competitive_discussion

[shadow wind]

I personally used AV Entei for that reason

[cyan smelt]

Av is already on rilla, would need to use choice band or lorb if I was running entei

[shadow wind]

Rilla could always hold Miracle Seed, becomes squishier but hits like a truck

[cyan smelt]

Not sure about that seeing as with Mirai teams they like to pivot miraidon a lot

[shadow wind]

True

I would suggest lorb Entei then

Getting locked into espeed sucks so bad

[cyan smelt]

I'll see, if I can handle caly s with my current team then I'll manage but if I struggle I'll switch to entei

I think my team would struggle with dozo otherwise

[solid frigate]

i just trying to find reference pictures for my VGC guide and i saw this from Moxie's Channel

[cyan smelt]

Love the okidogi

[solid frigate]

the opposing team stole my Idea before i bring it to bham lmao (Granted its just worlds team+Iron Crown)

[cyan smelt]

Crown?

[solid frigate]

it was the og team before i changed Farigiraf to Flutter Mane

[cyan smelt]

Man I hate the world's team

Conner I look forward to your eternatus team

[torn parrot]

I’m defintely taking a break rn I think it’s best I focus on my art for now

https://tenor.com/view/yuru-camp-kagamihara-nadeshiko-sleep-nadeshiko-gif-27053496

[balmy glen]

What art :0

[torn parrot]

I’m in art school rn I wanna eventually make a career out of it so ima focus on that for now and try to build up my portfolio

[balmy glen]

nice

good luck with that

maybe you can draw me after I win worlds frfr

jokes aside I’ve always wanted a fan art thing after winning a major I’ve been seeing those and think they are sick

[solid frigate]

it would be sick tho ngl

[torn parrot]

Hell yeah I will 🤩 with the whole team

[solid frigate]

i almost asked my friend to draw my in game character and my team after Bham since its my first regional but whatever its aight

[torn parrot]

I made this a while back but it’s one of my faves

[real prairie]

centiskorch flames perfectly look like an old dad moustache

[solid frigate]

dabugs

[real prairie]

oh and G'morning everyone

[solid frigate]

morning

[real prairie]

think i played you Y'day

or someone else with Carbink Ttar

[solid frigate]

why are you in Doubles OU lmao

[torn parrot]

I’ve acquired the taste of salt and vinegar

[solid frigate]

every showdown players be like:

[real prairie]

on maybe not then lol

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/winning-charliesheen-summer-win-won-gif-17974105

[balmy glen]

Why aren’t u in double ou

[molten oasis]

Wow that’s really pretty art

You’re majoring in art? What’s that like?

[solid frigate]

because i am just in VGCing

[astral kelp]

loool

doubles ou is great man\

[real prairie]

Yeah I hit 1600 in doubles OU last year before reg G was out

[balmy glen]

Doubles ou ladder is free

It’s not really hard unless your playing tournaments for smogon

[real prairie]

Oh it might have been doubles Ubers actually

Just remember a bunch of Arceus 🤣

[balmy glen]

There’s loads of great vgc players from DOU roots. I don’t think I’m like super good yet but myself, Emilio, James Baek, Justin Burns, Michael Zhang, etc etc

Dubers is a funny format

Good to learn comps for double restricted tho

[real prairie]

Yeah that's the reason I was playing it and where I got the foundations for my team

[solid frigate]

yeah which is fucking easy there

[real prairie]

The only difference was I was running a healing wish Indeedee so I could heal my Kyogre in the late game 🤣

[balmy glen]

lmao

[real prairie]

Facing scarf lv100 water spout Kyogre ... Twice was just evil on my part 🤣🤣🤣

[cyan smelt]

Did U ever think about pawmot

[solid frigate]

Arceus is kinda mid imo lmao

[solid frigate]

Me be like every fucking time lmao

[real prairie]

revival blessing only heals 50% HP

great for CSR, not great for Water Spout

[cyan smelt]

Oh I didn't know healing wish heals fully

[real prairie]

yeah, its essentially a full restore

just seen JB video, Zoom Lens Heatran got 10th in GC LOL

[solid frigate]

i need to have a moment here

ZOOM LENS HEATR-

[real prairie]

nah i just got Flambé'd, last turn of TR i switch and protect and they double TR to reset the counter.

https://tenor.com/view/savages-bye-sponge-bob-sad-ight-gif-15283681

[cyan smelt]

Yesterday I used close combat into caly s expecting a tera and lost because of it

Should have just used surging strikes

[real prairie]

see thats fine, its you over playing. i just got straight cooked

[cyan smelt]

If they have two tr setters on the field always predict the double tr

[real prairie]

yeah lesson learnt

[cyan smelt]

I've made that mistake before too

[cyan smelt]

I hope they don't make mythicals legal because then people will use pecharunt with caly s to do poison gas confusion and it'll be hell

[real prairie]

i hate long games: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2299273367-2ffndh748kxv5dpvh9tg831hg6a5t55pw

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/mexican-dancing-pokemon-ludicolo-gif-8176036

Finally, a use case for Own Tempo Ludicolo

[cyan smelt]

Own tempo teeter dance ludicolo

[real prairie]

with side prankster swagger

[cyan smelt]

Does it have a good physical movepool?

[left bobcat]

Check out the swag yo

[real prairie]

Yeah because its from Gen 3, before the Phys/Spec split

[tiny karma]

Ludicolo's moveset:

Physical Moves

Astonish, Body Slam, Brick Break, Bullet Seed, Counter, Dive, Double-Edge, Drain Punch, Dynamic Punch, Facade, Fake Out, Fire Punch, Flail, Fling, Focus Punch, Frustration, Fury Swipes, Giga Impact, Grassy Glide, Headbutt, Ice Punch, Ice Spinner, Knock Off, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Natural Gift, Power-Up Punch, Razor Leaf, Return, Rock Smash, Secret Power, Seed Bomb, Seismic Toss, Strength, Take Down, Thief, Thunder Punch, Trailblaze, Waterfall, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Absorb, Blizzard, Bubble, Bubble Beam, Chilling Water, Disarming Voice, Echoed Voice, Energy Ball, Focus Blast, Giga Drain, Grass Knot, Hidden Power, Hydro Pump, Hyper Beam, Hyper Voice, Ice Beam, Icy Wind, Leaf Storm, Magical Leaf, Mega Drain, Mud Shot, Mud-Slap, Muddy Water, Round, Scald, Snore, Solar Beam, Surf, Swift, Tera Blast, Uproar, Water Gun, Water Pulse, Weather Ball, Whirlpool

Status Moves

Amnesia, Attract, Captivate, Confide, Double Team, Encore, Endure, Flash, Grassy Terrain, Growl, Hail, Hone Claws, Leech Seed, Metronome, Mimic, Mist, Nature Power, Protect, Rain Dance, Rest, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Sweet Scent, Swords Dance, Synthesis, Teeter Dance, Tickle, Toxic, Water Sport

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Ludicolo.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[cyan smelt]

Only thing is pecharunt has 160 def

[real prairie]

not after a couple tickles 😉

[cyan smelt]

Ik if mythicals are legal I'll use pecharunt+ caly s

[real prairie]

ill bring Mew, super boosted Smeargle

[chrome knot]

magearna

[left bobcat]

Keldeo

[real prairie]

LOOOOOOOOOOL

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2299296322

Chien Pao just sat there like:

https://tenor.com/view/sips-tea-dj-khaled-released-youtube-originals-sip-gif-21739502

[chrome knot]

??????

