#competitive_discussion

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tiny karmaBOT
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Pokémon No. 784: Kommo-o
Types

Dragon/Fighting

Abilities

Bulletproof, Soundproof, Overcoat (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

75/110/125/100/105/85

Total

600

Other Formes

Kommo-o-Totem

craggy dagger
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Awwwweee
BulbaOWO

real prairie
pallid hare
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actually, Urshifu is from the Isle of Mann

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so its still British

real prairie
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Poor Ireland just ignored

solid frigate
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we joined a server for Reg I

craggy dagger
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wait really-??
the only water types that gets foul play are wash rotom the slowpoke line(s) and wiglett/wugtrio

solid frigate
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also yes

craggy dagger
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that’s kinda cool though

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but also forces people to lock in wash rotom 😭

spiral ridge
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lol

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Does it just get it from base rotom?

craggy dagger
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p sure yeah

spiral ridge
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Makes sense

spiral ridge
solid frigate
spiral ridge
solid frigate
fallow palm
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can somone make me a team with zamazenta incinearoar rillabbom and raging bolt what last two mons should i add?

solid frigate
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or Urshifu and Flutter Mane.

real prairie
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There was a triple restricted format in 2010?

solid frigate
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its literally just Weather Duo+Dialga

real prairie
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Yeah just saw that's when Ludicolo won

fallow palm
solid frigate
spiral ridge
gentle cragBOT
solid frigate
spiral ridge
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Would be deplorable if today

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Horse dog lizard GardeSip

mint shuttle
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is there an easier way 2 get a perfect iv ditto besides js catching hella wild ones and hoping 4 the best?

spiral ridge
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Ditto raid

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High star ones guaranteed 5 IV and high chance 6(?)

mint shuttle
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so a 5 star or smt?

spiral ridge
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Yeh
I think they can be 6 too

mint shuttle
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ohhh alr appreciate u

next stump
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you could trade as well

mint shuttle
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yea i went and put one 4 a masuda method one but ima have 2 wait a minute 4 that

spiral ridge
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Masuda is shiny

solid frigate
spiral ridge
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Oh you mean one for masuda oops 😭

mint shuttle
next stump
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IMO catching wild shinies is the move in SV

mint shuttle
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i js do eggs cause i often dont have an oppurtunity 2 get the 30 minutes out of the sandwhich and only have one switch so i cant do the infinite herba mystica thing

next stump
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try wonder trading through pokemon home

mint shuttle
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till i get a ditto?

next stump
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yeah or see who is offering one on the forum thing

mint shuttle
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yea everyone has an english one 😦

craggy dagger
atomic mural
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whats the idea behind koraidon paired with galarian weezing

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my brain cant figure it out

chrome knot
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flight done, now for a 4 hour drive home

craggy dagger
left bobcat
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Herro

chrome knot
astral kelp
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oh ic thats pretty big

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lmao dondozo

atomic mural
astral kelp
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this guy is USELESS lmao

mint void
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who is that?

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I guess cant be taunted?

astral kelp
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donbozo

left bobcat
astral kelp
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why does regirock see no play

atomic mural
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zamazenta better

left bobcat
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Cuz that typing is ahhh

astral kelp
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jesus christ

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rock has 5 weaknesses what the fuck

craggy dagger
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yup

left bobcat
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It hits fire, ice, bug, and flying for super effective

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But ice and bug types are dookie

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And water types are more common

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So rock types are just eh

astral kelp
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so thats why regis suck

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typing

left bobcat
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Yeah

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And ursh exists sooooooo

astral kelp
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tera grass

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also i think even ursh doesnt do enough to ohko

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300 defense is a LOT

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im more worried about like hydropump

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the ogre

left bobcat
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Then a fire type or a flying type just shits on it

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Especially against something like chi yu

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You’re better off using something like zama if that’s the case

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It’s got good bulk decent speed

foggy lodge
astral kelp
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252+ Atk Urshifu Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Regirock on a critical hit: 96-114 (51.3 - 60.9%) -- approx. 2HKO

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yea that definitevly kills lol

craggy dagger
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tera waber

astral kelp
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no like

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2 surging strike hits he doesnt even need to tera

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like what a ridiculous mon

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can someone explain why rock is weak to ground

craggy dagger
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cuz earthquakes cause rock slides

astral kelp
chrome knot
astral kelp
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why would you tera normal like wtf

cyan smelt
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<@&727593710816067594> someone posted something that's not a rental in #rental_teams again

raven sun
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Taken care of, have a good one!

atomic mural
bold geode
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Block Spurs from the Among Us

chrome knot
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was goated for the mirror NekoLaugh

astral kelp
atomic mural
astral kelp
foggy lodge
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Water being super effective against rock doesn't make sense like yeah it eroses rocks

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But it takes hundreds of years for that lmao

craggy dagger
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well

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have you ever seen a dam break?

pallid hare
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fast acting erosion

craggy dagger
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enough pressure and water can basically cut through anything

real prairie
real prairie
astral kelp
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Honestly tho

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I think regirock is underrated

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Every pokemon has its counters

real prairie
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Regirock is okay in singles

slim turret
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Eh

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Its mid ngl

craggy dagger
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it’s
not that good in singles iirc.
it’s okay as a stall mon but rock type isn’t the best defensive type

slim turret
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Its kinda bad

craggy dagger
chrome knot
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haaiaiiii

craggy dagger
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got home safe?

real prairie
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i was trying to be nice lol

chrome knot
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noooo

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home in 2:40

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im so incredibly sleepy tho

real prairie
mint void
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What did she expect tho?

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Like 4 hits in one slot is wild

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Ngl but u need 3 into blastoise anyway

torn parrot
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I thought it could hit everybody for at least 50

slim turret
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That’s fair

next stump
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what’s the next regional?

