competitive_discussion

[torn parrot]

ROAR OF TIME

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

What are the ways hard trick room deals with imprison besides taunt booster flutter

[chrome knot]

kill

[twin kindle]

Imprison first

[chrome knot]

i hope they enjoy tera water banded surging strikes :/

[twin kindle]

Too stronk for the worldddd

[torn parrot]

This tru

[solid frigate]

just Dragon cheer Dialga Team i did

[solid frigate]

Bestie ^^

[left bobcat]

Uhhh why do I want a tuna salad

[solid frigate]

go get it

[twin kindle]

NOT TUNA

That used to be my name somewhere

[twin kindle]

Aloha señor torrento

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/hugs-love-no-crying-gif-18407780993233051555

[twin kindle]

Back atcha big man!

[untold urchin]

LUNA WHY IS MEXICAN CANDY SPICY

[chrome knot]

whyre u suddenly a vgc player raika

[torn parrot]

I wish the fhe origin forms got spread moves

[solid frigate]

[untold urchin]

Most of the time I accidentally click into this channel instead of #shiny_hunters

[chrome knot]

oohhh

[trim hound]

Dialga has Hyper Voice

[untold urchin]

The rest of the time it’s because I need to bother Monke, because it’s fun to

[trim hound]

And Breaking Swipe

[pallid hare]

because spicy can be good with candy

[chrome knot]

accidentally clicks the better channel

[solid frigate]

i don't run that in GC but eh good to know

[chrome knot]

bwomp

[twin kindle]

Isss uhhhh, traditional I think!
I never really liked them myself

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2286823309

HOW IS MY SPREAD SURVIVED ASTRAL BARRAGE FROM MY DIALGA -2

[torn parrot]

My heater is making noises that are hurting my ears

[twin kindle]

What item

[mint void]

if nothing in this team is rocking LS

[solid frigate]

its Origin Forme

[mint void]

I just feel they are all so physically defensive

[twin kindle]

chomp the origin bean

[solid frigate]

252 SpA Calyrex-Shadow Astral Barrage vs. -2 196 HP / 76 SpD Dialga-Origin: 145-172 (72.5 - 86%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

how did my spread worked-

[mint void]

u just calced it no?

[solid frigate]

yeah i just calced cuz it just happened

[mint void]

well then u know how it works no? its a +0 calyS with no boosting item

Dialga is still a restricted

Beefy boy

he ate a lot of origin beans

[solid frigate]

i mean i'd assume it will kill cuz its -2 SpD

And my old Spread die to that before

[mint void]

but u have new spread

[solid frigate]

eh i'll keep a look on my new spread it seems to work

252+ Atk Urshifu Close Combat vs. 196 HP / 68 Def Dialga-Origin: 182-216 (91 - 108%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO

[mint void]

F

[twin kindle]

50/50 that’s so hoyo of youuu~

[mint void]

It kills or it doesnt kill

[solid frigate]

awwww

It reminded me of i lost to Yanqing-

[mint void]

I feel if there is a roll to kill it kills

idk my shit never lives

anything above 12% is guranteed death

[solid frigate]

idk

i need 12 Spe EVs to outspeed CSR in TW

[left bobcat]

Don’t worry it’s Mexican style

[real prairie]

LS?

[mint void]

Screen

[twin kindle]

I’m Mexican 💔 it rlly is a me salad

[left bobcat]

Damn compa

[real prairie]

Yeah big time

[left bobcat]

Well at least it’s delicious

[trim hound]

Because Dialga is a fat fuck

[chrome knot]

youre salad?

[solid frigate]

100/120/120 goes hard

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/pat-pat-gif-24957682

[twin kindle]

I guess I am nowww eheee

[chrome knot]

ohhh okay lunasalad :3

[trim hound]

Are you playing stall?

[left bobcat]

Sacrifices have to be made for my appetite

[solid frigate]

Dragon Cheer

[trim hound]

Fucking kek

Send me the paste if you would

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/cb1ee4827e26aa76

Current idea

[trim hound]

This is exactly the type of stupid bullshit to play lmao

[mint void]

does draco delete anything specific?

[solid frigate]

Crit Hit Kills CIR

OHKO by Chance

[mint void]

the crit is a 100% tho?

[solid frigate]

156+ SpA Adamant Crystal Dialga-Origin Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Calyrex-Ice on a critical hit: 184-217 (88.8 - 104.8%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO

[mint void]

eh is that worth it over a consistent move?

likei guess it deletes other things on crit if it does CalyI

[solid frigate]

yeah also i have flash cannon as well

[trim hound]

+2 Crit Chance is 50% Crit right?

[mint void]

.dt Crit

idk how the bot works

[dapper crag]

what is the point of a focus band
is it just a gambling focus sash

does it go more than once?

[mint void]

yes

but its never guranteed so

its Quick Claw but for HP

[balmy glen]

I’m almost good to go

As I have 2 friends that are judges I made them all look illegal to troll them ez

[trim hound]

Ez

[craggy dagger]

??????????

[solid frigate]

what did i witness

[real prairie]

Looks like something from "Random Battles"

[spiral ridge]

You face yourself?

Only you would use bruxish(and have)

[solid frigate]

LMFAO

[dapper crag]

what does bruxish even do

[spiral ridge]

Anti prio

[tiny karma]

Ability: Dazzling

Priority moves used by opposing Pokemon targeting this Pokemon or its allies are prevented from having an effect.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[chrome knot]

LOL

[trim hound]

If we are crit spamming, why not Palkia w/ Spacial Rend?

[chrome knot]

aighty just lmk if anything needee

[solid frigate]

Dialga>Palkia

all jokes aside i would try Palkia but i have a Shiny Dialga

[trim hound]

Yeah because Spacial Rend is natively +1

Which means after Dragon Cheer it auto-crits

[solid frigate]

yeah exactly

Its just i wanna use Shiny Dialga

plus this is a GC Team so yeah

i could run Meta but i decided i wanna do funny ahh shit after sweating too much on Regionals

[dapper crag]

so pre tsareena and griaffe

[spiral ridge]

Basically

[charred saddle]

yum

[twin kindle]

Profanities

[charred saddle]

talking about that, i still need to make a Garticuno team

[charred saddle]

[twin kindle]

Delicacies

[charred saddle]

yum

LUNA LOOK AT DM A BIT, I WANNA SHOW

[twin kindle]

I’ve never said a bad word in my life I’m such an angel 😇

[twin kindle]

(Truth)

[solid frigate]

you truly are

you truly are so kind

[real prairie]

Anyone here likely to do Utrecht or Bologna? Might try do both

[bold geode]

Better be watching those ma'am

[twin kindle]

AWE THANS

The only bad word I’ve ever said is…is…

Silly….

[pallid hare]

Thats not a bad word

[twin kindle]

I will make a YouTube apology about this

[solid frigate]

its not a bad word you little one

[twin kindle]

I KNOWWS

[real prairie]

Got round to putting my B'ham regional blanket and play Mat in my office

[solid frigate]

Noice

[twin kindle]

Truly a gaming moment

[solid frigate]

i haven't fix my setup yet despite its all laptop

[twin kindle]

I have a a mini library and a poster on my simple study desk very basic

[real prairie]

Basic is good sometimes, my actual desk is very basic

[solid frigate]

basic and cool

[solid frigate]

i just have 3 poster a desk and thats it

[mint void]

where is the horse?