[molten oasis]

There aint no way he clicked sludge wave there

Idiot lmao

[real prairie]

the life orb recoil just made it worse

i assumed it was their only attacking move 🤣

[real prairie]

you see the replay?

[chrome knot]

yes

my reaction to ur dickhead opponent

[real prairie]

OH LOL

[molten oasis]

I’m more surprised he didn’t go after pao

You totally lost if he did cuz it ate the ice spinner

[real prairie]

yep

wait no, I outspeed and might have survived a sludge wave

[chrome knot]

absolutely not

assuming you sucker miraidon bc you dont wanna play 50/50 speed tie, sludge wave is now single target going into pao

who is pretty frail

[real prairie]

i meant if he targetted Pao and i was left 1v2 Kyogre vs Miraidon + Moth

[molten oasis]

At 19%?

[real prairie]

kyogre out speeds Miraidon, and might survive a sludge wave at 65%, Moth dies to life orb recoil

[molten oasis]

Oh you’re scarf

Eeehh, I still don’t think you take LORB quark boost single target sludge wave

[real prairie]

yeah its a doubt

[molten oasis]

Assuming no bulk

252 SpA Life Orb Quark Drive Iron Moth Sludge Wave vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Kyogre: 109-130 (62.2 - 74.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO no lol

[real prairie]

252 SpA Life Orb Quark Drive Iron Moth Sludge Wave vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Kyogre: 109-129 (62.2 - 73.7%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO

thats with Kyogre at 65%

[molten oasis]

There was a chance

[real prairie]

thats also assuming its max SpA

which probably is with Lorb

but based on his decision making i wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't 🤣

[molten oasis]

True lol

[left bobcat]

Bro

[real prairie]

bro

[solid frigate]

Bro

[mint void]

Bro

[mint void]

Kyurem is just worse Kyogre ngl

you pretty much want weath to have ur stupid spread move be powered up/accurate

but u dont have water spout and cant set weather urself so u need a9 or someone else to set snow

[rustic mountain]

i wouldnt even say they are comparable

kyruem is just a c tier restricted

[real prairie]

power isn't boosted by snow either right?

just Def

[charred saddle]

ye

just inconsistent,
also tera = losing def boost so

unless ice tera

but still

[left bobcat]

Ye?

[shadow wind]

Tera ice specs blizzard ‼️‼️

[left bobcat]

TERA ICE MODEST SPECS CALY ICE BLIZZARD?

Ok let him cook

[shadow wind]

I did indeed run that

Nah just kidding, ain’t no one running CIR

[left bobcat]

[left bobcat]

[shadow wind]

Kyurem black is where it’s at bro

[left bobcat]

Blizzard?

[bold geode]

Bro
Luka happy as hell

[left bobcat]

Kyurem black?

[shadow wind]

Nah

[rustic mountain]

good

need him to resign

[bold geode]

"Damm I got a guy down the court already"

[rustic mountain]

lmao

also ad injury

[bold geode]

DIDN'T EVEN FINISH A GAME DUDE

[rustic mountain]

nico literally cant even appear in public normally

[left bobcat]

Why

[bold geode]

Nico got opps rn for sure

[rustic mountain]

cause fans are insane

[bold geode]

He was the one behind the Luka Anthony Davis trade

[left bobcat]

What’s that?

[rustic mountain]

i get disagreeing over the trade but thats too much mavs fans gta chill

[left bobcat]

I got no idea what’s going on in that scene

[rustic mountain]

[left bobcat]

I don’t keep up with the media

Well at least for the vgc community

So what’s the context

[bold geode]

Basically Luka was the face of the Mavs and AD was like
A good player for the Lakers but not like crazy right
We don't trade away the face usually that's not like
Not usually reasonable unless they just absolutely don't wanna be there anymore

But they did

[left bobcat]

oh nvm

I heard about it

Keyword lakers

[shadow wind]

Kyurem black actually does still have 120 spatk

With freeze dry and blizzard

It has better special attacks than physical

[bold geode]

Yeah and Anthony Davis literally went 3 quarters before getting injured
And Luka well he went 15-4-5 iirc but he looked not too bad from what I've seen

[left bobcat]

Sadly

[shadow wind]

Freeze shock is so trash

[left bobcat]

Fr

Freeze shock/burn charge up move for 1 turn and for what?

You don’t even get a boost

[shadow wind]

Power creep

Imagine

Physical snow variant electro shot

[left bobcat]

Well it’s still snow

[shadow wind]

Nah Kyurem black would be goated

110 base power ice move

Get an attack boost and no charge in snow

[left bobcat]

They have kyurem black and kyurem white but where’s kyurem Juan?

[shadow wind]

Kyurem grey 😔

[left bobcat]

Kyurem yellow

Well imma eat lunch toodles 🏃🏽💨

[rustic mountain]

in 24min

he looked pretty comfortable out there

once he actually gets a better team around him its a wrap

[bold geode]

Hell when you think about it, it's actually crazy now in terms of offense

Like oh what are you gonna do if Luka is hot, double guard him and leave LeBron open?

[left bobcat]

I’m good from state to state

You go to the state you might GET-

[real prairie]

@mighty stump https://www.instagram.com/reel/DF49sLCMNQa/?igsh=MWZ5OGx4N2JvN2ZiZw==

[mint void]

yeah idk kinda just wanted to asy its pretty ass since it eats up a lot of value due to the needed supportive mons

[mint void]

WWF?

thats an environmental protection group or w/e they are

[mint void]

kyurem already has a charge move tho

its ass but

[left bobcat]

they should buff it

geomancy but 2x

[shadow wind]

I was suggesting that the charge move did what electro shot did

[real prairie]

Showing your age lol WWE was WWF back in the day

[left bobcat]

☝️👨🏻‍🦳

[mint void]

its a joke

[real prairie]

Yes I'm an old bastard

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/sorry-gif-19656670

[left bobcat]

I’m a young bastard

We are not the same

But what if-

[next stump]

atlanta registration live for anyone playing

[real prairie]

Fuck off

But yeah, if anyone wanted to attend. Good news 🤣

[rustic mountain]

lebron and luka for offense is good, its just defensively they gta get guys that can supplement their weakness on that end

[rustic mountain]

yea good restricteds have built in enabling, miraidon w/ terrain + ability, kyogre setting weather for its stabs, horses getting boosts off kos

kyruem has none of that

[next stump]

damn they just keeping adding spots

[real prairie]

It's a tough weekend in the UK with kids because it's half term

[next stump]

I’m really really hoping next year the date for EUIC lines up with a weekend I can go

[foggy lodge]

Dude how many people will go to EUIC lol

[next stump]

i think it’s 1200-1300

very large tourney

[foggy lodge]

Sick

That would be 12 swiss rounds i think

[mint void]

Big

[next stump]

I can’t believe they used to have 15 swiss tounds

rounds*

[foggy lodge]

Its crazy

Bologna was 15 swiss rounds

And somehow Alessio ended 15-0

I would not have survived 15 rounds💀

[left bobcat]

YO

Atlanta is near by

[chrome knot]

gang icr what day we had the coaching conversations but

if you want assistance before a regional or ic id super recommend pengy

[mint void]

@chrome knot NA based tho no?