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is there an EU one soon

real prairie
craggy dagger
real prairie
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Which I'm missing again because of the wedding this time

craggy dagger
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-# unless you’re driving, in which case don’t

real prairie
next stump
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stockholm? or another city

solid frigate
next stump
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shoutout the improvement

chrome knot
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especially bc i work tomorrow,,,,

spiral ridge
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ope

next stump
chrome knot
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real

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leaving gf into 11 hour travel into working next day like just kill meeee

split cairn
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Does increasing Ditto’s transform move PP increases the copied moves PP from 5 to 8?

mint void
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Concept art for emboar lol

left bobcat
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Its a me

mint void
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Bro is cooking

left bobcat
mint void
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Imo a horrible concept art for ZA sonce its way to similar to the old one

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But as a design I fuck with it

left bobcat
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With it

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You ain’t with it

real prairie
split cairn
real prairie
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Did we just post the same thing 🤣

split cairn
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How do we send gifs again? My just go as a link GengarSad

real prairie
split cairn
next stump
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i think you need a certain server level

split cairn
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With the help of Garganacl, i finally defeated CSR, tornadus team WobbuParty

next stump
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😄 nice

bold geode
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@next stump y'know what I want bro
I want them to like
Keep single restricted or make it double either way idc right
But give us the Tapus bro

next stump
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that would be hype

tiny karmaBOT
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Pokémon No. 787: Tapu Bulu
Types

Grass/Fairy

Abilities

Grassy Surge, Telepathy (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

70/130/115/85/95/75

Total

570

real prairie
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Nat dex reg I would be WILD

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Although Xerneas back 🤮

cyan smelt
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with champions we could potentially have xerneas with tera

craggy dagger
real prairie
craggy dagger
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i highly doubt that xerneas would see much play

real prairie
craggy dagger
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steel poison and fire types can eat up flutter mane

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especially cuz the respective types in the meta atm are kinda bulky 😭

mighty stump
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Resists don’t matter jf ur gonna boost stats lol

craggy dagger
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yeah but flutter isn’t boosting

mighty stump
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Specs + BoR

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Booster SpA

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Tera Fairy

craggy dagger
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then zac just ohko’s flutter. cuz it outspeeds?

real prairie
craggy dagger
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and also
it boosts all fairy moves which means your opponents’ also get boosted

mighty stump
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I’m just saying talking about how Xern won’t see much play cuz resists exist isn’t going to be an accurate take

real prairie
mighty stump
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Especially if Xern gets further defensive capabilities from Tera or Tera Blast coverage

craggy dagger
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ionno
it just feels like xern won’t see much play in general cuz of other hard hitting stuff in the meta

astral kelp
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lunala won something

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thats fucking crazy

craggy dagger
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though tera ground would be something to watch out for

real prairie
craggy dagger
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i suppose

astral kelp
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i wanna see his ev sopread

craggy dagger
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a magician never reveals their secret-

forest arrow
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They released the team should be accessible

craggy dagger
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though rentals

astral kelp
mighty stump
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+2 252 SpA Fairy Aura Tera Fairy Xerneas Moonblast vs. 204 HP / 12 SpD Zacian-Crowned: 127-150 (65.8 - 77.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

forest arrow
forest arrow
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@astral kelp

astral kelp
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oh sweet

mighty stump
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Idk how I feel abt the Lunala team

astral kelp
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i really want to try that lunala wochien set i saw

rustic mountain
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in terms of winning it all

astral kelp
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someone else got top 32 with lunala

mighty stump
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That’s what I’m thinking

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The matchup spread is quite thin

astral kelp
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she still dies to incin knock off tho lmao

forest arrow
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Basically take tangs team and swap CIR Amoongus for Lunala Indeedee

rustic mountain
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itll b around but something thats gna be like the other top restricteds i dont think it fits as consistent. i think this was just a smart call and overall solid mus. now that ppl see it won idt itll have the same effectiveness

mighty stump
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Imo best ancillary members of the metagame rn

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Roaring Moon/Hearthflame

astral kelp
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what website is this btw

cyan smelt
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idk i prefer rockpon

mighty stump
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Its ok

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Hearthflame can chunk Terapagos through Tera Shell

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Plus it threatens Zama, CIR

rustic mountain
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i think the benefit of hearthflame is its flexibility between being more defensive while also having the ability to go all out offense

mighty stump
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Groudon

astral kelp
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this guy calling csr a fraud is really fucking funny

mighty stump
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Even resists get chunked so

rustic mountain
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the other ogerpons are all one or the other essentially

cyan smelt
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i kinda like tinkaton too

mighty stump
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as the OG Tinkaton player - it aint it

foggy lodge
astral kelp
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yknbow whats even crazier tho

mighty stump
astral kelp
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2nd place in that tournament was running galade WITHOUT wide guard

mighty stump
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Overall most consistent Restricted outside of Calys is Kyogre

foggy lodge
astral kelp
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and this guy COOKED

astral kelp
foggy lodge
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I don't think the Lunala team is gonna have a very big impact on the meta

next stump
foggy lodge
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Probably gonna dissapear in 2 weeks

rustic mountain
forest arrow
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Psyspam was just a good call into the regional

foggy lodge
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But anyways Terapagos is winning stockholm next trust

rustic mountain
astral kelp
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this got 42nd

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its interesting too

mighty stump
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Forever a Terapagos believer

next stump
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3 more weeks till we hopefully get Reg I need

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news*

astral kelp
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kinda similiar to my lunala team

rustic mountain
mighty stump
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Lol

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Ik peoples been on the CM/Subpagos

rustic mountain
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yea

atomic mural
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do koraidon weezing teams have max max koraidons or are they bulkier?

mighty stump
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HO is pretty nice though

astral kelp
mighty stump
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Marco’s team

