competitive_discussion

[charred saddle]

dawnwings is jut the best choice out of three necrozma forms

psyspam ez

but like lunala can also do that better, + better ability

[astral kelp]

holy shit rampardos attack stack is kinda wild

surely trick room

[timber falcon]

Defence though

[real prairie]

life orb sheer force Rampardos lol

[timber falcon]

Rhamoardos is a one trick pony

[astral kelp]

seems like

trick room with earthquake

[real prairie]

then rock slides HURT

[astral kelp]

oh yea rock slides prolly do more

nah fuck it choice band

[real prairie]

Life orb

[timber falcon]

But it’d be very hard to activate without speed control

[real prairie]

sheer force stops Life orb damage

[astral kelp]

OH REALLY?>

i mean doesnt rock slide just

[timber falcon]

That’s why landorus incarnate is viable

[astral kelp]

do less damage than earthquake still then LMAO

[timber falcon]

Rock slide has STAB

[astral kelp]

1.3*75 is like 93

[timber falcon]

And grassy terrain mitigates earthquakes damage

Which is fairly common

[astral kelp]

right ic

[real prairie]

its 1.3x1.3x1.5x75

1.5 for stab

[astral kelp]

without including lorb and stab ofc lol i forgot about that

[charred saddle]

also, spread moves only deals 75%

[astral kelp]

like 150 base damage is kinda wilod

[real prairie]

ah yes

[charred saddle]

and plus EQ in grassy terrain is halved

[astral kelp]

omg and head smash

[charred saddle]

with rilla around, EQ is kinda eh

[astral kelp]

380.25 DAMAGE WITH 165 BASE DAMAGE HOLY SHIT

[timber falcon]

Wouldn’t recommend. There are much more reliable glass cannons

[astral kelp]

very true hahah

even resisted its so m,uch damage

[timber falcon]

If only it had better stats in the defence department

[astral kelp]

yeah

[real prairie]

it could work with Amoogus or something next ot it, but just a pain in the arse getting them next to each other after setting up TR

you lose 2 turns of TR doing it

[astral kelp]

amoogus and tr seems okay

you can just indeedee follow me

[real prairie]

they would just double into indeedee turn 1 and prevent your TR

[astral kelp]

right ic hm

maybe we go sash instead of lorb?

[chrome knot]

ill never know why this was a ping me

[astral kelp]

ig giggas wheezing is just way more reliable

if im gonna do some dumb shit like this

what the fuck is this

sexism power

[real prairie]

because you breed cutie mons

[chrome knot]

in a non freaky way

[real prairie]

haha fair

although if there was a method to breed pokemon as Chibi versions, you not down?

[chrome knot]

depends

if they do the sprites right maybe

[real prairie]

just imagining a chibi restricted mon slapping up competitive lol

[astral kelp]

how playable would medichan skill swap be

[chrome knot]

teensy baby kyogre water spout from 100%

[astral kelp]

i love that

we should be able to change showdown sprites

[chrome knot]

yeah see how could u even be mad that she just spread 80% on 2 resists

[astral kelp]

mannn why is this the only guy who learns this sick ability

could you imagine weakness policy simple

[real prairie]

tiny boom

[astral kelp]

336 defense body press

[dusky wyvern]

Holy shit boys it's walking wake day

[astral kelp]

omg omg omg i gotta do that

[dusky wyvern]

And that other piece of garbage that isn't walking wake

Or raging bolt

[astral kelp]

i still havent unlocked 6 star raids lmao

[dusky wyvern]

Wtf

[chrome knot]

chill on iron leaves

[tiny karma]

Ability: Well-Baked Body

This Pokemon is immune to Fire-type moves and raises its Defense by 2 stages when hit by a Fire-type move.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[real prairie]

just use Zamazenta lol

[chrome knot]

iron leaves got 2 day 2s in SanAn

[astral kelp]

bahahah

mannn sucks that its so useless lol

[dusky wyvern]

If iron,leaves is so good then why isnt it raging bolt

[chrome knot]

what

[dusky wyvern]

Read it again

[chrome knot]

what

[wispy spade]

Is the random comma supposed to be there?

[dusky wyvern]

Not really

[lofty tartan]

Something tells me the comma isn't what makes it hard to understand

[dusky wyvern]

Haha damn you guys are hostile

[lofty tartan]

No, we're confused lol

[dusky wyvern]

It was a joke but let me explain for you wonderful people

[lofty tartan]

🤨

[dusky wyvern]

Raging bolt is viable in ranked because it has good typing and base stats

Iron leaves is a giant chunk of shit

[lofty tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-oh-no-anyway-gif-18887547

[astral kelp]

OKAY BUT WHY IS THIS THE SIGNATURE ABILITY OF A POKEMON WITH FUCKING 50 BASE SPEED

[chrome knot]

top gear my beloved

[dusky wyvern]

Are you here to talk about competitive pokemon or just to troll, because youre're being a fucking diuchebag

[lofty tartan]

Excuse me sir, this is a Kmart.

[dusky wyvern]

Yeah I'm blocking you now

[wispy spade]

When is the explaination coming?

[chrome knot]

saying a viable mon is shit isn’t really advancing a discussion either😭

[lofty tartan]

Such hostility.

[chrome knot]

LMFAOO

[dusky wyvern]

It's RU on smgoon

[lofty tartan]

Such devastation. This was not my intent.

[dusky wyvern]

How is it viable lol

[chrome knot]

why tf would i care abt its smogon rating😭

hello i play vgc

[lofty tartan]

Talking smogon tiers when also talking vgc

[dusky wyvern]

Smogon also does VGC

[chrome knot]

they just announced their first vgc tour in years

[dusky wyvern]

Can you cite another source that says it's a good pokemon

[astral kelp]

What is even happening rn lmao

[lofty tartan]

My uncle. He works for TPCI

[wispy spade]

Metapod didn't use harden enough

[lofty tartan]

LOL

[astral kelp]

LOL

[lofty tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/burned-food-wtf-gif-22978287

[astral kelp]

Okay but I don't fucking get it

Why does this game give pokemon abilities and moves it literally can't and will never use

[dusky wyvern]

I said iron leaves isn't a good pokemon and like 4 people started harassing me

[chrome knot]

????

[dusky wyvern]

I don't knoww why

[chrome knot]

harassing is definitely a word choice

[wispy spade]

I'm still waiting for you to explain that joke

[lofty tartan]

Actually we just asked what lol

Then someone went on a rage-fueled tangent but I'm not sure who that was.

[dusky wyvern]

Yeah posting a huge gif that basically says I should fuck off is harassment

[astral kelp]

Dude chill HAHAHA

[dusky wyvern]

The joke is that raging bolt as good and iron leaves is. ot good in ranked

That's the whole thing

[lofty tartan]

That's not what that meant. I was dismissing your condescending mannerisms, though. Which is only prudent, after all.

[chrome knot]

but iron leaves to fill a niche roll is good

[lofty tartan]

Anyway.