Yeah.

Wtf even is the meta rn

[molten oasis]

That’s nuts

I could never

[next stump]

it was fun but exhausting

[molten oasis]

That’s 30-45 games that day

[foggy lodge]

How was the swiss round system last season?

[next stump]

9 rounds day 1, 5 or 6 rounds day 2

top 8 cut

[foggy lodge]

Hm

And how was the amount of rounds decided?

[next stump]

player count

I think 800 total players meant 6 rounds day 2

maybe it was higher, like 1000

[foggy lodge]

Ohh makes sense

[shadow wind]

Who let this happen

[molten oasis]

Apparently your moronic opponent

[left bobcat]

Eh just thunderclap

[shadow wind]

Hypnosis ‼️

More like

Hype-nosis

[left bobcat]

HYPE

noses

[cyan smelt]

Milotic is slept on

[shadow wind]

Coil helps it against CIR a lot

And it still having scald is dope

But man I need to pull out all the tricks for KB to work 😭

[cyan smelt]

Hypnosis is good because it can still sleep incin

[shadow wind]

Yuppers

100% accurate after 2 coils

[cyan smelt]

How does it do against csr

[shadow wind]

I usually don't bring it

[cyan smelt]

And I guess you never bring it against miraidon

[shadow wind]

Yeah nah

I do have four good mons for CSR though

So Milo shouldn't ever come

[foggy lodge]

Safeguard Milotic lowkey cooks

[shadow wind]

Ah heck nah

It actually ain't that bad but man, I'm tight for moves

😔

[cyan smelt]

Mist milotic

[shadow wind]

KB will eternally struggle

[cyan smelt]

Mist milotic might help with intimidate spam

[shadow wind]

I'm pulling out everything I got for this trash man to work

I'm ok with Intimidate spam

They had Lando and Incin 😭

[cyan smelt]

Oh right

[shadow wind]

Imagine if Groudon had coil 😔

That's AV Ursa BM by the way

[cyan smelt]

Ig that's your csr answer

[shadow wind]

I mean roaring moon

[cyan smelt]

Oh true that too

[shadow wind]

Gholdengo if they don't have TW

And Kyurem shockingly does do damage

His damage is extremely underwhelming though

😔

[cyan smelt]

At least it's good for breaking sash

[shadow wind]

Yup

Scale shot does kill Pao

90% of the time anyway...

If it could hit 5 times every time he would be way way better

Still garbage

But there have been so many times where I miss the KO by like 4%

[cyan smelt]

Kyurem white is just better because you don't need loaded dice

And it hits like a truck

[shadow wind]

And no intimidate

And a spread stab move

And Fusion flare

[cyan smelt]

Having said that I did lose to a kyurem black on cart once

[shadow wind]

Fusion bolt is like ehhhhh...

It's great for Kyogre though

Bro is THE Kyogre killer

Only good thing KB can do is kill birds extremely well

[cyan smelt]

Dies to a lot of things in the meta though

[shadow wind]

Just one or 2...

That's why I paired it with Rocky helmet volc

[torn parrot]

i beleive conner

[shadow wind]

It's so rough 😭

Might be the worst pokemon I have ever used on a team

Would literally rather have a lapras

[torn parrot]

i think id rather just use baxcalibur

theyre almost the same exact pokemon

the only difference is stats

but

i have faith!!

gettem

[shadow wind]

😔

[torn parrot]

he doesnt even have ice shard to take advantage of his ability when farigiraf is on the field

);

[shadow wind]

Nope

He has 4 ice moves and 3 of them can miss

[cyan smelt]

Which ones

[shadow wind]

Oh I lied

2/4 can miss

[torn parrot]

one of them is avalanch

[shadow wind]

Avalanche - 100% accurate
Icicle Spear - 100% accurate
Ice Fang - 95% accurate
Freeze Shock - 90% accurate

And those are the physical ones, he actually has better special moves

[torn parrot]

they could have given him ice spinner

thats not too much to ask

[shadow wind]

Literally

Then I can run dragon claw

And CA

And STILL not be able to hit Incin

[cyan smelt]

Koraidon is a much better loaded dice user

[shadow wind]

I 100% agree

[cyan smelt]

Poor kyurem black has just been power crept

[shadow wind]

But I refuse to let him die !

[cyan smelt]

Have you tried howl spam

[shadow wind]

Yeah

He’s too slow

[cyan smelt]

Howl spam just doesn't seem to work this reg

[shadow wind]

Works with Groudon

Cause he’s fat

I made my Kyurem very fast

[cyan smelt]

Groudon has weather to enable a bunch of other mons, kyurem black just doesn't have weather or terrain

[shadow wind]

Yeah no

He literally does nothing but have a flashy stat

And a sick design

[cyan smelt]

They need to buff him

[shadow wind]

Just make scale shot 100% accurate and that’s all

Well maybe not all but it makes him better

[cyan smelt]

They don't buff old legends though, they just introduce broken new legends with great movepools

[shadow wind]

Yeah they need to stop giving things every single move known to man

Literally zero reason for Miraidon to get Dgleam

[cyan smelt]

Literally zero reason for flutter and miraidon to have 135 base special attack and speed

[shadow wind]

For fun 🥺🥺🥺

[cyan smelt]

And then some people are putting chi yu on the world's team

[shadow wind]

Yeah those people are stupid

Ogerpon is better

On that team anyway

[cyan smelt]

I hate the world's team and I hate the caly s geezing team

[shadow wind]

Yeah both of those are awful teams to fight

They just don’t run out of options

[cyan smelt]

I feel like I could theoretically deal with the geezing caly s team but I don't know

Still don't know what the tera on geezing is

[shadow wind]

I think they normally run grass

[cyan smelt]

I need to know if wide guard blocks poison gas, but then the geezing is just gonna strange steam pao

[shadow wind]

I believe it does

[cyan smelt]

I feel like Zama could live one astral barrage and they're not gonna try poison gas on zama

[foggy lodge]

Tang's team is so goated i love it

[shadow wind]

How does it deal with Kyogre?