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Its ok

foggy lodge
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Yeah its been around since like a month

mighty stump
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Magma Storm is too inaccurate for me speaking from experience

foggy lodge
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It won the second VR and most italian players are using

astral kelp
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i like seing scream tailk

mighty stump
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As much as trapping is valuable

rustic mountain
foggy lodge
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Also a variant with Flutter over scream tail did really well at vancouver

mighty stump
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I made a variant of Suica’s HOPagos team and it’s been smooth sailing

foggy lodge
foggy lodge
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Yuxiang Wang was using Chien-Pao over Heatran

astral kelp
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turn 1 tera plus funny one shot attack is crazy

mighty stump
foggy lodge
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Yeah like pao flutter could be working imo

mighty stump
astral kelp
rustic mountain
mighty stump
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Won my NPAA match with it

foggy lodge
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Heatran mostly works as a "2nd restricted" in a way where it comes to help in some bad match ups with tera like Zamazenta or Koraidon so yeah

rustic mountain
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also i just gta make a rental code but i have it in game ill give u the code too

mighty stump
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Oh sick

foggy lodge
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But its still a team of Terapagos + 5 supports

mighty stump
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I’ve been lazy to play

foggy lodge
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Just that Heatran isn't full support lol

rustic mountain
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i think our spreads prolly have some differentiation but shouldnt be too drastic

mighty stump
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Nah no problem

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Gonna explore more Pagos

rustic mountain
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fair i gta use pagos too

astral kelp
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this is such a cool team

foggy lodge
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The hardest hard TR ever

mighty stump
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Just looks like psyspam

astral kelp
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it got second

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thats whats crazy

foggy lodge
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4 psychics in big 2025

forest arrow
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Not as good as 4 rocks

foggy lodge
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And I didn't expect Hatterene to be used tbh

astral kelp
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yeah same

mighty stump
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Just another day of psyspam flying under the radar and like

astral kelp
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i feel like youd either use torkoal or hattarene

mighty stump
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its generally not great

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but you fish it right and like tada

foggy lodge
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Yeah

astral kelp
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its the galade that facinates me

foggy lodge
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MU fishing regional😭

tiny karmaBOT
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Pokémon No. 475: Gallade
Types

Psychic/Fighting

Abilities

Steadfast, Sharpness, Justified (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

68/125/65/65/115/80

Total

518

Other Formes

Gallade-Mega

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Ability: Sharpness

This Pokemon's slicing moves have their power multiplied by 1.5.

astral kelp
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i could see how that would do a lot of damage

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but idk its a weird speed tier

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oooh upper hand is anti fake out interesting

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thougths on bullet seed sawbuck

foggy lodge
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Its not mandatory trying to use every pokemon of the game

astral kelp
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BAHAHA

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i paid for the whole game im using the whole game

forest arrow
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Good luck with that

foggy lodge
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Fair reasoning tho

forest arrow
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Yeah can’t be mad at it

foggy lodge
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Like

forest arrow
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but glhf

foggy lodge
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He has a point actually lol

astral kelp
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problem

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sceptile is too slow

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NAH IT ONLY PROCKS ONCE THATS SO LAME

chrome knot
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type shit

type shit

astral kelp
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regi drago suicine 0-0

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love it

foggy lodge
craggy dagger
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lol

left bobcat
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Do you really know how to play the game

bold geode
bold geode
left bobcat
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THEN TIGHTEN UP

bold geode
torn parrot
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i promise you guys people do not actually hate the snow white movie at all they just hate the actress

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i think 90% of world actualy just doesnt care about the movie, but finds the actress annoying

mint void
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Random but correct yeah

strange fjord
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you know what else is random? this 1800s player using solosis

real prairie
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Morning all

mighty stump
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I am cooking

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for once

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It's been a while

cyan smelt
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terapagos?

mighty stump
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Yep

cyan smelt
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it's not coaching body press terapagos is it

mighty stump
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Who the fuck

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Would ever run that

cyan smelt
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no idea

mighty stump
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THEN WHY WOULD YOU SUGGEST IT

charred saddle
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idk man idk

cyan smelt
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i just saw it while watching replays

mighty stump
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knp lo tb" jdi nasi kecil

charred saddle
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castorice kakaawkwakwa

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HSR ada character namanya castorice

mighty stump
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nasi besar oos emg

charred saddle
mighty stump
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Wogerpon

charred saddle
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uh made it myself kekpoli

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Zapdos --> Wurshifu
Firepon --> waterpon

charred saddle
real prairie
mighty stump
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I always have reasoning to back up my builds

real prairie
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hey, i didnt say it

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😉

mighty stump
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I forgot how satisfying it is to build

charred saddle
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lefties calmmind pagos? or specs

mighty stump
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Specs

charred saddle
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oo

mighty stump
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Anyone got that link to that multi-calc

real prairie
cyan smelt
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looks like more miraidon teams might be running volcarona to deal with rilla

mighty stump
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Ur opp played so badly wtf

real prairie
cyan smelt
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nobody expects the tsareena

real prairie
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free wins Kal

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lol

cyan smelt
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nice

real prairie
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you were watching lol

cyan smelt
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yeah i wanted to see something good because he's highly ranked but he dipped

real prairie
mighty stump
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Plus Urshifu could still just CC Ludicolo and win off that in the Incin 1v1

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Since I suspect Urshifu would be Sash

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Also idk if you wanted to stagger KOs on T2

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It wasn't really ideal since then you had to trade Tsareena for Bolt and give that boost to CIR

cyan smelt
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Next time I play a miraidon team I'm gonna have to watch out for volcarona

real prairie
cyan smelt
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Which tera is caly I usually because I thought they were running fairy for a while

real prairie
mighty stump
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Urshifu could just Protect and GG

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Cause they would have sussed out the Speed tier that turn

real prairie
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just realised, had Incin surived and they target Ludi i win anyway from rocky helmet

cyan smelt
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Why didn't you encore the tr?

real prairie
mighty stump
real prairie
mighty stump
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and do like negative damage to Urshifu

real prairie
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but urshifu would be dead?