[solid frigate]

this is a smogon reference anyway

[mint void]

depends when utrecht is. I dont remember

[real prairie]

@mint void

[mint void]

idk then

[torn parrot]

yayyy got to 1500 in best of 3 i feel good

[mint void]

wait

did Max get DQed btw?

in Bham? or did they let it slide

[torn parrot]

im improving at best of 3

[mint void]

big

Gouging fire wants Koraidons Stats

[next stump]

yes

[chrome knot]

yea

[mint void]

and Koraidon wants the typing

imma test sth on cart today

[torn parrot]

koraidon should have been a fire dragon...

but it wasnt on theme

but why does koraidon get screwed over

and miraidon gets to be insane

[twin kindle]

Fire and electric has always been like a mini rivalry

Idk why they chose fighting 😭

[torn parrot]

its theme over practicality

[left bobcat]

Holy shit I passed out

[twin kindle]

Fire is also pretty prehistoric not just hands

He discovery of fire is very much a historic past kind of thing

[torn parrot]

your right

[left bobcat]

We’re all right

[atomic portal]

fake news ur only a bo1 gimmicker

[twin kindle]

Rightieeee

[chrome knot]

bc ungabunga dinosaurs

[twin kindle]

Hehee nom nom blast

[chrome knot]

looona

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/aww-cute-gif-24949784

[chrome knot]

i finish team in game ^-^ and it not gend so i can bring to Vancouver

[wispy spade]

[left bobcat]

Oh that’s right my tuna salad

[twin kindle]

Yesss eeeemi

[left bobcat]

Damn I almost forgot about my appetite

[twin kindle]

YAYY that’s so exciting

How soon is Vancouver happening?

[twin kindle]

I’ve been nommed

[chrome knot]

how..?

OH i skipped words

in March, so team will probably go through a few more changes to keep up with post EUIC format

but for locals i ready

[twin kindle]

Woo woo ^o^
Best of luck

[chrome knot]

ehehe

[solid frigate]

kek thats my trick

[twin kindle]

Ta da

[torn parrot]

its almost time for dinner

[chrome knot]

pizza

[solid frigate]

[twin kindle]

Flatbread like a grandma

[left bobcat]

Cheesecake 😫

[chrome knot]

@twin kindle lulu should i make my nickname scheme Strawberry themed?

[twin kindle]

YEASSS

I love that so mush

Shortcake who

[chrome knot]

battlebox named Strawberry, mons named like Shortcake, Milk etc :3

[twin kindle]

Too cute aaaa

Do show do show

[torn parrot]

saltines are my favorite cracker

[spiral ridge]

That’s so cute :3

[chrome knot]

ill have the most aesthetically pleasing team while i kicking ass :3

[twin kindle]

If a team looks too ugly I refuse to use it ngl 😔

That’s why I love weather teams they always have such a nice color schemeeee

[spiral ridge]

You always do

[solid frigate]

Luna is drunk kek

[torn parrot]

i really like tailroom teams

thats my favorite style of team

[spiral ridge]

Tailroom is fun it was one of my first teams archetypes :)

[chrome knot]

https://x.com/vgcdata/status/1882485227328766064?s=46&t=FIWgOpf0yRQcHBdRCEbKnw

VGC Data (@VGCdata) on X

Take a look at some of the most creative and unusual teams from Birmingham & Rio de Janeiro

Feel free to share your favorite highlights, whether or not they're featured here

X · Jan 23, 2025, 5:47 PM

@real prairie

[chrome knot]

lunala

[torn parrot]

i have no idea how they did tho

ohh

theres placement

[torn parrot]

you make lunala tailroom look really cool

[real prairie]

ITS MEEE!

[torn parrot]

YAYYYYY LUDICOLO CHAMPION

i wanna do a regional one day

[chrome knot]

its pretty fun to pilot

[trim hound]

How do you filter for a particular mon on that site?

[real prairie]

the fact i faced 1 zamazenta @ B'ham is quite surprising looking at this

[chrome knot]

https://pokepast.es/61cdcf098085efc0 @twin kindle lululululu

[spiral ridge]

I want strawberry cookies now…

[torn parrot]

The big 4

That’s cool

Well actually only one of them is cool

[left bobcat]

Damn no Lunala 😔

[chrome knot]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2286964420-dgfr43mso5gzfhd4sd55pzl88ycjrbbpw it really fun too :3

[mint void]

Why theme tho? Bro is a bike

[mint void]

CalyS has fraud status tho after Bham

Dropped to 7 or 9% on Day2 or top cut. Cant recall exactly

Groudon and Kyogre are doing really well.
Miraidon, CalyIR and Zama are doing well as expected. Worlds team is doing stuff and keeps winning.

[torn parrot]

no the cool one is zamazenta

[molten oasis]

I thought CIR was the one on fraud watch

[left bobcat]

THE TERA WATER

[solid frigate]

change of plans

i'm playing different stuff

[solid frigate]

i won't say CSR have fraud status

Its still a threat i will consider

[real prairie]

even when i beat the dog, it feels hard https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2286980555

https://tenor.com/view/dog-dogs-stupid-funny-dog-stupid-fucking-dog-gif-22588837

[mint void]

Imo its only a fraud cause ChiYu, Flutter and Incin are so popular. Also many people seeing it as such threat and making sure their team beats it. Look at the rise of single strike urshifu(not only cause of CSR but still)

[real prairie]

Yeah, if it didn't exist and wasn't often partnered with a TW setter i wouldn't feel as much need to run scarf on Kyogre

[mint void]

@real prairie idk I havent lost to a caly yet with Kyogre

[real prairie]

GG lol

[mint void]

I usually just spam Origin against it

[real prairie]

ill oneshot it with water spout because im faster lol

[mint void]

My Rilla OhKOs bulky ones with Tera Woodhammer

Outside of terrain afaik

[real prairie]

there are bulky Caly Shadow lol

[mint void]

We are set

[real prairie]

🤣

[left bobcat]

🫵😂🧃

[chrome knot]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2287002839-sl0q5lv8p70sl9l6bj8n6c5exaso6ukpw

glued to this game rn

😵‍💫

[real prairie]

whats the multiplier for -1

?*

[chrome knot]

0.67 iirc?

[real prairie]

cheers

trying to work out if Room Service or Iron ball works out better for speed reduction

[strange fjord]

remember to round the numbers down if its a fraction

[real prairie]

ofc, will do. cheers

[solid frigate]

the room service item is so meme sometimes-

like in context not the item itself

[real prairie]

its a cool item for a mid tier speed mon that you want to opperate in both TW and TR

not so much in Reg G mind you

because the top speeds are so stupidly extreme

[solid frigate]

i can already have a mental image of A pokemon ordering Room Service and Indeedee just gave the item to it

thats what i mean the context

its just so much memery inside

[real prairie]

whats the usual spreads on Uraluna?

[solid frigate]

which Ursa

[real prairie]

guts

[craggy dagger]

@chrome knot
why are you a gene cluster file

[chrome knot]

im mkwii cheats

[solid frigate]

oh

Hmmmmm i would just go for 252 Atk Brave Nature

As for Bulk,it depends but i like to spend some on SpD

[chrome knot]

gecko file :3

[real prairie]

cheers, and moveset?