[foggy lodge]

I actually

[cyan smelt]

What's tang's team again, is that tera water lando

[foggy lodge]

Don't know lines into Kyogre lol

It depends i guess

Like against the balance one with Roaring Moon or Jugulis

Hmmm

[dense latch]

from the team report they said roaring moon ursh lead iirc

strongly recommend the video that it’s a nice watch

[foggy lodge]

Yeah it sounds fine

[cyan smelt]

Should I replace torn with roaring moon to improve my caly s mu, the only downside is I lose rain dance

[foggy lodge]

Both cover the tera Kyogre that they almost always lead because Kyogre CM in the back doesn't have much impact

[dense latch]

that’s not that big of a deal

[foggy lodge]

And Roaring cover Rilla and Urshifu Incin

Also Amoonguss

[dense latch]

what’s your team

[foggy lodge]

Only problem i would see is like Amoonguss lead

[cyan smelt]

Currently torn, Zama, urshifu, Rillaboom, chien pao and skeledirge

Stacking fairy weaknesses if I add roaring moon

[dense latch]

maybe flutter?

[foggy lodge]

Flutter is the best role compression here lol

Tornadus speed control and ghost type

[cyan smelt]

So icy wind flutter?

[foggy lodge]

I don't think Roaring with Zama is that good like

[dense latch]

yea

[foggy lodge]

You become kinda weak into the mirror

Unless you have Amoonguss

If you have Rilla you are cooked against other Zama

I just fought a Koraidon Araquanid

[cyan smelt]

Was it wide guard araquanid

[foggy lodge]

Yeah

It lived a sludge bomb from Lando surprisingly

And also god i love this bulky Landorus

Survived a flare blitz from Koraidon

Non tera tho but still

[dense latch]

i’ve been trying out cir screens with the bulky tang sets

astral barrage not being a 3HKO on tera cir is so nice

[foggy lodge]

Not even 3HKO?

[torn parrot]

not even 3 is crazy...

😭

[foggy lodge]

Dude wtf😭

Who is Mattmaster2010 and why is he so good

[cyan smelt]

Do the top 10 just play each other over and over and just gain like 3 elo each time

[foggy lodge]

Maybe

Bo3 ladder is so damn high now

1500 doesn't even makes it to top 500

[cyan smelt]

I feel like I'd get my ass kicked if I tried bo3 but I need to practice if I want to go to the Brisbane regional

[foggy lodge]

Meh

The average is like 1400 in bo3

Its a good warmup

Now I mainly want to spam limitless tours

[mighty stump]

just play

stop thinking

just play

[torn parrot]

It looks daunting from an outside perspective but when you start playing it, it’s not scary anymore

It does take ages to climb tho

[real prairie]

Morning folks

[mighty stump]

Good morning

My Valentine’s plan has come together

it all worked out

[real prairie]

Lovely stuff

[tranquil kraken]

where are you taking me

[mighty stump]

The back of the shed

😜

[tranquil kraken]

[mighty stump]

hope you brought no clothes

[tranquil kraken]

that's my standard outfit of the day

[mighty stump]

noodies

[tranquil kraken]

nongshim?

[mighty stump]

samyang brand bro

[tranquil kraken]

[mighty stump]

superior stuff

[tranquil kraken]

ok yeah samyang is elite

[mighty stump]

would you like

to see

cat balls

[tranquil kraken]

not necessarily

[mighty stump]

its very funny

[tranquil kraken]

but get me jjajang noodles pls

[mighty stump]

youre getting a DM

[tranquil kraken]

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/what-is-happening-this-what-gif-19803847

[tranquil kraken]

dont worry about it

[mighty stump]

Disclaimer - I am a veterinarian

Hence

I have cat balls on my phone

[tranquil kraken]

i can confirm

now for another topic

what noodles do you prefer

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-sure-john-candy-ok-gif-15377612

[mighty stump]

Samyanf x2 spicy

[tranquil kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/denzel-training-day-gif-16743259178450786472

[mighty stump]

BUT

important addition

ok

[tranquil kraken]

don't say cheese,,.,

[mighty stump]

squeeze of lime, finely chopped coriander

you will thank me

[tranquil kraken]

ok based

coriander elite

[mighty stump]

CORIANDER ELITE

[tranquil kraken]

"iT tAsTe LiKe SoAp"

massive skill issue

[spiral ridge]

:(

First message I read it’s a damn shot in the head

[mighty stump]

Literally built wrong

[tranquil kraken]

sorry scotty you needed to hear this

[mighty stump]

Refund your life, ask God

[spiral ridge]

Brother my knee has broken on me twice I’m aware my DNA ain’t top crop

[tranquil kraken]

clearly not IV trained

[spiral ridge]

-def

[mighty stump]

-def nature 0 IV natural

I have never broken a bone

[spiral ridge]

I’ve had a bone broken by some asshoke kids

[mighty stump]

cant say my joints are great but

[spiral ridge]

This was a muscle tearing

[mighty stump]

skill issue

gapped

[spiral ridge]

Grabbed my legs on a hill and then all let go and pushed me so by entire weight landed on my shoulder

[tranquil kraken]

what stupid kids

[spiral ridge]

Attack on titan my ass

I fucking hate kids

[real prairie]

@mighty stump thanks for sharing your ginger nuts, went down a treat with my cuppa

[gentle crag]

oneofakindof has given 1 Gen Rep to woodtofu

[mighty stump]

Ez rep farming

[spiral ridge]

This is why anytime I see one I break them first :)

[mighty stump]

oof

[tranquil kraken]

[mighty stump]

i don’t intend to have kids in the future - I’m too awkward

I also get overstimmed from the noise they make

[spiral ridge]

Anyways 4 am and still feel scared swallowing so ima just commit to sleep

[mighty stump]

swallowing…?

[spiral ridge]

Yeah same fuck that shit

[mighty stump]

i respect those who can have kids

[real prairie]

yeah, took me having 3 of the cunts before i realised I do too

[spiral ridge]

Stomach

[mighty stump]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[real prairie]

but apparently theres a no return policy

[mighty stump]

I DONT THINK YOU CAN SAY THAT

[spiral ridge]

There’s drop off points

[mighty stump]

oh naur

[real prairie]

I can as long as no one is silly enough to take me seriously lol

[mighty stump]

Kobe them straight into

true

[tranquil kraken]

poor kiddos

[mighty stump]

my girlfriend actually had that like

image

[real prairie]

i love my little rugrats haha

[spiral ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/issa-rae-insecure-hbo-gif-23978035

[mighty stump]

idk if yall have seen the comic of a baby being kobe’d

[spiral ridge]

Yes I have

[mighty stump]

she has it embroidered into this pouch she kees the birth control in

[spiral ridge]

It’s a wonderful comic that I saw someone draw it onto their birth control NO WAY

[real prairie]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[mighty stump]

HAHAHAHAHAHA

[spiral ridge]

TOFU HOW DID WE JUST

[mighty stump]

HAHAHAHAHHAHAA

[spiral ridge]

ONE I SAW WAS PAINTED

[real prairie]

the real winners here are the people that marketted that lol

[spiral ridge]

girlhood is cutesifying your Birth control ig

[mighty stump]

truly

[spiral ridge]

I mean when you deal with hell what else can ya do but make it look nice

[mighty stump]

Yeah

[spiral ridge]

Why else do people paint the walls in asylums

[mighty stump]

Whoever I end up with I intend to vasectomy

so they dont jave to birth control

[spiral ridge]

Fair enough

[tranquil kraken]

just like kitty

snip snip

[mighty stump]

Medically it’s more intelligent for a once-off procedure

[spiral ridge]

Just do it now so any girl you meet gets that liberty

[mighty stump]

LOL

[mighty stump]

I’m committed - how do I know this

I’m making the extrmee life decision

of getting tattoos together

[spiral ridge]

How long you been dating?