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energy ball + rocky helmet

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on the last turn

mighty stump
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So you're talking about if Incin survived, KO'd Calyrex, and the scenario where Ludicolo KOs Urshifu through Rocky Helmet + Energy Ball

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That's a lot of IFs

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How much attack you have on Incin

real prairie
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the only IF is that knock off KO'ing CIR

real prairie
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theres also the possibility i don't underspeed urshifu though, although i doubt that

mighty stump
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252+ Atk Incineroar Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Tera-Water Calyrex-Ice Rider through Reflect: 39-47 (18.8 - 22.7%) -- possible 5HKO

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You highrolled

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Lol

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So you never would have KO'd

mighty stump
real prairie
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ah fuck i forgot about the reflect

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yeah only a crit wins me that

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shame

mighty stump
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Happens

real prairie
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thanks for the insight Fu ❤️

cyan smelt
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What does your team do against tr anyway

real prairie
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incin is also 0 speed brave, quite literally my only TR asset lol

cyan smelt
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I can see a problem if you ever have to face ursaluna or hatterene

real prairie
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yeah, can see why they would cause an issue

cyan smelt
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Ursaluna is very scary in tr

charred saddle
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Fu wheeze

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Tofu FU wheeze

cyan smelt
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That bwahacough guy is still using ttar lycanroc

cyan smelt
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True

mighty stump
charred saddle
bold geode
chrome knot
charred saddle
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ooo thats a nice calc

bold geode
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Fr

grizzled island
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Is it possible to use jirachi competitively?

chrome knot
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in vgc doubles no

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& in game singles

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other unofficial showdown metagames yes

grizzled island
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Ah, well that sucks

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Would be cool if I could use them for actually tournaments

polar canyon
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Kinda wanna try making porygon z work tbh

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I just like the guy

mint void
polar canyon
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Feeling nostalgic about early swsh bss

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That stuff was what got me into trying competitive

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I could never go back but man

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Stalling people with unaware was funny

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Can't believe I liked bss

left bobcat
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So unfunny

grizzled island
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Yeah im just getting into competitive and am super excited to try out some day

mint void
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JoeUgarte playing vs transform smeargl lmao

real prairie
polar canyon
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Why does calyrex ice not learn nasty plot

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I'm not gonna use that ofc

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It's just that I noticed showdown doesn't let it have it but I thought both forms shared the same moveset except the signature move

tiny karmaBOT
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Calyrex-Ice's moveset:
Physical Moves

Assurance, Avalanche, Body Press, Body Slam, Bulldoze, Bullet Seed, Close Combat, Crunch, Double Kick, Double-Edge, Facade, Giga Impact, Glacial Lance, Heavy Slam, High Horsepower, Icicle Crash, Icicle Spear, Lash Out, Megahorn, Outrage, Pay Day, Payback, Pound, Seed Bomb, Smart Strike, Solar Blade, Stomp, Stomping Tantrum, Superpower, Tackle, Take Down, Thrash, Throat Chop, Trailblaze, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Blizzard, Confusion, Draining Kiss, Energy Ball, Expanding Force, Future Sight, Giga Drain, Grass Knot, Hyper Beam, Ice Beam, Icy Wind, Leaf Storm, Magical Leaf, Mega Drain, Mud Shot, Pollen Puff, Psybeam, Psychic, Psyshock, Round, Snarl, Snore, Solar Beam, Stored Power, Swift, Tera Blast, Tri Attack, Uproar

Status Moves

Agility, Ally Switch, Aromatherapy, Baton Pass, Calm Mind, Curse, Encore, Endure, Grassy Terrain, Gravity, Growth, Guard Swap, Hail, Heal Pulse, Helping Hand, Imprison, Iron Defense, Leech Seed, Life Dew, Light Screen, Magic Room, Metronome, Mist, Power Swap, Protect, Psych Up, Psychic Terrain, Reflect, Rest, Roar, Safeguard, Scary Face, Skill Swap, Sleep Talk, Snowscape, Speed Swap, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swords Dance, Tail Whip, Taunt, Torment, Trick, Trick Room, Wonder Room

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Calyrex-Ice.

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Calyrex-Shadow's moveset:
Physical Moves

Assurance, Body Press, Body Slam, Bulldoze, Bullet Seed, Crunch, Double Kick, Double-Edge, Facade, Foul Play, Giga Impact, Lash Out, Pay Day, Payback, Phantom Force, Pound, Psycho Cut, Seed Bomb, Solar Blade, Stomp, Stomping Tantrum, Tackle, Take Down, Thrash, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Astral Barrage, Confusion, Dark Pulse, Draining Kiss, Energy Ball, Expanding Force, Future Sight, Giga Drain, Grass Knot, Hex, Hyper Beam, Leaf Storm, Magical Leaf, Mega Drain, Mud Shot, Night Shade, Pollen Puff, Psybeam, Psychic, Psyshock, Round, Shadow Ball, Snarl, Snore, Solar Beam, Stored Power, Swift, Tera Blast, Tri Attack, Uproar

Status Moves

Agility, Ally Switch, Aromatherapy, Baton Pass, Calm Mind, Confuse Ray, Curse, Disable, Encore, Endure, Grassy Terrain, Gravity, Growth, Guard Swap, Haze, Heal Pulse, Helping Hand, Imprison, Leech Seed, Life Dew, Light Screen, Magic Room, Metronome, Nasty Plot, Pain Split, Power Swap, Protect, Psych Up, Psychic Terrain, Reflect, Rest, Safeguard, Scary Face, Skill Swap, Sleep Talk, Speed Swap, Substitute, Sunny Day, Tail Whip, Taunt, Trick, Trick Room, Will-O-Wisp, Wonder Room