[gentle crag]

oneofakindof has given 1 Gen Rep to morrispxg456

[craggy dagger]

oh pffff

[solid frigate]

Facade,Headlong Rush,Earthquake/any coverage,Protect

[cyan smelt]

What's a gecko file

[left bobcat]

HEADLONG

[craggy dagger]

no clue
but .gct is a gene cluster file from what i remember

[untold urchin]

why arent any of you .gif

[chrome knot]

commonly used on wii as like cheats

gecko code type

[real prairie]

hard trick rooms are so weird to pilot, once you have TR up you need to switch which leaves you vunerable

strange

[left bobcat]

As the journey continues

[chrome knot]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2287023805-j4gzelzy92vqw18f4v2w4e6ugosnejrpw

WHAT IS LOW LADDER LMFAO went on dry streak now im playing the freaks 😭

[real prairie]

Did you see the teams I posted earlier? 😭🤣

Insanity

[chrome knot]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2287031314-5mb8fd41s8kb0oo6flzkbt77ry2kuggpw

and now break time lmao

[left bobcat]

FINALLY

My tuna salad

[torn parrot]

im gonn be a random battler

they're a different breed

[cyan smelt]

use of moltres seems to be increasing

[torn parrot]

the red one?

or the black one

[cyan smelt]

the regular kanto one

[torn parrot]

its typing is just so good into the meta

tho

only problem is your giving up incin to run it

unfortunately

[cyan smelt]

yeah but flame body + rocky helmet is pretty good

[torn parrot]

yeah it is very good

[cyan smelt]

and burning jealousy is a neat tech move

[torn parrot]

for sure

i didnt even know it was a spread move

till the torkoals started running it in reg H

[cyan smelt]

incin used to run it in swsh sometimes

[solid frigate]

didn't Indigo disk DLC Crispin's Blaziken used that move or am i tweaking

[cyan smelt]

nope

it did not

[solid frigate]

huh

I think my mental thought cuz the other 3 used their moves for their respective TMs they give

[cyan smelt]

the blaziken had temper flare

[solid frigate]

ohhhhhhhhhhh-

fuck i need to replay indigo disk

[left bobcat]

We the big three

[twin kindle]

OMG AO MANY OF MY BABIES

Lunala , indeedee whims some of my faves

[chrome knot]

it bed time,,,,

[twin kindle]

Awee, sleepy time for bun bun?

I’m a little bat >:3
I sleep a bit later

[left bobcat]

Oh damn I showed up at the wrong time

[mint void]

Its what

[mint void]

Im getting up now

[torn parrot]

Burning jealousy

[mint void]

@torn parrot im hinting at the fact I also had no idea zhat it is a spread move

[torn parrot]

oh ye yeah

makes it a very weak move

weaker than rockslide

[cyan smelt]

isn't it just meant for spreading status

Lower ladder is funny, skill swap sableye next to zamazenta, I set up rain dance for urshifu, then I set up tw and just swept with surging strikes

[atomic portal]

@torn parrot congrats on bo3 like t300 in one sitting btw

u like never play bo3 so thats radical

[torn parrot]

i play it sometimes, but trying to play it more

thank u tho

[balmy glen]

ok well im going to use my first zama edition where i auto lose to dozo so

hopefully i just dodge them all 🙏

[real prairie]

You called?

Morning peeps

[devout warren]

Hey y’all 🙂

[tiny karma]

Move: Mist

For 5 turns, the user and its party members are protected from having their stat stages lowered by other Pokemon. Fails if the effect is already active on the user's side.

Type

Ice

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

30 (48)

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Snatch

Affected by Snatch.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[real prairie]

i made this ultra offensive team as a joke and it hasn't lost yet 🤣 https://pokepast.es/7cde27812c3de382

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2287216901

it just goes BOOM

i mean.... https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2287220208

https://tenor.com/view/incident-gif-2747499635347300991

[molten oasis]

Helping hand Tera fire choice band koraidon be like

[real prairie]

oddly enough just lost to a koraidon because i didn't bring Tserenna and had to play around a thunderclap, by the time i got rid of bolt, Koraidon was x3 speed lol

[dull nacelle]

Hi, someone can help me to make competitive team?

[charred saddle]

i can pin you a helpful resource by one of the comp helpers, but i cant help rn

#competitive_discussion message

[gentle crag]

mlbd (ID 197813560997314562)

[Message](#competitive_discussion message) in #competitive_discussion
Here is a list of all of the resources I find most helpful when playing/learning VGC:

https://www.vgcguide.com/ (Helpful website for basics and also to get your feet wet)

https://www.munchstats.com (Shows you usage data and helps you build Pokémon)

https://nerd-of-now.github.io/NCP-VGC-Damage-Calculator/ (Damage calculator that is very helpful when building teams or reflecting on games)

https://youtube.com/c/CybertronVGC (Best channel for daily VGC content, guiding you through the thought process you need for success)

https://victoryroadvgc.com/ (Tournament results, team reports and breakdowns, and rental codes can be found here)

https://twitter.com/VGCPastes - Tournament and high ranked teams

https://twitter.com/vgccorner - Helpful Twitter account that posts in-depth EV spreads and ideas about competitive pokemon

There are dozens of other resources, some of which are in the pinned messages of this channel. But these IMO are the best places to start absorbing knowledge and getting to a place where you're comfortable with VGC

Command triggered by abused1. Message from · Jan 20, 2025, 2:56 AM

[dull nacelle]

I understand a little, but my brain is burned because i want try some with a Florges

[next stump]

do you want to play single or double battles

[dull nacelle]

Doubles

[dull nacelle]

I thinked my Florges with Dazzling Gleam / Pollen Puff / Calm mind or protect / Wish 252 HP, 252 Deff and modest

[next stump]

florges isn’t the worst pokemon

[dull nacelle]

My problem is think florges partners for the team

[next stump]

but with this current ruleset, you need to choose one restricted legendary pokemon to use as the center piece

[dull nacelle]

Yeah, i can use 1 legendary and 1 sigular right?

[next stump]

you can use one restricted legendary (lists of these can be found by googling it) and unlimited regular ones

but usually most people just have the restricted legendary and maybe one or two other ones

[dull nacelle]

i thinked about use Lunana/ Miradion / Terapago or Calirex shadow

[solid frigate]

Why did i think of Koraidon

[dull nacelle]

Can be good too

[solid frigate]

Also bad idea on Using Florges in Terapagos and Miraidon

I dont think it works well(Spoken from Experience)

[dull nacelle]

Then what legendary u think can works good with my florges?

[solid frigate]

Koraidon or Groudon actually

If not you can try Zamazenta as well

i think it could be discovered but depends on your thoughts

[dull nacelle]

Then actually i have Kora / Zama and Florges

My koradion is with fire tera and 2 fire attacks

[solid frigate]

i think if you want to

Use Clear Amulet with Collision Course,Flare Blitz and Flame Charge

[dull nacelle]

Yeah i plan to use with this setup

and protect

[solid frigate]

yeah good enough,at least you tried to use a Niche pokemon and Have Meta Sets for Meta Ones

[cyan smelt]

With flower veil you could run it with rilla and it's a free clear amulet for rilla

[solid frigate]

yeah pr if you can run Choice Band,My teambuild group are currently discovering it to some extent

suprisingly Solid i would say

[dull nacelle]

And why florges not works good with Miraidon?

[solid frigate]

i just dont think Its good enough to deserve a spot on the current Formula

While Koraidon can still experiment since it was barely explored by players

compare to every restricted that are in top 8

[cyan smelt]

Miraidon teams are strongly set up to counter fairies so I think it's anti synergy to have miraidon next to florges

[solid frigate]

also dont recommend Set up for Miraidon Teams

[cyan smelt]

Run sun and you could have bolt and rilla

[dull nacelle]

I thinked miradion at first time for volt switch, is really good move

[cyan smelt]

Is that because the standard miraidon team is volt switch, set up tr then clean up with miraidon once tr is done?