[mighty stump]

Wanna hear the worst part

[tranquil kraken]

tattoo my initials...

[mighty stump]

We just got together officially 11/2

Talking? Last December

[spiral ridge]

…
Call me a hater but make sure it looks good stand alone

[real prairie]

don't get anything matching, i beg. its the kiss of death to tremendous relationships

[mighty stump]

It does

[tranquil kraken]

🙏

but grats on the relationship :3

[spiral ridge]

That’s more acceptable but still wow dude

[mighty stump]

Okay

[spiral ridge]

Glad you’re happy

[mighty stump]

Here’s the reason why

This is me explainign to my friends

[real prairie]

and beleive it or not, we want you happy @mighty stump lol

[mighty stump]

Mind you

[spiral ridge]

Hi Luna

[mighty stump]

I am an extreme skeptic

and I was never one for this shit

i had previous partners ask for tattoos

or tattoos on me from them

and i always said no

hard no

[spiral ridge]

Did this girl like stockholms you in???

Girlie broke you down you ain’t leaving now I see where you’re going

[real prairie]

anywho, whats the ink Wood Man

[spiral ridge]

You’re cooked in a either very good or bad way 😭

Oh yeah the actual tattoo

[mighty stump]

dude I do not know

I felt drawn to her from the get go

[twin kindle]

What are you going on abt

[spiral ridge]

What da hell

[tranquil kraken]

Did you use narcotics

[mighty stump]

So theres two - one is just a random flash art that i liked and she happened to like as well so I’m just like ok. more for my own aesthetic

[spiral ridge]

I can’t picture at all from your words wtf how did you both understand and same idea 😭😭

[mighty stump]

I am strictly drug free

[tranquil kraken]

Proud of you

[mighty stump]

i told you

i dont know

[spiral ridge]

Tofus complete domestication to his recent gf

[mighty stump]

Listen I am 100% alright being a whipped man

[spiral ridge]

Your turn

[mighty stump]

the second tattoo is our matching one

[spiral ridge]

Listen I’ll get the ice and you can talk about it cus amen to that

[mighty stump]

also this is the flash

[twin kindle]

it’s called appreciation, duhh

[mighty stump]

but

we’re getting a white circle

HAHA

[spiral ridge]

Ah

[mighty stump]

yes i know white ink fades

and it wont be seen

but seems apt

[spiral ridge]

I think I get it

[mighty stump]

yea

we both had a moment of

[spiral ridge]

Domestication sounds lot funnier

[mighty stump]

conpletion? if you wanna call it that

[real prairie]

you may want to get your ceiling tested for asbestos

[spiral ridge]

And what am I but someone who’s up for a jest

[mighty stump]

No asbestos here

[real prairie]

joking aside, happy for you woody!

[mighty stump]

Modern building

all clear from black mold

[spiral ridge]

They just both are high thinking while sober basically

[twin kindle]

A dummy

[real prairie]

high off each other

[tranquil kraken]

bro 😭

[mighty stump]

is that appropriate here

[spiral ridge]

Okayyy extra details wowzers

[mighty stump]

LOL

[tranquil kraken]

hahahaha

[mighty stump]

MY BAD

OKAY

[spiral ridge]

[spiral ridge]

Hey :(

[spiral ridge]

Bro do you really need to ask girliepop 😭

[mighty stump]

Homie

[spiral ridge]

Ili how is this the staff

[mighty stump]

I say unhinged things here for years

[spiral ridge]

So do I

[tranquil kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/big-trouble-if-i-speak-if-i-speak-i-am-in-big-trouble-speak-big-gif-23519858

[mighty stump]

I’m basically legacy staff

😎

I HAVE TENURE

[spiral ridge]

Grandfathered in so can say slurs

[real prairie]

and ill leave that up to your imaginations

[mighty stump]

GRANDFATHERED

[real prairie]

yeah but no one wants to hear about they granpa boink'ing

[twin kindle]

It feels like I’m at a family gathering hearing all my uncles chat

[spiral ridge]

I forget the fancy word gif with the kpop idol but yeah that one

[spiral ridge]

Am I unc level man

[tranquil kraken]

nepotism?

https://tenor.com/view/le-sserafim-huh-yunjin-yunjin-gasp-nepotism-gif-26979022

[spiral ridge]

Dude the video of guy at his grandkids funeral of just “we’re all here cus I got laid” is iconic

[spiral ridge]

That’s the fancy word yes

I was typing narcolepsy

[mighty stump]

NARCILEPSY

[tranquil kraken]

[mighty stump]

im dead

[spiral ridge]

:)

[tranquil kraken]

the wrong enpotism

[spiral ridge]

Like narxolepsy I sleep as I’m already soooo boned

[real prairie]

What a morning in #competitive_discussion

[spiral ridge]

Am I fucked?

[tranquil kraken]

lm ao

those were my alarms too

[twin kindle]

Verily so

[tranquil kraken]

to get fucking tickets

which i didnt get

[spiral ridge]

I’ve felt sick all night my ass will attempt to weasel out

[spiral ridge]

:(?