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Calyrex-Shadow.

real prairie
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A few differences

polar canyon
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I really wanna get back to competitive but don't really like how most legendaries play

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Maybe I'll give in and just make an ice rider team

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I may not like how it plays but if it wins it wins I guess

tiny vector
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What's the quickest way to get caught up on the competitive scene? Not played since very early days of SV.

polar canyon
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Imo just watching people

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And checking news on recent events

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Maybe usage stats

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Sometimes when I haven't played in a while I hop on showdown and watch some random public battles

tiny vector
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Got sources for any of these things?

polar canyon
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Showdown for watching live, youtube for recent pokemon livestreamed events

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Just looking up recent championships so you can see people's teams

chrome knot
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this team is kinda fun idk tho GiggleHehe

polar canyon
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Hi

polar canyon
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Nothing too crazy just the reliable

chrome knot
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exactly

polar canyon
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That's fun

chrome knot
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Ian Lee brought it to vanc and placed well w/ it

polar canyon
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I'm so out of the loop with that I don't know any big names on competitive events other than like, the biggest ones

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Hey

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Caly shadow vivillon team yay or nay

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Someone's probably done that before

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Dont know if I'd rather use friend guard or compound eyes tho

chrome knot
polar canyon
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Also does it take a bleakwind with friend guard

chrome knot
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Life Orb Tera-Grass Calyrex-Shadow Rider Giga Drain vs. 132 HP / 12 SpD Kyogre in Grassy Terrain: 174-205 (90.6 - 106.7%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO

chrome knot
polar canyon
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Nice numbers

chrome knot
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just not showing my spreads

polar canyon
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Or did you just cut out spa

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Ah I see

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I usually share my spreads for input or confirmation

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Since I know I'm not good at the game

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I'm probably technically above the average player but just because of the amount of existing players that aren't good

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Never really had that much motivation since I don't really go to in person events

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You've been to one recently right?

chrome knot
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yeah I just got home from vancouver

craggy dagger
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hi

bright spire
bright spire
craggy dagger
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hi hammmm !!!
GengHeart

chrome knot
bright spire
polar canyon
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I need online friends who give me a silly hi when I'm in chat tbh that's what I need in life rn

polar canyon
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I saw that you were upset but I hope it was still worth the trip

polar canyon
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I bet you can actually make a lot of similar interest connections going to live events like that

real prairie
polar canyon
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Can you even imagine being in the middle of a giant stadium with everyone watching and judging your plays

craggy dagger
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how would that even work-

polar canyon
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Actually can you imagine being in that situation and losing

craggy dagger
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god
The pressure for a 1v1 when everyone is watching like that would be horrible

polar canyon
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But knowing myself I know I can't handle that

chrome knot
polar canyon
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I'm very glad

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If I ever have a semester with less study load for college I think I'll look into any south america regionals

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Or like, minor events lol I'm not ready for a regional

craggy dagger
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if anything
go with a spectators pass to get a sense of what the vibe is like

polar canyon
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First I need to actually go to where an event is happening

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Honestly. Realistically I might only ever actually attend to events like that when I'm done with college, with a stable job and not living with my parents

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But if opportunity arises and I have a semester with less work I think I'll try something

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I hope it's never too late to start taking the game seriously because my plan is to do it late lol

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Baffles me how some very young people can be incredible at the game while I could never

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Keanu

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I guess some people are just born with it

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Not undermining all the effort and practice

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But I doubt that with the same amount of practice and training as him I'd have the same amount of skill

craggy dagger
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well
i feel like theres also just
experience with handling public pressure in general

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and if you're good at that, then you'd generally be more comfortable and calm during something like appearing on regionals

polar canyon
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Unfortunate

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I think I'm good with any pressure except public pressure

atomic mural
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does anyone know how koraidon on weezing teams are EVd?

polar canyon
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What's the weezing for

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Is it ability shield koraidon

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Honestly I'm still totally unsure on this one

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Asking for feedback

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All I know is I wanna build something that has mandibuzz

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I like how mandibuzz plays in this ruleset

mint void
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whu

polar canyon
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No idea what to bring with it tho, I've had it do well with terapagos but still don't even have a set restricted I wanna build with

polar canyon
atomic mural
foggy lodge
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Yes its ability shield

polar canyon
foggy lodge
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With specs flutter and scarf chi-yu

polar canyon
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Mandibuzz is a sleeper pick and I'll die on that hill

foggy lodge
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Probably a lot of 252 252 4 on that team

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What's the Tatsugiri item

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Dondozo for sure has a more balanced spread

mighty stump
polar canyon
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Hi tofu

mighty stump
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Hello

atomic mural
foggy lodge
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Maybe bulky

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You could search some spreads on vgcpastes to atleast use temporarily and then change it to whatever you feel you need

atomic mural
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also what is the idea behind dondozo on wezing teams

polar canyon
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I think mandibuzz is cool, can do galarian moltres stuff just slightly different with a bit more phys bulk and a bit less offense

atomic mural
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im really interested in trying something in double restricted

polar canyon
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Doesn't require way too much investment to love a glacial lance while goltres has to lean heavily into it if it wants to do that

polar canyon
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So I like keeping it in and trading damage with it with a foul play

foggy lodge
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Stall is doing fine in the current meta

polar canyon
foggy lodge
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Dozo Ting-Lu in Zama/CSR comps, the perish mode of Wolfey, toxic spikes/poison gas Geezing

atomic mural
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vgc pastes only has one weezing koraidon and it dosent have evs

polar canyon
atomic mural
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yeah

polar canyon
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You have the whole movesets and items so at least you have a base to work with

mint void
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Mandibuzz
Ability: Overcoat
Level: 50
Tera Type: Dark
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Snarl
  • Foul Play
  • Taunt

I guess u want that +Speed control?