Yeah florges is too fast for tr imo

[solid frigate]

Or be like me and does not run Farigiraf over my mIraidon team

[cyan smelt]

Also the fairy slot on miraidon teams is taken by whims and florges can't set tw or tr

[dull nacelle]

I know this... look hard

[cyan smelt]

That's the problem with using niche mons, you have to figure out a role for them

[dull nacelle]

i go try think one full team and ask here

[dull nacelle]

Terapagos can works good u think?

[left bobcat]

Morning chat

I’m going back to sleep

[cyan smelt]

I'm not sure about terapagos

[mint void]

like what is the floges gonna do in the teams?

[dull nacelle]

Florges with Dazzling Gleam / Pollen Puff / Calm mind or protect / Wish 252 HP, 252 Deff and modest

Tank, and heal

[cyan smelt]

Florges is quite frail defensively

Monstrous sp def though but still frail defensively

[mint void]

calm mind isnt it imo

just run LS

[dull nacelle]

LS?

[mint void]

Light Screen

Special Bulk on Florges is good

154 SpD is great. 78 Hp not so much but workable for sure due to the high def stat

68 def tho is hard

u should check rolls on mons that it could wall to see if its worth it

[dull nacelle]

But she is really bulk without it right?

Problem is normal defense

[mint void]

LS protects ur ally too

or Reflect

buit she only gets LS

[dull nacelle]

Cant learn reflect

[mint void]

i know

[dull nacelle]

is hard make this pokemon works good

[mint void]

Florges-White @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Flower Veil
Tera Type: Water
IVs: 0 Atk

• Charm
• Light Screen
• Dazzling Gleam
• Helping Hand

maybe sth like this

[wispy spade]

252 Atk Choice Band Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 252 HP / 220 Def Florges on a critical hit: 153-180 (82.7 - 97.2%) -- approx. 2HKO

[mint void]

the issue is that florges isnt fast so her stuff often comes out at the end of the turn

[dull nacelle]

Then i can try make she play in trick room?

[mint void]

id go for 6.25% chance to OHKO or make sure to live ChienPao Ice Spinner if possible

[mint void]

not rlly

[cyan smelt]

Really awkward speed tier

[dull nacelle]

Is not slow, not speed

[wispy spade]

252 Atk Sword of Ruin Chien-Pao Icicle Crash vs. 252 HP / 220 Def Florges: 94-112 (50.8 - 60.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[mint void]

If u want to use her then go for it I guess u can make it not useless at least and cripple mons with charm or LS

like thats a use case.

it being so "slow" just makes it worse. if she was fast that would be really good

[dull nacelle]

in what app u try this?

[wispy spade]

https://calc.pokemonshowdown.com/

[molten oasis]

Florges?

[mint void]

lemme give u a better one

https://nerd-of-now.github.io/NCP-VGC-Damage-Calculator/

[dull nacelle]

Some steel strong pokemon to try?

[solid frigate]

yeah idk

[wispy spade]

i don't see a lot of steel... urshifu is everywhere and kills them instantly

[dull nacelle]

Zacian ultra oneshoot XD

[cyan smelt]

Chi yu and lando and hands and incin also deal with steel types

[mint void]

Florges-White
Ability: Symbiosis
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 220 HP / 124 Def / 36 SpA / 4 SpD / 124 Spe
IVs: 0 Atk

• Charm /Pollen Puff
• Light Screen
• Dazzling Gleam /Pollen Puff
• Helping Hand

@dull nacelle sth like this poss

[real prairie]

does it get TR? could be a setter too

[mint void]

then figure out the ability

[cyan smelt]

Nope

[real prairie]

ooof

[wispy spade]

only trick, no room

[tiny karma]

Ability: Symbiosis

If an ally uses its item, this Pokemon gives its item to that ally immediately. Does not activate if the ally's item was stolen or knocked off, or if the ally used an Eject Button or Eject Pack.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[charred saddle]

ohohoho interesting

[dull nacelle]

Without charm i like it more, but she cant heal herself

[wispy spade]

Florges is a flower than learns trick, but can't use flower trick

[tiny karma]

Florges's moveset:

Physical Moves

Covet, Endeavor, Facade, Frustration, Giga Impact, Petal Blizzard, Razor Leaf, Return, Secret Power, Seed Bomb, Tackle, Trailblaze, Vine Whip

Special Moves

Alluring Voice, Chilling Water, Dazzling Gleam, Disarming Voice, Draining Kiss, Echoed Voice, Energy Ball, Fairy Wind, Giga Drain, Grass Knot, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Magical Leaf, Misty Explosion, Moonblast, Petal Dance, Pollen Puff, Psychic, Psychic Noise, Round, Snore, Solar Beam, Stored Power, Swift, Tera Blast

Status Moves

After You, Ally Switch, Aromatherapy, Attract, Baton Pass, Calm Mind, Camouflage, Captivate, Charm, Confide, Copycat, Defog, Double Team, Endure, Flash, Flower Shield, Grassy Terrain, Heal Bell, Helping Hand, Light Screen, Lucky Chant, Magic Coat, Metronome, Misty Terrain, Nature Power, Protect, Rain Dance, Rest, Safeguard, Skill Swap, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Synthesis, Tearful Look, Toxic, Trick, Wish, Worry Seed

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Florges.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[mint void]

@dull nacelleid go with sth arnd that. Option to heal. Option for chip and rest support moves. Then either go flower veil on a team that has grass types/grass teras or symbiosis for specific interactions. Maybe just hold Lefties.

[mint void]

play her with Rillaboom for Grassy Terrain and give her Lefties

[dull nacelle]

Rillaboom, she, koraidon and other

[wispy spade]

she?

[dull nacelle]

Florges allways female

[wispy spade]

oh

i searched

[dull nacelle]

XD

[mint void]

@dull nacelle

arnd that poss

[wispy spade]

how did you get trick room on there?

[dull nacelle]

Thgats look trick room haha

[mint void]

yeah

ignore the moves

[charred saddle]

meteor beam power herb lunala with HH symbiosis florges seems interesting

[dull nacelle]

U start with rilla and florges?

[charred saddle]

potentially with covert cloak, making florges cant be FO

then movinng cloak to lunala

[wispy spade]

i'd maybe do something like this

[dull nacelle]

what is FO?

[wispy spade]

fake out

[charred saddle]

fake out

[real prairie]

is there an issue with sleep on Showdown? its been 4 or 5 times ive spored someone and they have woke up 1st turn

[wispy spade]

or full offense

[solid frigate]

Incin’s best move lok

[mint void]

nah no prot

[solid frigate]

fhey have a Luck of a gambler

[mint void]

true

[real prairie]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2287287364

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 671: Florges

Type

Fairy

Abilities

Flower Veil, Symbiosis (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

78/65/68/112/154/75

Total

552

Sableye version 4.28.1

[dull nacelle]

WAIT TSAREENA?