How's your day so far, Emmy?

[chrome knot]

good !

[dusky wyvern]

What niche does it have and how is it good

[chrome knot]

i think ive just about finalized the vancouver team

[dusky wyvern]

It's grass psychic with garbage stats LOL

[lofty tartan]

Sick.

Always good to get prepped well before the event.

[astral kelp]

Oh shit you going to tournament?

[chrome knot]

ye Vancouver regionals in march

[astral kelp]

That's epic

What you running?

[lofty tartan]

Lol

[chrome knot]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-dance-calyrex-gif-19192527

[wispy spade]

Emmy Nyan

[chrome knot]

location specific asw^

[lofty tartan]

Not unsurprising.

[astral kelp]

Cary Ice?

[lofty tartan]

But rooting for you

[chrome knot]

this double negative confusing me

[lofty tartan]

Bwaha

[chrome knot]

but ty :3

[lofty tartan]

All my money is going to my wife's anniversary gift this year

[wispy spade]

This wont not never fail to unsurprise me

[lofty tartan]

Big big reason why my run is done for the season and I won't be at another regional soon xD

[chrome knot]

punishes tera poison lando, grass/psychic weak mons, hits into zam pretty well & megahorn for coverage into cir, pons etc

[dusky wyvern]

It's a format with rillaboom and honestly, grass/psychic is not really priority coverage

The format has rillaboom lol

It is not good vs zamazenta LOL

[chrome knot]

it plays on miraidon..

[dusky wyvern]

Yeah for quark drive

[chrome knot]

also megahorn dunks rilla😭 which immediately wins you terrain for that game

[dusky wyvern]

There are physical attackers with better typing stats and moveset ghat you could run

[wispy spade]

Like flutter mane

[lofty tartan]

252 Atk Life Orb Quark Drive Iron Leaves Megahorn vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Rillaboom: 250-296 (120.7 - 142.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

[dusky wyvern]

There are definitely other ways to kill rillaboom than nin-stab megahorn from iron leaves

[wispy spade]

Poltergeist flutter mane

[dusky wyvern]

If you want to run a 85% move on a grass psychic type just to ohko one pokemon that's uh

Lol

[lofty tartan]

Emma I'm surprised you're actually entertaining this.

[chrome knot]

me too after seein that one

[wispy spade]

Name one grass/psychic type that is better

[lofty tartan]

inorite

[dusky wyvern]

The typing sucks

[chrome knot]

I used mirai leaves for a bit and i thought it was acc really strong

[dusky wyvern]

You don't want to run a grass psychic type at all

Lol that is my point

[wispy spade]

I want to run sylveon, but sadly flutter mane exists

[dusky wyvern]

Just go to munchstats.com and look at usage statistics

Iron leaves is in 0.68% of teams lol

Rillaboom 24.07%

[lofty tartan]

If 4x weakness to anything was a marker for anything then we wouldn't see Landorus, Tyranitar, and Calyrex-Shadow doing anything ever.

And usage statistics are one thing - but Iron Leaves did make 2 day 2 slots at San Antonio

[wispy spade]

Urshifu 100%

[lofty tartan]

They're not saying it's better than Rillaboom, my man.

[dusky wyvern]

If it was really a usable pokemon it would be in more than 0.68% lol

[chrome knot]

you’re comparing stats of 2 different things

[lofty tartan]

The argument is totally flying way over your head and you're in left field swatting at flies with bases loaded.

[dusky wyvern]

I'm not at all lol

[chrome knot]

IRON LEAVES IS SPECIFICALLY ON MIRAIDON WHERE U WOULD NOT ALSO FIND RILLABOOM

[dusky wyvern]

Can you elaborate

Miraidon is 12.05% of teams though

[chrome knot]

MAKING THIS COMPARISON USELESS BC THEY CAN EXIST ON DIFFERENT ARCHETYPES, WHILE RARE YES THEY STILL HAVE SEEN PLAY AND BEEN SUCCESSFUL

[dusky wyvern]

So if people were ruinning it with miraidon it would be higher

[chrome knot]

BC 90% OF MIRAIDON PLAY IS BREEDS AND VARIATIONS OF ARUBEGA

[dusky wyvern]

Yeah dude a lot of things can be successful that are bad

[chrome knot]

you are so incredibly dense holy fuck

[lofty tartan]

"It's not on every Miraidon team - therefore is bad, despite actually pulling results"

[dusky wyvern]

Okay yeah reported for harassment

[lofty tartan]

Lmfao.

[dusky wyvern]

We're just talking statistics buddy.

[chrome knot]

LOL

[dusky wyvern]

You need to calm down

I get that you have some crazy opinion about somepokemon nobody uses but you're not going to fucking talk to me like that

[lofty tartan]

You came in earlier like Miley Cyrus basically acting like everyone was five years old and you're the only adult in the room and you're now the one reporting people over discord for harassment.

Ain't that ever the pot calling the kettle black.

[dusky wyvern]

This is ficking insane that you people get this upset when you're wrong

[lofty tartan]

Anyway Emma, I'm gonna go play some games. You have fun, and don't go getting discord arrested

[lofty tartan]

Oh ho ho, who is the upset one, mister "I'm reporting you"?

[chrome knot]

nws im done here im over the moon atm

friend got me teal mask pon euic backpack

[lofty tartan]

Yoooo

[chrome knot]

and now kats awake so i can yap to her now

[lofty tartan]

That's dope

[lofty tartan]

Yeah almost time for bed for me, but I hate working then sleeping then working. That's no life to live.

[chrome knot]

ill send Vanc team lmk what u think tho

[lofty tartan]

Of course!

[chrome knot]

tyty

[real prairie]

to make it fast lol

[dusky wyvern]

So sad to see the most clueless players stop talking

[astral kelp]

It's 150 base speed right?

[dusky wyvern]

I think I'm gonna try to make a lugia team now

[astral kelp]

Basically

[astral kelp]

Heeeeel yea we love lugia

[mint void]

200

x4

[astral kelp]

Oh really

Okay nvm I might try cook with this then nyehehe

Surf 0_0

Or lava plume

[mint void]

noting new

[real prairie]

dropped scarf Kyogre then?

[mint void]

weakness policy steam engine was meta

in SWSH

[chrome knot]

was only testing it for the wife

in which its terrifying still

she found a working line into my team and now i gotta jump through hoops in our practice bc she locks tf in and reads every thought i’ve ever had

[dusky wyvern]

Hey I think you should try out iron ball croconaw in your vgc team

It ciunters geodude because its a water type

Its a rare archetype

It learns bite

[mint void]

more like none existent

[real prairie]

Niantic selling PoGo, could impact anyone hoarding mons on PoGo as an FYI

i doubt it will, but something to consider

[dusky wyvern]

I got it to farm legendaries but you can't transfer them to cart unless you already had them on that file

Also I live in a town of 5000 people so I can't actually play the game

[real prairie]

probably a good idea to move them to home still

[chrome knot]

adware game time 🤩

[real prairie]

Haven't looked into the buyers, could be interesting development for the game

the game died to me when they started doing outbreaks and block pokemon releases

it was more fun when there was a whole generation to hunt

slow releases killed my joy of mon hunting

[dusky wyvern]

Is that why I never want to catch anything

I just opened the app and there are 4 caterpies and 4 pidgeys

[real prairie]

well that and they have one of the lowest rarities.

