thats what i am trying to solve-
foggy lodge
Gang
craggy dagger
local tmrw gangs all here ^-^
ā¦
cyan smelt
force it into tera grass with bolt?
cyan smelt
p2 ursa?
craggy dagger
idfk thats what i am trying to solve-
grass knot?
cyan smelt
don't some caly-is run seed bomb
chrome knot
solid frigate
grass knot?
Nova,you saw my GC team.
foggy lodge
This team got 4th at worlds 2022 and I think a similar concept could actually be really strong https://pokepast.es/421b770cb659e094
obv CA CIR, maybe Regieleki could go out for something different like raging bolt but Regieleki already works with CIR
solid frigate
Paul Chua moment
craggy dagger
Nova,you saw my GC team.
yeah-
exactly
dense latch
honestly love regieleki for the kyogre matchup with cir
solid frigate
one thing
dense latch
super strong pin
solid frigate
Bolt is better
2.i don't have Eleki
dense latch
yea itās def better in most teams
astral kelp
oh nvm i guess miraidon hjust one shots bulky eternatus with volt switch
astral kelp
such an insane mon its crazy
left bobcat
Be afraid
astral kelp
actually i misplayed because i assumed he was going like timid but nah
fluid fiber
Anyone have any ideas for mon #6? https://pokepast.es/0a839e6cd4e71928
astral kelp
he was going slow miraidon so it outspeeded eternatus in tr
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
astral kelp
huh?
solid frigate
Anyone have any ideas for mon #6? https://pokepast.es/0a839e6cd4e71928
Dark Shifu
Nah Probably something like Raging Bolt would be fun
fluid fiber
~~Dark Shifu~~
Nah Probably something like Raging Bolt would be fun
What Raging Bolt Set?
solid frigate
What Raging Bolt Set?
Assault Vest or Booster Energy
fluid fiber
Thunderclap, Thunderbolt, Draco Meteor, Protect?
solid frigate
Thunderclap, Thunderbolt, Draco Meteor, Protect?
for booster yea
foggy lodge
Which is mostly used for hard TR because the opponent has to prep for both modes
But I don't see like what they do outside of that lead
And Riolu is a pick
fluid fiber
Twind supports IC sweeps, Riolu lets IC sweep through physical leads easily, Torkoal Lilligant beats team that have a poor matchup,
solid frigate
the only reason i want you to use Bolt cuz your Kyogre MU is ABYSSMAL
foggy lodge
Twind supports IC sweeps, Riolu lets IC sweep through physical leads easily, Tor...
For coaching mons there are better options
Like yeah funny prankster coaching but its still a coaching bot
solid frigate
Valiant,Urshifu Scarf sets
dense latch
valiant seems like a great option here ngl
foggy lodge
Scarf annihilape
dense latch
wide guard will prob help patch some matchups
solid frigate
ok scarf Ape is a good one
fluid fiber
Like yeah funny prankster coaching but its still a coaching bot
It resets sun, it boosts Caly, it has priority to break sashes
solid frigate
i think i perfected the Ape Build before
foggy lodge
Final gambit + coaching + anti inci option and you can go for a more hard TR version
foggy lodge
It resets sun, it boosts Caly, it has priority to break sashes
Ok resets sun and then what
fluid fiber
Final gambit + coaching + anti inci option and you can go for a more hard TR ver...
I don't want a hard TR team
foggy lodge
Lilligant + Riolu sounds super mid pair and torkoal is way too slow
dense latch
why do peopl enot use thunderous
doesnāt really do much in the current meta
astral kelp
doesnt it do the same like
prankster tr
foggy lodge
why do peopl enot use thunderous
Thundurus incarnate is good imo
chrome knot
@craggy dagger wanna see a fun spread
solid frigate
doesnt it do the same like
prankster tr
it does not learn tw
dense latch
I don't want a hard TR team <:GengarSad:669500451795763209>
iād suggest to just move away from lilikoal if you dont want hard tr
foggy lodge
Well it was good it got top 4 at Bologna special event
For rn's meta idk
But priority eerie impulse is super strong imo
dense latch
and instead use other mons that can benefit from the tailwind mode
solid frigate
i did try Thundy T cuz its fun but short lived
dense latch
urshifu, landorus, ogerpon, bolt, etc
fluid fiber
iād suggest to just move away from lilikoal if you dont want hard tr
I just want to playtest my theory of a team lol, I just need a 6th mon and I'm trying to figure out who would best benefit from TR Twind
I'll go back to the drawing board if it doesn't work, but I want to try it
With just the five I went from 1000 to 1300 almost instantly, so I wanna see if I can hit 1500
dense latch
try bolt ig
fluid fiber
Then I'll try Bo3