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Maybe feather dance?

real prairie
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Joking obviously, nice to see you back bro

polar canyon
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But it takes a glacial lance and is 1 point faster in tailwind than timid max speed csr

mint void
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Mandibuzz
Ability: Overcoat
Level: 50
Tera Type: Dark
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 92 Spe
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Snarl
  • Foul Play
  • Taunt
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that does that

craggy dagger
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where'd the rest of the EVs go

mint void
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Maybe figure out a special move to live?

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Good rolls for gleam from miraidon?

polar canyon
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252/-0/36/4/+124/92

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I run snarl foul play taunt tw

craggy dagger
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no protect?

polar canyon
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Nope

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Protect is good but I saw more value in the moves I'm using

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If I change anything it's taunt for protect tho

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Unless if I were to put it on a team that doesn't really need tw

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Or gets speed control from something else

mint void
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item?

polar canyon
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Sitrus

mint void
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mid

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its good vs the horses

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so berry kinda sucks. maybe covert

polar canyon
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That's the point yeah

craggy dagger
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252+ Atk Calyrex-Ice Glacial Lance vs. 252 HP / 36 Def Mandibuzz: 186-218 (85.7 - 100.4%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO
huh

polar canyon
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I can try covert

craggy dagger
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why not lefties if you want healing

polar canyon
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Guess I misremembered but still a 6.3%

polar canyon
craggy dagger
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why not run more def instead of speed

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unless speed is calced-
.-.

polar canyon
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It is

craggy dagger
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ah

polar canyon
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For timid csr if you're in tailwind

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Which is a very realistic situation

mint void
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maybe see to live Lorb DK from Tera Fairy CSR?

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ok yeah u live

foggy lodge
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Life orb donkey kong?!?!

craggy dagger
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lmao

polar canyon
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I think the reason I didn't run covert was because since I ran it with terapagos and often led with those 2, terapagos was always a more juicy target for fake out and I'd just protect out the fake out

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And covert ended up kinda useless

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I think I'll do terapagos again with the usual fwg incin urshi rilla

lost sun
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made it to rank 10

grizzled island
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What are the stats I should focus on for jirachi?

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Ik i can't use them technically but I still wanna build em for it

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And can someone explain how to use trick room properly

next stump
grizzled island
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Uh doubles

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But i would like to understand using it in singles too

next stump
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Trick room is best/most easily used to help make your slower but strong pokemon able to hit first. You usually see it on teams with Calyrex-Ice or another slow restricted legendary pokemon. The easiest way to get it set up is to have a redirector pokemon (like something with Follow Me) next to a trick room setter. You can also lead Fake Out + trick room setter, but that’s riskier due to things like Covert Cloak, Psychic Terrain, and Farigiraf

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You only have 4 turns of Trick Room, so you really really need to aim to get at least 2 knockouts so you can clean up the game from there

grizzled island
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Tysvm

left bobcat
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You’re welcome

mint void
lost sun
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no it's mine

mint void
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?

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ok man

foggy lodge
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XD

left bobcat
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D

fluid fiber
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Might put earth power back on Terapagos, but yeah

real prairie
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Some new mega leaks

craggy dagger
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azumarill 😭

spiral ridge
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i would love to slowking one lol

craggy dagger
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revert back to azurill

spiral ridge
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azu is cute too lol

shadow wind
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That slowking is me when I’m on ladder(huge thinker)

polar canyon
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Azumarill got some inspiration from mega altaria

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Why are all the fake magazine leaks always so blurry

patent marsh
solid frigate
patent marsh
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Yea the azumarill took roo much from altaria

real prairie
polar canyon
chrome knot
marsh hemlock
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Hi someone wanna 2v2?

real prairie
torn parrot
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Oh god…

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Mawile 2.0

forest arrow
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My last team of reg g

solid frigate
torn parrot
atomic mural
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is there some kind of way to see what pokemon use a specific tera?

solid frigate
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you have to guess

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but for Mons like Urshifu water or Koraidon

they are all universal one Tera

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Urshifu water for Water and Koraidon for Fire

mint void
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Gives u an idea what zo expect. Munchstats works

atomic mural
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im mainly asking because i dont know if i should get rid of poison gas or toxic spikes for taunt but i dont know which is better

mint void
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Wha5s ur team?

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Hard to say in general

atomic mural
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its not really a reg g team im just building for fun

mint void
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Doesnt change

atomic mural
solid frigate
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ok yeah fuck you because you made that team /j

atomic mural
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so yeah should i get rid of poison gas or toxic spikes on weezxing

atomic mural
mint void
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@atomic mural ni sleep immunity but also stall option with dozo

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Maybe drop spikes for taunt

atomic mural
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alr

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honestly i might bring a better version of the team to millwaukee if its double restricted

left bobcat
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Boooo

atomic mural
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ok but it would be really funny

left bobcat
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Not funny or cool dude

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🚿

next stump
carmine compass
next stump
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it undersped adamant ogerpon

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so its 158 speed stat or slower

chrome knot
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yeah they jus be 252/252 hp/spatk sometimes

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no spe invest is 155

solid frigate
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if you wanna be a madman

No speed Quite Nature 0IV is below 140

chrome knot
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but then ur just being stupid

shadow wind
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Oh heck nah

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If nobody got me Bo3 got me

foggy lodge
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You are already at 1500?

left bobcat
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Wasn’t pure

shadow wind
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This account has been at 1500 for a bit now

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Just trying different ideas out

cyan smelt
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Isn't a slow miraidon impossible in game because it has fixed IVs and nature

shadow wind
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If it's like Raging bolt then yes

rustic mountain
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slow as in no ev investment

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not like slower then the guaranteed iv

cyan smelt
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Oh right

shadow wind
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IRON BALL

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Just don't play Bo3

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I'm trying out a new team with Kingambit

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Feel like he's being slept on

rustic mountain
shadow wind
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Hey he resists both Astral and Glacial as well as defiant being goated

cyan smelt
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urshifu and brian say hello

shadow wind
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That's why I paired it with flutter !