[chrome knot]

i only played when shiny zam was released 😭

[real prairie]

yeah i completely missed that lol

[dusky wyvern]

I think I'm going to build a giratina team instead of that lugis

[opal trout]

The thing that made me stop playing was when they increased the price of remote raid passes

[dusky wyvern]

It doesn't actually seem like you can get anything from go that you can't get more easily from the switch games

[real prairie]

i just logged back in for the 1st time since i got my new phone 5 months ago LOL

[dusky wyvern]

I wish pain split was less garbage so I could use it

[real prairie]

its decent on set up mons but most in Reg G are SpAtk'ers

[dusky wyvern]

Why is landorus in ubers but landorus t OU lol

I haven't seen a single landorus-i in bss

[real prairie]

Smogon rankings mean F-all to VGC 🤷‍♂️

but to answer your Q, how they perform in singles competitive

[dusky wyvern]

They're usually pretty close in BSS which is wahat i play

I think smogon tiers are based on usage not win rate actually

[real prairie]

Yeah if you are singles player there isn't a ton of support here

there are a couple people

[dusky wyvern]

Most people I found online were japanese

On cart

[real prairie]

most cart players are asia based since they don't have regional tournaments

[mint void]

shinies

[dusky wyvern]

Yeah I would have to go to toronto or travel like 1000 miles to georgia

I don't have regioknals either

[mint void]

where are u from?

[dusky wyvern]

Is that why these people are so confident in their weird strats, because they attend some huge tournament where they pay to get in but it doesn't have any qualifier LOL

Upstate NY

It's 9 degrees outside and there are 4-5 feet of snow in my yard

[chrome knot]

Toronto is one of the best places for vgc locals

[real prairie]

if you mean the weird strats earlier today, that was just people having a bit of fun on Showdown ladder. There are some serious competitiors in here aswell, but we don't discrimiate on those that play for fun too

[chrome knot]

im going there next weekend to see my friends for practice😭

[dusky wyvern]

I prefer off meta stuff

I just want to make fun 3v3 teams with lesser used legendaries mostly

[real prairie]

i think shiny Groudon and Shiny Ursaluna are my only things of note on PoGo

[dusky wyvern]

I got a snorlax once

[real prairie]

oh ive got a ton of shinies on there, just none of note for VGC

[dusky wyvern]

No it's not shiny

I don't think there is anyone doing raids in my town either

It;s really not a great game if you don't live in a city

[real prairie]

its not

[burnt canopy]

Hi! What’s the best tean atm

[real prairie]

probably the Tang team

but then everyone is now working out how to beat it

so probably not

maybe see what wins EUIC this weekend

[burnt canopy]

Oh the roaring moon ogerpon one right

My current team is the ice rider one

[solid frigate]

probably

[chrome knot]

Justin Burns wins euic

[real prairie]

Only because me and Pina can't attend

[mint void]

guys

who is the goat of "Fuck CalyrexS"

[real prairie]

Scarf Kyogre?

[mint void]

none restricted

[real prairie]

🤔

[mint void]

does hands OHKO?

[real prairie]

booster flutter

shadowball

booster moon knock off

[mint void]

yeah but u just trade tera like that

[real prairie]

scarf urshifu

[dusky wyvern]

Scarf kyogre one shots it with water spout and outspeeds

But pelple are running focus sash now lol

[solid frigate]

Chi Yu?

252 SpA Beads of Ruin Chi-Yu Overheat vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Calyrex-Shadow: 153-180 (86.9 - 102.2%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO

Lol

[real prairie]

LOL

[chrome knot]

Rillaboom

AV sets eat astral barrages and wood hammer always either kills or puts it in glide range

[real prairie]

Oooo thats cool

Does mirror herb copy Zamazenta boost?

[chrome knot]

i think?

it copies defiant boosts so id assume so

[bold geode]

It should

[real prairie]

you know if you click the text itll copy it to clipboard 😄

[dusky wyvern]

Now I do

It also gets 2hko by astral and is slower

Very naise counter hehe xd

[real prairie]

doesn't matter if its slower because it can GGlide turn 2 as Em said

[dusky wyvern]

Personally I think a lot of pokemon who are slower than caly shadow can probably just ohko instead but what do I know

[real prairie]

yeah there are probably more consistent counters, but Rilla has lots of utility and its good to know it can also counter CSR

[dusky wyvern]

I mean again it doesnt actually counter it but yeah its a good pokemon with 20% usage

[chrome knot]

nobody using 252/252 rilla😭😭

i understand youre using the old calculator and just pressing buttons but like

cmon now

[real prairie]

thats also valid, SpDef investment would be higher, didn't notice that

[dusky wyvern]

Looks like the actual chance is only 78.91% to 2hko

And wood hammer has 25%

You dhiuld try using brightpowder victreebel to counter caly shadow

Sometimes yoj dont get hit and you 4hko with leafstorm

[mint void]

nahhhh

gambling addict?

[dusky wyvern]

Actually I used to deal craps

[wispy spade]

Isn't the big snivy with contrary better in that case?

[real prairie]

did you account for the SpAtk drops?

[dusky wyvern]

Oh sorry no, the correct pokemon I meant was venusaur holding a fire stone

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-fuck-venusaur-gif-5634689

[dusky wyvern]

It hard counters trick calyrex

Evolves it into flareon

[solid frigate]

trick Calyrex barely exists-

[dusky wyvern]

It's a rare archetype

[solid frigate]

just don't get skill issue'd

i would not make a team solely to prep that archetype

just play around it

[dusky wyvern]

My man I'm being sarcastic, do you honestly think anyone believes you can evolve calyrex into flareon by using trick in battle

[bold geode]

[bold geode]

Hello Emma

[solid frigate]

i'm sorry i can't deal with this chat anymore

i'm out

[dusky wyvern]

He honestly did believe that

[bold geode]

Sigh

[real prairie]

its been a strange couple days in here

[solid frigate]

no i'm just tired on how much bullshit happened since worlds ended

[dusky wyvern]

What happened lol

[solid frigate]

lets just say

Not pleasant

[real prairie]

I thankfully missed that as i took a break last year lol

[bold geode]

Once again
Y'all folks care too much

[solid frigate]

i might gonna have hiatus on this chat for a while

https://tenor.com/view/hospital-hello-nurse-gif-26601570

[dusky wyvern]

Then please by all means stop talking about it and do it

[real prairie]

theres no need for the hostility chaps, its nice to be nice people.

you don't gain anything shitting on people

[dusky wyvern]