[charred saddle]

oh very bulky in spD

[solid frigate]

its usable

on Kyogre Teams frfr

[dull nacelle]

Now u have all my Atention (i use florges because i thinked tsareena impossible)

[charred saddle]

fari is just better, tsareena kinda fills a niche role

gets access to power whip, triple acle

[tiny karma]

Tsareena's moveset:

Physical Moves

Acrobatics, Bounce, Bullet Seed, Covet, Double Slap, Endeavor, Facade, Feint, Flail, Fling, Frustration, Giga Impact, Grassy Glide, High Jump Kick, Knock Off, Low Kick, Low Sweep, Mega Kick, Payback, Petal Blizzard, Play Rough, Power Whip, Punishment, Rapid Spin, Razor Leaf, Return, Seed Bomb, Solar Blade, Stomp, Take Down, Trailblaze, Triple Axel, Trop Kick, U-turn, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Dazzling Gleam, Draining Kiss, Energy Ball, Giga Drain, Grass Knot, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Leaf Storm, Magical Leaf, Round, Snore, Solar Beam, Swift, Tera Blast

Status Moves

Acupressure, Aromatherapy, Aromatic Mist, Attract, Captivate, Charm, Confide, Double Team, Endure, Grass Whistle, Grassy Terrain, Helping Hand, Laser Focus, Light Screen, Nature Power, Play Nice, Protect, Reflect, Rest, Safeguard, Sleep Talk, Splash, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Sweet Scent, Synthesis, Taunt, Teeter Dance, Toxic, Worry Seed

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Tsareena.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[solid frigate]

It’s better on Kyogre teams cuz she does the offensive of Rilla and Fari’s Priority block

[charred saddle]

theres not much reason on running tsareena with fari being a better choice

[real prairie]

Tsareena @ Wide Lens
Ability: Queenly Majesty
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ice
EVs: 68 HP / 252 Atk / 188 Spe
Adamant Nature

• Protect
• Triple Axel
• Power Whip
• Helping Hand

[charred saddle]

fits kyogre as triple axel can ko most grass typings

[real prairie]

outspeeds and OHKOs Rilla with triple axel

[charred saddle]

if only it gets spore tho

[solid frigate]

Leo No-

[charred saddle]

itll be annoying

[dull nacelle]

But i cant imagine Tsareena wining game...

[mint void]

go all in

[charred saddle]

honestly ill try cook the power herb cloak lunala thing

[wispy spade]

you have toedscruel if you want fast spore (if you can deal with the ability)

[mint void]

play both on a kyogre team@dull nacelle

[real prairie]

well i took it to B'ham and it won me 5 of them so lol

[solid frigate]

at least this one make sense

Is Nova helping that as well

[charred saddle]

scarf toedscruel and weezing is a thing before so

[dull nacelle]

Teams can be exported?? my english is low and my brain start stay confused haha

[charred saddle]

no, its something came into my mind

[solid frigate]

Ah ok

[charred saddle]

+1 lunala and cant be snarled

its sounds so nice

[mint void]

Im saying you should og all in and play Florges and Tsareena on one team with Kyogre

[solid frigate]

then why not just Calm Mind Covert Lunala then

You need Meteor Beam for Incin?

[charred saddle]

and also since lunala is slower than prio, FO lunala is useless, FO florges also no since cloak is still in florges

[dull nacelle]

I can try

[real prairie]

im wondering if there is room for worry seed Whims in this reg, so many mons love their abilities 🤔

[charred saddle]

power herb meteor beam then cloak from florges sumbiosis to lunala

[solid frigate]

Interesting,lemme know how it goes lol

[charred saddle]

not a matter of ohko, but its just nice to have a quick +1

but eh

[mint void]

expanding force in the back?

[charred saddle]

im also like iffy about the typings

[mint void]

like if u nuke incin T1

[charred saddle]

lunala most likely want fairy tera and MB but then overlaps with florges

[mint void]

whats stoping expaning force

[charred saddle]

and florges lunala means that u potentially almost do nothing to steel typings

[wispy spade]

which move do you give up to fit trick room?

[solid frigate]

Tera Dark?

[charred saddle]

or something something

[mint void]

u can run Pollenpuff as the only attacking move

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/incineroar-default-dance-jerb-q-gif-24304326

[mint void]

@real prairieu didnt read

[dull nacelle]

Florges most see legendary partner is Shadow Calyrex

[chrome knot]

or use lunala to kill the snarl user,,,,

[charred saddle]

havent really thought of the other team

[mint void]

@real prairie

[real prairie]

no, id admit i didnt lol

[charred saddle]

i mean yeah ofc kek

[solid frigate]

i would actually try Tera Dark Lunala for a Go

[charred saddle]

btw emma, does meteor beam lunala ohko incin?

[chrome knot]

mhm

[mint void]

i Feel the idead can be really neat in CTS

[charred saddle]

ohohoho

[chrome knot]

that is literally her job in some mus

hit incin with rock

[charred saddle]

interesting

[solid frigate]

just hope you dont miss

thats how i lose one of my games when i play Lunala

[charred saddle]

meteor beam
tr
moongeist
protect/calmmind(?)

[mint void]

calm mind is greedy here no?

[chrome knot]

im on meteor beam moongeist beam expanding force trick room

[charred saddle]

eforce is interesting but hmm

[solid frigate]

Not the Psyspam Lunala

[charred saddle]

bringing indeedee again makes it kinda hard to play around dark

[chrome knot]

well i also have Ms Indeedee

i also have urshifu water & okidogi

[charred saddle]

especially no moonblast

[solid frigate]

M o o n b l a s t

[chrome knot]

so dark types explode lmao

[solid frigate]

just use Moonblast honestly

[mint void]

legit just run a fighting type with Florges and Indeedee.

[charred saddle]

man look at the moves were looking

[mint void]

should be enough most fighting boys arent bulky on the physical side

*dark

[solid frigate]

i actually tried a Meteor Beam Lunala Set with Umbreon and that got me into VGC Showdown Chat room tour finals

[charred saddle]

maybe also a fast option is also with whim

[chrome knot]

mhm

[charred saddle]

covers fairy typing

also encore lock

[charred saddle]

does meteor beam kill cir?

[chrome knot]

99% max :v

[charred saddle]

DAMN

[solid frigate]

thats good enough

[chrome knot]

if theyre spdef set

[charred saddle]

OH WHAT ABOUT LIFEORB

lifeorb symbiosis hm.

[chrome knot]

of theyre 252/252adamant they likely die

[charred saddle]

interesting

[chrome knot]

https://pokepast.es/61cdcf098085efc0

[charred saddle]

ill do calcs now that im in pc

[solid frigate]

its a +1 Super effective from SpA of 137 iirc

[charred saddle]

no STAB and cir being fucking tank

[charred saddle]

so ye

[mint void]

core seems ok to me.

[solid frigate]

Lunala is such a GOATed Restricted

and it has Wide Guard,Not that if you want to use it

[charred saddle]

bm ursaluna seems nice also, to play with csr and good switch around with lunala

[solid frigate]

you can pair Lunala and BM Ursa

It feels solid

[chrome knot]

just try this xd

[charred saddle]

yep

[wispy spade]

this is what urshifu deserves

[solid frigate]

shut up

urshifu js Goated

when i am using it

[charred saddle]

slow urshifu?

[chrome knot]

nah

[wispy spade]

iron ball urshifu?

[charred saddle]

slow shifu in tr sounds annoying tbf

hmm

jolly max speed?

[chrome knot]

noo

[charred saddle]

btw does symbiosis work with knockoff?

ie. opposing incin knock off to lunala, losing item. does symbiosis still work?

or only when the item is used

[tiny karma]

Ability: Symbiosis

If an ally uses its item, this Pokemon gives its item to that ally immediately. Does not activate if the ally's item was stolen or knocked off, or if the ally used an Eject Button or Eject Pack.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[charred saddle]

nvm it got answered

[chrome knot]

lmfao

[wispy spade]

[next stump]

that’s my global challenge team hahaha

[charred saddle]

HAHAH

[next stump]

power band Urshifu with Torkoal and CIR

[wispy spade]

like this?