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As well as other fellas

cyan smelt
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ogerpon also says hello

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lando too

shadow wind
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😔

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It's almost like I planned for there to also be another pokemon on the field with him

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It ain't no 1v1

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This is the team, I made it today

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Definitely still tweaking it

craggy dagger
chrome knot
craggy dagger
spiral ridge
craggy dagger
spiral ridge
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Why you looking at me like that

chrome knot
spiral ridge
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Go to bed cranky pants

chrome knot
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@craggy dagger stella being super stinky can u throw hands

spiral ridge
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Wtff

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What did I do :((

bold geode
shadow wind
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Can y'all go to dms 😭

chrome knot
bold geode
spiral ridge
spiral ridge
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Idk what I did

astral kelp
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iwonder if theres any funny moody teams i can make

shadow wind
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Eviolite Glalie?

astral kelp
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i need ALL the stall

astral kelp
shadow wind
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Into what?

astral kelp
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frost something something

shadow wind
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I mean Snorunt has a split evolution with Froslass if that’s what you’re thinking of

astral kelp
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yea

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does eviolite not work with that?

shadow wind
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That’d be like saying Gardevoir evolves into Gallade

astral kelp
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oh

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its split i see ahhh

shadow wind
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Considering how Glalie does not evolve I’d say no

astral kelp
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i thought glalie only evolved if it was female

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woopsy hahaha

shadow wind
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Why are you trying to make Glalie work anyway? That Mon is terrible

cyan smelt
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Use scovillain

shadow wind
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Even Scovillian is just astral barrage fodder

cyan smelt
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The only one that isn't is smeargle

shadow wind
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Yeah

astral kelp
shadow wind
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Even then Glalie is like mop water

astral kelp
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yeah its one of my dumber ideas

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moody muk is prolly way better and more reliable

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maybe something skill swap

shadow wind
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But why?

astral kelp
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moody is fun lol

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gambling

cyan smelt
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Have fun losing to dozo

shadow wind
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But losing isn’t very fun

astral kelp
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why specifically dozo?

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im losing to a lot more than that LOL

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oh yeah unaware

cyan smelt
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Dozo has unaware

shadow wind
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And that’s why you spam Draco meteor into them

astral kelp
cyan smelt
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If you can survive all the order ups or wave crashes

astral kelp
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losing isnt fun but when a team loses a lot and you manage to win thats extra fun

shadow wind
shadow wind
astral kelp
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for me if i win with something that i know is good and isnt something i like had to work hard towards its like less rewarding
id rather have 1 big hard fought win over 10 easy wins

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ofc yea all perspective hahah

shadow wind
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I mean I personally view it as if you made it yourself it’s your efforts put into the team

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Who cares if it’s Calyrex shadow rider, if you made the team it’s your credit

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Which is why I almost strictly play my own teams

astral kelp
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do you feel like its more satisfying if you win 10 times with fucking ho oh or some shit or win 10 times with CSR

shadow wind
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Well you aren’t winning 10 times with ho oh

astral kelp
shadow wind
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And I use Groudon anyway so it’s a moot point

astral kelp
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and when i was building a lunala team i got told the same thing

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ofc idk about ho oh HAHAH

shadow wind
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Right so I bet next tournament we’ll see 20 Lunala teams for sure

cyan smelt
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That's most likely a one off, sometimes mons are good meta picks, you don't see pachirisu doing anything since it won worlds ages ago

astral kelp
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Ofc

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I'm not saying lunala is good I'm saying lunala for that one event could win and just because the dude prolly decided to try something new

shadow wind
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People gravitate towards easy picks like CSR and Zama, not easy to play but are easy to build around I would say. The Lunala accomplishment is incredible but I doubt we’ll see another tournament being won by a restricted that isn’t part of the top 5

astral kelp
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Either way ofc everyone can play how they wanna play but that's just why I like doing dumb shit lol

shadow wind
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I mean just playing how you want isn’t really in the spirit of a competitive scene

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But I play a mid restricted so what do I know

astral kelp
cyan smelt
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Pokemon is different, you're not gonna get far playing dumb shit

shadow wind
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Word

astral kelp
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Lol probably

shadow wind
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Surprise factor does exist and if I see a Palkia I might start to rethink my life choices

astral kelp
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LOOOL

shadow wind
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But am I going to see a Palkia? Probably not

cyan smelt
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Even with their new forms Palkia and Dialga just get outclassed by the paradoxes

shadow wind
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Yuppers

astral kelp
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Also imagine you're like high ranked in something and you're like one win away from getting to your goal
Then you lose to some of the dumbest shit you've ever seen in your entire life

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I thrive off that pain o7

shadow wind
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Like I’ll be concerned until I remember I have a Tera fairy specs Flutter mane

astral kelp
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Tbh what does Palkia even do

shadow wind
astral kelp
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Does it like even fulfill a specific niesh

shadow wind
astral kelp
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So same as Groudon?

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Worse typing tho

shadow wind
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Nah he misses more

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Hydro + Spacial rend

cyan smelt
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Only single target too

astral kelp
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Btw whats your main Groudon team?