If you don't have anything else going for you then you gain quite a bit

[chrome knot]

good morning

[dusky wyvern]

People who are too dumb to realize they're wrong always resort to insults because they can't figure out why they're so angry

[chrome knot]

116+ Atk Rillaboom Wood Hammer vs. 28 HP / 4 Def Calyrex-Shadow Rider in Grassy Terrain: 153-181 (85.4 - 101.1%) -- 6.25% chance to OHKO

116+ Atk Rillaboom Grassy Glide vs. 28 HP / 4 Def Calyrex-Shadow Rider in Grassy Terrain: 72-85 (40.2 - 47.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Grassy Terrain recovery

maybe this equals 100% or more idk tho

maybe a mathematician needs to help me here :(

[dusky wyvern]

Yeah thats not the choice specs set

You need remedial reading class, you dont need a mathematician here

Tera dark life orb lol

[chrome knot]

you just wont believe what the most popular set is

[bold geode]

It does yeah
Grassy Terrain shouldn't change that

[twin falcon]

Knock it off, will ya? This isn't the place to be disrespectful. Everyone has been treating you fairly, I don't see the point in acting like that

[bold geode]

Even if you low roll, there shouldn't be enough recovery to change it

[dusky wyvern]

A guy told me I was "fucking dense" earlier because I said iron leaves is underused because it's bad

Did yiu even read the chat before this

[chrome knot]

its min roll is 120%…

[wild depot]

Did you report it :P

[dusky wyvern]

I got dogpiled by like 5 people, no the chat did not treat me fairly lol

I reported like 8 comments yeah

[wild depot]

If you’re gonna complain, then let us know

[dusky wyvern]

Yean I did, a long time ago

You didn't do anything, you just came here when your friend messaged me and told me to knock it off without reading anything else

[wild depot]

A long time ago or earlier?

[dusky wyvern]

Both

[wild depot]

Who did you report it to?

[chrome knot]

I fear this also isn’t really a place for argumentative rage bait😭

[twin falcon]

where

[dusky wyvern]

I used the report function in discord bro.

[wild depot]

That doesn’t report to us

That reports to discord staff

We can’t do anything about that

#reports or ping a mod

[dusky wyvern]

You can start reading at that comment

Literally was just talking stats and they started insulting me

[wild depot]

I mean yes, people could’ve been nicer. But you escalated it fast by calling them a fucking diuchebag

[dusky wyvern]

He posted a huge image telling me to fuck off

[wild depot]

And the point of your original comment was to shit on what they’re talking about

[dusky wyvern]

That's bullying

[wild depot]

They said oh no anyway

Because you started ranting

While they were mid conversation

[twin falcon]

Is this bullying too?

[gentle crag]

metap0d3 (ID 189571161082822656)

[Message](#competitive_discussion message) in #competitive_discussion
Are you here to talk about competitive pokemon or just to troll, because youre're being a fucking diuchebag

Command triggered by koumus. Message from · Feb 20, 2025, 1:19 PM

[dusky wyvern]

No, the pount of my comment is that iron leaves was not good

[twin falcon]

calling people douchebags first?

[dusky wyvern]

No, that's me standing up for myself

[wild depot]

I agree I think people could’ve been nicer

[dusky wyvern]

How am I ranting if I]m just explaining why the pokemon is bad

[wild depot]

But let us know

Don’t escalate it to 100 there

[dusky wyvern]

I didn't escalate anything, telling me that I shiuld stop talking is harassment

[dense latch]

coalossal actually saw a lot of use during some swsh formats, wolfe won the equivalent of an international level event back during covid using it for example

[dusky wyvern]

I stood up for myself and I would definitely do the exact same thing again

[dense latch]

it gets really fast even when it’s base 50 speed

[real prairie]

4x speed just from being hit is really cool niche

[stark kindle]

[wild depot]

I didn’t say stop talking. I said don’t escalate it. You don’t need to call people fucking douchebags for not wanting to talk to you

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-i-am-speed-meme-kid-gif-14031709

[dusky wyvern]

I honestly can't believe you said I'm "ranting" I just said iron leaves isn't viable

[wild depot]

If you’re getting that pissed off, just let us know

That’s how it comes across man.

[dusky wyvern]

That's not what happened? He posted a huge image in the chat telling me to stop talking

[wild depot]

I’m just trying to help

He posted a top gear meme

[dusky wyvern]

The channel is about competitive pokemon

Yeah there is text in the meme telling me to stop talking

You know what it means, don't be disingenuous

[chrome knot]

uhm

[dusky wyvern]

How was I "shitting on what they were talking about". y discussing the pokemon in competitive

That's what the channel is for

[wild depot]

Right. This isn’t productive. I’m sorry that people ganged up on you. I don’t think they should’ve. We’re discussing what action we should take.

But please. Let us know in future if you’re getting that angry

We just want to help

[dusky wyvern]

Lol

I have a suggestion for what action you could take

[wild depot]

I apologise for dismissing you that was wrong

[dusky wyvern]

I worked in hopsitality for 5 years so I have great communication skills

You should ban me for harassment because I'm going to call you a fucking jerkoff 😉

[mint void]

Ok cool. Why do they give these future mons such horrendous typings tho?

[stark kindle]

Spite usually

[mint void]

Like what tf is the reasoning behind Iron Boulder beings psychic and not steel?

[real prairie]

too many steel types i guess

[mint void]

tbf that doesnt improve it too much anyway but still

[chrome knot]

electric/fighting with god stats

[stark kindle]

Hes.. a rock made of steel. Obviously

[chrome knot]

swords of justice go from type/fighting to type/psychic

[pallid hare]

its a pokemon made of a special kind of metal that emulates the properties of stone

[plain drum]

I really do think they just wanted to expand some typing options, like before this we only had Lunatone and Solrock for that pairing

[bold geode]

Imma report seal for silly

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/seal-silly-seal-ponsuke-seal-tongue-gif-25839635

silly seal

[real prairie]

id prefer if they stopped giving mons typings and then no moves for it

[bold geode]

Damn he chonk

[mint void]

yeah thats my main issue

[plain drum]

But that's a tradition that dates all the way back to '96 :P

[real prairie]

he prefers floffy

[mint void]

best stab for boulder is psycho cut

psychic stab

[real prairie]

at least it gets one

[charred saddle]

mighty cleave tho

[real prairie]

poor Lando

[mint void]

he has mighty cleave for rock which is cool

[charred saddle]

urshifu

[real prairie]

Also, just found out PoGo might be sold to saudi arabia government lol

[bold geode]

Waddup bitch

[chrome knot]

oh joy

[wild depot]

D:

me silly

[bold geode]

Got em

[real prairie]

how long you think before we get a Saudi hosted worlds?