[real prairie]

anyone new that joined looking for competitive advise in the last half hour:

[spiral ridge]

What tickets

[tranquil kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/kendrick-lamar-gnx-peekaboo-kendrick-wave-gif-1863079792619644991

[mighty stump]

tickets to what

[spiral ridge]

Ohhh
Damn

[mighty stump]

HAHA

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-walkinandout-funny-gif-5070740

[mighty stump]

SAY DRAKE

[tranquil kraken]

DONT

[spiral ridge]

As an old Tera raider
Every place is like this

[spiral ridge]

a

[mighty stump]

FOUND THE ARTIST BYW

[spiral ridge]

We got banned from karaoke :(

[mighty stump]

oof

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/punt-kick-baby-grandma-gif-8217719

[mighty stump]

HAHAHAHAHAHAH

[spiral ridge]

It was welcome to the black parade too :(

[mighty stump]

aw

[spiral ridge]

We got banned from a LOT

We were slightly cheeky fuckers

[real prairie]

at least it wasn't " ... in paris"

[spiral ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/yuji-stare-jujutsu-kaisen-blank-shibuya-sukuna-gif-2005904860443811921

I’m as white as my pfp bg

Shoutout bayonetta I took hundreds of screenshots across all my play through for 123

[real prairie]

Im a white, Jewish, Italian.... Im not even allowed to think the word

[tranquil kraken]

can confirm

[spiral ridge]

I said shucks like a week ago gotta keep myself freshly white

[spiral ridge]

Do not play this game with family around

[tranquil kraken]

just like colgate whitening toothpaste my boy

[spiral ridge]

Mhm

[twin kindle]

am I in the middle of a white bonding session

[spiral ridge]

Alright I sleep now cus if I do before 45 it’s like I’m getting another hour

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/bayonetta-1-mod-bayonetta-mods-bayonetta-mod-bayonetta-jeanne-mod-bayonetta-edelgard-gif-15697113517833348249

[spiral ridge]

NO

I WAS LITERALLT GONNA SAY ESPECIALLY NOT WHEN YOU FIRST MEET JOY

HOW DID TOU READ KT BRAIN

[tranquil kraken]

its the white genes

[real prairie]

according to Tofu, that makes us soul mates

[tranquil kraken]

get matching tattoos

bayonetta and jeanne

just make sure to not get a cereza

[spiral ridge]

You have kids and I’m a kid
You can take this back

[real prairie]

brings a new meaning to pussy power

[spiral ridge]

If soulmates then bayonetta luka cus 3

[tranquil kraken]

yeah fair

[real prairie]

soul mates don't have to be lovers, but yes. nothing inappropriate my friend

[tranquil kraken]

i still need to play 3 lol

[spiral ridge]

It’s

It’s a power rangers game

[tranquil kraken]

[spiral ridge]

The end scene dance made me cry

[spiral ridge]

I will not elaborate besides I am right

[spiral ridge]

I just wanted to give ya a scare

[tranquil kraken]

i believe ya

[spiral ridge]

It’s fun

[tranquil kraken]

now i think you gotta sleep scotty

your alarm goes in less than 4 hours

[spiral ridge]

It’s weird and very diff in ways I like and dislike
But it’s fun

[spiral ridge]

Not if it’s before 45

[tranquil kraken]

😭

[spiral ridge]

Oh shit it’s 43 yeah

It’s basically 5 hours if I don’t cross the line

Night night

[real prairie]

my instincts as a parent are to say "why are you playing that game then?"

my reality is IDGAF, enjoy the pussy power

[tranquil kraken]

valentines dinner tonight lfg

[spiral ridge]

She’s a bad bitch with witty humor. Cool outfits. And basically doomguy if he was British and hot
What else do you need

[real prairie]

my business is parenting my kids, and thats enough work. you do you lol

[twin kindle]

Enjoy

[tranquil kraken]

merci

[twin kindle]

Warmth, food, pink, what could be better

[tranquil kraken]

we gonna go to peruvian restaurant

[spiral ridge]

That’s an enemy disguised as her
Bayonetta doesn’t really have PP as you’re thinking
Someone who does tho

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-kazuma-kiryu-pissed-off-gif-14586175

HOLY FUCK A YAKUZA SOMG CAME ON SECOND I SEARCHED IN GIFS

The summoning

[real prairie]

doesn't matter who it is, one of them has the power

https://tenor.com/view/heman-power-gif-14969607

[spiral ridge]

Yeah a buff 40 year old man throws his whole crotch in an enemies face and spins around their head in a thigh lock to massacre their head into the nearest piece of pavement

[mighty stump]

oh the fit i have planned

for my Valentine’s

on god

[spiral ridge]

Yakuza is a game series where you do things
Anything
Genuinely

[spiral ridge]

Ooo have fun

Stomach still kicking but now I need to sleep fr I just was thinking of convo and realized I missed a yakuza reference so had to come back

[mighty stump]

my jewellery aso just came in so looking forward to wearing those

[spiral ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-yakuza-kiwami-majima-goro-majima-majima-everywhere-gif-18612476

[real prairie]

theres a meme of Venom doing a huricanrana but i can't find it, so ill let your imagination do it

[tranquil kraken]

hell yeah have fun my man

[proven storm]

Just won my first ever competitive doubles battles. 3 in a row

[charred saddle]

nice, whats the team? any changes from before?

[proven storm]

https://pokepast.es/75182c262a5834f8

It's identical to this team except the tyranitar has a different ev spread and leftovers instead of sash

https://pokepast.es/89382d166a9564ed

It has this ev spread

I chose leftovers because you get quite a bit of recovery especially using protect, and with how bulky I've made it I've had a flutter mane moonblast do less than 50%

Not having max speed ev's probably hurts a bit but I appreciate the bulk

[charred saddle]

hmm

[proven storm]

I actually won my 3rd game because of leftovers, a flutter mane moonblast left me on 13 after I'd recovered hp 2 turns in a row from leftovers and the ttar ko'd it

Idk what the ev spreads were on the flutter though

But it seems that a lot of super effective moves unless life orb or 4x super effective or something else ridiculous only do ~50% and combined with leftovers recovery it seems to take 3 hits to kill it a lot of the time

I think the spd buff from sand really helps

[charred saddle]

reg G right? i think most of them are gonna be bulky mane with low spA investment

[proven storm]

Idk what reg it is, I'm brand new to this. But someone told me the current format is reg g

I just queued competitive in Violet, idk man

[charred saddle]

yeah if u played the ranked doubles its gonna be G rn

[proven storm]

Hardest part for me is picking which 4 pokemon to take because I'm just guessing based on typing because idek what sets pokemon run

[charred saddle]

unless its sashed, i think its gonna be bulky mane usually

if its sashed, max spA max speed

[proven storm]

One pokemon that gives me a ton of trouble and taunt on ttar barely helps against is prankster whimsicott

I got rekt by one twice in a row by the same guy in casual and then almost lost a ranked game because of one

Even if I taunt it if they have an insanely strong attacker out and set up tailwind with priority it can just switch out or moonblast something

Let alone if they get off an encore on one of my mons that used fake out or protect

[charred saddle]

taunt ttar helps playing against amoonguss

mb wrong mon

[proven storm]

Yeah amoongus doesn't have prankster

[charred saddle]

no spore, no rage powder no protect

forced to play either sludge bomb or pollenpuff

[proven storm]

Haven't faced a single shroom yet but probs will

Trick room also gives my team a bit of trouble

[charred saddle]

also helps against teams that generally wants to do set ups

like balanced terapagos, usually plays FO cycle and calm mind

[proven storm]

Honestly 90% of the things that gave me trouble is just me being super inexperienced and not knowing wtf 90% of pokemon even do

[charred saddle]

once taunted no calm mind, it doesnt do much, since the EV spread are usually on a bulkier side

i mean assuming ur not in MB, ye

[proven storm]

MB?