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I think it's fucking hilarious that special water types have the hydro pump curse

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If you're a special water type
You must pray to rnjesus

shadow wind
cyan smelt
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Doesn't help they removed scald from so many mons

shadow wind
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To be fair it was a really strong move

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Buff physical attacks 🙏🙏🙏

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There is no reason that special moves should just be strictly better

astral kelp
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They already have to deal with intimidate

cyan smelt
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They did buff physical attacks, clear amulet

shadow wind
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😔

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I want better physical attacks

shadow wind
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Like the elemental punches are sometimes the best non committal coverage moves

astral kelp
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Biggest piece of garbage moveset ever

shadow wind
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When moves like Tbolt, Flamethrower, and ice beam are all stronger

astral kelp
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Truly tragic

shadow wind
astral kelp
#

Kyurem white at least gets really good moves

shadow wind
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I hit 1500 on Bo1 ladder and dipped

astral kelp
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That legit impressive

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Could you imagine how good kyurem white would be if it was like literally any other type other than ice

shadow wind
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I mean stab blizzard is nice

astral kelp
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Yeahh

cyan smelt
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Powerful freeze dry

shadow wind
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Freeze dry hits so much

astral kelp
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A lot of time I have to fusion flare anyways

shadow wind
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One of the best moves ever made

astral kelp
shadow wind
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70 is ok

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They need to do that for more types though, like a steel move that is super effective on ground types

astral kelp
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It's pretty good for the amount of stuff it does SA to

shadow wind
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SA? Like the crime?

astral kelp
shadow wind
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Not offensively 😭😭

astral kelp
shadow wind
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It probably wouldn’t die

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Not from full anyway

astral kelp
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4x super effective

shadow wind
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Still don’t know what your “SA” stands for

astral kelp
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It's like her main counter

shadow wind
astral kelp
shadow wind
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Meteor beam??

astral kelp
cyan smelt
#

Wonder how much ogerpon hearthflame does to lunala

shadow wind
astral kelp
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Like hard

shadow wind
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Mmm maybe not

astral kelp
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Idk I gotta do calcs

shadow wind
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Wait I’m bugging it’s like 80 in the sun

cyan smelt
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Ogerpon can at least chunk it

shadow wind
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Just don’t Tera

astral kelp
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I wanna try remake my calm mind comfy lunala

shadow wind
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Or actually Tera probably does more

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2.25x damage multiplier I believe

astral kelp
cyan smelt
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Tera doesn't have mold breaker

shadow wind
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Tera + attack boost though

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It’s a lot

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Tera in the sun probably kills no invest

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+1 252+ Atk Hearthflame Mask Tera Fire Ogerpon-Hearthflame-Tera Ivy Cudgel vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Shadow Shield Lunala in Sun: 176-208 (83 - 98.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

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Well it's close

cyan smelt
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Try with crit

shadow wind
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+1 252+ Atk Hearthflame Mask Tera Fire Ogerpon-Hearthflame-Tera Ivy Cudgel vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Shadow Shield Lunala in Sun on a critical hit: 265-312 (125 - 147.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

astral kelp
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i wonder if i can make these 3 a team

shadow wind
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252+ Atk Hearthflame Mask Ogerpon-Hearthflame Ivy Cudgel vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Shadow Shield Lunala in Sun: 88-104 (41.5 - 49%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

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This is without tera by the way

cyan smelt
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Underwhelming

shadow wind
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Wait that doesn't seem right

astral kelp
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right??

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im not 100% sure

shadow wind
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I mean it's pretty fat but typically nothing goes no bulk unless it's sashed

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Shadow shield isn't affected by mold breaker 💀

astral kelp
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LOL REALLY

cyan smelt
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Why not

shadow wind
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No idea, Serebii told me so

cyan smelt
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Rigged

shadow wind
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I know right

astral kelp
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oh yeah btw i got this shiny eternatus, is there like any good combos with etern

shadow wind
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Tinkaton?

cyan smelt
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Well at least there's always neutralising gas

astral kelp
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yea that

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yo actually eternatus weezing could be cooking

shadow wind
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How so?

astral kelp
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eternatus gets fucking pressure as its ability

shadow wind
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Which is good in a meta where 8 PP moves are the norm

cyan smelt
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Usually people go eternatus tinkaton for immunity to sludge wave and tinkaton has feint and mold breaker fake out

astral kelp
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Wait really I thought it was useless

shadow wind
astral kelp
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Ive literally never seen pressure come into play

shadow wind
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Well then you haven’t been cosmic power pressure stalled before

astral kelp
astral kelp
cyan smelt
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Eternatus is funni mon

shadow wind
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I love lorb Eternatus

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Hits incredibly hard and is uber fast

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And will still get outsped by CSR

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😔

astral kelp
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csr is just disguuusting

shadow wind
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Which is why I’m running AV Kingambit

astral kelp
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poison is kind of a good type rn with all the carylexes going tera fairy

shadow wind
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Which might be turning into safety goggles Kingambit soon

astral kelp
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oh yea your team has no amoongus answer

shadow wind
astral kelp
#

wait no way

shadow wind
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And my safety goggles mon already

astral kelp
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nah its chill

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eternatus is really tnaky

shadow wind
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You may have forgotten about psychic

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It does get expanding force

astral kelp
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not too bad

cyan smelt
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Or even just single target moves so it doesn't get walled by wide guard

astral kelp
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could go a bit tankier to live that

shadow wind
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Man I hate Zama

cyan smelt
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Then you just switch to high horsepower right

astral kelp
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there ya go

shadow wind
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Which I why I’m probably switching the AV on my team to Bolt so I can run weather ball

shadow wind
astral kelp
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does csr even run psychic btw

cyan smelt
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Yes

shadow wind
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Psyshock usually

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For Fluttermanes I wanna say

astral kelp
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hm should i bring back the nasty plot life orb sinistcha