[bold geode]

Math is hard

[chrome knot]

i hope never

[bold geode]

Emma doesn't wanna go to Saudi Arabia smh

[real prairie]

the way saudi are pushing into Esports, id imagine it could be quite soon

[mint void]

ok I was gonna say why tho but then I realised that it might be a lil sucky

[real prairie]

nor do i frankly

[mint void]

But yeah I see it happening

Money is still money

[real prairie]

but it seems inevitable

[chrome knot]

no i do not want to visit a place where lgbt is essentially a crime & women are not seen as equal

[bold geode]

Actually yeah it too hot

[bold geode]

Oh wait yeah that too
Whoops

[real prairie]

LOL

[chrome knot]

monke….

[mint void]

cba with near east. they are weird

[chrome knot]

[mint void]

stupid rules

[bold geode]

Just sexism/homophobia things uh
Yeah so Pokemon

[stark kindle]

Forgive monkey. He's a cis hetero white man

[chrome knot]

i love monke hes so silly

[mint void]

doesnt stop there

[bold geode]

Yeah damn he got me
I'm getting cancelled now

[mint void]

you ever heared of slavery?

[real prairie]

imagine being your wonderful self and winning the whole thing in a place of hate though, what a message

[bold geode]

Read Mickey's comment

[mint void]

Im just adding to ur thing not saying u are missing anything.

Im not hating

[bold geode]

True
But she could just do that in America rn apparently

[feral wraith]

One day he’ll get better

[pallid hare]

what even is going on here today?

[mint void]

true

[chrome knot]

im worried what does this mean for monke

[feral wraith]

Nonsense

[real prairie]

oh yeah... oops

[feral wraith]

He’ll learn obv

[real prairie]

Sorry, my fault. escalated from the PoGo news

[pallid hare]

oh, niantic possibly selling off its game division? yeah, I heard

[bold geode]

It means you're a silly little bean and that's ok, we love you all the same

Wait
Plz don't tell me that me saying that is a slur

[pallid hare]

I feel like monke's going to go apeshit one day

[bold geode]

That's not everyday?

[chrome knot]

LMAO

[pallid hare]

more apeshit than usual

[bold geode]

IS IT?!

[left bobcat]

Finally IM HOME

I’m gonna lay down and see if I fall asleep

[real prairie]

I mean.... Bean has a few meanings, not sure id call any of them a slur though

[feral wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/go-bananas-steve-roger-come-on-mad-gif-16482214

[real prairie]

but due to the age groups in here ill leave that note there

[left bobcat]

Ayo what

[real prairie]

Flack0 used Rest

[left bobcat]

Now I’m using sleep talk

[bold geode]

I'm taking Emma not saying anything as a yes
I'm cancelled
Where's the nearest transgender education clinic I swear

[left bobcat]

Wait

What’s going on

[pallid hare]

I think emma might know

[real prairie]

LOL

[chrome knot]

no!!!

[feral wraith]

Not where you live, that’s for sure

[bold geode]

IDK THESE THINGS

[chrome knot]

sry i was watchinf a replay

and asking lots of questions so my mind was elsewhere

[bold geode]

cough cough um

Next question EJC

[left bobcat]

What’s a EJC

[pallid hare]

Evil John Creamer, a villainous ice cream man

[feral wraith]

That’s EJMe

[bold geode]

Whatever you want it to be

[real prairie]

what a fully loaded question

[feral wraith]

Except for Evil John Cena, it’s not that

[bold geode]

Evil John Creamer
Exotic Jamaican Conga
Extra Jalapeno Cheddar
Whatever

[left bobcat]

Imma be honest I didn’t read their entire username

[bold geode]

Yeah it's not Evil John Cena
Who would ever think that

[left bobcat]

I just read one is and that’s it

[pallid hare]

Epic Joined Crab

[feral wraith]

[bold geode]

Emo Jackrabbit Congregation

[feral wraith]

🐇

[pallid hare]

Empty Jambalaya Corn

[feral wraith]

🌽

[pallid hare]

https://tenor.com/view/aqua-teen-hunger-force-gentlemen-behold-corn-dr-weird-steve-gif-27485766

[feral wraith]

[bold geode]

Freak on A Leash intensifies

[real prairie]

Emma Joyful Creations

[feral wraith]

Living like a freak on a leash

[bold geode]

Freaky ahh leash

[feral wraith]

Yay someone new doing the initial game

[pallid hare]

Beak on a Feesh

[bold geode]

Brick on a Fence

FUCK IMMA MISS THE MONKEY EVENT

Eh I never played TCG Pocket anyway

[feral wraith]

No monkey for Monke

[real prairie]

can i have a spread for a Mystic water Urshifu please

[chrome knot]

me when i make batshit crazy spreads

[chrome knot]

calc to live 252+ thunderclap w/o proto

[real prairie]

you have that?

[chrome knot]

252+ SpA Raging Bolt Thunderclap vs. 204 HP / 92 SpD Urshifu-Rapid Strike: 180-212 (89.5 - 105.4%) -- 31.25% chance to OHKO

[real prairie]

252+ SpA Raging Bolt Thunderclap vs. 60 HP / 196 SpD Urshifu-Rapid-Strike: 156-186 (85.2 - 101.6%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO

[wispy spade]

ground tera blasts the bolt

[chrome knot]

i like fat ursh but

that works asw, +HP also helps with overall surviving more

[real prairie]

this was the recommended mystic water set on damage calculator, not sure its what i would run

[chrome knot]

right i like 204/196/12/0/92/4

[real prairie]

ill try that one then 😄 TY

Tera water, Adament?

[bold geode]

What that do

Oh we talking Ursh TClap calcs?

[chrome knot]

yes and yes

[bold geode]

Think mine is 92/188?

[foggy lodge]

Mine is uh

Whatever tang's spread is i don't remember

[bold geode]

Rolls that Clap and also lives a Tera Ghost Specs Barrage iirc

[calm gulch]

u stfu

[foggy lodge]

You know that Tang's Urshifu in tailwind doesn't outspeed roaring moon lol

[bold geode]

OH WADDUP PINCHE CABRON

#BullyYosta

[calm gulch]

what’s good asmr bean soup

[bold geode]

Nothin much
Finna do some household chores and shit
Wbu

[real prairie]

Bulky Pina is wild: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2304535017

[calm gulch]

gonna have dinner

[bold geode]

Pog
What's on the menu

[calm gulch]

made some pasta 🤌

[real prairie]

ooo we doing dinner talk

[bold geode]

Oh very nice

[real prairie]

just had a rump steak w/ chips + lemon pepper brocolli

[calm gulch]

sounds great

[real prairie]

it was V. yummy

hope your pasta is just as enjoyable

[bold geode]

1. Cut out broccoli for me
2. Ew British man calling them chips

[craggy dagger]

[bold geode]

HAI BESTIE

[chrome knot]

stimky

[real prairie]

Its crispy roasted brocolli 😄

and they are chips lol

fries are a sub-category of chips

[craggy dagger]

hiii

[real prairie]

hahahahah thats fucking adorable

[chrome knot]

https://tenor.com/view/lurantis-gif-25238733

[bold geode]