[next stump]

eject pack smeargle to always get the free switch in

[charred saddle]

oh damn.

sounds annoying as hell

cant protect in TR as well

[next stump]

i’ve tried playing too many global challenges with “honest” teams

[charred saddle]

shifu just gets free hits

[next stump]

time to be the cheeser

[real prairie]

feel like there is a lot of room for red card in GC

[wispy spade]

does red card cancel 2 hits from watershifu?

[mint void]

no

[tiny karma]

Item: Red Card

If holder survives a hit, attacker is forced to switch to a random ally. Single use.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[mint void]

only acts after multi hit attacks are completly done

[tiny karma]

Item: Eject Pack

If the holder's stat stages are lowered, it switches to a chosen ally. Single use.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[solid frigate]

You are using that on GC?

[tiny karma]

Item: Eject Button

If holder survives a hit, it immediately switches out to a chosen ally. Single use.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[wispy spade]

a hit means 1/3 of surging strike

need better wording

[mint void]

it doesnt

[real prairie]

@charred saddle https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2287296875-p9likl82o6z01jiiky49nl89gpllljopw

You wanted to see Tsareena win a game

[mint void]

full attack goes through

[tiny karma]

Item: Red Card

If holder survives a hit, attacker is forced to switch to a random ally. Single use.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[mint void]

he will hit 3 times even when the hit mon holds red card

[charred saddle]

cant even open the replay

and def not my problem

[wispy spade]

could've been a lag spike when you weren't testing

[solid frigate]

what are you doing-

[real prairie]

try again lol, works for me

[wispy spade]

same

[real prairie]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2287296875-p9likl82o6z01jiiky49nl89gpllljopw

[charred saddle]

just saw ur team and i dont like it one bit

[mint void]

wdym

@real prairiedoes ur incin own any SpD EVs?

[charred saddle]

also idk why they chose to encore when they can just sac 1 and tailwind to get miraidon in

[real prairie]

no sir

[charred saddle]

sry for the ping again, but should i focus more on the bulk aspect since we're playing with power herb?

[mint void]

@real prairiewhats the bulkiest thing ur kyogre OHKOs?

[real prairie]

Ooof what a question, mmhh

[wispy spade]

the most important question... does it ohko sylveon?

[real prairie]

with tera water i think it has % to Ohko CIR

hydro pump has OHKO without tera

[next stump]

yes i am

[wispy spade]

156+ SpA Mystic Water Kyogre Water Spout (150 BP) vs. 100 HP / 0 SpD Sylveon in Rain: 160-189 (87.4 - 103.2%) -- 25% chance to OHKO

[real prairie]

now try my 252 SpA Tera Water Water Spout

[wispy spade]

I used water tera sylveon in reg C, so i'd be fine

[tiny karma]

Florges's moveset:

Physical Moves

Covet, Endeavor, Facade, Frustration, Giga Impact, Petal Blizzard, Razor Leaf, Return, Secret Power, Seed Bomb, Tackle, Trailblaze, Vine Whip

Special Moves

Alluring Voice, Chilling Water, Dazzling Gleam, Disarming Voice, Draining Kiss, Echoed Voice, Energy Ball, Fairy Wind, Giga Drain, Grass Knot, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Magical Leaf, Misty Explosion, Moonblast, Petal Dance, Pollen Puff, Psychic, Psychic Noise, Round, Snore, Solar Beam, Stored Power, Swift, Tera Blast

Status Moves

After You, Ally Switch, Aromatherapy, Attract, Baton Pass, Calm Mind, Camouflage, Captivate, Charm, Confide, Copycat, Defog, Double Team, Endure, Flash, Flower Shield, Grassy Terrain, Heal Bell, Helping Hand, Light Screen, Lucky Chant, Magic Coat, Metronome, Misty Terrain, Nature Power, Protect, Rain Dance, Rest, Safeguard, Skill Swap, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Synthesis, Tearful Look, Toxic, Trick, Wish, Worry Seed

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Florges.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[wispy spade]

252+ SpA Mystic Water Tera Water Kyogre Water Spout (150 BP) vs. 100 HP / 0 SpD Tera Water Sylveon in Rain: 113-133 (61.7 - 72.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[charred saddle]

wtf hello?

hello???

@plain drum look at this shit eni

[wispy spade]

maybe learns it outside of gen 9

[charred saddle]

damn im kinda bummed out that it cant after you now

hm

[wispy spade]

gen 6 and 7 move tutor

back to ultra moon you go

[charred saddle]

man sableye needs to get an update

[tiny karma]

Move: Flower Shield

Raises the Defense of all active Grass-type Pokemon by 1 stage. Fails if there are no active Grass-type Pokemon.

Type

Fairy

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

Move: Ally Switch

The user swaps positions with its ally. Fails if the user is the only Pokemon on its side. This move has a 1/X chance of being successful, where X starts at 1 and triples each time this move is successfully used. X resets to 1 if this move fails or if the user's last move used is not Ally Switch.

Type

Psychic

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

15 (24)

Priority

2

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[charred saddle]

i hate this mon now

[wispy spade]

they didn't expect anyone to actually use florges, so it was never updated

[charred saddle]

idgaf anymore i dont wanna pplay with florges

[solid frigate]

rare Dillon L smh /j

[mint void]

idk it seems fun actually

[charred saddle]

its not fun when its fucking movepool is kinda useless

[mint void]

u are like Caly, Smeargel, Urshifu and sth else as the main idea

[mint void]

light screen, pollen puff, HH

like if it had a good movepool people would be using it

[charred saddle]

does it have prankster? no
can it set before the enemy? no its slow

[wispy spade]

[charred saddle]

its a different case with shrroom since its very slow

[mint void]

I hate u /j

[wispy spade]

i always think of happy hour before helping hand

throne of lies ruined my thinking

[charred saddle]

HH is okay since its prio
ally switch and after you is my other supp utility here in my head

one provides easier TR set

then next HH Mbeam

but now u dont even have ally switch, and since im TW lunala, im a bit fast.

knowing if enemy is a bit faster i can use afteryou getting early move.

but now it just doesnt even work

man ill just play HSR

[mint void]

Fraud

https://pokepast.es/2905590b6a7c1266

i miss this team

[dull nacelle]

How is the best lunala team?

[mint void]

@dull nacelleu make it

[dull nacelle]

Me?

[charred saddle]

https://pokepast.es/ac26806c0ad5c38f

this is what i run

balance lunala, set CM and just go from there

2 FO to play around

[dull nacelle]

Ursaluna can be changed?

[charred saddle]

hmm, idk

hard to find its alternatives. its to play against caly shadow

tanks CSR really well, and hit with hyppervoice/bloodmoon

140bp STAB + Tera hits very hard

[dull nacelle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6f22Q9XsyE&ab_channel=PokeMaineEvent

This is good team too?