[charred saddle]

masterball rank

highest rank in comp

[proven storm]

Oh nah I'm in 3rd of beginner

Only played 3 games so far

[charred saddle]

goodluck climbing tho

[proven storm]

I just need to research commonly run pokemon

Would serebii be good for that?

[mint void]

@proven storm no

Imma get you a link

https://youtu.be/trhIepmEeHY?si=NZFkY74daaUxzA02

[proven storm]

Wood hammer on Rillaboom fucking slaps btw, I OHKO'd hitting for neutral against a physical attacker

[mint void]

Cool video imo.

He explains what they mainly are good at too

[proven storm]

Thanks

[mint void]

Here is a list of all of the resources I find most helpful when playing/learning VGC:

https://www.vgcguide.com/ (Helpful website for basics and also to get your feet wet)

https://www.pikalytics.com/ (Shows you usage data and helps you build Pokémon)

https://nerd-of-now.github.io/NCP-VGC-Damage-Calculator/ (Damage calculator that is very helpful when building teams or reflecting on games)

https://youtube.com/c/CybertronVGC (Best channel for daily VGC content, guiding you through the thought process you need for success)

https://victoryroadvgc.com/ (Tournament results, team reports and breakdowns, and rental codes can be found here)

https://twitter.com/VGCPastes - Tournament and high ranked teams

https://twitter.com/vgccorner - Helpful Twitter account that posts in-depth EV spreads and ideas about competitive pokemon

There are dozens of other resources, some of which are in the pinned messages of this channel. But these IMO are the best places to start absorbing knowledge and getting to a place where you're comfortable with VGC

Copy Pasta

[proven storm]

Thanks!

[gentle crag]

hugh_mungus321 has given 1 Gen Rep to lnk1603

[proven storm]

This is really exciting for me because I'm autistically obsessed with complex games and it reminds me of back when I first got into warhammer 40k and learnt a bunch, or magic the gathering

[mint void]

https://x.com/chorutowo/status/1876440912731275596?s=46&t=NSIK9f9OViHUJnm37QZcEQ
Common speed tiers for moms this reg. You cant always be sure but it at least gives you an idea how to train ur mons. You can also check stat usage on stat crusher

Choruto (@chorutowo) on X

My Speed Tier Spredsheet has been updated for Reg G!
You can find it here

https://t.co/A5TnrCdDuG

Its a compendium of the most popular speeds hit, sorted by Pokemon/The stat spread used to get there.
Enjoy!

X · Jan 7, 2025, 1:29 AM

[mint void]

Id say its not as complex as MTG but you dont have as many clear lines as in a tcg

[proven storm]

Oh also random side note, the random chip damage from sand has been SO fucking helpful, I've taken out 3 sash pokemon so far by either hitting them to 1 and then they get chipped at end of turn or they get chipped and then they don't have sash

[proven storm]

Watching Wolfe's vids it seems about as complex if not moreso, just in a different way

Magic is reactive because it's I-go-you-go and you can respond to spells with your own, pokemon is both going at once and trying to predict what your opp will do

[real prairie]

Im actually speechless

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2299967309

are there bots on SD or something?

surely after the 1st, or even 2nd attempt youd get it

[proven storm]

I just accidentally entered singles with my double team, almost won and wouldve won with a priority grassy glide but hit A too fast and hit fake out for a second turn in a row

[solid frigate]

there are no bots otherwise this is just a Pokemon game

[real prairie]

i meant like scripted bots, not programmed AI

people trying to cheat the system scripting their own bots to play

[proven storm]

They used a fairy move on my ttar, did 1/3 and forfeited

[plain drum]

Funnily enough there actually are programmed bots, a couple exist available to players on the ROM server with pre-determined teams and playstyles but there is also a repository for one you can set up for regular usage with capabilities depending entirely on the parameters you set yourself

Although the difference is the self-hosted bots I mentioned are restricted to Singles formats

[real prairie]

V. interesting

thanks

[left bobcat]

V

[left bobcat]

Can I get my phone call

[chrome knot]

https://x.com/xzacleevgc/status/1890066262639919248?s=46&t=FIWgOpf0yRQcHBdRCEbKnw

XZacLee (@XZacLeeVGC) on X

Hey everyone! Join me as I chat with @sunoru_sidw about the team she got top 4 at San Antonio Regionals with, her tournament run, and the thought process behind the team!

X · Feb 13, 2025, 3:51 PM

[spiral ridge]

THATS THE MOVE

https://tenor.com/view/kiryu-love-yakuza-heart-i-love-you-gif-16169883

This man can canonically do it

[spiral ridge]

Oo

[shadow wind]

I mean there are bots on showdown, just not in popular formats

[shadow wind]

Dang bro you didn’t have to share my average game 😔

[torn parrot]

Yayyyyyy!!!! I pulled a second pachi ex

[spiral ridge]

Nice :))

[molten oasis]

Brother CLICK A NON PRIO MOVE lol

I finally pulled a Palkia

now I need another one

[foggy lodge]

Maybe

How do you not pick Miraidon against Kyogre dude 😭

[real prairie]

Yeah there's that too

[mint void]

zhe just ffed before no?

he only used 3 till FF. last probably was mirai even tho its still weird not to lead it I guess

[foggy lodge]

No he used 4

Grimmsnarl Farigiraf Hands Dnite

[mint void]

oh yeah

[real prairie]

Spamming those Twaves

Maybe if keep spamming it then it'll work

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/8aba52611684c0bf figured I’d ask thoughts? I wanna play some kyogre for double res

[foggy lodge]

Maybe he thought it was just missing lmao

[real prairie]

The damn espeeds too

[foggy lodge]

Anyways this fucking Landorus never appears😭

[molten oasis]

Anything?

[real prairie]

Looks alright

Looks like you might struggle a bit with CIR

Or any hard TR

[opal trout]

Just got to kill the Tsareena first

[molten oasis]

every team I make does

So I’m used to playing through it

[real prairie]

Fair

Maybe Clefairy then 🤣

[molten oasis]

No lol

[wispy spade]

TR is no issue if you just get a double KO on turn 1

[twin kindle]

Clefairy the goat

[molten oasis]

Nah we just calm mind t1 and spam origin pulse

[wispy spade]

Does miraidon get nasty plot?

And is there any lightning immune pokemon with follow me?

[foggy lodge]

What is lightning

[next stump]

lightning rod count?

[wispy spade]

anything immune to discharge

[wispy spade]

the flash that comes before thunder

[next stump]

does pachirisu fill that role

[wispy spade]

that might work

pachirisu + nasty plot miraidon incoming

that dream died fast

[mint void]

weirdcalm mind

[wispy spade]

i don't feel like this is good enough

[mint void]

bruh

like u are wasting ur ability

[wispy spade]

[opal trout]

Give it choice band

[wispy spade]

with swords dance?

[opal trout]

Yes

Now you can spam swords dance

[wispy spade]

to be fair, my first team had protect choice band garchomp

the enemy never expected it

[opal trout]

Hmm why can I only click protect?