Oh @chrome knot we let the dog out

[chrome knot]

what

[bold geode]

Fuck I can't put Zam GIFs while outside wallahi

I went back to Zam and it's actually working

[foggy lodge]

Tomorrow EUIC les go

[real prairie]

and just like that ive put wide lense on Chi-Yu

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen9vgc2025regg-2304537932-n5po9tf905tgtf21iip1jel95tdd4fgpw

[feral wraith]

Hi Novaaaa

[craggy dagger]

[feral wraith]

[balmy glen]

[bold geode]

What's good Keanu
Bro never answered my question

[bold geode]

Why there leaves on your steak
(Low-key looks good)

[balmy glen]

What question

[real prairie]

rosemary

[bold geode]

It was a DM no worries

1. Why you use Bash over Heavy in San Antonio
2. Which move you think is better now

[chrome knot]

bash hit fairy cir

for relevant damage

[bold geode]

Ah
But generally is Slam better

[balmy glen]

Nah bash is better rn

[foggy lodge]

Bash is 100 BP against everything

[bold geode]

Bash is just better?
Aight running Zam rn I'll note that

[foggy lodge]

Heavy slam is only 80 BP against tera fairy Miraidon and 40 against Raging Bolt

I think it only kinda matters against tera fairy CSR?

[bold geode]

1500 BO1 ladder peak with the team which don't sound high to some but it's the highest I been in a minute so

AND THE TEAM DON'T FEEL LIKE UTTER DOGSHIT AFTER A DAY

[dense latch]

against whim too i think but that’s about it

i’m not even sure if it matters all that much anyways though

[dense latch]

let’s go, good shit

[foggy lodge]

4 Atk Zamazenta-Crowned Behemoth Bash vs. 92 HP / 20 Def Whimsicott: 150-176 (102 - 119.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

[dense latch]

yea nvm

[foggy lodge]

Eh

[bold geode]

Wellspring goated

I do probably need to fix spread though cuz even with Spdef boost rn I'm consistently taking like 54% from Astral Barrage

[real prairie]

lemme guess, Zama

[bold geode]

Yes

Don't disrespect the dog bro

[bold geode]

Good they went bald
They let me down too many times

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-dogs-stupid-funny-dog-stupid-fucking-dog-gif-22588837

nah JK, you do you. just seems very much like the mon to beat atm

[bold geode]

It's not in a great spot atm but it's working so uh
We take those

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 249: Lugia

Types

Psychic/Flying

Abilities

Pressure, Multiscale (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

106/90/130/90/154/110

Total

680

Sableye version 4.28.1

Move: Aeroblast

Has a higher chance for a critical hit.

Type

Flying

Category

Special

Power

100

Accuracy

95

PP (max)

5 (8)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Wind

Triggers Wind Power and Wind Rider.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[foggy lodge]

What were they thinking making a legendary with 90 atk god

Even Terapagos hits harder😭

[charred saddle]

im cooking

so hard

[dense latch]

you might’ve burnt half the city with this one

[charred saddle]

[dense latch]

is this the skill swap + defiant strat

[charred saddle]

no

sap sipper

to fuck around with rilla

idk im still on the thought process

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/2230yt/status/1892435771442823520?s=46

2230yt 🌺 (@2230yt) on X

Big fan of Making it Rain

X · Feb 20, 2025, 4:47 AM

[charred saddle]

thank you for the idea

i was thinking on what mon can play around fighting types and still be able to set + fight fairy

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 484: Palkia-Origin

Types

Water/Dragon

Abilities

Pressure, Telepathy (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

90/100/100/150/120/120

Total

680

Weight (Low Kick BP)

660kg (120 BP)

Height

6.3m

Introduced

Generation 8

Base Species

Palkia

Egg groups

Undiscovered

Gender Ratio

N/A: 100%

Required Item

Lustrous Globe

Color

Purple

Sableye version 4.28.1

Pokémon No. 484: Palkia

Types

Water/Dragon

Abilities

Pressure, Telepathy (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

90/120/100/150/120/100

Total

680

Weight (Low Kick BP)

336kg (120 BP)

Height

4.2m

Introduced

Generation 4

Other Formes

Palkia-Origin

Egg groups

Undiscovered

Gender Ratio

N/A: 100%

Color

Purple

Sableye version 4.28.1

Pokémon No. 898: Calyrex-Shadow

Types

Psychic/Ghost

Abilities

As One (Spectrier)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/85/80/165/100/150

Total

680

Weight (Low Kick BP)

53.6kg (80 BP)

Height

2.4m

Introduced

Generation 8

Base Species

Calyrex

Egg groups

Undiscovered

Gender Ratio

N/A: 100%

Color

Black

Sableye version 4.28.1

Pokémon No. 898: Calyrex-Ice

Types

Psychic/Ice

Abilities

As One (Glastrier)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/165/150/85/130/50

Total

680

Weight (Low Kick BP)

809.1kg (120 BP)

Height

2.4m

Introduced

Generation 8

Base Species

Calyrex

Egg groups

Undiscovered

Gender Ratio

N/A: 100%

Color

White

Sableye version 4.28.1

[chrome knot]

wee

[real prairie]

When you get a read right

[opal trout]

Should I swap Rillaboom for Incineroar and should I change stellar tera to tera water on Urshifu?

https://pokepast.es/c6e1264744901770

[charred saddle]

hmm i dsay no

too much dark typing overlaps

making it very hard to swap into CC or something

with incin 4 weak to fighting 1 neutral
also 3 weak to fairy, 2 neutral

[opal trout]

Ok

[charred saddle]

https://pokepast.es/e0609bc27c287b30
yes.

[dense latch]

why oranguru if you’re not running instruct

[charred saddle]

knockoff and trickroom + slow

but honestly its still iffy so

i might change

[dense latch]

farig is probably better here

also confused as to what benefits from tr aside from amoong

[charred saddle]

i wont bring TR in a case where i wont use it tho

prob for the knock off, but hm

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2304654754-6e52udlj5p1hso0nkmhm0lmlxxcmi8fpw

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2304657633

gapdos

[molten oasis]

How’s gapdos?

[charred saddle]

fun

the others are quite ass

[molten oasis]

Lmao

[chrome knot]

im gonna puke

watching CAN vs IL USPL and one of them is using Iron Leaves

[molten oasis]

lol

[foggy lodge]

EUIC
https://www.pokedata.ovh/standingsVGC/0000135/masters/

I think some people don't appear

I guess it will be complete when it starts

[left bobcat]

OMG ITS ME

Lesssssssssss gooooo

[next stump]

🙂

LOL andrew has been using leaves for almost a year he LOVES that pokemon

[chrome knot]

LOL ! It was just funny bc someone was arguing its viability this morning

its such a silly mon

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/iron-leaves-pokemon-pokemon-scarlet-and-violet-gif-4551971412055280233

[foggy lodge]

I think Leaves is good

Speed boost with a decent speed and good into Urshifu water

Made day 2 at worlds by Joshua and top 16 at Birmingham by Proman

Kinda crazy that out of the 3 swords paradox the one that breaks protect is the bad one lol

[bold geode]

They Iron Left their chances to win in the fields after shooting it out there

Holy fuck that's almost 1000 EUIC people
And there were still people who missed registration?