[solid frigate]

LMAO WHAT I THOUGHT YOU HAVE YOUR POKEPASTE

[real prairie]

that was stress: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2287316985

[dull nacelle]

I no have

[solid frigate]

ill hop into teambuilder for Lunala Team one second

[charred saddle]

personally dont like that team at all

[mint void]

Its ok

[charred saddle]

it just insta dies to CIR, fairy types (fairy tera dazzling gleam miraidon)

[mint void]

hard to pilot i imagine

[dull nacelle]

i dont know how use good this aps 😦

[solid frigate]

its a Website

[charred saddle]

well ur choice

3 dark is like eh

[dull nacelle]

my problem live in english langue i have less than B1 level

[solid frigate]

also Covert Cloak CM Lunala go br

[dull nacelle]

I know all moves in spanish

[solid frigate]

i mean everyone starts at somewhere

im chinese and i am improving my English

[dull nacelle]

Im improving mine, but my brain dies haha

[real prairie]

i never accept people taking the piss out of broken English, you guys are mastering 2 languages whilst they just about speak 1

[solid frigate]

i need Master 3 Languages

Cantonese,English and Mandarin

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-the-way-this-is-the-way-mandalorian-mandalorian-i-have-spoken-baby-yoda-gif-24159898

[solid frigate]

so tru

[twin kindle]

True English lovers embrace the growth

[solid frigate]

also Hi Bestie

[twin kindle]

I’m like obsessed with English but I find accents and cultural diction a part of the charm

[real prairie]

was also a joke on "Mandarin" sounding a lot like "Mandalorian"

[twin kindle]

ellloo

[dull nacelle]

I only learn because i need, i dont like english...

[solid frigate]

LMAO TRU

[real prairie]

fair, i don't like the English much either.

[solid frigate]

British Ogerpon

[solid frigate]

[forest arrow]

gmm

[chrome knot]

bwomp me and my silly canadian accent when i get mad cx

[real prairie]

Looks like shes doing an impression of Elon Musk atm 👀 needs to put that arm down

[solid frigate]

Ogerpon doing Ogerpon stuff

[bold geode]

Can we not

[real prairie]

lets not

[mint void]

I hate the french more

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/movingroght-along-movingrightalong-muppets-anyway-gif-17971671

[twin kindle]

Is very coot
My Spanish accent leaks a bit too

[solid frigate]

Its another Napoleonic Wars moment

[bold geode]

@twin kindle LUUUUNNNAAAA

[real prairie]

French pokemon go hard though

literally

[solid frigate]

I’d like to hear tho

[twin kindle]

VERSACE

That’s so random it made me giggle

[bold geode]

Wait hol up

[solid frigate]

Lmao

[real prairie]

@twin kindle you spanish? going Seville?

[chrome knot]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-fran-sleep-sleepy-tired-gif-8633431630979404250

[bold geode]

There we go

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/big-bang-theory-softkitty-gif-5676656

[dull nacelle]

porigon 2 can be good Lunala friend?

[real prairie]

No, too many fighting types reg G

[chrome knot]

(?)

[twin kindle]

heh, though I can’t keep my mouth shut on vc any less than I can here , brr the yap sessions I have…

[real prairie]

The anime girl had kitty ears and is sleeping, reminded me of the song

[solid frigate]

I would not be tired on your yap lmao

[chrome knot]

me with the hyperfixation on teaching game stuff

[twin kindle]

@craggy dagger whadya think? Can they handle my yappityyy yap

[solid frigate]

[twin kindle]

a pro in the making, heck yeah!

[chrome knot]

im beeg yapper when i stream games in call

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/sudogiri/status/1882558976015077398

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X · Jan 23, 2025, 10:40 PM

[dull nacelle]

Lunala, incineroar, rilaboom, Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Mystic Water / Tsareena / Rotom wash machine Can be fine??

[charred saddle]

btw luna when are you free mebbe?
music session with nova

[solid frigate]

rotom wash js meh but other than that eh its alr

[twin kindle]

terraria , mario kart?

[dull nacelle]

One example for this rotom?

[charred saddle]

tsareena and rotomwash feels a bit out of place

[solid frigate]

it just does not have that much Value

[solid frigate]

do i have to redownload MK8 just for playing-

[twin kindle]

I’m freee yaue..actually I didn’t even ask when

[dull nacelle]

Right, i continue thinking

[chrome knot]

vgc asw but yes

terraria is my special interest game >~<

[charred saddle]

if u want the anti prio, indeedee will fit with lunala
rwash isnt doing anything i think

[solid frigate]

ill just wait for Luna to done with that but yeah I’m busy with my Splatoon Comp Team

[charred saddle]

my beloved game, the only game where i did 100% achievement

terraria very fun

[dull nacelle]

tsareena with queenly majesty can works

[twin kindle]

It honestly depends on the people I talk too…like I wanna be nice to everyone but you know I enjoy being around you if I YAPAP or cricket noises on vc

[twin kindle]

Hehee

[solid frigate]

I mean im fine with it
Im technically a Yapper myself (Kinda)

[twin kindle]

I 100% allsouls games like the little nerd girl I am , that’s basically it though

[solid frigate]

why this is so relatable

[dull nacelle]

Lunala , Rilaboom, Incine, Urshi water, Tsareena and indeede?

[chrome knot]

we’d be the loudest call ever

[solid frigate]

i think its alr

[twin kindle]

That works

[solid frigate]

Double terrain for Lunala is good

[twin kindle]

Help I just realized

[dull nacelle]

terraibn?

[solid frigate]

yeah Rillaboom and Indeedee grants Terrain with their Abilities

[charred saddle]

oh right u got rilla

dont play both, just messes up ur play

[solid frigate]

i mean for Lunala ill let it slide

[charred saddle]

tsareena and indeedee fills the same role

[twin kindle]

Basically special fields that certain pokemon trigger in battle , causing various effects that boost both teammates and foes

Only one can exist at a time uh huh

[solid frigate]

Automatic Misty Terrain Setter when

[mighty stump]

I GOT PAID LETS GO

[dull nacelle]

But tsareena is atacker

[mighty stump]

GWeezing

[solid frigate]

that us Not Tapu fini

[mighty stump]

GWeezing

[twin kindle]

Owahhh I’d love to call again sometime

[solid frigate]

i think i already got brainrotted from CSR dozogiri weezing shit that i forgot it has that

[mighty stump]

Lol

[solid frigate]

like im not kidding thats my worst matchup during my run in Bham

not CIR

THIS TEAM

[twin kindle]

Tofull of cash woo woo

[solid frigate]

Tofull lmao

[charred saddle]

if ur looking for attacker it doesnt fill the best

theres other better attacker, its okay in certain teams since it got anti prio + access to triple axel to KO some mons
but for anti prio indeedee is better, for attacker theres other

[dull nacelle]

Now i need what moves use indedee

[chrome knot]

me when i work job

[solid frigate]

me when i have actual income

[mighty stump]

I'm just happy to make it through another month of being a vet lol

[chrome knot]

i love my income it makes me able to travel lots

[charred saddle]

berenti kerja, part time jd guru VGC gw aj

[dull nacelle]

I want she for anti prio and do damage

[chrome knot]

truth

[mighty stump]

Gaji brp

[charred saddle]

well you can try

[chrome knot]

cant relate i be clockin in at the free money store

[charred saddle]

umr

[solid frigate]

just Slap Iron Hands for TR mode

if you remove Indeedee

[charred saddle]

jokes aside, msh sibuk?

[mighty stump]

Whats umr

[mighty stump]

Gk terlalu, but i'm not gonna charge u hahaha

Biaring aja gw tolong

[dull nacelle]

U said about use tsareena and iron hand and not tsareena and indedee right?