[wispy spade]

no, it was more like "wait, why do i have protect?"

i just forgot to add a 4th attack after changing item

[timber falcon]

this is only one res though

[molten oasis]

In prep of double res

I plan on Zac ogre

[bold geode]

Imma just say this (Drago already seen it)
I'm building a team rn for some online tours
But deadass after the online tours are over

I'm not building shit

[timber falcon]

i feel like for a set up kyogre there isnt much allowing it to set up, unless you plan on using pressure from shifu, lando and rilla in order to scare your opponent

[timber falcon]

ooo covering zacs weaknesses with the whale i see

[molten oasis]

Ok

[bold geode]

I was just saying in here, I didn't think you'd be here LMAO

I told you I'd help you with things first, but I also told you why

[molten oasis]

I understand

[bold geode]

Also Drago actually deadass fuck the Teal Ogerpon shit cuz low-key for Caly S Incin at least
So far for me at least low ladder idk about further
If you do shit with both slots Moon Shifu low-key does work

[foggy lodge]

Anyone to run a bo3 rn

[bold geode]

And also I need you to see this
I gotta get outta low ELO cuz they're making me have seething hate for something that somehow gives Zacian at least for me in that vacuum
Even more trouble

[foggy lodge]

Showdown or cart

[bold geode]

Even more trouble than Incin in that vacuum

And it's a fucking bird

https://tenor.com/view/talonflame-pokemon-pokemon-talonflame-flying-hawk-gif-7838614979893468103

[molten oasis]

Yes lol

That’s why I don’t use tealpon

[bold geode]

Cuz I didn't realize this
Zacian can NOT hit Talonflame very well

[molten oasis]

Valid

[molten oasis]

True

[bold geode]

Like I'm damn near getting walled by a bird

[foggy lodge]

How much behemoth blade does to talon

[bold geode]

What you running sir

[foggy lodge]

Tang gang team

[bold geode]

Ooh me me

[foggy lodge]

okey

Showdown or cart?

[bold geode]

Desk Monke be the name, I'll do Showdown

I defo need to play against that MU

[foggy lodge]

Sent

[bold geode]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2300209492-j3agmt1cgf9k3dg49ycxorm909tle2vpw

[bold geode]

Man I could seal that MU better if I was Tera Bug, but Incin kinda wants Grass to seal up Mirai Dozo better

Also low-key if it weren't for recoil, I'd go Wood Hammer over Power Whip

[wispy spade]

If it didn't have recoil there would be no point in every using another grass move

[bold geode]

I mean Horn Leech has recovery but idt that really matters much on a Pokemon who's sole purpose besides redirection is to go unga bunga

[twin kindle]

Power whip is 😞…

15% more like 85% miss

[bold geode]

I know right

[foggy lodge]

Wolfey is in pokealex's chat😭

[real prairie]

lost a game earlier to a wide lense Power Whip miss

[viscid wren]

Should I replace hypervoice on my farigiraf with dazzling gleam? I don't use throat spray on mine but rather a focus sash so I don't get the added benefit of a sp. atack boost when i hyper voice, so I was wondering if getting halved attacks on poison, steel, and fire would be worth getting double the damage on dragon, fighting, and dark, plus the ability to hit ghost types (mainly for the benefit of hitting popular mons like the shifu's, flutter, the 'dons, and caly shadow)

i like hypervoice for its pretty impressive spread damage, but I'm wondering if I can't do even more

maybe even replacing psychic noise which I don't often use

[dense latch]

LMAO i just saw the vod

wolfey’s bringing lugia to euic confirmed

[left bobcat]

Crap

I fell asleep

[real prairie]

I don't want to know what cancer of a team is has ready for us

Looks like we might be getting a normal / flying / steel type eeveelution

Based on my guess

[spiral ridge]

isnt normal just eevee

[next stump]

Really really good question

[chrome knot]

fighting type eevee

[next stump]

What is the rest of your team? We can start there

[left bobcat]

We can body for body

[viscid wren]

I'm in lecture rn so I can't go into detail but to run it down

• standard Ursaluna (non blood moon) build
• life orb moon blast, shadow ball, taunt, protect fluttermane
• choice specs Chi-Yu. Standard build besides low speed
• moongus standard build
• koraidon standard build
  Heavy reliance on trick room for this team. I know it isn't ideal for this format, but I feel it's how I play best. Thinking of replacing Chi-Yu tho

[foggy lodge]

Use pokepaste

[chrome knot]

@foggy lodge are u a ferropalmas fan too or just electrofuria

[viscid wren]

I don't use showdown/team builders so I have nothing to paste :p I'll try to do that when I have time tho

[foggy lodge]

Yes i am too

[chrome knot]

W

[twin kindle]

😭 what

[solid frigate]

the amount of hints that we getting an Eeveelution in ZA is kinda obvious now-

[viscid wren]

Ursaluna @ Flame Orb
Ability: Guts
-Facade
-High Horsepower
-Drain Punch
-Protect

Flutter Mane @ Life Orb
Ability: Protosynthesis
-Moonblast
-Shadow Ball
-Taunt
-Protect

Farigiraf @ Focus Sash
Ability: Armor Tail
-Psychic Noise
-Hyper Voice
-Trick Room
-Helping Hand

Amoonguss @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Effect Spore
-Pollen Puff
-Rage Powder
-Spore
-Protect

Koraidon @ Covert Cloak
Ability: Orichalcum Pulse
-Dragon Claw
-Collision Course
-Screech
-Protect

Chi-Yu @ Choice Specs
Ability: Beads of Ruin
-Overheat
-Snarl
-Heat Wave
-(don't remember but it's not important since I never use it)

[foggy lodge]

Screech

[viscid wren]

definitely not ideal and I need to make some edits, but it's what ive got atm

[dense latch]

im kidding im kidding lmao he just made a joke abt that on pokealex’s stream

[foggy lodge]

Wolfey is bringing Lunala i think

[viscid wren]

yeah. bad decision, i mostly use koraidon to cancel out drizzlers but i need to make it. like. actually usable

[foggy lodge]

That's what Juanfi leaked

[dense latch]

yea your koraidon shouldn’t be support at all

[foggy lodge]

Koraidon definetly shouldn't be just an anti drizzle

[dense latch]

should be tera fire flare blitz set almost always

with clear amulet

[twin kindle]

The thing abt lunala is that everyone preps for it by prepping for csr

[foggy lodge]

what are your teras tho

[dense latch]

maybee scale shot but that’s niche

[dense latch]

regenerator >>>> effect spore on amoong

[foggy lodge]

And drain punch on Ursaluna is trash tbh

Go earthquake or substitute

[solid frigate]

SCREEEEEEECH

[dense latch]

feel like headlong rush is also better than high horsepower

[solid frigate]

also hybrid Offense Support Koraidon wtf

[solid frigate]

also NO DARK PULSE ON CHI YU???