[dense latch]

rock psychic is such an ass typing iron boulder did not deserve that 💔

[foggy lodge]

Its like 1400 registrations iirc

I know that in swiss rounds it should be 12 swiss rounds

[bold geode]

Damn wish me luck later then

[foggy lodge]

Ready to see 2 dozogiris in top 8 monke?

[bold geode]

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

With what
Caly S or Mirai

Either or probably
Though probably Specs Mirai instead of AV cuz objectively better

[molten oasis]

Anyway gapdos cooking time

[next stump]

https://x.com/jwanie99/status/1892716653290406166?s=46&t=fDxHQLlKCKU_ddfszOAZ6w

Jwanie Pizzaslice (@Jwanie99) on X

Never thought I’d see this day: for what I believe is the first time in VGC history (unless this already happened way back in the day), the top 512 players will be getting CP from a major event. GL to everyone competing in EUIC tomorrow; I recommend not dropping unless you go X-5

X · Feb 20, 2025, 11:23 PM

[real prairie]

Would Adamant Tera Ice Ice Shard Chien Pao kill any prankster TW setter?

assuming it wasn't sash'd obviously

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/5b6086098b549ff8 :/

idk about this

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/SoulSurVGC/status/1892526942978519411

Jeudy ➡️ Pokemon Pocket (@SoulSurVGC) on X

THE EDATERS GOT TO LATIOS AND LATIAS

X · Feb 20, 2025, 10:49 AM

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/fcf4213b76a7bad3 maybe this is okay

[mint void]

Guys

I need help. What is OP for Gen 3 OU but only Kanto mons

[dense latch]

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/adv-ou-viability-ranking-and-metagame-discussion.3503019/

so like gengar, zapdos aerodactyl snorlax stuff maybe?

[real prairie]

LOL https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2304764881-5el8i8fmfdd4y2q23t0afbiq3r42xdopw

[real prairie]

Gen 3 you mean no physcial/Special split or you mean something else by Gen 3?

[molten oasis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2304763723-l5f6oag06emcrkgfds2agnhlr7butgypw not bad

[chrome knot]

that name is crazy LMFAO

PFFFFT

that was gross

[real prairie]

predictable stuff lol

[real prairie]

in a good way i hope lol

[chrome knot]

in a good way

you cooked him so badly he complained abt a common set 😭

[real prairie]

LOL

https://tenor.com/view/sanji-cooking-one-piece-gif-14981570359527007179

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2304767928

[mint void]

gen 3 ou - legies only kanto

[real prairie]

repeating it still doesn't help me, im an idiot lol

[molten oasis]

Huh I could have just clicked brave bird

252+ Atk Zapdos-Galar Helping Hand Brave Bird vs. 180 HP / 84 Def Calyrex-Shadow Rider: 178-210 (89.8 - 106%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO

[real prairie]

sandy shocks spotted

[molten oasis]

lol

[astral kelp]

holy shit he cooked

[real prairie]

he won, i tried to hard switch out from Incin expecting him to protect infront of Fakeout, instead he gravity Bbladed and put my Kyogre on low HP

[molten oasis]

That’s rough

[left bobcat]

Ig you can say that was a play rough

[torn parrot]

I want mega furret next gen

And then they make its mega ability run away

https://tenor.com/view/broken-in-rain-anime-sad-studio-ghibli-gif-16861288

[molten oasis]

lol

[astral kelp]

is alolan raichu good?

[next stump]

booty cheeks

[molten oasis]

Pretty bad Mon

[foggy lodge]

Complaining about scarf kyogre while playing calm mind miraidon😭

[chrome knot]

literally !

[real prairie]

F*CK YO' DOG
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2304775589-kaymfpqvcvxpwdqppvlkbfncj9ilov7pw

[untold urchin]

ik youre talking competitively but

[astral kelp]

wait thats interesting

does it make the partner unable to sleep too?

[torn parrot]

Kinda like the torn change

Allows you to lead tailwind ludicolo

[molten oasis]

Maya wdyt of this?

[torn parrot]

Oh lemme seee

[next stump]

yes

[real prairie]

actually made the change to deal with one of my big counters, Waterpon

[astral kelp]

has that ever seen play?

[molten oasis]

I remember the uproar farigiraf in like reg f

That’s was funny

[foggy lodge]

Yeah farigiraf used it

[torn parrot]

This looks really cool ^^ have you tested it yet?

[foggy lodge]

Kinda cool tech for amoonguss but i don't think its too good

For bo1 yeah for sure

[torn parrot]

The scarf bird is really cool

[torn parrot]

Different mindsets I guess lol

[real prairie]

all of your mucking around, i think you may be onto a niche strategy now lol

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/both-both-is-good-the-road-to-el-dorado-agreed-gif-23448946

[astral kelp]

the problem is getting locked into it lol

[next stump]

super cool uproar team from very early regulation G

[astral kelp]

yooo

[dense latch]

navjit joshi’s original idea for the team he got top 8 at worlds with had uproar farig

[astral kelp]

wait i can use it with rest

[dense latch]

it’ll just fail i believe

[molten oasis]

A little

[real prairie]

yeah itll fail

[molten oasis]

I beat a CSR and a Pagos

[astral kelp]

aw

that wouldve been sick otherwise

does it wake pokemon up or is it just preventative?

[next stump]

it should wake up

[astral kelp]

bruh thats like basically the team im building rn

[astral kelp]

so then i can rest before hand

turn 1 wake up

hm

ting lu time to shine :D

[torn parrot]

There’s a regional going on rn?

Im so bored i wanna watch something

[chrome knot]

euic is tomorrow

[foggy lodge]

That's Wobbleffet right?

[torn parrot]

Yayyyyy

[mint void]

Si

[next stump]

yes

[wild knot]

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X · Feb 20, 2025, 5:20 PM

[foggy lodge]

Oh shit that's a sash Amoonguss i didn't notice lol

Sash amoonguss is actually good imo

You guarantee surviving glacial expanding or draco meteor

[dusty gate]

Poor guy.