[charred saddle]

upah minimal regional

UMR jakarta 5.4jt

[mighty stump]

Anjing

[charred saddle]

SEKAWKWAKWAKWAK

[dull nacelle]

Lunala , Rilaboom, Incine, Urshi water, Tsareena and iron hands? @solid frigate

[solid frigate]

tsareena Hands or Hands Indeedee

[solid frigate]

yeah works

[dull nacelle]

Tsareena allways, she is my favourite pokemon haha

[charred saddle]

ill ask you around sometimes then

[mighty stump]

You can always just dm stuff and we can do it as we go

Daripada nunggu

[charred saddle]

ooh g slh

[mighty stump]

Fair warning, i'm rusty haha

[solid frigate]

i mean my Fav Pokemon is Greninja and i am trying to make it work

Choice Specs Set lmao

[charred saddle]

rusty tofu still > me

[mighty stump]

gk slh juga

[mighty stump]

Oh did I tell you I broke up w my gf

[chrome knot]

my gf 5-3’d Sacramento with Greninja

[dull nacelle]

Now, i need learn the best move set for Tsa and Iron

[charred saddle]

yeah i saw that

u did say that like recently

[solid frigate]

its Reg H tho

But still BASED AS FU

[mighty stump]

Tsareena - Power Whip/Triple Axel/Protect/Taunt or HH

Iron Hands - DP/Wild Charge/Fake Out/Low Kick or Heavy Slam

[charred saddle]

u good btw?

gr gr LDR kah

[dull nacelle]

85% acc move

[mighty stump]

She wanted kids, I don't, dealbreaker

[charred saddle]

use wide lens

[solid frigate]

you gotta hit the gamble at one day

[mighty stump]

85% chance to OHKO the things that matter.

[charred saddle]

oh fuck yeah thats harsh

[mighty stump]

Plus yeah

You use Wide Lens

[dull nacelle]

And what item can use for she?

[mighty stump]

I mean, I can't give her what she wants and I don't want to tie her down. She should be happy

[solid frigate]

wait you broke up?

[mighty stump]

Wide Lens.

[solid frigate]

W I D E

[mighty stump]

Yeah a few days ago

[charred saddle]

tp tumben, biasa pihak keluarga cowo yg mau turunan

[mighty stump]

I'm not too broken up about it though

[mighty stump]

Gw g mau

[solid frigate]

my condolences,

But at least its fine about it

[charred saddle]

hooh

[dull nacelle]

Thanks

[gentle crag]

msr_bukanero has given 1 Gen Rep to woodtofu

[chrome knot]

https://pokepast.es/004be9a4d92e5bcb

[dull nacelle]

Irron hand with assault vest right?

[mighty stump]

I don't want kids because:

• finances
• time commitment
• responsibiliity level and career impact

[real prairie]

^^^

[mighty stump]

and I know i'm selfish

[mighty stump]

Yes.

You need to also invest in the SpDef

[charred saddle]

buat medical field 2 and 3 relateable parah

[solid frigate]

wait actually thats a good team

[mighty stump]

Do not max HP first.

[solid frigate]

i mean its reasonable explanation i respect it

[solid frigate]

44 HP 252 SpD Lives a +2 Shadow Rider’s Astral Barrage

[craggy dagger]

252spdef 156 hp 100atk right?

uh
or has it changed

[mighty stump]

Yeah that's mine

Hasn't needed to change it in forever

Hahah

[craggy dagger]

it’s just too good of a spread

[solid frigate]

I mean if its not broken dont fix it

[real prairie]

Bulkier:

Tsareena @ Wide Lens
Ability: Queenly Majesty
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ice
EVs: 148 HP / 252 Atk / 108 Spe
Jolly Nature

Stronger:

Tsareena @ Wide Lens
Ability: Queenly Majesty
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ice
EVs: 68 HP / 252 Atk / 188 Spe
Adamant Nature

@dull nacelle

[mighty stump]

Whats the calcs for

[real prairie]

might have @ the wrong person

[charred saddle]

why u tag me tho
im nnot even lookinf for tsareena

[craggy dagger]

wide lens. tsareena?

[real prairie]

outspeed and OHKO Rillaboom

[charred saddle]

ye, for axel and power whip

[craggy dagger]

ah

[charred saddle]

with lens, axel 99% acc

[solid frigate]

yeah someone is usjng Tsareena

[solid frigate]

that 1% of Missing would hurt a lot lmao

[charred saddle]

imagine failing the 1%

[real prairie]

yeah wrong person, sorry

[solid frigate]

couldn’t be me

[real prairie]

Happened to me @ B'ham

sad times

[solid frigate]

Skill issue /J

[bold geode]

Hello señor Tofu

[mighty stump]

Goodbye

[charred saddle]

1. https://pokepast.es/c6696b7be44193b7

2. https://pokepast.es/c6696b7be44193b7

what do you think about this 2 tofu

also, what do you think about calm mind BM
kinda interested in it, just havent found a good set up for it

[mighty stump]

I don't like CM BM

Not in this format

It's fine with Friend Guard support but not for me

Alternative BM Ursa set would be AV + VWave

[bold geode]

Jarvis, call that man obscenities

[real prairie]

L'orb>

[solid frigate]

why is Monke changing his own Company names lmao

[dull nacelle]

carefull nature?

[solid frigate]

Brave Nature

[mighty stump]

Looks okay but I think Andrew's variant with Grimmsnarl and Lefties Lunala is better

[charred saddle]

dont like AV Vwave, kek nanggung

Vwave is nice to gambit, but no gambit so

[bold geode]

Also Tofu I was watching Worlds video back
Someone had Koraidon and Snorlax 👀

[mighty stump]

Also Heal Pulse > Life Dew

[mighty stump]

VWave Encore pernah coba?

[mighty stump]

Lmao

[solid frigate]

dont tell me its the same team Tofu used

[charred saddle]

too many snarls around, feels cloak is more consistent and fairy tera cloak still no FO feels nice

[mighty stump]

Snorlax is good for the same MUs I explained that Koraidon hates

[charred saddle]

ini apaan lg dah

[charred saddle]

ooh ok

[mighty stump]

Blogpost gw dlu

[solid frigate]

wide Guard Snorlax should be real in Gen 10

[mighty stump]

If Snorlax gets Wide Guard it's over for you bitches

[bold geode]

Tofu looking at that image like

[real prairie]

just have it stand up front

[solid frigate]

dont worry i will use snorlax lmao

[bold geode]

Awww
No gifs for the click bait pointing meme

[real prairie]

sort of shit Ash Ketchum would do as an improv Wide guard

[charred saddle]

wallahi

[mighty stump]

Oh sbnrnya.

[gentle crag]

woodtofu has given 1 Gen Rep to abused1

[solid frigate]

ah yes

Snorlax used Roadblock

[mighty stump]

Abis putusan sama pacar gw...gw udh ketemu org baru

LOL

[charred saddle]

WAKAWKAWKAWKWAKAWKAWK KONTOL

TOBAT LAH NAK

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/john-travolta-well-where-is-it-looking-for-something-gif-5291661

[mighty stump]

BEDA ITS DIFFERENT

[charred saddle]

[mighty stump]

I swear kita gk putus krn org ini sumpah

[charred saddle]

[solid frigate]

i almost thought of you said

PETA IS DIFFERENT

[real prairie]

every time Tofu does this i feel like ive had a stroke

[charred saddle]

wakawkwa lebih cocok tp?

[mighty stump]

Indonesian shorthand does that

[charred saddle]

ato gmn

[solid frigate]

you’ll get used to it lmao

[bold geode]

PEEETTAAA THE HORSE IS HERE

[mighty stump]

udh gk lebih cocok lagi. udh pas pol

[solid frigate]

THE HONSEOLOGY

[charred saddle]

chindo jg?

[mighty stump]

org sg

[charred saddle]

walah

[bold geode]

@mighty stump a CSR has fallen to my Infernape inshallah