[real prairie]

okay then

[astral kelp]

huh

borb

it has parting shot helping hand tailwind intimidate and taunt

[real prairie]

its running intimidate

[left bobcat]

Ohhhhh lawd

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 931: Squawkabilly

Types

Normal/Flying

Abilities

Intimidate, Hustle, Guts (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

82/96/51/45/51/92

Total

417

Other Formes

Squawkabilly-Blue, Squawkabilly-Yellow, Squawkabilly-White

Sableye version 4.28.1

[astral kelp]

guts life orb facade squawkabiilly

[left bobcat]

Drink this

Smoke this

[astral kelp]

this is interesting

blaziken speed boost choice band last resort

omg you can use this with choice scarf or something

orangaru can prock weakness policy on an ally using choice scarf then give that pokemon its choice scarf

[left bobcat]

Uhhhhhhhh sure

🐟

[mint void]

Jo can anyone run me a Specs Venusaur calc with weather ball fire into zama OwO😊👉👈

[mint void]

Well that's not super stup8d ngl

[mint void]

Issue is orangurus lack of synergy with fast teams and it being slow. Even with scarf

[astral kelp]

im trying something

[astral kelp]

ahjahah yeah its weird

[mint void]

Id just run TR as the 4th slot still.

Ao u can revert

[astral kelp]

ofc i fight the one teaam that has trick LMAO

[astral kelp]

good idea

[mint void]

@astral kelp bulldoze might be an option for you here

Nvm

That fucks w9th symbiosis on Groudon nvm ignore it I didnt think

[astral kelp]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2304807443-k0nds7y98osbtg87sjsa1enhv8mg2r1pw

[mint void]

@astral kelp maybe run trick over encore

[astral kelp]

AHAHAHAHAHAH

[mint void]

So you have a niche for scarf if u cant hit ur own mon

[astral kelp]

ye sounds good

trick is funny

i can also trick my item back

[mint void]

Also might wanna look at florges

It has a better speed tier for scarf

244 allows you to outspeed jolly pao and rideons

[astral kelp]

florges?

[mint void]

Fairy flower

[molten oasis]

What am I looking at

[astral kelp]

do they do the same thing orangu does?

[mint void]

Same ability

[astral kelp]

watch the replay LMAO

[mint void]

Gimmick shit

Its funny

[molten oasis]

Bruh lol

[cyan smelt]

is giratina-o actually good?

[mint void]

No

Giratina is like the worst restricted no?

[cyan smelt]

mewtwo

[mint void]

Nah

Its just fucked cause CalyS is a better version

[left bobcat]

Super duper

[mint void]

@left bobcat in a way

But in a way its not that horrible

[torn parrot]

I think I’d probably want to use mewtwo over like reshiram or something

[left bobcat]

?

[astral kelp]

maybe i run protect

[left bobcat]

Always run protect

[torn parrot]

At least mewtwo can nuke with expanding force

[mint void]

Funny.

[astral kelp]

i mean on choice scarf oranguru LOL

[mint void]

Why tho?

[astral kelp]

they keep doubling up orangu :(

[torn parrot]

[mint void]

Yeah. Giratina kinda just doesnt do anything. Just use Dragapult

[left bobcat]

Uhhhh why?

[mint void]

@left bobcat symbiosis gives it away anyway but I still dont see protect since ud only want it turn 1 and u cant use it turn 1

[astral kelp]

no instruct on flower tho

[mint void]

Even tho u could if the opponent would proc policy anyway

[left bobcat]

Mmmmmmmmmmmmm

[mint void]

Yeah but ngl that's not too bad

[mint void]

Monke?

[left bobcat]

Yes

[mint void]

What abt it?

[dense latch]

who’s that mid ass mon

[mint void]

Imma go explore this shit with Solgaleo

Oranguru

[dense latch]

ig you’re not really using oranguru for offensive purposes so it’s not that bad actually

[left bobcat]

A monkey

[dense latch]

90/80/110 is respectable bulk

[astral kelp]

les try it with florges

[left bobcat]

Try what?

[mint void]

Symbiosis shit

[torn parrot]

Scarf oranguru next to calyrex shadow

ASTRAL ASTRAL

[left bobcat]

Did they really have to give it a base 154 sp def

[astral kelp]

okay so

i might have a problem

[left bobcat]

Ok

[astral kelp]

my trailblaze

i mean precipice blades

[dense latch]

av florges damage calcs must be fun

[left bobcat]

Ok

[mint void]

Wompwomp

[astral kelp]

it fucking missed both oponents

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2304813147

[mint void]

Wompwomp

[left bobcat]

It be like that

[mint void]

I was too fast there

[mint void]

Volcarona with heatwave be like:

[left bobcat]

If it ain’t 100% accurate then it’s a good chance it’s gonna miss

[mint void]

He makes up with Flame Body procs tho

[astral kelp]

0.15*0.15

maybe i run somethign with gravity

[left bobcat]

Just use gravity lil bro

[mint void]

Oranguru

[astral kelp]

okay so i have a plan

[left bobcat]

Trick room gravity oranguru?

[astral kelp]

IT WORKED

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2304815345

distract them with ditto gambling muahahah

this guy roped the shit out of me tho

[left bobcat]

Uh sure

Good job 👍

[astral kelp]

i feel so accomplished

[left bobcat]

Good

Ig

[astral kelp]

try it its fun nyeheh

[left bobcat]

Eh I tried just about a lot with Groudon

[astral kelp]

i bet youve never tried this specifically

[left bobcat]

No because it’s too much hassle when I can do it better

[dull ibex]

Hello everyone

[left bobcat]

Hello

[dull ibex]

Excited for Pokemon day

[left bobcat]

Oh that’s right

It’s almost that time of the year

[molten oasis]

Bro I lost a game cuz the Bloodmoon on their team was faster than the Fari

So it was slower in tr which cost me the game

[mint void]

Huh

I dont get it what?

[molten oasis]

Wow this just sucks

[molten oasis]

The Bloodmoon undersped the Fari and I needed it to not

Anyway done with this I lead wrong and the game is over

[foggy lodge]

EUIC in 6 hours

[dense latch]

i’m so ready to wake up at 4am

[foggy lodge]

just don't sleep ez

[dense latch]

https://pokepast.es/075d7497c0f76594 trying to pick between rockpon and waterpon for this team, any other suggestions would be nice too

it’d probably be rockpon + waterfu or stay like this

i need a water resist

[molten oasis]

this team feels kinda meh rn

https://pokepast.es/6af9c3d9878897bc kinda sucks losing to Rayquaza because of parahax and incin CSR teams

[timber falcon]

for a csr team, urshifu is the best way to get passed incin right?

[timber falcon]

maybe snarl bolt for CSR?

[molten oasis]

I need the offense

[timber falcon]

urshifu to pressure the tera/swap

on incin

[molten oasis]

Non scarf shifu doesn’t want to sit infront of CSR

[timber falcon]

oh its mystic water

yeah astral barrage is kinda free against ur team

[timber falcon]

waterpon works as a swap into surging strike, but cornerstone is better if you want something relaible to take hits

[molten oasis]

Yea well im not shoving incin on here or replacing the team for mid normal types, that don’t do much into set up CSR

[timber falcon]

are any of the mons "island mons"?

[next stump]

i like rock more on this kinda team

[timber falcon]

for tr right?

[next stump]

hits a lot of problematic pokemon for good damage and gives you another focus sash for stuff like calyrex shadow

and yeah, way better for redirecting trick room